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>PR disaster with the gacha changes, everyone hates BA right now>Internal documents and images now getting leaked, presumingly out of spite because of the aforementioned changesIt's only a matter of time until we get actual future content leaked. I think it's actually fucking over. The game is dead.
Thank you based gookako
Three days later and threads are still somewhat fast. Uhm I have a bad feeling about this...
>>575561197GOOKAKO BREAD
I was promised seia bread
Sex with Ibuki and Kokona
>gookako bread is real
>>575561242>100% of future content gets leaked>Still no mention of Suou
First for Führer Makoto
https://youtu.be/6Zbzb6LeiB8thread theme
based
El pinche momo bien pendejo
>gookako breadit's the end times for sure
>>575561197HOLY FUCK THE ACTUAL GOOD 50/50 /bag/ THREADPRAISE GOOKAKO
>Tons of Concept Art is being leaked right nowDo you think Nexon or Yostar will take action?Will they go after /bag/?
>>575561242But what IF the future content leak is Student Teacher marriage?
Annyeong haseyo Gooks. Go raid Nexon HQ and rewrite the Gehenna volume to make Ako the main heroine
>hinawank volume>game eos’fucking GEHENNERS
>>575560896You only got the 40 pulls because we prevented the community from reaching nuclear levels of meltdown with mathemtical evidence and gave the devs confidence in keeping the gacha update. Your logic is entirely inverted.
Why is everyone mad? We literally get carry over pity now and a 50/50 at 100 pulls instead of having to go all the way to 200.What am I missing?
>>575561350>gacha change so bad it leads to 4chan dying
MAKE MORE
Don't scare away arca.live gallery user guys
>The early thread got insta deletedThey're eyeing us 24/7 now
>>575561289Did you know that most youth academies now ban heading practice to protect children's brains? Please stop promoting heading
/bag/ I rubbed my eyes when I had a bit of hot sauce in my fingersBlue Archive
WE WON
Gookchan has some cool stuff.
>>575561448It's meant to trick you into rolling more than you would. It being "better on average" doesn't mean anything when it's built to trick you.
>>575561448>we're losing our fantastic spark system for the most predatory gacha system in existence>"hum, what's the issue???"
>>575561492Who cares /bag/ will die soon anyway
>>575561536kimchi fried chicken army pot kumsamida good sir
I hope they stop shilling their greedy old system
>>575561448Before the bandaid tickets the odds of getting both in 200 pulls dropped from 75% to around 55%. Now it's basically identical but I don't trust them not to remove that bandaid in future.
A fertile student womb is a comfy room
>>575561448>carry over pityit being carryover practically does nothing
>>575561448SEAmonkeys (read koreans) don't want player friendly gacha changes where it's easier to get your character. They want characters to be expensive and exclusive so they can lord over others with their pulls. BA in general is a whales game and this makes whales spend less so whales are upset that they can't flex as much anymore.
Maybe if we have naked dogeza apology stream with clothes neatly folded as they roll everything back we'll be good (probably)
>>575561429>Your logic is entirely inverted.just like my nipples>>575561492bake faster next time retard
>>575561536>Kim's momBro you aren't fooling anyone.
>>575561375That'll be 3000 yen per ring, thank you.
>>575561536To kill spammers. It gets much easier after a few posts.
wtf is shit bread?
EoS eta?
>>575561418>hina gets a summer event>becomes the worst summer event in the game>hina gets involved in a volume >said volume goes on to become one of the most controversial volumes in the game >hinas school gets a volume of its own with her smacked over it>game dies
I've been only playing for a couple of weeks but I really like BA, I hope they don't fuck it up
>>575561536Is it true that most south korean likes kim jong un?
POST MORE LEAKS
I like the new gacha system cause it's only bad for morons and morons deserve to be punished for the brainless cattle that they are. The new system is an outright improvement for anyone with an IQ in the double digits.>inb4 actually it's bad because *blatantly wrong retard logic*If you respond like this we know where your IQ falls.
>>575561536speaki cuayo
>>575561589It's not identical, you come out significantly ahead statistically regardless of how much you pull (up to 400).
>>575561536samsung hyundai kimchi to you too gookfriend
GOOKAKO THREAD WONGive me your most precious gookakos
>/bag/ killed BAKino.
cute idea
How do I get more of these? Do you only get them from dailies?
>>575561545>fantastic>200 pulls to get character>don't get the character in 200 you lose all that pity tough luck NEXT BANNERHuh?>>575561594>does nothingWhat do you mean? I can roll on a banner without having 200 pulls available. And if I don't get the character or lose my 50/50 I get a guarantee on the next banner AND keep my pity.What the fuck am I being gaslit?
>>575561536to filter out low IQ people with low IQ opinions but apparently it doesn't work
>>575561660never!
>>575561742I'd say it's about a 50/50 chance
>>575561536ohbaggi chowayo
Remember guys
>>575561492LOL GET FUCKED
there's plenty more post them pussy
>>575561743Normally yes. You can also spend pyros to buy them!
>>575561242>>Internal documents and images now getting leaked,wait, what? post links
>>575561732Here's my favorite gookui
>>5755616601 weekthe 100 free pulls will throw the jap community into disarray and then we're gonna see some serious shit
>>575561771True unless a miracle happens
What happened to arca.live users?
Child
>>575561743Buy pakeji
>>575561536AIEEEE MY WORSEKOREANBRO
>other thread deletedlul
>>575561732
>>575561696I couldn't give less of a shit because I already pulled my wife years ago, you cucks can keep swiping if you want but I have already won.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE JOHN NEXON please keep the old gacha system in place and let people choose between the too. That way the retards who can't understand math and don't want their feefees hurt from losing 50/50s fall further and further behind.
>>575561717At 200 specifically there's only like 1-2% in it and 200 was the controversial spot since the new version already outperformed at lower and higher counts before the tweaks.
>>575561815nah those are just some chink generated ai images
>>575561815Check the last thread
Is people compaining on the stream chat?
>>575561696>Nexon made the gacha more generous, please believe me guys
>>575561197wtf, first time in history that gookakos wonwe are doomed bros.
>>575561747ok which chinkslop are you playing
>>575561805This post stinks of wuhan bat soup
For every doompost one SEAjeet gets disintegrated
>>575561936Second actually
>>575561929>Don't believe the math, believe my vibes and feelings on the situation
>>575561909only 1 of those was actually ai generated (no i'm not talking about the shitty SRT one)
>>575561747that's a 25% chance of happening, rest of the time you go home with both, and 40% of the time you go home with both and can still spark for extra eleph or even another student since we've been triple, and even quadruple banners recently, which newfags would greatly benefit from
>>575561879Consider: your wife, but she has a new hat.
https://nicochannel.jp/roompet/live/smhbqLFkzZuFNpjwAZiknLP4Rabu.
We love John Nexon here
>>575561923Impregnate elves.
>>575561743>only 8assuming you didn't start this week, you weren't using those to craft the second and third nodes, were you?you didn't brick your account this bad?
>>575561998>please believe my fake math please please please
You guys actually like seeing pregnant women?
>>575561998If the changes are good for the players, wouldn't it be in Nexon's best interest to say that? Why would they change the gacha to be better for players and not even mention that as the reason why?
kaisercorp won
>>575561990I gotta crank up my doomposting
Hey gook you know dynasty warrior? There's japs version called samurai warrior, where's gook warrior?
What if someone at Millennium developed a gun that turned girls into punis? And the turned girls show up like this on your phone screen, realistic photos with speech windows
>>575562015IT'S HER
>>575561696saaaar
>>575562016are those.... nipples?
>>575562083When have they ever mentioned the reason behind any of the changes they made?
>>575562076If those women are our students
>Have to do the shitty Seia event again
>>575561696Your AI math doesn't mean shit.
>>575562006>25% chanceNo fuck you. I've rolled on tons of banners and not gotten the character. I've gotten to 160 or 180 and had to have all that progress get dumped on the banner reset.I'm tired of getting fucked because of percent chances you brown south east asians are obsessed with.Meanwhile I can go to 100 and have a chance to get the character now. And if I don't I can bank that. Or I can hold onto my pity before hitting a 5 star instead of getting ass fucked when the banner resets.This literally is a whale problem. For people who want one copy of a character they like we're getting fucked by you greasy brown filipino faggots.
>>575562083To make retards like (you) spend more because you roll based on vibesAt this point, I fully agree that you deserve it
>>575561732cutest one
I genuinely feel super empowered by the new gacha, I can pull all the time now and get everyone eventually the average odds are that great, going from 34% at 175 to 69% is crazy
>>575562167you're imagining things, goyharu
>>575561743or paying, yeahyou'll get shit tons as long as you play normally. Don't worry about it.I've been at over 300 for nearly a year now and that's from me trying to craft 6 times a day every day at LEAST (often I'll craft more because of skip tickets)
>>575562053I've been playing for a while. They just gradually went down and I don't really know why. I just do the daily 3 crafts.
>>575561872>>575562186SAVED, thanks for the fat Wakamao
>>575562202>they changed the gacha to be more predatory, here's why that's a good thing
>>575561747>What do you mean? I can roll on a banner without having 200 pulls available. And if I don't get the character or lose my 50/50 I get a guarantee on the next banner AND keep my pity.>What the fuck am I being gaslit?no, you're just an idiot playing exactly into nexon's hand. Spending habits like that basically foments you being completely broke 24/7 no matter how better the odds and when you want 2 or more characters and you have bad luck you'll be either eating shit or paying out of your wallet like the system intended
Why do they worship Kim like some kind of messiah?Doremi, Pikaman and others worked very hard in the past to develop BA as well.
I no longer play blue archive but sometimes I remember gookako and I smile and want to play it againSillyShould I?
>>575562193>I've gotten to 160 or 180 and had to have all that progress get dumped on the banner reset.AHAHAHA
>>575562193>I've gotten to 160 or 180 and had to have all that progress get dumped on the banner reset.2/10 be more subtle.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HOTokNIaUAA4N_u?format=jpg&name=large
>>575562229Because upu only get 17 a week. Of course it will go down if ypu spend 21 a week.
>>575562253Nope, they made it less predatory unless you're retarded. Again, you deserve it.
>>575561747"building pity" is a retarded thing that only someone who's stockholm syndromed by other games would fall for
>>575562193>No fuck you. I've rolled on tons of banners and not gotten the characterlucklet btfo>I've gotten to 160 or 180 and had to have all that progress get dumped on the banner reset.finish your sparks nigger
>>575562193just pull more to average out the results? that’s the whole point you pityniggers use to defend your system isn’t it?
>>575562083It wasn't better until this last minute scramble to fix it with the free tickets. It was 'better' if you gambled little and often or went all in on every banner until you got both students, both of which are behaviours they'd rather you engaged in than carefully planning your pulls. Now it's slightly better except for whales who are rolling more than two sparks per banner but that's only because of the backlash and I wouldn't count on these free ticket rewards being available forever.
This is the age of HOPE!
>>575562258>player focused changes that enable people who want to get one copy of the character are bad>because whales percent chances to getting multiple copies are getting hurtWhy are you browns like this?
>>575562186Wakamo does NOT stink
>>575562343No, it's still not better. 50/50 will never be better than what we had.
Building pitty
Gomen Arisu
>>575562310You will learn to like it
Is... it... over?
>Get to do the amazing Seia event again
Holy shit eleph = elephant!
>>575562374>it's worse because it hurts my feelingsperish
>>575562362Wakamo really looks like that fgo servant huh, the similarity is so uncanny
New gacha is a win win for everyone, devs will make more money and the players will get more stuff, they are basically squeezing the game's deep pool of content dry to extra more value from it than in the past.
will kim jong-ha dare to show his face at the upcoming comiket
Swimsuit Kanoe L2D Concept
seia raped me
>>575562445Amazing joke Chise
>>575562358???are you replying to the right post? I'm saying "building pity" without having 200 rolls is idiotic when did I mention whales?
People keep brining up "rolling to 190" but wouldn't the equivalent in the old system be rolling to 290? Like how many of you actually rolled to 290 in the same way you're brining up "190, 10 before spark"
>>575562445fvck...
>>575562454They are just both based on the same myth.
>>575562253Retards should be predated on.
>>575562464Why not? He fixed it.
>>575562343The system feels like it falls into the exact trap Stella Sora faces by making people getting "lucky at the wrong time"
>>575562467who dis?
>>575562120>korean warriorProject Windless?
>>575562425>you will develop Stockholm syndromeyeah that’s literally what the guy said, you don’t have to repeat it back to him
wtf, why is Wakamo obsessed with my ass?
>>575562449Video games are literally entirely about feelings.
>>575562310>building pityBuilding pity is when you roll on a character you don't want to build pity because you're a gambling addict.Don't use terms you don't understand Juan filipoono ESL.>>575562313>finish your sparks nigger>spend moneyNo. Fuck you.>>575562328>just pull more>spend moneyWhy should I have to when there's a better system being implemented that respects the rolls I make. Why are you obsessed with spending money to gamble?>>575562328>average the resultsLike I said. Filipoono behaviour.
>>575562514my wife (real)
>>575562473that's clearly lingerie + boyfriend shirt instead of swimsuitsex
>>575562076Of course. Why wouldn't you enjoy seeing a woman you love carrying the biological child that you conceived together with your seed and her egg?
>>575561747You already lost. The previous system meant you "paid" 24k to get what you wanted and got a bonus when you were lucky. The new system obfuscates the gambling to make you think you're smarter, but you lost control. You will be spending more gems, but you will never admit it.
>>575562425like I said
>>575562425what a complete non-argument, as expected from a hoyoslop gacha defender
>>575562473Do you have the evil Shimiko art?
>>575562374You are more likely to get more pick ups at every single pull count up to 400 now. Without the bonuses it was worse between 150-250, but that's no longer the case.
>>575562473The fucks she doing in the left image?Holding her hair up?
>>575562553you’re trying too hard
>>575562181This would just lead to student overpopulation, at a certain point it just becomes weird
the homu arc will save the game
>>575562613>but the average after 1 trillion rolls!You won't care after you lose a coin flip 3 times in a row.
>>575562454>>575562506The psychotic fox bride swirls and churns eternal.
>>575562553>Building pity is when you roll on a character you don't wantNobody actually does this. You roll on a banner you somewhat want but not enough to drop the full pity on.
>>575562076Yes
>>575562464nigga's gonna get shanked lol
>>575562623we clearly got the best
>>575562425>You will learn to like itno, I'll just never roll on a banner I'd be not willing to spend 200 rolls to get the student on like an individual with IQ in the triple digits would do. The pity is the wonderful trap for retards that will finance the overall better system for people with brains
>>575562513In no percentile of luck are you better off under the system.
You don't like getting fucked in the ass? Just quit the game then. Simple.
>>575562658>You roll on a banner you somewhat want but not enough to drop the full pity on.and you're trying to tell us this is a better system than what we had lmao
>>575562553>you don't want to build pity because you're a gambling addictthis retard's so desperate he became incoherent
>>575561197Any other popular gacha game that has controversy like this then the playercount dropped by 90% and leads to inevitable EoS ??>inb4 Snowbreak
>>575562658That's literally what building pity means. It's not my fault you're using terms you don't understand. Go back to your favela english teacher and suck dick for more lessons. You need them.
Yes, just roll on banners you can't afford to build pity!
Make converting raw ligma to student ligma cheaper and then this system is good all around.
>>575562587But the new system only requires 38.4k vs old system's 48k, you just won't admit it
>>575562702it can at least buy me a dinner first...
HOARDBROS did we win? Now I can get everyone in the rerun for 25% cheaper.
>>575562553good goy
>>575561696>>575561998If the new system is actually better for us, why don't the devs come out to do some damage control and explain to us how and why is it better? show us their calculations and shit, 50/50 system is no trade secret.WHY do nothing and let people spread this "misinformation" that the new system is bad which only damages their reputation further?
>>575562650The new rates after the milestone thing are so great none of that will matter. Just make sure to always have 400 saved when pulling for two students and it will all average out eventually.
>>575562680>The pity is the wonderful trap for retards that will finance the overall better system for people with brainsEvery stupid gambler thinks they're the smartest guy in the room.
>>575562758Why are you not hoarding AP you retard
>>575562658>spending resources on something you “somewhat want”what are you, a fucking woman?
>Japanese reply only to gacha related PR with their concerns (they all word themselves uniquely)>global players spamming replies for ALL of BA JP and Global PR with complaints about gacha
>Literally get a system that's superior in every possible metric>Nooooooooooooooooo! It's still bad! It has to be!I see you.
>>575562650This will happen less often than I currently have to double spark though. I had to do that on the big limited rerun banner just a few weeks back and it sucked. Bad things will happen to me less often now.
>>575562702I tried to my finger my ass once, it actually feels good
>>575562658>SomewhatGamblers mentality. Don't fall for that.
>>575562587>this costs this and>Uh the new system is just bad okay! It's just bad because!Why can't you quantify it?The old system punishes you for spending rolls on a banner if you don't have 200. The new one doesn't. Why are you even mad. Someone above even said the percentage chances are exactly the same but with more safety nets if you roll.This is brown whale seethe.
>>575562758Congrats on the free 40,000 pyro worth of rolls overnight
>>575562790>Just make sure to always have 400 saved when pulling for two studentsAgain, worse than the old system where you could reliably get 2 students in a single spark.
>>575562623>yoshibanana>yoshimi>natsu>kazusaholy shit Rena was all ASS members at some point
Casualchads. How we feeling about the ligma changes?
>>575562427Bro, it ain't even started yet. Wait until people starts to lose coinflips and get the ssr at 150+ rolls
>Retards have no argument now other than their feelings. Lol. You love to see it.
>>575562780>hey guys, if you look at the graph you'll see it'll help the average player but fuck over our biggest paypigs responsible for 70% of the income! Thanks for listening. That's what you want to see?
Are you telling me everyone was sperging out for days over a literal nothingburger
>>575562702I thought this was a game for SuperStraight men?>>575562738>student ligmathey're called elephs>>575562731LaDS?
>>575562703Yes because in the current system you can't fish for spooks at all without wasting your pyros.>>575562732Retard.>>575562812Not my fault they release so many sexy students.
>>575562793when the other guy is literally thinking it might be a good idea to roll on a banner they DON'T have enough rolls to guarantee the rate-up I can be a bit generous to me and at least call me smarter than that drooling tard
>>575562648Better to have plentiful students than plentiful foreigners.
>>575561872source? i forgot the artist behind this
>>575562961ligma balls
>>575562835>This will happen less often than I currently have to double spark though.Are you actually this stupid? The chance of 3 coin flips being heads is 12.5%.
>>575562802I am but only to the point of not losing out on passive AP gain. 2.4x value (including the Aoi event) vs 3x value is not worth the passive loss. Next reset I will collect mail to go to 999, collect dailies and cafe, then spend my AP to not lose passive gain.
So did they make any changes overnight to the new system, changes that they weren't going to make initially? I can't tell if that Nexon JP news post is different compared to what they had announced over the weekend.
>>575562961>LaDS I dont play gacha games anon. Whats that ?
>>575562958The math literally told everyone it was already better before more information was released. The players are retarded.
did someone say... CONCERN
It's way easier to understand if you use a pre generated RNG table and apply that to both systems and intervene as mechanisms demand
>>575562745Lol. It was 24k upfront to be satisfied vs. "average" gamble, now. You fell for it.
>>575563001at least buy me a coffee first
it's funny how pityniggers are claiming that WE'RE the ones who are gambling addicts
>poodemonium summer fes>eosI don't believe this is a coincidence, it was planned EOSgod bless project rx
>>575562746Tsubasa A is somehow even more rapeable than the one we got.
I think the jews have the better arguments... what if they're right?
I hope the guy who is posting these leaks knows he's going to get into serious legal trouble.
>>575563025I only saw corn fields here
>>575562969>Yes because in the current system you can't fish for spooks at all without wasting your pyros.these are the retards saying the new system is great for people who are smart gamblers
So every 100th pull there's a 50% chance your pity resets back to square one? Which means it might be impossible to get the banner you want if RNG feels like fucking you over?
>>575563025I love you seia
>>575562857>worse than the old system where you could reliably get 2 students in a single spark.lolBut regardless, the odds of getting them both with 200 pulls worth of pyros is higher now.
>>575562835>This will happen less often than I currently have to double spark thoughThere's a 12.5% chance of losing 3 coinflips in a row. That's over twice as high as chance to double spark.A lot higher actually because under the old system you also have a chance to roll the other banner you want off-rate (6% in 300 rolls)
>>575563015Like a Dragon: Siwami (it means sextreme)
>>575562886>CasualchadsI think casualGODS won so hard that I can't quite believe it.>Gold looks better, Aruji-dono!was actually true all this time, holy shit
>me trying to determine which side of the disinfo campaign is closer to reality
I just woke up after feeling like shitDid they fix the banner system yet
>>575562758Think on it this way.Before every time you rolled you saved 1 cent in a jar.Now every time you roll you throw that cent down the drain.
>>575562829This needs an update with some of those jeets using the reddit and discord logos
>>575563015love and deepspace. I don't play it (or any other gachas that aren't BA) but I heard it had a big controversy recently
>>575562930because anyone even semi-seriously arguing against the math relented when the 80 free pulls where revealed so now only the howling monkeys are left
>>575563084what are they gonna do if he lives in somewhere like afghanistan
>>575563038satisfied? why are you assuming you successfully rolled the PU in 24k rolls? You understand there's 2 new students right?
>>575563009Interesting. I don't care about 3x at all personally, all out on Chiaki. But you do you.
>>575563117
>>575563090Retard the pity only resets if you get the banner you want.
>>575563087It's better either way. We love gambling here otherwise people wouldn't be seething about gacha and were discussing new students instead.
>>575563067It is, but the one we got is the best for the cute kohai they were going for.
>>575563124What would take it to be fixed for you? Would it be refunded tickets at roll thresholds (up to 40 within 200)?
>>575563117Just flip a coin bro
>>575562780I have experienced losing the coinflip 7 times in a row but it is “statistically impossible” according to mathgodsSometimes you just need to experience it to know. They will probably defend it if nexon adds 5 more layers of coinflips because on average it’s 3% better.
>>575563104You don't play the game
>>575563002The coin flips are not my only opportunity within those pulls to get the character. Encountering 3 coin flips at all is something that will take a lot of pulls because I'll get some students before I even hit the flip. Again, there is no scenario now with the free pulls where I'm more likely to get fewer students than I would have on the old system.
>>575563124Yes. It's better unless you're literally the most unlucky sod alive, at which point it's the same.
>>575563124I have some news for youGet fucked
Winning two 75/25 in a row = 56% chanceWinning a 0.7% once in 200 = 75% chanceYou will get fucked by the 50/50You will defend the 50/50Your life for the 50/50
>>575562969>Yes because in the current system you can't fish for spooks at all without wasting your pyros.jesus christ the asswipes defending this shit are "people" who literally wanted to do the complete opposite of everything the other system was meant for, no wonder you're so rabid about it
>>575563124they dangle a carrot in front of you by giving you more pulls the more you spend now
What's the most you ever lost on a coin toss?
>>575563015gacha for chink foidsthe fans had a chink meltdown cuz they were adding someone who's only 99% twink and some other shit
>>575563013They "clarified" that they'd give a bunch of 10 pulls out depending on how many pulls you did on each banner, and it makes it completely in the players favor up to 400 pulls over the old system.
>wasted half a day yesterday downloading ZZZ>played if for hours and still haven't unlocked the ability to spend stamina>wake up today and devs listened and new gacha is objectively better than the current one (at minimum for the first 400 rolls every banner)*sigh*
>>575563160I'll wait until the rerun to max her. Not going to farm her past the dropoff breakpoint this time.
>>575562658>Nobody actually does thisIt's retarded but people do this in other games with pity carry over.
>>575563163>69% vs 34% at the widest gap>I'm supposed to pretend this is bad
>>575561197>gookako threadthese truly are the end of times...
Sorry the new system seems better. If that upsets you. I'm sorry. But... I'm gonna roll. Hahaha! Yeah I get it I get it. You're really upset but... I'm just gonna roll hahahaha!
Mathkeks are the most gullible consoomers lol. They are the equivalent of foids who buy $500 shirts "originally" priced $2000 thinking they saved $1500 instead of wasting $500. John Nexon must be giggling that they are doing the shilling for him for free.
Just woke up, so what's the verdict Hope or Despair ?
>>575563291We love gookako here
>>575561448>you're losing your agency and control with a spark for extra gambling >why are people peeved????
Any other games that have BAs generous 50/50 system
>>575563216Yeah, I fucking love HODLing and skipping for months just to drop it all at once on fes.
>>575563184retards look at averages over the results of the entire fucking playerbase and think their personal results will reflect that on the extremely small set of trials they will actually rundid people suddenly forget you only get 6 free sparks per year?
>>575563208Yes. I didn't give a shit until now, but now the 50/50 is my lord and saviour.
You will not fail 7 coin flips in a row.You will not be struck by lightning.You will not win the lottery.You will not get 211 blaze rods from 305 blaze kills.It does not happen. Math > you.
was doing some extreme mocks to see if I can just OHKO goz and>you can stun goz out of summoning clones at start of P2 if you groggy at the right timehuh? this was a thing? I don't remember this
>>575563279That's what I did with S.Atsuko and then I had to ligma her. Never again.
50% she gets pregnant50% she doesnt
>>575563152Fuck you
>>575563252Sir?I don't know. I couldn't say
So strange for Nexon to suddenly chase gacha revenue when they already make a ton from merch
Remember Mika is right about gehenoids/bag/ should apologize to Mika
>>575563325forgot.your gookshit image
All rolls are 50/50s, you either get what you want or you don't
>>575563327>agency and controlYou're not losing that you stupid bitch. You can still dump 200 down and get the character you want. You just have a chance to get her early at 100. This isn't even accounting for all the pity changes and carry over.
any of the leaks blow up on twitter yet? that brolist_kr guy talked about it a bit but it didn't gain much traction
>>575563019No, the math showed 100(1 banner), 300, 400 was better in the new system. The new info exonerated the 75% vs 64% of getting both in 200 debate. Making the new system better in totality. The ligma of the banners you're pulling for is now the main trade off.
just woke up, did nexon apologize yet?
>>575563413>let them eat cake
>>575563349In every percentile of luck the new system is better.
>>575563163heil Nexon (I'm fucking bored, send help)
IMPORTANT THING TO CONSIDERIf JP has a lead of a few months on updates, ALL regions know to stop investing in Nexon games NOW rather than when the update drops. Not just BA. ALL NEXON GAMES.
STOP SUPPORTING THE GAMEYOU FORGOT TO ASK FOR MY CONSENTTHINK ABOUT HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOU GAMBLING
>>575563414
>>575563278>wake up today and devs listened and new gacha is objectively better than the current one (at minimum for the first 400 rolls every banner)what are the new adjustments?
>>575563447Yes. Pulling is now 25% cheaper.
>>575563447Why would they apologize?
/bag/ says comparing new gacha system to old one is high school level math, yet you have been discussing it for days. Are you retarded or something?
>>575563193>Encountering 3 coin flips at all is something that will take a lot of pullsYes, and that's what make 50/50 complete garbage. You do not roll enough to assume you're going to win 50% of the time, and when you lose that flip it's going to suck ass. You say 3 flips is a lot - well the chance again that you lose all of those is 12.5%, and the chance that you lose twice is 37.5%. You are not going to love the new system when that happens and that's why anyone who has played a game with 50/50 hates it. This will be no different.
>>575563336yes, everybody loves that because they're not unfit-to-live levels of retard like you>go into fes prepared for the worst with 2 sparks>get lucky and get both girls in 1>"oh cool I can afford to spark another banner now"you stupid animals have no concept of delayed gratification, no wonder you want a system designed to cultivate and squeeze gambling addicts
>>575563410nexon keeps reporting that blue archive makes them jack shit so I doubt they are seeing most of that money
>>575563152You planned one, you always got one. The rest was a bonus. Now, you have to try for any extra. New system is the simplest gambler trap. You're not smarter, you will not follow the optimal math path, but you refuse to see it.
>>575563356Unfortunately I have tried mihomo's slop on launch for a while.I did infact lose coinflips time and time again and was usually forced into the upper end of pullcount to get anything.I quit that shit over it.I won't be quitting BA, because it actually has a game and story I care about and characters that are entertaining, but I know how bad coinflips feel. I don't need statisticsfags to tell me when I have lived experience with both systems.
>>575563435As long as you don't spend more than 400 rolls per banner period the new system is better for dupes too.
HHIUURGHGHHHH
>>575563515still being raided
STOP CALLING IT GOOK AKO WHEN THE ARTIST IS CHINESE
It's good for storyfagsIt's bad for competitivefagsthat's it.
>>575563528>get lucky and get both girls in 1Literally fucking retarded nigger moment. You are more likely to get both girls in 1 spark under the new system.
>>575563426It's just concept art that will soon be sold. It's not future development material/plans or whatever so it hardly matters.
>>575563285Most of the time it's bait for (You)s. "Oh no, I totally got this character I didn't want in 10 rolls".
Nexon did nothing wrong
>Tuntung sahur>Shark Hoshino>Banana Mika>address me Yumehttps://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/129472491
>Pandemonium means wild uproar, noisy confusion, and total chaos. It describes a place or a moment filled with loud shouts, frantic movement, and a complete lack of order.
>>575563589If it's that simple then I win
>>575563525You just need a vault of ~800-1000 pulls to make sure that never happens. Don't get greedy and save from all the times you get your rate up early.
I love Nexon. They won me over.
>>575563589It isn't though, the 80 free rolls balances out the Eligma too.
Only real /bag/gers reply - is the new system actually good?
>>575563257>it makes it completely in the players favor up to 400 pulls over the old system@plana is this true
>>575563506so that means the new system was at least 25% worse than the old system and they are trying to make it seem not as bad?
>>575563679No.
>>575563574Call me Daryl Dixon because I cannot tell them apart
>>575563528Cool, you can do the same with the new system too.
>>575563574The originals were based off of e7. Then the gooks made gookakos.
>>575563679>Is turning the gacha into hoyoslop with 50/50 and pity over spark good?No
https://x.com/yankeiori/status/2082008410070114503
>>575563679Yes
>>575563163Wait. I thought I was meant to be mad. Why does the new system look better?
>>575563665competitivefags being rank 1-10 whales not barely scraping into platinum shitters
>>575563605>10Pathetic.
>>575563504They give out multiple 10 pulls depending on how much you pull. It works out that the odds are now vastly in the normal players favor over the old system (25% pulls less on average to get both students) while whales will spend more to go past 550 pulls or so.
>>575563592>old: 75% chance>new: 75%*75%=56,25%nigger
>>5755631933 coinflips will take you two months if you only pull on good banners. If you lose more than 50% coinflips this FES, it will take you half year to recover. No math will show you that.
>>575563589Storyfags can just watch the story on YouTube
>>575563679it's kami
>>575563679No
>>57556367950-50You either win or you lose
>>575563610they do though
>>575563679apparently better than the old system with the free pulls you get now. I still don't like it but I'll probably get used to it, I'd have preferred if they just added a 50/50 and spark carry-over to the existing systemalso they're removing the standard banner and archive banner still uses the old system
>>575563679Much better, but there is a higher variance so you have so save when you get luckly for the times of bad luck. Don't get greedy and constantly throw your pulls away.
>>575563645Wow, it's literally me
Surely you guys are gonna back up your words and quit the game if nothing changes, right ? Or is the time sunk so high you're gonna cope by saying "I'LL STAY BUT ONLY AS AN F2P!"
>>575563747Fucking retarded braindead monkey nigger. Not accounting for the rebates.
>>575563740>recruit 200 studentscome here little one, get your smooch
>>575563504Free tenner at 70, 130, 150, 170, 270, 330, 350, and 370 rolls.
>>575563539Yeah, so the new system also gets you one with the same luck, and the bonus is an extra 50/50 that creates an opportunity to stop at 100 rolls instead of rolling 200
Now that Blue Archive is dead please play our series. Its fully offline and single player !
>>575563803There is no higher variance. At every percentile of luck the new system is better.
>>575563798>>575563803Go back to your hoyo general
>>575563679I'm a /bag/got not a /bag/ger you faggot. Also yes.
>>575563814>"I'm just gonna burn some more pyros for a few (((free))) pulls!
>>575563789wait, so it can be played in Germany now?
>>575563747Your free rolls forehead?
>>575563789>Netherlands>Belgium>SlovakiaWhy those?
>>575563814Rebates doesn't mean anything. It's useless slop to get you to gamble.
>>575563857What the fuck is Edna doing in Japan?
The fact that they have to give you free pulls should tell you how much of a scam the new system is.
>>575561589>Before the bandaid ticketsHow they work exactly and how many you get exactly and when?
>>575563525Worst case scenario is spending 400 pulls for the two guaranteed drops and this will happen less often than I currently have to spend 400 to double spark. If you are not whaling for dupes it is objectively better at every level.
>>575563757but having your favorite students in your account can give you more emotional attachment
>at worst, in this new situation, you only have to spend 160 instead of 200, at the cost of no more 1 student and 1 spark.Tell me /bag/, how many times did you get one student then spark another?
>>575563835nyMutsuki took my first spark virginity.
>>575563747Would you please consult the graph: >>575563278
>>575563873If you spend 24000 if your own pyro you have a higher chance of getting both students. Retard.
>>575563898Belgium has anti gacha (virtual Gambling) laws. Not sure about the others
>>575563898Stricter gambling laws
>>575563172>refundcalling a partial refund a "refund" is misleading
>>575562982https://x.com/noshi_leyu
>>575563898>gacha bad >:(
>>575563947Now that I think about it, it was Makoto for me.
>>575563863what
>>575563916>They introduce a new system where you get a free pull every pull>Man imagine how much of a scam that is
Forgib
>muh free>muh rebatesliterally "I'm actually saving by spending more, it'll go towards my Costco card"-tier thinkingpityniggers are total fucking goycattle
>>575563913To become the next Melody MarksFun fact : Edna has same voice actor as Ibuki
>>575564005Kill chewy.
>>575563359What P2, he literally dies in 1 bAris EX.
>muh average when you have 6-7 sparks a year
So it's okay to crosspost from the other tab when it's leaks now?Koyuk anon posts there exclusively for a reason. Now normalfaggots will be all "LE HAXX0R NAMED 4CHAN LEAKED GAME DATA" or some shit. Thanks faggots
>extreme goz is still OHKO it's going to be torment to plat, isn't it...
>>575563945The point is that it's more likely to get 1 student with 100 pulls under the new system than get 1 student with 190 pulls under the old one.
>>575563996Tell us how the boot tastes.
>>575564023Spend exactly 24000 and not a single pyro more and the new system is better.
>>575563846As I said you lost control. You are more likely to stop at 100, but also go over 200. They will make sure you are more motivated to do the second. They control all aspects of the game. It's basic merchant math and you fell for it.
>>575563920You get rewards every X number of pulls, some of which are free 10 pull tickets that can only be used on the current banner. You get 40 across 200 pulls and 80 across 400 (but no more for going above this).
>>575563945In the last 6 months, 7 / 10 of the banners I rolled on - two of those I got 2 rateup students and sparked a 3rd since it was a re-run banner, which I imagine skews the odds even more in favor of the old system.I've a good enough memory to go over the prior 6 months if you want more anecdotes.
>>575564042Within 10 banner statistically the entire games population will be even or ahead.
>>575563809Why quit the game you love when that's the same as dissent being silenced from Nexon's perspective? Why roll over and consign yourself to defeat when that is the worst option?
>>575564049Quit whinging faggot BOOHOO
>>575563859If you lose multiple 50/50 in a row it becomes objectively worse than the old one, that's why you need to save a bit from all the times you get lucky in case that happens. Some people will genuinely get bad luck spells of 4-5 50/50 lost in a row. Basically think of the 25% cheaper thing as the budget you'll leave aside to accumulate pulls for the eventual bad luck 50/50 spell.
>>575563945>Tell me /bag/, how many times did you get one student then spark another?almost every single banner. in the span of a year there's exactly 2 times where I didn't get 2 or 3 students in one spark
>>575564049You got banned in the last thread.
>>575563972thanks
>>575563747Did you drop out of middle school?
>>575564076You are not more likely to go over 200 retarded nigger.
>>575564023>Get more for literally the same money.>THAT'S A SCAM! I WANT TO GET LESS!
>>575563859Why are you lying?
>>575564049As a lmao2caker I always thought it was faggy how leaks were shared only in moi, but I wouldn't say that there. I know others think the same.
>>575564073sure bro, here's your free hotdog
>>575564042>>575564081
>>575563996Don't the changes proove that all the retards that were claiming yesterday the new system was better because "muh, maths" were utterly WRONG?!
>>575564025*Iroha Im Drunk
>>575563996yes nexon the arbiter of generosity. they might as well wire me the free money directly to my account.what this tell us is that the new system was bad enough for players that nexon can shit out free pulls AND they still expect to make more profit than the old systemgraphniggers need to off themselves
The new system is worse. My butthurt says more than any math ever could.
>>575564040yeah that's what I did nextbut I've never seen it used for higher difficulty clears and it feels like it would come in handy?
>>575564023This is a Costco general touristnigger. Also do you not have any hobbies? Your life is pathetic.
>>575563732far as I am aware it is better now with the refunds, basically.50/50 still feels bad, if you've never lost it, and I still prefer the idea of certainty to gambling, but I am personally not very mad.Still not spending money on Blue Archive, though. Mostly because the way they delivered this information was embarrassing and slapdash.>snuck it into a half anniversary stream--a massive change to a core function of the game. Barely explained it>PD retweets someone ELSE defending the system. Gets so btfo for cowardly hiding behind someone else, he removes the RT>the full explanation of the system is tucked away in a twitter reply rather than its own post>all replies to concerns about the system are met with a copypaste reply>absolutely no addressing of misgivings or of the irritation with all aforementioned behavior, despite having apologized in the past for much less iffy transgressions
old system: forced to roll 200new system: roll to 100, if win leave, if lose roll to 200 (40 roll rebate)>NO NO NO WHY ARE YOU GAMBLING AT 100 YOU HAVE TO SPEND 200 YOU ADDICT
>>575564136>I WANT TO GET LESS!...is what the people defending the new gacha said
>>575564154There were no changes, this system was literally talked about in the stream. In fact, the good system just got way better.
>>575563940Then how does this benefit storyfags when they get screwed on the 50/50? And don't have their favorite students anyway?
>>575564092>6 months, 7
>>575563945A lot. I almost always got both before or at 200. imari was the only thing I went over 200 to get iwappi at 230. I have about 200 students atm.
>>575564138Point to where the old system is better in >>575563163
>>575564081test
>>575564190>get student at 190>now instead of 10 rolls you have to spend up to 200Nexon loves you
>>575563983>MakotoThen you can stop calling me new ya little shit. I sat on a spark stockpile waiting for Pandemonium to release.
>>575563898Pretty sure Belgium is the only of those three that has actual anti loot box laws, the other two tried to ban them but didn't succeed, but because of that nexon still blocks them because of "risk factor"
>>575564113I just woke up mate. I'm just sick of the shitty hypocrisy some of the posters here have for our fellow /bag/. Traitors until they somehow benefit you. What a joke
>>575564154Yes, the backlash destroyed them.
>>575563679I really don't like 50/50, but given I usually go to 200 regardless the new system seems a bit better than the old, plain and simple.
>>575564154No. Before it was an 11% improvement, with higher variance making larger pools of both winners and losers. With the new changes, it's unambiguously ahead at every point, and a 25% improvement overall.
>>575564154Who the fuck cares? Yesterday's system no longer exists. We are discussing today's system, which is better in every way. Or do you want a worse system for some reason? Curious.
>>575563679For the average player? No.If you try to get two or more banner students with a single spark (200 pulls), your odds of achieving that will be lower now.That's the main reason they are implementing this new system, a lot of people were getting multiple students with a single spark, and that's bad for business.
>>575564080So... they made that the first 400 pulls is pretty much same as before, but from 400 onwards the system is still lot worse than before?I mean, that's an improvement but is still kind of bullshit
>>575564263All math has shown the new system is worse at 200 though?
>>575564250If belgium won the world cup we wouldn't be dealing with this right now.
>The damage control startedWell, as long as I get more free shit that's fine
>>575564106>If you lose multiple 50/50 in a row it becomes objectively worse than the old oneWrong. Losing the 50/50 is equal to getting to 200 with no pick-up. With the new system you get one student with 91-160 pulls, with the old one you get 1 with 200 pulls. How is going to 200 multiple times in a row any better?
>$1.50 hot dog and unlimited drink refills is bad actuallyWhat is this dude on about?
>>575564265>Nexon wants you to spend 25% less, please believe me guys
>>575564237Then you should be happy. With your good luck you have a higher chance of getting both students in 200 of your own rolls now.
>>575564248>get student at 190This occurrence in the old system is the equivalent of winning the 50/50 in the new system
>>575564309New is better at 200>>575563163
>>575564190>old system: not actually forced to roll, only go to 200 if you lose>if you win, you get 2 students, on average you save 50 pulls>new system>here's a dick in your mouth in case you were tired of choking on your stupidity and want to try something else
>>575563968even you're calling it a refund, though. Same way I did, that it is not a full refund. I specified the number, you said partial
>>575564346Hotdogs?!
>>575564252Sorry, I just don't believe in tiptoeing around trannies. Just accept the name you were born with, which is not /bag/.
What time is it /bag/?
>>575563885That is the actual game package, the restriction for germany is on the steam page itself instead.
>>575564131Math doesn't lie. Stopping at 200 means you lost more in long term than previously.
>>575564358>my chatgpt graph proves it
>>575564263If they are honest they would just keep the old system, increase the base 0.7% to whatever new base rate that matches the expected value of the current new system. Or they could keep the old and add the rebate on top but of courfth thewonfpikvnm
>>575564351Don't spend more retard.Have you considered that one?
>>575564248Less likely than rolling to 200 and getting nothing, forcing a spark, on the old system. Same outcome but you saved 1200 pyro. Say thank you.
>>575564276>, which is better in every way.Only during the first 400 rolls, after that it gets worse.Is something only the whales will suffer and is mitigated because whales can buy elephs instead of more pyros, but it needs to be pointed out
>>575564049It's not a secret that some people browse both cakes. Always find it funny one dislikes other unless if it contains important files or leaks like datamine and concept arts
>>575564238It's better if you're a luckchad that got everyone you wanted and can still spark more.
>>575564351Believe the math, rather than idiots crying about how bad their gambling simulator "feels"
>>575564408They should leave the old system unchanged so the retards who don't understand math get punished.
>>575564414>just accept that they replaced the thing everyone liked with something objectively worse
>>575564392Time to spurt and gurt?
>>575564419Buddy nobody cares.
I can't believe people care enough about rankings for Hardcore that they do malding with maid Aris instead of using mecha Aris
>>575564408What I'd really rather is 60/40 or otherwise better odds. 50/50 truly feels like shit and has demoralized me out of playing other games
>>575564276>Or do you want a worse system for some reason? Curious.nta but I don't see why not. this applies to a lot of situations, not just this>love your wife>she's just average, not particularly cute, not particularly intelligent, just average and plain>one day someone barges into your house, takes your wife with him, and replaces her with a model that's objectively a massive upgrade in every single aspect>you don't care because you loved your plain wife and life with her was fulfilling>new wife looks good but you don't love her, it just doesn't hit the samesee what I mean? sometimes the "good old" is more comforting and alluring even if it's worse
>>575564158there's no arguing with pity shillsthey've convinced themselves they've ascended past the psychological traps hardwired into their brains by evolution and there's no changing the mind of someone who thinks they're above their own nature
Pull so Iroha doesn't flop
>>575564427What specific number of your own rolls spent gives you a higher chance of getting both students under the old system?
>>575564442so which chinkslop(s) do you play?
>>575564352But now the choice is taken away and if I get the pickup I start over at 0. Not good.
>>575564417Oh, no! Not my heckin' whalerinos! Now they'll need to spent 1% more on the game!What level of cope are we on Rajesh?
>>575564465YES
>>575564509>higher chanceDoesn't matter, luck niggers simply get everything they want.
The changes are great if you roll for every single banner, and all students are the same student, and also not a student but a gray blob without a form.
>>575564248They added 40 free pulls every 200 rolls the first 400 rolls.So now things are about even the first 400 rolls
>>575564361>winning in the old system is better than losing in the new system!Wow anon, you cracked the code. Have you considered that it's not like the newer system has lower rates so winning in the old system should have an equal chance as winning in the new system for that specific roll?
>>575564515Just Blue Archive. I played Dragalia Lost before, but it got shut down.
>>575564505I want her to flop on my bed
the koreans found us looking at themhttps://arca.live/b/bluearchive/178248309
>>575564523You can still make that choice. If you get the pickup roll until you spent 200 (240 total including the free rolls) anyway and you are still better off.
>>575564547Yeah, actually. The math doesn't lie. I don't know why you're saying it like that.
>>575564294The first 400 are significantly better now rather than the same. Going above is significantly worse because they want you to buy eleph from the store instead of pyro to pull for dupes to get it.
>>575564485Hm? Don't a lot of people mald the first few days of any raid just for shits and giggles?It's kind of fun trying to optimize a true best performance.
>>575564502they've been in the trenches of pity hell and they're convinced everything else is just as bad so they call everyone a "gambling addict"
>pityniggers accusing others of defending "gambling"
>>575564408The point of 50/50 is to put you under pressure. Averaging the rate over 200 pulls is exactly what they don't want to.
>>575564287That's yesterday's narrative jeetbro. They reveled milestone rewards today which puts it ahead even at 200. Try to keep up.
>>575564501YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!THIS NIGGA MARRIED THE FUCKING GACHA!
>>575564498I tried playing a Hoyo game once, and the 50/50 was so dogshit of a gacha system that I dropped the game on the spot despite enjoying the story and gameplay.
>>575564336All I'm saying is that while the new system is clearly better the only caveat it can have is that you lose multiple 50/50 in a row (more than 4). If that happens you may genuinely run out of resources for what you want to pull regardless of it being 25% cheaper now. You have to account for that only weakness and save during all the times you get lucky or win multiple 50/50 in a row because the bad luck spell at 50/50 will happen to everyone eventually.
>>575564346Regularly eating ultra-processed foods and processed meats significantly increases your risk of developing several types of cancer
>>575562780>don't trust the math only trust whatever Nexon says it isIs this really the hill you're dying on?
Why is this the only place on the entire internet where people are defending the change?
>>575564678NOOOOO TRUST THE MATH, TRUST THE AVERAGE OVER LITERAL INFINITE PULLS
who won?who lost?
>>575564678Losing multiple 50/50s in a row and losing every 0.7% is not the same chance of losing every 0.7% under the old system.
>>575562780nobody likes it, so insisting "it's good actually. We're not sorry" would make people much, much, MUCH angrier
>>575564718It's not though. You're reading yesterdays news. We're all 50/50 boys now.
I'm in the Flow state. I never lose.
Niggers talking about psychological traps and math this ain't underwater backgammon. If you like a student you roll, if you don't then you save.
>>575564419It’s probably just one really loud schizo who loves the tranny word and probably wasn’t even around when this site was down, kek
>>575564678That's the same as arguing that if it takes 300-400 pulls every time to get both characters under the old system you might run out of resources.
>>575564735HinaHoshino
>>575564748But it is? Even just look at the newest BA tweets and all the Japanese replies are mad.
>>575564678Wouldn't the exact same luck just equate to a 0 PU 400 roll in the old system?
>>575564579These people can't comprehend this sort of self control. Without the hard limit of the spark they feel like they're wasting rolls if they're not rolling up to a (now higher) fixed breakpoint like the 50/50, even though if they simply decided to continue rolling 200 exactly and then stopping every time they'd get better results than they currently do for the same pyro.
More gehenna meansmore Ako I hope
>>575562780because they know the real reason behind the pity system, and it ain't about rates, it's about exploiting weaknesses in the human mind that the shills totally think they themselves don't have
>>575564769>>575564787I'm not even thinking about the old system at this point, that's done for and is clearly worse. I'm just saying for the new one, that's its only weakness.
>>575564787Losing 4 50/50s in a row is a 1/16 chance. The chance of double sparking in the old system is 1/16.
>>575564764what if I want to build pity?
>>575564764Go back to Honkai Star Rail
We lost...........Original Blue Archive artist won.............
>>575564750Still bald and a loser though
>pityniggers accusing others of having no self control
>>575564678I hate the coinflip shit, but if you really want something then you should always be assuming having to go to the full 200 hard pity, just like you should have been when sparking.I was never going to go into Pandemoniumfes with less than 4 sparks, even if fuckers in the past would mock that kinda pessimism with>Bro you're not going to fail to get 1 rateup in x00 pullsThis may be a gacha, but I do not gamble over characters I want if I can avoid it. If I get them all in 2 sparks then great, the pyros I didn't need to spend don't vanish.It'll be the same under the new system - the coinflip milestones will just be morale destroyers that I'd rather not have had to deal with.
>>575564735BA won, the jeet call center is in shambles.>>575564785Damn, they must be retarded then. Shamefuru dispray.
>>575563679Yes>it feels worseI'm not a woman so I don't care about how it feels.
>>575564829Not exactly btw because you can also get the second student off-banner on the 0.0204% chance per roll. 2% in 100 rolls, which does happen sometimes. A lot more often during FES when the chance is like 20x higher.
>>575564735With the new changes>who won?No one, really, most people stays the same it was>who lostWhales
>>575564787Yes, and his scenario is less likely than that is currently.
>>575564832You have enough of that Sensei.
>>575564735NexonUs
>>575564910Tell us the purely logical zero-feels reason why you like this game and its students.
>>575564829The math doesn't work like that.
>>575564910>I'm not a woman so I don't care about how it feels.What non-feeling based reason are you rolling the students for?
>>575564735Nexon.Yostar.
>>575562263They are making fun of you for not understanding their sarcasm...
>>575564951>>575564951It objectively makes my cock hard. Pure logic.
>removed permanent bannerI wonder why?
>>575564829Every single gacha change defender is actually this stupid
>>575564832imagine getting a pity from gacha game, what a pathetic human sorry subhuman
This /bag/ is the browner of the two.
>>575564829Why are you 200 sparking while not letting the 200 pity trigger?
>>575563679Yeah, but our twitter and reddit friends Xi Jinpoo and Jose Xepooxcotl, who obviously speak for the whole BA community, especially the Japanese one, aren't happy. They're saying we should be angry, spam elephant pics and updoot their posts.
>>575564965My dick gets hard is a physiological reaction not a feeling
>new system>best case normalyou get 2 rate-up in 1-200 pull>best case pity (win 50/50 two times)100 × 2 = 200 - 40 = 160>worst case pity (lose 50/50 two times)200 × 2 = 400 - 80 = 320>old system>best case1 rate-up from 1-200, 1 spark (200)>worst case 2 spark (400)Assuming you always save at least 200 rolls per banner, the new system has a "better" cushion, but a worse jackpotAlso a reminder not to forget your pyroxene and free 10-ticket from raid.
>>575565005did anyone ever seriously roll on that garbage?
>>575564951Best gacha rates on the market, best aesthetics and an entertaining story. It's simply logical to choose it.
>>575565003It's purely logical then that you don't even need to play the game for that.
>>575565005Because who the fuck would even roll on those?
>>575564910real men are dull slabs
>>575564785Japs post on topic, it's SEA monkeys and other third worlders that spam this shit under every tweet.
If the new system is better, why don't they explain it to us instead of letting others who love the change explain it to us?Why do they need to give out some gibs when rolling out the gacha banner? I thought the new gacha update would be good for us?
>>575565067>tourist advocating for not playing the gameSays everything
>if I get lucky with a spark I can get 2 students in 200 rolls>but if I get very unlucky with pity I will need 320 rolls>this clearly proves that the new system is worse!!!Are you people genuinely retarded?
>>575565089where are you from?
>>575561197bakers reminder to fix the thread number
>>575564829You're saving 80 pulls now instead of raw dogging 400. There are also only 2 50/50s inside that double spark.
>>575565141Got it
you… you… PITYNWORD!!
>>575565064All of those are subjective, not logical, and they all lead to feelings. Best gacha rates - why does that matter at all? Because you feel like it does. Same with having good aesthetics. It's literally all feelings.
>>575565102I agree.Someone e-mail Kim, he need to get here ASAP.
>>575565089nta but I only posted once under the first announcement. no point in spamming this shit everywhere, they probably don't even read their SNS in the first place
>>575565005no one used it nigga
>>575565121>Are you people genuinely retarded?Yes, these people are genuinely retarded.
>>575565102Because then they would need to explain they are making the whales spend more to continue past getting the new students.
>>575565102they're retardedbut also, the optics of openly defending the system when so many despise 50/50 are actually worse than playing dumb. Because, they're not going to change it, so the ONLY actual solution that will satisfy people is removing the 50/50not gonna happen
>>575565102>if the system were so good then why did they include the thing that makes it good in the first placeAre you retarded?
>>575564829Are you under the impression the 200th and 400th pulls are 50/50s? They're not, they're guaranteed to be the pick up student.
>dude just like never pull it's finethese are the same fags questioning your motivations for playing the game in the first place
>>575565203I'm not your nigga, buddy
>>575565074There's probably some incredibly niche scenario where people could end up losing a coinflip and then having a guarantee in 100 more pulls tops saved up.You could use GA tickets that were expiring on the standard banner to avoid activating that guarantee, since they were different banner types.That requires someone to be dumb enough to spend 100 rolls on a banner they don't like and be smart enough to be thinking about GA tickets activating it though, which seems unlikely.The banner was a pyro trap and I imagine they just couldn't be bothered with whatever work would be needed to update it if anything.
>>575561747hurrrr durrrrrrr FUCKING RETARD
This is a once per account thing by the way. It's not per banner, it's to ease you into the new system.You don't get ANY extra pulls in the repeatable version.It's literally just another predatory system to make you go "just 20 more pulls, then I'll get this bonus reward, pity will be saved anyway"
why is no one posting they TA clear team?
>>575565167
>1 hour threadShould I bake a gookseia bread next?
>>575565005to nerf GA tickets>hit 100 50/50>lose>your next pity is guaranteed but you dont have enough jims to hit 200>get GA ticket that expires before new banner is up>you are forced to risk guarantee or let your GA ticket expire
live ASMR...
>>575565108Not an argument. I pointed out the obvious flaw in your "logic". Feel free to concede to being a retard who doesn't think for more than 5 seconds.
>>575565186Madam, please control yourself. This is not the time nor the place for hysterics.
gookRena is my new favorite gook
>>575565005It's solely cuz no one used it. Why after 5 years? Why right as we introduce pity? Don't worry about that!
get fucked gehenners nobody discussing your fes because most anons are too busy seething about muh math, muh 50/50, muh feeling and muh pity
>>575565318You don't have any logic. Your argument is entirely emotion based
>>575565186My feelings are detached from the gacha. As long as I can more students so the exact underlying mechanics do not matter to me.
>>575565285>This is a once per account thing by the wayBetter practice your reps bwo
Just keep the old sysytem and only add the 50/50 at 100 pulls. Everyone is satisfied. Maybe except the investors.
>>575565285Where does it say that it is only once per account and doesn't reset for every banner?
when will this shit flinging war end? I just was see and post funne BA imejisfuck you nexon
>>575565285>eop retard
guys they were totes going to do the rebates thing before people complained, trust me
>>575565345I accept your concession.
This gook forum is a gold mine why do you not post it more often to remind me to check on the schizo posts there.
>>575565285Get on that Anki bro.
>>575565285>Spitting up liesThis is just pathetic.
>>575565428>they were totally going to do the thing they literally said they were going to do in the initial announcement all alongYes which is why they said they were going to do it.
>>575565391Just keep the old system unchanged and let people choose between the two. The retards who don't want their feelings hurt from losing 50/50s can fall further and further behind.
>>575565404tomorrow bread will be better once the update is up
>>575565285sou desu ne...
>>575565043Yeah, after the adjustment we are about the same that we were or slightly better.Which shows everyone claiming new system was better yesterday was plainly wrong
Mental retard EFL is using math and graphs in a gacha game where everything is literally based on astrology, luck, and the blessing of the Holy Spirit.Absolutely hilarious this is what happens when you inhale nippongo retards’ farts too often.
>>575565285>「募集回数特典」のカウント数は「呼び出しチャージ」とは異なり、次回ピックアップ募集へ持ち越すことはできず、現在開催中のピックアップ募集期間が終了した際には、カウントや報酬獲得状況がリセットされます。 >Unlike "Summon Charges," the "Recruitment Count Reward" count cannot be carried over to the next featured recruitment event. The count and reward acquisition status will be reset when the current featured recruitment period ends.
>>575565404When I rape nexon a bit more and increase the rebate to 50 rolls.
>>575564401Sure lets just ignore all the times you were forced to go to 400 which is far less likely now
>>575565346>As long as I can more studentsKek you're so mad you can't even type properly
>>575565285>現在開催中のピックアップ募集期間が終了した際には、カウントや報酬獲得状況がリセットされます。 It's per banner period you audacious retard
>>575565428they did mention that there would be rewardsHowever >>575565491I do think that it is somewhat likely that they changed the rewards based on the backlash.Otherwise, they would have advertised it from the start, and not, yknow, after everything went on fire
>If I get very lucky in the spark system I'm still guaranteed the option to pick up an extra copy for elephs at 200>If I get too lucky in the pity system I get jackshit aside from "free" pulls because the charge keeps resetting before I can take advantage of roll 100Pity SUCKS
>>575565343>Causes untold chaos>Introduces the best gacha system on the market because of itHow does she do it!
Jesus loves you.
>>575565502surely
>>575565508It was also better yesterday, just less so. Now it's much, much better, and in all cases.
All it took was one fes for Gehenna to become /bag/s most hated school
>>575565430About gehenna and odyssey being originally the same academy from the emblem in the trailer
>>575565576Pray for my pyros
>>575565005Has anyone one pointed out it's most likely because of the recruitment ticket banner which is objectively better and more new player friendly
>>575565563Yeah the specifics were obviously something they were going to adjust based on feedback so ironically people complaining so much has net us the best case scenario. Thanks Chinks.
>>575565228so many despise 50/50 because???
>>575565502>Thread will be better when the clowns have a bunch of screenshots of nips losing their coinflips to shitpost with
>>575565602>the 'O' in the Odyssey was Austriaholy fuck
>>575565554This graph doesn't account for the free pulls.It's better at all pull counts now:>>575563163
>>575565508It was better, but by only 12-18 pulls instead of 45-50 like it is now.
>>575565554Outdated, you missed the whole rebate saga. tldr they give you 10 pulls based on how much you pull.
so we gucci now?
>>575565639it feels badyou might say the usual line "psh, feelings" but it really does feel like shit
>>575565657>"shitpost" with proofkike
>>575565590>It was also better yesterdayDo you seriously think they added 40 free rolls for no reason?
>>575565696Reisa owes me money.
>>575565285Retard.
>>575565285You lost, AO-shitter.
>>575565597That was already the caseThey have 3 clubs dedicated to terrorism
>>575565439Midori and Momoi mouths...
>>575565282>no replyGet mentally raped brown boy.
>>575565404>mfw I spent the last three days rage baiting both sides of the argument
Yeah, I'm thinking we won.
>>575565343same, they mocked tea party summer and I will do the same to them
I can't math but new system is better since old systemfags need to keep lying about the bonuses to stay relevant
>>575565121Double sparking is not standard practice because pyro income is limited if you don't buy pakeji200 is a reasonable amount to save up and lose for a single student, with a GOOD chance at 2. 300 is not, 400 is even less soDouble sparking is not the standard you should be judging this by, we do not get enough pyros to burn 300/400 on the regular especially with acceleration
>>575565590>Nexon doubles down>Shills double down as well
Yes goyimThe NEXON videogame company only wanted you to have to spend less moneyThey made a convoluted change to a beloved system everyone was familiar with, faced tons of backlash, and lost a lot of community goodwillAll because they're so kind they wanted you to spend less moneyTrust it boy
>>575565696Sorry I'm poor can't afford a gucci. Best I can do is chink gucci
>>575565508The new system without the rebate was better for anyone with a brain and saved responsibly. There's no point in discussing it anymore because the new system is better in unequivocally every scenario up to 400 and anyone who argues otherwise is just baiting. Even if you have a dumb monkey brain that needs to spend 200 no matter what on every banner the new system is better.
>>575565285
>>575565714>Shitposts by cherrypicking the times it goes horribly wrong>About a system we have no control overYes, shitposts. And I say this as someone that would rather not have the feelsbad coinflip system making me feel like I've been gyped when I'm trying to sit down and get a student I like.
>>575565793Don't you know bugs are high in protein?
>>575565568I got Reisa and Suzumi in 110 pulls, went to 200 for elephs and I believe I shouldn't have done that.
>>575565824Kek
>>575565710alright but what else? spit it out, is it because it reminds you of something else?having a 50% chance to get the students you want halfway through your 200 pulls an insanely higher chance than what we had before, you'd be dumb to want that specific part removed
>>575565726They probably did do it because people complained, but even without the rebates it's still an 11% average improvement.
>>575563163This looks slightly offWas it based on random simulations instead of exact math?
>>575565568Posts like these just prove that people who hate the change are just too stupid to perform multiple factor analysis. Your small feeble brain can only compare 2 things at once. Anything more complicated and your brain explodes.
>>575563857just looked this up and it says it's ass
>>575565678>>575563163This does not count with this possibility >>575564912, where you get the offbanner target in the range of 210-390 rolls and you can retroactively use the saved up spark to get the remaining student. Meanwhile new system forces you to get the banner student instantly on 200th, which means you then have a 3.8% chance after switching banners to get a dupe of the banner you got from pity.
>>575565868>muh averageretard
have you done your part /bag/
are the gooks still here? do you guys know Kyoani Incident? any plan to do the same to nexon hq?
>>575565857>alright but what else? spit it out, is it because it reminds you of something else?>having a 50% chance to get the students you want halfway through your 200 pulls an insanely higher chance than what we had before, you'd be dumb to want that specific part removedI'm just telling you like it is, I don't particularly mind the new system with the rewards because overall chances are better even at 200 (where, prior to the announcement of rewards, the system was not better at 200).
>>575565692I'm saying it was ALREADY better before that.
What so those tickets are just extra pulls? The whole system is still designed to make you roll more and spend moreAlso, doesn't getting rid of the permanent banner also kill Newfags ability to easy reroll
>>575565776>Double sparking is not the standard you should be judging this byYes, so the next best standard should be losing 200 rolls equally on both systems and using each system's unique interventions to see which one is more efficient
>>575565897>says the ooga booga I need to roll my coin flips pitynigger
>>575565793Win-win is a thing in real life, devs are squeezing the game's deep pool of content dry to extract more value from it than in the past.
>>575565964Only budget 200 and never go more then. The new system is still better.
>>575565948
>>575565885X-axis is paid pulls. Each jump is the free pulls you're now getting and assuming you use them
>>575565983See? Absolutely moronic response.
>>575565948they wont do shit
>>575565964>The whole system is still designed to make you roll more and spend moreNo it's not, it's literally just an upgrade to the old one. See >>575563278
why is nobody addressing the real issue with the new patch? they're nerfing Koharu!
>>575565952Ah
>>575565914This is true. Wonder how much it shifts the odds by. Might let the old system creep ahead at 200 since that's where they're closest.
>>575565897Says the retard that can only consider expected average outcomes instead of considering all possible scenarios.
>burn 300 rolls every time you roll instead of 200>you now roll 4 times a year instead of 6BUY PAKEJI
>>575565937Thanks for bitching for us JPchads. Not like you retards are gonna do anything about it though.
>>575565964Your FES Archive banner that's available for 3 days on every new accounts? Why would newfags waste rolls on some random banner with no spark or pity target?
>>575565948Don't.
>>575565964>The whole system is still designed to make you roll more and spend moreNO! the new system is designed for whales to spend on ligmas on the shop through expensive packages instead of pyros>Also, doesn't getting rid of the permanent banner also kill Newfags ability to easy rerollYou still get the tutorial roll, and you get lots of miyakos from losing 50/50
>>575566054>ahead at 200As I said, it's only a relevant concern above 200.
guh
>>575566059You can still only spend 200 every time and be better off.
>>575565857With the old system, people were mostly fine with whatever they got with 200Now they will be tempted to roll for more and more, even though they would be better off if they stuck with what they got for 200It's high level gambling psychology.
Another gookako or whatever gook thread please
>>575566059Just plan your pulls same as before retard the new system is better than the old one in every way
Reminder that the Nexon hater is a known /vg/ schizo.
>>575566009is the content in the room with us right now
>>575565964>rolling more for free is bad actually
>>575566045No!!!
>>575566058>all possible scenarioBut that's literally you though. The new system has a much better worst case scenario due to pity only being 160 and 320 respectively and the 50/50 raising your chances and you're more likely to get both students in 200 rolls. Literally no matter what aspect you judge the new system on it's an improvement.
>>575565554literally never, 245 students, always 2 inside 200 pulls, get fucked, only hoyoretards could think this is a good change
>>575565937I don't even play on global but yes I did leave a negative review. I will decide if I change it to positive based on my first 50/50.
You do know if the system was actually bad for players they wouldn't have a need to change it
>>575566150
Can't Steam do something about this?
>>575566141Don't get tempted then
would >we be happy if they at least let us select which student to spook us at the coinflip?
>>575566045Who else but Koharu...
Miya/Seia ASMR sales day 2Miyo is about to pass Serina's ASMR...
>>575565885Probably. The bumps would imply that the basic rate is not constant in new calculation. The only thing that changed is one added 50% pull.
>>575565285time to commit sudoku disingenuous summaryfag
>>575566058You're using outdated info from before today. The new system is better than the old one in literally every scenario now.
>>575565793Whales will have to spend more.
>>575566012>The new system is still better.well, yeah, NOW. After internet exploded.I bet the initial plan was to give one single 10 pull ticket at the very end of the ladder of acumulated pull rewards.Now they made it 40 pulls.
>>575566141>Now they will be tempted to roll for more and moreCould you actually define the new goals that spawn per more and more?
>>575566045Koharu still has a black void under there, lame
I just really like the Pandemonium alts.I can't wait for /bag/ to shut the fuck up yapping about a system that we have absolutely no control over.I'm more assblasted by the new character improvement system not gelling thematically.
>>575566248>source: my ass
so we are friend and peace now?
so which gacha has the best pity systemactual /bag/gots need not reply
>>575566218I liked Serina's ASMR...
>>575566218Miyo raped me....
>>575566286People need to just accept the new and improved gacha is here to stay and stop crying like boomers because there's something new
>>575566212You literally can already do that.
>>575566273Is it because the panties and the skirt is one combined poly/texture? I swear they all had panties
>>575566316Real life.
>>575566316Your momI have 100% chance of fucking her
>>575566289Lol, both side are like isreal and palestine, zero chance to be friend
>>575566289Don't associate my nigga Black Suit with that kike
>>575566289>so we are friend and peace now?Can they not even afford Indians now?
>>575566045Unplayable. I will now quit.
Everyone, especially you JP senseis, you cannot tell me you are swayed by this bandaid "fix", this is the most blatant damage control.For us overseas people, they are introducing a pull tracker that based on number of pulls you do on a banner, you get rewards like a free ticket, up to 8, so they are saying they want you to go for 320 fucking pulls EVERY banner. Once you've accumulated the first time rewards, then we get repeat rewards for the rest of the banner's period.This is an attempt to make us shut up, they know we are protesting but they insist on their bullshit, they are trying to distract us with bonus rewards to cover up the new garbage gacha system, keep spamming negative reviews and their contact form.
>>575566337>like boomersgo back, /bag/ is a boomer general
>>575566316nikke (spark carries over)trickcal (nikke but no limited characters so you can spark anyone at any time, better qol on other ways of getting characters)
>>575566218JPbros the boycott???
>>575566164And what I'm pointing out is that if someone is too lucky that they keep getting pick-ups before reaching the 100th roll for the coinflip then the new system does jackshit for them while the old system could still benefit them with extra elephs. You are only looking at it with a lucklet's perspective and that's why you have to calculate your rolls lmao.
any news on the new gamemode?
>>575566383Koharu specifically has a void. I don't think she's the only character like that, but the vast majority don't have a void (including OShigure and SHanako--you can see their bare chibi butts)
>>575565948do it yourself
>>575566059You now need to prepare only 320 pulls to guarantee both bluefes students instead of 400. If you always prepare for the worst case scenario what everyone always advises, even you're a mathlet, you should understand why the new system is better. Getting to 320 is also much less likely than it was to 400.
>>575565950Then I'll tell you like it is, people are overreacting and finding excuses to bitch about the new system just because it takes hints from some other games that they persuaded themselves are the worst thing ever.>>575566141That feeling existed before already.>I got both at 360, should I spent 40 more just to spark some ligma?>yeah anon that's a steal you should totally do it!!Now that's gone, and instead every pull after a pity reset won't go to waste so you can always keep pulling for that other student or those ligma and when you get bored of it it all goes toward the next banner.
>>575566438Retard.
>>575566469If someome is lucky then why aren't they winning the coin flip?
>>575566167If your luck is consistent then wouldn't you have a better experience under the new system especially because of the rebates?
coom in doomrope in hope
Because of the backlash, potentially more people will have satsuki and makoto than iroha
>>575566438>time-limited ticketwhy don't they just reduce the number of pulls to trigger the pity and guarantee?
>>575566492I believe Mash does as well, so it seems like something they only did very early.
>>575566453>best pity system>spark>spark
>>575566489sHanako as always
Now that the drama is over and we have a better gacha can we talk about the game?
>4 /bag/ threads on /vg/This is why nobody likes you baggots, your aniba ended keep it down
>>575566273damn this nigga's right
>>575566528>Then I'll tell you like it is, people are overreacting and finding excuses to bitch about the new system just because it takes hints from some other games that they persuaded themselves are the worst thing ever.Did I say otherwise?
>>575566545That would mean less ligma.
Anyone got the updated doompost we can throw at hopelets?
My ligmas....
>tfw when so many students wants to get fucked by me.>But there's no implications for the one I want.Momoibros...
>>575566545Rolling feels good and gambling makes gamblers gamble more.
>>575566545More dopamine hits.
>>575566589>>575566589>>575566589
>>575566141This is the crux of it.>get character in 80 pulls>"well I might as well try for the other one, I'd budgeted 200!">miss 50/50>in too deep now, quitting would feel wasteful>whoops now you're on track to spend 280vs>don't get character in 200 pulls>oh well I'll just spark because I'm definitely not committing to another 200 for the other oneThe new system requires self control.
Thread number fixed>>575566617>>575566617>>575566617
>>575566469>but what about if someone's luckyThen they can be just as lucky now and get both featured banner characters using less pulls. Do you not know how probability works?
>>575566042The odds are better, but the new system is made to make people roll more and spend more, that's a fact, because it has more traps and pitfalls
>>575566540HE REMEMBERED
>>575566583+1 thread
>>575566583Invaders keeping flooding us with posts, don't blame us.
>>575566534Dumbass. Someone can be too lucky to never take advantage of the coinflip because it needs you to be unlucky enough to reach 100 rolls without getting the rate-up character.
>>575566583then tell your faggots to stop posting here
>>575566620>>in too deep now, quitting would feel wastefulWrong, the points carry over. You're not wasting anything by quitting.
>>575566545Gambling players are more profitable.
>>575566506Not true. These ticket pulls don't count towards pity, they're just extra chances to pull them naturally.
>>575566545over their dead bodies
>>575566618>>575566625Keep imploding /bag/ lmaoSo much happening and it's so funneh
>>575566438>they are saying they want you to go for 320 fucking pulls EVERY bannerAs opposed to them currently wanting you to go for infinity pulls because sparks are unlimited
>>575566620So the new system gets you both PU with just 40 more rolls vs the old system where you gave up and got only one PU with the spark?
>>575566730proofs?
Too tired to complain about no birthday thread and yet not moving anyways
>>575566806Mutsuki's birthday is in 3 hours.
>>575566626Don't you know how conditional probability works? The outcome wouldn't be the same because the same theoretical person can't get the advantage that can only be triggered after not getting the rate-up in 100 rolls.
I like how everyone is ignoring that newbie players trying to get 4 festival rated up students will be completely fucked under this new system. In the olden days you would just spark the ones you didn't pull feeling satisfied. Now you will be malding at 300+ pulls with two students still not being pulled.
>>575566684Not all banners are equal. You lost when you stopped thinking in multiplies of 200 pulls.
>>575566936and fes students being archived screws them over too
>>575566936Anybody who doesn't maintain 50% won pity pulls is fucked. It will take months to recover from a bad set of pulls.
>>575566992If both students are must haves, you would have budgeted 400, not 200 pulls. You're retarded dude, just give it up.
>>575566936Which reminds me, when losing 50/50 during fes how would the odds of regular/fes spook be distributed? It might actually make getting older fes students easier.
>>575565309>You have to pray that you don't "win" by accidentally pulling a pickup you don't wantThis is such a retarded mindset to be forced to have. Winning a 0.7% pickup student on an unplanned pull used to be just a nice surprise. Now it'll be a despair-inducing loss of the 100+ pity points you were saving for a future banner you wanted.
how fucked are we in global , when will the new gacha system cums in global anyway.
>>5755773724 monthspray you don't accelerate any more
