Cake LOVEMain website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/enWiki: https://relink.gbf.wiki/>FAQsBase game FAQ: https://rentry.org/RelinkFAQER DMG rundown: https://rentry.co/ytczavom>Patch 2.0.2 detailshttps://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/>Send your feedback herehttps://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedbackPrevious Thread: >>574558076
Gays not welcome
I'm always out of fortitude crystals transcending all these weapons this sucks
>Spartan Echo Bubs + War Elemental Goldslime in the same quest rewards
>>574612560yeah bro and they both had 100% cap up too
>>574612502you'll be out of grand refinium 1 and 2 and then defender ragnites soon
Save her
Seofon having unprotected sloppy harem sex with every girl of the Granblue cast in his room on the Grancypher every night, every hole, all night long. All the other men can hear them.
>>574612680kill the donkey
where do these random ass cuckposters even come from
Lets all love Zeta
>>574612865anon have you literally seen this game? It's the horniest franchise ever.
>>574612865>1 guy and shitposters feeding into ithappens
>>574612865/gbfg/
Any zeta players here? How good is the counter master trait?
Bea's ass?
>>574613214cracked
>>574612739Fediel belongs to Danchou
bros I believe in Bea's DPS but I've come around to the fact that her burst damage during the phases that matter just isn't where it needs to be
Zane or Gallanza? For tanking purposes.
>>574613692>zaneoh shit new character?
>>574613692You mean Vane? I haven't played him but fwiw, I've been having some issues with Gallanza in Chaos++. I loved him up to this point, but his damage feels so low and it's frustrating needing to manage stacks of constantly depleting buffs. It takes a really long to ramp up damage too. I was actually considering switching to Vane or Captain because of their support capabilities.
>>574613621She's mid tier, stop dooming for fucks sake. Why are so still so stuck on this? You can clear with her.
Starting to think substitute is the real DPS tree for danchou
>>574613692not sure what you mean by tanking, if you mean covering your teammates, that's captain or sieg, if you mean unkillable that's ferry
>>574613621doko
I gotta say, I'm shocked that they haven't tried selling costumes for this game yet
Is there any way to get the ultra-wide fix working at 1440p, it only removes the black bars when I set it to 4k. I even set the custom resolution and other things you'd try while troubleshooting this in the .ini settings so something is up here.
>>574610997ggs
>>574613692anyone can tank but those with higher dps/less mandatory sigils can afford it more
Doing Infinity Beelzeblud again looking for good summon stones. Password: niggaSession ID: 5MDB WA7S MA46 V5YG
>>574612131It really is criminal that she didn't get into either Relink or Rising. She's basically the most Monster Hunter-esque character in all of GBF and her mode change mechanic would've fit well in either game...
>>574615093Image just in case I fucked up typing the session ID in.
>>574615093Ghandabro...
we cool now?
>matchmake and depart for quest>stuck on loading screen for 2+ minutesis this just some toasterbro or did something bug out. Do I have to alt+F4?
>>574615093Need one more...
Fraux's fate story was extremely cringe
>>574615410>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stun Power Up +15
>>574615410That's the second best passive you could get on it, congrats
>>574615478It lacked the implied gang rape and forced imprisonment she used to have as her backstory.
>>574615172Theres alot of these great sarasa images im seeing for the first time
>>574615478Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios Muh Rios
Muh doritos
>>574615574
>>574615984>3/4
Why does my terminus weapon only have catastrophe and not catastrophe nova?It says "complete" so I cant transcend it further.Also, my fully transcended stinger is much stronger, so idk if I should even switch to terminus even if I had the nova version, but apparently it has 500% dmg cap?
>>574616089I do be making that face when somebody doesn't have auto-skip enabled, yes.
>>5746151721. She's a cow (boring and small)2. Too complicated.
>>574616173are you still progressing through the DLC?
What are the comfiest "immortal" characters? Fediel, Id, Vas, am I forgetting anyone?
>>574616283ferryhttps://youtu.be/cfyNgaWfjO8
>>574616264I guess?
bubs drop bers and spartan or just spartan? ive only been getting spartan
>>574616480Luci is spartan, or an ice dragon
>>574616480Luci or the Ice dragon for zerk eco
How viable is soloing up to at least all of Chaos++? As in, without any AI party members and without the broken characters or builds.
>>574615093full?
>>574616480Spartan - BubzBerserker - LuciliusWE - Rolan/LilithStout Heart - Behemoth
The dlc character we need
>>574616557Probably viableI think only infinity difficulty has very short time limits for the boss fights
Do you give your AI party terminus weapons or just ascension/defender?
>>574616637We SHOULD have gotten Ilsa instead of Eustace.
>>574616557beelzebub will be a challenge.As you will have to break his stun barrier at 15% THEN do 15% of his health in like 2 minutes.I've done it but it took a lot of effort.
>>574616698It's more convenient to level terminus and the demerits don't affect the AI.
>>574616698Only gave terminus to 3 characters do far, and unfortunately one of them was vaseraga before I knew that his AI is unbelievably bad
>>574616650>>574616816I'm more worried about the gimmicks like DPS checks or every single part of the big boss combos targeting one spot. Bursting down all THE WORLD's cards as one example, but also regular things like Pyet or Bahamut Versa instant loss DPS checks.
>>574616945I mean, I was mentioning exactly that. Beelzebub's check is by far the meanest one in the game, for solo at least.No link time or SBA burst to cheese, you'll have to fight a super aggressive overdrive bubs spamming red orbs on your ass and take 15% of his health AFTER depleting a huge stun bar by yourself.
>>574616630Spartan also drops from the Black Dragon but bubz its so consistent with it that theres no pointFire Dragons has Stout Heart too but its way easier to flash farm for Behemoth
>>574616637wtf I love lich now
Put her in Relink Cygames
I'm too nervous to ever try bubz onlineThere's just something about getting knocked off the ledge that if it ever happens in public I don't think I could ever recover from it...
>>574617336Don't be. I've completed bubs with a dude that literally got to max HP cap down, and in most attempts there's atleast one or two people with HP cap down.
>>574612131Who is this and why is she called cake?
Infinity bubs farm for summonI'm a shitter so fair warningID: 4DFD 78UD 5923 D76LPW: guraburu
>>574614028About the only reason I can think that anyone would consider insight the DPS tree is that it doesn't force you to spend a skill slot(or two since combat medic and substitute have good reason to run 2 utility skills) on a specific type of skill, otherwise its bonuses are worse in comparison
>>574617205they would never put lammy in I'm sorry brother>>574617495sarasa (#3) of the eternals. she likes cake, thats it
>>574617717I don't get it
>>574617850The joke is she's always drunk
>>574616698Terminus. I run stout heart so the extra HP from ascension just gives them more chances to run in like an idiot instead of being the defensive gods they usually are
>>574616590Full, sorry bro.
>>574617043My bad. I've only fought him once, and I didn't recall one of those stun check phases. Probably because I was just desperately dodging.
>>574617495It's a reference to her fate episode in grub gacha
>>5746176303/4
>>574617850she's a nun from a monastery that makes liquor who likes liquor so much she drank their whole stash and left in shame to be a drunkard elsewhere (she goes back and they dont really care)
These Chaos++ fights beyond the World and Infinity really suck. So many fucking attacks, ground clutter, bosses always jumping everywhere across the arena. Everything hits for 200k+, healing potions heal for like 10% of your HP and aren't even worth using. Every build runs the same traits, and the "flexibility" and "variety" comes from the maybe 2 sigils you can swap out from the suite of literally necessary ones. And on top of it all, I feel like I need to switch to a ranged character, but there are only like five of them.Skill issue, I know, whatever. Pic related. We've scaled this game as far as it can possibly go. Still, I wish it was all a little more elegantly designed.
>my terminus upgrade won't be until after infy hexa>This means my endgame Friday and fully upgraded weapon are after all the hardest challenges Why?
>>574618048>>574617896Gross
>>574618112>1
>>574618109They've mentioned there will be updates and base game also got the real final challenge some time after release rather than at release.
>>574617735I need to lick ALL of that
>>574618109Because you only get 2 rocks on your first clear and there are 4 people in your party
Best quest for Grand Refinium II?
>>574617717Nyo...my Drunken Fist fighter....
I built up Fraux and put her in my party against Infinity Bubs. Don't give her Dead Lands, I know that's one of her best damage skills, the AI just whiffs and holds it when enemies jump out of the way.
>>574618846slimes
>>574612928is the fighting game any fun for people who just don't give a shir about muh punch man games? I'd play the campaign if it exists
>>574619071nyooo I dyon't wyant tyo...
>>574619284KEEP SLIMING, SLAVE
>>574615093Sorry I think there was a power surge or something. All my shit went out for a second. I'll let someone else have my spot though. ggs to you and all the other anons!
>>574618106This, but the exact opposite. I need Lucilius on crack and in permanent Overdrive after Sandalphon insults his gay haircut.
>>574619262I didn't play Rising but Versus had a substantial campaign with a ton of characters and it was very casual friendly. There were RPG mechanics too which buffed specific skills. The general gameplay is also easier than your average fighting game input-wise. So I dunno. I fucking hate playing fighting games but I actually enjoyed it. Ended up platinuming it.
>>574619567rising removed most of that
sad they didn't add steam cards, i wanted a new background of ferry or naru
>>574619567I hope they keep adding these sexo women in the game provided they aren't total balance mishaps like some of the characters (ferry)
>>574619680oh. Cool
>>574619350No problem. We finished it with bot narmaya.One slot left for Infinity Beelzeblud, looking for good summon stones.Password: niggaSession ID: 5MDB WA7S MA46 V5YG
>>574619262Rising's story mode is pretty cool but the I prefer the RPG mode in GBVS. I honestly like their silly little survival mode as well. Oh and GrandBruise mode is pretty fun when you can get a session going. I think Rising is pretty high up there when it comes to single player/side content.
>>574619680The consequences of making the game more streamlined for FGCfags who just wanna play online and don't give a shit about anything else. Such is the fate of almost every fighting game in the modern decade...
Bubs fears the old man.
my success rate with infinity Luci is at about 25% which fight has the same loot table in terms of summons? I don't wanna fight this anymore until they patch the visuals density
>>574619927Cog is actually Bubz's boogeyman. He will never forget being completely humiliated and imprisoned by him in WMTSB.
>>574617698the charisma buff from max stats is insane and makes up for it all, the only problem is actually get all 10 stacks but thankfully i normally coop with a friend
>>574619927Damn that's hot. And Cagliostro is pretty cute too, I guess.
>>574620370
>>574620090Infinity The World? Have fun and fightInfinity Bubz? Have fun and fightInfinity Lucy? AFK screen vomit trash fightEasy.
>>574619350:)
>>574617630Apparently, the lobby exploded and I'm stuck on "connecting..." when I'm trying to make a new one.Gonna relaunch the game and try again, sorry bros
>>574620514Well, AFK Chaos++ I mean.
>>574620370>you have it all wrong
>>574620564Yeah it diedStill cleared with the bots though lol
>>574618278Did they really say there would be updates?
>>574620564New session, still bubs infinity farmMr Fix ID: DU52 5D9L D67F 8L74PW: guraburu>>574620686There is no doubt in my mind that my Sieg bot perform way better than I do.
There's nothing manlier than impregnating an old man inhabiting a cute, fertile young girl's body.
>>574621182Cog doesn't have a womb bro its canon
>>574620854Full?
>>574621343That can be fixed with alchemy.
>>574620854Question, when do you guys start spamming SBA?I usually use it before he performs Langelaan Field so we can enter link time once we break his shield, but I'm not sure if this is the correct timing
>>574618109In the base game Terminus was basically x4 times the damage than any other weapon. Now, while still better, the gap is not THAT big, which allows you to be a god with 500k HP and still do decent damage. You have to keep in mid, it only gets a single swappable skill while other weapons get 2 with a way better pool of skills to choose from, like Ascencion can replace its default HP skill for a Supplemental lvl 25
why does every nearly good wrightstone i find have fucking crit rate as the 3rd stat STOP IT GIVE ME SOMETHING USEFUL
>>574621182>>574621401Cog's fate episode in this game has her stress that her homunculus body is incapable of getting pregnant. It's over bro.
Katalina seems like the only character that needs a real buff. Everyone else can be competitive even if it might require a clunky way to play but Katalina is just a fucking mess
>The world>Versa>Six dragonsGood enough that I can do good damage and rarely die (enough that I always have autorevive or a revive potion ready)>BeelzebubMostly good, but sometimes I clown and get a bad run.>LucilliusTurn into a brain damaged Bea and die constantly, never done this fight a single time without eating up a notable chunk of the critical gaugeHow do I Luci bros. I wanna stop jobbing...
>>574621874Don't worry everyone jobs in that fight
This is an old man.
wtf is Beel's zigzag colored line attack? I saw the red one so I blocked but got choked anyway. do they not obey the same rules as orbs?
I wish air combos were actually a useful tool. Seems like Zeta is the only one that gets something out of it since the air combo can put her into a loop
Crazy how people are already bored and everything is solved. Good thing I didn't bother with the DLC.
>>574621763Because its a homunculus body, she can transmute an actual fully functional human body with a philosopher stone which she, claims, can indeed synthesis. Problems being that not only is bothersome to do so but theres no many reason to even craft one in the first place.
>>574622108>Everyone is still playing>Even hosting lobby is this thread>"I'm glad I didn't play and none of you is playing anymore"blindbro...
>>574622039They are the same as the orbs, red has to be blocked and yellow has to be dodgedGuard canceling an attack comes out slightly slower than dodge canceling so there's a good chance you tried to cancel an animation into it and he tagged you before the game let your block it. It happens to me all the time.
>>574621763my doujins say otherwise
>>574621538No clues, I know there's an order but I can never remember it, I usually let anons take the lead when I lobby it up with them>>5746208543/4 again.Thanks for playing Zetabro.
They should add dokkan in this game so we can get placenta handjob again
>>574622074Ghanda can use his to build quick 5 stacks, can him out of trouble when in the need of quick stacks.Gallanza skill spamming uses combo finisher to reduce CDs, when he enters the no armor mode, he loses all his ground finishers and only way to do use that mechanic is to do the air combo.I think Yoda can enter his finisher from it too
>>574622270Playing for no reason and wasting time.
>>574621538I don't think it matters too much, with either order you end up with a link time or a full burst at 15%, it's usually enough to kill him either way
>>574620408Yeah its probably a bit random to hit max stacks online. The AI though can be tricked into taking hits with stout heart
I'm stuck on the story version of The World, it keeps matching me with people that haven't leveled their master traits past 10 or 20. Maybe I should just go solo with the AI.
>>574622484GGs still no good bub summon
>>574622531Just like every other digital toy you play with!
tfw I perfect guard the world's quickening
>"nobody is playing">*gets btfo'd*>"w-well you guys are actually just wasting your life on this game, ha gotcha!"
why are you even giving the other thread retard attention? he doesn't play this game
lobby glitching out. i don't know why. it's playing town music in and i can't do anything
>>574619838screen froze so i had to alt f4 on treasure select, another anon can take my spotthanks for the games ggs
Well we got a free spot for Beelzeblud if anyone wants to take it.Password: niggaSession ID: 5MDB WA7S MA46 V5YG
>>574623398same thing happened to me but the other two were fine, weird bug
I think it's lame that the two gbf spinoff games don't have different classes for danchou that's like the whole gimmick of gbfcan you imagine what glorybringer would play like or lumberjack. pisses me off that we're stuck with the lamest possible version of danchou we can get like what are we gonna do cast miserable mist???
a nice & pleasant party of cuties :3
>>574623601i've had it bodylock me a couple times in the past when accepting quests, weird ass gamedidn't even get any loot from that last run aieeeeee
Should I just focus on transcending ascension weapons for CPUs or are they good with terminus? do I still have to build them with low HP?
I've never perfect guarded how hard is it to do that against quickening
>>574623396>connectingunplug your internet cable if you don't want to alt+f4 and lose your rewards
>>574623853it takes a bit to get used tohe has an audio queue for when to perfect guard but you need to delay yourself by a fraction of a second unless you have ojisan reflexes
>>574623853easy enough with practicethere's a visual cue that you can base your timing on
Hi!I'm a bit confused with Endless Ragnarok. Is there a story? I watched the scene where Maglielle and Gallanza joins but I don't know where to go next. I did one quest in the back alley and stuff.Been so long I dont really know what to do pls help
>>574624208Do all the marked quests.That's it.
>>574624208yes the story is just dialogue and cutscenes after doing the new queststheyre not very good and i skipped as much as I could because it was mostly just retreading lore from the browser game if you ever played that
IMPERFECTION IS THE KEY TO EVOLUTION
most feds actually still check if you have enough SBA or not sealed, this fag just fires his SBA off whenever
>>574624601anon.......it's a cpu.....host just has the "use SBA whenever" setting on
>>574624275>>574624312Do I have to redo some quests I missed from Relink updates? The last quest I remember finishing before quitting was Lucilius
>>574624674because he left the game you woofus
>The World does a fast punching attack at the groundcould this be a reference?
cpu
>>574624686you can just follow whatever it tells you to do in the top right cornerjust do the newest quests you have available, idk what else to tell you. it's very straightforward.
>>574624787>The world can stop time for mechanicsHmmmm
>first spartan summon since the last one in 90 beelzebubs>instead of the near-useless +1600 health one, this time it's a completely useless +22% crit rateT-thanks. Back to the mines again.
>>574624467i cant hear his dub va without thinking of glamrock freddy
>>574624836Ok ty
>>574623578cant find it
I despise this dumb fight.
Can I get 100% cap up bubz and Luci in chaos++?
>>574625554I think so
>>574625554what
>>574625579You sure?
Ok so you see how in the top right I have no objective right? I assume everything is done1/2
>>574625747go to folca
>>574625747But when I try to claim Seofon and Tweyen it says this.I have to progress the story. What story? I don't know where to go or what to do.2/2
>>574625781Oh thank you so much. Just got a cutscene. Thank you!
>>574624724and whoever is the leader of the session can set the AI that took his place into "hold SBA"....
>>574625969He's saying the fediel left after using her solo sba earlier in the matchAre you an esl?
>>574621763Just convince Cog to fake it by making a series of bodies with progressively bigger bellies.
what exactly is stacking here? the strength of the shield?
>>574625868Sort quests by DifficultyThen clear each quest in order going down until the game tells you to go somehwere and you follow the compass.
we are getting more updates right?
>Cag's shield stacks with healing cap>Io's shield from healing wind doesn'twho tested this shit!!!
whats a must skill in bubz i keep getting knocked off but i see ppl not being affected by black hole
Post the dps tier list I need to swap to a suboptimal character I'm sick of throwing balls
>>574620564>>574620854Robby crosedGot some shit to do.Thanks to everyone who participated, it was fun.I didn't get it...
>>574625959np anon have fun
>>574626172probably not
>>574626480there's firm stance but i personally dont use it
>>574626165Yeah. It also seems to stack with the base effect of her healer trait. Just with that skill equipped she will give you nearly max strength shield with a single Reinforce. It's very good, especially if you're running Ventus and can't get healed from her.
Dunno why the lobby is bricking again, but we've done like 30 bubzy's so that's probably a good time to put a cap on it. GG's boys.
>>574626646ggs.also use "ipconfig /renew && ipconfig /release" instead of alt+f4
>>574620854GGs.Sorry for kind of inting one run, I was getting sleepy but then I locked in again.
>>574626172Anonymous-dono...
are wrightstones from transmarvel rigged or somethingits always some shit like>Stun Power>Good Trait (Uplift/Cascade/Comfort Trait)>Utter Dogshit (Atk/Hp/Status Resist/Glass Cannon)
Any more lobbies up?
>>574626646GGs, bub had enough of getting bullied and exploded the lobbies...
>>574626869its just a matter of how lucky are you feeling today
>>574626754Bro it's cool, it's not like everything has to be 100% dick skin tight perfect all the time.
>>574626646ggs
>>574620854t>>574626520ggs friends. im feeling abit more confident in jeeta. also ive never seen 2 substitutes at once like that
Endless Ragnarok should have added the ability to run more than 4 skills. Would that have been so hard?
>>574626937what the fuck
>>574617438Okay I went online and you were right everyone was so much worse at the fight than me, and we ran out of criticalNow I will stay offline for other reasons...
Bubs if total shit garbage of a fight The only good part is that I know he's SEETHING at the fact that Belial's homosexual AIDS ass song is playing white you fight his fruity ass.
>https://www.twitch.tv/maygiiBehold google spreadsheet max dps build gameplay. Spends every fight laying on the ground.
>>574627210bro I didn't ask
>>574627210>the pink trannyReally?
>>574627210I'm glad she's still enjoying Relink at the very least.I remember liking her Io videos a couple years back.
>>574627210>80k hp>dies to everythingso this is how retards telling me to run optimized builds play the game
I'm stuck on the chaos++ seite song fight cause shitters keep standing in shit
Keep your tranny obsession to yourself
>>574627002It was kind of funny
>>574627210What are you doing here Saintontas?
>>574627550I'd offer to help you real quick but you know how it is
>>574627210>if you want to join - if you're m50 no terminus transcended allowed.but why.
>>574627808too many floortanks maybe?
>>574626562wow that makes it so easy
>>574627808probably doing some challenge runs
>>574627210You should know by now that every female content creator who speaks with authority on particular subjects is absolute shit
WEEEEEE IM A SLED
What's the best quest to farm Silver Centrums now?
Do you guys ever have issues with lock on? Like it just won't lock on to the thing next to you and just keeps locking on to the thing furthest away so you try to move it to the thing next to you but it moves to the thing behind you? It's driving me insane.
Take the cagpill
>>574628189i get like 40 from 4 dragons
>>574628189just farm your other awakening mats on fatebreaker quests and you won't even notice you have a pile of these common balls already
>>574622704He's not bad with AI. They aren't good at targetting the elemental dragons properly since they typically just fight the closest one, but you can lose the dragon DPS checks and still win easily. They are decent enough at the tarot cards, so long as (you) target the worst ones you'll be perfectly fine.I'm a friendless loser so I can't even imagine how stressful online quests must be during the last three big fights in the DLC, Beelzebub at least would be hilarious to see everyone getting command grabbed into oblivion.
>>574626937That's bad though.
>>574611910yeah spam y and do not break the combo, once you see the power swing button prompt the godmight meter has already been spent
>>574628354For most quests, even multi-boss quests things are usually manageable with some slight hiccups here and there.For Infinity Versa/Dark Swordsman's Nightmare specifically the camera goes absolutely nuts and keeps pingponging me between Versa's giant ass and the tiny annoying fly that is Id zooming all over the place. And no matter what settings I change it doesn't become any less insufferable.
I'm either misunderstanding the damage cap formula or there's something fundamentally wrong with how the dummy shows your capped amount >normal hit, shows 129% to 141% capped >about 158k raw numbers >cast The Black's Blessing (+15% ATK) >154-158% capped, implying I'm getting even more capped, i.e. raw damage should remain at the capped 158k value >raw number shows 168k per hit, an obvious after-cap increase I don't fucking know anymore man, they seriously need to revamp the language on atk/dmg shit
>>574628727Just stick to getting close to 100% while getting as much Damage cap as possible and thats it
>>574628354There was an awful bug with the camera where after a primal burst the game would refuse to lock off the boss until I entered the pause menu and spammed the lockon button afterany sort of offscreen movement also swings my camera once the boss moves out of view
>>574626869My favorite was getting HP 20 & Supp 15...with Berserker 10 as the last traitActual useless garbage brick skill, why does it even exist?
That's 10 attempts on chaos++ siete song and people just chain die once it gets to the final phase, no survival skills at all it's like they don't even know the game has a dodge button
>>574628835nta but are you serious? read his post in full before replying
Are Fediel players unaware that they are always making the boss Bloodlust because they keep solo CAIng
>>574628727combat buffs push your damage beyond cap now. they explain it in the patch notes.
>>574629024Not a Fediel main/metafag, but when does the game tell you that?
>>574629238That isn't even what he's talking about, read his post
is there an item that gives permanent 10 phalanx buff?
>>574629323I'm not sure the game tells you that jumping over waves is a thing, but people figure it out by playing easily enough
when am I supposed to SBA in beel? I can't get the feel for his fight still, its just a blur of blinding effects
>>574629406crabvestments return on summon, it grants a permanent 20% hp increase & 10% damage cut
>>574628429her skill reset build is fun but she only has like 2 good damage skills. and also does no damage
>>574629485Who drops?
>>574629425I don't think that's the same, since iirc the the base game basically outright tells you to only do a full chain and the DLC reinforces that with the Primal Burst stuff. Anyway I wasn't defending them, just curious since I had no idea.
>>574628727If you use the damage cap display mod, any defense debuffs and attack ups that are supposed to apply past the cap don't neutralize the value shown either, it just massively inflates those numbers to like 450-800%. This is a separate issue from none of it applying in overdrive, it's impossible to get a read organically when you're actually overcapping or when it's actually doing something beneficial.
>>574629325that is what hes talking about read his post
>>574629519You get it from collecting the crabs in the main story and giving them to the kid in Folca
>>574616630>>574617075How easy is it farming infinity solo when you have an AI team maxxed?I really dont want to be forced to have to grind with others when i eventually get to grinding that stuff.
>>574629624No, you're just misunderstanding the point. It's already common knowledge that it applies past the cap.
>>574627210cute!
>>574629702apparently not to him, you should reread the post
>>574629473idk people just full chained like 76% then 53% but apparently you can skip mechanics if you do it right>>574629485can't you grief terminus weapon users with this?
>>574629680Very easy; I've been clearing inf world in ~ 6 minutes if I land my parries, and bubs in about 7 minutes
>>574629652You dont get a summons from him.Well i dont think so, i already had them collected.I get wee pincer summons randomly from chests in the hubs.
>>574629804I didn't see that the other anon specified summon. Yeah the kid gives you crab Sigils.You can get crab sigils from picking up spots in town. I think they also drop from the Sumo Crab and Flavor Blast quests, the one with the flaming fish boss.
>>574629790That is good to know.I am of course not in a rush to get to "end game" and to me end game in this is grinding missions for bis summons.I am going through 1 character at a time doing every ER quest but because I need a full AI team and I also need rackham for slime farming i have stopped when I get them to 50 not doing infinity with them until i have 4 at 50, then will bump them to 55.On my 4th now.I got my main to 55 and did the infinity quests once.Once you get to 50 you stomp all the chaos quest easy anyway.
Infinity Bubz is miserable mostly because you get into a good flow for a minute or so and then you are forced to watch a cutscene where the boss says some bullshit, and there's like half a dozen of those in the fight. Just shit design LET ME PLAY THE FUCKING VIDEO GAME.
You wouldn't steal an old mans empty soulless body would you?
>>574629782No, the problem lies in the damage cap display. base damage dealt>150% cappedapplying a 20% attack buff that applies after the cap>displays as 170% cappedWorks as intended but doesn't display the numbers correctly. That's what he's confused about.
>>574629954>sigilsYou mean summons.The crabvestemnt sigil, well all crab sigils are a 1 time sigil only.
If I'm reading Spartan and Berserker Echo right, I can drop all my Supplementary Damage sigils for just 1 of these and have 100% chance for just 1 slot?
>>574629783It only works on yourself bro..
>>574629024I hit the boss and get mvp. That's it.
>>574630106each is a separate effect so you use them all at the same time
>>574630106No each supplementary damage is its own thing. Spartan gives you 20%. Then Berserk gives you another 20%. Then Supplementary gives you another 20%. So you want all three of them.
>>574630106you use both>>574630136they said summon
>>574630106Or you cna equip all of them at once and get 60% echoes
>>574630106No, you use all 3. And the crab sigil gives some too.
>>574629783No? I save points on the 15k hp mastery nodes and I get more defense, it's free real estate.>>574629519I don't remember, I think it was Infinity Lucilius? Or the white dragon in Chaos++.
>>574630106Supplementary Damage is separate from those two effects and they all stack, but they'll join into one bigger damage tick in battle. So basically if you can fit it more is better.
kek
>>574630285Using glass cannon is just griefing.
>>574629490What about the infinite collapse or super collapse ones? Since you can animation cancel basically all of her combos and out of collapse to start immediately again, wouldn't you rack up a ton of damage?
>>574628429i gave her alot of chances anon but when infi pubs tend to have 1 person griefing, griefing the room too running cog makes matters worse
is there a tl;dr summary of what mastery trees to take for each character?
>>574629024Then build your shit faster fucking scrub.
>>574630215Don't know why, the kid doesn't give summons as far as I remember since it's base game content. There could be a crab summon that has that effect, but if you use it that means you're already griefing yourself anyway.
>>574630695I hope Fediel gets nerfed to the ground just because of that.
>>574629612now that I think about it, even the raw numbers are bogus. 15% increase on a 158k post-cap hit should NOT be 168k. there's either a display bug with the "15% ATK up" spell or the damage up function is fundamentally wrong.
samefag
>>574630798I mean, how certain are you that you aren't inadvertently triggering an additional effect that alters the numbers without noticing?
I think the powerup from M30 to M50 is too big that M50 straight up deletes every bosses if they queue for M30 contents. This wasn't an issue in base game. At least queuing for Quick quest reduces my power level so I'm not ruining new players experience
>>574630939What would you trigger simultaneously in a fight or against the attack dummy to reduce your bonus damage dealt by 9%, nigga
>>574628948I changed characters and beat it first try. I think I have to admit my main just isn't good and I have to play someone else. The damage just isn't there.
>>574630285if this is the one that gets star barrage its funny
>>574630671Choose whatever you think is right for your playstyle.What you should do is set up 3 different loadouts, 1 for each tree.Some might be better for one boss, or the other.
>>574630671No, but you can add up each tree's cap/supp/dealt mods and that'll usually give you the answer because they're unbalanced as fuck.
>>574630695>scrubretard.Some character are ult batteries. Its the reason why cag was so strong in base game.though, as cag and i guess feidel, they should be running alpha, also every character should run at least 1 uplift.
Ok so I'm worse than I thought. Like I think I'm really bad.I'm trying to go through the quests I missed and doing them online in Proud and in less than a minute I consumed all my revive potions and eating up the emergency thing.Do I need to finish the quests in Proud before I can tackle Endless Ragnarok? It says rank up so I'm assuming it's going to be more difficult than proud....
>>574630939I can't think of anything. its literally normal hit vs normal hit with a buff, using the exact same gear
>>574630798Atk ups are additive with other atk up buffs.Also, they only give half their bonus as a cap up (a 15% attack up buff is a 7.5% damage increase)
>>574630943In base game having end game build, like full meta means you stomp maniac and stroll through all proud quests except behemoth, the 2 gauntlets and 2 lucillius (DLC quests)In ER, master 50 and you stomp all chaos quests except the post game gold quests.
>>574630798seems correct to meattack buffs/def down have 2 effects:1) they increase your pre-cap damage by the listed amount2) when a hit reaches cap, they apply half their listed amount to the enhanced multiplier (same as war ele/dmg %)
>>574630798ATK up and Def down effects are essentially halved and are added on top of other DMG (up arrow) sources like warpathsSo if you have 20% from a warpath that's 20 + (15/2) = 27.5So your original damage was158/1.2 = 131.67kWith your new multiplier it's131.67 * 1.275 = 167.875k
Who is the best AI support character in the team atm, is it still cag with heals and rez or is maggy better?
>>574631329this is so tiresome and its before even getting into the "which ATK wording is the one that goes over cap" riddle
>>574631054>>574631308I am not sure, I don't know every character or who you used. There's also the possibility that you just didn't account for the fact that damage numbers naturally vary by like 5-10% roughly in either direction, but I didn't want to assume.
For insight Siete, I'm SUPPOSED to permanently stay in Avatar mode, right? So I can keep gaining the buff, instead of unloading into an Avatar finisher that makes the buff go away?
>>574631529if it's a buff that has an icon that pops up in battle, it applies post-capatk up and def down buffs cap out at +50% to the enhanced multipierif the boss is in overdrive, the boost to the enhanced multiplier from atk up and def down is set to 0
>>57463174350% post reduction or 50% on paper (25% dps increase)?Also does it count warpath in the 50%?
>>574631738You unload the finisher to get the buff then immediately turn on the avatar and keep hitting and repeat your skills keep your avatar pool up so you never leave avatar mode while getting the buff
They ruined Charlotta... I don' t want to fucking plunge.
>>574631479Cagliostro's 50% damage cap up buff is still very valuable, and no one else can give that to you as far as I know.
>>574631479Cag is still top with her solid heals and 20% DMG upMaggy is only better at ressing really, doesn't provide any damageDanchou is also really good and can heal + damage buff about almost as good as Cag, or substitute and take all your damage for you
>>574631957You dont have to play her like a retard, you can just play her as intended before the warpath. She is still good outside of that shit.
>>574631295You can skip the last 4 since they're the last update for base game, and one of it is still hard by DLC standard
>>57463184350% post reduction so 100% in raw valuesno, this is only the maximum value that atk up and def down is allowed to contribute to the enhanced multiplierthe formula is you multiply your dmg% boosts by your war ele multiplier, then the increase from atk up/def down is additive to that
>>574631980>>574631989I seen a cag in a mission that was giving me a 99999 shield, is that one of her new mastery tree stuff?I ask because I will need a healer/buffer for my AI. I want to set up AI so I am capitalising on a the buffs I can so at least 1 of every AI has a unique buff the others are not giving.
>>574631843Up to 100% sum of attack up/def down to a max of 50% increase damage that adds to your warpath and other sources of DMG (up arrow)Warpath does not count to the 50%, only the buff/debuff part gets capped at 50%, and only this buff/debuff part becomes 0 for no effect when the boss is in overdrive
>>574632117Yeah Cag has a new talent that transforms her entire heal into a shield which is really good because Celestial Ventus is a meta sigil and disables heals from allies, but her shield is fair game and still works
Farming Bub for a bit, how are you supposed to react to the orbs when he starts spamming them towards the end of the fight if you are in the middle of overhead attacks?
>>574631957Does spin really not work post ER? Doesn't the parry master trait buff spin?
>>5746319802000+50 damage cap woah
>>574632210It works but her jump dive does more damage than spin, same retarded shit but no more spinning, I think that is what anon means y lunge, She dives vertical down instead of spinning.
>>574632278It's harder to play her now though, those plunges miss easily.
>>574632184it's hard to react, but if you block/dodge correctly then he gets briefly staggeredthe play is to delete his ass with link time & sba before he goes rampage
Does Bea even change clocks on full auto? I wanted to try her out for an afk farm but she just stayed in yellow the entire time.
>>574632557That is why you just do a mix of either. Also that spin to win shit is cancer, you dont need to play her like that. It wasnt the intended way to play her anyway it was just her warpath that made it an option and it is optional.
>>574632256The 50% damage cap is whatever, it's the 20% damage increase from her EX mastery that's nice
chaos++/infinity lobbyCR7X 5TTT 8N5C 0LW8pass: vidya
Does anyone even bother doing the conflux?just doing the ER missions once drop all that you need to level the weapons anwyay.
>>574632985Yeah you'll get your character's weapon just going through all the questConflux is for your AI bots or your alts so you don't need to do them all again
>>574632985Was nice to get some characters caught up cause I never had a functional NPC party in the base game but I played with friends enough that I'm usually only short on 1 material at a time now
>>574632985it's mostly good for old stuff it seems. I haven't touched it other than mandatory times.
>>574632620Sorry but it's allowing me to take MVP from ML50 players when I'm only ML35 myself, and even then it doesn't even come close to being as boring and OP as Fediel either.
>>574631225You can cherrypick all the Cap Up out of the trees with your leftover points Or you'll miss like 40% cap on a move you aren't using cause its not part of your chosen gimmick anyways
>>574632741full
>>574633063>>574633071It seems that the conflux is for people new to the game where vets like me who already grindined and leveled every chars weapons its not really needed, even if its a nice option to have for infinite single player, but I was thinking more about the ER quests.Just running through every quest with each character and you have enough gear to level their weapons.>>574633140>MVPNobody, literally cares about this shit, it means nothing at all and anyone can get MVP but just spamming buffs and heals.
>>574633236If I'm getting it as Charlotta who only has a def debuff then it means I'm getting it through my damage. Stay mad all you want, I'm going to keep playing Charlotta as best as I can.
>>574633236>anyone can get MVP but just spamming buffs and heals.not anymore, the formula got changed and support stuff is maybe 5-10% of total mvp value now
>>574632985i do it for all the basic low level mats i need to forge/uncap weapons for altsit's just kinda insulting that you get barely enough per clear when you have dozens of weapons to go through
>>574633236Conflux is just insurance for shitters/people buying the game in 10 years when 3 people are online and no one is doing the middle tier quests anymore.
Be a good person
>>574633236DPSfags are always mad when the MVP slot is defined by anything other than big number.
>>574633381Seems to me counter productive, i actually dislike that it throws mats at you so much now because then you have little reason to actually do the quest.like with the conflux, if I just ran through that a few times I would have no need to do any chaos tier quest.the whole fun of the base game and Er and how it was meant to be was that you get to end game which was bhamut before the DLC quests, then start again from the beginning with a new character, uncapping, levelling and awakening their weapons.Only issue is they fucked it up because terminus grind was heavy them the low RNG drop rate of materials made it shit to farm certain missions. Then the refinum and centrum grind was harsh.i like now that they bumped drop rates and lowered requirements for stuff like levelling sigils but the conflux and increased drops in hub chests make it all pointless.I made the mistake in the base game of grinding for and awakening up everyones terminus using my main, so when I realized I made the mistake I awakened their ascension using the characters.In ER I am going through every quest from chaost-infinity with the characters themself.this leaves little reason to do the conflux.Though ironically there is trophies for doing conflux 5 3 times per character.
>>574633361Do parries count towards it? I was surprised I got it a few times on my half finished Percival
>>574633332I was getting MVPs from spamming def downs as rackam with the blast buildDebuffs carry a lot of weight.
>>574632737It's better, but it's also diluted by all the other damage dealt everyone has equipped and only adds up to 80% total, partially applied to Cag's own poor personal damage, so even in the best-case scenario where it applies to 3 Fediels, it's still contributes less than just running a 4th Fediel.
>>574633657>>574633689you two probably just did a ton of damage
It's literally always Charlotta players.
Any zeta gamers in here? I have a question to ask.
>>574632561>he gets briefly staggeredIsn't that only when he does in for a colored grab directly something?
>>574633732The Fediel comparison is unfair because she's literally broken and needs a nerf.
>>574634003I think I've seen it happen on the other ball moves\For the multiball or the line dash everyone has to block/dodge correctly, probably. No avoiding the hit altogether for the projectile one, since you can literally walk away from that one at some angles.
>>574633732I mean the anon was asking for an AI support, I'm assuming they want something that keeps them alive and makes them stronger so they can enjoy playing their character moreIf we're talking about how much Cag adds to a multiplayer party it's a different story, and keeping everyone alive is still very useful for people that aren't used to the bosses yet which you still run into a lot with randoms. And the Cag's buff and bit of personal damage is still enough damage contribution to get past DPS checks
>>574634051True
>>574634153I was the one asking who is the better support.Its smart to have a support in the AI team for constant heals and buffs.Cag was a main pick in base game for her buffs, ult gain and her AI behavior.
>>574634247Cag is still a super battery and a great healerHer damage did get nerfed though since they nerfed Pain Train, but she'll definitely keep you alive as an AI and have her SBA ready before anyone else on the team
We need a zero tier super boss.
>>574634461They'll just make the Lucilius fight gayer and worse again somehow so they don't need to make a new boss model
>>574634461Just make faa have even more balls on screen
That took a while.
>>574634571Now you can finally start killing dragons
>>574634461you will get collab raid with FFXIV or FFXI bosses.
Is there something about the big purple bone fag that I should be building around? Does his poison do a % of your total health or does upping HP help?I just hate fighting this faggot whenever I need his specific upgrade resource.
>>574634691And then after that they can finally start killing dragons
>>574612928Absolute bullshit Relink robbed us of Zeta's panties/bloomers
>>574634737>final boss is a dragon>finaler boss is a dragon>finalest boss is 6 dragons
I don't like dragons...
can the terminus sigil booster get to lvl 2?
>>574634992good news, you get to kill a lot of them>>574635014No
>first ever ghandagoza I've seen in ER>can't wait to see what he does>instantly died in one attack from song
>50 rolan drops>in a row>all with upliftThe odds of this are lower than getting one with warelement and 100% cap up.....
>>574634961We could have had more, but the developers are cowards.>no permanent overdrive versions of the 7 normal dragons>no dark and light wyrm tag team>no 9 dragon boss rush quest>no quest with the Id boss on the Grandcypher for Proto Bahamut
>>574635326That would crack me up
>>574635326Has anyone else even seen a Ghandagoza perform well?
>>574633156Those are obvious, but you actually can't always cherrypick them all, so you should measure the style's whole best case scenario. What should be even more obvious is the rank perks you can't cherrypick out.Let's take Narmaya's exclusives for exampleInsight>55% cap>15% suppCrux>105% cap>10% suppEssence>75% skill cap>20% skill cd reduction>20% dealt after link attacks or SBA>inb4 special conditions & demeritsLiterally don't matter in most cases, it's just a different gameplan at most and more likely the same gameplan. Like Percival's Insight skill reset doesn't matter because he can spam skills off cd between charge attacks anyways.
Is Ferry actually bad, I wanted to make her...
Is it even worth running SBA gen traits on Fraux? Her SBA gen is still dogshit with 15 Uplift and 15 Nimble Onslaught that I can't tell the difference.
>>574635441I saw one and he was pretty good>>574635571Make her what?
>>574635648Nimble also gives the extra invul time, so you should keep it. Dunno about Uplift.
>>574635326:)
>>574635539How do I spam skills as percy? Cascade?
I've never thought about it until now but, are the treasure chest drops for every player different in multiplayer or does everyone get the same drop?
>>574635915drops are client side which is why there's mods for perfect rng rolls
>>574635915Quest rewards are fixedDrops are different else the whole lobby would get the same summon
Do buffs like dodge payback go past cap?
>>574636038Yes.
Is divergence just a better regen?
>>574623624Rollslop spinoff with classes and mainhand soon
I think I'm the only one that finds Lyria attractive and would lick her butthole.
>>574635571she's fine just play who you like.
>>574636253I've been playing Katalina and I can promise you it is not fine to just play who you like.
>>574634726Fairly certain DoTs either bypass any of your defenses or are %based even to a high HP build they are the scariest things to fight through. IIRC skeleman does usual dark things so blight and slow resist are great if you can afford the slots or someone like sieg or danchou who can pack a veil effect help a lot
>>574636330ok then swap if thats how you feel. It's not that serious.
>>574635894The usual cascade & quick cooldown, also equip the EX trait that reduces his gap closer's cooldown after other skills, and always charge to stage 3 after every skill.
>>574632741chaos++/infinity lobbyCR7X 5TTT 8N5C 0LW8pass: vidya 2/4
>>574636132Isn't the % lowerYou can stack it with Regen
>>574636940No, it's the same, but divergence caps at lvl 15It's just that neither actually tells you the interval
>>574632741Wait a minute that isn't bampy-chang..
Is Cagliostro's entire gameplan really just "do a combo finisher and throw big rock" or am i missing something with her?also can't believe the little girl with a book baited me into playing a melee role with some of the shittiest melee ranges i have yet seen in this game...
he's so fucking cool
>>574637226
I think I'm at the final stretch of the expansion's story mode, isn't it kind of BS to expect you to be able to perfect guard and perfect dodge every single attack for these last few bosses?Do I really have to go through these bosses with AI party members for a better chance of at least completing them?
>>574637020Isn't it 3 seconds between ticks.
How do these substitute Siegs get so much hp?And is just being a beefy fuck to tank for the 3 other retards a good idea?
>>574637332>isn't it kind of BS to expect you to be able to perfect guard and perfect dodge every single attack for these last few bosses?You can always just get out of the way for most of them
Substitute + Phalanx or Substitute + Panacea for susbstitute danchou?
>>574637226Pepsiman or that DBZ alien with his face removes
>>574637432No way, there's definitely a steep difficulty curve in dodging attacks between the 6 dragons and Bubz/Lucy where their attack covers the entire arena rather than the standard circle attacks with massive gaps between them.
>>5746368403/4chaos++/infinity lobbyCR7X 5TTT 8N5C 0LW8pass: vidya
Should I ditch Percival's Rotisserie? Bosses move too damn much now
>>574637295now i want za world mod
>>574637609Depends on the boss I thinkMost of them stand still long enough to get it off if you know when. I wouldn't bring it to bubs
Is regen+divergence better than drain if I wanna run a sieg with the suicide pact style?
>>574638276I remember drain being okay on Sieg in the base game but they made some changes to it? If you want to tank for your team you need hp cause you take the damage they would take and it's gonna ignore all your own defenses, and regen scales a lot with hpDivergence is nice cause you don't want to dodge shit that debuffs you
>>574635539>Like Percival's Insight skill reset doesn't matter His skills that aren't the dash cause retarded amounts of stun and you can get perma uptime on his buffs And his 2nd dash heals a shitton off of drain now so having that with no cooldown is niceThe 9 stack explosion is probably more damage unless you're getting 0 parries but its less fun to me
>>574637556maybe im just good at video games but i found dodging to be extremely easy in relinkif you're eating shit against attacks and can't dodge/perfect guard then just sacrifice some damage for more tankinessas long as you have high stun you should be fine.
I auto'd Chaos++ the world for a whole day without a single War Elemental Rolan....
>>574638371Drain has unique caps for every move now so some characters benefitted a lot more than others. Anywhere from like 80 to 5000+ on a hit, depending on the skill.
>>574638534Same but with babu.
>You can get the 0 title with full assist modehuh... ok?
Need her so bad
>>574638720Societte...
Bros, please help me I'm stupid.In the training room the actual damage number goes up like expected when you use a buff skill, but the DMG cap percentage also goes up as if it's being capped even more. Is that just a visual discrepancy?And my build is just a generic sigil set up for now, are there any DLC Sigils I need to get?
>>574638878Attack buffs raise your cap but you have like 2000% cap and way less attack buffs than that so the % display on the dummy will go up proportionally
fediel stomps are so cute bros
>>574638878It's because of how buffs work now. They increase damage dealt above cap by 50% of the buff value, but the buff itself still applies.
why does Fediel act like a retarded best child
>>574638978>>574639019wait does that mean the +10% atk masteries are actually useful?
>>574638978>>574639019I see, so it doesn't matter so long as your damage numbers aren't hitting the exact same numbers consistently then, and a 10% Atk boost is technically something more like 5% after calculations? I was scared his buffs were useless and I'd been wasting time using them all this time.Thanks, now I've just gotta figure out how to build Io, Cag and Fraux for endgame too.
>>574639161No it means that they are useless.
>>574639161No. Those are applied to the base stats and not as a buff. The new crab sigil counts because it's a buff applied when the mission starts, and you can see it in your buffs bar. Assume it only works if it's like that.
>>574637226"I shall reforge nature itself."
>>574639161No, only shit that appears on your buff bar works like that.
>>574638980They really are. I love her so much.
I'm gonna try out spin charlotta again
>>574638878Depends on your summons and subskills, but what I don't see are spartan echo and lumen/ventus/aqua. Also get your awakening so you can cram in more of those. The end goal is 3 stun, 2 other stat, and 5 defense/support sigils all with the desirable attack subskills. Percy NEEDS quick cooldown, cascade, and quick charge as well.
Finally....
>60%
>>574637146I guess all the cag mains are asleep now... all 2 of them.
>>574639592>skill damage cap>60%
>>574639592actually the real real meta is getting max stun on everything since cap ups are extremely diminishing returns
>>574639236>>574639279>>574639315why is it so complex wtfthanks anons
>>574640035Because this game's math was made by retards who thought damage cap was a good idea
>>574639737Wait, so my Supp 15/Stun 15 Roulette summon is actually BiS?
>>574567386Got the mod link by any chance?
>>574639527>spartan echoI definitely didn't forget about that.>lumen/ventus/aqua.I get Lumen, but why would I want more damage during Link if I don't have remotely enough DMG Cap to use it? And removing healing just seems dumb.>the restYeah, I do have more skills like cooldown related ones and stun power. I just didn't feel like taking multiple pictures to get the full list. I'll try to squeeze in quick charge somehow too.
>>574637558chaos++/infinity lobbyCR7X 5TTT 8N5C 0LW8pass: vidya2/4
>>574640171i think the quartet of berserker/spartan echoes + warpath + stout heart with stun is gonna be the ideal
>>574640209Enhanced damage from your warpath sigil, mastery traits and the celestial sigils apply past the cap.
can i say this is the most disorienting shit ive ever seen in this game
>>574640209>And removing healing just seems dumb.Can be a literal nothing burger or a big deal depending on your team
>>574640209Keep in mind that the stat and support effects need to be in the first slot for the mastery trait bonuses to work.
>>574639710It's better than crit.
Is there some kind of pattern to the character sigils? Or am I just unlucky that the character I'm using never gets any sigils when gambling at the potato?
>>5746402303/4
the only thing that I think is acceptable to cheat is over masteries that shits retarded
>>574640747It feels purely random.
>>574640905Sure doesn't feel random when I get 500 fediel sigils for every 1 fraux or beatrix sigil.
>>574640230full
>>574640512bruh wtf I hate Yu-Gi-Oh keywords >>574640671That still seems like a gamble, but I was also only considering general solo/not planning around multiplayer play too. Makes sense.>>574640679I didn't think you could get any of those attack sigils as a secondary effect except Supplementary Damage, but maybe I just have bad luck.
>>574640747>>574640905You are more likely to get awakening+ than other character sigils but everything else is randomI managed to get a good warpath+ sigil after savescumming for about an hour
>>574640747All RNG has some pattern based on what's called a seed, but I don't think we know what Siero's seed is. The rolls are rerandomized after every quest though. If you try to savescum without doing a quest, you'll get the same result every time.>>574641218>I didn't think you could get any of those attack sigils as a secondary effectMost of them you can't. You can however fuse them onto the second slot through synthesis.
>>574639019Damn never knew
What do I even do during link time as Eugen?Just throw grenades?
>>574641745Basically, or at least that's how it was in base game. Maybe toss in any damage skills for more SBA depending on what you run.
>>574641745You are Eugenyou toss grenades
Do charged parries really not work for Infinity The World's gimmick? All my hype for fighting him just hit rock bottom.
>>574642613It wouldn't matter because the delay between Quickening and ZA WAARUDO's last action exceeds charge time if the charge attack is used correctly, and it would be cancelled by a link attack anyways. You can still use guard points against every other attack though.
>>574642613yes, why would it works?
Relink is kinda difficult for people that like the mobile game because dropping that game for 12 hours means that you're 10 million tears behind. Not that I mind that game is trash
Messed around for a bit.From my testing, Immortal Shell makes up the damage lost from running just 3 white sigils and without Lumen.
How many levels of uplift are optimal? I feel like too often, I'm stuck sitting at 100% waiting for someone to catch up
>>574643293It varies drastically with your character and skill level.
>>574642791That depends on the attack, Percival has enough time to charge Schlatt and block the hit while still hitting the link prompt. At the very least you'll charge up buffs and stacks from it.>>574643008Because it would be cool to have an endgame boss built around characters like Vaseraga and it's a lot harder to pull off, so why not add the option when it's functionally the same method?
Im kinda new to the game and ive been using this strategy of link time into sba chain into link time, but I'm a bit confused. Sometimes i build a hell of a lot of link time early on, but other times I build barely any. I don't get it
>>574643635Furthermore, sometimes ill be sitting on 100% link time for minutes on end because the trigger to start never pops up
>>574643517>it would be cool to have an endgame boss built around characters likeThis is a co-op game.>it's a lot harder to pull offYeah all those master traits with extended parry windows sure make it a lot harder.
>>574643779Link time is started when you full the stun (blue) bar while having 100% link.Bosses going into bloodthirst (yellow) resets that bar, and it also resets when they go into break.If they go into a lengthy cutscene attack that bar will likely dwindle down to nothing too.Between all of those resets and bullshit, it's possible to not fill the stun bar to get that link time for long stretches of the fight.tl;dr get more stun
>corrupted data>start freaking the fuck out>>opens exactly where I was anywayyou fucking cunts why did you scare me
>>574644038More stun, got itwas already kinda doing it with the basic sigil trait
>>574643946I'm a gran player and I can say it's hard to pull offYou just you release the button and hope it works
>>574644145If it doesn't, you can plink a perfect guard at the same time.
>>574644141It's more of an endgame optimization thing but it never hurts to be aware of it and squeeze it in if you can.Also after you link attack them the bar will go into cooldown which will stop them from gaining stun for a while, and the bar will be frozen when you sba them.Ideal timing is to sba them just as the bar is nearly full so you can stun into link time as they recover (assuming you don't need to save sba for certain timings).
>>574643946>This is a co-op game.Yes, and having different types of bosses that favour different approaches is good for both fun and game design.>Yeah all those master traits with extended parry windows sure make it a lot harder.Predicting when he's going to do it to get prepared beforehand and then figuring out which of the three Quickenings it is that you need to time it to, that's definitely not any harder than simply timing a perfect guard.
>>5746402303/4, leaving my spot for another anons.Today just isn't my day.
>>574644558>>574640230we all rip'd so no lobby now. ggs anons!
>>574644558We did fine
>>574644558Everyone has bad days anon. Yesterday I play ininity missions (with randoms) for 2 hours before I realised I was using my MSP farming summons instead of my fighting ones.
>>574644658Ah shid well it do be like that sometime>>574644660Oh absolutely, I'm not saying the games were shit, just that I kept fucking up on dumb things and it just started to frustrate me.
>finally thought about joining a gbfrg lumu>no sessions found>lumu disbandedit's never been more over bye
>>574644386>having different types of bosses that favour different approaches is good for both fun and game designYet you can't connect it to the co-op part, can you? That's just your imaginary feelings. Favouring different approaches in that sense funnels players into that approach, which conflicts with mixed roles and synergy i.e. cooperation.>Predicting when he's going to do it to get prepared beforehand and then figuring out which of the three Quickenings it is that you need to time it toYou don't have to do any of this shit, you just charge off of whatever your last action was which you were probably going to do anyways and wait for the flash.
>>574644802You could just make one you know
>>574631295If you beat Proto Bahamut you should be able to access the DLC content
>Finally managed to beat Chaos++ Lucifer>But was hyper carried by a team of mastery level 50 teammates and one of them is FedielDid I beat the boss?
What main weapon are you guys using in endgame now
I like playing Io but shit like quickening and Bubz red orb make me wonder if theres something im missing likeshe can dodge out of charges but she cant block out of charge? seems dumb
>>574645058YesLuci is so shit it doesn't even matter
>>574645058Base game faa was designed to be beaten by doing the mechanicsER faa is designed to fuck you if you don't have the dps to skip half his garbage
>>574644819>Yet you can't connect it to the co-op part, can you?It already is connected by default. People play games differently from one another and choose different characters based on that, people want their preferred playstyles to be effective so you tailor the experience to those different approaches. Or, you accept that every endgame boss is just Infinity Lucilius and all builds are just DMG Cap.>Favouring different approaches in that sense funnels players into that approach, which conflicts with mixed roles and synergy i.e. cooperation.It does the exact opposite of that, and not doing this is what actually funnels people into a single approach IE Metafaggotry where no one cares about anything except DPS for every single encounter.
>update and overhaul grid to be like the one I found>damage improved>but now I am actually hitting UNDER my cap at 86-98%Uh oh
>>574645359the closer you get to 100% the better, even if its a little over the cap
>>574645359This is easy to fixChange the dummy mode
>>574645469It's hard to bump my attack back above though, well maybe once I get a luci summon to let me slot in the immortal shell sigil.
>>574645359change dummy to Chaos++
>>574645079This is getting off track. Anyway, your idea of players choosing different approaches is those approaches being independent from one another. If The World needed to specifically favour charge characters, the game would also need to provide everyone else with a way to specifically enhance charge characters for that to be cooperative. I'm not saying ER is perfectly designed, but it's not as if any character deserves some special validation because Fediel is currently OP, so rather than complaining they don't get it, just learn and engage with the mechanics as they are. Again, you can still guard point everything else.
>Randos can't even do chaos++ world nowI guess all it left is shitter
>>574645520>>574645739How?
anyone else have the camera get glitched during the wheel of fortune? it got stuck at a fixed angle from outside the arena lol
>>574646116YesYou just have to quit mission at that point
>>574646093HP option in the training settings when you bring up the menu.
>>574646216Ah there we go.>130-160% nowSo fatebreaker was basically not active this whole time?
>>574646320Yes
Just got my first terminus weapon. Is the Faa grind worth it in Ragnarok? I imagine stronger sigils replace it pretty quick.
>cannot find members for quick questdead game
>>574646691Nope, not enough slots. If you want to sacrifice utility slot for damage gain, Immortal Shell is still the best choice
>>574646691Not reallyYou just do it for fun or practice it for harder faa
>>574646691Correct, his sigils get replaced.
I don't remember the base game being this buggy.
>>574639131The six chromatic dragons were created to destroy the world at Bahamut's command (see the Hexa Boss).Fediel and the other five dragons woke up earlier on their own. Awaiting orders they watched over humanity and fell them, fell for their struggle, fell for their conviction, fell for their potential for evolution and deemed it on their own "worth not destroying".They are basically humanity's fanclub, each one with a quirk they are interest inFediel, interested in human mating ritualsWilnas, likes farming and cookingWamdus, likes games and eatingGalleon, loves all living thingsEwiyar, see humans as great servants for her and destroying them would be a wasteLu wo, acts like the dick and is always mad but he might the one with the most understanding about humanity and the one that cares the most for their wellbeing
>>574646691mastery made it so that a stun sigil beats all the special faa sigils on cap up alone
>RolandFINALLY>Crit Rate 18%REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>574646862The wall was immune to damage and the fight didnt progress anymore?I've had that happen before, what did you do?
>>574646882So I should replace my Faa-san sigils with stun ones with DMG Cap?
>>574646972After you get the masteries, sure
Look at what I got!
>>574647204Why did they give him this new amor? It looks ass
>>574647271He needed something to undress from. Aside the cloak he's pretty naked in his default.
>>574647380He should have a jojo mantit window. It feels wrong if he doesn't
>>574646952>what did you do?Sweating from my hands because I don't want to lose my Siegfried stacks.We did nothing weird, just wailed on the poor thing like usual.
>>574647271>assHis clothes got torn off when he literally got obliterated.Out of pure sheer will, rage, muscle and autism he reborn'd himself naked (as you should)The armor is his King attire
I hate how close the camera zooms in when playing melee characters. Is there a mod to fix this?
>>574647981this achievable natty?
WHY IS THE MUSIC FOR THIS LITERALLY WHO SO GOOD?
>>574648165Only if you're a true king. Or a true macho.
>>574648259It's just what you get when you sign up for Society shenanigans anon.The track is "Burning Out The Blue" if you ever wanna look it up
>>574647981Why are all the angels simultaneously the coolest designs/characters and the gayest homosexual fantasies imaginable?
>>574648259>LITERALLY WHOthat's Pyet-A, anoneveryone knows who that is
>>574648259Phase one is last advent btwI really like the transition between phase change
>>574648259>literally whoin the gacha you tardwrangle this thing and turn it into a sword/gunthen you pilot it on the moon to beat up moon niggers
>>574648259pyet-A is a cool fuck don't diss him like that
>>574646091>nowA week ago it took me 15 queues with randoms to do it.
>>574646091I did infinity world and people still didn't attack death card
Newcutie here who bought this game recently and is 100 hours in. I really dislike the game design at it's core.>Here's (Your) character>(Your) character does MASSIVE infinite DEEPS and is a wrecking ball of 10000000000 numbers>BUT>(Your) rotation is a convoluted series of levers and pullies that require astrology and the stars to align>If you don't get the stars to align>Guess what>GET FUCKED RUMEOWZERS U RIKE!?>So lets design the bosses too...>ADHD CRACK SPERG JUMP ALL OVER THE ARENA WHAT IS DOWNTIME HAHA NO SUCH THING GET FUCKED GET BENT CUTSCENE TIME RAID MECHANICS TIME GET FUCKED OH YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD THREE SECONDS TO START TRYING TO ALIGN YOUR STARS NOPE LMAO GET BENT ISSA ANOTHER JUMP AWAY 20KM AT THE FAR EDGE OF THE ARENA>nyes this is the game design we would like>where no one has fun ever>ship it onegaishimasu
>>574649741I'm happy for you
>>574649741Why do you need downtime when you can just attack at the same time as the boss or be completely invincible in like seven different ways?
>>574646091>nowI had to kill him with my shitty unbuilt AI team because randoms kept failing the quest at launch
>>574649925Play sieg perf execution with this taketell us how it went anon
>>574649686For some reason people really like to try and hit the boss. Maybe the targeting is wonky if you're ranged? But then they're to retarded to reposition and just keep blasting
>>574649686There's 1 time I hit the judgement and leave death to the other 3, guess what, they can't kill it
back to the bubz mine we go
>>574650464Yeah but they also can't kill it if nobody hits the judgement card
>>574650613Host it
My Fraux is not bringing enough stun or damage to my party in Infinity Hexa when you have to burn down those specific dragons before the bar fills
>>574650918>FrauxThat's your problem. Pick a better character.
>>574650918>when you have to burn down those specific dragons before the bar fillsDo you even? I think I failed killing most of them on most my runs
>>574650918hit the dummy until you can do like 3-4 million dps per secondstun isn't as important in hexa as in Lucifer or bubz
>>574651074You don't really need to, I can clear it solo in like 12 minutes but it just feels bad seeing the dragons at like 25% HP left because her AI has a long windup between screen transitions
why do people play low tier garbage and then whine about failing dps checks?
I WILL play fediel and you bet your ass I WILL blame my teammates if we fail any dps checks because those niggas can't pull their own weightget on my level scrubby
Which flavor of beatard is the most fun?
what does your AFK build look like? stuck at chaos++ luci so I need to grind proper builds now
>>574650918>>574651074From my experience with randoms, I still can't tell if people are fucking retarded or if the stun bars for those trial dragons are just incredibly high. I guess perfect blocking some of their AoEs might help stun them better, but I've only seen it filled a couple times ever and never for the first trial. Not that it really matters that much if people stay alive, it's only a slight knock against the critical gauge.
>finally get genuinely great pub>fight gets bugged againcygames where is the update
>>574651853shotgun eustace+molten percy+perfect sieg+phantasmagoria spam cag
>>574652102>meta ai team is 3 homos and a trannywhy do straight men play this game again
>>574651853This is my afk Eustace, I have a similarly built Percival and the third is my main, then I grab another Percival or Eustace from supports
>>574652178They don't, you're a faggot
>>574652178Cog is not a tranny
>>574651824She has nice tits
>>574651824i wanna try skill spam
you now remember the tier list top 10 being composed of all homos outside of the diversity quota pick in fediel (who will be nerfed in 2 weeks)
how much better is terminus compared to ascension if the sigils are perfect? cant handle the 200k hp
>>574651982rip
>>574652282>Male to Female with the use of alchemical scienceseems 1-1 to me
>>574652530Like 10% to 20%. But that assuming full uptime and let's be honest if you're eating the floor 10% of the time with terminus but able to eat attacks like nothing with ascension the real difference is your dignity.
if your build is giga perfect you can tank shit with terminushttps://youtu.be/OB0hJgRu380?si=vbJpfblGOvwt2Kg_
What's the zeta meta for loop master? Do I start off getting 5 stacks asap? Or do I just crank out maximum arvess hammer right from the get go and ignore getting those 5 stacks?
>>574652604>male to mutilated male with the use of hormones and a knifeidk man I think it's different
>>574652604Mentally he's still considers himself male (referring to himself as ore-same), any time he acts girly it's just an act to match the body.
>>574652604But he didn't transition his actual body from male to female, he literally made a doll and put his soul inside itHe's still a man inside the girl's bodyTrannies would be mad if you told them that
>>574652797All you're doing is convincing me that granblue devs post on twitter in their offtime and know a little bit too much about queer discourse
im trying out Bea's rising nova buff skill but i dont think its worth it
>>574652530How? You can still squeeze a stronghold sigil in, be tanky with 200k hp and live comfortably with terminus
>>574652726Do any of the dodge/block sigils work with character skills and parries?
>>574652948How do you even get 200k hp? I'm at Terminus 9/10 and I'm only at 85k hp even with double hp sigils. I do use celestial terra.
Cag is the type of bitch to spend 50k on FFS and go around telling everyone else they need to do the same to be legitand then on 4chan she'll post her barely censored supermodel body and keep whining about being a gorillahon
>>574652367Official cosplayer for Bea Fraux and Makura
>>574653131She looks like she reeks of producer cum
>>574653110I don't know half these terms
>>574653219thats the point
>Start Infi Luci>Put down Vane bubble>Two people hop right in>The fucking Fediel tries to be the big hero and ignore it>Procs auto revive and uses a revive potEvery time. They even went off attacking the swords during The End too. Thankfully the other two clearly built stun.
>>574653049Then stop using Terra?
i'm actually raging trying to get dark pincers in chapter 8, who the fuck designed these
>>574653354isn't terra meta?
>>574653049...
>>574653391Terra is like a 2% boost at most. It's only worth it if you're having issues getting under 200k
>>574653049If you run terra it's harder, you're going to need to run both aegis and greater aegis, not all characters have enough slots for that
>>574651853This is what I run for chaos++ luci and it works pretty well as someone who wants to minimally level up homos
bro got the hounds out goddamn
Metera when?
>>574652896Cag is no different from a dude playing as a girl in a video game, anyone calling that trans is the one with mental issues.
>>574653857If asked to go back to a male body, cag would say No. seems clear cut to me
>thought infinity was going to be hardcore endgame content>it's literally just chaos++ but with 1 or 2 minor gimmickscringe
>>574652746Not sure if it's "meta", but if you need to work on stun, focus on landing repeated Arvess Hammers. If not, then focus on getting full stacks and being able to maintain it for as long as possible. I'd also recommend leaving at least one Arvess Hammer in your back pocket for when a boss might move across the arena. And of course if you need to reposition mid-loop or just stall in the air, remember you can dodge at almost any point.
>>574654209You can True Solo it if you want real hardcore content, but you might find out you dont actually like that
>>574654005Mental issues, I'm sorry dude. Or ma'am if you prefer that.
>Finally finished building my third and probably final mainWelp, might build other characters for ai down the line but that's it, to keep grinding infinity for more optimized summons now.
>>574654292Of course cag has mental issues thats the entire argument
>>574653391Only use Terra against a target dummy, if you're a dodge god, or if you're running FoFNever use it if you have to use Aegis/Greater Aegis to make up for it since that makes it 70% cap for 2 slots which is less efficient than just having 2 basic sigilsIf it's making the fights harder to survive in and less comfy to play it's just not worth it for a marginal increase in damage if any
>>574654338Bro your crab?
>>574654536gomenasorry I copied some chink seofon speedrunner and he was using terra
I keep getting guard and guard master ect. on the post game screen as percy - does parry count for triggering guard sigils as well?
>>574654209The main issue is only 5 fights and they reused four of them too much before reaching Infinity. By the time you get there, the DLC content doesn't feel like a new experience anymore.
>>574654338how long does nimble defense buff last?
>>574654765Oh yeah speedrunners run the fight 1000 times for that one perfect run where they don't get hit and the lower HP doesn't matter lolIt probably is ideal for ultra maximized damage, but would not recommend for normal runs
>>574654765Then you shouldn't be worrying about HP since you can be OP like him
>>574654765I say this without any malice:Retard
>>574653207I should become a producer
>>574653804The subhumans we call, Bahamut forgive me for uttering the word, "chinese" couldn't handle her.
why do I see glass cannon on people who aren't god tier players sometimes isn't it like absolute dogshit because you have 2200% cap up now
>>574654952it adds a def buff and heals your hp per perfect dodge though honestly idk about the def buff and i dont care, im using it because of the +2 second of invencibility you get from it, paired with nimble onslaught and thats a whole +4 seconds added, it really helps Io considering how much you want to be charging your spells.
is it true that you can't get duplicate awakening+ sigils?
>>574654536Terra bring me just about at 199K HP among all the other shite.I... don't know man it seems to line up just right for me.
>trying to level up and ascend all the weapons for all the characters I have interest in using>boss materials>fortitude crystals>annoying old boss materials you can't get from conflux>EXCAVILLION IN 2026>dog shit furycane and managarmr chaos fights that go invulnerable constantlyPeople say MSP is the grind? Between the high chaos++ quests I need to do for materials, dragons for fortitude, and selling all the summons I get along the way - I've unironically gotten most of the MSP to fully mastery the character whose weapons I work on while I farm it.Weapons are 100x worse than straight MSP grindAt least with MSP I can set it to auto and go do something
>>574654338Can people share these kind of images but for Rosetta, Ferry, Maglielle and Lancelot? Just so I know what to build for.
>>574654338This is way too squishy for my taste.
>>574654287Would be fun if not for the strict timer and instant kill DPS/stun checksSome characters literally can't output enough damage to get past them
>>574655875Your sigils must be a damn mess if you're over 200k hp with terminus anyways
>>574655862Correct, once you have it for a particular character it won't roll for them again. Only separate sigils with different sub-trait sigils after that point.
>>574656072Might be, I dunno, it's far from being finished anyway, but it's holding together and that's enough for me.
>friends really want us to do everything together>I know I'd play more than them but I just thought to myself I'll grind other characters to make up for it>mfw they play so little all my characters are M30 and I have 5000 sigils and 99k vouchersthe worst thing is when we do play together they want to farm boring shit instead of actually progressing the quests
>>574655890Works just fine for me personally but whatever makes you play well really, the only thing she really needs is a lot of qcd and cascade to function well.
>>574655834Actually the invulnerable period only uses the maximum invuln period increase of the 2 skills and caps at +3 seconds of invulnerability at 6 secondsSo using both doesn't actually do anything if that's your concern.
>>574656372oops meant to tag >>574655979>>574656403Oh really? Funny, I still like the hp recovery though so I might stick with it anyway.
campaign was flawed and the story got kinda nonsensical at the end but I very much enjoyed it and the setting is wonderful I hope we get some actual story expansions down the line is Lilith really gone?
Skill build Zeta is fun af
>>574656264Just level up your main to ML 55 and stop using your main while playing with themThey'll probably lost interest next week anyway
How do I get Immortal Shell again? I have collected all 20 dark pincers and ran sumo title fight but I didn't get it. Did i brick my progression?
>>574656763Did you turn the quest in to the boy in seedhollow?
>>574656641She fall into otherworld, even Bubz struggled while staying down thereI don't think she's alive, anon
>>574656645Redpill me on it please
>>574656807Oh I didn't realize it was in sneedhollow, thanks
Is it me or is Zeta kinda fucking cracked right nowFediel is drawing all the attention (as expected) but isn't this bitch's damage kinda broken for how easy her dps rotation is
>>574656502Yeah the HP recovery is still good and the defense boost is actually a pretty significant amount of damage reduction so using both is pretty good if you got the slots
It took me replaying through the base game quests with a friend and a new character to realize that there isn't a single angra mainyu in ER?Did they realize it is a shit fight?
>>574657090If I can’t pogo, I’m not having fun, and half the fights are now cancer to pogo in.
>>574657235As if 99.9999% of the roster that isn't orb spamming fedial doesn't find the endgame fights cancer as well
>>574657195its a spectacle fight not condusive to grindingsame with excavallion
>>574656851If you use the gap closer skill, or the counter skill, you can immediately go into the Y jump finisher. And landing that finisher has a chance to instantly reset any of your skills on cooldown, while also granting you a beefy skill damage and cap up buff. So you just burn your skills and then fish for resets on your harder hitting skills so you can spam them, and just defaulting to basic jump loops (which also reduce your skill cooldowns) if you don't get a reset and don't have a skill you can use.If you get good luck on the resets you can shit out absurd damage, or do funny things like keeping a boss locked down with paralyze, or keeping your counter reset to keep standing in stuff for more finishers.It feels a lot more active and less cucked by the high mobility and annoying downtime bosses in the endgame. She still gets to use the jump loops which are fun, but they're no longer her full identity.
>>574657090She is the next highest damage dealer that's not a homo after Fediel after all
Why does Infinity Versa not play End of Ragnarok? Are they retarded?
>>574652726>shows build on Fediel>showcases on SiegfriedDisingenuous fuck. Sieg has a Warpath that gives you -30% DEF. If you don't have the Echo+WE summons you'd be scraping to have enough slots to cover that decreased DEF.
>C>12:57 (3 sec to enrage)damn I suck at this gameoh well, just one more infinity fight now, probably gonna have to switch out beatrix because her SBA gain is super slow
>>574657629saving it for a fight coming in a later patch, trust
>>574657090Sort of, Arvess Hammer was always a good heavy stun attack and now you can do several a row in the right circumstances. Parry tree seems really good at it but I'm having fun pushing myself with loops.>>574657629Because it's Endless Ragnarok, duh.
>>574657583isn't that neechang
>>574657681ok, its sieg, he doesnt need that defense to tank
>>574657583>Zeta>not gay
>>574657810Neechang dummy numbers are inflated because she gets free Kaleidoscope from link attacks on the dummy. Real bosses aren't going to break as easily
>>574652726thanks for thisfixed my sigils and i lose like almost no dps (dropped terra) but tanky as hell if especially if i bring konigschild (60% dmg cut buff)tested against infi the world, quickening dealt only 48k at full hp with that buff on
>>574657714You are AFKing Infinity?
>>574657583isn't that lotta or Io
>>574654930Pepsiman was a cool boss at least, has a really fun gimmick that rewards good play and doesn't take ages to kill despite being the only boss to have two health bars.I wish the others were built like him instead of "block/dodge my jobber ball mixup perfectly or die and permanently lose your max HP also Im gonna force you to play Mario Party every 20 seconds have fun"
I wish you could go see where a material comes from on the Siero/blacksmith screen then click on that quest to immediately queue it, rather than needing to add it to your wishlist.
>>574658458I'm playing manually and doing my best bro wtf...
>>574658549Get a ranged backup like Eustace for your backup. They tend to so much better and can keep sustained DPS. Percival is probably the only backup Melee I'd recommend for faster clear times
>>574658549>FrauxStay out of my infinity pubs you low tier deadweight.
>there are still people playing dogshit Tweyen in Infinites and singlehandedly shitting up every run they're in-- if not outright killing said runs when it comes to Infi Bubs>mfw
I don't get fraux hate, she does good damage as an npc in my party. When I'm playing her I often get MVP too.
>>574658896Sounds like a (you) problem. Just get better Song players.
>>574659010>350mil parses on average>When the baseline for a good character in ER is 500mil minimumare you regarded
>>574659052No such thing as better Song players. For there is no way to make the character stop being dogshit.
>>574659010Fraux's damage is OK, her dummy score is inflated due to link spam but she does bring good utility with her defense down in fights and can self heal well.
Setting FPS to 30 instead of 60 makes my npc fight slower or slows down their SBA gain or something.
>>574659010Parsefaggots will do anything except accept that a clear is a clear
whats the trait to specialise in for Yoda?
Are most of the girls in this game in the 500-599 million range?
>Fediel's counterattack skill animation >bouncing her tits around and saying "i've got a present for youuu~" jesus christ
>>574659582Only one I think
>>574654287tried it a bit, it's fun but there's just some dps checks that aren't possible due to being split up so unless you're a ranged nuker like eustace or fed you'll burn through a res
lumu
I like tweyens in my infinites. I like shitters in my infinites. Because If I wanted an easy and smooth run, I'd host a lobby here or go play with AI.
>>574659340>parsefaggotsIt's like you niggas didn't learn from XIV. Listen up sonny. The anti-parse kiddos who cope about 'muh utility', 'muh safe play' are 99% of the time the deadweight in the team. If you can't even do damage how the fuck can I trust you to do mechanics? RetardIf you were in my static I would instantly kick you.
>>574657714The AI is fucking balls for Versa cause you'll have 1 character chasing Id around and doing literally no damage because he regens 10 million a second
>>574657714>>574658549Congratz anon!
>>574659569I run skill reset just because the other two are so meh
>another episode of a retard insisting that muh big deeps test is the only thing that matters in this game
>>574659582IIRC then so far, there have been only 2 that reach the 500+ mil damage on dummy: Fediel and PercivalMost other characters sit in the 300-500 mil range
>>574659981Thanks
>>574659807Go seethe over classes then while I have fun playing the game. Maybe you'll even clear a minute faster than me once you find your perfect team.
>>574660143I bet you main DNC, you fucking faggot. I kicked dozens of you shitters back in my day and I will kick you too if I had the chance.
uh oh metafaggot melty
>>574660241But you don't so go suck a dick
No one cares about your tranny MMO
XIV player uh oh stinky!!
Nothing wrong about DNC, they are sexo.
Man I thought Fediel's playstyle was simple, then I saw Charlotta's...
Isn't charlotta or Io the 2nd highest non-worm dps behind fedielwhy are people shilling zeta all of a sudden
>>574660136Keep in mind it only resets damage skills, so no free mirror image spam. The reset chance is actually insanely high, the rng to keep the shroud marks is the real issue.Also, the parry skill is a damage skill, and if the boss is anywhere in the arena you WILL teleport straight on his ass.
>>574660590>why are people shilling zeta all of a suddenBecause bros before hoes, anon.
>>574660590There was Twitter link of Bea getting 510 w/ no Glass Canon, but I'm pretty sure they had optimal summons. I'm pretty sure I've seen Charlotta with 530+ and Zeta in the 500's roo.
fraux sexo
>all I get in my pub lobbies are absolute shitters that don't do damage, are too stupid to do mechanics and are on the floor fucking bleeding constantly playing Bea, Narmaya, Fraux and Song and nothing else
>>574660893Wasted on a carpet muncher.>>574660817Forgot to add, there's a Narm with 515.
i dont wanna do luci inf with terminus :(
>>574661049I still have yet to see a Bea floor tank in almost 70 hours of playtime. Plenty of Songs and Narms though. I haven't seen many Fraux's dying that often either.
>Fediel will go on an autistic twirl saying something about dyads when left alone in town long enough please let me be in dyads with you
>>574660093oopsAfter researching for a bit, it seems like quite a few also reach that milestone, like Id, Lance, Vase, Naru, Cag (and maybe more).In actual fights Fediel is still the top of the chain though.
Is Song really that bad? Is she really bottom 1 in this game
>>574661319How with CagUnless this is absolutely perfect glass cannon sigils and summons
>>574661201I don't want to to luci period
>>574661413She’s balanced around near perfect uptime and quick ramp up.Bosses fucking off don’t really negatively impact her like most of the cast unless you’re using the one spec.
>>574661413She has 100% uptime no matter what the fuck is going on in a fight at least but her ceiling isn't that highYou see shit like Lancelot doing 600m to the dummy that's never going to happen in an Infinity fight when every boss besides The World teleports or leaves the arena every 10 seconds and it takes him 15 seconds of uninterrupted mashing just to start ramping up
>>574661413No she does okay if she constantly does damage and stays alive, but she attracts the players that believe they don't need survivability because they're ranged and then end up floor tanking
>>574661413I've cleared plenty of fights w/ S++ rank when someone is using her in my party. Last night fought a Infinity Bub with myself as Zeta, a Siete, Bea and Song with that score. People just have to y'know. Not suck completely.
>>574661413I don't know about the character but somehow most song players tend to be retarded. That prolly doesn't help their dps either
>>574660893boobs way too big
Is ranged tax still even as much of an issue in Relink as it is in FFXIV?
>>574661413No character in the game is BAD, they all clear fineSong is just very annoying to play because every single attack she does knocks her back
>>574659798i live for these kinds of runs desu>>574660590io is mostly only high in a vacuum. the 700m of her is after a chink gambled for hours to get 10+ 50% resets in a row>>574661674>You see shit like Lancelot doing 600m to the dummy that's never going to happen in an Infinity fight when every boss besides The World teleports or leaves the arena every 10 seconds and it takes him 15 seconds of uninterrupted mashing just to start ramping upI think there's actually no greater disparity in dummy vs real fight than lancelot, his build is so meme in most cases and you lose so much damage chasing a boss around even with a gap closer skill being up. But it kinda works on hexa since the big body stands still
>>574660694Zeta paizuri...
after playing Fediel the "legit" way, i think her dps would be instantly fixed if her orbs spawned slightly later in the animation, literally nothing else is required that'd make dodge cancelling have the same orb spawning rate as just spamming Y as intended
>keep grinding for roland WE>cope with my roland WE + crit rateWHICH ONE
>>574662057Not at all since Io/Eugen/Eustace/Maglielle/etc all do retarded damage
>>574662228Then why does song suck
>>574662181This but Bea paizuri.
>>574662224if you have another summon with 50% cap on it then using a suboptimal WE summon means you're losing 50% to gain 40%
>>574661267I love her so much.
>>574662369Because the devs threw darts at a spinning wheel to determine damage caps
>>574661489Nevermind jesus fucking christ this is some sweaty playhttps://youtu.be/ZfDtGggPb9U
>>574662224Keep going until you get either Stun or NA cap
>finally get a competent team that isn't full of the retarded normies playing the basic bitch normgroid bait characters>everyone drops connection
>No one is doing infy bubzhuh?
What mastery path do I go with Charlotta?
>>574662425>means you're losing 50%No because you have like 2000% from other sources of damage cap at that pointIts more of a question of what you're gaining from taking the slot your War Elemental sigils were hogging but if you're already clearing the Infinity fights I'd rather just have room for whatever other skills I want over the mandatory shit
>>574661489>>574662551>gacha rocks cag
>>574662604me
i tried afk slimefarming but it barely even clears the second objectiveI dont see how this is the best msp farm
>>574662839if you want other skills you can still swap out stat sigils, I don't see your point
yep time to reroll my overmasteries until i get +60 stun
Stout Heart, waddabout it? Still useful? or nah? I main yoda and Sieg and Io and Charlodda
>>574662414Bea doesn't even know what that is
>>574662551animation canceling her finishers was always a thing though
What is the meta 4th stat for overmastery? Obviously you want the 3 damage caps but is crit or stun better
>>574663107You can get summons in the middle of Chaos with it so you don't need it to hog a sigil slot anymore. Free defense.
>>574663170Stun's better you overcrit without OM these days.
>>574663208Thanks, exactly what I wanted my ears to hear.
>>574663170Stun of course.>3 damage capsyou don't want sba cap, it's still hard to cab sba even with endgame builds
NEW THREAD>>574663295>>574663295>>574663295
Behold, the only good summon in my possession.
any lobbies?
>>574662604I was in pubs but then SERVER DROPPED CONNECTION CAUSE OF OUTDATED JAP CODE
>>574662634Diamond Cutter if you're a god. The other two if you're not.
>>574662634The invincibility one
Showman Gallanza questionAm i supposed to get off of Deathmatch mode as quick as possible by dodge canceling the Spin animation to waste away the install bar so i can go back to normal mode with the finishers that reduce cooldowns?
>>574665154Aerial combos in Deathmatch Finale have a combo finisher, so that seems to be the preferred method.
>Finally met a Vas once in a while>Job all the time in infy bubz>Takes all the critical bar>We failed at 12%Vasbro....
