For Da Emprah>Previous>>575711316>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien bugs, bots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSAugust 12 Warhammer 40k Warbond https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmSGgtwanHoJul 14 Lightning Intercept https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7TqsET5yHMJul 23 Supply FRV full rollout https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/680756051157452526Jul 28 Permanent Enclosure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afl_8m6Zl_E>LATEST PATCHESJun 16 1.006.300 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/676249280988579951Jul 07 1.006.301 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/696516748689543612
>>575809536
this warbond sucks
>no marine armor>no heavy bolterNarrowhead ruining the game with the grunt fantasy again
this game is ass
Melta and mines are cool, everything else is meh
stuff on the warbond looks ok im very whelmed need to get my hands on it before i start to doom post about it
>>575809768We were never going to get marine armor, you retard.A heavy bolter emplacement would be cool, though.
I'm hyped for the True Grit armor passive ngl
>>575809784built for brawnydiver rape
>random chink mods mog official contentIt's never been more over.
Eos tomorrow
>Lasgun HotshotIf it has dogshit ergo and similar damage range like Hyena and DCS then its dead in the water>Bolt PistolPistol Dominator, dead in the water>Melta mineJust use giga or thermite, its dead in the water.>MeltagunIf it has at LEAST AT1 penetration then its usable. If its heavy pen, just use Laser Cannon or other supports. Dead in the water.>ArmorsetThe new meta. Literally built for HMG, MMG, Autocannons, RR, Spear etc.
>>575809540>when I specifically look for the 40k people clapping like seals in the sea of negative comments I find them >oink oink oink
The flamethrower has the most variations in the game.>side-arm>primary>stratagem>backpack-fed stratagem>mech>frvNot even mentioning grenadesYou a firechad yet?
To be fair, the swedes had a month or less to cobble this together in a panic after the FRV fiasco
>>575810041You forgot the stoker, fireGOD
>No rapid fire hotshot lasgun>The hotshot marksman rifle fires those gay yellow bolts gw keep trying to push instead of the red beamMore like hotshit. Into the trash it goes
>>575810024>If it has dogshit ergolook at the passive of the armorIt has never been more over
>>575810024>The new meta. Literally built for HMG, MMG, Autocannons, RR, Spear etc.Correct, I just wish it wasn't so fucking ugly.Here is hoping that a regular warbond will powercreep it and will actually look good.
>Cadian WarbondI'm grunting! thank you AH.
At this point I'm wishing the Guard died before the planet did.
>lasgun fires projectilesburn GW to the ground.
>>575810154Ah, you’re right, my friend.Not to mention all of the other incendiary laced weapons now that I think of it.
>>575809947>Look it up>It's trueOH NO NO NO, SWEDEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>>575810282It could have been worse. At least it's not Krieg.
>new hot shot mechanic>has both a heat system like all laser guns and ammo like the rest of the weapons>if you heat it enough the gun explode killing you and anyone nearbydid you like it
>consoomer cattle slopping this half baked bullshit up
>>575810321I think that's just a model rip from Space Marine 2.
Why these bastards are trying for the second time to push sniper weapons where they are absolutely not needed
>Power creep the DCS with the Hyena>Power creep the hyena with the hotshot a month laterAmazing
>>575810041Don't forget incendiary (non impact) grenade is one of the best if not THE BEST grenade for both squid and bug front now.
We all knew that one armor set was going to be Cadians/Kasrkins.What’s the other set though? I’m still a newfag in 40k
>>575810387I want to rape the rat girland this >>575810013 one too
Meh. I don't think it makes up for two months of particularly silly sw*dish shenanigans.
Shut the fuck up O2, you subhuman crutch shitter filth
>>575810041the launcher?and the incendiary grenade launcher that's been rotting in the files since day 1?
>>575810387Censor is pretty good on bots.>>575810446Demolition Trooper from the new Cadian army line (goes with the meltagun and meltamine). They kind of fumbled the modeling, though, and gave it a different color scheme for some reason.
>>575810041>You a firechad yet?
>>575810387their good tho
>>575810024>metaNigga this game is easy on D10 why the fuck do people care about meta
>beam meltaRare these days, not opposed to it. But the armor is fucking hideous, literally looks WIP, or like they ripped the assets from some game from the early 2010s.
Hold still /hdg/It's joever
>melta gun is not beltfedi guess we already have a belt fed flamethrower i guess hope the ammo economy on it is half way decent and it has a anti tank ammo rating otherwise it will be dead in the water
>>575810645
>>575810723Meltas are never backpack fed why would this one be?
>>575810780>CLOZZY STATUSCLOZZY STATUS>CLOZZY STATUSCLOZZY STATUS>CLOZZY STATUS
Apparently some people actually playtested this one
>>575810723I assume it's going to be AP5 MINIMUM, preferably AP 6 or even 7. Meltas are basically the premier anti-tank weaponry in 40k, after all.>>575810786Maybe he wanted a multi-melta.
>>575810723Heavy melta rifles and multi meltas are backpack fed and guardsmen don't get those
>>575810870Oh so its definitely gonna be bad
>>575810870That's irrelevant because every dev works on their own version of the game.
There are two ways to balance the melta gun, with the fixed caveats of "short range" and "limited ammo":1. low armor pen of Heavy equivalent to Laser Cannon, but much higher DPS2. same or similar DPS as Laser Cannon, but much higher armor pen Anti Tank 1 or AT2
>>575810387why these bloody bastard bitchless developers always fucking the up a game I do not play
Is this the 1st trailer where the divers are actually shown being competent and not killing each other/jobbing
>>575810490>crutchIt's funny to read this in a thread where more than half use 500kg, napalm and ultimatum.
>>575810993You're using the Quasaar cannon, pigger
>>575810387Cause they want to please botgods. They are pretty useless on other fronts except maybe appropriator squids
>>575810615They do look better in-game, I will say, based on the preview page and screenshots taken on the super destroyer. The trailer made them look really bad with the particular lighting they chose.
>>575810387>>575810993shut the fuck up pigger
>>575809768Shut up, retard.
>>575810321step 1. cover yourself in oil
>>575810947It makes no sense for a melta gun to have low pen>Melta Weapons emit devastatingly intense but short-ranged blasts of heat which can melt through almost any material
Close your eyes, it'll all be over soon
>>575810873Meltas are fucking trash in 40k as of recent and only fit for use against light vehicles. Lascannons are the premier anti-tank weapon....so AP4.
>>575810993>500kgthat sack of shit can't reliably kill hulksit's a glorified chaff clearer
>>575810786sorry not a warhammer fag some anon share a pic of a tempestus scions not long ago and i got cofused is all looking at the pick he shared yeah i got confused lol
>>575810993lil bro half of the time I see you you're just running away while spamming stims while your guard dog farms the kills behind youyou're probably one of the gayest players itt
>>575811101>The crotch plates do not extend over the crotch
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244838226675/76561198452730369diff 10 bots>>575811048holy shit this is so sad lmao>bolt pistol side armWill suck>Marksman laser riflewell see>Meltermight be fun
>>575810024>Caring about meta in hd2You are a loser.
>>575811148>Meltas are fucking trash in 40k as of recentHistorically they've been fusion cannons that slagged vehicles that worked better at close range. Though I'll agree that Lascannons are better. Sadly the best we have is the Quasar, which is very weak compared to a Lascannon.>>575811219It's abdominal plating, I believe.
>>575811180It was probably a hotshot volley gun, which kind of look like meltas at a glance
The armor mod look better. Weapon are cool tho
>>575811162Works on my machine. You probably just too dumb to use right.
>>575811101>hot shot lasgun>not actually hotshot at allthere's no backpack. why would they call it that? they're clearly taking stuff from the Kasrkin Kill Team, but the Kasrkin have a longlas for marksmanship.
>>575811219The rigid part of the armor only covers the ribcage, with a flexible series of panels used to cover the stomach area.
Do you guys think the other 2 collab patterns will also go on the tank with the release of the update?Or will they need even more time negotiating with the IP holders?
>>575810813
So, what's the lore behind us getting Warhammer stuff?
>months of nothing only to be a tie-in launch with new minis>get them horribly wrong>good goys only know space marines anywayDenthead shooting themselves in the foot and goy workshop wasting money on this jeet tier promo?Amazing
My fellow citizen...I've just been informed the Warhammer warbond is chopped...
>>575810601>theirgood morning!
>can't have an honest discussion about helldivers on /hdg/ because everyone is huffing their own farts and doomposting>can't have an honest discussion about helldivers on because everyone is huffing their own farts and glazing sweden and AHis there a place i can talk about this game where anyone has an iq higher than 80
>>575811554Helldivers Mobilize is the new Rizz King.
>>575810870>tested for months>it took them MONTHS to make a poorly textured action figure armorinb4 all the texturing work went onto the super store armor which will be le krieg or le spacemarine but helldiver
>>5758111012/4
Can I set myself on fire to get free hotshot ammo
Wait I am very confused nowI always thought the melter was a flamethrower?In the 14 hours book I remember it was the only good weapon against orcs and they needed to secure the fuelAnd in Dead man walking Melter was good against necrons
What's the hd2 lore reason for this Collab?
>>575811510>>575811319Direct your attention here >>575811492While it obviously protects the stomach, it also extends enough to provide protection for the gonads, but not in Swedistan.
>hot shot shown overpenning and killing 3 votelesswhat are the implications
>>575811680bro joined the warbond
>>575811514wooo, full black pattern, must've taken so much work to do this one.
>>575811743that's it's at least ap3 and deals more than 380 dmg
>>575811492That gun is actually labeled as a Hot-Shot Marksman Rifle in the model line. Technically speaking, I think Hot-Shot weapons can be run off regular power packs, but drain them dry so fast a backpack is merited. At least if you go by the RPG line.
>content drought >everyone hallucinates good content coming>wait forever >AH gives dogshit content>everyone so butthurt that it's dogshitThey do this every single time... why are you tards still surprised when the retards don't deliver. This game has been a rotting corpse for a while now and you are still trying CPR
>>575810870how the fuck is their not a Bolter
>>575811535GW are on a big markerting push for upcoming releases (dow4, total warhammer40k) this year in terms of vidya, and are launching refreshed minis apparently so tosses snoy and denthead some cash to be a billboard. There's your lore, be sure to buy some SC citizen
>>575811084I use any AA except RR, including epoch and commandoAlso, I wrote a few months ago that quasar should be removed from the game.>>575811198I agree, I should be a faggot who spams Eagle on every patrol.
>>575811490>1500 damage>10 meters before fall-off cripples it even furtherit's a dogshit bomb with barely any damage and too few usesa single EAT does more damage
>>575811672Collabs don't have superstore items
>>575811724Nigger, melta weapons are for anti tank. What ever novel you read isn't gonna give lore accurate info.
>>575811492No that’s the correct name for it, it’s called that in their wargear options
>>575811492Holy secondary. Hotshots come with and without the backpack. A hotshot las cell is something one can acquire and chuck in their standard lasgun for extra oomph. Stop posting shit when you haven't done any research
>>575811492Secondary please GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOBBYGo JERK IT to some KRIEGERS
>>575811806Tossed*
>>575811803A regular bolter is a bit too much for an unaugmented human to handle.
>>575811783>that's it's at least ap3 and deals more than 380 dmgGood enough to core out the skulls on Overseers, at least. Maybe Cyborg Agitators as well.
>>575811849What stops them from doing it, that would be even more free money
>>575811724It's a very powerful flamethrower that simply melts everything in its path. It's basically a big strong blowtorch
>Armor Passive - True Grit>+20 weapon handling, +30% reload speed for support weaponsNew meta armor confirmedAt least the HMG will no longer force me to use the butt ugly viper commando armor
>>5758112583/4
>>575811880but is a melter good against necrons in the board games doe
>>575811795So do you still play the game or are you here to just shit post?
>>575809878It's honestly borderline overpowered just from the reload speed boost lmao. A 30% reduction is fucking huge, even bigger if it somehow applies to assisted reloads (you'll probably be reloading faster than some guns can fire at that point).
>>575811791The marksmen likely doesn't use a backpack because he's taking much more precise shots. He'll drain his entire cell in a single shot or a few depending on power settings, but he's not expected to fire a lot.
>>575811895What if the Hot-Shot Marksman has the same pseud-suppressed qualities that the Hyena does?
>>575811891>>575811894>>575811895Aight, my bad. Calm down, damn.>2ndaryI own that kill team.
>>57581204030% reduction on RR means you are fast enough to snipe EVERY SINGLE DROP SHIP if you are not an aimlet
>>575811258fvll
40KCELS ARE SEETHING!
>>575811930Wrong, there are human boltguns. Stop posting "facts" if you don't know jack SHIT.I foretold this coming of the secondaries and I was right REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>575812137Too bad it doesn't kill it's cargo
>>575812137Only on reinforcement calls, but not on bricks missions.
A meltagun uses ammo made from the essence of burnt children. The gun grows in strenght the more exotic the essence used such as elder, orc, rat or ogryn kids, pretty grimdark.
>>575812137>shoot down a dropship>kill five troopers>give cover for devastators that will just clip and shoot you through the wreckagenice one faggot you're really usefulfaggots shooting dropships with anything else than the bastion or spear are an active detriment to the team every single time
>goybond was so rushed and half assed that the promo armor colors don't even match the game modelDoomgods eating good today.
>>575812093Post your KT right now to redeem yourself.Pic rel is my necromunda gang.
>>575811101Is this hot shot slot shooting yellow bullets or is it a true laser blaster like the Talon and Trident?
>>575812093>I own that kill teamMaybe do some fucking research on the guard and their weaponry then you newgen turbonigger
>>575812238Honestly it's better to just reserve your RR/Bastion shots for dropships carrying War Striders, Tanks, Factory Striders, and Vox Engines.
>>575812269uh oh armor color melty
>>575812185It still kills some enemies and pollutes the battlefield slowing bot advances. Warstriders get damaged from the fall damage a bit too.Shit like tanks you can aim directly at them instead of ships.With improved handling you might have a chance to kill the bunship before it starts it's landing animation which should wipe out all cargo too.
>>575811930there's light bolters designed for non-Astartes to use.
>>575811162It's a structure buster that you take for its 50 demo.>>575812238The spear has even less ammo than the recoilless.
>>575811930Imperial guard sergeants could(can?) take bolters. Some guardsmen are strong enough to fire heavy bolters without having them setup.Human scale bolters are a bit smaller than marine sized bolters.Keep yourself safe.
Remember when we got the ODST warbond a bunch of desperate halofags invaded /hdg/ for a while?The slophammer warbond will be like that when it drops, but ten times worse. Until this just another warhammer thread, where talking about anything else is forbidden. Just like what happend to /twg/AH being desperate enough for a 40k bond is the beginning of the end
>>575812269>anon doesn't understand what blue and black looks like under yellow lightThis is that whole "white dress/blue dress" shit all over again.
>>575812184I WILL give my ignorant unfiltered opinion and you WILL correct me.
>Yellow Lasers againWhy is GW so absolutely fucking hellbent on pushing this shit?
I fucking hate Cadians thoughbeit. Would have preferred tempestus scions.
>>575811519Baldur's Gate looking ass MF
>>575812375shooting the engine won't kill any of the shit you listed retard unless you snipe it at 200 meters while the damage model is still simplifiedand you won't do that reliably nor will 7/8 of the RRbabswhat will happen instead the cargo will unhook as the dropship is spinning out and it will deploy normally>>575812423>The spear has even less ammo than the recoilless.it's not a matter of ammo you twitspear is the only handheld with enough damage to deplete the dropship's fuselage hp with one shot which will result in an instant kill for any cargo it's carried before unhookingshooting the engine with an RR for an epic skillshot as most retards do will only result with some damage from the explosion from the dropship impacting the ground which does fuckall to anything that matters
>>575812526sorry buddy, the classic red laser beams are now exclusive to HH :)
>>575812589atleast he is not chopped
>>575812526Because they've always been yellow, and every normie thinks they're red because a few games made them red.
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>575812389>pollutes the battlefield slowing bot advances.What game have you been playing because in my one they just shoot and walk through it
>>575812565We all would, but we also know GW will always make it Cadians. I wish they rotated through to a different regiment every time guard appeared in a video game
>>575812636You snipe it while it's still moving, anon, not after it's already stopped for deployment. I have consistently gotten kills on the occupants of dropships that way. P
>>575810993500kg honestly isn't even that good. Most of the time you'd be better off with Eagle Air Strike, especially against Factory Striders. I think the main reasons people use it is because it's simple to use and it looks cool, which I guess is a credit to how cool the design is. Napalm and Ultimatum, however, are crutches.
>>575812526The bigger issue is the shots look like star wars laser beams, instead of being a solid flash that immediately hits the target.
>>575812526>there's totally nothing wrong with yellow lasers
>>575812526enshittification humiliation ritual
>>575812270Nice gang. My guys came out slightly treasonous.
>>575812526>use red lasgun on bot front>get friendly fired half a dozen times
>>575812782When's the next episode?
Warhammer seems really lame desu
>*shoots curry beam at you*EAT THAT YOU BLOODY BENCHOD
>>575812493A little bit of lightning doesn't magically turn a black armor into green armor, retard.
stats doko
>>575812636I would like to believe you but everytime I start sniping dropships on D10 bot flags they become a cakewalk and everytime I don't snipe them it is always a living hell especially on pubs.Anecdotal evidence I know but I am not convinced that I am being utterly useless while sniping dropships.This is also even more obvious on eradicate bots missions. Bring RR + deploy resupply near you and the game is suddenly so easy compared to NOT doing.
>>575812737>You snipe it while it's still moving, anon, not after it's already stopped for deployment. I have consistently gotten kills on the occupants of dropships that way. Pok retard I am sure you have - as I've said, the explosion of the dropship impacting the ground carries enough damage to kill some of the lesser cargo like troopers or scout stridersthe decceleration phase doesn't magically change anything unless you're far enough from the dropship in question at which stingray's LOD handling makes it so your engine shot is considered a total kill for reasons unknownsource: I've crashed enough lobbies with RR AA meta after 60 day patch to know what's actually going on
>Better weapon handling >Faster SUPPORT weapon reload speedInstant fucking top tier, up there with Siege Ready.
>>575812890Harry potter for ww2 autists
>>575812678You do know that everything related to Warhammer has to be officially approved by the oversight comity at GW right?They only started pushing this recently.otherwise every single Las weapon in Darktide would be yellow too.
>>575812867You don't need to shoot red lasers to get caught in friendly fire around pubbies
>>575812950You can pretty clearly see what ACTUAL green armor looks like under the same lighting in the uncropped image. The one on the left is blue with black padding.
>>575812950Yes it fucking does you actual fucking retard. Lighting has a huge effect on perceived color.
I AM OBSESSED WITH ZAPPING MY OWN BALLS WITH ARC DAMAGE (-95%)
>>575812492Bwo, you're acting like this isn't one of the worst generals on /vg/ already
>>575812987new crutch
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>dadgamer>crutchNew izzat farmer bait spam terms to filter, I guess.
>>575813087It doesn't need to get even worse due to /tg/fags and slophammer subhumans
>>575811048What's going to be the lore explanation for the 40k gear?>Killzone warbond >Weapons were made by stal arms and armor was repurposed hazmat gear>Halo warbond>Armor/weapons were either based on a cartoon or a intelligence branch of SE
>>575812829BY THE EMPEROR!
>armor not even out and it already mindbroke the nerf tranniesWhat a glorious day
>>575812980I've literally killed factory striders and tanks using this method within 50m. Usually the factory striders will hit the ground and then immediately die, but the tanks tend to get stuck in the air while dead.
>>575812970I have never, and I mean NEVER played a match with the RR aspie shooting down dropships during which I didn't have to clean up after the guy with the ABRL - you shoot down the dropship, enemies fall to the ground, I shoot at the wreckage and still get 8 kills out of the 11 units carriedThis was a viable tactic back before the dropships got their main body hp buffed to 3500 but nowadays you're being an annoying faggot at best, doubly so during flag missions where you just know that some of the downed dropships will fall straight onto the flag zone
>>575810993you see those often because faggots stick together
>>575812987AH making the weapons shit but the armor top tier so people still want to get it just for that is kinda genius desu
What i find so funny about this is that Helldivers depiction of the meltagun is more lore accurate then the space marine 2 depiction
>>575812017I'm confident that I have more hours in it than you. I will say whatever I want to
>>575813173>NewThe newest thing here is (You)
>>575813075The blue/white dress incident revealed to me how many people are born with bad brains.
>>575813173>newif you're a newfag tourist, maybe
>mfw I'm never getting my helldiver anon gf now
>>575810993>500kgWhy do fags still use it when the precision strike is 10x better?
>>575812980>LOD handling makes it so your engine shot is considered a total kill for reasons unknownThis "bug" still in the game?
>>575813298>space marine 2is it like in the first game where it was just a glorified shotgun?
>>575812678They've always varied SECONDARY.In old artwork most of the yellow is just muzzleflashes with no beams because the artists barely knew what was going on and are just drawing guns.If anything in old art the main colour I can remember is blue when actual beams were drawn.In books it's varied between red, blue, yellow, depending on the weapon, or regiment. The games stuck to mainly red. Probably to help differentiate it from the tracers of other weapons.Final Liberation had lasguns and multilasers as blue by the way.
I'm just lurking here waiting for another SC cheat to pop up. I don't even play the game anymore.
>>575813298Fuck SM2 meltagun
>>575813472>He doesn't know
Apparently the blue Demo Trooper armor signifies the Cadian 122nd, who are a designated urban combat regiment.
helloooooowhere is warbond?
>>575811724A Meltagun is an anti tank weapon that shoots concentrated beams of super heated microwavesit's basically a microwave gun
>>575813440It is, and just like fumbling your magazines it will never be resolvedIt might be musings of a schizo but I'm fairly certain the rocket strider LOD issue returned for a bit around the time of the entrenched div patch
I know nothing about 40k but Meltagun is such a dumb weapon name. It's like calling something a shootagun
>>575813448It basically fires a big "puff" of heat, but yeah.
>>575813657>he doesn't know
>>575813615August 12th, which is a Wednesday, which means the World is ending.
>>575813298>lore accurateis it? where is it stated how these things actually work? I was under the impression that it was left vague for a long time.
>>575813615two more weeks
>>575813346desu that one was always fucky because of it being cropped and brightened to shit. So it's understandable why someone could see it as one or the other.As an aside, the carpet and wallpaper in some of the original backrooms photos are actually a pinkish purple.
>>575813657Oh boy do I have news for you...
>>575813448Yes. Although there are some other games that also do the shotgun style melta gun shots.
>>575813615On august 12th.Also, there's no Harakoni War hawks stuff, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
>>575813069>>575813075Troon delusions. It was clearly intended to have these colors.
30% faster reload honestly doesn't sound that strong. It'd rather take recoil reduction for most machine guns. If you stick with your team, the long reload on the machine guns really isn't that dangerous.
>>575813753>Literally 2 weeks from now Beyond parody
>>575813756People still swore on the uncropped images, though. I can sort of understand when you have no reference, but when you actually have contextual coloring of nearby objects?
>>575813815who gives a shit about mg reloadsit's about being able to cut down your RR/Spear/WASP/ABRL reload times, especially for the last one since no staged reloads
>>575813657>We have a laser gun what should we call it>How about Lasgun?>We have a gun that melts things what should we cal it>I know! Meltagun!
>>575813657
>>575813519I'm not paying for cheats.>>575813657>he doesn't knowNobody tell him.
>>575813657[LAUGHS IN ORKISH]
>>575813814see>>575813571The associated banner for it on the warbond is even called "City Fighter's Resolve."
>>575813909
>>575809554>this warbondMeltamine and Meltatun seem nice but not nice enough. Time to...buy Dust Devils!
>>575813657bro you're not going to believe this....
>projectile lasgunI want to get off mr Workshop's wild ride!
>no Sister armorWasted potential.
>>575813909>we have this thing that shoots flames...>I know a flamer!>uhh how about these psychic dudes?>psyker!I dunno what to tell you mang
Realistically what fronts would a mine throwable be good?
>>575813909Better than the asstra militarum lorem ipsus laserus gunnus maxus
>>575814096>no white hair bolter bitch anons to have fun with
>>575814159The lure mine is broken on squids
>>575814159All.
>>575814159Almost exclusively bots, and even then you're probably better off with the giga-grenade.The one exception is if the Meltamine has a demo force of at least 50, in which case you can use it to blow up strategem jammers and detector towers.
no one seems excited about the bolter pistol
>>575814401>Dominator but secondaryGee I wonder why
chopped warbondthat'll be 2000 sc, faggots!
>>575814401It's an eruptor pistol without the shrapnel.No one was excited for the nerfed eruptor either.
>>575814401It's not going to be better than AT secondaries, so why bother?
>>575812269>Mental retard filtered by warm lighting
>>575814401Using a bolter pistol would require people to stop using the ultimatum, which terrifies most of the playerbase.
>>575814159Depends on how many you get and how exactly it works.It needs to compete with the gigagrenade. And probably won't manage to be as good.
>>575814401Hard to judge. If it's got demo force, it replaces the grenade pistol. If it's just another Verdict, what's the point?
>>575814401I am, seems a straight upgrade to the nade pistol if it can close holes
It's refreshing to see a good shitshow in hdg
>>575814096arent they wearing power armor lite?
>>575814159Squids have nothing worth using AT on aside from the fun police, and you're not throwing your AT mine that highBiletitans are practically immune to mines thanks to their silly stilt legs that are made out of indestructium, I guess it made be okay for chargers if you get more than like 2. Could be mildly funny in tunnels thoughBots is probably the best, although factory striders and vox niggers are also pracitcally immune to AT mines
>>575814527Don't look at me, I use the Pissile.
Oh my.
>>575814401Secondaries are worthless outside of shitposting with a melee weapon or backup AT like missile pistol and ultimatum.The normal secondaries are so shit its better to reload your main weapon than to try to switch to them and expend it's entire magazine to kill like 1/15 bugs chasing you.
the bolter pistol is going to completely invalidate the existence of the veto
>>575814740oh no anyway
>>575814702Diamonds
>>575814401I am :)everything looks fun
bolter pistol will be the first secondary with less than 40 ergoultimatumbabs need not apply
>>575814096Dont worry anon, we can still pretend you're a sororitas
Isn't the pissile only good for taking out gunships and fabricators? I don't get the hype
>>575814504>lightning turns completely black armor into green you guizeBe glad that the left shoulder is hidden to expose your retardation, mental midget.
>>575814702If the Hot-Shot Marksman is AP4 I will cream my pants.
>>575809554The desperate collab attempts to distract from all the meta issues, I kneel before them.
>>575814220>>575814096hello /heals/
>>575814812It can also take out tanks and cannon towers with a hit to the vents, along with one-shotting anti-personnel turrets from any angle and hulks to the visor or vent.It's just a more versatile AT pistol compared to the Ultimatum, since you can dumbfire it at up to 200m.
>>575814723Most of the secondaries are good if you get out of the "my secondary kills bile titans" mindset. They help you stretch the ammo on your other guns, or add something that your primary lacks, like using the bushwacker for stagger or a medium pen secondary alongside a light pen primary.
better start learning swedish budyou've got two weeks
>>575814827It indeed can. Wait till you hear about light bouncing you fucking cripple. Leave your house someday.
>>575814702>AP4 primary that isn't gimmicky or has unique propertiesUhh what's the downside gonna be?
>>575814924Heal me
>>575814220>>575814924Taking turns on SoBtranny ass
JOEL better unleash Hulkmania 5.0 near Martale so we can appreciate the new warbond guns moar
>>575814220Are you here to serve?
>>575815017Sounds like it will just be a single-target Eruptor with better ergo and presumably no need to charge the handle between shots. Which I'm all for, personally.
>>575815017handles like shit even with ergo boost armorpoor ammo economyoverheat mechanic that makes the gun explode if you shoot too fast
>>575815017>armour passive gives ergoGee I wonder.
>>575815145Meant for >>575814924
>>575815161I think you're confusing hot-shot lasguns with plasma guns.
>>575815017Unbelievably shit ergo and ammo economy.
>>575815270>>575815145fuck off ryan
>>575814702>headshotting>none of the heads are destroyed>voteless torsos are AV0I'll cope with you guys but I won't delude myself
I should have farmed SC. Is there a better way than dropping H1 yet?
>>575814992>light penDo people really? In 2026?>>575815161>makes the gun explodeHotshots don't do this, at worst the energy pack gets smoking hot and just burns out quick
What was this all about? Or is it social media ARG bullshit again?
>>575815369join lobbies with chink names at d1with enough luck one of them will be the sugar daddy kind>>575815395it's foreshadowing for a 1:1 rehash of the first TCS>brose its safe :)>LMAO GOTTEM tcs mutated bugs, we gotta blow up the planet now
>>575815395Just a flavor announcement to set up for future events.
>>575815369Yeah, cheat table. Be the guinea pig to try it out after their anticheat patch and report back with results
>>575815369Just farm D1 Hive worlds. Preferably oil missions because most POIs spawn outside caves
>>575815017Its backpack-fed
>>575810075what went wrong with the frv?
>>575815582swedes wanted to sell it and community wanted it for free
>>575815562Are you retarded or blind? Actual question
>>575815653Yes
>>575815321Say thay to my face
seeing shit like this on twitter is funny as fuck, is there actual retards that thought this collab would have space marine shit???? delusional
>>5758148121 shot chargers ass and puts it on critical bleedout state1 shot Impaler head1 shot every turret vents1 shot hulk eye and war strider jointIts a VERY versatile secondary. You need to turn off homing mode to use it effectively.
>>575815717grandma hair
>>575815645ohhhh.
>Put in demo trooper>Colour it in 122 Cadian so the metal plates blend in with the rest of the armour making the bulk look unpleasant and fatty.Cool. Awesome.
>>575815736I certainly didn't want Space Marines. Though I do wish the Demo Trooper was Green Cadian rather than Blue (Urban) Cadian.
>>575815736People thought the Ouya would be able to play Skyrim
>>575815736I think you greatly underestimate how severly retarded this playerbase has become
>>575815582It was meant to be another warbond, then the community did another reviewbombing after the mech warbond and piles terrible AMA so AH turned the frv warbond into MO rewards in a desperate bid to win some goodwill backToo bad they also fucked that up by introducing fomo to MO rewards
>>575815815>blend in with the rest of the armourMaybe if you are blind.
>>575815736hahahhhahaha a NIGGER
I don't care about Warhammer in the slightest, will this patch have anything else of worth?
>>575815740You do want to turn it back on for gunships, though. I recommend rebinding the quick-mode-change button to something convenient.
>>575814992I want a secondary that compliments my primary, and possibly my support weapon. And don't need it to kill biletitans.But very rarely do any of the secondaries other than the pissile or the ultimatum actually compliment what I run as a primary and support. Unless I'm intentionally planning my build around my pistol or something.I'm missing some of the more 'top tier' pistols. (laser revolver and plasma one) so maybe thats why but I've really never found a point to pulling out the peacemaker instead of just reloading my primary weapon. Or to bring the senator to compliment my light pen primary or something.The damage output is so low despite the higher AP value.In the time it takes to hose 1 enemy to death with the redeemer I could have reloaded my gun and been ready to kill 5x that number.Meanwhile the pissile can swat away gunships if neither of my support or primaries can do that. The ultimatum can provide a backup option vs chargers/hulks/bile titans/warstriders, especially if I chose a primary and support that don't deal with those well. The grenade pistol instagibs the spewers in a decent radius.
>wanted support weapon focused armor for the longest time>it gets tied to the 40kbondJUST
>>575815992that'll be 15 bucks plus tip, goy
bohoho nigga
>>575815992armor looks pretty badass in this photo
>>575815992from impressions alone this doesnt shape up to be a dud like the gaylo warbond
How the FUCK is there still no transmog in this game?
>>575816187bacon apples
>>575814740>excited as fuck for the veto>feels like shit to use>has an ugly, outsourced model with low res texturessigh
>>575815992True grit?More like True Shit!
>>575816139It helps that at the very least, the Hot-Shot Marksman Rifle and the Meltagun should both be occupying unfilled weapon niches, while the armor passive is also very strong.
>>575816139Really, the only thing that Feet First needs in order to be top tier is to negate small amounts of impact damage to the legs, so that players can drop down larger heights and land on their feet without taking fall damage (as opposed to having to dive off to abuse the physics engine calculations).
>>575816329>ugly, outsourced model with low res texturesSeriously though, how did this ever get approved?
>>575815992Don't worry, they'll release a less good version of the armor in the next warbond
>>575816383It looks good though.
>>575816187it's so they can sell armor with combos of passives in the future. it's that simple man. why would you use peak physique instead of the one coming with the new guardsmen armor, for example? why would you want melee damage instead of faster support weapon reload speed? at best we will get armor repainting/LUTs, and MAYBE in that system you will be able to change the skin color on the python commando armors... idk
>>575815736Yeah, I get what you mean. The average retard thinks W40K is only Space Marine slop.
>>575816187They're terrified of touching the armor system as a whole outside of continuously bloating it. This sort of obligation scares the swede. They'll fold eventually, but the delivery will be halfassed at best.
Don't forget that the Imperial Guard, also known as the Emperor's Hammer, are the titular Warhammer 40k.
>>575813138I saw it and knew you would be here
>>575816653I blame the dawn of war games for giving them way more of a presence then they should have. Winter assault was just too good of an expansion, otherwise people would still be only into the muhreens
>>575816653Imperial guard only exists to die so the actual protags, the SPESS MEHREENS, can come in and save the day by choking gods to death
Doom status?
>>575815935Yes, this
>>575816842SEXOOOO
>>575816842can you fuck off already? your bit definitely overstayed its welcome
>>575816815>announcement for a warbond 2 weeks in advance, breaking the pattern of 1 week announcementthey're cooking something for next week, I can smell it
>>575816815this is their last hoorah and so far they have not fumbled it yet
Did this game get a meltagun before Darktide? I don't know if Skitarii finally added it haven't played.
>>575816815raped but still trying
>>575816815I'm having a blast playing the game
Why can't narrowhead understand that helldivers is a powerfantasy??? Instead they pre-nerfed the fun and replaced marine power armor with stupid grunt fantasy again
>>575816923Nah they're just lazy and inconsistent. Best case scenario is a gamescom announcement but they'll probably reveal they won't be there last second (as always)
>>575816937Yes, Skitarii expansions did not add meltaguns.
>>575816815>2.5 months since last warbond and patch dropIf the next update doesn't add all the shit they've been hyping up months ago it's gonna be fucking over
>>575817078>they delayed it to tide us over until gamescomi hate that you're probably rightat least the next patch will have some leaks for the next title update... maybe...
>>575817078they're at chinajoyI'd expect either another announcement or a deeper look into the 40k stuff
uh ohmelta
>>575815017>>575815349They're probably just adding custom overpen properties that they can use for it and future guns.
>>575816920Two more weeks
Nobody cares about stupid gLazer sniper rifle, shallowhead needs to listen to the community and give us the powerfantasy WE DESERVE!!!
Can someone get this nerffag out of here?
>>575817532People will make fun of the "millions of Call of Duty players" line, but this is exactly what they were talking about.
>>575816815a trve return to form by AH
Actually amazed there wasn't a power sword. Or any kind of melee weapon.>>575812526It looks so bad lmao
>xe stopped posting literallywhos from steam reviews and now switched xer attention to literal twitter screencaps of literallywhosGenuinely mindbroken faggot
>>575817585you will read his cherry-picked posts and you will be happy
>>575817791It's his habits carrying over from /v/, give him a break.
>nerftrannies, bufftroons and hopesissies itt
>>575817791Problem?
>capeshitevery day this general sinks lower
>>575817585>>575817791>>575817846>look how they recoilthese are hilarious>>575817532keep it up king
>>575817791you are dumb as a fucking brick. the faggot is rotating his bait so it doesnt get stale, you see it and cant recognise it for what it is.
>>575809554New warbond looks fine I guess. I would have preferred it to be Krieg Artillery focused.
>>575818058Are you seriously calling anyone else retarded after what you've just said, you subhuman mongoloid?
When is this game getting more CQC?
If the Meltamine is Demo 50 I will take it to bots every time.
>>575812987>Stalwart>MMG>HMG>AMR>Autocannon>Railgun>De-Escalator>Recoilless Rifle>All with this new 40K armor
>>575818472retard
>>575818472Why would it be 50 demo force?
>make 40k warbond>dont use the literal troops whose whole schtick dropping into combatwhy are you like this arrowhead?
>>575818472Surely AH learned their lesson and will never again release anything with 50 demoforce that isn't a red or blue stratagem
>>575818543The Lure Mine is AP5 with 1000 damage (D30), the Giga Grenade is AP5 with 2000 damage (D40), and the Thermite is AP7 with 2000 damage (D30). How else do you make the Meltamine worth taking without giving it like 4000 damage?
>>575818324I want real punching
What's wrong with the Melta?
>>575818710you make it a giga grenade that's deployable
>Halo is the one fucking Warbond that got cucked out of a support weapon despite the fucking iconic power weapon arsenal the series had>No sniper rifle>No SPNKr>No Spartan Laser>Fucking nothing
>>575818547GW doesn't sell those models anymore. AH got forced into making cadiaslop.
>>575818784Unless you give the player more of them, that's just a worse giga grenade because the throw distance for mines is very, very short.
>>575818547The guard is already obscure to your average slophammer tertiary, you think they gonna basedjack at elysian drop troops?
>no imperator class titan stratagememptyhead just can't stop fumbling the bag
>>5758188483 uses vs 2thereyour demo 50 idea is so retardedly outlandish i have no issues believing that you're a gayhammer tourist
WH40k is so fucking cringe and childish
>>575818946>Says the man playing a game where le heckin super gets thrown around like confetti
This general belongs to Warhammer 40k fans now. Kneel
>>575818547More of a GW problemEverything that isn’t a krieger or cadian has been abandoned, though they did post steel legion concepts after everyone rightfully called them retarded for not featuring them on the new Armageddon shit
>>575818946That has always been the point
Nothing in that warbond looked exciting unless you are some 40k autist. >MeltagunLaser cannon>Bolt pistolSenator>Melta minesAnti tank mines>Laser rifleLaser rifle
>>575819023>Kneelso we can look into your eyes? :^)
>>575818942Mines are notoriously unreliable, anon. You can't just take the equivalent grenade and make it a mine, because it loses all the versatility of a grenade and gets almost nothing in return.
>>575816815omg it's the hidden krieg set!
>>575813909>Hey we have this thing that launches grenades what should we call it?>grenade launcher
>>575819130>I'm a gigaretard, ergo the only way of making a new deployable useful is letting it kill stratagem jammers
>>575810915imperial guard meltas do
>>575819207Well I did say the alternative was giving it significantly more damage/penetration and a smaller blast radius.
>>575818995It feels like they've removed most of the ragdoll because people couldn't handle it. I think people have some kind of hang-up about getting ragdolled. They love to blame it for all of their deaths, even if they only get ragdolled because they did something stupid, like stand in front of a warstrider. Either that, or they have a borderline irrational hatred for it, complaining even when they get knocked over for less than a second and nothing bad actually happens to them.
>>575819196>I want to set these guys over there on fire>if only I had some sort of weapon that threw flames
>>575819305super gets throw aroundthe word superyou fucking retard
>>575819305Players in general hate loss-of-control effects. It's part of the reason people hated fighting Illuminate in HD1, because they'd occasionally scramble your movement controls.
>>575819305People inherently do not like the feeling of control over their character being robbed from them, it creates the sensation they may as well walk away from the input.
>I have this sharp metal stick that stabs and slices people, what should we call it?>Slicey-Stabby Stick
>>575819541top of the morn to you as well guvnagod save the queen
he wonned
>>575819541nobody ever said the english are clever
>>575809554what's that gun on the left? another flamie?
What will you do with meltamine, use it against a single hulk or suicide attack on factory strider?
>>575818846>In the 41st millennium there is only cadians and ultramarines I want off this gay Terra
>>575816187something milsim something media literacy don't be a uncratful chud anon
>>575818923where's my VIRUS BOMB stratagem at arrowhead??? huh?????
>>575819615It will be an unmodifiable scope, but at least it looks like a decent scope.
meltagun>takes a full mag to kill a tank/hulk/charger>comes with 3 magsenjoy
Lasrifle is ap3 bare minimum. Really hope its ap4 like that one redditor said.
>>575819754Can meltaguns explode like plasmaguns?
>>575819679Meltagun. Basically a short-range anti-tank laser cannon.>>575819685I'm trying to figure out how they don't just make it a worse Giga Grenade or Thermite.
>>575819305>I think people have some kind of hang-up about losing control over their character and getting stunlocked (and also getting stuck under terrain)No shit man
Which units are the role models for the Warhammer armours?
Wish I took advantage of the armor passive bug I could be reloadmaxxed primary and secondary all the time
>guccy sliper will now spam lietral who's twitters seething about not getting space marine armorscan we rape that nigger next
I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed.Also, I have Cadia fatigue.
>>575819361What? >>575819434>>575819441I understand that, but I think it really is something you can get over. I don't think it's as black-and-white as "losing control is bad", especially when ragdoll is something that you can manage. A lot of the things people complained about, like dying to a chest injury because you can't stim, really feel worse than they are. >>575819890I don't think it's that simple. People complain way less about things like getting pinned in Deep Rock Galactic. I think it really comes down to how you choose to feel about it.
>I have protagonist fatigue
>>575819360>Here's your flammenwerfer bro!
>>575820050CADIA STANDS
>>575819905
Meltamine will have 50 demo force but it can only be triggered by an enemy vehicle, if you try to set it off with explosives or gun fire it simply breaks without explodingYou also get 1 maximum, and it does not benefit from the armor perk that gives you more throwables
Lobby doko?
>>575820109>What?the original post>>Says the man playing a game where le heckin super gets thrown around like confettithe word "super" gets thrown around like confettino one's talking about ragdollyou fucking cretin
>>575812987>>575818526Siege Ready will probably still be better for support weapons without backpacks simply because more ammo is better than faster reload for vast majority of them.It will be better on RR and other backpack stuff though.
This shot kek.Dunno why I expected it to have half the range. A flamethrower type weapon that can kill bot heavies quick is a fun niche
>>575820050Same. The only way Cadians are somewhat interesting is when they are in a massive army. The sea of green and all the vehicles and artillery. 1-4 Cadians together (like they will be in helldivers) are just less interesting ARMY MEN.
>>575819839No, meltas are a lot more stable than plasma guns. I mean it's basically an oversized blowtorch on steroids.
>>575812323>Is this hot shot slot shooting yellow bullets or is it a true laser blaster like the Talonanon...I don't know how to tell you this but the talon also fires bullets
>>575820285I believe all of this EXCEPT the 50 demo force. They would never risk it.
>>575820414I want to try this but my car would knick the legs and we all get sent to space
does anyone have that site that have enemie armor values i want to see something but google is being retarde and i can't find it
>>575820285making things up to get mad: the post
>>575820363Please use full sentences next time. I hope you can see how that would be misinterpreted as being about ragdoll, especially with the grammar you use.
>>575820528yeah hahaha, AH would never do retarded balancing haha
>>575820414I will probably use it simply because it looks like a really fun sustained anti-tank weapon that doesn't waste my jump pack slot.
>>575820458AIEEEEEEEE I've been bamboozled!Well fine just the Trident then, as long as it doesn't feel like the shit that is the Sickle and Dickle
>>575820639Name one good game that doesn't have retarded balancing.
>>575820542I'm not even the original poster, you just defaulted into being a victim crying about ragdoll in a completely unrelated discussionPlease work on your reading comprehension you fucking 40 iq brownoid
>Meltagun>Aims at Tank main vent>1500 AP4 100% durable>Kills it in 3 secondsSo 500 DPS AT5 at the minimal to deal that amount of damage in the timeframe
>>575820285I want to skin this retard's face off and then grind his skull against the pavement.
>>575818818Hell, I would have settled for a needler. At least it'd be different
>no fucking lobbies>have to hostCoin flip decides faction, no squids though.steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244850030981/76561198120804312v
>>575820639Give me 3 examples that are as egregious as what you came up with
>>575815321jeettalian paki ryan hasnt been here since 2024, it's time to let go, the listed ones are gone.
>>575820682this one is on GW. you can always rely on them to choose the lamest and gayest option and they've been on a crusade over the last 2 years to make sure all lasguns in media are depicted firing fake laser bullets instead of the based and kino pulsed beams theyv'e been shown firing in video games since 2004
>>575820259You'll be fighting over Karlia when the squids try to void it in two weeks
>>575820109I don't think its "black and white" to say people hate ragdolling beccause they hate losing control (agency) of their character. The difference between getting pinned and getting Ragdolled is that getting pinned is annoying but interactive (you can prevent it, and a teammate can help you up so it doesn't last long), but with ragdolling you are the games bitch until it decides you get up.
>>575820707Nah.
>>575820262I see. Helldivers armour looks kinda flat compared to those figurines.
>>575820710You only deal 65% damage if you hit the same armor penetration right? Its either doing giga amount of DPS as heavy pen or going as you saysDefinitely AT1 at the minimum
disappointed that we didn't get a mortar emplacement or a plasma grenade, but also thankful that we didn't get another meme melee weapon
>>575820736 the needler is my favorite weapon in any game. That would have made the whole warbond for me. As it stands I skipped the halo warbond because the armor looks surprisingly weird in helldivers, the perks are shit, and none of the guns are even C Tier.
>>5758207423/4
Only thing I'm disappointed about is not getting a full-sized boltgun. Otherwise it's about what I excepted. I need my fucking Darktide bolter in another game, it's so fucking chunky, it sounds so good.
>>575820109>People complain way less about things like getting pinned in Deep Rock Galactic.desu that's because only a couple of enemies can pin you, and there's an ability that allows you to free yourself as well.With HD2 ragdolling, you had a lot of enemies who could not only do it, but repeatedly chain you into it.
>>575809554are those goggles on the right guy's head?>>575809947that's much nicer! I get that the "in-universe" version is what we're getting, but pilestedt smoked too much surströmming and pushed out retarded twins
>Helldivers 2 is getting a lore accurate Melta Rifle before Space Marine 2Comical.
>>575820710I hope so AP5 would let you do suicidal charges at Hive Lords
>AT1 Short range laser cannonSo its only viable on bugs and squids again
>Wanted a laser marksman rifle ala talon>Get this instead >Tied to the shitty 40k bond so no customization of levelingREEEEE
>>575820016only after Yuuka gives me a thigh job
>>5758207423/4 join now
>>575820414Yeah these are AP4 at most.
I'm going to play devils advocate and say that this armor perk isn't going to be as busted as everyone thinks it will be.1. +20 ergo is nice, but is still less than what Peak Physique offers (+30 ergo). Whereas Peak Physique is basically just "You pay the armor tax to not have to worry about handling anymore," this one seems more akin to "Your handling is improved but you'll still feel it with the worst weapons." I imagine that guns with absolutely atrocious handling like the DCS, Eruptor, HMG and Maxigun will still feel somewhat sluggish afterward, but the ones that are more borderline like the Dominator, Variable, One-Two and AMR would feel passable. For most, the real perk will probably be improved ergo without the bare arms.2. 30% faster support weapon reload sounds really good on paper, but people are forgetting that this doesn't apply to primary or secondary weapons, and you don't get 20% extra ammo. So this perk is closer to being a variant of Reinforced Epaulettes than to Siege-Ready; your primary is still going to reload at normal speed, and you still have to watch your ammo. Plus, how many of you have actually felt the difference from the Payroll Management System upgrade, which gives support weapons 10% faster reload? My guess is not many. And on top of it all, remember that some of the slowest-reloading support weapons in the game already got reload speed buffs like the Autocannon and De-Escalator, so they're not going to benefit as much from this perk.All that being said, I'm looking forward to seeing how the HMG and Epoch perform with this armor. Improving the HMG's stationary reload and terrible ergo might just be what it needs, and everyone's always bitched and whined about the Epoch's long reload given that it only gets three shots per charge. I guess the Airburst is also going to majorly benefit from this since it doesn't have staged reloads.
FINALLY, the promised Laser Rifle and maybe even the first true primary sniper rifle (PLAS ACCELERATOR doesn't count because it's dogshit). This shit makes the 1% sniper playerbase so happy. Rest of the warbond looks dogshit though, especially the armor.
>>575820710So AT version of Cremator without backpack and only doing single line piercing?Its gonna be A tier on spore bugs
>>575820109>People complain way less about things like getting pinned in Deep Rock GalacticPeople never complained about hunters/smokers/jockeys, or getting encircled by a swarm of the infected in l4d. You dying to a hunter felt fair, because it was a punishment for either running away from your team or for poor teamwork. You got pinned by a charger -> you get slammed -> your teammate either kills him or stuns him -> you immediately regain control of your character. You know what, when and how it will ragdoll you. You know that standing on a ledge and getting hit by a charger will instakill both of you after you'd hit the ground.Ragdolling and dying while ragdolled in this swigger piece of shit feels infuriating because you never know when, what and how will ragdoll you + buggy physics sending you into the stratosphere and while having a 50/50 chance to either kill you on landing or leaving you unscathed + getting ragdolled through cover + getting stuck in a pile of debris after tanking a karateborg kick to the face.
>>575821695wrong
>>575821670thats a man
>>575821695It killed tank main vent in 2-3 seconds ish so either it does giga DPS heavy pen or AT5
>only 1300 SC in the bankguess I'll have to play the game now
>>575821748Support weapons reloading 30% faster is massive, there's no way you can possibly understate this isn't huge. Everybody is aware it doesn't impact your primary or secondary, but one of the biggest grievances of support weapons is getting cucked out of your reload during heated moments.Staged reload weapons especially are going to see massive benefits from a 30% reload speed increase.
>>575820742fvll
>AC with the new passive
Now that I think about it, why don't they just give the car warbond for free instead of dragging it with MOs? It will make them good publicity + no one is gonna complain about getting a warbond for free.
>>575820948I think ragdolling is more interactive than you give it credit, it's just that the interactivity comes from managing the enemies that can ragdoll you. >>575821321The chain ragdolling (before the automaton nerf) wasn't as bad as people say it was. It's really the closet the game can get to a pin-type mechanic. A more direct "pin" really wouldn't work because of the low player health. A lot of the complaints came from people that would get chain ragdolled while their teammates didn't bother helping them. The game really should be frustrating in that situation, because it encourages you to work as a team. >>575821889The things that ragdoll you in this game are fairly predictable. The main problem seems to be that ragdolling gives you a decent chance of survival, which only looks frustrating from a very negative perspective. I honestly think people would complain less if a lot of the stuff that ragdolled you just killed you instead.
>>575822251sweden
>>575821748Ergo is really diminishing returns. You feel it if a weapon is really low like <30. Once you're past that especially 40-50 and up the difference is marginal. 20 extra points is enough.
>HMG with the new passive
>>575822187RC crossover when?
>>575821748Tbf that 10% reload increase is actually gonna be 40% with that armor
>>575822476You are getting the HD at home but made by chinks instead
Completely raped front. They barely have any sectors left
>>575822251They would've to make new assets for MO rewards. Cannibalizing the FRV warbond is way easier for the lazy swede.
>Cadia slop
>>575818547So do space marines. They even have drop pods. Helldivers don't use jetpacks to drop
>>575822739>They would've to make new assets for MO rewardsor they could've just used one of many forgotten slop assets like the six gorillion recolors of the same armors i.e the scratched jin roh slop or the dirty b01or the simple swap stratagems like the incendiary gl or stalwart wall
>>575820710I wonder what its drawback is going to be. The screenshot as per >>575820414 looks like it's going to beat the Flamethrower in terms of range but not b e quite as far-reaching as the Cremator. I guess none of the footage seems to show it actually setting targets on fire, so it's probably going to be more akin to a range-limited Laser Cannon that can't ignite targets. But given the seemingly high durable damage, that's probably going to be more than good enough.I'm unfamiliar with the Warhammer lore, do these things use ammo or would they use the overheat mechanic?
just end it doc. im so fucking tired
>>575822417hmg needs fortified recoil reduction thoughnot ergo
>>575822681And it would be extremely easy to break them even further, taking 2 easy planets would Isolate another 2.
>>575822739Literally make new camos or armor recolors and everyone would clap. Hell, they could even add those Christmas prototype stratagems as a reward instead of being forgotten forever
>>575822880AP6, 500 DPS, 15m range, and it will ignite targets.Downside is probably that it does actually use ammo, unlike the laser cannon.
>>575823135Orbital Incendiary Gatling, my beloved...
>>575823070That's only on paper. In practice, Charon has a 3.5% decay rate and Charbal has a Megafactory so nobody's going to want to isolate it because it would again mean removing content. Matar Bay has two megacities and is at 2% effective decay, while Meissa has 2% decay and Cyborgs.
>>575811492Hotshot isn't tied to the backpack.It is a setting on the rifle itself to use more charge from the battery.Almost any lasgun can be turned to hotshot mode but doing so means you have dramatically less shots per battery.The backpack battery pack is there to so they have more than a few shots.
>>57582174820 handling is a TON. It does indeed essentially make it so you don't have to care about it. It puts any gun in the 'enough' territory. 10 handling on small mag on Hyena makes or breaks the gun for most people.Support weapons are the ones that are more likely to have slow, often and STATIONARY reloads, so increasing the speed of these is more important than primaries. We can't tell the difference with Payroll Management because we unlocked it like 2+ years ago no one remembers how it was before. And it was a smaller passive. All support weapons that reload will benefit, instant reload is better than short reload. For RR, Spear, Speargun it's 30% increased ROF.So basically you are a dumb fucking nigger.
>>575822476neverinstead you'll get an one way collab with the new chink gacha hd2 copy
>>575823612Also staged reloads. Being able to progress stages faster is big if you get interrupted.
>>575823529>tfw being able to use the Orbital Incendiary Gatling on spore bugsFUND IT
>>575809554Warhammer is such slop.
>>575824064Slop has lost all meaning and people just apply it to things they don't like nowadays
>>575824234No. Warhammer is slop.
>>575824269explain
>>575824269Your post is slop
Our mighty fallenBegotten powerShoulder to shoulderNever surrender
>>575824269no you dumb faggot, warhammer has far too much autistic lore and detail for it be slop by definition
>>575811162>that sack of shit can't reliably kill hulksskill issue
>>575824560Bait or mental retardation?
Why isn't there a new action on the DSS that lets us use those buffed up experimental Stratagems? Would give us a reason to use super samples or something
>>575822681absolute 0 foresight. thinning bot front, which just had the bots "big weapon" taken out for story validity, is opening room for squid front enlargement
>zigger pedoeyyyikes!
god I miss bot moonkino
>>575824878Oh, that would be neat. May have a bunch of different modifiers that can be applied to base strategems and randomly generate one.
>>575822251They get way more long-term engagement if they dripfeed it. Dropping it all at once would only bump up the numbers for a week or two.Plus, if the engagement isn't high enough (it won't be), they can go "haha, see, you didn't ACTUALLY want MO rewards so we won't do them anymore".
>>575824536>using medic armor crutchshitter detected
>>575824536>medic armor>no stim pistolfaggot
>>575809554>Karskin>not Tempestus ScionsI'm disappointed, but not surprised.
what stratagems are underutilized?
Will it be a bigger or smaller red flag compared to Rookie and Assault Infantry?
>>575822954>max rpm>hold left click>let recoil climb to the apex>drag down>???>perfect accuracy
>>575825246The shit ones like airburst and rocket pods. Yes, they are still worthless even after the buff because eagle airstrike and 500kg exist and dont miss
>>575824414>company that has sold it's soul and destroyed every little part of it's community and good will to become a megacorp that caters to autistic normie losers who still think deth metal and world of warcraft are the peak of civilizationYup. It's slop.
>>575825374Considering the fact that most halo and killzone fans are 30+ year olds who actually played those games and most warhammer "fans" are retarded larpers? Might be the biggest red flag in the game desu.
>2 more weeks without contentsurely AH have been working on those promises they made a few month back right guys
slopzone? kickhalo? kick40k? kicksleeveless armour and your skin is the colour of shit? kick
>>575825427Come on son. You know the HMG is personal choice between ergo and recoil. I think recoil significantly better but that's how I like it. Some dysgenic freaks find it hard to turn around so ergo is for them.
>>575825769Yeah, the promise to take an extended holiday and do nothing
>>575825675dawn of war and space marine are how old you dishonest demented attention whore?
>>575825576Capitalism truly is the root of all of the world's evils.
>>575825675No it makes perfect sense. Helldivers has mass appeal to fans of those IPs and in terms of Halo and Killzone those fans are refugees. It makes perfect sense to have an exciting coop game for boomers with aging reflexes.
>40k and illuminate major update in two weeksOkay
>>575825952And yet... i consoom
>>575825983is there even anyone left that gives a fuck about squids?
>>575825946>Yeah, I played DoW and SM back in the early 2000s. I'm basically a true veteran of 40k.dishonest demented attention whore talking
>bot MO defenses>new invasions as soon as one is finished>bug MO defenses >just give them free time to take a whole other planet LMAOWhat causes this?
>>575826175Me. I like to fight every faction.
>>575810041Fire only has the most variation because it's the only status effect that somewhat works.
I've been playing Imperial Guard since 2009. I have a physical IG army, I have also been playing helldivers since the day of release. This is my take on the collab bond:>hotshot lasgun:The prototypical lasgun is a cross between a battle rifle and a marksman rifle. They are not assault rifles with high rates of fire (yes variations and lascarbines exist but again we're talking about the most common kind of lasgun), and they certainly do not function like helldiver heat based weapons with infinite ammo, they have power packs that have limited number of shots in combat conditions. Yes those power packs are rechargeable but they require a charging station, to be left out in the sun for a long period of time, or to be thrown into a fire.On tabletop they have "rapid fire" which is described as "Rapid fire weapons are capable of long-ranged precision shots or controlled bursts at nearby targets.". Mechanically that means at maximum range they fire 1 shot under half maximum range they fire 2 shots. This is in contrast to an Autogun (the 40k equivalent of a ballistic assault rifle) which is stated identically to a lasgun other than that they have 2 attacks all the time instead of 1, but no "rapid fire" tag.A "hot shot" lasgun actually has some capability of penetrating armour but it comes at the cost of increased power pack drain. In 5th edition under the old AP system they had AP3, which for warhammer meant completely ignoring the saves of space marine power armour. In the new AP system they do AP -1 which turns a space marines armour save from a 66% chance to save to a 50% chance. Now, while hotshot lasguns don't have any higher strength than normal lasguns, because helldivers is a videogame with weapon categories that have shared traits I'm going to guess they are going to up the damage as well as the penetration if this lasgun is going in the marksman rifle categoryExpect 400 to 550 RPM, 100 to 130 damage, medium penetration, and 25 to 50 shots per mag
>>575826764>bolt pistolThis is going to be the most controversial and the hardest for secondaries and tertiaries to accept. boltguns traditionally have merely acceptable armour penetration ability, not exceptional, and while they do have explosive rounds those rounds are designed to explode inside of the target, not on its surface, to increase post penetration damage. This bursting charge is not big enough to cause catastrophic structural damage or function as an anti-horde weapon. Under the old AP system they had AP5 which mean they completely ignored imperial guard flak armour, which is the equivalent of AV2 in helldivers. under the new system they have AP-, which means they do not modify armour saves at all. Yes, under the new system the boltpistol is considered to be just as bad at penetrating armour as a lasgun which was infamously stopped by the old "t-shirt save" of 6+. But that's stupid so we're using the old system. If Space marine armour gives a 3+ save then a bolt pistol has 2 levels of penetration worse than the protection space marine armour can provide. In helldivers space marine armour is AT MINIMUM AV4, but more likely AV5 since it is made of the same material that tank armour is made from in 40k and space marine armour is able to shrug off even autocannon fire.That puts the bolt pistol at either AP2 if we're going off AV4 equivalent, or AP3 if we're going off AV5 equivalent, which I think is the preferred option here when you consider flak armour is AV2 equivalent while being a 5+ save in warhammer, which the bolt pistol could ignore completely.Expect 120ish RPM, very high recoil, 250 to 300 damage, medium penetration (not heavy as much as some want it to be), and here's the controversial part: no secondary explosion, but instead a very high durable damage ratio of 66 to 80%...or AH will cave and give it a 100 damage AP3 DF20 1-3 meters secondary explosion and just a 33 to 50% durable damage ratio.
>>575826930>meltagunI am surprised they actually managed to depict this one accurately. Video games have long struggled to show how meltaguns actually work, with Space Marine making them into energy shotguns. They are actually overcharged blowtorches that use nuclear fusion to generation the heat for their cutting beam. Melta weapons have short range and do double damage under half range. They also had AP1 in the old system when the lowest armour save you could possibly get was a 2+ save. That AP1 meant when rolling on the vehicle damage chart you would add TWO to the roll, meaning a melta weapon had a 66% chance to destroy a vehicle in a single hit instead of only a 33% chance that other non AP1 weapons had. They also use fuel canisters liek flamethrowers, not heatsinks like the laser cannonExpect a flamethrower like canister ammo tank with 6 to 8 seconds of firing time, 600 to 800 DPS with 100% or near 100% durable damage ratio, a maximum range of 25 to 30 meters, extremely aggressive damage falloff, and AP5 at minimum but more realistically AP7.>melta mine:it's a throwable AT mine, it'll probably functionally identically
>>575826764>>575826930>>575827097NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!
>>575827097If your predictions for the meltagun are correct, I think it will struggle for relevance when The Cremator can already kill all the heavy bugs and Automatons are better dealt with at range. Maybe it will be good when paired with something else, but I can't think of what.
any more chinese leaks itt???
Imagine literally sitting around with this pre-written post waiting days just so when the devs post the warbond you can first-post and take part in the universe's most lurid bootlickingArrowhead's cock must taste delicious for these shills.
>>575826387What’s the most fun way to fight squids?
>>575827568Praising something that isn't out and complaining about something that isn't out are essentially identical behaviors.
>>575827416comapred to the cremator the meltagun won't take up a backpack at least, and the melta will kill heavies significantly faster
>>575826930Didn’t read
>>575825374War Hammer fags are the worst bar none. If I could erase one franchise from existence it would be Warhammer. Full of autistic faggots and larpers
>>575827713Yeah, but if it kills heavies that quickly I expect it to have poor ammo economy. I don't see a world where the meltagun is better against bug hordes than the laser cannon. It will definitely be usable, maybe even good, but The Cremator is so powerful against bugs that anything would struggle to compare. I guess that does make the comparison a little pointless, anyway. Most of the weapons in this game, even the bad ones, are completely serviceable on D10.
Helldivers the kinda guys to slap the top of doorways upon entering
>>575816542Space Marines ruin 40k.
>Hotshot las>Bolt pistola>Meltagun>Melta mineI'm excited
>>575826175I do. I'm John Squiddiver.
>>575826764>hotshot lasgun>Expect 400 to 550 RPM, 100 to 130 damage, medium penetration, and 25 to 50 shots per maghope is enough damage to one tap a devastator head stats look decent enough i guess>bolt pistol>Expect 120ish RPM, very high recoil, 250 to 300 damage, medium penetration (not heavy as much as some want it to be), and here's the controversial part: no secondary explosion, but instead a very high durable damage ratio of 66 to 80%knowing AH they will go this round but im really hoping for a senator level of high pen>meltagun>Expect a flamethrower like canister ammo tank with 6 to 8 seconds of firing time, 600 to 800 DPS with 100% or near 100% durable damage ratio, a maximum range of 25 to 30 meters, extremely aggressive damage falloff, and AP5 at minimum but more realistically AP7.very good anti tank weapon if you are correct you can see it melt a annihilator tank and a factorie strider in the trailer
>>575827701Taking a neutral stance is natural. But considering past history it's not unacceptable for someone to be cautious or even cynical.However spreading your cheeks for Devman is peak subhuman behavior.
>>575816815The game is still great.
>>575819071The meltamines are throwables, that puts them above anti-tank mines.
>>575827667Flamer or lmg imo. Of those two, lmg is my favorite.
Microtransaction shit isn't content. Fucking goyslop consumerism.
>helldivers mobilize 2.0 has been dataminedyou ready for that cash-only DLC I warned you about?
>>575828503faaaaaaaaaakedie frognigger
>no elysian drop troops>no lasgun>no chainsword>no plasmagun>it's all goys wokeslop TABLETOP ACCURATE shit despite not being in 40kwhy should I care again?
>HMG>0 (zero) ergos>with WH40K it will get 20it will still be shit tier beyond controllableHMG bros will never recover
>>575828503I wonder what it will actually be, instead of this giddy doomposting.
I require your most recent proofs
>>575827701very much true fuck hopecucks and doomsissies>>575828331also very much true but AH is capable of giving us kino and overral good tools look at breaching hammer portable hellbomb cremator and the giga nade
>>575828626Chain sword is already in game
>>575828503source or it didnt happen
post a source or shut the fuck up frognigger
>las cannon but close range and likely limited ammo, so you just know they're going to pump the damage numbers>backpackless>meltagun has a very real chance at being one of the strongest support weapons in helldivers 2what the fuck
>>575828647>takes supply pack, kills everything and with wh40k reloads so fast that it doesn't matteroh nyooo i'm never recovering
>>575828626>no lasgunuhhhhhh
>>575828841>>575828787>>575828689There is none. I made it up.
>>575828503>didn't post a sourcefake and gay like you'are mom
>>575828926It came to me in a dream...
>it’s a cadia warbond>no lasgun >no boltgunWho is this for exactly? They went ultra vanilla mass appeal but didn’t include the ultra vanilla guns.
>>575828604>>575828787>>575828926>>575828940
>>575829134A hotshot las 100% counts as a lasgun. Not boltgun is definitely a miss though.
niggas really already complaining preemptively about the lack of customization on the lasgun like that has stopped the talon from being as powerful as it is
>>575828926You will be raped in the next Op
>>575814702this redditor is fucking insane
>>575829134>lasgunwe already have one>boltgunwe already have onethe real problem with this warbond is that they gave us the shitty camo variant of guardsman armor instead of just plain olive drabI'm getting darktide flashbacks of all of their paid cosmetics having dogshit camo patterns so you have to buy them twice
>>575829189>Liberator Carbine but free???
>>575829189Hmmmmm, light AR is perfect for pilots.Incoming medium and heavy exosuits?! Hell yeah!
>>575829189wow so true
>>575829189Free 'bond or dud
>>575829573>>575829642>freelol
>>575829346No I won’t.
>>575828292>hope is enough damage to one tap a devastator head stats look decent enough i guessI think it will. I'm probably pretty under with my damage estimations since my tabletop mechanics a lasgun only has a 50/50 shot at killing a regular human sized/toughness target and a hotshot lasgun has the same strength as a normal lasgun. realistically for helldivers it'll be probably closer to 140 to 200 damage>>575828090on further thought you can easily justify the meltagun doing fire element damage, which large enemies take extra damage from so it might be even stronger in practice
>>575828626>>575829134>no lasgunThis is a lasgun.
>>575829189Are you sure this isn't the Lib Carbine before they decided to put it inside the Viper Commando warbond?
I had a dream last night where I was riding a train and then when I got off there were all these homeless people there. The weird thing is I haven’t rode on a train since I was 5
>>575829853I was in this anon's dream, he got thrown off the train for not having a ticket.
>>575826930>space marine armour is able to shrug off even autocannon fireNo it's not, you fucking retard. This tells me that I can ignore the rest of your post as the ramblings of a LARPer.
>>575829189If this is real, I wonder if it will just be a bunch of stronger versions of the base guns given out for free. A lot of what Arrowhead does makes sense if you think about them trying to manage the expectations of players that want the game to be harder and players that want the weapons to be stronger. So far, they've had to buff weapons in a way that could frustrate players that don't want their weapons buffed. Doing this would give them two different classes of weapon that could be balanced separately. It seems like a drastic solution, it's also an almost irreconcilable problem. Arrowhead, quite evidently, also don't like the buffs. This might be a way for them to buff weapons without removing the ability to use their old, weaker, versions. That might relieve some of the tension between their vision of the game and the desires for stronger weapons. They would be able to make certain weapons even stronger without compromising the base version of the gun.
>>575828647and peak physique only adds 30. 30 makes the HMG more than usable and while ergonomics might not be linear and it will be noticeably more sluggish than peak physique a +20 improvement will still be massive
>>575829995warhammer 40k autocannon is AP4 in the old system and AP-1 in the new system, the same level as a hot shot lasgun. space marine armour save is 3+. space marine armour gets its full save in the old system and a 50% chance to save in the new system, so yes, space marine armour absolutely can and does shrug off autocannon fire.
>>575829853Never had more of a reason to tell a nigga to go play Denshattack.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q8QppAQA3M
>>575830297I mean kind of but a Str 9, AP -1, dmg 3 rapid fire autocannon is a beast of a medium infantry killer and shreds through space marines so it feels kind of misleading.
>>575830527when it penetrates it shreds through them, but strength and AP are different beasts.
>>575826930>designed to explode inside of the target, not on its surface,so every dork on here for the past week that's been saying "it won't be a sidearm jar-5, it'll have to be explosive" has been wrong? feels good to be validated
>>575829189Nigga that's just the old version of Libcarbine that was in the files on fucking game release alongside Adjudicator, Justice (rip) and Truth Whisperer. It was called that. It looked like this. The Roblox faggot is fishing for attention.https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/03/22/here-are-eight-unreleased-helldivers-2-weapons-and-their-stats-and-traits/There's literally a FORBES article from 2024 with it in it.
>no krieg whatsoeverExpected, but still disappointing.
>>575830609Yeah, just saying "shrugs off" gives the impression of someone having an easy time of it. Small semantics quibble, not very important. >>575830829We have Krieg at home.
>>575820414>deflectionohh 40k trannies!
>>575829189Prototype liberator carbine that was found long fucking time ago. You are retarded.
>>575830789it could go either way honestly. the autocannon uses the same style of APHE bursting charge shells but it still has an external explosion on hit as well as having a stupidly high durable damage ratio. It used to have 100%, even, before its normal damage got buffed. Though that explosion probably only exists so it could blow up spawners, not so it could act as a crowd control weapon.
>MO barely started>buGODs already won
Tanto when?Pyro when?Paragon when?
>>575831179i mean the jar-5 clearly states in the description that it has the internal explosion which would be almost a 1:1 of the bolt pistol from the description in >>575826930. not to say AH wouldn't stray from that for gameplay reasons, but at this point i feel like they would rather take the behavior of the jar-5 round and just make it into a sidearm similar to how they did the purifier/loyalist
>>575826764>or to be thrown into a fireif they did make that work(which they wont) firemains would be op is fuckimagine a cremator with a gun that recherche everytime you set yourself on fire WITH heavy fire resist armorunstoppable
>>575828747You realize that literally all of gaming is laughing at you for simping for literal pay2win>inb4 this dumb 14y/o nigger spends the next thousand posts in cope and semantics
>>575832412its not p2w
>ugly armor made by outsourced jeet in a week>plastic looking guns>cadiaslop title>a shitty minethat will be 1500sc, goyimDarktide wins again
>>575812890>40k seems really lameFtfy
>>575832620if only darktides baseline gameplay wasn't shitfor all its issues HD2 still dabs hard on dorktide
>>575832620they do look good though.
>>575813173Says the faggot pushing street shitter terminology. Helldivers 2
>>575813286>Will get my own Jane soon.Can't wait to jar her.
>>575832412>helldivers 2>p2w>pay>he didn't cheat a mountain of SC back in the day
>swiggers losing to modders AGAIN
>>575833098The lack of armor plate layering and edge highlights is REALLY noticeable here.
THIS is the warbond that /hdg/ was hyping up for months?
>>575833531Has anyone really had any hope for this? Both the KZ and the ODST warbond are shit, why should the 40k one be good?
Sorry squiggers, but Joel has decided that you are the new izzat farm. Your defenses will continue to fucked over and forced to lose. Sucks to be you.
>>575833649at least the armors looked cool in thosethis smooth plastic slop on the other hand
>>575833649Killzone is peak kino.Best in slot player title.The body armour and cape look cool.The two ballistic guns are fast fire fun and the other two weapons are unique and also quite fun.Halo is trash though.
>>575833098>>575833478the only thing i'll give AH is that the modders textures look extremely "we tried to make it look like painted models" which is admirable on the modders part but AH has to make things match the rest of the world textures etc, which the ones they put out do while unfortunately not being that great in the first place
>>575833098The left ones look better, aren't those the swigger ones though?
>>575833952Surely we'll get a titled update out of it
>>575834004The armour looks straight-up unfinished. You can even see shading artifacts because parts of it are lacking normal maps.
>>575833098no one but incels care about this
>>575813298>>575813743figures
>>575814586Essentially. Some harder to make variants give enhanced strength, but only if the wearer has ports built into their muscles to accommodate. Other than that, it's just a suit of armor that provides brief vacuum survival, as well as a helmet with auspexes.Considering the regularity of suicidal tactics and relative frailty compared to genetically enhanced Astartes, it doesn't make a ton of logistical sense to go whole hog on making power armor that has so many bells and whistles.
>lot of players already shitting on the warbond as wellAH has no goodwill left
>>575828626Not sure why literally anyone remembered or expected elysians who are a discontinued product.
>>575834969They worked hard for that, and given their endless arrogance, laziness, maliciousness and incompetence it won't change before EoS
>Check Steam thinking there's a new warbond>Just an announcement>Two more weeksYawn
>>575828869They had to make it accurate to the tabletop where it is also the thinking mans special weapon.
>>575834854Sisters armor is pretty good. They actually can go pretty high tier because they get good funding and aren't actually that big (compared to something like imperial guard). Also, besides the actual suicide sisters (who aren't wearing power armor), they really aren't anymore suicidal than any other 40k faction that willingly walks into a fight.
end of service this year basically confirmed
I have noticed that EU TZ players do not fund HODs very much. It's always NA TZ that pushes the most progress. Are you eurofags sample poor or something?
>>575834969It's all retarded niggas who should be getting mad at GW instead or thought we would get space marines. Also AH can't even do a bugfix or buff a weapon without fags who haven't touched the game in over a year throwing a tantrum in the replies, so it's hardly surprising.
>>575834969Everyone is only now realising that Arrowhead is actually incapable of living up to their grand ideas and expectations of what the game should be. The amount of delusion I've seen when it comes to what people expect from them is actually insane, a good example is that there are actually people who believe something like space battles or boarding automaton destroyers or the super weapon is something the swedes can actually develop. They should have known better a while ago
>>575834320Here's your title update
>>575833098>did 'eavy metal painting style on a non-miniNO
>>575831179The Autocannon has a proximity fuze. Bolts are mass-reactive. Meaning they have a delayed explosion on contact. Different patterns of bolts explode different types of things into their targets, but the mechanics are roughly identical before said explosion.
>>575833098Same energy
>>575828869I hope melta gun is just a high dps short range laser cannon with ammo.Pretty much what i wanted the flamethrowers to be.I hate DoT so much.
>>575835360>to their grand ideas and expectations of what the game should bePeople out there really expecting anything other then the game they are currently playing? The one that shipped?This is like when people see an early access game and tell you that it's gonna be totally different on full release, they are just retarded.
>August warbond>Fuck LOL thats so far away!>realize its the end of July>only 2 weeksFucking christ this year flew.....
>>575834969The issue with this collab specifically is way to many people are retarded and expected way more out of it because they haven't read anything the devs have said about crossovers and how they have to make sense in universe.
>>575828871>>575829764hotshot, not a traditional lasgun>firing yellowITS LITERALLY NOT A 40K THING ITS A HELLDIVERS THING, YOU SHOULDNT BE BEHOLDEN TO GAYS WORKSHOPS CORPORATE MANDATES
>>575835573Does seem to be the case, would be the most lore accurate way to depict it as well especially since it's clearly anti-tank.
>>575809768It was inevitable
>>575834969Good. That's what those faggots get for having a mountain's worth of good will and then burning it all up to the point that everyone despises them now.
>>575835870>ITS LITERALLY NOT A 40K THING ITS A HELLDIVERS THINGWell helldivers lasers are yellow.
>>575835870Hotshot is traditional, this is silly.No lasers or whatever sure.>not a 40k thinglollmao
>>575836037they can be red
If the ODST stuff was actual LARP gear from an in-universe TV show, why expect anything else for the Warhammer bond? Warhammer fans didn't seriously just expect a one-to-one recreation of their game's gear like a massive shipment of lasguns on a frieghter got lost in the warp and traveled to the Helldivers universe, right? Although, I guess the meltagun being powerful enough to blast factory striders means it can't be just LARP gear... or Super Earth doesn't actually mind citizens that can purchase their own anti-armor arms.
>>575836173Not a single Super Earth made laser in the game is red.
>>575811101Oh the melta isn't a primary??? what the fuck? Why would you even take that over the laser cannon
>>575835573>>575835882The way they use it in the trailer has me worried they'll stick it to heavy pen
Doesn't a lasers color indicate how strong it is, kinda like with fire? So red lasers are the weakest, and the closer you come to white the more powerful they are?
>>575836182The ODSTs are at least more accurate lookingWarhammer guys are from a Super Earth board game of DND
>>575836360Yeah I had missed where they were shooting the tank, hard to say, not to say it will be bad if it's just AP4 since the damage will hopefully be higher.
>>575836427Isn't blue the wavelength that blinds you instantly?
>>575836342Hopefully it'll be anti tank
>>57583004235-40 ergos is where shit starts to become noticeably snappy... 30 is stock dominator tier which feels shit
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>>575836182>If the ODST stuff was actual LARP gear from an in-universe TV show, why expect anything else for the Warhammer bond?I'd argue this is an issue in general with how many warbonds are viewed. Like, Viper Commandos, Truth Enforcers, Chemical Agents, and Python Commandos are all in universe LARP gear that Super Earth sells to their military.
I am torn between the devs being retards and the players being retards
>>575836697>30 is stock dominator tier which feels shitmaybe to you. 30 is fine to me.
>>575836427>>575836692Its related to the wavelength Colors as such don't exist in reality, its just an interaction between the light and our eyes and our brain. the visible length waves are actually "weaker" and by that I mean that the most powerful wavelengths cannot be seen.Mind you, this doesn't really matter because if it was a true laser weapon you wouldn't really see anything, you would just project the light beam at people and they would pretty much just explode or melt depending on the power. Probably explode is my guess because you'd be boiling their blood in a few miliseconds at which point the increased pressure in them would make them literally explode
>>575837047The devs have been retarded for so long, the only players left are retards. That includes us.
>>575836763This ESL fag browses /vg/ and you can tell
>>575837047Devs were the original retardsNon-retarded players noticed the retardation and moved on Now you are surrounded by retards
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>>575837116So lasers acting like giant scalpels that cut space ships into parts with neat lines is pure fiction?What a shame, even lasers just make stuff explode. reality sure is boring.
>>575837047>I am torn between the devs being retards and the players being retardsYes.But for real, HD2 "player"base is actually insane at this point.
Speaking of colors the blue hot you get coming out of the meltas looks rad
>>575837631Yeah the melta mine is pretty plain jane but the explosion looks very cool ( <- this is important)
>>575837447>asks for regiment>gets the name of the armed forces in generalIt's like asking a dude which regiment he's from and he replies "US Army", what a retarded comic
>>575837227i didn't click, explain
>>575837535>So lasers acting like giant scalpels that cut space ships into parts with neat lines is pure fiction?Nonono, in fact I believe this already exists but its used to cut very slim pieces of metal, you can also potential weld shit together with lasers but that is beyond me.What I meant with the explosions bit is that if you used it on an organic which is mostly water then yeah, its just going to explode violently, think of it like a boiler which is pressure sealed, if you increase the pressure because you boiled the liquid inside then its going to have a pressure explosion. The more liquid you boil in a few miliseconds the bigger the explosion. When interacting with metal you could potentially cut through metal or melt it but you wouldn't really see anything cool other than melting shit.
Last galactic campaign before SQUID MAJOR UPDATE
>>575837891Leakfags are slacking usually by now we'd know everything about the update
Im still under lvl 100 :(
>>575836172what I mean is that arrowhead said that any crossover is a helldivers thing, not some non-canon whateverso, because its technically not a 40k thing, it should not be beholden to GWs rules when it comes to 40k
>>575809554MELTAGUN
>>575838164>it should not be beholden to GWs rules when it comes to 40kOkay but that makes zero sense so I don't know what you are trying to get at with this technicality.Of course a crossover is going to be beholden to whoever the crossover is being coordinated with.
>>575838383Robutt is... a larper...?
>>575834969This is blatantly the best Legendary Warbond of the three. Anybody complaining is retarded.
Are you telling me THIS is the WH40K pattern for exosuit when they had a billion dreadnought paintjobs to copy
>>575838762wat
>>575809554>2 week delay>armor isn't painted Helldivers colors despite the whole point of minis being the different schemes you can use>Melta mines for some reason instead of krak nades or any other kino 40k explosives>"marksman" hotshot>no laspistol>another>A FUCKING NOTHER>Bland ass olive camo patternHoly unfinished warbondWhat a fucking meh revealI'm glad that literally everyone i've seen talk about this is disappointed, but hey atleast it's marginally better than the halo bond :/
>>575838813That will depend on the actual weapon performance because in appearance, you can't beat the Killzone armor. But long as the weapons are actually good, then I agree.
>>575835870>ITS LITERALLY NOT A 40K THING ITS A HELLDIVERS THING, YOU SHOULDNT BE BEHOLDEN TO GAYS WORKSHOPS CORPORATE MANDATESIt's always been a 40K thing. There's ancient as fuck artwork showing lasguns firing yellow beams. It's just that GW has finally realized red beams are wrong, and they're just cracking down on it.
>>575838813Can't really say for sure until it actually drops. >inb4 the guns are actually still reskins, even the melta (nerfed lascannon for the meme)
>>575838560It doesn't make sense from the perspective of AH being able to do what they want either, since all Helldiver laser weapons shoot yellow, so I'm not sure why AH having free reign would change that.
>>575838964>you can't beat the Killzone armor.what? the armor looks like random cloth shit thrown together, and the helmets are the one with the silly glowing eyes or the pinhead helmet that doesn't go with anything
>>575838964>you can't beat the Killzone armor.Siege Ready, Fortified and Reduced Signature are the three outright best armor passives in the game, and the Killzone armor doesn't get close to any of them.+20% weapon handling and +30% support weapon reload speed is easy high A-tier.
>>575839107>>575839207I'll be real, I really like the helmet. I said armor when all my brain was thinking about was the singular helmet because it's my default with my beloved med. padded default helldiver armor.
>>575833094>back in the dayReminder that AH still can't ban SC cheaters and that it was a pure scare tactic announcementAND they don't actually have a system to track them as per shams begging people in the gooncord to report cheaters to maybe ban them in the future (lmao)
>>575838813>this shit stinks the least out of the 3 shits hereThey all blow ass, i need morecharge poorfags 3k SC or something i just want more out of the crossovers
>>575837005I don't view that as an issue per-se. I think it serves the point of the satire that the civilian and military aren't as distinct as they're seen now, it's just that "cross contamination" (for lack of a better term) goes both ways.
>>575811724It's an anti-tank weapon that rapes everything within its, very short, range
I can't wait for my laser DMR with limited ammo because it runs off disposable batteries.
>>575837047I've never seen a game where both devs and its players have absolutely no idea how the game works, or what it needs to be better. It's infuriating we have retards complaining about weapon balancing when everything else is a bigger issue.
>>575838998yellow, red, blue, rainbow, the colour doesn't fucking matterthe pint of contention is BOLT VS BEAMthe fake laser bullets that GW is pushing are gay, pulsed beams are the visually and mechanically superior option.
>>575838921>let me get a umm, another green "legendary" camo
>>575836618>The ODSTs are at least more accurate lookingThat's true. I've got nothing for that other than the Helljumpers being the developer favorites and literal inspiration for Helldivers in comparison to resizing heroic scale mini-figurines to actual human proportions.
>>575839686The thread schizo is rightthe yellow bullets just look lazy as shitRogue Trader spoiled me, i wanted proper arcing beam kino
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>ArmorS-tier, no brainer>HotshotProbably mid as fuck. The only Marksman Rifle of any value is the Censor and that's specifically against bots, and that's because it heavily enables an MGSV-style of combat.>Bolt PistolEither garbage or God-tier, entirely dependent on its armor penetration level and its explosion damage. If it can't beam a Hulk in the eye, into the trash it goes.>MeltagunKilled a Factory Strider, it's got potential. The question is the ammo to damage ratio in relation to its short range. Considering it's basically a snub-nose Laser Cannon, it should have a fuckton of ammunition.>Melta MineMines are inherently niche as fuck so unless this thing mogs the Thermite Grenades for raw damage, I don't see anybody using these. The other problem with this in your throwable slot is it can't destroy spawners easily if at all, assuming it can't be cheesed to detonate next to them.
>>575810024The bolt pistol will be explosive and will be the bug hole closer 9000
>>575838762No, she's a pyromaniac.
>>575840052>>Hotshot>Probably mid as fuck.The only way I can think it might be saveable is if maybe it gets some attachments or something that allows it to be used in full auto and it has heavy pen, otherwise its dogshit.
>>575840052>armour>S tierlol, lmao even
>>575840329>30% faster support weapon reload speed>20% better weapon ergoIf you don't think this is S-tier, you're retarded. You actually cannot comprehend the most basic situations in which this is useful.
>>575838383kill yourself
>>575840442Please enlighten us you genius
>>575839968steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244866505497/76561197962839239bugs i guesssssssssssssssssssssssss
>>575840052Anon, nobody uses grenades to kill spawners anymore. Either you have a low-yield explosive weapon that can be shot into spawner holes, or an AT weapon that can just blow them up with a direct hit.
>>575840552Me have Recoilless RifleMe see four Hulks and three tanks on horizonMe equip Recoilless RifleMe turn and shoot my RR faster because 40K armor passiveMe wipe out heavy enemies fasterMe not have to worry so much about reload interruptsIf reload interrupt happens, me stage reload faster
>>575840552>>575840329are you stupid?
>>5758406713/4
>>575840692Or you could just take an armour with an actually good buff like faster speed, more armor for the same weight, etc, etc? Its really not that good sorry
>>575840690>Anon, nobody uses grenades to kill spawners anymore.I do, which is usually why I end being the one to do it on bugs because Retard McGee forgot his Quasar Cannon is terrible at deleting bug holes. But then again, I love the basic frags.
>>575840692>stage reload fasterjust realized they're gonna sell us the solution to the crouch reload tech
>>575840671fvlll
>>575840692or you could just bring siege ready, have more ammo all around and better primary reloadsmore ammo = more killing
>>575836182>If the ODST stuff was actual LARP gear from an in-universe TV show, why expect anything else for the Warhammer bond?Should be noted the only gear in the ODST warbond stated to be LARP gear is the assault rifle and shotgun, the armor is stated to be something that debuted during an armor show in Africa, and the recon gear was stated to be an MoI suit used for competitions.
>>575841057I do like basic frags vs. bugs
If double freedom is so good why isn't there a triple freedom?
>>575841208Does Siege Ready make my support weapon reload faster? You know, the guns which tend to take forever to reload?
>>575840329It's literally a straight upgrade to peak physique you clot. The singular time it will not be useful is using the laser canon which no one uses because ITS ASSSSSSssss
>>575841054>more armor for the same weightthis is loser armour for losers preparing to lose. passives that directly but your weapons performance is proactive and tuhs better than passives that buff your survivability which is reactive and only come into play when you fuck up and take damage
But have you guys considered the premiun warhammer items they will certainly try to sell with this warbond? What do you think it will be?
>>575841276I'd rather have an extra support weapon ammofaster reloads ain't gonna mean shit when your counter is at 0
>>575841054>He needs armor higher than 100>Thinks armors that buff your weapons are badActual skill issue and retarded combined.>>575841384Siege Ready provides zero additional ammo for the RR, Airburst, SPEAR, or WASP.
the halo warbond looks like it got more love, with the designs actually being more incorporated into the universe
>>575841324>>575841506>faster movement is... LE BADjust kill yourself already
>>575838813>This turd is the best turd.Those bonds are all overpriced trash and they are all useless unless you really REALLY want to be hecking massa chef. Light weapons are just bad because the game is dominated by the explosive guns.
Best way to grind gun levels up?I pretty much have the good warbonds and full ship but guns go up slow
>>575841658Your whopping extra 5% movement speed is irrelevant in an actual fight.
>>575841658>just kill yourself already>rundiver pushing his coward armouryou first
>>575841597People tried to act like GW wasn't going to be autistic with this but anyone who knows GW knows how this would have gone. They were going to micromanage it to hell and back. Only major bit of soul going on is that they used the color from some classic guardsmen art for the heavy armor which I'm sure took some effort to actually get approved. Meanwhile I doubt Microsoft gave a shit considering they allowed them to mostly do Halo 3 stuff because of ODST instead of modern 343 slop. So they were actually able to put some passion into it even the trailer referencing a game from 2009.
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>>575835450gore warning
>>575841658looking cool > crutchesI will continue ignoring armor passives, they're bloat and should be removed.
>>575841849I wish they had just given me a basic bitch lasgun than whatever this is
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>>575833098inb4 "it looks like shit because its cosplay media literacy and such"
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>>575841506This. Siege Ready only provides ammo for support weapons that really don't need any extra ammo. And most primaries don't need it, either.But a 30% reload speed buff for support weapons is fucking colossal.
>>575841731just do a bunch of d10s? not sure how much faster you'd want other than that
>>575828503>>575829189>zher are people who unironically fall for this
>>575829189>leakers are so desperate for attention that they're re-leaking old shit as new shitNailspitter when
>>575841731Join in progress missions with lots of time spentEither they're getting fucked up or are at extract
>>575840052Unless that Lasgun is ap4 its just another diligence sidegrade. Unless it has a full auto option, which will make it the THIRD Adjudicator side grade.
