>>575247318
hey man your mushroom toppled over

the one item that effectively solves the game's inventory problems by literally multiplying the amount of spaces you have should not be endgame content

>>575249172
The game has no inventory problems

>>575249172
craftable shulker boxes? Only a liberal tranny vegan could think of such a ridiculous idea.

>>575249172
Shulkers should remain end game, but there's room for a better bundle for early-mid game

>>575249172
>stack cap increased to 999
thoughts?

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I made a little market square

>>575252029
We don't have the technology.

>>575252029
How about 256 or 512? Power of two and all

>>575252705
cute

>>575252705
I'm surprisingly bothered by the lack of slabs in the road, otherwise it looks great

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>>575255759
I will do all the roads and other street details at the end. I do have a test road going on, but I want to rework the whole thing in one go. So that it stays consistent throughout

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Don't know what's happening but I started a cuple of new worlds and every one of them has massive holes in it, like massive hole going from surface to the deepslate level is my game corrupted or is it normal?
>pic rel
fell like I could build something here but don't know really what

>>575259224
It's just new worldgen, sometimes caves will be this massive

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enderman defecated in my house in my hardcore forever world

>>575256716
>>575252705
Will you make a final album of this? Would be nice build inspiration

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>>575262729
I will probably compile it all in one place somewhere. But it won't be done anytime soon. There's still so much to build and I have many ideas beyond this

I don't have villagers set up yet and didn't want to calculate enchant order manually so I made an enchanting calculator
https://anviloptimizer.netlify.app/

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>>575267642
Neat. It's good to have hobbies

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>>575251748
This has been my favorite in that vein so far
https://modrinth.com/mod/all-with-you
It's basically a 256-slot (4-stack max) bundle, crafted with leather, iron and string (IIRC), and it debuffs if you carry more than two at once. So it's great, it encourages even more exploration in the increasingly exploration-oriented Minecraft of the newer versions while not being able to cheese it to get a shulker's worth of storage on you.
Too bad it's stuck on 1.21.1 NeoForge. Can this be made with datapacks yet? Probably not...

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>Still no ender pancake

>>575271962
>>575272140
i bet this would be super cool if i could see what the fuck it is

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>>575271962
>>575272140
Cool as ever anon, you're the anon making the core shaders right? Did you catch this reply? >>575187542

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progress on the hole. haven't moved the beacon yet because im still in range. decided to cover up the cave with concrete. looks funny but i like it and it keeps the zombies out while doing my thing. better than the red sand I was going to use at least.

>>575249172
based and matcha-pilled

>>575282272
>builds a fantastic datapack
>ruins it by making veganism meta
idec if he said "use only parts of it", there's no reason for it other than the reality that he made the pack for himself, but is pretending to have made it for other people

how to mine mineral water in minecraft?

>>575270552
>>575251748
I keep throwing this on Fabulously Optimized
https://modrinth.com/mod/metal-bundles
Trilled and plain concept like every tiered storage container since the 1.2 days, but it works, and is kept up to date with at worst a couple of weeks of downtime. Other mods that have tried of this vein are overpowered as fuck (only need leather and some iron for what amounts to a better shulkerbox) or are updated only on """LTS""" releases.
>>575252029
Don't entirely hate the idea, but i don't consider it necessary.

>>575283239
>>ruins it by making veganism meta
Where did you find out this? Are you sure you're quoting the right person?

>>575283239
he said he made it for himself but that you can change it, he doesn't care. nigga's got me defending a gay latino poet

>>575284173
he's talking about matcha flavored. it's a datapack made by some guy on yt. one of the things it does is makes early game shulkers into "sacks" using chests surrounded by leather. another thing it does is add a lot of food recipes that give potion effects, but he intentionally made meat excluded from any meals that give potion effects

>>575284508
>can't see the signal past the noise
Entities are a pain in the ass to manage. Steve doesn't even need vitamin b12

>>575249172
the item that gives you 27x (roughly) more inventory space absolutely should be a lategame thing actually, yeah. if you want to have an easier time doing projects that requires thousands and thousands and thousands of blocks, you should have to kill the ender dragon.

>>575286401
I would've agreed with this a decade of bloat ago

>>575286892
bundle solves the bloat issue and that's available 3 minutes into any game, because you are talking about stackable item variety bloat right? you can store 64 different items in one slot with a bundle.
oh, and the ender chest still exists pre end.

it's funny to me all inventory upgrades take up a slot to have x-1 slots more. Just like a power strip or extension cord

>>575286892
>bloat
You control the items you pick up or craft.

>>575267642
Very cool, anon

Why is there an astroturfing campaign for a random data pack on /mcg/

>>575310781
we have little to talk about

>>575260612
He lives in your walls.

>>575267642
That's very well done, anon.
>>575310781
>whenever something is mentioning it's a secret shilling campaign
People like you are exhausting.

>>575270552
That's why I want it in vanilla, so I don't have to worry about it being kept up to date

What would be a "vanilla" way of implementing a Survival tool for changing the biome of an area?

>>575312054
Something like a terraforming beacon? Build some kind of cage, like for the conduit, with the beacon block inside, and then leave it alone. It keeps converting blocks on random ticks within its sphere of influence to whatever biome it's set to. The UI would be similar to the beacon, but basically just contain a list of biomes and a slot to put a diamond, which is needed to run it. Maybe it could even require multiple diamonds, like how furnaces burn through fuel

>>575312054
Biomes dynamically changing to match the blocks around them, feels the most vanilla, but I don't think mojang would do that currently. They would probably want to overhaul how biomes work if they wanted to do that, it would be a big change.

>>575310781
>community for x talks about the y that just came out for x
>clearly the federal government is trying to kill me

>>575316669
unironically this

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Vibe-coded mods >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCreator """mods"""
It had to be said.

>>575323581
>horse shit is not as bad as cow shit

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Post-Notch Minecraft is soulless.

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I miss watching ExplodingTNT videos, I know I wouldn't find them funny now, but boy did I laughed my ass off back in the day.
>>575326467
I first played Minecraft during the 1.6ish era, when Horses were released. I remember they kept removing herobrine on every patch/update as a meme.

>>575329057
They're still removing Herobrine to this day.

>>575330225
The only impactful change of 26.1 besides a single flower and data-driven villager trades was "removed baby Herorine"

>>575284345
notch never had a soul. he's the elon musk of indie games: a generally incompetent Scandi/descendant of Scandis who had a great skill at the right time, failed at running a business while walking away with a pile money, and has been trying to use said money and friend buying (or, in musk's case, impregnating every woman he spends more than a week with) to fill a void in their chest ever since.
i fully expect the game to have died around 2015-2017 if notch had kept his hands on it

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what is it with autists trying to "fix" minecraft? a year or two ago we had all the progressionfags trying to turn it into terraria, is it now a crusade against the "farm meta"?
its a fucking sandbox game. you control the blocks you place. if you dont like farms just dont build them and play without them.

>>575331568
Hey Jeb. Remove baby zombies you lanky faggot.

>>575326467
Where's the tranny splash?

>>575331629
It's just wanting to have their cake and eat it too. They see epic megabuilds on YouTube and Reddit that require dozens of shulker boxes of materials, and then they look at their own shitty dirt boxes and feel inadequate. They want progress as efficiently and gain as many resources as the more technical minded players but they have no desire (or even ability) to put in as much work, so they blame the game for being "imbalanced" or "punishing" or whatever and talk about how it needs to be "fixed" instead of just gitting gud.

>>575332326
>imbalanced
It is. No, I will not elaborate.

>>575332535
Git gud.

>>575332586
It's a baby block game. Nobody needs to "git gud", we just need blocks.

>>575331629
>>575332326
like the modding/customisation scene of minecraft is kind of an extension of the sandbox-iness of it, so if someone wants to mod their game to make resources more plentiful without farming, go for it

its more just that i find the framing of
>the game REQUIRES me to build farms and im MAD about it
weird. the game doesnt require you to do fucking anything outside of making a nether portal and killing some blazes to get to the dragon, and even with that you dont miss out on much if you dont do it. the game is about as open-ended as it could be, so being upset about things being "required" feels like tilting at windmills tbdesu

>>575332782
>we just need blocks
Unless you are in Creative, you need to put in the effort to obtain blocks.

>>575331629
I've never been a fan of farms, but it's not even a big deal these days since there are now way more alternatives. Iron veins and fortune III let you skip iron farms. Gold you can get from the Nether or from the badlands. You can spawn slimes with the slime potion for easy slimeballs, or kill slimes in the swamps. Those were the big ones for me at least, still wish there was a better way to get gunpowder but I made a datapack to let me craft it. Most everything else you don't really need an automated farm for to get in large quantities, it's just nice to have and/or fun to build. 'Cept for niche stuff like froglights I guess, there's a reason I rarely use them.

>>575334668
Indeed, and "farms" are a hackish way of obtaining resources.

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>this game is unbalanced
>if you think it's unbalanced, then why don't you just cheat?
>sure, good idea *installs mod*
>n-no, not like that!

>>575339976
what are you even trying to say? modding is cheating? balancing the game is cheating? i can't even tell if you're saying the game is balanced or unbalanced
w/e, here's your (You)

If people have such an issue with afk farms why don't they play like etho's mentality? The why play the game if you're going to afk at a farm? Make the farm require your manual input.
I forgot the exact wording of his quote but I understand the logic behind it. It's why the mob ones require him to hit them or a button for potions or the manual wood/mushroom farms instead of having the TNT and pistons do it automatically. You're still playing and setting up the wood farm in prep for the incoming TNT explosion instead of it being auto afk

>>575341498
I am creating a bad faith strawman against the people who say "just play creative" while also fallaciously implying that they are also upset over general mod usage.

>>575342912
>I love minecraft! But I would never ever ever ever ever play it!
see I just did it again!

>>575335863
>and "farms" are a hackish way of obtaining resources
Absolutely not. It's a major part of the game.

>>575343026
What are you quoting retard. I'm semi defending the opinion of people who dislike afk. There's ways to make your farms manual like they're wanting.

The same logic of wanting to play the game applies to modpacks too. You can create make a fully afk farm. Or you can do a create farm that requires you to drive around a vehicle with a saw/item sucker/item placer attached to farm it all. The latter has you playing the game manually for the result

>>575344539
>abusing spawn rules is how the game is supposed to be played, aktualy

>>575345065
It's a fucking sandbox game. There is no definitive way you are "supposed" to play it. Mob farms have been a staple of the game for over 1.5 decades and Mojang has done nothing to patch that.

>>575345483
>Mob farms have been a staple of the game for over 1.5 decades and Mojang has done nothing to patch that.
Which is why some people are looking for another way (mods/datapacks) to harvest some resources because indeed, Mojang can't be arsed to do anything about it.
But somehow some anons are having a meltdown because they think we want to take farms away from us by giving players more options.

>>575345065
Uh, yes, it's a sandbox like some anon said earlier. Play however you want
Personally I have never made a mobfarm. Neither have I done any redstone other than the ocassional hidden door

>>575345732
>Mojang can't be arsed to do anything about it
Why should Mojang do anything about it?

>But somehow some anons are having a meltdown because they think we want to take farms away from us by giving players more options.
No, it's because you are positioning the ability to automate and mass produce resources through farms as something "broken" that needs "fixing" when it's just the game working as intended.

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red nether brick or mangrove for the fence?

>>575349889
mangrove desu

>>575349889
I always forget red nether brick exists. It's a really nice block.

>>575350093
i think i agree. i like the contrast between the red nether brick and the deepslate but the mangrove looks nicer matching the other stuff

>>575350237
yeah its nice. i use it for roofs a lot. for a long time i thought of it as being expensive/a pain to get a lot of, but i forgot crimson trees have wart blocks as their leaves so you can just harvest a few of those

>>575350414
>but i forgot crimson trees have wart blocks as their leaves so you can just harvest a few of those
What are you talking about? You can't use nether wart blocks to make red nether bricks.

>>575350623
is crafting wart blocks into wart not in vanilla and ive had a datapack on for so long ive forgotten about it?

>>575350849
No, it's not in vanilla. It should be, though.

>>575351024
oh, my bad kek. definitely should be though, yeah;; itd be consistent with pretty much every other "block of..." block

>>575331676
baby zombies are fine, it's the retarded way that the game is programmed since the singleplayer/multiplayer code merge in 1.3
i assume most people here are unc and remember what it's like playing alpha or beta, where if you left click on a mob you KNOW that you are going to hit if if you are in range, and you don't have to gamble whether you have currently lagged in literal singleplayer and get yourself hit anyway, but if someone does not know or forgot:
it used to be possible to kill angry endermen without them touching you, minecarts used to feel like actual solid physics objects and not like weird sponges that sometimes get a random 409381275 km/h boost when you walk into them the right way, there were less (or none at all?) ghost blocks, and no weird desyncs like when a zombie is walking into your house, you close the door, but you do it a little too late so the built-in server decides that you didn't close the door in time because on its side the mob was already inside when you closed it and it re-opens the door for you, causing a visual lag and player frustration.
i encourage anyone to try any version before 1.3 to see how a video game like minecraft should *actually* feel like, it's actually incredible how 13 years after the release of that dumpster fire of an update they still haven't managed to fix any of these issues correctly.

>>575351185
you're wrong, wool can't be converted into string either, nor planks into logs. this is how the game was designed and thus invalidates your entire argument. just play creative, faggot.

>>575345732
>Mojang can't be arsed to do anything about it.
Mojang can't be arsed to do anything in this game period.
Enchanting isn't fixed. Potions aren't fixed. PvP/combat isn't fixed. Exploration hasn't been expanded. No new bosses, no endgame goal. Even for building half the common blocks aren't renewable or easily accessible, the inventory is in dire needs of fixing.

In terms of features and content of the game, afk mob farms is one of the least important things mojang needs to fix lmao

>>575354949
>afk mob farms is one of the least important things mojang needs to fix lmao
Especially considering you yourself CAN just make manual farms. It's similar to using janky redstone, you don't have to use the complex stuff.
The other issues listed are hard stuck for the developers to actually handle. They're out of the players control in terms of vanilla. The player can't do anything about enchanting being so shit or having no content to explore. (WOW an empty camp with copper tools!)

>>575351024
>>575351185
Jeb explained why it's not. It makes even more sense after the nether update.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/4kkp3j/comment/d3g4ypm/

>>575357382
>FML
Damn, he used to be cool

>>575357721
I imagine as a representative of the Minecraft brand he is contractually forbidden by MS from using swears in public places or something

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not so tough now are you bloody bastard bitch

>>575364429
Why are you shooting a goat with a zombie-piglin arm?

>>575357382
If the Nether Wart Block is a bunch of Nether Wart mashed into a block, then why is it used as the "leaves" for the Crimson fungus? And why can't you use the things that look kind of like blue Nether Wart to craft Warped Wart Blocks?

>>575351024
I thought vanilla could 2x2 nether bricks and nether wart to make red nether brick but apparently that's a modded thing.

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>>575364895
>zombie-piglin
oh it hurts
idk, just always been my skin since alpha

>>575365223
It should be a thing, but then they'd have to add blue netherbricks for warped wart blocks, and that's never happening

>Pigman to piglin

I'm still waiting to watch the fallout when the end update happens and they rename the enderMAN to the enderlin or something

>>575369375
I can see it.
>The "enderman" was racist and a revamp was long overdue.

>>575357721
>Jeb
>cool
I never thought he was.

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the great de-crimson-ing is nearly complete, just got the roof stripes here and then the central gate left to go

>>575377731
This looks so good.. I wish I were this good at building. It sounds like you did this in survival too do you build/plan in creative first?

>>575279806
No, this was base 1.12.

>>575381950
This one specifically I think I just rawdogged in survival as far as I remember, but I use creative to test stuff sometimes. A lot of my big builds like this are basically just repeating wall panels so sometime I mess around with panel designs in creative, but I don't think I've ever mocked up an entire build. The fact it does ultimately just come down to like an 8x8 panel also means it's not too taxing to trial and error in survival, which I guess is why I don't bother with creative a lot of the time

It just takes practuce and figuring out what works best for you/your style. I've had this world for years now and being able to make big building that look decent with relative ease is just a function of having so much experience building in this style. Pick a style you like and just start building, there's not much more to it than that.

What was the last good season of hermitcraft?

I don't watch minecraft youtubers. given the sheer number of them that have turned out to be literal pedophiles, I just opt to not associate myself with that community. it's at a point where they're more likely to be a pedophile than not and I just don't need that in my life.

>>575388805
>Pick a style you like and just start building
This is the best advice. Just google some examples, try those examples, then try to give it your own twist. The more you build the easier it is. It will come naturally eventually

>>575329057
>ExplodingTNT
That shit was such fucking garbage. I wish I'd spent that time watching films or playing videogames instead.

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>The more you build the easier it is. It will come naturally eventually
ive been playing since alpha btw, this is the best I can do in 100 days on my hardcore forever world

>>575393251
lowkey looks like a friendgroup server
>the community farm
>tree locations for wood
>4 different bases

>>575393251
that's a long tower

>>575394556
all singleplayer. pic taken from the creeper farm
>bottom: original base, food before the auto chicken farm (left half of lake was a large wheat field before restoring it)
>right: in progress chunk mining, future storage castle that I've more or less abandoned at this point
>top: current base, super smelter setup, lava chicken shrine
>left: was gonna be an old beta style build but also abandoned that one for now.

the trees are part of an ongoing beautification project. cherry saplings seem super temperamental though and sometimes refuse to grow so i'm thinking im just gonna abandon that and replace them all with oaks again. the spruces will replace a jungle

>>575395231
i wanted to make a big evil watchtower that I could see from far away but now there's just a bbc in my base.

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>>575393251
original area:

seed is 5670685495793217987
it's really nice, I usually cycle through a few seeds before settling on something, but this one was great on the first try. trial chamber almost directly below 0,0, couple close by villages, great badlands and deserts too fairly close by.

>>575395686
>i wanted to make a big evil watchtower that I could see from far away but now there's just a bbc in my base.
Build a similarly sinister fortress around it.

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i suppose if you want big dappled forest biomes you have to play on a large biome world to actually get something like this, it's so sad how they keep adding cool new biomes but limit them to tiny blobs surrounded by boring regular forests or plains biomes. i want to be completely lost in dappled forests and pale gardens, even with large biomes they're extremely patchy and you need some luck to generate them like this

>>575401706
im sure seedfinder autists will be able to find a 1m+ block forest somewhere within 10m blocks of spawn.

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>>575387824
Very cool, I haven't seen a lot of haunting prerelease vibes in 1.12. I only really remember the Classic Alternative resourcepack and the OSECA mod, how did you get the lighting looking that way?

>>575401706
Yeah the new world gen system fuckin sucks and new biomes like this and the pale forest keep proving how flawed it is
It's a shame there's no medium biome option built in, large biomes are TOO large but standard is like 2-3 chunks

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>>575401706
We really need a microbiome-fixing datapack. I could probably hack one together.

>>575402264
For reference:
https://legacy.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/old-swing
This got ported as far as out as 1.18.1 and is the code ancestor of Nostalgic Tweaks. No idea if the 1.12 code is related to the later one at all though.

>>575402264
Render distance 2, moody brightness, smooth lighting disabled.

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>>575331629
fagcraft players: NOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE FARMS, THAT'S UNETHICAL
chad fortress players:

>>575357382
But it doesn't make sense since the brewing stand is now fueled with blaze powder.

>>575366089
Well it should, what a fucking travesty.

oh yeah

>>575357382
You need blaze powder to make potions anyways.

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>>574078210
>>574303038
>>574408731
Really cool shaders C2! You have a bunch of interesting projects going on... I thought PolyMc ( https://github.com/TheEpicBlock/PolyMc ) was impressive but Anachron is something else lol.
Sadly this pack is pretty demanding though, it tanks the game in the Nether cus lots of lava, not sure if anything can be done about it.

I appreciate it.

wah!

>>575365418
Those were just so stupid. The existence of zombie pigmen implied the existence of non-zombie pigmen, yet there weren't any. I found it so jarring.

trying again
[G][G][G][G]
[G][G]
[G][W][G]
[G][G][G][G]

>>575436470
goddammit I can't find the right space

>anon is trying to summon Herobrine

>>575436627
no, I'm trying to go to heaven :(
also I missed a row, here's attempt 2
[G][G][G][G]
[G] [G]
[G] [G]
[G] [W][G]
[G][G][G][G]

>>575436743
fuuuuuck me
did chinkmoot break non-breaking spaces or something?

i am having so much fun with the sulfur cube, bros, it's unreal, it's the best thing ever

weve had about two years of dropslop now, whats been the best and the worst drop?

>>575443727
>what's the best drop
Always [current_drop + 1]
Sulfur cube release? We don't give a fuck, forgotten the second it comes out. The cool thing is the pillow now! The pillow will change the essence of minecraft!

Anyone tried the datapack of the libtard with the asylum applications and forced veganism yet?

>>575443727
>best
the one with craftable saddles and improved leads
>worst
the baby one

>>575443727
>best
pale oak, probably going to be dethroned by autumn forest. neither of them are earth shattering but i like when they add blocks to the block game rather than useless streamerbait mobs. also as much as we meme on the cushion having an easy way to sit is nice
>worst
babies. sulfur cubes sucked too but at least cinnabar is nice

>>575444437
the matcha one? or is there another doing the rounds rn?

>>575443727
This is how I would rank ever drop from best to worst:

Upcoming next drop (pretty autumn forests, cushions with lots of potential for decoration, straw beds for sleeping without resetting your spawn point)
Spring to Life (a lot of small additions which really did wonders to biome ambience and variety)
The Copper Age (cool new copper stuff and shelves for building, though the golem is fucking useless)
The Garden Awakens (pale oak and resin bricks are cool, but the pale garden itself is a joke)
Bundles of Bravery (the bundles are one of the most useful things ever added to the game, but there was nothing else)
Chase the Skies (likewise, the Happy Ghast has proven invaluable for large construction projects, but the drop has nothing else to offer)
Chaos Cubed (cool new building blocks, but the cum cube is not much to write home about)
Mounts of Mayhem (I'm loving the spear a lot, but don't care much for anything else this drop has)
Tiny Takeover (wow it's fucking nothing)

>>575445347
this would pretty much be my ranking, except id have copper (i just dont like coppers aesthetic so more blocks of it just doesnt do anything for me) and bundles (i just play a forever world so i have no use for an early game item like bundles) lower. i forgot about mounts of mayhem entirely, definition of a bloat update

>>575445347 (Me)
I forgot that Chase the Skies reworked leads so now I can take a horse across an ocean, might bump it up for that

>>575410567
DF looks fun but there are so many systems that it seems daunting.

>>575445563
>and bundles (i just play a forever world so i have no use for an early game item like bundles)
Mindblowingly bizarre take. Having a mixed stack is useful at any stage of the game, whether you have countless countless shulker boxes or none.

>>575435407
Non-zombie pigmen could have been added in a later update.
Or maybe there was an apocalypse and all the pigmen got tp'd into the Nether and were turned into zombies.
Use your imagination, anon. Fill in the blanks.

>>575331629
>>575444437
im watching his video now, barely two minutes in and its already retarded
>i didnt want to tear up deserts for mass quantities of sand, so i made cobble smelt into gravel and gravel into sand
where are you getting the cobble? either you make a generator (farm + grinding) or you quarry it (destroying the world + grinding). and what about the coal? hunting for veins surely qualifies as grinding and wither skele farms must be haram under his rules

this feels like another jetstarfish situation where someone who doesnt play or understand the game has invented problems to sell you a solution through a snazzy video (i know hes not paywalling his mod but modrinth + youtube both pay)

>>575444698
>the matcha one?
NTA. Yes, "Matcha."

>>575446078
>Non-zombie pigmen could have been added in a later update.
They existed in a very early build and were later removed :(

>>575446181
>i didnt want to tear up deserts for mass quantities of sand, so i made cobble smelt into gravel and gravel into sand
I'm like this. Even made a mod that allows you to do exactly this (but you need to find deepslate and redstone first).
>where are you getting the cobble? either you make a generator
You do that.
>what about the coal?
Not needed. Create a bamboo farm.

>>575446181
The difference is, you can mine stone underground without destroying the surface, but sand can only be quarried on the surface, unless you are autistic enough to fill your sand quarries with cobblestone or other junk with a top layer of sand.

His recipe is still retarded though, if you are doing major changes like this you need a full on mod and not a data pack. Have a new type of workstation where you can crush stone into dust and then make gavel out of it, and then maybe likewise gravel into sand.

>>575446727
nta but I'm thinking the stonecutter could generate sand every X stone blocks cut

>>575446181
im just going to keep a list of retarded shit and post when im done:
>game expects you to be a walking pantry so you can always have the optimal effects
potion effects arent needed in vanilla and by changing mobs so that they are, youve now created a grind of constant food production and management
>i want my forever world to be vanilla, not a modpack, so this is just a datapack
extremely arbitrary distinction given how sweeping its changes are. this is more invasive than most vanilla+ style mods. all his food changes wouldnt even have been possible as a datapack until a few updates ago and would have been a mod
>players are incentivised away from building slaughterhouses
the optimal diet in vanilla is already vegan, unless the gold in golden carrots is coming from pigmen i guess kek
>death is punishing because you lose your items
hasnt keepinventory defaulted to on in vanilla easy since last year?
>roll a wandering trader spawn then roll a refugee application
it would literally be quicker to just kidnap two (2) villagers, and if youre building an actual village for them because youre anti-farms theyd breed naturally. this replacement to grinding is grindier than the grind. also, fucking lmao
>block to kill all mobs in radius
this is a grinder
>new tools and alloys
bloat
>stonecutter
>cuts wood
come on man
>fish collecting minigame
why are people so obsessed with fishing minigames

i dont have any objection to him making this pack, i just think the notion of "the game is punishing me and i need to fix it" is retarded. and he contradicts his own logic constantly. his own arguments fall apart, probably because the whole problem is imagined and you can just play minecraft however the fuck you want to begin with. also both the video and the modrinth page are full of typos

>>575446712
sure, but his whole thing is hes fundamentally opposed to making farms. my point was that his change just kicks the can down the road, it doesnt actually fix the stated "problem"

>>575446727
tbf to him im impressed with what hes done technically with just a datapack (which i guess is more of a function of me being out of the loop on how much is data driven now than anything else), but yeah, this may as well be a mod and it only isnt because of arbitrary autism reasons (and maybe he thought making a mod would be harder? but if you can make a datapack you can make a mod tbdesu)

>>575447368
>i want my forever world to be vanilla, not a modpack, so this is just a datapack
That's such a strange cope, desu.
>no no this isn't modded you see, I'm using a DATAPACK!

>come on man
Well it was to be expected. He can't into Java and therefore can't add a new workstation.

>>575447524
>sure, but
Oh, I know. I was just defending his "let's not fuck up beaches" angle.

>>575447368
>why are people so obsessed with fishing minigames
I absolutely love the way high on life 2 handled this

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>>575436823
Yeah, it's not longer possible to triforce

>>575447524
You are inherently more limited in what you can do with a data pack compared to what you can do with a mod, but also the barrier of entry is lower since you basically only need some text files with data to make a working data pack without needing a mod loader or writing code, and it's more accessible for users too since to use a data pack they just need to drop an archive into a folder in an otherwise completely vanilla client. However, sometimes people go so deep with data packs and do incredibly complex things using functions that it comes to a point where it would have been easier and more optimal to implement the same changes through a few lines of code in a mod.

MCreator and its consequences have been a disaster for the modding scene.

>>575448942
This would be better as a mod for sure. You can already see in the video he's bumping up against the limits of what datapacks can do. How's he done the adding items? Is that possible with datapacks now or has he cheated and eg. "berry pie" is just a berry variant with custom components?

>>575447863
>That's such a strange cope, desu.
>>no no this isn't modded you see, I'm using a DATAPACK!
seriously. i play with maybe ~40 mods installed, between server- and client-side, and my game is without a doubt more "vanilla" than that of someone who only has the matcha datapack installed. being a datapack doesnt magically mean it isnt fundamentally altering the vanilla experience

>>575448282
qrd?

>>575449227
whats that? have they made a vibe coding client for minecraft mods now?

>>575449525
>whats that?
A GUI to create mods. You don't need to know how to code at all to use it.
MCreator mods are usually bloated and unoptimized.

>>575446181
>this feels like another jetstarfish situation where someone who doesnt play or understand the game has invented problems to sell you a solution through a snazzy video (i know hes not paywalling his mod but modrinth + youtube both pay)
having finished the video now i dont think i was 100% accurate with this; hes not as much of a grifter as jetstarfish, but i think he has the same thing thats part of jetstarfish's problem (along with many, many others) where they just cant into minecraft (lacking creativity, willpower, imagination, some combination thereof) and rather than just accepting the game isnt for them they see it as a problem that needs to be fixed. i have no interest whatsoever in playing csgo, but that doesnt mean csgo needs to be turned on its head to cater to me specifically

>>575449293
He seems to be using mob spawn eggs with entity data removed for custom items. It's definitely a crutch, but since Mojang still doesn't let you use custom components on crafting recipe inputs your options are severely limited without going modded.

>>575449293
>"berry pie" is just a berry variant with custom components?
A pie variant, yeah. You can use datapacks to register item variants with custom properties and textures now.

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>>575449815
>they made scratch for minecraft modding
fucking kek
better than ai slop i guess

>>575450289
>better than ai slop i guess
Not really.
I'd expect a Claude-created mod to perform better than a Timmy-made MCreator mod, desu.

If you are autistic enough to play Minecraft on even a slightly more serious level than a casual you should be autistic enough to understand the basics of coding and be able to make a simple mod

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also, he talks about how happy he is for you to take his pack and edit/redistribute/steal (his words) it, but its under CC. if he actually didnt give a shit itd be MIT

>>575450508
claude and its ilk are shit for modding ime, mainly just because minecraft modding changes so regularly and all the knowledge for it is in non-indexable places like discords so AI cant be trained on it (the official fabric docs SUCK). i tried copilot or whatever shit is baked into intellij one time to speed up repetitive "well ive defined all the blocks for maple now repeat exactly that but swap in 'beech'" type stuff and it was a disaster

maybe its better for forge where its more common to develop for a version thats been out for ages (1.12.2 is a biggie i think?)

>>575401706
I will refer back to my previous post: >>575312398

>>575450545
>but its under CC
Which one?
>MIT
Not better than CC because you're allowing commercial use of your code. Which is forbidden by Mojang, I know, yet some faggots hide their mods behind a Patreon anyway.
I release all my shit under CC BY-NC. You're free to do whatever you want with it as long as you're not paywalling it and as long as I'm credited.

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>>575451112
picrel
idk that much about the licences i just know MIT is the most permissive one while CC requires credit (which is largely a non issue but just felt like it flew in the face of "steal my stuff!!!")

>>575445563
>bundles (i just play a forever world so i have no use for an early game item like bundles)
I have a bundle with all the crafting stations in it in my ender chest. Super convenient. I'll add straw beds to it once the next drop drops. I also have a bundle with saplings, since I don't want to spend 10+ slots when I could spend like 2 or 3. Bundles are surprisingly useful when it comes to managing inventory, even in the post game

>>575451335
>CC requires credit
It does here. That's the "BY" part. If it were released under CC0 you wouldn't need to.
NC = Don't paywall your shit.
SA = You MUST release your derivative work under the same CC license. A bit of a dick move this one.

>MIT is the most permissive one
WTFPL is even more permissive. It stands for "Do What The Fuck You Want To Public License."
It is a very short license.

The worst one is ARR (All Rights Reserved), and I hate the faggots who use it.
You have to ask them for permission whenever you do anything with their mods. Cunts.

>>575451335
CC-BY-NC-SA, as I understand it, is an attribution-required, non-commercial, "share-alike" license. You must credit the original creator, can't sell it, and must release any derivate work under the same license. The MIT license doesn't have any restrictions outside of including the original license text with the code, and crediting the original creator. You're free to include the project in your own commercial, proprietary code. MIT is also designed for code, whereas CC is designed for other works (e.g. books, music, video). Point is, I don't think you're legally in the clear if you want to take textures from his data pack and include them in your own pack. You'd need to adopt the same license at the very least

>>575452646
>and crediting the original creator
Not mandatory when it comes to MIT.
>You'd need to adopt the same license at the very least
Indeed.

>>575450289
I will never understand how anyone can think something like that is easier to work with that actual code. Maybe if you don't know what indentation is, but come on. All modern IDEs will auto-format your code for you

>>575452575
>>575452646
tbdesu i just brought it up to be petty because the guy seems like a retard
ive kind of always just operated under the assumption that in reality, licences basically amount to "donut steel" and anything thats open source (and big enough that people are coming across it) is getting yoinked on the regular with no credit, regardless of licence. i have no idea if thats actually the case, maybe im just cynical

>The MIT license doesn't have any restrictions outside of including the original license text with the code, and crediting the original creator
MIT requires credit? whoops, i thought it didnt this whole time, all my stuff is under MIT. i guess i should change to CC0 based on what the other anon said? as mentioned above licences are fake and gay but i also dont want good law abiding mod makers to have to jump through hops if they want to steal my code

>>575450740
I've used Brave's AI, which I thought was called Leo but it's usually just shown as "Ask Brave", to some success. It's actually pretty great for anything established (JS, Java, C#, even AutoHotkey), but struggles with Minecraft because of what you said. I've had to tell it that a certain registry doesn't exist more than once. Still, it has steered me right a lot, too. I don't use it to write code though, just to look up documentation

>>575453054
the hard part of learning to code (at least for the purposes of something like relatively basic modding) is just getting used to how computers "think"; counterintuitive shit with if/elses, loops, whatever. how do i represent the logic of this thing i want to happen within the framework available to me?

something like mcreator requires you to get used to that anyway, so at that point all youre missing is the actual java syntax, which you can learn in an afternoon and takes two seconds to check if you forget something (just google "java OR operator" or whatever shit idk)

>>575453412
yeah, thats pretty much my experience. i do a lot of javascript at my job and im the only dev on the team so theres no one else to check my code, and claude has been decent for catching shit i miss (though its far too inconsistent for me to have it write shit in the first place)

>>575453062
>MIT requires credit?
Nah, anon got mixed up. It happens.
>change to CC0
If you don't want to be credited and don't care if people sell your code, MIT is fine. However, it's true that CC0 doesn't force people to include the original license like MIT does.

>>575453028
>>575453062
MIT technically requires attribution because you have to include the license text with the code, and the license text contains the original copyright holder. There's a no-attribution version of MIT called MIT-0, where you can leave out the license text. But it's true that you don't need to explicitly credit the creator, say in a game's credits sequence

I'm guessing he went with CC because his data pack isn't just code, but also art. That art wouldn't be covered by an MIT license, I'm pretty sure. Still, I don't think it's the right license for a project where he's encouraging people to "steal" assets and reuse without credit

>>575454271
Honestly, I've never included my name in the license text, but maybe it's bad practice on my part.
>reuse without credit
Well that directly goes against the license he chose, sooooo.

so if im following this correctly, CC is essentially modular, with the different bits meaning different things. it sounds like what i want would be CC-NS, assuming that exists?
>dont care if people steal my shit
>dont care what licence they slap on derivatives (though itd be nice to prevent them going ARR, could i do that specifically somehow kek)
>dont care if about credit
>prevents them monetising it (which really would be mojangs problem but its lame on principle)
>covers texture art as well as code

>>575454601
*NC

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>>575454597
It's just how it's written, since MIT retains copyright while CC0 basically makes your project public domain

>>575454597
>Well that directly goes against the license he chose, sooooo.
And that's the whole problem. He should have used CC0 if he wanted anyone to be able to do anything with it

>>575454601
Hmmm. I don't think a CC license would fit your needs here since CC0 is the only one that doesn't include a BY clause, but then you'd allow people to monetize your code.
The closest is CC BY-NC-SA. It would prevent your code from being monetized and from going ARR by forcing people to reuse a CC BY-NC-SA license. People would need to credit you.
But there might be a better license for you, I don't know.
>>575454885
><copyright holders>
Oops! That'll teach me for not reading.

>>575454601
It's not completely modular. The closes you can get is CC-BY-NC, which still requires attribution. All CC licenses require attribution, with the only exception being CC0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons_license#Types_of_license

>/mcg/ - Software Licensing General

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>>575455658
It's actually been quite informative, I wasn't sure about all of the details myself when we started

>>575455331
>>575455538
i see, thanks anons. ill probably just either leave it on MIT then, or maybe switch to CC-BY-NC or CC-BY-NC-SA, and if people want to credit me they can and i wont bother doing anything about it if they dont

>>575455742
this kek, i didnt really ever pay much attention to this stuff before.

It's generally recommended to not use CC for code since it doesn't protect against someone patenting it.

>>575455658
What's funny is that it's happening here and not over at /mmcg/.

just GPL your shit it's that shrimple

>>575456339
i cant speak for everyone here but i play with quite a few mods, theyre just mostly performance stuff and "vanilla-esque" stuff that makes small additions (the mods ive made falling into this category too), which feels more at home here than /mmcg/, which is more for very transformative modpacks. i imagine plenty of other /mcg/ anons are in similar boats

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>>575456193
>>575456356
Good advice if you're writing actual code, desu. And by that I mean not a mod for a children's game.
We're not sending anyone to the moon with our shit.

>>575456193
Can you release a mod under multiple licenses? As in, can the code be MIT and the assets CC BY-NC?

>>575456875
I think most people here are vanilla+. Part of the fun of a sandbox game

>>575458552
I play strictly vanilla

>>575458412
Yeah.

to raise another petty grievance with the matchaslop, he provided fuck all documentation despite changing half the recipes in the game

the reddit thread with the trailer for the pack is just lost players hoping someone knows how to craft saplings kek

>>575445854
it's less complicated than you might think
the real issue is figuring out the controls and all the different ways to mark areas, order the production of items, etc.

but the basics are easy, you just need to make sure someone in your fort is making enough food and booze to survive, after which you can make whatever kind of fort you want.

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>>575461412
Handy. I might make use of that in the future

>>575461871
Do custom recipes not show up in the recipe book? Or are the recipes so confusing that people don't even know where to start?

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>>575462221
no idea, i havent played it. i just noticed how much of the thread (which was just a link to the trailer, which i guess youd expect to be general discussion) was people totally lost, so i checked the modrinth and theres no docs linked. wheat seeds seem to be stumping people too.

>>575462221
Without actually looking into the data pack, it is possible that he added recipes but didn't add the technical advancements that make them show up in the recipe book once you have certain ingredients

>>575462221
this >>575462532, or the items required to craft arent intuitive so recipe unlocks dont count for much because you still need to have the item in the first place. say you needed ghast tears to craft pumpkin pie, if youre trying to work out how to craft pumpkin pie, youre not going to go and pick up a ghast tear to try it, and youre not super likely to just have picked one up anyway, at least in the early game

thats an especially contrived example but you get my point

>Matcha Flavoured is a datapack designed to reward casual players who don't enjoy making mob farms, or engaging in the technical aspects of minecraft. The goal being for casual players, who like to play slowly, to be able to gather the same amount of resources technical players do in the same amount of time.
am i missing something or does it just not fucking do this? what about this datapack would allow me to gather the same amount of wood in an hour that my afk tree farm would generate, or the cobble that my cobble generator would produce, etc.?

>>575462532
>>575462841
I had no idea you had to register the recipes to pop up like that. Never really worked with data packs

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The only problem I have with farming in Minecraft is the iron golem farm. It just doesn't seem right that a mob you're supposed to be allied with, who's supposed to protect villagers, should be subject to being melted down for scrap. It especially doesn't make sense that villagers should be able to spawn them from the ether. Spawning an iron golem should cost the village something.

It would be more interesting if they were to add a new hostile mob that could regularly drop iron. Creating an iron farm would thus require confronting these mobs and conquering their spawner. It would be dangerous and make you earn the iron instead of having it given to you for basically free. Alternatively, they could make it so mobs with iron/chain armor and weapons spawn from spawners and drop their armor without needing player kills.

>>575463153
Have you tried with EMI? I don't know how well it interacts with datapacks.

>>575463153
yeah, theyre literally stored as advancements, so i guess maybe easy to miss if you only look in the recipes section of minecrafts files. with modding, recipes these days are all generated for you from java you write, and the advancements are easily included as part of that (yet another reason this datapack should have been a mod)

>>575463318
I miss old iron farms with stacking villages and doors and what not. much more complicated to design and build, but the output could be much greater

>>575464406
The one that had perfectly spaced villagers in small "rooms", and an Iron Golem would spawn in a pool, fall, and die on a lava block?

>>575463318
Mobs drop items when they die, that's a well-established Minecraft convention. It's implied that villagers spawn golems the same way players do, with resources they get the same way they get the resources for trading. My only issue is how easy it is to build a golem farm early game, and that you pretty much need a tutorial because fuck figuring out the exact spawning conditions by yourself. Mobs farms are easy, since they just need darkness. But an iron farm needs at least 3 villagers, those villagers have to be scared by a hostile mob, they can't have seen a golem in the last 3-5 minutes, and they need to sleep on occasion so the mob has to be hidden every now and then. That's not something you just stumble onto

>>575464569
no, that was the extremely easy to build version that had pretty terrible output. I'm talking about the designs that would stack multiple villages on the same centerpoint to get crazy yields. I don't give a fuck about the "well-being" of villagers and iron golems. every entity in the game exists for me to exploit it

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>>575465034
You are evil.

>>575464841
>Mobs drop items when they die, that's a well-established Minecraft convention.
except Sniffers. and Armadillos. and Axolotls. and Bees. and Camels. and Frogs. and Goats. and Happy Ghasts. and Ocelots. and Sulfer Cubes. and Wolves
pretty much any passive/neutral mob added since Microsoft took over

>>575466365
But anon, children need to understand they shouldn't try to beat a camel to death.
Imagine if they dropped meat. Oh, the humanity!

>>575465112
for using game mechanics to produce resources for myself? no one is forcing you to make farms, but making farms is the most enjoyable part of the game for me
>>575466646
the funniest part to me is that horses/donkeys drop leather, but camels don't because?...reasons

>>575464569
That was the basic one, and it sucked, as it should've, because it was easy as fuck to build, to match the modern farms' throughput you actually had to do quite the complex planning or stack multiple of the inefficient variants in an ugly, space inefficient manner, as if yu wanted to exploit the game it actually felt like an elaborate exploit.

>>575463051
This datapack slowly creeps on the thin line where it makes sense to go into a full blown mod, isn't super complex but has enough optional branches and custom behavior that it turns cumberstone to manage with just JSON and namespaces.

>>575463318
I've never felt the need to make an iron golem farm as so far the iron I get from mining has been more than enough. Unless you are building some ridiculously large contraption like maybe a guardian farm that requires covering the entire footprint of an ocean monument with hoppers or something

The elytra breaks the game, and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't. It's too convenient.

>>575466365
And yet the mobs people are likely to interact with first - zombies, skeletons, cows, sheep, pigs - all drop stuff

>>575476902
I like games where you get to break the balance once you've beaten the story

>>575463153
Recipes are unlocked based on something happening in the game, usually a specific item type from the recipe being obtained, but it can be other things, like going in water unlocking the boat recipe, or getting a stone pickaxe unlocking the torch recipe (this one's dumb).

>>575463318
Just find a large iron vein, it's not that hard.

>>575476902
>>575478408
its basically necessary for doing big builds or playing on a spread out server. its definitely overpowered for some playstyles, but a requirement for others

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/hive-of-harmony
what in the nether is this

>>575476902
You control the items you equip.

>>575479529
>its basically necessary for doing big builds or playing on a spread out server
It's really not. Me and my buddy are primarily using a Nether iceway system for quick travel, and are building a surface horse road (20k blocks and counting) to connect out bases with world spawn just for fun. All this time the elytra has been disabled outside of the End.

>>575476902
proposed elytra nerf
>Remove the ability to use rockets with elytra without a rare enchantment. This new enchantment will be incompatible with mending
>Buff the knockback arrows cause to the player when using the elytra, so you can still fly using arrows and skill
>Can still use the elytra to glid around from high places or wind-charge/ender pearl elytra launchers, meaning if you have some infrastructure set-up you can still fly easily
>Repairing items should not add to the overall anvil cost for that item, meaning you can use the rocket enchantment on your elytra, and keep it repaired with a steady supply of phantom membranes

>>575480716
you don't hate mojang enough

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>>575480716
Hilarious

>>575480716
They know who Bedrock's target audience is.

>>575480723
>just ignore it bro
If only it were that simple.

>>575482647
It really is that simple, thoughbeit

>>575480716
>LOOK AT ME!
>I'M GAY! I'M GAYYYYYYYYYY!
They are nothing without an audience.

>>575476902
Fix the other transportation methods first before ever discussing an elytra nerf

>Fucking CUSHIONS are better than minecarts now
>Horses are useless riding through forests because all the leaves
>>VERY useless now ever since the cavescliffs update where the terrain is all plateaus split with valley rivers, ground travel sucks
>Nautilus is tedious compare to just swimming
>Happy ghast is just a platform and garbage for travel
Only boats and bubble elevators are actually worth using

Much like villagers trading enchants, the elytra is just the cope system players have to deal with because mojang are too scared to redo/fix any old systems

i want a scarf that lets me run faster and jump higher
i want something like the lunge enchantment that lets me lunge farther and faster without using up all that hunger
i want a double jump

>>575487725
Horses, much like minecarts, require infrastructure. Clear out the trees, build bridges, and then you can ride back and forth with no issue. But also horses have become better for first-time exploration in the past year too, with improvements to leads and horses no longer preferring to drown when in water

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>>575488518
>Horses, much like minecarts, require infrastructure
That's exactly why they need buffs. Minecart tracks are the most time consuming and expensive thing to set up but they are genuinely the worst travel method. They don't even have utility like combining multiple together to act as a train to carry your storage long distances/from the mine. For such an iconic minecraft feature to be so shit is an embarrassment. Boats got reworked long ago when's it the minecarts turn?

>But also horses have become better for first-time exploration in the past year too, with improvements to leads and horses no longer preferring to drown when in water
Yep that's true. Those are good improvements. My gripe with the horses is mostly leaves making forest navigation terrible, imo you should clip through them while riding a horse.
The biggest problem in recent times though is the terrain. Too much of it looks like image related now, so horse travel is a massive inconvenience with you having to stop and bridge across every time. Horses before weren't so bad when all the terrain was rather flat but now the entire world is against them. Even without rockets the way terrain is now heavily favors elytra. You can jump off the cliff here and glide all the way down the river wey

>>575487932
A double jump and an air dash would make the game a lot more fun, though it would also make horses and other forms of transportation even less useful

>>575489973
personally i prefer personal augmentation a whole lot more to tedious entity based solutions to problems mostly out of convenience, but also as you said i think it's quite a bit more fun than just faster horses or faster minecarts for example. i love the elytra because of this for example.
there should definitely be a way to have faster minecarts, though. and perhaps an easier way to chain minecart chests and take them with you. technical minecrafters have found ways to send like a hundred of them full of shulker boxes of things down a piston-bolt network or something like that, but that's just not really feasible for the 99.9% of the playerbase. you should be rewarded for building infrastructure.

along with my proposed elytra nerfs (>>575481168), these are some other ideas for improving transportation
>Add a new minecart type or rail type using copper that speeds up minecarts to at least the same speed as an elytra with rockets, or maybe even as fast as blue ice boat roads
>Add the ability to link minecarts together using leads
>Add the ability to right click the furnace minecart to see how much fuel is in it and add more fuel
>Horses should be able to walk through leaves at their head height when you are riding them

>>575481168
>>575490972
never be a game designer

>>575491167
too late

>>575490386
Actually, what if you double jump also affected the mob you're riding? As a late-game ability, it would boost horses around the same time that the elytra tends to take over. It wouldn't help minecarts, but then they need a rework regardless

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>>575489973
Minecraft in general lacks a lot of cool trinket type effects like terraria. It's very barebones in terms of having different playstyles here
They could add a bunch of rare trinkets like modpacks do but yo u're limited to equipping 1, totem of undying can go there too instead of your offhand. They can have these scattered around all the various structures, dungeons, trial chambers, bosses in minecraft to get people to go explore again. Armor trims or music discs aren't motivational at all but if your chase was a poison immunity charm or double jump scarf or crab claw with +1 reach, that would be worth hunting for

>>575491609
That would be really good actually. Oh, and there's already a framework for a dash ability on a mount, see the camel that absolutely nobody has ever used since the day it was added, so throw that on horses too if you've got some way to dash yourself. All that and if you can breed yourself a fast horse that jumps high naturally and you might have something of a useful mount.

>>575491814
The problem is that some of that stuff is already covered under potions, and potions are already woefully underdeveloped. I'd rather see them rework alchemy than add trinkets that have similar effects

>>575483132
the cult starves without giving it attention

>>575491167
what's wrong with my ideas?

>>575489680
>My gripe with the horses is mostly leaves making forest navigation terrible, imo you should clip through them while riding a horse
You already do, if you ride under a tree in such a way that your head is inside leaves you don't suffocate. The problem is horses can't fit into 1 block wide gaps so sometimes they get stuck between trees

>>575492089
Potions and enchanting are a neglected system yeah. If you throw in trinkets as well you can have the fantasy trio of tools to do all sorts of fun effects with. Minecrafts lacking that kind of playstyle customization aspect, everything is too samey, the most you can really do is use a trident or spear
With something like a double jump scarf you could do a mace playstyle. +1 reach crab claw could let you use a spear playstyle or be your go to building set up. A hunger charm could let you eat rotten flesh for food making use of that
Enchanting can introduce more impactful ones like tree feller which would be incompatible with others like efficiency to remove the one size fits all enchanting we have thus far. Bow infinite/mending do this well.
The new potions for infesting/oozing are a good step to adding new interesting effects to them. You can pair slow falling ones with a double jump scarf to stay airborn longer for a bow/crossbow playstyle

The systems all intermingle with each other for synergy and playstyle differences. Right now they feel rather disconnected because potions/enchants are just universal generic effects rather than something to opt into

>>575491814
Those textures look cool, what are they from?

>>575494082
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/artifacts

I see it in modpacks a fair bit and they're quite fun effects. I like hunting for them

>>575489680
>My gripe with the horses is mostly leaves making forest navigation terrible
It's funny how Mojang pointed out that the tall trees are good for horse navigation (iirc, I don't remember where) but they're not doing anything about other forests.

>the most active /mcg/ has been in ages and its discussion of software licensing for mods

>>575500589
Not like anything is happening.. They haven't even fixed the dappled forest having such bad spawns or added the new juan mob. It feels like minecrafts just been frozen for a few years in terms of content

would you say you hold modded builds to a higher standard or lower standard than vanilla builds, in general? not that it really matters and i know this is the vanilla general and all, but just wondering.

>>575501384
if it looks good it looks good

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>>575501384
I'd expect it to be higher quality as you're given more tools to make use of in modded, sometimes even vertical slabs or actual furniture mods. Vanilla you kinda just have to "make do" with what you've got so you need the skill to iinterpret them in your vision.
It's why you can make builds look better with shaders in vanilla, you're given extra tools with the shaders helping

but like the other guy said, if it looks good it works. it's not a competition on who makes the best build

>>575448886
aether portal never ever
>>575449525
Your in-game companion hints about there being fishing soon after the tutorial, and completely satirizes the entire thing throughout the game, making fun of this mechanic in other games. The minigame itself is also a fucking joke, where you basically toss a talking dildo into the water for junk crap to collect

>>575501269
If you add up all the drops from 2025, that makes a huge update, just smaller than the nether update. 2026 will be like that as well.

>>575501384
Sort of like >>575502203 says, I think for me it depends on the mod. If it adds like, maple wood, juan, and that's it, then I'll judge it with basically the same standard as vanilla. The more expansive the mod, the more it ranges from "you have some extra tools to work with" to "this is a different game".

If it looks good, it looks good, and ultimately it's a game to play for fun, not a block building esport, but just for the purposes of comparison I'd never hold something made in vanilla apples and apples next to something with, say, chisels and bits

>>575504493
They have nothing to do with each other though. If a year's drops were one big update split up into four smaller releases, that would be vastly preferable to the current system of four disconnected morsels of slop that don't deepen the game in any meaningful way

>>575501742
>>575502203
>>575504512
fair enough, i figured the same and was a little more daunted by it compared to just building in vanilla. but i think approaching it with mostly vanilla blocks + a modded wood type or stone type would look nicest anyway, slopes and chisel and bits are a little too autistic for me and if you include them the build better look amazing. again, not like it really matters as i'm mostly only building for myself and want it to look good for myself, but yeah.

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>>575480716
>A diverse community is vibrant – stronger, healthier, and more protective of its members, just like a bee colony.
Fellow bees we MUST let wasps into our vibrant colony trust me it's NECESSARY for our survival

>>575480716
>All you have to do to assign new colors to a bee is crouch and feed it a specific flower and it’ll turn into a Pride bee
uhhhh Mojang? I thought kids-I mean bees were just naturally gay and trans? What do you mean you have to do something to MAKE them troon out?

>>575435407
>yet there weren't any
lol, ok newfag

>>575501384
Lower because 99% of mod players can't build for shit and just bikeshed with mods in the meantime
>T. have been chasing world gen mods for almost 6 months because i refuse to just use Tectonic + Geophilic like a basic bitch, playing more in creative than anything else by this point due of that

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>>575500589
You're welcome.

>>575508582
can you give me some suggestions or at least a place to start with for 1.20.1? i hate worldgen mods that use purely vanilla blocks if they're going to put shit like yellow concrete or dead coral where they really shouldn't be. i don't mind a little bit of item bloat, it's modded.

>>575501384
>>575504870
For me it's not that I hold modded builds to a higher standard, but that I'm usually disappointed with modded builds. Meaning that I think a build can always be achieved in Vanilla through other means, and that I rate such Vanilla builds higher than the same builds but modded. Examples of that would be mods that add sloped bricks, or mini bricks. I feel modded builds lose a lot of their soul. I think it only works for me if a mod adds a function and then the build is made traditionally around that function

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>>575491814
>to get people to go explore again
That's what's missing from the game, IMO. I think mods like End Remastered help with this.
ER makes it so you have to collect unique "eyes" to open the End Portal, so you have to travel.

Now the problem is that it keeps stuff like the elytra behind a huge grind. I'm the anon who complained about the elytra earlier, but it doesn't mean I want to take mobility away from the player.

So here's what I'm thinking, and I'm just spitballing here: we need to reward exploration. Gaining access to the End isn't enough. It's lackluster.
I propose a flying machine.

We keep the elytra behind a huge grind (the End Remastered mod), but in the meantime the player can build a small contraption to fly around.
It needs to be gimped somehow, so the more "eyes" you get, the better it becomes. Also it needs fuel.
Maybe at first it can only be used for a couple of minutes. Maybe it can't go above Y50. Things like that.
But the more eyes you collect, the higher you can go. The longer it can run.

So the longer the player plays, the more he explores, the stronger he becomes.
It also creates situations where you WILL have to land. Emergent gameplay, folks.

I dunno.

>>575510987
Why do you NEED to fly?

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>>575511923
It's fun?

>>575509662
Check for compatibility, if two mods touch the same noise regions/parametters, the one that Forge magically loads first, wins, resulting on things like Cascades + Tectonic working "fine" but the biome placement goes through the window and you have huge "autumn forest" areas that are actually just stone hills and a river with seagrass. A classic good enough choice for everyone is Tectonic + Geophilic, big enough landmarks and underground rivers to impress everyone.

My biased answer, Moderner Beta is full of untapped potential, the default presets are good, but if you were skilled enough, you could create something beautiful combining parts from the best eras of Minecraft. Cascades + Continents is IMO the best "lite" worldgen available right now, easy on the CPU, interesting terrain and landmarks, though overshadowed by bigger mods if you want something breathtaking.

Terralith's still fine, but i never liked it personally. Not only because of the ugly blocks but also cause Tectonic already has good enough landmarks on its own and is compatible with other shit.

Regions Unexplored is the new Biomes O Plenty basically, smaller scope more polish, works fine with Tectonic, or at least couldn't find anything remarkably ugly, only thing i dislike are the cave biomes, because i don't like the colors. Oh The Biomes We've Gone (hate the name of this serie of mods, annoying to type) also exist, is like Regions Unexplored but with more fantasy terrain. Personally i don't care about it, neither like it nor dislike it.

You also have some over the top shit lik Big Globe, TerraForged, Conquest Reforged (make the terraing big, trying to mimic real world landscapes) Stratospherical Expansion (floating islands++)

Two small grassroot projects that have a chance of catching up some day are Terrestria and Ecotones. Sit around the middle of the road between Regions Unexplored and O

I haven't played survival since 1.14 so you can take my opinion with a grain of salt. But I feel like either the elytra should be glide only, or maybe a one time fireworks launch that resets when you land. Or there should be something inbetween like a parachute that lets you glide. The parachute shouldn't be easily obtainable, but easier than the elytra

>>575516297
>cum cube
>boat
>pig
>spear
>potion of slow falling
There's your hard to get parachute

the elytra genie is out of the bottle, either play a previous version or just choose not to use it.