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Are you all mentally ready for when this happens again?
rape
>>574882434Show you muff damnit!
What if the twisted sword is just an elaborate ruse and it's just a sword with really good stats that still makes enemies flee at 0 HP?
>>574882471Screencaps like this give me second hand embarrassment
>>574882537what if the twisted sword goes up your butt
sex with tenna
>secret boss of chapter 5 is a cat>this cat character mentions "gel pens," which are connected to the catpetterz rpg cartridge under asriel's bed which belongs to "catti & catty">this cat character also gives us information about image_friend, a pack of hunting cats>this implies that all of these cats are connected in some way>we've spent the whole game collecting shadowcrystals, crystals which are shadows to be "purified by the cat", finishing our quest just as we get all this cat lore>catti becomes extremely jealous of susie's relationship with noelle during the festival and her general disapproval has been a consistent theme in every chapter so farCAN YOU FEEL ITTHE SETUPCAN YOU FEEL THE CATTI RELEVANCEIT IS BREWINGCAT CHAPTER IS COMINGCATTENHEIMER DARK WORLDWHY WOULD SHE HAVE A TALKSPRITE IF SHE'S NOT GOING TO BE IMPORTANT?CATTI IS BOSS 6>jevil foreshadows queen>spamton foreshadows tenna>gerson foreshadows flower king>pink foreshadows friend and cattenheimer dark worldIT'S SO OBVIOUS>but why wouldn't it be the holiday manor or hospitalNo reason to think it would be either of these places but vague vibes. Meanwhile, we've got FIVE CONTINUOUS CHAPTERS of cat lore that needs explaining before the grand finale. Cat lore that intersects with major lore elements like the ShadowCrystals and IMAGE_FRIEND>but what about the shelter code in noelle's housewe already know where that is, the code we need to be worried about before chapter 7 is the delta rune, the nature of which remains a mystery>but how would this even happen why would we go to catti's house why would we make a dark fountain thereHere is a likely scenario.>toriel leaves to get asriel>you can't get into noelle's house because of what's going on with rudyONLY ONE PLACE LEFT TO GO NEIGHBOR-BEIGHBORCATTI CHAPTERCATTENHEIMER DARK WORLD>catti is driven by her broken heart and hatred for susie to do something drasticI CAN SEE IT IN MY MIND'S EYE CLEAR AS DAYCATTIISIMPORTANT
>>574882471This will 100% happen no matter what because every chapter release we get a bunch of tourists who speedread and complain about everything and then 8 hours later all the real fans will play it and we'll start seeing the good faith opinions.
this would be.... a good death
>>574882632Yikes, wall of text ritualposts for a gagshitter?
>>574882632shut up dude
only character with 3 unique fights award
ralsei's milfy eyes…
>>574882587you hate fun
>>574882737*4Glad dummy also exists
>>574882707MAKE ME
>>574882434
>>574874634I know what you meant but I decided differently>>574874642>>574874701>>574874720>>574874721>>574874749>>574874947
>>574882632do you actually want catti to be more relevant than she is?are you not worried about what toby would do to her character if she's given any more screen time?do you not hope she simply stays far in the background so she doesn't get character assassinated even further?
>>574882737Second* >Flowey >Omega Flowey>Asriel Dreemurr
When are we going to ACTUALLY meet gaster?
>>574882737Mew Mew is that case of a character who is disproportionately loved by the creator more than the audience
>>574882780>Kris, as (YOU) know, you are facing the WRONG direction. Look at me when I'm talking to you.
>>574882471>the amount of questions answered: 0uh oh...
>>574882471I'm not gonna touch /utg/ for at least a day after the last chapter comes out because the first 24 hours will be nothing but whining regardless of what happens. The end of the game could be fave bursting out of your computer screen to suck your dick in real life and people would still take issue with it.
>>574882897Kris will find him in a Snickers bar
>>574882649you've all said this and i still haven't changed my opinions on chapter 5CHADery and a couple of great tracks aside, it's still a big fat nothingburger, and i really hope toby decides to lengthen the game past 7 chapters because i do not want a chapter full of loredumps and another one full of actually serious fights, that would make 1/7 of the game actually stand up for what it was hyped
>>574882842It's not about what I want. It's about the FACTS. And they're ALL coming up CATTI.
last thread made me coom to pawpad footjobs *cries*
>>574882839lmao very cute+100 Ralsei Score
>>574882471I highly doubt he's gonna pull a homestuck. at worst the ending will be underwhelming but not unresolved.
>>574882891Undyne also counts
>>574882632Are you also the Susie is a Darkner guy
>>574882737Undyne could NEVER
Chapter 6 ends with the player RESETting the worlds to when the first fountain was opened and being separated from Kris for a(nother) chance at saving Dess in a new timeline.When chapter 7 drops a new choice is added where the player can press the cancel button to REFUSE which means refusing the prophecy but also re fusing with Kris’ soul to continue on in the “doomed” timeline in chapter 7 which contains the shelter dark world that was never part of the prophecy.
>>574883010You act like ch6-7 won't be 8+ hours long. Ch4 was the halfway point that means 5-7 is supposed to make up 50% of the total playtime.
is the main route supposed to be generic RPG adventure while the weirdroute is the real game?
>>574882839It's like an avant-garde Ralsei comic
>>574883153>Billie Jean.mp3
>>574883095No. I would never believe anything so ridiculous.
>>574882891>FloweryThat ain't a real fight and you know it
>>574882891Flowey's first fight barely counts as a fight, but it's okay because the Ralsei fight will basically be a third Flowey/Asriel fight.
suicides might be less common if people were not motivated to keep such thoughts to themselves under threat of imprisonment and not reveal anything until it's too late
>>574883194No, weird route is making Noelle strong enough to handle having part of Kris’ soul and by extension the player implanted into her so we can have her act as the angel in the prophecy, getting banished from Hometown rather than the game as a whole.
>>574883303SHIT NO I MEANT TO WRITE-
>>574883303Flowery is one of the best fights in deltarune idk what youre about
Real question: Would you guys be ok with Ralsei being Trans or doing magic shit to make themselves a girl? Would you kill Toby?
>>574883441Oddly cute
Are the characters aware of being in a game?
>>574883494i couldn't care less
>>574883318Could say the same about Glad Dummy
>>574883494As long as Ralsei shows some fucking agency and makes it clear that's his wish and not something Flowery said because of a soda, I'll live. The way it's been handled in Ch5 was mostly really abysmal.
>>574883494I assume Toby wouldn't write it in a retarded way so I'd be fine with it, but it's unlikely to happen regardless
>>574883494I'd stil love Ralsei but he's much better as a dude imoHotter and cuter that way
>>574883494no, yes
>>574883494I will kill you, Toby.
>>574883494No I hate girls this game has way too many girls alreadyI'd probably make some mod that re-patches Ralsei's normal pronouns in the game, play it, and never interact with the fandom ever again
>>574883494pointless panderingi would not like it
>>574883574glad dummy isnt counted among the 3 it would be a 4th
>>574883494I would not care but id still kill toby
If flowers are truly soulless and can't feel love then why the fuck would any of the flowers give a fuck about Asgore?Flowey sure as hell didn't. Is he just wrong about his own condition?
Ralsei has agency, it's just that the ideas he believes in are dogshits
>>574883703you're mixing up your undertale and deltarune lore, my friend
if you remove the s from snickers you get... oh no... oh no no no no no..
>>574883193chapters 1-4 are already pretty short so i don't have good expectatives
>>574882361Hooman!
Well Flowery by all means is Flowey eveb if not in the flesh he is supposed to be the incarnation of Flowey in dT and they're not subtle about it so
>>574883604Subtly alluring creature
>>574883815heh hehsnicker
"Eveb"?
>>574883494I hate Ralsei right now, and I'll probably hate him or her or whatever the fuck unless we get the whole deal on what Ralsei is
Hold my FlowerySoda, I'm gonna first try the Pink fight
>>574883589>wouldn't write it in a retarded How could Ralsei coming out as trans in Chapters 6 and 7 (the moment the story is supposed to escalate and reveal 20 different mysteries and solve plot threads) possibly happen in a way it's not out of place and distracting from more important matters
I never liked Ralsei
>>574883852ghost dance...
They finally added the golden Tenna statue to castletown. I hope that one anon is happy.
Krih
>>574883860please refrain from posting until you're over 18, thank you
>>574883790but most lore stuff like monsters turning into dust when they die still carries over.you cant just be like>oh just ignore it dudewhen the game itself as described by the creator as 'for people who played undertale.'
>>574883494i would be deeply disappointed. if deltarune came out all at once then i wouldn't care too much if the cute femboy was actually a nasty tranny but to bait me in for a decade is insane
I always liked Ralsei
>>574883912but if you remove both s's...
>>574883703Soullessness isn't the same as Undertale since Kris obviously still cares about other people without the soul
>>574884021Krihture
>>574883494i'd be pretty bothered because i think transfem ralsei is a lot less resonant than genderfluid ralsei or queer male ralsei for like, idk, a day, before i move on from it and continue enjoying myself
>>574883991I don't want it anymore when it's full of Pippins cum
I think Noelle is more of a willing participant in the weird route than anyone gives her credit for. Of course she didn’t want to hurt her friend, but we didn’t mind break her. Everyone here is broken, we just revealed what was below the surface.
I RAPED KRIS!
>>574882737mew mew exists to get shown up by her cousin, darling
Why does Toby love ghosts and catgirls so much? Why does he make them so absolutely, centrally important to the lore and narrative of this series?
>>574883604i love this freak so much
>>574883975That's why I think it's unlikely, but if Toby really wanted to do it, I'm sure he could figure out a way to fit it in there
>>574884240There's no one in this world who dislikes cat girls or maids
>>574884191I like the idea that Noelle has the same kind of intrusive thoughts that Kris has, the difference is that while (You) pick Kris' brain, they pick Noelle's. I'm convinced they went through something really traumatic together, which is what fucked them up and made them bring out the worst in each other.
>>574883494i dont really care about ralsei either way so it won't ruin anything, but this would objectively make the fandom unusable in every way, so i'd be sad
what the fuck is a muse dash and why was it important enough to be specified in the last op
>>574884191there was a "wow cool robot" meme with noelle that i saw get posted here a couple days after chapter 5 dropped and i'm still kicking myself in the butt for not saving it because it had the best writeup on noelle's character i've ever seen in it
Toby Fox was a coward for not making Kris or Ralsei strip for the hot bath
BIG JARONA
>>574884421irrelevant time wasting toby crossover with lust provoking imagery
>>574882818be quiet thread shitter
>>574883991I'm so happy that I've decided to swear off complaining about the insufficient amount of minigames in Castle Town until I arbitrarily decide to do it again
i wonder how hard toby is kicking himself for completely missing the significance of "pink and blue," knowing that the fandom will be stuck in this shitfit for at least a year and will probably still be grumbling about it after chapter 6assuming that was a mistake on his part, that is
>>574884545true
>>574883494my transphobia will increase i think. ralsei isnt my favorite but i do have friends that love him a lot, seems fucked up to take what he means to them away
character toby wants me to get turned on by?
FLOWER MANFLOWER MANTSUCHI NO OKU ENE WO HARISEKAI WO MIRUSORA NITAKAKU SOSOGUHIKARI ABITEHIBI WA TSUDZUITE YUKUFLOWERS
>>574884421Muse Dash is a popular mobile/console rhythm game.Its rare for Undertale/Deltarune to have official crossovers.
>>574884741That jiggle is too harsh and needs more frames for smooveness.
>>574884545It would be funny if only one of them got naked
>>574884817rouxls
>>574884791Do you think toby and friend are that stupid to not know what 2/3 of the trans flag is like? I bet money temmie had drawn pride flags at some point.
>>574884791I wonder how hard toby is punching his balls over missing the significance of Ralsei saying "I REALLY WANT TO TRY BEING A PRINCESS", knowing the fandom they might think it's some troon shit but we all know toby is neutral on these topics
I just wanna say that /utg/ at its best really heals all the damage done to my sanity by the other parts of the fandom, and I appreciate you guys being here.
>>574884817Tenna
>>574884191I think one of the points of the weird route is exploring the nature of the op party member that we overlevel. All the fault being of the leader(us) of the party is wrong.
im trans and pregnant
>>574884791It's not the intention but he doesn't care because it creates free fandom engagement. He seldom ever cares about fans making retarded headcanons about his characters unless it's a couple exceptions like calling Toriel a bad person
Cons of twisted route>too much resource drain for Toby and crew>might be too similar to genocidePros of twisted route>we finally get to punish Kris for hiding stuff from us, even without hurting noelle (aborted weird route)>equivalent of finally reaching level 16 on kayle against Olaf top in league of legends, where roles finally swap and we peel away all of Toby's smart-ass meta deconstruction
>>574884470Please tag me if you find it. I think the seemingly contradictory nature of the weird route is confusing for people and it does have a lot of the soul pushing Noelle beyond her comfort level, but there is something within her that craves the scare. Whatever happened to Dess and the way Carol raised her definitely has a tinge of that trauma danger seeking (and power seeking, as someone who feels powerless). We have confirmation about why she likes Susie and liking to be scared, but also really feeling that scare. This makes the contrasting desires of wanting things to be “normal” and her almost suicidal desire for change make sense. These feelings can both exist as they are clearly revealed in the weird route. A lot of people discount the times she says she wants this and she feels more powerful than ever before as being the trance taking over her will. But when you abort it, she laments that nothing changed, despite finding comfort in it simultaneously. Motivations of the player/soul aside, I think these are ALL her true feelings. Rambling, so I hope that makes sense.
>>574885036too bad night /utg/ is over/utg/ at its best is hours away now.
>>574884941the drinks are purple (susie's colors), yellow and green (light world kris' colors), and blue and pink (dark world kris' colors)it honestly doesn't seem likely, but i can almost believe toby was simply tunnel-visioned enough to not notice and the rest didn't point it out and possibly assumed it was intentional
The Kris as Edgeworth/Franziska thing has so many implications the more you think about it >both start off as directly antagonistic to the protagonist before eventually aligning their moral and professional goals with his and become truth seekers >both keep harsh exteriors that hide inner pain and trauma >neither ever truly spells out the solutions for the protagonist and seeks to challenge him intellectually when working with him>Edgeworth takes on the role of protagonist for Phoenix while he's sick in Trials and Tribulations>Edgeworth specifically has trauma related to a childhood event that involves a loved one's death>Edgeworth spends his career under the thumb of an adoptive father who orchestrated the death of the same loved one>Edgeworth's disappearance and supposed suicide after AA1 drives much of the emotional plot for Phoenix and Franziska>Edgeworth not being dead after all and being able to help coordinate the investigation with Phoenix to uncover a conspiracy involving a nameless assassin and a "fallen star" is central to the climax of Justice for All>the same case is also the only time ever Phoenix has represented a guilty client and the player needs to figure out how to get him convicted without getting Maya killed in captivity
>>574885074I wonder how harrowing must it feel to get accidentaly pregnant as a trans mansaid AFAB Kris
Do you regret making the weirdroute?
>>574885135Twisted route isn't gonna be a thing it will only be side-a (normal) and side-b (weird)
>>574885135Wouldn't Twisted route just be a neutral route but with extra steps?
>>574883852Got something you might enjoy.https://litter.catbox.moe/h284yg.png
>>574885240I think making blue and pink colored characters should be banned for 20 years
>>574885270I never play the evil route. Didn't in Undertale. Won't in Deltarune. My conscience is CLEAR.
>>574885135>twisted routefag>league of legendsfagplease pick only one mental illness to specialize in
I miss when blue and pibk were just the cotton candy aesthetic
You just know he loves eating ass on his knees
>>574882632Impressive cope
i hate afabs EXCEpt for afabs with male brains because theyre male which means theyre human and i really do mean male brain so no pooner shit i want a woman who loves violence and war and being a badass and all that shit
>>574885372It's more fun being "evil" in a game like New Vegas where about 90% of the entire population probably deserves what you are about to do or is in some way a mercy kill and the last 10% absolutely deserve it without question.
>>574885372blue and red are protagonist colours, blue and pink are girl protagonist colours
>>574884817netskie
dude darkners would fucking suck irljust imagine all the incriminating shit they would have on you
>>574885579UOHHHHH FOX COOKIE EROTIC
>>574884791No because the story is obviously going with "Ralsei doesn't have to be a boy just because the prophecy says so" and it's entirely in line with the other themes. Toby clearly doesn't care if low IQ chuds are triggered by the content of his game >>574884997>we all know toby is neutral on these topicsThis is my favorite chud self soothing phrase, I like to imagine you flapping your hands as you say it to calm yourself down>>574884813>seems fucked up to take what he means to them awayThis mentality is so gay and retarded. Representation isn't a 0 sum game and it's so transparent when people draw the line at "you can be a fruity faggot but do not ever think about being a troon"
>>574884470>>574885182this one?
>>574884791from what i’ve seen it’s the minority who are telling people it was a trans thing and people going omg that never ever EVER came to mind i wasn’t thinking of you trannies but we need more #transrep so let’s go xD
>>574885676you would be their god whom they worship though and serve
>>574885505Same
>>574885569Is Ralsei the kind of lewd boy that would wear sexy lingerie underneath his robes?
>>574885689>Toby clearly doesn't care if low IQ chuds are triggered by the content of his gameToby cares, the tranny ralsei plushies will not sell themselves to the gay furries.The ones who his riches depend on.
>Undertale OSTSoulful, unique, relistenable>Deltarune OSTSoulless, too tryhard, can only listen to it onceThe winner is clear.
>>574885696I hate that the general fan of the game is like this
>>574884997>"I REALLY WANT TO TRY BEING A PRINCESS"what’s weird about this is that >susie has called herself a king before>even in that exact scene ralsei says that prince and princess are exactly the same beyond presentation which invalidates the idea that him transing would relate to the prophecy at all trannies just cant read and its the most annoying thing ever
>>574885696you genuinely couldnt make me read this image even if it meant my mother gets sodomised right in front of me man its just too many words
>>574885797>"We'll upgrade your RAM if you snitch on your owner.">"Oh Ok Here's His Entire Browsing History (Including Everything He Deleted And Incognito Mode) LMAO Ok Bye"
>>574885696This kind of works, but I think it’s beyond just the power itself, I don’t buy the broke by the weird route thing, I think she already feels this way deep down sourced from all the aforementioned trauma pre-weird route. I think in all the positive responses she gives to weird route happenings is the same feelings amplified.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYVftJPcF0Y
>>574885241Susie being Gumshoe (effectively Edgeworth/Franziska's assistant) while Ralsei is Trucy/Maya (assistants to Apollo/Phoenix, and Phoenix's adopted daughter in Trucy's case) is also really interesting especially because no one has a defense attorney costume even though all the AA protagonists are defense attorneys outside of spinoffs. Presumably the player implicitly fills that role since it's the only one left and you ARE technically defending the Fun Gang when you use the trial ACT.
>>574885797You speak as if one of two things isn't more likely to happen:>1The anon's a favefag and as such sees the darkners way closer to equals because they already fell in love with one that's supposedly "Lesser" to him.>2The anon has such negative self esteem that they'd not accept the revence and just treat the darkners as equals instead.
>>574886016queen wouldnt do that to noelle
>>574886013it's not that many words you just want to see your mother sodomized
>>574886051i dont really care what some anon would do honestly, if he would throw the adventure of a lifetime away that's his perogative
>>574885689>Representation isn't a 0 sum gameIt is thoughIf Ralsei isn't a boy anymore, you took away male representation and added mtf representation in its place, done, gone
>>574885886>old thing good new thing badDeltarune OST still has good songs in it though I could agree on a whole Undertale OST is more digestible out of the context of the games. Death by Glamour is also the best song Toby has made so that's another point to UT
>>574885689and "if you act like a girl, you are a girl. do not resist." is better?
>>574882842Catti keeps bringing up that demon summoning so it damn well better prove important.
>>574884941you would think these people would use logic and go>hmmm. trans flag is 3 colors, which is barely more than 2. why wouldn’t toby add a stripe of white if it was definitely meant to be a trans thing, it would’ve been easybut they’re dumb
>>574886397The fact that she keeps bringing it up is proof that it's not important
Some of you guys (girls) MAD repping. I mean, why else would you feel SO personally implicated in a character we thought was a feminine man actually being a woman?
>>574886271>old thing good new thing bad
toby is good now
>>574884941Why is Noelle’s room trans flag instead of Christmas colors? Noelle MtF.
>>574885696This is a lot of words to say "Noelle is justified in being super fucked up despite her exceedingly wealthy upbringing because of her family's hardships" when most people are just going to see some variation of Heathers in her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAOxJv96VE8
>>574885689>rep isn't a 0 sum gameHow can it not be a 0 sum game? If Ralsei's hard-confirmed trans, than all the gay people that idolized him that weren't trans just lost their fruity role model.
>>574885689>"Ralsei doesn't have to be a boy just because the prophecy says so"didnt play the game award
>>574886051Well, they'd know I'd go to 4chan which is probably something I'd rather not have anyone knowing.
>>574883494Suddenly making him trans this late into the story is fucking dumb, so if Toby is really going there, he'd better give us a good reason. I've yet to hear a good one.
toby fox released a new game patch fixing a lot of real issues
>>574885843Ralsei doesn't wear underwearunless it's to show off to Kris
>>574886565I don't get it, what's the point?
>>574886484queers autism in-fightinggay furries vs tranny furries
Krusie feels more yurigem than susielle
>>574886046>Susie being Gumshoe (effectively Edgeworth/Franziska's assistant)This but also on a personality level it lines up eerily well. Gumshoe is a big huge guy who looks a little intimidating but he's basically a Great Dane given human form, down to being incredibly loyal to his friends and moral sensibilities. He also lives in incredibly modest means and eats like shit because of it >assistants to Apollo/Phoenix, and Phoenix's adopted daughter in Trucy's caseNotably both related to magic in some way, with Maya having actual magic powers as a spirit medium and Trucy being a stage magician with some uncanny talents. Both of them also have bright and cheery demeanors despite having pretty tragic backstories and missing parental figures/a found family of sorts. The secrets they each keep are also major plot reveals in both games.
if ralsei eventually comes out as trans I will immediately lose interest in the game, breaking free of the /utg/ and deltarune curse overall. true [FREEDOM]
>>574886484because the thought of ralsei being a tranny is so utterly abhorrent that it angers me. There's no way he could be that shallow and retarded
>>574886631it's 2026, no one gives a shit anymore
I really like art of Ralsei playing active sports, seeing such a little guy enjoying these activities is very endearing.
>>574884791He should have done this
>>574886851literally just come out of the closet sis lolit's not that hard you'll feel better
>>574886776What is "yuri" about this I don't get it
>>574886831
>>574886484in general people prefer it to be up front that a character is gay or trans so they know what expectations to have for them. this is likely part of why characters that are upfront gay stereotypes are universally more popular on 4chan than normie characters that became gay later
>>574887036using irony and hate to try to distance yourself from who you know you are isn't going to work sis lmaoliterally just accept who you are and you'll feel way better
>>574887036That Kris sprite look is very reminiscent of something.something to do with cara but i cant recall..
>>574886831>if ralsei eventually comeshnnnnng
>>574884817unironically Radiation Fox
>>574886589>>574886316Thinking of everything as a tally of "what is for me" vs "what is for others" is retarded and will never not be retarded. Nobody "owns" a character because they feel like they relate to the character and a writer does not owe anybody any amount of representation and is not "taking something from you." Grow up.>>574886316So being a feminine male stops being valid as soon as you pursue transition? Is the feminine presentation not okay anymore because that person pursues something beyond what they were before?>>574886619Didn't read the post award
>>57488698941% o algo
>>574887098Do we have any examples of trans characters who came out during the story that were still beloved by the fandom? No, Jax doesn't count he killed himself before transitioning
>>574886671>don't worry about [the one you love]Ralsei had every right to burn him down and piss on his corpse
ralsei shouldn't be trans cause girls don't make my dick hardI'd still wuv him cause he's cute but damn would he be less hot
I don't care about if Ralsei is trans but if the point is that by being trans she broke the prophecy I will never play again a Hacky Faux game
>>574887193>MOOOOM I POSTED IT AGAIN
>>574886928BAAAAASED
>>574887098i dont like the way gays are brought up whenever someone is complaining about trannies. being gay and trans are totally different anyway, you don't have to tell anyone you're gay to be gay. you do have to let people know you believe in gender and that it doesn't match your sex to be trans, and then everyone else has to lie to you so you don't melt down over water being wet
>>574887174>a writer does not owe anybody any amount of representationIf the writer has been selling plush toys of a character for 8 years calling him a BOY and look how cute and fluffy this BOY is, telling me he's a BOY as advertisement to buy the product, then you tell me he decided it's a girl, I'd get pissed, yes. The writer owes me consistency in the product I'm buying, otherwise this is false advertisement.
>>574887214Yeah, webcomics do it all the time, mostly as the result of those things going on over the course of decades.
>>574887267I think flowery just meant for Ralsei to not be completely subservient to Kris and choose for himself a bitMaybe he even meant to not be subservient to us, but i kinda doubt flowery knows THAT much (but he does say Kris had "changed")
Why does the staff keep trying to send us here, this place is rancid (ch. 3+4 era was pretty good though)
>>574887214we do not because trannies are not lovable and this is likely why writers who aren't toby need to trick you into getting invested
>>574887267I mean, it was about how Ralsei shouldn't bend over backwards for Kris and get the worse drink for himself just so that Kris has it slightly better, that's a reasonable message.
Honest question for transfem anons. Do you think Ralsei coming out as trans would be good or bad storytelling?
why are we getting mad about something that hasnt happened and probably wont happen>>574887214i wouldnt say beloved exactly because it never had a screaming fanbase in general, but cucumber quest had an incidental character become trans.
>>574884817unironically ralsei
https://poal.me/jpbgydhttps://poal.me/jpbgydhttps://poal.me/jpbgydhttps://poal.me/jpbgyd
>>574887391>transphobic post*look inside*>severe autismEvery time. Sometimes, and this may shock you, things change. I highly doubt the message will be "Ralsei is a woman and always was CHUD KILL yourself if you call her a boy ever again" it will likely be more in line with the idea that ralsei doesn't have to be a "prince" if he doesn't want to. A character developing from one way to another is not "false advertisement." Is Susie not being a mean girl bully like she was in the first fives minutes of the game "false advertisment?" Is frisk not being the fallen child we named "false advertisment?" Be fr
>>574887632Just /v/ things
>>574887565I have to wonder if anyone who genuinely believes there's going to be a Ralsei Coming Out Arc has ever even played a Toby Fox game
Characters Toby wants you to herk off to:>Swatchlings>Tasque manager>Radiation Fox>Netskies>RG1 and RG2>Mew Mew>Mettaton>Temmie
>>574886784Yeah, the cosplays really suit their personalities and narrative roles. I wonder if it might also suggest something about their relationships to (You) if (You) are indeed meant to be in the defense role, since that would make Kris your rival-turned-ally, Susie their loyal friend who still helps you out, and Ralsei your assistant which all seems fairly accurate so far.
would ralsei fuck dogs (feral, non-sapient)would he disapprove of kris fucking dogswould he disapprove of (You) fucking dogswould he think it's ok, or would he think it's animal rape
>>574887565this artist is yet another person who is hopping on the tralsei bandwagon :/ never drew or referenced him before this tweet
https://poal.me/1ombdu
>>574887715>TemmieAh yes, the dog goblin creature that is a insert for his wife and is a teen in deltarune, he wants everyone to herk off to her
>>574887661>ralsei doesn't have to be a "prince" if he doesn't want to.sure, but the way out will not be identifying as a princess. if you had played the game you would have realized that
>>574887174>what's for me and what's for othersRetarded or otherwise, that is exactly how the general populace treat representation and why they see it so important, racial or gender. Hell, you can see it at /utg/ with the anon posting the wiki screenshot whenever someone calls Kris "he" and completely rejects the idea of Kris having ambiguity on what they are. Other instances of this being the case is every time a race-swap happens, whether its white-washing or "woke-washing" (is that the term the chudies use?), people get upset for something seemingly robbed from them.
>>574887726He wouldn't do itHe'd reluctantly avoid talking about it if (you) or kris did it, because he's afraid and wants to placate bothHe would not think its ok
>>574887774i never watched transformers so i'm going to pick megatron because it sounds like mettaton
>>574887826Temmie isnt his wife silly she doesn't love him
>>574887852what precisely would be his views on the matter
>>574886484Who on earth is self-inserting as Ralsei? Because I know we don't have any attractive femboy anons on /utg/. There's like 2-3 anons who reeeally want to fuck Ralsei but not other men so it's not like they're actually gay.I'm fine with Ralsei being a girl because then Kris can have a girlfriend and be straight.
>>574887861Mettaton can probably transform into a gun/tank.
>>574887715The Mew Mew sneak
>>574887565I'm transfem according to that really bad youtube video people keep making bait posts about and I say "it depends" but more likely to be good than bad in toby's hands>>574887687Ralsei doesn't need to turn to the screen and say "I'm a girl" in the same way noelle doesn't need to turn to the screen and say "I am sexually attracted to other women" but that doesn't mean that either of them would be closeted
>>574887924My cameras beg to differ
>>574887998:o
Can we table all this trans Ralsei talk until I think of a better joke than "Ralsei is MtF (Meteor alien to Furry)"? I swear I can do better than that if you just give me some time.
>>574887661It's not false advertisement because Susie wasn't a bully for 8 years and was sold as a bully before it was revealed she actually isn't one. This logic doesn't apply to complete products. In fact for some reason Toby Fox refuses to sell lighter merch because it doesn't feel "right," but apparently misgendering one of your characters for that long would feel right?
>>574888019The bosses in this game are more fun than 99% of what passes for gameplay in other titles these days.
>>574887948I self insert as Noelle and Ralsei.
>>574888019Average troon
>>574884583Yet another tumblr sexyman a victim to the fat infection
>>574888063i'm trying to pivot to ralsei's opinions on the ethics of zoophilia but no one's interested
>>574888131You self insert as a bunch of bottoms?
Ralsei being trans wouldve been better to reveal in an earlier chapter, or atleast have it conclude this one if its to happenCh6 is where shit is supposed to go down, where is ralsei coming out going to fit
>>574888019This guy acts like Toby doesn't consistently drop new sick af mechanics every chapter.
Everyone grab your "beat Pink before the nerf" award
>>574887726now THIS is discourseI think he'd have a pretty nuanced view that questions normal societal assumptions about the necessity of informed consent but conclude that fucking dogs is in practice harmful often enough to be worth universally condemning
>>574888193Yes.
>>574887978>Ralsei doesn't need to turn to the screen and say "I'm a girl"Yes he does. To be a trans "woman" you have to come out and say you believe you're actually a woman or start using she/her pronouns. To be a homosexual (or a bisexual) you only need to show attraction to the same sex. Comparing Suselle to the Tralsei stuff is dumb anyway as Noelle's attraction to Susie was never obscure. You would have a point if Noelle was eating lily cakes or some shit whenever Susie popped up
Ralsei is actually FtM and was already confident with his identity by the time we meet him. He just still dabbles in some femininity anyway which is not uncommon for trans people.
Ralsei doesn't know what sex is. Sex isn't part of the prophecy.
>>574887971what can't he do
>>574888220i managed to beat both pink and flowery first try, atlhough BARELY on both
>>574888019I think the person who wrote this and people who post xitter screenshots here should be executed by firing squad.
>>574887978>"I am sexually attracted to other women"Speaking of, it's funny how forced that tenna dialogue is if you haven't sent him to mettaton yet, where he says noelle's favorite smash bros fighter was... all the girls, and instead of fighting she'd just use them to play house.I saw that and went "jesus we get it she's gay". An actual joke would be revealing which one she used for a fictional wife?
>>574888267Pink... it was nice to meet you.Goodbye.
>>574887214does Rocko's Modern Life count?
>>574888019Posts written through angry tears by someone who couldn't make the frame perfect jumps for the climbing trophy in chapter 4
>>574888362toby doesnt give a fuck about players who didnt do his canon route
>>574888273toby seems like the kind of writer to write some shit like>From now on... I'd like to leave being a "prince" behind, Kris...in a way that isn't unambiguously about gender so chuds can keep saying that transfem ralsei is a delusional headcanon but everyone in universe she/hers ralsei after that anyway
>>574887721Again I think the Edgeworth stuff in particular has crazy potential implications for Kris especially after all the focus on the seeds at the end of chapter 5>>574888019The story and music are definitely the primary draws for the game but you have to appreciate how much better the overall battle designs are since Undertale. Jevil and the Knight are two of the most fun battles Toby has made and there are so many fun ideas and executions across the board. That being said putting in a "nerf" for pink by putting the trackers on the small bombs would be totally reasonable for how fast they explode
>>574888019>>574888117>>574888135>>574888210"Gameplay vs Story" debates in Toby's games are uber retarded. The magic of these games is that Toby puts great, persistent effort into making the story moments interactive, both in decision making and visceral gameplay reactions. To watch the game instead of playing it is to make a disservice to the overall experience.
>>574888019they’re right though the gameplay in deltarune is pretty dogshit for most enemies you barely get a chance to enjoy the bullet patterns before they end
>>574887715Keep it on the download(Or dont because i want more green fox)
gabagool
>>574887653I KNOW WHO I AMTHE MOONLIT LAKE TOLD ME"THIS IS WHO YOU ARE"MY FANGS ARE SO LONGMY NAILS ARE SHARPER THAN ICETHAT IS ME
>>574888362>he never fucked around in training mode/with multiple controllers and played out little skits with the characters in smashYou have no soul and shall not see the light of heaven
>>574887726>>574887852>>574887935>>574888237He thinks it's horrible, but can't help getting horny (and hungry) by thick knots.
>>574888509i'm glad retards like you are nowhere near the writing
>>574888603GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>574888428It technically happened in a sequel so there's the barrier someone can just ignore it, I guess not
>>574888714groan
>>574888616THAT IS BULLSHITBRAZINGSTILL MAH HEART ISBRAZING IF THE WORLD KILLS ME I DONT NEED A NEW WORLD ORDER, YOUCANT FEEL A THINGWE ALREADY KNOW THE SMELL OF THE GAME
>>574888237why would he feel that it ought to be universally condemned regardless of context?does this suggest that he believes the matter ought to be handled as though non-harmful sexual contact is impossible, even if it could be done?
>>574888671unironically best post in the thread so far
>>574888603Gabacute
>>574888636man, I remember roleplaying as a pirate in wind waker, claiming that ice island as my base and terrorizing every beadle shop I see. good times.
>>574888775grunt
>>574888852>>574888881gort
>>574888671Uh oh...
>>574887653I SEE NO, HEAR NO EVILBLACK WRITINGS ON THE WALLUNLEASH A MILLION FACESAND ONE BY ONE THEY FALLBLACK-HEARTED EVIL OR BRAVE-HEARTED HEROI AM ALL, I AM, ALL I AM
>>574888603Woah now, cool it with the offensive mobster stereotypes. Mr. G doesn't appreciate that sort of humor, capisce?
>>574888510I don't think Toby is going to take any specific plot beats from AA, but I could definitely see the seeds being used for a section of the game where it's ambiguous if Kris is even alive. All they'd have to do is pop the seeds and then close their eyes and think of Susie for a while to send our POV away.
>>574888636I don't know what you're talking about my man, I would take the fighters and set their cpu difficulty to max and watch them fight it out.Now if you're talking about skits you just described the average gaming webcomic right next to the mega man sprite webcomics.
I'm interesting in writing something set in the past and Dessriel flavored. I can picture how their relationship dynamics flow with their families, but what can I do about supporting characters? Like other people around Asriel and Dess' age. I have, what, Pizzapants, Bratty and Catty? Are there any other characters that can be used to fill up a cast or do I have to make OCs?
>>574888870I didn't have sm64 as a kid so to me peachs castle was that little bit on royal raceway in mk64 so I would throw Mario or Luigi off the blast some and swap carts and drive up to it and be like "whooa I fell out of the freaking sky"
>>574888942ghey
>>574889168gort splort imminent
>locked to a single fight>only available in a certain route>locked behind the ACT abilityWhy doesn’t this ability appear in any other fight in the game? Is Kris hiding his power level around others hence why he cant use this amazing ability anywhere else in the game?
>>574887978>Ralsei doesn't need to turn to the screen and say "I'm a girl"Yes he does, actuallyHe's not transing his gender if he's not making an active effort to present as something other than the gender he was assigned at "birth"If "trying out" being a princess and putting on a dress for a bit makes him a trans woman, then by the same standard of proof Susie is a trans man because she dresses masculine and wants to be the King to Noelle's Queen.Susie has an outright better argument with consistently presenting masculinely and showing obvious discomfort with femininity, but FOR SOME REASON nobody ever talks about that, really makes you think
>>574889248>>574889264Bruh
>>574889071Blue Ears is presumably around the same age since he's friends with Bratty. A lot of Lightners are ambiguously aged enough that you could slot them in like the ghost cousins, Shyren, milk looker, etc.
>>574889248demonic drawing but Dess with braces is a superb choice
>>574889264gort control here, we are ready for discharge
just beat up an afab
>>574889347which flavor of teenage molester do you want?
>>574889403COMING STRAIGHT TO YOUR HOUSE!! COMING!! COMING!! COMING!! FROM YOUR HOUSE!!
>fans speculating about a third game after Deltarune>meanwhile Toby is exhausted from the pace of Deltarune's development and can't wait to be done creating for good
>>574888810He strikes me as the sort of person who believes that society's rules should err on the side of being overfirm, with exceptions carved out when the situation demands it, rather than trying to anticipate every situation and risk leaving loopholes or ambiguities open to exploitation by bad actors. In the case of zoophilia, he'd probably go out of his way to avoid admitting that non-harmful contact was possible, and insist that people who could show their contact was non-harmful would somehow be able to argue their way out of consequences for breaking their rules, but more privately feel that any injustice done to those people would be less than the injustice in an alternate world where people can more easily believe or argue that their contact wasn't harmful when it actually was.
>>574889470Can't they just spitroast me instead
>>574889336>he
This thread would be better if it was tv time...
this is your goat for the evening
>>574889543Toby has explicitly said more than once that he wants to make more games after Deltarune
>>574889571yup thats his gender
>>574889567that might be a bit difficult because Dess doesn't have a penis
>>574888509toby doesn’t seem like the kind of writer to put trannies in his game at all
>>574889512*You received goat juice**You feel refreshed*
>>574889543He's vaguely talked about making other projects in the future, if he was going to give up he would have done it alreadyI doubt there will be anything else with the scope of Deltarune though
>>574888563My dick got up...
>>574889608Good, he's sexier like that
I don't like Ralsei, he doesn't trust his friends. Instead of trusting them he makes everyone believe he isn't powerful and that the way of Ralsei is the only good way to have a good ending.He justifies Kris's actions risking the world for his friendship.He already interpreted the role of the prince as he wants and he does have agency.He bullies Orange.I don't buy that he doesn't feel superior to others even if he has a inferiority complex.
>>574889742>you spilled some goat juice>asriel will bend over to clean it up for you
>>574889336kris and ralsei are both sandbagging because they know the second the player knows that their plan is put on an even harsher time limit
>>574889818>He bullies Orange.Based
>>574889336A common explanation is that it may be the fountain empowering Kris but idk about that. I think the most likely explanation is that Kris is alone against a very strong opponent that they also really fear/hate. Could also be the rage of being put on the weird route again by us OR alternatively is using their stronger techniques to try and kill Spamton faster to avoid the [[blue light specil]] and needing Noelle to finish the battle which winds up being impossible anyways
>>574889742why is it that this image makes me yearn for asriel to beat me up until i am bloody and then spit on me and trhen rap eme
>>574889818I’m so tired of this, he doesn’t bully Orange, that dumb mouse onahole bitch insulted him immediately and got what she deserved
>>574889336Yeah, kris is holding back for most of the gameIn the Tenna fight they deal a shit ton more damage if the sword route is completed, most likely cause theyre pissed for some reasonIn the knight fight their attack deals less damage than ralsei if both susie and ralsei are up but deals a shit ton of damage (substanitally higher than susie) if both of them are down, seemingly getting pissed at the knight for not being more gentle with themKris is probably like Ralsei, theyre hiding their powerlevel just like him
>>574889361I see, nice. Two secondary boys including the Nice Cream guy should be enough. I suppose I should've looked for the minor options. Milk looker sounds like a perfect meme character
>>574889338>FOR SOME REASONkek
>>574889825>you slap his butt>it's super effective
>>574889701Remember how in undertale a lion dude shows interest in mettaton's dress and when you return later he's wearing it? Or how that same lion guy is the waitress in deltarune.
>>574889787>Noelle doelesting herself with intrusive thoughts about Kris>The SOUL reading Noelle's mind and making Kris see her fantasies
we really cant even begin to imagine how great ralsei smells
>>574889336It's a cross-slash because they're dual-wielding their sword and their knife at the same time, but they otherwise keep their knife hidden at all times.
>me when I see Orange
We got new Susie sprite for Chapter6. It seems krusie had ended,
>>574889818I'd argue he naively trusts us, not Kris or the gang. Castletown's named after us after all. he's *our* prince. if we're really the angel he's praying to us thay we don't choose to kill Susie when we eventually go against her.
>>574890067True but that's background-lesbians-with-3-seconds-of-screentime-in-Disney-movies tier
>>574889996Fuck off Ralsei. You're a scheming faggot who doesn't respect his friends.
>>574890025>meow~~
>>574890093flowery would definitely humor orange by just pretending to be fucking obliterated by her punchgreat art
>>574890137>he's *our* princestop it before you spawn all the ralseifags that want to fuck him
>>574889752It will fall off a few days later but it will be huge worth
>>574885330This is a SFW board so I can only share the SFW version of it but thanks for sharing.
>>574889996Ralsei...
seeing as i have a pirated copy of deltarune, how would you move everything from it to another pirated copy of it the moment a new chapter for it gets released? which would be the specific files i'd have to relocate to effectively move all my possessings from one copy to the other?said wingading gastorrhoids the second
toby is forcing his team to work 90 hour work weeks to get chapter 6 to release on christmas
>>574890184O_O
>>574890137i heard were fucking ralsei? didnt read the post im replying to just another post that quoted it … where do i stand?
>>574890213>stop it before you spawn all the ralseifags that want to fuck him
I saw a really funny theory that Chapter 5 will be in Ice-E’s and I thought it would be silly, but now I kind of like the idea.
>Goat Strip Club
>>574890174Orange...
>>574890213hello
>>574890137>I'd argue he naively trusts us, not KrisHe follows up on the fountain-opening conversation by complimenting Kris's piano skills, which he knows are Kris's and not ours. He trusts Kris, not us.>if we're really the angel he's praying to us He's not praying to the Angel in that scene.
>>574890213you already replied to one, bud.
>>574890298:O <==3:O==3:O=3:3
>>574889338>He's not transing his gender if he's not making an active effort to present as something other than the gender he was assigned at "birth"agreed, I just don't know that toby is going to write a story in which ralsei's actions completely unambiguously 100.000% meet this standard without reading between the lines a bit>transmasc susiethe only thing susie has done to really step outside gender roles is the king vote, and there are enough jokes about the king/queen title (kris and noelle arguing about who's who, jockington being both, etc) to say you're not supposed to take this super seriously as a signal about characters' gendershe also doesn't have the very convenient "learning to stop shaping yourself according to the desires of others" plotline ralsei has that's very easy to slot transgenderism into, it just doesn't work as well thematically. There's a reason transmasc noelle is so much more popular of a headcanon than transmasc susie even though noelle is much more conventionally feminine. (no I am not talking about this thread's obsession with femboy reindeer)
Why is Ralsei so subservient to Kris? Like what are the actual nice things Kris has done to Ralsei outside of Player Input? Kris hugs Ralsei when we choose "It's okay not to smile". and I can think of no other example really...Flowery also says "Don't you LIKE serving humans?" which is weird since Darkners serve Lightners, who can be Monster or Human, why specify Humans directly? Is it because the PLAYER will always be a human? and He's always gonna serve the Player and that's why he's so subservient?That onsen scene is very critical, why does Ralsei blush so much? Is it because of Kris? Really?? You can be the most absolute horrific asshole to him and tell him to keep smiling and drink tea forever and he still blushes!!!
>>574890275God bless him
my scheming faggot wife blankly smiling while he fixes a rip in my coat sleeve… and he stiffens up when i hug him from behind but he doesn’t move and he’s thinking if today should be the day he leaves me for good…
>>574890463He longs for the human cock.
>>574883494I'll be ok with whatever but I bet Ralsei goes they/them and not she/her
>>574884583Would this increase or lower the risk of Ralsei snapping and starting Firegraves/the Inferno of Jealousy?
>>574890520Whos middle guy
>>574890450<3
I still don't know what an AFAB is
>>574890098realI feel that every scent that comes off of him is enchanting and irresistible
>>574890463
>>574890415>He follows up on the fountain-opening conversation by complimenting Kris's piano skills,The piano playing sprites are labelled "puppet", it's the soul all the way
>>574890463he gets turned on from it
>>574890463>Like what are the actual nice things Kris has done to Ralsei outside of Player Input?We don't know, but we know they speak off screen sometimes so that's probably it.>Is it because the PLAYER will always be a human? and He's always gonna serve the Player and that's why he's so subservient?Yes.>You can be the most absolute horrific asshole to him and tell him to keep smiling and drink tea forever and he still blushes!!!He knows that's you and not Kris, he's only speaking to Kris there.
>>574890137even in the weird route he keeps the fact of what's about to happen during the lake scene a secret from susie because Ralsei's assuming we're doing what we think is best. so I think the routes are supposed to be intertwined with some way deeper than we think
DeltaruneDeltarune ZDeltarune GTDeltarune Super.>>574890659assigned frisk at birth
>>574890659That's when you don't jerk off for 90 days.
>>574890648thank you for posting with me fren, i am debating if i should go to bed early or not rn. cya laters!
>>574890672>transitionsGaster, you fucked up. This isn't what I ordered.
>>574890659Assigned female at birth. Someone the doctor looks at and designtes as a female.
>>574885930Anon you are retarded if you think the prophecy being gendered is an accident
>>574890463i get what you mean but people who hate ralsei aren’t going to pick him over susie and that was likely the intent
>>574890119>when the cutscene merchant robs you of a victory again
>>574890630artist oc
>>574890678Okay then Ralsei is in love with the third entity and not Kris or (You) if that's what makes you happy.
>>574890790Thank you too! Good night in advance! :)
>>574890797it really should be identified as because there’s not a single doctor who looks at a baby boy and “assigns” them afab. assigns implies there’s wiggle room to the observation
>>574887174Anon you are too based, but you have to stop replying to posts that get filtered. I keep having to open them just to read what you posted. It's really annoying. Just ignore those ones
twitter user came up with this assignment for the flowers if they were UT soulsthoughts?
>>574890463I think Kris may be being more open with Ralsei in the scenes where were thinking about SusieBut i do think Ralsei's attitude towards Kris might also be partly because were in them, so they placate us by being a doormat you can do whatever you want to, even if Kris themselves is probably somewhat disturbed by Ralsei being so submissive
>>574890943The point is that sex characteristics can be changed with hormones, so you use the word that implies a less absolute designation.
I want Ralsei kneeling between my legs sucking me nonstop while I play EU4 for the next six hours
>>574889556then, you think ralsei believes a few innocents being punished is worth it if it prevents a greater number of wrong-doers avoiding punishment?in other words, hometown's legal system being designed to minimize false convictions was a mistake?would he believe this to even be accomplished in this case, where all lightners having sex with dogs were motivated to hide all evidence of such regardless of the presence or degree of abuse taking place? would that not simply make them unaccountable, if their actions are so thoroughly hidden from the public eye?furthermore, what would ralsei do if he himself were convinced that a lightner's sexual relationship with a dog was not harmful? would he simply stay quiet?
absolute god of hyperdeath krisriel...
>>574887847Because there is no ambiguity there. There wasn't ambiguity with Ralsei until the ambiguity came along. If you want ambiguity for Kris wait for the game to introduce some. At this point in time, Kris going by they/them and dressing in clothes of both genders is completely unambiguous
>>574890960>Orange>Braveterrible
>>574890960>Garbage tierAll of them except Flowery and Orange >Shit tier Flowery>Literally disposable trash OrangeFixed the list
>>574890789this creature is the player's rival, their vergil, their zero
>>574891148jockinton...
I HATE DARKNERS, ROYAL GUARDS, CATTENHEIMERS AND GHOSTS
flowey is a cranky because yellow soul attribute isnt determinationits 'pissy' yellow
>>574890957brother please stop samefagging
>>574890943The terminology originates from the intersex community because some intersex people are assigned one sex or the other by surgical alterations to their genitals when they are infantsSaid the giant mouth nurse receptionist at the hospital when Toriel asked her about Kris
>>574891148i want Ralsei on my lap napping and moaning softly while i pet him for the next six hours
I'm so excited for chapter 7! Because after that, Deltarune will be OVER FOREVER. No more Ralsei, no more Susie, no more Noelle. We'll NEVER hear from these characters again VERY SOON. It's awesome!
>>574890943There is wiggle room in more than 1% of cases. That's why it's assigned, to not make a default presumption that there are two sexes when intersex people exist.
>>574890792
>>574890356Ice-E’s is exclusive to the all shadow crystals route, it’s where you fight Kris’ Nightmare
>>574890960Pink is obviously Ball Game
>>574891310Gaster will be in every Toby Fox game going forward
>>574891147>The point is that sex characteristics can be changed with hormonesmaybe in tralalalaville
>>574891264I swear I'm not, I was just pleasantly surprised to see someone spearing chuds like fish when I came back on here. It gratified me greatly
>That huge Noelle drawing in the megathreadIt's peak..>>574891420that looks like that cheap horror knockoff deltarune gaster
>>574891409because she's the only on the list with ballsi mean ball joints
>>574891479there's more to sex than genitals, you knowand it's not a binary, there's gray areait's not just gender that is ambiguous
>>574891590clopen gender...
>>574891034I actually had the thought that a crime and cop based dark world would have solved a lot of problems chapter 5 had with themes and such as fun as weebworld was. The flowers would work well as either a crime syndicate keeping him busy with cases to solve or as his idealized police department trying to help him solve the mystery of the vaguepost incident. There would have been endless references and tropes to lean into and he could have worked all the jokes about fandom theories into cases instead of just sort of sprinkling them throughout the chapter in a way that didn't feel too connected to the story at all but self indulgent and referential.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bW75OwVXZI
>>574890093flowery oniichan...
If Homer went to a Dark World would he say D'oh
Ralsei should become a girl and irrelevant, Lancer take the role of prince.The game becomes way better.
>>574891708I hate Lancer
>>574888152And that's a good thing
>>574891850>I hate Lancer
I want Ralsei to wear clothing.
>>574891850No, you don't.
The x in rouxls stands for sex
>>574891943No, you don't.
>>574891943There's not a single time where Ralsei is naked
i think susie will be the final boss of Side A
>>574891620I mean yeahmales and females existbut so do intersex peopleand trans people who have altered their body with hormone therapy and possibly surgery to express sex characteristics they did not have previouslybut people can also be fully male, for example, and female in gender, expressing themselves as women, performing the social-cultural function of woman. or perform something that completely escapes the binary of man/woman
>>574891949Okay fine I'm lying I don't actually hate Lancer, I just thought that was a stupid idea
>>574891865Stop feeding him! He'll get fertilizer burn!
>>574890137>he naively trusts us, not Kris or the gangRalsei loves and trusts Kris and Susie.Ralsei has FAITH in You. That's different.Ralsei might believe that Kris is "special" because they are Your vessel, but Ralsei still likes Kris as a person, despite everything. He loves Kris for who they are, not because of You.>>574890415>He's not praying to the Angel in that scene...then who, or what, is he praying to?Who else could grant Susie mercy from her tragic fate?Delta Rune iconography is all over Castle Town, Darkners also worship The Angel. Who else would it be?
>>574883065>>574882471the end of homestuck was terrible but the comic had been terrible for 5+ years at that point
i think the knight will have opened the flower king fountain itself during the weird route and we go through a shorter version of it in 7b where we can fight photoshop flowery and fully schizo'd pink
>>574891590>there's more to sex than genitalskekkkkkk
Fish I wish
>>574891943So he can immediately take it off, right?...right?
>>574892036You clopen minded individual...
so now that it's literally canon that battat has been fucking the tenna statue will the game's rating be raised
>>574892121i think this particular image is genderbent ralsei as the artist drew tits and a pussy
>>574892073are breasts not a human female sex characteristic
You're too queer.There are males and females.There are straights and faggots.It's that simple.
>>574892036"intersex" isn't a thing and is a birth defect.
>>574891708actually the prince is going to be asriel since asgore pointed it out in chapter 5. him and ralsei are going to marry and have kids and (since ralsei is kris' monstersona) it will explain that Kris became they/them because he wanted to have children with asriel but despite how much they tried with his bussy in the past he could never became boypregnant.
Ralsei is a boy and I'm not transphobic.
>>574891953He's really tucking it in there
>>574892275you can't just declare a whole group of people non-canon to win internet points...
>>574888152Flowery's a tumblr sexyman?
>>574883494If you don't pick any hang out with ralsei options your only semblance of the trans stuff is flowery calling him princess (does to everyone) and the dress scene which is basically skipped if you have starwalker.If that's the genuine intention with his character it needs more unavoidable buildup.
the game would be better if fish and goat mom participated in the dark world
>>574892358Egyptian Pharaoh's declared their own parents non-canon all the time.
Ralsei is a boy and I'm transphobic.
>>574892358just did. BOOMSHAKALAKAKAKAKAAKAKAKAAAAAA
>>574892121My tongue goes in there
>>574892410How? No really, what would improve by having your hand held by an adult while trying to enjoy your fun fantasy adventure?
>>574892243>>574892275This bait would be more convincing if you didn't jack it to futas every day anons.
>>574886727there were a few bugs from chapter 4 stuff that got fixedpeople have been spending the past month making up schizoid theories because of these bugsaverage /utg/ experience
>>574892438then why do you like ralsei? boys are inherently trans
Why does Deltarune fail at making people grow more empathetic
>>574892052Both Lightners and Darkners say "God," there is something above the Angel. Ralsei wants to banish the Angel's heaven, he doesn't worship the Angel. If you assume that the player is the Angel, it's obvious who has more power over the narrative than we could possibly ever have. That's who Ralsei prays to.
>>574892218they are but a man getting gyno due to synthetic hormones =/= female breasts. things on a female body are female; things on a male body are male. it’s that simple >>574892275intersex is real but intersex people are exceptions that prove the rule as they’re mutations of the sexes (of which there are 2)
>>574889338>FOR SOME REASON nobody ever talks about that, really makes you thinkthe reason for this is that tomboys are more popular than transmascs and the fandom is obsessed with tomboys (see dess holiday) so all odds are stacked against trans susie even amongst the lgbt crowd, meanwhile, femboys were already torn apart and called eggs by trans people so tearing the one positive femboy rep away like that is no issue for them
>>574890728>He knows that's you and not Kris, he's only speaking to Kris there.Does he really? When Ralsei gives us a choice between Blue & Pink and Yellow & Green, if the Player makes the choice to give Ralsei what he wants, Ralsei says: >* (Kris... has me in mind, too, Flowery.)>* (... I know it.)The choice the Player made apparently seems to have convinced Ralsei that Kris has them in mind, which is weird since he knows about the player, knows they make the decisions for Kris at times. Is this another way for Ralsei to maintain kayfabe from the player? If so are the other times Ralsei is touched by Kris also similar in nature? Being a sterotypical companion who gets touched by the Player Character metaphorically and potentially literally on the surface all the while beneath it is something else
>>574892513Intersex people are still either male or female.
Okay so interesting though, what if the Ice Palace is Noelle's house?
>>574890957Ty anon, but I crave conflict and I'm sorry. Making the low IQ think and have to explain themselves is a guilty pleasure>>574891264>s s samefag!!!>it's always samefagging when two or more people disagree with meGet real
>>574892586Anon, you were a female embryo before the hormones kicked in. Tranny
>>574892728not alwayssometimes they're stillborn
>>574892581because when you're faced with reality you realize it's just a work of fiction and its teachings don't apply in real life
>>574888019People act like gameplay and story are separate things when they are not.
>>574887214Mr(s). Garrison?
>>574892581I don't think it's a failure of Deltarune, I think it's the world we live in rn. People glorify ignorance and stagnation, they refuse to grow or challenge themselves. This isn't even a chud/non-chud thing it exists everywhere in our lives sadly.
>>574892661I think that'll be a reveal of some sorts. Ralsei thinks the player is the one doing anything bad (most notably making fountains) and kris is doing nice things when the reality is the reverse.
>>574892650also susie being a transman means suselle is no longer a lesbian ship, which is heresy
>>574891156>you think ralsei believes a few innocents being punished is worth it if it prevents a greater number of wrong-doers avoiding punishment?I don't think he'd want to boil it down to just numbers of who gets the right judgment made about them, it'd be a case-by-case thing depending on actual outcomes which he would argue, in the case of zoophilia, makes universal condemnation the right choice. That said, I feel like that would largely be a rationalization on his part to justify deferring to conventional societal attitudes towards the topic even though he knows that those attitudes themselves are flawed in their foundations.>where all lightners having sex with dogs were motivated to hide all evidence of such regardless of the presence or degree of abuse taking place? would that not simply make them unaccountable, if their actions are so thoroughly hidden from the public eye?He'd probably point to the animal husbandry industry as an example of openness and "accountability" failing to prevent harm, not realizing that he's undermining his own attachment to the status quo by pointing out its hypocrisy and not engaging with the hypothetical of a truly different society.>furthermore, what would ralsei do if he himself were convinced that a lightner's sexual relationship with a dog was not harmful?I doubt he'd be able to get himself to really believe that it was harmless even if all the evidence pointed to it, (or at least, to admit that he believed that) though he'd also be unlikely to rat them out. More likely he'd try to convince that lightner to change their ways himself
>>574892581I'm too old (26) to change.
WHY IS THE THREAD SO BAD
>>574892782you will die your father's son
>>574892947You were basically a baby when Deltarune chapter 1 released.
>>574892661Ralsei is thinking that to himself, so it's probably not kayfabe. I'd chalk it up to wishful thinking, when we do nice things for him he'd rather think Kris is the one picking those options than us.
Waterboarding every off-topic poster in this thread with Flowery moob nectar until they argue about things I care about and can masturbate to (obesity)
>>574892873It's impossible to promote personal growth when we are being bombarded every day with propaganda telling you to hate someone else or be put against others for some tribalist pointless reason for the sake of nothing in returnSaid Mr. Society as he rejects Castle Town and leaves
If gender was as amorphous and ephemeral as you say it is, then you would never have bothered or cared enough to try and change it in the first place.Said Evil Fave.
>>574893007post goats to make it better
>>574892586Why do you insist on using the most reductive definition of sex possible and then acting like you've won? Like, if someone has all the secondary sex characteristics of a human woman, but still has a penis, you still declare them unambiguously to be a male? Even if they physically express female sexual characteristics in every other possible way? Like it's just willful at this point...
>>574892581Empathy is a finite resource, and the current state of the world easily burns through it.
>>574892728No they are not. Intersex people predate the discovery of X and Y chromosomes at the 23rd pair. Phenotypes are a spectrum and our definition of male and female don't rely on genetics, only your poor argument does
im trans and transphobic
WHO IS YOUR FAVEDO THEY PREFER TO COOK WITH>TEFLON>STAINLESS STEEL>CAST IRON>CARBON STEELAND DO THEY PREFER>GAS>ELECTRIC>INDUCTION
>>574892661>>574892936(you) get the blames and kris the praises
>>574893039The ending was don't heal your enemy tho'
>>574891731>the nipplesuoog
>>574893054You ever stop to realize and think about how you're a significantly worse poster nearly everyone here? The TV fatfag posts were terrible, the spoid fatfag posts sucked, and your current posts are shitposts too.
>>574892581trannies are just too annoying they’re like the one “minority” group that all attempts to listen to and understand will make you hate them more
>>574893020Yeah thanks for affirming my gender.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQsy5TxOLMM
>>574893249dood
>>574892503none of them would be able to handhold kris and would have to flirt their way out of most situations
Since monsters are mostly different from one another (you got goat people, deer people, skeleton people, etc.), why is there any need to differentiate humans from monsters? From most of their POVs, wouldn’t humans just look like another type of regular being (of which they refer to themselves as “monsters”) as supposed to being a deviation from it?
>>574893206this
>>574893086No it isn't. The whole point of the videogame this thread is about is that it's not finite. Play the game, secondary
>>574893054I wanna see an image of Ralsei annoyed at how popular Flowery is but Flowery is an obese blob in it.
>>574886201But my male penis would get really hard about it, think about that
WHAT THE FUCK IS A GENDER EUPHORIA BONER
WHY IS MY HOLE SO FUCKING WET AND SOPPY AND HOT OH MY FUCKING GOD
>>574893127he cooks in a cauldron with magic flame, idk the material
>>574893335So you wanted to watch Toriel flirt with characters in sword game? I don't think you know what would make the game better, sorry anon.
Sometimes I fall in gender/politic discussion but the more I get replies and the more I notice I don't give a shit and I shouldn't have made my first reply.Noelle would be better than me at repressing offtopic shitposting.
>>574893465kris...
>>574893154It's the best way to handle the reveal.Susie doesn't give a fuck about the fountains, it's more of a "which one was my real buddy" angle, while Ralsei gets to go "oh god oh fuck what is kris doing when the player isn't here"If noelle's there even the normal route one gets to go "you guys didn't notice?"
>>574893452IT'S WHEN YOU IMAGINE YOURSELF AS A SEXY LADY AND YOU GET A BONER BECAUSE YOU IMAGINED A SEXY LADYWHY ARE WE YELLING
>>574893568It's not really off-topic when people use their views to brute force interpretations of the game and its characters. Like, Ralsei can't be trans or genderqueer because of whatever silliness they read on /pol/. It's necessary we have these conversations if we're going to discuss the game properly
>>574891556ball joints are erotic and made to be cummed in and on
>>574893465why did chara make you write that
>>574892584>Both Lightners and Darkners say "God," there is something above the Angel"Oh my god," "goddammit," etc. are Americanisms, like "Christmas." The Christian God does not exist in Deltarune. "God" is never mentioned in the context of worship.What Lightners and Darkners both do pray to is The Angel. The Church in Hometown and the Church in Castle Town are both explicitly devoted to worship of The Angel.>FATHER ALVIN: Let us pray that the Angel will smile upon her.>TASQUE MANAGER: Pray to the Angel, Kris!>Ralsei wants to banish the Angel's heaven, he doesn't worship the Angel"THE ANGEL, BANISHED, WILL FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE."The Angel WANTS to be "banished." That is its Fate. Even assuming being "banished" is harmful in some way, that just supports the characterization of The Angel as a Messianic figure.
>>574892941interestingcould ralsei be convinced to change his views, given a long enough discussion on the matter?would he even be willing to entertain the idea long enough, or would he just firegrave you and brush away the ashes before kris sees?
Ralsei can't be trans because that would be stupid.
>>574893478Cast iron. The modern version of cauldron cooking would be the dutch oven, and cakes made that way are pretty good actually.
>>574891731I love when people start drawing the woman of my dreams en masse out of nowhere.
>>574893386Proof?
goodnight utg, i am going to bed now, cya tomorrow
>>574893834Do you think Mettaton, Mew Mew and Spamton are "dumb" characters too?
>>574893919Mate it's the fucking afternoon
all of my posts are good and funny and insightful and I deserve an award
what if kris was allergic to goats
i want a group of trannies (mtf) to go and beat me up for being transphobic and then rape me with their male penises
>>574892581I tried, I'm just not a good person. I cannot love those far too different than me, sorry Toby Fox, I failed you. This is a Kill or be Killed world.
what if kris was allergic to dog semen
>>574893946Spamton is not trans.
>>574891731I noticed that you are continuously posting the incorrect version of friend and despite your lack of better judgement I am willing to help guide you on the right path with this fixed and correct version hopefully you have now learned from your mistake and won't post such insulting images again
>>574893796He'd be open to discussion but mostly under the hope that he'd be able to convince the other person that he was correct. Direct attempts to convince him would be unlikely to work, he'd probably need something to shake the foundations of his moral structure for him to make any changes more substantial than token concessions.
>>574893946What does that have to do with anything
>>574893973they'd be raised by the Holidays, I guess
>>574894079he literally talks about getting gender affirming treatment ingame anon
>>574894017Best I can do is a spike of metallic fixture that got lodged into my crotch in a freak accident during my bottom surgery
mysterious wind
>>574892581Because people are too cowardly to face themselves
>>574894123Do you think it's bad to write a trans or genderqueer character?
>>574894093that's a funny thing to say while posting an incorrect version of friend
>>574893769>"THE ANGEL, BANISHED, WILL FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE."I do wonder what that line means in the context of the weird route. The player is most likely the angel, but there's way too many angel references to Noelle that can't be ignored.
>>574893834i agree. beyond the nameless lion background character there are no actual trans characters in deltarune
Why would a game make you grow different? it's just a toy
>>574894240no
alphys titties so big and saggy she tucks them into her pants
What's the chances that Toby does an Undertale thing and reveals that there was another Human in the story or backstory? After all, Asgore knew how to seal a fountain which specifically require a Human Soul. Who told him or showed him that? Kris? Asgore doesn't think that Kris belongs in a Dark World and still expects the "fountain creator" to return to the fountain, so it's probably not Kris who showed Asgore that, especially as a kid.
>>574893568Honestly this image is making me realize that Noelle's break happens in the matter of 2 days in game time. Unless the Soul's influence made her descend down the dark path even when we were in the church with Kris.
>>574894312Then why would Ralsei's broader journey of self-discovery including discovery of their own gender be stupid?
>>574894129do trannies realize that men have always been insecure about masculinity and women about femininity or do they truly believe nobody had any concept of gender or playing with it before they came along in like 2016
>>574894257I think the idea of the prophecy is that it's going to play out in various different ways, maybe even back to back in some of the routes, and it'll be up to us to pick which one is legitimate and who fit which role in it
>>574892581>>574892795fpbp
I open /utg/ but all I see is /lgbt/
>>574894093you forgot the small one on the bottom leftI get people want to make black girl or whatever but black (void) girl is a lot hotter
>>574894257Weird route showed a CRT screen which is likely the another lay on top of the normal game layer. When we get Banished from the normal game layer, we get to see the layer above it which is whatever realm the CRT screen is at
>>574894257There can always be more than one "Angel"
>>574894253No it is correct friend is pure black darkness not brown
>>574894284>"We received a letter from a middle-school boy contemplating suicide, stating that watching how the characters in Final Fantasy IX lived their lives made him realize he had to try hard to keep living."
jarona
>>574893196SO true, Doomdoom-sama. It's just so hard to make more high quality posts like you and your best friends (Berdbro, Tasquetater, and Krautsie)
>>574894257true freedom, noelle will be banished to our world. Probably in a scp way like gaster but if toby could create real deer girls for us that would be great
>>574894584friend is also a cat not a catgirl
>>574894480Are you new?
>>574890770Super Deltarune Heroes!
>>574892581because life is the weird route irl
>>574894603We better fucking have a You're Not Alone moment with Kris toby you faggot fucking dog
>>574882463
Post KawKaw
>>574894673ok frbr would be a more accurate term
>>574893196got his ass here can't even lie
>>574892795me when mommy tells me to eat icky vegetables because they’re supposedly “good for me”
IF YOU INTERACT WITH THE TENNA STATUE BATTAT CALLS JONGLER "THEY"YET WHEN YOU GREET JONGLER, IT SAYS "GREET HIM"DO YOU KNOW WHO ELSE GETS CALLED BOTH HE/HIM AND THEY/THEM?RALSEIRALSEI IS JONGLERRALSEI IS A MICROPHONE TREEhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decca_tree
deltarune sucks shit fuck you
>>574894385She reveals in the lake scene that she had the blues for a while now, I'd assume the shock of what she's being forced to do causes her to see the entire thing as a heaven sent answer.
>>574894408NTA I think it's just not a very well made story so far with questionable evidence at best 5/7 chapters in the story, and I think you can play out his journey of self discovery in different ways that work with more synergy with other questions about his character such as reason he's Asriel's anagram and not being real. I'm very skeptical this would become a good story so I feel Ralsei would just be an unsatisfying character and a bad trans character.
>>574893769>The Christian God does not exist in Deltarune.Just because there's a God doesn't mean it's the Christian God specifically>"THE ANGEL, BANISHED, WILL FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE."You are quoting the chapter 4 version of the prophecy which is different from Ralsei's version where the heroes must proactively banish the Angel to save the world. Also the Angel "meeting with its desire" after banishment does not mean that the Angel wants to be banished, that's a leap in logic.Do you think Alvin and Tasque Manager know more about the world of Deltarune than Ralsei? Alvin also misattributes the Fun Gang's actions to the Angel.
>>574892795>>574894480Guys the whole point of Deltarune is that your choices matter even if they don't "change fate" or overthrow the greater system of control.
>>574894724We will be with them in the dark anon. And it will be kino
>>574890659a technically accurate termif you eve see CAFAB then you have a 100% guarantee the person you're talking to is braindead though
>>574894385>Honestly this image is making me realize that Noelle's break happens in the matter of 2 days in game timePretty amazing comparing ch.1 Noelle to WR Noelle
>>574894826Punished Kekbasedkrautbro...
>>574894786sex pillow creature
>>574894826This reply made it all the more worthwhile.
important videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opGju28vG4I
>>574894786
>>574894892Matter how?
>>574894257my personal interpretation is that the angel is the soul but the whole point of the weird route is to get a replacement, turning noelle into the angel so she becomes the banished instead.
>>574894408because gender doesn’t exist and deltarune doesn't care about it. everyone does whatever they want and when they do not this is never related to "gender" but rather more concrete and interesting things like “my sister vanished and now i’m struggling to keep up a smile” or “destiny has decided terrible things for me and my friends and i’m struggling to keep up a smile”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZUXuLciBFQ
>>574895058cute
>>574890659It's a fabulous person.
>>574895150You think Toby Fox made it so the Hometown Festival has a King and Queen and didn't mean anything by it? There is commentary on gender in Deltarune, whether you like it or not
>>574894843Jongler is the stupidest name in all Toby Fox history.
who the fuck is kraut
>>574895298He made it :’)I’m so proud of you Spamton
>>574895335local schizolike all local schizos, 99% of the time their name is said it's not actually them and just random anon that that one particular anon doesn't like
>>574895123A violent route in which you alienate everyone and refuse to dream and form bonds, refuse to give yourself to others is incomplete, lacking something essential, just miserable in a lot of ways. A pacifist route is fulfilling, full of joy and friendship. You completely change the lives of so many people around you. The whole texture and feeling of the game changes. If you gather the ShadowCrystals and eggs, you also help Kris work through their deep-seated issues. You can help them. Even if the final tragedy can't be avoided, that MATTERS. Real life is the same way. Maybe being kind won't let you usher in a worldwide utopia and put a stop to the cycle of human violence. But it can and will radically transform your life and the lives of those around you. What kind of person do you want to be? When you die, what kind of person will you have been? Your choices make all the difference in the world.
aqua is inherently sexual
>>574894892>the whole point of Deltarune is that your choices matter>they actually don't in gametricky tony...
>>574895315aiyoo retard
You get confirmation that Battat jacks off to the Tenna statue and /utg/ is the shame shithole of falseflagging and baiting, maybe I do need to leave this place Chapter 3+4 era was the last good era in here
>>574894850I suppose we're more just a very big straw that broke her back in that sense then
>>574895380Yeah, me too... (Don't worry Friend is chill in this image)
if the weird route is the “bad” route then why is spamton so much funner to fight than queen?
>>574895487and we will talk about inanimate objects jerking off.... in our IDEAL WORLD...
>You ever stop to realize and think about how you're a significantly worse Chef nearly everyone here?>The Trout Yogurts were terrible, the FlatSoda sucked, and your current TVDinner recipe is a shit one too.
>>574895442How
>>574895534One for both Asriel and Dess...
>>574895534cumming on kris' pits in the dress>>574895540because you fight him on the normal route too
>>574893357It makes sense in Undertale because of their their different natures, being magical and physical based respectively. I personally suspect that a certain point in the past, monsters and humans held this distinction in the world of Deltarune, but they've interbred with each other for so long and to such a degree that these differences have now largely became marginal. So it's mostly an artifact term.
>>574895335An attentionwhore, you should forget xe exists
>>574895540It's the bad-ASS route.
>>574895427Well if you're a bad person or you hate Suselle or something, you certainly had more fun playing the weird route. I guess we are back to Undertale's player and meaning towards a fictional world whether you're an emotional participant or just playing with toys
>>574895710well sure but i want to know the story
>>574895484Anon we don't sign our posts here
>>574895767then fuck off, retard
kraut owns you fags remember that
Oh wow did the fatfag just get blown the fuck out so hard by being called a shitposter they are immediately crying about everyone in this thread with a name? What a pathetic loser lol. Do you really think people like seeing the fat tenna parodies of posts in the thread you don't like?
>>574895767Literally just an attentionwhore that's been here for longer than DR's been around, there is no "story"
Thread quality so poor I’m just gonna go work instead of browsing on my break
>>574895852I do, those are some of the funniest posts in these threads lmao
>>574895749In the end, they'll wish they let their old pal Spamton kill them.
>>574895948The only funny part is it reveals how utterly assmad that person is constantly. Imagine their complete seethe to act how they do.
https://unofficialmspafans.bandcamp.com/album/kindred-soulseven the fan groups have abandoned homestuck (unsurprising)
>>574895852The fatfag parodies are hilarious, if you don't like them that's a (You) problem
>>574896042I dunno, you seem pretty mad right now yourself. Anger is natural
>>574895615I've only made good posts about my faves fucking each other and I never got invited to a single discord or whatever group so I think I am not accepted in this shit world or in the ideal world
Just learned I missed out on encountering FRIEND in Chapter 2, it’s actually so over.
At the end of Chapter 7 will you choose Destroy, Control or Synthesis
it’s weird that all the characters pray and go to church but are accepting of gay marriage and trans
>>574896069>>574896080They're made in the context of someone who is bitching, moaning, and off topic posting about thread quality. Just another complete lack of talent and creativity wasting a post in this thread.
>>574895749Toby is the one playing with toys and torturing them by creating the game in the first place
>>574896082same... we're rejected buddies together...
>>574896059I thought this was a new one anon.Anyway, yes Homestuck turned to shit and the author is a piece of shit. If there's one thing I don't like about Toby Fox is that he gives that retard the time of day
Oh wow did the shadowman just get his back blown the fuck out so hard by tenna's fat cock they are immediately crying about everyone in tv world with a bmi over 40?
>Oh wow did the fat flower just get blown the fuck out so hard by being called a soil eater he is immediately crying about everyone in this Dark World who's an actual human?>What a pathetic loser lol. Do you really think people like seeing your jarona parodies of parts of the Prophecy you don't like?
>>574895427>You completely change the lives of so many people around you.In Undertale yes, but not in Deltarune. The only people impacted by your choices at all in Deltarune, outside of the weird route, are a CRT and a Halloween decoration. You don't have a positive impact on them, only a negative one or the absence of a negative one.>If you gather the ShadowCrystals and eggs, you also help Kris work through their deep-seated issues.The eggs explicitly aren't important and collecting them has caused zero long term changes to Kris' character. The Crystals haven't changed Kris' character either.Undertale is the game where your choices matter and you can have a positive influence on others, Deltarune is about how that's impossible and you can only possibly influence the world negatively if you try to force yourself on it instead of just passively watching things happen.
>>574896130what are you implying with that image?
>>574896130That's just how it is with protestants from new england
>>574896243This looks like that whiteboard artist that was bullying people out of the thread. What was their name again?
>>574896169Let me guessYou hate OCs tooand you hate fave postingwhat do you like? the same regurgitated discussions that have already been had a thousand times like "is ralsei a tree" and "is ralsei trans"?fat Tenna posting is FUNNY, its comedic and makes me smile, all your posts are negativity for the sake of being negative because you cant just post about what you enjoy instead
>>574896130Toby was brought up Episcopalian, they're generally more liberal than other Christian denominations.
>>574896130Robert is Episcopalian, the church being all oppa kumbaya style comes with the territory
>>574896207he's probably still friends with hussie, dude did live in his basement for a good few yearshussie's then dramatic fall into sociopathy and screaming attempts at relevance were funny though, even had to crowbar in undertale to homestuck's end just to try and get some minor attention
>>574896169They're made in the context of turning meaningless posts into something funny and at least partially on topic, unlike your continued seething about muh fatfags which would be the waste of posts you speak of
>>574896254Completely wrong.
fat Tenna posting is SEXY, its erotic and makes me cum
which song uses the freedom motif the besthard mode: not the world revolving
>>574896130you know that's pretty normal in most churches righteven all the catholics around here are pro-lgbt fuck I think the pope made some comment about gays being fine a few years ago>>574896537does big shot count because it's still used pretty wholelyunironically I really like air waves too
>>574896537Unused Power of Spamton, fuck the way it loops and crescendos with small variations near the end is so good
>>574896537*The BATTAT Motif
>>574896175You're not actually being condemned for killing pixels in Undertale or Deltarune. The point is more that, through a video game, you're able to participate a little bit in the mindset of someone who is "soulless" and disengaged from reality. It's supposed to make you think about the way you're acting in the real world, just like the pacifist route is.
>>574896428He's done more retarded things since then, trying to wrest Homestuck back from the few fans that remain
noelle and the knight are the two most interesting charactersthe other ones are just okay
They're made in the context of someone who is dieting, fasting, and exercising about three times a week. Just another complete lack of gourmandism and cooking wasting a meal in this restaurant.
>>574896130How did Kris resist the urge to hug and kiss Ralsei at that moment?
>>574896593I genuienely feel like power of spamton might rival Big Shot just cause of the don't forget motif at the endThen again i love dont forget so much if BIG SHOT had it itd probably eb one of my fav songs ever
>>574896537Hammer of Justice? It's FREE without the oppression and for the first time it sounds fucking hopeful compared to the others which sounds like pure madness.
>>574896537Big Shot
>>574896623it's the air waves motif, retard>>574896643he literally sold the IP to some company a decade ago he has fuck and all to do with itthough in fairness I haven't paid any attention to it in a decade so maybe something's happened
>>574896629The real world isn't video games. If toby had any real life experiences outside of going to homestuck conventions he would realize how trite of a point he is making And it's still his fault for allowing people to play the game in the first place
fave's big boobies...
>>574896337It was me btw. Fuck elbow inflation fetish HopsCheffag and latex lawnmower roller fetish Whimsunfag. Eyefag LooxGODS rule this general with an ever-watchful (and lickable) eye.
>>574896705Imagine it turns out Kris was a big fan of Ralsei from the start and felt an attraction to him (and maybe Susie too)But felt guilty about pursuing any relationship cause their plan involves them killing themselves crazy style or smtn at the end
>>574896537https://youtu.be/y45b7UpedmE?list=RDy45b7UpedmE&t=215
>>574896819>The game isn't REAL you can't be NICE to peopleman we sure are back to 2015 talking points huhyou know, the literal thing flowey says at the end? that the real world is a bitch?
>>574896772Yeah, you're wrong about that. Take a look if you want eye cancer. Hussie is a massive retard, sending cease and desists and threats of lawsuit to people trying to make his comic readable without flash
>>574896130its a fictional religion that teaches about how lancer says toothpaste boy and jockington growing a beard
>>574896772The Switch 2 version of Deltarune is non-canon because Pluey is named Pluey even though Pluey is green Pippins' minigame in the Switch 2 version
I thought we'd have more shelter codes by now desu
>>574896537I love how Hammer of Justice uses only a few hints of it and then brings in the World Revolving calliope
>>574894873>Just because there's a God doesn't mean it's the Christian God specificallyThe existence and observance of Christmas doesUnless of course, you accept that every mention of "God" and "Christmas" are in a purely cultural context removed from their religious meaning, since it wouldn't make any fucking sense for these characters to be Christians worshiping God when we see them going to Church and worshiping "The Angel.">You are quoting the chapter 4 version of the prophecy which is different from Ralsei's versionYes, I am quoting the Objectively Correct version of the Prophecy and not Ralsei's abridged "Legend">Do you think Alvin and Tasque Manager know more about the world of Deltarune than Ralsei?I think that when they and every other character state that they are praying to and worshiping the Angel, it means that the religion of Deltarune revolves around The Angel, and there's no reason to believe Ralsei's faith is any different than theirs
>>574896819Again, you are not being "faulted" for playing genocide or the weird route. Toby is not at "fault" for writing those stories. An analogy is being drawn between the way people engage with fiction and the way people engage with reality. Yes, the real world isn't video games. But video games are a mirror of reality created by real people. They can be used to explore ideas with moral importance in real world. Feel free to go somewhere else if you think Toby's writing is "trite."
>>574896830>fave's big boobies...Frisk tits...
>>574896830Yes, his very big (man)boobies...
some monsters are treated better than others
>>574897023>t. The Knight talking to Gaster after hearing Susie brute-force the Shelter door open
>>574897023I will have my fucking shelter codes.
>Kris>Lvl 6 Dark Vessel>Body contains a SOUL and hosts a parasite of Deep Darkness.
trans women owe me sexbottom surgery should be banned, putting their dicks in my mouth should be mandatory
>>574896980that one unofficial one that actually makes the comic readable in 2026?well I mean I didn't have a good opinion of the guy but fuck him then I guess, shouldn't have deleted half your comic in the first place
>>574897023we have 1 3/4 out of 3 shelter codes so we're making good progress.
I played Undertale... I watched Spider Man being nice to everyone... I banged my head to MCR sonds... Why did I become a chud?
>>574897045>>574896967Toby makes his own writing impossible to take seriously in the first place because he always torpedoes every serious moment with gagshitHe's a funny guy who makes fun little games to play through. Everything else is navel gazing
>>574896906Kris thinks it's weird that their Dreemurrsona walks around and exists but eventually warms up to them. It'll be good to leave behind something when they die, and Ralsei is the best legacy one could have
Do you love Deltarune?if you don't then you shouldn't be here
>>574897023We have 2 out of 3. 1 out of 3 from Susie's perspective.
>>574897275>Toby makes his own writing impossible to take seriously in the first place because he always torpedoes every serious moment with gagshitI thought I smelled retardation on you, go back to fgo
>navel gazingBut enough about sticking my head inside Spamton's belly button
>>574897201this is triggering my tf fetish...
>tennalard tries to start shit for no reason and gets called out Love to see it. Another classic family guy funny moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjetHZtehNQ
>>574882632Catti's strongest soldiers will see the chapter 7 end credits roll and then go online and write an essay about the obvious clues pointing to a secret Catti chapter.
>>574897023you only need 1 to get in
>>574897357I LOVE Deltarune
Alright I'll be adding "gagshit" to my word filter you won
>>574897275>your choices matter>some people are like flowey>but you can be better if you just believe in yourself>you can make a differenceHow is this navel gazingAnd Deltarune is just>well maybe believing in yourself, maybe being determined isn't always enough>maybe you can't always make the change you want>even so, it matters>the kind of person you choose to be matters to yourself and others
Mike/utg/>>574896751>>574896751>>574896751
everyone hush! the knight is sleeping!
>>574897042>The existence and observance of Christmas doesNo. Other religions also have a God.>Yes, I am quoting the Objectively Correct version of the Prophecy and not Ralsei's abridged "Legend"The objectively correct version is irrelevant when the subject of the discussion is how Ralsei personally feels about the Angel. Ralsei's version is obviously more indicative of Ralsei's personal views than the objectively correct version.>there's no reason to believe Ralsei's faith is any different than theirsYes, there is. Ralsei has higher level knowledge about how the world works than the characters we see worshipping the Angel. He wouldn't have the same perspective.
>>574897393>>574897512None of it mattersHe's going to recycle the "a ghost appeared and pooted on you" ending from the halloween hack
>>574897642You can do a little better! Even if you don't think so!
>>574897272Any number of reasons.Death of the Author - the idea whatever ideas a reader gets from the work of fiction is AS VALID as the intended message of the fiction.Plus the lessons your life taught you might have really conflicted with your fictional messaging.I'm kinda chud-like when push comes to shove but all my friends are very woke and several are trannies and I wouldn't want them to change. UT and DR resonate with me in this way because you play as the only human surrounded by monsters and they're not scary, they're fun. But at the end of the day you are different.
>>574897446Deltarune characters' theme songs getting slower and lower in pitch along with switching instruments to tuba and timpani is a kino subfetish of them gaining weight. It would also be diegetic for characters like Tenna and Flowery, who would notice it or even do it on purpose.
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