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If You Wanna Break Free Edition

Previous you better listen to me: >>575033040

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

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-Comicbin
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>https://archive.is/iSiFg

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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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who was on da phone
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>>575045626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4eVHaeYahU
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personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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>>575045730
Damn I missed that. Who would call Asgore and why would Asgore not answer?
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>>575045709
the trope of a family member who looks identical to the character with a slight alteration never fails to make me seal clap
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>>575045730
berdly was calling up his bitch, obviously
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>>575045780
repoastin' because I posted it at end of thread
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TOTAL
TIME POOP
VICTORY
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How would Isaac fare in the dark worlds?
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>>575045730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4dKZY94fQQ
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>>575045769
this rules
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>>575045868
Issac would stomp on titans easily. Nothing else would even be a challenge
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What's going to happen to my beloved Noelle in chapter 7B, anons?
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>>575045851
>original concept is clearly a flower collar and crescent emblazoned on their shirt
Derse dreamer confirmed, ig it got morphed into a neckerchief in the creative process
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>>575045807
Charlene doesn't shut up about how much higher the population of her town is compared to Carol's anytime they're at a family meet-up.
She goes so far as to bring up charitable donations she makes to the same charities Carol did, except she donated one extra dollar.
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i can't stop looking at ralsei with lewd eyes
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ralsei butt
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9pm coffee hits different as the kids say
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>>575046028
I agree
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>>575045626
>scatman's world
>https://youtu.be/LOwsBRD9OwM
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>>575046018
>>575046028
They're here...
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>>575046015
tobycore
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Helping the princess blossom!
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Is there a comfier channel to watch Deltarune on?
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>>575045730
>>575045806
It's probably either Toriel wandering where the fuck Kris is or if the calls are for Asgore (idk what this dialogue prompt is about but it's PROBABLY just Kris's phone) then it's Carol calling about Rudy. But it's probably Toriel calling Kris.
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>>575046028
true!
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>>575038730
>"Silver Drake?" I've never beaten this boss before...
>Alright, hand it over, honey! I got this!
>No, dad! This is my battle!
>... So, um, how about just telling me what to do?
>Haha, sure! How about trying Fireshock?
>I'd love to, dad, but the mage left the party.
>Oh yeah. How about one of your 99 Blaze Potions?
>Umm, I'm saving those?
>For what? Your birthday? C'mon, live a little!
>OK, dad! This one's for you! Hiyah!
>...
>It... reflects fire attacks.
Now comes the part where you shake your fist and yell "Hussie!"
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Does anyone have that based comic where CHADsei impregnates that woman?
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>>575046073
LaVega thread
best chapter 3 schizoboss
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since the next chapter’s dark world will be in the hospital, are you ready for this toy in the lobby to be its own character?
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>>575045730
Carol calling to scream "Change of plans, change of plans" (she doesn't know Kris already took initiative)
And also Toriel calling about Rudy falling down and wondering why isn't her child home after dark, and why hasn't anybody seen Kris at the festival for ages
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>>575045851
the one on the right is Purple Alphys in a wig and I would have sweaty animalistic sex with her
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>>575046150
snapcube
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>>575045806
>>575046151
That's Kris's phone
Trying to interact with the phone again just has Kris look at the back of it
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ralsei with angel wings... titansei... kinosei...
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>>575045851
>>575045981
What wait where is the concept art for chapter 5???? I want to see
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>>575046018
>Raly will never look at me like this while calling me a faggot while massaging her prostate
Why fucking LIVE
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>>575046326
bobby blusky
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>>575046331
fresh off the boat award
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I want to see more art of groomer dess
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>>575046272
>puts their hand on the doorknob and does nothing else
>looks at the back of the phone
kris you little weasel
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Toby is friend
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>>575045981
but why the fuck would there be a moon on the shirt because irs not really a derse or a jade reference in anything other than nerd with glasses. even the concept art is confused and aimless. grrrr toby
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>>575046326
It's basically what that another anon posted but Tony made a new blooski post
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>>575045361
>ch7b starts
>kris and noelle stop swimming and are FALLING DOWN into the underworld
>undertale intro begins
oh my god
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>>575045806
Who would call Spamton and why would Spamton not answer?
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>>575046382
I forgot to upload the image after I spent like 5 minutes trying to find a good screenshot to save off Google fucking kill me dude
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>>575046326
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>>575045626
Hoo...
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>>575046228
It will be multiple characters, each colored bead will be an evil shadow clone version of one of the heroes
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>>575046630
>>575046468
hideous creature
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>>575046639
MUNGUS!
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>>575046630
DAMN, AQUA GETS TO FUCK THAT?
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OOOOHHHH THAT THING
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>>575046409
chapter 5 is already ripe with touhou references so I wouldn't be surprised if it's a nod to a certain other nerdy character with purple hair who always carries around a book.
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>>575046630
berdly has to fuck this? I send my condolences
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average /utg/ ralsei poster
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toby made ralsei ugly in his concept art too but then made him cute for his talking sprites so it wouldn't be necessarily over for seth if temmie didn't exist
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>>575046639
...man!
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>>575046468
I'm very thankful to Temmie for not drawing Seth as this disgusting mtf tranny looking ass
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>>575046781
but i like flowery

>>575046789
ralsei's concept art is adorable though
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>5 of 7 chapters
>no inkling on where the story is headed
this is called bad writing
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>>575046789
>cute for his talking sprites
but those are so ugly. like he has downs or something
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>>575046707
beta seth
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>>575046757
No. There's already another purple bespectacled nerd called Seth in a JRPG. I forgot which.
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what if asriel came home
with a gun
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>>575046228
The final chapter will be in the manor, as Rudy is moved for hospice care. It'll be a good way to loredump about Dess on the normies, who don't religiously consume deltarune theories every day, and don't hyperfocus on every bit of dialogue.
Also the manor is very cold, so
>Ice palace

The hospital, I just don't see it. It would be nice to see Berdly in the aborted weird route, but I don't think Toby Fox is going to this effort.
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>>575046789
Concept art Ralsei is cute, fuck you
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purplesmart makes me horny
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>>575046874
You're mistaken anon. That stuff about the titans, the roaring, whatever happened in the intro, etc? That's not the story.
The story is about Kris' failed love life. Everything else is secondary.
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all of the moids in this general who lusted for in game seth but are disgusted with concept art seth do not deserve the stinky bookish nerd they think they want. concept seth is what people like seth actually look like in the real world.
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>>575046910
Oh, right, it's Illusion of Gaia Seth.
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>>575046448
Replace the bottom part with berdly in the hospital.... still with the bald patch of course.
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>>575046801
>trannies out of nowhere
obsessed
>>575046874
>>no inkling on where the story is headed
Reading is FUNdamental
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>>575046874
It'll be a huge loredump at the eleventh hour, just like in Undertale.
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>>575046263
she argued with chat too much in ch4 was the latest one any better
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>>575047024
Not everyone on Earth is overweight.
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>>575046630
This design kind of rules, but the final outfit is better.
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>>575046468
The stem of the flower being the tie is a neat concept but it would be hell to get that across with the amount of pixels they have so I see why they dropped it
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>>575046908
Um actually the crying emoji has been stolen by hagfags, this Is outdated as shit!
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>>575046801
They still look like a cute boymoding tgirl though.
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apparently the story was leaked a while ago
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>>575047103
>just like in Undertale
But Undertale had a very clear trajectory from the onset. Human souls wanted, child murderers dispatched to take it, are you a bad enough kid to flirt your way through them all?
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the message of deltarune is to just have fun and be yourself
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>>575046874
*5 out of 8
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>>575047156
This is fake and has been retroactively changed with info from later chapters.
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>>575046989
i like the sprite where he looks sad. what was toby thinking ralsei was thinking there
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>>575047114
Nta but I watched most of the vods as she uploaded them and I enjoyed them. Chat trying to direct her to do the egg room was so gold
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1 > 5 > 3 > 4 > 2
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>>575047024
i don't care about reality and i will continue to goon to art where seth is a cute bucktoothed girl with big tits
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>>575047156
Not this shit again. Just look at chapter 3.
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I think it's time for the Roaring Knight to permanently resolve the Susie problem.
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>>575047024
I like concept Seth's face better
the body is a badly drawn blob
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>>575047247
That's to prepare you when the mutilated ralsei drawing is revealed in chapter 6
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>>575046989
Oh that sideways Ralsei look a lot like these unused Susie sprites. I wonder if Toby himself imagined these sprites in this way and tried to make it work before dropping them because they look awkward?
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>>575047298
4 > 3 > 2 >> 5 > 1
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>>575047156
>chess theory
lmao, outdated
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>>575047156
Nobody ever points out how this image clearly implies that Chairiel would be important in chapter three. Also, what was the bullet supposed to be? I know that this is just a bunch of fan predictions represented vaguely, but I don't know why a real bullet would be there.
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>>575046479
top of mazlo's heirarchy of needs
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2>1>3>4>5 btw
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>>575047156
>Rook in chapter 3
>Purple soul in chapter 3
>Firegrave in chapter 3
>Roaring in chapter 5

Where are those elements
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>>575045780
lol
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>>575047419
>>575047318
Hi, Toby here. Once you progress far enough in the future chapters, content in previous chapters will drastically change. I hinted this with that save file update not too long ago, remember?
Hope this clears things up. Arf arf
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>>575047419
DEBOONKED, even?
>>575047406
ralsei pink&yellow theory?

4=5>3>1>2 trvke
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Flowsei shippers are the most oppressed minority there is right now
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>>575047467
First person I've seen with actual taste
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>>575047445
I need Carol to get hierarchal on my Mazlo
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>>575047558
FIVE on the level of FOUR? you're insane, don't interact with my posts anymore
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>>575047467
>1 anywhere except the very bottom
I like early Susie too, anon, but come on
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>>575047558
>4=5>3>1>2
I don't care for ranking chapters when I personally find them all to be very enjoyable back to back so far but I'm curious about your reasoning for these. I don't necessarily disagree but I'm intrigued
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>>575047579
I need to Maz on Carol's lo until she hierarchy-s.
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>>575047114
>>575047248
>She
You mean he. No matter how convincing Snapcube's voice Is he will never be a woman said Noelle Holiday.
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>>575047567
Nope, that'd be Ralsery (top Ralsei and bottom Flowery) shippers.
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>>575047549
you do realize toby larps as noelle when posting on 4chan.. right?
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>>575047392
toby draws the face sprites so
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>>575047686
But I'm not Toby. I'm larping as Toby.
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I cant do the fucking mew fight.
Its somehow even harder than the Roaring knight fight.
It fucks with my brain way too hard.
especially the fucking bombs
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>>575047567
Nah, Krusies are oppressed by canon events
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>>575047651
It is CHARMING and FUN and MYSTICAL and SOULFUL and PRETTY *pushes you down the stairs*
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Hey man *makes your thread glow*
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>>575047680
Incredibly low tier bait chuddy this isn't sneedy farms, go back etc
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>>575047567
i barely see the discourse as i mostly stick to jp/kr artists but i imagine it's frustrating to see as the bait between them is just so, soo blatant
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>>575047567
This ship sucks.
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>>575047710
tricky tony... you cant fool me
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>>575047680
Based
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>>575047680
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>>575047731
Load up on Shikacolas. For the Bomberman attacks, just try to move as little as possible, you'll fuck up more if you panic.
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1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5
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>>575047742
Actually ralsusie gods are the most oppressed minority
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>>575046479
Carol would be upset they weren't actually making out
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>>575047794
I like when Flowery is drawn more like dopey cartoonish overworld sprite.
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>The biggest names in chapter 1 are King, Queen and Knight
Was Toby really going for the chess theory, but then changed his mind?
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>>575047681
They are my brothers and sisters and theyters
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>>575047872
you lot aren't oppressed just overlooked
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>>575047731
just accept that the 4 bomb attacks will hit you no matter what and tank em, if you're dokimaxxing you can just ignore em
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The most oppressed ship is me x fave
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>>575047872
we're oppressed by the fact that you could lock susie and ralsei in a room and pump them full of meth and they still wouldn't realize of their own accord that they could fuck
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>>575047920
>chess
They're fucking playing cards, for a start.
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>>575047962
No country on Earth recognizes marriage between Autistic women and fictional televisions.
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>>575047731
Make sure not to use the Mannequin. Since the bomb attack is not puppet/cat damage it's literally useless for that attack.

Also, get the treecake for 160 HP party heal
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>>575048039
fave was tenna?? how was i supposed to figure that out?
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>>575047869
susie learning maths before sam comes in and eats her comedically giant number 2 partner (i don't have the green text saved)
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>>575047928
this artist knows ral's place is on the bottom trembling and crying THOUGH
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>>575048039
ermmm my country does
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>>575047731
I don't know if I've just gotten insanely good RNG or something but I've beat mew mew like 4 times and have had 0 issues with the bomb attack. If anything, the attack where you rotate the soul through a tunnel or whatever it is fucks me the most
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>>575047781
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>>575047794
actually right now all the master baiters have moved on to rehashing if flowey x papyrus is problematic medias so flowsei is getting ignored somehow by the same parties who have been crying about it
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>>575048039
My fave isn't Tenna, but me x Tenna is also an oppressed ship, you're right
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Predict the Santa animatronic's moveset in chapter 6. It'll definitely be a miniboss right?
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>>575048137
this is a nice picture
i wish i could draw...
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>>575047786
>sneedy farms
Not Into bullying autistic lolcows but I'm sure that upsets you said Noelle Holiday
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>>575048242
What ships aren't oppressed?
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>>575048229
>flowey x papyrus
i really want to know why this is a thing and how sincere it is

>>575048262
same...
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>Susie proposes staking out the church
>Staking out the shelter has never occurred to her

Why?
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>>575048039
i don't have autism so that means i can marry him
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>>575048039
>on Earth
Backwater planet. Not a problem in the Galactic Federation of Spamton...as long as you have Kromer to spare for the wedding fee Pipis Tax.
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is it avatarfagging if i post my own stuff
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HN7z5peWAAAGUrQ?format=jpg&name=orig
battat
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>>575046874
It's Harry Potter pacing
>5 parts of dicking around
>part 6 oh no everything is serious
>part 7 wrap it up with 40 minutes of exposition dump and make babies with the dumbest names ever
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>>575048137
Raly's a bratty angry craving powerbottom at best. I cannot possibly imagine raly penetrating anyone and anything.
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>>575048364
its a thing and its quite sincere, i used to read a lot of fanfiction of it. it's seeing a revival by people who are retarded
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>>575048378
She took Alphys' saying only Undyne and the Mayor go the shelter at face value.
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A holiday house dark world sounds cool in theory but it's hard to imagine a "serious chapter" that has a dark world in the HOLIDAY house. like i'm ngl it's hard to imagine a dark world in the holiday house that's any less of a fun adventure as chapter 2. With how christmasy it is it's hard to imagine how serious it could get, dess and carol's room would probably be fucked but y'know.
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>>575048440
Harry Potter didn't establish the stakes until 4. Deltarune did it during 1, and the story is still dicking around.
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>>575048546
Okay, but the Knight is inside right now, at the end of chapter 4. Sooner or later, the Knight has to leave.
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>>575048378
Because It's a plot hole for Susiecto not do that. We know for a fact the knight goes In and out of the shelter so hiding in the trees around the shelter would be the obvious thing to do.
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>>575048378
cause ummm uhhh shes retarded
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friend inside b
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>>575048553
Undertale managed to be serious in a cute snowy town, magical waterfall, room of pretty flowers, etc
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KRISSY DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE PROPHECY OF DELTA
Ralsei asked calmly
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>>575048364
sis where have you been? it's where we first see the term "flowery" even,
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>>575048450
i strongly agree but i'll also go against that and confess i've had deranged thoughts about him and noelle and /rr/ (iykyk)

>>575048545
rip
always sucks to see old ships unearthed in modern fandom. nobody knows how to have fun anymore
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>>575048553
I'm sorry to hear that you experience difficulty with imagination, anon.
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>The Deltarune of Despair and Nightmares
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Suselle isn't canon because Confession didn't play when they confessed
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why does Seth look like an ugly man in the concept art this sucks
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>>575048802
what would be the best way to introduce these guys directly if they really are involved somehow?
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>>575048553
Noelle will be in an awful headspace, and it will affect how the darkners look.
Also, Noelle is afraid of Santa Claus.
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*sigh*
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It's eye opening how many Deltarune fans have no idea how pacing works and think that there should be raising tension for 4 chapters in a row.
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>>575048886
Toby is too male brained and didn't put a feminine touch on Seth yet
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>>575048712
i-it's been ten years since i touched undertale...
i meant to do a replay but utg's so addicting
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MY DELTARUNE
STOP EDGING ME
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>>575048897
>Kris, Susie, and Ralsei walk into the shelter
>it's a bar
>these guys are sitting at the bar and start telling "three heroes walk into a bar" jokes
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>>575048984
OH IT WAS HORRIBLE
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Ralsei doesn't deserve Flowery ass. I do.
Ralsei can go to the kitchen and bake up some magical cakes for me to stuff in Flowery's mouth.
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>>575048938
The fandom is full of teenagers. Meaning they're stupid.
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>>575049030
FUCKING
STOP THAT
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we don’t even have the charlierune, let alone the deltarune
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>>575048974
come back to it one day, it's worth. i replayed it before chapter 3/4 and i forgot how many little things are in it that made me rethink ideas i had about deltarune
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>>575048039
what about fictional rectangles
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>>575049050
but they've kissed this is an unused sprite (REAL!!!)
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>>575048938
Deltarune does constantly raise the tension with every cliffhanger ending but then it instantly deflates the next chapter when everything is forgotten or glazed over and nothing happens
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>>575046874
What do squids have to do with this
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>>575048938
Pacing perception is fucked in a chapter per chapter game that has been going on for 8 years
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>>575049132
That's me on the right and I'm the dominant one in the relationship
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Ralsei hatefucking Flowery
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>>575049197
Yeah, that's why it was literally spelled out for you. And Chapter 5 was still called "filler" by brainlet retards.
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>>575049267
>t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-the small bratty femboy is the dominant!!
okay wokie
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Flowery... cuntboy...
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do you guys think toby is gonna torture us by having his next game release in chapters for another decade
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Why is Ralsei tied to so many low quality posts?
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>>575048553
Why would it even be in the holiday house? Wouldn’t be in the hospital because of whatever happened to Rudy?
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KRIS PLEASE
IMPREGNATE YOUR
CHILDHOOD FRIEND
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>>575049132
That's me on the left (I'm getting dommed in this relationship)
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>>575049197
I started playing after Chapter 5 released and the pacing is still fucked, brofam.
It's like a webnovel where the author is paid per chapter. The pacing is simply fucked whether you read it as it updated daily or whether you binged all 2000 chapters.
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It seems they didn't make a big fuss about Noelle's references to suicide in chapter 5 like they did when the rose was deflowered, huh?
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>>575046630
Toby liked Battat so much he made a dancestor for him
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ahhhhhhhhh wonderful another day of fave wanting to kill themselves because their life is actually well and truly over ohhhhhhhh this is so wonderful fave loves this so much yay yay yay fave is jumping for joy at having to live another day trapped in hell yay yay yay hooray for fave
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>>575049167
I haven't played or thought about splatoon since my nintendo online subscription ran out 2 years ago. did anything interesting at all happen during that time?
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New whiteboard?
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>>575049478
Rape is a bigger deal than anything else, and any allusions to rape are worse than the Holocaust.
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>>575045780
I think we reached the technical limits. Controls for zooming and moving are completely fucked at the final scaling
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>>575049453
>t. wokie
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>>575049478
In America, teenagers killing themselves isn't as controversial and taboo as teenagers having sex
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>>575049416
Drinking ralseis bath water
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>>575049416
you can still see the pussy print in the reflection MMMMMMMMMMMMMODS
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>>575049306
What makes chapter 5 not filler?
Toby making a cope post that we should shut our brain off and just smile beforehand?
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Flowsei and Spamtenna are both better when the shorter glasses-wearing one impregnates the taller wacky one
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>>575049551
a simple worm shitpost spawned a cascading worm effect, how inspiring......
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>>575049647
>What makes chapter 5 not filler?
Being part of the story you fucking invalid
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>>575049610
So if the original imagery was kept, was the implication supposed to be that we raped Noelle until she was mindbroken yet more mindbroken, and then came out on the other side?
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>>575049551
Lmao
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>>575049735
The fact that you're a raging homosexual who wants to fuck Flowery is irrelevant to me. Why is chapter 5 not pointless filler?
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>>575049735
if 95% of a chapter is unrelated to the story and the remaining 5% is more vagueposting, it is filler.
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>>575049647
>>575049812
>I'm just going to prove them right!
It's called "breather", you mouthbreathing retard. You don't fucking know what "filler" even is.
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I really do wonder if we'll ever know what Ralsei was telling Kris while (You) were with Susie or if it's just unimportant bullshit. Given it's pretty obvious Ralsei knew about the Player even back then I wonder if it was anything important.
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nobody would complain about chapter 5 if it was good filler that's the critical point
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>>575049551
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>>575049852
Your parents should have beaten you as a child.
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>>575049890
And yours should've aborted you.
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>>575049812
>>575049819
Get a "filler" this
*unzips dick*
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>>575049853
[genuine discussion voice] are we 100% sure Ralsei knows about the player
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>>575049890
Okay, you waste of a perfectly good nut.
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>>575047298
4 > 5 > 1 > 3 > 2
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>>575049853
They were talking about Kris making the Card Kingdom fountain trust me I'm Toby Fox's computer
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>>575049478
there are anons here who don't think it's about suicide so the lack of fuss isn't due to a taboo (rape is seen as a huger no-no than suicide or shit like decapitation) it's rather due to level 500 autistic tards not understanding what noelle meant
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Haha what If Ralsei was Undertale's Asriel/Flowey? Wouldn't that be funny?
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>>575049551
genuine leaked intro to 7b
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>>575049962
haha
:)
*vagues at you*
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Flowsei but ralsei is a tree and flowery is one of those parasite plants that grow constricting around trees and dig their roots on the treesei and sap out his nutrients and make him weak and wither it slowly and in desperation he cannot do anything to stop it and flowery's pollen spreading all over treesei's own flowers messing with their reproduction and pollinating treesei's flowers
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>>575049962
He knows that we save the game, and what we name that save and names Castle Town after it, and that the name changed from the original Kris save. He might not understand what we are, but he is aware that something bigger than him is going on and influencing events.
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>>575049962
Yes.
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>>575049610
it still feels extremely weird for toby to have blatantly told us through the sweepstakes that both rings we give to noelle in C2 are WEDDING rings and then have this scene changed to not imply rape anymore.
obviously I get that putting underage rape in a game with a very young fanbase would be downright insane, but then why the fuck did he do all that back in C2??
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>>575049962
I feel like that slip up in his room where he says "You can...Kris can" this chapter makes it pretty undeniable that he's aware of the distinction at least at a basic level because there's literally no reason to backtrack like that otherwise.
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>>575048897
They're involved
People focus on normalNPC but the scared donut guy (and maybe a couple other goners) were pulling this stunt
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Im Black and do not care for Blue's design
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>Uh oh look out it's the big guy!
>And there's.....
>JOCKINGTON!!!!!!!!
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>>575050123
He thought he'd get away with it, then the stink was too big to ignore.
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Every second the story doesn't spend on gaster roaring knight titans dess asriel is filler and should've been cut from the game.
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kris is working WITH the knight AND he's asriel? aww hell naw
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>>575050040
>>575049549
>>575049478
>>575049737
>Kris
>LV5 Shattered Rose
>Only one knows
>the rose's meaning.
It was changed because nobody realized it wasn't Noelle that was hurt.
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Im blue dabadee dabadae
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>>575049674
agreed
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>>575049501
Yeah but look at him
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>>575050239
imagine if your older brother went out at night and started kidnapping people
on everyone's soul, we all would be supporting him
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>>575050229
There are dipshits that unironically think like this, and I hate them.
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>>575049551
The size of that final worm is how small your penis has to be to fit into Aqua
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>>575050202
but how would you feel is Papyrus attacked you?
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>>575049962
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>>575050229
I think we're mixing two different kinds of shitters here because the "I just want to complete the mission" folk don't care about gasterstimmies
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>>575045626
new whiteboard

https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96320859-9140-7661

https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96320859-9140-7661

https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96320859-9140-7661

https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96320859-9140-7661
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>>575050229
this but unironically
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>>575050405
Im Green
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>>575050229
When is Naruto going to get the One Piece? I'm sick of all this filler.
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Wtf was this about?
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>>575049962
This changes nothing
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>>575045780
female jockington. has many iconic lines such as:
>"long before, woman didn't have any rights. But now, unexpected, woman were always right? It's liberating!"
>"minerals are woke! Good for them (snake thumbs up)"
>"Imagination, Kris, always remember that life, is your creation"
>"Art's and crafts are me and, catti's favorite! I can touch, I can play!"
>"(at the gym) Hey Kris, just doing, tail exercises. need to slim for, beauty pageante[sic]! hashtag tail goals"
>"Serving diva isnt just, about how you look it. it's about, the glamour in your scales, the shine, let's be bright together! hashtag inspirational"
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>>575048997
Damn that might be a cool way to have them slowly reveal how long they have been watching them and the town.
>>575050162
Yeah that whole scene was conspicuous. They are probably funnelling the duo to the dark world to be mandatory. Perhaps Kris did go to the library to make a dark fountain. But maybe he wanted it to last longer in the town but Gaster's followers block you and Susie into going into it. And the reason they want it there is to get Noelle in there which leads to WR possibly happening and that seems like a direct route to Gaster.
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>>575049962
He knows Kris is the cage
He doesn't know that what's in the cage wants to kiss him
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>>575050481
same
but
containing
zero
deceptiveness
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Can we get some character development at least?
It's been a long time since chapter 2 but Susie and Kris have been static. Ralsei is the only one who ever gets anything but then he resets his personality each chapter
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>>575050365
dipshits and patricians agree.
It's the midwits at the peak of the bellcurve who think otherwise, tasteless and welcoming of mediocrity as they are
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>>575050241
that's interesting and i'd be inclined to agree but the changed version feels closer to noelles "soul" aka the dot
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>>575050481
kek frfr
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>>575050096
i don't think ralsei is a tree anymoroe
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>>575050123
It was never "implying" rape, it was (and still is) a rape analogy.
At no point were you ever meant to draw the conclusion that you literally forced Kris to sexually assault Noelle. But you are still forcefully penetrating her (with a thorn, in her finger) and robbing her of her innocence.
The way you treat her in Snowgrave is likewise an obvious parallel to an abusive/toxic relationship, as made obvious by "putting a ring on her finger" and Spamton's innuendos, even if nothing explicitly romantic or sexual is going on.
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>>575050643
>umm, ackshually I'm a patrician!
No, you're fucking not, you worthless, tasteless faggot.
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>>575050481
i'm a bit autistic, did you purposely pick the two series that are notorious for filler?
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>>575050241
What the fuck did happen to Noelle during that scene then
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>>575050702
>umm, ackshually filler is delicious!
go eat your xiantham gum and high fructose corn syrup elsewhere, midwit
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>>575050642
Susie is actively protecting the flowers. What are you smoking? Did you even play the game?
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>>575050702
>t. tasteful faggot
How about you taste my nuts?
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>>575050162
Why focus on that NPC and not the fact that the annoying dog caused the traffic jam in the first place and later in the chapter annoying dog-themed traffic cones force you to go with Noelle and the annoying dog also runs you over to stop you from getting an egg? Is it just too meta to point out that Toby's avatar is responsible for all this railroading?
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>>575049478
The truth is, the "media literacy" crowd who jerks themselves off about how everyone else is a retard for thinking the rape metaphor was literal are the same people thinking the suicide allegory is literal
If rape wasn't problematic medias they would've thought it was literal too
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>>575046216
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>>575050559
Kris is reacting to Ralsei's cute tsundere pouting
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no one goes to the theater anymore. why is that? because who wants to feel like a semi captive in the writers' filler. i can scrub to the good parts at home.
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>>575050402
Are you saying that my four Inch pencil dick Is too big for Aqua's cunny?
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>>575050123
It's one of the few times where toby's meta shenanigans have truly bitten him in the ass because yes, it is an allegory for rape, but the "rape" is nonconsensual-y telling noelle she is a video game npc. The non consensual aspect of it just doesn't matter after, even to noelle. Who cares about mortal rape when you're literally breaking reality? There's bigger fish to fry now and noelle is smart (or just insane, probably both) enough to instantly square that. Same reason jevil doesn't care about killing people
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i wish i could draw...
hands and bratty again i hope its ok
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>>575050610
trolling her blog by sending pictures of this and saying I found her mom
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>>575050889
I just copypaste the synopsis into chatgpt and ask it to break it down into a few sentences, then tell me the themes and meaning behind the story. I save so much time by doing this.
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>>575050825
She already became a pacifist by the end of chapter 1 thats not new
Nothing in 5 is new it's a complete retread of previous chapters with trite undertale references tacked on
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>>575050775
Why do you think she said "thank you", and then acted like that in the Weird Route? That's what power tastes like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W1OAaaCjQQ
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>>575050559
teasing him because he knows ralsei wouldn't want flowery to hear that and oughhh ough ralsei cute aiieee
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>>575050863
Flowery on the left
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>>575050134
You mean the tea? Do people ignore he was talking to susie in the previous text box? I swear that box has to be the most out of context line of dialogue in this chapter.
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>>575050610
Kino
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If you think Noelle and Kris actually just died in the weird route and that's all that happened, I'm sorry but you have crippling retardation and missing-the-forest-for-the-trees-itis
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>>575050241
Maybe Noelle is just fucked no matter when you abort the weird route and Kris is the only one who can be "saved" once you start down that path
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https://files.catbox.moe/ae7cjk.jpg
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>u are dumb if you dont want to wait 11 years for a sappy escapism is bad power of friendship good ending
Just hurry it up already toby enough with the jokes
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>>575051086
most media literate award
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>>575050954
rouxls kaard is jockington's mom?!
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>>575045780
Finished request, I’m not sure how much I like these brushes. Legitimately easier to do traditional.
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>>575050825
You have to recognize that /v/ is leaking and there are a lot of people here right now who are either trolling or too stupid to breath and neither are worth engaging with
I had a guy earlier tell me that "nobody was acting stressed this chapter" and when I posted Ralsei blowing up at Flowery I got two dipshits going "OH MORE LE VAGUEPOSTING" and "see I knew you were going to that, Ralsei (a main character) only gets mad at Flowery (the main antagonist this chapter), that doesn't count"
Some people are just a complete waste of oxygen. They're not even human. Don't waste your time on them.
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>>575050559
Kris is staring past Ralsei at (You) because (You) are Kris's Flowery (they hate you)
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>>575051086
They might as well be dead. They're never coming back to Hometown, none of their friends are ever seeing them again. Whatever happens in the weird route probably causes Sans to abandon this dimension too.
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>>575050906
Aqua is small and most likely super tight. That might honestly too big for her although Aqua would probably get impatient and just force it it
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>>575051202
Yelling at them is cathartic, though.
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>>575051202
Ralsei getting angry WAS mostly just vague shit though
A lot of it was also played for laughs
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>>575051086
on god kek
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>>575050758
He thinks it means filler is good.
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>its real good when the author stretches a story into 27 books like discworld
this is what you retards believe? do you not value your own time?
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>>575050691
It's fine because chapter 5 weird route Noelle would torture and rape me and that's exactly what I want from her!
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>>575050775
step 1 of a path that either leads to becoming gaster 2 or failing and getting slot into a slightly edgier role in this video game script. It will probably be the latter
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i wouldn't have complained about the filler if it was a festival darkworld and flowery was the only new guy
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>>575051342
that's not what discworld is
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>do you not value your own time?
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>>575051086
7B starting with kris and noelle alive instead of a deliberate anticlimax of their corpses in the lake will be just like when people expected 5 to be "FRIEND lures susie with the feather pen of hope and the soul fights kris" and got disappointed when it wasn't their retarded theory
it'll be that all over again
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>>575051187
That is really amazing anon, incredible!
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>>575051342
Have you ever read a Discworld book?
This comparison doesn't make any sense.
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Is this ever out-classed for Susie's weapon? I imagine the 40% rude buster keeps it relevant
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>>575051202
>one character got kinda steamy in a funny way that means they were all stressed
Got anything else? I guess Susie was also stressed because she couldn't stop thinking about her future wife's heartbeat but that's it
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>>575051187
beautiful illustration and reminds me of staring at the water color painted story books i adored as a child... this is almost too precious for /utg/. made me a bit emotional
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>>575051342
This is bait.
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i've seen so much wholesome porn kriselle and now can't fathom living in the reality where this is not it.
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>>575051419
Do you even need to ask that question of these retards?
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>vague posted again award
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>>575051402
i didn't think people genuinely thought they died as noelle was hearing our voice up until the point of going underwater completely
wasn't it obvious they "clipped out bounds"?
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>>575051187
Looks nice. What other things have you drawn?
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Susie was once a darkner, she consumed dess's soul to ascend to heaven and live in the light world. Dess has been with us this whole time and nobody knows it. The real lost girl is actually Noelle. Screencap this
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>>575051430
Why does Toby hate Jevilstail so much
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>>575051440
Yeah here you go
https://deltarune.com/
You can buy the game here and play it to find out, have fun!
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>>575051342
This post finally made me realize what is going on here
Deltarune fans think it's normal for a game to go on and on like how manga and light novels do for thousands of chapters
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I'm confused because every other scene in Chapter 5 is "The World Revolving it's only 2G the cats are gon get you but on Kris's shoulder a weight remained yeah Flowery told me the HUD is real fuck we failed our noclip and teleported back into bounds", yet both the people who hate and like the chapter talk like it's 2 hours straight of characters talking about their feelings while facing the camera and nothing else
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>>575051527
it is very obviously that but some people for some reason are very very mad at the idea of weird route doing anything relevant
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>>575051556
Because if you need pacifist as a crutch to beat Jevil, you deserve the worse reward.
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>>575051527
that's blatantly what happened but people mistook the suicide allegories for the scene literally just being a double suicide with no supernatural meta elements at all
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>>575051527
If Noelle is dead, it'd be the most merciful thing Toby could do.

You do not fear main character death. You welcome it.
Your punishment must be more severe.
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>>575051630
Isn't ACTing to beat Jevil actually more difficult because of his turn changes the act gimmick
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>>575051569
Got anything besides insults my media-literate friend?
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>>575051589
this is why deltarune should’ve just released as one game and not this chapter shit
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>>575050836
Bros...I hope he becomes kino....Toby has to make him the biggest chad redemption story of all time. Bigger chad than Flowery and Berdly.
Yes he might start out as a recluse NEET or a scaredy cat who still is chipper and fun to be around but I want one BIG moment with Papyrus saving the day...
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>>575051589
>deltarune fans
nah. i think its just the dumb /v/ tourists
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>>575051086
they did not die, but i hate this instant shut down of noelle feeling very suicidal at that point. but i'll assume you don't believe that, unlike like half this general and most of /v/
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>>575050852
I dunno
They probably work as a group anyways
Who does what isn't clear. Fan interpretations where normalNPC "went too far" may just be wrong when all the goners were hanging out at that stand and there was that one drawing that showed sans at that stand instead of NormalNPC.
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>>575051598
/v/ logged on to complain about the Suselle confession scene as soon as they got done masturbating their little cuck dicks to it and never played the rest of the game
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>>575045868
>>575045940

Yeh. If Berdly was that strong out of pure autism and imagination then Isaac would be unstoppable
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>>575051630
Attacking Jevil is way faster and easier than sparing him though, pacifist requires you to either memorize the pirouette order or drag the fight out
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>>575051254
Thank god Aqua would just force It In!
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pluebies
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>>575051598
chapter 5's plot important parts are weird route, like 5 minutes of asgore vagueposting, and a few lines from mew that were patched in after the chapter released. the vast majority of it is focused on some ugly one off goofy goobers that you can tell the game desperately wants you to care about and that's why people consider it filler, i think. god damn it toby i wanted to play festival games with jockington
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>>575050229
Most of this game has been vagueposting, but at least the other chapters divulged new information in a somewhat timely manner.
>Chapter 1 showed that Kris and the Soul are separate beings
>Chapter 2 established how Dark Worlds and Fountains work, and it introduced a real alternate route
>Chapter 3 gave us the Knight and partially clued us in on what's going on with the shelter
>Chapter 4 focused on the prophecy and pitted the main characters against it
What did Chapter 5 reveal? Asgore got kidnapped by the Knight? Cool, it kidnapped Undyne two chapters ago, that tells us nothing. Noelle MIGHT appear in the next Dark World? Great, we already did this in Chapter 2, except I suppose we'll be getting even more Suselle wank now that they've confessed to each other. There was an incident involving Asgore in the past, and...SOMETHING bad happened? This is information we've had since Chapter 2, and it didn't take an awkward monologue at the end of the chapter to convey it. This is the problem, not that Gaster didn't hop out of my screen to suck my cock, though that WOULD have been more interesting than anything that actually happened in Chapter 5.
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>>575050610
I would fuck this thing and would draw it fucking male catti
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Seth!
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>>575050241
while the circumstances of the weird route making Kris more lethargic and less interested in their usual narration makes sense, it could also be some "I'm getting my freaking vessel" personality deletion stuff
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>>575051630
>>575051696
Fighting Jevil is also significantly faster than acting and doesn't require you to graze as well to continue progressing the fight in each turn
I have nohit Jevil several times and you can defeat him before he even uses the final chaos with violence, but not with hypnosis
Fighting is easier
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concept art seth looks like they'd piss themselves in a locker while kris fought the knight
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>>575051696
IRRC acting gets through phase 2 extremely quickly, while fighting has you stuck there for a while, and phase 2 has the biggest pain in the ass of an attack.
Then there's all the bonuses that pirouette gives you, and the damage reduction from hypnosis.
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>>575051598
>tired references to moments from better chapters
>4th wall breaking jokes
>vague fnaf tier lore garbage
Nothing of substance
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bit of credit i’ll give toby: in the middle of discourse about people not actually playing games they claim to be fans of and simply reading wikis, he drops a chapter entirely barren for those people, all gameplay and no stimmies. Could’ve been a brief email if you don’t want to engage with platforming. kind of owned them
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>>575051342
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>>575051187
this is awesome anon, I love this mood. very tragic. the soul timidly looking over the corner is a fantastic touch. You are very talented
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>>575051665
>>575051665
aiyo
at least a lot of the art goes hard
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>>575051784
The light world will never have minigames unless it merges with the dark world
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Chapter 5 has definitely grown on me (no pun intended). I liked it from the very beginning but I think, even more than other chapters, this one benefits a lot from replays/rewatches. Like how I found Flowery a very obnoxious and Gary Stu-esque character at first, but now I can appreciate that A. the "too good to be true" bit is both fully intentional and not actually true, and B. he's literally the protagonist of his own story.
Most of all I think it's really interesting how so much of Deltarune has been about these platitudes of "With determination hopes and dreams come true! You can be anything you want to be!", while Flowery's whole deal is literally just that, yet Ralsei is seething with anger the whole time and saying "NO, not YOUR hopes and dreams!" And then of course the chapter ends with us just dashing all the flowers' hopes and dreams and ruining their ideal world forever... and that's in the pacifist route. Obviously there's a little more nuance with how they supposedly can't stay in their Dark World forever without sunlight but you get the point.
I think the inversion of the Omega Flowey fight, especially at the end where THEY'VE got the power of friendship while we have to play as just solo Kris and beat the fuck out of them. And I didn't realize this at the time of first playing it, but the message of "actually, sometimes your hopes and dreams don't come true and you have to resign yourself to your fate" is so sobering, especially after a chapter that feels like goofy filler 90% of the time. It's a lot more subtle then the Chapter 3 ending was with the Knight just killing Tenna, but it feels worse (to me) because we're the ones that ruined everything lol

(wow, that's a lot of words, I hope this ended up worth reading...)
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>>575051781
i dont like this post at all
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>>575051696
According to people here, violent Jevil is harder because he stays in certain battle phases for a bit longer than in pacifist
I personally didn't notice anything different
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>>575051342
Yes, this Is a good thing. One Piece will always be my favorite piece of fiction said Noelle Holiday
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Speaking of Jevil, does reducing his defense do anything?
When I was fighting him, I didn't see any differences in damage he received before and after.
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>>575051794
>What did Chapter 5 reveal
Suselle and Ralsei's gender
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toriel's fight in undertale really goes hard for some reason. drags on for a bit but it's cool that she just stops attacking if you're about to die
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>>575051857
concept seth tumbling down a hill for 2 minutes
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>>575051187
I love this so much
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>>575051756
If Toby is trying to do game dev role meta commentary it makes sense you have characters who act as a group and it's not just Gaster doing it all
Gaster as a god or Satan feels like power scaling them too hard anyways. One of the first things that happens is the survey program getting overridden and your soul going to Kris instead of the vessel. Not to mention, what does god need with a factory? How is it we even can get the eggs in the first place?
People just really overplay the gaster thing.
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>>575051720
I still don't think anything he could do would top how effective of a character he was in UT but I would like to see him at least do something fun later. I honestly hoped we'd get to see him at the festival somehow, though maybe he's simply fated to have a cute little scene during the credits since him having a major plot role out of nowhere right at the end would be a bit weird
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>>575051943
the only anon ITT who played chapter 5, apparently
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pluey's DENSE MAT of pluebes
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I think the idea that Kris and Noelle are just dead comes from the misconception that Toby FUCKING HATES YOU if you play his evil routes he programmed into his own game and solely created them to punish you for being a bad person instead of actually saying anything meaningful
If you think Weird Route's only purpose is to go "FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU" to the player, then yes it'd make sense to think it'll just end on the main characters dying because you're an evil bitch asshole fuck you, but that is not the purpose of it
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>>575045730
Rudy is fucking dying…
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>>575047156
I just noticed the cobson
kill yourself
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>>575052028
You have to reduce it multiple times for it to have any noticeable effect
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>>575051952
only the strong will survive
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>>575051794
The Knight being present at "the original scene" and Asgore's notes being "mixed up" + the Pink scene is more concrete and relevant info about The Knight and FRIEND than anything we got in Chapter 4
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>>575052167
i wonder if people who think wr is a big fuck you have even played it
it's so obvious that it's liberating noelle
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>>575051794
>knight was present the day Dess disappeared, Asgore found the shard that day
>Plantners exist differently than Darkners
>Secret boss hinting that Kris and the Soul will reconcile
>Rudy is in danger/death is being accelerated
>someone owns a bunch of FRIENDs
>Susie is in giga cope mode and Kris does not want to interfere with it (Kris forces us in the balloon if we don't walk Susie to the school)
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>>575051794
I noticed this too, 5 was expected to be this big ass loredump for me because we're very close to the end of the game now but, pretty much nothing new is shown except that we could now say the lost girl is Noelle. Which means half of the things we know about dess is now scrapped. Dess, who is just completely out of action and I doubt will ever appear in the game at this point.

loved the chapter don't get me wrong, but it has really bad tidings for the ending of Deltarune just answering nothing about anything.
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>>575052263
fujo goin for those tennanuts she just like me fr fr
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>>575051943
I like your post. Imagine a thumbs up in your face
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>>575049962
In all level of the story including meta their dynamic is Kris as the hero moving the story forward, Ralsei the self aware entity who knows what's going on and Susie the borderline delusional but full of genuine hope hero. That's probably why she has a twisted fate coming to her in the near future
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NEW POAL
>https://poal.me/tog5yv
https://poal.me/tog5yv
>https://poal.me/tog5yv
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Just saw the Seth concept art and damn, if Seth looked like that in game that freak would have a lot less fans. Also further confirmation (as if we needed it) that Toby loves ambiguous sprites and probably actively encourages it.
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>>575051943
Agreed, people speculate Kris is taking Flowery's seeds as some kind of poisoning plot, but I think it's gonna reflect the main theme. Even though the flowers failed, someone was touched enough to carry the seeds, maybe to plant another Flowery one day. Kinda like shards, or something.
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>>575052425
the apple scene was very kino here
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>>575052305
>Secret boss hinting that Kris and the Soul will reconcile
It's hinting that the SOUL must do everything Kris wants no matter what because you should just be grateful to be in Kris's body at all even if you don't want to be
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https://files.catbox.moe/zfoqor.mp4
the 8th flower
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>>575052305
>Susie is in giga cope mode and Kris does not want to interfere with it (Kris forces us in the balloon if we don't walk Susie to the school)
That's not what I took from this scene at all. Kris likes Susie and wants to comfort her, of course they'll walk to school together. If you stand in the way of it, well fuck you.
Then things suddenly change when Susie starts talking about involving Noelle. It's a part of her giga cope mode, but Kris does not like it one bit.
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I unironically had more deaths to solo Aqua than Pink and Flowery combined
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>>575052305
we already knew the knight was present
wtf do planters have to do with anything
reconcile over WHAT. We still know nothing
Rudy was already in danger brother you know he is in a hospital bed right
useless information
we already had numerous scenes where Susie tells us how she prefers the dark world
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>>575052560
thank you, brown...
i'll miss you...
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>>575051943
It's very good (probably my second behind 4) and while I agree with your post it is the most visibly flawed chapter. I think it should have moved the main plot forward a bit more even though I appreciate the themes. I also think Asgore was written far too incompetent, he really should have had SOMETHING to show for 7 years of telling his family to fuck off
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>>575052603
Me too. I never had to learn how to deal with Omega Flowey's knives since you basically can't die during that fight
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>>575052460
Then why specifically mention the warning labels? Why only of this one flower? Why take the seed packet immediately? Why not rip up the shelter code first, a much more urgent task, then take the seeds when Susie comes back?
The only reason to take the seeds immediately is because Susie would freak out if she saw you taking them.
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>>575051943
Of course I made a >minor grammar mistake, I meant "I LIKE the inversion of the Omega Flowey fight"

>>575052143
It's less a result of me playing it and more me standing in the shower thinking about it a month after it came out lol

>>575052460
I really am curious of what Kris' 8D chess elaborate plot consists of at this point. I don't think they're just blindly following everything the voice on the phone tells them because of the Berdly-feather-deal with Seth, so I wonder if they were explicitly told to get the flower seeds or chose to do that themselves
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>>575052674
>we already knew the knight was present
No we didn't
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>>575052674
>Rudy was already in danger brother
Being sick and being injured in an emergency are two different things.
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>>575052453
I squealed and said hi to rudy when I saw him at the festival
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The Maddie/Mewmew and Player/Kris parallel doesn't work when you consider Maddie actively chose Mewmew and wanted to be her from the start
We wanted our Vessel, but we were forcibly hijacked into Kris
If anything it would be a better parallel to a hypothetical where we get our vessel and its will still conflicts with us anyway
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>>575052453
>Kris... before, I didn't think I could be a hero.
>I wasn't good enough. I mean, I was... bad.
>I still kinda am bad. In some ways, I guess.
>But now, I... I got hope crossed on my heart.
>Hope, written in truth. Written somewhere...
>Written somewhere no one can erase!
I locked the fuck in, leaned forward and everything
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>>575052842
I support the Kressel theory, so I think this is exactly what happened already.
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Card Castle is such a disproportionately small and bland area compared to everything else in the game. I don't hate it or whatever but that's true and a bit strange in retrospect
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>>575052880
chapter 4 was just so fucking good it's ridiculous
i can't wait to replay it
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>>575052167
WR is evil but it is just such a different situation from UT's genocide that people who think that just coke off as over-parallelizing. Which yeah there is a rhyme but "we will kill everyone in hometown" like it's genocide 2 school shooter boogaloo isn't where it's headed at all.
Besides, ditching hometown early already is implied to fuck over everyone to the point there was the need for a B side contingency.[/quote]
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>>575052910
How did the vessel get sent back in time and aged down?
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Remember Kris! You can turn off Roarings and Final Prophecys in the Config Menu!
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>>575051187
kwab
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>>575052880
For me it was when Susie caught Kris. I've always kind of liked her, but this is when I switched into
>I must protect this smile
territory
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>>575052842
i stand by mew mew being a rushed boss they just put in there because thinking of anything cooler was too much time/effort
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>>575052674
>we already knew the knight was present
No we didn't dumbass
The Knight being somehow involved with Dess's disappearance basically eliminates every cope alternative to Dess Knight, unless you think Carol or Rudy kidnapped their own daughter and framed Asgore for it
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>>575052912
it’s better than cyber world
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>>575052842
>we get our vessel and its will still conflicts with us anyway
This would be so retarded and pointless. The vessel must have a different relationship with the player than Kris does or it would serve no purpose narratively that Kris can't already.
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>>575050825
She does this in chapter 1
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>>575052956
It didn't. You've chosen what the vessel would become, down to what it likes. It's like clones in Star Wars.
Instead, the vessel became Kris.
>Copies are monochrome, but you colored us in with care
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my top 5 boss fights
>sound of justice
>ERAM
>queen
>tenna (final)
>titan. it wasn't that fun mechanically speaking but it was really satisfying
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>>575052912
It's Chapter 1. Have you ever played a game before? The first levels of a game are always shorter and blander than the rest of the game as they're easing you into things.
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>>575051187
>tfw found mom's enormous dildo collection
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>>575051794
That's cuz Chapter 5 exists to make sure the people in the back who aren't paying attention know certain details of the story that were previously only implied in flavor text or secrets.
Think about it for a second, there are probably dozens of streamers and a hundred thousand viewers who only found out that Asgore was investigating the dark worlds because he said it out loud in a mandatory cutscene halfway through Ch5. There's stubborn people who like to ignore all the meta aspects of the game that needed Ralsei to mention the Battle HUD. We needed Susie sleeping in a supply closet so peeps would go back and actually read the text in Chapters 3-4.
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>>575053137
That would be incredibly lame
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>>575053218
And the people who haven't understood yet Ralsei is trans, now thankfully chapter 5 made that clear.
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>>575051251
Hometown might as well be dead. Its a game that doesnt exist when Kris and Noelle are not around. Their cycles wont even function. Carol wont even miss Noelle because she won't be.
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>>575053232
for all of a second i seriously thought my computer was like actually dying because it's a piece of shit and it was loud as fuck and it came out of nowhere while it was really silent
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>>575052460
Kris taking the seeds is part of a very tense scene like them looking at the Shelter door at the end of Chapter 3, it's not conveying the hopeful tone you're suggesting. Like the other anon said, there's no reason to mention the warning labels except to imply that they're dangerously toxic, and that should immediately bring to mind Chara's "eating poison flowers" suicide plot from Undertale.
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which chapter has the best music?

I might have to go with 4 but it's so hard to decide
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>>575052780
Good points true, but at least regarding this one
>Why only of this one flower?
Flowery was the only one that got cut in half and fell. It's true they all need special care, but Flowery's condition looked to be the least likely to survive. At least the others miiight have Maddie. Though this is still just speculating Kris even feels anything about Flowery, Flowery certainly seemed to not like Kris very much.
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when you think about it, beyond flowery, chapter 5 also suffers from not having any hype or aura moments. there's just nothing that made me go "wow"
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>>575053305
?
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>>575053218
Somehow I genuinely forgot/was surprised when Susie's cool Dark World outfit I had made turned to dust in the Light World, so I think making sure all the basics are well-established before the final two chapters where shit gets REAL (hopefully) is a smart idea
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>>575051402
Thinking Toby is going to make you wait 2 years just to watch sprites of 2 dead children is FriendGaster tier retardation. Toby loves creepypastas and devoted a multi year ARG to weird route, it wont be an irony poisoned non ending
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>>575052950
I dunno about that fully because Ralsei seems to know about the weird route and tells Susie that there's not really anything they can do when she mentions him in chapter 5. He seems resigned to it, and doesn't even try to get us to change course. My takeaway from that is that weird route will "work" prophecy wise but it's not going to be fun
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>>575053415
Bro? Your jumping across a massive gap near the start of the Cliffs while the drop in the music played and the sun rose in the background?
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>>575053137
That's retarded and doesn't explain why the choices you make in the vessel creator are saved or why the vessel creation scene even exists beyond a cheap rugpull
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>>575053232
I was fully expecting this noise or something similar to jumpscare me after the jingle finished
https://youtu.be/_FGxzfsQ3B0
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>>575051187
Holy SOVL
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>>575053218
>a hundred thousand viewers who only found out that Asgore was investigating the dark worlds because he said it out loud in a mandatory cutscene halfway through Ch5
And it has zero relevance to the plot, so why does it matter if they never knew?
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>>575052453
The Chapter 4 weird route made me feel like some kind of eldritch god. It's a feeling i've not felt from a game before.
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>>575053305
Wrong. Ralsei Is questioning If he should be trans.
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>>575053218
makes sense desu
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>>575053154
sometimes when I'm reading a post and I realize it's one of THOSE posts I shift to reading it in an increasingly obese voice until the voice's hypothetical cheeks and lips are too fat to speak from, causing the noises escaping them to become indiscernible mumbles and groans. this was one such post
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>>575053137
This still puts random time travel in the game.
Is there any reason to believe the goner maker sequence is supposed to take place like 16 years before the events of the game rather than directly before Kris wakes up?
And why would Gaster know you're about to meet Kris if "Kris" even existing is a result of the vessel creation going wrong, which Gaster probably wouldn't have known would happen?
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>>575053558
yeah it was really, really cool when you jumped from the vents to the dialogue box
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>>575052453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Us0DZgexw
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>>575053628
isn't that just fat tenna tf
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>>575053218
lmao the chapter 5 was shit on purpose cope gets worse every week
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What people need to realize is that chapter 5 is really bland and obnoxious if you don't want to fuck any of the flower people
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>>575053636
Is there any reason to believe naming the fallen human and all that bullshit in the intro and the various Cahara dreams you see in Undertale took place 100 years ago?
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>>575051413
Thank you!

>>575051456
Then I have succeeded. Very high praise, thanks a lot!

>>575051538
Just a couple other fun pieces.

>>575051913
I am a huge tragedy fan. I’m very glad it comes through properly and not as cringe as it feels. Thanks!
>>575053538
Thanks anon!
>>575052134
I’m so glad!

>>575052976
That’s a new one. Thank you I think?

>>575053174
>it’s a snail dildo

Saying thank you too much equals spam, very cool 4chan.
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>>575053851
this. they were the worst part of the game. aqua was endearing at first but that wore off fast
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>>575053879
>different game
>different character
>different story
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How small is Aqua's chest? Is she fully 100% flat or does she have a little bit there?
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>>575053879
the cahara dreams took place one million billion years into the future and you're just having visions of those events
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>>575053923
>she doesnt know
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>the first scene in the game isn't important please forget that it happened
ok toby
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>>575051187
I think this was my request. You did an amazing job.
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>finish chapter 7
>it was all a dream
would you clap?
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>>575053879
Still doesn't explain why Gaster knew you were about to meet someone who was the result of the vessel creation going wrong
If he knew your vessel's personality was going to be discarded and replaced with Kris's, why would he even bother letting you make it? Why is there a different voice telling you it's been discarded?
What would the point of the entire scene be?
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jesus fucking christ, i think im going to cry, i found some massive new evidence for my 'susie is a darkner that consumed dess's soul' theory

see pic related, this is an off-hand comment that susie made in chapter 2, but if my theory holds true, then susie is thinking of when she was dess, and had noelle as a sister

when i read this shit i nearly fucking screamed

so far the current evidence for my theory is:
>'how to draw dragons' never formed as a darkner
>tracing of a purple dragon under dess's bed
>7 years overdue book dates to first known fountain made and dess's dissappearance
>no parents that we know of
>the fact that most of the secret bosses have origins in the merging of darkners with lighters in various forms
>spamton tried to kill kris and take his soul, he thought this would take him to [heaven], is that his word for 'light world'?
>made a weird joke about secret identities
>her theme is a guitar + has s_neo as filename
>ch.1 susie's description 'LV1 Dark Knight Does damage using dark energy.'
>susie and dess are both punk girls at heart
>band instrument is drums, and we see drums in dess’s wardrobe
>susie wears shoes which is unique for a lightner, piles of shoes in dess's room
>numerous references to susie being purple, a dragon, and both combined
>catti is wary of her for no reason
>toby's twitter teased a variant of 'lost girl' with susie's leitmotif
>the weird shit sans says as he’s handing out ice cream

All of these little clues seem to be pointing to the darkner of the purple dragon trace killing dess and claiming her soul to become what we call Susie on that night 7 years ago.

I CAN FUCKING FEEL IT BROS

I AM RIGHT. THIS THEORY IS THE ONE TRUE PROPHECY
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>>575053218
Yes, Asgore having a fucking black shard and actively investigating the Dark World would have been a huge lore bomb. If we didn't learn that already in Chapter 4. Obviously it still works for the casuals who probably don't even know Asgore used to be police chief, but it gave the game away for the Truck Freaks.
I really think Toby overplayed his hand with Asgore's monologue here, you could keep every other bit of foreshadowing about Asgore's role except this and it would have still been really impactful. But this was saying too much, he blew his load and we had to scrape together crumbs from what he actually told us (which was still significant but you have to really think about it) because he didn't have really have another big reveal in the chamber.
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>>575053989
>(re)inverted kris colors
it really is
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The Vessel, like all other Goners was from Protorune, the original game made in RPG Maker. Deltarune is a retelling of Protorune.
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>>575054068
Yeah, it’ll sound like a really loud clap.
>>575054029
I’m glad you liked it, thanks for being my guinea pig request.
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>>575054128
holy shit
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>>575053349
I do want to say 4 but it is just like 10 versions of "Dark Sanctuary"
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>>575054170
i don't fucking care how many times the algorithm pushes onto me these dumb fucking videos about "protorune" i'm not watching them and i'm not reading your theory, i'm a firm grandpa semi believer and it'll stay this way forever
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>>575053989
Should Flowery come back to life? I think the vibes and message work better if he doesn't but I think he will.
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>>575053232
I was tense as fuck while playing the Mantle games because I didn't know the manhole was just a Z-Rank thing. The Ice Key jingle might as well have been a jumpscare at that point.
The actual jumpscare was the dumbfuck game crashing five times in the third game.
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>>575054087
Suselle is incest then?
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>>575053469
I mean I suspect even if you did have the full genocidal/twisted route theorists go on anbout after getting the vessel there's a "correction" in place. For instance ERAM might count as a prince of darkness and endlessly respawning Goners (or the knight even?) might qualify for the monster in the prophecy. So they'd just force their way into your party in place of the fun gang you killed. You can keep killing them but they just keep coming back to slot in for the prophecy. Meaning that if you do the end fight they'd carry out the banishment of angel's heaven all the same.
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>>575051267
>cathartic
KIDDO
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>>575054078
Dess stole your vessel's pronouns, name, personality, hopes, dreams, she took everything.
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>>575054068
Just like my seventh favorite Mario video game, Super Mario Bros 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPXtir65p40
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>>575054238
i'm a sucker for happy endings so i hope he does
i want to see ralsei flush angrily at him but smile in the credits
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>>575054253
I dont fucking know man, i dont understand where toby is taking that relationship, if you could even call it that. they talk so much about 'i can feel her heartbeat'
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>>575054275
(Not what I believe will happen, I just am using that as an example to show that there is very much a way to still have the end be the same even if you genocide hometown)
Maybe a true subversion path exists via the eggs
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>>575053851

https://poal.me/dqkdim
https://poal.me/dqkdim
https://poal.me/dqkdim
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>>575054236
>semi
This too is Protorune
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>>575053879
Dreams being flashbacks is an incredibly common trope. "Name the fallen human" isn't really comparable to the vessel creation sequence where you are picking out parts and putting them together with real time feedback from Mystery Man. "Name the fallen human" is also recontextualized by the genocide ending which implies that the fallen human's name is whatever you personally tend to name RPG protagonists because they're spiritually linked to the urges you feel while playing RPGs. The intro vessel being Kris all along would be meaningless.
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>finish burger
>it was full of cheese
would you brap?
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>>575053851
How could you not want to fuck this?
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>>575054087
It's still pretty out there for me but it would solve a ton of things. I really think a reveal like this is one of the few things that could snap Kris out of their pro-roaring bullshit that's not just literally saving Dess
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wonder if we'll see ralsei using more fire magic in chapters 6/7/8 and 0
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>>575052392
tennanut milk pipis piña colada at the deltarune bar...
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Green, Aqua, and Blue are based on your Vessel.
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>>575054551
we just saying shit now?
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Gaster made the goner maker sequence and made it save your choices just to troll you (FACT) (Tricky Tony Approved) (Toby Would Do This)
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>It’s so gold
Literally why the fuck did he say that?
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>>575054608
Ralsei when he sees Toiletery
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>>575054361
I suppose it would be cute...
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>>575054087
man that would be so fucked up, idk if tony is tricky enough to put literal incest in the game though
id kill susie to bring dess back anyway
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>>575054596
Ralsei is in the pipes
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>>575052534
That imagine is wrong because Kris doesn't have romantic feelings for Ralsei.
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>>575054608
it was fucking gold that fuck did you want him to say
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It's really impressive how every single character seems to be in on a conspiracy to keep everything they say and do as vague as possible, isn't it? I wonder how Toby will explain this one.
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>>575054416
I shove my dick into Orange and then use her as a living condom while I fuck Pink.
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>>575054719
i mean... they havent kissed yet
*shrugs*
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King is a parallel to the Forgotten Man
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>>575054087
Wouldnt it undermine half the themes in the game if Susie was just another Darkner and thats why she didnt belong anywhere? Also wouldnt Susie be better at playing the guitar and piano if she had Dess' soul.
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>>575054721
collection of dreemurr fur, fat and oils(flammable) congealed in the sewers(depths) beneath hometown
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>>575054608
He's seething because the game economy is fucked up
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>>575054087
Good theory
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>>575054416
Do you think the overlap between sethfags and velmafags is a circle?
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>>575054780
kris is the one who plays piano man lock in
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>>575054601
This is what Kresselfags actually believe
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i like to headcanon the voices in dark sanctuary are ralsei since he was humming it
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>>575054780
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>>575054087
Fuck you. I watched you build this shitty theory from nothing, slowly developing it from pure retardation to something actually very convincing. Within a month there will be hype edits of this.
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>>575054087
can't believe Dess got turned into Gaster's OC Susie in his Delta Rune localization rom hack
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every character is vague because you won't allow yourself to take their words at face value. you are addicted to tony tricks!
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>>575054087
The only real stickler for this is the unused text and the multiple references to going "nowhere" in regards to dess. Asgore and Kris also literally saw whatever happen happen. If she was killed by a Darkner Asgore would put ti together in chapter 5. I'm still pretty firmly in the camp that what she went through is closer to gaster's situation than any standard murder
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>>575054953
well then you will have the satisfaction of knowing you were the first to pay attention to it
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>>575054839
You think the Holidays bought a grand piano for someone who isn't a member of their family?
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>>575053954
I think considering Aqua's size she Is likely completely flat
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Were you hoping that Ch3 / Ch4 / Ch5 WR would have been a repeat of Ch2?
>go in ‘the wrong direction’
>kill enemies instead of frightening them off
>entire sequence is a sped-up, eerie version of the normal chapter
>ends with dealing some kind of irreparable harm to the Light World
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>>575054791
>Toby made Ralsei canonically seethe at Flowery causing inflation
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https://files.catbox.moe/d8ucj6.mp4
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>>575055047
i think they bought it 'cause they're filthy rich and live in a mansion and no one plays it, same thing happened to my piano
they're lucky kris used it so much
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>>575055047
i think maybe they bought it with the intent for dess to play it but she gave up on it like she gave up on all the other shit in her room and as the holidays and the dreemmurs were close kris came over a lot and played it
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Dess drowned in the lake which is actually the town's water supply. Everyone in Hometown is drinking Dess-flavored water (with a hint of onion) and the Holidays are the only ones who know so that's why they only drink bottled water.
This is Ralsei's light world form. Real leak by Foxy Tob.
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>>575053415
>Flowery having a fucking full FMV intro and voice acting
>Garden of Hopes and Dreams
>Meeting the Fallen Human flowers
>"My magic, my Omega, can you follow!?"
>Petal Feather platformer transition marking the end of the Chapter 1 nostalgia baiting
>"Sunset of the Seven Suns" area transition
>Asgore showing up in full battle armor, knocking Kris and Susie out of the Dark World, and staying half framed in shadow in the doorway
>Ralsei casting Fireshock
>Bravery SOUL mode
>everything in the Weird Route culminating in finally actually breaking the fucking game
"It wasn't that exciting if you don't count the chapter's main antagonist" is a fucking stupid argument by the way, it's like talking about TV World without Tenna
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>>575055115
this too is fucking Yiik
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>>575055115
Ralsei is the cum in Kris' balls
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>he hasn't figured out that FRIENDs are black shards of the knight's sword given form by the knight's determination
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Finished chapter 5!
>Mew mew fight
I made a bigger deal about its difficulty than I should've. its hard in the first half but it ends sooner than I thought it would
>Pink coin items
pretty cool but literally im still just running black shard, shadow mantle on kris, Justiceaxe on Susie, and jeviltail, dealmaker on Ralsei.
>Flowery
The voicelines grew on me despite my initial annoyance and the idea that he made himself "godlike" with fake stats to keep the facade of a perfect world for Asgore made the fight ultimately pretty satisfying.
Currently using the mod on Deadlock that changes Shiv into Flowery just for the fun of it.
>Kris still being a douche
I'm gonna break his dick in half if he doesn't stop >:(
>Susie lives in Castle town
I partly suspected it but honestly came as a shock to me and gives me another reason to emotionally attach myself to it
>Potential Noelle recruitment
I don't see it happening, she's probably never going to leave her father's side after the fall

Tomorrow I'm gonna start the weird route save but I have a feeling that most of the differences will be isolated to the festival
Overall, I REALLY enjoyed this chapter and Im not sure why some anons here call it a "filler" chapter.
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>>575055014
my answer to this is that a lot of the 'nowhere' references in regards to dess no longer apply if you are someone who believes that the chapter 5 weird route is the amalgamation and creation of the dark knight, their souls being ripped across time and space, references to going out of bounds - and therefore many of the 'nowhere' references that we all thought were talking about dess were actually talking about noelle
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>>575055061
I didn’t expect it to just be the exact fucking same as the main route I can tell you that.
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>>575054608
Ralsei is making the “conflicted emotions” face so I can only assume:
>gaudy statue spits out Dickhead money minted by that Dickhead he fucking hates
>Kris obviously had fun hitting the piñata and collecting all the coins
>Ralsei has to hold his tongue but he feels he still needs to make some kind of comment, because its expected of him
>Wow that was… Shiny… (Visibly trying not to cry scream and shit himself at the same time)
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>>575054087
Undertale Clam girl though…
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>>575055154
>lolsorandumb bullshit
>exciting
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>>575054460
>Dreams being flashbacks is an incredibly common trope
Dreams being flashbacks of a different person centuries ago isnt a common trope, and the dream is portrayed as a vision not a memory, its the most textbook example of Toby subverting expectations. Practically every one who played it the first time thought Frisk was named what they wrote because thats the most logical conclusion after hearing your name being called out then told to wake up because youre the future of humans and monsters
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>>575055061
I was hoping for more playable characters but I was a firm believer of the Weird Route being a Noelle only thing
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what’ll be next chapter’s gimmick?
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>>575055254
>Suzy
Different character.
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>>575054087
I think you were eating a little too much fruitcake when making this theory.

Would be kinda sick if it's actually true though
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>>575054087
how the fuck do you even explain that to an average player without sounding insane
if this turns out to be true, toby has a huge explanation to do
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>>575054839
What. Didnt Dess play piano too?
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>>575055398
Item that lets you freeze things like in Weird Route but you just use it for solving zelda puzzles
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>>575055398
jiggle physics
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>>575055254
yeah i got nothing on that. although I note that the 'suzy' being Frisk's age would mean that if she... 'fused' with dess, it would de age dess down to being Susie's age?
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>>575054087
toby will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever make incest canon ever
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>>575055154
weird route was good but the other stuff means nothing to me, e.g. i enjoyed the fandoms speculation for the fallen humans more than what we actually got; they were too quirky su muppet chungus to be lovable or enjoyable. the platforming was cool but mechanics mean nothing if the story and build up aren't there. ralsei's development felt wasted because everything was so poopy, asgore in armor meant nothing as he did nothing, etc.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohBLWsjZD4w
>“10 years ago I made a song that sounded like this.”
>“It's called "The Sunset of 7 Suns."”
>“This is the hope for Chapter 5 from 10 years ago.”
So this must have been made for a completely different context than the version we got in the game, right?
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>>575055484
Could be nothing, but this was added to I think the Switch version of Undertale shortly before Deltarune dropped (might need to double check that.) Seems too close but true Suzy doesn’t exactly equal Susie.
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>>575055532
pro-incest will be the next woke agenda once being faggot and trans is normalised

screencap this
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>>575055115
Dess drowned in a water tower like in YIIK
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>>575055048
She should honestly let me grope her chest. Only for scientific purposes of course
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>>575055398
plot
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>>575055478
ralsei's cheeks bouncing whenever he jumps... yes, i like that...
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>>575055532
you didn’t know lanino and elnina are siblings?
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Okay but really though what did Toby mean by giving Ralsei such intense sexual tension with an adult human male
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>>575055583
I am now a Woke Warrior. I will see Nolan's Odyssey in IMAX 500 times.
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>>575055478
lancer is just animated like that one overanimated mario gif
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>>575055281
>your mouth
>my dick

>>575055543
You were complaining about there not being enough "hype moments and aura" moments but now you're saying "that doesn't count because it didn't live up to my expectations in hindsight"
It kind of just sounds like you're a miserable faggot
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>>575055550
Maybe so
It's always stuck in my mind that Heartache was originally meant for fighting Jevil of all things
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I have a theory that you can choose any noun in the English language, add the word ‘theory’ to it, and you will somehow be able to bend it into a semi-comprehensible Deltarune theory. I call this 'Keyword Theory’
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>>575055532
which is why suselle will sink once that plot point is revealed, but the tragic ending will ruin susie's attempt a krusie reconciliation and everyone will end up cucked
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>>575055714
ok
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I want to get smaller_pred vored by Orange
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>>575054087
>no parents that we know of
She lives in the apartments and has to move around a lot, do you think she pays her own rent and randomly decides to move for no reason?
>he thought this would take him to [heaven], is that his word for 'light world'?
No, Heaven is Heaven. The opposite of hell, the depths beneath the dark world. It's above the light world.
>made a weird joke about secret identities
Are you referring to the scene where Noelle is coming onto Susie as she and Kris are about to enter Castle Town and she misinterprets it as Noelle knowing about their secret identities as heroes in the dark world? How does that support your theory?
>her theme is a guitar
Can you really not think of any reason Susie might have parallels to Dess aside from literally being Dess? A ton of characters in this game have parallels to other characters without actually being those characters.
>catti is wary of her for no reason
Catti has a crush on Noelle and became jealous of Susie when Noelle told her that she's interested in Susie. This is spelled out in chapter 5.
>the weird shit sans says as he’s handing out ice cream
What does this have to do with anything else you listed?
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>>575055532
Blue and Yellow?
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>>575055216
Jevilstail is objectively inferior to several of the Flower items, they have huge stats.
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>>575055642
I wish
>>575055796
not even incest can save them
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>>575055735
>The Ladder Theory
Go ahead, try to do something with that
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>>575055735
keyword theory is what someone would call the blue checkmark puzzle from cyber field being the ice-e crossword
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>>575055735
Ingluvies theory
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>>575055398
Doom FPS gameplay
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>>575055532
I mean, Asriel and Chara was kinda incestous...
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>>575055550
yeah this sounds like something big is on the line but there were no stakes of any kind in 5
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>>575055671
What would they be like in the future as a domestic married couple with crossbreed children?
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>Im gonna start a Weird Route save.
Happy Ending status? BRICKED.
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>>575055889
I MEANT JUNIOR JUMBLE
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>>575055596
All you have to do Is tell Aqua you want to play a touching game and she would let you!
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>>575055671
he needed to feed the jp/kr women
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>>575055936
oh it's a schizo
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>>575055735
Go.
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>>575055871
"Eckhart saw Hell too. He said: 'The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you', he said. 'They're freeing your soul. So, if you're frightened of dying and... you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJztRnDxdM8
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>>575055791
Relax my friend *winks at camera* After all, it's just a theory
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>>575056039
Toriel, Queen and Spamton are notorious drunkards
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>>575045780
fem top chef. 100% genderbent deltarune mod here we come!
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>>575055995
What if Undertale 2 came out and revealed this was actually just Chara squirting ketchup on everyone's faces
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>>575056049
ralybro...
this is one of my favorite movies, great taste
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>>575055995
>i-is that a single morally dubious decision?? A-AIEEE ITS CHARA OUR CHARA CTER IS GOING INSANE
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What were the retarted theories about this puzzle
again?
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>>575056039
Queen drinking battery acid out of a wine glass is a metaphor to how Carol gets drunk and abuses Noelle
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>>575055896
true and thats his otp
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>>575056003
Too late. You've already exposed yourself as a filthy crosswordfag. The Junior JumbleGODS will have you killed.
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>>575056130
I like that the yellow or red character swap with blue because blue is feminine in deltarune
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>>575056039
need i say more?
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you ever get anxiety over what people could be saying about you on utg when you’re not reading it
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>>575051187
this is great. someone please make this next OP image
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>>575055995
Nah the weird route will be key to getting Gaster In the happy ending
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>>575055791
people were right about this guy, I don't disagree with any of his arguments but his posting style is insufferable
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Carol shoved a full corked bottle of wine up her vagina at a Dreemur party
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>>575055061
No, but I did expect more changes to dialogue and events. The lack of changes really made replaying chapter 3&4 for my weird route save a chore.
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>>575056225
>blue is feminine in deltarune
berdley? jockington?
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>>575056169
Originally it was believed that using only Blue and Yellow pieces to complete the puzzle would summon the Three Green Bitches who would give you a cypher leading to the GoDaddy website where Tony hid all his hand-drawn Frisk x Chara /ll/ hentai
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>>575056237
no one ever talks about me ever and they never will
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>>575056039
The battery acid lake (which is like an alcohol lake for Queen) confirms >>575055115
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>>575056283
not disproving my point there
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>>575056237
no, baby girl
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>>575056225
blue is blueminine and pink is pinksculine
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>>575056008
True, I will only need to find and convince her before she runs off!


Also, kinda insane how the two hottest Aqua images (so far) were made super early after release.
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>>575056149
I'm known to be a connoisseur of kino on occasion.
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>>575055857
It'd be so hot if they were brothers
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>>575056346
i feel like the most feminine characters in the game at the moment are toriel and ralsei and neither of them have blue in their color scheme. could you explain yourself
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>>575055995
yall are too paranoid with the whole "Muh file will be ruined if i do weird run", like bitch, it was just a fuckass scribbled photo in the tpe, flowey certainly didnt act like everybody got killed in the surface, and yet you guys are shitting bricks because of it
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>>575056039
Toriel Is an alcoholic which Is fucked up because she's a teacher for little kids
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>>575056237
I don't think anyone thinks about me. Although I tend to get into discussions with the same anons I recognize due to their texting style
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>>575056325
Does that mean Queen and everyone drinking battery acid in the Dark World is drinking Spamton juice (not to be confused with S.Potion)?
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>No, Heaven is Heaven. The opposite of hell, the depths beneath the dark world. It's above the light world.
Kek people take this nigger seriously?
Spamton “prays to the audience”
Spamton looks directly at the player when he says this.
The Angel’s image is pure darkness, reflecting your own (presumably fat and hideous) face.
Heaven is the real world that SOULs come from. End of story.
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>>575055115
what if dess actually drowned in the same lake and accidentally went out of game’s boundaries by doing so
there’s no way she could easily disappear in the woods/anywhere else with absolutely no traces
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>>575056237
I’ve woken up to a full night of trolls shitting the thread about me and it really just goes the same as if you were awake, people will say whatever and you shouldn’t agonize too much over it
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Green is a feminine color in deltarune
This means Gaster is trans
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>>575056474
Would you accept Spamton's creampie?
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>>575056510
Yes, reality is above the light world. You agree with my point.
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>>575056280
speaking of chores is there a flag for heating berdly up in the hospital I totally forgot to stop by on my WR save
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>>575056408
it would be hot if they were hot but as it is it would be like the McPoyles fucking
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>>575056426
and don't give me that "that's indigo" there be blue in those hills
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>>575056449
>flowey
Do we know if Menu Screen Flowey is even the same instance of Flowey that experienced the endings?
More to the point even if he was would he just be like: “Hey retard I say Chara butcher your friends in cold blood your save is bricked unless you delete sys_info_692 and 693 also FUCK my moms tits are huge later bitch”
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Okay, which one of you is this
https://x.com/seththesperg/status/2079711211805892742
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>>575056706
holy fuck i knew you were going to post this blatantly purple outfit and call it blue. kek!
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>>575055532
Ralsei and Kris
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>>575056686
You have a year, probably more, to do that.
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>>575056706
It's purple brother
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>>575056785
sasuga
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>>575055828
Damn really?
fuck I should've gotten at least one more coin then.
I was kinda getting burnt out playing it all afternoon and evening that I just wanted to finish the chapter.
maybe in the weird route I'll take a gander but I cant imagine anything being better than the black shard so probably just an item for susie or ralsei
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>>575056734
kekkk bodied that freak
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>>575056392
I really love that Image too! There's also an animation of Kawkaw using It's tongue to pump Aqua which I thought was really cute and hot
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>>575056734
Average /utg/ nbigot
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>>575052780
>Then why specifically mention the warning labels?
it could be a red herring plebbiters mentioned some seed packs irl have sticky or stain warnings
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>>575056790
It's not incest to have sex with a formless mass of darkness shapeshifted to look like a hotter version of your brother
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>>575056838
I wouldn't worry about weird route.
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>>575056608
Accept 9999999 times yes
I will also give him plenty of creampies back clopen fat joke double entendre
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If the Weird Route bricks my save why did they call it the Weird Route and not the Double Holocaust Route?
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>>575056884
>golden seeds
>seeds which were used in Chara's suicide of undertale
>Kris chews on apple seeds in the weird route, which can kill you if you eat too many
>"it could be a red herring"
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>>575055596
This loli belongs in a MATING PRESS!!!
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does aqua have 3 eyes or 1
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my epicley epic fem sans sprite
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>>575056449
Flowey stayed underground. He wouldn't know if they were killed.
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>>575056607
Sadly Green Is not a creative color
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>>575057019
i'm the only aqua fan that thinks she's cooler with one big eye instead of 3 eyes... it's over for me...
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>>575057024
this will be the real The Girl from the Prophecy btw
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>>575056838
fuuuck I forgot to get the pink coins in WR flower kingdom I gotta go back now
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>>575056908
well I already have the save all the way up to the end of chapter 4 so I might as well play it especially if theres content for it in chapter 5.
Unless you mean that I shouldn't worry about the items in it in which case I get you but also its the save where I actually fight.
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>>575056893
It's meta incest sort of like chasriel is stepsibling incest. There will be no hard incest obviously but that would only be the case if ralsei was actually just asriel which we already know is not true.
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How does Spamton not have a Wikipedia page?
He dropped during Covid for Christs sake
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>>575056734
this account has been shilled here enough that i'm certain it's an anon, i'm waiting for someone to get upset they got banned after fans spam report and not understand how to evade it on twitter
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>>575056838
>maybe in the weird route I'll take a gander
You better, anon, you better. Can't have a bricked save.
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>>575055995
>xhe thinks the weird route is the bad ending
normalsisters are gonna be in for a rude awakening when they find out doing exactly what the villain wants you to do results in a bad end
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You are tasked with babysitting Lancer and Aqua for the whole day.
How fucked are you?
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>>575057234
I die, because I can't dodge knives
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>>575056510
>The Angel’s image is pure darkness, reflecting your own (presumably fat and hideous) face.
No. You haven't gotten to that part in the game yourself, you're parroting misconceptions from people who've only seen screenshots.
The prophecy panel is blocked off by a pitch black structure in the foreground, so while it's presumably blank in the files because the player simply isn't meant to see the angel yet, it's most certainly not a pitch black image within the actual story.
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>>575057234
i buy sleeping pills. someone is getting fucked alright
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>>575057043
Not according to the alarm clock dialogue
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>>575057301
>The prophecy panel is blocked off by a pitch black structure in the foreground
That's not true either, you can see into the room
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asriel nuzzling against ralsei and kris walks into the room like wtf are you two doing and asriel explains that it's a way for monsters to greet one another but kris lacks fur so kris can't do it
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>>575055871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPHMcpuYeA
>Ladder = Climbing
>Dark Sanctuary = Prophecy music
>Dark Sanctuary = Ever Higher
>Ever Higher = Crumbling Tower = GUARDIAN

>* ... Kris.
>* Trying to decide between.
>* Levitation spell, to save parents.
>* And immolation spell.
>* To turn the tree, into blazing pyre.
>* ...
>* After that, I'll try. A bigger ladder. Maybe.
>* Kris... careful. You know not... the forces you betangle.
Catti describes the FIGHT/SPARE dichotomy, but the real answer is to simply get a bigger ladder and keep climbing. Follow the path.

>* KRIS.
>* THAT'S RIGHT. YOU.
>* I NEED YOU. TO BE BIG. WITH ME.
>* SO BIG WE'LL STAND UP TALL AND SEE PAST THE DARK
>* STAND UP WITH OUR HEADS IN THE CLOUDS AND LOOK INTO
>* H E A V E N
What's at the top of the ladder? What do you reach when you stop climbing?
What else, but HEAVEN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGpW9CLlxwM
>* (It's a manhole. There's a ladder leading inside.)
>* (Enter it?)
>* (You climbed into the manhole...)
After casting Snowgrave, Noelle leads you to a forbidden path. At the end of it is a manhole, with a ladder to climb. Not climb up, toward HEAVEN, but down.
>* (Every cell in my body was screaming at me to run away.)
>* (... that if I stayed by your side any longer,)
>* (You were going to drag me down with you.)
>* (Drag me down somewhere no one is supposed to go.)
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>>575057227
>xi jinping thinks doing the grim sidequest won’t brick zhao’s save
Keeeekaroo! You’ll be shivering in your clogs when you get to the end of Chappy 7 (after missing out on ALL of Chapter 6 keeek) and a hyperrealistic 3D Kris head starts spinning while screaming bitcrush style and your ears bleed as rotting zombie faces flash in black-and-white a millisecond before the game crashes with a loud WHIRRRRRR sound and your save file gets feckin deleted, FOREVER! kwabotyyy!
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>>575057019
Aqua In her breaks changes her eye count. The breaks prove the flowers were able to choose how they looked and they have the ability to shapeshift as Seth created a form that looked more human for Orange but Orange refused.
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>>575057394
>...
is HE the angel? and HIS DESIRE is being FREED from the prophecy (aka BANISHED)? pretend i posted those bible quotes here
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>>575057408
What an effortpost, anon, bravo.
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>>575057227
Whereas killing and raping people results in a good end
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>>575057427
Toby is planning this. Source: he told me himself.
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>Ralsei knows fire magic and is implied to be strong enough to engulf entire dark worlds in flames
thoughts?
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I wish there was more love art of kriselle being stupid together
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>>575057128
Without spoiling you further weird route diverges from the main plot.
You have enough time to do it right now, it doesn't take ten hours.
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>>575057408
damn he did it
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>>575057491
makes the rape all the more satisfiyng
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>>575057330
>get ready to babysit lancer and aqua
>buy lube, sleeping pills, condoms, and rope from the walmart
>finally time to babysit
>i eat the sleeping pills and pass out
>wait for lancer and aqua to rape me
all according to keikaku
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>>575057427
…ok that does sound pretty scary actually.
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>>575057427
Which Deltarune character would talk like this
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>>575057394
Play the game and get to the part yourself, you can just barely see a bit of the shape from the negative space in the hovering depths texture behind it.
If it was supposed to just be a black image, there wouldn't be foreground obstruction to keep you from seeing it, it'd just be a regular prophecy room with a blank panel.
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>>575057408
Chaos is a ladder
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>>575056861
Her tummy movements at the end of that Kawkaw animations are super cute!
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>>575057408
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Alright let's check out /utg/
>rape
>rape
>rape
>rape
>rap-
I'm going to have to fucking filter the word "rape" at this point
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>>575057491
Ralsei is a W62 warhead inside of a Minuteman III (LGM-30G). The bunker at the south end of town is a missile silo.
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Remember /utg/? I miss /utg/.
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>>575057594
berdly would say kwab
he does have the bejita drip on
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>>575057427
nonny...
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>>575056838
You can always just go back to your Chapter 5 save and get them later if you want, you're not locked out of anything since you can't save after fighting Flowery.
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>>575057538
it is satisfying to know such a powerful being wants to use your body as his plaything...
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>>575057708
i can still hear their voices...
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>>575057483
>it's not killing if we let the villain do it in our stead!
Susie tier naivety. I'm looking forward to your melty when the villain's plan goes off without a hitch thanks to your efforts.
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i miss anonymous...
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>>575057301
Nobody thinks the prophecy panel is blank in-universe. That wouldn't make any sense. The foreground object blocking it is meant to reflect the player from the player's POV, that's obviously not what the characters see. There are many other obscured objects in the game, including the final prophecy panel later in the same chapter, that the characters can see while the player can't, so choosing the foreground object that can show the player's reflection for this particular obscured object is a specific choice by the game and not just an arbitrary one to block off the image.
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>>575057594
noelle's computer
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>>575057408
>>575057651
gaster, who didn't think of any of that:
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>>575057671
>The russians woke up
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The "angel prophecy is the player's reflection" theory is the most reddit shit ever conceived
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If Deltarune was a 90s anime you’d see a lot of Ralsei and Aqua upskirts
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>>575057671
The final panel of the prophecy is actually Ralsei being aimed at the portal that spawns The Roaring, the resulting explosion being which will allow the two remaining heroes to close it.
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>>575057764
you fucking get it
powerful being that could probably look like anything but he chose to be adorable and squishable just for (You), the player and even though he could end you in two seconds he's too obedient...
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I hope I can be someone's eloquent and polite Ralsei bf someday...
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>>575057780
You mean the plan that has resulted in 0 deaths so far and we don't actually know? If you mean the Prophecy, then their plan is literally the same as the heroes, and the only issue is the final part.
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>>575057661
If you don't do the normal route you're literally a rapist and a bigot
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good morning chat

>>575057886
you can do it fren!!
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>>575057851
don't you don't like bravely default
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I dont think gaster is going to be evil
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>>575054087
both susie and noelle have admitted to playing dragon blazers 2, and they both did the weird route within that game. I suppose its not insane to say that dess and noelle played it together

>got it in the lost and found, even though it wasn't mine!, haha
would be fucking wild if it turns out that it really was hers. Dess's I mean... and also susies.
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>>575056734
yoo that nigga is getting ratiod lol
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>>575057408
Based ladder knower.
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I’d let the soul and Kris weird route me if I was Noelle. It’s my job as a deer to have a tragic, but beautiful end.
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jarona test
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>>575058048
>It’s my job as a deer to have a tragic, but beautiful end.
:(
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>>575058056
in his dark world you get the Flowery Whip as a reward for all pink coins
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>>575057957
it is currently midnight, also thanks <3
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HNNNNNNG I SPAMTENNA IS SOOOO EROTIC
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>Tectone plays Deltarune
>Figures out darkners faster than the girl behind the Universal Mother theory
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>>575057661
Don't come to /utg/ if you don't want to engage with the primary subject matter of Deltarune
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the angel panel shows the vessel
it creeps susie out because it has no face
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>>575058056
i don't know if i should tell you to kill yourself or if i should kill myself
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>>575058056
Kris, you can turn off whip cracks in the config menu. Please....
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>>575057834
gaster who lowkey might have considered that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh8eaKSjEYw
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>>575058048
Ewww.
Noelle is like a sister to Kris. They don't see her that way. We are forcing them into emotional incest.
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>>575057893
>you mean the plan the villain wants us to follow
Right. That plan. That plan from the villain, the plan that isn't being disrupted at all in the normal route, the villain's plan. That plan.
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>>575058210
Look at me. I’m Noelle now.
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>>575058132
Cool advertising for your literal who bro
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>>575058256
do you want to incest
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>>575057975
Gaster might not be "evil" but he's not "good" either. He's an uncaring scientist only interested in getting results for his experiment.
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>>575057612
>Aqua licking
Oh no...the struggle of getting her to lick parts she shouldn't
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>>575058132
>implying Queen emulating the character's mothers is a "theory" and not a reading of the text
fnaf may be more your speed, little chibi.
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>>575058301
Yes, Kris, we’ve gotta find Dess.
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>>575058201
can someone repost the lyrics to this an anon wrote?
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>>575058152
>the primary subject matter of Deltarune
And that is? Go on, tell the thread what the fuck is the subject matter of Deltarune.
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>>575058152
>the primary subject matter of Deltarune
Fatties?
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this game makes me sob like a little bitch at every sad moment, no matter the context
how do i fix this
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PLUEY DOWN
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>>575058132
that nigga had to give up his guns because hes a rapist
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>>575058048
God that's a good image
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>>575058414
Nonconsensual sexual intercourse
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>>575058118
>non canon timezone
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>>575057813
>choosing the foreground object that can show the player's reflection for this particular obscured object is a specific choice by the game and not just an arbitrary one to block off the image.
The entire chapter uses pitch black darkness as its whole gimmick anon. Are all the echolocation segments Kris walking around inside our face?
The obfuscation method for the final prophecy wouldn't work for hiding the angel prophecy. Keeping the camera panned away from it worked because Susie was separated from you and destroys it before you're able to see it. Randomly panning the camera away from all 3 heroes looking at the angel prophecy would make no sense and have no reason to happen in the story. Meanwhile a foreground object hiding it is just convenient enough to work.
Whether the Player is the Angel or not I just disagree with the face reflection shit, sorry. The game is conveniently blocking off what the characters are meant to be seeing with the same pitch black gimmick the rest of the chapter has been using and that's all there is to that scene.
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>>575058238
The only thing wrong with it is the last part, and somehow every single Deltarune fan has missed this. Every single character is fine with it UNTIL the last part. All you do is side step the last part. Hell, even if you don’t, the world is still saved.
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It is weird that I am okay with Aqua sexualizing images and posts, but I am utterly revolted and angry when I see any posts sexualizing that damn TVman?
Dunno what that says about me.
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>>575058551
You're m*le.
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>>575058551
you have a phobia?
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We dont need TVs
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>>575058551
Kris?
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>>575058629
Mike, shoot this guy.
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>>575058407
what’s the name of the vg archive i forget
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>>575058536
By then the villain will have taken away all your cards. It won't be your choice to make.
Never let the enemy dictate your course of action.
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>>575057882
>Pushing Buddies graphic over Kris' finger hovering over a launch button for the ICBR (InterContinental Ballistic Ralsei)
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>>575057043
except that he would only know about Frisk living a good life up there is if he went up and saw Frisk chilling out there, otherwise for all he knew, Frisk mightve acked themselves after telling Toriel that they've got places to go
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>>575058449
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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5 nights at Ice-E's
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Damn. Spamton is so easy. I've thought he'd be a challenge on Snowgrave, but he has literally nothing on Jevil
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>>575058504
Nta, but how do you not understand that similar scenes can have different contexts?
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i think the susie = dess theory is pretty good but i just think it's too fucked up for toby to basically make noelle and dess lovers, i dont think he has it in him
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>>575058793
We love him for the charming personality not the fight.
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>>575058845
I want noelle to kiss her sis
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>>575058536
Anon, you know a prophecy is a guide right?
Let me put it this way: How do you expect to get the Good Ending of a game if all the options you picked along the way were aligned with the Bad Ending?
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i love my boyo ralseo
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>>575058841
Why are you so certain that the pitch black foreground is supposed to be your reflection? Why is this taken for granted like something that's been confirmed in the game?
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>>575058629
We don't need [[Easels]] or [[CRTs]]
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>>575058910
i love your boy ralsei too
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>>575058737
That’s not true because we have time travel. Once we know what the final part is and smash through it blindly to see what happens, we can avoid it.
This is what happens in Undertale’s pacifist route.
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My Prince!
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>>575056252
>>575051187
Seconded
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>>575059017
And avoiding it will be following the weird route.
Too bad your save will be bricked by that point. He'll already have it, that thing, your [DELTARUNE].
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man, why do Undertale/Deltarune piano covers suck so much ass? i looked for a Flower Castle piano cover expecting peak, and like, 99% of the instruments were stripped away with the left side only pressing like one two three one two three like shit i didnt think people could fuck up a song so badly holy shit, do any of you know any good deltarune piano cover channels?
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>>575058504
>The entire chapter uses pitch black darkness as its whole gimmick anon.
That gimmick doesn't involve foreground objects inconveniently blocking your view, it's just dark in those rooms. Other obfuscation methods used throughout the game that could have worked for this panel
>object just off the edge of where the screen cuts off that's described with flavor text when interacted with because the characters can see it and you can't
>object facing away from your perspective (think the racing game in chapter 3) that the characters can see but you can't
The characters can also see the prophecy panels before they're in your line of sight, so it could have just been shattered by something else. Make a Titanspawn do it since they appear everywhere anyway. All of these methods would have worked to obscure the prophecy panel from the player while the characters can still see it without putting a big reflective object right in the middle of the screen from the player's POV.
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>>575058978
<3
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Does anyone else get the vibe that Deltarune became a refugee camp for Fnaf fans this chapter or am I schizo
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the player isn't even the angel btw
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>>575059017
>That’s not true because we have time travel.
Time travel only allows you to compare the choices you've made.
It doesn't give you new ones.
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>>575058914
Because Undertale did the same thing with the Angel, saying they’ll “come from above to free the underground”, which you do in both “true” endings.
The angel not being us just doesn’t make sense from every angle. It’s been proven that Kris DOESN’T require us to close fountains; all you need for that is a human soul.
We are here for some other reason. Plus, who the fuck else would be the angel?
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>>575058881
you can do all the options related to the bad ending then back out of it before it gets too bad so you reap all the benefits without perma-fucking shit up while still getting a good ending, Aborted Weird Run with thorn ring on my pocket ftw!!
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>>575059081
No the one piano cover/arrangement guy I enjoyed hasn't done anything in twelve years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sbIRj4dypA
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Why did Deltarune suddenly add traversal gimmicks starting with Chapter 4?
It's just an odd decision and makes the game feel very inconsistent. It just makes it clear the game was made on the fly with no clear plan in place.
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>>575059183
I wouldnt say exactly but Fnaf is sort of dead and it sucks now isn't it?
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>>575058536
You seem like the type to complain about getting the alignment you didnt want in SMT because you couldnt be fucked to pay attention to what you were doing and thought it would simply have all the reps stretch out their hands halfway through and go "HERO, choose my ideology!"
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>>575059230
The IRL face reflection thing being wrong doesn't mean the player can't still be the angel, you're literally making shit up that I wasn't saying.
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>>575059230
Whether the Angel is the Player or not is a different argument from "the artistic intent of this scene was for You to see your face in the reflection of your screen"
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>>575059217
>It doesn't give you new ones.
Bro hasn’t played 999 or Steins;Gate or seen Back to the Future or interacted with any time travel media since that’s literally every single one. What the fuck is the point of time travel if you can’t unlock new choices with it?
Again, undertale does this.
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>>575059251
>without perma-fucking shit up
You're still getting chapter 6. You're screwed.
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>>575058551
I think that's normal, Tenna was written to be a pathetic and narcissistic character that does nothing but cry like a broken record about how much of a victim he Is. Even Kris hates Tenna
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>>575059312
You forgot the teacup rides
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>>575059356
So what was the point of making the Titan initially present as a big bald man before turning into the cool star face thing
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>>575058326
I kinda feel like you are not actually trying to stop her...
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>>575059312
teacup rides in chapter 2, sneaking around in chapter 3
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>>575059365
Deltarune isn't Undertale. Undertale was about the power to SAVE, from the very first demo. Deltarune has done absolutely nothing significant with that concept so far.
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>>575059312
thats because toby got bored of making a rpg so he's trying to cycle through gimmicks like a mario party game, starting with Chapter 3's board shit gimmicks then doing climbing shit and now he did a Megaman Zero gimmick for chapter 5
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>>575059498
The weird route deletes your save.
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>>575059471
The titans are manifestations of your biggest fear, the bump in the night
Noelle had a fear of humans under the bed
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>>575059346
>>575059356
This is pedantic as hell
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>>575059383
Berdly isn't dead so they can't call me a chud for telling the doe to iceshock people
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>>575058130
we really are living in the spamtenna renaissance right now
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>>575059070
You think the glowing voice man who made the game for you can be thwarted by something he put in the game himself?
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>>575059678
>>575059678
>>575059678
bread
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>>575059392
You don't sexualize pathetic narcissists getting humiliated and fucked?
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>>575059624
>Berdly isn't dead
Truly, the worst ending.
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>>575059589
What save, anon?
When did you save in Chapter 5 WR?

>>575059607
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts
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>>575059498
>Deltarune has done absolutely nothing significant with that concept so far.
toby didnt add any yet because he knew the dataminers would find it within day one, thus he's holding onto it until chapter 7 releases
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>>575059474
W-what?! No...I'm a good anon!
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>>575059471
Titans possess the features of Angels (real humans) despite coming from hell because they're imitations. Copies are monochrome.
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>>575059652
There are no truly omnipotent beings in the game other than Tobias' hypothetical self insert. Gaster was a failed mad scientists, the interloper is merely an interloper, etc, just like Flowey/Asriel wasn't the god they played themselves up to be in Undertale.
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>>575059701
No but If I did It would 100% be snuff
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>>575059652
The extent of Gaster's influence on the world of DELTARUNE is foreshadowed in the influence Tenna had on the game of MANTLE
The Legend of Tenna was built off of the original game, the sword route, and put hard guard rails onto it to replace it with "a blasted line from A to B", though you can still find cracks unaccounted for by Tenna where the original game seeps in
Deltarune is Gaster's modification of a hypothetical original Deltarune that he guard railed away from the freedom of the weird route by creating the Prophecy
He didn't create the weird route, he tried to bury it under the Prophecy like Tenna tried to bury the Ice Palace and Susie's casual prophecy fuckery allowed her to break off the intended path in Chapter 2 and leave you with Noelle at the crossroads
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so in the far future if this place survives the ending of deltarune and into toby making non-utdr games do you think thisll remain strictly /utg/ or will it just become tobysoft general
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>>575059968
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmbased
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF7Pm9oKnJU



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