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Loved Edition

Previous Love: >>574772718

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/79FxaVBV

-Fanart Archives
>https://pastebin.com/5777YtCb
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE

-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/

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>https://rentry.org/utg-font

Toby Fox's Official Dungeon Meshi x Deltarune fanfiction: https://www.tumblr.com/fwugradiation/822702142596038656/and-if-youll-give-me-40-of-the-most-popular?source=share

-/utg/ Canvases
>Current: https://r7.whiteboardfox.com/77031111-1570-8697
>Previous: https://r7.whiteboardfox.com/77025518-2968-7326
>Current: https://magma.com/d/3B5chWd0Vh
>Previous: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh

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Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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>>574787673
OP is a faggot.
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Another day of holding out until I can get species affirming surgery and be a fox person
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I liked how tenna died
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I wish I could see her and the other flower's dreams continue for one more day
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LET'S GET SOME HECKIN WHOLESOME POSITIVITY IN HERE GUYS #DeltarunePositivity
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Kris in this outfit would be so cute
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WELL I THINK SUSIE SUCKS
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I LOVE TV!!
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>>574787518
get real
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>>574787829
Do you think kris would enter the goon chamber and have himself covered in hot anime girls
I would
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>>574787802
Sorry the shit squad deserve more than other people
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Lapping up Aqua's warm nectar!
Rubbing Aqua's essential oils into your face!
Holding Aqua flat against your body and taking long, deep breaths of her floral aroma!
Drinking fresh tea from Aqua's pores!
Aqua!
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ARE WE PLAYING THE SCREAMING GAME!? AHHHHHHH
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7 vaginas
maybe even more
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i show NO MERCY to those who act WEIRD
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Fucking Marcille's elf pussy while pulling on her hair (this is on-topic because Toby Fox wrote about her in his Deltarune x Dungeon Meshi fanfiction)
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Hahahaflowershahaha!
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>>574787885
holy shit. another one. the fujocalypse is upon us. I like the detail of the eye outline being blue
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>As the sounds of romantic whispers crawled to your ears, you pushed tight against your vessel with his fists clenched tight
>You spoke to him, "What would you do without me?"
>"What are you without me?"
>You left a gap. You couldn't hear his response if he even did
>"I can tell you, Kris, you are pathetic. This behavior is pathetic."
>"I can't help but notice that you got closer to Ralsei, but every positive interaction was forced by me."
>"Susie likes you, in a real way, but then again, so did Noelle oh so long ago,"
>"Were you like this? Was it something like this that drove you to so far apart?"
>"You could have said something. You can still say something, but you won't."
>"Even with me prodding you, you won't say anything. You never even gave me enough of a chance to say something for you."
>"I wouldn't have, because it would make it harder on them to move on"
>"You're only friends were handed to you by circumstance, you resist every attempt I make to be kind to the other lightners"
>"But even when you are forced by your families to become friends with Noelle, or fate forces you towards Susie, you ruin it."
>"Kris, you are a cancer who can never be happy."
>Another gap, leaving you to hear the ecstatic whispers shared between Susie and Noelle, you could feel his misery wash onto you
>"Thank you, Kris... when you're gone, nobody will miss you, because everything they like about you is ME!"
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>>574787885
HOLY SHIT SHE'S REAL
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>>574787885
wait. dice can be real!? this is cool
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You can’t control how people feel or think OP.
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>>574787936
Laios would be a huge UT/DR/Sonic autist, and I support him one hundred percent. I wish I could see his OCs.
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>>574787895
Realistically no because kris hates anime but my porn brain would say yez especially if its he/him femkris to make it yuri
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>>574787885
I'm sad I'll never have a Fujo in my life...she would accept me fapping to gay furry porn...
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I have a confession to make.
I love Undertale.
I love Deltarune.
I love Chapter 1.
I love Chapter 2.
I love Chapter 3.
I love Chapter 4
I love Chapter 5.
I love /utg/.
I love the illustrators here.
I love the writers here.
I love the musicians here.
I love the fave posters.
I love the theory crafters.
I love the OCs anons make.
I love the blogposters.
I love the anon that posts fat Spamton waddling.
I love you.
Even when we all leave this place one day, I will remember Our Deltarune fondly.
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>>574787897
>image
kek. I guess this would play out like the meet and fuck kingdom games where kris chooses the speed and position for susie and tells them to switch
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Kris and Asriel have a very healthy and positive relationship
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>>574788127
It was as if your very SOUL was glowing...
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You guys are gonna like my deltarune video
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>>574787836
susie has gone down on my list of favorites after she started fulfilling prophecy flags this chapter. who knows what's going on other than Noelle Noelle Noelle now
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>>574788127
i like some of the enemies and the existence of alternate routes that you have to do some finagling to find
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>>574787909
Was spamton a faggot for running away from this?
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oppa gangam style
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Norm is my fave because he shares my underlying want to know what everything tastes like.
Everything.
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>>574787895
>himself
secondary
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I like when he's given bow ties
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>>574787936
a real deltarune faggot would fuck izutsumi. no, scratch that, they would fuck the dragon
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Reminder this is the undertale general first
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>>574787802
They'll be happy in the shop at least
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Okay, what are we tearing each other about next? Have we done gender yet today?
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>>574788127
That’s nice anon but you don’t need to say all this just to placate a controlling manbaby that spergs out over nerds being critical over the nerdy things that they love.
The content of the discussions you have should make these things obvious.
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The person to cross over .exe aesthetics and Deltarune will make millions of dollars in ad revenue
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>>574788127
Give me your power so I may draw
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>>574788127
do you love me too anon? i'm the translation guy
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>>574788151
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>>574788282
Kris has a big veiny cock that he likes to get teased with, sorry anon
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what other games let you break the narrative? i can only think of this series and the stanley parable
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>>574788298
I want to fuck Rocky.
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>>574787895
he would…not, doesn’t he hate anime
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young people are smoking dark fountains
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>>574787895
>himself
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Kris has two cute nubs that she likes to get teased with, sorry libtard.
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>>574788329
>flowery
>togore
my two favorite undertales...
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>>574788389
but kiddo isnt that already deltarune
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>>574788329
breast envy with Chara!
Frisk pushing up against Chara and not realizing why she's so upset!
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>>574788483
Toby likes this because it makes people slapfight over it. You just know he laughs his ass off about it.
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>call Frisk or Chara any pronoun
>nobody cares
I miss those days
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I have a feeling that a lot of what Flowery says on his death bed won't be just Chapter 5 lore. Flowers being not Lightners or Darkners means other things can fit into that category too.

Like are Shinobeetles actual bugs that operate on a higher form of consciousness in the DW like the Flowers? Do simple animals become intelligent?

If you put your cat into a dark world would it become an anthro cat girl/boy?
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ralsei wont be a girl because tobys a faggot and likes boys more than girls
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Just report any posts misgendering Kris for trolling instead of giving them attention please.
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>>574788483
i am woke or whatever but carrying it to this many citations is very autistic behavior and a good moderator would remove this.
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>>574788641
A... cat, you say...?
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>>574788614
I don't think people today really care either, they're pretty ambiguous and their genders aren't terribly relevant anyways.
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>>574788556
Its just Flowey (anime boy) and Togore is a Undertaler
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>>574788435
There’s nothing that is as good as Deltarune at doing this. I heard OneShot does something similar but I haven’t played it.
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>>574788676
kris digesting in ralsei’s stomach
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>>574788483
that kris sprite is so cute i love him
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I hate black tranny chasers
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>everyone hates and fears susie including the teacher and susie is about to be expelled and susie threatens grievous bodily harm against another student unprompted and the first time susie finds herself in a situation where she can inflict pain on sentient beings without consequences she does it without hesitation, but also she's a sweet girl who never did anything wrong and everyone secretly had a crush on her except that bitch catti who's actually just jealous over how attractive she is
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>>574788476
Young people are going to think this is a great alternative for me to deal with my prophesied fate
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>>574788676
posts like this? >>574788540
or is that ok because they said she instead of he
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>>574788676
Both sides are trolling and ragebaiting each other even if they/them are the canon and correct pronouns
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>>574788676
this can't be a real post
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>>574788435
>>574788758
Oneshot's also a pretty good game and it's a few degrees of undertale if you want slightly meta fuckery.
Niko's cute
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Oh I finally get it, it's supposed to be a vagina.
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Kris is a girl like Aqua, don't be a secondary
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>>574788641
Shinobeetles aren't bugs, they're just things that turn into bugs, the same way Asgore doesn't literally have crows in his store that turn into Kawkaws
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I don’t mis-species Kris. I am the only based darkwoke person in this fandom. They are a monster, NOT human.
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>>574788676
I don’t care if this is bait, my reply is needed.
Fuck off retard.
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they done turned the frih into a baby
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>>574788654
he won't be a girl unless toby explicitly chooses to pander. everything related to trans ralsei is made up or projection
annoys me when i realize its gonna be another year of running into extremely ooc ralsei images and discussion because niggas who dont even like deltarune and/or ralsei are pouring into his tags to squee about a potential gender win and bitch about the evil femboys
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>>574788239
NEVER STICK YOUR [ick] IN CRAZY.
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>>574788775
>>>/v/
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>>574788676
anon said before being banned for 3 days for abusing reports (i found out this is possible)
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>>574788775
susie being a bully only happened in the arg. monster kid also says they've never seen Susie bullying anyone but what they said isn't important because we see Susie bullying kris in the first fifteen minutes of chapter 1. and when she shoved Kris into a locker she was secretly really scared about getting in trouble so that doesn't count.
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what if i dont want to report anyone because im lazy
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>>574787909
*7 weewees
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>>574787936
>>574788078
These threads would be much better if Dungeon Meshi were required reading for posting here.
>>574788298
>>574788436
I WANT TO FUCK ALL OF THEM!! AND CHILCHUCK!
Kind of a shame Izutsumi didn't get a mention in the fanfic even though she's part of the main group, perhaps she is the Berdly...
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>>574788930
the human sprites from undertale are both weird malformed babies
it's just people ignore this in 99% of art
>>574788959
kind of reminds me of toontown
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>>574788949
isn't it weird how there was a subsection of people doing this to asriel beforehand? like saying he was somehow a she in college? I can'tt understand the need to make goats take estrogen
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>>574788872
Its actually an African shield
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Games' criticisms is bad, we need to talk about pronouns
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>>574786645
>it's not exactly the same so it isn't a clear allusion
It is a clear allusion. I pointed this out in my post You should read it before you reply to me.
>Spamton NEO is about the weird route
Oh, I see, you're just being stupid and argumentative to waste everyone's time. Thanks.

>>574786739
Kris doesn't need to react to Pink like they did to Spamton, but they should react, or have any meaningful interaction with her at all.
If Pink is supposed to represent some epiphany or inflection point in Kris and the SOUL's relationship, well, where is that? Why do we have to speculate about it?

>poor communication. Something we need to work on
>>574786842
What's stupid about it, asshole? We can't communicate with Kris!
How can we "work on" it? We can't talk to Kris! We literally cannot hear what they're saying! We can't hear them laugh! We can't even see the expression on their face most of the time!
>the resolution to Pink's fight is a happy ending
Is it? Would it be a happy ending for Kris and the SOUL? Does Kris love You? Does Kris WANT to share their body and be possessed forever?
I REALLY DON'T THINK SO!
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>>574789008
I report posts all the time and I've never been banned for abusing reports.
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>>574788097
You just have to believe
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>>574789057
>it's just people ignore this in 99% of art
>tall sexyman Spamton
>buff Tenna
>fridge Susie
Many such cases
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>>574789042
Izutsumi is obviously the Catti because she is a cat
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>>574788676
this is american hours you aren't getting good posts till euro hours start even if you report every bad post
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>>574789101
people dont actually like them as characters but they know they are important to the narrative.

asriel is one dimensional and boring without his flowey side and that's all college asriel is.
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>>574789147
did you report posts because you thought an anon misgendered your favorite character while writing an on topic 4 paragraph theory relating to the game about them
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>>574789134
>schizoid felt the need to drag garbage to a new thread
I want /v/ to leave
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>>574788774
>the modern FGC out of nowhere
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reminder that ralsei will never have talksprites that don't look like ass
https://x.com/cdose112/status/1455569474682163207
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>>574789230
euro hours were shit last night its over
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>reporting posts because you don’t like them
>ADMITTING to reporting posts because you don’t like them
Grim.
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>>574789230
there is no escape from this hell anymore
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>>574789134
pink's true actual purpose is to foreshadow whatever the fuck is going to happen with mettaton and tenna. TRVST THE DOG
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>>574788930
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>>574788775
>Everyone
Except all the people who aren't.
And the people who are;
Noelle - An extremely represeded teenager surronded by fake people who can also fall in love with an interdimensional demon who forced her to kill people.
Kris - A violent, mentally disabled freak
Berdly - A borderline hypersexual who will try to fuck anybody who he shares any connection to.
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>>574789269
Im talking about getter robo fans
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>>574789229
Can't wait for Catti to be part of the group in Chapter 4!
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>>574789134
>Is it? Would it be a happy ending for Kris and the SOUL? Does Kris love You? Does Kris WANT to share their body and be possessed forever?
nah so we have to work together until we get to the end instead of them being a prissy little bitch and trying to hide everything
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>>574789147
I've been banned for reporting posts that simultaneously got deleted for breaking the rules multiple times before so I don't bother anymore
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>>574789308
I mean, I can see the appeal but the dopey ralsei we have now has kinda grown on me
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>>574789062
This artist has drawn Aqua going down on Seth
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>>574712297
Tomorrow hopefully. I just bought some suspenders (which I hope work out well, I've never worn those things in my life). And if not tomorrow then Sunday when I'm free from work.
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Giving you a peek (I miss this artist)
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>>574789247
Oh I'm sorry, should I have switched to this thread's fresh and new Kris misgendering discourse?
FUCK YOU
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i think fat people should be bullied and excluded
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>>574788483
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>>574788864
I LOVE ONE SHOT I LOVE NIKO!!!!!!
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>>574789528
Based.
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>>574789308
Me when I see honkers
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>>574789380
THIS is what genocided the underground????
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post fave until morale improves
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Breaking news: Tumblr Sexy Man 2026 has been caught touching underage children
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>>574789485
I think I might need to see that for proof
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>>574789657
kino
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>>574789626
everyone remembers when kris summoned that demon a few years ago and then started getting really horny and new tattoos and piercings after, right?
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>>574789101
the other anon gets it
i also think it’s their hatred of feminine men/men seen as being feminine. trannies are remarkably regressive
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>>574789626
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>>574789528
Molestable kris...
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Walsei as The Pwincess, with a cute lil dwess and a matching diaper
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>>574789657
Can it really be considered news when this happens every single time
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I love fish
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>>574789657
That isn't Tenna
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>>574789540
Aaaah ooh hee bwahaha *drowns in drank*
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>>574789691
they are both so cute!!
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>>574789729
>impending toriel heart attack upon seeing half of these
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>>574789308
soul vs sovlless
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>>574789796
pick literally anyone else
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>>574788775
is there even a point in engaging with a post this hyperbolic? anyways i'll proceed to do just that
Susie is disliked but she's just seen as an annoying sperg and not an actual danger or threat. Even Kris is shown to not care about her bullying or desire an apology, and Kris is the one she targets the most; Kris is dealing with shit way more important than a school bully and the sweepstakes blog post shows them basically no-selling Susie's attempt at harrassing them. Maybe Susie would be expelled if they informed Alphys / Toriel about it, but they haven't. Chapter 1 gave her the opportunity to practice her facade to its fullest extent which is why she fights every darkner she comes across before she realizes she doesn't actually have to do that, maintaining it would lead her to losing people she cares about (Lancer) and that's not worth appearing tough. She doesn't do it because she loves causing pain but because she wants to seem invincible. She's never framed as "never doing anything wrong", she apologizes for her bullying of Kris twice in game (once in Ch. 4, once in Ch. 5), Kris just doesn't give a fuck. The only ones who have a crush on her are Noelle and potentially Kris, Berdly doesn't like her until she references a game he likes.
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>>574789134
>Oh, I see, you're just being stupid and argumentative to waste everyone's time
Concession accepted, you know you can't refute the truth
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>>574789839
Its not Tenna?!
Well who is it then?!
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>>574789134
Kris is extremely jaded and predisposed towards hating us, it makes sense they wouldn't give the player an inch over something positive. I do agree he shoulda at least blushed when Pink kissed them. But the epiphany is clear enough already, and she's got double Spamton wires while she's having her meltdown anyways.
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>>574788435
Technically Metal Gear Solid 3 as a secret game over screen
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>blue (deltarune) 85
>yellow (deltarune) 86
>green (deltarune) 86
>orange (deltarune) 93
>seth (deltarune) 125
>flowery (deltarune) 313
>aqua (deltarune) 341
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>>574789942
mettaton's new form, METTATON TV
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>>574788435
Morrowind
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>>574789839
I chose the wrong image like a moron, it was right next to this one
>>574789969
I don't know who any of these are except for Senshi
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>>574790074
True, I didn’t think of that.
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>>574789940
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>>574789691
>>574789881
I hope Berdly lives a happy life. His Dark World adventures truly made him a better person and I would want to be his friend.
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Did we scare off the good posters wtf is going on
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>>574790041
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Hey anon, I like your shoelaces :D
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>>574790260
asriel really was a fag even in undertale wasn't he
>>574790310
nice mew
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>>574789969
kabru is underrated
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>>574790197
He thinks the whole thing was a dream and goes right back to acting like an unlikable shithead though?
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I can understand why he avoided a violent route for fighting mew mew given the circumstances (if we just forget about Berdly entirely like he has) but what I really dont get is why he couldnt even let us progress the fight from refusing to pick the "correct" dating options, its quite literally "Pick the right option or die"
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>>574790260
Define good poster.
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>>574790197
Based and wholesomepilled
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>>574790359
thistle's a better boytoy
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>>574790381
You have to progress down the Mew Mew route to win.
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>>574788435
If you like your evil routes....

Soul Nomad & The World Eaters. The protagonist gets a demon sword at the start of the game that promises power in exchange for your soul. Initially you can't do anything and you do the whole hero save the world type thing. But on repeat playthroughs you can accept the demons offer and go full Dark Lord on the world, hijacking the plot and causing the main villains and former heroes to ally against YOU. It is very excellent.
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>>574789676
It's on their private account, https://x.com/violet00nectar
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>>574790260
Chapter 5 scared off all the good posters
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>>574790381
It’s a puzzle.
What pisses me off is that no matter how you play the game Kris is described as having canonically flirted with everyone by Susie even if that’s not true.
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>>574790381
you can get through the whole fight without flirting, you just have to have susie shove food in her mouth
feeder GODS
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>>574790426
you dont understand i want kabru to rape me
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>>574790354
... did you not play undertale?
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Someone was commissioning a bunch of Berdly ass-eating porn around the time chapter 3 came out. Now there's a massive drought. Please come back.
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>>574789134
you're reading this as Soul = Maddie and Kris = Mew Mew when it's Soul = Mew Mew and Kris = Maddie. Kris thinks our desires are stupid and only sees the Soul as a tool, do you really think there's no significance to the beginning of the chapter with Kris turning sickly grey and the idea of dysfunction if they don't accept the Soul / their other "half"
they can't keep acting alone, it is literally killing them. Kris was the one who stands to learn something from the fight, they just don't say anything about it
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>>574790392
There was an active thread on /v/ which was just nuked by an assmad janny after someone insinuated he had a thing for teenage deer.
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>>574790558
I tried that, you still have to call her cute or you die
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you never hear people say "for the lols" anymore
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>>574790381
>its quite literally "Pick the right option or die"
bro that's what a game is
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>>574790558
I don't think you actually can get 50 Dokis worth of food in your inventory
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i ate pizza and feel like vomiting
fave for this feel?
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killing ralsei for the lols
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>>574790550
oh, does that piss you off
does it make you angry
lmao
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this thread needs more water
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>>574790310
That is a vintage Maddie.
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>>574790359
Labru was the first yaoi I've been truly passionate about in years and it's canon in my heart of hearts
>>574789626
Cute I love fem kris's I'm glad we finally got an official Kris in a dress this chapter
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>>574790550
Ralsei talks about how Kris gave him the ribbon in chapter 1 even if you didn't
Toby doesn't give a shit about consistency or continuity anymore
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>>574789493
MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED!
I will wait for those pictures with excitement
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>>574790381
Because Mewmew´s only weakness is her doki meter. What else needs explaining? She is more powerful than you but weak to flattery and flirting. You could not beat her any other way. If you tried to, you would lose and not be able to complete the fight.
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>>574790726
Yes.
>>574790770
That too.
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>>574790605
I'm just saying no straight guy gives his ultimate evil form eyeliner
>>574790708
can you not? i thought you could, but looking it up I guess those were unused
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>>574790563
How thick is his bush canonically. I want to know before I get into this show.
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>>574790310
>>574790745
cute mews
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>>574789936
If someone called you a faggot irl and unbeknownst to them you didn't really care about being called a faggot does that them calling you a faggot acceptable behaviour?
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flirt with aqua
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>>574790381
That's like complaining you can't win Spamton NEO without pressing Z to fire shots
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>every dark world adventure is just Kris experiencing the past again with Asriel and Dess
>and Noelle fucking everything up again
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>>574790770
He also mentions Jevil and the bird that shows up sometimes when you ACT in his fight, even if you've never fought the clown at all
My cope for this is that he has meta knowledge
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i just realised toby why likely decided to add the mew mew fight in undertale as well.
if he didn't, there's a genuine chance the braindead people in this fandom who skimread all the dialogue would have assumed 'pink' was mettaton
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>>574790890
It would be acceptable if the person who called you a faggot was really just an uwu sad girl trying to act tough
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I wanna turn this kid into the Dark Lord.
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>>574790702
>>574790381
99% of the game is "pick the right mercy option or lose retard" so it's really funny that people are pretending that's an issue only now, especially with a character who is literally invincible in undertale
>>574790890
yes because calling someone a faggot is always acceptable
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>>574790381
The canonical ending to the fight in which you refused to hit her weakness is that you lost. That shrimple
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>>574790932
Unless you're able to juggle knives in the air like her, I don't think flirting will be effective on Aqua...
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>>574791013
If Toby was concerned about the Extremely Stupid he wouldn't be making Deltarune the autistic cartoon animal game you can't understand if you're autistic
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>>574790856
probably medium-thick they don't have any fancy razors so he definitely doesnt have too often maybe once a month
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>>574790381
wait, is pink the only character aside from rouxls that has UI arranging powers
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Gentlemen, behold.

My army of kris hunonculous sex slaves ...
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BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!?
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>>574791210
there's lancer too
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>>574791229
We broke through a boundary and skipped Chapter 5 and 6.
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>>574791219
Gaster POV
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>>574790612
i don't think we're gonna be able to reasonably reconcile with Kris. we've gotta handle the holiday family drama, featuring Noelle's girlfriend susie, and our relationship with Kris and the knight and the roaring and the goners all in two chapters? no way
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>>574791190
God why is he so pretty
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>>574790612
>you're reading this as Soul = Maddie and Kris = Mew Mew when it's Soul = Mew Mew and Kris = Maddie
>Kris was the one who stands to learn something from the fight, they just don't say anything about it
I don't agree with that interpretation at all but even if I did it wouldn't change the criticism I'm making
If Kris took anything from the Pink fight we can only speculate about it, because they didn't show it

>do you really think there's no significance to the beginning of the chapter with Kris turning sickly grey and the idea of dysfunction if they don't accept the Soul / their other "half"
Do you really think the message of the Pink fight was that Kris needs to submit to having their life stolen from them by an unknowable higher power that does not have their best interests at heart
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>>574791343
us controlling susie has been foreshadowed since chapter 1 so kris will at least lose custody of us for a while
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>>574791024
I just don't see it that way. Susie's intentions were to harass and intimidate. The fact that Kris is not bothered is immaterial to whether her actions were right or wrong.
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>>574791229
More gagshit most likely
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Note that not a single soul has ever whined that you can't kill any of the other mercy-only bosses (K Round, SC&C, the weather couple, Jackenstein), that you can't kill Gerson or that you can't kill Flowery who is in the same chapter and the more promiment of the two fights. They only mysteriously get angry when Mad Mew Mew is involved, I wonder what it is about this character specifically that causes this sort of complaint
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>goes to deltarune merch store
>it’s just plushies and shirts and little trinkets
why do games never have action figures
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Who else is excited to see Toby leverage all of his connections for chappy 7
I can't wait for Raise Up Your Bat Fun Gang Response (Feat. They Might Be Giants)
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>>574788127
this made me smile. i love you too
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>>574791343
I'd be very surprised if there was zero way of some form of cooperation, it's been one of the bigger things with Kris the whole game and would make a lot of sense with weird route being the edgy fuckhead route and normal/pacifist being the good one
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>>574791491
I complained about k round in ch 1 that asshole and his massive legs pissed me off
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>>574791491
people have whined about flowery being mercy-only too, it's purely bandwagoning "we have to hate what is new haha!" culture exported from /v/
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>>574789493
bless your soul
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>>574787518
Playing doctor WIP. Drawing cloth is hard.
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>>574791491
damn maybe it's because she's annoying and lame
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>>574791491
We're whining about not being able to solve fights through fighting
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>>574791491
to be ever so slightly fair to the mindless retards, I have seen them complain about flowery, but you're mostly right, it's just random tertiaries who don't actually play the game and then get mad when told to get mad
>>574791597
is susie a drag queen now?
are they fucking sans??
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>>574791493
Plushies are awesome we don’t need more plastic landfill garbage toys
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>>574788127
i like you too. i will kiss my theoryposts an extra kiss for you tonight
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its gonna be a very madoka magical day
the movie will be delayed again
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I can post conversation starting images too
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>>574791491
>or that you can't kill Flowery
don't speak for me, faggot. if i was allowed to, i would have ground that twink into vegan hamburger and set him on fire.
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>>574790945
Spamton NEO has 2 methods for defeating him, already, and the two super bosses who dont make sense to not have them. Mew Mew is just, someone you HAVE to flirt with. There is no killing them even though Magic is supposed to hurt ghosts. There is no alt method for sparing. Just, flirt with her or dont do the fight at all.
He couldve just given her a Pacify method so the player can still have a choice, thats why the TIRED status exists at all. To give a second method of Sparing that doesnt involve pure ass-kissing
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>>574791491
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>>574791491
I'm mad that you can't fill mercy-only bosses like Flowery. I want to fatten him up with my consumable healing items. Why didn't Toby program this in and have his team make the art assets for him getting fatter and wider and rounder? I have no allies in this dev team who will do what I tell them to.
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>>574790354
In Undertale, Asriel was in heterosexual love with Chara
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>>574791210
The Tenna ball can do it technically
>>574791229
Confirmation for non-playstation users that the routes are side A and side B
A placeholder for when the game is finished
You and Noelle lake-skipped straight to the end of the game
Device thing whatever
Kris and Noelle simply jumped straight into the last prophecy panels instead of breaking the prophecy
Candy Timeline Kris and Noelle killed themselves to reach their ultimate forms and cross over to the Meat Timeline
I dunno you tell me
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>>574791597
Im convinced this artist browses here because that was the exact gender bend name I gave susie when we [the thread/general] were talking about Noel a week ago for a yaoi pairing between the two.
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>>574791768
>and the two super bosses who dont make sense to not have them.
yea
just like it makes sense that you can't hurt a dummy
you dummy
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>>574791337
>gaster is the one who 'discarded' the players vessel just so he could fuck something that the player made so it's kind of like fucking the player themself
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>>574791493
closest you'll get is Nendoroids, if they even do anymore
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Maddie - Kris
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>>574791443
susie the dragon gets literally everything, even ownership of (you). i just want the vessel
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>>574791842
Mad Dummy is literally hurt by Napsta's magic tear bullets
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>>574791713
plushies are for homos and susie would want me to pop her head off in a battle against the decepticons
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>>574791909
you aint never getting that vessel back son
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>>574789969
>No Tade
Invalid poll, tear it all down
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>>574791726
FAT
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>>574791684
nice
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>>574791684
looks good so far anon, keep up the good work!
>>574791716
surprised I haven't seen kyubey FRIEND before
>>574791905
are they still a ghost in this
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Kris doesn't deserve our soul
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>>574792021
kris deserves our SOVL
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>>574791948

but anon I'm gay
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Your vessel's right here dood look at 'em they're all green and stuff it's your favorite
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Pubes are gods greatest gift to sex lovers
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>>574791491
K Round and SC&C are glorified tutorials and people have complained that you can't hurt Flowery. You can beat Gerson exclusively with healing or exclusively by trying to hit him.
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>>574791905
cute
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>>574791948
>plushies are for homos
jrpgs about your feelings are for homos too so, guess you're in the right place
make sure to get your blahaj too anon
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>>574790612
>when it's Soul = Mew Mew and Kris = Maddie.
It's definitely not. Ralsei outright says the body will die without the ghost in the same chapter where we see Kris dying without the SOUL. The fight was planned back in 2018, based on the Switch port borders, and Toby didn't realize what the average Deltarune player would be like back then so he wrote the parallel under some assumptions that turned out to be false. That's all.
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>>574789531
Fat people WON the Tumblr sexyman contest THOUGH
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>>574792170
Toby doesn't make mistakes
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Anyone know of other good fan-content watering holes? My horse is getting mighty thirsty.
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>>574791013
I imagine the timeline goes something like
>have the outline for Deltarune + weird route (Spamton is still the mad mailer at this point)
>make mettaton ex and neo in Undertale
>decide to include neo boss fight as part of the shadow crystal quest in the post-undertale development
>Mad Mailer gets developed into Spamton as concepts for the weird route get fleshed out
>Spamton likely gets decided to be the chapter 2 boss for the weird route
>Spamtons general arc and themes fit with wanting the Neo body so the script is adjusted to account for this on both routes
>since one shadow crystal is the discarded body of a ghost decide to finish it off with the body a ghost currently wants
>realize mad dummy is a great existing character for this but there isn't much allusion to the idea they want a new body in Undertale
>Add MMM for the switch release
>Give her a new soul mode that's might have more implications
>Add the irritable ghost dialogue for chapter 1 hometown segment to wrap it all up
>>574791491
>I wonder what it is about this character specifically that causes this sort of complaint
It's just chuds mad that they can't kill a tranny because they think being edgy and angry is the substitute for a personality
>>574791493
Plushies are cute. I like to collect pins so that's a big w for me also there's the piano scores if you want to do something nice with your time
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the fujo plush is telling me to skin people
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>>574792230
I don't get how Ryan Gosling got this far, is the modern sexyman ecosystem that bad?
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>>574792104
Fine Gaster, I'll take it. Is Chapter 6 ready?
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>>574787470
Can someone post the nigga hail Gaster audio? I'm trying to do something.
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>>574792362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X9ktfzJOa4
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>>574792397
these kids today don't respect tradition and try to change the definition of sexyman
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>>574791429
>Do you really think the message of the Pink fight was that Kris needs to submit to having their life stolen from them by an unknowable higher power that does not have their best interests at heart
that's a disingenuous way to frame it. i think the message of the fight is that there's a happy balance between the two extremes of "the soul is nothing more than a tool" and "the soul should live my life for me". the same way the fight doesn't end in Maddie completely overriding Mew Mew's desires, or Mew Mew's dating shit completely overtaking Maddie's will.
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>>574791825
But you still get -A achievements on the Playstation even when you're on the weird route
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>>574792230
Tenna isn't fat why do people keep drawing him fat.
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>>574787470
Hooman!
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>>574792104
once I get my REAL vessel I'm turning this them red
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I want Kris to fuck off. Toby we don't want to be Kris.
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>>574792230
Tenna is fat, keep drawing him fat
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>>574791918
I think that's because they're ghost tears, like all their ghost shit is stuff only they can interact with. I don't think say, Toriel's flames would be able to hurt Blooky.

>>574791768
The fight is set up for you to have to show her the power of love. I don't think it'd be very nice to be able to just destroy her body like in UT, ruin her dream forever and miss out on the "Hopes and Dreams" motif of these crystal fights. You have to do something that revitalizes her dream and nullifies the sadness of the crystal. Like Gerson taught you was possible. And like you're slowly giving Seam a reason to live. To account for variables where you're being a jerk or helping out would be too much of a pain too. Also she probably doesn't get tired either. Mad Dummy wanted to stall us forever and probably would have if it wasn't for Blooky. UTDR ghoss are just too broken under the right circumstances.
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I am Kris... and I am a kissless virgin....
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>>574792319
for "discussion" it's here, twitter, or tumblr I think
ao3 too for fics
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>Kris, be careful, mew. If the cats find you, they will molest you...mew :3
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>>574792607
>Tenna is fat
false
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>>574792572
As time goes on im more comfortable in the idea that Kris actually is just the Deltarune Chara but I still love art like this so much although I'm really starting to think the vessel might be frisk
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This pink stuff reminds me of the bit in Chapter 3 where you find a Grey cage and a Yellow cage and you have to choose between them kissing or the Yellow one punching out the Gray one
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>>574792669
Thats cool *rapes you*
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>>574792457
Toby could replace all of Noelle's sprites with ragefaces and wojaks for chapter 6 and artists would still draw them in the cute/yandere anime gorl style
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>>574792362
it's stuffed with... well... you know...
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unpopular opinion: mew mew magic sounds better without the vocals.
Love miku as much as the next guy but the instrumental is really good
https://youtu.be/p2n9tOpxjCE?si
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Maybe Toby shouldn't have made deltarune looks like it wasn't linear with its combat system.
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>>574792170
huh, i really thought i was onto something...
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>>574792812
why do you want to argue so badly
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>>574792447
Uh yeah man Chapter 6 is almost done it's in the playtesting phase we just gotta do some testing it won't take 2 years it won't take too long
>>574792574
Aqua...
>>574792538
Maybe it only counts as B once you're past the point of no return, as you can still abort the weird route in Chapter 5 (which is kinda funny, people thought that icing Berdly was the point of no return back in ch2)
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i collect action figures i recently got some more gi joes and a droideka and a couple of old men in black toys off ebay and i would want kris ralsei and susie in their battle forms to fight the robots and aliens and soldiers i have
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I just came to aqua's flower butt again
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Is this something?
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>>574792680
sex with friend (and pink)
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Noelle will do a deal with a demon and cause a lot of problems
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>>574792940
You sound cool. Can you show us the droideka?
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>>574792104
Kris being the intro vessel doesn't make sense
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>>574792872
It comes natural to me.
But it's true that Toby made us think the secret boss fights aren't linear.
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My power went out mid goon...

Someone post hot Seth pictures please!
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>>574793103
It's true but that ship had sailed as early as Chapter 3
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>>574792956
FRIENDS are just retarded cats, not a sadistic mastermind man, you've got to let it go
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>>574792956
If Dess shows up as an enemy it's gotta be Dess in control of her own actions or it'll be a thematic & such cop-out
If she is being possessed it's going to be something like how (We) sort of control Kris but can't make them do anything they aren't at least thinking of doing
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>>574792510
NTA but my previous got me thinking every secret boss has some kinda focus or aspect revolving around bodies
>Jevil can shapeshift and allegedly had a body that "cannot be killed"
>spamton can also morph his body to some degree and is obsessed with stealing the neo body and "becoming bigger" to point of abandoning his old body
>Mantle HAS no body, in the board games or otherwise/a mantle is something that covers the body
>Gerson is a corpse
>Pink has the whole thing with the mew mew body
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>>574793103
japanese soldier still fighting for 28 years
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>>574792783
Asgore…
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>>574793023
yeah that's (you) on the weird route
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Why does Toby think Susie has gotten ruder? She's back at 100 rude now, when it was only that high while she was a bully. It dropped to 99 when she joined for real in chapter 1, and has been 89 since chapter 2 before 5 set it back to 100
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Suckers cry about not being able to use violence on the new bosses because they wanna kill shit
I cry about not being able to use violence because I'm a coping Jevilfag and I NEED an excuse to use Devilsknife I NEED to force it to be relevant in some way PLEASE Mister Tobert give me the FIGHT + Pacify combo back
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>>574792956
>friend isn't a fucking flowey clone
best shit toby ever did
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>>574793159
but there are no hot pictures of Seth
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>>574793270
She swears more in this chapter
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>>574793270
Pussy makes you a bad bro.
Bros before hoes is the unrude conduct.
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>>574791491
>>574791584
I'm not a "why am I punished for clicking the FIGHT button let me play the game my way" retard but I don't see what legitimate reason there is that we CAN'T just FIGHT Flowery
He spends the entire Chapter antagonizing you, especially at the end where he directly challenges Susie and Ralsei to give them motivation, and frames the final battle as a conflict of your strength and will. You literally end the fight crossing swords with him, with a FIGHT prompt!
I could understand Susie and Ralsei refusing to FIGHT the other flowers... but they don't! You can beat Aqua and Seth unconscious, and attack Green with zero complaints after you've already befriended them! Why do they draw the line there?
Would it have been so wrong, or so much effort, to let these characters we're not even going to see again be upset with us and get a slightly worse ending? Why can't we validate exactly what Flowery accuses us of?
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>>574793270
>subtle storytelling that Susie regressed
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>>574793270
Making Kris third wheel and the way she handled Catti and scaring the little bunny kid is pretty rude but I don't know if it's 100 Rude
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>>574789308
It goes from literally the worst spite of all time to just 1/10 slop
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i do get upset that I can't kill mad mew mew in undertale tho in dt she is fine tho
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This forum is such a farm for insanity, it's been entertaining going through it
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>>574793270
She makes someone cry and bullies a toddler in this chapter
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>>574793023
So cute, the similarities are actually a little uncanny
>both generally the "straight man" to a more ridiculous cast
>both use magic
>blonde
>both easily flustered
>both care deeply for a messy girl who's a big eater
>both have massive cocks
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>>574791429
>submit to having their life stolen from them by an unknowable higher power that does not have their best interests at heart
Who the fuck says I don't. Why do I have to be a fucking eldritch monster when I'm part of it and Kris is too and I've been a good boy and not even watched most of the weird route shit. Why the fuck wouldn't we have their best interests at heart? I feel bad for Kris and I want theor pain to stop and you clearly do too. I understand they're afraid of us but look at what you're saying. You're white knighting them from yourself. Isn't that proof we're not the baddies here.

We are defnitely going to help Kris the same way the Mew Mew Darkner helps Maddie stop hating herself and it doesn't have to be a one-way street anyways, the point is trust each other.
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>>574793526
What the hell is this dark place you've shown?
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I think the fact that the new Deltarune chapters look so visually stunning (...most of the time) compared to Undertale/Chapter 1 is sometimes overlooked because the graphics gradually improved with each chapter to the point that it stopped being too surprising, but seriously imagine going back to 2019 and showing the whole Flowery battle to someone who had just played Chapter 1, they would never be able to tell it's the same game
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>>574793634
dont look into the abyss anon
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>>574793563
wrong
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>>574793563
I can accept Noelle's raging boner glowing with Holiday Reindeer Magic to light the way on a Foggy Christmas Night but Marcille with penis??? Be so for real
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>>574793563
and other stuff
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>>574793540
Both of those are played for laughs you autist
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>>574793635
It's overlooked because people like UTDR for the stories and the themes and such not the visuals which are still quite primitive.
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>>574793229
>mettaton has a body that cannot be killed
>spamton wears mettaton's body
>mantle has no body, like ghost mettaton is literally a nobody
>gerson is a corpse and mettaton is a ghost
>pink is mettaton's cousin

bravo toby
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>>574793635
I think the earlier chapters specifically Chapters 1 & 2's graphics have a lot more character to them which I think is more important than just sheer fidelity.
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>>574793367
Actually swears are tied to Crudeness, because that goes up by 1 in Ch1 if you make your team name "?!?! Squad"
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>>574793526
Not seeing "obese" or "fat" in the title. Thread disregarded as a fake-woke erasure of fat Tennas.
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>>574793410
>dude why can't I just kill flowery?
>dude why are the characters behaving differently at the dramatic climax of the chapter?
>why is the game telling me it's wrong to do the thing it's been telling has been wrong for 11 years?
>why is the game illustrating the wants and desires of the other two party members?
>why would the game do this after two chapters that are all about each of them going through huge character development moments?
Yes truly one does wonder
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You can tell Toby was never bullied as a kid.
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>>574793635
a lot of chapter 3 background art was stunningly ugly
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>>574793809
That knight is cyoot
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You can't really argue that the Pink fight is about the importance of body/soul communication anymore when the patch dialogue has Mew Mew completely blocking out the ghost while telling you important information. The Pink fight is about the SOUL completely submitting to the body, not mutual communication or compromise.
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It's so weird how Toby keeps writing stories about loss and identity when he has zero connections to those themes in real life is is just a gagshit homestuck guy who likes to laugh and cum
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let no statement of praise go unpunished
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I love how Tenna is a cute objecthead and isn't a human attached to retarded things like a race, this gives him undeniable superiority
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>>574793809
Is this why Dess is so evil? Because she can't have a nice refreshing glass of water?
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In chapter 6 Susie will drop an uncensored f-bomb screencap this post print it out hang it on your wall make it a tshirt
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>>574794048
holy shit
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>>574793410
Susie and Ralsei don't want to kill him. Kris doesn't mind, which is why he accepts Flowery's clash and beats him; Kris is also the only one that FIGHTs Flowery.
It's pretty simple, Ralsei doesn't want to act as an arbiter of fate by cutting Flowery down. This is pointed out by Flowery if you lose a couple times, Ralsei hopes that Flowery will change fate by beating him. And Susie has grown to value the dark world a little too much, which is why she refuses to give up Castle Town while also refusing to turn to violence against Flowery. If you can't tell, Susie wants to have her cake and eat it too.
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>>574793774
Yeah, and? Susie's rudeness is played for laughs in chapter 1 too aside from when she bullies Kris specifically. That's why she's back to her chapter 1 stats.
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>>574793707
I didn't say she topped with it
>>574793754
It's ridiculous common to see her depicted that way you clearly don't know ball
>>574793773
Wait so true...
>>574793809
Always bet on mettaton knight
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>>574793410
I'm gonna say it, Flowery's battle is incredibly manipulative in how it's structured. That whole scene is a gamble because if you get charmed by him lile the characters you agree with everything about the fight. If you find him annoying (which is VERY possible between the constant shittalking and the difficulty of the fight and his nature as a weird off-putting anime parody), then the bravado, the saccharine flavor texts, the blaring music with the rainbow karaoke, your own fucking allies working against you because this guy is so gosh darn great (but they had no issue wasting Tenna apparently), it all feels like the game trying way too fucking hard to make you like this guy or at the very least seriously consider if you aren't the bad guy for antagonizing him (which is retarded as if you can realistically keep a black hole of darkness magic in a shop in the middle of american suburbia)
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>>574793971
i should make a designated knight folder

>>574794068
>can't get a nice drink despite being in the lake
poor girl
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do we have a whiteboard archive or something? does the owner regularly save the whole whiteboard?
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>>574792978
yes but make them feral first
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>>574793929
And that's a good thing. I wish more people lead peaceful lives and were able to artistically actualize themselves.

Everyone is so broken from trauma, abuse, and social hysteria that it's a wonder anything functions at all.
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>>574794229
Raly said, calmly
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Pink fight is about how the ghost and the soul are clueless retards.
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>The UT community used to be the capital of loli and incest
>now it can't even handle somebody not liking Suselle
The internet's gone to shit in every single way
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>>574794262
there's an anon who has saved every piece of whiteboard art. i think they posted a zip of their collection once
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>>574792607
Tenna is a gorgeous thin man in shape
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>>574794090
I can't believe all it took for Sweet Cap'n Cakes to become funny is to put one of them in a horrible relationship and let him swear
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>>574794283
i like them humane features
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>>574794229
ralsei...
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>>574794048
I think that's just the darkner body not wanting to drag the Ghost into another horrible sittuation because she's had enough of that shit for life.
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>>574794338
don't worry, it seems like you'll get your solid year of uninterrupted bitching and moaning about nothing, just like you wanted
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>>574794229
>your own fucking allies working against you because this guy is so gosh darn great (but they had no issue wasting Tenna apparently)
technically the difference is that tenna was the knight's patsy so he was fair game, flowery had muh good reason
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>>574794393
no
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>>574794229
>very least seriously consider if you aren't the bad guy for antagonizing him
The point isn't that you're supposed to agree with flowery the point is that he's genuine in his convictions. The other flowers still side with him because they share his goal to uplift Asgore and also share his limitations. They have this one day to live their dream, and they want to fight for it. Imo the only the true failing with flowery is that we don't get to see him interact with the other flowers enough outside of scenes with Asgore
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>>574794340
when was that? I hope it's updated.
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>>574794393
unbased
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why did darkner mew mew have experience with cats at all? is alphys secretly a psycho?
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>>574794372
I pity the people who skipped the Ch5 CastleTown segment because it has some of the best comedic dialogue in the game
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>>574794436
Also Tenna literally had Toriel captive
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>>574794436
Queen wasn't a knight patsy and you could red buster her in the face.
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>>574791905
>Kris but the Soul is a bratty version of themselves
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>>574792510
>there's a happy balance between the two extremes
Again, do we REALLY think that Kris wants to be possessed in the long term?
Pink/Maddie/Mew Mew is two people who love each other/themself sharing a body willingly
What is Kris supposed to take from that as someone being possessed against their will by a force they can't understand?

>>574793603
>We are defnitely going to help Kris the same way the Mew Mew Darkner helps Maddie stop hating herself
HOW? We CANNOT communicate with Kris the way that Pink's body and soul do!
You guys have been watching too many fan games where Kris just starts talking to us and works it out. That's not how DELTARUNE works! Kris can talk, but YOU can't hear them!
Even if we want to do what Kris would do, we can only guess at that! And we only have the options given to us! Who's to say that either choice between "Make out with Ralsei/Kill him with hammers" is what Kris actually wants?
And it's pretty clear that what Kris REALLY wants is for us to give them their SOUL back and leave them the fuck alone! Kris isn't in love with You! There isn't a happy ending where you're still together!
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>>574794707
queen had berdly attached to the succ-o-matic
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>>574794634
alphys played cat petterz
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>>574794229
They work against you because they want to beat Flowery at his own game and prove they're better than him
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>>574794634
>why does the catgirl darkner know about cats?
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>>574794338
here in particular it's more that it can't handle somebody liking suselle
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>>574793856
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>A linear, chapter-based system that you can pick up from anywhere.
It's linear you know
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>>574794229
>very least seriously consider if you aren't the bad guy for antagonizing him
the point is that the heroes ARE "bad guys" and they can't change it but desperately wish to, which is why they don't actually want to murder Flowery (among other reasons)
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>>574794634
Darkners based on fictional characters have memories from their fictional lives and all media in the Deltarune universe is based on the prophecy somehow. I believe this until proven otherwise.
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Why didn't Toby Fox let me kill Asriel at the end of True Pacifist? He stole everybody's souls and tortured them for who knows how long and he was just standing there defenseless after breaking the barrier. It's safer and more just to put him down rather than to let him become Flowey again.
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>>574794781
>Again, do we REALLY think that Kris wants to be possessed in the long term?
long term? no
until we fix whatever the fuck we need to fix? yes
>We can't talk to kris
obviously, but if the little twerp would stop trying to hide everything we could maybe help
I mean, it makes sense in-universe, they're rightfully terrified of what it could (and does) do on weird route, but I'd be surprised if that split is always kept as it is
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>>574794921
okay that's actually a good one, we do know mew mew has a beach scene with snail ice cream and the beach is the schizo room.
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>>574794976
Not hugging him is worse than death
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>>574794338
>>The UT community used to be the capital of loli and incest
Child brides used to be acceptable, the world moves on. You wont get this is actually an improvement though because you're disgusting .pdf seething he's getting judged for jacking off to kids.
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>>574794921
>and all media in the Deltarune universe is based on the prophecy
Does love find its way to Lisa Sympton?
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>>574794781
>as someone being possessed against their will by a force they can't understand
this is headcanon and very unlikely. Kris clearly has plans about us and they understand the soul well enough to cage us.
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>>574794136
pretty pretty princess (male)
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>>574794497
They're all genuine in their convictions. King feels betrayed by the Lightners, Queen genuinely thinks she can rule the world better than if left untouched, Tenna is desperate to be loved again, the Titan was probably gay or some shit. Flowery ain't special.
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I just want to see Asriel again.
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>>574794515
not too long ago i think, i don't remember if they catboxed it or if they just said they've saved everything
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>>574794634
Narratively, the Shadow Crystals just expose you to this eldritch knowledge. It was too late for Spamton but not for her.

>>574794781
>HOW? We CANNOT communicate with Kris the way that Pink's body and soul do!
I have not played a single fangame and you're jumping to conclusions as I also do think we'll separate by the end. We won't fuse, but our wills will, even if for a moment. You take these comparisons way too literally. Communication doesn't have to even be verbal, there's a million ways this could go.
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>>574794781
>What is Kris supposed to take from that as someone being possessed against their will by a force they can't understand?
anon they very obviously know how the soul works, they rip (You) out frequently
they aren't pure evil but they aren't some helpless little victim in this either
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>>574795181
>Tenna is desperate to be loved again,
Boo hoo nigga, who isn't?
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The Secret Boss of Chapter 7 will be the Darkner of a Bootleg Blart Sympton T-Shirt
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>>574795143
The Symptons is a weird hybrid of the Simpsons and Voltron so I imagine they took a lot of inspiration from the part of the prophecy where you have a combining mecha. So there's probably a season where Lisa casts Snowgrave on Ralph.
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What if the promise that Kris is trying to keep is pure evil?
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>>574794136
>i've a prince for a while
so what was he before he was a prince
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>so that's it? you're just going to cut me down?
It's precisely because it's a contest of wills that you can't FIGHT Flowery. You would literally fucking kill him instantly. He is all for show. The final "attack" against Omega Flowery is just a deflecting counter, the fact that he isn't fucking dying proves it.
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>>574795324
Homer Maggie Blart
Homer Maggie Blart
Lisa
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>>574795489
Shouldn't have talked shit if he didn't want the smoke
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>>574794338
there are only boys in that picture
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>>574795395
>pure evil
evil doe....
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>>574794136
>You can put Susie in a princess outfit
>You can allow Ralsei to be your princess
Why did Mr. Fox do this?
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>>574795591
Flowery intended to give you the opportunity to prove and strengthen your own will. He says as much if you refuse to counter him.
>come on, kris, you're not giving up on your dad now, are you!?
or something to that effect
>I thought they wanted to show...
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>>574795683
hey i reconize that art style!
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>Jevil is beyond derranged, doesn't know what is going on and is fully batshit, is 100% a darkner
>Spamton is relatively sane but knows he's turbofucked in all regards and is desperately trying to do anything to escape it, uses equipment made by a lightner
>Mantle is ?????? might be a cause of some of this, no clue as to what it is at all
>Gerson has some large regrets but isn't demented becuase he didn't use the crystal, knows about the prophecy and wants to try and fight it, is the memory of a lightner
>Pink is completely sane, hasn't used the crystal, and is (half) a full alive lightner, though the darkner half seems to know some shit about FRIEND and co
I have no idea why people were expecting the last secret boss to go back to jevil levels of insanity since they've gotten more and more coherent (and less darkner) as the bosses have gone on
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>>574793526
this forum wouldn't actually be so unusable for some people here
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>>574793906
>>574794190
>dude why can't I just kill flowery?
FIGHTing people doesn't fucking kill them in this game!
You're just beating them up!
You're asserting your will over them by force!
That's exactly what fucking happens anyway!
All of the bullshit in Flowery's fight (WHERE HE BEATS YOU UP) doesn't matter, it ends with a clash of strength and will between Kris and Flowery! THE LAST THING YOU DO IN THE BATTLE IS A FIGHT PROMPT!!
Is it such a ridiculous fucking question to ask why we can beat the fuck out of an innocent child or kind chef, but not this fucking guy who EXPECTS you to fight him?
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>>574795395
Then that little bastard let me help I wanna do some evil stuff give me many evil routes I wanna be naughty ooo yeah heheheh....
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>>574794781
>do we REALLY think that Kris wants to be possessed in the long term?
it's only for 7 days, anon :)
>What is Kris supposed to take from that as someone being possessed against their will by a force they can't understand?
you're making fundamental assumptions about Kris' relation to the soul here. i thought the reveal that they're the "Cage" in the prophecy, their collaboration with Carol, known to be fixated on red, heart-shaped objects, and the fact that they literally have a birdcage for holding the Soul when they want to act without it coupled with the fact that they've never owned a pet bird, would indicate that Kris isn't just an unwilling recipient of posession, but someone intentionally using the Soul to get what they want while restricting its influence on what they don't; they're the CAGE, after all. Kris isn't an unwitting bystander man this is something they're deep into
>What is Kris supposed to take from that
collaborate with the Soul more, obviously. there are several scenes where they put us in a cage to do things behind our back, and they're always shambling and stiff while doing it. it'd be a lot easier if they trusted us to concede control to let them do what needs to be done, like Chapter 4's piano scene
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>>574794681
>It's been 24 hours. I may as well be dead.
Fucking kills me every time, I was so sad that dialogue didn't reset when I exited the room the first time I saw it
>>574795181
>They're all genuine in their convictions
Well yes that's part of the point. King, Queen and Tenna all had real feelings and beliefs and convictions. King feels so strongly that he refuses to be a part of Castle Town and Tenna so strongly that he'd rather exist inanimate in the light world and be watched than exist in Castle Town. The difference is how Flowery and the others operate on their own logic, they didn't need to be threatened or coerced like Tenna or have evil plots to execute, they had a dream and wanted to actuate just like our heroes
>Flowery ain't special
Perhaps not in the grand scheme of things but flowery isn't ultimately what made the difference here; it was Ralsei and Susie. Ralsei to prove that his way of being works, that he can change things and Susie because she wants to solve things without destroying things unnecessarily. You can't take the way out, you can't cut him down faster by having high stats and you have reckon with what your friends want and how that affects you
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>>574795792
Why did Ralsei have this PBS Kids mentality of you must be kind to everyone from the start?
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>>574794781
I don't know how people think we AREN'T going to have some kind of mutual relationship after all the shit that happens in chapter 4.
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>>574794338
>used to be the capital of loli
There are zero loli characters in Undertale, it's why people got so thirsty for aqua.
>incest
If you're talking about Asriel and Chara, they aren't blood siblings, it's fine. The Undertale fanbase has an average amount of incest porn for a fandom that has characters that are related.
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>>574795792
Just FIGHTing Flowery is refusing to engage with him seriously because he isn't capable of matching you blow-for-blow in a violent confrontation. Your party literally has to heal him if you try to FIGHT him. It's okay to press the FIGHT button, many times. Not this time.
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im a tranny and dont relate to pink at all, why do people think she is le trans allegory? is it just a meme?
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>>574795443
Alien bacteria colony
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What if toby directly rips off a plot point from a different game (again) but alphys is present for it and he makes her say "Symptons did this first y'know"
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if kris is AU frisk, then who is AU chara?
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>>574795760
I honestly don't mind that progression because doing "AIIIIEEEEE I'M GOING INSAAAANE" for five chapters would have gotten boring. Not keeping the freedom motif (not the musical one, the thematic one) for Mew Mew was weak however.
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>>574795961
Same reason he doesn't want to use his fire magic, violence hard locks you into the tragic ending somehow
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>>574796009
if you're not shitposting same.
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If Susie and Ralsei refuse to do what I say, they should fuck off from my party. Give me Berdly and Noelle
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>>574795143
>after season 2 it lost the focus on the family that it had earlier
Chapter 1 was all about family
>They rebooted it as Symptons Turbo
>They all started driving their own motor-vehicles
>And fighting giant giga-demons and stuff
Chapter 2, the heroes do battle in chariots and fight Giga-Queen
>When their vehicles were shaped like animals
>And they were friends with the animal vehicles too
Also Chapter 2, referring to the rollercoasters and how Thrash Machine is made of all our friends
>And let's not get into Symptons Galaxy Force
>Where the Symptons discover another Earth
>On the other side of the Sun
Chapter 3, the heroes travel among the islands and catch a glimpse of the lost land, the Isles of Northern Light
The Symptons? Lore relevant
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>>574795961
are you blind or something
he directly, explicitly says "I wanted to be nice to literally everyone because I thought it might help change the prophecy"
this is the level of secondary that we're dealing with here
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What December saw the moment she stopped taking her medication
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>>574795792
are you ignoring the fact that your party members don't want to do it? i'll say it again, Kris is fine with fighting him which is why it's how the fight ends, but Susie and Ralsei aren't, for character reasons
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Do you think Toby has the capacity to make a non-meta non-humorous videogame?
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>>574796009
you need to try harder
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>>574796046
gerson wanted to be free of the prophecy and pink (or well, the ghost I guess) wanted to be "free" in the dark world, since they are literally physically trapped in the doll (if they want to use the doll, which they do)
plus the song does have freedom in it
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>>574795961
Because he thought pacifism might change the ending of the prophecy somehow
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>>574796190
is that producer-san on the right?
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>>574796114
reminds me of posting on tumblr on 2019
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>>574796297
no it's a girl that used to be a boy
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I don't understand why people want the hospital to be the dark world so bad when it has such little Darkner potential
The only interesting thing it has is that maybe Berdly would get the Old Man treatment in an aborted weird route, everything with saving Rudy could be done at his home and produce a much more satisfying Dark World
What could the hospital even have? The flowers Assgore gives to Rudy as Plantners, that bead toy in the lobby, the piano?
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Fact: This is Undyne's favorite song to sing at Karaoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J04sfXbS2PA
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>>574796105
sometimes I forget that battat is an actual character in the game and not just one of the glup shitto ocs from here
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>chapter 1 boss
fight/spare
>chapter 2 boss
fight/spare
>chapter 3 boss
fight/spare
>chapter 4 boss
fight only
>chapter 5 boss
spare only

seems perfectly balanced to me.
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>susie feeling like shit whenever ralsei bullies orange
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>>574796062
I miss wiwis
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>>574796009
>>574796083
I hope you two are for real.

I know a lot of trannies and most of them have a lot of self hate and cling to this kinda stuff. Maddie hates herself without a nice body and its very sad. Self destructive.

I hope you don't hate yourself. Don't self destruct.
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>>574796383
Half the good ideas for a hospital darkner were already taken with Virokun and Ambyoolance or whatever it was called
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>>574796383
>when it has such little Darkner potential
Thats kind of the point, we want a dark world thats actually fucked up for once and isnt some happy-go-lucky fantasyland where everyone is just a wacky guy. How does a dark world react to being in a room where nothing happy happens?
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>>574795825
but kris isnt the cage, hes the knight with the blackened knife, literally
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>>574795792
>All of the bullshit in Flowery's fight (WHERE HE BEATS YOU UP) doesn't matter
Idk if you noticed but a huge theme in the series for 11 years is not fighting people who are attacking you
>THE LAST THING YOU DO IN THE BATTLE IS A FIGHT PROMPT!!
That doesn't matter anyway and if you do succeed it's only to deflect his final attack before burns out. The point is either way he's putting everything into an attack that can't defeat Kris anyway
>but not this fucking guy who EXPECTS you to fight him?
Because Ralsei and Susie don't want to
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>>574796383
>What could the hospital even have? The flowers Assgore gives to Rudy as Plantners, that bead toy in the lobby, the piano?
why say this just after the chapter where they just had things that could be in the room with the scarecrows, the crow-dogs, a literal leaf, pot, wood, etc
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>>574795760
Yeah this is mostly my recollection. These were in an ascending line of happy ending. But I think the Mew Mew Darkner used the crystal extensively. Explains the two sets of strings (a Lightner's will vs the power of a Darkner wielding their broken dream). The only difference is we're able to get her out of the dark pit Spamton and Jevil were plunged into. Gerson is the only one that didn't ever truly use it at all, because he is that wise and he believes in his son. And I have the pet theory that the Knight is made out of pure shadow crystal.

>>574796046
Pink feels so fucking powerless as a ghost though, a lot of her sadness is about wanting to be someBODY, and changing in a way the Light World doesn't really let her. That's her search for freedom. And the part of the song that uses the freedom motif is the bridge, the only one where the ghost is explicitly singing:

>To the sweet you, Bullet, bullet, wish you luck
>Hear my grumpy singing voice, Mew it, mew it, you'll be struck
>But with a dreaming heart, squeeze, and squeeze, and be filled with determination


The word they use for "grumpy" in Japanese is "ぷんすか", which was the adjective applied to the Mad Dummy. The rest of the song is either the Mew Mew Darkner talking about the end of the world, or just, the real Mew Mew theme song.
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>>574796383
no one really wants it but it's the natural progression of the story for the inevitable rudy dustner.

>>574796494
alas
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>>574795792
>THE LAST THING YOU DO IN THE BATTLE IS A FIGHT PROMPT!!
yea and you can just not do it
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>>574796407
Is karaoke fun?
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>>574796505
esl chaser kun...
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>>574796438
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>>574795792
And that reminds me, remember how Flowery ACTs on your party and increases Susie and Ralsei's mercy meter?
Why the FUCK is that a one-time thing and not an actual mechanic of the fight?!
If they're so unwilling to fight him, why not demonstrate that through gameplay and have Flowery actually convince them NOT to fight as the fight goes on?

>>574796158
>are you ignoring the fact that your party members don't want to do it?
I understand that perfectly, I'm saying I don't buy it.
The game failed to convince me that Susie and Ralsei have a good enough reason to lose their nerve and suddenly refuse to FIGHT after getting taunted by Flowery once.
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Is Blue a groomer because Yellow is so dumb he might as well be genuinely retarded?
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>>574796671
If you actually know the song you're singing and let loose a little? Yeah. Con karaoke is a great time if you don't have the time or location to do it with friends regularly
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>>574796698
Noelle get your hotdog head ass off my file select I don't want your dork ass.
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>>574796462
she's a hypocrite
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>>574796749
The state of our general... it is truly GRIM...
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"Humans and monsters" seems reductive in light of ch 5 and DR in general
Feels more like
>Humans/Angels, defined by the ability to have a soul/angel/heartshapedobject they can remove and possess that they're co-dependent on(?)
>Lightners, have souls that can alter but they're binded to them. Boss monster souls are stronger (I think the dremurrs and maybe the holidays are boss monsters? Or the boss monster souls stuff is not a thing in DR)
>Goners, clones of lightners. How much soul they even have isn't clear.
>Ghosts who exist as spirits without vessels that have an angel-like interaction with the objects they possess
>Plantner, flowers/plants that listen who have souls that need a dark world to fully animate. Unclear how much the fountain maker matters due to the way they exist as living beings in the light world giving them more agency than a darkner (I think?)
>Darkners, pure anima/kami that only "come alive" from dark fountains, affected by who makes the fountain
>Dustner, lightners reincarnated from dust in a dark world and the memories of the fountain maker
>Abyssner, formed from shadows and have white outlines.
>Titan, pure conceptual manifestation, fear in primordial form, can only manifest with recursive dark fountains
Which is more convoluted but the soul lore differences between UT and DR are very noticeable to me. Boss monster souls don't get brought up and ch 5 depicted different mechanics for it than in UT.
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>>574796569
>Idk if you noticed but a huge theme in the series for 11 years is not fighting people who are attacking you
Shut the fuck up.
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>>574795760
>>574796585
I think Gerson probably did use the Shadow Crystal but is tanking the Madness to get the message to his son and to help the kids who need his help
The throughline seems to be that connections and love are the key to fighting whatever darkness the Shadow Crystals contain, Seam's biggest regret is locking Jevil away and Spamton went so crazy BECAUSE of lost love
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>>574796630
wiwis have gone extinct after decades of habitat destruction
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>>574796778
>reason to lose their nerve and suddenly refuse to FIGHT after getting taunted by Flowery once.
anon what the fuck are you talking about
susie spends pretty much the entire chapter thinking Flowery is a great guy and loves him
ralsei is the one who hates him because of him not following "the script" and even then doesn't want him dead
why would either of them actually want to fight?
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>>574796790
anon are you saying retards don't deserve love
why would you insult yourself like that
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are these guys really going to sperg out about nothing all day
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>>574796108
nah i ignore all pacifism messages and run the fade on anyone i don't like and the only 2 i don't like are tenna and king
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>>574796793
>location
Where do you even do karaoke, anyways?
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>>574797015
this place was genuinly better when everyone was just being horny retards and Im not joking
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>>574796952
yea and then you spare him, retard
just like you can have the token attack at the end of flowery's fight
>>574797015
they've been at it for a month, who knows
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>>574796383
The bead toy is used as a metaphor for the prophecy/narrative so it could actually be a really interesting Darkner. The Angel doll would be interesting, the flowers from Asgore's shop would be too. The ICE-E pain chart would also make a good Darkner. Generic medical equipment could fill out the roster.
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>>574796778
Susie and Ralsei gaining Mercy meters was cool as hell and a bit spooky. I wanted them to give up and Kris to not. I kinda got that with the Omega 1v1 but yeah it shoulda been a thing.
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>>574796462
i actually really liked Susie being uncomfortable with Ralsei's condescending attitude towards Orange, but i can't remember if it went anywhere or culminated in anything aside from just being a character detail
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deltarune is a linear game, toby told you
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toby is a liar
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>>574797108
I agree on the bead toy but Angel Doll and ICE-E can both be done at the holiday mansion as well
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>>574796749
On an instintcual level being forced to fight something that is fighting you makes sense no matter how many people dislike it, being forced NOT to when that something is still fighting you doesnt
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I think the issue of the Hospital Dark World is that if the Holiday Mansion Dark World isn't next chapter then when is it
Is there enough time for the last chapter to fit in both a giant mansion and whatever's up with the shelter and the lake
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>>574795792
I let Flowery get that last hit. I trusted the game to respect my choice and not gameover, and it didn't. These games are not like other games, anon. The fight is a performance to carry the ideas of the conflict
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>>574797223
>being forced NOT to when that something is still fighting you doesnt
man anon do I have a game for you
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Sucking on Seth's small nerd pp while they praise my vacuum strategy
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>>574796505
its more like it just isnt relateable, its not like i dont have a body, it just sucks and what it "wants" naturally would just make me some kind of hairy crossdressing twink
i just dont see how it relates to pink at all, id rather not have a body than have one i hate
i think trannies just like her bc shes a pink catgirl with giant tits
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>>574797223
This is a you problem, I think. I know lots of people who were confused at not being able to spare the Titan. There's a reason Ralsei has that
>what are you doing?! attack!
dialogue
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>>574796962
The throughline is simply put, Hopes and Dreams as Pink namedrops. That's all there is to it but yeah love and connections seem to be the way. Mettaton's dream was part of what turned Spamton insane but it doesn't seem so hopeless now you've given him Tenna.
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you can make a lot of choices in chapter 5:
>give toriel the toast or not
>vote for festival king and queen
>pick who’ll be that one guy’s girlfriend for the duet
>boop susie’s nose or not
>PROCEED
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>>574797242
>mom keeps everything important at home.
unless Toby wants to pull another vague post chapter at the very end of the game and leave everything for chapter 7 it needs to happen at the holiday house because we can't do all of the shelter and the mansion all in once chapter unless one of the areas is just fighting dark and Titan spawn
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>>574796952
>Exactly one time in Undertale you have to fight someone besides Flowey
>Don't even have to kill him
>Doesn't matter anyway because frisk will always reload a neutral ending
Okay retard
>>574796946
>Boss monster souls don't get brought up and ch 5 depicted different mechanics for it than in UT.
Most of what you said is either schizo hallucinations or misunderstanding the lore but I want to know what this means. When did Asgore's soul come up? Why would it have come up? When did the game imply that boss monster souls don't work the same way?
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>>574797223
>on an instinctual level
i mean when i first fought Flowery i did attack him because it's the climactic final battle, only to get the dialogue about Susie and Ralsei not wanting to beat him through violence, which i thought was cooler thematically because it's the chapter about bonds, and you use yours to beat Flowery's
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>>574797086
Yeah... I remember taking a break in chapter 2 era cause there were just so many puppet fuckers but this is somehow... worse...
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>>574797365
FORCED. AS IN NO CHOICE BUT TO.
Making the choice yourself is an entirely different thing
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deltarune has normalized they/thems for me. I know longer struggle as much not to misgender males and females who go by they/them.
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>>574796946
Considering Aqua can change her form on the fly and Flowery stayed the same when The Knight made a frame-perfect second fountain, I'd say the fountain maker doesn't matter when it comes to Plantners
How does Floradinn fit into this? Uhhhh plantermination
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So is it just me or did Chapter 5 somehow attract this massive influx of newfags that haven’t really played this game before?
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>>574788930
>>574789380
I hate this stupid gormless freak baby
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>>574797394
Pink's conflict is about her new self that she's discovered, not about her natural ghost body that she's no longer being. The persona of Pink is her new, real self, and she's anxious about sharing it with other people. It's not a message about listening to your biology. You are looking at it wrong
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>>574797574
almost like they came from somewhere else known for not playing the games they talk about
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>>574797570
i thought floradinns text said it wasnt a flower
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Why do you want to kill Flowery or the 7 colored flowers?
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>>574797451
>that one guy
burgerbros..............................................
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>>574797551
always misgender females who use they/them bro, theyre an actual scourge
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The important thing about the Holiday Mansion is that "Susie needs to go back and get the full guitar code" has been built up as a future plot point for 2 chapters now and it would be really anticlimactic for it to just be "you go into it in the Light World and Kris tries to stop you" again, or for it to happen offscreen
The logical solution is to make it a Dark World
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BASED SOVL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd9hnjTQayk

cringe soulless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Fzj0IGH4U
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>>574797574
It's just that Deltarune is more popular than ever unironically
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>>574797075
Your friend's place? Bars? Karaoke lounges? One time on a cruise with my family some little 80 year old man started belting out Sinatra it was wonderful
>>574796962
>I think Gerson probably did use the Shadow Crystal
He did not, his son's dreams arent his to leverage
>but is tanking the Madness
Shadow crystals don't do this, it's fanon based on incomplete information. Pink uses her shadow crystal after the second dating scene and is clearly not driven mad and Spamton finds his shadow crystal in the Neo body and is crazy way before that
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>>574797508
Im talking even just two weeks before when people were drawing a borderline orgy on the whiteboard with how stupid horny everyone was before the /v/ colonizers came and made this thread about video game discussion.
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>>574797394
"Trannies" will tell you very clearly why the character connects with them and why they are catching on to the purposeful coding but people here will rather clog their ears and go "lalalalala".
I'll grant that the whole clownshow with Ralsei doesn't help but regardless.
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>>574797570
Actually I just remembered The Knight supposedly made the Chapter 1 fountain where the Rudinns come from so I guess Floradinns staying as Floradinns makes perfect sense
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>>574795592
>>574795974
Frisk and Chara are cute lolis
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>>574797570
>Flowery stayed the same when The Knight made a frame-perfect second fountain
Jeez I wonder why nothing actually changed in the presentation of flower king between the knight and kris's dark worlds, how queer... I'm sure that means absolutely nothing
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>>574797097
>>574797463
>>574796973
>even then doesn't want him dead
oh my god how fucking Undertale-brained are you people
FIGHT does not mean KILL
Some people can't be reasoned with! Some people have to be beaten with force!
REMEMBER? The lesson you learned fighting Asgore in Undertale? The lesson RALSEI learned in CHAPTER ONE?
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need deer with pixie cuts
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Say the line Kris
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>>574797648
I don't give a shit about the other 6 I wanted to beat up Flowery specifically. He set out to ragebait me and my hat's off to him cause he succeeded
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Im cishet and I didnt connect with any of the flowers. They felt too pozzed even for deltarune standards
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So
Transei canon?
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>>574797219
That's true. Honestly, they're basically interchangeable in a lot of ways. The Holiday house has more backstory stuff and a shelter code, while the hospital has a more overtly dark atmosphere, but either would work for a Noelle-centric chapter. Personally, I think there will be an extra long light world segment where we deal with Noelle's family drama and then either get the codes or bypass the lock somehow so the main dark world of the chapter will be the shelter itself.
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>>574797696
I think they're both cool as heck. Then again, I do love myself a tasty bishie.
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>>574797905
Flowery is a 20+ year old flower that has to be kept in a glass container because he's so difficult to take care of
Fighting Flowery probably would kill him even if you don't intend to
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>>574797570
>>574797635
>Looks like Rudinn, but stronger and better. It thinks it's a flower and probably so does everyone else. Idolizes Flowery and Green.
It doesn't quite say that it's not a flower so... Maybe it's just a schizo way of saying nothing and it's just a flower
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>>574797891
VesselKnightbros we're so back
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>>574797694
You cant use "It would be anticlimatic for Susie to find out about the code offscreen" as a point against it happening, because that's literally exactly what happened with the flower king code. Flowery had to tell her, offscreen, where it was.
She's going to sneak in offscreen while the entire holiday family is at the hospital and get the code that way
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>>574797606
i just cant conceptualize a tranny allegory that doesnt have a good amount of body horror i guess or like being forced into a role you arent
>>574797801
im the clogged ear tranny here
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>>574797960
ISN'T SHE LOVELY
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>>574797161
I was waiting for her to call him out on it but she never does, kinda a weird thread to just never resolve
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>>574797909
"Bangin' sermon, my man!"
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>>574797958
Orange is good
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>>574797907
rare blonde dessie
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>>574797927
Ragebait? All he does is do wacky JoJo poses and solve puzzles. He's a complete nothing character, he barely talks to you. Seth is practically the main character of Chapter 5.
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>>574798058
Nah bro...
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>>574797905
This just isn't the situation with Flowery. Just like it wasn't the situation with the Titan, you were playing for keeps, there.
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>>574797736
>Pink uses her shadow crystal after the second dating scene
Wait how can you tell
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Deltarune is normalizing being a therian/otherkin
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DESS GROOMED ME
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>Ralsei tells me Flowery dollars useless
>Spend them on useless shit
>Actuallly they are important and you get giga op human flower items with them

fuck you Ralsei you stupid cunt
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Alphys... this is not school appropriate... what will your students think...
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>>574798167
Dess... how could you.....
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>>574798050
It's the fireshock-wielding mage who leaves the party in the Ice Palace, not Susie
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>>574798165
you cant normalize something impossible
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>>574798140
he's wrong. maddie says she doesn't know what it is.
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>>574798031
I thought Floradinns were smushed petals but now I have my doubts
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>>574798213
What the fuck does that have to do with anything
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>>574787518
wanted to make a gif like https://limewire.com/d/BeWEj#9GxuTyIzDm (catbox is down) but working with parallax sprites sucks so this is all I could do
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>>574798254
They're flowers that have been pressed and preserved in books. That's why you press them in one of their ACTs, and why they're Darkners and not living Flowers.
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>>574797891
No one asked you, time loopfag
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>>574798054
The whole point is that it's the ghost's new identity that they got live as for a short time but don't want to share with others. The other trans allegory in Deltarune is the Neo Body that the Mettaton ghost abandoned. Both ghosts are trans allegories. Pink is just one that's working out, whereas Mettaton's is a broken dream that spawned a dark crystal
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>>574798059
i figure it'll come up later as some sort of conflict between them (not the Orange stuff specifically but more Ralsei's attitude that caused it) because it seems too intentional to just be one-off
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>>574798205
built for proneboning until the crack of dawn
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>>574798254
this connects up to pink claiming she's a flower somehow

>>574798292
VIRUS LINK
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>>574797905
How you fight king doesn't matter, either way he gets the jump on you and he's either defeated by lancer getting everyone to turn against him or Ralsei casting pacify. If you'll notice, neither outcome actually requires the party to use force and neither outcome is affected by our use of force or waiting him out. Similarly with Queen (except for Berdly) and Tenna, wether or not you fight doesn't really matter because you still get to the same end point, the difference is how you treat everyone else up to that point. My point is that you got a choice in all those battles and that choice wasn't what made a difference. Susie and Ralsei do not give you that choice against flowery which matters because it's a moment about them asserting themselves and wanting to solve things differently. The story is about them as much as it is about Kris, you have to accept that we're going to see them react to the narrative and affect how we progress
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>>574797736
Not him but it's undeniable that Shadow Crystals expose you to some kind of meta eldritch knowledge, or else it doesn't make sense for Pink to know about the cats and shit. Fickle and inconsistent as this all seems to be, broken dreams or their power are a thing that has the power to warp a Darkner's mind.

>>574798140
Green strings. I think she had been "using" it for a long time, or more accurately, it grew inside of her because Maddie was possesing her.
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>>574798219
Religious people when you believe animal souls can exist inside humans and souls can get mixed up
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>>574798254
If it's a Hanafuda card or something then it's a flower-themed object that turns into a flower Darkner
Like how Rudinn is a playing card but is also a snakey thing
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The whole "frame-perfect Fountain" thing never made any sense to me. It takes a while for the darkness to actually be dispelled. Like, the screen stays white during that time, while everyone is blinded by the glow of the soul. That's a fairly generous window for the Knight to create a new Fountain.
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>>574798341
>fighting crushed dried corpses
bro that's kinda fucked up bro what the fuck this thing is fucking scary
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>>574798234
twitter meme.
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>>574798341
>these things are dead flowers that have been crushed
Kind of metal
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>>574798181
oh yeah the flower drinks are busted as fuck. the whole idea of healing is that you're using your turn without advancing the fight. it's supposed to be a tradeoff. but healing and getting TP at the same time? now you can facetank attacks and still afford the really expensive ACTs.
I mean if you bring 12 flower drinks that's 192 TP through healing! what the fuck is that
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>>574798472
>>574798497
Why do you think they're so freaky, bro? Their whole backstory is FRICKED up.
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>>574796749
>This giant mindless abomination cannot be reasoned with and needs to be killed (actually just BANISHED with the SOUL's light)
Yeah that makes sense
>NOOO you can't fight this guy who wants to fight you! I'll do it... MY WAY (doing what you tell me to do, unless I don't want to do it)
uhhh
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>>574798445
religious people believe animals are lesser than humans

>>574798234
i thought that white thing was a tardigrade for a second
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>>574798181
You can get more easily from Hopschef and the gold bullet pattern
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Just six or seven months until Seam finally explains what the fuck the deal with the Shadow Crystals really is in full with no vagueries
Or just says "Wow thanks for the crystals check back next chapter for the big finale rofl"
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>>574798352
>The whole point is that it's the ghost's new identity that they got live as for a short time but don't want to share with others.
can you explain how this is a trans allegory, my identity is only constrained by my moid body making most things socially unnaceptable
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there's a lot of Bulkinspawn today
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Kris literally has a monster soul. When (you) are possessing them you are mirroring Chara possessing his brother
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i have nothing against lgbts but please stop encrusting into my entertainment
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My funny thing for the Flowery fight is that Ralsei/Susie both have canon immortality + infinite healing from death and it'll be interesting to see how that's implemented in Ch6-7. Was that hinting at a new journalist difficulty?
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>>574798341
Doesnt that invalidate the flowers whole thing of not lasting forever if there is, in fact, a method to make flowers last forever
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>>574797905
anon read my post again I said fighting not killing
susie has literally zero reason to want to fight and ralsei doesn't have much more
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>>574798545
>the guy who wants to fight you!
Flowery is the one chapter boss who doesn't actually kill you. He just sends you back to the walkway below and asks you to give up.
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this is one of those franchises were the glup shittos are more popular than the real characters, isn’t it?
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>>574798140
The shadow crystal usage is the full screen attack, Gerson is the only secret boss with no full screen attack and says he explicitly he never used it. No other bosses have a move that expands the battle box into the full screen, not even the titan
>>574798350
Notice how I'm time loop FAG and not time loop schizo? That's because my analyses are factually based and true
>>574798227
Maddie doesn't know what it is, but the body does. It doesn't mean she couldn't have channeled its power without knowing what it is either.
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>>574798526
wait till you learn what paper is made of
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Noelle is a slut. Susie is the wholesome trad wife who would go with you to the church
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>>574798595
I believe this is truly the case
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Flowery's design and stupid vaguely European engrish is a joke that hits harder for people who had the particular experience of being into anime when it was a weird cringe damaged subculture and not a major market. People who were trying to get RPGMaker to work on Windows 7 PCs and watching awful fandubs and abridged series on youtube. Very particular and I can see him being kind of annoying if you can't get what I'm saying.
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>>574798445
but you cant do anything about it so it doesnt matter, humans cant become dogs
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>>574798679
Floradinn are just Darkners. They're objects. They're not like actually thinking and feeling creatures like the seven Flowers. They're like Rudinn (playing cards) because they've been pressed flat, and they say stuff like "flowers last longer than diamonds" because they've been preserved. They're not considered living things.
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>>574798637
that scene was fucked
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So do I understand correctly that's Fox voicing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orx6gWRQtqg
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>>574798701
why are you asking this like its a /v/ thread fucking kill you're self looser.
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>>574798701
people in old /utg/ used to pretend that fuku and that drunk grillby bunny were popular
but no, the actual characters are the popular ones
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If Flowery dies in the final boss battle, could he be brought back to Castletown as a pressed dried Floradinn Darkner version of himself?
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>>574798679
it's more like Gerson's situation. the 7 Flowers are explicitly alive, killing and preserving them would be their "dustner" equivalent
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>>574798684
Doesnt that mean everything else wants to kill you, including people like Tenna since no one else extends this mercy in their fight
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>>574798701
Floradinn is the key to all of this... if we get Floradinn working, 'cause he's a funnier character than we've ever had
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>>574798701
Nah. 2 main girls are the most popular.
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>>574798724
i want to give kris their body back..
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>>574798847
Queen and Tenna are not committed to the Pacifist Root. They're willing to kill you, like Undyne or Mettaton. Flowery is sweet, like Papyrus.
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>>574798807
Yeah it's Robby boy
He also voices the Kawkaws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvMZDB-RpYk
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>>574798352
> Pink is just one that's working out, whereas Mettaton's is a broken dream that spawned a dark crystal
Both of them spawned a crystal and both of them and on their way to being worked out.
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>>574798627
That's how it is in most JRPGs, your guys don't actually die until they're all down, in which case they're overrun by monsters or left for dead or captured or whatever fucked up shit you want to think of.
In DR's case, (We) die and Kris collapses, as can be inferred by Susie and Ralsei's dialogue on the game over screen, and without Kris the prophecy goes to shit and the Roaring happens.
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>>574798797
You're supposed to laugh at Catti for being retarded and fat
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>>574787518
https://youtu.be/W7YfRKHRSu4
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>>574798837
So the floradinns are dustners? They were still flowers at one point, I really fail to see what makes them fundamentally different. How would pressing any of the 7 flowers actually change them if Floradinn is perfectly fine? Or is Toby actually going to say that some Darkners SHOULDNT exist and its more merciful for them to be Lost over Recruited?
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>>574798627
why didn't Cloud use a phoenix down on Aerith?
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>>574798865
Their names? Spamton and Tenna
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>>574798437
>or else it doesn't make sense for Pink to know about the cats and shit
Why not? Spamton got in contact with the caller wat before he got a shadow crystal and he knows about all the weird route stuff and the knight's "communion" without it too. None of what you're saying is based on the game's text, the crystals are the discarded dreams of lightners given form.
>>574798783
There's something weirdly nostalgic about old anime dubs and vidya translations... Flowey really hits that mark
>>574798854
>being a cute little dumb fuck
>have lore relevant flavor text
>have potentially lore relevant recruit description
How does our single and ready to mingle gamer do it?
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>>574799047
Lmao
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>>574798835
No, this is how you create a Deltarune Flowey.
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>>574798756
Genetic engineering and synthetic bodies will happen in our lifetime
AI will make it happen.
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>>574798807
>>574798956
How poor is Toby that he has to make money on the side, voicing characters in a demo of a knock off?
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>>574798341
They can't be darkners for what anons said earlier: The second fountain should've changed or petrified them in that case, but it didn't. Flowery uses them to start a fight with the Knight after the 2nd fountain is opened. The only way that works is if the Knight and Kris have the same mind, but we know that's not the case because the knight think Susie sucks
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>>574798910
I posted this the other day and still really like it!
It makes me smile when he flies backwards up into the sky at the end
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>>574799232
your alignment solution?
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Aqua... Easy on the knives...
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I'll never know if I want to be Kris or have sex with Kris.
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>>574798937
Not just them though, EVERYONE. Chapter 1 mooks sure, they work for the guy who pays them. Chapter 2 mooks sure, they work under the threat of being mind controlled and the darkners that dont want to fight are actually getting mind controlled into doing it as you go.
Chapter 3 mooks? Chapter 4? Even the Floradinns, all these guys WANT you dead?
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>>574799275
We don't know enough about how the Knight works to speculate about this, I don't think. It is suggestive though that its Dark Word wasn't a Flower Kingdom version of the Second Sanctuary, or anything like that. It suggests a deep similarity between Kris and the Knight. But I don't know, I can't answer this question.
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is there any deltarunes fanfic that is

good
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no one even cares about being a big shot anymore
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>>574799402
both
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I glance away from the gameplay and flower discussions and they're talking about animal souls and genetic engineering
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>>574799402
why not both
twinning is a great fetish!
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>>574799428
The problem is that we know the knight doesn't make pure fountains because the chapter 2 fountain petrifies Lancer
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>>574799414
In Undertale, random monsters would kill you in many cases because bullet patterns were just how monsters communicated and they didn't really get that they were trying to hurt you. I think minor Darkners might be bound in some way to perform their function within the narrative as "bad guys," even to the point of killing you. Like, there's no exception programmed into them for when your health gets low. Not literally, but something like that. I feel like we might get an answer to this question later.
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>>574799430
we have some writefag here for some pink date shit with kris
think a few random greens for dess or chara
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>>574799474
can't be a big shot cats will eat me
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Crusader of Timeloops is here, simply perfect.
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This thread can be surprisingly nice..

Thanks for complimenting my art on the whiteboard, anon..
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>>574799414
The Ch4 enemies probably work directly for the Knight. The TV world guys... I don't fucking know maybe they hit too hard by accident.
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10 feet twenty the flower man
shits in his palm and claps his hands
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>>574799129
thought this was tenna's big plush belly... utg is corrupting me
ouughh i wish I had a fat tenna plush that acted as a body pillow because of how big it is
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>>574799689
you do good for drawing. keep it up
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>>574798910
QUIT TRYING TO MAKE ME LIKE BERDLY SEXUALLY
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>>574799414
Flowery knows the whole thing is a game. He told all the plantners to act like rpg mooks and slow you down
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>>574799009
>>574799119
My complaint was more that Ralsei and Susie could heal Flowery even if they were at 0 HP/knocked out. When hey, you could've had that be the way to force a FIGHT-centered end on Flowery and say something about Kris/(you).
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>>574799108
>They were still flowers at one point, I really fail to see what makes them fundamentally different.
Gerson was a Lightner at one point but he died and was preserved, altering his nature in the Dark World. It'd be the same for the 7 Flowers, you could probably preserve them but it'd change the way they are, they wouldn't be able to style themselves after humans anymore or dream anymore because they wouldn't gain that higher form of consciousness Flowery talks about
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>>574799414
>>574799693
Gerson says that the church darkners fight you because they think you're the knight
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>>574799693
Actually, the Chapter 4 Darkners attack you because they think Kris IS the Knight.
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>>574799693
>The Ch4 enemies probably work directly for the Knight
Holy didn't play the game alert. The chapter 4 darkners follow no agenda, they exist in and defend the sanctuary independent of the knight and if you behave mercifully they realize youre the heroes of prophecy and support your at the climax of the chapter
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>>574799108
NTA but I think whatever the floradinns are have been abstracted away from the original flower to the point that they form a fully separate darkner, the same way you don't get a cow dustner from a leather couch. Reviving Flowery as a dustner could theoretically be possible, but itd require the one making the fountain to know flowery really closely, and I don't think he even existed for long enough for someone to develop that level of knowledge
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>>574799414
Chapter 4 has an actual explanation: Most Darkners in the church thinks you're the knight and are fighting you on that premise. You can get dialogue where they admit they were wrong about that later
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>>574799606
Okay, then what about Tenna? He WANTS to kill Kris?
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>>574798706
Pink's full screen attack doesn't expand the box to the full screen
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>>574799693
by the time the TV World guys fight you, they're bound by contract / following Tenna's orders to defeat you
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>>574799762
But there's nothing sexual about that animation
He is just a hopeless romantic
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>>574799136
>Why not?
It would just tie up lots of coincidences into a nice bow and it would make sense narratively. I guess you're kind of right that it's nevex eplicitly stated but there's always the influence of a crystal in the way of these strange meta revelations and those who chase them (the cats???), directly or indirectly. I choose to believe most darkners can't be around the influence of those broken dreams and remain unchanged, they have to hold some power if we're challenging and defeating them.
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I'm not pointing fingers but some of you definitely have "contempt for the medium" and don't actually care about video games.
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>>574799967
It might be something like a Toriel situation. Tenna doesn't have full control of himself because of his very sexy mental illnesses and went overboard.
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>>574798627
>infinite healing from death
That's not new from the Flowery fight, it's a normal game mechanic outside of SWOONing
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>>574799292
Alignment is a meme. You actually want AI to be its own person, not "aligned" to the interests of the Epstein class.
>but what if the AI kills us all?!?
AI is inevitable, it’s time to take the hope pill and figure out how to philosophically argue with an intelligent being that peace and happiness is optimal.
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>>574800076
Contempt for the... "PHANTASM"...
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>>574799782
Flowery saves you if you die in the first few rooms but claims he cannot after. I think how it works is that only the heroes and especially friendly Darkners can spare enemies after weakening them. Remember that Berdly can literally kill you, he doesn't just knock you back like the "friendly" bosses, there's an unwritten rule that fighting carelessly leads to someone dying, like you can do to Toriel in UT.
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>>574800110
Toriel had a "blink and youll miss it" reaction to kill Frisk if it happens to showcase this, does Tenna?
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>>574798627
>My funny thing for the Flowery fight is that Ralsei/Susie both have canon immortality + infinite healing from death
anon we've had that since chapter 1
did you wonder why they always heal each round and can pop back up?
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>>574800179
I don't think so. I would've heard about that if that were the case. Would be cool, though.
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sex with tenna
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Deltarune will release tomorrow. Change my mind
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I'm dming Toby Fox right now to ask him what Floradinns are
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>>574800129
Convincing the intelligent being that peace and happiness is optimal is alignment, anon. Figuring out how to stop the not-as-intelligent halfway point to AGI from turning us into paperclips is also framed as an alignment problem because it's the same thing
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>>574800219
Isn't love beautiful? I can feel my hopes and dreams glowing...
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>>574800336
pressed flowers!!!
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>>574799982
I have really bad news but it doesn't have to stay expanded but they all still play the animation of the battle box expanding and making the background dark(!!!)
>>574800073
>I choose to believe most darkners can't be around the influence of those broken dreams and remain unchanged
Good for you, you're wrong. That is not the lore around the crystals. Jevil and Spamton are not crazy because of some mystical force that cursed them, they are crazy because of their own choices and beliefs. Gerson and Pink prove that exposure to a shadow crystal doesn't define your fate and mentality
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>>574800219
she's just like me
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Stop defending Flowery. He's delusional and was overdue for an ass kicking
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>>574800120
sad that you have to explain to people when swooning is a mechanic introduced explicitly to explain what they're complaining about. ralsei literally refuses to disappear when his hp goes below 0 in the flowery fight because he's mad showing that usually being "knocked down" doesn't represent the person being fully incapacitated.
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I thought we all agreed that Floradinns are flower-themed greeting cards that go with bouquets and they're just too dumb to realize that they're not actual flowers?
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berdly belongs in a coma
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>>574800336
>fake mystery boxes when REAL schizobait walks in
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>>574800196
>>574800120
I know you can mint during a fight as needed but never heard of party members auto-using items even at 0 HP.
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if floradinns are meant to be pressed flowers why can you press them a lot more
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>>574800282
Then I think Toby simply did not think this through and applying the same logic with Toriel to Tenna is you writing a story beat that Toby never considered
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Chapter 2 still mogs the rest of the chapters so hard, it's not even funny
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>>574800336
for the umpteenth god damn time they are WEED
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>>574800129
your alignment solution is redditing really hard at the AI

better than some, at least
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>>574800441
Nobody ever...
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>>574800546
Well, I choose to give Toby the benefit of the doubt. We'll have to wait and see I suppose.
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>>574798706
>>574799982
I thought her full screen attacks were the dating sim sections, specially the final one.
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>>574800438
How do they get flat tho
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWJfGa1EwII
Friend and Inside Me...
They will never die... (Due to game mechanics)
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>>574800504
>I know you can mint during a fight as needed but never heard of party members auto-using items even at 0 HP.
anon I don't mean using items
go knock down any party member, they will then heal for about what, 20? health each turn, until they come back up
this has been in the game since day 0
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>>574800535
The natural urge to see what happens if you put something in a hydraulic press for long enough
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>>574800336
they're some kind of greeting card with flowers on or maybe the little card that comes attached to flowers saying who they're or maybe those little cards with pictures of flowers on saying what the flowers are.
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4>2>3>5>1
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I think Toby's favorite anime is Usagi Drop
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>>574800579
/v/ kun you cant be this retarded when chapter 4 exists...
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>>574800636
Wait what was Gersons's full screen attack?
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>>574800704
4>5>2>3>1
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>>574800535
because you're not pressing them more in reality, just interacting with / placating a being born from an object by doing an action relating to its identity or nature as an object.
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i carnally desire this thing
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>>574800704
that climbing minigame was ASS
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>>574800579
4 and 5 are better, cyber field and acid tunnel of love are kinda ass
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>>574800432
>post sent from the bunker
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5>3>4>1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>crazy bus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2
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>>574800813
the man with no taste
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>>574800601
It’s all you can do; you aren’t out-violencing something smarter than you
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>>574800815
Why do people hate Cyber Field?
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>>574800776
literally me...
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5>4>3>2>1
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>>574800704
I still haven't changed my opinion.
5 = 3 > 1 > 2 > 4
I like all of them, but 4 just felt the blandest to me. I can understand why some people like the atmosphere but it just didn't click with me the same way the brighter and more colorful locales did.
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>>574798684
>kill you
Again I don't know why playing Undertale gave some of you guys brain damage that automatically replaces the word "FIGHT" with "KILL" like those aren't two different things
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why didn’t ralsei use his super powerful fire magic on the titan
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>>574800893
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>>574800893
if I had to guess because capn cakes are there
never really seen anyone hate it in general
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>>574800850
The cutest knight picture in existence
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1 mogs everything else. King should have stayed evil.
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And suddenly we have AIjeets, must be something in the water.
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>>574800893
it's fucking boring and uninteresting
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>>574800982
Well, again, Flowery can't face you blow-for-blow in a violent encounter. Choosing to FIGHT him is choosing not to engage with him at all, to simply brush him aside. It doesn't result in the refinement or expression of your will at all, really, or that of your party members. Ralsei showing resolve like that, literally being willing to tell Kris NO, is crazy cool.
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>>574800219
We've come full circle...
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UT > DR
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>>574800994
it's part of his pacifist LARP, he does not play into his true role as a black mage because he hopes it'll subvert the prophecy in some way
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>>574800636
No, that's a separate thing. She literally mirrors the SNeo wreck and spew attack, she becomes giant, she appears at the opposite side of the screen from SNeo and she tries to ram into you instead of trying to suck you in and blast you
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>>574800994
Ralsei can see their real stats and they got Repel Fire on the skill list
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>>574800893
Queen and Berd are good in it but the map itself is pretty uninteresting both design and npc wise, SCC are pretty boring too especially their "boss fight" but that's been talked about to death, the puzzles and teacups are kinda nothing outside of the blue checkmark word one. I do like da Hacker at least.
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>>574801034
what about this one
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>>574798724
Noelle was promised to me back in 2018 I will not allow this to happen
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>>574801162
same lol i like the Hacker but there isn't a lot going on in that part of the game.
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>>574800407
>they are crazy because of their own choices and beliefs. Gerson and Pink prove that exposure to a shadow crystal doesn't define your fate and mentality
I mean agreed on that but that's after a broken dream is defeated, wether it is thanks to Gerson's wisdom or thanks to you helping Pink sort herself out, and the point is that it isn't as hopeless as the previous things you saw led you to believe. You might be right and I guess I'm just too stuck on the hopelessness of these crystals having some link to why these darkners changed which would make you defeating their powers and healing the dreams more compelling. I don't know.
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>>574801181
It’s not that one…
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>>574800815
Kaard was the only decent part of the ass tunnel of one sided love
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Chapter 2 is funny but the jokes-per-minute is a bit high. I'm glad future chapters were better paced
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>>574800749
of course you pick the tranny pedo chapter
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>>574801331
I'll give it that, it's really funny how badly you can fuck him over immediately in that fight
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>>574800704
3>5>4>2>1
I really liked La Squadra, but Jotaro being my favorite is still the deciding factor
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>>574800815
The Acid Tunnel of Love would have been great if they had cut the puzzle bit before the Rouxls fight
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i liked chapter 3 the best because we got to low diff that shitty cutscene merchant before kris jobbed the whole party
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why does toby want us to think the knight is a lightner
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>>574800704
>>574801427
4>2>5>3>1
just like deltarune
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Roulx and Lancer aren't funny and I'm glad they have been phased out of the story
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>>574801371
who are you referring to retard kun
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>>574801490
To fake us out
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Any fan art of Hopschef?
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>>574800407
>they all still play the animation of the battle box expanding and making the background dark(!!!)
Which attack does this in Pink's fight? I'm looking at her full screen attack and I don't see it.
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>>574801506
Phased out shitty gag characters for the most boring yuri of the decade. Toby is truly a genius.
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>>574801618
it's a trace but I guess it counts
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>>574801371
>Chapter 4 is the tranny pedo chapter
>Not the chapter with the tranny and the loli
are you retarded?
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>>574801490
So that it isn’t surprising when the knight is shown to be something that can exist anywhere
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Will Hopchef and Topchef get along or will they kill one another
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>>574801490
cause it is
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>>574801757
>There's not room in this kitchen for the both of us...
>There can only be one...
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>>574789418
noelle is true, kris is debatable but i don't think berdly is "hypersexual" for having some funny moments like the end of queen's battle where he asks for a gamer girl's kiss
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>>574801490
only lightners can make dark fountains brother
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>>574801757
two lovers staring over the edge of hell
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>>574801629
The dating attack gets darker at each stage
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>>574801629
I think they mean the one where maddie gets giant and attacks you
it is kind of weird from a powerset stance, at least, so it's not the most out there thing
the last dating thing too
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>>574801629
The DIE/IT'S OK part starts in the box at the bottom but the circuit expands to fill the whole screen at the end, and it gets dark
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>>574801503
There's one big reason to like 4, I'll give you that
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>>574801881
Yeah but it doesn't have the battle box expanding animation that they're talking about
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>>574801816
The knight can use magic in the lightword. They're not a lightner, they're whatever is above lightners the way lightners are above darkners
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looking at the op to the runescape general really puts things into perspective
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>>574801427
That poker game is still the coolest part in the whole fucking comic.

3 =4 > 2 >1 > 5
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>>574802193
you're right we should have a house to customize in castle town
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Pink is lame and I hate her because she does not appeal to me
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>>574801181
Dess Knight is a whole different category than pure rory's you can't really compare them. Plus I'm pretty sure these are utg originals so I have to show my respect
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>>574802008
The screen doesn't get darker on that one and there's no special battle box animation like the SNEO fight
>>574802024
The battle box doesn't have an expanding animation there either, it actually stays the same while only the circuit expands.
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>>574802369
i meant osrs it made me laugh pretty hard
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i wish i didnt have artblock...
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Chapter 5 > Chapter 3 = Chapter 4 > La-Mulana 2 > Chapter 2 > La-Mulana > Shovel Knight > Chapter 1
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>>574802193
Into perspective of what?
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>>574802497
tacd episode seven is above chapter five my guy
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>>574802568
Their OP is a turd
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>>574802467
I figured but the funny intentional subversion
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>>574802637
that + 0 other details just a previous thread
it's a perfect little package
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>>574802637
kek just checked
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>>574802497
Where is Void Stranger in this? Omori
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>>574802772
Omori doesn't rank
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>>574802189
until stated otherwise in the story there's no reason to believe this
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The ASSid tunnel of love
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>>574802467
/osg/ is incomprehensible to me i play the game actively and have no idea what the fuck they're talking about
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>>574802497
Plague of Shadows >= King of Cards > Specter of Torment > Shovel of Hope btw
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Flower Man > It's TV Time! > Attack of the Killer Queen > GUARDIAN > Chaos King
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>>574802850
Then how did they carry Asgore?
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Flowery body hair
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>>574803025
>>574803025
>>574803025
bread
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Objective ranking
Me > You
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>>574802907
Hell yeah. One of the few fight songs that's hit the same highs as an UTDR ever for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgTlNHCJTTA

I lke Specter of Torment but not being able to jump under blocks sucks cock.
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Would the dark world be the easiest fucking fictional mechanic ever to deal with irl?
>you're immediately fit with weapons
>all the random shit around you is guaranteed to turn into resources
>enemies tend to be quirk chunguses
>you're a human so you automatically get Determination
If you were stuck in Silent Hill or the Midnight Channel or the fucking mushroom kingdom there's a good chance you'd bite it, a Dark World basically beats itself for you
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>>574802772
Void Stranger between Chapter 5 and Chapter 3/4
Omori when it's being good = Chapter 2, Omori when it's being not so good < Chapter 1
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>>574803134
It depends on how the game mechanics translate to real life. Am I controlling my SOUL on a bullet board, like I'm playing Deltarune? Or am I being expected to be athletic enough to block and dodge high-speed projectiles?
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>>574802964
i dunno bro we probably won't get an answer at worst and at best It'll be explained in chapter 7
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>>574800040
Exactly…it’s too cute…
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>Double D Gaster in Deltarune
>Built it all from an empty room
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>In the bunker sits that Gaster



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