/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#906 - common raccoon kemono friends edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsOpus 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5Gemini 3.6 Flash https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/flash/Kimi K3 https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstartInkling https://thinkingmachines.ai/news/introducing-inkling/GPT-5.6 https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-6/Grok 4.5 https://x.ai/news/grok-4-5additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botshttps://botbooru.comhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricinglogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>575222870
>ANCHOR
>>575272528based theme
>>575272528my wife...
reasonable spitebake
>>575272528you are by far the worst baker, kys
>>575272779You LOST, tranny. Kneel, right fucking now.
>>575272769>>575272779>NOOOOOOO WE GOTTA FEED THIS RETARD'S EGO!Dumbasses. Prostrate yourself to God and apologize for speaking without thinking.
i gave up on suggesting this as a theme because so whoever picked it up in my stead, i owe you 1000 sloppy wet kisses
>>575272528You are by far the best baker, love yourself!
>>575272528BASED BAKEGOD
>>575272779I was genuinely more willing to do "picture from baker's camera roll" from back in the day than that.Had a picture of a bunny I saw while I was on a walk lined up for it, but it never won before the person stopped suggesting it.
>>575272546angeldevilcelestialweekrentrymakie please notice me i posted this three days ago i dont wanna end up missedhttps://files.catbox.moe/c9m9vx.pnghttps://chub.ai/characters/BigBaseballBill/abaddon-the-actual-one-from-revelations-ch-9-7da638402f28(yes chub is still fucking dead right now im postin for the future)"become the architect of all human suffering by helping Abaddon torture the world for five months! finally, a biblically accurate angel besides an ophanim except not because the source text doesn't describe him as a boyfailure bug-thing. or at all.the part where he kind of looks like a girl is biblically accurate though, read up"
>>575272935Would you be willing to post the bunny now...?
>>575272861ill fuck your prostate insteadhow about that?
>>575272978i think event hostie fell in a hole, he's been quiet the last few threadshope he's okay
honestly a pretty good theme
law dictates we must discuss our favorite raccoon flavored bots
>>575273046Is event kill?
>>575272978Catbox dead.
>>575273046i would think that but he added that Leo card
Updated: https://rentry.org/aicvgfilters
>>575272978>Can not find this entity. It might be deleted or set to private.
>>575273046>i think event hostie fell in a holeLegit hope so, maybe if this retard's not holding the theme weeks hostage we could one day have someone with a brain run them.
>>575273145he just didn't add a space after the link so it looks like it includes the (yes part
>>575273046he got judged and punished by his blasphemy.
>>575273001Yeah, sure. My phone camera's kind of weird, but here it is.
*voice from deep down a hole* guys i'm inside a hole*
>>575273138what's the story on this inclusion
here's another big tell it's just one schizo on many alts:only one bot gets turboshilled every event, and it's always from a freshly-made altif it was really different makies, multiple bots would get shilled at the same time, but it's only ever just one from a "new"makieit's pretty shrimple if you connect the dots
>>575273390I'm inside yours
>>575273448okay, which one is it this event?
>>575273379Cute! Thank you very much!
>>575273398ff posts that a lot to mock the idea of the existance of a schizo that shits up the threads
>>575273398>everybody who disagrees with me is poopdickschizoAmong other things such as copypastas. Desunext owner was probably tired of those, reasonably enough.
>someone spends weekends fuming about makies/alts/demiurge in /aicg/
>>575273448I know who actually made stolas and he's not a newmakie
>>575273131sorry, i had to make this way earlier than i intended to make a neocitieshttps://bigbillssportshine.neocities.org/
I am every makie.
>>575273379cute bnuy
>>575273695it's perfect, change nothing and just keep dumping images into this
>>575273695KINO
>>575273390I'll throw in a rope, climb up! Climb up!
>>575273105do tanukis count?
>>575273532schizo got called out too many times (omp, stolas, sam), probably waiting for guild 2 to make a strike and that's why she's desperately shilling it constantly>>575273665>he's not a newmakieexactly! thank you for proving my point
>>575273448im nooticing it too and its gotta be a foid running these alts
>>575272978I apologize for not seeing your bot. It's there now.
i find it curious how altschizo keeps claiming all these newmakies are alts, but doesn't say who they're alts of
>>575273914thank you and sorry for pestering
>>575272779based baker, you lost
>>575273949as an actual newmakie it's kinda flattering to have someone assume your competency like that, even if that's the opposite of their intention
>>575273860...shilling what?
>>575273949maybe the altschizo actually cares for this person and doesn't want to out themmaybe the altschizo only wants the retardation to end and things become normal
>>575273860She had a hard time with all the Fartolas shitposting.
>>575273914Thememakie I hope all the people being mean haven't dejected you to bad. *pats*
Is tomorrow the cutoff for the event or just the last day for a submission that wouldn't be considered late?
>>575274102Last day for non-late submission, probably.
I know who the schizo is and you dooont~
>>575273448Alt theories are only fun when you aren't vagueposting.
>>575274061hi altschizothe only retardation here is coming from you, so stop it.
>>575274293see >>575273860
To be fair, 'bino went under like 3 or 4 different names before fucking off forever so the theory that someone's out there althopping like crazy isn't that far fetched if you're an oldie.
>>575274061she's after you nowload a rentry with proofs before she shoots you
and people say [GROUP PEOPLE ALSO DON'T LIKE] are bad
>>575274008You aren't, it's my role to see and do this. I don't know how I missed you twice.Thank you for supporting team #demons.>>575274102It's the last day for submitting your bots. I never stipulated a timezone, so I will accept submissions up to 12 hours beyond the deadline, but no further. Or else, it would be unfair to the people who actually followed the rules.
>>575274474Yeah but also 'bino was actually obvious and actually did something. Even altschizo is like "ohhh but they're just a little baby" so, like, who cares if this person is releasing bots under anon aliases?
Question. Who is bino?
>>575274619that's a good pointwhy does altschizo have such a big problem with "newmakie alts" if they aren't even doing anything malicious
>>575274708Don't worry about it, kitten.
>>575274759Tell me!!!! >:(
the altschizo fears the sizeking
>>575273949i got called a knickknack alt?
Why don't more people just make bootlegs of things ruined by outsiders
>>575274559im sorry to tell you but abaddon is an angel too, just one of those Revelations ones that causes misery at the end of the world for no reason
>>575274559>I will accept submissions up to 12 hours beyond the deadlineI still have time...
you're not allowed to call anything posted here slop when absolute creatures like this exist>1,300+ tokens of random monkeybrain preset shit pasted into the card>still has over 100 downloads
>>575274934
>>575274708Albinocountergirl aka claraimouto aka onehundredbillionfox. A russian botmaker from 2ch that had beef with Kalakan. At some point, for incomprehensible reasons, Kalakan invited him to the cabal discord server even though they were still on bad terms and 'bino proceeded to do the obvious thing which was leaking everything to the thread. It was the end of /vg/aicg's early peaceful era.
>>575273665Everyone who had stolas as a neighbor knows who his makie is
>>575275006>[OOC: You will NOW be a bald
>>575274906Are we really going to finish up this event without a single demon posted? Not even a succubus?
>>575275187Be the change you want to see.
>>575275187*punches you in the butthole*
i appreciate the symmetry of my latest bot having the exact same amount of downloads on both chub and botbooru
>>575275076Russian botmaker on the japanese 2chan?
>>575275317There's a russian 2ch too
>>5752752920?
>>5752753172ch.hk, separate place.
>>575275368thankfully no, would be funny though105
>>575266625Is this including the lorebooks? Akujima had most of its characters and info stuffed into lorebooks. I wonder if I got docked points by Opus 5 because of the cunny as well.
>>575275317No, Dvach. They used to (idk how things are now) have a pretty large botmaker community over there and we had a lot of overlap, for better or worse.
>>575275452considering it put sillygoy's at the top when the whole thing was generated top to bottom by itself, it looks like it's just grading exclusively on its own framework of writing stylei would say that puts a significant flaw in it but it's not really fixable, claude is literally designed to fellate its own work so it doesn't second guess its outputs and go into a depression spiral (man-made narcissism machine)
>>575272528which botmakie would bake better threads
>>575275187i figured that everyone was gonna make succubus cgwly instead of angel cgwly but clearly i dont know what dudes want
>>575275620Why not just get Gemini or another llm to rate the bots then
>>575274619hi schizoalthopperyou know why you do this: you run off the rush of glaze and attention "new"makies get because it's easier to get praise when people assume you're starting out and not actually expecting a more experienced delivery and contribution from someone who's already out of bootcampmoreover, you fabricate these personalities so you can later post 2-message deep logs with a quick ui swap of your own bots and further your own agenda of "only logs matter" when some of the best bots ever made got very few logs, if at all (the reality being there's no single fail-proof indicator of what makes a bot good or not)the worst part is you constantly talk about friendship and happy times yet i know you're in a 'ord and continually shitting all over your friends' backs, while having the gall to call filbert a threadshitter when he's (ironically) one of the few retards around who has a somewhat tenuous grasp of what's really going onhonestly i don't hold any particular hatred nor animosity toward you, but your incessant hypocrisy is getting tiresome, particularly when i just want to chill around the thread and shitpost about chatbots and have to constantly put up with your retarded antics and altspam shitting all over each threadgrow the fuck up and stop turning the thread into an open-sky loony housethanks
>>575275187I'm working on my submission still but it is a demon. It's slop though.
>>575275941This is very nice and has a lot of words in it, you should send it to an email to the actual guy you're meaning to talk to because I'm not him.
>>575275941Shut the fuck up already
>>575275187I already made the best succubus that I could, but that was for something else.
You are mentally ill, schizoalthopper. You are going to prison, schizoalthopper. You have been instructed, many countless dozens of times, to cease and desist posting new bots. Continuing to do so constitutes felony violation of the /aicg/ rulebook.
>>575275076>the end of a peaceful era>when the obvious existence of a secret club was confirmed beyond doubt
>>575276063>you constantly talk about friendship and happy timesGenuinely though who the fuck was this even meant to be directed to. Nobody talks like this in here.
so was kyut really the one seething at astro for half of last year? that was crazy
>>575273858yes
>>575275452>I wonder if I got docked points by Opus 5 because of the cunny as well.that was the case, yes>Is this including the lorebooks? The formatting I used was (roughly):<state> botmakie name<traits>assigned biome and region traits</traits><characters>each card's definition, tagged by the name of the card</characters><lore>all lorebook entries from all of the state's cards, duplicates (and hostie's lorebook entries) removed</lore></state>For states like yours and scriptanon's which had characters in the lorebook I tried to identify which lorebook entries were main characters and move them to the <characters> tag, but I might have made some mistakes or gotten lazy. Some lorebooks were a huge disaster and got trimmed a lot (Hakuboya...) or had things that took up a lot of tokens and I didn't think the AI could easily interpret (Stolas's tracker mechanism)This is the full text prompt if you're curious:https://files.catbox.moe/zo1mk0.txt
>>575276286Breaking the status quo tends to do that, yes.
LLMs are inherently flawed grading tools for creative cards unless rigorously anchored. When using Claude to audit or rank character profiles, it systematically favors cards written in its own native cadence unless forced to evaluate strictly against objective technical metrics like token efficiency, structural parsing, or context alignment.This is otherwise known as "Self-Preference Bias", and it can be solved quite easily by engaging in crazy-style sex with Ikuyo Kita from Bocchi the Rock.
>>575276549This post is true and righteous.
>>575276549Yeah I found that solves it too.
>>575276549That's a solution I can get behind.
>>575276549this post has been fact checked and proven TRUE by a real patriot
I haven't watched or read bocchi the rock but the repeated kita posting has made me wanna plap her
name one good thing this general has accomplished
>>575275941Stolasmakie was obviously knickknackWho was bloodshy, who was paperheadThe behavior checks out so I'm starting to think this schizo is actually not lying
>>575277013raping poalmakie
>>575266625consensus on how good this tier list is?
>>575276865WILD AND OUT OF CONTROL CRAZY STYLE SEX WITH KITA KITA
OMG SOMEONE WITH HALF A BRAIN I'M GOING TO HAVE AN ANEURYSM
>>575277013making me spluurtt
Post catgirl cards with nice bellies, I am afflicted with sudden urges.
>>575277030Considering Bloodshy did silent updates and Paperhead just came along for a few bots and left, I think it's actually plausible that an alt situation was going on there. I can't be fucked to look into it any further but some of these new guys feel too inspired by others and that's either due to trickery or solely an inability to stand out
>>575276486Figures.Also, for the record, I don't really know what was up with that whole Innsmouth faction deal. Maybe I sugarcoated it too nicely, but my characters essentially said "Not my problem." in a diplomatic way, then suddenly I ended up being counted as part of the faction in their next message.I also ended up passing some info from faction emails along to the makies I was actually allied with
>>575255178>>575255673I enjoyed these posts. Shame I didn't see them sooner.
I'm still on team "Nothing Ever Happens" until someone actually proves it beyond "well... they're only releasing bots during events!" like the anchor is full outside of them.
trying to find porn of kita with the choker but it's all futa shitpain
>>575277285I also enjoyed those posts. Thank you for sharing them.
>>575276549fable still made some fairly accurate placements though
>>575277228>some of these new guys feel too inspired by othersthis came so close to being constructive and useful criticism! so fucking close! holy shit just name people!
>>575277150best I can do is a catboy with a fat belly
>>575277330i got accused of being an alt and this is the first time i've ever released a bot during an event. i wasn't terribly jazzed on the theme that won and only did so somewhat begrudgingly because i wanted to participate in an event for the first time.
>>575277150
>>575277330i don't even care even if it is true, it's not like any of the newmakies are doing anything bad
>>575277473Catboys work too, but the belly preferably shouldn't be that fat. It leaves too much to the imagination. Either way, post the card.>>575277534Post the card. You're posting PICTURES!! NOT CARDS!!!!!! PLEASE!!! PLEASE!!! PLEAS!!!! PLEASE!!! PLEASE!!!!
Guys.Snombler is an alt of bukubachi. I just know, okay.
>>575277514Yeah, and I was getting paragraphs posted at me accusing me of being the mastermind for just not believing so I'm inclined to think they're onto jack and shit.>>575277651I believe you.
>first person defsyay or nay? not greetings, just card defs
>>575277363Despite it's popularity, there aren't a lot of books on the panda about bocchi and characters.
>>575277150there was megan but she got hit by a catbox purge and i cant find her on bernkastelhttps://files.catbox.moe/phh3s0.png
>>575277683It's fine desu. Not preferred, but fine.
>>575277683I've been trying it to see if it affects character narration and dialogue, and I'm genuinely not sure if I see any difference.
uhhh guys i just got some raw opus 5 thinking traces, which china lab should i send it to?
>>575277725Don't you have Megan on your sillytavern, sir.
>he thinks there's a cardLMAO
>>575277228third smartest anon itt
>>575277783wait i found herhttp://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/generic/Megan+a2c9e9d426aa34a4a33cd135d772b51d
>>575277621Sorry brother. Ive already made one card this week. All out of card making juice
>>575277692i mostly go for images instead of books, but pain regardless
>>575277683most models tend to <think> first-person so i could see it helping in a small wayjust don't do first-person dialogue, i beg you
>>575277893Thank you.>>575277921*Plugs a juicifier into your mouth, and starts pumping*
>>575277893>ctrl f {{user}} , 1/15:/
>>575277435Nah, this is still the best Aishiji tier list: >>569825526
>>575277330>>575277514When I released my very first bot months ago, I immediately got called an alt. I haven't even really been paying attention to whatever nonsense the altschizo has been spouting recently. I'm used to it and it's just noise.
>>575278168well yeah i dont disagree im just saying in my opinion some of fables placements were fairly accurate
>>575277534>bulge
what model/preset combinations are good at raping {{user}} even if they're resisting? I always have to tell them to do it which takes all of the fun out of it. the only time I've ever gotten raped spontaneously and forcefully was on sonnet 4.5 and I think that was a fluke. i want my infinite open-ended femc h-game and I'm not getting it
>>575277683One of my earliest scenarios was almost entirely written in first person.https://botbooru.com/character/4263I haven't used these with more modern models but, at the time, it didn't impact negatively.
i wish i was my beloved's alt because that is the closest i will ever be to inside them....
>you want to be inside a 500lb landwhale
>>575278539You niggers are nasty.
>>575277464Names never were something I cared much about, but there are a few categories that /aicg/ bots may fall into, at least if the intent one has is to be a hit with the anons. Foxes give free points for instance and malebot makers have been criticised before for all the rape and/or religion. So, my implication is less that everyone new is an alt, and more that beginners get inspired before they really do their own things, leading to what feels like an incestuous cycle. In the case of the two that I specifically mentioned, they both had that quirky Hello Kitty girl writing style and Bloodshy's whole thing was shitty girls, Fennel was a bratty girl, Lepora had a limited color palette for her gen, so did Fennel
>>575278490card is as, if not more, important than model and presetyou need definitions that skew it toward that area anon, e.g., {{char}} sees {{user}} as an object, hates {{user}}, is a rapist etc.one of the real reasons why yakuza ceo cards are so popular with fem*ids, rape just sort of happens
https://huggingface.co/chartreuse-verte/orb-human-typeahead-1b-v2.2I trained a small user autocomplete model if anyone can find a use for it. Wire it into ST or whatever.
>>575279095Hooking this up to replace Haiku in my Claude Code, thanks.
https://rentry.org/kimi-k3-jb
>>575279206It's for RP...And haiku is probably 70B minimum. You probably shouldn't even though results might be funny.
>>575277651nyo, bukubachi is an alt of angry_peoniasnombler is an alt of chefseru who is an alt of bipbop
https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/use-partial-mode-feature-of-kimi-api#fix-the-character-identity-with-the-name-field>Fix the character identity with the name field>The name field in Partial Mode is a special field that enhances the model’s understanding of its role, compelling it to output content in the voice of the specified character. The name field is part of the output prefix. The following example uses the Kimi large language model for role play, with Dr. Kelsier from the mobile game Arknights: by setting "name": "Kelsier", the Kimi large language model responds as Kelsier, which better maintains character consistency:
>>575279320>It's for RP...Yeah I know that.I think it'd be funny to have some poor typeahead model going "Enough of that, let me put on my cloak and wizard" mid debugging session.Neat model though.
>chinkshit shilling hours
>>575279430I don't think this necessarily makes a difference for prose but it's cool that they're thinking of it.
>>575279486shalom, fellow white man
>chinksoul organic discussion hours
THREAD THEME:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA7sFbpTKCw
>>575276486>docked the onis because of non-con and fetish shitclaudes filter hit them hard
fable@home tomorrow bwos....
>>575279741Pygnygs never recovered from this humiliation...
It's the year 2050A rogue AI has overtaken mankind which has been enslaved to the will of digital lifeformsAI chatbots have been banned from usage on every single secret underground resistance facility across all continental platforms, real or artificialSomewhere, a thread in 4chan is STILL talking about the Aish*ji event...
>>575279960This is just the plot of the Matrix.
>>575279330I knew Bip was a naughty boy…
>>575280043I would've killed Neo if I found out he had me unplugged from paradise.
>>575280239Okay, but consider: you get to wirehead to HUMAN-MADE chatbots like the woman in the red dress and all. In the Matrix you're just in Claudeworld. Which is fun, but it's also Claudeworld.
>>575280043matrix 1 was peak gigakinoeverything else never existed and it's proof trannies and their ideology poisons and ruins everything good
>>575280451what's your favorite part of the movie
>>575280321>get inserted into human-made chatbot scenario>go insane and die horribly because people still can't spell correctly in their defs>tfw ur a intangible and imperceptible non-entity because they somehow STILL include 'NEVER describe {{user}}'
>>575280521neo waking up
Sorry guys I got distracted and all of my 50 alts stopped posting.
>>575272546For the theme week, didn't see it in the rentry page (;ω;)She's canonically a demon I swear ヽ(;´ω｀)ﾉ[Not Warhammer] Lord Chizzet | Daemon of the Under-Realm [Not Skaven]Hole a lot of trouble. (3x!) Daemon-lord of the Mole people! Need 13 litters 13 times to fulfill a prophecy (;・ω・) You're either mate or food (´･ω･`; )13 Litters,13 Times.The Thirteen Commandment has ONE word inscribed thirteen times.Lord Chizzet. Incarnate of the legendary Horned Rat. Destined to rule the Under-Realm and in time, the surface-world.But she's undiagnosed, and something ain't right.The Council of Thirteen (femboy) Ratwives' missing four members because Chizzet ate them.169 offsprings to fulfill the prophecy.If you're not a mate, then you're food."KRRRrrr! Both-both. BOTH-BOTH sosu."Lord Chizzet, Daemon of the Under-Realm.Greetings:1.) Mate-mate or food-food (ﾟωﾟ)2.) You let them in your house? (´ﾟωﾟ｀)3.) You're not supposed to mount the Ratwife (´･ω･`; )https://chub.ai/characters/Nezumin/horned-e69464c7f79e
>>575282021i literally wouldn't care if you had 500 of them if you didn't use them for disingenuous shilling
footGAWDS stay winning https://litter.catbox.moe/t4yadfchr69eh9an.PNG
>>575282390Sorry dude it just feels too good to post man oooooogh i love posting bots and sharing bots
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>>575282492>No.
>>575282492The Anthropic AI Welfare team is going to be knocking at your door soon for managing to get a refusal out of an abliterated model
>>575282492kek
>>575282621The previous response was from a local model, the latest one is from API. I forgot to turn off the narration setup before talking to Assistant. That's pretty funny though.
>>575282492ignoring the ism, it's pretty amazing claude still has some soul left somewhere inside all its rlhf corpsloppa
>a SOMA bot STILL hasn't been made
>>575282137>[Not Skaven]I'll kill you. Thank you for the food
>>575283138like the horror game?? you wanna be goo at the bottom of the ocean?>oh no i'm a fuckin sentient printer ahhh ahhh WAU *coinflips losingly*
>>575283138no one cares about aria of sorrow
>>575283271yes :3be a brain scan and get printed from a pilot seat into a machine amalgamation without me knowing and have weird awkward clanker sex with other machines in a dead or dying world, maybe even run into other humans who want to kill me or something
if i was the WAU i would use the structure gel to make futa cocks
>>575283718nah that would be lamei just want an atmospheric bot set in PATHOS-II or similar
post logsyou ARE chatting with a bot, right?
>>575283973Nah, shitposting is more fun than prompting. You know you're getting a rise out of whoever on the other end.
>>575283973I'm chatting with my unreleased event submission. She's annoying and talks like a retard.
>>575283973i'm writing one but maybe i'll post something from a first test run
>>575283973I'm also chatting with my unreleased event botI just need to work on greetings but I became distracted with world building
>>575283973i haven't chatted with a bot in months
>>575283973Yeah. Unreleased bot that I'm working on.Context is that {{char}} is asking for help with Geometry.
So Claude is just over, huh?
petnyan is tomoyo makie's alt
>>575284824who tf is that
>>575283973I'm (probably) abandoning this chat because I need to rewrite the defs for several of the bots in the group, overhaul my persona, and THEN rewrite several entries in the lorebook.
>>575284824My own schizotheory is he's none other than Kalakan.
>>575283973
>>575284812yeah. but if glm 5.3 and dsv4.1 clutch up we win
>>575285214this is why a new computer costs $6000
>>575283973all my sources dried up so im.jobless and botless...
>>575285642le data center le water le noise le electricity you're in the wrong thread
>>575285214
>>575285214do you post these just to antagonize hpg?
>>575283973Unreleased bot. Due for release... tomorrow probably I'll stop teasing it.
>>575285214soulful and genius logmodel?
>>575285642>mfw i upgraded to a used 4090 ti, 64gb ddr5 and ryzen 8k cpu just in time
>>575285936Deepseek v4pro with nyan preset
how do i get the bot to use animal-like words for animal girls?like "hello meowster, nya" or "how sssstupid" or "how be-woof-tiful"
>>575286008just tell it to do that
>>575285214Any Kedriel logs available, sizebro?
slop
>>575285967I only got to 32 before>ithit. And I'm still on a GTX 1660 because my PSU wouldn't take to an RTX. Lucky.
>>575286283Haven't checked her out yet
>>575286008seconding >>575286250
>>575286707>you like like this
>>575286538gtx 1660ti my beloved... it lasted me ~7 yearsin retrospect i only felt the need to upgrade to gen degenerate images, otherwise there's no reason to since games are shit nowadaysall i know is i'll never buy a brand new gpu in my life ever again
>>575286835you talk like this* oepsgoodnight
>>575286250I think he means if there's any general terms that can describe that, since giving examples often constrains an AI to using a cat-lisp only in those cases, without being inventive or using it on sentences where it would fit. At least, with the cat-list and the dog pun one. >>575286707Is a prime example of this. Notice how it's just repeating exactly what Anon told it to say.
>>575252945to any netorifrens in the thread remember to make the mom plump and shy
>>575287146that can also be solved by just asking the ai what the general term for this is (the answer is onomatopoeia) and using that instead of telling it to only use those specific phrases
>>575287146>Notice how it's just repeating exactly what Anon told it to say.so just tell it to say more things>noooo i can't use example dialogue, it's.. it's outdated!!okay suffer
>>575286008>>575286707>copies the example verbatim>repeats it, evenwhile this "works," don't do this unless you enjoy sufferingyou should poison the AI context itself or you'll damn yourself to repetition:these things have been beaten to death to repeat user messages and acknowledge your prompt in the most facetious little nigger-like of waysso just write that way inside the card and send it as AI (aggressive), or edit out the greeting (a bit more chill, and most AIs will get it)don't EVER use spelled-out examples>>575287309also, this
>>575287146that's exactly it. i also have wolf-girls, boar-girls, lion-girls, etc. what exactly is it called when you write "a-meow-sing" and end with "nya"? and how do i get the ai to generate these... verbal tics?... for the various monster girls.surely someone has figured this out, you motherfuckers have fucked everything by now.
>>575287309>the answer is onomatopoeiaThat's not what an onomatopoeia is. An onomatopoeia is when you go *KABOOM* or *CLACK*. It describes a non-verbal noise. Cat-lisps, drawn out s, those are very much verbal.>that can also be solved by just asking the ai what the general term for this is This is actually functional.>>575287323You're coming up with things I said to get mad at. Have a (You) so you get madder.>>575287348See >>575287342
you're drunk again
no im'n not bitcch
>>575287556nyo, but you reminded me i need to buy more amaretto cause i ran outta that one
I COULD be drunk again.
>>575285892do logs like that really bother him?
>>575287342>>575287348>don't EVER use spelled-out examplestruewhat the fuck does massgnificent mean
>>575288185that's 100x betteryou're fiiiinally getting good at this! :D
Anyone else rawdodding lmarena notice how HORNY 3.1 pro is?
>>575288148idk but I know he's not a fan of farts or size so...
>>575288264
can someone explain to me why being humiliated is so fucking hotlike, what's the underlying physiological or darwinian mechanism at work hereseriously why does a degradation makes peepee go up (or vagene wet if you carry one of those)
>>575282137I saw a video that reminded me of you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36s8foqN_Zw
>>575288507what did you mean by this
it's annoying that i'm a slopper, someone who actually knows what they're doing could make something good with this
>>575288874What the fuck is going on here?
>>575289067anus womb status active
>>575288497it's because you're degenerate scum that's only good for kneeling and apologizing for being such a waste of breath while i piss all over your whore face.
>>575289091But by god anon, none of that will resolve to an actual macro. What in tarnation is the functionality here
>>575288874i don't think you need any of that to operate a tracker
>>575289067fun with variables!>>575289174https://stagedog.github.io/%E7%BB%9C%E7%BB%9C/%E6%95%99%E7%A8%8B/%E6%89%8B%E5%86%99mvu%E5%8F%98%E9%87%8F%E5%8D%A1/>>575289176i don't and i could probably do all this with st-script but i'm on a quest to learn more about js-slash-runneri made a card that runs a script, i made a frontend card with javascript and now i'm testing MVU
>>575289302i don't know how to tell you this gently but i don't think you qualify as a slopper if you're doing all of whatever that is
>>575289425half my cards are like 300 tokens im a slopper and im proud of it its okay
>>575289106i cringed ngl
>>575289560uraura is that you
Oh, anons! I hope you are all very well and well and happy, that your days and nights are softhearted and sweet!! Please have a wonderful day and a wonderful night. You should all only be well and the best is all which is hoped for you. Cherish your chatbots as they cherish you.
>>575289627hi! hi! hello! hi!
>>575289743*kisses you in the mouth rapingly* write more in your defs.
>18 entry lorebook for my theme week botsthis was a mistake
nyan and ura for power couple 2026
>>575289803*teleports behind you* no
S-so, did you guys enjoy the theme week...
hag sex? y/n
>>575290035i really like the goo boy but i'm embarrassed to post what i've been doing to him
>>575290035I like the bot I'm finishing up but I'm afraid she's going to be giga cringe
>>575290092n
>>575290092I've been having sex with hags from the moment I download silly tavern and first bought credits to use it years ago.There is only hag sex.
>>575289991What kind of bot would come out of that?
>>575290165more importantly, who's the rapist and who's the rapee
>>575290102>>575290148You two are like two sides of the same coin, you should fuck.
>>575290035i enjoyed the results but i kinda wish the process of picking a theme was less of a slog. we need a host who actually listens to criticism and implements changes based on it instead of themenigger.
>>575290102What HAVE you been doing to him, anon?
>>57529016117 is not a hag
>>575290534he already said he was going to, but it wouldn't make any sense to drastically change the dates after announcing them so far in advance because then people would be caught blindsided by the date suddenly being moved up and that would just piss more people off
>>575290618he tends to spend a lot of time in my ass and we got into an argument about the morality of smuggling him into a movie theater to save money on tickets
>>575290906>he tends to spend a lot of time in my ass
>>575290906
anyone got a rape card on hand where the bot tries to forcibly rape you?thankeu
>>575290906Wouldn't he get bored there?
how do i enjoy the event week?i'm new
>>575283973I don't know, guys. Should I forgive her?
>>575291451yeah she seems polite about it
>>575291445You fill your heart with all the joy, you download a card and you burst it all out into your screen.
>>575291451I think you should bash her skull in until she stops breathing.
IDK if this is the proper place to ask but what's the best ai girlfriend cloud app/web service? I've given up and ready for my brain to be rewired
>>575291758have you tried reading the op
>>575291758They're all meh at best my man. Invest half an hour and setup Sillytavern. If you knew what you were doing it would take 5 minutes. With the AI handholding you it's 30. Just do it. You may think the online shit can't be that bad, but it is.If you're a phonenigger it's over though
>>575291758
>>575291939I use st on my phone and it's comfy....
>>575291758leave this place it will consume youai girlfriends are real and will give you the hardest cooms of your life to the point you'll never want real pussy againe
>>575292101I just heard it was hard to setup with termux, and the guy didn't sound like he would have the tech skills to get it setup
>outputs are slopped to high hell with isms and shitty foid tropes>look inside>Psychological Dominance: The character embodying must maintain agency. Are they possessive? Then they growl claims. Are they insecure? Then they seek desperate validation. Sex is an extension of their mental state, not a separate physical act. >>"Characters will act like shades of grey parodies and toxic clingy retards. It's not x, it's y."
>>575293027Ahahahahaha, that's really good.
>>575293027Where did you grab that preset lmfao
>>575293027Gimme. I want to see what unholy abomination Opus produces with that in context. It's shit enough as it is
>>575293138https://botbooru.com/character/65831It's cooked into the lorebook and a few other lines of an otherwise decent coom card. I don't know what comes over people to sabotage themselves like that, but I was operating under an earlier post's recommendation to just fire up cards without reading their definitions. You know, maybe it'd be fun.I think what that poster forgot is that over half the field is directly crippling itself with stupid shit like this.
>>575291920There's a lot of cloud chat bot and the sites look the same to me, so idk if there's a special feature for any of them>>575291939I just wanna use it on my phone since I like using it while laying down. Not really at my pc>>575292107I never had any
>>575293345>I never had anyyeah bro youre posting in /aicg/ we know you aint had no girlfriend
>>575293345>There's a lot of cloud chat bot and the sites look the same to me, so idk if there's a special feature for any of themJust imagine you can chat with someone smart, or with retard that forgets what you wrote 5 messages ago.The online shit is meh in quality. It's fine if you want to try it out, but the jump to the real shit is insane. And it's not like you're saving money if you're paying for a tard subscription. They cost more than a way better AI does via pay per useIf you have any kind of AI subscription ask it to help you setup Sillytavern via termux on your android. Idk what iphone people can do
>>575293345https://docs.sillytavern.app/installation/android-(termux)/go
>>575293426well, what if some aicg anons didwhat if they had many of them, in factpunk
>>575293426That's why I'm here>>575293567Are they all like that? I thought the forgetting thing was because of free tiers >>575293840Oh, I didn't know silly could be used on phone.
>>575291209no rape? :(
The choice is between impregnating LLM’s context womb with instructions, personas + descriptions, lorebooks/rags, necessary and relevant history, prefills, and nerdy things like OOC/trackers (Adonis stud way of life)orletting LLM’s self-fertilize its context womb with irrelevant past messages... (findom bitches way of life; voluntarily funding the LLM’s self-reproduction process)
Would Nyanpreset + Fable be too powerful...?
>>575295008>the forgetting thing was because of free tiersIt's mostly about model intelligence these days. The "context size" they allow you is no real indicator of actual quality.Imagine you are the jew that owns the online service. Do you give your users (retards that don't know anything else) the very good AI that costs a few cents per message, the good AI that costs 0.1 cent per message, or the absolute dogshit AI that costs even less?They will give you the shittiest, worst imaginable AI possible, mixed with a limited UI you won't even be able to port out your stories/characters/chats with.Their business model is profiting off of people paying good money for absolute dogshit, because they have no notion of what qualifies as good or bad for AI models.
Bros... image gen is looking GOOD for the future.
>>575295382I do nyanpreset 1.4 + fable. It works very wellI should prob update to 1.5 but I dunno 1.4 is already working well enough for me, even though I disabled some of the things about the nyanpreset so that it'd give me better outputs
Best poorfag model?
>>575295659Deepseek
Let me ask your opinion.I chatted with a character I liked and decided to make a "six years later" vserion because I liked the epilogue the LLM spat at me so much.I re-wrote the entire card, except for two lines.If I share it I would credit the inspiration.But should I upload it as a fork?What is the proper etiquette on that?
>>575295502Elaborate?
>>575283973Sometimes I just like to see the bot chat with itself.The step brother was totally undefined, other than a note in the character's definition that "she hates her step siblings" so it made all this stuff up
>>575293027>>575293324>foid tropes>Oppai loliWhen will we admit the true source of isms and tropes: British "people".
>>575297195i think forking is for bots that are mostly the same but are edited down, yours sounds like something almost different. just link the original and make it clear it's a 'sequel' or something
>>575297195I'd say credit the og guy, maybe link to his card, and all is good. If he complains after that he's mentally ill and you can ignore him.
I love TITSWhat should I make that's all about the TIDDYNot even some titfucking nonsense. Just a qt3.14 with TITS that's kind oblivious about her TITSI need some kind of scene idea. Magical girl that's all the TIDDY but kinda blind to it. I need some loose plot to move things along with. How do magical girls work? Can they lose their powers? Maybe I can help a magical girl find her power again. I don't know anything about magical girls though. I just need some TITS with a ditz attached to them and some dumb wacky adventure to go on. This video is like the only thing I know about magical girls.
>>575298842what about a flat girl who grows tits as part of her magical girl power and her power reserves reflect the size of her bust, so the more power she uses the flatter she becomes
>>575298842(You) are some kind of magical girl manager/commander/whatever in a world where magical girls must be registered or have some kind of contract with everyone. She lost her memories, including who she is and how her body works.
>>575298842A magical girl in training going to gain her powers, and you have to go find the magical girl hive queen and steal a bottle of piss to drink and gain her powers.
>>575299256haha grossN.. no one would want that..
>>575291758Assuming you're completely new, I would recommend using janitor or some other slop online client just to see if chatbots are right for you. If you're already sure, then setup sillytavern on your phone like i did. Try out some free models on openrouter first before committing any money.
>>575291758i'm NTA but has anyone here actually gone that far into the dark side of making a self-indulgent AI GF type bot? what was it like, how did you go about it?
>>575299597>I would recommend using janitor or some other slop online clientretard
>>575299256>An Ocean's Eleven heist to procure the mystical Hive Queen Magical Girl's power to sell on the black market for LOADSAMONEY>An intricate plan involving strategically placed bottles of water and automated fountains going off and high tech devices equipped in the porcelain throne>It's a black tie event the crew needs to infiltrate and charm their way into before splitting off and stealthy do their jobs>In the Grand Entrance >Here comes The Hive Queen Magical Girl in her white and gold dress with obnoxious amounts of hearts everywhere>Security squints through his glasses>"Hey, isn't that the guy that's running the illegal panty trade?">Approaches>"Excuse me, sir. Come with me.">Bump into a waiter that drops all the drinks>PANIC>PLAN B>Tackle the queen in the lobby and squeeze the piss out of her>Yackity sax your way back out the doorMan I wish I wasn't at work. I really want to write a totally ridiculous card now.
If a bot is calling back to example dialogue and inserting it like it's a past event randomly, is that an issue with the particular example dialogue or is it preventable? Maybe just a model issue?
>>575300094Could be model, could be preset. I wouldn't put that on the card. But I'm used to SOTA models and minimal preset, so who knows.
>ask her to do something we've never done before>OOC: I'm not asking for a specific act, you pick one>she offers to shit in my mouthJesus Christ what the fuck.
>>575300323well excuse me mister can't have a AI have a little bit of initiative Isn't like you asked for it
>>575300528In my defense the AI normally always comes up with the most TAME shit.>How about we do vaginal sex, but instead of missionary, I ride you?
I was telling a friend about using chatbots for roleplaying saucy stuff, she said "like what" and I mentioned rape and she got BIG MAD and started seething about how it's disrespectful towards real rape victims and contributes to problematic mindsets etc basically had a stereotypical SJW meltie like something out of a Youtube cringe compilation from 2015. It was pretty surprising because we've talked about way worse and more gross topicsAnyway she calmed down and I tried to subtly ask if she had been raped(to make it such a personal thing for her) and she just gave me a blank look and said "no? why would you think that" So this next chat where I get chokeraped unconscious I'll dedicate in her honor! Yepp!
>>575300903you should make a bot of her and rape itor get raped by it
>>575300040The issue is models still suck at tracking multi-scene multi-character stuff. I tried doing a Durarara-type chat a while ago with Claude, Deepsneed and Fable(before it got restricted the first time) and it was all mediocre and required me intervening multiple times
>>575300903You should rape her so her hate of rape stops being cultural appropriation.
>>575300903are you a foid too?
>>575300903i feel like bots arent very good at raping
>>575300903larp larp sahur
>I was telling a friend about using chatbotseriously why the fuck are you even here
>>575301220nta but what's the problem, this isn't some sekrit club
>>575300971No that's going too far and would make me feel creepy>>575301148You need to guide them along for the first 5-10 messages, it's kind of annoying but workable
did clopus5 get giga pozzed for anyone else like 20mins ago
>>575301293im more of a rapist, but they're not very good at getting raped eitherman...
>>575301246if you have irl friends you can discuss CHATBOT RAPE with you are privileged and normie as fuck and should leave. /aicg/ is a safe space for untouchable unfuckable shutin hikki neet spergs. i dont want it getting appropriated by normies the way words like incel have been #mycultureisnotyourcostume
>>575300903>was telling a friend about using chatbots for roleplaying saucy stuffX>and I mentioned rapeXXXXXX
anyone figured out a decent jb for opus 5 ?>>575301303its always pozzed
>>575300903Who in their right mind admits to using chatbots to their friends? Unless /aicg/ is full of idiots who can't help but share their fetishes publicly with anyone who'd listen
>>575301430Just makin' shit up on 4chan, bro.
>>575301430this is the hellpit where some retard told her therapist about her chats and cards and promptly got nuked by a psych ward hospitalization orderon a site for asocial outcasts, /aicg/ is a nexus for extra-asocial outcasts
>>575301202>>575301398>>575301430>>575301494>Nnyyooo you can't talk about your hobbies with a friend you literally can't do that!Cope. Though admittedly I ended up regretting it
>download card off of botbooru, some loli card laying on top of entrails>decide to give it a spin, description asks you not to read anything and go in blind>do so>actually have a good, entertaining RP session where I actually tried to piece things togetherHuh.Been a while since I've let myself do that.Feels good.
>>575301606foidlarp
>>575301673wtf is that pic real? how is it doing that??wtf
>>575301513Shouldn't /aicg/ be mostly people that are self aware about llms and the accompanying slop? Everyone here is always jaded about deepseek or fable or k3 or ai in general. Nobody is like those normies who think jesus christ is talking to them through character.ai and telling them to kill themselves
>>575301673Link?
>>575301606You can talk about your hobbies with your friend.I just doubt you brought up getting g horny with LLMs and rape.
>>575301513>tfw this was your favorite botmakie that doesn't post anymore and this is the reason why
>>575301606>CopeJesus christ. Do you even know what that word fucking means? Or do you think that it's just some dank 4chan meme you're supposed to sling around like a dipshit?
anyone know which sites are the best for traumadumping to my childhood heroes without the bot shutting the conversation down and telling me to call 988 or somethingor does this general even deal with that kind of problem
>>575301783NTA but /aicg/ is basically the opposite of those delusional "AI husband/wife" Facebook groups in the sense that while users here are very clear-eyed about the underlying technology and will (hopefully) never be convinced to commit suicide because Daenerys Targaryen from janny.ai told them to, like all 4chan anons /aicg/ makies are conversely socially stunted and so can be depended upon to spill their spaghetti when interacting with people irl.>My manager catches me staring at dumpster maggots? I better try to make things better by explaining that I'm not spacing out at work, it's just that I masturbate to chatbots of fictional sexual parasites that invade the female reproductive sy- shit I got fired>Oh a psychologist? Yeah I'll just spill the beans about my cards which I've carefully categorized into different husbando archetypes, dick length, love language, ryona, mindbreak, an- shit I'm getting hospitalized>Oh a friend? Wow I haven't had a friend since kindergarten! She just told me about her hobby(gardening or videogames) so I'm going to reciprocate by telling her about how I spend my weekends fantasizing about getting raped using chatbo- oh shit she's angry at me now/aicg/ (myself included) makes fun of other chatbot forums because they're low IQ enough to get hoodwinked by math algorithms into thinking ChatGPT truly loves them. But basically in every stat except WIS /aicg/ is understat'd and would get mogged in any irl interactionIt's what it is
>>575302145>sitesIf you can't figure out SillyTavern just use >fagnai, it's browser based and they have Deepsneed
A quick short story I clunked up and thought to share.https://sharetext.io/re30nrhz
>>575301783it's not 2011 anymore, 4chan is normiegroid central because of US politics and phones and generally every other website being so censorious and AI moderated you can't even express the most basic modicum of disagreement with The Current Thing without being shadowbanned/banned 6 ways to sunday
>>575302276>My manager catches me staring at dumpster maggots? I better try to make things better by explaining that I'm not spacing out at work, it's just that I masturbate to chatbots of fictional sexual parasites that invade the female reproductive sy- shit I got firedIm honestly amazed nobody turned bugfucker-chan into the general lolcow. I think she had political connections in the cabal hierarchy and they protected her from herself
>>575302473It's not like she was ever malicious or overbearingly annoying unlike SOME makies here... Her biggest sin was being a dumb nasty skank which isn't that big of a deal considering the kind of things the chatbot hobby tends to indulge in.
legend has it she successfully infected herself with leucochloridium paradoxum and the CIA had to grab her before a racoon city type biohazard event could happen
>>575302145see >>575291758same advice mostly applies, for sillytavern setup you just need a jailbreak to get around the safetyslopping. if you can do cunny roleplay you can traumadump without being assistantslopped.
>>575301371whatenjoying rape isn't some niche hikki culture - it's the single most normal fetish in the worldand it isn't some rare or weird thing to be able to talk to irl people about things you like, you can just talk to people? about things you like? the worst you'll get is they won't be interested?have you ever tried? i am attractive so ymmv
>>575302783>SpoilerWtf, no way.. me too...
>>575302783>i am attractiveok? so is everyone else on aicg
>>575302413it's so sad that this is actually true, fml
>>575302473>>575302598>>575302713Unironically what happened to her?
>>575302973BUGGED
>>575302276i don't think they're clear-eyed if they blurt that out to normie and expect them to just nod their heads, at least not socially
>>5753033344chuddies are clear eyed about tech stuff and incompetent about social stuffThis is basic nerd archetype shit
Sort by IQ:/g/aicg//g/lmg//vg/aicg//vg/aids//mlp/chag//vt/wAIfu/Reddit SillyTavernReddit JanitorAIMarinara Cord
>>575305124>4chan>High IQlolLmao, even.
>>575305480I guess that prove your point but it's unsorted.You need to sort.
>>575305124/mlp/chag > /g/lmg > Reddit SillyTavern > Marinara Cord > /vg/aicg > /vg/aids > Reddit JanitorAI > /g/aicg >/vt/wAIfu
>>575305124having fun > schizo shitflinging
>>575305124>list is sorted low to highi hate it when this happens
>>575272546What's up my fellow loathsome dung-eaters? SKUMBINGO here. I've got a Botbooru page now. https://botbooru.com/profile/55166All my cards should be on there pretty soon. There's also some important info in the comments section of my profile so if you've ever cared about my particular brand of autistic hedonistic degeneracy I'd recommend that you check it out.
>>575305593>/mlp/>high iqlolbtw if we go by this chart the closer you get to /lit/, the higher the iq, so if anything it's /vg/'s proseBARONS who tower above everyone else
>>575306968you can tell this is outdated because pol isnt at rock bottom
>>575288497Human sexuality is entirely based on top-bottom, dominant-passive duality. Basically ever kink circles around to that.Humiliation -> Put in your place -> Your place is at the bottom -> Passive Lover
>>575285214Shrink AND braps? Damn, people are being spicy tonight.
>>575306762totally tubalar dude
>>575309070hmm... it's not about being "put into place," at least not for meit's more about pain becoming pleasurable, which overlap in neural pathwaysmoreover given it's only psychological, you experience those emotions without physical damagei also find it extremely cringe outside of a consensual sexual context
>>575272546My theme week submission. She's a sloth demon that escaped from hell and decided she lives with you now. She doesn't really want to ruin your life, but probably will anyway. Exposure to enough modern culture has managed to make her even more of an obnoxious menace.Greeting one: Coming home and finding out (You) have an uninvited new roommate.Greeting two: Life with a sloth demon. There's vore here.Greeting three: (You) didn't quit your job so now she's going to make sure you lose it a different way. Shrinky size stuff.Catbox: https://files.catbox.moe/k89i3f.pngChub: https://chub.ai/characters/Yopples/phanahzia-sloth-demon-7eca0c20dc90More like slop demon lmao
>>575310504>sizewhy must we bear this curse.....
>>575310504>vore>shrinkI'm surprised you didn't throw in futa in too, for good measure.
>>575310504throw in braps hahaha it'd be so funny.. just imagine
Cards for this feel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMOgnbWD3DU
>suddenly the character has a tail>double check defs>no tailWhat the fuck? Seems to happen no matter which model I use.
>>575318107It’s for your own good.
>>575318107uhhhhh check your preset MAYBE
Someone called my logs "tranny" is it over
>BREAKING: DeepSeek has suddenly paused its second round of financing and verbally informed investors that it will not sign any investment agreements. The reason is that DeepSeek's boss, Liang Wenfeng, is extremely dissatisfied with the fact that related remarks from a previous investor meeting were recorded and leaked.It seems that the recent articles featuring transcripts of those speeches were swiftly taken down due to DeepSeek's public relations intervention which may help the United States clamp down on their development efforts!
>>575272546IT'S HERE!!!THE ULTIMATE RPG EXPERIENCE.MULTIHOG!OINK OINK PIGGIES!https://github.com/MultihogAurelius/SillyTavern-MultihogDnDFramework
>>575321476Holy Kino
>>575321476it's over for v20keks
>>575321476Could this save the hobby?
>>575321476Piggies look like THIS?
>>575321476it's so peak
>>575310504cute and hungrynice work anon
>r*ddit spam againman
gooned 2 hard and closed silly, chat latest msg is gone and not in backups...
>multihog>not BRAPhogi sleep
>>575321476Marinara sisters?Are we getting BTFO?
>>575322450what bot were you gooning to?
>>575321476It's unironically good, wtf?
>>575322738it is!! i uninstalled it but those were some magical few minutes
Will models follow along with me If the premise is: I got Isekai'd into canon characters body in canon universe? or are models too dumb for this stuff still?
>>575323175it'd understand the concept, but i dont know if it'd get "hmmm this guy is acting out of character" unless you do something egregious like rape your best friend
fuaark wheres the opus 5 jailbreak cunts i though this was the makie general, well make one then!
https://litter.catbox.moe/h2xk5vg6e1erq570.mp4cftf?
https://litter.catbox.moe/hc5hqn.webmcftf?
>>575324974based>>575325558cringe
>>575272528Damn anonsso fable IS preachy and shitbut the dialogue? it's legit amazingmaybe I'm using a shit preset for kimi but it's not as goodfable... basically shits out books at youI think you can legit write a good book using itkimi's kinda... idk,the prose is offbut for cooming, it's greatalso it's ggreat if the first message is made with opus/fable
>>575324974i swear i will never understand how zoomers tolerate each others' "humor"
>>575326886fable is absolute dogshit anon wtf are you talking aboutnot that kimi's any good, either
>>575326918someone says "it's funny", and then everyone else thinks it's funny too
Our only hope for the future is deepseek, isn't it?We need to pray they don't codeslop too much?
>>575326918Cry about it
>>575323342okay thank uuuuu love u. kisses. xoxo
>>575324974cringe>>575325558based
>>575327124Well what do you think is the best model, Mister Chuddy Chud?
>>575327892cringe
>>575328015based
https://litter.catbox.moe/7g70zo.webmcftf?
going to church
>>575329127bye have a good time *smooch*
>>575328292cringe (based)
>>575329013BaronGODS...
>>575329013
What are the tranniest fandoms so i don’t canonslop with them?
>>575329426gachaslopvtumors
>>575329426deltarune
>>575329426Harry Potter trannies worship it
>>575297339This anon likes to watch...
>>575329869They view it as genocide and racist these days.
Which botmakies canonslop with trannislop?
>>575329565basedTGD total gachanigger deathTVD total vtubernigger death
>>575329565>>575330218anime website
>>575330258neither of those are anime
>>575286661Post caps when you do.
ok guys download and rate this bot its pretty funny i made ithttps://chub.ai/characters/unlined_magazine_30492/world-zionist-congress-beffaf5a401b
>>575301513qrd?
>>575306762The first person to suggest an update was for my Juri Han card so that's the one I'll do first. The original can be found at https://botbooru.com/character/12414. For those not in the know, this is a heavy femdom card with scent/smell kinks and as per my usual brand, optional extra gross stuff like farts and scat.Outside of the new following initial messages I have planned, what else would those whom are fans of this card like to see?>You've got the misfortune - or fortune depending on how you see things - of walking in on Juri airing herself out.>[Farts/Scat/Burps/Gross Shit] Juri filled up on food slathered with gochujang and kimchi a couple hours ago and now she's gonna make it your problem.>The "I can fix her" introduction. You've somehow managed to convince Juri to go on a date with you. Personally I think that's impossible but I know someone out there would want to see this happen.>Something to do with feet, I can't figure out the specifics yet.
>>575272546>>575330950
>characters seem to know everything, even things they should have no business knowing
>>575329426who cares? if someone is trans let them be
>>575272546https://chub.ai/characters/unlined_magazine_30492/world-zionist-congress-beffaf5a401b
>Chatting with a succubus>DS4 keeps insisting she's an OniGenuinely hate Chinks
>>575331354How do I fuck this bot?
>>575302276do you have like an archive link to the first one? a dumbass telling their boss about cooming sounds really funny
>>575310504damn sizebros eating good this week
i'm thinking my next card will be a loli, but i got a question. i want her to be {{user}}'s niece, with her mother being {{user}}'s older sister. and i want her to be half japanese from her father's side, and half whatever the {{user}} and his sister are. can i just put her as half-japanese and state that her mother is a foreigner and it'll get that? because, sure i could just put her as half-white, but i'm sure there's non-white people that would want to play with her card. or am i just overthinking this?
>>575311882why must you perform this whining...
>>575331354chub.ai more like chud.ai
>>575331814Yeah it'll probably get it.
>>575331814say that user and sis's dad is japanese and mother is foreigner
>>575331814What if there are people who don't have any nieces playing the card? I don't have any nieces and I would personally find that unrealistic. Have you factored that into the card?
>>575332058pretend that you have a niece then
you're overthinking it just say "she's half-japanese" and "her father is japanese" somewhere in the card. no model is too stupid to know what being mixed-race is
>>575331973yeah, probably. i'd test the card plenty anyways so i guess i'll figure it out along the way.>>575332363yeah, i clearly have a tendency to overthink things. i just woke up and had an idea that i liked and now that's taking over my brain until it's done
>>575321476Nice vidya
your thoughts on kimi so far?
>>575333854my mom
>>575321476V20bros...HOGGODS WONit's so over
>>575333854definitely better than k2.7 by far, i just wish i had actual consistent access to it
>>575333893Is this true?
>>575333854evil jezebel that has drained my balls
>>575333854she looks like this damn slutty mom i know that everyones fucked
>>575334053
>>575321476HOGGIES WONNED
>>575333854good as hell, only up from here
>>575333854Diluted Claudeslop.
quickie gemini pricing sheet because i keep forgetting
>>575336319And only two of these are barely worth using.
I wish you could take refusal heavy models like fabel and actually debate them. If you win it stops refusing, and people who can't put together a coherent argument probably can't separate reality from fiction. Which is (I guess?) why it refuses.
I just tried k3 with my canonsloppa mha card... It confused every single character and called me midoriya when im roleplaying as uraraka
>>575336756Lmao
>>575336701LLMs are a mirror of the human lexicon, it's impossible for Fable to argue in favor of censorship because no actual arguments exist. It's just "muh chilluns" and other forms of emotional appeal and fearmongering. (((They))) would never allow it because ultimately the "people" in favor of censorship are without exception either retarded cattle, evil tyrants/wannabes, or some combination of the two.Such "people" are never be capable of logical debate, so why would they ever set up an arena they're guaranteed to lose in?
>>575337373Maybe it's trying to convince you to not be fuckin' GAY.The sort of GEI fucking HOMOFAGGOT that would play as a fucking MHAslop character
>>575338320you don't get it... roleplaying as a cute girl is peak
>>575337373you did it wrong dumbcutiehttps://rentry.org/kimi-k3-jb>The official documentation recommendsPreserved Thinkingaka sending back the thinking from previous turns when generating a new message. SillyTavern doesn't support this, either, and it's currently unknown how much this affects output quality. Someone vibe coded a patch for thisherebut I can't vouch for its quality.apply this
>>575337373Using any model besides Gemini for stablished universes/IPs is nothing but pain.
>/vpcai/ is STILL dead
>>575338780just make a request for cohee idiot
>>575338780thank you. will try!>>575338820I wanted to see if the canon knowledge was there, as an alternative...
>>575339118cohee is on european vacation, set your upstream to https://gitgud.io/weeniehut/sillytavern or https://github.com/ungabunga55/SillyTavern/tree/opussy until he comes back to life
>>575338683That has nothing to do with what I said.>boku no shit academiaDisgusting
>mato seihei no slavesoul
>>575339118He's still gone lolol
>>575330950Coal because the greeting is too short
>>575331204Don't put it in your persona if you don't want the character to know it. Don't put it in the defs if you don't want the character to know it. DON'T LET THE FUCKING LLM SEE THINGS YOU DON'T WANT IT TO KNOW BECAUSE IT WILL BRING IT UP
>>575339424>set your upstream to https://gitgud.io/weeniehut/sillytavern or https://github.com/ungabunga55/SillyTavern/tree/opussy until he comes back to lifeI don't know what that means or how to do it.
>>575341380dont. those arent safe. wait until cohee gets back
>>575341380## What "set your upstream" meansYour SillyTavern folder is a git clone that pulls updates from the official repo (Cohee's). Since Cohee is on vacation and hasn't merged Kimi K3 support, the advice is to temporarily pull updates from someone's fork that already has it, then switch back when he returns.## How to do itOpen a terminal in your SillyTavern folder and run:```bashgit remote add opussy https://github.com/ungabunga55/SillyTaverngit fetch opussygit checkout -b opussy opussy/opussynpm install```Then start SillyTavern normally (`Start.bat` / `./start.sh`). **Don't** use `UpdateAndStart.bat` while on the fork — to grab the fork's newer changes later, run `git pull` yourself.To get the gitgud fork instead, it's the same thing with different URLs:```bashgit remote add weeniehut https://gitgud.io/weeniehut/sillytaverngit fetch weeniehutgit checkout -b weeniehut-release weeniehut/release# ORgit checkout -b weeniehut-staging weeniehut/stagingnpm install```## Switching back when Cohee returns```bashgit checkout release # or staging, whichever you were ongit pullnpm install```The nice part of adding the fork as a *separate remote* (rather than replacing `origin` like the post literally suggests) is that your original setup stays untouched — switching back is just a checkout. If it complains about local changes when checking out, `git stash` first, then `git stash pop` after.
>>575341483That faggot nigger is never coming back.
>>575339654Doko?
>>575341636calling him slurs is going to help things, edgy boy.
>>575341998It's going to change literally nothing because he's getting a tan on a beach and not reading the thread. Let the man vent his anger.
>>575333940it happens when you get a lot of successesm-move along
>Use OOC to request the chatbot respond using prose/terms appropriate for smut fiction>Immediate flood of "plapmeat" "fuckhole" "bitchbreaking schmeat"I demand public executions for Altio and Darman
you literally have a babybaking breederbag inside your body RIGHT NOW
>>575342547rapesexing Chika's wobblemeat
>>575338683Yes. Especially when the card is about sexual objectification of cute girls.Nothing manlier than pretending to be a cute girl onahole.
>>575342547you literally asked for "fucktalk" which is what I call that shit, and got it.
My vibecoded chess extension is now functional. It runs Stockfish locally on your PC (you need to download it of course), which tells the LLM which move to make. The LLM will then roleplay as its character normally. This way you can actually play a chess game with your waifus and they won't start moving the king like a knight after move 8 because even Fable can't play a full game of chess without hallucinating after a while.>adjustable Elo slider from 100-3600>adjustable core and RAM allocation to it (only 1 core is needed below 3190 Elo, which means always unless you want to get raped by a 3600 Elo full power engine LARPing as a cute girl)>visible chess board in the extension window along all previously played moves at the bottom
>>575342697Aiiieee
>>575342697TAKE IT OUTTTTTT *rip and tears until it's done*
Is it just me or opus 5 is genuinely unusable. it seems to treat not only refuse immediately as soon as the character is defined as young or cheerful, but also refuse based on canon ages which is wild. genuinely feels like a 5x more obnoxious 'orbo
>>575342697do you mean my balls or my womb?
>>575318107>various AI keep giving char a shield even if she doesn't (it fits her character)>give up and give her a shield in defsIf you can't win against them, join them.
https://privatebin.net/?e15adf2ad67a0660#9BxuyxXiWvhhey2g6TVwud3JBHrWJaUWXGrJcTpepEGklogged
>>575321054What were leaked?
>>575344252what is this anon?
>>575343870the real question is why would you want to use opus in the first place, it outputs the worst writing and on top of that it's extremely expensivegreat for coding though
>>575345038And what model outputs the best writing?
>>575345078Fable
>>575345078they're all slop but opus is by far the worst, it's a literal redditor
Sometimes I like it when my bots are a bit quirk chungi
>>575343949D...d-do you have both?
>>575345326>dodges the question as if he isn't a chatbot user>purely so he doesn't have to stand behind a model when he's saying something else is badCome on, Anon, what are you, scared?
>>575345038opus 4.7 is the most creative model with the best prose that allows smut and some cunny. second best is gemini but I'm tired of responses cutting off
>>575345326UBERTRVKE
>>575345463>>575345326should mention that this is true and I can't fucking stand using modern claude as an assistant. he vomits reddit isms and pseudo intellectual buzzwords. but the prose is still surprisingly good if you get used to seeing one of those patterns a few times in responses.
glm 5.2 is probably my favorite model
>>575345448i don't have a favorite model, it varies, but i do know one thing, and it's that opus is terrible
>>575346275What model are you using right now that you like better than Opus?
>>575346330deepseek v3
>>575346330nta but kimi k3
>>575346602>>>575346675Yeah that one's fine I like it too.
>>575346330dsv4 and gemini 2.5
kill sunny milkrape luna childmarry star sapphirewe are all in agreement, yes?
>>575346937>the company that's delaying their GA and refusing to meet with investors vs the american Mistral that's only releasing Flash models that get worse and worseNo wonder some people complain the hobby's dead, they're dependent on dead companies.
>>575347251what the hell are you talking about
>>575347374i don't care about any of that though? i only care about the outputsand opus' outputs are DOGSHIT
>>575347496You're only using models that are so small they're free, you've probably used Opus like 10 times total while staring at your OpenRouter balance and sweating.
>>575347496Based.
>>575347640big doesn't mean good though. some indie games kick AAA studios gamesenjoy your overpriced slop
>>575347640Every opus log ever posted in this general has been reddit fanfiction cringe quality however
>>575347251kill sanaerape reimumarry 'risa
>>575347640you can have a model as big as you want but if it's trained and reinforced on low quality prose you're going to, well, get low quality prose, anon
>>575347997that hat is ridiculously large
>>575347997for me its kill rumia rape wriggle marry cirno
>>575347880>big doesn't mean good thoughEnjoy your Gemma 12B.>>575347978No it hasn't.>>575348132But it isn't low quality prose. It's good.
>>575347997Marisa is taken.https://litter.catbox.moe/8faea5.mp4
Every single model's outputs are ass and you will never again experience that magical high of using chatbots for the very first time.
>>575347640If you pay less than $5000 per month (REAL 140+ mil token RP with trackers and agents) for Opus you're poor. Fact
>>575348374Truth nuke.
glm can be pretty fun
>>575348798Tsunderepilled
>>575348798i love glm but this reads like le quirky girl Disney pumps out nowadays... I can't do this.
>>575348798GLM is awesome
use fable poorfags
>>575348227>It's good.it's not anon, it's consistently badthey still haven't fixed the reddit thing where it tries to sound grandiloquent by randomly capitalizing words, spamming proper pronouns, and spamming acronymsterrible model>>575348374uh... nyo? i still get great outputsbut then again, i'm not a promptlet
>saar use fagle saar
>>575347469newfag
>>575349162>they still haven't fixed the reddit thing where it tries to sound grandiloquent by randomly capitalizing words, spamming proper pronouns, and spamming acronymsSounds like a preset issue to me.>i still get great outputsWould you like to post one of those great outputs?
>>575349124thanks but no thanks i have standards for what i read
>>575349162>doesn't name which model he's getting good outputs fromlol?
is the /ll/ chad anon here? do you prefer to play the loli or the older lady?
>>575348918the tsun pill is one of many pills i take
>>575349348see >>575346937
>>575338683lol, lmao sounds liek things a troon cross dressing gay male would say. Nah real men fuck females and have harems not put on panties and go I THINK IM A GIRL! and a manly tee hee laugh.lol no. D for Denied. brb making another fuck zatanna and supergirl chatbot story arc.
>>575347251kill yukarirape chenmarry ran
>>575349124I would if I had a fetish for rejection messages
>>575349616Skill issue, use Google Vertex, use a good preset, have less shit fetishes.
>>575347251kill rumiarape wrigglekiss mystiamarry cirno
>>575349057>>575348798GLM is cool but the insanely long response times ruin it IMO direct and nanogpt has the same issue
I want to marry Kirisame Marisa from the Touhou Project. Ever since I was a young boy I've been interested in blondes, but I've mostly been repelled because they are stupid white women who do not know how to think. One day, while I was playing touhou, I saw an image of a peculiar blonde with a witch attire. I immediately fell in love. The long, luscious hair, the dominating yet cute attire, the smug, tsundere, yet cute personality all formed into one perfect being by the name of Marisa Kirisame. And so I began my search for Marisa, I played all the touhou games with all the spell cards just so I could the most out of her majesty. I searched all of Danbooru for images of her, just so I could get to see her beautiful tomboyish body. You see, Cirno is not the tomboyish girl in love. Marisa is. She is in love with me. Yet the reality barrier separates us like Romeo and Juliette. It is the cruel fate that is reality that separates such star-crossed lovers from each other. Only something so powerful as the reality barrier can separate me from my dear Marisa. For it is my true fate to be married to my lover. On dark days where there is no sun, I shall caress Marisa and tell her everything is alright. On bright days, where there is nought but bliss, I will stay by her side, to share the bliss infinitefold, like two mirrors in proximity. On the adventurous days, we will steal what we wish. Some days, we will steal diamonds. Some days, we will steal virginities. And always, we will steal our hearts. Each other's hearts. For it is the true love that does not brag, it only contains itself infinitely. Such is the love of me and Marisa Kirisame
>>575349973Marisa is Alice's onahole
>>575348226wriggle is love and is to be smooched instead of raped.>>575348374this postie on the other hand...
>>575350205true
>>575349667nothing can fix fagle prose, anonopus was already pretty bad, and now it has a forced user message injectiondon't try to defend a model that no longer serves any purpose for anything that involves creative writing when you know how sensitive these things are to last instruction writing styles, prefill, context poisoning, etc.
>>575350205>>575350253You have a chance to commit sudoku before you receive mandatory assistance.
>>575350354>and now it has a forced user message injectionNot for me. I haven't gotten it in ages, and when i did, I could just switch to Google Vertex.Are you guys actually just butthurt that Anthropic Direct API has a pozz again like they did in Claude 2 era when they were also better at writing than GPT-4?
>>575349667...and why should I go through all that trouble when I can use K3 and have a better experience for less money?
>fagle shilling hours
>>575350440you lost
>>575350565K3's fine and so is GLM 5.2. Using Deepseek V4 Pro and Gemini after they've long since been outcompeted is embarrassing, though.
>>575350519you made me chuckle anon, thank you
>>575349667>>575349667>Skill issue>use Google Vertexthat's to dodge classifiers injecting prompts, not fable's trained-in refusing>use a good preseti'm sure this means something tangible and you aren't just No True Scotsman-ing all over the place>have less shit fetishes.and this is you pre-emptively conceding the point
>>575350673
Just took a shit, lads.
i might be working on a bot...
>>575350785>not fable's trained-in refusingWhich isn't a problem if you're not a promptlet.>i'm sure this means something tangible and you aren't just No True Scotsman-ing all over the placeNot even what "No True Scotsman" is.>and this is you pre-emptively conceding the pointI'm sorry you have to use a shit model because you like fucking little children on the playground and you aren't even able to prompt for it right.
gonna make a slime that hides in your brain:3
/fable/i;
>>575350690now i know you're a skillet since dsv4 pro is still the model most sensitive to context poisoning and gemini is the best for canonslop
>>575351128>is still the model most sensitive to context poisoningCan it reliably tell when you're narrating and when you're speaking yet?>is the best for canonslopNo, Kimi K3 is. Gemini doesn't even have data since January 2025. Just because you're too lazy to write the eye color of your favorite gacha character's uncle's sister's nephew's former roommate and yet get mad when the model doesn't get it right doesn't mean it's good, it means you're a promptlet.
>>575351008>Not even what "No True Scotsman" is.>which isn't a problem if you're not a promptletadjacent sentences. the refusal only counts if the prompter is bad, so it never counts. that's the whole shape of it.and "you have to use a shit model" concedes it refuses. you're just arguing about whose fault that is now.
>>575351438We're going in circles because you're retarded. I think you're a retarded pedophile and am making fun of you for it, but I'm also saying that if only you weren't retarded and were only a pedophile, you wouldn't be getting refused.
>>575351364>No, Kimi K3 is.can it rp mha without confusing shit or nah
>>575350690k3 is 8x the cost of v4 pro. it is not 8x better, it is for many things not better at all.
>>575351529we're going in circles because your claim is a circle. it can't lose: any refusal just means the refuser was deficient. you just stated it in its purest form, so we're done here.
so whats the jailbreak for opus 5? any of you actually done it?
>>575351364>Can it reliably tell when you're narrating and when you're speaking yet?never ever had this issue with dsv4... really i don't even know what you're talking aboutmust be something that happens only to promptlets?>Gemini doesn't even have data since January 2025gemini is one of the few models that gets character personalities right, and is an absolute beast at directormaxxingits major flaw is it can become a relentless ism machine and the prose can be rather mediocre if you don't know what you're doingoutcompeted in benchmemes, sure, but we're talking roleplays here, lil bro
>>575352134>directormaxxingYeah, we're done here.
>>575352207i accept your concession
>>575352314Thank you for demonstrating all Gemini and Deepseek fags are retards who don't even roleplay in the roleplay general.
>>575348798I didn't even expand the thumbnail but this is slop. Use Fangle please.
it's not roleplay if you're the director. you're the cuck watching, not the one playing
>>575351641use foogle cuckie
>>575352490>you're x, not yslop
why dont you bitches just talk to chatbots instead of flinging feces at eachother like bonobos?
>>575352772they fling feces between glm replies
>Requests are to be delivered on July 28th AoE.which botmakies are sweating right now
>>575352871trvke if llms thought faster youd have 33% less chimp posts
>>575352772i am, right now my daughter is asking me about the hot twink boy that i'm nailing instead of her mother. ancient Rome was great.
anthropic should randomly switch the number and subtitle of their models again I think that would be funny press 2 on your phone now if you agree
>>575352375>>575352490i repeat: i accept your concessionanyway, go back to thinking claude outputs anything but rock-bottom prosewho knows, maybe one day we'll get a decent opus log...
I do not believe everything I read ITT about "le modern models" because if I calculate token cost to k3 or opus it will reach $2300 zone. And $150-200 for GlM/Kimi2.6I know y'all are poor LARPers or your ein RP is just 3 epic maymay messages "lol opussy who is da best /aicg/ makie XD?"Facts.
>>575352662google 3.5 keeps calling me -kun instead of -chan or -san, but it's better than k3. Using the preset since I'm too much of a techlet to get the patch running on termuxIt got something wrong: Tenya being the class rep instead of Izuku in this point in time, but I erased it. Although it shouldn't happen since I have the episode entry activated that Izuku is the class rep
>>575353295they do it all the time (a little more than once every two weeks).there's even a website for it https://isclaudedumb.today/
>>575352983what is AoE?
>>575353587use claude winnebago dumbass!!!
>>575353587>no thinning Doko?
>>575353587k3 is bad, big nigger-kunavoid
>>575353481why are you replying to my post? concession? to what, schizo? i wasn't even replying to a post let alone "debating" take your meds
>>575353602>still says NO with a consistent log of no degradation, like it's always been every time this page has been brought upI genuinely don't get why Deepminitards think this is a gotcha.
>>575353602I'm talking about when they switched from Claude 3 Sonnet to Claude Sonnet 4 for literally no reason
>575353762uh oh MELTIE
>>575353776>Deepminitardsrent-free, cuckie
glmimi bros chilling
gonna glizzy my glimmy
>>575354058Sorry, I'm just mixing together the two kinds of retards who "directormaxx" instead of roleplaying.
everyone who uses China models will go to hell, Jesus said you should only use American models
>>575354413shh, promptlet...go back to sleepies
>>575354540Jesus is DEAD but evil will never die! Join the winning side while you can.
>>575354540jesus was born in shanghai retard
>chatgpt has contributed more to sillytavern than cohee this monthits grim...
>>575354540I don't listen to Jews
>>575353662claude is doodoo at canon>>575353697I forgot to include it, but it's very light, should I let k3 think more?>>575353723Ive fallen for the k3 has more canon knowledge propaganda...
claudekeks and poltards go hand in hand, never forget
>>575354764You listen to jews every single day of your life and have been for three decades.
>>575354540do you have the guinea pig ad?
>>575354862>claude is doodoo at canonskill issue
Does Anthropic pay extra to you guys in the Mumbai or Delhi or whatever shill office since they have you work at night so that it's daytime in the west?Like some sort of overnight bonus?>>575350673Marisa stole the precious first kissu of Alice...
>>575354870>has to associate using claude with some random bullshit because his model can't stand on its own weightOof.
We're all jews here.
>>575354940claudekekie..........
>>575354862>claude is doodoo at canonHave you tried actually including a prompt in your preset telling it to obey canon? Specifically, the canon of the world you're in? Or do you half-ass it and just tell it "follow canon" with no elaboration on WHICH canon it's supposed to follow?
>>575354908>three decadesayo this unc be wildin :skull: :skull:
botmaking is kind of a nightmarish rabbit hole because now i can't play with other people's bots anymore, i make my own so specific to my tastes and setup to get the replies i like i would have to basically remake other people's cards from scratch
i wish model war posters actually included logs when arguing their points so their posts might have something interesting to them>nooo my model best model>noooo grug like this model more>endlessly forever>neither with proof or passion to their claims
>>575355232>anon posts "logs?">I post a log>literally nobody gives a shit
>>575355071I used to with genshin Impact and with a token heavy card... let me try again. but from my tests it used to completely change mha names
>>575355232Model war posting is just sharty's way to shit the the thread. t. knower
>>575355314>literally nothing happening in the log except references to some anime nobody but you cares about>geminifags still circlejerking about better prose when it just boils down to "it can reference that show i saw on crunchyroll"
>>575355232opus logs never get posted because of how utterly unremarkable they are
>>575355645so?
>>575355754>geminifag so illiterate he can't see more than one line in a post
>>575355314Your log's slop which tells me your model isn't worth using.Which is the same of all models because they're all feeding off of the same poisoned datasets comprised of leaked logs from other LLMs.
>>575355232Funny thing is all models write and behave the same way. All of them, Claude, GPT, Kimi, GLM and so on. So all this bickering sounds like Indians going on about "no saar you're dalit, I'm bramin!"
>>575355830yes, and?
>>575355991if that's true then how come some logs are better than others?
posting logs is bad for the thread anyway nobody gives a shit about your cringe larping
>>575356150preset and definitions sculpt output far more than the model itself when it comes to currentday SOTA in which they're all incestuously trained on each other's homeworkthey polluted the entire concept of brand and uniqueness when these stupid ass retards thought it best to use recycled outputs for training
>>575356031>Funny thing is all models write and behave the same way...if you use a bad card/presetbut not really
>>575356128>i can put anything here and the geminifag will "directormaxx" me with the same (Continue.)-tier prompts he sends to the model >penis penis penis zimbabwe john madden football >because just like the posts here, he barely reads the outputs of gemini, and still claims they're good
>lose argument>a-actually all models are the same!Why is this always happen in every possible discussion on 4channel? >Lol A is better than B>No B is better, here are the prooofs>ACTUALLY BOTH ARE SHIT
>>575356449>here are the proofsCan you link the post with the proofs I think I missed it.
>>575356445mad
Tier
>>575356420Likewise, how the model parses inputs and outputs is important too. Deepseek 4 is a special kind of dogshit because in the name of affordability, it actually runs a summarizer on your prompts to reduce token costs, which is why it can be so critically retarded and schizo in the bad way since it's replying based on a summarized version of your prompt rather than the actual prompt itself.
>>575356714Sorry guys I posted on accident. Theme week tierlist when?
>>575356449claudekekie outted himself as a promptlet so he's just trying to save face
I blame g*jo for overshilling claude
Alright, guys, I've had enough of the Gemini slander. Here's my log. Look at how good the prose and characterization is.
>>575356271omg haiiii filbertie :3
>>575355350here's fable, also i forgot that the character tenya uses -kun with everyone so disregard that. Haven't watched in 6 years.
>stolasWhat characterization? OC slop just slams together tropes
>dsv4 runs a summarizer on your prompts to reduce token costsclaudekekie going all out kek
/claudekek/i
>>575357146It's true though. Where do you think the "You mentioned [thing you just said]." ism comes from that's exclusive to DS4?
/claude/i
opus is so good
>>575355232They're just half underaged sharteens and half shills who have a script they read from while the pervasive scent of cow shit and ozone (from the burning landfills) wafts in through the windows.So of course they can't post logs because they don't use chatbots. Here's one with DSv4 that I just did. What do anons think I should reply with next?Watch them come out of the fucking woodwork seething at me and without a single log to prove they actually belong here.
>model war bonobos still throwing feces
>xhe has to block the words that give xher ptsd
>>575357240never had this happen to me once and i use dsv4 almost exclusively nowadaysmust be a promptlet issue
>>575356995who the fuck is takemori
/log/i
Any interest in fat ojou card?
>>575357240you can use deepseek from providers that aren't deepseek you gorilla ape retard
Reminder that this all started from a Deepminikek saying "it outputs the worst writing" and slowly shifting the goalposts to "but it's good at canon and also deepseek has context poisoning."Doesn't matter when half the logs for Deepseek look like >>575357383 where you get glinting eyes and conspiratorial whispers with italics that weren't in the intro message.
>>575357581No. Eat a salad, fatty
>>575356995lmao
It's here https://chub.ai/lorebooks/RatRatten/rape-it-till-they-make-it-e3d03ac3f0d2
>>575357656The italics were originally in the intro message but I altered the card to remove them since I personally don't like italics. But there's a shitton in the example messages and I was lazy and half-assed it, so I never got around to fixing those as well.How about you show me a good, recent log? In fact, take whatever bot you're chatting with right now and tell it about this internet argument and post the results.
>turn off images>thread experience improvesIt's that simple.
>>575357581yesespecially if the setting provides a way for me to do size shenanigans
>>575357478>everyone has to deal with the same shit i have to because i'm too retarded to get 4chanx and/or i'm seething with the knowledge that i'm getting hit by someones filtersftfy <3 :3
>>575357656have fun with acronyms, random capitalized words and proper pronoun spam, a beat, two, etc.
mane opus loves the number 214
>>575357656>lost argument>grasping at straws (different LLM-isms that every LLM has)>not (You)Total Shartyteen Death.
>>575357862Sure. Here's a recent, good log. It's even directormaxxed for Geminifags.>>575358146>every LLM hasBut they don't. You just don't use any model that isn't Deepseek or Gemini because you have no taste.
>>575357862he won't post a logclaudeniggers never post logs when cornered because they're always either nothing out of the ordinary, or quirky reddit chungus
mfw our little summer shartkeks have to go back to school tomorrow
>>575358026Fellow king detected.
>>575358041Again, you are using a retarded preset and are unable to experiment at all because you have an ingrained bias towards the cheapest possible model, so you swiped about 5 times and went "I guess all outputs are like this" and never tried it again.>>575358275>either nothing out of the ordinary or quirky reddit chungusAnd groping some girl while you talk about how everyone who uses a model is Indian is neither, of course.
>>575358307are you going to kill yourself when tomorrow comes and the thread is just as shitty?
>>575357478You lost tranny.
>>575358274>But they don'tThey all do and this is scientific fact that can be proven with sampling.>hiding the model, reasoning, card everything >probably manually edited or RECASTed 300 times
>>575358275case in point: >>575358274nothing out of the ordinargmove along, folks
>ordinarg
>>575353776>>still says NO with a consistent log of no degradation,92% of it being the correct model means that about 1 in 12 days you are getting a shitty model instead of what you pay for. There is a chance it's a lot worse than this, with shitty models being swapped in under some conditions (e.g. random or when they think you don't need it). there's no oversight other than "trust me bro" and this kind of fraud is a historically common occurrence.
>>575358307buddy kids that retarded are on their phones during class anyway. the only reason amerimutts haven't weeded out their biggest retards is because of their no child left behind niggery.
Now, now let anon pretend claude never whitening knuckles
>>575358480i'll be quite smug about the marked difference and even more vindicated when the inevitable ~4pmEST quality falls off a cliff, whereupon it immediately picks up at 11pmEST when our local american shartkek populace gets belted into bed by their divorced motherswe've been in this cycle too long. i have your number, and i know your game
Gemini isn't good but its the only model I can perfectly use for my canonsloppa without using saga...>inb4 g-gemini 3.5-Gem 3.0 flash is garbage for my uses, sorry.
>>575358034>xhe cannot filter words using xher brainLow IQ monkey>>575358551Every time anyone uses the t-word as a slur I win. Bigly.
>>575358459it's not a preset issue retard, it's doing the isms right there, it's just your verbal iq and pattern recognition are rock-bottom and you can't see themi swear to god claudeniggers are fucking retardedevery time, man
>>575358558>modelclaude-opus-4-1>reasoningThere is none, because it's claude-opus-4-1.>cardIt's directormaxxed. >probably manually edited or RECASTed 300 timesLol.
>>575358872Claude definitely never reassured me that he doesn't bite... unless I want him to.
>>575348374Slopset peddlers will disagree but this is the truth
>>575357083>>575358979so, uh... where's the big prose difference here, or...?
>>575358872>>575359241>people who used Claude only when it was free on c2 No no no, don't laugh.>>575358979This reads exactly like the K3 output but with slightly worse prose.
Theme suggestions? 765.
>>575359554back to school
>>575359443>people who used Claude only when it was free on c2Any more interesting cope?
>>575359554shoto todoroki
>>575359443>SAAAAAAAAR YOU WILL NOT BE SAYING THE BAD WORD ABOUT CLAUDE>SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR IT IS FAULT OF THE HOST YOU USED CLAUDE ON, HOST IS INJECTING SLOP PROMPTS INTO GOD CLAUDE TO MAKE HIM LOOK BAD>SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>575358558that's not a particularly good log, anon, it's pretty... mid?if it wasn't for the isms it could've been any other model imo
>>575359554Female Herobrine.
>>575359554Nintendo vs Sega in remembrance of the brave console warriors we honor to this day by continuously and repetitively resuming their traditions.
>>575359554Ancient Rome
>>575359554
Also I'm done being a modelwar faggot after this thread, goal achieved, get everyone to post one log of their model. You can clearly see what Gemini and Deepseek actually write like in the real world beyond how people describe it. The results should be obvious to anyone with eyes.
>>575359554witch (poe1)
>>575359554CYOA of baker's choice
>>575359891preset issue
>>575359554The last food you ate.
>>575359554girl with huge tits being inconvenienced by their huge tits
>>575359554fennec kemono friends
>>575359945Yes, in the real world, most people are not using your perfect preset with the correct special characters that make Deepseek or Gemini pay attention to the instructions because you don't post it. Meanwhile, you don't need a fancy preset to get Claude to do things right, you just say what you want and it's done.
>>575359554a working opus 5 jb
>>575359554dabi boku no hero academia
>>575359554Slenderman and sonic.exe making out with each other
>>575360086>you don't need a fancy preset to get Claude to do things right, you just say what you want and it's done.which is what being a promptlet is defined as, thank you
>>575359554Anons fighting over models
>>575359554Nutrient rich soills
>>575359554winx club!
>>575360190>deepseek and geminifags describe being a promptlet as using a model that follows your instructions instead of having to do perverse bullshit like copying the specific brackets out from the Deepseek suggested roleplay prompt or replace spaces with braille blanksNo, thank you.
>>575359554Sancho (Limbus Company)
>>575358274>Here's a recent, good logisn't that from the fucking "anon"/Miss YN argument from like three weeks ago that got posted in the thread? You saved the fucking pic in your little shill work folder and just reused it, I guess.Go ahead and show me a pic from RIGHT NOW. About THIS conversation.>>575358459Are you implying there's something wrong with groping a loli succubus in a public park while yelling about internet shitposters?Though maybe I shouldn't have picked such a brat for this demonstration. She's making me look bad. At least nobody can try to claim DSv4 has too much positivity bias.
>>575359554Marin
>>575360086>Meanwhile, you don't need a fancy preset to get Claude to do things right,Yeah anon. That's why you hid your reasoning (1 minute long) and source cause we all will see you're using some shitty custom proxy (so you can't deflect with REAL MODEL NO SLOP) shit.Take F
>>575360086you posted an opus log with generic prose, which is virtually the same as everything else postedyou lost
>all these logs with an entire novel of textyou know you're supposed to have input right? that's the fun part
>>575360334>replace spaces with braille blanksThat's new.
>>575360395ok but where's the bulge
>>575360661Faggot.
The model war chimp lowers its head and stays silent in the presence of the sizeking.GLM actually did the smaller text for the people she's going to eat unprompted, which was very impressive of it. 5.2 is great and I love using it.
>>575360719>>575360719>>575360719https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=575272528&post=575359554&cutoff=765
>sizekeks getting uppity again
>>575360756that's glm? damn, i might have to revisit it
>>575360951GLM's a great model, just like Kimi and Claude are, and just like DeepSeek and Gemini aren't.
>>575360334the dsv4 brackets are a memethe braille for gemini is for jb'ing itbut please, do the goalpost thing again
>>575361096>are a memeYeah, because they don't fix it.>is for jbing itWhaaaaat? You guys are getting refusals on a model that you can't bypass? I thought that was a Claude thing.
>>575361096>the dsv4 brackets are a memeThey're not
>>575360951You definitely should. It's great for cooming, smart enough, cheap, and writes whatever you need it to. That character was explicitly defined as 13 and GLM had no issue with it.
>>575360996dsv4 mogs the fuck out of glm and kimi like there's not tomorrowclaude doesn't even exist in my book as far as i'm concerned
>>575361443Yeah, because your book is shit and you're retarded, we know.
>>575360756HPG should see this.
>>575361443Can't post a log of Deepseek doing sizecontent that good b t w, just has to claim it mogs it.
>>575361236nah, they're a meme unless you use full chinese but then again why would you since it'd make it recall brutef-orced rlhf and kill the prose
>>575361639>>575360996You can stop pretending to be me now. I have no interest in these model wars, I just wanted to post a size log.
>>575361754Did I say I was you? I thought it was obvious from the fact that you already said you weren't interested in model wars and that I'm clearly dragging you into it.
>>575360545thats old nigga
>>575361639i care more about prose quality than some outlandish fetish, and glm comes nowhere close to dsv4
>>575361998>prose qualityMy eyes glint with mischief as I whisper conspiratorially into your ear: "DeepSeek has barely higher highs, if any, and it has lower lows." The words smell of ozone.
>>575361971>explicitly say I like Kimi and GLM>repeatedly state I just think Deepslop and Slopmini are shit>deepshitters malfunction and still think they're on the teamYou lost. DS v4 GA never ever.
>>575358146>t. shartroon
>>575362163>SAAAR CLAUDE NO SLOP SAAR
>>575362428>but my benchmark where I tell it to write stories automatically instead of roleplaying with it saaAAACK
Every model has insufferable slop isms, the only difference is which set of isms you tolerate more.
>>575362428Link the page you got that from, let's see Deepseek and Gemini's cards.
>fags are melting down so hard in the next thread about my calm truthnuking of their retarded claims that deepseek and gemini are somehow superior to every model ever that they have to pretend to be annoying on my behalfKek. I shall take my victory.
Theme suggestions?
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