>Steam pagehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3787240/MARVEL_Tkon_Fighting_Souls/>TEAM TRAILERS :>Unbreakable X-Men https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwe13-BKiwo>Amazing Guardianshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nwtrXnN0vY>Fighting Avengershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iab74kM-xA>Knights of Doomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4qG-wqhLc>Samurai Outridershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QGiaEkqYEE>Phoenix Cyclops revealhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GrMqmDi-SU>Opening intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSk3IMcgVQYOpen beta weekend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UlNl6VB0g
>>575244842I've heard some people mention a universal overhead, what is it?
>>575245606L+A
What even is the purpose of Storm's lightning specials
Magik sitting on my face while she’s on her period and letting her period blood slowly drip into my mouth
what's the deal with the colored shapes next to people's names? almost everyone has a green triangle with a handful of orange squares and mine is a white circle while my friend tells me he sees it as a pink hexagon
https://youtu.be/pT1ds3Kbtj8Crazy how other people are using three assists, every ex move to get to half life and then Clayton does it solo with no meter Lmfao. At this point Clayton is probably not just the goat of tech for fighting games but I'm wonder is he just the most legendary tech lord in gaming history?
>>575245914ArcSys games, or many of them anyway, use those colors as a soft ranking system. Light blue is usually the lowest and pink is the highest. It's meant to be an indicator of the opponent's skill for use in casual lobbies. I don't know why Tokon doesn't show you your own rank.
https://x.com/TistheDac/status/2080570588628746406Find more sandwich /setup/mix options if you canActive Tag is a fucking scourge
>>575245862combo fodderH is plus on block
>>575243935I'm still finding some left right setups but I'm leaning entirely on Magik's portals for it right now and you can't be as mean with them as I would like.
>>575246162crossup protection is gonna eat all that
>>575246162What exactly is the mix here, is it just guessing strike vs throw?
>>575246059Somebody tell me the lore on Clayton. He comes off as a weirdo that knows his tech.
Do NOT respond to Clayton
>>575246059Aren't the assist combos for midscreen? Of course the corner combo is going to need less.
>>575246162this game is nowhere as cancer as regular tags
>>575247127Anon he's a faggot who spams his shit in every fighting game thread, ignore the retard advertising his garbo
My controls reset every single time I launch the game, why
auto combos are horrible. I can’t stand when games take away my control. If you do LL or even 2L into L, it triggers an auto combo and you can only link MH into specialGranblue Tag FighterZ 1.0 is among the worst I tried
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>>575247446>we need to dumb down quick add more wallbreaks
>>575243935>>575247446It's cause of Active Tag, any potential mix would turn the game into BBTAG all over again.
>>575247385jank, mine have even partially reset some buttons while leaving others intact once.
>>575244842Who here Goblin Gang?
>>575247794me, but his stuff is too much to learn in such a short beta
>>575247446Good? Mix is literally the least interesting part of fighting games, there is nothing fun or interesting about flipping coins over and over, for either the attacker or defender. If the defender has options (e.g. fuzzy blocking) at their disposal then it’s more interesting. But just being able to loop coinflips in and of itself does not make the game better.It doesn’t matter if offense is just strike/throw as long as the neutral is interesting.
>>575246978He's a gay autistic schizo who posts rambling videos (usually about fighting games) on Youtube, then posts said videos to every fighting game related thread on 4chan. on 4chan he speaks in third person, pretending to be someone else, but he has a very obvious writing style and pattern which makes it obvious it's always him. It is extremely common for him to speculate that other men want to have sex with him, and he gets hilariously triggered when you point out the obvious fact that he's a homosexual in denial. He also has delusions of grandeur, thinking that he is some god of fighting games that everyone else looks up to for tech despite vast majority of people having never heard of the guy. This is combined with a persecution complex where he thinks there is a conspiracy in the FGC to discredit and shun him, when the reality is that most people shun him because he's an autistic sperg.He does seem to be pretty good at fighters and competed in some small, less well-known games in his youth and did reasonably well. Could probably have had a decent FGC content creator career on Youtube if it wasn't for the rampart autism and schizophrenia.
so this game is just infinite but less ugly?
>>575248278I'd prefer Infinite desu
>>575247412You control the buttons you press. If you don't want to do an auto-combo, don't press L twice? It's not taking your control away, you are choosing to use the autocombo.
>>575246978He basically single handedly found all the tech for Fighterz and fat schizos and transexuals cannot stop seething about him.
>>575246978He had an internet slapfight with rooflemonger
>Please close Ace-Base before starting the gameWtf I haven't even launched any other games this startup. This shit is such a fucking hassle.
>>575248760Lmao no he didn't find a SINGLE tech
How I mod peni nude?
>>575248278bbtag
>>575249331Well, I hate both of those fucking games so... great.
I wish they would stop making active tag gamesIt is a degen as shit mechanic
>>575249331I’ve never played a tag game before Tokon. What’s the difference between MvCI style and BBTag style?
>>575246162The opponent can't tag back to ms marvel and as far as I know there are no unreactable overheads. At the end of the day it's just strike throw with visual polution
So you just play this shit like BB tag?Got it
>>575248037>Mix is literally the least interesting part of fighting gamesMan, shut the fuck up
>>575249998A forced strike/throw after getting the opponent to block a move at fullscreen is still something. But yeah it’s hard to call it “mix”
My God does the game feel better when you just remove simple input from the equation
>check twitter to see what people are coming up with>it's literally all people posting "dirty left/right mix" not realizing crossup protection invalidates all of it
>>575250109Why is it interesting to just randomly guess what your opponent is going to do?Mixup situations don’t HAVE to be boring. It’s possible for the defender to have options, or for there to be nontrivial risk/reward considerations. But most oki mixup situations in most games just degenerate into pure guessing without much depth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6WbL-9kpik
Is there a penis Parker nude mod?
>>575250540??? where did you get this from
>>575250712its fanmade
>>575249707This game wasn't originally active tag in any real sense, the tag had a significant slowdown so it couldn't be used as mix. Then the usual suspects complained when the game wasn't "30 second combos into unblockable mix guess for game" every round, so they changed it and here we are. Pretty much every significant design conflict in Tookon can be explained by the fact that they originally made a tag game that wasn't degen and then tried to retroactively fit all the degen shit other tag games have because """influencers""" complained and they got scared of the bad press.
Does the input buffer feel awful for anyone else? Jump forward into qcf forward always reads as dp. I know forward into qcf is a "shortcut" usually for dp but I've never had a problem in other fighting games.
>>575251009sometimes moves don't come out yeah
I finally figured it out, the reason why spiderman is such an annoying faggot now is because they gave everything that made him interesting to starlord due to the gotg movies essentially rewriting the character to be peter parker in space and with guns instead of webs
>>575251009The biggest issue for me is that 22X feels stricter than in other ArcSys games. So clearly they've done something to change it under the hood.
>>575248037>>5752504951: by removing ways to mix people up besides strike/throw you are LITERALLY turning it into a 50/50 coin flip of "dash up button or dash up throw"2: interacting with the other player by trying to take a read (or "guess") on what they're doing is literally the entire appeal of a 1v1 fighting game, you "guess" the mixup the same way you "guess" that they're going to dash up and go low instead of jumping over the poke you threw out to stuff their approach. so removing ways to interact with the other player and making them very binary "he did X so I do Y" situations is fucking boring
>>575250974Well it didn’t work because everyone is still complaining that there’s no mix and no sauce
>>575250974The fighting game community and twitter need to fucking die already.
>>575251009something weird about how you input moves, I swear none of the normal shortcuts work for me.
>>575251009>Does the input buffer feel awful for anyone else?yes, it's a case where the buffer is so lenient it loops back around to being fucking dogshit, sf6 suffers the same problem
>>575250974hey assholewhats the point of having a team of cool superheroes if they don't actually team up to do sick shit on the enemy? the avengers wasn't "cap solos while iron man and hulk throw shit at people sometimes before fucking off" like an episode of dragon ball. it makes 0 sense to have shitty limited tag options in a game with this source material and the main argument you have against it is "the game is too fast for my old man eyes"
>>575251693>1: by removing ways to mix people up besides strike/throw you are LITERALLY turning it into a 50/50 coin flip of "dash up button or dash up throw"That’s literally not true because if your opponent is just running at you then you can block, jump, backdash, press a button, or do many other things depending on what game and what character you’re playing. The decision tree quickly becomes exponential. That’s what gives neutral its depth.When I say “mix” I mean shit like, Millia knocking you down and putting a meaty disc on you and doing a left/right. It is literally a coinflip (ignoring shit like burst). There is nothing to think about, it’s just guessing. That’s the uninteresting shit. Again, you CAN make those situations interesting if you give the defender more options, but a pure 50/50 guess itself is not interesting.Now, between those two extremes of “opponent running at you from across the stage” (where you have all your options available) and “taking a pure 50/50 guess on wakeup” (where you have no options), there’s a big gray area in the middle, and I do agree that characters being able to go into certain mixup options straight from neutral could add depth to the neutral. But it all depends on how hard it is to access those options and what your opponent can do in response to defend themselves. Merely being able to make your opponent guess in and of itself does not add depth.
>>575251693I think the problem with the usual tag game mix is that it turns the mix into less of an interaction and more of a "blocking is the same thing as getting hit". If your opponent can do a 50-50 you can try to read which one they will go for, but when your opponent can do 4 25-25-25-25 mixes in a row before you get out of it, your chances of making any sort of reasonable read go out the window. The reason why neutral is more interesting than mix is that both players have tons of options, whereas with mix, one player only has 1 correct option, which is also very boring.
>>575252467CorrectUnfortunately this game seems to be the classic tag slop where neutral is just sitting down and spamming assists while super jumping though...
