Best Friends Forever EditionThe Wheel has turned once againDominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 3400 units, 1100 spells and 400 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them. It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.>Our pastebin (extremely outdated)https://pastebin.com/wjbSA98Y>Steamgrouphttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya>Multiplayer guide/game hosting services>Hinaserver https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/548312356/#548526452https://hinaserver.net>Blitzserverhttps://blitzserver.net(Dom 6)https://beta.blitzserver.net/games>Llamaserver:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1212948582>Documentationhttps://illwinter.com/dom6/docs.html>Tools>Mod inspectorhttps://larzm42.github.io/dom6inspector/>Wikihttps://illwiki.com/>Pretender calculatorhttps://zollqir.github.io/pretenders-dom6/https://caleb-distributive.github.io/pretenders-dom6/ (website down?)>Debug modhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3083231618>Communion fatigue calculator (still dom5)https://instacalc.com/53495>Automatically prevent starts in all provinces with less than X connections (still dom5)https://nixx.is-fantabulo.us/dom5ranmapnos/>How do I change the fonts?Replace guifont.ttf, guifont_fancy.ttf and guifont_texty.ttf in the game's 'data' folder (C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Dominions6\data)>Fan arthttps://thronebooru.booru.org>Sloop’s Comfy Balance Modhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1zeDyK8Zb_p4lIJ0yp3a3ikMprRkmBCWvy31_4jBen3Q/edit?usp=sharing>other asynchronous strategy gamesSolium Infernum.Previous Pantokrator>>574170037
And we'll start with a poll for the most creative/funny/whatever prophet names for vanilla_MAcchiato:https://strawpoll.com/eNg6vQJQ4gA
Goat Sun
First for time honored traditions.
>>574543726>2 hours left on the final battle>Lanka still hasn't sent in the turnFucking monkeys
>>574543782damn, ninja'd.Also ARENA KAILASA SCRIPT YOUR MAGES TO ATTACK CLOSEST AND LET'S GOOO
>>574543726Hellwar this man
>>574543765BOAR
>>574543809So how many golems will we see?
>last thread got shoahed by fortnite gen and life is strange general The absolute state. It had only been a few hours since the last post before KIA
I would had bumped last thread if i were given virgin Zemaitia brides
>9 pointsMy brilliant Muspelheim strategy and planning made me win over the more experienced anons in the arena, i shall continue winning other games as jotunheim with my big ass wolf pretender
>>574504408It is easy. You figure out what every race and race theme does first (like how Advanced and Imperial humans have chance to recruit Sleepers and demi-ghouls) then you pick the unit filter you like that compliments them and you make 12 iterations of that preset. Save the seed of the good ones and once you have 20+ good ones you make a Nationgen with all of those seeds at once
>Muspelheim actually stayed at the top all game longShameful display
>>574543726I forgot to rename my prophet because I was distracted doing my turns while showing my friend the game AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>574548987All because none of the /domg/ veterans wanted to attack in those first turns.
>>574549864All because someone *jokingly* suggested to do so and i took the plunge tbf
>>574549864They knew they had already won, so further fighting was pointless.
>>574543782mooses and goats, domg staples
Naditus are for SEX not as communion sacrifices you fag
Ur murdered my army, not sure what happened after but Vanheim won the last turn of the arena
>>574550951This, real /domg/ veterans can foresee the future up to 100 turns ahead from just looking at the open game page in their browser. Which is why I haven't played a single game in over 3 years and I don't even have Dom6 installed, as I know it's over just by quickly glancing at the settings, nations that have joined, and name of the game.
why are so many spells unable to be used underwater wtf? I get a lot of them, but I can't use gift of true sight underwater? the fuck
>>574555271I suppose it only works through gasses.
>>574554618Ur attacked Muspelheim and wonUbar attacked Ur and wonAbysia attacked Ubar and ownCaelum attached Abysia and wonTir na n'Og attacked Caelum but was defeatedVanheim attacked Caelum and wonVanheim is most probably the winner of the Arena.
>>57455651510 points if my math aint wrong, fucking elves
ELVES HATE THEMFind out the one weird trick that allowed 7 human sized birds to defeat a 80 strong force with a freaking elemental king (it was summon air elementals + storm + wrathful skies).
Dear Arena host, can you post the graphs ?
>>574556515Of course I get matched against Abysia as soon as he hits the arena. Again! At least I won another battle.Rng is a cruel mistress.
If my graph doesnt look like a car running off a cliff i will be dissapointed
Every game that has ever existed ever without exception that involves sieges is shitty and unfun
>>574557289Did I manage to snipe you every single time, or was there someone else?Also, a point should be awarded for every 1000 kills in the next non-duel arena game.
>>574559379Top lad absolutely mogging everyone else.
>>574559379I lost everytime to you, except once to vanheim when my mages routed my camels with falling fires.
>>574556919If it helps i didn't script any of them properly and was out of gems so even the ones scripted from my previous battle weren't doing shit, I just slammed everything at the Arena
How do you expand into the underground plane without any units who can see down there? Is there a magic lantern or something?
>>574560884Theres a nature spell that gives troops darkvision.Or you summon stuff with darkvision (undead maybe)Cat eyed warriors
I forgot to say gn and this is what happens???
>>574560884If your troops are high quality enough, or in big enough numbers you can still slap indies around in the dark. Especially the weaker indies types down there like zotz, pale ones, bekrydes, longdead.Cynocephalians, troggs and shades you should be careful with though.
>FINAL BATTLE OF THE ARENAUr vs Muspelheim was a surprisingly tame yet very effective display of magic. Muspel had some early success, but the huskarls decided to run in circles chasing Howl wolves, and the giants weren't able to carve through Ur's troops fast enough. Foul vapors did the rest.Ubar tore through what was left of Ur in an instant. An overwhelming amount of evocations (I didn't know Storm and Fire Storm could be active at once!) that targeted directly Ur's mages ended the battle within a few turns.But again, as ALMOST EVERY SINGLE TIME BEFORE, Abysia arrived right after Ubar to the arena with an anti-Ubar bless and tore them a new one. I didn't know Heat from Hell could be active TWICE at once, one from a mage of each side! Ubar's army literally melted away after just a few rounds. I think it's the camel riders who initiated the rout. Or the camels. The riders were gone.Caelum matched Abysia's "MORE EVOCATIONS" approach. The buffed mammoths held out surprisingly long. Caelum's pretender cast a few excellently aimed rounds of Niefel Flames that erased a half of Abysia's mages and earned victory. Yet, the Corruptor and some Annointed of Rhuax with heavy equipment survived a while longer. They didn't cause too much damage, but the routing mammoths and wrathful skies did obliterate most of Caelum's mage lineup once the battle seemed all but won.Still, the handful of mages left were enough to repel Tirnanog's army, mostly thanks to an extremely well placed Lightning Field that obliterated all of the elven infantry in a single cast.Vanheim brought a lot more firepower and lightning resistant cavalry. Caelum tried the Lightning Field play again but it didn't play out this time, and they were swiftly defeated.Mictlan arrived last, with a boatload of blood slaves and summoning horrors. Yet again, the horrors decided to stick around and mostly ate Mictlan's own mages while the elves focused down the jaguar warriors.5 points for Vanheim!
>>574564247And so the arena concludes: with the 5 points of the final battle, Vanheim climbs up to 10 and places himself right over the arena's favorite.A clear lead and a clear, if tight and probably kinda lucky, victory.Congratulations to the victor!
I wonder if map movement decides who arrives first in the arena and hence the reason ubar got fucked so often? or is it really pure RNG?
>>574564462In domgs darkest hour against the invading noobs we had to turn to elves to protect our dignity.Phyrric victory at best, Domg's reputation is in tatters.
>>574564749The wiki says its completely random. I don't know if that is truly accurate though
>>574564462Based vikings
>>574564462This was the first great Pankoman's Arena. I thank you all for joining this little experiment of mine, it was quite fun. It might have also been first /domg/ game where no one went AI or started stalling until the very last turn.The second edition, Pankoman's Arena MA, will start in about two weeks. It'll feature about the same rules, possibly with a couple tweaks like adding a gemgen/gem permanence mod.Once again, I invite everyone who was bitching in the thread about how they'd quickly win and how no one was playing correctly to join in and show us how it's done.https://hinaserver.net/game/79-----There was very little feedback, but to address what there was:>we should use some kind of gem permanence or gemgens mod, it's too easy to run out of gems in the first one or two battles when you still have to possibly fight more in the arenaAgreed, it kinda breaks the game and makes arriving last be even stronger than it should. I'll be adding something of that sort.>killing lots of troops should give pointsWhile I understand the frustration, it didn't seem that horde/skellyspam based nations did better than few-but-strong nations. In fact, quite the opposite. This rule would only make horde nations gift free points to few-but-strong nations. I don't think it's a good change.
>>574565808Water nations please.
>>574565808I personally would like each player land to have maybe 1-3 more provinces. Hopefully to make the magic site situation a little more consistent. I got screwed on magic sites big time, especially for my primary paths.
>>574565874I'm up for adding a couple player islands made of water provinces, but>no turning the arena into a water province>no other shenanigans that ruin the game conceptWould that work for you?
>>574561482I've got so many Research goals in the early game I don't think I could spear also going Alt 3 for Gift of Cat Eyes and Undead aren't easy for me to access.So I'm left with playing it safe and slow as >>574563109 suggests. Hopefuly the first provience at the entrance isn't Troggolodytes, again.Releated, this was an AI attacking Indies and how do 40 Sacred Enki troops get beaten by 40 Ko-Onis? It was a dark cavern so I figured that was the reason but I can't really be sure especially with that big of a difference. I can also post a screen of the battle or footage of it.
>>574566337How about no rituals that affect water too, since it's not going to affect the arena which is where we are fighting.No sea of ice/vengeful water/whatever
>>574565808>I invite everyone who was bitching in the thread about how they'd quickly win and how no one was playing correctly to join in and show us how it's done.Hmm... no
>>574565808>There was very little feedbackI think things went on pretty smoothly. It was a giant mess where you can't really plan ahead but good fun. I'm glad to have been part of this madness.Maybe invite UW nation next time, so they get rightfully stomped by ground dwellers.
>park stack at a siege>they all get attrition and dieI don't understand, domgbros. how do I into sieging? I lost a ton of units over a few turns and the only thing I could do was sit there I couldn't attack..
>>574566465Nah vengeful water is fine. It needs dominion to work
>>574567153My 10 dominion spread build is about to own
>>574566465>>574566690Glad to hear.I'll be adding a couple UW player spots for Ys and Therodos fans, but no drowning the arena/other players, no sea of ice, no vengeful waters, etc.>>574566242Can consider it. I was playing Mictlan so I mostly used blood slaves, and I still felt short on gems. A few more will probably be helpful, but I also really like this aspect of having to pick what you go for. 6-7 provinces per player instead of 5 should be fine.>>574566986There's a couple nature items that give supply, and every nature mage also adds a few points for free just by being there. Have commanders carry them to feed your army. Note that they stack but not if two of them are held by the same commander: if you have two Cauldrons, you'll have to give them to two different guys.There's also items (gatecleaver) and spells (crumble I think) to take down sieged forts faster. You can also bring other troops: mindless help less, flyers help more. Undead don't eat so you can throw as many as you need into the siege.And there's also the good old strategy of letting the fort be with just enough siegers to kill whatever you think is inside, and marching on with the rest of your army to conquer the rest of his shit.
https://hinaserver.net/game/75https://hinaserver.net/game/75https://hinaserver.net/game/759 players wooho! I'll start a countdown of 3 days when we hit our 10th player!
>>574567414I did not know any of these things about sieging. thanks sensei
>>574567702Brown SEXO
>>574564247Any chronics to share? Some people seemed to have interesting plans going on.I tried going all in on vampire lords with the idea of attacking the arena every turn with the same army, but it just didn't pan out. Took too long, I couldn't get enough slaves, and Agartha's mad gods ate most of my patrollers so I had to stop for a few turns too. And by the time I had 5 or 6 vampires, everyone was fielding advanced magic and no one gave a shit about them anymore. I also was shy with them, because I feared that the mad gods might show up at the arena and eat their souls, which would counter the immortality.Tried pivoting to horrors, but that's more of a fire and retreat thing than something to help you win a battle so it didn't work much either.My bless was a bit of a mess, too. I went for strong resistances, Unholy Weapons and Unbearable Splendour, which I always wanted to try out. My plan was to go for the early arena points by challenging awake pretenders with the thread of death or blindness, but turns out no one went for an akawe pretender so it fell flat.At least I still won two points
>>574567403If astral corruption is fair game Vengeful water is peanuts next to it
>>574565808I don't remember, did the extra incomes etc affect stuff like freespawn and bloodhunting?
THE DUEL ARENA HAS STARTEDThis will be a guided match, so please follow the instructions carefully. I'll be sending reminders in game.First thing, we're an odd number, so I'll declare myself Master of the Pit and head straight there.Here's the process:>this turn, set your research to Construction 9, one 999999 mage to patrol, and send a few more around as scouts so you can see battles>I'll autohost 10 turns>another turn to set research goals>10 more turns autohost so all gods wake up and all research is done>3 turns prep>the fighting startsThe fighting procedure is simple. When I give the order, everyone advance one position to the right. I'm second from the top so ignore me: Bandar Log and Ulm go to the tree arena, Muspelheim and Agartha go to the Oasis arena, and so on.The following turn, whoever won each duel moves to the corresponding "rest room" right of the arena. Losers who survive MUST head straight to the Pit, without a rest turn.The following turn, everyone marches to the corresponding second arena. Two fighters to one arena, I think it's obvious where you're supposed to go. Again, anyone who loses but survives must go straight to the Pit.Anyone who loses but survives in the Pit must head immediately back to the Pit, without pauses.Then again one turn marching to the rest rooms, and one turn marching into the final arena. Once a champion has been declared, the last one standing in the Pit gets a chance to climb out and face the champion in the arena for a chance to steal the title.This effectively means that the winners will always be moving ahead, one step every turn. In order to swap out their items you will need to have scouts already waiting, and use the send gems/send items spells to airdrop things. And you probably want scouts so that you can see what your future opponents are doing.>REMINDER: READ THE RULES linked to the match page! It is forbidden to use Wish to increase pretender stats
>>574570426What is this dota map lel
>>574570547The whole thing will be like 8 turns, I ain't making a pretty map
>>574570647Based
>>574570426Hell yeah, Wesnoth.
>>574570426
>>574570426Forgot to mention:No one (other than the champion) gets to fight twice in the final arena. Hence why the three final resting spots don't lead to the pit: if you get knocked out of the final arena fight, you're out.>>574571753Best game. If only the multiplayer wasn't so cancerigenously slow to play
>>574570426>one 999999 mage to patrolWhy?
>>574573094In case Bogus shows up to siege your capital
>>574571871Pokemon Mod game when?just kidding I'm already in too many games
Why does the champion get tossed into a pit?
>>574573310The other way around anon, the champion stays in the arena and whoever wins the pit can go to the arena to challenge them.Only pretenders that lose duels go to the pit.
>>574570426You're not banning preaching explicitly and we all start with like 10 H9 priests, we're 1 province away from each-other, and you're going to force host 10 turns in a row. Any chance someone who doesn't preach gets domkilled in those 10 turns, especially if they're dormant? I'd rather be the victimizer than the victim so until there's a written judgement on that I'm leaving some of mine on preach.
>>574567702My queens…
Very fun and low micro commitment format game, I liked it. >>574564247This was quite lucky for me, I don't know if what I brought could have endured Ubar's saved up mass. I did fight C'tis, Agartha, Lanka and Kailasa after this offscreen but they had similar results to the last fight here. My general plan of "stay 4 points behind the leader then lunge ahead on the final battle" worked out great though.>>574568387I figured due to the low prov count and short game duration that hellblessed caponlies would do best here over trying to scale up, so I picked Vanheim and dumped everything to afford counter-blessing against anything I could think of from evos to darkness to ethereal to leprosy spam. I took a few good points, stealthed away from the arena each time to dodge Ubar's swarm of seducers and built up my big mages to stack a dozen battlewides for durability and chaff generation for the time my all-in wincon was here.
How do people actually play freespawn nations, aside from Asphodel which gets so busted it kind of plays itself? I used to think Ermor/Lemuria are super hard to fight, but whenever I try them in sp I have no idea how to make them even expand. And stuff like LA squids and Therodos are a complete mystery ( well in theory therodos is supposed to be thug/sc nation, but getting there seems difficult).
>half of the map in the vanilla MA game is waterMay as well just say that R'lyeh won this one and start next
>>574574834Therodos is actually easy to expand with, as long as theres no indies with magic weapons (very rare)You just collect everything that spawns every 2 turns and throw them out. Ethereal units stomp most indies as long as they aren't horrifically outnumbered.Therodos's problem is that opposing water nations can and will kill them in the crib with superior water income/mages and knowledge ahead of time to take magic weapons bless
>>574574402>the 999999 mages can be used ONLY as scouts, to craft items, and to heal your pretender from wounds (should you get the chance)Meaning anything not listed is not a valid use, including preaching.If you cast wolven winter in some province to tweak the scales in your favor, no one's gonna notice you did. But if there's suddenly 30 of your candles all over the place and you domkill one or two other players, that's gonna stand out.
>>574564247>I did so bad nobody even realized I was there
>>574575429*Pat pat* its okay anon, you won my heart
>>574576098I will now proceed to join the MA Arena game and do even worse, because I'm going to bring an absolute joke in.
>>574576276Do your best!
>>574577214I'm gonna be doing something all right. I'm sure what I am doing is a bad idea, but I'm going to do it anyway because I find it funny.
>>574578139good luck in whatever plans you are cooking, i believe in you
>>574574402>>574575320oh no haha imagine if someone put all his debug mages on one of the arenas after the first round is done and set them to preach haha
you cant just preach a god away, thats not how this works!
>>574570426Are we allowed to summon mode debug Sensei on turn 10? If you want us to send them to scout the battles, we cannot forge the gear.
>>574579486>implying I'm not autistic enough to check for bullshittery>>574580087Eh, as long as you don't do anything with it that breaks the spirit of the game.You don't need to send that many ahead, a couple on turn 20something will do. You just need one dude by each duel to see your future opponents, assuming you win your first duel, and another one one accompanying the pretender once you go out.Can also recruit some scouts. You've got 20 turns to mass produce them.
>>574580745>check for bullshitteryHow are you gonna do that if I pray the gay ( (You) ) away first?
>>574580983Anon, he has the admin password and he can roll turns back
>>574580745Turn 10 is exclusively for picking extra research? No Artifact Sniping (or crafting in general) allowed?
>>574579774Watch me
>>574581439Keep me posted
>>574565808You took to long to host the followup and now I’m in like 4 other games, 2 still waiting to start. I cant be bothered with the arena right now, see how I feel in two more weeks
>>574584394Yeah what idiot would take so many games at once?
>>574584394>>574584986These are the people staling in your games
By the way, wait a couple of weeks for vanilla_vanilLA.
>>574584986Based
>>574585471Sorry to burst your bubble but i am usually one of the first ones to do their turn, i respect people's time unlike other undesirables
I know the secret formula to winning games on domg.Post your best domg related image and I may reveal the sauce
>>574581325To be honest, I kinda threw this one together and didn't give it that much thought. I don't really see a reason why not to, I just didn't think of it.It's also something that I can't watch for without entering into each profile and it's neither direct aggression nor does it stop duels from happening or directly weaken someone or stop them from fighting their matches in fair conditions, so at worst it falls in the "cheating is allowed, getting caught isn't" category.>>574584986>mfwGot a lot of travel for work right now. Dominions and roguelikes are about the only thing that play in my little personal travel laptop.A nice little bit of home while away, while watching some bullshit in picture-in-picture mode.Usually I stick to 3 plus an upcoming one, though.>>574585471I'm pretty sure the stallers are just a few weakwilled bastards. People with lots of games probably love the game and check regularly to avoid all the turns from accumulating at once.
>>574584986I've never hosted more than one game at once but at my peak I was in 13 games at the same time. I went to bed one night and couldn't sleep only falling into a twilight state, kept hallucinating that I was either playing Dominions or that I was actually in the game, then I'd jolt awake drenched in sweat with my heart pounding. Kept happening all night. It was actually really unpleasant because I didn't have the clarity of mind to just wake up properly and get out of the fucking bed so I just lay there suffering.Had to go AI in some of them the day after and stop putting so much time into turns for the remaining ones since it was directly affecting my health.
>>574586745>>574586430>>574585670Again the only reason i am taking so many games is because i dont plan on surviving long on them.>Modmadness:ToxandriaPretty sure i am dead in less than 5 turns>MARginalized_gods:JotunheimI have three thrones, what is fuck is everyone else doing?>Duel arena:MuspelheimShould be short, no stress>Vanilla_Machiatto:JotunheimYOLO, strategy is still unga bunga>Arena_MA:NidavangrStill not up
>>574586745I only join 1 game at a time, maybe joining a new one if my current one is wrapping up.Lets me be very meticulous with my turns, giving me lots of time to find new angles, or fine tuning my research priorities, squeeze in more site searching, thinking about the broader gamestate. When I used to join many games I'd just play each one either like an aggressive retard or as a do nothing pussy because of the weight of too many turns to do
>>574587336>I have three thrones, what is fuck is everyone else doing?i /was/ researchmaxxing to get forge of the ancients out and be the friendly neighborhood salesman until someone decided to attack me.........
>>574587550Your provinces blocked my way, what exactly did you wanted me to do? plus, i am giving you plenty of free undefended provinces clear of indiesHowever, try taking the thrones and i will bite back
>>574587807Mold in lava
>>574591495I dont know what this spell does, sorry.
>>574591495What do you mean? Do you wish to have mold in the lava, or mean that the mold is in the lava whether I want it or not; or that you feel like a mold in lava; or that it is lava to mold in?
>>574587336I assure you, Toxandria, unless you get coalitioned, everyone is too busy dying to PD or the rush nations, to really focus you. Don’t underestimate your red caps and get some vine ogres to tank and you should be ok. For the Divinitus game, Shinuyama lost their god, which is very bad because their god was an expander, Atlantis is beefing with Ubar and Phaeacia is getting dom killed and sieged by Atlantis after failing to expand into Ubar and Jotunhiem territory.
>>574595090Ah damn autocorrect molon labe
>>574595480>ToxandriaNah, i messed up from turn one and memed with the honeybadgers knowing i wasnt going to get very far, had fun harassing the cute harpies though>Divinitus JotunhiemYeah i am just making a beeline for every throne unless my pretender dies, my scales are fucked, so if he dies the game is over for me
>>574596745Do the badgers do anything special
>>574596805they are cute as heck and thats all i need
>>574564247It was a fun game, congrats to Van. The concept of it being one big moshpit made me think about what nation to pick, but I choose Ur for two reason. First, I already had experience playing them in a MP game, secondly, they have foreign recruit, which I thought would work well in a game where you have limited expansion. I choose a more mage focused bless, as the Chosen aren't that good, and the Mushussu have limited requirement and need to be used carefully, and the rest are summons. I never got to use the Ur mage summons, which as a bummer, but oh well. I got great use out of the Anzus as some battles attest. They can fly and have multiple attacks, which includes two breath attacks, which makes them scary. What went wrong? I had a few hiccups when expanding, thanks to a province having mage backup that needed to be worn down. My troops are also in a awkward middle ground between human sized units and giants. They have great strength and HP, but not as much as giants, and their average attack + defense comes up when fighting human sized guys, especially if they're better stat wise, like elves or Abyssinians. Not having good leaders sucked, as it made it harder to mass armies.What went well? Foreign recruit. Enikdu archers are strong, a horde of them can really mess up an enemy, especially when buffed. Th issue is gathering them all up from your provinces. Enikdu Shaman are amazing, and are the. With having limited expansion, I thought having foreign mages would turn out great, which it did. It took a while for them to come in on their own, but being able to print out high level E and N mages really helped. Foul Vapors won me plenty of battles, and the big E and N spells were winners as well. I should have focused on Shamans from the start.
>>57458674513 games at a time.. 3-5 is the gold spot if you ask me.
>>574600315>What went well? Foreign recruit. Enikdu archers are strong, a horde of them can really mess up an enemy, especially when buffed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82ndOHZfkys
>No building>Can't control your own army>Biggest challenge is navigating the archaic uiDomkiddies really think they're playing a strategy game.
>>574600725It's a funny video, but if your opponent isn't ready to to counter them they can really do some damage with how hard they fire their arrows. Which was part of the fun of the Arena, your opponent(s) wasn't sure who they'd fight, so they couldn't really counter you. You also have access to the A and N buffs for arrows, so you can go in on them if you can.
>>574601082>Archaic UIDo zoomers really. . .?
>>574584986>>574586430Lol.. you bastards. Im in
>>574602091Good luck horny man
>>574601082We had taxes and road building and everyone agreed they were just cancer no one liked
>>574601082I thought this at first before playing Dominions, but there's so many quirks, and the complication of using diplomacy makes it a lot more interesting then it seems on the surface
>>574601082This is a wargame son
honest humble humans vs evil bad monsters i dont like to post battles to brag or whatever but 2 god kills in the same turn is pretty sweet and i have never actually done it before
>>574607345BASED ULM SISTER
>putting the spoiler for the arena battle results as the MOTD so you get spoiled even if you avoid the threadthanks
>>574607345BASED
also elves are gay holy shit who tf thought 30 defense was fair
Sex with elves
>>574610080*Underwater elves
>>574607345>2 wight sorcerers to support over 6k gold of dai bakemono/domg/ger, your line of Uba buffers?
What do you guys usually do when one of your neighbors starts having a schizophrenic episode and decides they'd rather play to make you lose than win the game?
>>574612481Murder
>>574612481marry our pretenders
>>574612820Anon. . .
>>574601082Hey buddy I think you got the weong door, the fortnite clubs two doors down
>>574607345Honestly bragging about god kills as Ulm is a little underwhelming since the black priests smiths can do damage vs nearly anything. Whats your TENDIE build?
>>574612481Id force Ulm to finish his turn then prepare to eat gravel for my transgressions, Mekone
>>574612481That's the average uw player tho
>>574607345What the fuck is Shinuyama doing?No Ubas? Only 2 sorcerers? He could've 100% buffed the archers to be super soldiers that would've made Ulm lose the fight after massacring the goblins.
How do you counter blood vengeance ethereal units without suiciding your mages?
>>574610864>>574616565they would have mostly died to earthquakes anyway
>>574617569Shapeshift them scrub
>>574617569Every one of them can cast Stygian Skin and shrug off most of that 8 AP. Add on Liquid Body or Temper Flesh if you want more insurance. Even a few edge case losses are worth having the force multipliers there to win the battle.
>>574618840Holy I didn't think of that!
>>574618216>>574618840no i mean i agree that army had absolutely no business being there unsupported with only 1 retreat province that had no PD in it while the player is walking stealthy raiding stacks over my fort patrols i just don't know how much it would have helped to have ubas there instead of a larger mage like more wights/tengumaybe stygian actually does do enough? i would have done it regardless of the uba count but not if there was a bunch of big spooky sorcerers and tengu/kitsune
I fucking hate Glamour.
>>574567702guess its not surprising machakans have so little artshame tho
>>574617569A sorcerer with ironskin has 26 hp, 20 prot, and 11 defearthquake is a 3d6 vs defense check followed by normal 8 AP DRN8 damage vs 10 prot means they can survive several earthquakes~50% chance to get hit~30% chance to actually get damagedper earthquakeYou need quite a bit of earthquakes to wipe out the sorcerersAnd the sorcerers WILL have iron skin, since earthquake has a 200% casting speed and ironskin has 100%And at that point, you've wiped out your own dudes doing so in an army clashThe Ubas 100% wouldve gotten wrecked tho lol
>>574626226Cute!!
>>574616565Pls no bully Japanese goburin
>>574626226slutchaka
>lost my starting army on the first province without taking itAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>574634840Exceptionally cool.
>>574634840Source?
Gnight domg do not let darkness take you while I slumber!
greetings, newfag here, I started playing on June 7th after getting a steam recommendation (i play a lotta strategy). What nations do you all play? I personally like MA Marignon, MA Eriu, EA Marverni (i suck at them), EA Helheim, LA Jomon and LA Feminie.unrelated but here's this battle I had
>>574575102Man, I feel bad because well done on hosting games or whatever, but stuff like this makes it so so so hard to justify playing over weeks.Just learn dreamatlas or mapnuke, the default map gen is NOT worth playing.
>>574642159Well, crEAm map was okay in water department, not sure why MAcchiato decided it needs a fuckload of water. Maybe it counted pseudo-amphibian nations like Agartha and Ermor.Next time, for vanilLA, I'll generate a map myself, pruning bad starts and using correct amounts of water.
>>574635012I lost mine too but still somehow took the prov through indie routingGrim start
>>574641895My top 3 3: MA Shinuyama2: MA Xibalba1: LA PythiumHonorable mentions to Ea Therodos and MA Ctis.I like poison and skeletons
>>574641895For me?#1 MA Ermor#2 LA Bogarus#3 MA IndSpecial mention to LA Andro but I still want a bloog gog bitch nation, even if LA has too many blood nats already
A T T E N T I O NUbar has breached containment and is winningUBAR HAS BREACHED CONTAINMENT AND IS WINNING
>>574650187Alright, now I see what everyone was complaining about, end game unit at turn 13-16, 4 of em.. lol perfectly balanced. Well, go for it
>>574652732Lol the only route now is mages. Magic weapons and Spirit Sight blesses indeed. And True sight?
>>574650187>how it feels to fight Ubar without spirit sight/true sight and magic weaponshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=1BgPBvxpzaw&ra
>>574626226Sex
>>574652732I fuckin told you anonBut no one wants to admit it>Ubar isnt so bad everyone just gangs up on themUbar, Ermor, and LA Ctis needs to be nerfed so god damn hardYes, Nerf LA Ctis again
>>574650187Lel
>>574656724Ermor legit sucks ass. Asphodel is the new popkill king
>>574626226Built for breeding
>>574656724I just think it fucking sucks that now I have to watch my entire realm get raped just because I was thinking on a pure strategic level, which for any other faction works fine, but here even shit like ‘iron vulnerability’ and ‘salt vulnerability’ is like a meme gimmick, it dont mean shit, theres like 40 invisible high power size 3 units that are basically the best recruitable unit in EA and possibly the game, they’re cheap as fuck and you can recruit multiple a turn ONE YEAR into the game. And to think, the only way to counter it without mages is literally a specific, expensive bless which blows chunks against nearly any other faction or neutral. And mekone is gonna get blasted now too because they only have ONE of the requirements of the dualfecta (magic weapons) so.. it’s basically just buying for time. And that salty faggot Atlantis is gonna come out the sea as well lol well, I guess I’ll just wait for it to end then, with Ulm drawing out every fucking turn for an extra 10 hours that should be an absolute delight
fuck, all this whining and moaning about game 'balance' makes me throb
>>574658091Hahaa youd be crying on the other side of your jail cell if someone picked the specific bless everyone already knows about
>>574657602Ulm will be set AI today.
>>574658476I mean is he actually playing or is it like my own personal qualms? He’s staling or playing?
>>574658957
>>574659609Oh it's a drunken Pekka on summer holiday.
>>574659609The bastard. Good riddance, the suspense of being about to be fucked by a fucking chicken and a watery turd is killing me
>>574657602Gotta hit the djinn with ranged weapons to pop the glamour bullshit
2hu mod one day....
>>574660262AnonUbar has air magicUbar also have massive fire resistArrows doesn't do shit against Ubar
>>574657602>he didn't buy saltIt's not too late to beg for forgiveness Mr Chong
>>574660262They’re all flying units.. The only unit I can consider that would do the job with minimal research by year 1 is Black priests smiths and they’re the wrong era.
>>574663606I dont beg. Come take my capital if your faction makes the game so easy
>>574641895I've played a bit of almost everyone but MA Agartha was my first love, back in the Dom4 days.
>>574656724LA C'tis is perfectly reasonable now desu>>574660262Ranged weapons don't actually pop mirror images now that they don't disappear when the real one gets hit, though the images still don't protect against arrows
>>574656724Ermor hasn't been good in a long time, anon
>>574666582Invisibility is popped by damage I think
https://hinaserver.net/game/76Cam on Domg! Cam get yer wacky nation!
>>574667007Oh yeah, the invis is, glamor isn't.
>>574657602Atlantis is arguably the best counter to the genies, short of Dai-Oni gigachads. High attack density magic weapons at affordable prices, fire resist, and acid evocations for reliably popping invisibility regardless of resist buffs.Salt vulnerability really is a meme though, there should probably be some earth and/or water spells that count as salt attacks.
Is there a magic equivalent to MA Ulm? as in, instead of blacksmiths with little magic and guys in heavy armor its earth wizards crafting increasingly bigger golems/animated constructs with big ass summons
>>574667880Agartha
>>574667880MA Agartha.
>>574667959>>574667970Alright i will check them out, thank you
>>574667880MA and LA Agartha. Former is golems, latter is undead engineering
>>574668241Interesting, i am going to assume EA version doesnt follow a similar theme? if not it would had been a perfect nation to "main" in all three ages
>>574668706EA is more about elementals, I guess.
>>574666582>>574667007>>574667204Me when I spread false information
>>574668962The jinn fears the stone...
>>574668706EA is big dumb mole people who pressed the billions must die button and died out as a consequenceMA is the mole survivors making golems in their ancestors' likeness to cope about their mistakeLA is humans discovering the underground ruins of the big dumb mole people and trying to revive them
>>574669305>who pressed the billions must die button and died out as a consequenceB-based. . .
>>574668962Man slingers suck nuts, but those moments when they are good, feels so good.
>>574650187>>574657602Mekone could mop the floor with them if he >brought an equivalent or more gold value in hoplites to this fight (he brought maybe half that)>brought a decent cadre of Ephors (6+) to blast point blank magma bolts into the geniesas is, he was seriously outfielded and could have lost this bad to many nations. If this is all Ubar had in the cap then Mekone can replenish and outscale Ubar by the next fight.The only seriously untolerable thing about Ubar are the Shaytan because they ramp Ubar's mage count and path diversity while taking your own at once.
>>574641895EA Xibalba. The first nation, and the only one I enjoy playing.
>>574671679Tbh, I knew enough to know that I needed to stop recruitment from the only Fort ASAP, but now its over. Mekone is too busy lying to me about how thinly spread he isnt lol embarrassing well I guess we see how it goes now
>>574671679Wait, magma bolts? The jinn have 50+ fire restrictions
>>574667668Well, I guess its my fault for playing as cookie cutter chinese filler, I wish I was playing my Rus build now but I considered it too aggressive and wanted a more fun, easy going game. Lesson learned, the world is far too small for the number of players
>>574673005they deal bludgeon, not fireuseless against high prot dudes with shields, but will handle lighter dudes just fine
>>574673178Hes gone temper armor path. Hehe
>>574673163*pat pat*
>>574673664Thanks babe
>>574673696
vanilla_crEAm Ulm is now AI.
So, shouldn't the pankoman_arena game be archived now that its already 'finished'?
I was THIS years old when I learned that you can go from fort to fort using arrow keys...
>>574673163My condolences, anon. Though your chariots should do good work at popping invisibility too, the EA TC/Ubar matchup is pretty rough if you don't have time to get your summons online first.
>>574667880Agartha silly although in practice, Arco is best for summon spam
>>574668706All three nations live and die on their mage lineup and have a whole bunch of excellent national summons, though EA has sacred Olms recruitable in the cap and every drip cave who are incredible mind blaster artillery and thus are less reliant on summons than the others, and LA actually has pretty solid troops with Cave Knights being arguably the best expanders in the era.
>>574668962Wait, mirror images can catch ranged attacks now? What the fuck
>>574675453More of Illfraud's disgusting elfophilia on full display
>>574641895I'm ALL about those hundreds of bare chested.And also suck at them.
>>574675562To be fair, almost all the mounted elves became far more weak to ranged attacks in 6, with their naked horses.Elves still gonna elve though
Those are some cute feet
What is the most under rated nation?I think it might be Ma Eriu or Ma Xibalba
>>574678381therodos
>>574678381In power? popularity? fanart?
>>574675032Hmm..? Curious idea.. Appreciated
>>574678381Eriu's pretty bad, my man.>>574679240The chariots are one of EA TC's biggest strengths early-game, they make them one of the best expanders in the era. Great armor on the rider and the horse, and good damage on the falchion means they still do well against things too big or well-armored to trample to death, and should probably be the core of your army until you've got Demons of the Heavenly Rivers ready to fuck shit up. Barring specific circumstances, granted, you'll have better luck with the glaive infantry versus well-armored giants.
>>574626226Me with the bag of gold
>>574678381Eriu and ma xibalba are charming in how bad they are. This means some people will play them just because they suck. The most underrated nation has got to be ma bandar log. They are a monkey nation in ma with limited recruitable magic access but a bajilion summons that require building on your pretender. But that gives them some interesting things to do
>>574680227>Eriu's pretty bad, my man.Compared to TNN? Yeah. I think people are still sleeping on glamor magic though. They get natural access to Wailing Winds now for example, and they have the perfect paths for fae troops spam which are undeniably good. Their small mages are annoyingly inconsistent though but sidhe lords are just good for multiple purposes.Not saying Eriu is top tier or anything, but I think people still have lingering memories of pre glamor eriu
>>574678381100% ea Sauromatia, cool enchanted tattoos, hydras and high death/blood
>>574680804The mages are quite good but actually making it to the lategame where you can abuse them is rough. The troop lineup is simply miserable and Sidhe aren't really enough to carry it.
>>574681279I think you go a monster with good order scales and some utility bless for the sacreds and lean on firbolg troops, or you get a fat incarnate bless with 7+ candles and sack the scales on an immobile, expand big and try to diplomacy into a favorable first war. Expanding is actually pretty easy with both of those options (because you don't need to use the sub indie human troops)If you start next to a hellbless Ashdod or something though it's gonna be fuckin rough for sure.
>>574681738>lean on firbolg troopsThe 15 gold guys with t-shirts and no helmets?
>>574682085Cattle raiders are good they hit crazy hard. The javelin guys help thicken your dhoine sidhe expansion parties well. Even with low bless youd use dhoine sidhe for expanding primarily. And youd have a monster in this scenarioSlingers are bad, if you need slingers you have a cheaper one. Axe guys are ok all rounders.But they can all stealth and take buffs well and fight well enough into most pd from your also stealthy mages too. Gotta play like an elf. \The milesian man at arms is ok too, hard to mass with sloth though which you will probably take since your best troop to dump resources into is a literally worse indie heavy infantry.Again, far from top tier nation. Definitely playable with finesse. Nowhere near as bad as they were in dom 5
>>574682805in sloops eriu is fine desu. in vanilla tho yeah they are quite finicky to make work, especially in dom6 since they can't lean on sidhe lords being 1 man armies so much anymore
What are some NEVER EVER national summons? Like good shit you never see?
>>574678381vanarus is never really talked about but can be extremely powerful. they just require lots of game knowledge and micromanagement because they have such low, wide path access with their forest recruits.
>>574685098Pretty much any level 9 summon.For me it's the unique sauromatia/pythium immortal hydra though. Conj 8 is a massive research detour for it with those nations which really want to beeline down ench/alt, and even if you gift of reason it it's not much more impressive than any other recruitable hydra
>>574685098Caelum Daeva / Amesha line becaus ethey don't have the paths for itKailasa / Bandar log gigachad high conj summons because they don't have the paths for the blood ones and more simply because those nations rarely live long enough to get high in conj
>>574685098jotun draug. 70 hp each with chill and fear aura, and a 32 dmg attack once they transform into their size 8 version. such a nice summon but expensive and you don't get many so they're hard to mass.
>>574685098I've never seen any of these in an mp game. Const 8 is so rare to get
Isnt ulm iron angel also conj 8? for a unit with so much fanart in the booru you would think it would be more spamableDoes MA ulm even like anything in the conj list?
>>574686036poison golem reapers everything including your army and it isn't strong enough to solo (because you sure as shit aren't bringing it with your army)iron dragons used to be good when divine name gave them fire iirc, so they could at least pyresiege golems are just a riskier gate cleaversucks that const8 is almost entirely garbage, makes deciding to got for const9 artifacts much heavier in cost
>>574685098telkhines
>>574686450Pretty common to take high earth on your ulm tendy for the earth globals, which means you could summon the Earth Kings too at least. Earth attack is a decent remote assasination spell too
>>574685098Cu Sidhe sadly
>>574686815If you have true sight bless they are very good specialty patrollers.That's at least something
>>574686815I'm watching someone use them extensively in a current game since they have a strong blessSadly despite all the resistances, they still have meagre protection so they're getting absolutely shredded by Shinuyama's bow dai bake
>>574686815Hear me out, we take the unbearable splendor or blood vengeance bless and spam em for chaff.The little bastards move too fast for their own good though. They charge ahead of anything else you have and then die
LANKA, it's fucking turn 1 and it's been almost 30 hours, what's taking so long.I'm setting you to research myself, the show must go on
Was almost done with my turn as EA Xibalba in PANKOMANS_DUEL_ARENA and the turn rolled before I got my items in, now I have a pretender with 0 items. Is this normal, am I cooked?
>>574690381Someone should set themselves unfinished since everyone is stalling, so whoever submits a turn causes the wheel to turn
Surely Arenamin is going to roll back the turns, since otherwise certain people will have crafted more artifacts than others can in the three turns prep time we were supposed to have.
>>574690381Did you read the rules at all? You're not supposed to do anything but set your shit to researcher and one to patrol, admin will now forcehost 10 turns then you can make your items.
>>574690956>forcehost 10 turnsThen why are we on turn 53?
>>574690956No need to be rude, FATTY
Uh, surely nobody slipped a sealed pretender in with those 50 turns of forcehost
UPDATE: the game is ready to go. See the in-game message for instructions.tldr the debug mod works differently than the version I tested with so I just sped ahead with the turns so that everything is researched already. No need to wait for a second research round.The three turns preparation time begin now. Get to crafting.>>574690628I force hosted it as fast as I could and barely did anything else other than send some mages to clear up the arena to remove indies and write a message. Any bastard fast enough to get a turn in deserves whatever they produced.Looks like Phlegra and Xibalba got one each. The others it was me (Fomoria) briefly testing that the research thing has worked properly. Turns out the UI shows level 9 spells as not researched, but they ARE available in the scripting screen.
>turn is 54, not 10, and keeps climbing>I keep seeing retards submit turns in the middle of the forcehost cycle>some dickhead probably crafted the good artifacts already>>574691702And this, too. I believe it is time to panic and go AI.
>>574691724>Any bastard fast enough to get a turn in deserves whatever they produced.Retard
>>574691702I don't think that's to be expected. It was supposed to be only 20, so that'd have been instant disqualification.>>574691874The server doesn't have an option to forcehost x turns in a row without letting turns in. Would be a nice tool to have, though
>>574691724>>574692117They sniped two artifacts, completely breaking the rules. If I cast wish to buff my pretender I'd get banned, but they won't for sniping the good artifacts?
>>574691813
4channers are the only ones smart enough to cheat when they know they'll get away with it and i respect it
>>574692225I certainly was not trying to cheat, I just thought we were in the phase. WOuld probably have let it be but I saw Phlegra put in a turn, they were probably just as confused. THrowing your hands up because something didn't go quite right on an experimental game is pretty weak besides
i am cooking something NASTY with my wolf, just watch
>>574692225Wait, I'm fucking retarded. I KNOW who the players were who sneaked in a turn, fucking Xibalba and Phlegra.That breaks the most basic rule of the arena: cheating is allowed, getting caught isn't.However, both did that right after I entered a turn to test stuff, so it's also reasonable to believe that they might have simply thought that the game was ready to go, and they simply tried to be faster in case it makes a difference on who gets a particular item.I'll reset the game and give it another go. Anyone sneaking in a turn this time is flying out, though
Perhaps not every player in this iteration of this setup is intimately familiar with how it is going to go and you shouldn't screech cheater cheater like a total fucking faggot
>>574692785faggot outing me.
Oh wait more turns are passing, i was about to swap what to craft wtf
>>574693075THey already outed you earlier in the thread man haha I'm no snitch>>574691724>Looks like Phlegra and Xibalba got one each
>>574692942I think a reset is the most logical step, and adjust the rules about the turns because as you noticed you're not forcehosting 10 turns. Make it based on your announcement not a set number of turns. In fact I think everything should be declared that way, ideally posted here, on the server page, and a ingame message.I don't think they did it maliciously but a reset costs nothing since we don't even have cap circles to roll the dice on. Anyone who does it again though, ban their ass.
I think the game was reset? i dont see any of my crafted stuff
>>574692764>get away with it>when two artifacts are taken>and you can only craft 1 per turn>and there's a public record a click away telling you exactly which two players managed to sneak in a turnTruly brilliant.
I only have 3 slots, so 3 turns of preparation and i will be at peak power
It is done. Now we're ready to go.Long story short, all research is now unlocked, so no need for a second research phase.There's now three turns to craft stuff. I heavily recommend moving one mage SCOUTING to the following arenas, so that you can see stuff.Since I'm the host, I'll be moving straight to the Pit and play goalie. I'll also be casting eyes of god so that I can keep an eye on matches and obvious rule breaks and generally organize stuff.Main reminders:>no casting Wish to increase pretender stats>all equipment is allowed>all battle spells are allowed>rituals are generally not allowed. Sure go ahead if you have some interesting idea, as long as it doesn't directly harm an opponent or somehow stop them from fighting their duel in fair conditions. Anything that interferes with the arena more directly than messing with temperature scales is likely to get you the hammer>don't preach, don't patrol outside your capital>you can use teleporting spells to keep your pretenders stocked, but send a couple scouting dudes to make sure you've got item slots to swap shit around>if you're going to be a smartass about the rules, read them properly. Notice the "ONLY" in the use case of the 999999 magesI'll be giving clear warning when it's time to move on.To be very specific: you get to equip up to 3 artifacts before the first battle. So craft this turn (50), next (51), next (52), and THEN (53) it'll be time to march away into the first battles, the result of which will be read in turn 54.
>>574693583At least two people in the game thought they were clever for pointing that out, at least the WolfPak is cool.>Inside of you is one Wolf pretender>It is not gay
>>574650187>>574671679>>574672880Only a greentext can express how I feel right now.
>>574694642The wolves are extremely gay and are FUCKING
>>574695124This is how you become a veteran, you learn some lessons at a hard price. Now you will know better and also have something to stack some new concepts on top of
>>574607345I probably should have kept my Tyrants that were onsite there, but they were empowered to A2 and weren't twiceborn so I didn't want to risk them. In the end this will cost me 700ish RP as I made 20 trophimos priests, probably some path I don't care about, and the gem cost of the gear. The last concern is real, and lack of gear has had me swap into elder cyclops.Fighting into Ulm with this build before I got phoenix pyre was a complete lark, but I'm in too many (3) games anyways so I hope you'll at least make these turns simpler by killing my stuff. The lack of RP is a real killer though.
>>574560884Without dark vision or spirit sight you dont. Even abysia struggles to expand down there sometimes and they do have it.
>>574700675Huh, thanks for the tip
We have no hope and yet we live in longing
>>574704849Said the pantocrator
SIX HUNDRED?
>>574695124>be me, a beautiful lion>enjoying life walking around killing manlets (my favorite hobby) and collecting chairs (my second favorite hobby)>encounter some floating see-through genielets having passionate gay sex with these strange demonic monkeys>not one to kink shame, I leave them to it, instructing one of my manlet slaves to build a house for this giant chair I found>a few months later>"your chair is mine bitch! hahahahaha!">the genielets would rather have my chair than more sex>respectable, but that's still my chair>go over there and kill them and this weird giant stork calling itself a chicken for some reason>"fine, you can have that chair back! I didn't want it anyways!">guess that's that, back to collecting chairs>next month>for some reason the genielets are still here, and now they're playing hide and sex with my slaves>don't really care since it's just slaves, but it's kind of rude that they're running around like they own the place>grab 3 of my bros and some of their bros, tall, muscular, chiseled individuals of perfect character, and tell them to march over to where the genielets live and complain to whoever's in charge>(wouldn't it be funny if that's all it took to cripple ubar)
>>574707447>a few months later>bros encounter the chinese along the way to the genielet capital>accidentally kill a bunch of them because they weren't looking at where they were going>me, a nice lion, invite them to complain with me since I heard them arguing with the genielets too earlier>*rubbing hands together ingratiatingly* "ohohoho, why yes of course! we the chinese would love to! a shame about those soldiers we lost, but we shall call it good training for your men, eh? hohohoho!">enter genielet lands, surprised at how small the place is>a few months later, my bros are just marching along, unstoppable, feeling good, getting swole on copious amounts of stork protein, genielets have like two territories left now>a message comes from the chinese>"milord, we the chinese shall open the gates for you! leave their formidable pd to us and enter ubar afterwards!">uh okay, thanks>do just that>next month>a global message comes from the genielets>"mekone has thrown everything they have at us! they have overextended!">uh no this was just like 3 months of-->"mekone is weak! our spies see everything! they are exposed!">whatever dude>tell the chinese they can have most of the old genielet territories they took except for one juicy mountain nearby>they didn't really do anything, but it turns out they were surprisingly small and might get antsy having a much bigger neighbor, they're not scary to us so we don't mind sharing>hmm, but these fellas seem like pretty big scaredy cats, they'd probably get antsy if we started building houses right next to theirs too>propose revolutionary new diplomatic treaty: zoning laws
>>574707652>2 months later>my 3 bros and their bros on the capital die, everywhelmed by birds and genielets and some actual genies and fireballs>oh well>guess I'll bring more now>a message comes from the chinese>turns out the chinese really hate zoning laws>turns out the chinese marched all their armies to our borders>"ohoho... we see you have thrown everything at the enemy and have overextended...">uh no this was just like 3 months of-->"we see you are not managing well the territories we have given you...">uh no you never gave us those and who cares about clearing random events during a war anyw-->"you have underestimated us the chinese! we will have ubar, we might have let you start sieging it a few turns ago, but that was when we were weak! now we are strong and mekone is weak!">but most of your guys are on my border and nowhere near ubar?>"and for your arrogance, we will have some of your territories as well! uh i mean our territories, because we gave them to you!">...>man the chinese are just the worst!>consider killing them and their silly armies of generic manlet archers and heavy infantry they think are supposed to intimidate us>decide it'll be really funny to watch ubar come back from one province and kill tien chi>one month later>the chinese get army wiped on turn 0 of their new war
>>574707979>>574707652>>574707447I cried a little, majestic
>>574707447>>574707652>>574707979Hilarious!!!
the tendies have fallen
>>574712783Yumi attacks me even though I went out of my way to ally with them, then I stomp them out and start taking over their lands, and then their turns start getting delayed..Maybe you should have teamed up with me from the start!! Instead you are DYING!!
I gave you compensation for taking your wimpy provinces MArginalized Ulm, your welcome
>>574712783We're not tarts yet
Society is founded on falsehoods; humanity has always built upon fictitious hopes and ideals. Thus, to understand the true nature of our being, one must study the lies—and rule them out by process of elimination.
>>574707979Ngl theres some nuggets of truth here and there with some slices of fabrication and imagination. First off, THERE ARE barbarians in the lands you sequestered when you asked me if you could have them and just marched through (I did say it was practice tho lmao! Good use of paraphrasing there.) and THEN the barbarians came when you were in Ubar. Not to mention my forces at ubar were 200 strong, and the one at your borders (attacking a stack of indies your gay ass ignored btw) but then figured, what the fuck, im next to Atlantis who is angry at me, Ur who i did a deal with for some land but who is obviously new so I wanna let them live laugh love and then Ubar who you had beef with for being raided across the river. Anyywaaayy yes. I did want more lands, it made sense for me to expand what with the shit I have. Anyway, as the least faggotish and most capable of my neighbours I still offer you a truce of sorts even if you’re a grug smash retard who tends to exxagerate and is also barbarian blind.
LION you greentexter fags are a little obnoxious, should me and Ubar start documenting the game to back up your fiction with reality or is making it more elaborate with exxageration and fairy tale more interesting?>>574650187
Oh and the army at your borders (which is now not, because understandably you’re more wrapped up in making up elaborate Lion-o fairy tales) was 100 strong, not as strong as the one which was decimated by Ubar in the above document (thanks for that by the way you fag!) and I thought, the whole game this guy is such a greedy bastard, and livin easy except for Ubar being such a douche, me being understanding felt it prudent to assist since Ubar is strooong. Anyway, I figure its now my time to eat the bullet so to speak but I have ancient Chinese bulshit up my sleeve to deal with the fucking gwei los. Anyway, if you come help me, I’ll boost your social credit score and make a few Pachinko games about you or some shit. But I’m far too autistic and mathematical to be dealing with your intricate jargon.
It speaks fucking volumes that a guy who can only speak in greentext or like a character out of a 1968 mythos thriller is my best neighbour vs a guy who just started playing, a bitter salty asshole who has no concept of personal space, and a maniacal fuck who’s playing the most powerful faction in the game and will now use it to enact his power fantasy of dabbing on the graves of anyone not foolish enough to get the correct fucking bless
sneed
>>574726591SPIT YOUR FAX MY GUY
>>574707652Also ngl, if you check the screenshots Ubar posted in previous threads, you can see Ubar never headed south of the river crossing, but I assume will now considering I assisted you assaulting his base (admittedly my plan was erstwise, and you indeed carried the brunt of the war, but nevertheless, your atrocious attention to detail and your frivolous capacity to ignore base facts renders you a foolish ally at best and an inconvenient pest at worst. So I took the initiative! Were my bless any good to counterubar we wouldnt even be having this conversation you greasy faggot!) so, in essence, you never ‘heard’ me and ubar having problems, you made that up. But me, being an analytic mind saw that Ubar being tagged exceptionally strong, the wise man might suggest the avenue of best result to crush that seed before it bears evil fruit. Anyway, we both fucked up, youll seethe about it and make up bullshit and I’ll do some last stand helms deep chink edition in my capital and if I die, I personally bequeath my lands to you, least worst of all my neighbours. Deal?
>>574725704>>574725884>>574726269>>574726591>4 posts over a greentext about a fantasy battle simulatorCool it bro. The lion makes funny posts. The chineser does not.
>>574727304Im startin to think Ubar had the right idea with all the screenshots.. this Lion and his fucking stories, cor blimey. I realise we’re having fun, but come on now
>>574727429This aint a popularity contest moron Im clearing up the facts. You’re a dolt more interested in making up bullshit than being honest. Still best neighbour btw. Jesus Christ
bro actually said cor blimey lmao tip tip cheerio my good chap top of the mornin and shit bro thinks hes the king of england or something lmao hows about some fish n chips mate footy footy football
>>574727653You okay bro? Dont have a melty :)
>>574727568Im not in that game lmao
bros made like 18 posts cause mekone did a funny greentext and is telling other people not to have a melty cor guv what a wanker
>>574727858Haaha am I wrong?Coooooor blimeeeeyyy
>>574727948it's 4:30 am in ingerland mate shouldnt you be havin a snooze instead of getting mad on 4chan it's almost time for brekky innit
>>574728029I dont live in that shithole.. but wanna derail some more? Go ahead im game.. Whats up? What you wanna discuss?
>>574728134lets discuss why you only brought 2 mages to try and kill ubar
>>574728187Yeaa.. bad move. Noob move. First time fighting Ubar, I was feeling him out. Hard style. Wrong, very wrong. First time MP as TC EA. Not much else to say, figured it would be wise to siege capital to prevent spawning of super units, but with my bless? I got cocky. So did the Lion but he aint gonna admit it. It’s early game, about turn 16, its too early to bring a cadre of mages anyway but I know that’s the only trick I still have up my sleeve frankly
>>574728471Come to mention it, also my 2nd MP EA and I wish very badly I was playing Rus instead since they’re a little more badass and less mage dependent than the Chinese in EA
>>574728674And has cute aryan women
>>574729095Yeaaa I like that too. And being a FUCKING CHUD I find it very appealing thematically too, you get access to some chad units who only cost a little extra.. and the skinshifters? With true sight, I reckon enough of them with some pure chud/chad meat shield could have done what I needed them too, with the right bless. Just miss having workhorse dependable shit like that
bluds having a moment
>>574729408… you trying to annoy me?
what does sun tzu say about coaxing t'ien chink players into a melty so they keep the general bumped
Update when
>>574732268Idk, it amuses me greatly whenever faggots show up.‘Wait by the river long enough, and your enemy will float down beside you’
Brooos having a brooo moment ahh blud ahhh brooo ahhhhh broo bro bro broo brooooYou sound like you shat whats left of your brain out with that fucking mountain dew milkshake boyIm enjoying the fight, I love it. You’re just giving me energy, give me your best shot, make it personal hahah
unc is actually malding
Retard.
bro thinks other people are regarded but he is probably a diddyblud grapist without the g (those who know) blud got an invite to epstein island
Regarded? You’re on the wrong website.. also you are trying to annoy me arent you? Aww such a cute kid.. lol what a R E T A R D
unc is probably 30 years old
You’re a funny kid, I’ll give you that much. Thanks for the laughs you cheeky cunt. Maybe the next game we can play together and youll show me how its done ;)
cor blimey guv almost missed tea time innit
That a no?
unc is asking to play with me i knew he was a diddyblud
>>574732516illwinter has left us in the lurch, but its SWEDISH SUMMER so maybe some scraps
>>574732516Whats there to update?
>>574734914crannog ys
>>574688454Oh shit, my bad. I submitted a tendie at like 3 in the morning and then memory holed I was actually in the game.>huh, sucks that the duel game isn't hitting the ground running>check the names>oh god that's me oh nooooooHave this hopelessly drunk elf as recompense
>lost second expansion party immediatelyIN THAT CASE...But, seriously, I practiced expansion with this build multiple times, why It stopped working in mp game? Whyyyyy?
Warms my shriveled little domg veteran heart to see a noob having a public freakout in the thread.
Gnight domg
https://hinaserver.net/game/7624 hours until Nationgen starts.Plenty of funny nations left. Map is still random, unless you have a recommendation
>>574750418if you default map gen I am going to go AI
>>574746850Who are you calling a noob? He's domg's top tier ANALytic(those who know) mind thinking on a pure strategic level!
>>574750418oh what's this? I've never used this before but i'd probably slot in
>>574706732Yeah that's a lv2 throne.You're lucky, it could have been deer or fire snakes.
>normies are shitting on this design>As a real fantasy themed electric football player I instantly identify it as a thug squad decked out in the armor of knights.Bravo Nolan.
>>574752849I used a program to create random nations using specific parameters and now you pick one and try to win
>>574756038ah ok, so are the ones shown off the initial link taken or the ones that arent taken yet? I'd just enter a password and hit watch?
>>574750718Are you still malding about my posts 10 hours later? You gonna start having issues again lil bro?>>574744573I was bored. Im bored now. That game feels tainted lol
This has been the funniest thread in a while. A real gobsmacker, if you will.
>>574759287Was pretty good. It all started with issues with the ego
>>574756505Its a little confusing if its your first time using Hinaserver, unironically get grok to help you its the quickest path. We really do live in a society
>>574750717Well whats the alternative, why not a suggestion? DreamAtlas?
>>574761528DreamAtlas probably since you can do custom nations in it.
>>574761563I’m in that game.Personally, I do find vanilla maps a little frustrating, in single player it’s manageable, but in multiplayer it’s heavily RNG about where you’ll end up. I’m in two minds about it, because I never got the chance to use DreamAtlas either
>>574756505What's on the site is taken. Connect with your game, anything without "human" on it is not taken. Then you can back out, make a tendie for a nation you want, then connect again and submit it
What makes a good custom map? What are some things to avoid when designing the province layout?
>>574764224Thrones in cap circles, lack of logical connections, dead ends, etc.
>>574764224The main things are.No excessive chokepoints/mountain ranges that cut neighbours off from eachotherNot too much water relative to amount of water players (9-12 is about standard for a solo water nation ocean).No thrones in cap circles and thrones are generally on the borders of where nations would meet.Standardized cap circle connections, so 1 guy doesn't get screwed with only 2 or something
>>574764304>>574764421Thanks. This is all good advice
vaettiheim we're waiting for youuuuuuuuuu
Do the vines/grips from items have a check when they're first applied to fail?I want to kit out a golem but don't have access to atk boosting items. Shouldn't be a problem though if 4 squares are guaranteed to be restrained though right?
>>574767480I'm not sure, but you can just give the golem a frost/fire brand
>>574767480try a shield that will passively kill shit instead like charcoal shield or scutata volturnus. and like the other poster said give it a brand cause aoe1 effects can't miss
EA ARCOSCEPHALE, GET THAT TURN IN. We'll be moving on in about 5 hours.After that we'll be doing normal 24 hour turns
>>574768701BASED, FUCK SLOW PLAYERS
>>574767586>>574767680Should just do that. Due to dumb luck have access to both Frost Brand and the Scutata.Wish A wasn't such a bitch to raise though, would love to also make the helmet that shits out lightning bolts but apparently A3 is an impossible feat to boost to.
I will become a better player by immersing myself in the LORE of the nations i like playing
>>574769183>poetryFAGGOT HAHAHA
>>5747642244-5 neighbouring provinces per capital, no retarded geographical impossibilities or illogical traversal areas, areas between nations substantial enough for at least 8-10 provinces each, North/South and East/West looping ensures the world is more killy and active, more dynamic, less static.
>>574769183>epic of gilgameshHeeb coded.. what next the fucking talmud?
>>574769493Good suggestion!
>>574769493Yes, the talmud and pic related and mandatory readings if you want to play Hinnom/Ashdod/Gath
>>574769183Dis nigga doesn't play chuds.
>>574770884I am open to book suggestions about the chuds
>>574769375So designing a map for 10 provinces per player is pretty standard? I wasnt sure if 15 provinces per player would be better
can someone upload the Touhou mod for D6 (the 1.20 version)? steam workshop refuses to work for some reason.
>>574771772If you play with the sweaters on discord their standard isCapital + 9 provinces you will always get + 3 contestable provinces between each neighbour.They play on a grid so there's always 4 neighbours unless they have a weird amount of players
Should I ever build heavy human infantry
>>574771425The Kalevala
>>574772338Oh and a couple of contestable provinces on the diagonals between players, usually where the thrones are
>>574772429Yeah. Some of them are really good, some are garbage thoughMilesian Heavy Infantry? Pretty shit, worse stats than an indie. At least gold cheap so they are ok in basic archersLa Pythium Comitatense? Amazing, high map move great stats, fair price.
>>574771425my twisted world by elliot rodger
>>574762976ok, i think I got it. I think I slotted in as Borvik?
>>574767480Vine shield and the earth grip boots have an MR check. Still should work great, though.
>>574768701Sorry, was asleep. All good now.
>>574769183you can absolutely read your way to a higher winrate, I only won my last game because of a dry text on the ptolemaic empire
>>574772436That is one long ass book, should keep me busy for a few days! thank you for the suggestion>>574775964That is the goal, good to know it works
What is the best water nation to play if I actually want to win?
>>574785362Atlantis
>>574785362MA R’lyeh
>>574785362EA Atlantis, MA R'lyeh.LA Atlantis too but they're technically a coastal nation.
>>574785362Lemuria
>>574785362Erytheia won an uncanny amount of times here. Not really sure why.
>>574789265the power of incest and schizophrenia
>>574790798You talking about schizophrenia in the water bowl against LA R'lyeh?
>>574791360Eurythia’s princesses and princes all have insane 10% from recruitment
WAKE UP PANKOMAN WAKE UP IT'S TIME TO HOST THE TURN FOR PANKOMAN'S DUEL ARENA
>>574792207Fingers crossed
>>574790798
I shall Dreamatlas, as was requested. I figured out Nationgen, I can figure out Mapgen
>>574792782If there are big provinces in the center of the map you should regen it with a different seed. In general just check it with the map editor before committing to it
>>574792207Ask and you shall receive!Good luck to everyone with your artifacts of choice.I got mine and my second goal hasn't been crafted, but>8 artifacts already exist>13 of us in the arenaLooks like 5 of you weren't creative enough!
>>574796729>moved debug senseis into the arena provincesOy vey goyim i-if you saw anything weird that was the chicken, not me!
>First time seeing unique items>oh hey let me craft a pair of these>only one per turn>okay no issue i will just craft another next tur->if someone crafts it first my order fizzles out and i cant get it anymore>wasted chance to craft an unique that turn tooTime for plan C
Currently flying under the radar.Feels good man
What nation do I play if I want everybody to like me?
>>574803630Whoever is the most submissive and fertile so your ripe lands get conquered easily
how much do you generally overcast a global by?
>>574761528Whats wrong with biddyn or edowyn or any of the other pymous maps?
>>574803630Any nation that have smiths and trademax with everyone on the map at reasonable prices
