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Previous bread: >>575135826

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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Chips ahoy, landfaggots!
Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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SEX WITH THE FOX
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>>575151884
this thread
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this is the original noelle concept by temmie
how can you call her ugly?
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>>575151698
Noesei. Flowery is more masculine and you can have masculine with masculine but there's nothing they hate more than feminine with feminine regardless of straight or gay.
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>>575151953
cute
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>>575151937
I want to stick my penis inside her and by that I mean sex
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>>575151937
and this is the canon in game design
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>>575151735
so when is toby calling in for the big millie song for Dess' appearance
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>>575151735
im like 90% sure Black Knife is just the name of a color fixer
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ralsei butt
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uncalled for
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOXfrealye4
Me when Aqua Deltarune lifts up her skirt
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It's so obvious who the knight is. And what Kris is trying to do. And what's in the bunker. And what the FRIENDS are for. And what Gaster's involvement is all about.
If you don't know all these things you're media illiterate.
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>>575151953
The real reason kris has that expression is because they keep thinking about all the gore dess showed
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>>575151884
Might be the most beautiful ship in the game
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I luv me wife.
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Dess...
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i wonder if noelle is really like me in the sense that she has surface level appeal but when you get to her true repressed nature it becomes obvious to any normal healthy good person how insane and mentally ill and poisonous she is
i might be projecting
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I like how anyone trying to "prove" that Noelle is ugly ends up falling flat on their face. Unlike Noelle, who's snout would get in the way.
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>>575152012
i don't know if this is true judging by the popularity of stuff where men cross-dress and date women, e.g. princess jellyfish
that said i feel like if noelle and ralsei do have a lot of chemistry and a ship spawns, ralsei will probably be twinkified/hit with the bishonen laser. which is kind of Lame but it could still be cute, too... clenching my fist
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>>575152223
It’s gonna be canon bro.. just trust the process
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>>575151937
Even in the original temmie art her head is twice the size of her face and her head is 1/3rd of her entire body but we all know how she actually looks in the game so the concept is moot.
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severe lack of female energy in these threads lately. get to posting ladies
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deer's have 2 sets of tits
https://files.catbox.moe/1jjy8k.png
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>>575152168
Give me a good theory for all this and I'll kneel and call you a god while you insult me.
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Host jackbox now or im banning you
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>>575152271
That's even better
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>>575152223
i can see the appeal of this but i still prefer them as platonic pals
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>>575152135
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>>575151818
Hooman!
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>>575152242
chara at too much fucking chocolate
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>>575152332
Dess NEEDS to have a goofy side to her as well as a rebellious edgy side.
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>>575152382
That theory... that good theory... oh it was enlightening...
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>>575152386
you must take up the jack mantle
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Bratty looks like a hooker
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>ralsusie happens
>kris and noelle get over their baggage but ultimately go their separate ways
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oppa gangam style
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>>575152382
this artist's ralsei rocks
something so fey and whimsical about it
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>>575152271
Im sure you're not that bad anon.
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>>575152306
Not in a million years, I'm not delusional like self-inserters. I'll still enjoy any interaction they have in the game and crack fan art that we get
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>>575152524
Note: Kris committed suicide off screen
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>>575152386
I'm going through intense withdrawals. Surely he'll come back, right????????
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>>575152521
and thats a good thing
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i love my very cool and handsome husband. who would NEVER leave me EVER for ANY reason WHATSOEVER and would be completely LOYAL in UNDYING LOVE until the day we DIE. no there's no weird reason i say that why are you looking at me like that. it's just a normal thing to be reasonably happy about
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>>575152332
i can't look at this dess design without thinking she looks like fucking corkus
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>>575152223
i feel like ralsusie took much less of a hit than the other non-suselle susie ships after ch5, ive been seeing it around a bit more that the others. idk why
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>>575151937
Where was this revealed?
The most striking detail to me is the hand hooves. That should've been kept.
Or are you pulling my leg and this is random fanart?
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>>575152616
he left us in a cardboard box in front of an orphanage in the rain.....
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was the thorn ring being the "seeds of a soul" real or was that just a collective fandom hallucination
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>>575152650
humor for losers
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I think Ralsusie could have worked as a sort of merged version of Ralsei and Noelle's characters and narratively have the same role Suselle has
Ralsei and Susie aren't meant to feel attached because their love is impossible, this feeds onto Susie's escapism fantasy and causes conflict for Ralsei knowing he shouldn't desire this forbidden thing that can't happen but really wants to.

Otherwise I think one sided crush from Ralsei is pretty angstkino too and would add so much sauce to his character
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>>575152665
Fluffy boys and mean girls go together like bb and j
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>>575152524
just like Toby Fox intended
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>>575152301
>that said i feel like if noelle and ralsei do have a lot of chemistry
They have never interacted with each other, Noelle just sort of stood there vacantly (seriously she doesn't even look surprised, she's just standing there with her default blank expression) while Ralsei explained some roaring lore stuff before laughing with berdly and queen.
I just don't see them ever getting anything in game together.
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>>575152403
See I agree but in particular I think they'd be really good platonic pals who platonically play wrestle with full genital contact
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>chapter 7
>hheeeennnnhh
>hheeeennnnhh
>I did things
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>>575152732
undertale and deltarune are for losers
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>>575152524
should have added ralsei and susie become king and queen of the dark world
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>>575152789
it's for whimsychads actually
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>>575152730
if you want confirmation there is none
the "LOVE finds its way to the girl" seems more likely to be the lake skip stuff more than anything
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>>575152465
I smiled. Good one anon
>>575152665
I don't think it's very popular, but I'm ok with that.
>>575152403
Even as just friendship, I think is precious.
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>>575152765
>I just don't see them ever getting anything in game together.
have you finished chapter 5
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i wish i could draw...
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>>575152646
If she were an actual hooker you wouldn't have said that
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i wish i could draw...
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>>575152741
It was weird seeing Susie go from wanting to hang out with Ralsei and sharing cotton candy to basically just not interacting with him individually anymore. Truly a wasted character dynamic considering they are the two party members that can both talk to Kris and each other about whatever they want and there's apparently just not much going on between them right now.
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>>575152779
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>>575152678
according to the op, it's from undertale 10th anniversary
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susie more like boozey
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I wish I could wish...
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>>575152947
>>575152989
*throws this possum at you*
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Persona 1 had an alternate route called the Snow Queen Quest, wherein after doing some backtracking and talking to a bunch of npcs in a specific order you normally wouldn't, you find a cursed mask, your teacher puts it on, gets possessed, and freezes the school, which derails the game's plot (sort of; the post-credits scene of this route is a "sequel hook" for the normal plot). Notably it was cut from the original american release (most likely due to running out of time/budget) and if you use a gameshark to brute force yourself into the questline you run into the localization being incomplete with many scenes displaying glitch text due to it trying to display japanese characters without the proper font. And so the route was surrounded by an air of mystery and foreboding (despite not actually being tonally different from the rest of the game) in the west prior the PSP version restoring it.

A forbidden route involving Ice Magic and the game breaking... now doesn't that sound familiar...
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The piece of fan-art I've seen that's closest to canon is the one where susie finds out someone who's good at playing a piano is called a pianist and then goes around introducing kris as a penis.

Except for the end where ralsei cries, he would just go "um, susie... I believe it's pronounced pianist." in a voice trying to convey that he's not desperately hoping she stops calling kris a penis.
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I opened the Bluesky app, something i rarely do to catch updates from people who don't use Twitter. It told me that Deltarune was number 3 trending. (Or maybe it's a subset of trends that relate to "my interests?" but one of them was literally SpaceX.) I tap on it and this is the first thing it shows me.
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>actual hooker
ralsei...
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>>575152717
;_;
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>>575152981
if actual lizard hookers existed I'd have cummed to death already
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>>575152934
Yeah, did Noelle do anything with Ralsei?
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>>575153137
why are they fat
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>>575152428
boys
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yall ever wish you could just point at random people and have hearts come out
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>>575152765
I have no idea what would Noelle and Ralsei's dynamic even be admittedly
They feel like very similar characters by design that aren't meant to intersect, in a way this sheer divide between two out of the four main characters of the game barely acknowledging each other is something that always bothered me about the story so far, but I don't know what could they say to one another.

My worst fear is there'll be a repeat of Chapter 2 where Noelle and Ralsei just sort of existed together but none cared for the other's presence. I guess Noelle did acknowledge something about This Boy That Looks Like Asriel, but after Chapter 5 where Asgore had a very disappointing reaction to Ralsei I wouldn't bet anything interesting is going to happen.
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>>575152338
>>575152074
>>575151937
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CONSULT THE MEASUREMENTS
Her midface is LONGER in the concept art
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>>575153187
Mean question to ask
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>>575153041
Based OGsona enjoyer
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>>575153041
It's pretty interesting that it exists, but there's already so many alleged influences of the weird route that at some point we gotta accept some of it is coincidences.
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>>575153192
I've wished I could point at people hand have their eyeballs explode out of their skulls or the heads instantly roll-off their shoulders but not have hearts come out, no.
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what if mario fell into the underground?
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>>575153192
i dont need to wish because i already do that
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>>575152998
Susie wanted to take ralsei to the festival too.. doomed
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>>575153050
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>>575153241
because TOBY draws the portrait sprites, not temmie
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>>575153308
That’s world 1-2
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>>575153050
I’ve seen way worse here?
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>>575153221
Maybe they'll be like Susie and Noelle where they talk about their relationship. They'll both say,
>Do you think they would be friends with me?
And then in chapter 7 they'll be friends, and you'll know because they talk about how they ARE friends.
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>>575153192
I wish I could explode people with my mind
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>>575153050
based
don't like his face though
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>>575153050
bluesky is roughly people who hate twitter and elon and people who are like the first but believe using bluesky places them beside civil rights activists and both groups have innumerable perverts in their ranks
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Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time passing.
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I’d find it way more interesting if ralsei was jealous of noelle and hated noelle that’s just me tho
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does anyone here PLEASE have the drawing were kris is all bloody while eating dess's pussy/in between her thighs
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>>575153458
Dude Musk was fucking begging to go to Epstein Island. Do not act like Twitter is somehow above anything.
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>>575153129
lot lizards are real but unfortunately humanoid. kind of
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The only way that transfem Ralsei makes senses to me is if he just does it because Susie says he would be hot as a girl.
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>>575153501
chapter 6 bro
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>https://deltarune.com/togoretastic
NO. FUCKING. WAY.
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This dess is still hot
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>>575153501
Meh, I don't like it. Feels as if they have "my friend's friend' syndrome
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>>575153485
Nobody cared that much about the retarded, gay flowers.
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>>575153632
i'm gonna click on this and it's gonna be the sleeping dog (with a rare chance of maraca dog) right?
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>>575153050
it's bad enough I have this fetish
even worse that it's half full of furries too
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It means being a liar, holding back and not caring about the danger that is Kris.
I genuinely doubt that Ralsei has identity issues but his problem is his conscience because he's so fake toward his friends.
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>>575151930
WE as in ALL of US itt agree
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>>575153605
Ralsei ends up feeling like he’s being replaced as the mage in the group and kris is also feeling like susies replacing them with noelle it’s peak
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>>575152998
>It was weird seeing Susie go from wanting to hang out with Ralsei to basically just not interacting with him individually anymore
Ride the Ferris Wheel with Susie
>* Yeah... Ralsei told me... I should ride with you, y'know?
>* 'Cause... he can't go.
>* ...
>* He's pretty chatty, y'know. When you aren't around.
>* He was like, combing my hair this morning...
>* Asking me about all the rides... what I was gonna eat...
>* Just... looking so excited for me, I guess.
>* ...
>* He's real, Kris. They all are.
>* It... wouldn't make any sense if he's not.
Ralsei and Susie are close, they're literally living together now
We (Kris) just don't get to see it. Which is too bad, but that's where fans are supposed to step up.
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>>575153669
Whoopsie That was meant for >>575153401
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>>575153485
>Dess and Asriel kidnapping the CEO of Royal Sciences in the Holiday mansion basement because they think he's an alien
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WHY COULDN'T SHE MOLEST ME

WHY GOD DAMNIT
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>>575153485
I think I’m just going to wait another month for /utg/ to get better
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>>575153658
Dess if she felix the cat bootleg
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>>575153060
How much do you think he charges by the hour?
>youtube has censored the regular upload of this song from even being searched for
Grim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxWRG8dgaTQ
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>>575153796
Bait
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>>575153834
>>575153669
That's the neat part! You don't have to like it! It'll just happen, and whenever you say it sucks, you'll get dogpiled by people saying it's GENIUS and that you didn't understand it properly!
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>>575153335
well LUCKY for you anon, toby made it even SHORTER
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>>575153642
The implication that Ralsei is like a cartoon caricature of a boss monster is pretty funny
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>>575151671
>>575151579
5 minutes in paint, her hair looks like bangs or a hat (pompom on top) and the thing on the right looks like some Master Hand type thing holding puppet strings with a bald Spamton/Nightmare Snowman head
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Dessss...
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>>575153963
Bait for what
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>fehehehe
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>>575153984
noelle looksmaxxing
>>575154031
TEMMIE FIX HER PLEASE
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>>575154039
NEED TO SNIFF
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>>575154039
unnnnnggghghhh why are backs so sex
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>>575153984
Her face is 9 pixels wide in that last one, if you find that attractive whatever but it's so low res it proves nothing.
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>>575153191
... and girls and whatever in between!
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>>575154031
Why did you scribble over long face Noelle's eyes and call it a hat
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>>575153501
>>575153605
>>575153808
Not gonna happen. Ralsei cares too much about Susie's happiness, even if he is jealous or suffering he'll keep it all too himself for the good of her friend.
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>>575154031
i trust in our lord and savior temmie
if she can did that with seth, she can do anything
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>>575154020
Ralsei is to real boss monsters as Peter Pan/Keebler elves are to humans
>>575154174
She's balding
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>>575153872
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>>575153221
>I have no idea what would Noelle and Ralsei's dynamic even be admittedly
ralsei being a mentor to noelle (and noelle maybe being irritated by that, if wr)
noelle and ralsei both being weirded out by kris and otherwise exchanging anecdotes
weird route noelle seeing ralsei as weak for holding himself back if she ever caught wind that he was doing so
regular noelle and ralsei subtly judging things together
noelle meeting someone who's even more "uncool" than herself
etc. etc.
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Anyone got that Katty and Bratty chest signing art? I need to see Brattys perfect falt chest one more time...
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>>575153408
Telepathly...
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If you go in the dark world with breast implants do they come to life or do they become your equipment.
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>>575154226
Seriously though, you can see the distinct shape of Noelle's eyes in the original, they're just stretched out
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Ralsei in chapter 6 be like:

“do it kris.. just say the word, I’m ready. And I’ll use it on that stupid bitch Noelle.. firegrave.”
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>>575153943
no idea but i'll pay whatever he asks for
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berdgroomer
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>>575154059
A reaction, what bait is always used for.
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>>575153501
That's a job for Kris
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>>575154390
I fucking wish...
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>>575154390
he would never say that
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No really, why didn't Asgore have anything to say about Ralsei
That was so freaking disappointing
The chapter kept teasing something might happen when Asgore sees him but it was all for nothing at all
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I don't think it makes sense for Ralsei to be specifically jealous of Noelle, knowing that she makes Susie happy and that he physically cannot be there for Susie like she can
But I would take literally any significant dynamic between the two of them I'm so hungry for Chapter 6
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>>575154140
BOOHOO, sounds like SOMEONE is jealous that they got mogged (her face is at least 11 pixels wide)
>>575154110
dess bonepilled noelle
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>>575154390
Do we even need Ralsei for that. Apparently if you leave eyes in Noelle's purse, friend.jpeg will find her and kill her for you.
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>>575154247
Dess holding me down and... and....... putting shampoo and conditioner in my hair..
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>>575154340
Meds immediately, this has been dessbunkered.
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>>575154510
asgore didn't say anything about anyone except himself this chapter fucking suuucked
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>>575154518
>>575154390
Fuckin' autocorrect. Sorry. If you plant EGGS on your enemies then friend.jpeg will kill whoever for whatever reason it is they do that.
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>>575154514
ralsei cuck theory
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>>575154518
>eyes
Weird route just got a lot darker.
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>>575154510
no you're not supposed to care about just clap and laugh at the colorful fun cwitters
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>>575154510
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>>575154247
>bathing kris is like bathing a puppy
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>>575154510
rushed chapter, please understand

>>575154514
i had a nightmarish realization that their dynamic could just be ralsei giving noelle susie tips
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>>575154595
>>575154510
More stuff could have happened with Asgore, that's one of the few valid criticisms Chapter 5 gets.
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>>575154510
Its supposed to show you retards that he doesnt actually look like Asriel and his appearance is a deception. How do you not get that when Toby is a Tell, Dont Show storyteller?
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Please bros I need more Bratty DFC PLEASE
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>>575154529
>>575154689
Hot...
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>>575154480
It’s gonna happen it was revealed to me in a vision
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>>575154510
Sadly the only thing he had to say about Ralsei poured fuel on the transfem Ralsei discourse
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>* This BROCCOLI is like the APEX of ICK!
- Tenna
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>>575151818
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>>575154510
If the differences between Asriel and Ralsei are apparent to Kris, you don’t think they would be to Asgore? Ralsei tried to hide himself because he thinks his face is just like Asriel’s, but it really isn’t.
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>>575154595
Hilariously, Asgore is so not present for this chapter that when he finds Kris his only reaction is to say,
>Er, could you leave?
And when you see him again, he yells,
>Leave
Then finally, the third time it's,
>You've grown very wise, Kris

Like man, what the fuck.
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Freaking out about Asgore seeing Ralsei was like freaking out that Toriel was going to wake up or Kris freaking out about Asriel constantly.
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>>575154689
concept of dreemurrs and holidays treating young kris like a puppy is the funniest and probably the best way considering he mostly was like a puppy
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Des....putting my head between her thighs and making me inhale her fumes..I need bush in my face again
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>>575154510
isnt the whole thing that they look nothing alike besides being white furred goat monsters?
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>>575154818
>Noelle enjoying her blonde hair after killing the Angel
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>one pillow
did they sleep in separate beds?
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>>575154805
the fact that’s even used as evidence is retarded though lmaoo so asgore just telepathically knows ralseis pronouns or some shit
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>>575154750
oh my god how many times do we need to be fucking told he doesnt lok like asriel we fucking get it we get it we get it Move on
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ralsei thinks he looks like asriel because he doesn't understand that asriel looks like a man and not a hooker
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>>575154946
They do now
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so many /utg/ lewds created that have forever been lost to time because /utg/ is on a blueboard...
please, anons, make a booru or something
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>>575154946
Rudy has probably been in hospital for a while. Carol only needs the one pillow now.
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>>575154959
Apparrently more because you still have dumbfucks like
>>575154510
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sex with a fatass tv or whatever who cares
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>Flowery is patterned after a mix of Rudy, Asriel, and Toriel
>Ralsei is patterned after a mix of Asriel, Toriel, Kris and Asgore
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>>575154946
nigga he is in hospital
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Ralsusfags aren't ready for when Kris betrays Susie and Ralsei stands for Kris.
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>>575154996
There is a booru but it’s dead
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>>575154750
Then why the fuck did Flowery want to put a hat on Ralsei saying Asgore would have a heart attack, why did Ralsei hide whenever Asgore was near?
Making Asgore literally not give a shit about that just feels so lame and throws all expectations out of the window for nothing, no I don't like the point all along was Ralsei is just being neurotic for no reason because he doesn't really look like Asriel, that is such a boring route the story took
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>>575154529
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>>575155056
he takes literally nothing after kris
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You know what to do
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>>575155083
a dead booru implies no one posts on it anymore
what we have is a broken booru. you're unable to upload any art
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>>575155107
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>>575155018
he gave birth to every pipis you see in chapter 2 weird route
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>>575155079
It’ll all work out in the end…
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>>575155135
flatscreen's already on
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>>575155018
Tenna has mixed feelings on his belly, but only because his head gets jealous of it getting kissed and petted so much.
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sex with a slim tv but he still has a nice shapely ass
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>>575154510
I mean it just wasn't about that. Asgore's arc centered around the flowers as an analogue for him neglecting his family losing himself to the mystery again, and Kris being there to remind him of his real family. There's no room for Ralsei in there.
Maybe it would have been neat for Susie and Ralsei to actually talk with Asgore at the end but maybe that also would have distracted from Kris reconciling with Asgore and saying goodbye to the flowers, there just isn't space for it.
Maybe they could have done something with Asgore mistaking Ralsei for Asriel, both Ralsei and Flowery even seemed concerned about that possibility. But wouldn't that just have been a distraction from the focus on Asgore and Kris? One that doesn't really go anywhere, since Ralsei isn't Asriel?
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>>575155135
The TV is off. Time to play the next two chapters and catch up with the rest of us posting in 2026.
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>>575155016
whenever i get worried that a popular "theory" i despise has a lot of supporters and i could be in denial i remember that most of the population is functionally illiterate, and most fandoms are comprised of speed readers, and i feel better
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>>575155018
>all the dreemurrs have fat guts
Fatass family
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>>575155168
unrealistic cuz she would need a blade in order to get the texture
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>>575154594
I got sloppy with the hair but you can see her freakishly long face clearly
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Dess would start t not because she's trans or dysphoric but she need something for Azzy to suck on
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>>575155214
>pretending asgore had an "arc" in this chapter
nyahahaha.................HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>575155056
>>575155125
>cancel out the Asriel and Toriel in both
Ohh does Ralsei and Flowery actually mimic how twink college Asgore and Rudy were I get it
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>>575155167
a broken booru is technically a booru with broken dreams, therefore it is a booru with a shadow crystal
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>>575155093
Because Flowery was

A) wanting Asgore to stay there and keep reminders of the real world put, he also hid fucking Susie from him in the garden if you forgot

B) Wanting to tease Ralsei to make him realize he could be more of a gigachad instead of a pussy which he SAYS OUT LOUD TO RALSEI SO ONCE AGAIN TOBY IS SPELLING THIS OUT TO THE PLAYER.
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https://youtu.be/t9fgFt-Ibik
Christopher Nolan's criterion closet picks just dropped.
It'd be awesome to see Toby Fox do something like this.
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>>575155290
what we know of dess paints her as too cool and confident of a femchad to even think of touching horse piss. she was living her life and had no room for corny navel gazing about le genda
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man

undertale was so fucking good
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TV DAISUKI!!! SPAMTENNA DAISUKI!!
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>>575154996
I don't know how to make websites
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>>575155079
That's what makes it good. I want to see that goat boy in fucking agony.
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>>575155093
dumb fuck
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>>575155326
I can't wait to fight booruchan in the 4chan dark world and then after the fight instead of becoming an ARMOR or a WEAPON she just becomes an onahole because it turns out some schizobosses are freaky
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>>575155383
where's goku
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>>575155290
But she has boobs?
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i wanna be close to someone
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why aren't there race mixing monsters? they are always paired with their race. catty's family, the dreemurrs, the holidays, gerson's family, ice bird thing. are monsters against race mixing?
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>>575155214
Oh fuck off. The flowers were an analog for being a gay waste of time with a side of even bigger waste of time and a small glass of "Aqua and Seth were actually fun". Flower's suicide run was ketchup to hide the taste.

That shit didn't symbolically resent Asgore or tell us anything real about him and you guys who keep saying this are assholes.

Asgore should have done SOMETHING.
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>>575155341
Bro made like one good original film and a solid batman adaptation and has been chasing that high ever since.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1C-G-Xf81o
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>>575155375
You don't get Dico from estrogen you fucking retard testosterone isn't made from horse piss are you retarded hey everyone laugh at this monkey fucking retard NOW
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>>575155334
Then tell me what is the POINT of Ralsei being a goat boy anagram of Asriel if the plot isn't doing anything with that connection?
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>>575155202
This would fix me
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>>575155290
she fell into the hrt pit and no clipped from the game like gaster falling into the core and getting divided into a million pieces
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>>575155258
I believe you, but she should still cover those up
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>>575155562
who cares, only losers with nothing going for them troon out
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>>575155548
Memento, Prestige, Inception, The Dark Knight, Interstellar, Oppenheimer, Odyssey is a pretty incredible run.
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>>575155202
>>575155396
>>575155590
Auugh he's pure sex, I need to stomp on him
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>>575155341
i bet he'd find a way to bring up Homestuck again like the shill he is
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>>575155540
I'm just telling you what you should already know man, I can't help you cope
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the chapter 5 critics are so fucking retarded good lord
don’t just assume things you don’t understand are stupid or boring
actually stop to think about what they mean, why toby would make the creative decisions he did
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>>575155650
I know I just like to meme on him a lil' bit because he got a big head about being 2deep4u.
Memento really was good though.
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>>575155540
This retard climbed the vine with Asgore neglecting 6 characters in a row and said "huh that means jack shit lol"
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>>575155642
Sorry what Im friends with one of the people who made Cyberpunk 2020 I can't gear you
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>>575155713
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>>575155576
we'll see it eventually i'm sure, but it's very likely he took on a form he thought the player and kris would find adorable. plus
>there's a running meta joke about him turning into a marketable plush
>we've known since chapter 1 he has a fixation on kris, and he tells kris that he's proud of his face even if it looks too similar to someone kris knows (which makes kris laugh, 'cause it's not that similar)
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>>575153221
>susie: oh yeah ralsei knows all about this place and it's mechanics ask him whatever
>noelle immediately starts pressing him on increasingly meta things
>susie: I meant like. your hairclip. becoming armor, dude...
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>>575155540
>Whole chapter is about how Asgore ignoring his family and chasing after a meaningless case resulted in him doing nothing with his life for the last X years while also losing everything
>Why didn’t Asgore do anything?
Btw he kills himself at the end of undertale if you fight him again after Omega Flowey’s battle. He’s the nothinger.
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>>575155638
DAVE STRIDER DESS THEORY !!!!!
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>>575155713
>the chapter 5 critics are so fucking retarded
>don’t just assume things you don’t understand are stupid
do you hear yourself? do you hear yourself when you speak?
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>>575155686
No, you're telling me what you have to believe to maintain the illusion of chapter 5 being bullshit "on purpose".

>You just didn't get it maaaaan. It was like this as part of the vision! You were supposed to, like, realize Blue was Asgore's desire to be a black ballerina with a mentally handicapped cowboy boyfriend. It's so cool when you realize!
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>>575155079
>>575155178
>>575155451
Never ever, after all they have experienced together Ralsei won't choose Kris over Susie, specially after his character development in chapter 5. If he is forced to choose that will be his breaking point.
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Does mad mew mew/pinks head still come off in chapter 5 I forgot
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>Oh, my full name?
>It's OST 30. Chaos King (DELTARUNE Chapter 1 Soundtrack)
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>>575155576
THE POINT IS HE IS INSECURE ABOUT HIS VERY NATURE AND BEING WHILE ALSO TRYING TO COMFORT KRIS

THIS IS SPELLED OUT AS EARLY AS AFTER THE SPAMTON NEO FIGHT

HOW ARE YOU GUYS MASSIVE DELTARUNE FANS BUT YOU HATE TO READ THE TEXT IN DELTARUNE
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>>575155808
did you actually think this was a gotcha
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>>575155778
sa actually
>it's very likely he took on a form he thought the player and kris would find adorable
or maybe someone GAVE him that form cough cough gaster cough cough
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Sucking dess's fat monster clit and having her squirt on your face
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>>575155713
They would rather have burgentruck be canon instead of what we got.
Do you agree, would the incident having been Asgore hitting Dess with a truck improved the chapter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXSTRGDDkgM
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seeing someone in the wild consistently depict carol with sympathy oughh
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>>575155651
i need to make sweet passionate love to him. its not fair
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>>575155959
>fat azzy
FUCK OFF
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>>575155651
Don't stomp on him, you uncivilized beast
Tenna is for tender, loving sex where you worshipfully kiss his body and hold him gently while you tell him how much you love him
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>>575155290
This post is making me angry. asriel gets dess's clit and he should be GRATEFUL and thanking the angel for it every night
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>>575155789
>N: "But why is it called PLAYERTown?"
>R: "Kris, she needs to leave NOW."
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>>575155713
Every day my love of chapter 5 proves more righteous because good lord the most vocal chapter 5 haters are morons.
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Chapter 4 didn't have nearly as much complain as chapter 5, just saying.
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>>575156025
The entire family is fat. Even the TV.
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>>575155576
He's trying to appeal to Kris, Susie, and (You) by resembling Asriel and Toriel but he doesn't actually look that much like them because he's his own person
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>>575155650
I understand not including DKR or Tenet but I liked Dunkirk.
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>>575156051
Thank you for getting it
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>>575155926
I'm sorry but if the entire reason for looking like Asriel is just to appease Kris, that's such a fucking boring reason, I would really really dislike this, I don't want to believe the entire reason Ralsei looks like Asriel is literally just that
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>>575156043
you understand me so well
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>>575155880
Gay teenagers on Twitter who think Ralsei is a woman have a better understanding of the game than you
Reflect on the decisions you've made that got you here
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>>575155505
"The passion of lovers is for death"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FReAJa_7L8
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I think it's cool that Asgore has a sweet scene with his child instead of a dramatic boss fight that we've already seen before and that wouldn't make much sense in this game given that he's the player character's doting father.
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>>575156098
People whined about how easy the titan was and how few attacks it had and how it was “too earlier” and “beaten too easily” and they complained about how nothing happened in both chapters and how the secret boss should’ve been someone else and
Hey, wait a second. These are the exact same complaints! They’re just rehashing!
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oh my god
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>>575155731
It kind of does mean jack shit because if I were Asgore I'd ignore the flowers, too. I recommend ignoring the whole chapter, there was no reason or excuse for it to be this lame.
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>>575156098
Chapter 5's gameplay MOGGED chapter 4, and the bosses were better. Your mileage may vary on the writing but personally I think it was way more impressive having a ton of memorable Darkner characters compared to chapter 4's two (2) NPCs
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>>575156092
This looks like AdventureQuest or DragonFable's art style minus the impractical weak point asscheeks
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>>575155953
He literally has the title "PRINCE OF DARKNESS" . And knowing a pure darkness entity like Roaring Knight can shapeshift seamingly with no effort, i believe he intentionally chose an appearence similar to Kris's brother to kind of make him comfortable while he is around, so he can safely keep an eye at soul without being too suspicous by both Kris and us
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>>575156098
people bitched about the light world segment being too long
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>>575156195
>>575156142
>>575155576
I think Ralsei is a fantasy creation of Kris, inspired by his brother Asriel (we have learned that Kris invented characters in chapter 3). That's why Ralsei constantly seeks validation from Kris specifically to be his own person.
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I LOVE DESS!!!
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>>575156195
At this point as we deep we are in chapter 5 you need to realize toby is always going to chose the most milquetoast boring option for a plotline
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>>575156098
that's because it released with chapter 3, which was the retard filter
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>>575156195
Its not Asriel's dust, Jaru
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green in between and on the computer screen
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>>575156415
ok we get it
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>>575156360
perfected style you can only find 1 in a 200 every post
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>>575155891
>* You... must be really special, Kris.
>* There's a reason why you're the hero.
>* And that's why... I'm putting all my faith in you.
>* That no matter what path we take to get there
>* That even if you do something I disagree with
>* All it means is that I don't understand it yet.
>* ... right?

>* The end of the story... we have to avoid it. We have to.
>* ... but at the same time, I do believe
>* If a happy ending does exist somehow
>* ... it's with you, Kris.
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>>575155891
For Ralsei Kris is loose cannon that risked/let the Knight kidnap their father and almost their mother.
This way beyond unreasonable and still Ralsei trusted them.
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Ralsei has access to magic that could delete a titan from existence
I can't prove it now but I know it's true
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>>575156398
why would kris have no reaction to ralsei being his fursona
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>>575156230
They say great minds think alike
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>>575156439
3 and 4 perfectly balanced character development and plot
5 had neither
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>>575155713
i've stopped to think about toby's narrative intentions with this chapter several times over the last month and my initial conclusion that ch5 fucking sucked ass still stands. i loved ch4 after finishing it, i mostly liked ch3 and grew to appreciate it more over time, i still don't like ch5. the revisionists still going through their honeymoon phase will never gaslight me into thinking otherwise
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>>575156439
imagine how pissed people would be if we got ch3 solo instead of bundled with ch4 lmao it would be way worse than the reception to ch5
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>>575156083
>Well, Noelle, PLAYERTown is named after its monarch...
>Huh? Dude, I thought you were the one in charge.
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i'll never draw good and get paid for it...
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>>575156025
if you saw the azzies I wanted to fuck you'd hurl
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>>575156195
that's right it's anagram guy from the anagram game
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>>575156526
i think he's strong but not strong enough to btfo a fully grown titan, as the knight btfo'd him
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>>575156550
>I didnt like the character development in 5 so it doesnt count
Okay
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Dess giving you lung cancer...
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Im the only anon itt to TRULY LOVE Dess... WITH MY INNERMOST SOUL
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why
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>>575156560
People would be too in shock than to be mad. Like dude not only Roaring Knight made an appearence and got a secret bossfight, but also the chapter ended with Kris going into the Bunker.
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>>575156597
Even people that draw good rarely get paid for their skills
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>>575156283
Gay teenagers on Twitter are taught in English class that if Mark Twain mentioned the color blue anywhere then you can make it a commentary on being transgender because school teachers are desperate for anyone to even be making that half-assed effort.

"The flowers are symbolic of Asgore because he, uh... is a green chef sometimes or like one" is like a C+ English paper, anon. This is so fucking miserable I hate this so much.
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>>575156526
Ralsei doesnt want to reveal his destructive fire magic attacks because he is scared of the player having access to it.
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>>575156732
human idiot makes worst concievable puzzle solution, asked to leave underground
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>>575156732
Red ball: Papyrus
Blue X: Sans
Green tringle: Dirty Brother
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>>575156195
He exists to serve. Everything about him is calculated for this purpose. He’s a Darkner, a thing, made to play a support role for the two Lightner heroes, and especially the human who can seal the Fountains. In Chapter 4, he expressed hope that things might change… by the actions of someone “amazing,” like Susie, who has the freedom he doesn’t. In Chapter 5 Flowery challenges Ralsei to actively struggle for what he wants even if he perceives the end to be inevitable. He challenges Ralsei to become an agent.
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>>575156712
wait this design is cute
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>>575156693
I would unironically LOVE To smoke with dess until we both got nicotine poisoning and vomit because emetophilia is hot
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>>575156712
Asriel, how was the last AP Calculus?
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>>575156845
>He exists to serve. Everything about him is calculated for this purpose. He’s a Darkner, a thing, made to play a support role
h*t
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>>575156732
is that fucking GREEN
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>>575156858
Derangement
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>>575156829
WHAT IS A TRIN GLE
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>>575156732
He’s green and he’s delta
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>>575155980
>no one felt any sympathy for and hated flowery until he died fighting roary
what is this retard on, do lorefags really just skip all the dialogue unless it involves going back and forth between a room 80 times?
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smoking weed with dess and she gets all touchy and lets you play with her tits after
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>>575156791
Wait so is sans trans because he has a blue sweater and pink slippers? Bros…
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>>575156858
Forgot pic. . . Forgive me Dess
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>>575156509
That's right, his blind faith for Kris will break when he realizes it puts Susie in danger.
>>575156514
Does he care about Asgore and Toriel the same way he clearly cares about Susie? She will be his breaking point
>>575156530
Because he is the one that created him DUH
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>>575156845
That's fine, nothing invalidates this, I'm agains the thought Ralsei is a blob of darkness that chose to look like Asriel literally just because he thought it would make Kris (and Susie) like him and not a single more interesting reason behind it.
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oh fuck I miss Papyrus
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>>575156812
Imagine in Chapter 6, the final boss would be similar to the Titan and you would need Ralsei's fire abilities to defeat it. But if you are on an aborted Weird Route, Ralsei won't let you access it but instead give you another act you can use that simply makes the bossfight way harder
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>>575156991
If you watched early streams a lot of them zoomed through the chapter in like 5 hours looking for hype creepypasta moments.
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>>575156967
that's the guy that sells you maps ithink
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>>575156489
cute
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>>575156398
Ralsei seeks validation from the player, not Kris. He knows that everything depends on the player so he sucks up to you specifically. He loves Kris but he doesn't seek validation from them.
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>>575156997
kris your internet privileges are being taken away come downstairs right now
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>>575156739
i want more money..
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>>575157089
bro he literally sells you eggs in undertale, right before the core
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>>575156997
I love desss
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OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH YEAH BABY SWING IT SWING IT PAPI PAPI COO TENNY TOO TV TV TENNY WENNY WOO WOO SWINGAREELIDOO WINNY WOO JENNY RENNY JOO TENNY SHENNY WENNY PENNY FENNY FOO FOO ROO ROO REE ROO ROO! OH YEAHHHHH SWING IT BABY SWING ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

I LOVE TV! TV WINNY WONNAROOOOOOO!
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>>575156991
There were people who hated Flowery until he fought the Knight and I don’t understand how. I loved him from the fucking start. Then again, every person I knew that hated him until that moment is the kind of person to alt tab every 5-10 minutes.
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some anons here
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>>575156997
do you think she has nipple piercings
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>>575156991
I mashed through ALL the flowers dialogue and I don’t regret it
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What if dess does heroin
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>>575157245
I wish I could turn snow into art...
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>>575157071
a powerful being of darkness turning into a cute goat boy so you love him goes hard asl
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>>575157232
YEEEEAH THAT'S RIGHT YOU LOVE TV SAY IT SAY YOU FUCKING LOVE TV
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>>575157071
I don’t know why you think it’s uninteresting when it is directly tied to the central arc of his character. As for whether of not he was a “blob of darkness,” or there is a more specific reason Ralsei thinks Asriel would be a comforting presence to Kris, we just can’t say yet
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>>575157237
i hated him a little bit when he got introduced but the voice clips were just too charming and it was very funny seeing raly seethe so much
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>heh, any day now everyone will admit chapter 5 was bad!
The greatest filter chapter of all time
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>>575157187
I believe he hides the "evidence" in that weird bird cage. Could you please take it out of his room too? Thanks
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>doesn't know about the global hidden buttonmashing detection flag
Save BRICKED
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>>575157001
I award you a C+ on your English exam and hereby crown you as a moderator for the Deltarune subreddit, anon! Congratulations!
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>>575157172
He has just as much reason to 'suck up' to Kris, since he is creating fountains and doing crazy dangerous stuff. You have no proof to say that he seeks validation from the player, and if you try to say he doesn't deserve to be his own person Kris stops you. We have seen in chapter 5 for Ralsei to try to reach Kris in conversation, specifically Kris.
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>>575157232
A WELL-EARNED VICTORY!
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>>575157289
She has navel piercings and makes azzy suck on it every night they're together in non penetratice sex
>>575157319
I would love her either way has fucked a heroine junky once b4, sweet girl. Sad life
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>>575157237
he seemed like a lame 'lol anime boy haha SO FUNNY!!' gag to me up until you start climbing the tower and he starts actively trying to dissuade you from sealing the fountain and it becomes apparent that he really is just a nice upstanding dude
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>>575157071
What do you want the reason to be, because you seem to be coping about obvious shit from multiple chapters ago.

>>575157074
I hope its cool, I want some real neat magic spells.
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>>575157390
Abberant is cute beyond being a pisstake on certain fans, it should fuck Mr. Sunshine...
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>>575157356
I find it uninteresting because it has very little to do with Asriel in the first place, it has baited for so many years some sort of intersting connection to have such a simplistic answer. I also don't find it very good because Kris himself doesn't care much for his appearance so it was just a poor choice. Yeah you could say "well that's the point Ralsei was worried about something that was never a problem" but that's solving a conflict by making it not exist
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>>575157438
Holy shit it’s an honor, thank you bro
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>>575157391
>mom found the cum cage
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>>575157245
i miss undertale...
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Chapter 6 final boss will include Susie and Noelle fighting alongside each other. No spotlight for Ralsei
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>>575157360
For a split second i thought someone made dess ftm
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>>575156530
If Kris made half the dark fountains so far and the Knight, with whom Kris is considering, made the other half who do you think made the closet fountain?
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>>575157360
She was most likely a weeb, as that explains her persona and that katana she always keeps right next to her
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>>575157001
Kris is Sans...
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>>575157482
>navel piercings and makes azzy suck on it every night they're together in non penetratice sex
i wish that was me
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But does Ralsei really have no freedom and no agency? Is this really a part of his character?

This seems really bullshit now that we know that Ralsei has op magic that he didn't let us know about it, try to rape everyone that talks about his hat, continue to lie even after chapter 4, pacifistpilling Susie since chapter 1.
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Hug the dess
>>575157631
She's perfect as she is and I say this as the resident trans man chaser
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>>575157635
*Conspiring not considering stupid fuckng aayrngkvmeke
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>>575157635
its clearly chara who was possessing kris but manifested physically as a soul and started controlling our promised vessel and became the roaring knight
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One time I wrote a fanfic where Dess was verbally (and for the first time physically) abusing Asriel, and I had to stop because it made me feel awful to write. Made me feel bad the entire time.
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>>575157710
if he uses fire magic he's fufilling the prophecy
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>>575157768
i love machine
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>>575157710
He is Gaster's bitch
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chapter 6 better not being another filler chapter.
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Chara was the 2nd voice during the goner maker sequence truthers where you at? Do we still exist or is it just me
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Nonbinary dess is fine, too
>>575157805
Can you post it sadriel is prime adorable woobie fuck meat
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>>575157448
>You have no proof to say that he seeks validation from the player
He knows that you're the one who answers questions, that's why he reassures Kris that he'll make tea for them/feed them regardless of whether or not we ask him to in the chapter 4 tea party with Gerson. Therefore every instance of him asking for validation is done with the knowledge that you are answering and not Kris.
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>>575157717
Any success lately?
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>>575157245
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>>575157717
its so funny how we literally know nearly nothing about dess but somehow people are always certian saying their depiction of dess is 100% correct as if she literally appeared in person for the past 2 chapters
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My husband is so fucking handsome
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>>575157614
Say jk ...
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>>575157245
i wish i could draw..
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nyon
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>>575157809
the prophecy goes on anyway
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>>575157895
Looks anorexic
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>>575157637
a feudal japan autist who gets really stuck up about historical accuracy
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>>575157907
Outside of the softboy im watching BGC with who's afraid of showing any toxic traits no not really its still cisgirls looking at me like im eye candy. For some reason. Said Kris.
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>>575157895
>Can you post it
I think I got like 3-4 paragraphs in before I decided I couldn’t write it anymore, it’s probably not even that much. I’ll post it later.
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The truth is... Dess WAS the greatest person.
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>>575157974
Dess is canonically a groomer
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>>575157635
>who do you think made the closet fountain?
The closet fountain that doesn't work like all the other fountains we've seen and is made of "pure darkness," implying that the fountains made by others are made of impure darkness? No one.
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>>575157983
so is mine!
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>>575157983
Your husband is getting railed by mettaton
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sex with the vessel, said kris.
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>>575158013
draw something and show me, i will give you a tutorial for you to begin, no you cannot refuse you will start today or you won't be starting for atleast 8 months
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>>575158068
where do you even meet these people you're talking about. asked burgerpants
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>>575157881
fa fa faveutin
/utg/s greatest love machine
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whos ready for dess to have “her theme” which parallels asriels “his theme”
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>>575158086
She's just a friend
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>>575158118
but im not even a beginner anon, you wont even have anything to say..
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>>575158164
Seattle. Don't come here you'll get aids. Im not joking
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>>575158112
Don't worry, it's Spamton's turn on the robocock right now. Mettaton is whisking the pipis while they're still inside.
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>>575158013
i wish you would put an eighth of the energy you do into whining like a bitch into actually practicing
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>>575156156
I forgor Dunkirk
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>>575158206
>"my theme"
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>>575157974
Inferences can be made based on available evidence and a consensus can be reached until more evidence becomes available
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>>575158206
if it happens it's not gonna land with me after spending 40 hours with Susie and Ralsei
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>>575158250
yeah but like. what are you doing exactly. where are you going. you're not just walking outside and running into cute guys and women that want to talk to you and hang out
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inviting fave round for dinner and spiking their food with laxatives but when they go to use your toilet they realize you've set it up so it wont flush.
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>>575158164
I wanted to try and date a trans guy which i know is wrong to seek out on purpose and I know they will be able to tell im a weird chaser since they have a higher emotional iq than mtfs. It doesnt help that they're usually only into guys.
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>>575158281
me too anon, me too
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>>575158090
He deserved that win! Perfectly lovable!
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Sometimes i fantasize about Descember coming home high and beating me until I feel numb. She kicks me in the ribs until I can hardly breathe. Then she starts to cry and apologizes begging me to forgive her. She holds me all night as I gently cry into her t-shirt

Am I salvageable
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>>575158358
yes, but i am talking about people who makes headcanons and gets mad at creator because it opposes their perception
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>>575157950
kek
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i wish i could carol...
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>>575157776
A+ shitpost
>>575158087
You keep seeing this but what exactly in the game implies this? Yes the castle town is allegedly "pure darkness," whatever that means, but how and why does that imply that fountain just opened by itself? Why in the school? Why in that closet that Susie and Kris would have to go to for the chalk? It's way simpler and more logical to assume that Kris or the knight made the fountain
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chapter 6’s gameplay gimmick will be sections that play like DOOM / wolfenstein 3D
chapter 7’s gameplay gimmick will be that the final boss will have undertale’s UI instead of deltarune’s
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>>575158380
fave doesn't have a human digestive system
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>>575158562
She doesn't deserve
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>>575158473
many are saying this
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>>575157974
I think it'll be a very "eddy's brother" situation. I don't think she'll be a total asshole but it'll be very clear that kris and especially noelle are mystifying her via childhood memories
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Dessfags have been running the board for two halves of two threads. When will the oppression of the minor fave factions end?
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elevator shelf
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>>575158115
raping kris, said the vessel
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>>575158380
I've locked the toilet closed
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this is canon
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>>575158473
you need to be adopted by a 6'4 wholesome gf, otherwise the girl you find yourself will result you in being in 9 pieces like a lego minifig
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>>575158374
I walk and I ride the bus.

Thats it. Thats all I ever do when I head out just to spend time outside. Everyone I want to talk to gives me the cold shoulder and ignores me treating me like a nuisance. Or try to humiliate me because they view me as a chud or a chaser or something [half correct]
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>>575158605
toby already wasted the epic undertale UI moment on an npc nobody gives a shit about
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Kris's side sprite might be Toby Fox+Temmie's greatest creation.
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>>575157635
>who do you think made the closet fountain?
no one did, that's why it's special and can hold any darkner. it wasn't formed from a lightners will and sprung up on its own.
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>>575158565
the school closet doesn't actually hold the millennia old Grand Fountain of Pure Darkness, the most logical answer is that Kris and Susie fell into a trapdoor or sinkhole
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I wish I could painter
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inviting ralsei to my home and then inviting him down to the basement to see my sick scarf collection but all that's there is a bed and a stake stuck in the basement floor and a rope...
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>>575158657
anon killed himself before he finish his post...
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I wish I could jack my box
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>>575158736
>>575158768
Good headcanons
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>>575158712
My first ex already tried to manipulate me into trying to rape them [idk if hes still transitioning or not I think he detransitioned out of spite] and that broke me in such a way I still don't feel whole six years afterwards so im already a broken 9 piece Lego mini fig.

Fictional characters can't hurt me anyway. Not in anyway that matters.
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>>575158708
why is kris gooning to their brother's dnd persona
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>>575155125
>both are manipulative liars who are outwardly wholesome chungus 100
idk there's a pretty big likeness there
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>>575157904
He still gets surprised when Kris as his own reactions independent of what we choose (like saying we'll go with Berdly to the festival) He knows that the player is a factor, but still seems to hope to get some answers specifically from Kris. In general he doesn't seem to know when Kris or the player is the one talking. If he wants that reassurance from the player specifically he wouldn't mention the name 'Kris' in those moments like he keeps doing, he would be more vague about who is he talking to.
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>>575158712
>6'4 wholesome gf
ok. where
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>>575158736
My brand new theory asriel hung himself into the closet and his unrealized hopes and dreams turned into castle town
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>>575158679
Did someone say minors?
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>>575158565
>how and why does that imply that fountain just opened by itself?
Because it works differently than every other fountain in a way that we can see so Ralsei can't just be arbitrarily lying about it. The natural conclusion is that it formed in a different way than the other fountains since we know that the fountain-opener's will changes how the fountain works in some ways. If it didn't open on its own, at the very least it wasn't made by anyone who made one of the other fountains because then those other fountains would work the same way this one those, and they don't.
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i wish toby would add more platformer sections in chapter 6 and 7
they were genuinely the best in chapter 5
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>>575158862
HE DON'T LOVE YOU NO MORE!
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>>575158843
She doesn't deserve sex, she's a bitch and also really ugly
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>>575158862
i miss all my jackbox friends. it's a shame they all died.
sometimes it still feels like i can still see their posts in the thread.
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>>575158862
jackbox partybox
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I wanna fuck fictional teenagers to make up for my lack of a romance life in my teen hood...
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There are so many tomboy does in this thread I can smell the musky deer and weed smell from here I fucking love it
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one of you need to take up the mantle of hosting jackbox or we will all die
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>>575159019
I would love to play a schizoboss tier difficulty fight in that mode
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>>575159047
ummmm nuh UH
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But I'm a creep
I'm a weird doe
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here
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>>575158962
>If he wants that reassurance from the player specifically he wouldn't mention the name 'Kris' in those moments like he keeps doing, he would be more vague about who is he talking to.
I don't find this convincing because he constantly refers to the player as Kris, it's just part of his kayfabe.
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>>575158912
my bad, i hope you get better
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pre transition mtf boy Dess drooling over punk girls on MTV awkwardly realizing he wants to be them, not date them
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>>575159085
Maybe... just maybe you can
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>>575159085
maybe one of them is replying to you right now... nah, thats crazy talk!
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anyone not pilled on titan ralsei is playing with their eyes closed. the reason hes so extremely restrained is because he thinks if he dosent perfectly fit the role of the prince, then he'll be on the other side ending the world instead. susie has given him enough confidence to try and bend his role, but he's still too scared to try and fully break away. this is why he holds back against even titans, since he thinks going all out would immediately cause the roaring anyway.
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>>575159091
Same, I didn't have sex until I was 18 so i'm always going to be a loser freak who fucked up his teens.
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>>575159270
Like how I want to be Drake
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>>575159270
this is too real
stop that
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>>575158565
Dark Fountains are said to reflect the will of their creator, and this presumably is the reason why certain Darkners aren't compatible with other Dark Worlds. This is demonstrated in Chapter 4, where Darkners that are certainly supposed to be in that LOCATION turn to stone based on the changing will of the Fountain's creator (The Knight or Susie).
It stands to reason, based on this assumption, that Castle Town is an "uncreated" Dark World. It is "supposed to be there," exactly as Ralsei claims.
Ralsei himself is the only authority we have on this, but his claims are supported by the evidence we have, of (almost) any Darkner being able to exist in Castle Town, and Ralsei himself being able to freely travel to other Dark Worlds without worry.

The old man being the exception to Castle Town's power is also evidence against The Knight making Castle Town, since Gerson was revived by The Knight's fountain in the church.
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>>575159329
"Its like as if i can hear them saying 'bro we are literally here what are you talking about?' like in the good old days."
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>>575159252
specific proof of this?
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>>575159270
>>575159368
agp
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>>575159262
No.
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my spam tits are so cold and lonely without my friends on my bosom…
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>>575159270
trannies are so shallow
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>>575158962
he knows when you're the one talking, he let it slip here
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>>575159270
41% o algo
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Giving Seth a bj underneath the desk while they read books
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>>575159451
Dess thread bitch get with the times
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when does the game interface and narrator go schizo and start talking in the first person
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>>575159510
What was the context of this again?
Is this if you say "You like tea" when he talks about trying different drinks?
Pretty creepy.
I kinda hate the idea that he's probably really afraid of us. I mean I get it, but let me show him I want to help him.
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>>575159172
Look at her sprites and tell me that face is pretty. You can't
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>>575159457
everybody is so shallow no one is real not even any of you!!! you’re all npcs in the video game that is my life every single one of you!!!!
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I know a lot of people say Seth is non-binary, but their dialogue about the whole thing reads to me like genderfluid, plus the cut line about being whatever Berdly likes tells me Seth kinda just doesnt personally care all that much about what they are or is open to everything
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>>575159335
>perfectly fit the role of the prince
>refuses to use fire magic
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>>575159335
Ralsei Titan with fire powers…hol up, didn’t the Roaring cutscene of chapter 2 have a raging inferno in the background?

If a Titan is fear of just the dark, Ralsei is the fear of eternal darkness that will manifest if the Roaring occurs. Since the Roaring hasn’t occurred but the fear remains, Ralsei manifests in non-Titan form as a Darkner who wants to end the prophecy, and can survive in any dark world and change his form at will.

Why does he look like Asriel, and why is his name an anagram of Asriel? Because Susie views Dreemurrs in general positively, and Kris at worst still looks up to their brother, so manifesting as an Asriel-like Darkner has the best chances of getting the two heroes on his side.
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>>575159629
Bitch can't get into cougars
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>>575159091
same, ive never even had sex
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>>575159659
seth is a hermaphroditic flower projecting themselves as a fat, ugly human male
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>>575159713
kino
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>>575159659
Genderfluid isn't good enough because they wouldn't be able to get their angerstimmies from correcting people's pronouns and adding a bajillion citations
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>>575159270
You mean Asriel sucked tiny doe dick?
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>>575159616
nope, you're the villain for playing the game, deal with it
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I ate an entire box of twinkies and now I can't feel my right arm do you think gaster is responsible for this?
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I'm so addicted to social media. I put a time limit on my phone's browser app but I just started using a second browser app
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>>575159510
He says that after you choose the awful option, specifically. It seems to me like Ralsei is scared of the player (why would he seek validation from them?), and assumes is the player talking when the answer is mean. He says this line after gaining an appreciation from Kris seeing him play the piano, too, so he is becoming more familiar with him.
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>>575159659
seth has a new type of genitalia that cannot penetrate and cannot be penetrated. you could not grasp the form of seth's genitals
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>>575159335
I believe a roaring titan fits to the role of a rook than a major chess piece like a queen or a king, so i presume the thing that lurks below hometown and is making kris and roaring knight open fountains to help the heroes progress is actually the one who created ralsei (hence the title of "prince") but somehow ralsei kind of tried to rebel from the duty given by his creator (helping the soul fullfill the prophecy) by trying to redirect it into doing more pacifist route so that it might slightly change the prophecy for a better ending
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>>575159451
i'm touching titties with you telepathically RIGHT NOW
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>>575159659
gender is retarded and in a perfect world everyone understands a character saying their gender doesn't matter means that you can interpret them however you want instead of forcing a heckin gender onto them
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>>575159629
I can and I am right now
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>>575155383
is that a fountain in the background?
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Malnutrition-thin Tenna drooling over hors d'oeuvres on the party table, awkwardly realizing he wants to devour them, not snack on them
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>>575159754
Cougars, unlike carol, are hot
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All art of dess is loved and appreciated
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>>575151930
Yesyesyesyesyesyes
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>>575159823
so its the phenomaman situation again
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>>575155383
Didn't that guy murder six children?
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>>575159797
We be forgetting these are flowers, and flowers can be hermaphrodite, as in possess fully functional male and female sex organs on the same plant, perhaps even the same flower if I remember hs biology correctly.
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>>575158962
>In general he doesn't seem to know when Kris or the player is the one talking
We know that Kris can convey how they feel about what we're telling them to say, I don't think that's a big issue.
Chapter 5 also gives us pretty strong evidence that Ralsei might be aware/able to see our dialogue choices in the same way that he can see the battle menu. After Blue leads Susie away, it seems like he's leading you into a "think of Susie" moment, but when the choice actually pops up he interrupts it and prompts you to give her some privacy instead. When it's replaced with a prompt to "Hang out with Ralsei normally," he remarks on it.
>* ... right. Normally. Haha.
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>>575159819
>(why would he seek validation from them?)
Because the fate of his entire world depends on the player and if you're upset with him over something then you might decide to ruin everythingfor fun?
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noelle: it's as shrimple as that!
berdly: not so shrimple now, is it?
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>>575155383
tricky anon.. i see what you did there
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>>575159390
it bothers me that toby made gerson some weird exception when he could've just not addressed it at all and let the excuse for not taking him to castletown be the fact that neither kris nor susie are about to steal gerson's remains from the church.
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>>575159819
So if you're never mean to him he just assumes kris is the only one talking and you're doing fuck all?
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>>575159802
Dess betting with Azzy who loses in Super smashing fighters has to suck the other's cock and wins to get Azzy between her legs lapping her small flaccid doe cock and drinking all the thin doe cum leaking out of it
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>>575159938
Carol is a cougar anon. Sorry you're retarded
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>>575159962
toby knew people would root for his fursona if he added it to undertale, so he lowkey decided to hide it from freaks like us
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>>575160010
They had to die
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>>575160041
This is true, Flowery just gave birth to my children and yelled "Jarona!" as they popped out of him with a rainbow trail
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>>575158727
>on an npc nobody gives a shit about
Who?
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>>575159616
he loves us desu
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>>575159669
ralsei belives a lot of things about the prophecy that we dont see on the panels. We dont know how he got the idea that the girl was a monster that wore ribbons, so its fully possible for him to have convinced himself that the prince needs to be a passive healer.
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>>575160234
wicabel
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>>575160126
Cougars are hot, carol is not hot, thus carol is not a cougar
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How much longer....

My DESCEMBER.....
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Strawvery good!
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i have saved so much dess art these past threads
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>>575160042
Interesting observation, I wonder ...
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>>575160316
you have no taste anon
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>>575159659
Genderfluid is a type of nonbinary, dude. Nonbinary just means not part of the binary (strictly male or female).
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>>575160316
More like a COLDgar, am I right?! Hahaha!
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>>575160105
He had to make an exception because otherwise you could just keep dead people alive forever in Castle Town
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>>575160310
Oh, right. Didn't notice that. Although, it was just the attack icon.
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>>575160246
we are literally a fucking deity from the bible to him you know, as in chapter 4 we can see him and susie looking at a covered prophecy thats suppose to assume "us" and both them are terrified as ralsei is literally trying his hardest to not change his expression
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>>575160325
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I wish groomer Dess wasn't so popular because I think the idea of Dess being an older kid that Kris really looked up to but was a bad influence on them because of some innate connection is way more interesting than turning it into some boring fetish bait.
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>>575160468
i think they're just doing grade school tactics
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>>575159819
Ralsei's reaction to the Kris betrayal is going to be so good. Just fully completely flabbergast the dude who thinks he knows everything
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>>575160531
nice
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Shi alone is better than every Chapter 4 Darkner.
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Toby? Toby Fox? Is that you?
Dude, check out this sweet cosplay I did of your most mysterious characters with my new ex-camwhore girlfriend that I groomed.
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>>575159335
I don't see how Ralsei could be a Titan when Titans are supposed to be mindless avatars of fear and destruction
I could see Ralsei being another creature of "pure darkness" and similar to a Titan in that way, but that doesn't make him the same type of thing as a Titan

I think that The Knight is a Titan-like thing because they have clear similarities to a Titan in their form and appearance, and The Knight clearly having a mind and identity (unlike a mindless Titan) can be explained by them being a Lightner who was somehow turned into this form.
I don't know how you would make a similar explanation for Ralsei, and I definitely don't think he's lying about being unable to exist in the Light World (unlike The Knight). If he secretly had a Lightner's SOUL then some other Darkners surely would have noticed, Queen wouldn't have completely ignored him if he could create Fountains like the Knight can.
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>>575160671
wicabel is hot
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>>575160671
Retard
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Godlike Knight on the whiteboard whoever drew it
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>>575159335
this is so cute i want him to give in and destroy the world
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the anagramed asriel SHITTING HIMSELF IN FEAR of the BALL GAME SOUL in the anagramed undertale
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>>575160505
That makes sense but is very bad news for Rudy.
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>>575160690
GRIM UNFORTUNATE image that I wish you didn't show me
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>>575160603
i mean she did turn on inappropriate tv channels when they were in the room
even without grooming the dynamic is just a bit fucked up no?
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>>575160694
>when Titans are supposed to be mindless avatars of fear and destruction
that's just what ralsei told us isn't it
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>>575160603
No you don't get it we have to do this because we NEED to goon, okay??
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>>575156043
I like relationships to be a little spicier than most, but I'm sure we can both agree that he's way too cute for his own good
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>>575160690
Andrew Cunningham
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>>575160824
Yes it's fucked up that's what makes it interesting. I just find it a lot more boring when you take that fucked up dynamic and just turn it into fetish slop.
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Ralsei being a friendly Titan would make him basically Gooey from Kirby's Dream Land 3 and while Kirby isn't one of Toby's constant reference sources I could see him being inspired by it
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>>575160848
toby fox is pro life after all?
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>>575160824
toriel is a slightly religous nut that would probably not let kris and asriel even watch something as "edgy" as spongebob so it probably wasnt softcore porn
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>>575160690
Embarrassing cosplays
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>>575160824
not really. i guess you were never a kid around edgy teens, they'll do a lot of shit just to emphasize the gap between you (dumb kid) and them (basically an adult)
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Ralsei immediately thinks of (You) when he hears that Kris made Susie do something and it takes a moment before he even considers that it wasn't (You) so maybe he just thinks of (You) as Kris and forgets that Kris is Kris sometimes.
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>>575160824
She's just an edgelord doing edgelord things, back in middle school a classmate showed me a video of a guy shooting himself, she's basically the same
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>>575158250
I've been to Seattle and its a great city though. I swear some of you guys just tard out about every city.
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>>575160959
larping as a goner to get chomped by friend...
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>>575160952
you're just saying that because he's an effeminate millenial with vaguely pedo tendencies
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>>575160976
i did not and do not have any friends so i dont really know how they act
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>>575159787
Imagine the smell
of her pits, I mean. not the weed. weed smells nasty.
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>>575161068
I don't know what this schizobabble is about but I'm saying it because Toby is a huge Nintendofag
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I need fave to fuck me NOW
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>>575160824
I'm pretty sure the "gators in bikinis" show is a reference to the same 70s Sesame Street musical animation that inspired Sans's theme song and also Bratty and Catty's designs.
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>>575160625
sadly that describes the average /utg/ anon intelligence
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>>575161068
okay he might potentionally be a deity old as earth, but still he isn't a groomer he just cares about his friends whom all happen to be teenagers for some reason !
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hometown scientists say that fave sex is the key to a happy and fulfilling life
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kek man
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>>575160289
It's a small nitpick but I think people should be more conscious of the difference between "The Prophecy" and "the rules of this world," Ralsei makes a distinction between the two when he's telling Susie that he's cursed with knowledge
Like I doubt there's a Prophecy that says THE GIRL WILL TRY ON THE RIBBON, it's just something that Ralsei knows Susie CAN do within the constraints of the game but was refusing to do up until Chapter 5

This is another reason why the "Susie is being mind-controlled by the Prophecy" people are fucking stupid
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>>575160603
agreed
id like to believe dess showed kris some fucked up things before for giggles, but stepping out of boundaries and molest them is something toby wouldn't write for dess, atleast in deltarune
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>>575161130
that's exactly what I said, a kirbrony
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>>575160959
the amazon corset over top is the ugliest thing any cosplay could ever do
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Deltarune is unsolvable prior to chapter 8. All your so called "hints" and "theories" are worthless as there is no real answer to be found.
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>>575161117
i didn't have friends either i just had shithead cousins or whatever you call the kids of your aunts
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>>575160694
>Titans are supposed to be mindless avatars of fear and destruction
hence why flowery calls ralsei an impossibility. hes something that goes agains the laws of the universe, but somehow still exists. idk how exactly he would have been created, probaly through some extremely rare set of circumstances, maybe the same circumstances that created the knight.

funnily enough, if this is true, then he probably has the best chance to change the prophecy, being a exception to its rules. but hes too scared to actually use that power. very dramatic irony
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>>575160603
Dess being a groomer freak who was shunned by everyone after she left/disappeared is a pretty good explanation of why Kris doesn’t like being reminded (see Chapter 5 intro), why only Noelle who is a freak herself still remembers her (see Chapter 2 normal route and Chapter 5 weird route), why her room is left intact, as it may still contain clues about possible grooming in the journals and whatnot, and why Carol and Asgore do not mention Dess by name. Nobody else wants to mention her, and even Asgore vagueposts instead of actually talking about what happened as Kris probably doesn’t want to hear.

If Kris and the Knight/Dess’ relationship is an abusive relationship fueled by Kris’ trauma, it makes more sense why Kris is working with Dess Knight. Kris might even be carrying the knife around to defend themselves out of trauma, and the knife is still reserved by them in the dark worlds as they don’t want to use it (see Aqua’s first battle quotes).
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>>575161030
I live there and the lgbt community here's a meme.
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>>575159335
>>575160694
There are only four acceptable knight theories that aren't too schizo.
>Asriel is the Knight
Made Tenna take special attention to Toriel. Is the only person in town missing and implied to be alive. Didn't give a shit about Noelle. Love letter to Dess in room, which might explain the antlers.
>The Knight is a Thing/Titan Thing
Same color as Spawn. Will fuzz and wave-out like static radio just like Spawn. Looks like a titan from the story. The knight is very weird, it's basically a spinning ball whenever it moves >90% of the time.
>Rudy is the Knight
It'll be really stupid if Toby wrote a character just to be sick with some mystery illness and then just die.
>Dess is the Knight
Antlers. Dess disappeared and is only implied to be dead. We don't know what happened to Dess just as we don't know what the knight is.
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>>575161259
ralsei is probably more like the alien baby of some cosmic old gods
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>>575161146
get in line
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>>575161304
this art is so based
ugh toby please give me cool scenes of them together
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>>575161114
Why would Seth be embarrassed to get hugged by his silly flower friend?
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>>575160952
The Knight is a Kirby reference by proxy
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Chapter 5 is like a DLC that is pretty good and has lots of fanservice but isn't required to get the full experience.
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>>575161436
Cause Aqua's face gets dangerously close to Seth's which makes them uncomfortable
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Floradinn alone is better than every Chapter 4 Darkner.
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>>575161484
if you had fun, that's all what matters
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>>575161401
dont forget anon, the knight summons a baseball bat that it turns into a sword in its very first appearance
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>>575161389
Thats every city
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>>575161484
thats why you can skip it along ch6
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>>575161259
Ralsei has been conscious for like 5 days even if he's technically millions of years old
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>>575161326
You need to beat the game 5 times prior to access Chapter 8, which then it will open the epilogue chapter where you need to defeat a superboss without using magic to get a secret 5 minute full cgi cutscene that explains the whole dess subplot to get a basic understanding of Toby Fox's third ut/dr game "Unaltered"
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>>575161556
true
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>>575161364
could carol see her as a disappointment and that's the reason she doesn't mention her by name? either that or she wants to stop carrying a burden and wants to finally move on, ocassionaly grieving alone
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>>575160893
The level of cuteness is unbelievable, you cannot find someone more cute
I love him
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Mizzles were cute but Guei and Balthizard are just such nothing-designs and I'm not even saying this because they're ungoonable
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>>575161364
>>575161679
Carol hasn’t really had the chance to not refer to Dess by name
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>>575161649
idk the context but i want to fuck that thing until it cannot move like a plant
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>>575160848
>that's just what ralsei told us isn't it
Yes and so does the narration and battle mechanics, where they refuse to be spared and don't even have the preservation instinct to run away before being killed
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>Ralsei is meant to be a force of destruction but has been tempered with kindness and wants to resist his role
You guys should play an obscure little game called Mother 1.
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Anyone got pic related or its source in a higher quality? The one I found is ass.
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>>575161858
What is the fucking point of showing you your exp at all times during battle?
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>>575161858
More proof that Ralsei is an alien from the meteor
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>>575161556
Floradinns are the best Darkners Toby has ever made because they are literally me.
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>>575161825
killing them also doesn't effect the recruit status now, as jackstein will appear in chapter 5 hometown even if you had killed the spawns instead of purifying them
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>>575161484
People are saying this now, but I really believe that when Chapter 6 comes out and it's a lot darker and more serious a la Chapter 4 (we already know there's (supposedly) not going to be a Starwalker cameo, an egg to collect, moss to eat, etc.) people are going to really appreciate Chapter 5. Especially people in the future that play the game when it's fully out, and that didn't just digest one chapter at a time. Balancing out the dark and gritty with a little levity is good game design, and I think if there's one thing that was kinda needed after the tense, dark prophecy-talk of Chapter 4 it was a little levity
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>>575160767
my ancient living apocalypse cant be this adorable
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>>575151916
Uooo taking anchor's virginity
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i must truly be ugly inside and unlovable for this to happen to me, said chara. if i was a good person, none of this would be happening. a big, strong man of high moral character, able to take care of those he loves! it must not be me. i must not be good enough, said chara. and that’s why i failed at the only truly important and wonderful thing i had.
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>>575161825
Something I really like in the Titan fight is how its shadow ball attacks obliterate these things, and it absorbs them to heal too. The cannibalistic, self-centered nature of them adds to their lack of conscience.
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>>575161970
oh my god
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>>575161970
Damn, fat tenna. Ten thousand desses got here before you.
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>>575161970
*slaps and watches it jiggle*
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Never forget that Game Maker STOLE Flowey and Ralsei's manuals away from us
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>>575161909
Dragon Quest did it. It's a leftover from JRPG's D&D origins where this information would be on your character sheet.
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>>575161909
So you can do rng manipulation and cheese the game in an hour.

>>575161918
And so wept the fallen star...
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>>575161358
>hence why flowery calls ralsei an impossibility. hes something that goes agains the laws of the universe, but somehow still exists.
The simplest explanation for that to me is that he's a Darkner without an object. A living being born purely of the Dark World, who absolutely cannot exist in the Light.
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>>575161970
I look like this
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>>575161970
OUR sexyman contest winner winner Tenny dinner
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>only one anchor post by near end of thread
what happened to us…
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>>575162163
>cloaked figure with fire magic
Ralsei usurped Eram and stole his role as hero.
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>>575161970
based
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>>575161972
i believe still having doubts of being a good person or not right after being done slaughtering nearly all of a certian species and leaving the rest to die is not a good sign
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>>575162236
>Eram
Literally who?
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>>575162283
john mantle
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I just tripped and fell in a alley puddle with piss help me
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>>575162283
Oh I'm sorry, ERAM
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>>575162231
I'd be drawing more but I told myself I need to work on my original comics first
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>>575162356
HAAAAAAAAAHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>575162356
Spamton after getting evicted...
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Kawkaw. Does any other Chapter have Kawkaw?
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>>575162356
was it your own piss at least?
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>>575162283
dude who spawns cats and gives us shadow mantle, who is also addicted to vore hentai
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>>575162281
that’s not when they would have considered such things
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>>575162423
Chapter 6 when we have those cuties in our town
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>>575161956
>Balancing out the dark and gritty with a little levity
Bro it's still Deltarune. Despite Chapter 4 being "darker in tone" the majority of the chapter is still specifically designed to make you giggle. While with chapter 5 I feel like something is missing. Every other chapter had an underbelly of something sinister while that was completely absent from Chapter 5 till Toby patched in like a couple lines of dialogue that are ominous.

Chapter 5 wasn't a shining beacon of light in the darkness. It was the same as every other chapter except lacked any and all creepy and interesting shit beneath the surface.
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>>575161987
Titans are named after Greek Titans, like Cronus who famously devoured his own son. They're parents, or GUARDIANS if you will, but their spawn exist to be sacrificed for their own gain, the exact opposite of Gerson's relationship to Alvin which is probably why Gerson is the one to help defeat it. All of the chapter bosses fit into some kind of parental role, although Flowery is more like a stepdad.
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Gapper
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can someone vocaroo themselves doing the kawkaw nyoon sounds please i'm feeling a bit sad i think it would cheer me up
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>>575162112
>>575161918
what's this about a meteor?
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>>575161956
>Players will really appreciate a chapter where you have to jump through hoops and bark like a seal just because chapter 6 MIGHT be heavy

That's dumb, since chapter 5 kills a pot of momentum and wiped out tons of hype. But it's even more dumb when you think about how much they talked about that fucking festival when nothing happened.

Inferno of jealousy -
>Nooo Gerson was talking about his book! It was exciting and well written. Obviously you should have expected nothing!
Inferno of jealousy my ass. Got excited for nothing. Stupid chapter. Bullshit no climax zero action dog water.
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>>575162512
All the stuff with Noelle looming is clearly a disaster in the making, and after a chapter about foiling the prophecy's ending with our friendship we have a group of antagonists who try to foil the prophecy with their friendship and fail. I dont need some spooky Sonic.exe shit to feel that the vibes are bleak.
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>>575162163
this is another likely explanation, i just think ralsei not just being a special type of darkner but THE thing that is fated to destroy everything explains a lot of his behavior, especially in chapter 5
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Why wasn't the piano version of sunset of 7 suns the credits theme
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>>575161970
Z-Z-Z-Z-
ZA-ZA-
ZA-ZA-ZA-ZA
ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYUUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAMMMMMMM!!!
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>>575161956
Toby mentions exactly this in the newsletter, that in the long run it’s good for chapter 5 to be the “characters in denial before the storm hits” chapter. If chapter 6 escalates shit with a lore dump hallway like in Undertale, Friend appearing in battle (after Pink’s words, likely yes), and god forbid, vs Susie Reprise (remember, bringing Noelle to Castle Town won’t end well ever and Susie will figure out Kris is working with Knight), then yeah, chapter 5 would be looked back at with a tear.

It’s even possible that since there’s great darkness beneath Hometown that the prophecy predicts will rise to the surface in the Roaring, and since Kris and Noelle sink to the Depths (“other side of the lake”, as in vertically) that are filled with this darkness, when they wake up it’s chapter 7’s start and the Roaring has already begun by the end of chapter 6, which is why there’s the skip to chapter 7 instead of 6. So the Roaring starting could be the cliffhanger we get for chapter 6.
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>>575162512
I think it was done intentionally to be like the calm before the storm, like how the weather is sunny and suddenly gets warmer as if everything is going to be fine until the thunders are heard from the distance, soon followed by a heavy storm that completly covers the sky with darkness
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>>575161956
my issue with 5 isn't that it's filler. it's that it's BAD filler. the flowers aren't fun
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>>575162231
Everyone is having fun on a friday night but me...
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>>575162784
If chapter 6 doesnt end with the roaring starting I will be shocked. And if it doesnt then I assume its going full Mother 3 and wont happen until the very end.
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Sorry for the dess spam it will happen again
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>>575162231
I posted last thread, I have nothing for this one sorry
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>>575162512
Onionsan fucking died and was turned into octopus balls that all of the goners ate while saying things like "I have Fun with the Value of these snacks!!!" man, if anything the "sinister underbelly" is more blatant than ever before this chapter
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>>575162876
It's you who isn't fun, anon
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>>575162784
I'm gonna be soo mad if Side B'S only difference from Chapter 7 is the beginning and it kind of corrects itself to the base Chapter 7 route near the end so the ending is still technically the same
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*stares at you*
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>>575161970
how did you find this picture of me
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>>575163018
It's a funny meme but you live in a different world if you think Toby actually put that shit in his game like it was supposed to mean something.
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>>575162965
Wait nvm cute dess on the whiteboard ty to which ever anon drew this
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>>575163039
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what does /utg/ think of the "hometown is a dark world" theory
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>>575162876
>your opinion
And mine’s is that the flowers were fun. Half the criticisms I hear were because people expected Asgore’s notes to be lining the walls giving us lore like the church tapestries, didn’t find anything except flower dialogue, and started seething. The chapter had just enough lore for the fun festival-themed chapter, and at the end I was like Kris, not wanting it to end and turn back away since we both knew shit’s gonna hit the fan. I didn’t feel so in chapter 4’s end, more like “thank goodness it’s over, damn”.
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>>575163018
heheh...the sinister underbelly...of gaster's fat...
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>>575162884
don't worry I'm not having fun
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>>575163197
gay
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>>575163226
>mine's is
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What do you guys think of the idea that asgore was playing to a script with kris’ cooperation? To try to trick the player?
Assume this is true, could it work or is it stupid?
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>>575162884
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>>575162608
>And so wept the fallen star, making rivers with its tears.
>Then, slowly, from the bitter;water, something grew.
>It looked like glass.
The theory is that this book from chapter 4 is more literal than it initially seems. A meteor landed new Hometown at some point in the past, carrying some type of alien substance that seeped into the earth. Darkness began growing under the surface of the earth (as a literal shadow mantle) in response, and the substance mixed with the darkness to produce "glass": the prophecy, the song from the sea, and the game elements presented to you on your glass screen when you play. This slowly leaked into Hometown's water supply and was absorbed through the roots of trees and other plants in town, which is why everything is weird now and seemingly cut off from the rest of the world.
This book is also a reference to wormwood, from the bible. In chapter 5, Ralsei's initial title is Artemisia, which is the genus of the plant wormwood. He also has what appears to be a meteor on his robe in early concept art. So Ralsei is likely linked to the meteor.
And yes this is all immensely schizophrenic, but it's similar to the plots of JRPGs Toby was inspired by so there's a chance it's real.
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>>575163143
>Difficult secret bosses
Not anymore with all the nerfs
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>>575163018
I think the Hometown B7tcher stuff caught on partly because it's so lame and stupid, and Toby might have added a more eggs-ceptional ominous nothing so that "haha normalNPC is actually a killer" wouldn't be the only thing anyone talked about.

>>575162830
>>575162784
Just because Toby said you'll think it was a last fun adventure calm before a storm doesn't mean you have to believe him. I hated most of the flowers and didn't get my fucking stories. Or worse, my satires sort of ended in a really unsatisfying way or "Flowery told me".

Chapter 5 did make me appreciate chapter 3 a hell of a lot more, though, I'll tell you that.
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>>575162583
https://vocaroo.com/1bsJR4VXuMle
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Wait... actually drawing is so easy
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>>575162876
>the flowers aren’t fun
You wouldn’t know fun if it jumped you in the middle of the night as you walked groggily to the bathroom and skullfucked you to death
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>>575163293
he was invoking Yellow
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>>575163334
cool, holy shit
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>>575163397
W-what FUN value does that happen at...
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>>575163367
Now you get it
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>>575163128
ty I'm not done and will probably finish tomorrow but yes your dess posting inspired me
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>>575163226
Of course the flowers were fun. They were just as scrimbly bimbly as any other character Toby makes. If you didn't like the flowers you probably don't like most of the characters in the game. The PROBLEM with the flowers is that they didn't matter AT ALL!
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>>575163197
I think its possibly some sort of artificial realm keeping the residents trapped there but I think there is an actual real hometown with real residents - they have just been swallowed up into this fake ass samsara and cannot discern it isnt real anymore. Too much points to it being cut off from reality recently.
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>>575162675
If the transition to being a Hollow Knight-esque platformer and fighting bullet patterns while ACTing with Susie and Ralsei and the dashing sections and the orange soul reveal are just "jumping through hoops and barking like a seal" idk what to tell you man. It's a lot of fun and games are supposed to be fun, I'm much happier with what we got then another long prophecy lore dump a la Chapter 4 (although 4 did that very well and was still a very good chapter)
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>>575163339
>that pic
Oh I get! It's because being hetero is fucking EVIL!
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>>575163334 (Me)
>the song from the sea
Correction, I meant the song from under the lake. The lake has a lot of weirdness attached to it, so it makes sense as a possible impact site, especially because the fallen star book links it with water (and so does the BitterTear item, which Ralsei has a blank reaction to similar to Noelle with the ThornRing, another thing connecting him to this.)
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Pluey artist if ur here can u draw blue
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Aqua is the mantle holder in disguise. She chooses a form that mirrors young Kris as a deliberate act of psychological terrorism. Watch this space...
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>>575163523
nta but yeah while I still prefer 4 5 kind of made up for any story gripes I'd have with being as fun as it is
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>>575163628
pourquoi
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>>575163334
>wormwood
>roots
>flowery mentions ralsei is an impossibility after tirading about how he and the flowers are also the same throughout the chapter
>ralsei can survive in all dark worlds due to underground roots
>ralsei can take any form as a plant like how aqua takes kid kris’ form, he took asriel’s form to be friendly to the two other heroes
>ralsei casts fire magic due to burning meteor and ability to glass the earth
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anons were talking about ralsei's eye colour during the hot spring scene so I took a closer look and yeah, it's 100% intentional. his makeup is running from washing his eyes.

his coloured portrait is faked. he's a fraud.
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>>575163334
It is a cool theory, but it's lacking in any thematic overtones. Say all this is true, then what? What are the implications? I doubt Toby would add some element to his story just because it's cool.
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>>575162675
inferno of jealousy is still relevant, as it applies to ralsei instead of the expected asgore
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>>575163696
his color contacts melted
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>>575163689
blue rhymes with plue
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>>575163523
I really hope the petal feather sticks around as a gimmick like the climbing gear, that shit rules. Maybe give Kris an airdash upgrade or something too while you're at it, Toby.
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>>575163696
I KNEW IT

RALSEI IS DESS AND ASRIEL'S ABORTED FETUS
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built for me
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>>575163689
Draw blue please:<
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>>575163778
her boobies are balding
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fujo is NOT a loli, stop UOOOHing her
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>>575163523
Why. Anon. Could we not get chapter 5 but also have Asgore actually do fucking anything. I don't care if the guy just made us play Stardew Valley with him so long as he was doing something on screen where I saw it and it felt like an actual something going on.

I'm glad you loved the platforming but I could get my emulator and play Gunstar Heroes or some shit, it's a better 2d platformer because it was always meant to be a platformer.
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>>575163823
fur rubbed off from too much touching like how statues will turn gold
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>>575163641
Imagine she is revealed to be the Roaring Knight like The Boys comics ending with Black Noir revealing to be a Homelander clone who did the every evil thing Homelander allegedly "did"
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>>575163790
d-draw someone who isn’t covered in fur?…
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>>575163696
i disagree because his pupils are smaller and then they go back to normal once he puts his glasses back on. the hooker lids are NATTY
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>>575163696
Matthew 25:32-33
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>>575163482
This right here is the major difference between the players who liked chapter 5 and those who didn’t. I don’t care if the flowers were there only for one chapter, in fact it made them appreciate the dialogue and time I had with them as it’s an actual goodbye instead of “see ya in castle town”. I didn’t need everything to tie into the lore and felt sad when it was over and I had to, well, return to the lore and prophecy at the end.
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>>575163867
If you want to see Asgore do dumb shit go play Undertale
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>>575163896
Draw blue with fur please 8(
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>>575163482
But they did matter.
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>>575163896
Just imagine drawing a scalie, but like without the scale marks. I know its very scary and hard but client is always at the top position
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>>575163750
It's not relevant. Inferno of Jealousy didn't happen, it's a dead idea. Dead and buried. The inferno got cast on a random prop item.
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>>575163696
>runny eye mascara Ralsei is canon
MUH
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I meant to say pluey coughing a hair ball but autocorrect fucked m3 and autopost made it blue so im dying on the blue hill now. Its the only thing that can heal the piss smell
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You now remember that people complained Toriel didnt do anything in chapter 3....
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>>575164030
The inferno of jealousy became the passive aggression of jealousy
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The Breadcrumbs Glitch in Mother 1 was only performable in the Japanese version
If you're playing in English your weird route save is bricked
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>>575163897
hate to use the term media literacy but when a character's eyes change while commenting on washing his eyes, yeah it's an intentional interaction.
ralsei is a lightner pretending to be a darkner because he has autism or something
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>>575163930
This. Toriel and Undyne didn’t do shit either, and the latter got no-diffed like Asgore by the Knight. Asgore at least talks and kicks us out of the dark world.

Expect previous UT characters who were bosses there to not be significant here, and vice versa, see Gerson and Asriel. Flowey’s the exception, but Flowery is radically different from Flowey anyway unlike Asgore or Toriel with their UT versions.
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what does this little blueberry buttfucker even want, and why do they want it so bad they're literally willing to help murder their dad to make it happen?
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>>575164203
They want dess back
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I hate the internet someone please save me
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>>575163930
He's not really a core character in Undertale either.

If anything chapter 5 made me kind of dislike him. He seems childish. Just throwing tantrums, seems like he can't use his words well, isn't very smart of perceptive. Am I supposed to think he's this dumb? I mean maybe but honestly you see him for a few minutes and that's it. I play this game for the story and characters and I just did not get that this chapter.

"Last fun" nothing. There's a difference between calm and boring filler.
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>>575164030
have you ever paid attention to ralsei? like at all?
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>>575164197
I do think Toby will do a "Lost Souls" reprise and people might get their Toriel/Undyne/Asgore fights in chapter 7.
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>>575164249
*holds your boobs*
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I'll say it. Flowery's "redemption" at the end was forced as fuck and very climsy. The fact Ralsei went from I fucking hate this guy to crying over his dead body from one single cool anime moment is some of the worst writing in the whole game.
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>>575163595
It's about being forced to grow up too fast
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>>575163696
>ralsei is wearing kris' old red horn headband
>ralsei is also wearing makeup
>asgore comments on how he can't even tell if ralsei is a monster at all

>mfw ralsei's light world identity is chara
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>>575164272
He's crying and bawling over Flowery's stupid ass at the end, Ralsei isn't all that jealous. He even saves Flowery from your attacks in the final fight.
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>>575164308
are you stupid
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>>575164308
Some of you guys fundamentally do not get this game's characters.
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>>575164307
Hold MY Bob's, IDIOT
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>>575163871
>uuu...uuu...I did things! fun things!
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>>575164203
to keep their promise
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so kris creates more dark fountains to expand the world and potentially finally find dess alive? how are they so sure that dess is in the dark world?
man, i can only think of code lines that says something like "it's so dark..."
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>>575163339
I hate how everyone just draws the holidays with the knight's horns now, it's gonna age like shit in a year when the knight's some dude named byuu chungus.
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Carol anon is actually drawing blue lmao. Can't wait to see it when I get home my phones about to die rip love u all into the void I gooooo
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>>575164408
Okay. *starts jorking you off*
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>>575164249
man imagine having to Survive The Internet.......sigh........
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>>575164086
Oh, the theories. Toriel as party member in chapter 3, Asgore’s trashed flowers turning into Flowey or something similar, Kris being the Knight…
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>>575164308
Flowery didn't need "redemption" he never did anything wrong.
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>>575164323
No I actually came across the artist on Twitter. The entire point of the pic is to criticize heteronormality.
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>>575164226
1) pure speculation, 2) kris's DAD is going to die for this, why is that even something they're okay with?
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i can't hold ANY boobs around here without it being at least a 50% chance of belonging to a man
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>>575164308
you didn't like seeing anagramed asriel being a hater for the golden flower guy but then goes sentimental when he then turns into that oh so familiar golden flower, remember that flower guys? it's not relevant though am I right, or is it... oooo the mysterrrry of nothiiiiing
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Some posts in this thread are so fucking retarded I'll just assume they're bait
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>>575164308
Don't let them gaslight you, you're right. Fuck Flowery. If you see what they're doing to try to make you like him and you don't buy into it, then his big heroic sacrifice at the end comes across as needless and stupid. Like congrats, idiot, you did nothing and died. Good job. It's also great you fought us so you could stay in a dark world that makes Asgore mad and that will kill you. You're so great, I'll reflect so hard on your wisdom, wow.
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>>575162512
>Every other chapter had an underbelly of something sinister while that was completely absent from Chapter 5
Kris starts the Chapter almost dead from losing their SOUL, has an uncomfortable reconciliation with their parents, gets overwhelmed with nostalgia thinking about going to the Festival with Noelle if you check around their house and has two landmine references to December before you reach the school
The Festival immediately leads you into the Goner Squad doing a bunch of surreal and offputting bullshit, heading south leads you to Rudy on the ladder hoisting a gigantic Death Flag, being told that Carol is "investigating" the Shelter, and when you go to the Church you break Catti's heart. Riding the Ferris wheel gives you either Kris being left out and thinking about their childhood with Noelle again, Susie talking to Kris about her time with Ralsei that Kris couldn't be a part of and how Ralsei can't be with them at the Festival, or setting off a nuclear bomb of Kriselle yearning if you set that up. Elsewhere we have Burgerpants getting catfished and also having his heart broken, Jockington growing the beard, and Sans whipping out the fucking "Don't Forget" card. The Festival ends with Kris miserable and Noelle's date getting cut short because her dad is fucking dying.

That's just the Light World section, should I keep going?
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>>575164514
OUCH YOUCH OUGH OW OUHH OW HElP RAPE RAPE RAPE
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>>575164478
"Don't forget, i'm with you in the dark."
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>>575164579
spin the wheel make a deal
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575164512
so excited for another mid drawing
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>>575164203
Kris is literally just evil and hates the monsters other than Asriel. They want to bring the town to ruin
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>>575164195
nah man
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MAKE ANOTHER FUCKING THREAD ALREADY
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>>575164570
Oh then what the hell is is up with the shoe part
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aDESS WITH MASCONG TAPE :Oooooo
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>>575164740
>>575164740
>>575164740
plutein
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>>575164646
draw it yourself then pussy
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>>575163339
Kris is a short king confirmed

>>575164570
>hurr ackshuyally t's supposed to be making fun of you stop liking it chud
Why does this keep happening?
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oh my god
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>>575164596
wait they are not bait ????
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>>575164203
it all goes back to blue. blue blue-be-do, was your love true?
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>>575163709
The player is associated with the sky, which is your viewpoint into the world in the light world. The player-SOUL is constantly associated with light and warmth (it keeps the bedsheets on the cage warm), and therefore has associations with fire and sight (think of the burning eyes motif throughout the game.) In Undertale, Asgore says the prophecy involves a savior who will "come from the heavens," which invokes the Angel, but also fits a fallen star; wormwood is often seen as both a fallen star and a fallen angel. The player is essentially the meteor metaphorically, and glass - the prophecy, which is the plot of the game, and the gameplay - grows because of your arrival. But this isn't a bad thing. You bring light to the world, observe it, give it meaning that it wouldn't have otherwise. These characters have grown so much thanks to their adventures, which happen because of you - or because a meteor happened to land near their town.
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>>575164613
you forgot the secret street. there’s a street between the flower shop one and the diner one, but kris and the game do not allow you to see it. it’s shown on hometown’s map in the town hall. kris even closes their eyes instead of letting us see hometown from above, when chapter 2 let us see the ferris wheel.

oh, and also the police tape. previously it was assumed it was there for the festival, now it’s there for another mystery.
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>>575164517
Please... you're making me sad... don't do this to me right before i go to bed...
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>>575164726
They're human sized shoes. Kris is the one who should be wearing them.
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>>575164702
We were on page 6, there's no fucking hurry
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>>575164203
>why is the evil character evil
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>>575164606
but bro... a flower's dream... it's so meaningful... telling the prince of the dark to literally destroy the only dark world that can harbor any darkner indefinitely is so smart... the flowers aren't mortifyingly selfish or retarded at all!
the real answer is it doesn't matter how dumb it is if it worked to deceive susie, flowery and seth were tricked into working with kris's conspiracy to engineer a scenario where asgore can get kidnapped. it's a pure copium reading for an otherwise unsalvageable chapter, but i'm sticking to it until i can't anymore.
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>>575164939
i'll chill on em, had a prebake i wanted to get out cause i'm multitasking
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>>575164771
yo gort
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Its hilarious how the dumbest posters all hate chapter 5
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It's hilarious how the dumbest posters all love chapter 5 and can't into grammar.
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>>575165082
>Don't have enough reading comprehension to understand plot of chapter
>get upset at how bad the plot you imagined reading is
>decide to make up a new plot instead
>that plot's worse
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>>575164902
Ah OK that brings it together then, I get it now
Like I got the heteronormativity bit but it thought there was an additional thing about being made to grow up faster than you want to due to being pushed into those gender roles
Partly because this KotH clip was fresh in my mind
https://youtu.be/aaMsTZzMxKk
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>>575164606
>It's also great you fought us so you could stay in a dark world that makes Asgore mad and that will kill you.
For just a brief moment they got to be really, truly alive. They weren't just stuck in a glass jar immobile and unthinking, they could actually move and play and cook and fight and love. "wtf why are the flowers trying to stop me if they're going to die in a few days grrr!" fundamentally misunderstands the whole point of their characters that the game literally beats you over the head with a dozen times
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Flowery revealing they all would have died soon just really pushes it over the line for me. Like really that was your plan? Let's be Asgore's new family until we all die then he's alone again? Like hello?
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>>575165308
>>Don't have enough reading comprehension to understand plot of chapter
>the plot of the chapter that was so good ralsei and susie had to be completely out of character and forgetting everything important until the very end to make it happen
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>>575165598
allegations still stand
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>>575165576
They wanted to show Asgore a better world to repay him for a lifetime of caring for them while his own life fell apart. Even if it was only temporary, they were willing to die to do that.
Flowery explains this to you directly at the end of the Chapter, I don't see what's hard to understand about it.
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>>575165576
>bro does not understand wanting to die at the happiest hour with the people you care for the most
I would love if this happened in my life, to go out in bliss.

Dark worlds make you forget hunger and thirst since dark world food and water satisfy the mind’s hunger and thirst, but your real body is still starving or thirsty. The flowers would’ve died peacefully without thirst in the dark world.
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>>575165204
stop being noellefriendphobic please
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i ate a mint and i am fucing dying, please help me
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>>575166245
umm that's the opposite of what they do though?
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>>575165675
susie, in the past two chapters, has learned that the knight
>is real
>can absolutely rape the entire gang's ass
>cannot be reasoned with
>wants to kidnap people, and is capable of kidnapping someone who can bench press cars
>can start the roaring at ANY TIME
but spends the entire chapter jerking around with the flowers and brooding about noelle, and ends the chapter with the suggestion that she get her skittish helpless new girlfriend in on the dark world adventures despite knowing how fucking dangerous they are.

ralsei
>is literally meta-aware
>knows in broad strokes how the plot is supposed to play out
>knows that castle town is the only dark world that can support any darkner indefinitely, and that it likely has significance in his version of the prophecy later on
but does not shit on flowery for making the dumbest, most shortsighted and selfish answer to the "we can't have two dark worlds" conundrum conceivable. he instead spends the whole chapter seething about how "right" flowery is about everything and eventually caving to prove he and the gang are better than him somehow.
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>>575166569
>>can start the roaring at ANY TIME
and hasn't which means it apparently doesn't care

>she get her skittish helpless new girlfriend in on the dark world adventures despite knowing how fucking dangerous they are.
getting noelle involved is unironically a good idea for getting into the bunker, given susie's current knowledge. She's not going to fucking Susie's Idea her at the knight.

>ralsei
sorry, is your complaint that he didn't interrupt susie immediately shitting on flowery's idea to shit on it harder himself?
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>>575168109
>and hasn't
Jesus fucking Christ why did you even reply? You know for a story to make sense, characters in that story need to REMEMBER THINGS they learn and ACT REASONABLY ON WHAT KNOWLEDGE THEY HAVE, regardless of whether that knowledge is complete or accurate at all? This is literally why Queen backs down after only a single conversation.

>getting noelle involved is unironically a good idea
It's also unironically the best way to put her in danger of being kidnapped by the super powerful kidnapping demon with unknown goals and motivations

>sorry, is your complaint that he didn't interrupt susie immediately shitting on flowery's idea to shit on it harder himself?
Actually, yes, because Susie is only coming at it from the perspective of it being the gang's "home", overlooking it functioning as a haven for all darkners, and it's potential importance in the prophecy
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>>575164570
>this thing between a nonbinary person and a woman is [woman x woman]
how bigoted
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>>575177515
you're in the dead thread and will now be pulled into the underworld
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I think i got what that anon meant exclusively focusing on porn really does limit artistic evolution
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