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Grim Reaper Edition

Previous cosplay: >>575179010

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-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
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>https://deltarune.com/#news
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Being an undertale/deltarunefag is suffering because i keep hearing the same fucking leitmotifs everywhere and i feel like i'm having a psychosis attack
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Doenut
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I LOVE TV
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Fawn > Her
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I'VE HAD IT WITH YOU FUCKERS *opens a mysterious green fountain*
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ralsei butt
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i love ralsei...i hope she gets lots of focus in chapter 6 again...
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>>575212508
do not nut in doe.

picture not related, just here to make pipp-plappers mad. bitches wished they could make good OCs.
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Next person to mention gender issues is gay and trans
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I WANT TO FUCK SETH
WHERE IS MY GOVERNMENT MANDATED SETH FWB
GRRRAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Now that its been over a month since ch5, have your opinions changed on it at all? Do you still like or dislike certain characters or events?
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"I have a moral duty to crack the eggs of pre-trans kids," Toby Fox said.
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>>575212712
>she
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The one really big glaring issue I have with Chapter 5 as a whole, even understanding what Toby was mostly trying to do with it really is like.. Wasn't the ending a bit tone-deaf? Like even ignoring the wish of wanting things to escalate or the likes.. Flowerys dead. Okay, cool. I get sealing the fountain, I get trying to patch him up. Found a code? Nice. But then they just.. calmly walk home? Not even a MENTION of.. yknow, Asgore, Kris LITERAL fucking father figure, even if Kris was aware of it happening, not even SUSIE reacting him being kidnapped? No trying to chase after? Not even a single LOOK in the entire bottom half of town for any sort of clue or remnant or trace? Witnesses? Like they chase after the Knight when Undyne gets kidnapped like their lives depend on it and because it didnt work out then they just.. dont even bother?

Am I missing something? Is it hack writing? Is it supposed to show off Susie being a bit TOO blinded by the fun adventures? Like the fact its playing some music box version of the festival / noelle / susie theme after?? Are we just not gonna mention that? At all? And must move on? "Thanks for walking me home, have a GOOD night man." like NOTHING happened?
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bottoming for ralsei (it's so small you can't really feel it but it's cute looking at his face while he desperately pounds at you)
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>>575212742
Jevildoe is so fucking hot. I will say Pipp OCs are cute but I agree theyre not exactly unique or interesting OCs. Thats good anon
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they inflated her...
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>>575212605
ralsei hips and thighs
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i wish i could draw...
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>>575212742
>ran to the next tread to avoid confrontation
You really are a pussy lol but at least you're honest with the avatarfagging now
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>>575211698
Wow....
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>>575212869
oh and also leg locking can't believe i forgot that
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i just want everyone to know my chapter 2 theory that the schizos would be the 5 stages if grief was 100% correct

jevil=denial (they made a cage around their whole world, now i’m the only free one)
knight=anger (the ROARING knight, screams at you when you first meet, makes a titan whose only desire is to destroy)
spamton=bargaining (I can’t force you Kris, but look at the power of neo and ask yourself, don’t you wanna be a big shot?)
Pink=Depression (hides away in her room her whole life, talks to people through a door, hates everything about herself)
Gerson=Acceptance (the prophecy can’t be changed, but you can go between the lines and get a better ending that way)
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WHAT THE FUCKING BOOK
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what would you do if goats were real
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>>575212823
yep she cute
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>Game doesn't acknowledge whether you've never flirted or not
>Game doesn't acknowledge whether you've fought jevil

GAME is RUINED. Toby Fox is a HACK and the ending will be DISAPPOINTING
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>>575213049
why are they out of order then
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>>575212921
Horrible perspective fucking christ
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>>575212797
For anyone who still doesn't "get" Chapter 5 this should help things click for you
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>>575212829
The ending of ch5 is my least favorite part of the game so far yes. It made me feel crazy. And you can't talk about it on other sites because people just go "of course Susie wants Noelle there they're girlfriends and Noelle gets them another shelter code (even though you don't need to tell her about the dream to do that)"
What chapter 5 kinda accidentally highlighted is that the kidnappings don't matter. Nobody down there is in any real danger. We're not quite supposed to know that (Ralsei just said there's not IMMEDIATE threat of death to Undyne), but ch5's ending accidentally tips the author's hand that it's all bullshit.
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>makes anons seethe just by existing
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>>575212869
>>575213008
MORE
>>575212941
pick up the pencil, anon! you never improve if you never start!
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>did you seriously just ask for a single plot to be resolved before chapter 7?
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>>575213107
He’s going to have to implement flags in earlier chapters to make this work.
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>>575212361
Hooman!
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how did you manage to talk about transei AGAIN?
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>>575213164
it was all mixed up
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period theory: susie is a monster because she’s on her period
at the end of the story, her period will be over and she’ll turn back into a human
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>>575213301
it's saturday morning, what else are we going to do
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>>575213301
Pussying out of posting your tumblr OC already? Wow
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>>575213436
i have to cut the grass before it gets hot again
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*flowery voice* My Goat!
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>>575213436
talk about the ga-
you know what, you might have a point there.
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>>575212829
curious, so please answer sincerely because i am in a similar boat yet wondering if you think similarly: if in thr future it's revealed what susie saw at the end of the prophecy in chapter 4 has changed her behavior in chapter 5, would it make the weirdness of this scene you describe any better? i've been somewhat believing susie is doing the dark world party/sleeping in a closet thing to brace herself for the future battle. it's also why i felt she was more okay with bows, or calling ralsei out when he bullied orange instead of making a fuss. of course that could all be wrong and i've misinterpreted something so who knows. also, i am happy seeing my art get reposted heh
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I AM VINDICATED! PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO SEE ONIONSAN AS A GIRL NOW! NORTH KOREA IS VICTORIZING!
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>>575213301
it's a divisive topic because trannies are irritating and ralsei is either seen as 'eh he's cute' or 'this is literally my favorite character' and no1 really wants him to be a troon except for troons. it would be so miserable
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Would fave call you a philistine?
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>>575213203
Right? Like, Im not sure if that was just a massive brainfart in the writers room but by giving ANOTHER kidnapping this time of not just a character thats closer to the CHARACTERS but also basically the actual owner of the dark world this time. You know, like as if The Knight had succeeded with Toriel back in ch3, such little reaction to the point where its immediate shoved aside for more understandable issues like fixing flowery and a shelter code since thats a way in anyway, but also just like... ohhh ohhh Kris... ohh this terrible fight.. we need more people.. can i invite my girlfriend.. is just insane. Im a firm believer that the shadow crystal dialogue that was removed, i.e "You saw Undyne frozen in a block of ice" really did mean something in the sense of them more being preserved. Would explain why even the writers would wave it off this chapter to focus on all the more recent developments between characters.
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>>575213483
oh WOW, look at this [[BIG SHOT]] over here with a LAWN that they need to TAKE CARE OF. look at this ONE-PERCENTER BILLIONAIRE FUCK.
i'm kidding anon go do your yardwork
>>575213503
i like talking about the game!
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>>575213225
Fujo I want our clits to kiss
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>>575213227
uhh
i'm out of ideas sorry
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>>575213549
Did Okegom make this?
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>>575213562
I swear they didn’t care about ralsei until ch5 loll
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>>575213194
This is so disingenuous. It's a mystery game complete with an online interactive ARG. The premise of the game is that a Mysteryman connects to us asking us for help to create a new ending. Don't have the audacity to say "that doesn't matter and it's cringe to care about it, you're like Asgore abusing his family for wanting to figure the game out instead of blindly walking through fate like Susie and laughing at scrimblos".
What a pseud. "All the details the creator intentionally tempted you with don't matter and you're dumb for caring about them instead of shutting your brain off. I am very smart!"
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>>575213164
why not? huh? huh? you trying to start something bubby? HUH?!
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>>575213676
draw seth.
DO IT DO IT DO IT RIGHT NOW DO IT ANON I DON'T CARE HOW BAD YOU THINK IT IS I NEED THIS RIGHT NOW ANON
>>575213731
i've always cared about ralsei!
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personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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If Susie was actually smart, which she genuinely is sometimes, when the knight showed up she would've immediately bolted to escape the Dark World and wait outside to beat their ass because she believes they're too physically weak to beat her in the Light World.
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a reminder to anons this morning if you see any bait, the sharty underages are here
>>575213549
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/574171217/#q574173559
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>>575212797
My opinion was very positive when I first played it, and has stayed very positive. My favorite Chapter so far. But my love for Flowery has actually increased!
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>>575213775
i'm the other guy posting about ralsei topping
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>>575212797
I still think most of the Flowers are middling characters aside from Aqua, Seth and Flowery.
I still think Susie's writing is strange compared to 1 - 4 and everything to do with her feels like we're in a holding pattern until Chapter 6.
I like Pink, she seems like a sweetheart when she's settled and not high on anime protagonist juice. Certainly the least immediately interesting of the Shadow Crystal bosses but I like that she's "saved" from going schizo. Besides, the real finale is Seam anyway.
Asgore was handled better than I thought he'd be
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i'm not sure how to phrase this but everything comes from somewhere and so many themes are often shared between stories, so it seems pretty easy to say "x plotline or scene is obviously referencing or mirroring y plotline or scene", does that make sense? i just thought of that when i saw this image. yeah you could totally say a blonde girl who has a relation to cats and is thrust into an escapist fantasy land is an alice in wonderland allegory, but i doubt that was consciously toby's intent, even if you could probably find enough proof that it was if you dug (e.g. alice having a sister... guess who also has a sister)
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>>575213509
That is the ONE way out I'm giving this development, honestly. If this is all revealed as one last adventure even in SUSIES mind, or even just cope of "maybe the prophecy isnt so bad" because whatever she saw just mindbroke her THAT hard, THEN I can go yeah you know what? Fair enough. Kris wouldnt talk about it because he both knows and is a little emo bitch, so if thats HER reason, I get why this felt so weirdly tone-deaf.

Also its genuine comedy gold. Im a sucker for the As you know Carol jokes. The fucking starving Friend kids and that smug politcal newspaper caricature artist type Ralsei is stuff so funny I dont think I could come up with a joke drawing nearly as good lmao
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>>575213784
can i post something unrelated to UT/DR
in return i'll try to draw the first thing suggested to me that isn't too complex (i'm not really an artist)
>>575213843
based
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>>575213549
I know, none of the recent arts depict her as fat, however, this is enough to ensure North Korean Victory!
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>>575213731
this is generally the case. they'll claim they totally did but on twitter, if you search accounts, there's absolutely no mention of him and they're normally obsessed with another character :/
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does kris want side B or not?
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>>575213246
He doesn't because he's a HACK
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>>575213194
I can’t parse what point this is trying to make, that the flowers are to prevent potential edginess overload?
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All real Ralsei fans loved him since chapter 1 and want him to stay as a femboy
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>>575213712
https://xcancel.com/weemonstah
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>>575213784
Reposting this Aqua from >>575197651
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>>575213194
One line out of an entire chapter doesn’t change much of my opinion
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>robert won’t sell any merch of the lightners because… the LORE
that’s the dumbest shit i’ve ever heard
who the fuck does he think he is?
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Anti Timeloop Schizo LOST
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>>575214035
It's saying that if you thought chapter 5 was "filler" then you're like Asgore missing his children growing up because he's too focused on solving That Fateful Day. What you should be doing is not caring about what happened that much and just enjoy the dark world adventures like Susie.
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>>575214005
theory: "Side B" is short for "Side Bitch" because kris is cucking susie
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>>575214065
Trueee the power of fluffy boys shines within us all
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>>575213194
The mysteries people are interested are directly connected to the protagonist of the game and their back story and their motivations, solving the mystery solves Kris.
This isn't about being smart, this about knowing what the fuck is going on with the main character.
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>>575214065
TRVKE
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I see Mew and I hide the post, it's that simple.
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The thing about Dessknight (weird darkness beast form) and Kriselle knight is that they're the only theories that would explain how someone could kidnap Asgore and successfully immediately sprint across town carrying him. No one in the Deltarune Light World besides fucking Onionsan should be strong enough to even overpower him, let alone just heft this dude up and dead sprint with him on their shoulder
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>>575213892
i'm in the same boat as you then. i'll only feel disappointed at chapter 5 if chapter 6 does not deliver, it's the first chapter that's made me feel this way. i think it's made worse by the kidnap target being a character we see every chapter, who is also kris's dad, and had a dark world revolving around him rather than undyne who at this point only alphys cares about. because comparitively, susie freaked out more at undyne than asgore
and thank you anon, the labels on stan kelly cartoons make me kek so i tried to emulate it
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>>575213923
y'know what i'm just going to post it anyway
here is my comic, KIRBY KILLS THE PRESIDENT
now give me something to draw
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>>575214210
Ah. That makes more sense. Unfortunately I am staunchly on Asgore’s side that solving the case took priority so I disagree with the sentiment.
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>>575213635
I invite you to speak.
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>>575214161
What bugs me about the trans Ralsei stuff is I've literally bought merchandise of Ralsei like a retard and if Ralsei is transfem and wants to change their appearance at all then the merchandise I bought is now literally "transphobic media" because it deadnames/deadshows them or whatever
So then why the fuck did you let me buy merchandise of a trans character before they transition Toby you NIGGER
and if he's not trans then why did you put the most red meat trans scene ever into the game I KNOW YOU'RE FROM TUMBLR TOBY YOU KNEW HOW THAT SCENE WOULD COME OFF YOU ASSHOLE
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>>575213676
My advice, more as a writefag than a drawfag but surely this applies to both, keep a notepad document open for green ideas. If you have an idea that tickles your fancy, that you want to see realized in some way, jot it down there with maybe preliminary brainstorming so you can return to it in time.

>>575213923
Anchor's typically for UT/DR stuff, if you want you could make it where your post is a double feature. Having both the UT/DR idea and non UTDR thing.
>Idea
Noelle holding Aqua with the following Meme: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ive-only-had-arlo-for-a-day-and-a-half

Just realized but has anyone used the chapter skipping oddities as a way to showcase Kris characterization even if it might not make sense for lines given in the later/present chapter?
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>>575214474
chapter 7 will be THE ROOK because it takes place in castle town which has been invaded by the knight. i'll see you in two years when i am proven right
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>>575214035
You see anon, the Asgore's obsession fueled by guilt over not being able to save December and not figuring out the danger that took her, the guilt that made him to view others like his family as holding him personally responsible for what happened, falling into a myre of self-hatred that drove the people he loved away is meant to parallel the player's obsession driven by boredom or whatever
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>>575214390
Good thing that's a rare Pokemon anon you won't have to hide much
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>>575214390
just don't look under the truck bro
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STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT GENDER YOU STUPID FUCKING CHUDS
IF I WANTED TO BROWSE TWITTER I WOULD OPEN TWITTER
TALK ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH UNDERTALE CHARACTERS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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>>575214735
huge missed opportunity for the mew mew doll to be on the truck instead of under it
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>>575214407
Big agree. If chapter 6 really punches up on the stakes now to an insane degree this will retroactively work exactly as he intended as a little last break before the end. But if he pulls the same 90% random stuff almost overshadowing anything with bigger impact? I think that'll retroactively make 5 look worse too. I dont really agree with a lot of criticism, but if there is one Ive heard a lot that I wholeheartedly agree with its that hes definitely gonna have to start tackling some elephants from now on. Even just adding even more mysterious shit like muh depths and muh seeds with warning labels doesnt help.

Its also why I believe that Toby is in NO way that bad a writer from what weve seen so far. He wouldnt maker her punch the shelter after sprinting there for Undyne and just make her almost ignore and go "oh well bye ig" for Asgore if there wasnt something seriously fucky with her.

I'd say you succeeded! Thank you for making me laugh
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i love that this stupid gay cat btfo all the theorists TWICE!
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>>575214610
tenna just randomly yaps how he is referred to as "rook" just shortly after, he is "removed from play" by the knight.

there might be two rooks.
because hell, there are two kings.
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>>575214798
i want to have sex with pink and give her a reach around
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>>575214541
>Noelle holding Aqua
i will do my best! just give me some time, i really don't draw much of anything, never have, so my "technique" is to just wing it until it looks at least somewhat "acceptable" according to my (admittedly low) standards
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>>575214798
Spider pussy
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>>575214474
Nta but the right path is a sword to tie in with hints and connections between sword route and weird route. It leads to a dead end without a key because obviously Kris has experienced those events before and knows nothing good comes of themselves. You can see the "key" from there but never reach it without retreading the "normal" path after wasting your time
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if ralsei is kris’s imaginary friend then does that mean that kris wants asriel to be trans?
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>>575214539
>Blue and pink are his main characters colors
>He's obviously wanting Flowery to come off as a flirty douchebag
It's that simple. He likely just wasn't thinking of trannies or forgot that trannies think of themselves constantly and see themselves everywhere
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>>575214869
>beautiful trans metaphor
>gets a bittersweet ending where she grows as a person
>fun fight, great theme
>makes theoryschizos seeth
>makes chuds seeth
How does she do it?
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>>575215163
literally anything is a trans metaphor bc the experience is just that shallow
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When you're constipated, finally getting the shit out of your colon is a trans metaphor because you're opening space in yourself for better things and expelling what harmed you.
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>>575214798
chara’s repulsion towards humanity is constantly at odds with their body’s demand to breed
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>>575215007
i tried to explain to some anon a few days past that when we win the game having aborted the weird route to play the twisted route, then we might find the knife at the start of the game in castle town's communal chest.

he was irate and said how the chapter has nothing scripted for it, but i am pretty sure that you will be allowed to absolutely slay EVERYTHING and actually gain strength.

this will be analogous to the no mercy route, because it continues a half-assed genocide route to its completion where you get the chance to destroy everything.
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>>575214720
This is what weirdfags want btw
>>575214798
The chuds haven't jerked off yet today so we have to deal with their sexual fixations until mommy goes grocery shopping
>>575214957
Based
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welp
I guess its back to deadlock while waiting for chapter 6....
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>>575215163
anon, its not a trans metaphor.
its just a darkner.
it can't cut off its dick and seethe about it for years until it ropes itself.
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>>575215145
this is where we differ, dear anon. i love ralsei BECAUSE of these qualities. he wants everything to be "just so" and is willing to go to great lengths to shape the world exactly as he sees fit, regardless of whether it's "good" or "bad" for the people he supposedly loves. he's a manipulative little freak, and his comeuppance will be delicious to me. i want to see him fall, i want to see him meet the consequences of his actions and deal with the bitter fallout.
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>>575215431
ew
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>>575215302
my stomach hurting is a trans metaphor for repression desu
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>>575215586
you are having trans-period cramps.
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things kinda took a SIDE B back there…
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>>575215163
>>575215472
The good thing about the ghost thing is you can read it in many ways including just literally. On paper every sane person should be fine with it.
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>>575215535
Fuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkk I love pedo groomer dess so much
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pizza for breakfast!
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ralsusie godssssss where you attttt
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>>575215163
>beautiful trans metaphor
no
>gets a bittersweet ending where she grows as a person
it was boring
>fun fight
kek
>great theme
miku slop made for the sole intent to go viral
>makes theoryschizos seeth
her line of dialogue is the only part of the chapter theoryGODs really like. but again, that's not mew herself, that's just her awareness of something more interesting and deltarune related
>makes chuds seeth
the entirety of chapter 5 makes me seethe because it's shit
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>>575215472
you have wasted hours of your life on a game that actively despises you, everyone laugh at this idiot
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>>575215874
they're a good friendship to me maybe the cuddle sessions get heated but can i sit with you
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>>575215959
okay?
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>>575215535
>>575215804
I like the Dess groomer theory because it allows me to project onto Kris and cope with my own experiences as an altar boy.
Furthermore, the Catholic church must be destroyed.
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>>575215163
>>575215959
You need to go back.
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>>575216035
Yeah sure anon I saved a spot just for you. Come n get all cozy n shit
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>>575215959
toby is sympathetic to all mindsets, chuds included. otherwise it would be laughably easy to shut them up for good, just tweet that kris is nonbinary and we're all wrong and that it's not open for interpretation. it would take 2 seconds. but he's never gonna do that because he doesn't want to isolate anyone, he knows nobody really has an issue with homosexuals in 2026 so suselle is fine
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>>575215543
I had chapter 5 on my backlog for like 3 weeks because I knew that if I played it, then I'd have nothing else to play while dealing with the shitty feeling of waiting for my next fix.
I can't even imagine how shitty Im gonna feel when chapter 7 comes out and theres nothing left
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When it's revealed how Toriel was responsible for Dess's disappearance, will the Asgore haters choose their integrity or will they turn a blind eye like always?
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>>575215874
i like basically all the ships and find it adorable that ralsei brushed susie's hair
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>>575216178
>do you think that even the worst person can change...?
>that everybody can be a good person, if they just try?
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>>575216161
based
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>>575216178
>nobody has an issue with homosexuals in 2026
i don't mean to be like a first-time jerker and long-time buster and be like "come again?"
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>asriel lied about coming home
>toriel drinks
>asgore used to hit toriel
>ralsei keeps… “replicas”… of his friends that he does… “things” to
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>>575215318
>i tried to explain to some anon a few days past that when we win the game having aborted the weird route to play the twisted route
I disagree with the idea that there will be a "twisted route," you might get the twisted sword if we really get the pure crystal from the shadow crystals but I doubt it will be it's "own route" with a unique ending let alone a good one. Toby has never made you do the evil stuff to get a good or better ending and it would undermine one of the major themes or the series to start now
>but i am pretty sure that you will be allowed to absolutely slay EVERYTHING and actually gain strength
One of the central themes of the series is that "getting stronger" at the expense of others isn't how you get things. The twisted route stuff all feels so contrived and I haven't seen actual compelling evidence for it
>but the recipe
Yes yes, I know. The recipe has existed as long as the thorn ring and tricky tony put it right in our face. Unlike the thorn Ring and the pure crystal there's absolutely no hints about what it would do. The only thing that currently checks for the twisted sword is the same damage check on the titan that checks for the black shard to deal extra damage. No other flags or conditions, even after an update put in new flags for past chapters to check for future content. Im not saying it's impossible it would do anything, I'm saying I find it equally likely that the recipe is a red herring to let any player know about the existence of a "thorn ring."
>but the aborted weird route
Noelle is gonna crash out no matter in chapter 6 because her dad is dying or dead. It might be slightly better or worse depending on player choices but every other crazy thing so far from the weird route, including almost drowning has been swerved back onto the main route with minimal interruptions
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>>575216362
this art is so adorable
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>>575216326
this could apply to so many world views. a person's world view in general, is so complex, that it's silly to claim they're a "bad person" if they disagree with you on water being wet

>>575216407
nobody in the united states who isn't a boomer. and even boomers don't really give a fuck anymore, it's not 2011. gays are fine
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>>575216178
>nobody really has an issue with homosexuals in 2026 so suselle is fine
You must be new here
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>>575216102
I'm right where I belong fag, I think you're lost.
>>575215884
Seething chuddy can't comprehend anything beyond the most basic visual concepts, more news at 11
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>>575216489
most of their art is adorable
the ship is even fluffier than kralsei
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>>575212202
Pink in her boss fight and Pink in the shop are completely different characters. I knew they were probably meant to be the same person before the egg drop lore, but shop Mew Mew even has a costume change. The tone is different, she looks different, she doesn't even have the bells on anymore.

Honestly this chapter was such a fuckup in so many ways.

As for how she treats Orange, I didn't take much note of that because it all felt like such a clusterfuck. Ralsei was teasing Orange for no real reason after dicking with me about how cool the secret boss would be. Then Mew Mew just hands over the crystal to really drive home that I guess I was an idiot to think these things were significant somehow. I suspect you can read between the lines and invent your own headcanon for Mew Mew to make her likeable somehow but I couldn't buy into it, personally.
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>>575216362
now I’m imagining Susie saying goodbye to ralsei in ch7 (assuming they have to part ways) and I got really sad thinking about it fuckkkk
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>>575216264
Well for one thing having a different character do something deplorable wouldn't invalidate their main grievance with him, and secondly even if that were stupidly true then it would require Toby writing one of his characters acting objectively evil for no reason and that's not his style so she'd have some kind of justification that could be sympathized with no doubt
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Could (You) please Toriel's 2,2m tall ass?
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>>575216407
i think when they say "nobody", they mean "nobody with a real human conscience"
>>575216493
i don't think anybody is a "bad person" inherently. i believe that we are all born with a pure and good spirit, and that altruism is in our nature as a race. there is very little that is "objectively bad", and much of it is dependent on context. measuring "real material harm" on a broad scale is so difficult as to be nearly impossible. it must be viewed on a case-by-case basis.
>>575216629
go back
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>>575216646
you could take ANY story as a trans metaphor because trans stuff is so basic, is the point being made. do you hate yourself and want to be different, or a "better you"? that's a trans thing. it's also a situation that describes so many other situations. mew could be a metaphor for literally anything, or she could literally be a ghost who gets a body (this plotline has existed long before deltarune, or you and me)
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>>575216782
I have a different hometown mother in mind
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i feel terribly lonely
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>>575216493
>water is wet
you're claiming the trans allegory that has been a trans allegory since 2018 isn't a trans allegory solely because you don't like trannies. that is the opposite of 'water is wet', so your taking this faux-reasonable stance is more than a little absurd.
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>>575216782
No because she's not attractive to me so my heart wouldn't be in it
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>>575216663
she swaps personalities in an instant because that’s what anime girls are like
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>>575216469
to make the sword, you need the thornring.
and for that to be in your inventory, you must actively choose to not control the doe.

you sacrifice your control over her for total control over kris and then you will finally have control over life and death, enemies will not be able to run away from you and you will level up.
YOU will become stronger. not noelle.

the whole story will drastically change with you going mask-off with susie, but if timeloop-shit is true (which it very well might be) then to her, you were always a creep and just simply showed her what you are really capable of.

she will never learn her lesson and kill lancer by accident, she will emotionally withdraw herself and become your delinquent friend. susie will remain in your party until they begin to slow you down or even confront you.

you will kill both of them and you will become stronger. THAT is freedom.
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>>575216909
see >>575216861
it's annoying that you lot claim everything is clearly about you and anyone who disagrees is an evil seething bigot who wants you to die. nah man i'm just tired of hearing about you
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>>575216493
>water is wet
sorry i'm about to "UM ACHSHUALLY" you right now but that's not true! water is what makes things wet. wetness is the state of being saturated with water, and water cannot saturate itself, it is the thing that saturates.
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>>575216663
so you're saying she's... of two minds?
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>>575216362
Imagine the seggs
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>>575216493
>>575216848
>you cant hate gays because time has happened
how will i ever reconcile my justified rage for lies and abuse with "but look at the clock"
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>>575216932
Oh, all I get for chapter 5 are these fucking excuses. I've made peace with the fact that a lot of this stuff is just ass and wasn't fun. There might be reasons it happened or you might be able to try to salvage something from it, but it really was a ton a missed opportunities, fumbled foreshadowing, and unlikable or borderline unlikable characters. The craziest thing is Toby could have saved a lot of dev time by not doing this chapter at all, because it took away more than it added.
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>>575216663
I almost wonder if the shop keeper was meant to be another character, but they were running out of time so they just decided to make her and Mew the same person. The shop keeper is really interesting; Mew herself is just boring as fuck, the tonal shift is bizarre
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>>575216896
me too
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>>575217186
passionate lovemaking
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what do now?
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>>575215874
>>575216035
>>575216362
>>575217186
susie bottoms and ralsei tops. this is ultimate catharsis for both of them
>>575217224
>lies and abuse
you have a very odd way of interpreting the experiences of your fellow humans! i don't think i can help you!
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>>575217224
you can hate them but you're in a minority atp desu even the old rich white boomers at the law firm i work at don't give a fuck about gays. they just exist. who gives a fuck what chuck and steve do in their own homes
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>* Names, names, names! That's what everyone always thinks about.
>* But, what defines you is...
>* ... well, it's your body, isn't it?
It doesn't really matter if they're too fucking stupid to get it or just pretending to be, there's no point in arguing with someone who's too afraid to look at what's right in front of him.
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>>575216971
>you sacrifice your control over her for total control over kris and then you will finally have control over life and death
You realize that the twisted sword gives trance DOWN right? If trance up gives Kris more control over Noelle/makes her more manic, what do you think trance down will do for Kris?
>THAT is freedom
It isn't, the version of events where Kris killed Ralsei and Susie to "get stronger" and cleared the sjelter also already happened. We are trying to avoid that outcome AND the outcome where Kris eats the seeds to avoid doing it
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>>575217387
>susie bottoms and ralsei tops.
>ralsei
>topping
GYAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reminder abort 5 results in time rewinding and the events of 5a happening
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>>575212361
what the average /utg/ female is into
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>>575217498
and yet, kris's hair is still wet..
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>>575217491
hey! just because he has a small dick doesn't mean he can't try his best! be nice! unless he really gets off on the abuse in which case be as mean as you like?
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>>575217453
This is why I don't think she's a trans allegory. What trans person is going to say the body defines the label? This inherently goes against their worldview
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>>575217259
wanna talk about it?
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>>575217415
>you can't hate the tranny baby rapist, they're endangered!
why not try for extinction?
y'know. for the good of humanity.
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>>575217498
>* ... but that's not all, right?
>* Why was your hair all wet?
>* Why did both of you seem so... far away, after?
>* ... I don't... I don't get any of it...
It happened.
It snowed.
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would it be immoral to dark world my house to find something i lost
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>>575217096
Not really, no. I mean you could easily mistake Shopkeep and Mew Mew as being separate, unrelated entities, an part of that is because they change her silhouette completely for the shop so that she's visually indistinct from her boss fight appearance.

And I know you can make excuses, like, "Oh, people change clothes," but from a technical design perspective it's such a bizarre fuckup and I do not understand how it was greenlit.

Except maybe if crunch killed this chapter. Which is the elephant in the room I feel like a lot of people are terrified to ask about, but it would explain a lot of things.
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>>575217606
sure
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>>575217574
i DON'T like you. also his dick is 6 inches exactly that's not small
>h-how do you k-
toby confirmed it in an old q&a
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>>575217565
Because Kris is determined enough to keep part of Abort 5 with him, like How Flowey could keep part of what happened when Frisk reset.
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>>575217756
OFF MODEL SLOP
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>>575217683
alright, here goes nothing
i feel lonely because.... fave ain't real!!!
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>>575217234
i would have asked why you’re in a thread about a game you hate but then i realized you’re from v and that’s all they do
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>>575217592
>chuds are genuinely so autistic they can only interpret "the body defines" as "your body is immutable and cannot change and if you don't like it too bad"
really not beating the mental illness allegations
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>>575217498
i thought we teleported out with bread
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>>575217592
toby is kind of old school truscum and believes transgender is defined by body dysphoria. it is based and real of him

>>575217672
i think it's deliberate that you don't immediately recognize her, not sure why though
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>>575217453
>>575217592
we live in a world now where we have a fair bit of control over our bodies
>>575217726
i... really want to believe you, anon. you're not lying to me, are you? well, are you?
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>>575217726
this is what they don’t understand!! Thank you
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>>575217756
WHERE IS SETH'S PATCHOULI PROPORTIONS THIS IS WRONG
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>>575217592
Reading "people are obsessed with assigning labels to everything and constrained by the body that they were born with" as a positive/affirmative statement is a sub-literate take
The character is self-loathing and seeks to find self-fulfillment and acceptance by changing their name and body. Use your fucking head.
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>>575217756
Sorry man I like chud beta Seth more
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let's agree that pink is not trans.
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>>575217829
But we see 5a happen even if you have never done 5a
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>>575217640
>csa out of nowhere
stop projecting your perverse fantasies onto trannies, freak
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>>575217836
>we live in a world now where we have a fair bit of control over our bodies
kek
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>>575217935
correct
futa is not trans
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>>575214798
I WANNA FUCKING HUG CHARA AND HOLD HER HANDS AND SIT ON HER LAP AS SHE PLAYS VIDYA AND... Maybe even feel her rub my belly as she calls me her good boy, and I just melt my head back to give her kisses.

>Odd Chara question
Do you think Chara would keep her nails long and sharp in case she needs to scratch someone or try to keep em trim?
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>>575217902
you can keep bleating it but thats clearly not the creator's intent. either move on or find something more chudcore to play is my advice
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>>575217987
we had trannies itt just the other day posting fic of tranny dess raping "loli" kris
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>>575217756
>>575217926
nerdy chuds are appealing to me. i can fix them. i can fix them. i promise, i can fix them.
or make them worse! that's also fun!
>>575217640
holy projection
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fucking traitor the game
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>>575217224
>>575217640
>literally THE RAPED they accuses others of being
every accusation is a confession
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>>575218008
there is no girlcock on mew figurines.
its just like a barbie doll, but her panties are super detailed because of japanese creeps.
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>>575218089
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>>575218089
you're so right anon we should execute the writers of murder mysteries
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Noelle has such a fat ass it created a dark fountain
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>>575216663
>>575217235
>Pink in her boss fight and Pink in the shop are completely different characters
She's just in an extremely different mood because of the sunset and the new wonderland she's in (constantly mentions how much the Light World sucks and doesn't want to go back), and she still gets angry and wacky with some option dialogues (calls Susie and Ralsei goofy names, acts tsundere about a couple things, asks if you have any knives). The cartoony anime shenanigans kind of deceptively hide the fact that Deltarune ghosts are fucking miserable, they can't do anything at all. Both MTT and the Mad Ghost were sad enough to have their own shadow crystals associated with their lack of agency. Someone who spends all her time wishing she was something instead of nothing suddenly had her wish granted, the tonal shift is completely understandable.

>invent your own headcanon for Mew Mew to make her likeable somehow but I couldn't buy into it, personally.
Before the darkner body takes over even once she's trying her best to be a different person, fit in within the flowers (Pink is something she came up with) and even forms a bond with the weakling crybaby of the group. You liking or finding this boring nonwitstanding, this is proof she can change, and none of this part of her character arc is headcanonin fact it's extremely cut and dry because of the promises she makes to Ory, to Asgore, and to Kris/the player.

>Then Mew Mew just hands over the crystal to really drive home that I guess I was an idiot to think these things were significant somehow.
The significance is that she doesn't know what the crystal is, only her body darkner did. Two sets of strings: a lightner's will vs a Shadowcrystal's power etc. The underlying point of her conflict is that if she doesn't stop hating herself and rejecting love she'll never grow, corny as hell (UTDR revels in corny all the time mind you) but it's enough for what her character is. Crystal's already powerless.
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>>575217994
people can literally make themselves taller now and buy tons of illegal performance enhancing drugs online. you can even have penis replacement surgery with automated cock. we are living through the golden age of plastic surgery right now. the only barrier is cash
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>>575217741
>kris is determined
but flowey just keeps his memories, kris's hair is still wet
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>>575218109
What's even the worst that happens if they work with the knight? How do we know this isn't all one great big misunderstanding? We should team up
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>>575218252
toby fox will be shot at dawn
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>>575217672
Pink is still clearly Pink, it's not hard to recognize at all. She literally talks to you about having cat ears.
Ralsei's horns face different directions between his portrait and sprites. Get a grip.
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>>575217957
Nta and this is PURELY (mostly) headcanon but I think the bread doesn't just teleport you, it melds you and Noelle into a timeline where all your other choices up to that point happened. However, Susie does still say she found you both soaked on the beach later on in the chapter and Ralsei is still relieved and surprised that Kris turned up safely so idk simplest answer is probably just that Noelle woke up less manic and all the normal afternoon lake stuff happens then
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>>575217843
ralsei as a bottom just works so much better and the fact that he could easily dominate or otherwise has the potential to dominate but will never ever act on it or will otherwise feel guilt if he tries to act on it is such a subtle and exquisite flavor
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You will never be a human, Orange.... NO NONO I'M NOT TRANSPHOBIC
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>>575217484
>You realize that the twisted sword gives trance DOWN right? If trance up gives Kris more control over Noelle/makes her more manic, what do you think trance down will do for Kris?
I have 2 explanations for this

>A:
>toby didn't finish the stats of the item and they will change in ch6
>B:
>arrow down means it's a debuff, so it can be a debuff just for kris, but a benefit for us
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Kris masters a new move in the Dark World - Kris pussy attack
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>>575213194
The other chapters had *substantial* (translation: not random Japanese lyrics or a scene added in a patch) schizokino to balance out the gay cartoon bullshit, but Chapter 5 didn't have any outside of the weird route which ends in 12 minutes and skips the Dark World. All quirk and no play makes Toby a dull boy.
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>>575218401
our humble prince
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>>575217902
You know what's annoying?

Trans Ralsei or nonbinary Kris are totally legitimate takes. I can totally see it as being a story you could tell with these characters because Deltarune is a coming of age story and self-discovery tends to be a theme of stories like that.

What I HATE is that it's a bannble offense or something you get dogpiled for to suggest Kris could also be a boy and maybe teenage boys go through self-doubt and stuff too.

Ralsei being trans is fine. I don't even know what he is. Some people suggest he's a tree, and trees can be bisexual or gendered. Who knows? Not me. I'm just thankful the autistic transwomen in charge of the wiki and reddit didn't rule that we have to treat Ralsei as being a girl now, because it means that we still have the option to say the character genders might not be that important and there might be other stories.
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when can i play sword route?
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>>575218089
Dude. Are you for real? Like 99.9% of Dess posts here are /ss/. The straggot hypocrisy is genuinely insane. Just let people jerk off
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>>575218089
I hate to break to to you but 99% of lolipedos are oldfag chuds
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>>575217672
It's a girl with cat ears who has Maddie's vocal quirk of triplicating words and Shop 3 begins the exact same as Circus and Dialtone.
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>>575218295
you talk like this stuff doesn't come with a ton of consequences and drawbacks. just look at clav and other looksmaxers. they can change the outside all they want, but the actual self remains shitty and is actively worsened by their efforts
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game that started with a survey will end with how all the other surveys end
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>>575218072
You'll keep coping to the end
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frankly i'm not sure i'll be able to take canon dess seriously after what the fanbase has done with her
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>>575218323
Either he and the knight are trying to cause the roaring to end the simulation or the sacrifice theory is right and Kris is being threatened with the loss of their friends and family to work for gaster and the knight so that someone close to Kris isnt sacrificed again (dess)
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>>575217831
toby is an evil transmed.
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>>575218323
yeah you know I think we will eventually team up with the knight in the end- DAMN KRIS IS HITTING THAT SHIT GO KRIS
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>>575217672
I didn't think Mew Mew was the shopkeeper even after the boss. People had to point it out to me after the fact.
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>>575218571
>>575218560
in truth lolisho is just a fetish and you can find plenty of lolisho likers in every single pool of people ever, whether that be chuds, or wokies, or fujos, or women on booktok, it's such a common thing to be into and the only thing that varies is severity. some just stop at calling their boyfriend daddy. others want to fap to comic lo
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>>575218653
mettaton calls mad mew mew a passoid behind her back
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>>575218581
The vocal quirk doesn't stand out that much. I think it's most notable when she's saying "die die die", but during the bossfight I read it as her being a dipshit who was losing control of her emotions rather than as a verbal tic.
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>>575218498
>>toby didn't finish the stats of the item and they will change in ch6
I would agree with this if it was simply a "dummied out" secret on the backend and not something anyone could see whenever and implemented on the front end
>>arrow down means it's a debuff, so it can be a debuff just for kris, but a benefit for us
something going "down" isn't necessarily a debuff. Even then I don't see how "Trance Down," as in "lowering a state of altered consciousness," could be good for us and bad for Kris
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so the wonderful chapter five era people were looking forwards to is the great eradication of drawfags and great immigration of trans argument posters got it
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post SCARY deltarunes
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Staying up too late snuggled against Asgore's soft side discussing what kind of floral arrangements and events we could plan to get people in the door at Flower King, when my gaze happens to dance past his digital alarm clock with the discovery of just how long we've put off sleep as I desperately flip over to hug him tight and lament how tired we're likely to be upon waking in just a few hours (he slowly turned his head down to meet my stare with those telltale half-lidded eyes and slight smile that forced me to put my foot down in strict forbiddance, which crumpled instantaneously when he simply leaned down and whispered "you sure...?" in that deep bassy tone he is my weakness). Being graced with Asgore's blessing (even despite him not really getting the fascination) to gently poke at his paw pads and dial the world's longest phone number after I finish up dutifully filing his claws, but as my prodding reaches maximum frequency I mistakenly slip between the pads to immerse within the tuft of fluff between them all as his entire leg jolts hard from the sudden intense ticklishness before he kindly requests I try to be more careful with my prodding (I felt immense guilt for tearing him from his relaxed state and vowed to massage his calf muscles for a while instead, but we met in the middle of forgiveness to ensure an absence of hard feelings with a loving exchange of smooches). Winding down after a stressful day by gathering handfuls of Asgore's golden mane in the brilliant state of divine softness just following a shower to gently rub on my cheeks, until eventually I drift back into reality and recognize some slight selfishness on my part as I ask in a muffled voice through his hair if there's anything I can do to help him de-stress (he requested his usual of lying in bed flat on his stomach about two feet lower than me at a diagonal to rest his chin flat atop my chest so I could gently pet him for a while, which is admittedly among my favorite activities as well)
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>>575218520
our beautiful sissy wife
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I got a strap-on in case I get a Tenna cosplayer in my hotel room
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>>575218869
seeing this be the op picture a day or two ago made me shit
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Anons not understanding why people when they are happy and when they are upset behave slightly differently
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>>575218628
when Dess shows up and “her theme” starts playing and we get her sad back story but all I can think about during it is groomer Dess theory
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uuu, I almost talked about the game
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>>575218581
also, the mystery key is written in pink and is exactly the same as what unlocked mettaton's backstory and they're cousins

>>575218847
we had a few decent threads when the dialogue was patched in. toby needs to vomit up some lore for the good of us all
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if it was mettaton ghost possessing some anime boy doll people would call it kino
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>>575218875
This but it's Ralsei
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>>575218847
It's a chapter of gay, uninspiring flowers that people didn't like all that much and also the shipping got thrown back in everyone's faces.

It's a rough one to engage with creatively so you get left with only the controversial horseshit.
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>>575218728
how
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Jarona!
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>>575218875
who the fuck has problems opening their bottles.
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>>575218870
Wrote Flowery, stroking his chin with scholarly poise
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>>575218310
When Omega Flowey loads a state, Frisk sometimes keeps their health as is.
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>>575219036
someone draw this please please please
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>>575218847
sorry, we only got wishicoulddrawfags
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>>575219002
if tenna counts as an anime boy, you're getting that in chapter 6
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>>575219078
It doesn't look anything like her
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I want to throw a steak at susie and see her death roll it
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>>575219036
you fucking get it...
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>>575213784
Dess Sprite
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>>575218946
people are just too embarrassed to admit they weren't paying attention while playing the game. if you pay attention, it's obvious. if you didn't, of course you'd be confused. but that's not Toby's fault it's yours
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>>575218549
>He don't bite
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>>575218946
The overwhelming majority of complaints about Deltarune (not just this chapter but especially this chapter) come from people with debilitating autism/lack of socialization who are completely unable to grasp social cues and emotional behavior
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>>575219176
actual artists being replaced by a faggot whining about not being able to draw is a pretty concise representation of what happened to this general
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theory: pink isn't a transgender metaphor.
it's about personality disorders.
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i wish i could draw..
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>>575218728
They're both retards that's why they're great.

>>575219002
>>575219206
Beat me to it, Tenna's so gonna become Box Mettaton's body.
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>>575219206
I don’t want to lose Tenna because of another boring trans allegory and I hate Mettaton.
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Do you think Toriel spanked Kris when they were little?
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>>575219127
Nobody, but women pretend they do because they know their boyfriends/husbands get a self-esteem boost from feeling useful by helping them

More seriously, my uncle sealed bottles ridiculously tight and it was almost impossible for anyone else to open them
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>>575219359
let's see your art then
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>>575219213
>a person becomes a different person if they wear their hair down and put on a different outfit
REALLY not beating the autism allegations today
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>>575218921
shouldn't you marry them before doing that?
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>>575218760
lel that's actually such typical transmasc behavior despite them having a much easier time transitioning
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>>575219078
>>575219213
Do people not get that Mew Mew is a magical girl who would look like a normal schoolgirl before she transforms into her battle outfit
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>>575218728
It’s probably a matter of going so long between playing undertale and deltarune. When I replayed ut recently to replay dt I picked up on a lot more continuity that seems random if you’ve forgotten over the years (and not looking at content outside the game like newsletters and console exclusive content which I think Toby writes for)
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>>575218826
>something going "down" isn't necessarily a debuff. Even then I don't see how "Trance Down," as in "lowering a state of altered consciousness," could be good for us and bad for Kris
usually when the item makes a stat explicitly up or down, it has either "UP" or "DOWN" postfix (e.g. TP DOWN), which makes me further think it's just unfinished, or it's made ambiguous on purpose.
It just wouldn't make sense to me that an item that removes someone's agency combined with pure crystal would suddenly give Kris full agency. What could Kris even do with his full agency? He can pull out the soul and do whatever he wants without our control anyway.
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>>575219078
There's no bells. Puffy shoulders are gone. No floofy skirt.

The boss fight makes you associate Mew Mew with tantrums and having special needs, but the shopkeep is serene and calm. The "triplicate speech" is easier to spot once you know you're looking for it, but it's not that strong of a tell by itself.

This is a genuine fuckup by the team. Say it's obvious all you want, but it wasn't really.
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>>575219335
I don't think you have theory of mind to understand that some people are just less perceptive than you
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>>575219335
cute FRIEND

>>575219072
i think it also is a natural part of the story reaching the part where it has to be toby's you can't imagine your own way it would go now. which has the muh missed potential fags and also people burned by everything else from 2020's having a dogshit ending vomiting their anxieties forth.
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>>575219585
>What could Kris even do with his full agency?
I would imagine all the stuff they were doing before the player got involved/whatever started happening with their soul that made them rip it out happened
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>>575218543
>What I HATE is that it's a bannble offense or something you get dogpiled for to suggest Kris could also be a boy and maybe teenage boys go through self-doubt and stuff too.
Where did you steal this post from?
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>>575219545
People just don't want to engage with the character at even the most basic level and there's not even that much to engage with.
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The Twisted Sword is for The Knight.
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>>575219127
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many people love their boy ralsei!!
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i could dropkick ralsei
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>>575216663
>Then Mew Mew just hands over the crystal
Jevil and gerson already did this though
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>>575219651
CUUUUUUUUUUUUTE
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>>575219754
>People just don't want to engage with a character that doesn't spoonfeed you everything immediately
ftfy
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>>575219545
A magical WHAT? Didn’t see any of those in Gears or Halo Theft Auto 5. Toby should stop referencing things that aren’t first-person shooters.
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>>575219651
Oh no, the disappointment has nothing to do with people having the wrong ideas about the ending.

It's because Susie and Noelle hook up but all they do is talk about their relationship like always. It's BORING. And it killed the ships.

And Asgore? Does nothing. Vagueposts. The Horrible Day. Then he gets over dark worlds and doesn't want to do them anymore. It's BORING, and now we can't wonder about his motives because he's over it.

It's boring, boring, boring. The chapter takes but does not give.
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>>575219703
so you are saying that this item will be completely useless and it will just turn into a cutscene for the rest of the game, since kris has full control now?
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This is your hero lol
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>>575217498
It's the first thing that made me think that abort2 might actually go somewhere unique because it suddenly snaps back to the normal route and starts referencing events that didn't happen which I always figured meant it was just an afterthought by Toby, but abort5 calls attention to its own snapback so it must be intentional. Sorry for doubting the dog.
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>>575219502
It’s not necessary
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>>575219592
Can you ask yourself why you believe she was acting the way she was during the fight based on what she said during it and right after, and relate that to how she behaved in the shop
I don’t mean to be condescending but try to put these pieces together
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>>575219893
what if he trapped you in a spherical field and crushed it into an infinite point?
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>>575219839
"I will bless those who bless Ralsei and curse those who curse Ralsei" - God, book of Genesis
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>>575220030
* You tell Flowery you want to make sweet love to him.
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peel yo krises
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>>575219774
>it's the knight who's in a trance
>the twisted sword sets them free
i could see it
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>>575220030
>flower at 999
>powerful macho VN superhero
>flower at real stats
>just a faggot and useless

damn.
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>>575219592
>This is a genuine fuckup by the team.
Thank you for your post
I will now assume going forward that every obstinate retard like you complaining about Chapter 5 was too stupid to read or not paying attention to the point that they might as well have not even played it, because that's the only way you could reach this conclusion.
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>>575219458
make your peace with it now anon.
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>>575219750
If you insinuate Kris could be male or female you get banned from the reddit or your ip would be blocked from the wiki, obviously. Most public content that doesn't adhere to the gender rules get dogpiled. You can scroll through YouTube comments and if someone says "he" in reference to Kris they get twenty replies correcting them and telling them it can't be that story.
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>>575219592
>The boss fight makes you associate Mew Mew with tantrums and having special needs, but the shopkeep is serene and calm.
Has it ever occured to you that people can have more than one state of mind. Plus she does have little tantrums during the shopkeeper dialogue too, and some moreMaddie-isms. On top of the repetition.

>"...specially you Purpleface, how do you even hear?"
>"... not like you, long ears. Those seem like a fire hazard."
>"I could always use a knife."
>"L... like I would want that! "
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>>575220159
many gods are saying this!!
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>>575220030
Someone give me a refresher. Is a single earring on the left ear indicative of faggotry or was it the right?
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>>575220365
>when you say things that are objectively wrong about the game fans will correct you
yes... i fail to see the issue
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>>575219893
I could suckdick Ralsei
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>>575217829
I HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT TELEPORT WITH BREAD FOR THREE DAYS
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>>575220125
Nta but if the shopkeeper is a different character they could be sad for any reason
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>>575220030
my fuarking hero!
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>>575220493
i could sucuk ralsei
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>>575220506
The shopkeeper is the complete opposite of being sad
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>no reply
curious
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>>575220378
>>575220217
>>575220125
So be honest with me. I'm going to hazard the guess that you "I read the text ergo I comprehend what I am meant to know and it was fine" fellas are legitimately autistic, am I right? Like not as an insult or anything, I mean you've been actually diagnosed, and you are fine with chapter 5 because you have data in mind that makes it fine.
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>>575220570
The shop felt sad to me
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>>575220360
Why did Toby specifically bring attention to the juice combinations having different names?
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>>575220506
The shopkeeper (Pink) is awestruck by the beauty of the world and reveling her newfound physicality. She’s not sad.
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i just beat my mom up
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kill 7 billion lightners
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what are we even talking about?
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>>575220814
Kris....
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>>575220012
Unironcally yes I feel like that is a real possibility. More likely than "good ending secret third route," less likely than "red herring to confirm existence of the thorn ring on a normal route and make a player wonder where it is"
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>>575220463
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
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KILL ALLLLLLLL FUCKING BUGS
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>>575220798
I thought she was sad.
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>>575220814
Jax...
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>>575219432
what if you practiced? put a little shell into it?
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>>575220762
not sure, but there was actually a theory that the fifth shadowboss would be a lightner based on the juice percentages, which turned out to be true. although at that time it was like throwing everything at a wall theory wise.
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>>575220873
we're wishing we could draw
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>>575220715
It’s sad in the way that she’s miserable in every other part of her life but found solace in the world she suddenly found herself in. It mixes in with the absentminded euphoria she has in it
>>575220714
I honestly don’t know what you mean I just wanted you to think about why a character would behave the way they do when you’re giving info in a non sequential manner. She doesn’t even have that many lines it isn’t a hard thing to think about
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>>575220483
The issue is more that I think autistic transgirls have formed a consensus and then police information networks such that it's become "canon" even though it's never directly addressed? And it's never been stated by Toby or any other staff as being the only legal way to perceive the character?

I understand the gender is referred to with neutral pronouns but I don't think that means only transgirls were intended to imprint on or make assumptions about Kris.
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>>575220365
>if you engage with time wasting bullshit conversations anywhere but the website built on time wasting bullshit conversations you get BANNED
Truly it is a mystery
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>>575220714
It is entirely obvious that the shopkeeper is Pink. After you fight Orange joins her in the shop and she addresses her in the same way.
You are complaining about something that does not make sense unless you were not paying attention or simply didn't play the game. You are ignorant and uninformed and not worth talking to.
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>>575220952
Pink genuinely has some of the most beautiful dialogue in the game.
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>>575219953
>a character that doesn't spoonfeed you everything immediately
That's pretty ironic considering what made the freedom scrimblos popular is the blanks you got to fill in with your mind. I still think the main gripes these people have with this character is that she's not mysterious at all and that the end of her tale is 100% optimistic.

>>575220952
>>575220715
The underlying sense of sadness is because her happiness in this dark world is temporary and she eventually has to go back to being a miserable ghost that can't even hold a prop hammer.
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>>575220483
kris presents as a male and behaves like one, it makes sense why people refer as to Kris as he/him. I would accept the idea that Kris is transfem more than whatever the fuck non-binary is
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i want to write about Asgore and Undyne
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>>575220030
>Bullshit darkner indulgence AU
Prince of the Dark: Flowery (2nd in command to Asgore in the dark world means he's a prince, surely)
Monster: Gerson
Human: (you)-Vessel

I want a party I can actually vibe with instead of...A coward who only looks at me with fear, a faggot who'd rather inhale multiple cyanide pills than be honest about anything and anyone, and a DDD (dorkable dino dunce) who has the "le escapism bad" sticker so stuck to her ass, it could be a Jontron clip about flex-tape.
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Mad Mew Mew's boss theme from Undertale sounds like bad pirate music. I'm glad Dummy! and Cutie Mew Mew Magic are so good because that one sucks bad.
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>>575220365
Must be a you thing
Then again I dont browse reddit since it unironically has more mentally ill people than our loli flower worshipping forum
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susie presents as a male and behaves like one, it makes sense why people refer as to Susie as he/him. I would accept the idea that Susie is transfem more than whatever the fuck tomboy is
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>>575221297
It’s cuter when you realize it repeats every rhythm 3 times to mimic her speech pattern. The entire song tries to mimic how she speaks
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>>575220814
>>575220957
isn’t she lovely
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>>575220949
i have pretty strong insectophobia. i used to kill any and every bug i saw for my own comfort, but my ex changed that. she has an incredible respect for and love of all forms of life. i remember one time i was freaking out because a mosquito hawk got in our house. it's a totally harmless insect, but i was too scared to think rationally. she ended up killing it for me at my insistence, but then she broke down into tears and it made me feel awful. after that, i started pushing past my own fear and gently capturing them and releasing them outside. even though she's no longer around, i still do that.
sorry for yapping and thank you for reading my blogpost (watching my dream)
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That’s right, go outside.
It’s beautiful.

Treasure this world, won’t you?
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where is black sans
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>>575220798
>>575220952
Pink isn't exactly sad but the shop definitely has a melancholy atmosphere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsYUaus3RGI
It's a point against the people who accuse Chapter 5 of being nothing but fun bullshit until the end, not having that uncomfortable roughness around the edges or under the surface
The Dark World is as beautiful and transient as the sunset. It won't last long, so watch it while you can. Enjoy it while you still can.
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>>575221191
>can't even hold a prop hammer.
They have to be able to hold physical objects, they do too many things that rely on it, in both universes.
Might be more of a strain for them though
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>>575221393
>>575221297
Oh nvm I was talking about dummy! Yea the base mew mew song is lamer muffet
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>>575214798
Human pussy
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Why the fuck did Carol allow Rudy to even climb ladders? I can get behind everyone else allowing Rudy to what he wants cuz they might not know how sick he is but she does! and she allows it!!
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even chapters are better than odd chapters
next chapter will be good, 7th chapter will be bad
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>>575221091
imagine reading that and thinking "nah there's absolutely nothing to see here pink just wants to be a waifu"
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>>575221326
Noelle and Susie are about to have sex for the first time. Noelle pulls down Susie's pants and screams in suprise "You are a girl?!? I always thought you were a boy!"
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Be honest.
Do you think this is a "Last Thursday" situation with fake memories and Asriel is dead?
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>>575221550
Yes, there is definitely a tinge of melancholy to it. But it’s not SAD, you know? She’s appreciating, taking joy in something beautiful, even sensing that its beauty is fleeting. Like the beauty of Deltarune itself, as we leave the good times behind.
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>>575221478
it's nice how the people closest to us push us to improve just so we could see them happy isn't it? unfortunately I haven't had that character growth yet so I will continue my bug crusade but it was a touching dream
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>>575221550
it's nice we got some more fun times before Rudy Fucking Dies chapter


>>575221581
he's gonna die anyway, he might as well have some autonomy before he goes
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>kris presents as a male
Its really funny when dumb chuds try to adopt gender-speak and try to convince you they're not just fucking ignorant
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>>575221478
>even though she's no longer around
OMG i'm so sorry..... she was like, so young....and cheesy
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>>575221772
haha what did asriel eat to become so big haha
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>"last fun adventure"
>next adventure be like
>https://youtu.be/nP9mB1sVJz4
>but also suselle
H"E"LL
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The secret boss had to be Maddiie so we have a third fight to match her speech quirk.
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>>575221758
you should leave spiders around as they kill other bugs
moths though, moths can get fucked
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>>575221586
>even chapters are better than odd chapters
it's like star trek movies
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>>575221573
Look how fucking flat she is
Goddamn that's hot
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* (It's a regular sink.)
* (It's a clone of the other sink.)
* (Perhaps there was originally one tall sink that was cut in half to create both of them.)
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>>575221581
She doesn’t have him on a leash, he’s a grown ass man
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>>575221927
based and palekingpilled
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>>575221571
>in both universes
Undertale ghosts are less underpowered because they can possess objects at least, but even then, they need special ghost items to interact with or else they're just intangible. Might be the same case in DR, and also, they lose the ability to move objects at all which completely clips Mettaton and Maddy's wings.

>>575221297
I love "Dummy!" a lot but "Pink" and CMMM are the first time this character has had her own leitmotif. Not borrowed from Blooky, not borrowed from Muffet, just her own. The Bridge to Cutie Magic is also awesome and I love the way the freedom motif is used, and the tonal shift in lyrics when the ghost is singing.
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>>575221758
it's very nice. we reconnected recently after things ended badly between us. she apparently really missed me, which is unexpected since i don't think i was the best partner for her. i worry that it's kind of a stockholm situation, so i'm trying to urge her to not focus on me so strongly and live her own life.
>>575221851
>so young....and cheesy
more accurate than you think. i'm a few years older than her, and when we were together she treated me like i was her fucking mom (even though she has an excellent relationship with her actual mother)
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>>575221581
He wanted to do it
I kind of like the idea of him doing it on his own while she's too distracted with her bullshit in the Shelter to keep an eye on him
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I dunno, I just don't think you should expect people to pick up on every little detail when they're vague and purposefully misleading. Like you're obviously not supposed to catch that the Shopkeeper is Mew Mew the first time you meet them and then there's no reason to talk to the shopkeeper, go back to the shop or think about them again for the rest of the chapter
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>>575219078
Also the outside of her store looks like this and the Mew Mew figure is outside of Asgore's shop during the festival with the mad ghost seething about it in her house and you would have already seen at least a couple of the pink coin bells that have cat ears by this point which you have to use to buy the Mystery Key that's a reference to Mettaton...
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>>575222048
Stop that toby would never hide foreshadowing in joke flavor text
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>>575221581
>* I am grateful for your wife's...

>* Carol's.

>* Your wife's... financial support to him.
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> Susie, I am forever sorry I worked with the Knight. Please forgive me...
> *LE EBIC BACON TIME
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>>575221492
>Treasure this world won'tyou?
>Thanks for watching our dream.

Only times this game has managed to get me so far.
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>>575221925
If you pick the right option Kris pretends to drown so Ralsei pulls them out of the water and tries to do CPR but Kris grabs him and they make out sloppy style right there while Susie watches from the bushes
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>>575222048
that sink thing is a reference to the theory that sans and papyrus are gaster cut in half which was popular for a while
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>>575212941
I can't draw to save my own life
Yet i do it anyway
Anatomy is frustrating. Retrying the same lines over and over again trying to get the shape right is borderline suicide inducing. Especially if there's no reference for the exact thing i want.
Art is not fun. It's a tedious grind to get everything looking semi-passable.
Yet i still draw. Not for myself, but for others, because they sometimes enjoy it.
Stop being selfish and draw already, fagit. Quit bitchin', hop on the whiteboard and draw some bullshit.
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>>575222184
The game rewards thoughtful engagement. If you just want to power through and complete the main quest that’s fine, but don’t call it a problem when you don’t understand everything. I mean, the ShadowCrystals are optional content. If you're doing those I think it should be expected that you’re backtracking and looking for changes and new interactions.
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>>575221326
unlike kris, we actually know what she is. you don't have to pretend to aggressively misunderstand what i said. there is an obvious room left for interpretation for kris.
these arguments are used for transfem ralsei btw
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>>575220704
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>>575221925
Why didn't we get to say this
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>>575222459
the ending of chapter 5 genuinely brought me to tears, it is also for me the only time deltarune has done that
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>>575222429
fascinating how people are misinterpreting this scene
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>575221791
you're a terrible fisherman
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>>575221573
post the full comic.
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>>575222184
If you missed it that's fine, just don't be an argumentative dickhead and say "the game is wrong" when people tell you that the hints were there
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>>575220525
I could suus Ralsei
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I just finished chapter 5, where the fuck is the lore?
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>>575222741
i'd like to hear your interpretation of it! i'm genuinely curious, not trying to be prickly, i just wonder what other people think of it. it might change my view.
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>>575222761
>>575222593
But I never did any of that?
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>>575222184
>purposefully misleading
I don't think it's that anon, it is out of character but it's also the sign of character development. The point is all of her anger and mistrust comes from hating herself and her life and she can use definitely use other emotions, and being with the Flowers/her body/the player teaches her that. A being of pure anger can't be healthy, even in UT, too much anger transforms her into Glad Dummy.
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>>575222459
Chapter 5 was a HUGE tearjerker for me. It really felt like a “final episode” to me. An episode of parting with something you love. Like the final episode of GaoGaiGar, maybe, when Mamoru is flying away. That’s what it reminds me of emotionally.
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>>575222690
>the ending of chapter 5 genuinely brought me to tears, it is also for me the only time deltarune has done that
me too, there's just something about susie's fragile happiness at the end of chapter 5 that upset me because i know it's going to be shattered very soon. someone yesterday mentioned feeling paternal for susie and that scene definitely made me feel that, i just want to look after her and give her a real meal and bed.
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>>575222837
Idiot
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The Twisted Sword's Trance Down and the Thorn Ring's ○ Trance (not Trance Up) are both offensive abilities rather than effects applied to the person equipping them. The Thorn Ring's ability is why Berdly gets knocked into a coma when dark world magic shouldn't be able to do that.
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>>575222459
>* Ory, I'll stay with you until the end, OK?

>Pink isn't there when it's time to say goodbye to the flowers
There are genuine fumbles to complain about with how this chapter handled some things so I don't know why people keep fixating on stupid bullshit
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>>575222969
Not as idiotic as Dessknight.
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(he's thinking about kissing his boyfriend)
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>>575222980
>gets knocked into a coma when dark world magic shouldn't be able to do that
So did you miss the part where the cable explosion on the normal route still damages his arm and causes it to "have a lowered temperature" and leave it effectively broken?
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>>575222980
It is Trance (not Trance Down) for twisted sword too, just with a down arrow
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>>575222837
Secret shopkeeper dialogue after getting attacked by Image friend
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>>575222885
Then we're not talking about you.
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Asriel's girlfriend fell into the fucking shadow realm that makes you only memories, and he just fucking shrugged his shoulders and went to go get a degree in finance.
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>>575222969
>dess shotgunning darkness fumes as she kisses you
NEED
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i felt like this when flowery died
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>>575222753
It's not a comic but there's a sequel image.
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>>575223313
flat chested chara is so hot
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>>575223036
They sat together in the shop until it was time for the final battle. Pink didn’t belong in that last Dreamwatchers scene at all.
>also, I am here, mew!
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>>575223246
A patch adding a few lines of dialogue isn't really enough to remediate the fact that everything is going to have to be crammed into the 2 remaining chapters.
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>>575223269
What's he supposed to do? Be miserable and never make any progress for the rest of his life?
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>>575222860
I keep seeing people say it means Rudy doesn't want Carol to be referred to as his wife, rather than seeing it as Toriel deliberately avoiding saying her name because she's pissed at her. "Your wife" isn't the way you refer to someone who's been your friend since college. Toriel is all for moving on from marriages that aren't working out, so it also doesn't make sense that she'd push for Rudy to refer to Carol as his wife if there were some marital issues making him avoid saying it.
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>>575222690
I didn't cry at the end but I was genuinely choked up during the flowers' goodbyes. [Spoiler]the new home scene in Undertale gets me every time, the monsters recounting Chara's death is so touching to me.[/spoiler]
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I love anthros and I love furry porn
I love maws and digitigrade paws
I love fluffy tummies and fluffy tails
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>>575222916
>>575222940
It might be perceived as trite, and they were happy in the end, but there's something soul crushing to seeing the flower darkners say goodbye to their sentience. I find it so sad and cruel and sort of terrifying in an existential way. Watching Susie's delusion and denial grow after the prophecy fucked her up was also really uncomfortable.

>GaoGaiGar
GaoGaiGar Final's "adults sacrificing themselves for the younger generation" ending is something that's in a bunch of japanese stories but it always manages to fuck me up too. God damn.
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>>575223416
basically all of undertales lore drops are in like the last hour of the game lol
and without the whole fun adventure part we got like 8 hours of ts
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>>575223420
Yes.
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>>575219151
>>575219036
>>575213784
here, anon :)
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>>575222429
I think this is meant to be more 'Toriel and Carol' have some beef between them and less 'Rudy doesn't acknowledge Carol as his wife'. Since Toriel still calls Carol "Your wife" after Rudy clarifies, it's meant to show she can't even say her name cuz of the beef. Unless Toriel is a big RudyxCarol shipper or something??
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(he's thinking gay thoughts)
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So is the lake another entrance into the depths?
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>>575223481
i cheered for flowery out loud
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>>575223657
PLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAP
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>>575222660
Because we already know what the answer to it so why even ask
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Seth!
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>all the larpers in this general are also troons
nooticing
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Remember when Gaster was a pirate? Good times
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>>575223657
sex
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>>575223469
>>575223667
hmmm... i see what you mean. i somehow didn't think of it that way! this interpretation might make more sense, especially if we consider the following line where toriel makes allusion to carol's support of something asgore is doing that toriel doesn't like. thanks for sharing :)
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>>575223209
The down arrows and up arrows are used on other equipment abilities for DOWN and UP (based on their item descriptions), but the Thorn Ring's Trance is a circle and not any kind of arrow
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>>575223036
>>575223392
Yeah that wasn't Pink's fight. She sat with Ory until it was time for the flowers to fight for their world, which she already had. Watching that sunset she loved so much. Her place is in the Light World, hopefully opening up to Asgore and others. The problem with Pink's execution would have been solved with a couple more cafe breaks, or perhaps it will depending on how they handle her reaction to Asgore's kidnapping. Toby has the potential to really drop the ball with this.

>>575223481
>the new home scene in Undertale gets me every time
Yeah that is definitely the big Undertale one. "Undertale" (the song) definitely does not hurt. That is a malicious sequence of sounds engineered to dry my tear ducts every time I hear it.
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>>575223657
>oh nooooo i cant pick up the milk nooooooo
do women/goats really?????
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>>575223209
maybe trance down implies you're breaking the dark world illusion for yourself and will be able to cutscene merchant stuff like the knight does?
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>>575223937
SETH MY BELOVED MY DARLING MY LITTLE CHUD NERD LOSER!!!!!!!
once again tricky tony crafts a character perfectly primed for dominating my heart and mind. first it was alphys, now it's seth. he can't keep getting away with it!!!
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Ralsei dialogue choices be like
>"You're my good buddy, Ralsei! We should hang out more! Your robes look really nice today!"
>*Rape Ralsei
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>>575224026
joyous ass open minded ass anon aww
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>>575223672
About a non binary human that doesn't have romantic thoughts about Ralsei.
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Why are there so many crowns in Susie's room?
What does Susie have to do with crowns?
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goober
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>>575224162
>he thinks that pic was of a woman
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Where do Undertale and Deltarune fit on the Final Fantasy tier list
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>>575223657
wonderful!
>>575224162
one time i brought home groceries, but ended up having to park my car some distance away from my house. only about a quarter mile, but after even such a short distance, carrying six bags of groceries to make for one trip wore my arms out for hours. i need to do some strength training.
>>575224238
i'm such a happymaxxing joypilled mirthcel
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>>575222429
If DR fans can't handle this. I shouldn't be surprised they think nobody has been to the other side of the lake
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>>575224320
She's the Dark Prince
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>hugs monitor
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okay, since we're done talking about transei and mew mew kys-sy troonie, i think i'll just go buy groceries, do some housework and maybe train or play piano.

see you in 2 or so hours.
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>>575221047
men are greedy retards who knew
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The twisted sword won't anything that big I think, cuz Toby said chapter 6 would be easier to develop and we know that it's because there's no big weird route stuff there. But if there's suddenly another route open with the twisted sword, wouldn't the work be the same?
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>>575224202
I think anon really likes cringe loser nerds...
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>>575224320
She's based on Bowser, the koopa king
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>>575223657
BASED BASED BASED
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>>575224320
she's the king to noelle's queen
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>>575213784
This image is dedicated to every anon who says they can't draw.

Kris stabbing Berdly while he is gaming
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>>575224690
Who's Marty?
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Hey is this a good thread yet or is it a gay retarded thread
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Hopes for the darkies of the next chapter?
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>>575224162
I'm s woman and I can lift milk but Ralsei is a sissy, so he struggles
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>>575224715
So Noelle will divorce her and fuck Spamton?
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>>575224186
Kris can probably already do that since they have their real normal knife on then at all times and just refuse to use it
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>>575224790
if you could lift milk, then your tits would be bigger.
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>>575224762
If the Dancing Robot Santas don't become giant mecha that you have to defeat with the Thrash Machine Robo I will be mildly upset
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>>575223579
Undertale is a self-contained singular release, deltarune is considerably longer and has been ongoing for nearly a decade now.
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>>575224762
the correct term is Photon Negative American
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>>575224320
>Chapter 1: Susie says Quiet People piss her off | KING says quiet people piss him off
>Chapter 5: Noelle says to vote her for Queen, implying to vote Susie as KING

King and Susie have some parallels to each other. When Susie gets betrayed by kris in chapter 6, that'll be another parallel to KING
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>>575224586
>The sound of two pelvises clapping together reverberate throughout the underground
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>>575224605
I'd assume it's easier to develop because there's no big fun adventure, the weird route in ch2 was probably not the hardest thing to make in that chapter
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>>575224762
>the dessner appears
>rants about how shes tired of being like dess
>immediately goes for the sloppy make out on ralsei
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>>575224586
Put some clothes on
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>>575224587
can you pick up some pepper jack, i've got a real hankerin' for it
>>575224608
i do! they're my weakness! which means, of course, that i tend to treat the posters here with a lot more gentle kindness and understanding than perhaps they are used to, maybe even more than they think they are due. i have a complex
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>>575224885
Shut up moid
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>>575224762
Noelle seeing a darkner that looks like Dess would just kill her
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>>575224320
>Yes! With my Control Crowne...
>I mayst control ANY disc-shaped Lifeforme!
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>>575225007
you type like a fat groomer
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>>575224605
>and we know that it's because there's no big weird route stuff there
When did Toby say this
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>>575224790
>>575224885
>>575225037
i'm sorry anon i think you got fucking owned, have a laugh about it (i know i will)
>>575225108
it's called "autism swag"
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>>575223657
goat moé... goat erotic
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>>575224605
The weird route is just a bunch of cutscenes and one recycled boss, it doesn't meaningfully add to dev time. Chapter 6 is probably full of recycled assets like the final areas of a lot of JRPGs. Plus no new recruits since the flower building will take the last slot in Castle Town.
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>>575225108
He actually types like Toby Fox
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>>575225116
Chapter 5 weird route endings shows that the weird route stuff continues on from Chapter 7
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>>575225269
why did he do this?
it activates the instincts
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>>575224826
i mean the black shard would also do damage irl since you keep it in your inv and it's probably quite sharp
has kris ever been able to damage things in the light world?
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>>575223552
This Chapter didn’t have any literal mechanics at all, but I feel it is spiritually very /m/ and is likely to resonate emotionally with a fan of robot media.
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I would fucking cumin if a dessner tongue fucked ralsei
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>>575225269
he makes me so happy desu
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>>575225429
bro
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>>575224320
>>575225072
the Circular Doe...
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>>575224128
Her place is not in the Light World, anon. In the Light World she can't move. She will never go back to being the ghost, anymore than Mettaton did in Undertale
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I feel like replaying a Deltarune chapter to get things you missed goes against the spirit of the game but I'll do it anyway.
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i'm going to buy something i need but don't want i'm spamtonmaxxing!
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>>575225072
will the control crowne be used to defeat the roaring knight???
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Remember that time Ralsei tortured a mouse with his feet and demanded the mouse acknowledge him as cute?
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>>575225315
do i really? maybe that's a result of speaking english less and less lately (even though it's my native language) and communicating with people in other languages, which is definitely toby fox's reality right now living in japan
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>>575225347
Are you fucking literate? Not when did Toby say "no chapter 6b" when did Toby say "Chapter 6 will be easier *BECAUSE* <---(important word) no 6b."
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>>575225072
there was a theory that asgore was going to get controlled with this for a while, back when we thought he would be a boss
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>>575225564
Roulx holding off the knight with shitty puzzles at the Castle Town defense setpiece would go hard
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>>575225072
>the angel appears as a disc of light
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfC8OU2YtNo
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>>575224128
>"Undertale" (the song) definitely does not hurt.
It really ties together the emotional climax for me. I think the Asriel fight also kills the emotional aspects too
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>>575225384
We haven't fought any Lightners since we got the black shard, but the church got physically fucked up from the Titan fight so I guess that must have inflicted some real damage?
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>>575225597
no you type like a groomer
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Why are sans fuckers still making sans fights. Is it autism
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>>575225706
>the knight goes apeshit and starts slashing at the puzzle pieces because it hates boring things
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>>575225585
>Ralsei will never squeeze your dick between his paw pads and deny your orgasm until you convince him you think he's the cutest prince in the world
fuuuuuck
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>>575225504
It's where she's from, and it's where she'll be back eventually, form doesn't matter. She tells Ory she'll make sure Asgore takes good care of them all. For as much as I fear Tony is going to relegate Pink to nothing Castle Town funnies, something is going to change about her relationship with the Light World, just like Mettaton seems happier when you give him Tenna.
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>>575225839
please explain!
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>>575225519
Undertale is the it's evil to leave the game open game, Deltarune is the amoral scientific experiment game and that means poking around and going "Fascinating"
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>>575225504
That's assuming fusion works the same way as Undertale
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>>575225875
i thought the arg confirmed castle town is about to be gigafucked
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>be kris
>look at ralsei
>he does something cute to please you
>just because you looked at him
hngnggnnhmphnghn
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>>575225519
>NOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO NEVER TOUCH IT AGAIN WHILE YOU WAIT A YEAR FOR ANOTHER CHAPTER
fuck off toby
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>>575225384
If Kris shoved on of the pencils in a lightners eye towards there brain it would kill somebody.
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you the player are a bad person for playing Deltarune
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>>575226007
how can you NOT make out with him
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>>575226136
you can make without.
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>>575226089
i didnt fucking kill that bitch
she was dead and in the ground when i showed up
not even lying the disheveled kid did it
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>>575225830
but a little piece of glass isnt doing allat so it was definitely the titan or knight, right?
>>575226064
they cutscene one shot susie and she's completely unharmed
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>>575225882
anons are schizophrenically afraid of punctuation so your exclamation points are scaring him
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>>575226007
What if thats his way of trying to appease us to keep playing the game because his purpose is to keep the prophecy moving.
Damn gaster and his experiments that require multiple tests for statistic collection!
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I love grooming
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>>575226089
Guys that is not the moral of Deltarune holy shit
It wasn’t the moral of Undertale either
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>>575226003
The ARG confirmed that Noelle won't go to Castle Town just like she didn't go to Flower King
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say to me a conversationstarter of your choosing
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>>575226213
In the Darkworld
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How is Ralsei built under his robes?
Is he kind of chubby like how Gigi draws him?
Is he surprisingly toned and strong, more muscular than Kris?
Or is he just a skinny fluffy twink?
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>>575226354
bitch
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grooming my favorite fuzzy cwitters until their coats are nice and tangle-free
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>>575226367
thats the point???
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Flowery is permanently rotating in my head even though I rarely look up his lewds. I'm usually never this obsessed with a character I'm not unabashedly horny for so I don't know what's up.
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>>575226312
Yeah, the moral of Undertale is that you're a bad person for playing Undertale more than once, which is completely different.
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>>575226354
Is that weld you were working on finished?
They want the piece installed in place by the end of tonight.
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>>575225696
Surely the implication of how I deliberately avoided saying "Toby fox said chapter 6 is easier to develop because of no weird route" and structured the sentence as 1 part official statement and 1 part general community consensus would be enough to know that Toby never said that?

But yes, it's not confirmed and just conjecture based of how Toby said Chapter 6 is easier to develop than other chapters and the one special thing we know about chapter 6 currently is that there's no big weird route stuff there
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>>575226136
god tier restraint

>>575226239
duplicitous sissy theory...
still hngnggnnhmphnghn
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>>575226480
No it isn’t
Good grief guys
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>>575226259
Kris, who regularly washes himself and properly combs his apple scented hair every day
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>>575226437
No the idea is that the Twisted Sword lets you kill people in the light world. Which...
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>>575225423
That's just general hotbloodedness, and the fact that every flower is a humongous anime archetype, even Blue. Unrelated but yeah I also love /m/ shit and Super Punch Out is one of my favorite games, so I like the Chapter two final battle to an unhelahty degree. (I also love the Natsume SNES games and "Knock you Down" reeks of being inspired by those sountracks) God I'll be so happy if that mechanic comes back a third time. The Ch5 platforming and it really need an ERAM-esque optional challenge.
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>>575226409
I imagine him as skinnyfat
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Toby al-Ahid Fox personally issued a fatwa on every steam account that has been caught resetting the game after true pacifist
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>>575224964
Hahahahahahaha Imagine holding Chara's hand as she uses you "for the sake of the underground", holding each other close as she makes sure as little drops out as possible and melting in her warmth. Imagine hearing Chara whisper thank you in your ear as you give yourself to her completely.
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why does kris put us in a cage
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>>575226354
Umm
Umm uh
Umm
Umm uhh
How are you feeling today?
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>>575226436
Oouhhhh Rudy tummy
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>>575226529
I'LL SHOW YOU DUPLIICICUSS
*humps ralsei*
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>>575226409
androgynous, mild pear/hourglass shape. ass looks bigger than it is because he is petit and no he isn't a shota (this is just my ideal)
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>>575226589
The knife Kris carries everywhere already lets them kill people in the light world.
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>>575226238
i can believe that. there's an emotional disconnected that comes with anonymity, and it's possible that trying to show my emotions in the way that i do makes them uncomfortable, but if i want to be more fully understood through text (which doesn't carry tone very well), then it's what i have to do!
also, i am actually schizophrenic, do with that information what you will
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>>575226753
*a red dot appears on your forehead* oh?
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Death by Flowers
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>>575226415
nyo~

>>575226503
what~

>>575226726
bery good~
tomorrow is going to be better though, as i have something exciting planned for tomorrow~
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>>575226558
Toby fox said in the tenth anni stream "I hope everyone who played deltarune weird route dies of super cancer because they are worse than the people of great britain"
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>>575226003
Castle Town was always fucked either way, I just wonder to what capacity will Maddie come back cuz she's promised to appear in both worlds.
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>>575226803
Why tf this dude throw himself off a bridge for?
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>>575226874
>also, i am actually schizophrenic,
so you're definitely underage or basically underage right? go play on roblox
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>>575226837
I didn't make the Twisted Sword theory.
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>>575226948
Kris wants that to happen by the by
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>>575226901
if I have to die, then I'll die inside gote butt!
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>>575226983
i am 30 years old, anon. i take lurasidone to quell the demons
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Put the hat back on, ugly little freak.
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Could a beloved drawfag draw a sort of punky femboy Ralsei in A Xiu Xiu tshirt
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Las creaturas
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>>575226948
>>575226003
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>>575227096
you aren't 30 retard fuck off to roblox
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>>575227128
i wish i could draw or else i would do this x)
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i wish there was more dark worlds like whatever was going on pre-chapter 1
I hope that weird space gets expanded later
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>>575227163
Lmao
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>>575226436
brushing carol's fur in a rare moment of vulnerability and feeding her a peppermint afterwards
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>>575223943
temfag came out as trans?
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>>575227128
Here's the shitty edit
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hope toby doesn't let me down here
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>>575226450
i knew we'd get some flowery favefags eventually
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>>575226528
Community consensus is just wrong in this case. The weird route doesn't have anything that would seriously impact dev time post-ch2. It's mostly just cutscenes and altered dialogue. Even ch2 weird route only has alternate versions of existing fights. The things that really drag out dev time are things like art assets, gameplay design and playtesting, and so on, not cutscenes. Toby mentioned that cutscenes weren't even fully finished when they started translating chapter 5 to Japanese, it's the last thing they do because it's the least arduous. Chapter 6 being easier to develop either means it somehow has less gameplay despite Toby saying it has its own gimmick that's already programmed and ready to go, or it recycles a lot of assets from previous chapters. The weird route isn't that big of a deal.
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>>575227232
is this projection? are you okay?
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>>575227321
Alas... we must wait for the benevolent mercy of a loyal drawfag
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>>575227609
it seems like a castle town type chapter so maybe thats why itll be easier, designing entire huge dark worlds seems hard
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>no one wanted me to elaborate further
grim
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I'll lock in and get good at drawing...tomorrow.
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Anyone play firelock 198x
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>>575227341
I assumed that stuff is simply dust. It forms in Dark Worlds with a lot of dusty items.
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I'll lock in and get good at drawing...today!!
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>>575227424
cute...
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>>575212523
kek
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When in 2027 will we get Chapter 6?
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>>575212523
why didn't the kris/noelle fags leap on this, it's the closest thing to modern evidence there is
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>>575227585
N-NOOO! FLOWERY IS NOT MY FAVE! I WON'T LET HIM BE ONE!
*smashes garden flowers with a rake*
*pours salt on the soil*
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side B will be evil deltarune with rape and permadeath
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>>575228024
march at the earliest.
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>>575226136
By thinking about some dumb purple girl
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>>575228084
they did wdym
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flowery if he was cool
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>>575227876
>Ooo la la. The purple worlds, you think they give the creeps.
>Tsk... You have seen naught but that tempered by light.
>You should thank Tenna for brightening everything up.
This seems to imply the purple areas are somehow darker than other areas
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>>575228024
Probably June.
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>>575228084
>a bunch of puns made by a secondary character
>evidence
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>>575228025
Go lower, susie
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>monsters are made out of love fags when Murdergoblinbot 2000 enters and causes the Fuckening
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>>575228024
i'm personally betting on march, considering apparently the chapter is easier to make
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>>575228519
She's getting there you heh freak
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>>575228584
But Kris isn't a monster, only wishes he could be one.
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mountain dew piss bottle darkner
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>>575228652
I love all these characters. I especially love massacring all of them.
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>>575228084
>it's the closest thing to modern evidence there is
Buddy this is a snowflake compared to the 100 Megaton Kriselluclear bombs dropped this chapter
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>no one wanted my interesting story to tell
i'll cope by saying sometimes it's better to vaguepost so i'll leave you guys with that,

goodnight chat, fucking off to bed now, cya laters.
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Carol and rudy
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>>575228616
It's gonna be 30 minutes long of pure linear cutscene btw.
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>>575224592
You know, I have met enough transwomen to know that some of them are horrific assholes and it IS important to push back against them and tell them off even though they'll accuse you of being transphobic when you do it.

The gender policing stuff with Kris strikes me as mainly bullying and being assholes with a shield of "but you need to be accepting". I AM accepting of the nonbinary angle, it's a fine way to read the character. But that doesn't give you the right to tell me what I have to think or drag me for trying to relate to this little blue asshole on a casual level.
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fave saying this
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>>575228925
that's actually sweet.
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>>575228652
>and then you KILLED your FRIENDS and GENOSLIDED the HOME TOWN
why would Kris do this
why would I do this
why is anyone taking this Chapter 1 tier theoryslop seriously
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>>575228789
noelle is really bad at finding scary people to get her wet
there's at least 10 in town already
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>>575222519
It's about the flower man
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>>575228925
how old were they in the top picture
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>>575228925
for a couple who's never even interacted on screen i really love them
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Why does Kris look like they are about to be molested in 40% of fanart?
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>>575228789
noel hollyday kek
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>>575227128
I am not beloved, sorry
Maybe post in the next thread so it gets seen by more
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>>575229117
Lore accurate
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>>575229117
i want to molest kris as dess
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Remember you can start at any age!

Toby was almost 30 years old when he released the masterpiece DELTARUNE Chapter 2 featuring Spamton.
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>>575228358
The purple worlds are the cliffs, the areas with the dust and the slightly creepy factor to them, somewhat formless.
They are darker than the rest of TV World but still under Tenna's light.

What he's actually referring to by "You should thank Tenna for brightening everything up" is what happens in Chapter 4, Titan Spawn start appearing because it's just that dark in the Church.
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>>575229117
Kris is naturally molestable
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>>575229102
I would say around 30 at most
But then that would imply they have the most horrible genes that makes them age like milk
I think bottom is AI
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Weather Doll
W D
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>>575229054
For power
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>>575229517
>implying bottom isn't also ai
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>>575228652
I would be able to take this more seriously if the theory was about killing fucked up alternate versions of the townies in Moonside Hometown rather than the actual townies, it seems more tonally in line with the rest of the game
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I CAN'T GET UP TO PISS I'M TOO BUSY POSTING
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Cocks on men are only nice when they're small petite and cute im not joking
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>>575229412
why id kris wearing pants so tight that it hugs the cameltoe
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>>575229525
Gaster from deltarune
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Did anyone here ever back up this remix?
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>>575229715
correct opinion.
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>>575212523
This isn't krisXnoelle this is soulXnoelle
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>>575229717
idk y porn artists do this theyre prob just shit artists
you cant even get pants that tight and that fit up into your asscrack irl
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>>575229715
This is just a fact
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>>575228652
I think people should stop trying to hype up the twisted sword, its probably just a bonus weapon, theres no way theres an entire route where you just mind control kris and kill all the towns people for no reason, its like the genocide route in undertale if it made 0 sense and you had to jump through extra hoops to do it.
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>>575229054
>why would Kris do this
>why would I do this
Kris wouldn't. The Description of the twisted sword is that it has a trance like effect just like the thorn ring. Upon equipping it, Kris becomes a non factor.
I.e. his body is officially ours and we can do whatever the fuck we want.
As for why we would want it? The same reason any of us comitted the genocide route in undertale.
To see what happens.
Who says the weird route IS the genocide route? We might make Kris do horrible things, but ultimately its all to make Noelle stronger.
The twisted route isnt about Noelle though. It's about making us stronger, not kris, US.
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>>575229857
you can, it's just that you have to make sure they're soft and breathable enough to not chafe
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>>575228789
WHY TOBYYYYY
WHY CAN'T THEY GET MARRIED
TOBY FUCKKKKKKK
FUCK YOU
FUCK FUCK FUCK
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>>575216407
>>575217224
by "nobody" he means "a quiet and insignificantly small fraction of people"
most people that hated gays 20 years ago have, if not cooled off on the matter, at least redirected their attentions elsewhere to troons and browns and the CDC and such
few consider gays to still be a big enough issue to be worth putting their time and energy into being mad about at this point
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>>575228970
Toby already said that chapter 6 has enemies, bosses, and its own gameplay gimmick, and that every chapter after 4 is roughly the same length.
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>>575223534
>Aunt Maddie
So cute
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>>575229857
i have seen pants on women that tight and it physically causes me soul damage to see the food hatch exposed like that.
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>>575229908
then why even give it the trance down effect at that point
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>>575230149
>food hatch
d-don't call it that please
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>>575229517
They're probably just heavy drinkers and smokers
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>>575230154
we don't even know what that means, people just assume something and run with it like fact
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>>575230047
is that small minority as small of a minority that faggots represent?
or is this in a different magnitude thusly justified by democratic principles of "nuh-uh"
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>>575229919
>The Description of the twisted sword is that it has a trance like effect just like the thorn ring.
The effect is just Trance. The icon associated with it is a down arrow, similar to the Devilsknife's Buster TP Down and GoldWidow's $-10% effect.
This implies it REDUCES the Trance effect, at least as far as the information we have can let us theorize.
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>>575227232
Nta but why wouldnt you believe that? Schizophrenic symptoms, especially in males, usually surface into adulthood
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Playing with Kris's petite flacid twink they balls in my hand and giving it soft licks
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human dess theory
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>>575230524
Dess...
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Fish I wish
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>>575230210
It's just a germanism.
sometimes we call a cunt a "Futterluke".
and for some reason we say that when its covered sparsely or not at all in public settings to not draw attention to it like that.

would be kind of embarassing to point your finger at a foid that cant dress and say "EYE KAN C UR IMMANUEL KANT"

instead we politely say "bro, i can see your food hatch, bitch learn to dress."
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Ralsei twink death
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>>575230574
Susie if I was inserting as dess I would of said petite flacid childballs you mong
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>>575230620
are any of these good, i haven't enjoyed one so far
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https://youtube.com/shorts/yaYAyKqYIKs
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>>575230584
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>>575230620
How is OP so stupid? Teeth don't bleed.
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GAST GAST GAST
IM GONNA STEP ON THE GAST
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>>575214035
Asgore is a Missionschizo and Flowery is Toby.
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>>575230620
It's too late she should have took the plunge when she still had the chance
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>>575230848
TONIIIGHT!
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>>575230593
huh... i didn't know this. i'm not as practiced in german as i should be. if i had more experience with colloquial german, rather than just reading scripture and classic novels, i might have heard something like this once or twice.
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dude i would fuck fat old ugly bastard ralsei
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Spoilers for Chapter 7 of Deltarune:
The icon for Chapter 7 is going to be a heart
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>>575230976
why the fuck are you learning german.
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>>575231005
Im sorry
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>>575230274
>we don't even know what that means, people just assume something and run with it like fact
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GREETINGS
I WANT TO BE LOVED
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>>575231129
we don't know what a Trance status effect with down arrow icon means
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>>575230112
Stop making my pp yuge
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>>575230620
>400k views
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Were these two darkners being shown together just Toby fucking with people?
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>>575231129
It could either be literally trance down, as in reducing trance, or could be inflicting more trance, with the down arrow just indicating that trance is a debuff. Is what I think these anons mean
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my holes just expanded
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>>575231191
TOO BAD
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>>575230154
>why even give it the trance down effect
they didn't
the effect is Trance
the thorn ring's Trance has a ring icon because it's a ring
the twisted sword's Trance has a downward arrow because it's not a ring
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>>575230274
>>575231219
we know its important because the thorn ring has a trance effect too and is the whole reason we can do the wr
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>>575231329
Rimming the knight
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>>575229206
Sadge
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gerson's fight on keyboard is miserable
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>>575231329
>strike the weakpoint for massive damage
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>>575231329
God I wanna motorboat and slap that ass
>>575231459
TRUUUEE!!!!!
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>>575231331
It didn't occur to Toby that some people would be retarded enough to think Jockington is actually important and not a joke character
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>>575231046
i learned it in high school! see, my school offered five languages: spanish, french, japanese, german, and american sign language. i didn't want to learn spanish because i had a teacher the year prior (8th grade) who was so bad that it made me never want to try spanish again. i didn't want to learn french because i thought it sounded silly (not so much these days). i didn't want to learn japanese because my three older brothers learned it and i wanted to be "special". i didn't want to learn ASL because i didn't think i'd have a use for it (but i was wrong). so, german was the only option left!

my teacher was wonderful, and i picked up the language strikingly quickly. my experience in that class is what sparked my love of language and my fascination with linguistics. that, in turn, led me to develop an interest in constructed languages. i've got many friends that speak various conlangs. i tried to learn verdurian (by mark rosenfelder) long ago, but gave it up after i had immense difficulty pronouncing uvular plosives and was too proud to adopt an alternate dialect that didn't have them. later, i tried learning esperanto, but i found it too boring and eurocentric for my tastes. i ended up learning toki pona, and i've been speaking it for a little over four years now. believe it or not, that's the language i find myself speaking most often these days, as most of my friends also speak it.
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>>575231365
and "here" is where?
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>>575231046
nta but ich hat für drei jahre studiert ins highschule, aber es war neun jahre vor. mein vokabular ist sehr schlecht.
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>>575231516
I think it's a skill issue thing, was no problem for me. Just hold the two keys for the diagonal arrows anon.
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>no dude the Twisted Sword gives Trance like the Thorn Ring
You mean the equipment that demonstrably does not do anything to Noelle except hurt her and let her cast her spells easier?
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SIEG HEIL!!!!

... did i do it right?
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>>575231129
the thorn ring also has trance, the twisted sword has a down arrow and trance. we're not sure what either means in these contexts.
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>>575231685
>studiert ins highschule
fuuuuuuck i meant ins highschule studiert i'm washed
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>>575231596
That's Toby's fault for giving him a portrait. There are characters far more important that Jockington who don't have one.
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>>575231808
no ralsei you used the wrong hand
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>>575230339
>trance down
well it doesnt explicitly say it has anti-trance effect or no trance at all.
I believe it implies that it has a weakened trance effect, likely enough so we can exert more control over Kris but not to the same degree as we have over Noelle.
Unlike Noelle, we are already inside of Kris puppeting his actions with the caveat that if Kris tries hard enough, he can resist our actions and even rip us out of him.
A weakened trance effect would likely put an end to that resistance.
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ough my bootyhole is winking
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>>575231260
What voice clip would that photograph play?
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>>575231329
Dess put the fucking pants on you're losing out on the set bonus. No wonder you're a big wobbling jobber, fuck ass traded the Enigma paragraph of salvation for a -5 dex modifier. I am about to kite your ass like it's galaga and you'll wonder why you need daddy Kris to cough for you to get cutscene powers again.
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>>575231596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rksOYId-cNA&t=2190s
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>Um, it's ok, I know you can't help being a goof.
>We ALL know you can't help it! Fahaha!!
Noelle is a bitch
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>>575231685
>>575231828
ich lernte in der Hochschule von 2010 bis 2014. leider habe ich viel vergessen! es gibt nicht so viele Deutschsprachige wo ich früher wohnte
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>>575231516
the trick to making the gerson fight easy is to save tp for when you get low to use susie's heal. it gives you a surprising amount of survivability since gerson starts doing less and less damage the closer you are to death.
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>>575231865
Jockington having 9 portraits that are all the same is part of the joke
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ja ja mein brot ist poopenfarten
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>>575231883
>his
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>>575231685
>>575231828
"ins" is a contraction for "into the" in feminine, highschool or hochschule is masculine however.
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>>575227128
i hope this is punky enough
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>>575213784
>no, Kris, we can't just move those flowers (which were already moved 100 times and which are already encased in protective containers) like 300 meters to grant them the gift of sentient life, we HAVE to snuff out those self aware intelligent beings with souls, mkay? There's just no other way, we are FORCED to end their lives here and now!
This is how chapter 5 ending genuinely felt to me.
They will totally actually keep living, so we are more like simply lobotomizing them, so it's all good!
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germans be like: my vunderbar has no vunder in it. HEIL
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>>575232183
How can I not fuck him when he makes these cute as fuck faces?
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>puts into cake recipe and makes cakesriel
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So Sorry would have been a better shadow crystal boss than Mew
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I lose interest in these characters when Toby leans so hard into his tumblr porn tropes
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>>575232334
What if you put Asriel's ashes into like a choccy milk and drank it so you became possessed by Asriel like that South Park episode
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>>575232173
It's gonna be my body soon so I'll call it whatever the fuck I want
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>>575232391
Toby is funny enough to do this, but not brave enough.
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>>575232197
They were annoying, it's okay if they never have sentience again.
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>>575232391
I'd rather a thousand Mew Mew's than feeding that degenerate's ego that much.
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>>575232389
thanks
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>>575230783
That's where I gently pull
Into an embrace
Into locking eyes
Into a kiss
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>>575232454
>tiny chocolate flavored asriel ghost hallucination to sit on your should and keep you company and provide you with terrible ideas
tempting proposition
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>>575232391
Toby is a shameless fetishist like So Sorry the only difference is that he has talent
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>>575232030
Jockington growing a beard is optional though. Toby says it's a spoiler 5 years ahead of time, it's mentioned in the prophecy twice, but if you don't exhaust all of Jockington's dialogue at the festival his face remains bare.
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>>575232391
Art Club GODS.... we'll win someday
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>>575232653
he'll probably just have it next chapter even if you don't talk to him
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>>575232613
Having a fetish where you like women touching each other while they have a factual discussion of their relationship is a little weird, but not as weird as So Sorry's baggage.
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>>575232653
>Jockington growing a beard is optional though.
No it's not. It happens on its own if you walk away from Jockington without interacting with him, you can hear a sound effect for it.
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>>575232197
The flowers are delicate and need specialized care, and they can't live in the Dark World anyway
A flower will die without light just like a human will die without food
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>>575232446
>tumblr porn tropes
what were YOU doing at the devil's sacrament, anon?
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>>575232331
tsuntsun...
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>>575232185
REQUESTER HERE. I LOVE YOU ANON. I WISH TO REWARD UR LOYAL DRAWFAGGERY
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needing to use a keyboard for undertale makes the game retroactively unplayable
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flowey is yellow for pee
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i think jockington was designed to be a big meme character but almost nobody talks about him
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>>575232185
man, you're so good
i wish i could draw...
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>>575232446
wtf is a tumblr porn trope? why are you such an expert on that?
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>>575231329
FAT FUCKING DESS ASS
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Deltarune is a game for chopped people
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>>575232925
>needing to use a keyboard
you can use controller though, even on pc
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>>575233002
YOU CAN
JUST DRAW
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S GOOD AT FIRST
PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT
DO IT
DO IT
DO IT
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>>575232925
The arrow keys being clunky and less intuitive than a joystick adds to the experience thoughbeit.
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I can't draw but I pay people to draw
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>>575232972
hes had like 2 jokes in the past 3 chapters
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>>575233021
Writing everyone like omegaverse caricatures
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>>575232921
post your favorite ralsei image (currently this is mine)

>>575233002
time to study
also you flatter me
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>>575233051
I thought seth was way too cute to see them as a they but it makes sense now
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>>575233160
one, that's so far from the truth that it baffles me that anyone could think this. two, the fact that you seem to know so much about omegaverse dynamics tells us a lot about you (and me, unfortunately).
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>Ralsei MUST be a bottom because he appears feminine
>also proceeds to complain about trans Ralsei
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>>575232751
>fetish where you like women touching each other while they have a factual discussion of their relationship
me
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I wish….
I WISH…..
I WISH I COULD FUCKING DRAW!!!!!!!!
*my aura explodes violently, killing all weaker lifeforms in the vicinity including Ralsei*
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i remember when i clicked on a random kralsei + asriel fic and the author unironically said kris drove a motorcycle wore a leather jacket had piercings in his ears and and angular eyes, basically all the tumblr top tropes and i kek'd out loud and then felt bad because i knew it was probably written by a teenager or something
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>>575233251
My new favorite is Xiu Xiu Ralsei!!!!
:+D ty desu
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>>575233160
i think you're confusing omegaverse caricatures with shoujo manga caricatures, they're a lot similar
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>>575233303
Alphys suddenly wearing a dress doesn't even make fucking sense
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>>575232881
sahur
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lightners be like "i wish i could draw" and then they draw better than me
i HATE him
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>>575233424
lesbians don't make sense.
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i wwish i could glubbin draww...
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>>575233302
This. Ralsei is a straight white male and he tops me (also a straight white male)
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>>575233051
This is the person calling you a troon on 4chan.net
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>>575233424
anon she wears a dress on her date with undyne you tard
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>>575233365
>the author unironically said kris drove a motorcycle wore a leather jacket had piercings in his ears and and angular eyes, basically all the tumblr top tropes and i kek'd out loud and then felt bad because i knew it was probably written by a teenager or something

You mean like exactly how Toby Fox writes his characters?
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>>575233370
thank YOU for the music rec anon. i've never heard a xiu xiu track before but they're really fucking good
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>>575233051
>>575233568
why did toby reveal that seth is so chuddy and ugly and obviously male? it was best left to the imagination
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>>575233639
slow day on /v/ huh
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>>575233557
ralsei is a sissy who struggles to lift a gallon of milk he isn't topping anything
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>>575233608
It's fucking stupid and trite
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>>575233730
Because you are supposed to hate Seth
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>>575233051
Toby what the fuck is this. You go have Temmie fix your mess right now
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>>575233639
which toby fox character fits that description?
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>>575233772
you have to line his hips up a bit but then he just sort of spasms in a way that makes it work
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>>575233639
toby does it knowingly
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you can only *get* utdr if u r a white nerdy male
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>>575233730
That's how he feels about people who navel gaze about their gender
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>>575233797
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>>575233820
Susie
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>>575233884
I guess so, that's how he knows how to shit out tumblr sexymen every chapter
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new bread
>>575234039
>>575234039
>>575234039
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just had a dream side a hatsei stared directly at the screen and pointed at me while i was playin sibe b
sorry lil buddy you cant stop me
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>>575233302
someone spam the funny image
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>>575233772
I'll milk gallons out of him don't you worry
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>>575233797
I like women in mens clothes as much as the next dyke but I dont think its unreasonable for her to wear a dress. she isnt like a hard "butch" and neither really is undyne who also wears like lipstick and a turtleneck dress over leggings on her date. Most lesbians wear womens clothes sometimes actually
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>>575233730
>obviously male
They have eyelashes so they're as female-looking as Alphys
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>>575233656
I love xiu xiu.. its funny u drew ralsei w/ the arizona cus thats what im always drinkin... Is there a way I culd commission u Anon!!
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>>575234226
She wears a dress because she's fucking pathetic and less valuable
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>>575234226
straight men aren't dykes leave these women alone
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>>575233965
the who?
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>>575233797
>>575234226
shes also a huge weeb so shes gonna have the thing that makes her wanna wear dresses
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>>575234192
kris...
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>>575234464
Wishing you healing from the male gaze i guess
>>575234476
Despite everything. Im a real woman.
>>575234697
The "anime makes you want to wear a dress" is only a male thing actually female weebs are less likely to wear dresses and I don't think alphys would actually wear dresses in her day to day life but it makes sense to me that for a date shes very nervous for she would wear something fancy and stereotypically nice and feminine. Like what else was she supposed to wear? her labcoat?
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>>575235041
It makes sense for Noelle but with Alphys it's just a pattern that's established. Alphys's character being that she's pathetic and Toby enjoys bullying her himself
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>>575235041
alphys is a gay female weeb though and probably watches like madoka magica or some shit
most female weebs just like yaoi so of course they dont wanna wear dresses
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>>575232487
Blue and yellow were annoying, even ignoring their faggotry. The rest were cute. I woudn't be against Seth, Aqua and Green in castle town at the very least.
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>>575235838
I cant even begin to parse what youre trying to say but I know that you are wrong. Toby does not like to bully alphys. "it makes sense for noelle" I dont know how to tell you that different women can wear different types of feminine clothes for different reasons. Noelle dresses in the clothes her mom picked out for her because shes a coward and alphys dresses in the same labcoat and graphic tee combo every day unless trying to impress undyne imo
>>575235857
Alphys dresses for convenience above all else and reps her mewmew love in graphic tees only even though she looks VERY CUTE in other outfits
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>>575236286
this
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I hate all of you faggots so much I genuinely want to kill you. You are a insufferable porn addicted pussy who only cares about muh dick muh butthole muh gender muh gay people shut the fuck up. I remember when the deltarune threads used to have kino schizo posting along with relevant discussion because every other site outside of 4chan doesn't give a single fuck about the game that's not yurislop. If you faggots like gay porn and dicks so much then I wish your uncle rapes you in the ass, you would probably enjoy it. How disgusting, we can't have anything good. The threads on /v/ are deleted, in Twitter everyone is a raped giga faggot and here everyone is either a tranny or a groomed faggot. Kill yourself
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>>575247586
bro i just lurk and post fave every few hours, you gotta chill
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>>575247767
you're not allowed to post the things you like you have to post the things i like



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