Quarterly survey out now!>Summer Sweep-Up Gear & PvM Changeshttps://secure.runescape.com/m=news/summer-sweep-up-gear--pvm-changes?oldschool=truePrevious >>574741207
>>574901268good thread
>>574901268I fucked up the spacing on the bread
ikov world rapes this shit ngl
I am observing guy in avernics and ancients doing barrage task on necrys... and dying to them
>do you trust jagexno>do you trust the osrs developersno>do you trust customer supportno>do you like the direction the game is goingno>are you satisfied with recent updatesno
>>574901268>CG made ezpzgood thing or bad thing
you tried your best and thats what matters
hello
opt out pvp soon
>>574901474many are saying this
>>574901714I did some CG today and it's really comfy with the new changes
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Mlu_LZiSmNUthouhgts
>Creating a piece of Tier 3 armour requires 100 Crystal Shards, up from 80. The reason for this increase is that we don't want Tier 3 to become a guarantee/must-have for every run and should still be trading comfort for time-loss, encouraging people to push themselves down to Tier 1 prep for the fastest clears.keep clicking, helmie!
>>574902460many such cases
>>574901714>>574902409I think its a good thing because historically a lot of ironmen burned out hard at cg. Should make it a lot smoother.
20 armor seeds in 345 kc
I think we should have a community event where we fund Varrock into getting a smith's furnace.
just use doric's
ok so noone is going to say hello back to me then i guess
>>574902813jesas
>>574903620bye
sorry i was on the phone heyy
>>574903620Hello there
>>574903918who are you talking to?
im training slayer and im worried im gonna get called a credit card warrior cause im using high end gear even though my non combat stats arent all that but you know this is just my alt account you wouldnt know my main she plays on a different world
>>574904451irs
>>574905139going to happen to me after i do slayer for the first time after pickpocketing elves to 99
>>574905314well i think it helps that i have an infernal cape on the account or maybe it doesnt maybe theyll think i bought it even though it was earned fair and square and my slayer helmet isnt even enchanted since i dont have the nmz points this is a disaster
why are there so many replys where did the tourists come from
>>574905453>>574905453>slayer helmet isnt even enchanted since i dont have the nmz points this is a disasterno excuse for this it take like 10 minutes on pvp arena world
im only doing melee tasks since my mage and range aren't all that soooo it doesnt make 1 bit of a difference
i just defeated count dracula
Im just not that interested in old school runescape anymore
can i take your tbow if you're ending things
Cg doesnt feel aa mentally taxing now only if they can do that with toa
I envy people who still enjoy this game i truly do
>>574906468It's weird that Draynor is his first name, so Draynor Manor and Draynor Village are just named after his first name. Like, if he was Steve Drakan, would they call it Steve Mansion and Steve Village?
just realised ive got 67m banked in untradeables im basically the tim apple of osg
in all likelyhood im more tim apple than you
>just reached the Sepulchre step of the BRUHSailer guide>Sepulchre update hasn't landed yetB-Bros... What do I do? Help I don't have someone telling me what to do
lol you just reminded me of minecraft steve from the minecraft movie
you could try just being spontaneous and enjoying yourself instead of following a hyper efficient guide for everything. crazy i know
Looking back, it's pretty fucked up that we killed Count Draynor for no reason. He was canonically just chilling in his crib not hurting anyone for decades. He was too weak and harmless for anyone to bother. Morgan was the only person who cared because he was a racist (probably a member of HAM) and didn't want a vampyre living in the neighborhood and lowering property values.Imagine if we'd just let him go and then he could come home after we killed his chud brother.
>>574907287>SepulchreMan he was cool when he was fighting Drakath...
>>574907829what post are you replying to?
>>574907829didnt he like murder multiple people
uh my guess would be that they are replying to the post about count draynor i hope this helps
>>574907887I wasn't replying to anyone in specific. Someone mentioned Draynor Manor being named after him and it got me thinking about him in general.
>>574907917He hadn't even been seen by the villagers for generations. So the only people he'd killed in that time were adventurers (home invaders) trying to kill him. Legitimate self-defense, your honor.
draynor was weak he deserved to die
>>574907829Lmao
>>574907429are you talking to me
>>574907460what post are you replying to>>574907968>>574908008was meant for >>574907460>>574908445who are you talking to
ok now youre just confusing me
>>574908602who
>>574908445Shut the fuck up, Lowerniel. Should've just gone back to Vampyrium alone and closed the portal behind you and spent the rest of time hunting birds and fucking venators.
>>574907429>minecraft movie mentionedfinally i can post this againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5T16vyJas0
wish someone would talk to me
what did you have for lunch
are you talking to me
whos coming to my 125m agility party tonight
no i shant sorry
i can't leave the gwd or ill lose my kc sry
havent had lunch yet
its ok its in 2 hours you dont have to leave yet
youve never had lunch before or do you mean just today
i will have lava chicken for lunch
b0aty 73
i dont like to watch boaty hes rude
why does skilling take so long i just want to do the new quest why why ill be here two weeks just getting the requirements
im chunklocked
Well this is certainly a recipe for disaster
i have had lunch before just not in awhile
I want my dragon slain, too.
i think one day i can kill the maggot king if i try i just need the stats and gear
faggot king more like maggot king
i dont car sorry
>>574909682who are you replying to
*mocking voice* who are you replying to
posts a picture of a really nerdy guy
if i go to the cosmic altar through the abyss can i get to zanaris that way i threw away my dramen staff since i didnt think id need it
no u r locked out of zanaris forever sorry
not playing this game til they make tob soloable and cox more soloable
update im in time to merc these zygomites
>>574912421see>>574912251
>>574912116You can just go to entrana and make a new staff, mate
well clearly thats not something i want to do otherwise i would have done it
i dont need a draman staff
would you play the game if we did more osg tobs
Well fuck you then
me?
>>574912786>>574912868>>574912947>>574913008who are you guys talking to
>>574913031we are the voices in your head
Daily varodvis killloot: food dropsstarted 2nd kill but from the start it was doomed since he spawned a briar on the center tile where I dodge followed by axes deciding to spawn every time where I was standing. you cant even be that mad when the 5th axe decides to pop under you in a row.
briar lol what are you some kind of monk
New YouTube series idea: chudlockedYou have to say something chuddy every 30 minutes in a populated area without getting banned.
its a thorny fuck innit so brier it is
She ripped out my heart like a briar from Skyrim
>mod north actually plays the gameHoly based mod chud
im thinking of making my own hot sauce
ooooo lawd this perect maggot king CA is PISSING ME OFF
>>574915489Just get the zcb specs BONDIE
>>574914318Did the previous CEO not?
>i dont want pvm stuff from pvp wahhh i need to get the pvp item i need the hecking dragon pickaxeReddit being insufferable
>no hallowed sepulcher changes today
>>574914318
>>574914318this is actually pretty cool.
yeah im thinkin these changes are based
Im getting new record times now with t2 now cg is comfy
>>574891747I don't think anyone sits there enjoying resets until a 6% ruby bolt proc happens. Then you zcb spec + do another spec with pot right after and hope RNG favors you. It also ends up being ''buy all megarares + zcb''.
#slayer #updateim currently 27.2% of the way to my slayer goal before i retire from skilling permanently i think i might achieve it this weekend
>>574918506What is your goal?
>open 4chan>see redditoh boy
>>574919068
>>574901714Bad. It sets a precedent of unpolled easyscape changes. >>574902723Because the 1/400 droprate is ass. The 95% spread is too large. Even if you get it spooned you probably need another couple 100 of kc since bowfa without armor seeds isn't that good.If you can grind doom 1-7 do that instead. Confliction gauntlets + eye mogs bowfa in raids. >>574918917merching clans, the update was announced months beforehand.
>>5749191413t eye sucks at enrage warden because your will be missing ticks
>>574902813i dont understand this
erm how do i kill tormented demons
>>574920157Same way you kill demonic gorillas
>>574919141Merch clans died, desu i wish they came back because it would be absolutely funny watching bondies lose their shit if things like prayer potions or restores hit 80k per
tonight is the night i get 99 agi
>>574919068if it makes you feel any worse, it's a twitter repost as well
125m agility can i get a gz
holy gz
>>574921936gzgz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bDz2MZWKlMthread theme
the official linux jagex launcher is kind of poopwhy the hell do i have to log in through the browser each time
sigh...
Done
>>574922530Sweet. gz
why does youre game look so weird mine doesnt look like that mine looks normal
>>574922642 who are you talking to
>>574922530i HIGHLY doubt you glogged at that kc mlady
maybe ill go back to cg to see how the changes are
remember the girl in the macdonalds fry basket
i cant let these logs get to me im more spooned everywhere else FUCK YOU GUYS
>have to kill 125 chompys for medium diaryfucking hell
>>574923778Remember there's no reason to skin them as you can't get the pet before completeing the elite diary
>>574924020thanks bro, i think that's what took too much of my time for the easy diary.
>>574920098yah that's fine. The DPS without losing ticks is miles ahead if you land an ayak spec to drain the 20 def.
HOLY FUCK 0 TICK LOSSthe floor tile hits are a lie it counts after hunllef dies
>>574924020i thought you had to skin them too LMAO i did elite diary while skinning them
>>574924510get a life
>>574924125npnp>>574924660Ah that sucks lolol
live your life
>>574922146there's an official one for Linux? I've used bolt launcher on flatpak for years with no issue. Prob should switch to official but mine let's you have multiple jag accounts at once
>>574925545yeah, they just released it last week
Linux tech tips
>>574925202i have one maybe get good at the game instead of projecting your insecurities LOSER
>>574925659looks interesting but I'll wait until its out of beta
>>574926545beast
>>574926618yeah i gave it a try but went back to bolt
I am a helmie and i am mentally ill does that make me special?
>>574924510Good shit, don't let these noobs get to you
sometimes i sit in cg lobby and listen to house md t heme music.....that is so me........
>>574924510Whats the name of that plugin
>>574924020Prayer experience
>>574927496autogauntlet v1.2
>>574927496gauntlet performance tracker
I'm total level 1300 and I've never fought a single boss in this gameGive me a reason why I should
>>574928107clogging
test
>>574928107Stick to AFK woodcutting, lil bro
>>574928107Fun
feelin cute choppin teak logs desu
>>574928565*walks up next to you and grabs you're breast*hello there little lady
>>574921053they're really chapping my ass
im gaming
>>574928624I can't feel anything through my bronze plate armor
I don't even know what CG is and im almost total 1700 on my iron
are we allowed to post unrelated anime images ITT?
>>574929587Wuddup gaynas
>>574929964I'm almost 85 mining and I'm 50 hours into my New Vegas playthrough.
she's kinda cute...
>>574922146why would anyone ever use linux all i ever hear about that os is complaints and how nothing works lmao
>>574930980Incidentally this is all I hear about Windows 11
>>574930980code monkeys tend to make their job the center of their personal identities, and the obnoxious autists also have a massive ego about it for some reason. So using a shit operating system that makes their life harder is all just part of the act (because they believe that other people are incapable of using it, when in reality, normal people just realize that it's a pointless hassle for retards)
the gauntlet speed ca is gonna make me crash out fr fr
I'll try cachyos or mint or something when windows 10 support ends but 10 just works for now
>>574930980>>574931468linux isn't actually hard to use at all
>>574931679did anybody here say it was?
>>574931679It is if your IQ is room temp
Windows 10 is just plug and play. I've heard cachyos and mint are similar idk about other Linux distros
>>574931468So they're irons basically
>>574931468no its just 4chan autists. when i started working in dev i thought that i would be surrounded by other socially maladapted people whove been programming since they were 12 but it was full of regular people who got into tech from university and most of them had families and they had hobbies like rock climbing and cycling, my team lead was an iraq veteran. personally i use macos, desktop linux is actually used by posers because they want to be seem like they are smart but they cant program so they chose a shitty os where they have to change configs and shit to make it look like they know technical stuff
>>574932841and yeah also most people i know at work just use mac or windows i dont know anyone who unironically uses linux unless they have to use it for work on a server
Linux is often used by those who value privacy because that's a value they hold or because they're criminals
yeah I use Windows 11 with all telemetry and AI options enabled
practically everyone I've ever met who uses Linux turns out to be a pedophile
watching you techlets seethe about linuxchads reminds of that based efficiencyscaper who shut down this thread for hours because he used fremmy boots to shave ticks off his agility grind
>>574933279Actual pedophile or just loli stuff
>>574933449its the same thing gaynas..
>>574933489Not him and it isn't.
>>574933489it very much is not
guess which one i play osrs on
273 laps to 99
>>574933745Android 11
73 more laps and my boyfriend said he'll fill my holes
thats nice merii
>>574933979stfu tranny
>bro civilization bad and we like need to return to vampyrium Dude did nothing wrong
>Accidentally beat the shit out of my subjects in MiscellaniaWhoops.
what's the best panda express meal I can get to improve my forestry and MLM grind?
>>574934737many are saying this
I like watching runescape streamers while I play because it makes me feel like I have friends
do people actually use the hdos client?
i like to pretend to be a streamer and talk to an imaginary chat
>>574934737>my fellow vampires, i need you all to start killing and raping each other so that we can go back to living in huts in our native shithole and killing and raping each othergenius
where's the fishing equivalent to motherlode minemlm is comfy and I can do it for hours. fishing on the other hand puts me to sleep and I get frustrated after 1 hour.
yo those ff14 loony troon halcy ahh niggas stole our fucking image >>574934920
Im doing forestry and some ironwomen are discussing which gameplay guides they're following. Vile human filth.
Is Jagex boosting madseason's RNG? Seriously, what the fuck:>Scurrius pet at 112 kc: ~3.7%>Pheonix pet at roughly 1200 reward pulls: ~22.1%>Barrows greenlog at 508 kc: top 0.14% (5th percentile is ~752 kc)>(member's episode) Bottomless bucket at 1 kc: ~2.86%
>>574937512
D4VD's House Was Full of Blood...
>>574937754yes, they think it's going to bring players from wow (it won't)
>>574937954looks like the blood moon rosed
I think they should give mains the options to become irons whenever they want
>>574937512karambwans assuming you have the fish barrel and a crafting cape or similarly good bank teleport. it's like 3mins of afk, and about the same xp as mlm.
i dont get people saying madseason is stupid for not knowing how to make a necklace with bronze wire like who the fuck would ever guess that shit
i think if the item icon for bronze wire wasnt like a spool it would be easier to connect the dots
yeah and also using a chisel on a sword pommel to make beads isn't very clear either
I tried watching 5 minutes of the 1st episode of the madseason guy but he edits his videos like a gay retard so I stopped watching. I think the content is probably appealing to redditors though
>>574939775For me the appeal is just watching an autist play the game like a champion. Agree though, wish he didn't repeat retarded jokes and edit in stupid sound effects.
im going to become a bronze whenever i want
>>574939775I like his videos for the autism but yeah he is not very funny or charismatic
>>574934737He was basically preaching the vampyre equivalent of "return to monke". Really, he was just too scared to cross the Salve and play vampyre hard mode.
drakan was weak as fuck he was beaten by a human who isn't even the strongest human in gaynor
>>574940535Who the fuck is stronger than me? I raped King Arthur's court singlehandedly.
>>574938049>they think it's going to bring players from wow (it won't)it already didguzu came to oldschool because of madseason and everyone after came because of guzu
>>574940535Reminder Drakan wasn't even the highest ranking vampyre in the Zarosian Empire lol, Chadorvis was
the breakfast
>>574940759soulus delgar can hit 150 with ice barrage so he can 1 shot the player
are burning claws still better than voidwaker at vard?
>>574941575you should real dial back the soda champ, that pancreas isn't getting any younger.
>>574941586I would've just used Protect from Magic lol
When are we getting a 4th combat style? Why don't we have summoning for beasts of burden yet?
>>574942147Because summoning was always gay and we don't need a 4th combat style.
https://runescape.wiki/w/Expansive_pouch#Processwhen is jagex adding this to osrs
>>574939775I like his videos. It's interesting how he hasn't watched other people play but he ended up making your typical ironman prog videos anyways. That's the thing about this game. It's like how no matter how good or bad you are everyone knows that you want to find Skilling spots as close to a bank as possible.
>>574938049His Barrows luck was incredible. I reviewed his first Barrows video, and for the first 16 chest opens he did not kill all the brothers. At least one chest he didn't even kill any brothers.And yet, he rolled 48 uniques (over 50% more than you'd expect) AND greenlogged. His luck for Barrows alone is between of 1/1000 to 1/2000Then he's severely spooned nearly every other unique. Even with conservative estimates, his combined probability is in the ballpark of one in 250 million.Obviously there are hundreds of thousands of players. But... if he gigaspoons another pet then I'll be all but convinced.
>>574941879A life without coke isn't a life worth living.
>>574937754you will get tons of spoons throughout the playthrough of an account and on average you will get just as many unspoons
>>574942461It's incredibly tedious to get and of course you won't get it until long after 99.
>>574942461osrs would benefit so much from post-99 skilling grinds that actually do things
>>574942461>When attempting to unseal the pouch, a large RuneSudoku puzzle will appear. Players must solve it to obtain a bottomless expansive pouch.why tho
does anyone know if the 'fans are any good
>>574943686Nah that's a crazy ad
>>574943212Just play rs3 at this point. I still can't believe how you people don't even mention deaths office anymore.
>>574943686im told mod trident risked it all for her so they must be good
>>574943686She knows her audience
>>574943871i have no idea what you're talking about
Uhhhhhh chat is this real?
>>574944057https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Death%27s_OfficeIf your items don't drop on death are u really playing RuneScape?
Has anyone actually seen a lucky impling? Ive only seen it like twice
>>574944253I caught one once and got some dogshit from it.
>>574944226i mean i dont know who you people are or why deaths office would be of particular interest to them
>>574944106>wave scoutingzero respect whatsoever
>>574943686Nah, most basic shit.
>>574944430They changed the death mechanics in osrs to be exactly the same as the base game which 'ruined everything's and you don't see a problem with that? It's against the spirit of playing the game like it was in 07. They even extended it to an hour death timer and still they made it even easier. Yet it's just accepted. You're all fake fans, secondaries even.
hmmm should i kill maggot king until i get a unique, or go do doom or yama?
>>574944106>all those plugins>logging outlame
>>574944885idk, do you need anything from doom or yama
>>574945029from doom i need eye-ACK and from yama i need 2 oathplate pieces and the horn if thats something ppl need
Welp, looks like Ill do some blast furnace tomorrow, to get my smithing up.
do you guys know what ayak is an acronym for?
>>574945321it's the eye of a yak, like the ones in Neitiznot
ch ch ch ch cherish johns posts
>>574944835Games being balanced around "spirit" and "nostalgia" is asinine. OSRS is not RS2 or whatever it was in 2007>You're all fake fansI hadn't heard of runescape until like 2019 and didn't start playing until 2023. But I love the game and that makes me a fan
im not an osrs "fan" a "fanatic" im an osrs enjoyer
>>574945542fuck you
girls is it bad to improve your game
>>574941349guzu doesn't even play anymoreall the wowtubers were paid to playjagex thought they would get addicted and stay for the community but they all fucked off as soon as the checks stopped comingpreach admitted that jagex paid him to try sailing so there's no change those others weren't getting paid, especially considering how abruptly they fucked off
>>574946134Are madseason and sardaco the only ones left
>>574946134you are somehow ignoring the thousands of people who watch those guys and tried the game out and are still playing
>>574942628just look at sardaco, tbow on his first cm. jagex literally sends these faggots care packages and fly them around the world and we're supposed to believe they're not getting the stella boost. it's disgusting really.
>>574946316
why is the wiki like this?
>have massive influx of new players >don't update the game for 8 months >raise membership priceswell done
I kind of hate how the highest tier of trawling net has rune/ironwood and looks out of place next to the dragon/rosewood stuff. also best way to get nails is still task frost dragons right? the 600 for hull is so far away still lol
Sophie Rain and Nick Fuentes are dating
>>574946873if you are doing slayer slop task skipping the best is just going for wyrms and frosties, you also should get a get bunch solely from the 5 storm bottles 2 dragon cannons and 2 dragon hooks
>>574937754i got bottomless bucket on my 1st kc
>>574947460yeah i got all those, even stayed at vamp kraken for the last few large keels so I didn't have to use anything on it but still only have like 10 nails and 2 sheets left after actually upgrading everything
>>574944593there's probably less than 5 people who could do it without wave scouting.
>>574948007?? under what circumstances?
seriously why is there no fairy ring in the stupid jungle? there was one in rs3
THE SOUL REAPER AXE IS GOING TO GO UP MORE, RIGHT?
i got bottomless bucket on my first ge
merches always abuse the hype and crash things on or the day before launch
finna milk a cow ya feel me
moo
TIER 1 ONLY HELMIE
im gonna merch rwtd gold
>>574937512monkfish
The first rare, LETS FUCKING GOOOOO.
My ultimate ironman got the bucket in 3
>>574949610congrats, kc?
>>574938914yeah I dont get that eitherbut when you say he is stupid for not talking to npcs or clicking the massive obelisk in the city to see what it says or does you get murdered
did king arthur camelot? why is it called camelot?
>>574949993Thank you! Around 1300
>>574950198shit, nice. earned for sure
>>574950073naaah bro u too funny ahah you belong in a comedy club frfr
so how is madseasonshow going to do tob
>>574951673hes going to the meriitob
thanks to the anon last thread who posted the madseason episode
>>574952091yw
>>574951673you can solo entry mode
i'm sorry u had to see that gnost... i can't help but match the energy when someone gets uppity like that...
>>574953501you went pretty hard when he wasnt even really arguing back. just my perspective
nice
i know nobody cares but rs3 genuinely hurts my soul (if the soul even exists its not really provable). like, this shit has gotten PAINFUL anxiety and stress inducing. i cant do it i wont do it anymore. not even a meme. its just not fun. im quitting it for good right now FOREVER. never touching it again. there's nothing to be gained from it. its like retail wow. its soulless uninspired bland predatory. ive had ENOUGHim taking a massive break from mmos in general and fomo bullshit.i will come back to osrs at some point as a bronzeman, hcim, and uim. and i will earn my bonds from scratch. no handouts. i will grind the f2p hill giant bosses on the bronzeman and sell them for gp and gradually fund my bond empire on all accounts. true free to play. at least in theory.i just need a fucking break bro its not even a meme playing soulless games will actually break you. rs3 genuinely feels disrespectful to human beings.
>>574953778i respectfully disagree, i just type more but he kept trying to jab at mei could be the bigger man and ignore it but that will just reinforce his bad attitude so nty
stupid clams not showing up
ok thats enough what the fuck. this shit
>>574954808Why do you need to grind for bonds? Don't you have a job?
>>574955378i dont like money as a concept anymore. it feels more honest to start out in f2p and work my way up to members. makes it feel earned.
>>574955441do you have gp on rs3 side? Members in rs3 used to carry over to osrs
>>574955352you got spooned armour sneeds man take those out
>>574955441you have to play multiple accounts like a full time job to upkeep bonds. this is masochistic behavior, don't do it. you're not proving anything to anyone>>574955742dude look at this fucking log my shits broken
>>574955775
>>574955865holy fuck LOL
>>574955890naw but fr the clog lies alot of those seeds were from lms
>paying for membsis this a helmie thing?
i dont even like osrs anymore either desu maybe its time to just quit rs entirely. they say u cant but i mean u really can. games do get boring.
>>574955775>you have to play multiple accounts like a full time job to upkeep bonds.watThey are 12 mil-14mil, 6-7 hours of a modest money making method over 14 days on a single account is not a full time job.
ok bro if you gonna quit gimme ur shit
>>574955775I have never spent a penny on osrs in my life. you can literally buy a bond after 3 hours of pickpocketing elves.
bro we get it you like pickpocketing elves
have you nigs tried to play a helmie and like play the game and sell the dupes for bonds?
>>574956343>>574956489learn to fucking read niggers. he is talking about doing it on free to play, that is beyond retarded. you are far better off getting a job for a week and then buying membership for a year. actually, get a job and dont buy membership at all and then stop posting here. thank me later
well i may just make a main only and just grind bonds on it. i dont really NEED to play every mode. im at the point where im just trying to have fun again. all these fucking modes and shit. i dont even need iron. plus it might be fun to pvp and actually pick up the loot.
if the swolebenji the great couldnt handle upkeeping a bond what makes you think you can? just get a job dude
>>574956728You said "upkeep bonds", that implies a repeated use of bonds, i.e. not in free to play past the first one.
oh my god its all mentally ill trans im going to sleep you're just baiting me jesus christ
>>574956870the same thing applies, the only reason you find it easy to upkeep bonds is because you arent constantly pouring all of your gp into progressing and upgrading your gear and shit. he's talking about starting out fresh and trying to keep bonds going while progressing at the same time. that isnt fun, it's pure masochism
>>574956958I literally did that 2 years ago when I started playing again. got an f2p bond, and have maintained membership ever since then. It wasn't even difficult to maintain the very first member's bond, I literally just did herb runs and birdhouses.
>>574957063and you: played the game like a full time job. thanks for proving my point
you have to be retarded to think herb runs and reddit houses are "full time job"
>>574957104I did the literal most efficient method of hunter training until 80, and herb runs every few hours whenever I was playing. It's not like I did them 24/7 to the exact minute.
>stuck on more than 20+ loops than teeth afor yearswhy does this happen
>>574956728Oh no, only 4 times as long to get that initial bond.To then it becomes trivial to upkeep. Shit if you are starting from scratch, you should be weaving High alch in between everything you can for magic xp any way.
>>574956958I did exactly that to start my account, had enough for my first bond over a single weekend. The gear demands and progress you can make in free to play is virtually non-existent to begin with.Then you get into members and my post then applies. ~6 hours in 14 days of play time.
swolebenji swolebenji swolebenji
>>574957727>trivial to upkeep.uhhhI dont think spending 3 hours for 14 days of membership is trivial
https://youtu.be/HMj-x4oJYgU
>>574957983this better be a swolebenji video
Me I 0-time my bonds by playing the game
>>574958093>Me I get carried through tob where the game literally shits loot all over my face
>>574958183why cant you do that?
>>574958236Because I don't want to join voice with trannies
>>574958254I dont vc and none of the people I play with have said anything about being trannies
>>574958326Congrats
>>574958371hf doing birdhouse runs and herb runs for bonds I guess
>>574957978If you are playing the game for such a short period of time over the 2 weeks where 3 hours isn't trivial, then spending $250 a year is equally as stupid.
>>5749586143 hours of my time is worth like $100 at the minimum
>>574958702>200 dollars lost a day sleepinghow you can you sleep like this knowing this
>>574958702Clearly not, as you are spending it playing runescape to begin with.
>>574958841you cant honestly be comparing throwing away 3 hours pickpocketing that you gain nothing back for because you give away all your gains to pay for overpriced bonds to sleeping right
>>574958893yeah I play for fun and get to do what I wantI dont have to do slave labour for 3-6 hours (it is more like 6+ hours since most moneymaking methods are 1-2m/h) for overpriced bondsyou dont get to cope over falling for the bond meme by nouing me like this
>>574958506I have a job and I pay jagex for my membership
bonds are landlord-coded
>>574959051>yeah I play for fun and get to do what I wantYeah, so do I you clown.Those 6+ hours spread over the 14 days are literally part of natural gameplay.
140 dollars a year is perfectly reasonable for a game i play every dayhow much do you spend on dinner dates or concerts or carry out
>>574959108I have a job and still make enough gp passively to not worry about buying bonds so I save my irl gp
>>574959260>Those 6+ hours spread over the 14 days are literally part of natural gameplay.it is not natural gameplay wtfyou give away all your gainsbondies (literal) are insane
>>574959290>I have a job and still get carried through tob enough to not worry about buying bondsI know
>>5749579783 hours is 0.6% of 14 days. And like I said earlier, most of the early game money makers ALSO train skills you have to train anyway. Birdhouses are the most efficient way to train hunter in the game, herb runs are the only method of farming training that doesn't cost money and in fact makes money.
>>574959452so why dont you do this?
>>574959595>>574958254
>>574959682>>574958326
>>5749594563 hours (dishonest estimate) of paying moderately high attention to the game is that entire days budget of attention and energy wasted on stuff external metagame stuff
>>574959761>>574958371
idk what kind of brainwashing was done to make people think spending an entire day to upkeep membership is normalit is like spendings hours doing online surveys for $1 or something
>>574959826So if you are unable to get in tob teams, theres a bunch of other goals you could be chasing that give you dupes to buy bonds with.
also if you have 10b from pvm or getting lucky at treasure trails this obviously does not apply to you and you are in a pretty unique situationI just thought I should add that
>>574959392If you are making less than 1 mill a day, are you even playing the game? The game shits out money through every skill you dolt.
>>574948506Yes.
>>574959991how did you know how much my bond acc has
>>574959947I could easily buy bonds, I choose not to
>>574959992>The game shits out money through every skill you dolt.if you do high effort skilling surebut if you spend that on bonds you are throwing away whole days because you threw your energy for that day out the window
have you ever infiltrated the pakistani gold farmers before
>>574960094thats alright I guess. Idk how I got into a cycle with you when the convo was about getting members through ingame means
>>574960097>High effort skillingaka playing the game.You spend real life money to not do the thing that you are buying, are you retarded?
>>574960437>aka playing the game.you are not really playing the gameyou are working for the privilege of later playing the gameif you were playing the game you would get to keep your rewards
so *clears throat*have you nigs tried to play a helmie and funding your members through the dupes you get? tha way it doesnt feel like working for them cause the gp is meaningless when it sits on your bond acc
>>574960437at the end of the day if you>buy bonds for membership>dont have a shitload of gp so you have to earn gp continuously to upkeep your bondsyou are essentially filling out surveys for pennies
>>574960115Google consanguinity world map and check pakistan lmao.
>>574960504No, I'm playing the game for zero investment, you are throwing your money at Jagex to not play their game. You are objectively a moron.
ngl if the choice was between surveys and herb runs I'd do the herb runs. But also I'd work towards a better moneymaker asap cause herb runs can't be that good
>>574960719botting invalidates your claims so there is that
>>574960617Working for pennies still comes out ahead compared to throwing your money away.
the bondie upkeep mindset has to be some kind of brainrot sorry not sorry
do you think swolebenji would have enjoyed osrs more if meriipu had carried him through tob on her iron so he could afford bonds?
so meriipu is the reason swolebenji hated osrs when you think about it
>>574960957this does not even make senseyou are throwing away leisure time by having to "work" instead of play for fun to upkeep bondsif you actually find upkeeping bonds fun in some twisted way then go ahead but otherwise this feels like mental gymnasticsat the end of the day members is a p2p monthly subscription mode first and foremost
>>574961063I guess if the bond feels anything like upkeeping supplies for irons, it might feel like an "ingame goal" to work towards?
>>574961063You think playing the game is a chore.You think actively doing anything other than afk is "high effort"Yet you still give Jagex money.You are a moron, plain and simple.
>>574961316>You think playing the game is a chore.playing the game if you have to give away all your gains? yeah you basically threw away everything you worked towards
>>574961465You literally see the game as work.You pay Jagex to work.You are a moron.
>>574961649as opposed to doing moneymaking once to pay for a bond and then having to do the same thing all over again to earn gp?
I also have you pegged as a botter so there is that but I admit I might be wrong in that assumption
For a main, your account progress is basically gp, so buying bonds with that is negative account process and that feels bad.But if you're very late game and just sitting doing raids all day, then it's likely pittance and makes perfect sense to sustain your membership like that. If you specifically have to go out of your way to make bond money, you probably shouldn't.
>>574961857omg this anon gets it
>>574961734If you actually play the game, you make far more than required to keep the bond up without any effort what so ever.You spend real life money to afk and thus do not realise this. You are objectively a moron.
I play the game when I want to and I do something else when I don’t want to
>>574961857>negative account process and that feels badSo you should never use any item that requires an upkeep then.Never train ranged, mage, or spend money on skills? Just amass gp, because that's progress, right?
>>574962375you are being really dishonest here
>so i was right and the melee punish no longer works by just clicking the body of the bossoh no no no
>>574962397No, that's essentially your point. Don't spend gp because that's the mark of progress. In reality there's absolutely no difference between using a powered staff or any other gear that requires upkeep and buying a bond.
>>574962518bonds are not part of the gamethey are a goldsink for people in extraordinary situations
>>574962375>So you should never use any item that requires an upkeep then.>Never train ranged, mage, or spend money on skills?That's spending charges and resources on other forms of account progress.In a very twisted and unhelpful way you can say that "even having access to the game" is "account progress", but we all know that's not the same thing.You could have some 200 total level shitter, spending hours upon hours picking up fish food in draynor manor or whatever to sustain their bond, but we all know they're not progressing their account.>Just amass gp, because that's progress, right?For a main, pretty much. gp underpins basically everything for them.
>>574962671>You could have some 200 total level shitter, spending hours upon hours picking up fish food in draynor manor or whatever to sustain their bond, but we all know they're not progressing their account.>For a main, pretty much. gp underpins basically everything for them.Which is it you fucking moron.
>>574962816I really think you're just acting wilfully retarded here.
>>574962647>they are a goldsink for people in extraordinary situationsYou are a low IQ moron who struggles to make money in a game that throws it at you hand over fist. Playing the game in a natural way will easily upkeep the bond across a weekend, let alone if you play daily for the 14 days.
>>574963101>Playing the game in a natural wayyou mean playing it like a subscription game doing what you want instead of being forced to throw away hours of your life earning gp you wont ever see again?bonds are a gacha mechanic forced upon the game by investors so the rest of the game can remain as close as possible to the intended vision and keep the investors satiated
nutty bodied those bondie incel freaks
>>574962989>Make a post that is inherently contradictory>Claim the person pointing it out as retardedLow IQ moron.
>>574963285t. spends $500 a month on various streaming services and onlyfans but draws the line at runey membership
>>574963207You are a poor person, worrying about fake money in a video game; while throwing away real money to actively avoid playing a video game.It's such a bizarre concept.
I got league to launch by reinstalling it and restarting my PC now I can lux supp while I do motherlode mine
>>574963387Weird projection, zoomer.Both of those things porn and tv shows are free.Only your generation thinks you have to pay for that shit.
>>574962420whats the issue here?
Doing: My daily 50 sireListening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc1lc2_Z-f0Man, a lightbearer would be nice for this shit.>>574963285Okay, I'll be very explicit for your dumb fuck brain that doesn't seem to understand basic concepts.Account progress =>- Stats- Combat achievements- Collection logs- Or whatever the fuck you want to doBut also importantly- Gear- ResourcesFor mains, since these are trivially buyable with gp, they can be considered the same thing, so how much your bank is worth is an important measure of account progress.I could go do ToA, get a shadow and be up 900m of "gp account progress".I could also AFK blood runes for literal months and get 900m, and be in exactly the same place in terms of gp account progress (ignoring runecraft xp and clogs).Dropping 12m on a bond does nothing for your account progress, and in fact reduces it. Wasting time specifically on earning gp to then spend on a bond does nothing for your account progress.
>>574964026Yes, but that person picking up fish food is making money and thereby progressing his account, by the exact same metric someone going into ToA and getting a shadow is progressing his account, one is just doing it at a much faster rate. What people then choose to spend it on is irrelevant.That same person could have just been shit at ToA, wasted millions in supplies and not got lucky. Using your own logic, no-one should spend any gp on supplies on going to ToA, or anywhere for that matter, because that can result in negative account progress; despite there being a clear benefit for doing so.
>>574964609>making moneyonly if you are putting it to actual gameplayif you are putting it to bonds not so much
>>574964609>but that person picking up fish food is making money and thereby progressing his accountThe noob started with 100k and then ended with 100k, no account progress was made, just a bunch of time spent and continued access to the game for another 14 days (which itself is not account progress).My god, why do I have to explain something so retardedly simple? Maybe you just have some kind of extreme autism and hyper fixate on a single point and not consider the whole context around it.
>>574964996Putting it into bonds and having access to 99% of the game, is objectively the greatest use if you are going to use "actual gameplay" as a metric.
>99 fishing>98 farming>99 Firemaking (all at 'todt)>90 WC>~20k chins caught>no pets>randomly just got the thieving pet at 79It's never the one you expect...
>>574965096at the end of the day it is a p2p game and bonds are not the intended way to play the game
>>574965117>talk to it>canonically gaywtf it's a raccoon, why
i just play the game, bank value go up, then i get free membs. i don't think about how many real world hours i would need to work to not play the game. that's a weird helmie thing i guess.
>>574965047You are conveniently ignoring the second part of the post. Is it wise to go into ToA without supplies? Do you not realise that everything has an upkeep cost associated with it? Bonds are literally no different.
>>574965434bonds are a goldsink and not something you are meant to work for
>>574965434Damn, resources cost money.What a shock.
this nigga doesn't know what a gold sink isare construction and prayer not something you're meant to work for?
>>574965564and a bond is a resource, you dolt.
>>574965754first of all it would not be sane to go for a 10-20gp/xp strategy if you dont have the gp for it and you would be better off using the slower but cheaper training methodsand second of all you are still progressing your account by using gp on constructionunless you get enjoyment out of the gp making method in its own right and you dont care about the gp at all it is foolish to spend 6 (or more) hours of moderate effort for a meager 14 days of membership
>>574966185to add on thisit makes sense to work towards earning gp for a big item or gear or xp or other progress because this is all part of the gameit does not make sense to offset that by having to throw away gp for the right to THEN be able to start earning gp to progress your accountthis was never how the game was intended to be played
>>574965434the difference is that when you spend money on resources and use them your account is at a different point at the end.So simply:starting point -> farm money for bond -> buy bond -> again at starting pointvsstarting point -> buy resources -> do toa with resources -> now at starting point + loot and xp and better skill from toa
making gp is the main gameplay of a bondiethe issue with that is that you make max gear so quickly and run out of things to doby spending a little on the side on bonds you extend the lifetime of the game
>>574966185Again, I have to circle back to this.>>574963406Hyper fixation upon efficient use of virtual currency while objectively throwing away real currency is pure absurdity.
>>574966185if i buy spend gp on bonds, i get membs, i play the game, i am progressing my accountit's virtual gold. it's not worth anything to me. i'm going to swipe a credit card just to keep a little bit of it. but you do you.
now faggots are saying that it's ok to buy bonds for gold because you might not have enough time to play.imagine hearing that 2005, what next? it's ok to buy xp lamps because you don't have time to play?fuck i hate casuals.
>>574966448I dont like the term but it is moreof a "poor mindset" to use unintended workarounds to skip the p2p subscription and have to add extra steps that you have to do before you get to play the game as it was intended
>>574966530First of all, it's clearly intended. Bonds were created explicitly for a single purpose; to provide membership.Secondly, the game was created and intended to be a free game; reality set in once it grew and they could no longer afford the server costs and then introduced a membership.You are a zoomer and this was before your time. Don't speak about what was intended.
>>574966829>Bonds were created explicitly for a single purpose; to provide membership.to provide membership as a gold sink to people with excess gp with nothing to spend it onnot for people without gp to constantly slave towards
it's so funny how good treatment jagex gave to the wow players and right after they just said "yeah fuck this game lol xd" and lefthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeU_wN7ZZIg
>>574918917holy low iq.this is probably the same type of nigga that bought planks and sailing mats at their peak before release thinking that the price will go up when everyone already bought what they needed.
in a different universe where podcast anon was not a sellout we would have a smasher of a podcast of this thread
>>574966915this nigga hasn't played in 8 months and they flew is ass to england? i'm dead
bloodmoon quest rewards were pretty shit compared to other GM quests ngl.
>>574966915Time has made it clear that these people really are just soulless husks, going whichever way the wind blows. Following the trend of the month that'll get them views (ie money), then moving onto the next trend, no truthful expression of interest or identity at any point.Streamers are genuinely subhuman, the only lower form of life are those that, for some God forsaken reason, actually give these "people" money.
just moved to taverlyit's so comfy there
i heard taverley has a lot of hippies.
>>574967503Majority of streamers have narcissism and are unpleasant. They deserve to get so much more harassment than they currently receive. Every one of these subhumans deserves a schizo stalker making their lives hell. > giving them money Very bad idea, you don't give a narcissist who doesn't give a fuck about you money ever.
>>574968063doesn't have much of anybody, just weird druidsif you stay the fuck out of their business they'll stay the fuck out of yours
i heard they are crushing "herbs" or something
does anyone know how to make chat background darker in resizable mode? the way that mr mammal has it
people's republic of taverley
>>574968287who? who are you talking to?
>>574968374yay nvm I found it, its a plugin called chatbox opacity.I spent a while looking for it in runelite and ingame settings yesterday and even some other chat plugin settings but it was its own thing desu
>>574963285It's going to get worse with AI models getting better. Straight up copy pasta'ing for every assignment. Schools have been getting worse when it comes to standardized testing as well but it's the only method that can't be cheated easily. >>574958702Clients apparently pay 5x that amount for 3 hours for me. Bonds are made for thirdies were they make 2$ per hour working a job.
>>574968647>>574958702>in which the helmies directly compare leisure time to their slave wage gig and signal their wealth with a $14.99/mo game subscription
>>574969064hey don't bunch all helmies up with thoseI'm a honest bond-buying helmie
>>574969064I really don't get it. damn near everything in the game that will progress your stats make money one way or another. you don't even need to think about it at all to make enough to keep bonds going indefinitely. 12m simply is not a lot of money.
>>574969180my bad g
13m is a lot of money when you realize you have to pay it every 2 weeks not every month
no it's not
Don't say that shit about meriipu. Won't end well for you.
:3
>>574970037gz freak
>>574970037is that a full bludgy for you? gz in any case
>>574970121No it's the first piece. Fortunately the guy can hold onto it until you complete it, so it won't clog up an inventory space.
>>574969828that's like 3 hours of playing to make enough guaranteed.
>>574946795First update that wasn't a temporary mode or sailing changes was blood moon rises. I don't think sailing was a success it's this awkward skill that is detached from the rest of the game much like hunter. The ways you can train it are okay and there are plenty of options it's just that the skill doesn't feed into anything else. The way jagex will do it is by just locking islands and content behind sailing, which is why I voted ''no'' to this skill being implemented.
>>574946671>may I see it Redditors who now want to turn this game into WoW where everything needs to be made extremely easy except for some niche raid content that is there for the sweats. Kind of why WoW is such a garbage shit game, there is stuff to do for the 0.2% who play 10 hours a day and stuff for people who play 1-2 hours a week. The game is a turd for everyone in between.
I will buy the bonds and you can't stop me>>574970670whats the inbetween group, theres a lot of stuff like old raids that are still profitable and dt2 bosses
>Fun Facts about Old School Runscape - Part 6Did You Know: The hissing sound from the Evil Bob random event was sampled off a Metallica song? That's right! If you listen closely at the 0:17 mark, you can hear Evil Bob!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_HSa1dEL9sNow compare that to the sound file on Evil Bob: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/File:Cat_attack.wavPretty cool huh?
>>574971034hey that was a fun fact!
>>574970769I was talking about wow. In WoW the game is fun for people who barely play since you can clear all content, current raid while barely doing anything. Then there isn't much content for the in between and you get a hefty jump in playtime and effort required for mythic raiding. Typically you're also on a treadmill grind that you need to do for the current raid content, this grind then gets invalidated once new content gets released. I haven't played in a long time but in legion you had artefact power which gave your character stats / dps, in BFA you also had this and I think they continued this trend. This just results in people endlessly grinding characters for hours a day, spread across multiple characters for mythic raiders. But all of this is irrelevant if you don't do the top endgame raiding content. Therefore I say the game is made for the two extremes (play a lot of play very little).
>>574971034https://youtu.be/9bgFpss0YFE>>574971327Yea but how do you turn osrs into that with so much stuff to do for everyone, with almost every raid scaling to almost any level? Arguably tob never becomes "very casual" but other than that you have everyone covered. The only ones who can reasonably run out of stuff are the very high end who then do things like speedrun inferno or deep delve. I don't think reddit can pull this one off.
>>574968647>"were they make 2$">calls others thirdiesLol
>>574970448Eh, I was originally was quite a doubter, but I did come around to enjoying a lot of aspects of sailing.There's definitely more potential for better integration with the rest of the game, but they can't really be expected to do it all on launch. Even things like the vampyrium bank was a neat little integration.
>>574972091resorted to pointing out typos and done with trying to pretend actively earning gp for bonds is not silly I see
>>574970037Going for it for raids?
I don't have a stake in your silly bondie arguments, just wanted to point out the irony of a clearly ESL post also complaining about "thirdies"
reeeeeee when you fall off the ardy course
>>574974676Yes. I need to kill araxxor too, so it would be nice if I ended up getting it in this task plus the next one I have stored.
when next raid (not this year)when sepulchre changes
The CG changes are so nice. I actually want to grind out a salad blade now.
>>574972115I think it is overall an enjoyable skill. I guess the integration is it giving the best high level food in the game. I don't think it would've ever matched the sky high expectations. But it's def good enough that I wouldn't mind another skill being made in the future.
>>574976316>when sepulchre changesJagex was really vague for some reason. They were supposed to be the week after the gear rebalance changes (so the 29th), but, the Wyrmscraig thing is on the 29th now.And it's really, really doubtful they'd do both updates on the same day. So maybe 2 weeks for sepulchre
>>574977694bold to assume wryrmdrracut does not get 3-4 weeks if fixes
>>574978964whats there, noob boss, goat hunter and craftingtodt?
>>574979095>crafting minigame>hard requires doing a ton of Hunter>LESS xp/hr than fucking afk blowing glass at a bankbravo jimflex, I'm sure it won't be dead content in 3 hours when everyone has the clog(s) and leavesBoss might be cool though. Goat hunting is pointless for practically everyone, nobody's sailing out there on their low level account for that shit
>>574979258b-but there is a goat pet right? So cloggers will do it for 300 hours
>>574979258>>LESS xp/hr than fucking afk blowing glass at a bankYou're not taking the seaweed and sand bitch work into account.
>>574979432That's true, however the same argument applies to the new method requiring furs and suchAlso are they adding goats to hunter rumors? Because that would completely fuck them up for people and be kind of funny
>>574979432sand bitch work is like 150k+/h isn't itI recall someone doing the numbers and it's effectively over 100k/h accounting for mining the sand
>>574979578Yeah mining sand is decent mining xp, and farming seaweed isn't that big of a deal because there's a teleport RIGHT to it and you only need like ~150 seaweed runs to get 93 (the level to make everything)Glass is fine for those reasons, people exaggerate how big a chore it is to get
>>574979537>requiringI thought it was optional for more xp. Maybe it'll work out with some nice multi-skilling loop, which people tend to underestimate.>>574979578Not every new update has to be meta shattering. Probably going to end up as a new vale totems.
>>574979889I didn't say it has to be meta shattering, I said sand+seaweed strat is completely fine. It was a comfy grind and you get a ton of other stats done you need at that point on your account.
So how is the new boss' 2h sword looking? I can't look at a weapon's stats and just be like "wow that looks good", it's just loads of numbersIts extremely niche use of AoE cleaving mobs is probably worthless, so I just mean mainhanding it in general, wondering if that'll be okay at least
>>574980661sounds like its probably pretty useful for someone who uses (dancing) alts to stack enemies and swings on those
>>574980169Well, now the skill isn't quite as one-dimensional for ironmen.>>574980661>Its extremely niche use of AoE cleaving mobs is probably worthlessThat's literally the whole point. It'll probably fall into some new form of barrage slayer.Stat-wise, it's better than a colossal blade, but worse than a godsword. Very rarely would you want to be main-handing a 6 tick weapon.
>>574981097is the speed mentioned somewhere? it would already be bad for single target If it was a 5-tick weapon.
>>574981097>Stat-wise, it's better than a colossal blade, but worse than a godsword.Now those are terms I can understand, thanks anonI guess it could have a use a punish weapon in that case at least then (TDs, eclipse moon)>>574980820>dancing altsDefinitely even less for me than I was already thinking then
>>574981294It's in the blog.>>574981097>Stat-wise, it's better than a colossal bladeI should also add that this doesn't take the colossal blade's passive into account, so situationally would still end up being worse than it.
i have literally never paid for runescapeback in the original days I just used to catfish weirdos to pay for my subscription
>>574980820I think goading potion slayer, it would work decently well, especially since you aren't as reliant on having everything on the same tile to hit the target cap like with barrage/chins.Maybe a little bit of shimmying around in case everything ends up in a line.
>>574981817you paid with your soul
>>574981817>was catfishing in ~2005How fucking old are you, 50?Why are you posting images of little girls, you weird old man.
>>574981954>more mandatory Mastering Mixology
Oh shit I think I can actually get a quest cape, I have all the stat req->52 sailingoh.
>>574982395you don't have 52 in a skill? you can get 52 in anything in a few hours.
>>574982395Water agility is the quickest way, salvaging is the afk way.
>>574981976soul is stored in the balls and i still have mine
>>574981997>so gay can't understand why someone would post sexy girls
>>574979258What's the difference between requires and hard requires?
>>574984130Hard requirements are that the game physically stops you if your skill level isn't high enough.Soft requirements are those where practically you need a certain skill level to do something but creative gameplay allows them to be bypassed, like with stat boosts or achieving the desired goal through other means.
>>574984130A requirement could be soft, in other words substitutions or bypasses may exist, whereas a hard requirement is actually a built in necessity.Like, a quest could have a hard requirement of 50 Thieving, it absolutely will not start unless you have it. Or it could be a soft requirement, in which case boosting or getting an item through other means might work.In this case, if it was a soft requirement you might be able to do the activity without furs, just less efficiently. A hard requirement means you need to do that hunter.
at this point why even have prep phasethey shouldve just let you pay 5 crystal shards to spawn in hunleff with full inv of fish, 3 t3 weps and t3 armor
>>574987626why are you such a fucking retard? post your cg log
>doingcomfy cg>listeninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVAXvzk8MqQ&list=LL&index=109
>>574963595There is none, that’s the point. Someone crashed out and left cc because he couldn’t just admit that he was messing up the punish and insisted it was brokenIt’s water under the bridge now…
I like the cg changes but it makes t1 feel useless when the time save over making t2 is less than the time lost to eating that or its high skill skewed where it’s better if you redmeption proc and do perfect hun every time
>>574994916well, for once you aren't the biggest faggot involved
is it normal to spend all day or multiple days failing a GM CA?
>>574995379perfect theatre? sure, possibly weeks
>>574995091proc
>>574995627ironic filename considering how the word "gamer" is used nowadays
>>574995309I never am!
>>574982395bait. 52 sailing takes no time at all.
procced the faggot's butthurt effect
>start mining iron for the mining gloves>immediately realize that I could swap the left-click of depleted rocks to "walk here", and set these up to be zero mouse movementHot damn I feel like a genius
>Tfw grinded a saldor + corrupted bowfa and full crystal before the changesEnjoy your grind new blood.
>>574995623rn im failing the doom 1-8 with a shield one, it's cuz im already not good at lvl 8 so needing to do it with a cbow is tough as heck for meive gotten close a couple times tho and luckily this boss's loot isn't all or nothing so im still like getting rolls at uniques as i fail my way through this... it really sucks but it's a nice motivator to just grind out the boss some, although these are very inefficient kills but i'd be doing somethign else otherwise
>>574996650Obsessed!
https://youtu.be/I9ZkFBG66d0Equilibrium gang, we are so back.
debating deleting my characters again and just running one account from now on. a main. one and done. one size fits all. one character. a main on both rs3 and osrs. i don't need more.i've finally realized that ironman actually IS a meme. there's no reason to play it over a main. there never was
>>574997163some real "I had to walk twenty miles to to school, in the rain, uphill both ways!" ass energy there unc..Just be happy that things are better, don't try and brag about how much harder you had it..
>>574999594lgbt individual spotted. better luck next time.
Hardcore chunk locked ultimate Exxxtreme tileman except it's unnoficial and you can trade items and get boosts and RMT achievements.
>>574999578You’re actually right but main is bad too, the late game grinds are just too long on an iron to justify but people will complain if you try to actually fix any issues >160 hour grind for one item>80 hour grind for another single item perfectly reasonable
>>574999924osrs ironmeme is easymode compared to what rs3 iron needs for necro and arch. Osrs has also been designed around B0atyManMode for years now. That mode is what revived the series.
>>574999578Can you post stats and boss kc please
>>574999578Iron was fun until late mid game and especially the wildy stuff but yeah I went back to main.
>>575000052Yeah both are bad what’s your point? That we should keep bad things bad because other things are also bad? The game needs to fix these things but you’ll have 40 year olds complaining that the game is too easy when they don’t interact with 90% of it >>574999924>>574999578It sucks because the progression up is so great up until late game and being a main makes it all mootI think I’m getting too old for video games
>>574981817Who is this tranime girl
>>575000295my point is ironman is not the game and I don't care about their plight.
>>575000336tewi
>>574999578Is this a bit?
Everytime a nigga says their quitting and i ask for their shit they remain silent These niggas too addicted to quit just like a drug addict
>>575000565Stop minimizing him
>>575000565not a bit. ive found that having more than 1 character instantly makes runescape a soulless experience. it's the same fucking game. you're just doing it on multiple characters. so fucking boring, bland, and soulless.and iron is retarded in an mmo its literally an mmo. im going back to the gower vision.
I'm also de-ironing due to the changes to the game as of late. Ironman is a mentally ill game mode for mentally ill players who cry and complain until Jagex gives them advantages that make it easier than just playing a main. And they all cheat, use bots, and buy services. Tired of it.
>>574999578dont delete it just dont play it...
>>575000879i play a uim and all the changes are really fucking gay i hate 99% of people theyre are all allergic to adversity, i play osrs because i want a challenge and pretty much all new updates decrease the challenge of the game, i have 0 fucking clue why they are playing a grind game when they dont want to grind instead of ffxiv or wow or some other shit
>>575000879theyre bondies too cause they bond up mains to keep watch outside wilderness bosses
>>575000761OSRS and RS3 are so far removed from the Gower's vision lmao. You'd be better off playing 2005scape.
>>575001227>NutbladderOpinion discarded
>>575001604im not that anon
>>575001604You are so obsessed lmao
>>575001227no bro uim would've been better off as a limited bank mode like 50 item spaces. having no storage is retarded because death piles will justg et larger and larger untul the mode is unplayable. unironic retarded mode for mentally ill people. it dials it up to such a notch that you are actually a retard if you play uim.
>>575001604>>575001669Yeah there is at least 5 known maxed UIMs in /osg/
>>574999594nta, but>be happy that things are betteris easier always better? I have good memories of doing comfy cg that felt a bit rough around the edges (when there was no indicator for attack style switch) and took a minimal amount of planning around what you found (do I go drop this back at home or..).. the more streamlined it gets, the less variance, planning there is, the more it feels the same every single time.
>>575001731Name one.
>>575001704I'm sure you know this and are just engagement baiting, but 99% of UIMs are not deathpiling at any given time. I would go days, weeks, without doing it, and even then it would usually just be to reshuffle a looting bag, not a longterm thinggenuinely like a few dozen people play with constant deathpiles up acting as banks, that's insane behavior
>>575001008desu u convinced me not to delete my accs. afk the seasonal slop event in rs3 rn on both. thank you friend.i-i actually kinda do like iron i just hate how its not feasible to grind bonds on one directly. desu rs3 pvm gp is INSANE. i've always wanted to get to zammy on here. you can get so many bonds if you actually learn the boss.t. likes rs3.
>>575001704its playable without storage if you dont mind repeating grinds, but people seem to not even consider that as option so they abuse death banks instead
>>575000879Do you ever get tired of making this post?
>>575001815erk is cute
>>575001815Last year the general had an EHP competition (not that anyone tried) where the thread schizo would add any account whose name was ever leaked in the general (he hunted people down through the most obscure details in screenshots and shit)Anyway there is / was a lot of UIM players, eg Shran
>>575001815Meriipu
>>575001495>You'd be better off playing 2005scape.NTA but as a mostly skiller i enjoy a lot of the new pvm stuff, i just dont see the need for the endless xp/h buffs, ezscape, and skilling minigames with dogshit design made for people who will never enjoy the skill anyways
>>575002040Oh I remember that actually. There was another anon (not sure if the same person) who kept a giant ass obsidian vault documenting posters and their relations to others as well
>>575002040>the general had an EHP competitionWe should do that next year, really creates a sense of community knowing that the posts here are actually linked to accounts playing and progressing through the game
>>575001495i will NEVER play any runescape "preservation server"they are literally all trash and ran by an LGBT group. rs classic sucked, 2004scape sucked, 2005scape sucked, 2006scape sucked, 2007scape sucked, 2008scape sucked, 2009scape sucked 2010scape sucked, 2011scape sucked, 2012scape sucked.rs3 and osrs are the best versions of rs. nu-scape won.
i just laged and died now im lagging again my isp is fine tho????????????????
>>575002707>ran by an LGBT group. What a piss poor argument. Even if this were true (it isn't; most staff are 40yo SWE boomers), why would it matter? Do you also refuse to use the majority of open-source software because the dev team once hosted a tranny?There are plenty of reasons not to engage with private servers but to retort to "muh trannies" is just retarded.
>>575003095well that's the reason so maybe i am retarded.
>>575002789get smoked nerdt.your router
Trannies have never developed a single good software.
How many buckets of sand should I mine for 200m crafting? Should be about 1.5m right?
>>575001227>grind gametbf osrs can be pretty cancer about the grindstake it from someone who grinded out an infinity in d2
removal of the max cape would literally fix the game tomorrow, probably half of the players who hate skilling wouldnt go for max if not for the magical cape with 1,000,000 teleport options
:D
>>575004643gz, anon. Hard work pays off
>>575004643gz
>>575003661>with 1,000,000 teleport optionsidk i just make teleport tabs
>>575004643Gzzz
>>574970769why are you so poor
>>575005428hey can i borrow a twisted bow? ill give it back
if you are one of my oomfies yeah you can if you arent one of my oomfies no you cant
>>575005541rsn?
if you have to ask you arent one of my oomfs so piss off groomer freak
can you list your oomfies
>>574978964They either undertune mortimer or completely overtune him. Look carefully the first 3-4 hours if its abuse early and often or complete whack and wait until buffs.
can i borrow your scythe so i can run osg learner tobs this weekend
just logged in
sure pm me rsn midzy
im not a maxed uim but i could have maxed one in the time ive spent getting to 85 smithing (im currently 78)
>>575005428not a mercher and I don't do the best gp/h method s all the time, just honest splits and bondmoney
>>574979578A lot less crafting xp / hr. Crafting xp wise its a bit under charter ship hopping. But this is ironman stuff, you should never do either on a main. >>574980661> Its extremely niche use of AoE cleaving mobs is probably worthlessIt might be worth it for attack / strength xp. Running the calcs it seems way worse than burst spells though. >>575001791It was made to be hard content on par with raid level bosses. That's why you have an easier version of gauntlet and the corrupted one (hard mode). Now Jagex after hearing feedback about how the droprate sucks decided to just EZmode the content instead. Most ironmen complain about the place since you have a 2.5% chance to get the enh seed within 10kc but also a 2.5% chance to not get it within 1470 kc. That's a variance of 200+ hours spend in the gauntlet. This is why it's ass and still is an ass place to farm that no main even wants to touch.
then whyd you include 2 megarares and your cash stack with no other items worth value if you know youre not rich
Zezima would be DISGUSTED at all this easyscape. I mean swap left click... really?
ok that is enough gilliethy today600k xp until 90and then I do 91 for cave boosting at a later date
zezima had like 3 people playing that account, shut your bitch ass up
>>575007080
zezima played against plumbers and 12 year olds back in the day, he couldn't compete in today's world
>>575006701>Crafting xp wise its a bit under charter ship hoppingit was added as an alternative to charter hopping because everyone was doing it and nobody was getting xp>A lot less crafting xp / hrA lot less than what? 100k/hr? Superglass make done perfectly is supposed to be 180k/hr, 150k is a bit more realistic. Then blowing the glass itself is 122,5k/h. You reduce that a bit because of having to mine sand and grow seaweed but how is it a lot less?>the cg stuffI'd be more on board with some kind of dry protection and keeping the content as-is but what can you do.
>>575007394Less than charter hopping on an iron since you need to gather all the reagents. But Idk if you're a main just buy d'hides and do that instead. Its only like 50mill until 99.
reached the big 50 (2 dropped on the floor so they didn't count in the tracker zzz)time for 50 more
Why does every update need to make the game as frictionless as possible? Can we please have more ballbuster grinds like corp?
>>575007927whats charter hopping xp/h? methinks you're wrong.
why are u doing elves theyre not ehp youre meant to be multiskilling artefacts
>>575008147what does that meani'm leveling thieving + working toward max mage. twofer.>not efficient reeeeee!!do not care consume my balls
>>575007394> some kind of dry protectionSome redditors had a huge fit over it and then devs went ''ah ye we just ezscape the content instead of directly devaluing enh seed''. Also now that you can tier 3 prep with 20 fish (lol) so the bossfight became easier than fragment of seren.
>>575007260This but Woox. He wouldn't even be a top 10,000 PvMer today.
i accidentally clicked on the catalog
>>575008337dont really care so much about the value or gp of stuff, but I'd prefer a tiiny bit of friction instead of streamlining everything to the point whereyou are just running there drooling out the side of your mouth no thinking involved
>>575007260And nobody today could compete in the world back then. No runelite, 5 minute logout timer, items lost on death, dangerous random events. They couldn't handle it
verf > gnomonkey
>>575009012no wiki or ge either
gnomonkey is kinda mid and overrated the one thing he pretends hes exceptional at is pvm and even that hes not actually even above average he just plays a lot i wish that people would stop watching him
>>575008471Afraid they will call your waifu a whore?
>>575008572Making the fight easier than zulrah (you do this with t3 prep) will also deflate prices. >>575009383He has GM completed so he's decent. The average in this game apparently is not good enough to clear CG or figure out how the prep phase works. > such a great update, makes it so accessible!! Any mmo that prios accessibility becomes insanely dull to play since that means only 1 or 2 designated ''elite'' bosses (e.g. awakened bosses) are allowed to have any difficulty. The rest will be afk point and click. That's what FFXIV and WoW are like.
i dont remember asking for a cheese capers opinion on my stated fact
>>575010651post ca's
ermim not a cheeser look
they should double the damage and health of all bosses fuck low levels
they should make the game impossible to play so only two retards can complete it
>>575010651>WoWI've never heard my friends that play wow complain about >le accessabilityThey always complain about the new systems and daily bullshit. My friend that played classic complained about raids being locked to only a few attempts a week or something, so you'll be doing fuck all for a week until you can raid again.
>>575008113Something like 65-70k with lenses and 75-80k with bulbs from what I remember when I was charter hopping but that was years ago. > Superglass make done perfectly is supposed to be 180k/hYou need to be playing like this guy for an hour straight lmao. Had to look it up since didn't believe it was possible, sweatiest tick manip cycle I've come across lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbQgOi4OA4c> You reduce that a bit because of having to mine sand and grow seaweed but how is it a lot less?If you care only about the crafting xp getting those supplies makes the effective crafting xp less.
how do i get this
>>575011520that looks incredibly chill how is that sweaty to you?
>>575011813that's like a bare minimum type of gesture so i would say try and find a gf at all first
>>575011520>makes the effective crafting xp lessnot a lot less than stated 100k/h though, it stays faster than charters and well over 100k. And yes, I have done that stuff myself so I know I can't maintain 180k/h, but I was getting over 150k and it's actually better that way than not doing the method as bank opens automatically without having to think about when the cast is over, and you can position your mouse for the deposit in advance. It's a nice rhytm.
>>575011813https://postfully.app/tools/text-message-generator/
>>575011487Classic was made for a different time period and isn't comparable. Funny when raiding was released originally it was inaccessible since over 50% of the players would go below 5 fps in a 40 man raid. But yes wow players do complain about things like LFR. The daily bs and daily systems are completely irrelevant if you aren't doing high end raiding. They made a game for people who play 1 hour every 2 weeks and people who play 8 hours per day (due to the daily bs systems). This started with legion with the endless artifact treadmill grind for sweats. These grinds feel bad to do, because in 5 months time a new patch hits and progress gets reset so the grinding you did doesn't matter anymore.
>>575011813just preorder it
It's up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BduWzgv5mDY
>>574999578I really never understood iron, like yeah it's great on paper and early-mid progression is fun but once you get to the late game progression it's an absolute cock & ball torture simulator, not only are late game item grinds easily 100+ hrs each ON AVERAGE (very important keyword) but god forbid you go dry on an important item drop and suddenly that 100+ hour grind is now 200-400+ hours doing the same shit over and over, which isn't even that rare of an occurence. and this isn't even touching on the fact that you'll be burning through time gated supplies like butter and constantly feeling bad for using items that are annoying to sustain like sara brews.Mains atleast can work around bad RNG by converting dupe drops into GP and buying the shit they went dry on.
>>575013324this is the redpill but main is also cringe because nothing has any purposethe game would be perfect if more things had dry protection for irons (except maybe megas but those can take literal years whic is pretty egregious too)mains will defend this and say irons are just complaining, but it doesn't impact them anyways. the entire game is pointless we are all going to die just let me grind something without taking 400 hours minimum please ty
>>575013324I think the game mode is fun if you enjoy making supplies. There are very few things I don't enjoy doing. I.e., be autistic and a little mentally ill and you'll have fun>t. has 10k brews 7k ppots and 5k restores
>>575013587>nothing has any purposedont be the left guy
>>575011813What does the emoji supposed to mean?
>>575013823i flip flop between both depending on how dry i am
>i don't want to use the ge but i want everything to be as easy as getting it on the ge
erm akshually getting things on the GE isn't easy GP doesn't grow on trees unless you are a bond warrior.
>>575013324brews aren't hard to obtain, the only unreasonably hard to obtain supplies are dragon ammo & purple sweets if you want to do autism with the sweets. And ammo mainly means darts and arrows.
its about the journey not the destination
>>574999578Ironman is fun for all the questing and figuring things out on your own. It's a very restricted mode that's an optional playstyle. Yet over time the devs made this mode their main focus and especially how to make everything easier for this particular mode. Countless minigames that are pretty much dead content for mains have been added to tackle ironman problems. This also devalues this mode considerably. >>575013587gp is the dry protection which is why mains prefer farming a boss like vorkath since it gives consistent gp. You wouldn't see a main farm ass content like cg or nightmare despite being good gp/hr on paper. Because these pieces of content rely very much on getting 1 singular drop. The DT2 drop table is even more annoying. The wiki lists duke at like 9m /hr but 4m of that comes from axe piece and like another mil from the ring. But realistically you either go for a ring drop or you go for an axe piece drop and move to a different boss. Can't reliably go for both. Going for the axe is just pure awful and gives you the ironman experience.
fuck ironman, become the toxic pker you were meant to be
ironmen should pay a higher membership price to offset how much they ruin the game
>>575014435Also dbolts. Which is one of the primary reasons irons want the bowfa so badly. Since ruby dbolts are near equal dps as a bowfa on a lot of bosses you use bowfa on. Like for ex leviathan or warden p3.
>>575015481>You wouldn't see a main farm ass content like cgackshully >>574955775
>>575015667dbolts, yea, kinda, but you use them less than arrows or darts and there are better bosses to farm for them. But yes, if you use them as your main dps, those will run out too. It's just that currently you dont mainhand a crossbow in that many places, if you use a crossbow, its probably a zcb spec, and for speccing it doesn't make a difference if you use addy or dragon.
The HLC is NOT happy about Cold One's latest video
117 hd looks so bad
What gear should I buy now that I finally made some money?
helmies only make up like 10% of the playerbase so why are bondies constantly voting yes to these helmie catered updates that provide no benefit to bondies and are ruining the game
>Mfw I see snacco getting pked on his HCIM in an odablock clipKinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFYZrT6uJxo
>>575001227>Grind gameIf it's such an afk grind game why does the inferno need to exist? 99% of people can't or wont do it.
>>575017304it was never supposed to be this afk retard, hardly any of the original gower methods are nu-scape afk
>>575013823When I go dry twice over droprate, I'm a nihilist. When I go to droprate and get it, I'm an absurdist and when I get spooned, I'm an existentialist.
>>575016898what do you want to do?
>>575017392And yet they made the grinding easier while adding even harder content. Again, I ask why?
>>575017569What is that gopher from
>>575017608because pvmniggers dont care about skilling but feel like they need to do it because of the max cape, thus leading to them begging to add nuscape 5 minute afk trash, harder content is just a natural progression of pvm as the older players get better and better
>>575017591get slayer high enough to do bloodmoon rises and MM2 quest
>>575017682The spurdo? I dunno, I stole it
>>575017682>gopherFug :DDD
>>575016013can't remember why i hate cold one, I think he came out in defense of troons when oda called them transformers
>>575018606Wasn't that Sick Nerd?
>>575017837so you're saying the main audience of runescape is more interested in hard pvm than semi afk number go up skilling? Really?
why is youre gear cheesy
whos coming to my 67 woodcutting party the eta is 35 minutes
im so tired they keep cutting all the plants too and it makes me so sneezy and horrible
>>575019696Where?
>>575017885What should you buy for slayer? doesnt really matter just barrage/cannon it. If you wont use the gear for anythng else its not worth buying mage gear just for slayer as you will lose that gp on the ge tax, so think about what else you want to do. As in bosses/raids?
>>575020353I do want to learn bosses, but before they were either too scary or just to expensive too do (death chest cost detered me until now). So what is some good bossing gear for stuff like Muspah and Duke?
is rsn midzy here can i borrow the tbow you stole i will give it back
it wasnt stolen it was more like a lost and found type of deal
wish someone would find me
>>575021510are you talking to me
talking to the mooooooon
>>575021897hello?
>got my quest reward magic watering can from Fairy Tale Pt. 3 on my TOOLBELTaaaahhhhhhh just rs3 things
>>575022738proud of you dude
wait what happened to rs2
>rs3 talk in MY osrs threadFuck out of here
How do you guys deal with olm head phase? I got there without dying and then just ran out of heals. I'm using a bowfa. Turning head is annoying with all the crystals falling also. Getting better at 4:1, at least. FCASandChill my hero
>>575016898>26 seed drops>31k elves pickpocketedoofi'm at 25 drops (2 fgell on ground etc) at 23k
>>575023143if you cant do olm without dying you're better off suiciding an inventory of supplies in before you do any damage to him you'll lose less points
>>575022738Wrong thread, try here instead >>573890214
idk how you even die to olm in 2026
>>575023254I know. This was my first attempt without deathpiling and I just decided to send it.
>Some mongrel looting my arrowsIf I could pk your ass I would.
>>575023430Tell him to fuck off
thats weird my quiver doesnt let me drop arrows did you use the vorkath backpack on yours
picking up other players nechryael drops is good money and you dont need the slayer level but they always get pissed
>i have to use the shitty vork backpack instead of quiver when im afking with venator bowI hate this
>>575024403It's 8 mage defense you can't be fr
can someone teach me tob now
giving up
>>575023174I got 0 seeds drops from 20k to 29k, 2 days of going dry as fuck
ill teach you tob
tongue on benis haha :D
I'M KICKING MONKS TO DEATH AND HAVING THEM HEAL MY BOOBOOS BEFORE I KICK THEM TO DEATH AGAIN
>>575025075hahahaha benis :DDDD tob on benis :DDD
why are helmies like this
>>575026149>open 4chan>see reddit filename
HEY THANKS fucking gnome monkey now we wont get a sweet magic melee hybrid armor from the new sailing raid fractured archives.........
>>575026149having fagex cater the entire game around you for a few years straight does that
please dont be homophobic
this thread has gotten so anti iron, is it time for me to de-iron? 2100 total btw
lost my master cas with maggot king so now i cant do any content where i use thralls until i get it back great just great
>>575026149>gets called by his name>censors his name but not the callout
i think i lost mine too but im not sure im a skiller not a killer so it doesnt really impact me you know i can still use the hilt to teleport to inferno bank anyways and thats like the only usecase for master cas for a skiller and even then i dont really use that often since ive finished thieving already so i dont need to go to gem knights
>>575026434if you're in a good ironclan the game is about to get fun.
I'm an almost maxed iron with zero tob kc I've never been in a clan and I avoid all social interactions
wish i was in a good ironclan
https://youtu.be/JiM8BqltKYwYeah it is up, but you knew this already.
>>575027061>Runescape debtDo people really get GP loans?
Why didn't Lake confront Odachud
We need more whimsical grinds like the champion's cape and monkey backpacks
go collect gems or some shit then annoying bitch
>>575028524What do you mean?
>>575027898About what?
this is so sad does it mean im a washed up has been now
Why isn't there a top color that matches the sash on one of the leg pieces? If there was, it would be a really cool way to make a tunic.
>>575026149imagine getting flamed by a booger helm of all things. I'd kms in runescape.
>>575028725because hes a transformer and oda hates transformers
>>575029480because it's easier to confront people on twitter behind a screen than irl
>>575029480Isn't that his wife
>>575024545I dont want to waste splinter charges on fodder
>>575028725Oda being transphobic. He talked shit behind the monitor but can't stand up for his believes irl. Ian, cumnerd, mrmammal, vanc etc. all started beef with Oda but eventually folded to him.
KWAB
>>575029820They cant handle the odaura
>>575029820Ah, the whole being a good goy to look good on twitter tactic.
is anonydork here i have a question (serious)
>>575031341wag1 mate
ok my question is are we boycotting the new njz or are we supporting the girls
>>575031990im not actually him i was just acting
i knew that anonydork doesnt type like an english chav but i figured i might as well ask anyway since i might not be on by the time he sees it
>>575032410omfg
why did you misgender her
>>575032794he has posted his penis unfortunately
>>575029768Nah his bird is more classic "snowbunny"https://x.com/jessyttv
>>575032864Girls can have a penis chud
>>575033798>>575033961You don't have to include your fetishes when posting
>>575033961lol okay freak
>>575032794im a chud
>>575034253Wasnt even your post bitch
do you think d3ks would be proud of what weve become
>>575034410I dont think about her at all unless you remind me. Why are you obsessed with her
>>575034587>>575034587>>575034587>>575034587>>575034587fresh bread
