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>>(JP) – JST
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>News:
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>Events:
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>Content:
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>News:
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>Events:
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>Content:
Total Assault: Goz (Field) – 7/28 2:00 – 8/3 18:59
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2x Normal – 7/27 19:00 – 8/3 18:59
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Bring back the old gacha
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>better chibi
>better gameplay
>better gacha
is it over for us...?
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>2 hours early
Retard
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I wish to partake in Reisa's tunnel in a vulgar manner that doesn't have any consent on her part.
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nobody is playing your vtumor rythmslop
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>>575572853
cute
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with the spark system gone now the standard banner can truly shine
rejoice!
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>>575572178
not the tentacles?
not the fucking whipping?
the obviously comedic ass sword? lmao
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>>575572904
Nah, we might have peaked with Satsuki but I'm pretty confident the devs can still top it in the long run.
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>>575572908
The Renge one was also early, about three hours, but I didn't see you complaining about it
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>>575572890
No.
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I'm genuinely happy everyone finally got to see the light in regards to the new gacha. I can rest now, good night.
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There's no us
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Reisa and her 6.7cm tunnel...
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Blue Archive is better than all other gacha
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>>575572904
>chubby young busty tits vs old withered hag sags
yeah, blue archive lost hard
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I don't know who is who and what is what anymore
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>>575572904
yes
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soon
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They should keep the old gacha system and let people choose between both so the retards get punished.
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We lived long enough to become the villain
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>>575572904
I got like a single pull from the new event
Japanese rhythm games are hell
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>>575573063
Faust is the redman
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>>575573045
Sleeping Reisa is so cute
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>>575573045
>6.7cm tunnel
perfect for gook sizes
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>>575573063
I can tell you what this new system is(it's abysmally dogshit)
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>>575572998
Retard >>574867094
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Hello fellow math knowers. Are we winning against the retards?
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My Insidious In-Law
Nexon will BURN
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>>575572904
I would have play this game if it still have Gura and Mumei
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>>575573181
>don't trust the math it's lying to you
Compelling argument.
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as a new sensei that has to roll for a billion characters still, how bad (or good) is the new change? i feel like not having the spark elephs is going to be rough af
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>>575572904
Give me Biboo in a micro bikini and ill consider
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math sisters we cant stop winning
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We should shove all math nerds in a locker like the good ol' days
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>earthquake

It was just Yuuka and Yoshimi in the gym jumping rope
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Hop on Halo (Remake)
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https://img.2chan.net/b/res/1453376432.htm
Seems like they’ve already gotten over it.
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>>575572904
>3dpd hag streamers: the phone game
I'd rather just play idolmaster
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>>575573181
Yes, based Nexon wants us to give them less money.
>For the full fiscal year 2025, Nexon reported a total revenue of $3.1 billion USD (¥475.1 billion JPY), marking a 6.5% increase year-over-year.
They made so much money last year they figured they'd buy goodwill by giving us the best gacha ever!
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TryinityGODS would never ruin a FES like this
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>>575572853
At least with the current thread speed, she'll get plenty of birthday OP's
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>>575573261
I'm gonna hop into Midori's pants
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>>575573168
Ok, you won this time
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>>575573076
>Chose the new one when I'm going to win the coinflip
>Chose the old one when I don't want to get spooked with my 150 expiring GA tickets
Heh, ez
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>>575573234
If you are good at the game you only need UE40 at most. Building a wide roster to challenge a higher difficulty is more important than speedrun malding a lower difficulty.
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>watch some video
>see kokona
>say sex out loud
YOU DID THIS TO ME TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
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I play Blue Archive to look at kids
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Yuuka won
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>>575573358
sex
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Mika love
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>>575573234
a new sensei should be pretty happy with the free additional pulls as he wants spooks just as much as specific students, and he also gets more than enough pyros from story to pull whatever he wants
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>>575573059
BA will lose until it embraces the chub
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>>575573234
Its bad for you
Its good for veterans who just need the 2 new units cause you get massive pull ticket refunds in the first 400 pulls which will be their upper limit
But once you go past 400 (as a newbie would to pull earlier BlueFES units) theres no more pull tickets so the pull value drops considerably
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Math xisters have no counter argument to this
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>>575573358
>YOU DID THIS TO ME TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
Sex would say this
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/bag/ arithmeticians even out their rectums with nexons fat curve
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I designed the gacha changes. I did it to stop people from talking about Kei, as I have Kei fatigue.
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>>575573234
This new system is better for you since you will get a lot more 3*s per roll.
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>>575573353
>If you are good at the game you only need UE40 at most.
We love nu-gacha cope here
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>>575573234
>i feel like not having the spark elephs is going to be rough af
It's really bad if you care about game mechanics / raising characters / gameplay.
If you don't care about gameplay, you'll be fine. I used to buy the cheap monthly packs to get materials for raising characters, but this is a good chance to stop that and just enjoy the story instead.
There's zero story-related content for upgrading characters past 3 stars.
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>>575573353
>have a wide roster with 0 ligmas to upgrade so they are all useless anyway
Lol
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Earthquake literally saving Nexon's ass
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Pat your Wakamos
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Next Q&A sessions will ve very interesting
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>w-we don't need the eleph anyways!
math sisters on suicide watch
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>>575573098
Reisa and her 100cm shaft...
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so this confirms that they will never ever change the system back?? no matter the backlash??
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>>575573234
If the statsfags are right and it's more net characters / rolls, it'll be an advantage.
The hardest part when new is picking up a range of supports, plenty of which function just fine at 3-4*. You're borrowing your main dps anyway and plenty of runs still get by with UE40/50.

Lost coinflips do little for me.
You have a host of students you'll want from them that are arguably better than any rateups you'll be rolling for.
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https://x.com/ysoya/status/2082093582945779906

Boss tweet
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>>575573251
>throw math away
Only third-worlder do that
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>>575572904
Other baggots are thrashing this game but there's absolutely no way JP beats them in tomorrow's chart...

AH FUCK THE VTUMORSLOP IS GONNA MOG US TOMORROW FUCK FUCK FUCK I HATE SWEDEN.
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>You don't need to pull to spark
>You don't need to spend your GA ticket
>You don't need to go past UE40
What's next?
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Kim posted
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>>575572853
I wanna cum on those glasses
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>>575573559
more like the "account based in" feature on twitter saved nexon's ass by embarassing all the midori posters
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Wait a goddamn second
So the pity counts for all 3* students, or only rate up ones? If I pull a Shiroko on my first tenner will that mean my next 3* will happen in the next 100 rolls, and it will be garanteed to be the rate up one?
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>>575573608
>fuck you we're doing it anyways
great
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>>575573294
You don't get people to spend more money by worsening the gacha system, you do it by creating a better system that incentivizes people to spend money.
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NEW POST

https://x.com/ysoya/status/2082093582945779906
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>>575573608
>>575573643
GROK

SUMMARIZE
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>>575573181
winning a bell curv up the ass!
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>>575573294
They're making it so f2p players will be able to pull more students per year (better player retention) and whales and dolphins have more incentive to spend money in the game (since the eligma packeji are much better value than buying pyro and rolling for dupes). Seems like a sound plan to me, with the only problem for them being that they massively fucked up the PR.
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>>575573608
>"we're sorry"
>no mention of even considering making changes to the system
its over
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>>575573684
Only rate-up. If you roll and get other student that is not in rate-up it won't take your pity away.
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>>575573608
>"We did it for your own good"
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>>575573643
>>575573707
>>575573608
>non response
lol
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>>575573718
it's good and had the best intention but they're sorry for making you worried and have to try to figure out if it's good or bad on your own
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>>575573608
>literally admits that barely focusing on it during the stream was a fuck up
How do you even fuck up that bad?
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what's the expected value of the eleph pakeji once it reaches global anyways?
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>>575573608
tldr
>my bad, but we keep doing it, we know you will eventually love this system
holy fuck kim
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>>575573718
tldr; it's supposed to give you more students because that's what keeps people playing BA. Sorry for the announcement being last minute and not clear enough.
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Mathchuds are the ones who fall easily for tricks like this.
>I definitely need to get the large bucket it has better AVERAGE popcorn per dollar
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Feels good being a mathGAWD and not falling for doomshit
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>>575573667
>Minori is so forgetable that people don't even know how to spell her name
bro just delete Red Winter from the game
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>>575573608
where's the fucking naked dogeza video apology, Kim
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>>575573608
Yeah its over...............
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>>575573608
Why not just implement the 50/50 in the current system?
Why not have the pity reset?
Why add eleph packages and keystones to the pyro store?
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>>575573550
I've been playing F2p for a year and a half and have every fes DPS, Kisaki, IMari, Himari, Nozomi at UE40, Seia, SSeia, TYuuka, Kokona, Rio, SNagisa, SShiroko, Kei, NYFuuka at UE30 and around 2k eligma saved up.
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>>575573639
>you don't need to pull!
>you can't watch on youtube!
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>Nexon kneeled
>now the new gacha system is objectively better and even reddi tis happy
damn, I was so close to being free from Blue Archive...
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Pull up your trophy if you want to talk about the changes.
Here's my opinion, before the recruitment bonus, the marginal changes is just much worse because of all the caveats from the new changes.
Now, there's just enough benefits to prefer the new system, with the downside that you still can no longer properly budget your rolls and there are some traps that may get people to waste their rolls.
I'd be fine if they revert or continue.
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>>575573294
The goyim need their catnip
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>>575573781
Yeah? Literally the only issue with the new system was the lack of communication about the specifics. It's a better system. Or what are you going to say the math is lying? LMAO
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We winned
Suck it
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160 < 200
320 < 400
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Wow, Kim is so sorry he says he isn't going to change literally anything at all about the system everyone hates!
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>>575573802
he didn't realize how stupid and mentally ill this game's playerbase is
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>>575573802
Because it was intentional obviously. Remember they had no live audience lol
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>Next time we fuck you, we’ll explain it more and give you more heads up
Lmao
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>Kim truly let me down in the end
Guess him being the chosen one wasn't meant to be. May a new shepherd rise up.
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>>575573859
I don't even know how to access this screen
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>>575573608
>it was to reduce player stress
By making you gamble twice instead of once? By removing the period of inner peace when you already got one pickup and just need to get to 200 without really caring if you get the other one since it's guaranteed?
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People said Kim was our hero, but he turned out to be just as bad as the others.
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>>575573890
All thanks to us.
Gonna doom until we get 60 rebates.
Thanks us later!
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when a whale talks i listen >>575573859
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>>575573838
Weird flex considering you got all that in the old system...
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Blue Archive is the greatest video game of all time and the best fictional story of the 21st century
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>>575572904
>used goods 3dpd whores vs pure virgin 2d students
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>>575573608
this link is not another Reissa prank, right?
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>>575573872
>stupid chuds the math is better!!
>o-okay they boosted the new system with more gibs so what?! now the math is definitive!!
>p-profit?! who cares about profit! nexon loves me like their own son!
retard
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>>575573639
I'm a new player. I don't think any of that is relevant to me...
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>>575573958
craft a trophy cabinet in the cafe, the bronze one is enough.
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>>575573859
I preferred the new system even before the rebate system was announced.
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Yeah, I think I'll be fine
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>>575573838
>2k eligma
Which is not enough for anything and will be all gone the moment you try upgrading just one DPS to UE60
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>>575573820
Just carry trade the popcorn bro
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>>575573958
You need to craft the trophy stand
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>>575574013
>complete non arguments
lmao not even you are actually capable of arguing that the new system is better. Nothing but deflection.
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>>575573608
>"We're sorry that we didn't do a better job communicating the changes"
"There's nothing wrong with the changes, we just didn't communicate them in a way that all you morons could understand."
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>>575573608
>We're terribly sorry for miscommunication in regards to killing your mother, in the future we intend to improve our communication process, please look forward to it
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>>575573970
The text were misread. We'll get it right next prophecy but hope like that comes once every decade. Get comfortable...
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>>575573643
>Corpo speak

Yeah, no. Stand on stream and kneel, Kim
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I've been playing BA for 2 years and have not bought the monthly even once. 1000 yen for 1600 pyros? that's 13 and 1/3 pulls out of 200 you need for a spark. In ZZZ you get 18.75 pulls for 610 yen and the pulls are way more valuable in that game.
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>do something retarded and anti-player
>apologize for bad communication
>continue doing the thing people hate
What's this business strategy called?
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Just woke up, did the kneel and revert the system yet?
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>>575573307
Maybe if whoever bakes the next bread uses a different image, he can just slap something like picrel onto the image he's using. Kind of what some anon did in the previous livestreams
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>reduce player stress
>oh yeah let's make bootlickers and anti new gacha system to fight each others for days
>also hope bootlickers will do the math for us to explain it to other players
wtf kim?
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>>575574013
math sisters...our response?
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He shouldn't even have apologized but whatever, time to celebrate tomorrow
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>math doesn't care about feelings
That's funny to say, "facts don't care about your feelings" because historically, feelings won every single time the two clashed. Feelings wipe the floor with facts it's not even close.
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>>575574178
There's no need to revert the system. Learn math.
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>>575573859
>Pull up your trophy if you want to talk about the changes.
you want a 5k player game? enjoy eos
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>>575573958
You need to craft the trophy cabinet
>>575573981
I'm not even a whale, I do monthlies and event gift bundle at most.
>>575574040
It was marginal improvement that has too many psychological burden to players. It wasn't good until they lessened the burden, it was okay at best.
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>>575572904
It's a Japanese rhythm game, it unironically takes a year to get a spark
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>>575574040
We have access to the archive. You jeets really are retarded as fuck.
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what really sucks is that /bag/gots argue instead of being cute with each other and posting lewd students
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>>575573608
>hmm we know the new system is trash but we are implementing it anyway, FUCK YOU
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>>575574165
You also get extra bounty/scrimm tickets and scrims are reduced in cost (they're free if you buy both monthlies)
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Could've just...doubled the base rate..you know...
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well, I guess that's it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQUF9M7horo
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>>575573608
doom status?
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>>575574195
it will even out, trust the plan
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>>575573608
I believe in yongha
He knows best
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>>575573965
>開発チームとしては、先生方が募集において最もストレスを感じる点は、生徒をお迎えできる「呼び出しポイント」になるまでピックアップ生徒を一人もお迎えできない場合であると考え、これを緩和できる方法を模索してまいりました。
Literally 100% true. Thank G*d for the new system.
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>>575573965
A lot of lucklets complain about them consistently not getting the rate up with even 400 pulls. The change should make the pulling experience for them better but of course they can't just add the 50/50 at the halfway point to the system as is since people with average pulling luck would use even less pyros when pulling and they obviously can't have that. Thus the proposed system.
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>>575573608
lmao this game is now on the path of a slow EoS.
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>>575573608
>sorry we brushed past in on stream and you had to make your own opinions based on that
>the change was for your own good, trust me
How can I believe this when the stream had no live audience? If they expected people to think it's a good thing or at least don't react, they would have a live audience.
They knew people would dislike it, but if they knew why show it like that? Because they knew it was bad, but didn't except to blow up this hard.
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>>575573707
Literally who
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>>575574239
name one example of this happening that isn't some mob of useful idiots being manipulated by someone smarter than them to accomplish a goal
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>>575574175
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door-in-the-face_technique
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Why did they just not keep the old system exactly the same but just add the 50/50 thing at 100 and guaranteed at 200?
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>>575573358
relatable
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Wolfcut shawty
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>>575573608
>This is Kim Yong-ha, the General Producer of *Blue Archive*.
>
>Regarding the renewal of the student recruitment system this time, we have caused considerable anxiety and confusion among the teachers.
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused.
>
>I would like to apologize for the fact that, despite this renewal having a significant impact on the teachers' gaming experience, we disclosed the information only at the last minute, and furthermore, for casually reposting content related to this matter on a personal SNS account, which led to a loss of trust.
>With the approval of the operations team, I would like to take this opportunity to explain the circumstances surrounding this matter.
>From the development team's perspective, we believed that the aspect of recruitment that causes the most stress for teachers is when no pickup students can be welcomed until the "call points" required to welcome a student are reached, and we have been exploring ways to alleviate this.
>The reason is that we believe enabling as many teachers as possible to encounter the students they desire is the foundation for *Blue Archive* to continue being loved for a long time.
>The method devised by our development team to reduce this stress, even if only a little, was to increase the likelihood of welcoming a pickup student as quickly as possible.
>As announced around 14:00 on July 28, 2026, via the official X account and other channels, the details are the "Call Charge" system and the function to inherit these points.
>Additionally, to ensure you can feel the benefits of the renewal, we have introduced a "Recruitment Count Bonus" in the form of a "Limited-Time 10-Recruitment Ticket," designed to reduce the burden required to essentially guarantee welcoming a pickup student.
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>>575574165
They value from the monthly pack came from the doubled daily tickets it gives you, to get more BDs and notes and whatever.
Not so useful anymore, since materials won't help you that much if you're stuck at 4 or 5 stars from lack of ligma.
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and they said blue archive is in a good hand haha
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>>575574383
Because overcomplicating the gacha is very much intentional
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>>575573859
i burned them for furniture choice
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>>575574195
Kim trust in us, we must not let him down
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>>575574338
This. BA old gacha was entirely dysfunctional. You literally couldn't use it unless you had already 200 pulls saved in the bank. Dogshit system that's fixed now.
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>>575574302
Oy vey trust the new system! Don't you want tickets goy? If you keep rolling you get more tickets.
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nu-monkey, we play and care about the game here. we don't care about your shitty erp. you can go to /trash/ to suck each other there
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>>575574383
it was a necessary sacrifice, to paint your house red you first need to set it on fire
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>>575574239
Factschads utterly DESTROY feelingssissies though
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This corpo non response is only going to make the chinks angrier. Their restless horders will destroy us all....
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>>575573434
You get 40 free pulls now
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>>575573608
>we are sorry for fucking you in the ass, next time we will warn you better before we do it
lmao the absolute state
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>>575573608
>However, regardless of our intentions, we forced teachers to verify the gains and losses of the changes, further increasing anxiety, and above all, we damaged the trust that had been built up until now.
>After the announcement, we received voices of anxiety and confusion from many teachers, and we deeply realized that our preparations and communication process were insufficient.
>
>Moving forward, we will prioritize delivering a stable gaming experience to teachers, and in the development process, we aim to proceed with more cautious deliberation and sufficient guidance.
>We take this matter very seriously and will work to rebuild trust, even if gradually, with a more responsible stance.
>
>We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused to everyone this time.
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>>575574445
That's fine. Brainlets who can't optimise their pulls deserve to be rinsed harder to subsidize my game.
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>never have to give BA a cent again
Guess the change was good?
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>>575574338
>>575574467
same poster btw
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>>575574263
I am the poster of the original image retard. Why would I bother taking another screenshot? But just for you I will do so to make you look like even more of an idiot.
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>>575573608
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Welp, have fun getting your fes fucked by hololive, you deserve this Kim
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>>575573078
I’m the villain now? How? I didn’t do anything
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So how are the japs and chinks feeling about this response
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The devs fistened!
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IF YOU WANT TO MAKE PLAYER GET NEW STUDENT EASILY THEN INCREASE THE SSR RATE YOU DUMB FUCK
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>>575573965
not sure how much stress will be felt in the new system but the old system was definitely stressful as you approached 200 pulls without pulling one of the rateups
pic related is basically what I looked like when I was at 140+ with no rateup pulled
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pitty system was an inside job
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>>575574467
But it's the same now???
You're only guaranteed if you have 200 in the back, anything else is just coin tosses
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>>575574508
Good. Maybe that will remind kikes what happens when they try to pull a Weimar.
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I must have played the wrong game here, but didn't you earn most of the eleph by rolling during a rate-up? Am I missing something here?
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>>575574248
Means the changes won't even matter to you, the new system is straight up better for people like you.
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>>575573608
Imagine if this explanation alongside the blog update came the same day as the initial announcement and none of this drama would've happened
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>>575574582
Most are saying the apology is meaningless since they're still going forward with the changes
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>>575574339
>not getting the rate up with even 400 pulls
It was 5.55% chance
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>>575573859
I don't like coinflips, I'd rather have kept the old system and polished that if they wanted to improve it. I don't think any minor improvement in total gains is worth how bad some unlucky streaks will feel vs the spark system.
I don't really care that much though.
BA's roll system is still better than most gachas and also not the reason I play it, everything I like is either the same or getting added to.
Pandemoniumfes has been my favorite batch of character announcements, which helps.
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>>575573608
>check the """""japanese""""" replies complaining about this
>obvious broken mtl'd monkey sounds
>click the profile
>it's a turdie or a chink (but i repeat myself)
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This change is only good for the retards who pull without 200 and just like to gamble but these same retards don't realize the same shit is gonna happen to them but it also fucks over whales and savers in the process
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>>575574549
Good dog. Don't let it happen again.
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>>575573608
Mostly the only """""people""""" still complaining and seething are seamonkeys and chinks. Someone needs to nuke those shitholes asap
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>>575573820
akctually we can do statistical analysis on the amount of salt grains per kernel to work out the best value per gram
over 1000 large buckets, you are guaranteed 0.5% better returns
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>>575574697
Enjoying the taste of that boot?
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You get more Ligma from the free rolls and the extra 5* from the 50/50. Spending extra rolls to spark a dupe was always for whales and retards.
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>>575574624
Yes, but before you had to spend 200 pulls on average to get both, now it's much less. Most of the time you will never get to 200 pulls spent.
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>>575574697
Post nose kike
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>>575573608
IM GOING TO KILL YOU IF YOU COME HERE BITCH
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>>575574624
No. Because you know get carryover pity and a 50/50 at 100. So while it is still recommended to have 200 for a student you really want, normally you are free to pull whanever you want now.
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just don't have the pity reset between 0-100 and 100-200 is it really that difficult?
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When you make a pulling decision calmly, you won't regret the consequences that follow it.
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>>575574515
>You get 40 free pulls now
What if I wanted to spark for Iroha after getting Ibuki? 80 free pulls won’t cover the potential 120 pulls I’ll have to do
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>>575574036
>>575574059
huh neat
I'm missing a lot of random terrain stuff but also some stuff I swore I'd have gotten plat on
seriously? I have never gotten plat on goz before this one? this can't be right
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>>575574621
bro you will literally need to get a rateup on the first tenner to feel safe with the new system
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>>575574739
Truth nuke. Don't forget the ligma from the rebate too.
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>it's good because it fucks people over, you just dont get numbers like I do!
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>>575573965
You do realize that the old and new system gamble the same rate (0.7%) right? You should just say; the only problem you have is you won't get 2 in 200 as easily than before
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>>575574671
And I was that 5.55%. I could've used the extra 80 rolls and more for pKoyuki.
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doom again?
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>>575574650
No, you're correct. Now you have to just buy more packeji for elephs and ligmas.
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>>575573608
No one believes the amount of free pulls from acumulated pulls was not specified from the beginning by accident.

Everyone knows the plan was to adjust the numbers of pulls depending on how hard the backlash was.

If it wasn't so hard instead of 40 pulls it would be only 10
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>>575574515
Why do you retards assume people never want another character on the banner? Especially new players would want to get as many students as they can but they can easily get fucked because they got lucky at 180
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>the truck is ready to be deployed
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they really post apology last minutes before fes
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>>575574850
You literally will get 2 in 200 more easily in the new system retard.
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>>575574757
BLOODY BENCHOD
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>>575574752
you are BROWN.
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>>575574894
"apology"
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>>575574882
>made up shit
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>>575572904
>better chibi
Bullshit.
BA is /k/core and that will always be superior to /vt/
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>>575574020
>I'm a new player. I don't think any of that is relevant to me...
On your very first banner: Pull your oshi once on the way to 200, then spark her at 200 for more ligma. There, you're already at 5 stars UE30. And you definitely already have enough ligma from archive recruitment to buy shards to put her at UE40.
Well, not anymore under the new system, but...
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>>575574908
>pityniggers are worse than seanigs
wow
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>>575573608
>see post engagement
>gook forgib him
really? that easy? wow
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>>575574890
Even accounting for that scenario the chance of getting 2 students if you only spend 200 of your own rolls no matter what is higher under the new system. It's just a "feels bad" moment but objectively balanced out by all the times you will get them both.
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>>575573859
Here's my kaiten lunatic
Change was absolute dogshit then, and it's okayish now. About the same as it was before.
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>>575574908
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>apology post at 10 at night before patch goes live
the fuck were they waiting for
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>>575574878
How? Explain to me. I roll I get ligma, the same roll I always do. Save 200 roll, get rate-up, stop.
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>>575573608
>As a development team, we believe that the most stressful point for teachers in recruitment is that it is not possible to pick up as many students as possible until it becomes a "Spark" where students can be retrieved, so we have been searching for ways to alleviate this.

so why the devs didn't implement this 50/50 system on the old spark system if the problem was truly this, obviously THAT would be good for the players instead of creating a entire new pull system designed for impulsive spending
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>>575574671
I went 910 rolls without a single rate up last year.
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>>575574624
It's better for the intended target based on Kim's corpospeak. The type who just wants as many students as possible. The lower barrier of entry (better chance at 100) makes the impulsive manwhore more comfortable in rolling even if he hasn't saved the full 200 yet. The carryover pity boosts that comfort because the impulsive manwhore can cope with the idea that at least his pulls are not wasted and could be used for the cute student in the next banner. The system in concept does decrease the stress of such people in terms of rolling.
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>>575574757
As an Amerimutt, some of you chinks are alright. Please reopen that ASMR site for westerns, it was a damn Slav that caused it anyways
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>>575574898
Specifically 141-145 pulls (new) vs 191 (old)
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>>575575016
because it's just a typical corporate slop apology for the sheep
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>>575572904
>>better chibi
this games chibis are second only to trickcals which is their whole gimmick pipe the fuck down
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>>575574894
This isn't an apology, this is "we are sorry you are mad"
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>only a few minutes until we see the new system live
>inb4 extended maintenance
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>it's actually over for realz this time
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coom in Nozoom.
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Literally all they had to do was to give you 100 elephs of the rateup student at 200/400 from the second point system
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>Israelite IP
Uh oh totally a coincidence
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>>575574857
It's over.
Why is it that the one time i allow myself to have strong opinions on a game i'm too much of a contrarian for fucking 4chan?
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getting the girl at 190 is going to be so frustrating even though it saves you 1200 pyro lmao
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>>575575059
"...and brown"
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>>575575028
Probably because it is that case. It's probably someone higher up on the Nexon corpo chain that pushed for this, and Kim has no say in it.
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Why does every shill for the new system just say
>It's better if you get lucky though
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>>575573608
Just reset my account. See you all in some other game, I guess. It's been fun.
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>>575574757
based
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>>575575016
Because they only want the new system to be 10% better instead of 25% better. They still need to make money, after all.
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I forgive him.
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>>575575082
literally all they had to do was NOTHING, THE SYSTEM WAS FINE
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>>575575082
You get 40 extra rolls per 200 under the old system. Why are you not accounting for all the ligma from dupes in those rolls?
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>>575575113
Because they don't even play the game and are just here to ragebait
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>>575575028
>come up with somethnig
you mean asking chatgpt to write corpo speak for him?
fuck him
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>>575575005
their hands were too far up a mathematicians rectum to type a proper apology
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>>575575005
To gauge response before doing it obviously. People are too wrapped up in the idea that Kim is their friend when he's just another corpie.
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Post a cutie pie as cute as a cute button.
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vile
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>>575575113
Are you implying the old system doesn't need luck?
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>>575575135
@arona...
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>>575575113
most of them are hoyofags too, their defending cope system makes it obvious
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And here's complete tea party
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>>575574383
the point was to encourage impulse rolls, that's where gacha makes all of its money bro
impulse buys dominate every retail space
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>>575573639
I uninstalled like a year ago and just go on danbooru to enjoy the game nowadays
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>>575575113
It's also better if you don't get lucky.
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Use your fucking brain. If the new system were actually not worse, then:
1) Why did they rush through it as fast as possible in the stream when they had the VAs etc announce it? Why did they take the unusual step of hiding behind an online-only half-anni instead of the expected in-person one?
2) Why does the system bring with it new ¥3000 eleph packs whose existence and contents imply they are there to replace lost rate-ups?
3) Why did they not lead with these compensations when "look free tickets" is an extremely easy way to make it seem good? Is it not safe to assume that delaying until now to reveal them implies that the numbers were decided based on the reception?
4) Why have they been completely radio-silent on the controversy and not tried to explain why it wasn't a bad change, if it is supposedly so great?
5) Given that point 3 implies the compensation reward rates were decided based on placating those angry about the change, what range of possible rates were they considering, and what does this imply about their internal view of how much benefit or harm would come from the new system?
6) Why change it from something so simple, which has worked for years, to something so complicated, and so difficult for a real player facing a real banner to properly evaluate or plan for, when they knew it would be controversial?

The fact is, if the new system were actually straight up better they would've revealed it at the full anni to a live crowd and shouted from the rooftops about how generous they are for marketing. Instead they tried to obfuscate everything as much as possible. If you defend the change, you're either shitposting, an actual nexon shit, or severely retarded.
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>>575575113
Because they're the ones who always get lucky and cannot comprehend being unlucky for a banner. The system is literally just the rich getting richer and the poor becoming even more poor
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>>575575113
Assuming the exact same luck in both systems, the new system is better. In fact "it's better if you get lucky" is literally YOUR entire argument
>I got both in 200 so the old system is better
Yeah you got lucky dumb fucking asshole.
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>>575575113
Notice how none of the new gacha shills have posted their IDs or highest bond levels.
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If the new system was not actually better, then why does the math say it's better?
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>>575575154
Is 40 extra rolls more than 500 ligma or 1000 ligma for an owned student?
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>>575575005
probably working out the math
>kim the new gacha system will yield us 50% more revenue than the old system
>b-but the players are unhappy what can we do?!
>lets give out some gibs in the new system, the margin will go down to 40% but at least the retards will be fooled
>w-wait can we give them less? 45% more profit margin is important!
>sure boss let me run some numbers, we win no matter what with the new system
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>>575575243
Exactly. The optics are absolutely terrible
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>>575575218
>>575575157
Fucking seething. Literally everyone who posted their raid trophies says the new system is better.
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>>575573859
I think it'd be better even without the rebate system.
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>>575575154
Why don't you ligma balls
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How is a 50/50 supposed to be less stressful? That a single person can read this and believe it is mind-boggling .
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>>575575268
yeah and in the old system I don't get punished for it
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Anyine who defend the new system is either a shill or a hoyodrone, and i honestly dont know which one is worse
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Kim is my friend.
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2x0 = 0
spark > pity
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>>575575243
MUH MAFFFFS niggers got high off their own LLM-powered farts and are too retarded to see the bigger picture
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>>575573608
Yeah, I'm out. Gonna be funny as fuck when Blue Archive isn't first next comiket, but you did this to yourself.
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>>575574808
Because with those extra free 40 pulls that you can only use on that banner, your chances of getting both inside 200 rolls is 76% as oposed to the previous chances of getting both in 200 rolls which was 75%

Before the extra pulls new system was ulterior shit, after the extra pulls confirmed to be given on the 70th, 130, 150 and 170 rolls your chances are slightly better.

New system is still a bitch for whale since you don't get more free pulls after the 370 milestone
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You guys told me they will revert the change
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>>575575368
This is objectively wrong. You get punished with bad luck by going all the way to 400 rolls in the old gacha system. You fucking dumb Indian faggot.
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>>575575304
no, if this was the case the apology would be posted right after they posted about the 40 free rolls, not now
if they immediately done both things no one would be mad
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>>575573608
Wow thank you Nexon I am totally convinced now, you truly are looking out for me and have my best interests at heart, I wll now buy 5 $80 pakeji as thanks.
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>>575573608
>>575574403
>>The method devised by our development team to reduce this stress,
So to reduce the stress they... removed the spark that is the thing people relied on when they had the bad luck he's talking about?
If it was just to help players in the way he's saying, there was no reason to remove it
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>>575574808
In that scenario, you're going for 400 in the old system
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Nexon'[s math should care about my feelings because If I fall below their stupid average deity and lose the coinflip multiple times in a row I'll just quit the game altogether. I'm not going through that shit again, there's nothing more rage inducing. The change already feels like the genshitification of BA and I guarantee that swedish kike brings up Genshin Impact every chance he gets at meetings because that will be the limit off his knowledge of gachas games.
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whew
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>>575575435
Get fucked, next is exclusive weapons and gacha gear!
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>>575575426
>amerifat making it about niggers
Mutt's law and all that
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>>575575303
Considering it's free and you have to spend more of your own for a dupe. How many rolls are you willing to go for a dupe? Will you continue at 100/200? 150/200? 190/200? How often does that happen? And 1000 is only if you already had the student BEFORE the banner period.
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>>575575268
Yeah that is better. The worst case scenario is the same but I also don't get punished if I happen to get lucky. That's why the old system is better you fucking moron
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This is what mathfags sound like trying to defend the new system.
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>>575575435
lil bro that was way too delusional of them in the first place do you honestly think hey would change shit for a feature that is coming out like in a day?
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>>575575126
Just sell it anon
Call it rebate
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>>575575448
they probably had just 10x roll planned but the severity of the backlash required them to recalculate figures for more gibs
the fact that they are willing to give 40x rolls shows how rigged the new system will be because you know for sure that their margins are still way better than the original system
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>>575575502
aoba's at UE60, so this is the remaining stock
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>>575575519
>ip location: Jakarta - Indonesia doesn't know what an analogy is
stop posting
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>they'll revert it
>they'll revert it
>they'll definitely revert it
Kim tweets
>nah we're keeping it lmaoooooooo

IrohaNIGGER on suicide watch
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>>575573608
>AI generated corpo speak non-apology that just blames the players for not understanding their "generosity"
Yeah piss off.
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you support Israel if you support new gacha system btw
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say goodbye to my UE40 hopes for my future pulls then, I'll have to settle for botched 3* because now I can't get enough ligma anymore
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>>575575527
No the worst case scenario is better in the new system. You lying Indian
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>>575575593
just buy the pakeji
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we have to wait til japs roll until we know if the free tickets count toward pity?
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>>575575154
>You get 40 extra rolls per 200 under the old system.
That's it? That is far worse than just giving us ligma
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>>575575527
The new system requires less rolls no matter what percentile of luck you end up in.
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https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/lists/?id=projectmx&exception_mode=recommend
Well, the target audience seems to have forgiven Kim for now.
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>>575575580
forgot my pic
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EA then: "The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes."

EA now: "The intent is to reduce player stress by adding a 50/50 coin toss and a pity you lose on rate-up."
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You will still play BA anyway
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>>575575113
if you just woke up they reduced pity to 90/160 which they conveniently forgot to mention, it is objectively better now.
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STUPID HUMANS
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>>575575609
if free tickets dont count towards pity then this game is as good as dead
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>>575575592
because both make brown people cry on the internet?
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>>575575583
Yeah your analogy uses dirty gorilla niggers because that's all you think about all day you stupid golem.
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>>575575647
>forgive him that easy
just like sensei...
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>>575575113
Because they are gambling addicts or literal nexon shills.
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All things considered these past few days were pretty fun and we walked away with a superior system. Too bad the pandeflops got sacrificed but who cares about them lmao.
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>>575575243
Oh, the new system WAS worse and they tried to see if they could go away with it.
But since they couldn't they made it even now.

But is still more complicated now so they can bait players into rolling more but adding more possible endpoints
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JPfags are saying it isn't about whether the new system is "better" or not, but the way it was handled was kinda shitty considering BA's entire thing is about keeping community trust high and not trying to look like other greedy companies

https://x.com/i/status/2081983977951551493

Obviously people are going to be upset when you create a massive change within 3 days, allow no feedback, ignore feedback, you don't ever explain why this is somehow better but rather you just steamroll it through, and you first mention it very briefly during a prerecorded segment just to make sure fans couldn't "overreact" in person. Kinda makes it obvious you know it's shitty and you're just trying to get it over with before anyone notices
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>>575575113
Because most of them lived under shittier systems. If you talk to other gacha players, they actively hate the 50/50 system in their own games and they only tolerate it because they have relief systems in place but even then they always shit on it. All in all the pityshills are stockholmed rape victims of the Mihomo gacha system
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>entire old system argument is luck before 200
>for new system it was luck at 50/50 then guarantee at 200 (160)
So both system argue in luck, yet the old one always assume best case, while the new one always worse case. But when compare both worse case the new one will save you more pyroxene at the cost of no easy double. New one assure safe, old one assume luck/benefit. The new one will always trump in saving pyroxene.
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>>575575126
bye
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>>575575609
Yes but if they don't this shit is going to become explosive
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>>575575551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUaaGRLEbm0
OG VA btw
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>>575575243
>1)
They explicitly went through every detail of the new system in the stream. What more did you even want? Did you watch the stream?
>2)
To appease whales who used to buy multiple extra sparks every single banner, and who would indeed be worse off under the new system. It also incentivizes dolphins to spend more money, since the new eleph packs are much better value than the options they previously had.
>3)
Probably. The system was already better even with 0 rebates, but this way they're hoping to get retards to stop chimping out.
>4)
They just responded.
>5)
The new system was already better for everyone other than whales and very new players who have to pull 4 students in multiple banners.
>6)
They genuinely thought it would be a good change (and it is).
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>>575575486
How is that any different from going to 200 without a single PU multiple times in a row under the current system?
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>>575575435
No I always thought they'd just tweak it to be more generous and I was right.
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We heard you are angry so we implemented a weapon system (you can get them from this other gacha with a separate currency but you get free 5 rolls a month yay).
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>>575573608
Not spending another dollar on this game
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>>575575417
How nuclear would it be for a BA artist to pull their spot from comiket right now as a protest?
And an organized group?
About as likely as an actual nuke going off in Japan right now i take.
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>>575573608
Alright, Kim, can't wait for project RX to release so I could spam its vg general with AI blacked shit and shitpost about yuri daily no matter what revenue it manages to make because that's all your fanbase deserves, getting cucked by shitty gacha and no good content
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>>575575738
is this image real
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>>575574672
>>575574993
Basically my train of thoughts as well.
>>575575328
Nah, there's just too many traps for marginal increase.
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>>575575486
What's your current average to get a pick up.
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>>575575741
Fuck you
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>>575573608
>https://x.com/ysoya/status/2082093582945779906

Yep this game is dead. Anyone still playing this now is actually just a loser.
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bangladeshy physcisist does the math check out??
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>>575574671
Schizophrenia is supposed to affect only 0.3-0.7% of the world's population. Yet look at this website.
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>battle pass
>UE increase to bait whales
>new shitty stat increase mechanic to bait whales
>making the gacha system worse
>selling eleph pakeji because now the gacha system is worse
Yeah we are absolutely in the "squeeze the playerbase dry" phase, because Blue Archive as a game isn't growing anymore and has peaked.
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Kneel? Apologize?
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>>575573234
Good for newfags, bad for oldfags
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>>575575767
not a single poster saying stuff like this ever posts proof they ever played the game when prompted
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So how do I get crafting keystone fragments now?
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>>575575713
>It's YOUR fault I'm a retard who didn't understand the system
Not looking good for feelingsfags
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>>575575707
Yeah. I don't get what they are trying to argue about anymore, thing is dropping tomorrow and never getting removed again.
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>no more headpats ever
so this is how it ends.. with a final middle finger
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>>575575820
How is the battle pass any different than another paid package other than some meme banner and furniture you won't be using anyway?
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>>575575607
those new ligma pakeji are shit, pyro and energy pakeji are worth but the prizes for the ligma doesn't convince me
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>>575575243
Why are you reposting this, you were already BTFO in previous thread?
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>>575575713
It would be better if the pity counter didn't reset or carried over
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>>575575654
You don't need that much aoba in your life
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>>575575848
buy them from the shop, goy
with your own pyros ofc
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>>575575713
Honestly, is players fault for depositing their trust in companies of any kind
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intern-kun doing overtime >>575575741
this wouldn't happen if revenue wasn't so low, another reason why the spark system must go
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>like half of the BA story is about being a good adult and fighting against shitty bad adults
>"hmm yes I will now spend my entire day defending the corporation that would be a villain to beat up in BA"
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isakusan foreseen this, he predict the bullet trajectory
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>>575575113
It's actually great if your luck is dogshit, 160 for one rateup, 320 for both
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>>575575696
Funny how the average monkey has no qualms spreading his cheeks to kikes if it means being a contrarian. You have no brain, no soul and no ideals because you were raised as cattle.
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>>575575595
Are you retarded? If I want both banner students, the worst case scenario is that I spend 400 pulls to get both no matter the system. If I l lose my 50/50 and then get lucky before I reach 200, you can spend up to 390 just to get the second character whereas before I could just reach 200 and spark the old character. The new system is only better if you win your 50/50s and/or never get lucky between 101-199. How do you retards not understand this? It's just straight up worse because sooner or later you will get lucky between 101-199 and you will lose your 50/50 and it can happen multiples times in a row
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>>575575765
But student already have a weapon? Can you tell me what is these weapon you speak off sir?
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>>575573608
DOOMGAWDS STATUS????
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>>575573639
We know exactly what's next
>You don't need to play
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>>575575668
nah but i'll look at the porn
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>>575573608
Cool, apology accepted
Can the raiders leave now?
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You killed Asuna, Kim.
That should be punishable BY DEATH
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>>575575967
It's 320 now you lying Indian.
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>remembered goz is up
>don't even feel like autoing it
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>>575575713
>Kinda makes it obvious you know it's shitty and you're just trying to get it over with before anyone notices
Average amount of pulls for two banner characters going from 191 to 141 is bad and shitty because...?
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>>575575848
>Pity doesn't carry over
>Your pull count if you have any turns into crafting mats when the banner expires
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Seia chads please dump your entire folders. Its truly over this time.
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>>575575954
^example of brown person crying on the internet
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>>575575967
The new system caps out at spending 320 pulls. Do you even know what you're arguing any more?
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Are we getting the new system on Global early or wait until the same time JP got it?
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>>575576017
Wait is this the one that we have to do every day?
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gachapon predicted all of this
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>>575575741
>The system was already better even with 0 rebates, but this way they're hoping to get retards to stop chimping out.
Not even close, with there rebates is now mostly the same.
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>>575575005
Because he still have to get all the approval and vetting to post the statement.
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>>575575154
Because I won't spent my pyros on a full spark? I'll just stop pulling when I get what I want out of the banner, I'm not wasting 4800 pyros on just some ligma
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I am looking forward to seeing the same slurpers defend the weapon gacha that will be introduced a year later, and all of the other frog boilding measures to come that attempt to squeeze more and more money from a stone.
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>>575575671
So it's only 160 pulls to get the student you want?
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seia actually coom in doom right now, for real, deadass
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Fuck you
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>>575575025
I went 963 just this year. Your point? When you do actually get a rate up, it means a huge discount on the second one. That's not really something that can be measured.
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>>575575845
Shut up retard
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>>575575879
A full spark for dupes under the old system saves you around 2500 eligma, and costs 36k yen with the 10k pakeji. The eleph pakeji saves you 650 eligma. Buying 4 of those already puts you ahead and costs 12k yen.
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>>575575848
Don't tell me you roll for fun and leave it at that to get fragment, why?
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>>575575593
Yeah, bro, I've getting UE40 for both students on every single banner in 200 rolls and now I can't. The Jews fucking robbed me.
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Kek, it’s the same here.
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>>575576084
>ok this change isn't actually bad but next time it'll totally be bad trust me
lmao fuck off back to your dead gacha general.
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>>575573608
>japs and gooks forgib him
>chinks and seamonkeys still seething
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>>575575848
>>575575916
>buy them from the shop, goy
>with your own pyros
The new system saves you so much pyros, you can take all those pyros you would have spent on the gacha and buy keystones directly instead. Thanks for this new stress free experience!
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Just wait until the shareholders demand the fundamental “icky” nature of the game be changed to appeal to wider audiences to maximize shareholder value
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>>575576084
Raped and gaped
You lost.
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>>575576084
>year later
try 6 months
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>>575576079
Then the new system benefits you in every way.
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>>575576009
>satsuki
maybe sags don't sell
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>>575576071
It isn't my fault that you were born with a skin too brown to be able to do high-school math.
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>>575576159
>dead gacha general
Uh get your eyes checked bro, I am already in /bag/.
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>>575576143
stop using AI to generate your fake ass purchase
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>>575576087
Yes. And the average to get 2 will be 141 instead of 191.
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>>575576087
Yes. 160 for the student you want. 320 in the worst case for two students
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40 freeeeee pulls to help me rebuild pity to get the other student!
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>>575575783
That's just your personal opinion. The new system fits my playstyle better.
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>>575575970
It's a hat that gives stats
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>>575576143
what could possibly be so bad that you need to censor it
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>>575576084
>a year later
Bro 6th anni is 6 months. Lets be serious.
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>director right now
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>>575576156
kek>>575575967
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>>575575873
because any other paid package i just click it and buy it
battlepass is a whole new system with little psychological tricks to keep you playing and what not, its way more exploitative at its core and can be easily changed to include even more exploitative contents (e.g. weapon once they add the weapon banner)
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>>575576248
We already have hat as equipment sar
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>>575576084
And the worse thing is they do it for free.
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>>575575435
I said they're not gonna do it yesterday and I got 10 replies saying gacha devs listen to backlash lol and that this shit happens lol
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Ultimately the tickets are enough to make me shrug my shoulders and deal with the change. Is it mathematically better? Yes.
Is knowing that I'm saving pyros so I can roll more on a system that slaps me in the face 50% of the time going to help my enjoyment of BA? Not really.
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>>575576087
no, its still 200, but you get free 10 rolls along the way.

At roll 70 10 pulls, then at 130, 150 and 170, and later at 270, 330, 350 and 370.

So effectively you only need 90 rolls for the coinflip and 160 for the guaranteed
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>>575573639
>>575575980
Finally, we're stress free!
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>Naruto and frog reaction images
you shitposters don't even play the game
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>>575576163
>I am fine with being raped
>a-at least it's not yuri!
Yeah I don't even feel bad for these subhumans, they will keep paypigging until they die.
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>>575576289
You just have to do the dailies that you should be doing anyway. There are no psychological tricks.
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>>575576156
Having to deal with retards is a universal thing I guess
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>>575576241
fits your bumhole just right doesn't it?
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>the other banner student/extra dupe cost 24k pyros/200 pulls at the worst case
>in the new system you save 40 pulls per 200 pulls
>in the old system saved 200 pulls because I sparked them instead of rolling to another guarantee
Seems like the old system is better for saving mathchuds.
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>>575576290
It's a new hat
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>>575575668
Last year's events were hit-or-miss and main story was a complete miss for me
I'm not sure how much more i'm willing to take
I wish i had saved the horrendous convo from the twins at that moment
I'm not going back to grab that
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>>575576269
>he get away with it and beloved by all
Yeah...
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IT'S UP
ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL
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>>575575797
>muh average
I literally don't care under the current system it feels better and doesn't make me seethe as much as losing coinflip rolls and I can only recall ever needing to go over 200 rolls to nab two students twice.
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>>575576337
>talking shit about naruto
They are a protected class.
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Holy shit slow down niggers
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>>575576317
We don't know if free pulls count towards pity yet. They don't in other games with the same system and the announcement doesn't say one way or the other. We'll see once JP updates.
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The writing was on the wall with the monetisation changes last year. I'm curious to see what changes next year will bring.
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>>575576053
Are you? you still have to spend 200, you just get 40 pulls in return
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>>575576313
Gacha devs do listen to backlash. They do also bury their head in the sand too at times though. A 50/50 if you will.
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>>575576409
>I can only recall ever needing to go over 200 rolls to nab two students twice
fuck you
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>>575576087
it's 200, but you only spend pyros for 160
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>>575576143
Anon, what's the one you hid...?
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>>575576385
Why are you comparing hitting a 0.7% chance in the old system to not hitting a 0.7% chance in the new system?
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>>575576156
post the thread if you dare
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Post this to scare away the nexon shills.
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>>575576409
>I can only recall ever needing to go over 200 rolls to nab two students twice
If you think you're daddy's special princess who has been blessed to never ever lose a 75% then you can look forward to never pulling a student over 100 pulls under the new system.
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>>575576337
and so what? dumbs and itiots talk about this blue archive tht and spam /v/ with idiot saying better than genshin because spam with pedo game so now you cry that lower qualit y of thread lol
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>>575576441
The writing was on the wall for them making the gacha 25% cheaper...?
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>>575576438
If they don't count then the system is just objectively worse
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>>575576435
It will accelerate until morale improves.
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>>575576505
It got posted earlier >>575573286
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tl, dr
>try to pull a fast one
>get caught
>is actually a missunderstanding, I hope this doesn't hurt the relation between us
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>>575576486
Notice how the people seething about the change need to be dishonest to even pretend to have a point where as the people defending it only need to be fair and report the facts exactly how they are?
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get ready for an absurd amount of luck tomorrow because we know Nexon will rig the rates likethe jews they are
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One other GOOD thing about the new system is that if you're doing 10-pulls and the pick-up character comes in at, say, 104th recruitment, the following 6 pulls will go towards the next banner, instead of being turned into keystone fragments.
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>>575576539
they’re calling it the most ESL post of all time
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>>575576131
The point is that this should be much less likely to happen under the new system.
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For the JP pigs. You better post your 50/50s when the update drops.
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>>575576447
You spend the pulls to hit the limit retard-kun. The refund isn't after the banner.
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>>575576438
if they don't count they're gonna get fucking blasted
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>>575576539
>>575576509
leave
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Do mathlets not realize that they were equally getting fucked by two coin flips in the old system?
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>>575575113
what? the people complaining about it are the ones assuming getting lucky, because they're always bringing up a situation where you get the character early.
people defending the new system are talking about the average, which isn't getting lucky, it's the default.
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The new system made these threads worse which is why it's bad.
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Aiiieeee delay the update
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First case of (pic related) that goes viral online will dispel all of Kim’s arguments of “reducing player stress”
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>>575576613
Uh oh korean micropenis detected!
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now that the dust has settled, all of you trannies must go back to your own dead general
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>>575576409
>I'm very lucky in the old system, in the new system, my luck will go away
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>>575576583
but i like keystone fragments though
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>>575576505
If you've been on /bag/ long enough, you'll always know where the 2ch BA thread is.
Hint: it's not the Cyge warrior thread.
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average dick size evens out
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>trusting your gacha waifus to someone who married a 3dpd
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>>575576456
You need to send 200 complaints before they listen. But sometimes on the 190th complaint, the system resets and you have to start over from 0 again.
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>>575576583
Though this means you'll have a trickier time getting the free spooks since those reset every banner change.
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>we're sorry but not really
It'd have been better if he had not said anything.
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Nexon won
Blue Archive won
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>>575576352
>yes goy just do dailies for 60 days so you can redeem the things you paid for
retard
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meg
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>>575576438
>We don't know if free pulls count towards pity yet.
Yes we know, didn't you read the notice?

>Additionally, to ensure you can feel the benefits of the renewal, we have introduced a "Recruitment Count Bonus" in the form of
a "Limited-Time 10-Recruitment Ticket," designed to reduce the burden required to essentially guarantee welcoming a pickup student.
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>>575576438
They do. You get a 10-roll ticket with an expiration date, it's not different from GA tickets. And if it's not a separate item, it shouldn't behave differently. If it was a different item, they would use a different name.
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>>575576706
There's no need to apologize when they're improving your life.
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>>575576548
If they improved the gacha, why did they have to make it so convoluted and limited in scope?
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>>575576343
>stop paying for the game you like saar it doesn't even have any yuri or gay males like my game saar
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> Globalkeks still chimping out about the new system despite it now being blatantly better than the old system
Please dont tell me this is how we're gonna miss out on this coming to global
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So it's true that gacha games go to shit around their 5th anniversary.
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>>575576571
Don't forget that even with the "free" pulls the new system is still worse and will make them more money, this was all calucated by their (((analysts))).
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>>575576583
How are you crafting gifts now? The new rewards give fuck all
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>>575575850
Technically, yes. It's you who want to change it and you should be explaining why and what it does. The player is not required to like it just because.
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>>575576663
>generals
It's a who's who of who's game's dying.
And the cat whose game is dead.
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>>575576767
>it's actually a GOOD thing that this game's gacha is become more like a Hoyo game!
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>>575576602
Bad luck not as bad , but the median is worse. Was before the extra tickets I should say.
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>>575576619
The old system never made me go past 200. I always got one or both rate-ups before that and still enjoyed my bonus copy. Skill issue.
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>>575576602
I'm planning on getting both Makoto and Satsuki within 40 pulls, but I'll post my 50/50 here otherwise.
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>>575576767
lmao if anything we're probably going to get it by the fox banner.
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oh no no no, the japs and gooks are happy now
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>>575576813
>who's game
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can japs roll yet
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you know it's bad when they have to beg you to stay on the maintenance announcement
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>>575575243
TRVTH NVKE
Jpfags are coping with this massive change because it's about to enter their asses and rape them for months without a break before devs can figure out the "optimal" solution for gacha so that poor nippon salary men won't die from high cortisol
Wish they did it next anni with the new school instead, mood for Pandemonium FES is so disastrous I highly doubt bag will bother to post more than 200 posts per thread about it, fuck you Kim, you shat on the cake and burned the table, fans will never forget about this.
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Don't care still voting Iroha
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Blue Archive has always been a jewish scam desu, without the monthly pakeji you don't even have enough mats to build any fucking students.
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>>575576786
>is still worse
Yes, but only from roll 400 onwards, that's whale's problem, not mine
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>>575576729
It took me like 20 days and why would you paypig ina game you aren't regularly playing?
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Japan is happy so we lost
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>>575576790
Same way as I always did.
Can't say I was ever farming them via spark expiration.
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>>575576535
Even if I had worse luck on the current system I wouldn't care. I just really fucking hate coinflip roles because I already have experienced bad luck on that before. Bad or good luck isn't what makes me like the current system.
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>it's bad but not really because I can put up with it!
arithmeticians stretch their anus with an abacus every morning, that why they are so smart
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I don't get it, why am I supposed to hate the new system?
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>>575575850
Nexon not properly explaining the system leading to people being unsure and anxious is very much legitimate criticism but yes the people seething about the new change despite it objectively being better for them are retards. Both things are true.
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>>575576901
very funny
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>>575576901
KWAB
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>>575576729
Why are you paying for a game you're not playing?
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>Goyim Archive
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>>575576767
brother, if this comes to global EU laws are gonna rape their gook asses
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>>575576602
I have 60k gems, I'll post my result here
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>>575576901
kek
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>>575576901
>crops out the UI to hide your third world language
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this shit is so depressing, can't tell who is a friend or foe in /bag/ anymore
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>>575573608
So it was all a coincidence that they had no live audience+ligma pakeji+gacha changes all on the same stream?
I assume the ligma pakeji is to reduce the stress too
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Gotta love how our threads are suddenly filled with spam using the same typing style and buzzwords that were never used here since a certain group of bugmen had a melty over the mahjong collab.
And it's definitely just a coincidence that all the images in their posts are the exact same ones used by bananapickers and bugmen from Twitter.
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What would you do if japan like the new system?
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>>575576841
>I always got one
If you are satisfied with only getting one you don't have to go past 200 in the new system either.
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>trusting jewish science
let the goyim play with their goyim toys
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They can only get away with this because BA's main audience is vegan japs who will tolerate anything btw, and because koreans are slaves to their country's big corporations. If this game had any sort of chink playerbase there would already be assassination attempts.
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Why are the Chinese posting turtles in response to Japanese or Korean players being okay with the apology?
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>>575576976
you shouldn't, that's why everyone's loves it
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>>575576908
>Jpfags are coping with this massive change because it's about to enter their asses and rape them for months
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emocosine jerking off over chiaki billboard
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>>575577090
In around 20 hours?
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>>575577005
The same reason that after the gacha changes they suddenly plan to start spending 100 rolls to lose a coinflip and then bitch about GA tickets expiring.
Shitposters putting in maximum effort trying to invent scenarios to get fucked in the ass, they're just THAT desperate for it.
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>>575576976
>why should I not be a goy?
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>>575576972
Kek
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>>575576841
>and still enjoyed my bonus copy
so you admit you were groomed to hit 200 as a norm while in the new system you have better chances of getting both earlier
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>>575577045
Damn, really. That's very concerning. Please explain the mechanism through which that would be achieved.
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>>575577069
better, saar?
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>>575577124
When are you fixing the chart to include 0.0204% per roll for the second char as spook while rolling on the first?
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>brown energy detected
we need thread police
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>>575577124
keep posting it homoshill
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>>575577176
Yeah but what if I don't get both early in the new system
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>>575577116
i think that essentially means "cuck" in chinese proverbs
similar to green hats
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>>575577087
lmao yeah notice how the doomposting is ramping up after Kim's apology and people are starting to accept the change now the narrative that "actually BA sucks guys you should play x gacha instead" is failing. Same shit happens every single time.
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>>575577087
Yeah man the tourists are so much worse then your faggot ass spamming Seia pics and posting absolutely nothing of substance for years.
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Why didn't Nexon draw probability graphs and show them on the livestream
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>>575573608
It's actually fucking over, holy shit.
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>>575576062
Yes. Chop chop.
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>>575576663
Your game will be dead in 6 months LMAO
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>>575577116
green turtle = smart people
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>>575577124
>hey guys I posted AI slop again!
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Do you think hitler do statistic when he invade soviet union?
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>>575577087
tell em about the math
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>>575576969
I don't care about the process of rolling at all, only what is required to get the students. If I can use a bot to follow instructions and roll on behalf of me and present me with the final result of everything all at once I would do it.
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>>575577224
Then you spend all the extra rolls you saved from the times you did get them early.
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>>575577268
He did, but italians fucked him over with their greek campaign.
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>>575577263
Man I love Ui!
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>>575577212
That wouldn't reset pity, so it would actually help the new system more than the old.
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>>575577268
No he was doing lines of coke that had him blasted out of his mind
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>>575577243
Two more weeks xis
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>>575577350
beast mode
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>>575577224
It would be the equivalent event of you not getting a single one in the previous system
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>>575576786
Yea no shit. A company using predatory methods to begin with, and isnt earning enough, doesnt change it to make LESS money…
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Why apologize when the retarded jeets in /bag/ do free damage control for your company?
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>>575577317
Why didn't he save 400 if he plan to get both, instead of 200 and hope to get 2?
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>>575577268
>Hitler
>statistics
Hitler used his ancestral blood memory.
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>>575575243
You know multiple statisticians and/or mathematicians were involved in the creation of this new super convoluted system. They can now claim that the system is better than the old one in a narrow range of pulling behaviours and significantly worse in the majority of cases.
Given that there were multiple ways to improve the gacha in a less convoluted way means that their intention was never to make things better.
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The real question is: will we get this update early like the 100 eligma change?
The next patch is a pretty big one, they could totally do it.
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https://x.com/dishwasher1910/status/2082068856793919531
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>>575575757
let's your pulls because the odds of losing 2 banners in a row is only slightly over 6%
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>>575577324
>so it would actually help the new system more than the old
No, it wouldn't. I explained that, but repetition always helps.
Under the old rules, you can save spark and only use it to complete the set if you hit the 0.0204 between 210-390.
Under the new rules, you automatically claim pity at 200, and if you hit the 0.0204 between 210-390 after you've switched banners, it's purely a dupe instead of the second part of the set.
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shitstorm of epic proportions
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>>575577443
Sadly it was 25% Jewish...
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>>575577415
Read this again bro, this wasn't an apology.
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i hope they don't introduce this before/during the fox banners on global, i was planing to UE50 both my wifes
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we won
glory to blue archive
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>>575576976
Sukdeep needs his play cards.
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>>575577458
All cases between 0 and 400 pulls. Also after, but I don't know by how much.
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Pandemonium deserved better
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>>575577458
>Given that there were multiple ways to improve the gacha in a less convoluted way
Nooo the only way they can improve it and remove stress is by making it like the other predatory gachas
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someone post about this whole kerfuffle to r/statistics
I'm curious what the ultimate normies have to say (also I think in this case it's just boring millennials who watch HBO so no extra shitposting as result)
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>>575577268
He lost the 50/50
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Hmmm, I love natsu
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>>575577458
>significantly worse in the majority of cases
like?
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Reminds me of when FGO global fucked up something and you'd get a lot of corposhills going "please leave aniplex alone stop being entitled :(((" ultimately drowning the complaints.
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>>575577415
meanwhile in reality
>japanese people are okay with the change
>all the spammers on twitter are brown
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AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
I'M SO STRESSED
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If only any of these mathfags vibecoded a gacha simulator with both systems
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Can't wait for KR anniversary
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>>575577458
>They can now claim that the system is better than the old one in a narrow range of pulling behaviours
Literally better in all situations >>575577124
Did you people miss the milestone update this morning?
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>>575577492
wtf grey momoi
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>>575577584
like when you are a 0.0001% whale rolling 1000 times for dupes on every single banner
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>>575577486
>if you hit the 0.0204
Someone tell Kim to give this retard 1 free single at 389 so he would shut the fuck up.
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>>575577587
fact checked
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>UE60 already cost 2 rate-up dupes worth of elephs
>restructure the gacha so a player's optimal pulling strategy is just to get the two rate-up students once each then dip
>even the milestone rewards structure discourages going past 400 rolls for eleph/ligma hunting
Can't wait for mathchuds to defend the upcoming UE70 that will most likely cost 250 elephs(2.5 rate-up dupes) and the next difficulty after LUN that will force platkeks to upgrade all their BlueFes strikers to that point to keep up.
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>>575577486
>while rolling on the first
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>>575577667
he said behaviours, not number of pulls you dumb coon
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>>575576658
Yeah, jealous?
leave
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>>575577324
Wouldn't it be funny if it did? Imagine rolling for Seia and you don't get her because you got spooked by u.Akane.
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The new system complexly flips the psychology of the game. They are preparing their ground to use every cheap trick to milk you, but mathfags won't tell you that. Previously you pulled with 24k to get random amount of students. Now, you have to pull to get one student with a random amount. It's the basic merchant trick.

Only partial win we got is rebates that keep the bonus probability of 200 pulls similar, but they still fucked us hard.
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you don't understand they did this whole fiasco out of the goodwill of their hearts
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>>575577581
You didn't love her enough to go through the effort of saving the non-sample version of that image.
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>>575577616
I prescribe fapxercises
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDDkputmsfw
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aggie...
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>>575577689
You roll more than 400?
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>>575577274
I already know that as soon as I hit a situation where I have to go over 200 where I wouldn't have had to before it's going to feel like a kick in the balls and I don't trust Neon to keep these free roll tickets flowing with the way they're acting.
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JP and KR - forgib.
CN and Indo - still angry.
Really makes you think.
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>>575577689
I do LUN with only UE40s
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>>575577721
You must actually be korean given by much you are seething.
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>>575577721
kys Kim
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>>575577689
Nah, I'd borrow
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I assume this has been posted before

though also, I do think it's stupid. After all, it pretends Nexon doesn't have a lengthy and horrible history. Like it's squeaky clean, and this is all EA's fault. They're both shit. And yostar too
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So let me get this straight, you guys are telling me:
>the people saying hoyofication of the gacha is good, are from /bag/
>the people saying hoyofication of the gacha is bad, are from other generals
Is that right?
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>>575577673
>majority
>0.0001%
I am witnessing some next level third world education
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>>575577776
If the bot just rolled for you and presented the number of rolls spent and the results you won't know the exact underlying situation that caused those results. You don't have to feel anything.
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>>575577751
Is this the pitty system I'm hearing so much about
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>>575573217
Who?
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>>575577786
>JP and KR - forgib.
>two cultures infamous for their goycattle tendencies
naruhodo
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>>575577827
Also you are brown if you don't suck kike dicks
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I hate seia, she make me mad
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I'll edit my steam rating from negative to positive now
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they changed the gacha because they know too many people were winning the double banners with 200 pulls only, why else would they push you to go to 320 or 250.
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>>575577827
If by "hoyofication" you mean greatly increasing the number if students we get, then yes.
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>>575577717
What the fuck does that even mean. New system allows you to pull whanever you want. Old one on top of being worse at all times, only allowed you to pull if you had 200 already saved, just to make sure you did not waste all your recruitment points.
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>>575577786
Chinks are based when it comes to shit like this, the japanese are complete doormats who will accept anything. The koreans are only fine with it because it's a korean company and they control all aspects of life in korea, if they actually write any criticism they will get fired.
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>>575577674
>it's the one guy!
intern-kun is running dry on comebacks...
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>>575577689
>>even the milestone rewards structure discourages going past 400 rolls for eleph/ligma hunting
Looks like whales will have to either spend more money or get good, but how is this my problem?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuAKnbIr6TE
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>>575577798
>he expects the EA CEO to not require the next difficulty to require your own maxed striker AND borrowing another one
Congrats on your comfy gold.
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>>575577674
It's a 28% chance to happen per 1600 rolls (yearly rolls)
It's a 55% chance to happen per 800 fes rolls.
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So, they made the system not utter shit now.
They apologized for the "confussion"

But they didn't still said how many apologems we getting for this "confussion"
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where the leeks at?
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>>575577786
What about /bag/?
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>>575576841
Okay lucknigger
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>>575577964
>But they didn't still said
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>>575577885
you do not have more personal freedom than a Japanese person
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>>575577636
true
shill posters where's your response?
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Everyone who posted their raid trophies are OK with the new changes, some before and some after the details of the rebate was announced. Are the people still arguing against them just shitposting tourists?
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>>575577906
do it tomorrow when we're 100% sure bonus tickets count for pity
from the apology post it seems they do but it will be extra funny if they don't now
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>>575577981
False flag
I can use photoshop too
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>>575577923
No because the reward track gives you more for rolling repeatedly on one banner. The carryover pity went out of the window because you're better off doing 200 pulls to get a character than carrying a guarantee to another banner.
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>>575577827
I know you're just trying to boogeyman to deflect from the math but Hoyo didn't invent the concept of chance
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stupid chud why can't you trust the math, don't you see that nexon only wants what's good for you
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Knowing that 24k is th exact amount you have to drop at the worst case scenario is far less stressful than a fucking coinflip
Yeah yeah 160 rolls to guarantee, but the the coinflip is literally an unnecessary addition, it adds nothing BUT stress
What the hell is Kim yapping about?
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>All other gacha shitposting suddenly gone

Feels good to know who's the top dog here.
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>>575577923
>New system allows you to pull whanever you want.
lol
lmao
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>>575577858
Math iterated by Kim himself
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>>575578063
this
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>>575577786
The based Chinks that live under the CCP?
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So... global will get this changes for the pandemonium summer fes or will be implemented sooner?
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>>575577587
Um, excuse me, but all those people complaining are legitimate Japanese and Korean citizens.
>checks twitter
>Account based in Hong Kong, Account based in Taiwan, Account based in Viet Nam, Account based in Philippines, Account based in Mexico, Account based in Indonesia ,Account based in Chile, Account based in East Asia, Account based in Singapore, Account based in Peru
A-actually, those are just Japanese and Korean bros using VPNs to protect their privacy!
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>>575577923
>whanever
I am once again asking why every 50/50 defender is ESL.
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>>575578047
Retard the reward track is shared across all banners during the same recruitment period.
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>>575578064
You realize a "coin flip" occurs every single pull, yes?
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>>575578047
>on one banner
it's cumulative across banners within the same period
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If the new system really was better why would they not have a live audience and explain why it was better
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>>575577786
we already knew japs and gooks were honorary niggers, you don't need to convince anyone
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>>575577981
This has happened to me 4 times in the past half a year. GOD I FUCKING LOVE THE GACHA CHANGES
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>>575578145
Because they are jeets. Indians always defend kikes and their practices.
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>gacha system made under an EA kike
It's shit.
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>>575578063
Post your raid trophies.
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>>575578176
Because people need to have the dick in their ass before they know they're gay
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>>575578064
You are going to win the coinflip half of the time, whenever you get lucky save those pulls for when you get unlucky. There you go, problem fixed. Everything is also 25% cheaper now so you won't have any problems doing this.
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No you must not give in. Complain harder so they would give us more rebated tickets
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Why are we larping as a mathematician and not lewding a woman?
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>>575578119
Just got a call from Kim. It's coming during Foxes.
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>>575577959
That's assuming it'll be LUN for gold that shit isnt gonna happen outside of maybe rematches with Benis.
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>>575578064

Now 19200 is the number fucktard, with a big chance of you getting the character halfway.
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Blue Archive won
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>>575577726
Nothing stops you from rolling exactly 200 times.
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>>575578176
They should have also have a live band like Genesis, for Phil Collins sing a special song about math and probabilities so that players could learn in a fun way about why the new system is better. also In The Air Tonight
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new system makes your cock bigger
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you can always stop playing and leave
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The new system is objectively better at providing a stress-free experience.
I'll no longer have the stress of gambling with my real money, since it's convinced me that buying gems isn't worth it anymore. It's a pretty refreshing feeling, thanks Kim.
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Beyond the falseflaggers in this general, I still do not understand how the majority of the subreddit has a consensus on the old system being better.

Is there a memetic disesase that turns people retarded on reddit? It would explain so much.
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>>575577923
saar...
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>>575577689
>>restructure the gacha so a player's optimal pulling strategy is just to get the two rate-up students once each then dip
This was always the optimal pulling strategy in every case outside of the one where you got the pickup in the 180-200 range (an extremely rare scenario). The new system still gives you enough extra ligma in rebates and spooks to make out for this.
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>>575578064
The coin flip is at 100 rolls not 200 you fucking moron. It's still 24k for an exact guarantee.
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>>575578161
>>575578168
Read the context. You still can't roll without being able to commit, so you can't roll "whanever" as he said.
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A lot of people shill the gacha change because the free Miyako you get from losing the coinflip completely removes all the stress. We love Miyako the most. Thank you Kim.
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>>575578257
the new AVERAGE number, not guarantee
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>>575578328
They were never playing in the first place seeing as no one against the changes as is now posted their raid trophies.
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If these retards can't even read the announcements isn't it cruel to expect them to understand simple math?
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>>575578193
the sheer lack of self awareness to be from a fifth world country and post something like this
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>>575578362
>you have to do the thing I tell you to in order to prove yourself
Holy narcissism, who do you think you are?
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>>575578357
19200 guarantees one student just as 24000 guarantees one student before. 24000 gives a 76% chance of two students just like 24000 gives a 75% chance of two students before.
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>>575577858
you get hair with a 50/50 chance
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>>575578249
I am larping as a woman and lewding a mathematician
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>>575578329
>The new system is objectively better at providing a stress-free experience.
The 50/50 is inherently meant to be stressful
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>>575578345
It's LESS than 24K even, because of the rebates.
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>>575577924
Yeah, just like chink seethe caused Mihomo to give more rewards than 20 rolls for the anniversary or delete the Wanderer instead of shilling him more.
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Why didn't they just add the new 50/50 to the current gacha system? Without removing anything
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>>575578342
>180-200 range (an extremely rare scenario)
Not for me. Happened 4 times last year.
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ba shining so bright because its burning to the fucking ground
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>>575578439
No, the 50/50 reduces stress by giving you the student early and saving you 100 rolls.
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Ok, but what if they increase the rates to 5% with 1.2% being the rate up?
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>>575578119

I hope its sooner. I had to 400 shuppos and if it happens again during foxes it will kill my reserves, the discount from the new system woudl be huge. Also want to throw 100 pulls in dress Mitsuki and if she doesn't come throw the rest in Nagusa.
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>>575578453
Money
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>>575578439
At least read the rest of the post.
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>>575578329
Everyone said the changes will make it cheaper to get characters so I can cancel my monthly now.
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>>575577981
This has happened to me only once with Niko and Kurumi, usually I'd stop at 200.
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Making products for japan must be amazing desu, you can fuck people over as much as possible and it just doesn't matter to them.
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>>575578453
Because that would actually reduced player stress
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>>575578470
It didn't, but it will under the new system
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>>575578453
If they were trying to make a better system they would just add a 50/50 at 100, yes. Because their goal is to add the pity reset, too many people were getting both rate ups within 200 rolls
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pro new gacha bros sound like gambling addicts finding out about the martingale and thinking they fucked the matrix, when all it did was make them even more addicted
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>>575578446
Nigga just because I spend $200 and get $40 in return does not mean I didn't spend $200
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>>575578432
Where do I find an accountant wife? All of the accountants I know are middle aged and cranky.
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>>575578470
Good for you. But this will only happen to 1 in 10000 people.
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Just have the old and new system exist at the same time like Snowbreak and P5X holy shit
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>>575578218
post passport
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>>575578476
People are not accounting for the stress when you are at 150+ rolls and still haven't gotten anyone. Will you make it to 200 and be able to get both? Or will you have to give up on one? I faced that scenario so many times and it hurts every time I lose.
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>>575578476
That only works in games whith the 1 new characrer and 1 rerun. Is not the same for a game where you get two new characters every time
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>>575578590
>Where do I find an accountant wife? All of the accountants I know are middle aged and cranky.
Blue Archive
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I for one welcome the 8 billion Miyako dupes I’ll receive when I lose every single 50/50
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>>575578545
It's precisely why gooks make business with them lol
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>>575578357

No its the guarantee you fucking retarded.
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>>575577981
Many such cases.
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>>575578587
And so spending $200 WITHOUT getting $40 back is better? Great logic jeet bro
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naked kids
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>>575578609
You don't have to pull both students you know?
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>>575578481
The impulsive lucklet is still scared to start pulling without 200 saved because those slight increases are psychologically negligible to him. Still too much stress.
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coom in doom
rope in hope
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Do those knee-jerk panic additional rolls even count towards the pity? Are we even sure they're a permanent addition to the banners? Those rolls sound like something that'll be removed once players get acclimated to the new system.
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>>575578587
You get the rebates before you hit 200 pulls. It's not after the banner.
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>>575578629
Ready for UE70. Just think of how many PvP coins you're gonna save.
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>>575578664
>admits that he doesn't play the game
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>>575578453
Because the current 200 recruitment point system sucks balls. It never allows you to pull for anything if you don't have already 200 out of fear of losing them. Carryover, 50/50 and rebates with improved averages is a more modern and flexible system. Just get on with the times man
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>>575578635
Only if the free rolls count towards pity
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on the day of this system hitting global someone is gonna get miyako on their first coinflip and post about it on here and it's gonna be funny for everyone except that guy
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>>575578516
I wanted to get dress Mutsuki too but I couldn't justify spending 200 pulls. The advantages of the new system are immediately apparent to anyone who actually plays the game.
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Isakusan status?
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>>575578649
Of what, only Nozomi matters, who cares about the retarded sister
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>>575578649
>not skipping nozoom
retard
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>>575578654
>Has to put words in my mouth to win his imaginary argument
Nice job getting mad at shit I didn't say
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So its basically a better system but some people are mindbroken about 50/50 because of other gacha experience
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>>575578432
This post calls for a gook Yuuka
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>>575578691
no refunds, you rike?
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>>575578748
>>575578748
>>575578748
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>>575578709
They do.
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>>575578740
Oh sorry for assuming you were even trying to have a point, a shit one but I guess it still counts as a point.
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>>575578691
>Do those knee-jerk panic additional rolls even count towards the pity?
Yes.
>Are we even sure they're a permanent addition to the banners?
Yes.
>Those rolls sound like something that'll be removed once players get acclimated to the new system.
People would riot. And I mean actual people (Japanese citizens), not """people""".
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>>575578453
It's for your own good. Don't question it, it's what brown people do. You don't want to be brown, do you? Now spin that gacha
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>>575578302
Nothing stops me from stopping at any arbitrary number. It's the tricks they will use that gets you. You're not smart, you will slip up, you will lose three 50/50 in a row and start thinking that one pakeji looks good.
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>>575578453
Because the spark is the thing they want to get rid of. Everything else is just dressing it up to make it palateable
>Problem: Player hoard pyros for the students they want the most and don't swipe
>Solution: Remove the spark to encourage players to roll more often and drain their reserves with coinflips so they end up swiping on a bad run
>Problem: Players will be mad at this change
>Solution: Give them just enough extras to appease them.

And then we have the new system.

Also note the blatant 10 rolls at 130, 150 and 170.
Oh I'll just roll another 10 because I get another 10 free!
Oh I'll just roll another 10 because I get another 10 free!
And yes, people will fall into that trap too.
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>>575578814
You will never be japanese, Ahmed
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>>575578404
why immediately assume I'm american?
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>>575578063
This but unironically

>>575578218
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>>575578476
No, it increases stress due to perceived bigger failure. The outcomes are not seen as equal.
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>>575578041
yeah fuck you, 200 on rio/himari and had to choose one to spark and let go of the other, 400 on anni and had to spark both
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>>575578453
cus then they wouldnt make as much money

anybody trying to paint this otherwise is just trolling, its convoluted because it makes them more money in the end, typical yellow jew behavior
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you don't hate jews enough
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>>575577885
EN side is also infamous for being notoriously retarded in 90% of their chimp outs so it evens out in the end
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>>575578453
Too much work, now pay up, oekugin
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Babu
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>>575574273
Fine. I am horny, wanna do it then? Together? Faster? Harder? Until can't stand it anymore? Wanna keep going until you have to...? With me? At the same time? Huh huh huh? Hows that?
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so, it's over or not?
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>>575582963
Sure!
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