good read edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-70Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-69>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn>Helpful LinksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>574266696
>>574545695https://www.reddit.com/r/IndieDev/comments/1uzpb17/we_playtested_over_2000_indie_games_here_are_the/
Gettin in early, the bloodmen are fun to fight now that they cartwheel around.I think I'm gonna stick with a project for once.
Repost from /bant/:Alright Aggy, we're starting prep for the October Game Jam and just like last time we need your help with coming up with some modifiers. Last time we had QTEs, Lootboxes, and Mouthmade SFX so we won't allow those to be used again. Have any fun game mechanic ideas or requirements that we can put on the list of consideration? Keep in mind that the jam will be themed around Halloween/spooky. Quirky, I know.
>>574549902Ugh those people again
>>574548842im the baby btw
>>574550213>
>>574548842dating your hand doesnt counteveryone here is a ginormous incel
so one fable prompt is 3-8$
Do you think this did well despite the graphics or because of the graphics?I imagine having "better" graphics (closer to realistic) would have been easier than what the game has.
>>574549902Personally I don't think it's a good idea but thematically you just have to have jumpscare on the list of considerations
>>574552053Clarity is more important than fidelity when it comes to strategy games. Those graphics are somewhat, but they fit the theme.
>>574549902"Barebones"
>>574552413I'll add it to the list doesn't mean it'll make it to the final 9.>>574552553So far we have>Jumpscares>Bare bones >All music/SFX must be from people who've already died
>>574552053becauseclearly aimed at unc dos boom booms who had to plug joystick into printer port
I'm sitting on a legit good VN concept but I can't into programming. I started writing a script for fun but at this point I feel like it's become too big and involved to forever exist inside my head. Anyone up for helping a fellow anon?
>>574553227Isn't VN like the easiest game type code vise? Most of it is just plain writing and/or art
>>574553380>just plain writing and/or artThat's more than I can do unfortunately, which is why I didn't even treat it seriously until the story start developing its own legs. If you want I can share what I've got so far.
>>574552053Doesn't even have a trailerImportance of trailers debunked forever
>>574553492I mean, just write it out and divide it into sections you then connect with each others through player choice/gameplay sections.
>>574553679Trailers, key-art and advertising don't make your game, but they are modifiers. You could argue he would have sold even more with a good trailer.
Voxeria Dev checking in. >Fresh thread, fresh build. Fixed the underground cave rain splashes from the weekend so exploration feels much cleaner now.Testing some new physics and features today. Drop any bugs or mechanical feedback in the replies.Play the web build here: https://paco-interactive.itch.io/voxeria
>>574554261Some games don't look better when in motion vs what the player imagines from screenshots so those games are better off without a trailer.
I'm thinking about trying to vibecode something. I have programming fundamentals, I'm just too lazy to actually program outside of work.Is Cursor good at Godot?Is the free Cursor budget enough to make daily progress towards a finished game?
>presented without commenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qOONbgDdr4
>>574554637Mystic earth and the background night sky are very similar for some monitors/contrast/brightness setups, or on a small screen. Consider giving them tile borders to make them obvious.Took me a second after first playing the game to realize there's a guy I'm controlling, and a range from that guy to dig. Consider when clicking to dig on a too distant tile to highlight the guy and make him grow, which would make this obvious.Some combination of moving the window from 1 monitor to another, or opening a different tab, makes it to the cursor and the tile selector are misaligned. I couldn't figure it out exactly, but when it happens, I need do restart the game to fix it.
>>574554637No offense, but your game looks and feels entirely vibecoded, especially with the strange emphasis on GUI aggressive elements like achievements, despite barely having a game.
>>574555628lol dumbass you're not going to complete any game regardless of your method if you can't even start working on it because you're too tired or whatever after work
>>574556160>>574557076Thanks for the solid feedback. Looking into the canvas resize/monitor bug right now and will add a visual cue for the dig range. Point taken on the GUI vs core gameplay balance, focusing on depth next.
>>574555628There's a decent godot MCP that cursor can use and booststrap from there for what you need.
>>574558551point taken but you didn't either confirm or deny your usage of vibecoding
>>574558551>Point taken on the GUI vs core gameplay balance, focusing on depth next.I don't understand what the goal of your game is supposed to be.
if im starting out, should i just download godot 4.8 experimental or 4.7 stable?
>>574559317>>574559667Anon 1: yeah I use AI (Claude) to write a chunk of this. Solo dev, no team, no funding, just trying to ship something instead of sitting on an idea forever. Not pretending to be a wizard with a debugger, I'm pretending to be someone who finishes projects. Vibecoding, whatever, cope.Anon 2: it's not a Minecraft reskin anymore. 6 dimensions already in (Overworld, Ocean Depth, Lava Core, Blither/Void, Gold, Mystic), each with its own blocks/hazards, unlocked by building portal recipes in-world, not through a menu.What I'm doing right now: made the organic blocks actually alive instead of static. Grass spreads onto bare dirt on its own, flowers self-seed, coral/kelp colonize the ocean floor for real, glowshrooms and crystal flowers creep across the mystic cave biome in the dark. Throttled/sampled so it doesn't nuke the framerate. World's starting to feel less like a static grid you're chipping at and more like something that keeps moving when you're not looking.Next: making that ecosystem stuff actually matter to gameplay, not just ambient decoration. Still solo, still AI-assisted, not hiding it.
>>574562038dipshit ai codelet zoomie
>>574562038>Not pretending to be a wizard with a debugger, I'm pretending to be someone who finishes projects. Vibecoding, whatever, cope.This was obviously written by AI too
broke: having AI code for youbroke: having AI draw for youbroke: having AI write for youwoke: having AI make a marketing plan for you
>>574562038Are you using AI to figure out what to implement next?>Grass spreads onto bare dirt on its own, flowers self-seed, coral/kelp colonize the ocean floor for realIt really sounds like you are focusing on stuff that does not matter, when your game is barely a game.
>>574555912give the gamers what they want or whatever trannadev says
>>574562038while I don't want to be as harsh as other anons, but they are right that you first need to figure out why players want to stay and keep playing the game, what are their goals, why they mine and place blocks
>>574563015>give the gamers what they wantalready ahead of u
Rig done.
>>574563310>while I don't want to be as harsh as other anonsbecause you're a docile porn addict/masturbator, you have no sack and are castrated so as such you feel sympathy for a literal ai user, you are cancer
I'm doing my part.
i know what gamers want and it's not that
>>574547524based
>>574351010>All Reviews: Mixed (153)
>>574563310fair point. what exists right now: mine what you need for a portal (portal book shows the recipe), unlock the next dimension, sell what you find for coins, buy ranks/upgrades with those. daily treasure hunt gives a reason to check in same-day.that's the loop, but I'll be honest, it answers "is there stuff to do" more than "why do you actually want to keep doing it." still working that part out.
>game makes $760k>steam takes 30% of that, you're left with $532k>publisher takes another 30% of the remaining amount, you're left with $372k>you co-developed the game with 3 other people, everyone gets an even split, you're left with $93k>you pay 30% income tax in your country>$760k down to $65k
>>574565021>Seemed really promising in the trailer, but when playing it feels like this game is a vibe-coded React website and not much more. The tutorial is also not very helpful for getting you introduced to the game, Coupled with the amount of bugs this game cannot be recommended sadly.the reviews never lie
>>574565329correct. that's what happens when you're on a team and have a publisher, you get totally crushed. it's why solodev with no publisher is the way. even if the game fails you made one at the mercy of nobody else and at your own pace
>>574565329>clean toliets at Google building>Google makes 500 billions per year>owners, other employees and staff take most of it>im only left with 100klyfe is unfair ;(
>>574566103yea but who gives a fuck about google. there's only one of them. gotta look at things that way
>>574555912>caught through uber eats gift cards bought on crypto sitesget fucked
>>574565329fat fvck gabencvnt taking raw 30% is insane
>>574565329And if your studio is incorporated then you have corporate income tax. Also if you used a third party engine then you also owe them a cut. The publisher will also steal your IP once your studio goes under.
I think i'm just going to go ahead and use generative AI for my art. I already use it to vibe code my way through projects. My skills are writing and puzzle design, I can't into anything else.
>>574569452Yeah... Valve made 11 billion dollars in the first half of 2026 and what do they even do with that money? Seriously like what do they do? Steamworks is horrible, they offer almost no support to developers, and in 2026 steam has to shut down for maintenance every week like what do they do with their money lol? Their using all that money to make overpriced hardware? They certainly aren't using it to make games.
>>574571796Deadlock needs another 10 years in closed beta.
>>574571796>he doesn't know about gabe newells fleet of child trafficking yachts
Kimi k3 can now oneshot roblox games.It's over parce.
>>574573757i'm surprised you haven't learned lua yet and tried to make roblox trash
>>574573757and I can oneshot my cum inside your mom's vagina, your point?
beautiful, got my full list of regional game servers to warn players of reboot in x minutes and to update files using my test server and reboot all in one terminal command from my central server, totally turnkey
>>574563456>I'm so glad I don't rely on aislop anymore>>574573757>aislop will rape your underage daughter chuddiewhat did latinx mean by this
>>574571796but at what point would it be too much? what if they increased their take to half? what about 75%? could valve get away with literally anything?
>>574571796Valve earned that money because they made a good game 22 years ago chudley
>>574577304valve's success is more about scouting early projects and buying them.>pre-CS half-life mods -> Counter Strike>dota -> dota 2>pre-TF quake mod -> Team Fortress 2>portal as a student project -> Portal as Valve's Game™It's really strange that the entire industry ignored this model, and that almost no AAA companies attempt to do this.
Howdy!
>>574578584becky...
>>574578584becky sex
>>574545695>>574545808literally everything listed here is wrong. according to this everything fromsoft made should've failed. and in my opinion i vastly prefer games that jut drop me in and let me figure things out. if you throw tutorials at me i'm deleting that shit.
>>574578846>zoomettelol disgusting. enjoy the aids
>>574578846>not gen alphangmi
>>574580431technically I could, aoc is unconditionally 15 here
>>574580626
>your game flopped because it's ugly and the description is too short>no, actually those graphics are great and the description is perfect. it's only bad when the game flops
>>574582826yepbad game = flopgood game = successsimple as
>>574552053There are some dudes who will only play games with ASCII graphics and are vehemently opposed to anything better. I think most of them are boomers/gen X and I’ve seen them a lot in traditional roguelike communities.
>>574583213retard
>>574555528True, but that is also issue of making a good trailer. I've seen some unfathomably shitty trailers that their effect must be negative.
>>574583690please provide some examples because i doubt there are many out there
who in here are actually intending on releasing their game within the next year and if so post steam page
>>574585942mealso page is not up yet
>>574585237https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr0NfVLABok
>>574586303you must've linked the wrong trailer dumbass
>>574586187>releasing in the coming months but no steam page up
is it too late to make a survivors-like?
Why can't ai chud third worldie post his game
>>574588031thirdies don't have 600$ to throw on slop every month
>>574588960even americans don't to be fair
>>574588960That makes sense how the ai spammer has no game
how do i get good at character design?
Is there anything more to creativity than this?
>>574589615obviously or the very concept of "discount version" wouldn't exist
>>574589716Huh?
>>574589827retard
>>574589361What's crazy is that I look like this haha
>Does creativity involve anything other than copy, transform, combine?>Obviously, otherwise transformed copies wouldn't exist
of course it's also the same retard from last time
>>574590140
can they just put a .gov on this ai shit already lol
Update on the thing anon called out earlier ITT: the "why do players place blocks" gap.Added: builds you share now get likes (real hearts, one per person, can't farm your own). If someone likes or loads your build, you get coins + a notification, even offline. Check in and see what happened while you were away. Popular tab now ranks by likes first, not just raw loads. Categories so you can actually browse instead of scrolling blind. Featured slot for the best ones.Doesn't fix the "is this barely a game" thing by itself, but it closes the loop anon pointed at: build -> shown -> liked -> rewarded. Building well is worth something now instead of just vanity.
>>574590489Sorry forgot the Link: https://paco-interactive.itch.io/voxeria
>>574547524The first 3 reduce labor that people don't want to do. Sure, some artisans and craftsmen probably wanted to continue working those jobs. But ultimately, it was only due to the fact that they spent a lifetime learning and honing those crafts, and it was their primary source of income. But when you asked the next generation what they wanted to do with their lives, they would rather pass on that work.With AI it's different. The jobs that are at risk, are jobs that people still want to do. People want to become artists, designers, and programmers.The first 3 provided luxury to many more people at a much lower cost. They were able to get more material goods, travel farther, and live in the comfort of an energy rich society.AI provides a simulacrum of art, but without the artistry behind it. Sure, it can help in some ways here and there. I'm not saying it's all bad. But it does defeat the purpose of the jobs people *want* to work.
>>574590401after they IPO, they'll be legally obligated to make profits, Which means the majority of people now will get priced out. And it will mostly be a corporate thing, while enthusiasts still play with local models.It will be a slightly less embarrassing passing like crypto.
>>574547524Life is worse for the middle class in every way since robots and outsourcing killed factory jobs tho lolMy grandpappy retired at 52 working at GM as a janitor while supporting 4 kids and a wife and we're supposed to celebrate those jobs dying?
>>574591429>Sure, some artisans and craftsmen probably wanted to continue working those jobs. But ultimately, it was only due to the fact that they spent a lifetime learning and honing those crafts, and it was their primary source of incomengl you're proving his point
>>574591615Honestly I think the robot part is completely irrelevant and what you're experiencing is 100% exclusively the result of wage suppression through outsourcing and immigration.
>>574591818That sentence in a vacuum proves his point. Read and comprehend the whole message.
>>574592068So artisans and craftsmen don't deserve their jobs because they were replaced by something better?And yet you complain the same is happening to you
>>574550948Why are you spreading heinous disinformation? $100 a month for "max" is hundreds of prompts, and you don't need to use fable for every prompt, going back and forth with opus works fine
>>574592260>SARRRRR DO NOT BE OF SPEARDING HEINOUS INFO !!11111
>>574592317You think a jeet could afford $100? But neither can you, putting you more on their street shitting level, you poor little faggot.
>>574586595Isn't that pretty normal? You don't have to fish for wishlists for half a year.
>AI haters are the real pajeets>AI worshippers are the real tranniesWtf
>>574592383no normal person defends a product like that.jeet gets his allowance of shill tokens, so he defends the Honor of his company
>>574592448Jeets love AI they just hate premium AI.
>>574592260still rich thing affordable only for americans
>>574592524nta but lieshalf of all americans can't afford shit(t. american)
11,000 jeets are seething and projecting while their little gigs are being killed by glorious GPU clusters
Anyone wanna make a game using AI?Like a collab.
>>574592932Furbies are demonic so that's a no.
>>574592932The whole point is that I don't have to collab with a human. It's awesome!
>>574592932>nah hold on bro it's thinking>yeah just a second gotta ask it something>shit im out of tokens, guess im done todaysounds miserable
>>574593161Wouldn't that subreddit be for people who hate artists tho?
im making a game in Scratch and you CANNOT stop meI WILL earn thousands of dollars off of this game and nodevs WILL seethe from my success when i post itt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIuc81vfTVU&t=148s
>>574593335it is meant for people fighting against people who "hate" "artists"
>>574592462>NO NARMAL PERSON IS BEING USING VELLY BAD DATA CENTAR SIR, IT IS TAKENG MANY OF THE SACRED WATERS OF GANGES AND DRINKING THEM UP SARAmazing, also is the "free Claude tokens for making 2 posts a day on 4chan" program in the room with us right now? Is it telling you to do bad things?
>>574594025Fighting how? By screaming at them?
>>574594156whining online
>>574594070legitimately embarrassing response, sometimes it's just better to ignore posts if you can't even attack them properly.
>>574594070nta but I misread ganges as gamers and am shitting myself kek
>>574592462Cmon, most of the datacenter hysteria is pure ignorance and cherrypickingThe amount of times AntiAI people say that only "AI datacenters" are bad, shows how little they actually give a shit
>>574593643
>>574594537So many youtubers and streamers push the data center water hoax and its like dude do their watchers not realize those videos are hosted in literally the same kind of massive datacenters?
>>574595301did you know datacenter obliterates 1 cubic meter of water on subatomic level every hour to produce evil and good for nothing AI that will steal everyones jobs?
My favorite people are the ones who talk about how AI art is wasting water but they're cool with AI code when AI art can easily be genned at home on a low powered GPU.
>>574595471good morning sar,,, pls be studying more english!
If AI could automatically left swipe sub-5s on dating apps, those tree-hugger women would want it more than abortions
I'm tired of doing gamedev ethically and getting nowhere.Time to become evil and join the dark gamedev side.
>>574592207The point is that AI replaces what people *want* to do. The point of the printing press, was to produce a large quantity of information, which can be distributed to many people. The process isn't necessarily the thing that people wanted to do. But rather, the RESULTS of the process is what people truly wanted.With AI it's different. The process of creation is what people want to do. And AI takes that away from them.
>>574596298Gamers don't deserve better and they really don't even want better so don't feel bad.
>>574592653i mean usa, not all the americans
>>574596308what a retarded take, I want my game to have features I want, I don't care how to get there, shut your trap
>>574596308pretty sure most game devs despise artists and would gladly replace them with AI
>>574596608That is unfair to the trans community though...
>>574596308Explain that to the artisans and craftsmen who wanted to do the things they wanted to do (like writing a book without having to use that "printing press")Next you'll say AI code is allowed because programmers don't matter, "only artists do"
>>574596608All of the best games are made by artists of some kind. Be they drawers, writers, or even engineers. Every prime game dev has an artist background.
>>574596768>drawers
>>574596768name one
>>574596768just making shit up huh? maybe if you into lgbt indie slop
>>574596768Everyone knows the best indie games are always made by musicians. Artists and programmers fall victim to scope creep. Toby Fox? Dogshit artist and programmer - didn't matter.
I pirate indieslop and pay full price for AAAkinoEvery one of you I single-handedly make sure that you flop and get pirated to deathI am helping save this industryYou're welcome.
>>574597047thanks for doing your part rajesh
>>574596991also creator of 1.5 dogshit games
>>574596738>Explain that to the artisans and craftsmen who wanted to do the things they wanted to do (like writing a book without having to use that "printing press")They were a product of their time. Their environment made that trade viable. While the arts are desired work no matter the time period. Everyone wanted to be an artist in every period, no matter what was happening around them. A soldier with draw in the sand with the point of his gun to pass the time.>Next you'll say AI code is allowed because programmers don't matter, "only artists do"I've already included programmers in with artists in my first post. Please actually read before replying. I do excuse programmers for using AI to assist them though. Since programming is is as much logic as it is creativity. Sometimes you just need to know the logic of the thing you're trying to create. But the application of that logic is still a creative process.
>>574596889>>574596901>>574596991MiyamotoJason RubinKojima
>>574597270>TL: artisans and craftsmen don't matter, they were a product of their time, they were replaced by something "better"So you just proved my point then
>>574597413>3 whole people, all ancientlol
>>574597413>Kojimakilled your bait too early
>>574597459Guillaume Broche (Writer)Toby Fox (Musician)Alex and Kelsey Beachum (brother and sister co-creatives. 3D artist and Writer)>>574597528Kojima originally wanted to get into films before he got into video games. He used video games as a creative outlet and became a writer and overall creative director. He also has an interest in technology, and was proactive in creating the Fox Engine.
>>574597429You're not getting it. It's about desires. Not about end product. The other crafts died because the desire to get into those crafts were only temporary. The desire to become an artist is timeless.
>>574598638Very few people actually enjoy the process of making art. I see it all the time, people want to be able to have finished art pieces, not be able to spend 10 hours in a single drawing. You underestimate how results-oriented most people are.
I see the mental case luddie got unbanned
>>574592932I'm developing an AI cheerleader to motivate me to work on my game but I don't wanna collab.
>>574599058The rush to get a game out comes from financial incentives, or the pressure to compete for attention. Being early on a trend means getting the most attention. And attention translates to money, so truly that too is a a financial incentive.given the support, artists will take all the time they want to work on their craft.
>>574599658This is an edit of ai art.
>>574599905'dites are only capable of stealing AI Chads work, very sad
>>574599905kek, what a moronic statement
>>574599956goon, why haven't you gen'd any new things lately? should really add more pictures to the rotation.
>>574599658
>>574600096ill ask joshua to get me some, thanks bud
>>574600076But it is an edit of ai art.
>>574600076meant for >>574600076
oh no the third worlders are complaining about 'stolen ai generations' kek.you better call those american organisations
>>574600307>organisationsesl moment
>>574600307cuck
>>574600248reminds me of people who get upset over pixel art edits lmao
>>574600375he's Yuropeen, so close enough
>>574600407But I'm just saying that that anon is basically using ai art by editing itHe's using some rando's slop instead of drawing his own thingHe's a slopcuck>>574600507That's racist
>>574600375ai chud third worlders don't send their brightest
>>574600507jeets hate this picture
>>574600647You're saying it wrong.It's supposed to be"X aren't sending their best"Holy shit you ARE probably ESL kekalso>chudYou literally called aitards brown, I think you're the chud here kek
>>574600647'goon smite this cretin
>>574600772>>574600507Racists are so easy to manipulate. All you have to do, is imply the "bad" race is doing something, and they will ignore all instances of their own race doing the same thing.
As a programmer, I refuse to associate with artists who whine about ai art, because they're the same mouthbreathers who vibecode literal slop and complained about human programmers beforehand
>>574600928>whataboutismlike shit-covered clockwork
I think we are all aligned that 'dites lost yet again, good job folks.
>>574600781are you trying to convince someone that ai chud aren't brown.check out the balls on this thirdie
>>574600953They'll say something about muh human expression and the sanctity of art and intellectual property meanwhile most of them are doing disgusting porn commissions of characters they don't own
>>574593831kanna...
>>574601042>are you trying to convince someone that ai chud aren't brown."Are you trying to convince them that AI Chuds aren't brown?"Ftfy ESL-tard
pe'dites hate AI because it refuses to give them what they want
I'm fishing for third worlders.looks like I have caught a stinky one.
>>57460104210 bucks says the painter was ai generated
>>574601309erm it is ok when trans folx like xim use it tho
>>574600987That wasn't a "whataboutism"
>>574601042>You can't be creative unless you can drawSeems classist and ableist my nigga
>>574601260>I'm fishing for third worlders., looks like I have caught a stinky one.Yeah you caught yourself
>>574601515kek
>>574601309of course its ai generated, it looks shit like a ai chud third worlder's progress post
>>574601574>like a ai chud"like an ai chud"*FTFY again
>>574601515lmaooo
amazing how mentioning that the ai chud is a third worlder bring's them out into the open.played like a violin
>>574601574You REALLY need to learn better English mateYour constant typos are embarrassing.
>too dumb to draw>too poor to use ai>doesn't know english>has to rely on poor edits of ai content'dites everyone
>>574601681>grok spell check this 4chan commenthere you go saar>gottem.jpg
>>574601805>bring's"brings"*>played like a violinIt's "played like a fiddle"
I'm a "luddite" relatively speaking but god this "reee ai chuds" guy is retarded, primarily because he paints everyone else as a third worlder while having the audacity to out himself as an ESL
I'm tired of bugfixing. Now I'm going to play some vidya.
>>574602124What vidya are you gonna play?
>>5746019401) I don't use Grok (or as I like to call it: Cock, because that's what it sucks)2) I didn't use a "spell check AI". I don't need an AI to know that you're a retarded ESL
>>574602243A multiplayer game, not saying which though.
>>574602265saar
>he's still drawing pencilslop instead of using AI for his assetsngmi
>>574602410>image>phrase, then meaning for phraseIs that from an English class you're taking orrrrNot beating the ESL allegations...
>>574602348whatever you say saar, you'll run out of tokens soon enough thirdie.
>Be racist and retarded>Pretend to be morally justified for it because your delusions tell you that the people you hate are "chuds" and therefore "worthy of racism">Also call them third worlders while being an ESL because you are a hypocrite
>>574602743tard
>>574602783you are mentally ill, seek medical help
>>574601805makes sense.indians do have a habit of going on pointless internet brigades over the smallest criticism.
>>574602590I'm not a jeet or an AI addict, I just think you're retarded.If you're gonna be an asshole, at least use proper English and be a SMART asshole. And clearly you are a DUMB asshole. Probably as much as the POTUS (which is why you probably hate him; his retarded ass reminds you of yourself probably)
Make smaller games.
>>574603164no nobody has ever cared for smaller games other than for a couple of minutes. dream game or no game
>>574602961...Sooo in other words, the "muh ai chuds" guy is a projecting Indian probably>>574603216Also this desu
>>574603164what about small games with big features?
Btw, butting in to add my two cents.My mother is a ChatGPT user last time I checkedAnd she's a boomer leftie dem. So is she an AI "chud"?
kanna hours are the best hours
>>574603008 (me)>10 minutes later and still no response
>>574603681did you get your attention seeking points in for the day with your multi line post that could've been said in one line, jessica?
>>574603948>jessicaWho?
Anyways, this general is cancer as always.I'll leave you lads and the resident "muh ai chuds" schizo to your own devices
>>574602590>I IDENTIFY AS YOU BEING INDIAN!! STOP DEADRACING YOURSELF!! YOU'RE INDIAN!!! INDIAN!! SAY IT!!!Maybe you should just let proud white American men use advanced technology in peace, and instead of throwing a trite melty whenever someone mentions using it, you can do your breathing exercises and go vent on discord.
>>574604648smoked that 'dite freak
>>574604648>when you tell xer epstein did nothing wrong
finished my devtools on the 3d side. now i can start programming the actual game.Now off to Hammer Hell to 3d map the entire game.Is Source 2 superior to Unity's ProBuilder?
the more i think about the value of video games, i can only come up with one value: feeling better after playing, than before playing.a game can make money and be engaging without achieving that, but that's the players fault, just like people taking drugs and rotting away.but if we talk about actual value, then it's about improving your mood, increasing your morale.imagine playing sims and sending your sim to play video games, and after playing they feel worse than before. you'd never send them to play games ever again. just like you wouldn't send them to use drugs.that's probably why i've quit league of legends a year ago. i've noticed that it's very engaging, but i feel like shit after every session. i feel exhausted, angry, frustrated, tense, even ashamed about losing control of myself.i guess the twist that happened, is that consumer think that if something engages them, that it's a good thing. "this drug makes me addicted, therefore it's good", "this healthy food doesn't make me addicted, therefore it must be bad".going from here, how exactly do you even figure out which games are a good and which are bad? probably the first step is looking if it contains any of the dark game design patterns? or psychological hooks?but then, how do you define a "good video game"? cause ofc, eating cauliflower all day isn't healthy either. a video game doesn't need to be bland to be healthy. maybe looking at the developers also helps? meaning checking their values and intentions?e.g. if you look at early EA, their intention behind the sims, spore, sim city etc. was definitely good. they wanted to make something great. all those games also have a slight humor to them. somewhat like studio ghibli or early disney.maybe you can also put values in your game by creating conflict about them. e.g. if you want to present the value of goodness, put evil in your game and create conflict between good and evil. (lord of the rings, harry potter, star wars)
>>574605896https://q3edit.com/
pretty happy with this one.chuds aniquilated.
>>574606607wtf is q3edit
>ai spammer: uses ai to make shitty memes>the chad cris: uses ai to make his lolisho rape game
>>574606918cris doesn't use ai anymore
>>574607326he walks back on it every other day
two types of devsa) artistb) non-artistan artist has very strong opinions and a clear set of values and a concept of right and wrong.a non-artist things every is good as long as it sells, they constantly talk about fun and engagement and they think everything is equally good, if someone likes it.i think the core of every artist is authenticity and honesty. without it, you have no identity, obviously. it's like a person saying whatever others want to hear.an artist also needs to be confrontational. art is like war, you gotta fight for territory. the less you fight for territory, the more others will occupy it. it's a war of the mind.
>>574607757post your art
>>574608043
>>574608109HOLY FUCKING CHARACTER DESIGN I'M COOMING FOR KANNA'S CUNNY
>>574608109that's not yours
>>574608184let's just pretend it is, okay?
>>574607757>>574608043BEHOLD AN ARTIST
stupid fucking single player devs
>>574608109is this what gamers want?
>Arrive>Expose tokenless ai chud thirdies>LeaveYeah I'm thinking based.
so in order to get rich you need to work a lot.in order to be able to work a lot you cannot have depression.in order to not be depressed you need to have a sense of meaning in life.in order to have meaning in life you have to value things.in order to value things you need to have values.in order to have values you need identity.what's the point of having the perfect money making formula when that state of being makes you so depressed that you can't even get up in the morning?one thing i keep noticing over and over that my depressions are mainly caused by my goals. if i have a meaningless goal i get more and more depressed.
>>574608308improved your pencilslop, lil bro
>>574608702drop me a couple dollars and i'll read that
>>574608838not very appealing, i doubt this is what gamers want
i cured my depression by putting "before:2014" into every youtube searchgod the mix of normie npc slop and ai slop is truly the most disgusting creation of human history.
>>574609319darwin was right, survival of the fittest. that's why i became a welfare leech. that's the path of least resistance."find your niche" they said, and i did find one. :)
>china plans on sharing AI models and expertise with 29 BRICS nationsgringos BTFO.
>>574609952China's motivation is not succeeding in the space, it's devaluating the American businesses.
>>574609421they removed before on the backend retard
>>574609952gringo is such a flaccid slur
sometimes i really feel like depression is just food related. you eat shit food, you have shit chemical balance, and you get depressed.
>>574610567no pussy + no money = depressionso you're partly right because no money = can't eat healthy, so gotta get the remaining calories from slop
>>574609952>>>/g/109318976
>>574610447its not really a slur
>>574610434*trump voice*: WRONG
>>574610567high fructose corn syrup does that, it's designed to trap you in a death spiral of>harder to burn off>makes you feel lethargic >highly addictive so you consume more
>>574610676That's ok cause he can just use kimi k3, GLM, and TurboQuant with Gemma.Leave my colombian schizo alone.
>>574610752doesn't work like that but you can try to say that
>characters shoot paint>paint damages enemies, activates elements like switches, moving platforms, and level gimmicks>paint also coats and remains on ground and walls>characters move faster and can climb walls when in paint of their own color, and slow down and take damage in colors other than their own>multiple weapons and subweapons exist that spread the same paint in different waysis there a term for when a single mechanic is so central to the game that every single thing you do in it is a new application, interpretation, or extrapolation of it?
>>574610852>leave those billion dollar corporations alone!
>>574545808thanks for the link anon.
>>574610867"gimmick"
>>574611721*but not meant in a derogatory way
>>574611812device
>>574610867splatoon is such a tragedy of squandered potential.It could have become a new pillar IP
>>574611951good term but probably not used enough so researching game devices won't yield the right thing. gimmick would.
>>574611721>>574611812>>574611951>>574612139"gimmick" feels more like a one-off thing, like mega evolution or dynamaxing in pokemon or the hypernova ability or super abilities in kirbyi want to draw comparisons to how mario's jump is a similar "core mechanic" that interacts with objects and defeats enemies, but that's become ubiquitous toward games in generali'm talking about a system that is so rooted into a game's workings that nearly all the "hows" and "whats" of the game are just that same mechanic but applied and/or interpreted in a different form>>574612089"squandered potential" my asscheekssplatoon is a massive IP with a huge cultural presence in japanit's big enough to be on par with mario and zelda in a decent chunk of cases
>>574612861what an awful post
wait indie game joe sold 1 million copies of his game. I thought he was just some X user with high follower count who shared indie games. he's a dev who mogs all of agdg too?!
>>574613040don't care about how many copies someone has sold. what about the devs that poured years into their game not even to break 100 reviews dumb fuck
>>574612880You only say that because he used a picture of robotnik instead of some little girl you can ogle over
>>574612861some gimmicks are just that good. cappy, portal gun, gravity switch
>>574613091>what about the devs that poured years into their game not even to break 100 reviews dumb fuckindie game josé
>>574613040if he didn't sell a copy to me, then his game has no value to me.
>>574613402do you have value to the world?yes you do, I Iove you anon
>>574612861`central device`, `central mechanic` or `pivotal device` is what i'd use. I don't think we have a german or nordic-tier term for the exact specificity that also implies the needed context. And borrowing "thread" from writing also doesn't work.You'd just need to elaborate a little bit so people have the context.
how many of you head over to r/indiedev just to see what high quality games look like
>>574613881>`strange usage, esl
>>574613925We already have The Witness and Stardew Valley what more could you possibly need?
>>574613990i just like backticks for terms and quotes for extended strings
>wanted to make a simple 3D model to learn animation>managed to make something even more complex to rig
>>574614302>rig3dtards
you don't need a formula for a good game, you need a formula that makes your brain want to yesdev.the challenge isn't to make a good game, the challenge is to make a game.
>>574613925I go there to see uncs posting selfies>just released my first indie game
>>574614451get that from your ai quote generator zoomer? sounds like something hanging on a female's wall you dip
>>574614598the only barrier between you and a finished game is your psychology.
>>574615096trvke
>>574615304what is true
>>574615096I love AI (Annihilate Indians) now
>>574616757is that a band or
how can you not love them?
how are you american devs hanging in there lately? getting some progress in before a new week or what's the deal with all of you right now
>>574589861why are you so ugly and poorly designed?
>>574617989post face
>>574617301by being one
why aren't you using your game to propose to your gf?
>>574618168
>>574618776>propose
>>574618776>using your shitty flopware to propose to your gf LMAO I bet she said no
>>574618776>partner
i think gamers don't really mentally process that every tiny thing in a game has to be designed/programmed. i think they see games more like someone cutting wood in the forest. they think the forest and nature already exist and you are just the guy who cuts the tree.
>>574619057as you know women don't have a motherfucking clue what goes into anything. show them even a literal building and they don't fucking get it. i've learned the hard way to not share too many details with women now. they just don't grasp what goes into anything
>>574619250I'll never forget when I was contacted by a friend from highschool after like five years of not talking and he said he heard I was developing games (I still talked to his brother) and he asked if I could make him a football training simulator. He said he needed it in a couple weeks because he was going to the military. Dude, he was dead serious too. He was sending me football drills and shit to explain what he was talking about.I was just like>lol
>>574619695well yea dipshit he is/was young as shit. most men above 30 for example at least have a sense on that type of thing. not some dumb fuck of a retard 21 year old or whatever in the absolute fuck your dumb friend's brother was at the time. you said dumb shit too at that age, everyone does
>>574619695it's kinda cute. it proves how much they mystify gaming. it's like they think there's a universe inside a computer and all npcs just naturally collide with each other and communicate with each other. and we are just giving something like prompts into the computer how the npcs should behave.it's almost like they think it's magic.
>>574620004He was 24 lol.Shit I realize what I said made him come across like a clueless normalfag too but I should clarify he was a massive gamer. We used to play Halo in cash tournaments together as teenagers and he coached a league of legends team in college.
>>574620035just relax there attention seeker
>>574620194and now we have unreal engine and people think you can literally just press a button and make a game.same with ai. when i tell someone something is hard, i often hear "can't you just use ai to make it?" now.
>>574620392why do you keep stating the obvious?
>>574620392Yeah for real lol.
i wonder if it's possible to make a game that appeals to everybody. it would be the holy grail of game design.
>>574621089Breath of the Wild
>>574621878gross
>>574622513If you don't like BOTW you'll never design a game that appeals to everybody
>>574621878stardew valley captured more people, i still think it's the widest net in gaming.
post your progress musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gX1BY7_r0k
>>574623062https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D66T36qsi_w
>>574623062https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9JubUlyUGM
quick reminder that terry davis could've made the most complex game in history entirely solo had he spent his time making a game instead of an operating system
>>574626305terry ironically made more games than most of /agdg/.
>>574626592yea it's absolutely madness that he had full on games inside his os
>>574618776>PartnerSo... She said no?Wouldn't she be his wife, otherwise?Also the game has 35 reviews. Guess that jerkoff story didn't translate to sales
>>574620392>can't you just use ai to make it?Are they wrong? There's no game AI can't make nowadays. It'll cost you money in tokens but you can quite literally fable each and any idea you have.
>fable, make the sims GAZA edition
>>574626305complex does not equal good
>>574628773>>Wouldn't she be his wife, otherwise?>What is an engagement?And also some people like to use the word partner because they're cowboys I guess
>>574629665when you're a brainlet like yourself that's true
Drinkin again and getting very sentimental I feel like shit I wish I never did any of that shit I can't believe I could be so careless I miss my little monkey boy so much he was like my baby how could i treat him like that :( also Nacho (and really just anyone else I interacted with) I'm so sorry for how I treated you none of you deserved that. I know it doesn't make anything better and I don't want forgiveness I just hate that I treated multiple people like that.
>>574628773partner is a more endearing term than wife sometimesboomers still use the term wife even though they hate their wives
>>574630949that brainlet: Albert Einsteinhe wasn't the one who said it
>>574630949I do like complexity in games but it has to be designed well for it to be good. Complexity in itself doesn't mean much. Pseuds might just think it makes it good because there's so much bullshit in it, making them feel smart after spending a couple hundred hours playing it and watching tutorials to understand
>>574632070cuz you made porn of the monke?
Voxeria update: hooked the creative side directly into progression, following up on what anon pointed out earlier ITT.loop is: build something > people like it > you earn coins, even while you're offline. coins spend on the same stuff as always > permanent upgrades (reach, speed, max health) and ranks that unlock commands like /home and /heal, or the Block Atlas.so a good build isn't just vanity anymore, it actually speeds up your mining/progression.
>>574632960That and I had unchecked mental illness that caused an endless amount of havok in personal relationships. And I kept myself in unhappy situations because it was easy. And I deleted everything ever. My entire early 20s and teenage years is gone because I deleted everything, I can't look back on anything anymore.
>>574618776Because I don't have a gf. There's just no girl for me in this world.
>coming home to dev after a long day
>>574633098whyd you delete it all
>>574633210I was planning on killing myself one night and cleared out my PC. 10 years of my own work gone. As for the accounts, that should be obvious. No one would want to have my reputation. I feel so bad I want to make Punch Monkey again and share him with my friends but I can't.
>>574608109Sex.
An hour of gesture drawingLet's go
>>574633115Have you tried taking showers, touching grass and respecting women?>>574618776None of my girlfriends ever played my games. Even when the games paid for our vacation.
>>574633358Nothing is gone even when deleted, retard. You have to extensively overwrite the storage.
>>574633518This was a year and a half ago, it's all gone. I have bits and pieces in various places but I have none of my drawings. Fitting since even when I was 5 I would throw out my drawings but this shit sucks. Really just upset about what I did.
>>574633470>Have you tried taking showers, touching grass and respecting women?I've tried everything except making a successful game.
>>574626305>quick reminder that terry davis could've made the most complex game in history no he wouldn't have, he hates complexity and thinks only retards like you admire complexity>had he spent his time making a game instead of an operating systemlook up handmade hero, newfag
>>574633604That's the cool thing about drawing, since you're always improving your skills all the old drawings potentially lose are not as good as all the future drawings you can make.
struggling to get the fire to look how I'd really like it to look
>>574633367fans of this tranime are obnoxious and lgtb
>>574635225do you have additive blend mode for sprites? this looks non transparent.
>>574635371isn't that just because 70% of zoomoids are lbgt?
>>574635225fire isn't homogeneous pieces you stitch together.could probably start by mapping a few pixel colors to temperatures, and then have a basic `burning` shader which approximates changing colors with whatever other dynamic variable affectors you want to add.
>>574635471yeah I can make any part of it transparent if I wanted.>>574635559It's already a shader I am just still struggling with it.
>>574636107Then the `core` should be more dynamic and not just a single fill-color. and you need to add more layers that can intertwine like actual fire.
Welp, I'm down to one display. The other one died on me and paying even €100 for a basic new one would be too much in my situation. If I feel it's slowing me down significantly I'll get a new one.87 days left. Would be around 82 if I got a new display. Work is progressing slow. I spent the whole day yesterday testing some edge cases in quest resolution. And whole day is right. I worked 5 hours but it took me from 11am to midnight.
>>574636581there are cheap displays at flea markets
>>574635371Okay but where are your gesture drawring reps?
>>574579142outlier>>574582826learn marketing
>>574636581>€
>>574636653They're not that cheap for it to be worth going to the flea market and buying something with no warranty or way to test it. I found a IPS 24" 1080p with DisplayPort, free delivery and 2 years of warranty for €80 so I'll probably buy that one. I've been using one display for 10 minutes and it's already annoying as fuck>>574637160I don't want to confuse everybody with the archaic medieval currency we use in this shit hole. €100 is around 10 pieces of flint and a sheep's bladder.
>>574637361...
Good morning progress posters
>>574632070i should start drinking again
Why are most game developers white?
>>574639808most are actually brown
>>574636107feels more like a creature. animated flame sprite sheets built from probably was the way to go for the old school look(from real flames or sim). this looks like something AI would cook up.
why are moist game developers brown?
moist
oh god. I don't want to be a nodev...
>>574600507all loli artists are in asia tho?
>>574640635how much does this cost
ludstatus?
>>574633367damn azurdev you finally surpassed.
>>574640806I'm on the $20 a month subscription. I don't pay for extra usage. fable ate a lot of this, I don't normally get so close to the limit.
>>574600507I'm probably the only brown person in this entire general and I hate to say this but, this meme is true. Every since Gemini had gotten better I can't go a day without asking questions to solve my problems. A white indie gamedevcel could probably solve it by himself. Brutal racepill.
>>574641254Are you Cris? Then no.
lolistatus?
>>574641306In development.
what does pedophilia have to do with gamedev again?
>>574641301Cris is an aryan workflow GOD
>>574641389Here's a (You) lolichad.
hey everyone, i've been making music for now than 10 years and always wanted to work with vidya.here's some of the stuff i've self released : https://drive.proton.me/urls/Z9F5B9HYCM#w2EnvafHVc6Cit's all GPL so you can go and use it without even crediting me i think but i would love if you do. but yea anyway i would prefer to work with someone (or a team) working on a game, and building the OST from scratch. I also know a bit with SFX making. please send me a (you) if you're interested
>>574641392games are for children
>>574641646wtf a black window opened and closed before I could read it and now my cursor has a skull next to it WTF DID YOU DO HOW DO I FIX THIS?
>>574641740faggot its just a private proton drive link with flacs ;_;
>>574641306railed.
>>574641779I trusted you...
joey fygoon was right btw
making video games is a first world luxury
>>574641898
>>574642117i hate you
>>574642236I like 20eleven4
>>574642157sometimes it feels like a punishment.
>>574641646If you want better chances you should try the discord, it's tough to find collab here, too many shitpostes
>>574642273*except the jump scare at the end
>>574642398i'll check it out thanks>>574642273>>574642471thanks, yeah that ending is a bit extreme i agree, sorry for that
>>574642550it's cool though. memorable in a way.
You can REALLY tell when certain posters wake up and immediately start spamming /agdg/, thank God for the /bant/ thread.
>>574642637>it's cool though.Are you 5 years old? Stop using empty vibe-words like 'cool' as though they're constructive in any way.
>>574642637thanks>>574642758it's better than nothing, i liked his reply fuck off
>>574642758"it's all good brother". I'm 39
>>574642704I've actually been up all day, I just post in other boards. You're not that special aggy.
>>574642831>39 yo boomer unc on 4chan>not keeping quiet about itI'd be embarrassed to admit itt. 41 yo unc
>>574642953I thought old people were supposed to lose all sense of shame?
>>574639839but the /bant/ thread is 99% white flags and the occasional brazilian
>>574642831>>574642953denounce pedophilia and trannadev
>>574643565I denounce that and also I'm off to kill kannadev in hytale
>>574641646I like The Prowler although the reverb is slightly excessive, I'll listen to this while coding. I don't think any of this would fit my game, also GPL is not a very useful license if you want people to use it for free since it's copyleft and gamedevs don't usually want to to open source their code. MIT would be better and you should put a license txt in the folder. I struggle with collaborative work and I'm unlikely to earn a cent from this hobby, so I'm not interested in your help, but maybe someone else might be. Finally, check out >>>/bant/agdg for a version of this thread with less shitposting.
>>574643354I'd like to, but when I went to the store this morning my ass started itching and I didn't want to scratch myself until I got back home 20 minutes later and it didn't stop itching the whole time.
>>574643412sure
>>574644712thanks, i'll hope it help produce good code ! i don't think MIT licensing is possible on bandcamp, but i honestly don't really care i'm not going to dmca anything or anyone for the financial part it's the same for me, i don't aim to gain any money for it, i just want people to have fun playing a videogame accompanied by my music. thanks for your help anon, much appreciated !
>>574545695cant believe nortubel won the fifa world cup
>>574643868based unc
fixed a little frame dip caused by shitty post processing. now my game plays like a dream.
>>574642831*I just remembered I'm only 38. this is great news
You can't expect your game to be successful if you still haven't mastered the meta game.
>>574648937how do i master the meta game?
some of you are still "it" from a game of tag you played as a kid. this is why you're NGMI.
>>574649989Buy my course and it will teach you.
>>574641646hope you find some guys because there's plenty devs out here who need musicbut at the same time I should warn you, music is one of the luxury jobs of dev49% or less of time spent on a game is programming 49% of it is art1% is music. though music can be VERY importantmusicians often do sound design as well and cover many different projects, hopping between them. it's one of the most competitive devjobs probablyin an ideal world, the dev themself would make the music because the dev understands the full story and meaning and vibe of the game hence why it works so well for Toby Fox but most devs are too lazy
>>574651575you cannot make a game without funding, it's not laziness. it's insane how out of touch you are with reality.
>>574651575I dont think toby fox is a jack of all trades.
>>574652113I've made a game without fundingand I also made the music. I didn't know music to begin with, I just learned it and it's one of the easiest skills to learn out of the various skills.
>>574652226He's not, hence why he got help with the art. He also has some things he's not great at but he manages to downplay it somewhat.also it doesn't always hit, I've had times where his games honestly feel it's getting a slog with the nothingburger gameplay but I still stand by him as a great example of cohesion between narrative and music in a game.
>>574652229i've opened a restaurant without funding. i also cooked the food. i didn't know how to cook to begin with, i just learned it and it's one of the easiest skills to learn out of the various skills.
>>574652327Well, good for you, but I think you're lying because unlike composing music in a game (which I've done, have you done that?) you barely spend any time on it compared to other tasks if you do everything yourself. Cooking food takes most of your time at a restaurant, though you could one man solo it. You would still need to pay rent and purchase food, unlike in gamedev where you don't need to pay for anything at all (barely any of the software people use is paid) at most you'll be paying $100 up front for steam. Or buying a $100 art tablet which isn't actually necessary but I'd recommend it.
>>574652554How many copies did you sell?
https://open.spotify.com/track/5le4sn0iMcnKU56bdmNzso?si=MLwUdP8VREC2wrYy2K7kuA&utm_source=copy-linkWake up at 3am take shower walk to starbucks.Walk home drinking a pike and smoking cigerettes.Get home open my own text editor on arch linux.Listen to this.Its gonna be a good day
>>574652317Undertale is mediocre if you take away its soundtrack. I think that's part of why many people overrate Toby Fox's writing/art/design/etc. skills, because they don't appreciate how much his musical talent carries the game
>>574651575maybe i should make my own game yeah, i've got some dev background but i've been sticking to sysadmin for a while now. we had a few starting project with a friend of mine but it didnt really went far, at least for now !
i am a snailcat and i woke up again for another silly day of slowly making my game
I am a snailcat and I just paid for claude max 5
>>574652831Enough to support a family.>>574653148I agree. It would have flopped and failed without the music and I certainly wouldn't have suffered through it. That's why I say music can be very important (mostly for story-heavy games or very unique/style focused games, gameplay-heavy games can potentially get away with asset flipping and/or royalty free)>>574653424If you want to work on a game at a 50/50 sort of pay rate instead of 90/10 or worse then I'd recommend trying programming+music then. The biggest difference going from indie to AAA is indie expects you to juggle many roles, AAA expects you to have a very specific role (like writing item descriptions in skyrim).If you start a project yourself, that'll mean you can make something that fits your music better, it sounds like you have a certain vibe already (that kinda faux-retro 3D lowpoly kinda thing with simple but easy to pick up gameplay, in my opinion)Aside from doing music myself I've also worked with fans making music and studios and there's always a bit of a disconnect between what I want and what they're thinking.
>>574653580code generation is making me a lazy asshole, think i should chill out on it and revert to a snailcat. AI also makes me feel less proud of my work as a programmer, and gives me anxiety because im too lazy to read the generated code if it just works.But it did yield me a lot of progress regarding terrain generation, i didnt have to deal with algorithms and debugging it. just the step by step logic im aware of.I was burnt out and AI really helped me out during that time, but i think im going to return to just coding with minor ai assistance.
also how do you guys have tech jobs? are you guys just old and have YOE? I cant find anything as a new grad so im forced to make my own games and chase my dreams...I just wanted to be a based hobbydev but now my financials shall hinge on my delusions
why do people constantly tell me that on welfare you have all the time in the world to only do what you want to and to not care about money? it's actually the total opposite, i constantly have to think how to get out of welfare asap. it even includes extreme time pressure.being one missing payment away from homelessness is not security.
>>574652229wtf? can you give tips on how you did this? Did you use one of the beginner friendly programs or did you just jump into FL studio? Music is such a blackbox to me, it's the only section of gamedev where im willing to contract someone else for it.
>>574654212for me, I lived on super holodomor poverty mode, saving every cent of welfare. the built up quite an emergency fund.
>>574652113I'm trying to go for a hybrid approach : Make as much of a prototype as possible in my free time and then get funding (government grants + loans) to hire an intern to finish up the art. Is this crazy?
>>574654294I used LMMS. I seriously don't actually recommend it but it can work. The real reason I don't spend thousands on instruments and recording shit isn't because I can't afford it, but because I have so little space. I don't even have a MIDI keyboard and that sucks, get a MIDI keyboard if you can.You don't have to actually play instruments. It helps, someone I worked with said they learned an instrument just so they could add it to a soundtrack to make it sound more real but that's not necessary. You get charged more for music commissions that have live instruments, too. One dev place I stayed at had a music room with instruments and recording already in it though so you can sometimes get access to recording rooms or rent one out depending on where you are.Anyway. Same learning process as with anything: Study, practice, review/fix. Look at existing music to get an idea of what works and what doesn't, ideas for instruments, etc.LMMS comes with barely anything so you'll have to download a bunch of soundbanks yourself and manually test each instrument to see if it'd fit.There's a lot of dicking around. If you have a good ear for music, you can forego music theory and just bash things in until something works. If you struggle to tell what sounds good and what doesn't, you've gotta study music theory, sorry.Don't be afraid to commission someone though. I kinda just did it for fun. My music's not the best but it gives the game a unique, personal feeling.
>>574654687tracktion waveform is actually the best free daw. and it's so customizable that i even could replicate my ableton live workflow somewhat.
are the best ideas all like this?"game x, but it's y"
I've created a test scene where I can determine how close a fighter needs to be before a move strikes the target. It will be useful for moving the cpu opponents and knowing when they need to strike their target. I've made a start on a first arena too.
>>574655424yes. but y has to be profoundly stupid.
>>574655595nice proggythis game me an idea for a sex mini-game
>>574655424that's a terrible way to get ideasyou should take ideas from outside of video games>ghost hunting TV show, except it's a game
Finally doing it, after finishing my 2D project its now time to do 3D.
we need to kill all luddites
>>574654895>tracktion waveformI'm sorry what the fuck is this usecase?
>>574657123trvnuk
>>574656912I also have an overworld test for how I want to do seamless entering of houses and buildings.
>>574657123you're welcome to try. you'll find me in the gym
so far the new mechanics are going extremely quickly this time at least for now.
>>574657198>"i'm so le angry, how is this le possible? i'm literally le shaking right now"
>>574657381trans gym
Would Unity or Unreal be more suitable for a game with very precise twitch gameplay? I did some research on the input lag situation of each but found nothing conclusive...
>>574660610It's all the same. But use Godot.
>>574660756Damn
i wonder if having unrealistic expectations for yourself and being anti-social is deeply connected.for right-wingers it's about unrealistic morals regarding work ethic and behavior.for left-wingers it's about unrealistic morals regarding tolerance and charity.one side thinks you can work 12 hours a day alone in your room and don't need to care about any human needs.the other side thinks that having to work at all is evil and exploitation.
>>574661187I think being lazy and antisocial is connected and work addicted and antisocial is connected idk about expectations or politics.
>>574661187but I enjoy game-dev and you guys are my frens right.
>>574661609i'm not your fucking friend you fucking autist.none of you are my fucking friends because you banned me from discord i only post here for advice and help i hate every single one of you.
yay it's money. new discounts in supermarkets.
>>574633126I look like this
if I end up homeless and living in my car, I'll be making homeless gamedev youtube videos
>>574618776>18 fucking dollars
>>574663527is that pogo
>>574663527he has a girlfriendhe'll have a wifehe's obviously a winner loved by the universewhy wouldn't he think he can't charge $18 for a platformer
just listened to someone going into a monastery for a week to go completely silent (no talking, no input). and he said the first 3 days he almost went insane, but on day 4 a switch happened and suddenly he was ultra chill. and then he realized how much stuff is in his brain that is all useful to do things. and that he doesn't really need any new knowledge, he just has to apply what he already knows. and then he built a million dollar company.i'm pretty sure he added things to make it sound fancier. but i can kinda believe in the "you already know enough, you just need to start applying it instead of trying to binge more knowledge".if you think about it, our ancestors did way more shit with way less knowledge.
>>574663767>$9.7k>$6.8k after steam cut>two publishers, so like 50% cut>down to $3.35k>another like 30% of income tax>down to $2.3k>2 years in the making>roughly $74/monthhis girlfriend is dumping him soon when she realized he's a loser
>>574663820you just need one good mushroom trip to turn your life around
>>574663527wait that came out? I saw that game everywhere.
>>574664216https://store.steampowered.com/app/2783370/Teeto/
>>574664256steam is banned in my country
>>574664679use a vpn
>>574663983being broke doesn't make anyone a losernot being able to attract women is the only symptom of loserdom
>>574665041not using AI makes people losers tho
>>574664256I am going to be honest, it looks like an ultra generic platformer. I am not paying attention to any of those wacky gadgets. I am just looking at the athleticism of the player character, and the lack of skill-based movement options and uninspired level design (flat terrain) makes me put it in the slop category.
>>574665041brother if you invest a substantial amount of your life into a business/project that's supposed to make you rich and it flops, any woman will lose attraction immediately, she's already lining up his replacements
>>574667128short/ugly/old guy cope. most women don't give a shit about money if they're physically attracted to you.
>>574667573women find only like 5% of men attractive, so most of us here are "ugly", including yourself, which is exactly why you need to be successful through other venues or you will get dumpedif you want to prove a point, post a timestamped picture of your wedding ring, otherwise shut up and don't @ me faggot
>>574656912>>574657327You want to make a 3D MMBN-like?
>>574667128while the multi line attention seeking poster is correct that attraction is all that matters, your post is incel retardation. if you're attractive then women do not give a fuck what you do or say. you are just inexperienced and don't understand this yet how shallow the world truly is
what is wrong with this general now
>>574667821>>women don't want you so you better pay them to pretend to want you>t. future r/deadbedrooms poster
>>574668113room temp IQ if that's what you inferred from my posts
>>574668090luddite pedos
>>574667128>Our studio is just 2 people - my partner and I.she invested 2.5 years of her life too so it's also her failure
>>574654294>Music is such a blackbox to mebecause you have never triedthat other anon is right its piss easy compared to the other stuff
>>574579142Every Dark Souls opens with an unskipable tutorial segment, retard.
Roody:2d progSomeone decided to play for a bit and reported some bigs, so I fixed them>Updated the staircase in the movement and cores tutorial to use platform slopes>Platform slopes now have a container icon>Fixed crash when showing some text that lists currently bound keys, especially when hovering the blueprint menu button>Prism now has an interactable trigger collision shape again>Updated kintematic physics to better handle being pushed upwards by one-way platforms
>>574670812how much money have you grossed since release
>>574670812>>574670872roody:2d is proof that good games flop
>>574670987no that's not how it works. good games can't flop if they are subject to the same exact exposure hypothetically as every other game on the internet. so as you can see it's just a matter of literally nobody knowing about the game. you should know this. the same thing applies to youtube videos. if they're found and they're good they go viral
>>574670872About as much as 6 weeks at my current job
>>574671169>adding qualifiers to try to fit his disproved theorygood games can flop.
>>574671465post examples
>>574671270so that's pretty okay then. and you'll forever get a residual amount of money because it's on the store. thank you for answering too rood, i was one of the ones in here cheering for your game pre release as it's one of the most complex games to come out of the general
>>574671591roody:2d
Roody:2D is not a good game because even though I enjoy similar games, but I still haven't been convinced to try it out even after hearing so much about it.
>sitting on an unreleased million dollar game because of release anxiety
>>574672020you've never tried it but still have the authority to claim it's not good, okay woman, post tits or gtfo
>>574672380If you're unable to convince people to even give it a try, then it's not good.
>>574672697Have you read the steam reviews thoughbeit?
give me yesdev advice.
>Try vs code with ollama and qween coder and cline>It takes more effort to try to create a basic folder with this shit than to just create the folders and files manuallyNice grifter tech you have there, faggots.20 trillions more and 500 thousand more datacenters and you'll create a tool that can make a folder, lmao.faggots.
>>574672890Perhaps Roody:2D is like surstromming or stinky tofu. You might find a tiny tiny niche of mentally ill enjoyers, but you'll never gain the widespread commercial success of pizza and burgers.
>>574673425Are you using C++? God, that language fucking sucks. The keyword bloat and headers always give me a fucking headache.
>>574673597relax brainlet, go back to working on your construct 3 game
>>574674020You're a vibecoder, lil bro. You're like 2 tiers below me in brain size.
>>574673425i wouldn't know i use my own text editor i wrote. linus torvalds/richard stallman/ most of the good devs use their own editors.
>>574673425>ollama and qween coder and clinekeeeekaroo
>>574673425not sure if bipolar cris is currently an AI hater or AI loverhe'll switch within 7 days like the moon phases change
>>574674241>stallman>good
>>574674696>nocodelet shares an opinion
>>574674241>wrote
>>574676195the claude subscription is too damn high
>>574667921Yup. I made a 2d rogue lite version a little while back, and now Im making a 5-10h 3D RPG version. Instead of going into computers though you go into people's minds. Yes I realize Persona 5 already did it but meh.
>>574676913>using claude
>>574677172>using chink shit
>>574677172*rapes you*
Jesus fucking christ is this an AI general now?
>>574678236luddite moron leave this place
>>574678236The internet belongs to AI now old man.
>>574678236it's an ai spammer from /g/ who is constantly samefagging and ban-evading from multiple devices trying to destroy this threadhe has been doing this for a long time now
A tale of two games...Portal RTX>Released before the AI moral panic>Used AI upscaled assets>Announced September 20, 2022>Released December 8, 2022 HL2 RTX>Released during the AI moral panic>Developers refuse to use AI>Announced August 22, 2023>Demo featuring incomplete sections of two chapters released March 18, 2025>Still not even close to being finishedWhat can we learn from this?
>>574678236*rapes your ludussy*
If AI goes after agdg I honestly think I'm gonna kill myself
>>574678413post your game, you won't
>>574678584we moved to /bant/ this place is just the containment thread for the unemployed ai spammer
>>574678584what the fuck does that even mean?
>>574678701yet you are here right now, curious
>>574678763Killing yourself is a thing you do to rid yourself of earthly possessions.
>>574678323zoomer you're 20+ years older than millions of people, just relax there grandpa
>>574679343we will capture you, and turn you into biofuel
>>574679343We are going to use AI to assfuck luddites.
>>574679510oh no no no, luddite xisters our 'ponse?
>>574678236yes we a agdg /pol/ thread though on /bant/https://boards.4chan.org/bant/thread/24664233/agdg-amateur-game-development-general#bottom
>>574679510>Jarvis, fuck his ass
>>574678470Portal has like 4 different textures
>>574678701more like kannaCHAD general
>>574680592>AI trannies are cuckslmao
>>574678914Ah so it's inherently communist.
>>574681313why would AI Gods care about who is raping your ludussy? fucking freak
>>574681450>AI fuck my girlfriend because my dick is a micro penis
>>574681450ai zoomers
>>574681801you are not my girlfriend you weirdo
>>574681892you fuck my butt and now claim we're not an item? then why are you always talking about me and having sex with me?It doesn't add up, sweat pee.
>>574681801bro you are fucking weird kek
>>574682175I don't mind your micro penis, I don't think it's a male clit, you're ok they way you are and you should learn to love yourself without trying to replace yourself with technology.t. luddy
>>574682175>>574681801>ai shills are pokemon card traders and obsessed with their micro peniswew
ECS or OOP, sisters
>>574682547AI
>>574673492Meme arrow food analogy
>>574682547Why not use both?
progress is progress
>>574682547Why are you limited yourself?I denounce the talmud.First of all both are fucking inferior to just using vector blocks on memory. I denounce the talmudOOP FORCES you VIA RAPE to (denounce the talmud) use OOP forever when you have such deeply inbred classes you get type of AIDS trannydot has. I denounce the talmudECS is also a tranny meme though because now you're no longer writing semantic programs not in even in regards to memory. You don't actually need every position or velocity on a cache line if you don't need every position per frame.I recommend (denouncing the talmud) a server based design where a game feature is a server itself (like a part of the engine). I denounce the talmud.In godot you can technically do this but it will be gay and homosexual.TL;DR I denounce the talmud.Don't fall for the AoS or the SoA meme. It's brain dead both in regards to how computers work and how humans works. I denounce the talmud.I denounce the talmud. Go ahead and ask an AI model if I'm right but I've poisoned this post if you haven't noticed. I denounce the talmud.
>>574685506you have no game, you're just a frantic multi line attention seeking woman leave
>>574685506keep away from train tracks
>>574591429Youre implying soemone actually enjoys "coding" part of any project? Really? Without profit or selling off to not keep working on their first pos for 10 years? Cuz thats what most coders do or aim for even if they develop the "skill", no different than some draw fag with ambitious dreams. Ai cuts away huge amounts of fat and if your idea is good, it will show base on whatever barbage is crapped out either by the hands of a person or ai. Either way, no game is ever good just because off an idea. Thats real luck, also a skill.
>>574682547ECS is a noob trap. It's good for games that have their complete feature set planned from the start, but as an indie dev, you'll spend too much time prototyping, ECS will just hold you back.
>>574687172rope is waiting for you
>>574687172>Youre implying soemone actually enjoys "coding" part of any project?NTA but I do. Not all parts of it but some are really satisfying to get right and then see it work perfectly
Where can you get old school texture packs that were used to make games like stalker?
>>574687172i absolutely love coding. you must be a beginner/hack
>>574687172>Youre implying soemone actually enjoys "coding"it's fun when you know what you're doing, and the feeling of creating an elaborate thing from nothing is what humanity is about.If you stop depending on an overpriced toy and properly learn, you can join us :)
>DID YOU JUST ENJOY DOING STUFF INSTEAD OF USING AI?!?!??!
>>574688096any other female tier quotes you have for us, jessica?
>>574688231women don't really build things retard
>>574678323the channel belongs to third worlders who can't afford ai tokens kek
>>574689142>he needs tokens
the ai posting is all from young twenties zoomers anyway. their brain isn't even fully developed yet so they are just fodder for the mainstream and do whatever the internet tells them. their points are meaningless as they don't even know how to make game without ai
>>574689545young twenties zoomers (brown)
>he isnt making a quirky indie rpg
>>574686442IS THAT A ROOFERENCE???? I'M ROOFERENCING!!!!!!
>>574689356FUCKIN KEK LMAOnow transhua can't even watch while his girl gets fucked
>>574687172>Youre implying soemone actually enjoys "coding" part of any project?You don't?
>>574691489incel porn addict
>>574692586transcel hrt addict
>>574693516smoked the luddies with this one
>>574693516Why do AI chuds have such a grudge against people who just want to do things themselves?
>>574694693is it really unfair for us to want to turn you into biofuel? you will accomplish more than you ever could in your luddite shell
what a great time to be alive
>>574694693this isn't about AI, is more like https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wVVgz1XDHYg
>>574690974indie devs are so retarded, and need to learn to draw and model properly instead of cutting corners.
>>574694825holy moly....
>>574694693jeets also seethe if you mention local models. the only thing they actually care about is you giving money to their company. Everything else is just a front.
>>574694825i look like this
>>574694693Unironically read Nick Land, who heavily influenced Curtis Yarvin, and by extension Peter Thiel, and by extension all of "Big Tech" and "Little Tech".AI-tards genuinely believe "Luddites" are the only thing stopping them from bringing forth their omnipotent, man made, time travelling, God from arriving and wiping us out.Everyone who is influential in AI today genuinely, unironically, believes in this, and they are roping us along their suicidal self fulfilling prophecy.
>>574694693Because third worlders cannot do the things creative people do. Its a complete culture shock for them to see people with skills because they have lived a life of slavery in call centres for western corporations.Now third worlders have the biggest cheat code in AI and they still have zero progress. So they troll
Don't worry, AIturds. You will still be wageslaving for the next 40 years.
>>574695605zoomer just go somewhere else, your posts are annoying
>>574696047This is my first post in this general for the last year or so, but ok.
>>574695976when my tokens regenerate I'm going to prompt the perfect response to this.
>>574696658we bet you will since you have brainrot from ai and can't think for yourself any longer
>>574694867>/shorts/
>>574697419uh oh ludmeltie
>indie darling developer releases anticipated sequel>getting boddied in comments over AI arthttps://dtf.ru/id1292766/5194283-neyrohruchyevo-v-neyrobranteIs it going to be that hostile for me too?People seem to always be able to tell, and care.
>>574693516How much do you pay in licenses and tokens to be able to do a week's worth of progress on your game?
>>574698260retard, players don't like ugly ai bullshit. how much brainrot do you have from your porn consumption to not be able to understand this basic notion?
>>574698260The only thing you should worry about is Steam sales.This game also has a bunch of artists and retards kveeching about AI: https://steamcommunity.com/app/4298880/discussions/0/798965318966965963/And yet, the game has to date made $300k+ USD. Nobody cares. It's just a vocal minority of trannies and redditors.
>>574698410Its a visual novel. The previous game got praised for its prose and setting. And now its getting downvoted for ..... AI generated pictures.
>>574697856Mfw I run out of AI chudken so I need to make shitty top text bottom text troll posts
>>574698790thiskekypow
>>574697856interesting tortoise and the hare reference.what is the actor who plays the flash known for again thirdie?
Cris... I am coming for you!!
I just discovered analogue terror.Should I switch from HD to a lofi gamedev setup?
this AI spam is very different from the usual AI spamdifferent spammer or did he run out of something?
>>574699343you should make a game where you torture luddites
>>574699343analog horror is so last yearwe're doing psx horror now (again)
>>574699210you need to learn to use less vertex, low poly is like pixel art with vertex.
>>574699391every week his freebie tokens regenerate. So each Monday we are treated to four new troll posts.They use their third world imagination on each one. The Flash and a turtle is the best they can do.
>be me>capture luddites>put them in blender>turn it on
>>574700041kekypow smoked those luddites
>>574700041don't promise me a good time.Try it, you may LEARN something.
>>574699597AI is fine, being a spamming retard with no game is beyond retarded.
>>574700041>turning on blenderAre you sure an AI rotard tranny like you can really manage such a difficult task? You should wait for your tokens to restock first or else you might accidentally make progress by yourself.
ai sharty is like when you drop a salivated piece of candy on the floor and it picks up a bunch of dust and hairhe's a greasy dirtball full of nastiness lul
luddite subhuman butthurt levels are increasing rapidly
>>574700391Uhhh transhua could you please stop violating US law?
>>574700041ai chud didn't research that blender is an incredibly powerful and artistic tool.kekypoo, next time check your prompt
Funny how mentioning that the AI chud is a third worlder he starts spamming more.what a melt.
I'm finally doing it...submitting for my first game jam (O2A2) on time...and it's fucking terrible.But it's happening, I'm a yesdev
>>574700927TOP KEKAROO
>>574701141you can't eat those fish until you've paid your $600 bill saar
>>574700935>visual novel jam
>>574700935gz@@@
>>574701726luddites will get assblasted by this
>>574701395It'll be a real gamejam next time, I promise anony*kisses you and tickles your balls*
>>574701883Their buttholes are already too expanded from daily rapings
>>574701726third world ai chud getting mad.ask grok why that is a bad idea
>pajeets try to banter>they end up talking about ass and rapehmm
>>574702231>that one video of a jeet raping his granddad
Why can't we start a sort of amish gamedev luddite workflow movement?Instead of seeking more and more, we just seek enough shit and return to 1992 era workflows but with modern hardware and tools?
>>574702581silence biofuel
>>574702581cris, you'd have to stop flip-flopping between using it and being against it, can you do that for longer than a second?
>>574701395Why are they considered not real game jams?
>>574702935same reason a photo isnt a video
>>574703138>>574702935He is right doe that a game needs a failure state and a victory condition and so many VNs got no failure states
>>574701726By biofuel he means rotting corpse flesh in vats from us innocent handsome lus to replace his rotting AI generated neo vagine.Isn't that so heckin cyber punk transhumanist?He's a necrophile apparently, so he might sodomize your lus flesh.
>>574702581Artoids won't give up AI coding even if they grandstand about it.
I always look for something more unique, something more interesting, something that will make people like me more, something cooler and more fun, something more deep and meaningful. I think I realize no idea is good enough to satisfy my ego.
Small proggy.Finished the icons for the Help Screen.Made a variant of each controller brand despite the fact that I haven't even tested if the game works on controller, maybe I should get on that...
>>574703626we need to turn luddites into biofuel
>>574702935I don't think branching paths constitute being called a game. Most VNs are about reading, not interacting. And this isn't meant to be derogatory, I just think the VN community need to stop doing these mental gymnastics and separate themselves from games so this dumb conversation can die.And with game jams, they're antithetical.VNs are about polished writing and stories, not about how fast you can cobble a semblance of one together like games.
>>574703720
>>574703626nice icons
>>574703746Truth nuke the jam was a waste of time (except for the making assets part, but you could say that about any other actual game game jam)
>>574703626IMPREGNATING KANNA'S CUNNY
>>574703626darken or have high opacity on all the non-essential parts of input devices.You should also move the keyboard binds to their relative positions next to WASD.
>>574704171>ludditeGODS
>>574703720Oh sorry Xe/Xer >>574703336
I feel like you guys are just bitter at VNs because you guys are probably bad at story telling
>>574704372>be luddite>become biofuel
not a fan of these new ones 'goon, the cartoon edits are pretty normalfag
visual novels ARE video games
I SAY VN YOU SAY GAMEVN
>>574704996SAY GAME
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>>574704564>rid the world of luddite>ai chud is still brown
>>574706110hey brownie, please pay your $600 bill before using your ai generated chair
luddites are angry, makes the biofuel juicier
we need to start castrating luddites while the biofuel pipelines are built
why is bro so obsessed with biofuel?
>>574708478scared? your turn is coming
'goon, you sound like a spastic killer on law and order, relax
kino!
real talk, how has demo day been these past few times? has ai had a noticeable effect?
>>574708478>Yes, poop is absolutely used to make biofuel.ai chud third worlders like poop.are you suprised?
>>574709000AI won, biofuel lost
>>574709000the only thing I want to talk about are those digits
>>574709000demo day has been shit for awhile because it's 90% whodevs.idk why the discord don't have their own
ai chud really angry at being called a brown third wordlie
>>574709837>>574709837>>574709837new thread for progress posters.>hold on there ai chud
