>RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army Released on Steam and Switch 2:https://youtu.be/H9Xyh3SciAM?si=fJ4lZMo_4My9z9_b>Devil Summoner has a partial translation patch for PSPhttps://romhack.ing/database/content/entry/lBnxBLPnRF21TFZmhVUKdg/shin-megami-tensei-devil-summoner-english-translation>Giten Megami Tensei's partial translation patch for PC-98https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/>Devil Children: Black Book/Red Book's partial translation patch for PSX https://romhack.ing/database/content/entry/uH27yhvRRaSyUplzu5IUCw/shin-megami-tensei-devil-children-black-book-red-book/>Gmode rereleased DDS A's Test Server on April 16thhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2627690/GMODE_DIGITAL_DEVIL_SAGA__As_TEST_Server/>Vengeance OST scanshttps://imgur.com/a/smtvv-ost-liner-notes-cNN28YJ>Shin Megami Tensei The Board Game Kickstarterhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game>Megaten Fusion Tools [For real fusion autists!]https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/home>Archive of 3DS Texture Packshttps://reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1b6v86u/3ds_games_hd_texture_packs_are_gone/>Old neocities site containing info and useful links (no longer updated)https://smtgen.neocities.org/#original-post>SMT TTRPG Campaign PDF:https://files.catbox.moe/rdqfh3.pdfother important link:https://x.com/kazumaKaneko666Last cycle: >>573953231
what has been your favorite lore drop to come out of kaneko's xitter?
>>574529419I just enjoy the chaos it's creating among megaten fags. And I laugh at Kaneko desperately begging people to buy his game.
>>574529853is it really that chaotic?
>>574531398it is nothingburger
Kaneko is a closeted bisexual.
>>574532005tbf we never knew if he's married let alone if he ever had a kid
trust the plan
one boss down
There can be no SMT VI until Aogami and Vkun are married in some kind of offical media.So it is written.
would kazuma kaneko (PBUH), despite his avoidance to touch any new SMT games, bless tao-yoko's toxic yuri sex
what a fine fucking whore
>>574529419This one is pretty wild.https://x.com/kazumaKaneko666/status/2078705546920964401>Are you familiar with Megami Tensei (the novels)>How similar are the Shin Megami Tensei games compared to Nishitani-senpai’s work ?>Of course I know it. >To be honest, I haven't read it, so I don't know the content. >When the first installment came out as a novel, an anime and a game were produced at the same time. Back when I was an animator, I worked a bit on the animation for that anime, so I watched the anime and learned the story that way. At the same time, I absolutely loved the game, so I ended up joining Atlus without realizing I'd done subcontract work on it, and here I am now. >So I think the first novel and the first game are the same, but after that, they diverge into separate things.
Hello. I haven’t visited this board in a while.I’ve just wrapped up a stereo music mod for Devil Survivor Overclocked. I’ve been wanting to do this for five years, but only now have finally managed it.(For context, even if you used stereo audio files, the game was originally programmed to only support mono audio I/O; any channels beyond the first would simply be ignored.)I’ve tested it using both my Nintendo 3DS and the Azahar emulator. If you wish to test the mod, you can download it here: https://files.catbox.moe/ygibq5.7z
>>574529419Its funny when people ask for some deep meaning in a design and the answer is just "I took it from a movie/anime I liked"
>>574532909I'd rip that top off of her and suck on them tiddies
>>574535569neat
>>574535625people really should try creating art stuff on their own and they'll realize it's just easier creating stuff based on the stuff they're already fond ofno way Kaneko sieved through fucktons of untranslated books about myths back in 90s when he was chasing deadline to deliver his work
>>574531504The "If... and Persona are not connected" bombshell got like 700+ retweets.
>>574536557people really lost their shit over that>WHO CARES WHAT HE THINKS HE'S A BOOMER AND HE USES AI REEEEEmeanwhile all he means is "it's not meaningfully connected, what happened in if... doesn't actually matter to persona 1"funny as hell
Today is tasteful ass Sunday
https://x.com/i/status/2078736202929438807Dude glazing the coloring of Tsukuyomi's characters
Anyone else just kinda hate the Forma from Strange Journey? Don't get me wrong, one one hand it's cool for your human crew to whip up new gear on the fly from the remains of Demons.But, on the other hand, it's also kind of annoying that you need both Macca AND specific types/amounts. It makes acquiring useful consumable items real tedious, I'd rather just have a normal item shop.
>>574538391I never really ran to the source problem, SJ's bigger problem is the lack of skill inheritance which was less of a problem when the game had a 6-member party and you could excuse 1-2 demons were only in the party for 1 type of buff/debuff, but not in a 4-member party. Yeah there's a password system but it feels like cheating if I do it so I haven't finished til the very end.
>charlie's backstory of being a bike thief is based on kaneko's middle school friendKek
>>574539337it makes it sound like charlie didn't actually steal the bike though because the middle school friend didn't either. he just found it abandoned and painted it. then he got in trouble.all very interesting.
>>574489316What is this guy's problem? Why is he constantly scratching his balls? Maybe he should talk with a doctor about it.
>>574537391That mitama doesn't stand a chance!
TMS' damage number is kinda whacked, also Dia needing 10 MP is insane.
someone was asking about good megaten remixes. this is one i'm quite find of:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4Ae1s-hbyw
>>574540307you stand correct
>>574540285He's just a big MJ fan, don't worry about it.
>>574537391
2nd boss down
spooky
I'm a rube. A moron. A retard in fact.I purchased kazuma kaneko's Tsukuyomi for some reason. With my own hard earned money. I should have just set it on fire instead. I deserve no sympathy, but I pray you use me as an example of what not to do at the least so my grievous error not go to waste.
>>574545578...you deserve to die for spending $25?chill, dude.
>>574535625demifiend's inspiration is the most hilarious
>>574546023All slop consumers should sudoku, especially the guy playing TMS
>>574546614that sounds like a dangerous view. it's subjective what is considered slop or not so someone could put you to death if you played something they considered slop. or are there rules for what counts as slop?are you a lawfag?
>>574538654When I needed some strong endgame demons, I used to use Mitama fusion and as many sources as I needed to make a good one, then I made the generated the password, took a photo, and restarted to keep my sources.You could say it's cheating but I made the skillset myself and the good sources are just rare, and Mem Aleph is demanding. The password generator where you just input a skillset and voila is the one I could not see myself using.
>>574538654I think the means the Forma like Jirae ball and stuff like that where they're not guaranteed drops which sometimes just forces you to run down dungeons like a retard because you need a gun or something.
titillating
>>574538391i feel you, they should have removed most of the macca requirements. it doesn't fit the setting.
>Jimenez half demon form was inspired by the venom symbiote from Spiderman Nice.
>>574546614TMS is an ok game, not really to the taste of mainline SMT or FE but it's an okay Persona rip-off. Kiria and Ellie actually are better than any P4 or P5 girl lol
>>574548465oppai megami tensei
I just remember TMS announcement was hilarious with one of the lyrics being "I wanna disappear" which can be translated as "I want to die" and there was a level that looked like infernal tokyo. So many people was coping going OMG ITS A DECONSTRUCTION ITS A BAIT AND SWITCH FUCKKK YEAHHHH then the game came out and it's like :/
>>574550157>SJ canonized the idea that Macca is energy not money>Energy (Macca) is needed to produce weapons, armors, appsNice
>>574550157Is this the slut who did an erotic nemissa cosplay? Looks like it might be her face.An anon here bought the set and uploaded it somewhere. I don't have the link anymore though
>>574543902
mermid
I forgot how fucking hard SMT3/4 bondage angels made my dick
Why does Lucifer even appear during CoC Law ending?He could have waited until the inevitable happened and someone else took the throne instead of helping make God's law eternal.
>>574553448Lucifer unironically thinks up holding God's Law is better then being apart of the Great Will's mechanisms, he doesn't care what world you make he just wants to be free from the Great Will, yes even worlds he himself would hate.
>>574553114Thank you.Mermaid ass... ToT
3rd boss down
>>574529419Apparently he fucking hates Soejima
>>574538391I thought soBut then I begun selling the forma I didn't need.And turns out you get a FUCKTON of money by selling the forma from enemy search demons and you hardly need them for anything. So you can use that money to savescum sourced and passwords
is kaneko secretly bitter he wanted atlus to be his niche playground for so long and then persona blew up and suddenly atlus had to make works that appealed the masses more, do you think he objected the addition of social link when P3 was in the making?
>>574557050Based
>>574557050it was rather odd he mentioned him like voldemort as 'the guy who made persona famous'
it's okay not to buy my game - kaneko
>kaneko is a kpop stan
>>574558652>Average Japanese developer>"You don't have to force yourself.">Average westoid developer>"FUCK YOU CHUD THE GAME WASN'T MADE FOR YOU!"
>>574543490incorrect
>>574553448In my interpretation, by trascending as an "eon" Lucifer becomes a buddha overcoming his rebellious teenager phase, and is more interested in free will as a way for worlds to trascend the inherent structure they are bound to, rather than morality codes. It doesn't matter to him what world you want to make as much as that world truly being a world of its own and not something for the mandala system to shit up by spawning a messiah in it to keep it in line
>>574553448He needed someone who can inherit his knowledge and YHVH's. Susano-o is a fucking chameleon. He can be anything you want him to be. He has attributes of a bull and snake god. That's also why CoV chaos can happen. You might say it's an ass pull that Susano-o can fuse with other gods so easily but his mythology really is just batshit. He's evil one minute and a saint the next.
>>574558898Who are you quoting?
>>574565680Kaneko Kazuma
>>574565680Man, whoever made that pic was lazy as fuck.Still, cute Mermaid!
>>574565680>quoting
>>574566285This, we call it greentexting 'round these parts
It's called shiggy diggy text, newfags.
>>574565680ME
>>574568062Very nice Mermaid shot.
>>574568062here is the key for the imagehttps://files.catbox.moe/fpmxo8.png
>>574568229Thank you.
>>574568229kek
>>574568229doing a captcha just to look at some tiddies
Kaneko will secretly attend the SMT concert next month but without his wig so no one will know who he is.
no none asked if that's his real hair?
>>574572245>Hey Mr. Kaneko, take a picture of you taking off your wig and I'll pre-order a 100 copies of Tsukuyomi right now.
>>574558652I wonder if Kaneko will stay away from AI for his next game. He's said he wants to do all the illustrations himself if possible in the future. I don't think he actually looked into AI at all when he came up with this game idea. He just wanted to try it because it was new.
new class of demons"popcorn buckets"
>>574573823no way this is real wtf??
>>574574618It's real, this is the world chaosfags want for you.
>>574568062
>>574573190>Properly train IA using your best existing drawings next time>No one will notice
>>574575519
>>574535569I’ve released it on Gamebanana.Please enjoy playing Devil Survivor Overclocked without abysmal sound quality.https://gamebanana.com/sounds/91411
>Oh shit we need a semi-final boss and Tao is not a fighter, quick call Mastema and give him Tiamat controlling powers.They had no idea what to do near the end of the chaos path huh.
>>574576220Nice JK legs.
Done with all endings now.Neutral > CoC chaos > CoC law > CoV chaos > CoV law > true neutral.The endings were pretty weak but true neutral was the only one which I actively disliked.
>>574578438What the fuck was the point of the whole Tiamat bullshit if Mastema had the power to control the stupid thing in the first place? Thus saving us from this shit story.
>>574579952Also, very surprising that something neutral ended up as my favorite, last time it happened was on SMT1.They are usually my least favorite by a mile.Nocturne, IV, SJ, Desu 1 and 2I hated all of them.
>>574580032Mastema isn't working for YHVH anymore in VV because he's dead, he wanted the quaditsu to wake it up
Does anyone happen to remember the user on pixiv that was really good at replicating Kaneko's art? I think the artist did Nier Automata fanart or something like that
>>574581427https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/26589823
What are some good SMT or Persona cover albums?
>>574581529That's the one. Thanks
>>574581842no problem
I just got access to the Labirinth of Amala in Nocturne... so, since I can't recruit or anything in it, what's the best way to tackle it? To return when my demon slots are all taken so I don't get MP fucked deep in?
My answers are a bit different
>>574578438>>574580032>>574580849>According to the Book of Jubilees, Mastema requests permission from God to spare some of the demons disobeying him and in return put them under his control.It's a myth reference, it's not just pulled out of their ass. Likewise Mastema can see the future as well as everything you do after taking the throne (or no). He already knows he loses against you. You find out his real plan is to summon Satan to judge you.
>>574574989no, chaosfags would want to overthrow the status quo and revert to a tribe-like society with the strongest leading. they'd overthrow all the incompetent politicians. neutralfags want to keep everything the way it is.lawfags want to nuke everything and then hide away protected by god.
>>574587525>and revert to a tribe-like society with the strongest leadingSo... law
>Metatron is actually a mecha being piloted by Enoch
Someone ask why Barbara Walker was so influential on SMT
>>574588180Also I don't have a xitter, someone ask Kaneko which female demon design is the worthiest of semen wasting behaviour
>>574588287This but unironically.
>>574588287Fuck off, I want to know why this feminist hag was so prevalent in my manly demon games for manly gamers such as myself
>>574588180I'm guessing they just grabbed a bunch of random mythology books and that happened to be one of them. Since Barbara made up so much shit it would stand out from the rest so I guess they took an interest in it.
>>574574989Not even demonoid hell was that cursed
>>574582435I don't remember struggling with MP that much, there are worse dungeons at the equivalent stage in the game. It's even easier if you save it for endgame.
>>574587525>lawfags want to nuke everything and then hide away protected by god.This but insert gigachad mounting a giant fly edit
>>574588180pretty sure it's because back in the olden days, her book was more or less the only source that had been translated to japanese for quite a few mythologies
>>574588891She didn't make shit up. Most of what she said was true mythology. The rest is her musings about how they overlap and the link being misogyny. She even says that part is just her opinion. It's no different from how ancient alien theorists connect similarities in religions and then say it's because aliens traveled all over the world.
https://x.com/kazumaKaneko666/status/2078736202929438807So, Kaneko's coloring is different now due to his assistant who does the finish/coloring, who apparently was conscious due to online comments, like the ones saying his art looked like mannequins.
>>574590090I'm more curious how he's had seemingly the same assistant for years.
>>574588287someone already asked him what demon is the best to date. then asked if it would be mara.kaneko said mara would stand out and then iirc he said a tsukuyomi character would be the best.
>>574568062>>574568229Gorgeous Mermaid...
>>574578438I mean, Tao is a fighter and has battle animations already even... I can get Goko not being a boss, even if it's unsatisfying but Tao definitely should have been there.
>>574595116No, Mermaid's race is Femme. Get it right. Shaking My Tensei...
>>574582435If you're struggling, it means you should go back doing the main story because you're not strong enough.And while you can technically ignore it until the end game, you do need to reach the entrance of... the 2nd or 3rd kalpa I think? at some point of the game to unlock the others Fiends and while you can also do that later, doing it when you can will save you a lot of backtracking.
I require more Mermaid
>>574595506yoma in devil children shin megami head
Yoma...Jirae...Genma...Jaki...Kishin...Tenma...Megami...Touki...Zoma...
yoma balls
Why is /smtg/ and /pg/ so fucking bad on the weekends?
Shin Megami Salami
>>574601358>/pg/>on the weekends
Kaneko has mentioned several times among these questions his demiurge design is humanoid rather than a serpent with lion's head because he wanted a cool design for a boss... but it's actually kind of surprising since the Demiruge was just a late game boss in his first appearance in Devil Summoner. Not some kind of super boss or final boss.
>>574601954
surely it's not healthy for a grampa age to stay late at night
>>574557943idk. he doesn't seem to like namedropping people in general. he calls his assistant a vague term too and never by name.
>>574606296adding, i think it's just a professional thing. nips don't like putting the spotlight on others so avoiding a namedrop avoids potentially putting attention on them.but it's just my opinion.
some of the TMS' soundtracks feel like a discarded tracks from P5
>>574587519>uhhh mastema can control le 10% of demons and tiamat is among themnah that's forced as hellimagine if pazuzu or zhong kui could hijack mem aleph, it'd be fucking stupid
still playing TMS, man i wish they put the same effort of making dungeon to SH2. not extraordinary by any means but at least there was some actual effort over seeing this a lootttt
>>574610279Koshimizu even has a bench talk to you about the rumors surrounding Mastema's ability to control demons.
is it wise to play Raidou 2 on emulator first if I still want to wait for a proper discount on Raidou Remasteredtrying to be ethical in a way heh
It begins. Wait until he finds out the Nahobino has no penis.
>>574610854I still remember when all people cared about in this game was Ringo's ass
>>574291745Tartarsauce exploration has reached a dead end for now, with enemies not giving nearly enough exp to be worth grinding and further floors blocked off.I had thought I'd carved out a nice little schedule for myself with the social link friendship system but getting dragged to after school bullshit and Mitsuru demanding I join various clubs is giving me more social balls to juggle than I'd like. Furthermore I've been trying to make my small lizard-like caveman brain obtain the smarty levels by studying as there's an exam next month, with currently little to show for it besides the odd cold.
Californication is not only the song that inspired Nocturne, it's Kankeo's favorite song of all time.www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlUKcNNmywk
>>574611173and demons includes "primordial mother goddesses"? again, there are other demons that can control legions of demons (see: EVERY goetia demon) or subjugate others (zhong kui, pazuzu, etc). it would be bizarre if they hijacked a final boss and the justification was that "well they have 20 legions of demons!". throwaway bench dialogue doesn't make it less strange and wouldn't have even been written by the people deciding on the main plot points.
>>574615317>Hardcore soft pornSo that explains stuff like Asherah and Yuko having the hots for her student
>>574615391The justification is that the being giving him this power is the Great Will. And I know you'll bitch about that too but at least it's a being high enough to grant that privilege.
>>574612402I still remember this edit we made when the ending leaked and then people thought it was a real scene. Good times.
The Great Will should've just sent Satan instead of Mastema, this situation does not need schemes, it needs hyper violence.
>>574616634Satan has to be summoned with convoluted means. Honestly that's the case in most of the games.
>>574615904>The justification is that the being giving him this power is the Great Will>According to the Book of Jubilees, Mastema requests permission from God to spare some of the demons disobeying him and in return put them under his control.God is dead in SMTV, and the Great Will is not God.
you're given 1 (one) wish for a mainline SMT anime adaptation what would you choosei picked V because i'd like beano with some emotions
>>574615317>It's Kali Fornication~
>>574616948The Great Will is greater than YHVH.
>>574616885It's the fucking Great Will, it definitely has enough power to summon Satan's fat ass without the need of convoluted summoning material.
The Great Will is the same thing as the SMT IVA Axiom. Yes or no?>>574616142Hilarious!
>>574617357>The Great Will is the same thing as the SMT IVA Axiom. Yes or no?Probably separate.
>>574617184Sure, but that's not the being who gave Mastema dominion over demons in myth. You could put Halphas in that role and it'd make as much sense if the Great Will decided hey buddy, I'm giving you control over Nyx or Nyarlathotep or whatever.
>>574617069If the anime adaptation gives me lots of Dazai fan service then I'll pick V, if not then I'd want a Strange journey anime adaptation instead.
>>574603019They also transform from a human form, so retaining a human-like form makes sense intuitively there.
>>574617069smt 1.if i can pick from spinoffs, if...
kaneko threatens to make a new project
>>574620528Kazuma Kaneko's Shin Tsukuyomi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daPxTVDETCokek
>>574620528>no current plan for AI mechanicsmaybe if people respond positively enough it'll have no AI anything
Do we have futa demon mods yet? This is important.
just came across villion code's review and it's not looking good bruvhttps://note.com/moto_tana_ka/n/n22f37de4aec4?sub_rt=share_bapparently it's a 15-hour game
>>574624892good fucking lord i hate this guy's art
>>574625518>okada AND meguro's games have him as character designerthank god kaneko draws or tsukuyomi would've been ilya kusonov's stuff too
>>574624892I don't care about art as much as I care aboutturn based gameplaythat makes me want to keep playing!
>>574626260are you real
>we weren't on good terms anywayi think we're a day closer to kaneko fully spilling the beans why he left atlus
>>574629106apparently the context was did kaneko approve the tidbit that chiaki was protag's childhood friend lmaooooo
>>574629106damn...
>>574629106it probably is just because he and his boss didn't get along. that's basically what he's saying.his boss probably just kept leaving him out of stuff and it got frustrating. this proofreading thing is just one such instance.
>>574627126real gamerWe can probably fix bad art in a remasterbut we can't fix a shit gameplay systemand honestlysilentlyAI LLM might do just that--and that's a good thing!@
>>574624892Horrendous art, holy shit.
>in SMT 1, you get to know your current alignment status by how your mark turns clockwise/counter-clockwise >and with that we decided not to bring the mechanic back in SMT 2 and you're left to guess by hanging around in jakyou, testing if you can summon these particular demons from your comp or not
idk if anyone can reply to this but i've noticed TMS may play out in the similar way to original V where the game heavily punishes you if you're way too underleveled against the bosses and thus they can just oneshot you like nothing if you spend the game avoiding the encounters (especially on hard), but the difference is you can cheese this kind of level discrepancy by buying tons of attack and magic mirror so when they attack you suddenly they get 700-1000 HP damage out of nowhere. am i wrong? seems like speedrunners just like to to do this over and over again, just letting the bosses get hit with the damage they create.
>>574635558It's been a while since I played it but I remember the game becoming easier with how much chains you put up and more boring as every attack starts a longass chain
Bump
>>574624892an unfortunate sight
i'm so grateful for all random little tidbits i have been learning about megaten recently, and especially if...
Nocturne is shit. Always has been.
>>574646706SMT diurne where I become a demiangel and have to choose between hebrew/islamic/catholic/gnostic reasons when?
>>574629106Atlus is under complete new management now since this happened. It's too bad Kaneko didn't try to stick it out until Sega bought them out because I think things got better.
>>574620528Ha, I guessed it >>574573190
another lore drop from yours trulyhttps://x.com/kazumaKaneko666/status/2079164290771325172>the name if.. came from this https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_%E3%82%82%E3%81%97%E3%82%82>the first idea was to name it shin megami tensei x, but he didn't like it that much>when he researched material about yokai, he came across the word 異聞(いぶん) - 'Ibun' in romaji which is supposed to mean 'strange tale' so he wanted it to be shin megami tensei ibun but other people weren't into it>that's when he remembered the name of the drama and that's the one that got approved>the name 'ibun' ended up being used for Megami Ibunroku Persona
The AI idea was dumb but what was more offensive to me was it being a rougelite card game.
>>574648561if came from that jp if moshimo drama but the ... came from the british if... movie.
Don't have twitter.Before he loses interest in asking questions, can someone please ask if it's a coincidence that this print by Dali looks like both Zaqqum and Sandman?
>>574573190He didn't come up with the game idea. The studio/company did and he was hired for it. That's it.He's not in charge.
>>574652320Did he say that?
>>574650347I agree and on top of that the actual art he drew for the game is some of his worst yet. Even if there was no AI use it would still be an awful game and he'd still be a washed up hasbeen.
I honestly think he should just ask Atlus if he can come back and set up some good contract terms so he doesn't get screwed again. He clearly misses all his old work.
>>574603616Would.
>>574624892Who's the non-binary black person at the bottom?
>>574578438I'm an SJfag, so making Mastema the big boss is what I always wanted. I also like how Tehom and Mastema have reversed gimmicks where you need to hit weaknesses on Tehom while Mastema powers up if you hit his weaknesses.
>>574656123The better question is, why so many ear piercings?
TMS's squad balancing feels kinda weird, I'm on Chapter 3, you can't move Aoi away, Kiria is the strongest character purely because of her massive EP bar and no one else but Oribe has Media. at this point Touma is forgotten, i tried grinding Eleonora a bit but her unlocked skills leave a lot to be desired.having only 6 skill slots by this point feels too stiff, I need more.
>>574606296That's just Japanese, especially among business associates. They take privacy serious, just giving out names seems to them like doxxing.>>574590259Might just be a freelancer he hires every time.
>>574582435You want Estoma and Mana Refill. You can buy a demon with Estoma if you take a right on the first floor but you'll probably want to wait until lv 30 to get Sarasvati who has innate Mana Refill and then spread that to your main team
>>574650946The "if" font used by SMT if was straight up from that movie. I guess it wasn't Kaneko himself that made the logo or decided on the final title though, but probably whoever made the final take stumbled upon that and used it.
>We used to talk about the Shin Megami Tensei series as a nine-part saga in imitation of Star Wars, but we were actually serious about the ideas behind it.>Incidentally, Shin Megami Tensei I through III correspond to Episodes IV through VI.We also had plenty of concepts prepared for*if..., so I plan to utilize those in Tsukuyomi.I really pity him now. He probably won't play any new SMT games because it would make him depressed.
>>574624892This is amazing. These are truly the worst JRPG designs to ever exist, and that's saying a lot. Even furry creatures or non-human things like DQ/Chrono Trigger does is better
do you think people ask kaneko too many questions?i've been seeing nips freaking out and telling others to just stop. stop trying to have everything revealed, etc.i personally really enjoy learning more about megaten and kaneko seems fine answering people's questions. i don't get what the problem is.
>mfw face when Kaneko pulls back the veil and reveals SMT is mostly inspired by random western media in the most surface level ways
>>574671117>Kaneko was the Kojima of JRPG all along
>>574671056>do you think people ask kaneko too many questions?Kinda. I'm amazed that he's bothered to answer so many of them. I wonder when he's going to stop.
>>574671185They should unironically link up for a project
>>574671056Kaneko already said that's he's making his own choice on what to answer or not. So if he's willing to speak that's his own choice. Their whining doesn't matter.
>>574671331i agree
>>574671056I always thought that it was too much. I don't like Tsukuyomi but I know that Kaneko had made his twitter to PR about it. It's one thing to answer one or two questions that may interest him, but now it seems like he's answering questions 24/7. And to be fair, he's not part of Atlus anymore and Atlus doesn't even acknowledge him with any respect or care either even as a legacy name, so mentioning too many insider knowledge can be detrimental.
>>574671404i just think it's cool. but people shouldn't be upset either that not every design has a deep intention behind it.
>>574671404I feel like if the same old guard was in charge of Atlus they would be cracking down on Kaneko doing this but the fact he's speaking willing I think is another sign there has been a massive tonal shift at Atlus since the days Kaneko was being bullied by the higher staff there. The other sign is that you even have Doi saying he's allowed creative freedom to pick demons he wants to draw and drawing them how he likes, and how modelers are taking consideration to translate his designs accurately. A lot of Kaneko's gripes are in regards to how other staff would just ignore his input and do whatever they wanted with his work or forcing him to draw what they wanted and if the design went bad they blamed him.
>>574671117Congratulations, you're this close to realizing the same thing applies to like 80% of all Japanese media.
he said some cool stuff about p2 recently.
>>574671404kaneko is based for revealing how they shoved misinformation in places like with chiaki being demifiend's childhood friend.
i just don't get why people hate this. i could see not caring either way. but a lot of people really love megaten and go to great lengths to track down old magazines for interviews.so why get angry when you can talk to kaneko directly and he might answer?
>>574671185>>574671117Are you guys new? The vast majority of these inspirations where either explicitly stated decades ago or at the very least commonly speculated for decades, none of his muses are randomly coming out of nowhere or particularly out of pocket. This feels like concern trolling. Its not a new fact that zaou gongen is spawn, or that lilith is inspired by night angel, or demifiend was based on the red hot chilli peppers video, or that kaneko loves twin peaks.Not to mention us LONG clocking barbara walkers muddy footprints all over this franchises demon lore.
>>574673646I think people are more upset that their expectations don't hold to reality desu, for years people thought that Kaneko was this god almighty that put so much love and care and thought into his work, that megaten is what it is thanks to him and blahblahblah an nowadays his answers are mostly "I designed this demon because I saw a girl in a magazine that looked cute" or "I don't know, I don't remember" that doesn't stand to the expectations that they believed things were deeper
>>574673919guess that makes sense. people underestimate artists' work. it's not always easy to be super creative especially when you probably have limited resources. what was even available for worldwide mythology in 90s-2000s japan?i'm still gonna throw him a question every now and then regardless.
>>574673919That's exactly the kinds of answers and reasoning he gave in old game guides when doing design commentary too lol.>>574673757A lot of them were also never translated, I guess so you can tell who never looked for these answers before .
>>574673919I blame the people for being retarded/newfags.It is common knowledge amongst people who actually play these games that they've been doing this since the start.Persona 1 and persona 2 have tons of characters based off random celebrities the devs like.The heroine of persona 1 was based off a porn actress kaneko liked. This information has been available for nearly 30 years now
>>574674632Being mistaken for Raidou is the greatest praise a man can receive
https://web.archive.org/web/20150604030650/http://www.1up.com/features/shin-megami-tensei-nocturneGuys... I've just discovered HEARTBRAKING news...Kaneko is a HACK FRAUD who's inspired by WESTERN music videos...Ignore the fact this information is so old I literally had to get this site from the internet archive... this is BRAND NEW INFORMATION... UNVEILED RIGHT NOW... I'm definitely a huge fan of kaneko by the way I'm not just larping... I'm truly devastated hes not the man I thought he was... its so over guys
>>574674632I hate how underutilized yakumo is. And that you learn his backstory from npcs telling you. dude's wearing his dead dad's cop uniform and is LARPING
>>574675264Great back story but ended up a metaphor for the MC.
guys, kaneko said jun liked tatsuya but tatsuya doesn't care about him like that. the whole world is RUIN!!!
>>574676272this is actually funny to me because fujos had this idea for decades that tadashi was the evil hetchud pushing for maya as tatsuya's interest when kaneko was the based lgbt++ally fighting for jun's homosex but in reality he gives no fucks lmao
>>574676272Can't you choose to accept Jun's feelings or is he saying Tatsuya doesn't care unless you choose that option?
>>574676684someone is trying to discredit kaneko's opinion because "he's just the artist."it's funny how people will try to discredit anything that goes against their opinion. but conversely, i slightly agree that not all of kaneko's opinions are fact. i just don't get why people have to get upset if it's only "an opinion" though lol.>>574676916i assume he doesn't see it as canon or he could be trolling lol
>>574671117I really don't get people's shock and awe over this, SMT II was pop culture reference central.You got Chris The Car, Beetlegeuse, Nightbreed's Baphomet, Michael Jackson just hanging out in Hell.I always felt Megaten was quite transparent that it was made by a bunch of nerds.
>>574671117He doesn't remember heath ledger joker in smt 4
>>574677541I genuinely think there is no real shock and awe, its just the usual larp/trolling because of the current publicity on the subject.I fail to see how someone could supposedly care about kaneko and his inspirations passionately enough to be actively sad or disappointed about these "reveals"... yet simultaneously have never read the 3 decades of existing interviews where these things have long already been stated. Two incompatible pieces of information imo.The name of it escapes me but nemissas outfit is just taken outright from some western movie.
>>574657120Oh God, I didn't even notice.
>>574678408Found it, its "the girl on a motorcycle"
>>574676272Bad day to be a fujo.
>>574678408I think what gets me the most, is the way some people think that Megaten being heavily influenced by contemporary fiction at that the time somehow makes it lesser.The whole "We must return to a simpler, more violent way of life!" of Strange Journey's Chaos route, the Demons and the Schwarzvelt being nature made manifest and the overall global warming angle is most certainly inspired by Devilman.This gives SJ it's distinct identity, even if it's easily identifiable where it draws it's inspiration from.
>>574678408>I fail to see how someone could supposedly care about kaneko and his inspirations passionately enough to be actively sad or disappointed about these "reveals"... yet simultaneously have never read the 3 decades of existing interviews where these things have long already been stated. Two incompatible pieces of information imo.You'd genuinely be surprised how many people don't bother searching for things like guidebooks or interviews whatsoever, even more so if they're not translated.A lot of the things he says like others have mentioned, come from artbooks and the like. But also even those existing books don't have that much information either in regards to 'inspirations'. Some people speculated for years that Tatsuya's EP jumper jacket was a reference to MJ's Thriller and it was thought to be common knowledge but he shot that down overnight. Also that Kaneko did say in his own words that Joker's outfit was based on Hazama's back in the 00s, but nowadays he says it had no inspiration.
>>574679607All the more reason fujos need to move onto SMT and stop hoping Persona will ever go full gay.
>>574671320A Hideo Kojima and Kazuma Kaneko game...
>>574675264His final scene in Vengeance good, but it's optional and a lot of people miss it and just a way to write him off the game. I really wish they allowed him to become a party member. He says he will stay in Tokyo to protect it, but it'd make sense if he joined you after his development in any of the routes aside from Vengeance Chaos (where you're going to erase the entire world and build something new).>>574677039>>574676916I mean, Kaneko sees Devil Summoner as just a fictional manga in Persona 1/2, which obviously doesn't line up with Persona 2's actual finished script.
>>574687216There seems to be a lot of this, where he's just giving his opinions or at at best his initial intent when he first conceived of the characters regardless of what ACTUALLY got put into the final script.His comment on the maiden in black specifically was so bizarre, jarring, and just self evidently not congruent with what the reality is in the actual final game that released that I'm now taking literally every piece of info he gives with a hefty grain of salt."Yeah man shes actually this specific named character from a previous game despite this not being referenced in literally any sense whatsover, be it subtext or design hints. And the one actual explicit textual link she has to yuko in the game telegraphing her actual purpose? Thats not real lol, theres no relation at all. The text of the game itself is untrue"Like, what? He's just yapping Genuinely completely threw me off with how little sense it makes
>>574662238Does Estoma even do anything in Nocturne? It's pretty mediocre QoL in my opinion. If you use it to avoid encounters, you level up less. But then Estoma becomes ineffective because it works on demons who are lower level than you.Trafuri >>> Estoma
Holy shit new SMT4 music just dropped https://youtu.be/UkI4KejmSfY?is=BUM6lN0-NbNemuTH
>Arioch wasn't made to be a pussy for Mara to plunge into
>>574700653is any pussy meant for a specific dick?
>>574700903Yuko's milf teacher pussy was made for ME
Who be Demi they Urge rn?
Kaneko should make a demon-human dating sim for his next game with colopl
>>574702805That already exists its called catherine
>>574704992That doesn't have monster girl harems and human X demon fusion (breeding) mechanics.
>>574677541>>574678408There are a few cases where people had these complex theories that apparently aren't right, like I remember someone pointing out some kind of tie between Seth and Satan to explain Seth's SMT design, but then Kaneko revealed it's really just because Zain fuses with Seth for Satan and thus Seth had a Satan-like snake/dragon design that just stuck.
how do i summoned demon
>>574708642giv yer meat a good ol rub!
>>574671285in a way it kinda works now that i feel i should buy tsukuyomi just to give him some money and proceed not touch it at all
>>574678408>The name of it escapes me but nemissas outfit is just taken outright from some western movie.>>574678805He actually said it was Uma Thurman's outfit in the 1998 The Avengers. That's the other funny thing about the Q&A, there's a lot of rugpulls where he hasn't actually seen the thing everyone thought he had.
>>574712853(also soul hackers released 1997 which makes the useage of the avengers outfit confusing, but asherah was based on a music video that came out 6 months before SJ, so any pre-release footage or photos of uma thurman's outfit would be enough for it to fit into soul hackers imo)giving him the benefit of the doubt that he's forgetful and not outright lying
>>574712853>Uma ThurmanHoly fucking mother of gigabased
>>574675245there's a lot of people acting like the pop culture pulls and representations of myth can't co-exist.persephone's design is based on the division of time she spends in the underworld, her face and hair being based on a bladerunner character doesn't diminish that.
>just 2 days ago kaneko had 1000 tweets>now it's 1200 tweetsreplying to 100 questions per day is insane
the game is *supposedly* out on steam in 3 days but still no price yetit's said that it's delayed but the original release date still hasn't been changed
>>574651847is this you or anyone here? at least your stuff got answered
>>574714946One could ask if he's even doing any work at his job at all.
>>574717660this is his new job - social media manager for Kazuma Kaneko
>>574715307i asked for him. it seemed harmless enough and i thought the anon might've been right about it.
>nips going wild for the 5SS referencethey really love their giant mechs
>>5747182965SS is uniquely special, the manga has been going on and off for 30 years, then the mangaka animated the movie by himself along with a small team for like 6 years, finally entered the cinema, and never ever got a DVDD distribution because artistic reason.even nowadays the newest volume can sell like 100k copies in a single week.for me i never read it though lol but i do know Mamoru Nagano's name because he's close with Tomino.
Someone should ask if he intended Kagutsuchi and YHVH to be the same character or if Kagutsuchi's design is just a reference to YHVH. I know it's mentioned in one of the design books but it's not clear and I know people have debated it here several times because of how Nocturne and V connect. And I know Kaneko has nothing to do with V but I think if Kagutsuchi was never meant to literally be YHVH even back then they wouldn't just randomly retcon it for a new game.
>>574718676it's just another thing i have to go check out now. someone thought reiko may have seemed similar to atropos from 5SS afterwards but idk anything about it lol
>>574719219if v is a sequel to iii then there are already retconsif v isn't a sequel to iii then there are still probably retcons
>>574717660the game is releasing soon. he's just doing pr work now. and who knows for how much longer, so if anyone wants to ask him something, just do it.
>>574719219Even in Nocturne, you had the "Messian's God" sending them a message to try to stop the conception from starting.That said, this is Maniax exclusive content. Considering how disorganized the production in general feels like, you could have different people working on the game with different intentions.
>>574719970God could also refer to the Great Will.
>>574719970I imagine a lot of the content added in Maniax was a bunch of ideas meant for the "true" III that never was shoved into Nocturne haphazardly
>>574720373When Yamai was talking about the Nocturne remake he was talking about how they wanted to put a bunch of shit in Nocturne but either ran out of time or had console limitations. One was that the game would take place primarily in the netherworld and it wouldn't be the overworld map. I think Maniax got some of the lost ideas but I think a lot more of the unactualized ones is what became SMTV.
>>574720846Maybe so, but I feel like more of said ideas were probably present in the version of the game seen in the 2017 trailer and not the actual game
>almost 300 replies in less than 2 days/smtg/ is healing...
>>574722734the power of kaneko
>>574722734don't worry, we'll be back to usual smtg eventually
My dumbass bought the wrong Amane doujin. I got the tentacle one with Jezebel
>>574723019okada should try joining the social media and spread the gospel which is villion code
>Shiraishi stuck with Kaneko instead of branching out like Soejimai'm curious what her design sense would be like as a solo designer
>>574726507we could've had her instead of Doi...
>>574714946it was the weekend.
this is okada in 2026
>>574687216>mean, Kaneko sees Devil Summoner as just a fictional manga in Persona 1/2, which obviously doesn't line up with Persona 2's actual finished script.either it's a scriptwriter thing with the story writer intending things kaneko isn't aware of, or the characters really were just meant as fanservice, as kaneko said. he did come up with a lot of the concepts to be used in the story for the other devs even if he didn't write the actual events himself.and we do know me that the magazines may even contain faulty information with the chiaki childhood friend thing so not even the magazine going over the timeline may be accurate.and of course, kaneko could just be forgetting things because most of this was 20-30 years ago, so he might just be wrong.but i think he's probably right about the characters from other games just being fanservice, even if it seems odd in some instances.like, tamaki appearing in p1 and p2 doesn't mean anything for if... nor does she affect persona in any meaningful way. same for hazama in soul hackers, etc. his appearance means nothing and you can still interpret if... however you want and with whichever ending you want.kyouji being in p2 likely doesn't mean anything either.but that's just my opinion.
>>574728603and with the case of tamali in particular, it seems odd why they would try to canonize her or something in persona when you can pick male or female in if...the fanservice explanation makes a lot of sense to me. now it's like she isn't canon and that's probably not even what they were going for. neither tamaki nor nobu is canon. so play as whichever mc in if... you like.
>>574729162>and with the case of tamali in particular, it seems odd why they would try to canonize her or something in persona when you can pick male or female in if...yeah, kaneko's very insistent that the protagonist is (You), so (You) have to at least name them. for the games to then turnaround and say "Actually you are a girl who looks like Maki Uchida and you are fucking Satomi Tadashi's self-insert" goes against that pretty hardeven P2EP had that save transfer thing where elements of your Tatsuya from IS were applied to the Tatsuya in EPthough i think a lot of fans just have a stupid understanding of canon where it's "connections" and not "things that 100% happened in the world and have impact on the narrative"
did you know gemori was in nocturne owo
>>574729451>you are fucking Satomi Tadashi's self-insertkek. this always makes me laugh. what were they thinking with this. and it's written so weirdly with tamaki seeming like she doesn't even like him at first. why would they write this? did tadashi have a mind break fetish or something? were the other devs making fun of him?>understanding of canon where it's "connections" and not "things that 100% happened in the world and have impact on the narrative"yeah, pretty much.but i kinda take it as being similar to how the wild wasteland perk works in fnv where you can find references to movies like star wars and indiana jones, like finding luke's corpse or something (or it was his parents), but it doesn't mean they took place in fnv's world, if that makes sense.you can find tamaki, kyouji, hazama, and other characters in various megaten games, but it doesn't mean those same games really happened.tamaki appearing in persona doesn't mean if... happened in persona's world, as odd as it seems, since she even vaguely references not wanting to talk about her old school, referencing the text crawl at the end of if... with the students all being traumatized but not able to talk about it because they're the only ones who experienced it.
>>574726507Shiraishi stuck with Kaneko though it all and even left the company huh? Why didn't he marry her?
was wondering what happened to satomi tadashi and then remembered he also joined with okada's gang to make that gamea man gotta eat i suppose
>>574676272lel
>>574732396Persona 2 fags lost.SMTV fags won.
>>574727419still rocking the shades, is he almost a head of grey too?
>>574715307Ah just a coincidence. well it was worth a shot. At least now I know.>>574718170Thank you for asking.
>>574712853Tbh it's very likely Uma's costume was as much influenced by that movie as by the original Emma Peel bodysuit.
>>574730386Who's to say they didn't .
>>574730139with how she asks herself why she's even dating tadashi it's gotta be an inside joke. tadashi probably forced it and then the other devs snuck in lines making fun of it.
how does one play TMS without beating your cock to the sight of oribe's massive tits, genuinely distracting
>>574737112idk try a chastity cage or something
So when are we getting SMT6? It hasn't even been announced yet. I don't mind waiting a few years, but at least give us CONFIRMATION of any kind to tell us they're working on SMT6 the way they're working on Persona 6.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE SMTVV!
>>574738406Does VV have some kind of a photo mode or something? How are you getting these nice crisp action screenshots?
Imagine having a Lilithwife.
>>574738514SMTVVFix and the magic of UE4.
>>574732396Tatsuya is straight confirmed.
>>574738952Fucking hell that looks neat. I wish I had a gaming PC. I'm pretty sure an entry level PC these days still cost like 1K+ thanks to RAM and SSD prices being absurd (and, if Gabe Newell is right, it's gonna get more and more absurd with the coming years).Do you think you can take pictures of Konohana Sakuya and Yoko (specifically her Panagia version)?
>>5747392402/2 KEYhttps://files.catbox.moe/0j1d5s.png>>574739234with that kind of stylized background?
kino
>>574739331Maybe something with a cleaner background but with neat lighting like >>574738406. I want some wallpaper material with my favorite girls. I would absolutely appreciate it.
>>574739040uhhh actually uhhhhh kaneko isn't the writer uhhhhhhhh so his word means nothing uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ignore eternal punishment
>>574739240whoa mama
>>574727419>that Ilya Kuvshinov abomination on the rightWhy would you do this to yourself? Your native Japan is filled with tons of amazing character artists that you could have hired to design characters for your new game, yet you chose this insufferable Russian plagiarist and careerist who can only do one design to work on your game.
>>574739657
>>574739556sure but it slightly bothers me they used a basic font for 真・女神. it looks jarring against the fancy font for ダンバイン.
>>574739675they are just his opinion so it's fine to disregard them if you want. he doesn't present it as fact there. but it's silly how some people were angry.
>>574739832Thank you. Damn she's so fucking beautiful. Doi's base design is amazing, but she looks even better in game.
>>574740096Whoa what happened to her hand there? But it's fine I guess. I'll just crop that out and use it as my phone wallpaper.
>>574740096
>>574740236
>>574740096need more normal school girl Yoko, preferably with legs
>>574740236Thank you.>mfw she'll never invite me to make love to her with this face and pose
>>574740369
doi is a better human character designer than kaneko ever was
>>574740783...for the most part.Minus pic related, of course.
>>574740971john lennon's lyric on the shirt made up for it
>>574740547JUST LILIM
kaneko praising hashino
>>574741520
>>574741828having a fist fight
>>574741969serious Yoko
>>574742202she really is pretty, huh?
>>574739240>>574739331Nice
>>574742336backshot
>>574742608LEGS
>>574742336>>574742608>>574742713I wish she had a more casual skin like of her in a white dress or a simple shirt and short jeans.
>>574742956yeah, it's either full nude or double F tits. Not cool!
>>574743181
Regardless of what direction they go with SMT6, I hope they bring back Ryota Kozuka as composer. That man was on fire for both SMT5 and VV. Even Shoji Meguro in his prime wasnt able to compose THAT many amazing battle themes for a single game and its expansion.
>>574743292Cute Mermaid!
isamu is a neet?
>>574744131Isamu NEETa
>>574744131>the guy who wants a world where he doesn't have to interact with anyone is a shut-inholy fuck!
>>574744131does that mean he skips school
>>574741812>Even Kaneko is glazing chadshino for metaphorSome people will swear off of SMT forever just for him saying this
>>574746153he's not praising Metaphor there, though, just saying Hashino is the one who changed the direction of Atlus games.
>>574746153He's talking about atlus as a whole and just mentioned his latest work to make an example.I very much doubt Kaneko played any recent atlus game.
>>574746307>>574746457No, he's praising him for being more the director of metaphor than a company shillI definitely wouldn't have expected him to ever bring it up on his own for this reason but if nothing else he apparently has way more respect for what Hashino did with Studio Zero than he seems to for the rest of the business
>>574746669the grok translation is pretty shit i brought it into another AI heh
>first it was the personafags but now the smt side has to find a way to deal with how one of their idols likes metaphor too now
>>574746858There's only like one schizo here that hates metaphor. Every SMT talking head that's still around either likes or loves it
>>574746669>No, he's praising him for being more the director of metaphor than a company shill"the person who directed metaphor" is kaneko's nickname for hashino just as "the guy famous for being a persona designer" is soejimametaphor also has nothing to do with atlus's direction changing after persona 3, a game that came out 20 years earlier, which is what he's replying to
>>574747056Kind of a funny post to read because me and the only 2 people I know who played metaphor ALL dropped it at pretty much exact the same point and agreed for slightly different reasons that it was not great. (lost shinjuku)The reasoning was a little different between us since only me and another guy had actually played etrian to knew metaphor was tying itself to that, the third guy just thought it was an SMT reference ("dude it was just tokyo again, seriously??"), but still agreed that the big twist about the world being a reference was boring even if he didn't know the true origin of the reference.Another shared opinion between all three of us was that the absolute highlight of the game was the section in the castle with the baby and the grieving woman, but absolutely nothing else at any point came close to the level of that sections writing.
Apaosha sounds like an aggressive, boastful old man in the jp version, and uses "kono washi/このワシ" to refer to himself, "washi/ワシ" being commonly used by old men in jp fiction, and adding "kono/この" to the beginning makes it sound like he's speaking highly of himself, and he uses "jai/じゃい" as a sentence ender. "Ja" is a stereotypical sentence ender for old men in jp fiction and the "i/い" at the end expresses strong emotion. The "washi/ワシ" being in katakana instead of hiragana "washi/わし" or kanji "washi/儂" may give an extra layer of him highlighting himself when he refers to himself because katakana is sometimes used to put emphasis on words.
>>574747724You're trying way too hard to reinterpret the post because you aren't happy he mentioned metaphor at all I think
>>574746669Feel free to ask him if he played metaphor then.I have the same opinion as >>574747724>>574748138He literally did the same for Soejima, if anything, you're the one trying hard to shill metaphor.But hey, you can directly ask Kaneko if he played it, will you do it?
>>574748392>if he playedYou didn't even try to move the goalpost, you just pointed to one at an adjacent stadium
>I have the same opinion as another post I made but I'm confident you can't tell that one is mine too what prompts this behavior? insecurity?
>Kaneko praises the king and causes a small meltdown at 5 in the morning
>>574748505Praising someone for making a game you never played yourself is not the own you think it is...
>>574748746>people try to correct you about grok translation being wrong>NOOOOOO MY NARRATIVEEEEEEEE THIS IS A MELTDOWNwhy are metafaggots like this?
>>574748746idk why you would expect anything else from the regulars around here at this point
>>574746669Yeah this post was inevitably going to make the schizo here very angry lol
>>574749497>>574749586>replying to yourselfI know it's 4pm in jakarta but you could be doing something else with your lunch break
>>574749586You literally got btfo and are coping.
spamming more will make you feel so much better surely
>>574750027I know you dont have the balls to report because you're not actually sure it's samefagging and are scared of getting banned yourself for a false report.Faggot.
why are anons arguing over kaneko saying the direction of games changed after persona 3 because of hashino rather than because of atlus?
>>574750192because there's an anon obsessed with making sure metaphor is the most shilled game of the milennium and everyone that says otherwise is the same person according to him
>>574750192because someone's autism compelled them to try very very hard to make it look like hashino wasn't getting praised for not being a company dog
>>574750170what the fuck does this post even mean there isn't even a report category for samefagging
>>574750256for someone who complains about people's english you sure can't understand the basic english spoken by grok's translation
>>574750340He probably thinks he got banned in the past for spamming the "Spam/Flooding" category and doesn't actually know what samefagging is. I don't expect more from someone that can't see the word metaphor without pissing and shitting themselves
>>574750461>doesn't actually know what samefagging isThis sounds literally exactly like a schizo loser from /pg/ go figure
>>574750553Weird thing to talk about yourself in third person but ok
>>574750192Someone here has a boner for metaphor (he's the anon who support immigration if you've been here long enough to reecognize him) and for that reason, he's trying hard to make the game looks good.He got btfo and changed tactics from praising hashino/metaphor to attacking anyone who disagree.And just like that, Kaneko's post doesn't matter anymore, he's too busy seething and samefagging himself.
>>574750769m8 you went way too hard here for anyone to take you the least bit seriously surely you realize that
>>574750869The fact that you replied immediately means he's right
>>574750921>he'sthat's adorable
>>574728603>>574729162We already have other cases for things like these, like Vincent from Catherine being in Persona 3 or Raidou/Dante in Nocturne. People should learn to just accept these little cameo references as different unrelated versions of characters like all the demons are between games and nothing more. This western obsession with extended universes has to stop
he introduces him that way when talking about Maken X, toothe intent is clearly "Hashino is an impressive person for changing Atlus's direction"
>>574750945Oh so now you're doing the thing that everyone that recognizes you is a woman or SEA? You're not helping yourself in this case if you're trying to make it not obvious it's you.
>>574751005No you don't get it, Kaneko is actually slandering him he's being sarcastic if he says something good about someone before 6AM.
>>574751005Anon, it doesn't matter. The metafaggot only cares about his headcanon and he'll keep insisting that you're deliberately mistranslating.
>>574750869I'll just end here by saying that you're not as smart as you think you are and that your vision of the world is heavily skewed by the decades of propaganda you've been submitted.If you didn't realize that when everyone here praised Futsunushi when you expected the opposite, nothing can help you.I do wish well to you however, and hope you find yourself a nice nigress to marry and complain about racists with.
>>574751190I'm still not sure who in your head you imagining you're talking to but you're not going to stop having meltdowns over the most insane shit any time soon lol don't even pretend like you are
>>574751319Do you think recognizing people through the way they write is a superhuman feat that no one can do?Just like people can recognize the migatard in this thread so they can recognize you.
>>574751190Anon, genuinely what the fuck are you talking about? You just shifted into a conversation about a completely different argument like it was nothing, are you assuming everyone in this general who has ever disagreed with you on any topic is the same recurring antagonist? The casual mix of "heh, I'm leaving this argument because I'm the bigger man" seconds after you completely unprompted brought up some old discussion nobody else referenced but you're clearly still thinking about doesn't actually sell itself all that well, you realise that right?
>>574751570>Do you think recognizing people through the way they write is a superhuman feat that no one can do?No, you just seemingly suck massively at it I only popped in here a bit ago because you were spamming in /meta/ and linked directly to this threadidk who you think from here is also a dedicated poster trying to ruin your life from there but /meta/ is racist as fuck lol
Ngl the immigration part out of nowhere made me chuckle
>>574751612We both know why metaphor is being shilled here and it's not for its gameplay.
>>574751720>but /meta/ is racist as fuck lolI've never been there despite what you think but feel free to show examples
>>574728603For this one there was an older interview already online where we know they were implemented without Kaneko's involvement.https://megatenwiki.com/wiki/Protagonist_(Shin_Megami_Tensei:_Devil_Summoner)#cite_note-4>Kaneko: Back when the previous game was made, the idea behind Mark wearing Kyoji's T-shirt was simply that *Devil Summoner* existed as a manga in that world—but taking it as far as they did... well, that was a bit much.>――Did Satomi-san take the lead on the detective agency?>Okada: "Lead" might not be the right word—"running wild" is more like it (laughs).>――Did it end up that way without you or Kaneko-san even realizing it?>Okada: Oh, no, that’s not it. They asked if it was okay to do it, and when I gave the green light...His recent quote about Persona 2 too>As for this Kyoji, the person in charge of the events just decided to do it that way on their own, so I’m not entirely sure, but I imagine it was intended as a nice little extra for the players. After all, it is the 'Rumor System' we're talking about.https://x.com/kazumaKaneko666/status/2077598342503444711So, Okada seems to have allowed the story writer to add the Devil Summoner stuff, but it doesn't seem like Kaneko was ever on board with it.
>>574751753It was over the second he started his samefagging ramble desu sometimes it's hard to tell because of how retarded everyone is on average but he 100% does the same thing on /pg/ regularly. I don't know if it's just the obvious language barrier and he actually doesn't know what that means or if he does it on purpose but I also don't really care too much
>Satomi Tadashi: Tada-kun>Shogo Isogai: Gain-kun>Soejima: "that famous character designer who's currently working on Persona", or some variant>Shiraishi: "someone who does the coloring and finishing touches on my illustrations exclusively" (though in a question where she was referred to by name, he also referred to her by name; presumably because there's no point being vague once it's known in the conversation)and the best for doi was just someone asking if he spoke with Doi and replying "hardly ever"what have we learned? nothing. there's probably japanese politeness folded 2000 times that a gaijin like me could never understand. i just think it's kinda funny
>>574752632>You're not as smart as you think you are
>>574752778I thought he worked with Doi for a while?How can you work with someone and hardly ever talk to him? You'd have to talk at least for work purpose.
>>574752778he sounds friendlier towards isogai and tadashi if it means anything to you.is also polite to avoid needlessly namedropping people.
>>574753074To be exact, he was asked if he had interactions with "Dさん" who joined in 1999, and his answer was "hardly any", so I assume the subtext is non-professional business. Pic related, Kaneko was in the interview when they hired him, so they obviously spoke. As for non-professional interactions, he lent a Sega console to a PR guy according to said PR Guy's twitter (the one who was the model for Meteor Masa in Persona 2, even uses that as his profile pic), so he's clearly not all work all the time.
>>574753371I see, thanks.
>>574752559I wonder if the boss whom kaneko said he wasn't on good terms with was okada
>>574753683>I was hoping my boss (someone I often appeared with in interviews at the time) would make it known, but that didn't happen. I can guess why he did that, but I've never asked him, so I don't know the real reason. We're not on good terms, after all.https://x.com/kazumaKaneko666/status/2079070006546215423"that guy i went on interviews with" somehow feels like the coldest nickname even though it is what he's most known for image-wise
>>574753683>>574754843>Okada and Kaneko are in such bad terms that this is likely by Ilya ended up being the artist in villion code and not himIt's not like Kaneko working on that game would've saved it, but you'd think having the golden opportunity of getting the gang together would've been a good advertisement angle. At least Kaneko still cares about Tadashi.
>>574755049Their feud was from a long time ago, nowadays only bitterness left in Kaneko. At least he can be smug Okada hasnt exactly lit the gaming world since their time together.
>>574755049>It's not like Kaneko working on that game would've saved itDunno, I avoided Villion BECAUSE it looks like shit, I dont actually know anything about the gameplay, for all I know, it could be fun to play (though I doubt it considering the dev but you never know).Tsukuyomi didn't sell either but it at least generate discussion and I'm willing to bet that it still did better than Villion.
>>574754843>>574164997Also mentioning boss and interviewYeah it's definitely Okada. He left atlus earlier than Kaneko so his reasoning to eventually leave atlus a decade after was not from him.
https://x.com/i/status/2079494094834040960Lmao wtf
>>574755582Accurate depiction of Mickey, especially when you know a little about Walt Disney.Donald didnt deserve this however.
Idk if this controversial but light/dark now having non insta kill spells is really lame. Why make everything the same thing but a different color
>>574757638The big issue was how useless they were against bosses.And they only make random battle easier at the beginning, late game demons often resist both.
I dropped ps2 raidou 1 years ago, did the remake make it more funAll I really remember was a fuckton of backtracking and uninteresting fights
>>574757953Maybe make all ailments light/dark and give bosses a trait for insta kill protection or something so highly spec demons can still help land those.If ailments are too strong which they usually are, that's why jrpgs have a hardon for never letting you use them. Make bossessuffer a weaker version of those ailments or something.Idk I don't mind light dark getting more spells, but just generic elemental damage skills is lame
Lmao
>>574757983Yes, though some here dont like it because it makes some visual worse but those people dont really care about the gameplay.
Yoshiyuki tomino written megaten game when?
>>574757638That is the one thing I believe Pokemon does better than SMT, with different elements being associated to different status effects. Weird too since SMT used to have those too, but I guess they were too broken and just ditched instead of balanced.
>>574759823Ice/elec were massively op compared to the other elements.DeSu brought them back but still ran into the same issue.
>>574552887>I don't have the link anymore thoughhttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1S7HBTUzen46vF6fkcJPw9MptPrCLUhzEI was perusing the /trash/ archives and I came across a smaller set she did of Eriko from Persona 1https://mega.nz/folder/4rsFCAQJ#lLsK3gzAPRg8gpgMtgKGOg
>>574612638That's the flow of the game, you do end up outside of tarturus for a pretty long time in some months.Which I really don't get why people call persona a good social simulator when half of time you are just going though 2-3 loading zones to get to a store to increase your social stat repeat 40 times. I think it would have been better if night time was removed and in exchange the amount of points needed was just lower. the combat really is the better bit of the two.Game is about efficiency in managing your day to day time schedule, which does admittedly help put me in the shoes of my protag when I already have thhe next 4 days planned it does become pretty worth it a few months in when you got a few high social links and get to fuse a fuck ton of bonus XP skills onto some overpowered demon tho.
>>574762161The social stat grinding and how s links actually work gameplay is literally on par with some western erotica RPG maker games
>>574758361>he's a NEETBest lore drop yet. Hope he gets some art based on that.
>>574758361>>574763212He can't be a NEET if he's in education (high school) though. I think Kaneko just wanted to say he's a shut-in which is kinda obvious given his personality and Reason.
>>574708642You should ask >>>/x/.I'm not even joking.
>>574765278Is this board legit or it just full of schizos
>>574765838Schizos
>>574758103Persona 5 has both damaging and instakill Light and Dark. Newer SMT games have a chance of instant death against weak target or when smirking. Is that not enough?
Namaah is in Dx2.
>>574765838Yes
Anyone got any other old school JRPGs with a similar feel to SMT1? I love the oppressive nature of the game and the post modern setting.
>>574740971I thought Nanashi looks cool...he's one of my favorite protag design...
Can't believe Kaneko likes to go to gay drug clubs.Well actually I can. But it's still funny he just liked some edgy Alice in Wonderland painting.
>>574766956>Race: Qadištukinda lame, was hoping to see what race they'd be assigned to outside the context of vvit'll have to wait until the next game, i guess
>>574739240>>574739331Thank you.Made for domination loss.
>>574743292Mermaid's ass is flat.Flat!Still would full force.
>>574774118And he wasn't observing, he went there to get high and then came up with crazy smt ideas, lmao. I can imagine him getting high and watching two dudes fuck going "yeah, that's going in the game.".
>>574765838Yes. If you're a schizo.
>>574765838They have comprehensive documentation on demon summoning. I've read a lot of it and everything you need to do. They go from extremely elaborate to simple shit like lighting candles. However, all of them require making vocal sounds and swinging your body around in ways that will most definitely fucking hurt. Not on purpose mind you, the point isn't self harm (though there are self harm rituals) it's just knowing how hard you have to scream and for how long would definitely hurt my throat, not to mention swinging yourself around like that. Everyone is different though. Just be aware going in that there are no "quiet" rituals. If you want to follow the steps you're going to have to scream for a lot of them.
>>574781136These rituals sound more like self induced psychosis
>>574782214They are. Every single one isn't about seeing a demon physically in front of you but letting the demon posses you. It's just psychosis. There are steps for summoning, what to look out for when the demon is summoned, and then steps you have to take to return the demon from where it came, OR ELSE. Things like that.
>>574765838Never been there but I know pic related somewhat works.
>get a game with all 72 ars goetia demons>72 falleni know some aren't in fallen but shut up
>>574782708>hyper-realistic e-mailI assume it's covered in hyper-realistic blood as well?
>>574765838If any of this shit was real you would be seeing and hearing about it constantly. Supernatural shit actually happening would not stay as some hidden secret club in the age of information. Information WOULD leak to the general public
>>574793841muito real
>>574793841>Information WOULD leak to the general publicEven if it did, how do you tell apart the truth from schizo?
>>574793841>Information WOULD leak to the general publicWe've known about NASA confirming aliens to exist not that long ago but we've been so fed up with "are ayys real or fake" info for as long as the internet's been around that no one cares anymore. An ayy could probably take samples of your hair every time as you sleep and you wouldn't even know or care.
>>574797718>An ayy could probably take samples of your hair every time as you sleep and you wouldn't even know or care.If it wants my DNA it better suck my dick to get it
hoy
hell's bells
Damn me, it's the Black Samurai!
