Banana Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=688635449342696590>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>574486248
Flopping tranny deadcock.
dogshit matchmaking
borgor
Silver needs and deserves buffs.
I think you guys are dooming too much
deadgock dev team after updating spirit scaling of a random ability by 2% and using chatgpt to make yet another urn rework and getting paid 700k a year
>>574634481You are supposed to call them jews and Epstein lovers, not wholesome Indians bro
>>574634429I'm curious what the threads looked like and mindset pre-6 heroes update, when the game was at 16k peak CCU on average and map + item update did nothing to player numbers...Also sex with Ivy.
This game isn't coming out until 2027 I'm assuming with how fucking slow these devs are.
I like playing vindicta but she can't do anything on her own, she wins a 1v1 against like gray talon and that's it, if you don't have someone to peel the drifter/haze/yamato/lash away from you it's over and if the enemy isn't occupied by your teammates you can't dps>>574634682the game is out, I'm playing it right now
Valve should add a horse to deadlock.
>>574634682open beta 2028release 2030
>>574635013Your Celeste?
>>574635057this reminds of the time i was playing on my psp and the flight attendant went apeshit like it could ever impact flight communications in any way or whatever their reasons are
it took me 700 hours to realize there is no point to spirit items, i finally took the gunpill
>>574635114That's a faggy unicorn, not a horse.
>>574634649You'd be hard pressed to find someone in this thread who was still playing back then, game was pretty much out of everyone's memory. Some probably thought the game was abandoned too considering we didn't know about the super sekrit club + hero labs was a complete failure.
>assassin gets impatient and dies trying to kill the support, like they won't pull 1500HP worth of shields out their ass>we take mid, and winI love this episode
>>574635013>>574635234why can't you tranime gacha pedophiles stay in your containment threads?why do you feel the need to spread your garbage in places where it isn't wanted?go back to your general, tranny pedophile
>>574635234>not a horse>posts Umashuh??
>>574635436NTA, but anime website.
>>574634649I started playing ( I think) in mid Summer of '24. I don't remember it being super doomer about playercount, especially since everyone was still inviting people in.There was a lot of stuff you could test via console commands + shit in files, so a lot of stuff being discovered. Then cursing Yoshi to release the next update, inhouses taking 40 minutes to fill (if at all), sexy Geist art. The works.
>>574635436No, YOU have to go back, election tourist.
Can I make another steam account and invite myself? I don't want people to see me play deadlock on main. And I don't want to see my 'hours played'.
>>574635565>>574635939>actual illiterate tranime pedophilesKWAB
>>574636249I accept your concession.
>>574636160you people really try and invent mental illnesses for yourselves
>>574636160Yes, but it's 5 dollars cause you need an activated steam profile.
>>574635436>>574636249/qa/ lost.
>>574636279see >>574636279
>>574634118>Playing as celeste laning with mirage: The sss+ teir hero lane demon. Against a victor and bebop>Mirage lets 2 denies go right in front of himOk this is alright. Just gotta poke a little>Mirage goes all the way back to the tower and hides behind it>I get poked to death and finished by a victor just running at me at the tower steps, trying to secure souls while Mirage runs farther back. Full Hp>Type "elo assasin in my lane" and mirage gets so mad he climbs the building beside the tower so he can watch me get 1v2'd with a bebop ult and victor. >Still manage to take victors ult with me. Then mirage flames me then says hes abandoning the lane.>Ok finally laning stage is over. I can recover. >Wraith vacuums up all farm, Venator is the only one making plays and he isn't even taking the game too seriously and having fun so hes fighting outnumbered most of the time. >Wraith fucking walks up while im taking a t3 camp, shoots every creep a few times and then walks away so I can finish the camp and give her 50%>Team doesnt coordinate so we fucking lose. It was just feed after feed and mirage sat in the back of every fight so he could run away and flame the entire team. >Post game stats. our permafarming 56k wraith and 50k mirage somehow are near paiges level of damage while shes running a full support build. >Open up mirages profile to see the damage aaaaaannnnnd"Undead Unicorn This user has also played as:Undead UnicornS7.RainbowDashS7.RainbowDash (RoodBoi)S7.RainbowDash(She / It / Brony)S7.RainbowDash (She / It / BronyTooR00dToInviteFriendszvenalotNotEnoughAoETooMuchSingleTargetS7.ZacksaPussy">Fucking KDA players...
this ability seems strong on paper till you actually use it and this happens 6 out of 10 times
>>574636849how the fuck does it seem strong? it fucking killed apollo
>chibis get a pass
So many people in this game think them getting mad is somehow owning you
>>574635234>>574635939>>574635565>Post gatcha games offtopic and type anime website then say they're trump supporter
add payload modeadd server browser with custom serversbring back 4 lane
>game died before it even officially releasedthis is so sad for valve
>>574637730low priority-kun...
>>574637875take your meds
amazing things happening in ritualist, I think he must have missed his 3 every single time, or at least perfect strikeI was in oracle 2, now I'm about to be ritualist 6 because game doesn't have unranked mode to learn characters
>>574637875I parry like this
me after every match yesterday because the matchmaking is so trash on weekends that the game honestly expects a support main to carry phantom retards in eternus lobbies. honestly my fault for even trying. 1-4
>>574634118FLIP FLOPPIN' TRANNY DEAD COCK
>>574639146>playing at any time that isnt NA primetime - 6:00 PM EST to like 11:30 PMIf you break it down, there just aren't enough players to actually have decent matches if you aren't playing during peak hours. The trough is ~27k but thats split between all ranks AND street brawl (and bot matches for that matter), so players queuing standard deadlock might only have a pool of like 300 players in their rank, most of which are in a game and not in queue
>>574638942>oracle 2>ritualist 6basically the same rank.
This is the only way to save this game.
>>574639727they really just need to match dogshit people with dogshit peoplethe stats are thereif you have 5 games or <50% winrate you can match these dogshit players together
>>574640271Why do you think there are 2-5 people going 1/9 in every game
DEADlockNO patchNO silver buffsNO moneyNO devsNO players
>>574639727>>574640271>>574640406they should unironically just make the game 5v5 for a month and see what it does for game balance.
>gives you 10/9*[your hp] ehp on top of investment bonus>gives you +1 to +3 effective stamina>heals you for ~half of your hp bar in early gamebut all of this insane value for one slot fell from fashion because>got nerfed to not have min 1 stamina restored and max restored stamina went from 4 to 3truly genious free thinking community
>>574640465how does this solve anything
>>574640502my hypothesis is that the game struggles to pool enough players into games and will often grab like 2 people out of desperation to fill the game. if the game were 5v5 to begin with then it would no longer need to do this. leading to more quality games, in theory.
I've decided that this thread will feature Silver.
>>574640475really it's more like>25 fucking charges for fuck all individual healing>gets raped to death by even a casual healbaneI miss when you could use it on others. I hope they change it back to 1 stam regen and give it decent healing. would happily buy it for 3200 if it were GOOD.
>>574640571this just fucks soul economy
>>574640718you would need to readjust soul economy to account for the reduced players yes. midlane would be solo.
>>574640571nta but then again a larger pool of people is easier to balance out since an outlier player weighs proportionally less to the outcome of the match. if an outlier player is 1/5 of the team his expected contribution is also 1/5. meanwhile larger lobbies the outcome of the match relies less on his contribution
>>574640475what if the enemy doesnt have 3 second cooldown spammable abilities, then it takes like 5 minutes to fully charge
>>574640805you can use it just for stamina and resists and its still good value. treat it like a stamina/ehp item with the added bonus of slight healing>>574640680healbane heals for less and will not save you when getting chased. it doesnt have resists and doesnt give you stamina. these items arent comparable
>>574640805yeah. they need to adjust how this item works. I'm going to suggest a rework on the forums. it involves receiving a charge automatically every 30 seconds.
>>574640980no I meant like healbane reduces the healing on locket by a lot. it's easily countered. sure the stamina exists but that's also easily countered by a hex or slowing bullets. the item has a lot of counters and it confuses me why they've left it in a basically unusable state in spite of that fact.
>>574641002>>574640805just being in a fight will ALWAYS give you a min 6 stacks if just two enemies use all three of their non ult abilities once. this is min 100 healing and 1 stamina iirc
I've suggested this.
>>574640980you literally need 17 stacks just for 2 stamina, its shit
>>574641203I think the unfortunate thing is when you're presented with trophy collector permanently boosting your SPM for winning a rift fight or taking some dinky little heal into a fight that's gonna be nerfed by healbane anyway it's pretty easy to side with taking TC.
What do you do VS death ball?Is there itemization or a macro strategy to counter it?
>>574642454splitpush with veilwalker
>>574640805so just kelvin?
>>574641725>>574641730out of curiosity what are your ranks? t. peaked top 1000 eu
>>574643132he has 5 grenades
am i bad or is boundless spirit just a bad item, im being dead serious
>>574642454hope your entire team has better aoe slop nukes and dynamo
>>574643683do catgirls have sekrit skills to pee like that?
>>574643141I'm top 700 EU >>574641730
>>574643601the trouble with it is that so much of its value has been shifted to when you have it MAXED. a lot of raw % there. but that only matters when you have a lot of it to begin with. they purposefully shifted spirit power out of the 2nd highest tier into the highest tier to make it more lucrative and it's just hurt boundless as an item. you basically just buy it as a cap stone at the end now, I feel.>>574643951they have penises
Is "CheckUr4skin" a cool profile name? Trying to come up with something catchy and iconic
>>574644398i think TunnelJew is catchier
Why 222 was the optimal team comp for ow and why it’s exactly the same for deadlockFundamentally what you are doing is creating a 3 body problem for your opponents. For those unfamiliar with the problem it’s from calculating orbits for celestial bodies. 1 is trivial, 2 is manageable, 3 becomes unmanageably complex. By running this split you are sufficiently computationally demanding enough while maintaining concentration to force the opponent to deal with each component instead of disregarding it. This concentration factor is also why I don’t like these extra roles like pick or assassin or roamer, etc. They are useful jobs but if you aren’t careful in your pursuit you may turn your team comp into a 2 body problem by tunnel vision on a less important factorTo put that into deadlock terms, a problem carry only needs to be cursed(trivial), a carry getting pocketed needs a more complex solution, a competent trinity needs magnitudes more
>>574644398>>574645179Nah you should go "ITunnelBlacks"
>>574645319wasn't OW basically just 1 lane slop with 'flank' routes that are literally just chokes adjacent to that one lane
>>574645319what exactly do you mean by 222tank dps support?that's just a universal teamplay role distribution well-known since at least dnd days
>>574645486Yes but that’s kind of besides the point, the principles still apply
>>574645769Yes however it seems to be too much(or not enough) for the deadlock pro community rn and they are lost in the sauce
>>574645891if it's too much for deadlock pros to play support it's just an ego thing and they need to shed those people and pick up actual support players. they need to add more supports into the game desu. PLENTY of carries/assassins/tanks atm
>>574645998they can’t even agree on roles as a concept, making balanced comps is downstream of that
I got top damage on my team and a positive KDA so it's not my fault we lost.
>>574645319>shoots at your walker>dispel magic + flame dashes awaywhat now nerd
>play brool>want to brool>have to babysit objective instead of broolinghotpoo is retarded and this mode is false advertising
>>574646802I’m not sure what you mean, if you are insinuating that splitpushing is outside this framework then I’m afraid you are mistaken
DEAD GAME DEAD GAME DEAD GAMEno update for 7 fucking months now! Dota 2! CS2! both got theres! at this point TF2, team fortress FUCKING TWO might get there update before us!!
>>574647190they're*
>>574647190Sorry every time Yoshi thinks he’s done I send him another paper that he hadn’t considered. Speaking of that….>the social golfer problem with adjacent group sizesFor teammate variance construction > Lappas, Liu, and Terzi 2009 For failure modes due to population thinness and their solutions
>>574647404they are update?
>gun builds are objectively better on every single character>i cant aim for shitthis is so sad
>>574648602>one of the best players uses a trackball Aim doesn’t matter
>>574648602>>gun builds are objectively better on every single characterLMFAO, what a fucking retard you are.>literally 1 gun item in the top 10 most built items in night shiftkys
>>574649057I accept your concession, ritualist tard.keep crying about gun when it's at one of the weakest points it's even been at.
>>574648706>gun build>Aim doesn’t matterhuh?!
you know he just uses a trackball to cover up his cheating right? "oh his aim looks weird cause he's on a trackball, duh!"
>>574648072no, not for a while
>stand still invis with veil walker AND behind a veil hiding >enemy dives straight through me and starts shooting exactly on pointits not even fun anymorenot only do i have to play with retards, i play against cheaters
>>574650741check the replay
>>574650741i've done this by accident before because the shaders on a skin mod I was using were set up incorrectly
>sinclaire casually does 3000 damage with vexing bolt at minute 30What in the actual fuck is this scaling? Reverb and Spirit Burn were hitting for 890 and 447 respectively.
>>574651249>he didn't keep his eye on the boltdeserved
>>574651249wait till you find out he has a ranged, non-channeled 10 second cooldown black hole
>>574624458>>574625878Late, but it was Archon.
low rank: retards just building whatever >oracle-low eternus: sweat sweat meta only builds>high eternus: retards just buying whatevermake it make sense
>>574645319>222 was the optimal team comp for owlollmao
>>574651927you ever seen that bell curve meme? vibes-based gaming is the most fun, only midwits disagree
>>574651989>moira>bridgettethis was after the game already died
>>574651927This should explain everything
>>574651379even if he steals it its not ranged retard
>>574645319Brother you do not know what the three body problem is lolSolving it nummerically is trivial for a 2nd year Bachelor student.
>>574652194he's talking about rabbit hex
>>574651927People who try the hardest tend to lose the most.
>>574651989I still think goats was a massive skill issue
why is the entire eternus eu community full of dense obtuse faggots I feel like I'm getting into some sort of argument with someone almost every game over the most basic things
>>574652946why are you talking to themalso its ego
>>574652203I didn’t say it wasn’t solvable I said it takes a lot more than 2 or one
>>574650847i dont need to
>>574652194>>574652237oh and it also has a damage amp and its a normal ability so it can be echo sharded :)
>>574652203Simulation is not solution
>>574653034It doesn'tNumerically it is essentially the exact same problem regardless of number of bodiesThe three body problem applies specifically to there being no analytical solution, ie. non integrable, for systems of >2 bodies.
>>574653305I guess 99% of all problems in physics and quantum mechanics are unsolvable then:^)
Take a nap kid.
>>574653594is the carpet visible at range to enemies when you're stealthed?
>>574653010Like I just had this experience where 3 of my team mates were just standing around farming a wave and I'm half hp doing the sinner right next to them and a drifter jumps me while I'm doing it. I'm saying over the mic clearly >"drifters invading, he's behind look behind"I run towards the tower, do some juking, he's been chasing me 15 seconds and finishes me off. I'm communicating over voice and pinging this guy the entire time. I cannot fight him alone and hope to win. My team is still just sitting around on wave. Keep in mind this is an e5 lobby. Then I'm like "why aren't you guys reacting" and some e6 faggot on pocket is like >"we were fighting we can't just turn around and deal with your problems instantly" And then I point out that there was no enemy on the lane on minimap and I ask how could they be fighting anyone.>"OH YEAH BRO YOU'RE SO PERFECT YOU PLAY PERFECT YOU NEVER DO ANYTHING WRONG YEAH NO". It actually tilted me. I had to deal with a yamato going 0-4 in lane and then I have to listen to that shit when I just ask for a bit of help while trying to recover. I actually hate high MMR players in this game. They're all socially retarded.
>>574653432They are, by definition Your still missing the point, if the opponent has to account for 3 variables its significantly more taxing than 2
>>574653682yes. its always visible no matter the invis
>>574653761No I'm not. It was a dumb "point" to begin with.How is 3 variables significantly more complex than 2? The jump from 1 to 2 is significantly more of a jump than 2 to 3. What about to 4?Like if the enemy team is full of M1s, itemization is trivial. Then you add a few spirit heroes, now your build has to vastly change. How much does your build really change after that if tanks or supports are added beyond maybe one specific counter item?You wanted to be le soience man when it literally didn't make sense.Also you played Overwatch beyond S1. kwab
>>574653594someone actually uses those health bars?
>>574654162I like them because they're cleaner and block less of the action, but they can bug out lategame.
>>5746541011*2 = 22*3 = 6Variables multiply complexity rather than stack additively.Dumb fucking nigger.
>>574654293they also block themselves so you have no idea how much health someone actually has
Dynamo and Seven should just not be allowed to be on the same team, ever
>>574654445generally dynamo needs a complete rework
>>574654445same with yamato and dynamo>haha yeah so BASICALLY you're never allowed do mid
>>574654360Retard. Your numbers mean literally nothing. Look at this:>1->2 = 100% increase>2->3 = 50% increaseI can do it too, moron. Now maybe address the rest of my post or reply with an actual example of your own.
>>574654601>x needs a complete reworkshut up retard
>>574654601what if black hole was just a 90% slow + silence + disarm like apollo ult and you could cast unstop or curse to get out of it
>>574654635>buys unstoppableproblem?
>>5746546971->2 = 100% increase 2->6 = 300% increase You fucking retard
>>574654751tell me how do you unfuck him? overpowered ult that wins the game by itself, op escape tool, I guess stomp could get it's damage halved but others are broken on foundational level
>>574654767i hope this post isn't trying to downplay dynamo ult and pretend apollo ult is op
>>574654771yeah the "problem" is that you aren't doing that before 20 minutes without severely gimping your build and guess what? if one of your guys gets picked they're immediately doing mid. immediately.
>>574652741you are retarded.
>>574654880>no example or argumentConcession accepted
>>574654901stomp has been nerfed enough. I don't think quantum should actually move people at all. teleporting people through walls is also retarded OP. remove at least one of these. his heals fine. the fact debuff resistance nor CC diminishing returns don't interact with his ult is a problem. 9s massive aoe stun is just boring as fuck. indomitable reducing CDR is a huge problem because now you're punished for using any sort of CC on him because he actively gets way more blackhole uptime because of it. you will see dynamos intentionally stacking into webs stuns etc to proc it. It's just retarded how that item functions. indomitable needs to lose the CDR completely.
Swap Riposte and Flying Strike.Yamato is now a powerful burst tank balanced out by shit mobility, and Apollo is a highly mobile burst hero balanced out by being easy to CC down.
>>574651249Sinclair is an epstein hero just like Doorman.
>>574654880Also I didn't even realize when I replied but>2->6 = 300% increaselol. What do you think "increase" means?
>>574654901what do you suggest they rework him towards?
black hole needs a cast time of a full second so you can reaction unstoppable it
>>574655482replace black hole with wormholecopy underlord's ult from dota 2 but with a pulsing slow/silence aura around itnow he's the pushing teamfight macro hero with zero kill potential
Warming up in aimlabs before playing deadlock to be at my top performance, because I respect my team.
>>574655746me? I'm on my way to seeker and I'm taking others with me
>>574655284>remove at least one of theseAgreedit's one thing being a fucking AOE Zhonyas but it also moves you AND works on your teamdisgusting fucking ABILITY (FUCKING ABILITY) that completely hard counters the entire kit of certain characters (Lash becomes unplayable if a sentient dynamo is in the lobby), displaces the fuck out of Mo ult, Holiday grab, etc etc.people talk about singu being OP but it's that disgusting fucking 2.I am SO fucking serious when I say this, it needs to be a FORCED 40 second cooldown with no way to decrease it.
>>574649512Most gun damage happens at 0.1m distance when you full stun the enemy
>>574655693>underlord's ult from dota 2isn't that just a global teleport? unless they reworked him, I haven't played dota in several yearseither way, that functionality is already covered by doorman
wow i love having leavers and first time mirages on my teamit makes its so interesting! its like solving a puzzle winning these games!
>>574656121doorman requires setup and isn't an ultimate, there are multiple global abilities in dota and no reason they can't have that in deadlock
>>574656258i had a first time Pocket a few days ago who said something like>"i dont get this hero. he is op when i play vs him but i can't do anything"then he died one more time and left, and then we lost a free 6v5 win because the enemy team already had a leaver.Like how do you not even look up the hero ahead of time? Isn't Pocket retard proof? How do you fuck that up.
>>574656352You can already cross the entire map in 15 seconds in deadlockGlobal abilities make positioning even more useless
>>574656514i think he has the largest delta of any hero based on played games
>>574656514Pocket is one of the only heros where in different situations, you have to press your buttons in a different order
>>574655056Nah ow comp was/is a joke and goes very very long time without adjusting
>>574656585>>574656714There's no way pressing majestic leap, 2, 4, 3, 2 is hard
>>574652741you could not have been above fucking silver saying shit like thisGOATS was a problem at literally every rank, all the way up to pro.this faggot post has got to be bait.
I want to have sex with Holliday
>>574656795well the problem is that for any of that to be significant you need to land your 1 first for amp. THEN you need to go in
>>574657309barrage amps?Never played Pocket, just going off what I seeFine, then majestic leap, 1 (in the air), 2, 4, 3, 2
>>574657294cute angry little cowgirl
epic draft :DDD
>>574657452yeah now imagine the enemy team team has several hexes and counterspells
>>574657132lol I was top 100 tank during goats, three tank too many, simple as
>>574657687What's wrong with it
>>574640475It was OP as fuck because it gave movement trannies another 3-4 stamina just for playing the game normally, and you could spam it to get 1 stamina back. It sucked.
>>574657809I find it hard to believe you were top anything and simultaneously thought that D.Va's reworked matrix and release Brigitte were okay
>>5746578394 m1 carries
>>574657691I was in that gameThey didn't, and this was his build. I guess the one thing that could've pulled him out of the air was a phantom strike on the enemy Doorman>>574657687Drifter frontlines bro :)
>>574658110viable
Have fun landing hooks as Bebop or rank up clicking on niggas as Nigfernus? Decisions, decisions.
>>574658275if you play nigfernus your rank is literally mickeyis that even worth it
Why do so many abilities need to be massive nukes that also have CC attached to them for no reason?Rem pillowHaze daggerDoorman everything
>>574658379At what rank does Nigfernus stop working? Donald?
>>574658521Pluto rank is usually where I see Nigfernus fall off
>>574658389because CC makes abilities feel impactful and good to land
>>574658379I play characters I like. Nigfernus is the most charismatic character in the game. It's simple maths.
>>574658575Every CC ability should be like Silver bola where it barely does damage CC is the reward itself
>>574658610stfu ivy put on some fucking clothes you whore
crazy to think there are ''people'' above seeker who got up there by picking mirage
>>574658560Pluto as in beloved Eddie Murphy movie Pluto Nash?
>>574658742Pluto as in Mickey's dogIt's a weird thing where his dog is higher rank than him
>>574658639so rem should deal no damage whatsoever is what you're saying
why does bebop making those boxing exhale noises he's a robot he doesn't breathe
>>574657809LMFAOO, I bet retard.
>>574658918His pillow shouldn't be a 1/4th HP nuke
>>574658995he takes roleplay very seriously
>>574659162its his only damaging spell besides his ult
why are we complaining about rem pillow when paige dragon is 10x worse
>>574659162most heroes can have a 1/4 HP nuke if they spend 18k souls on one abilityand then they're uselessif you're losing to pillow rem you're tomtom 3 at best
>>574658995he's a golemprobably doesn't change much but still
why is mina rake allowed to do 1900 damage as a normal non ult ability
>>574659401it's a symptom not the problem itself
>>574658389Asking for a Haze player to need to aim is like asking for a retarded child to stop shitting himself.
>>574659397Because knock up is more annoying.
>>57465863940 with 1.6 isn't nothing, especially paired with low CD, generous hurtbox, and the best CC in the game.
What does 'inting' mean exactly? 'low intelligence play' or something else? Guy said he'd 'run it down mid' if another player doesn't stop 'inting'
>guy wastes pause to be a quirky chungus>later begs people to pause for them because they need to shit or another emergencyThis happens way too often for my liking
>>574660363Intentionally feeding
retarded cocksuckers who are too retarded to say feeding
>>574660363it means spending skill points on intelligence.
>>574660363Going deep into enemy territory and picking doomed fights.
>>574660363Intentionally feeding aka dying to enemies on purpose to throw the game
how the fuck do I play venator, I feel like my damage is just too ass unless it's a stomp
>on a losing streak>enemies stay the exact same skill level match to match>my teammates become more and more retarded>lose every match harder and harderhow is this even possible
>>574660584Do you want the lame answer or the cool answer
>>574660706eomm
>>574660735both
>>574660706link to your statlocker?
>>574660706Because Yoshi loves putting braindead apes on the same team as you and expect you to carry them
>>574660909>lameRapid Recharge + Recharging Rush + Ballistic enchantmentYou just spam nades over and over again for the BE bonus and once someone falls under 50% HP you ult>coolGo balls deep in gun items, bullet resist shred is mandatory. If your lane opponent isn't an early game rape machine start with gutshot and rape them against the wall at every opportunity
>>574660706>lose a couple games>matchmaker sees you struggling and kicks you into a lower rank game>still uses your actual rank in the team MMR calc so your teammates have to be lower than the match average to keep things even>repeat
What's your favorite lane pair?I like Venator and Miku
>>574661396>still uses your actual rank in the team MMR calcare you sure about this? i always assumed it uses the hero specific mmr of the hero you ended up in the match with
>>574660329>and the best CC in the game.Stuns are literally better because they fully remove your control
>>574661601
Do I need the statlocker app or logging in the website is enough?
>>574661418Bebop Rem is optimal for raping
>>574659397we're complaining about rem pillow? What shit low hours is this...
brawl mode is better
>>574662080>yawn mode
>>574662080>brawl mode is bette->gets victor paige or seven on the enemy teamyeah no
GRAVES
>>574661221>shred on the pure dmg heroYikes
why the fuck is no one queueing in archon lobbies at 11pm on a monday in asia
>>574662715because they have work?
>>574662748damn i gotta get to phantom quick then
why the fuck am i always stuck laning against infernus and bebopi fucking hate those two with all the hatred in my soul
>>574662942what is stopping you from swapping out of those lanes at the beginning?>>574662602it's a left click hero, bro
healing is so stupid in this gameeither you have antiheal or you lose, and when it's this bad what's even the point, it's just a tax
>>574663572>it’s a left click heroOk then firerate max, don’t buy shred and have it do nothing for 1/3rd of your damage
>>574663686I prefer anti heal dynamics, it front loads the healer power to early game. If it didn’t then we’d either have useless heals or 2 hour fights late game
>>574663989what? I'm not the guy who says that buying shred on vena is wrong
on my way back to initiate while learning holliday
>>574663572no one wants to play against those heroes either
>>574664239I accept your concession
>>574663686>it's a m1ggers never buy inhibitor and crippling hs episodecrippling is whatever but why wouldn't you buy the best item in the game. i swear it's only just because it's green and not orange
>>574658094>>574659092This opinion triggers people timelessly. Rein+dva is enough. Also paladins went through a similar goats meta but even earlier and they skilled out of it(competed in both)It was unironically a more competitive scene which is hilarious considering it was 1/10th the size. Really tho it was all fugazi as evidence by what happened once the blizz bailout stopped
>it was a paladinstard all alongsaw it coming
>>574651927InitiateBVLL here, buy witchmail on every hero.
thoughts on using black hole to kill 1 guy?and also thoughts on the whole team being unable to kill 1 guy through a black hole
>>574664783honestly why is it not orange
>>574658389Because this is DotA 3
>>574665093you didn’t even know why goats happened, talking about matrix shield and bridgette is missing the forest for the trees
>>574634094Gooning
>>574665260>thoughts on using black hole to kill 1 guy?very nuanced, most of the time it's bad because longest cooldown ult in the game, refresher takes some of that pressure off once you have it. if it kills off the most dangerous guy on the enemy team it can work out.>and also thoughts on the whole team being unable to kill 1 guy through a black holematch is over at that point, doesn't matter might as well fuck around with magic carpet
Woow, Vyper is so powerful and cool, it's crazy how amazing she is. Probably the best deadlocker in the game. ez hard carry through rank. Perfect character all around and vary pretty also. Everyone wants to have sex with her, especially Lash.
>>574658389>nuke>haze dagger
What elo does witchmail graves stop working?
>>574665882- Posted from Internet Explorer
>>574665882it is a nuke tho, to carries that are her target
Honestly just remove echo shard from the game, some abilities shouldn't be able to be cast back to back. Wtf are you supposed to do against a sinclair with echo shard on his rabbit hex?
>>574662589why did the artist decide to make her look unappealing and give her hag proportions? why not make art of geist if youre gonna draw fatty hags
>>574666341nothing, enjoy the double 10 second cooldown 4 second duration non-channeled ranged black hole!
>>574666371fagbro...
You should always gets leech as your first item as warden
>>574666371go be gay somewhere else
>>574667046>online before the antiheal>big green investment early lets you trade degeneratively I see the vision
>>574667167When is the paradox rework?
>>574667291you guys want like half the fucking roster reworked
>>574667291I wouldn't mind reworking Paradox however not icefrog wants but I wish her thighs stay the same
>>574665260absolutely fine depending on the person. deleting their main carry in a blackhole is 20000% worth.
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>574658694alright
>>574667363march “update” was a mistake They never needed to listen to retarded downplayers and gives any old heroes buffs, and now niggers complain even more about the roster instead of the busted one or two new heroesThis is why niggers who beg for mm and balance changes will always be niggers. Autistic subhumans that will never be happy and want to spread misery to others by harassing these devs to devote time away from new content. Hope you’re happy with no content updates for 7 months retards because draft will totally solve everything (these niggers will still complain btw)
>>574665260>black holes 1 guy while the enemy team ignores it and fights us"wtf guys I black holed him and u didn't kill him">black holes the whole team late after 1-2 of us died and everything's on cd"wtf guys I black holed them all and u didn't do anything"
>>574670318MY hero should be good, great, amazing even, the best hero in the gameevery other hero should be garbage, not viable to play, and certainly not a threat to MY heroalso don't ban My hero and dont pick it only I can play it
>>574666541>>574667112im not gay i just like girls that look like graves
>>574660329>movement tranny trying to claim that a slowing hex that has to be aimed is better than actual stuns just because it turns off their ability to IAD into corner/edgeboosts and fly across the entire map out of danger for 1 stamina
i love when retards go 0/5+ in eternus and blame their team like nigga ur the problem just had a e4 match where my russian graves went afk for not listening to his call and apollo kept feeding after lane and finished with 7k dmg with 0 kills are they roleplaying as a toxic retarded couple or what? I genuinely hate EU so much Amerimutts don't do shit like this
>>574669350Why putting on the hat and pants made you green?
>>574665882>Has absurdly high spirit scaling and is super easy to land>Not a nuke
>>574665260just had this dynamo ult happen today. the rift was just about to finish but abrams was getting close to stopping the rift progress. he ulted him just before he could touch the rift and we got the rift because of it
>>574670318Yoshi if you are reading this post don't let it distract you from the fact that Hoodwink needs buffs.
>>574672706why isn't she fat
>>574672706Holy shit this is awful, I opened this webm for one second and immediately had to close it because of all the hideous mod choices.
>>574672706holy shit is that gogeta
>>574673069>implying roy mustang isn't cool as fuck
>>574670318I don’t really know how dev time works but isn’t balance only a small part of making new content?
>>574673110
>>574672706this is what gamers actually want, valve
>>574673292shut the fuck up
>>574672706troons will look you dead in the eye and say this is optimal enjoyment and not visual cancer>>574672563>old patreonVGH... SOVL
>>574673541>triple lane but still humpty dumpty patronsquite possible the least soulful iteration of deadlock EVER
>>574672706I will now play celeste
>archon game on NA server>half the times VC is calling Abrams "LeBron" because they're basketball americans using the looney tunes mod
and funnily enough the people satisfied with this update schedule are subhuman femoids, gays, and troons. That’s what’s left of this dogshit community after a massive content drought that removed all new and sane players. Just autists at high elo and the rest of the filth below>>574673292>reworking for buffs like they did in march takes a short timeno especially to retarded niggers like yoshit
when's new (sexy) Vyper model
>>574675378idk why they cant atleast dripfeed the new models atleastsurely they have more than one artist working on the game
>>574675556because big head-turning updates worked for getting the game back into the zeitgeist before so it's all they're bothering with
>mima shoots me twice and deletes 1/4 of my health>I have to dump a million bullets into them to apply afterburn for a fraction of a secondAh, the DLC hero crutch.
>>574675556I understand that from a "generating hype" point of view, and sadly everything works with hype nowadays... look at games like Shart Raiders that ended up being FOTM.If they bring out one big update with tons of changes it creates more excitement for normalfags that only think about Deadlock when it does the rounds on xitter or twitch.
>>574675778>>574675882Normally I'd agree but one or two model changes aren't enough to "generate hype" in the same way multi-hero releases are.It's more just a little bread crumb for the people still playing
>>574676030clearly they don't agree
>Bebop throws bomb on someone>"YA GOT SOMETHING ON YA, MATE">Runs away>Try this IRL>I get gunned down immediatelyWow, shit game.
>>574676142LOOKS LIKE YA GOT YOURSELF A LIL PROBLEM, MATE
>>574675840>nigfernus complaining about any other character balance except maybe miragekek you are the second most broken toon in the game retard
>>574675882yep, the current consoomers of today became goycattle that want to onions pog after being locked in their content drought chastity cage for months>go on dl groomcord>say this no patch for 7 months is awful>bunch of “she/they” and fags start spazzing out >dooooood i want it to be POLISHED>7 months would be RUSHEDjust complete utter goycattle everywhere
Enjoy your stay at T H E C U M Z O N E
>>574676030They're counting on people playing the game still being hopeless addicts who will keep playing no matter what. It's why they've separated the items and matchmaking into sub-updates so they can playtest the changes without the friction of new players.
>everyone slides around on but and knees all the time>pants stay in pristine conditionHow cum?
>>574676583magic pants
>>574676658Patron magic. No god = no pants forever.
I wanna one trick silver, whats a comfy build i can try that isnt meta? I just want to be a tank ala abrams and like billy.
>>574676987we should kill god in that casethese melonbreakers need to be free
>someone tells me i play exactly like metro in a game where we kept picking bad fights over no objectives> they also say "ty for the calico" who is 20 and 0>i call em out saying that we had literally 0 deaths during laning, and shes that fed becasue of all the stupid fights they kept doing>look up who metro is and watch a old vod>realize i actually do play like metromfw
what would the meta look like if deaths were permanent
>>574677545Lifestrike and restorative shot in every lane
>>574677483Built for consensual rape
Can I play Celeste full green with maybe Scourge?
>>574677194>I wanna one trick silver,Enjoy Seeker>buildJust get berserker and close range with a bunch of greens nigga.
>>574677810im oracle but lately ive been playing all sorts of characters. i always lean more into the frontliner support, again characters like abrams, victor and billy but i been all over the roster. anyways silvers 2 is really fun and i like proccing it, i just wish i could play her like a tank all game
>>574677810>Just get berserker and close range with a bunch of greens nigga.t. never played silver. you actually get slowing bullets and hunters aura with greens
Lately my game has been freezing and crashing out of nowhere. Never had this kind of problem before.Does anyone know if this is happening to more people after a new patch or something, or is it just me?
>>574677987He's gonna be tanking. He's trolling if he doesn't get berserker. Close range depends on the game, that I can agree to, same with hunter's aura. Slowing bullets is overrated.>>574677970If you like 2 go Spirit Snatch you get like half of your transform from one 2.
>>574677545It would never leave laning phase. First team to get a kill just snowballs because they can just go to another lane and make an uneven fightSo anyone who's good early/roamers
>>574676583btw, who has the coolest slide animation?
Just learned about this historical character called Doc Holliday I guess that's what Holliday is named after
>>574678330its her grandfather
>>574678290apollo
>>574678290Rem and it's not even a contest
>>574678290The Lash, of course.
>>574678290paige literally gets on her knees to suck black dick
>>574678721Quintessential American post
>>574678721how is this a cool thing
>>574678721Hang yourself
>Play calico>Get into some shit>about to die>hit pause>allchat "You wouldn't hit someone with glasses, would you?">unpause>die
>>574678785americans be like "I hate Israel" *jacks off to nigger cocks all day*
>>574679405The United States of Israel most assuredly do not hate IsraelMIGA, after all.
>>574679459it's gone mainstream brofree heckin palestine I love browndami and IR porn
>>574679405>>574679685miserable poorfaggot detected, weewoo weeewoo
>>574679782shut your mouth burger
Thread stinks like curry farts
I asked about fucking sliding animations, why are you talking about this, retards.
>>574680005If you think stinky jeets are the only people hating on mutts I've got bad news for (You)>>574680081You already got your answers
>>574680081Because someone ITT is obsessed with cuck porn. My answer is that it's a toss-up between Celeste, Doorman, and Infernus
>>574680081It’s the pillow slide and it’s not even close
>>574680568pocket does the same thing with the satchel, and krill does the same thing with mo
>>574678290Celeste, obviously
>>574678290pocket's briefcase riding has swag
patch day?
>>574681874No more patches, Will
I have no patch and I must scream
>>574681979YOU OWE ME
>>574680493>someoneamerica?
>>574678290i like the professor's slide
>>574682307Cuck posting has been scientifically and mathematically proven to be Indians every time, tho I do suspect that the majority are psyopers paid by the chinese
where is my blue big boob ixian woman with a fat tail and support kit yoshievery match its the same characters same builds same duration same everything
A "ni..." what, exactly?
i need cross hair recs, something comfy perhaps
>kill Mina>while she's dead, dive Nigfernus and kill him>low from the dive>Mina comes back and chases>kill her againMina players are not human
Guys, I had this insane idea. What if they just removed that bad parts about a Moba and just made the game good?
Post the top 3 heroes you think need to be removed from the game immediately and others guess your elo, i'll start>pocket>mirage>victor
>>574684145>that bad partsSo like the whole moba aspect of the game and made it into a pure shooter?
>>574684320Overwatch is right there if you want it, buddy
pov: yoshi released draft and you stole my silver pick
>>574684315Victor is fine, just remove refresher and he's reasonablePocket and mirage are valid hate, nigger op heroes
>>574684407dude they need to be careful he's about to go super saiyan or rasengan or whatever.
>>574684145The existence of bad is a prerequisite for the existence of good. It’s relative, if game always good then you would have no reference point besides other good, therefore it would not be good it would be the same. This suffering is conditioning you for your blessings
>>574684315OracleFor me it’s gt Yamato and kevin
>>574684320pure shooters haven't been good in like 20 years
>>574684315GravesMcniggerHolliday
>>574684315same as >>574685325 except replace graves with shiv
>>574684315>pocket>shiv>silver
>>574682515it all started with heebs
>>574674412>anon is unironically niggalo
>>574684489>Victor is fineno he is not lol, he's a braindead overpowered character who quite literally is the equivalent of W+M1 pyro if it were actually good.
>>574685907Like I said earlier he's only problematic due to Refresher, he's a joke otherwiseJust buy silencer little low elo chud, or beg your m1 team-mate to buy it.
>>574685907w+m1 pyro takes more skill than soldier and demoman combined.
>>574684315Pocket, Mirage, and Victor are good choices, hard to deny those are both boring designs and absurdly OP, they're fundamentally broken.I'd say...Shiv, Celeste, and Doorman. Similar reasons as I said above, they are all fundamentally broken characters at the conceptual level, you can't make Shiv balanced because he has no weaknesses and has superior movement, tankiness, and damage, as well as the fact that merely picking Shiv reduces the enemy team's max hp by 30%.Celeste is also broken because of her movement and auto-aim gun/abilities, you barely need aim with this character and she just cannot ever be good, or else it makes the game a miserable slog where nobody can interact with Celeste.Doorman is just a bad idea because the doors are too overpowered on top of his ult being obnoxious.
>>574684675
word through the grapevine is mlc broke up due to a disagreement over itemization100% it was a disagreement over tankbuster
"man lemme do 1 quick brawl match to kill time">holidaypunished for wanting to have fun
>>574684145They already merged the 2 currencies (XP and gold) into 1They removed click to moveThey removed the prevelance of global TPThey fixed the shop being 20 different variations of colored swords
>>574686335from rankbuster to teambuster...when will Yoshi's sinful hand be stopped
>>574686172I think shiv is salvageable if they just can bloodletting and give him something more assassin-esq
Just played streetbrawl as Ivy. I had to pick artic blast and now I have to ask, why the hell would anyone ever chose alchemical fire over artic blast? It allowed me to instantly root people and force them to take my entire combo by just pressing 1 button, it wasn't even enhanced. Alchemical fire does actually pitiful damage and people can easily dodge it
Buff graves ult
>>5746866136k vs 3k, purp vs orange, also you can just toss alch fire on a wave and rotate
>>574686580I partially agree, but the devs seem hellbent on keeping in yet another obnoxious and overpowered passive. I think pretty much every single passive in the game should be deleted since none of them are interesting in the slightest.Shiv players will cry that they can't 1v4 without bloodletting just because they threw two knives and are getting 4 constant radiant regen ticks though.
>>574684407This but Ivy. I literally cannot find any other hero fun
>>574676568clearly it's not working seeing as the game's still bleeding players weekly
>>574686580no tank should ever have an instakill unless it is earned after a long fight. to make matters worse, shiv doesn't even visually look like a tank at all
>population so low phantoms are getting into low eternus games
>>574687034Thematically he just makes more sense as an assassin, daggers, a dash, an execute
>>574684998Eternus 1>>574685325>>574685325Oracle>>574685783Ascendant>>574686172Eternus 3
>play two games of brool after like a 4 months hiatus>remember why I stopped playing this dogshit modewhat a nothingburger this ended up being
ITS HAPPENING
>>574687385no bro you don't get it, it's totally balanced that shiv has one of the strongest kits in the game and then also gets a 5th ability for free (shotgun alt fire movement) that makes him impossible to chase or escapeThe devs need to stop giving characters these free passives. Viscous alt fire is fine, Shiv's alt fire actually being a bunch of movement bug abuse is not fine.
DEADLOCK UPDATE:From the dev team we'd like to thank all of you who have participated in the play test of Deadlock™, unfortunately, the playtest is now over, and we will be shutting down Deadlock™ for the foreseeable future.It's been a long road, but our team needs to take a step back and re-evaluate what we want out of this game, our recent changes with the urn and rift were received so poorly that it has made us reconsider the playtest being open as it is now.Thanks again, Deadlock™ will return in the futrure!
>>574687915thank god
>>574687915deadcock being a closed beta again would unironically be the best thing to happen to it but valve doesn't have the balls
wtf the new update removed abhrams' clothes and gave him cock physics
>>574687553>3.3MB update
>>574688286>Valve>Actually balancing their games everLook at how bad Tf2 got over the years. Sniper remaining entirely untouched, Spy getting crutch weapons that invalidate all of his counters or just make him obnoxious to play against, Soldier and Demo never receiving any real nerfs.
>>574688359tf2 was never meant to be competitive it doesn't need balance.this is from a guy who played comp tf2 in like 2011
>>574688286No it wouldn't. It was the secret test club circlejerk that allow things like realease drifter, Billy or Celeste to be a thing
>>574688475It doesn't need perfect balance at all, that's not my point. My point is that some things in the game should have been changed for the sake of making the game more fun. Sniper was a mistake in TF2 since nobody can fight him at any range.
>*is the most op t3 in your path*
>>574684320You can keep some actual good parts about the Moba, some parts are clearly so shit I'm surprised full Mobas still keep them.
>>574688791That’s not bloodtribute tho
>>574687915DEADLOCK UPDATE (hotfix):Please send help, Gabe has a gun he's going through and shooting us all please god send help.He
What am I in for?
>>574687034the problem isn't the execute it's bloodletting though. hell killing blow isn't even that bad now after the reworks
>>574688791It's only OP on Shiv, it's balanced on basically everyone else.
>>574689423the most fun games you'll ever have
>>574689463it feels so good on anyone with some degree of tank and/or ability spam, like apollo or celeste
>>574688286you know they'd just pull the plug after they lose interest internally a month into it, don't delude yourself.
>>574689423Russians (If you're in EU), South Americans and Chinese (if you're in NA), cheaters, smurf accounts, and the mentally ill.50/50 chance of the worst match you've ever played or the funniest shit ever.
>>574688308What did Yoshi cook for us?
>>574689423unironically more chill and fun games than in regular matchmakingif this piece of shit had a server in my region i would genuinely, 100% throw myself into low prio at any given opportunity
>>574687034Shiv shouldn't exist, he's an abomination of game design and was by and far the most broken and overpowered character in the entire game on release, worse than release Apollo or Celeste.
>>574689728-0.005 spirit power for shivs knife
>>574688308lol medium sized updates are just worthless ones that update art and shitits over
>>574688791on certain heroes like geist, shiv, and apollo, it’s bustedwith everyone else, it’s actually so poop. Really situational to the point that no one talks about it
>>574689569>>574689602>>574689730Well I hope they're fun. I guess me voiping to my teammates as I played drifter that "'m going to rape myself", and "let's rape the enemy" or "I'm going to rape you paige" has netted me enough reports to get into low prio.
>>574689728-removed hero mmrThat’s your mm update
>>574689594the game was already in closed beta for months before it got leaked (and would have been played still if it wasn't revealed), so I don't think you're right
>>574690275It’s still alpha
>>574690340It's been in alpha for over 8 years and it's in a terrible state.
>>574690440Yea alphas usually suck because the core systems aren’t even done
Am I the only one here that still has a shitload of fun with this game?Yeah the matchmaker is kind of poop but the game itself is dope as shit
>>574688359I've always suspected that only hardcore gamer types care about balance, the average joe consumer doesn't care. I think companies still balance their games as kind of a passion project or fan-service, but the reality is whether or not a game "has a healthy meta or not" doesn't actually effect anything from a business standpoint.
>>574690573I have funSometimes I get 1/20 pedophiles on my team, but that's just queuing into random teammatesBut I still have fun
>>574690496The core systems ARE done and they suck.>Guns feel mostly bad and shooting is borderline performative since the only thing that matters with guns is stacking debuffs with them>Movement is just abusing source engine bugs and there is no tutorial for how to reliably perform these bugs, not performing the bugs is sub-optimal>3 lane design is bad, walkers are too wimpy, rifts and mid-boss are too snowbally>Urn sucks and will never be good>>574690573What rank are you? I got to Ascendant before finding the game entirely intolerable.>>574690625Good balance can usually result in better and more enjoyable gameplay, even if the regular gamer doesn't think about it except in the most egregiously bad states of balance, such as when the 'meta' in one of the battlefield games was using a full auto shotgun with explosive rounds to just rape anyone in view without them being able to fight back. Everyone hated that except the guy using it. That's kinda how Sniper is, everyone hates sniper except the person playing him.
>>574690573I enjoy it too, imo the matchmaker is not bad it’s just thin population, all mm sucks with no people to match. It’s also rank dependent, in eternus the mm is pretty bad but if your emmisary complaining about mm you’re probably retarded
>>574689423>remove the penal>>574689728is it just me or is this a stupid fvcking way for a crab to eatit's not like his hands are doing much at grabbing the foodwhy wouldn't you just stuff your face in the strawberry and eat it like a dogdo crabs have teeth
Just woke up, what was the update? Or was it nothing again
>>574690831The MM definitely isn't perfect but the duos + smurfs are the main culprit for why its such a shitshowPlease yoshi enable solo que only and remove anyone under steam level 5 to access the playtest.
Puddle punch shouldn't be parrieable
>>574690789They changed urn like 2 weeks ago and the jungle is still placeholder, balance will not really be taken seriously until beta at min
>>574690275>monthsanon it was in development for 7 fucking years. it was originally a half life inspired game or some garbage like that. neon prime came after thatit took them 7 fucking years to do this garbage and they're still nowhere near done and they have scrapped entire games out of content. if uncle dane the chomo main hadn't done his bullshit they'd still be chipping away at an even slower pace than they're working on now
>>574690971With how shit it is now? Yeah that would be fair. Back when it actually did damage I would disagree.
>>574690789>Good balance can usually result in better and more enjoyable gameplayyeah forsure I've just never been sold that you can move the needle on player numbers just through balance changes. Do I still like and enjoy balance changes? Yeah sure, but I also think a game like Deadlock could NEVER implement any balance changes, never touch any heroes or their numbers post launch/after they drop, and you still have a 20,000 player game or whatever the number is. It sounds weird I know, but it's just my suspicion. Balance changes have a smaller effect than people think.
>>574690573I do, playing other games when I burn out of dl helps too
>>574690573I like the game, there's nothing quite as intense and strategic like it, but the fact the win condition revolves around making it so that the other team cannot even play from minute 1, which only gets worse and worse as the match progresses, as they try to do the same thing to you, will always lead to issues which can EASILY be exacerbated by poor balancing, forced and boring one-dimensional builds and insane scaling, problems which are all present in the game right now, and have been present for years. It is physically impossible not to get frustrated at the devs
>>574691074I said months specifically referring to the more modern vision of Deadlock, I assumed the whole pipeline from citadel with first person view and antlion creeps to Neon Prime up to its rebranding was maybe a year, not seven, lol
>>574691242I can't agree with that in a game like Deadlock, the balance is just way too awful in this and there are a small handful of characters that are ball-bustingly overpowered, and another larger handful of characters (at least half the cast) that are just not fun to fight at all, which is both a balance and design failure.Characters like Shiv, Mirage, Wraith, Celeste, Apollo, Graves, Victor, just to name a few, are all examples of both of the categories I described above. Graves in particular is either OP due to her numbers being too high, since she is a characters that plays the game for you, or she's bad but still annoying because her numbers are too low to stat-check people. She's not OP right now but she's certainly the most hated character next to Doorman, I think.
>>574690906This crab has table manners
>>574691321The complete silence by the dev team combined with them refusing to EVER explain any of the changes they make doesn't help with people hating the devs either. Especially when they do retarded shit like 'rework' Shiv as an excuse to make him overpowered when they roll back one retarded change (melee damage) and then just leave all the other buffs in place.
>>574691321>the win condition revolves around making it so that the other team cannot even play from minute 1This is something I hope the item update fixes, I get that this is dota balancing and counterbuying is important, but when more than 50% of your build is counterbuys instead of fun items you actually want to build it becomes a problem for everyone. It's not fun for the person buying counter items instead of the ones they actually want to build and it's not fun for the person being countered for obvious reasons, and when the whole lobby is like that the game becomes significantly less fun. This game becomes considerably less fun the higher you climb it's insane.
>>574692040Dispel Magic and Counterspell should be removed entirely imo, they're just too good. You can't stack debuffs on someone since they Dispel it, you can't use powerful debuffs on someone since they dispel it, it's just a shitty item design. It doesn't help that you are actively helping someone by giving them a debuff that they then purge and get a heal from.
>>574692040I only buy 1 counter, 2 max, it’s not worth to go beyond imo Also the win condition is defeating the patron, all that other stuff is real but please call it something else, it’s difficult to discuss when people are using wrong definitions
>>574692263good job, vindicta is now completely unplayable forever and infernus is even more cancerous
>>574692592just make it so her fully upgraded 2 makes it so she stays floating while stunned
>>574686580the execute and the free dash on alt fire are what break shiv. getting rid of bloodletting and replacing it with something "assassin-esq" just turns him into a budget calico.
>>574692592Dispel magic solves a problem that only exists because dispel magic exists, if it wasn't in the game debuffs wouldn't be allowed to be as broken cancerous as they are
>>574692040>I get that this is dota balancingI think they have plenty of time to pivot into a more fun moba balance. Dota is growing on me as a nice, strategic game to figure out, but it's not my style.LoL, Smite, Tome: Immortal Arena, HoTs gave me much more freedome to build whatever (within reason), but I don't have to pay the "buy the [x] tax or you're gonna get displaced" like I do in Deadlock. Even if I did at one point in those other games, shit like that got changed over time, or the displacers aren't also chunking you for 1/3 of your HP to begin with.
>>574684315bebopinfernuswraithhonorable mention: haze
low prio lobbies are something else
>>574692592Both flying characters are bad designs and don't work in a game where most of the cast can't even shoot at them properly due to absurd damage falloff. Infernus is annoying but not broken.The devs are creating their own problems with bad item and hero design and then refusing to fix them because 'durr it's an alpha we can't try and balance things in an alpha!' and you have retards like yourself crying about necessary changes to make the game better.Like >>574692887 says, the debuffs are all way too strong which means something like Dispel Magic needs to exist to purge them, so instead of making it so the most egregious debuffs are brought more in line (almost all of which are damage over time effects or resist shred effects) they just added a stupid item that doesn't really fix the problem. Drifter's stupid-ass mark, Shiv's knives, decay, escalating exposure, all of these are way too strong and justify adding something OP like Dispel Magic, but all that does is make it so the best way to hurt the enemy team is with stacking debuffs like escalating exposure that can be constantly re-applied anyway.Dispel Magic and Counterspell also invalidate any delayed effect like Seven or Warden's CC abilities.
>>574693227Is Victor AFK?
Where are the leech buffs?
>>574684315low phantom>>574684998emissary>>574685325arcanist>>574685558ritualist>>574685783ascendant>>574686172high phantom>>574693106initiate
Who is T4 spirit supposed to be good on? DoT characters?
>>574693364No he is moving around the map but afks in random spots. Last time he was in a random veil in the subway. The seven is throwing the game because the yamato was against him last game and won.
Almost climbed up to Phantom from Ritualist with my wife
>>574693538>The seven is throwing the game because the yamato was against him last game and won.My petty king
>>574693465Correct, I bounce between Phantom 5/6 and Ascendant 1 depending on how retarded the matchmaker is. The game stops being fun in Oracle and beyond.
>>574692263>everyone is just stacking up CC and debuffs through itens and abilities>let's remove the stuff that can be used to counter those thingsGo fuck yourself, every single character has some type of Silence or Slowing Hex-type of ability and you think this is good design?
another worthless patch has hit the servers
>>574684315>mcginnis>billiam>ivy
>>574684315PocketKelvinDoorman
>>574684315>Doorman>Shiv>Mirage
>>574693875>Every single characterWhat slowing hex or silence does Abrams have? Or Seven? Or Yamato? Or even broken characters like Pocket or Shiv?Slowing Hex is an item that shouldn't be necessary but due to movement bug abuse that the devs somehow think should remain in the game, it is necessary to buy because otherwise people can be wildly out of position but then just do an IAD into a corner/edgeboost and fly across the entire lane for 1 stamina.
they need to make divine barrier cleanse both the user's and the recipient's debuffs.
>>574684315VindictaGrey TalonSinclair
>>574693891adding more hero-specific lines to the urn when its being run, no doubt
>>574693645Uh no way, silver is soooo weak... you see your problem is you aren't playing in the secret elo that isn't eternus or ascendant but also everyone knows exactly how to counterbuild and counterplay silver
>>574694093>Icefro- I mean, Yoshi, players are not satisfied with basically any part of the game right now, and player count has been on a downward trend for months>"Make the urn gayer">"What?">"Make. The urn. Gayer."
You guys are thinking about this way more than the devs do
>>574693875so you think being forced to buy the same item in every single match, in a game about adapting and strategizing in real time, is a sign of good design?
they should replace street brawl with tf2 passtime.
>>574694461they should make it so that I can marry Ivy IRL if she wants to
>>574692821Sort of agree on the alt fire but it’s be fine on a squishy hero, but also that’s changing 2 things vs just bloddlettingI think execute complainers are just wrong and bad too
A guy just got banned for just questioning why the Deadlock discord still has the pride flag now that pride month is over. He didn't even say any trigger words. It took 45 seconds.
>>574694721Shiv is just a broken design and should be removed or reworked entirely, like a good third of the cast now.
>>574694434I think they need to nerf the duration on most of these silences and itens that have debuffs before removing Dispel from the game
>>574693465Wrong I’m obscurus
>>574694759the mods are all trans, are you surprised?
>>574694759no one cares
>>574694759yea you cant really touch the alphabet peopleI go there and call them disabled and brain damaged, even sometimes saying yoshi is getting hemorrhoids from his ass being blown outI never talk about the lgbt people though
>unemployed white monkey crying about le hecking cord reddit dramaErrm yikes, no one cares lmao
>>574694759keep us posted on the latest discord drama
>>574692040that's because in DotA you only get (realistically) six item slotsbuying any counter item meant you were actually sacrificing a large portion of your potential to solve a very specific problemit doesn't matter in Deadlock because you can buy every counter item and still have several slots to spare
>>574694461sorry third party company has the rights to it that they never did anything or will do anything with it ever again
>>574695135>>574695038>>574694904>>574694928I know they are insane, but the guy literally just asked why.
>>574694759it's almost as if trannies subconsciously or consciously take control over every single online community because deep down they know they are living nothing but a lie, and so they need absolute control over everything, including what people are allowed to do, say, ask or see to make sure the illusion is never broken for even a single fraction of a second, in a desperate and selfish attempt to feel validated about themselves which will never be satisfied until they either kill themselves from their self-imposed stress of trying to fight reality itself at every moment or simply accept the truth and try to live relatively healthy lives, huh?
>>574695296>>574695345Shit no one cares about.
>>574695135>>574695345>>574694904>>574694928>>574695038So they're talking about this. In the official discord.
>half the thread is off topicYoshi…. Please… buff on hit passives idc do ANYTHING
>>574695296>>574695521when I said "keep us posted" I did so with sarcasm, I didn't actually want to know what the discord trannies were talking aboutthis is like the third time I have to explain sarcasm to people on 4chan, I'm starting to think that retards here are now the norm and not the exception
>>574695662SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT DOWN. DADD- I MEAN, AUTHORITIES PLEASE DEFEND MEdude, please. There are no rules on what you're allowed to talk about. Why don't you try actually arguing instead?
What if Mina was black and had bigger titties?
>>574695296>>574695521i care about itcant wait for deadlock to have tranny shit on it during pride
>>574695296This is the community discord, not the official one.Also they were talking about their estrogen experiences earlier today, so its best to keep your distance from these tranny freaks.
>>574695296>>574695521Then they're the first ones to cry about censorship kek
>>574690573Game fun I like. It feels like old LoL to me how both the casual and competitive aspects are fun
why do retards keep echo sharding skulls on GravesThe wall is so much more fucking AIDS
>>574695873>I'm starting to think that retards here are now the norm and not the exceptionThey are and have been for a long time. Sarcasm is a genuine lost art on here. It's like reddit now but nobody uses the /s. I'm honestly convinced most of this board, and /v/ especially, are third worlders using translators to communicate.
>>574695915what if ivy was black and had even bigger titties?
>>574696452I like having a skull army
Why are you posting tranny shit from a non official discord
>>574696452it's not even just the fact you can drop out two skull armies back to back, it's also about using it off cooldown to build up the charges to begin with. being dry on that hero is a nightmare. the double wall is aids though yeah. wait until people start utilising paradox walls alongside the roots so you can't move anywhere
>>574696834Worth remembering that nothing is sacred. Unrelated but the car next to me is playing gangnam style
well lets see some discord faggot felt compelled to blog here about what he witnessed in a discord server and then a bunch of other retards felt compared to dump paragraphs about trannies any other questions
>>574696452Why do people echoshard anything at all the item sucks
>>574696834Probably some bored shartyfag trolling the thread, ignore him he'll go back to grooming minors or posting pizza elsewhere.
He deadlockingly locks his way across manhattan deadingly so.
>>574696625i press q once and your entire army is gonemeanwhile if you echo shard the wall i have to contend with not being able to move around half the teamfight while 4 aids zombies come at me from different angles to do one gorillion damage
>trying to play a support >1 enemy splits away from their team>stunlock him for 3 seconds straight>my team just hovers around him ineffectually like a bunch of flies>CC runs out>enemy still has half his HP left>just fucking leaves back to his teamwhy even bother
>>574695521>>574694759why are you in tranny discords?To argue with them? No, they're the enemy. Plain simple you don't argue with the enemy. You prepare and wait for the signal.
>>574697249Who wins, infinite zombies or the humble wall jump?
>>574688791this item is OP
>>574696834>>574697393I genuinely thought it was the official Discord
>>574697435okay now imagine a fight on rift and the walls are under the bridge such that you cannot jump over it without going on top of the bridge but you need to get to the other side of the fight asap or your team gets wiped
>>574697494Oh sure you did bud. Just be real I bet you wanted to fuck some mentally ill man. Then you jacked off and realized what crime against yourself you were about to commit.
matchmaking update status?
>>574697742A few more weeks
How much longer until we get a dragon hero? I want to start evil maxxing.
>>574697249Yeah but they're funny
Anyone got that art of Abrams at a ballot box
>>574697017>tales from obscurus
>>574697435NTA, and I really wish Graves was a summoner instead of another m1 with cc, but skull are kind of worthless if people attack them. You'd have to cast them while the enemy is distracted, while you're also shooting at them, and that point why even bother with the skulls?
>>574697860If it isn't at least twice the size of a regular hero I don't want it, I don't care if it can't go inside some buildings
When are we getting a hero that wears a hoodie? I want to start edgemaxxing
>>574697574Im imagining myself jumping on the nearest wall which is no more than 5m away and flaming my team for eating dick
>>574698000You will never have a real summoner. Look how much people fucking cry about Graves.
How much longer until we get a chinese hero? I want to start rice maxxing.
>>574698182No one wants a big fuck off insect hero
>>574697996I accept your concession
How is Rem expected to do damage if he doesn't go pillow? Why must it be pillow OR healbot?
>>574697860Ivy is right there>>574698092Drifter is right there>>574698182Mina is right there
>>574698245Speak for yourself
>>574695296so glad I left that shithole
>>574698423>confusing a chinese with a koreanI thought you faggots were racistmaxxing
>>574698020it always baffles me how Paladins managed to include a boss as a playable character years ago and how Valve have not attempted to do anything as creative
>>574698397Best rem is helper push rem but heal rem should be taken out back and shot
>>574635436damn, I wasn't planning on posting in this thread, but-
>>574698586That hero sucked 2bh and marked the Eos(end of soul)People kept drafting for hp so they decided to add a 10khp that was so shit that people finally stopped
I am Ritualist/Emissary and I can't perform on any hero other than Viscous, and I'm usually MVP on him. Why is this? Isn't he supposed to be the mechanically intensive hard hero?
>>574697308I've had this happen on rift fights while my entire team is just standing around. Like I am literally pinging the guy, using my mic to tell people clearly "focus venator, stunned, hexed" and like he just walks away
>>574698852Lolno goo and cube are busted
>>574698852not really, if you understand how to position your punch you have basically solved 85% of his mechanical issuesthe last 15% are flinging yourself with the punch when you need to bail
>>574698852Your brain is fillled with goo, you can't move without goovement, you can't shoot without goollets, you can't support without gooport.You are goo.
How much longer until we get a speedster hero? I want to experience fun for once.
>>574636160this is such a strange mental illness
>>574698602>do helper push rem>build the heroic aura>my team never uses the map pressure to push anything>lose the gamethat hero is so frustrating to play I have like a 25% winrate across 18 games or something. most of that was pre-buffs but he still feels as helpless as ever when you get a shit team. it's not like seven where you can just farm off the back of space and wind up carrying. you're a support. you're reliant on people to not pussy out and break LOS with the rest of your team the instant you nap time them. I legitimately don't know what way to play him. I'm e5 and struggling so hard with him.
>>574636323>>574636160protip: add $5 to the alt account, invite yourself, then refund it
>>574699301Oh I don’t buy heroic, there is no time. I just helper the heal creep and then rotate to the next wave. Waves every 30s so I have about 10s to rotate between and hit each waves heal creep, tossing my extra on the room with all the boxs
>>574699558I've been dumping all of my helpers on one wave and heroic auraing them. is this just wasteful?
>vaguely zoomzoom characters (ivy, graves, apollo, mina, pocket, rem?) put on white girl shit at jezebels to celebrate >all die of exhaustion trying to go move for move with driftercanon
does apollo lube his shoes how the fuck is he able to slide like that
>drifter is so broken right now!>look inside>enemy team plays like retards and feeds drifter infinite stacksmight as well say bomb bebop is broken right now
>>574695915What if Celeste was black and had a big penis?
>play support>teams are a 50/50 between "my supporting is helping" and "they just ran it down and we're gonna lose">actually play non support non>try to push with teammates, help peel off chasers, act as backup, make jungle skirmishes unfair>this is somehow even worse for me and I end up throwing games>try carry/hard dps>9 times out of 10 lose 1v1s without backup or some level of bullshit to make it away alive/get a killFuck...
>>574700292>play support>can enable decent-good players to be great>play carry>basically fucked if your draft has 4 hard carries and they all want to be the star
>Play support>Game goes out of its way to find 5 chimps to put on my team
>>574698161Because Graves takes literally 0 skill to play.
>graves takes zero skill>worst lane>shit farm for 20 mins>ult can get cancelled with two heavy punches>jar of dead can be light meleed>no range or damage on gun>essence theft barely works>root takes three years to activate>2 stam>same hp as calico and haze but without any of the special toolsHuh?
>>574701774Your braindead easy to play character can never be balanced no matter what, deal with it or pick another character.It's one of these characters that will always be despised no matter how bad they are, like Yuumi in league or Sombra in OW. It's healthier for the game as a whole when they are in their most unplayable state.
>>574701774shitters cried because people can't melee the skulls in initiate
>>574702050sombra is less braindead than all of the perma meta predscans in OW.
>>574702050Tomtom-kun...
>>574701774Don't take the bait so easily next time fellow graves bro.Some anon mentioned reading controversial reddit post some threads ago and I decided to check it out. There's a graves there and its funny to read shitters complain about her.
>>574702050you just named a support that gives buffs without doing anything and a character from a woke game made by rapists without even attempting to explain anything about how Graves is poorly designed
>>574701774You forgot to mention one thing>Doesn't have to aim literally anything at all besides a gigantic wall that is as wide as an entire lane
if character I block appears in my lobby I just throwif the game doesn't respect me how can I respect the game
>>574702529pic not related btw
>graves is braindeadAbrams? Bebop? Billy? Drifter? Infernus? McGinnis? Mirage? Mo & Krill? Pocket? Shiv? Venator? Victor? Vyper? Warden? Wraith? Yamato?
>>574701157Nah it's more like>Play a hero I don't normally play to try expand my hero pool a bit>Game gives me the most retarded monkeys imaginable and queues me up against a 6 stack immediately>Discouraged from trying and go back to just playing the same 3 heroes foreverand then people wonder why people smurf
paradox players' brains must be donated to science
>>574702643>Has to aim her ult>Has to aim turret placement since they don't chase people through walls
Don't care. Buff Graves and Silver.
People who consider aiming to be this super hard skill on hitscan heros are just telling on themselves
>>574702613why dont whiny fags like you just stop playing the game then
>>574702996>>Has to aim her ulta giant aoe is sooo hard to aim>>Has to aim turret placement since they don't chase people through wallsYour Q button???
billy is the strongest hero in the entire game. idk why they buffed him so much when he was already so strong
>having to aim is a skillGun Rem must be super strong then
>you can dash during flight as vindicta>but only if you rebind your flight keys
>>574634094>taunts in DeadlockWould that be a good idea?
>>574703127try to hit all your shots on a stamina mastery celeste/holliday and then get back to me lol
>>574703532Try keeping within your gun range as graves and then get back to me lol
>>574703684>gun you don't have to aim has a downsideyou areretarded
>M-MUH LE AUTOAIMCry more
HOLY FUCK IS THAT A 40 DPS AUTO AIM GUN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Ok guys what do you think of my reddit bingo card
>>574703725So you admit it has its own issues to deal with?
>>574703127The only people who say aiming isnt a skill cant aim.
Geistbros... are we... braindead?
>>574703873that wasn't what the conversation was about
>>574703851just have a card that's one space that says "EoS announcement" that's more realistic
Graves complainers won't be happy until she's essentially this
>>574703851you forgot "the buffed get buffer, the nerfed get nerfer"
>>574639146Since it's 1v11 anyway, just go full green and play Mario Kart at the enemy's base.
>>574703945what a slut>>574703851I think it's missing the most important, and the most probable square - the no patch square (might as well make it the free space one)
>>574703937Aiming is a skill, but it's not the super hard skill you guys make it out to be.
>>574703189McGinnis ult is defeated by getting in her face or just stunning her. Graves ult can be placed in locations that are physically impossible to reach or are so far behind the front line that going there is a waste of time. I understand that you need to cope that the easiest character in the game isn't actually all that easy, but Graves does in fact require no skill at all to play.
>>574704181the skill floor and skill ceiling of aiming is basically infinite, there are times when it is the most mechanically demanding part of the game, it's difficult
>>574700013drifter listens to classical music only
For me it's not even the autoaim its her dropping ult in a random lane and you have to be stuck there shooting zombies for a whole minute to defend the walker
The only argument Graves players have against her being brain dead is precisely the fact that she sucks. Which is fair until you start arguing she needs buffs at which point it's self defeating.
>>574704217So if she takes no skill why aren't you playing her?
>>574704065She shouldn't be in the game in the first place.
>doorman has the gall to call any other hero a "pedophile hero"
Saying aiming is a skill is like saying pressing 1-4 is a skill
graves faggots are the same people that play grapplers in fighting games and complain that they're bad
>>574684407Its insane that video was real. Feels like Im back in 2015/2016
Remove m1ggers from the game.
>>574704217>2 stamina>no mobility abilities>low hp poolShe only doesn't require skill in pisslow where the enemies won't abuse the fuck out of your squishy immobile ass
>>574704065this is what silver is now thoughever
>>574704420Actually I play Mewtwo
>>574704504Remove yourself from the world.
>>574704567
There is no hope for July. No hope.
>>574699970I wouldn’t say wasteful but you aren’t really leveraging their ability to do things in different places if you always stack themMost the top rem just heal it tho
>>574703947Graves being braindead is what the conversation is about, you just admitted she has issues to deal with in her gameplay, which makes her have to play around them and thus not braindead.
>>574704065she already is this. Every single one of her abilities is worse than it was on release, especially her ult which is now dogshit.
>>574705018the post i replied to (which was not replying to anyone) said that aiming is not a difficult skill
>>574705075She's only going to get worse brah they're still complaining about her in her current state.
>>574705001would it be viable to just rotate between two lanes and pop 2 helpers on each whenever sinners aren't up?
>easy character with obnoxious tools is easy to counteronly people that want buffs are the people that can't manage to play any other hero at a competent level
>>574705094Fair but that post was obviously in response to the general conversation in the thread
>>574662589She has a very strict mentor, so where are the spank marks?
As a certified Street Brawl enjoyer, I hope Graves gets worse. Right after they break Vindicta's knees.
>shredding people with Light Eater and free mega heal if I use my ultI fucking love celeste
>>574705617and cock in my ass*
>>574704976on july 30th, 23:59:59 yoshi will release the patch...
As a Graves player she should get worse just so I can laugh harder at you faggots for dying to her
>>574704976Even hero's of the storm and TF2 are getting more love then us at this point
>>574634094RAAAPE!!!RAPE RAPE RAPE!!!!
>>574698480Hell yeah, but what would the mothman being doing in New York?
>>574707198attending the ritual
>>574684315>doormanhis ult is fundamentally busted with his doors and his ult its too easy to split up teamfights, hes got a pretty good gun and hes got AOE damage with his bells and kidnap builds are some pure horseshit. Counterplaying him is not fun and feels like your spending a ton of souls to do it compared to other characters.>VictorThe dumbest fucking idea for a character ever. Getting 3 revives with refresher and rejuv is insane, worst part is his entire kit is just buying sustain and running at people with his aura and spamming his 1 (which doesn't need aim) and it genuinely works against most of the roster and hes basically damn near impossible to punish because ultimate>CelesteOverloaded as fuck kit, 4 base stamina, more AOE the size of texas bullshit, a shield to let you not get punished for mistakes and an ultimate that shouldn't be that powerful but rapes entire teams because players are retarded. Shes honestly the least horseshit of these 3 though.HM: Geist/Haze: Such low skill ceilings to shit out insane AOE damage/burst damage with no effortHonestly if they gutted Echo Shard and Refresher and maybe didn't let Victor and Haze scale regen/mag size with spirit it would go a long fucking way to balancing some of these niggers.I also only have 100 hours so if im missing obvious bullshit characters then its because I genuinely have not fought them more than 1 or 2 and/or have been on a side that was stomping them in soul count for their BS to not affect me at all.
>>574703851My boy Slork is fucking DEAD. The devs actually turned his ass into a fucking STEW, they used his bones for the broth!
Flooding Ivy's ivaries...
>down 30k>Wraith complaining about getting solo farmI have never seen this before
>>574707736>rivals tourist whining they cant teamfight immediately after lanemany such cases
Why did no one tell me how broken witchmail victor is? I can just spam Jumpstart literally every second
>>574691412bro.... current deadlock has been out to the public in this closed beta for almost two years now............
>>574703516Fuck yes, imagine doing one those irish tap dances after heavy meleeing someone to death as Venator.
>>574707936>cheats
>>574708525I was referring to the actual closed beta/alpha/whatever you want to call it, specifically in the period after it got aesthetics update to the current Deadlock setting, but before it got leaked and went "public"
>>574678290shiv
I'm going back to playing this game only during NEET hours. Had a game where a leftard was getting baited by a magatard instead of playing the game. Then another guy said his wife needs something and left. What the fuck even is this is this what pisslow players have to deal with on a daily basis? Like I can't even reliably climb back to ascendant because the quality of my teammates are so bad replacing them with an actual bot would be better.
>>574708976I've had people go on rants about me calling someone a nigger it's just funny to me. Like I'm going to keep calling people that. You're not going to lecture me into not calling people that. I'm not pursuing a pro career out of this dog shit game. I literally do not give a shit how bent you are.
G-guys... I don't think Silver or Venator are for me...
>>574708798then it's probably closer to like, 3 or 4 years i guess
>>574709239I find it funny I end up getting more invested into the two people arguing than playing the game. I've even had someone give up because someone said nigger. I know it's my fault for losing so many games that I'm phantom in oracle lobbies. But holy shit man these people are something else.
>saying the N wordTroon behavior btw.
>>574672563yeah I think I outright prefer the old pit. everything is easy to see and it also mandated the enemy team actually get together to finish it off, or at least have their M1 have enough time to finish it solo
>log on>two losses>log off>next day>log on>two losses>log off>next day>log on>two losses>log off:(
>>574711598this game's matchmaking is so bad... yet I can't bring myself to uninstall this dogshit
>>574703851aren't new items and ranked update practically confirmed by yoshi?
>>574711780I'M GOING TO QUEUE ON SUNDAY AND MAKE YOU TWO WATCH
>>574711780it's not even the matchmaking at this point i just feel so disheartened playing and feeling like i'm doing good things and losing anywaysi don't even care what my teammates are up to anymore man i just wanna not suck
>574710550
>>574711780I uninstalled it the other day. Was on a win streak and was close to being promoted out of Alch after very few games and the game decided to keep pairing me with yamato's and abrams that insist on 1v6ing the enemy team and going double digit deaths back to back to drop me all the way back down to seeker 6. Fuck this game. Not wasting my time with shit that grades you purely based on whether you win and let other people fuck you over and have the gall to call it "skill based matchmaking"
>>574712546If I may say something. I've climbed to the top. I am in the top 500. Retards never stop ruining games. They just ruin them in slightly different but impactful ways.
>>574712628I guess my problem is that I assumed i could climb as support. I could swap to a carry but I already have such a sour taste in my mouth I cant bring myself to give enough of a shit.
>>574712546>seeker stuckeryeah idk man maybe Deadlock isnt for you
>>574712886you can climb as a support. I am one. you're just going to take longer to climb in solo queue than you would playing carries because of how uncertain games can be.
>le "everyone is the problem but me mm sucks" faggotshave you ever considered you could simply play better. how do you think pro players get to eternus in solo queue?
>>574713169I explicitly told you how my team would int>>574713351>have you ever considered you could simply play better.Tell that to my 0-17 yamato before its even 15 mins into the game
>>574713351Eternus isn't even a badge of honor anymore. There's so many dumb faggots in this bracket. Like legitimately half the bracket needs to be ejected to phantom. They're worse than ascendants somehow. Probably the egos.
>Survivorship bias
>>574710550ah yeah "troon" is fine but the N word? over the line bro
>>574713429skill issue>>574713437if it's so easy for retards to get there then it should be even easier for everyone here to do so
>>574705256Yea but honestly I just put them on box groups over sinners, they get countered too ez at sinner
>>574713756>skill issueYeah, on the yamato
>>574713429>I explicitly told you how my team would intThat is not exclusive to you, yet others can climb.
>being hardtsuckJust pull a metro and spam wraith
>>574714028spam a B-tier hero?
>>574713873any particular places outside of mid boxes that are good to pop on?
>>574714089>wraith >b tierSeeker GOD
>>574714089>deletes your walker in 5 seconds at 10m
>>574714089wraith, not silver lol
>>574704504this>>574704615seethe lmao
>>574713901>Survivorship bias
>>574714392>cope bias
>>574714501>>574714392
>>574714549>n-no I dont suck. I-it's the games fault!Post your profile then, pussy. Let's see how you get fucked over by matchmaking
>>574714625>"Skill" based matchmaking>Game punishes you if everyone else on your team goes double digit deaths>Only way to actually climb is by winningYes, I would call that a contradiction
>>574637430>casual tfnigger trying to redditify another gamekys
>>574714739Concession accepted. Filtered.
>>574714775>The matchmaking is fine, bro. I was able to climbYeah, I have a low tolerance for shitty games.
>>574714902Keep replying bro. Whatever helps your fragile ego cope.
>shiv and sinclair go 1/7 and 0/4 respectively at 10 minute mark and lose walker at 14 minutes>spend the next 12-14 minutes turning that into 3/12 and 0/10>cant even farm long enough as victor to do anything meaningful since their already in our base>naturally I'm ticked off that we lost this fast because of two mentally ill players and im not the only one>The negative KD haze that queued with one or both of them doesnt like that im ripping on them despite the fact they're talking shit after their abysmal performance>"can you guys please report the victor"This fucking game is testing my god damn patience.Why the fuck can't overnigger tourists stay in their fucking sloppa?
>>574714960>He says as hes tying his entire sense of worth to a rank in a game thats not even released yet
>>574715037I tie my sense of worth to my real life, not my digital rank, but keep projecting bro. If you keep trying I might just start to believe you're not at all insanely fragile and insecure.
>Add rank to game unreleased>All the feedback will be from ego andies with suvivorship bias telling the devs how the game is fine>Game releases>It flops because it only appeared to ego andies with survivorship biasScreenshot this.
>>574715218>I tie my sense of worth to my real life, not my digital rankI sense some anger in this post. Hit a little too close, I see. Its obvious you have survivorship bias and youre tying your entire sense of worth to it because in your mind you "got out"
>>574715352>no uConcession accepted>replying on cooldown after your previous postkwab
>>574715451>Total non-argumentsuh oh, melty
>>574715504Yeah you're right. I'm the one having a meltdown, not the person going onto the general of a game he supposedly uninstalled to cry about how muh matchmaking is unfairYou do realize how you come across, right?
>>574715602>He says as he got hyper defensive over me saying matchmaking is badooooh guess I hit you deep in your ego, huh? Probably because you have doubts in the back of your mind how you don't deserve your rank and you lash out at people because your insecurity.Like I said. Survivorship bias with fragile ego.
>>574715776I'm not offended. I am making fun of you. How do you not get this?Now are you going to go ahead and post your profile or are you gonna keep coping and making stuff up about me to make yourself feel better?
I'm having trouble as Viscous. Is the build I'm using bad or is he really just "do no damage at all" the entire time? Putting people in the cube is very fun though.
>>574715923>I'm not offendedYeah, you totally are. You keep trying to get me to post my profile so you can stroke your fragile ego. You aint clever, little bro
>>574716051>bla bla bla I'm not insecure! I'm not!*yawns loudly in your face*>>574716007Viscous does good damage, but only his gooball
>>574716173>"I dont tie my sense of self to my rank!">"Also check out hard i'm willing to defend matchmaking and my rank"lollmao, even
>>574716007his damage and stun was nerfed 341 times so yes get to cubing gooslut
>>574716007He does a shitload of damage if you hyperfocus on splatter + mystic/express shot.
>>574716190You destroyed him.Well done.
>>574716190>had a reply ready to gokwabotyI already told you I am making fun of you. Where did I defend the matchmaking beyond pointing out that plenty of others are able to climb just fine
>>574716173>>574716247That kinda sucks. What about investing a bit on gun?>>574716221Atleast that's fun. Wasting enemy team time on ult and then echo shard my cube
>>574716420>Now hes trying to act disingenuous.Man youre the whole package, arn't you?
>>574709374That's correct, Silver is for ME.
>>574716381>>574716605>90 seconds apartHow embarrassing for (You)
>>574716486mystic+express shot is basically all the gun invest that's worth going for, then you just blast people with the altfirehe used to have a good gun build but the bullshit levels of save and escape he has in the rest of his kit meant he could build pure glass cannon without really being in any danger so it got nerfed hard
>>574716643I had SILVERLOVER2016 in my game the other day, so you've got some competition
>>574716653>Accuses others of having a fragile ego>Dilates when someone laughs at him and underplays his vidya cheevoslmao its always a projection
>>574716797Bodied that freak. Well done.
>>574716797Are you gonna address the fact that you got caught trying to samefag?How do you think that comes across when I accuse you of being insecure?
>>574716983>Everyone laughing at me is one personHoly schizo lmfao
>>574716797>>574716938>>574717039>90 seconds apartNooticing.You need to up your shitposting game. Atleast use your phone to fake a (You).Filtered, kwab, etc. etc..
>>574717161See: >>574717039
>>574717206Ok?And me seeing that cope changes, what, exactly?
>>574714167tell it to literally every pro player making tier lists right now. they live in a different reality from the rest of us
>Notice how the survivorship biased ego-andy has completely pivoted the argument to defend his ego after accusing someone else of having a fragile ego
>decide to play 1 game tonight>A smurf playing Haze with 5 alt accounts goes 21-0awesome
>>574715002it's funny how much better quality the games are when an overwatch/marvel rivals update happened. it only lasts a few days but I've been noticing it the past year.
>much better quality the games
>>574674412I cringe every time I see that modamericans really do worship niggers
>>574713351>how do you think pro players get to eternus in solo queue?They didn't. They got boosted by playing with friends retard.
stop indian racism in deadlock.
>574720130hang yourself retard
I feel like Im missing something with Abrams.Sometimes I get players that are absolute gods with him but everytime I play him, the only thing I do is:Charge, wall slam, Heavy melee, echo shard, repeat.Maybe im not using his gun as much unconsciously?What are Abrams players doing that i'm not?
>AIJeet hands made that post
do i just accept that my fun is over the moment the enemy team has 3 spellbreakers (grey talon main btw)
this game has been downhill since the inventory changes i miss the old system so much
If you care about rank in a closed alpha game you're spiritually brown.
>>574724260what the hell is wrong with you.
>every streamer using UI mods, mods to see creeps through walls and mods to increase their fovdo top rank players ever not cheat as much as they possibly can
>>574724805you can see creeps through walls by defaultidk why but you can
>>574722327what do you even echo shard on abrams? his charge?
>>574724805>most of deadlock's top streamers are shit-worlders>surprised they use every opportunity possible to cheat/bend rules with mods
>play a little too silly>demoted to oracle>suddenly some of the most retarded subhumans imaginable that also spend half the game typingholy moly this is the dredges
49XQW49XQW49XQWinhouse
49XQW 49XQW 49XQW In fuarking house
>>574725815>peek my head in>discucks already stackingshant be joinin'
>>574724805here I updated your image to get more attention
>>574726220your loss schizo
>>574726220Join the fuarking inhouse its 6/1249XQW49XQW49XQW
If i'm afk fountain, why the fuck are you still playing? Just give up. You're going to lose. Its so sad.
The virgin "Just give up" afk'er at fountainVSThe Chad "I will fight against all odds"
>574720130keep thriving retard
>>574726245thanks
>>574726368americans are taught to never give up in their schools so they just pointlessly run out and feed for 20 more minutes
49XQW49XQW49XQWIn house join up
>>574726368incredible levels of delusion here
I just spent the entire day, literally 10 games, playing in EU as someone living in Ontario. These were the worst games I've ever experienced in my life. What the fuck is going on?
>>574727159Games dead jim
>>574727159>spending your entire game playing deadlock in current stateYou need to love yourself now.
when are we getting real occult characters instead of tumblrslop
>>574727159what rank are you to be getting EU games?
>>574727327when your mistress lets your boyclitty out of its cock cage
>>574725815>>574726005>>574726356no thanks i don't want to play with pedophile trannies
49XQW49XQW49XQWThe inhouse just appeared wtf10/12
>>574727620tfthere's no trannies here
>>574726936is that why europoors willingly let arabs and africans flood their countries because they're taught to roll over in their schools?
>>574727705fake 10/12trying to trick people into joining the inhouse in a manner similar to how fake panhandlers seed their handout container with a little bit of their own money to make it appear more legit.
>>574727334Oracle 5 on my practice account for characters I'm bad at.
>>57472796349XQW49XQW49XQW
>>574727963it's literally 10/12 right now schizo
>>574728227already posted proof you're lying >>574728193
>>574727705I'll join when i come back in 10 minutes if not full
surely you have at least 12 people in your discord server group
>>574728415they're too busy grooming children on roblox
>>574728415>>574728592put a round in your skull lonely faggots
>>574728193I will play as billyI'm going to die a lotplease don't hurt me over it dying as a billy enthusiast is just in my nature
If there's a Silver in this inhouse I want to know how she goes
do you guys use business rem or mexican rem
>>574728797if she's on the stack team she'll do okay
>>574728824pool party rem
Can I watch the inhouse game if it already started?
>>574729407I'm trying to as I type this but I don't think you can
Every single game I play now has 3 team mates with 30+ deaths between them by 20 minutes. Every single game the enemy team is up a minimum of 70k souls. I just don't know what to do anymore. People just won't stop fighting. They run in, die, then immediately run right back in and die again the second they respawn. I'm regularly forced to play lane janitor because no one farms ever, it's always just perm brawling. Why is this game even a MOBA at this point? Hardly anyone even plays it like one, and taking objectives now is like pulling teeth, there's zero agency.Congrats to Valve for getting this game to this state though, holy crap what an achievement. Unironically this game was in a better state 2 years ago with the old item system.
what victor build do i follow for mega aura kill all never die
>>574728824diaper rem + silver body pillow
>>574729558redditors look at games where they're down 100k and think they can comeback so you have to be tortured for 30 minutes instead of surrendering
>>574729558I want you to go to steamdb. Look at the playercount. Now look for the date March 6th on the time line, then look for may 15th.The only people left playing the game are either so far ahead in experience and time invested that they run laps around everyone else, or it's the hopelessly addicted. The game is in a awful state and it's clear that it is, within 6 months, the playercount dropped by over half.Sorry man.
>>574730402>are either so far ahead in experience and time invested that they run laps around everyone else, or it's the hopelessly addicted.None of this matters because of rankan initiate isn't suddenly NOT an initiate just because he's spent 400 hours in initiate
>>574730764While correct, you aren't account for the people who got hardstuck at higher ranks and play on smurfs to punch down. Once again, the hopelessly addicted.Besides, an initiate player with 400 hrs in the game is probably going to play the game better than someone who is supposed to actually be in Initiate.And the smurfing problem never goes away by the way. Oracle/Phantom/Ascendant all have +1 Game owned, 1 year old steam accounts running around throwing and carrying games just like the lower ranks.
>>574730764If you're better than them you can carry.>inb4 I don't play a m1 carryThen start to otherwise enjoy playing with your lobotomites.
>>574729894go back
>>574730976You don't even need to carry if you can just play the fucking game properly t. went from ritualist to ascendant spamming healslut ivy
>paying the smurf tithe lmao
>>574730916Adding to this. Tons of streamers get really upset if you point out their playing on a "smurf" and not an "alt.Like yeah bro, your account may be only a rank or two behind your "main" but it also has 800 games played.That account at one point wasn't in Eternus. Which means you were smurfing on it.Faggot.
smurfing = deliberately stomping lower ranked lobbies and maintaining low mmr by either throwing and deranking or immediately switching accounts once your account reaches mmr too high for your smurfing purposesalting = no attempts at mmr manipulation, you switched accounts for possibly playing on another region (probably doesn't apply to deadlock), anonymity, testing various things without deliberately griefing (for example trying another race in rts, builds in deadlock, making a 2nd valorant account to learn another role you're completely unfamiliar with is not smurfing if you don't maintain shitlow stomp mmr by losing and playing like shit on purpose. you'll climb normally like any other player)
Need 1 for inhouse49XQW49XQW49XQW
>>574733907kill yourself
prisoners should be made to play deadlock 16 hours a day
RESTART STEAM
>>574733349What is this cope? It's all smurfing. Grow up and accept losing a couple games you wouldn't when you are trying to learn a new character.
>>574734992Hmm... nyo.
>>574734992>Grow up and accept losing a couple games you wouldn't when you are trying to learn a new character.Can you really blame people given how often this very thread whines whenever their teammate underperforms?
>>574734740>>>>>abrams jr got added
>>574734385that would break the geneva convention
>>574733349Weapons grade copium lel.You were playing against people outside of your rank, and hero mmr exists for a reason.You were smurfing, and the account will be banned.So will your main too.
>>574736004absolute seething, i don't have deadlock on any other accounts, i've only smurfed in cs and valorant. keep crying though
>>574736118Why would you feel the need to reply to me then?If you don't have an "alt" then you aren't apart of the problem now are you?Or is it that you're afraid? Afraid you'll never be able to play deadlock on your main account when the ban wave comes?Hmmm?https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/3692442542242977036
I really love that they made just walking the urn better than doing troon movement. That objective is actually viable now no matter the skill level of the lobby is.
>>574736375you're the one replying to me first, i'm just saying it how it is. i don't think using multiple accounts aka alting is a problem. however, rank manipulation obviously is, and is against tos of any multiplayer game that has matchmaking. keep crying though
>>574735059I accept your concession
>>574736004there is a reason he mentioned "region"its league of legends faggots trying to justify the retarded shit their game allows, every other game bans smurfs and says no just play on your singular main accountbut they have all their schizo justifications for why its fine that league of legends does nothing about smurfing despite it being an obvious problem
clearly the team on the left can clearly contest urn with all the extra resistances and bullshit yoshi alleges it gives right?
>>574737456Of course not, they're dead, dummy.
I like playing support viscous because everyone loves the cube and they tell me that they love me whe i give them cube
>>574737456>drooling retard modsYou deserve your loss
>>574737305i have never played lol, only valorant and tft. deadlock is the only moba i've played. "every other game" no, cs doesn't give a shit about smurfs, only faceit does and that has nothing to do with valve
>>574737727as a regular of the now dead /pso2g/ the fact you typed this sentence is incredibly funny to me
I'll be honest, I don't understand half the posts here.
