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Grilling edition

Previous BBQ: >>575809665

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

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>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
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I love Aqua!
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Hey guys! It’s me!
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who won
who lost
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ralsei sex
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laard kaard erotic
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Umm... poopies
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ralsei butt
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I need to put my hands all over them.
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Sex with senior cuntboy TV
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>>575827483
Hooman!
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>>575827596
I WIN
I ALWAYS WIN
>*wins all over you*
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ralsei hips and thighs
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>>575827596
me
you
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Noelle and Ralsei are inferior and weak because they are feminine
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POLL OF THE CENTURY YOU CAN'T MISS IT
https://strawpoll.com/eNg6vQYo4gA
https://strawpoll.com/eNg6vQYo4gA
https://strawpoll.com/eNg6vQYo4gA
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hey can you guys keep an eye on my Ralsei and make sure no one peeps under his robe while I go out for smokes
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What i wouldn't do to molest a kris
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>>575827596
YOU DECIDE
EPIC
SHITSTORMS OF YOUTEEGEEEEEEEE
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>>575827796
these two are some of the strongest characters in the game though and that’s hot
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Hey gangbangers, is King really gonna be important? He's just sitting there. Being pathetic!
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Flowery’s vaginismus…
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>>575827596
everyone lost.
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>>575827767
male hips are meant to be used as handles to shove their cocks down your throat
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>>575827710
>no nose
why is your tenna neutered
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>>575827880
What's power good for when you can't do anything without someone else manipulating your intentions
Being mentally weak is worse than any physical weakness
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apologies in advance to carolanon but i had to
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>>575827483
>pacifist route (recruit every enemy)
>normal route
>twisted route (abort weird route b4 killing berdly for the twisted ring and then twisted sword)
>aborted weird route chapter 4
>aborted weird route chapter 5
>weird route/side B
How many endings is this bitchass game gonna have? Picunrel.
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>>575827895
His plot is that he hates the Lightners very much so the obvious culmination of that would be doing something to help the Lightners and that means having to do something
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>>575827895
He will breed Tenna
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>>575827682
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?
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Aqua!
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>>575827836
uhhhh… *sniffling and rubbing my nose* yeahhhhh…. *picks him up and runs*
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>>575827783
long ass neck ral
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Thoughts on Deltarune: Connected?
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>>575828001
Kek
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>>575827880
Their purpose no matter what is to be subservient to a masculine person to act as their handler and owner. Whereas a masculine person has independence by default and there isn't that requirement for control.
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>>575827953
'they' do not shove their cocks down my throat
I shove their cocks down my throat
regardless if they want it or not
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>>575827998
ralsei won’t be manipulated by us to the point of holding back all the time and is working in accordance with his own schemes and wr noelle was USING us and kris as an excuse to come into her own
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>>575828018
the weird route cancel jingle didn't play in ch5 so it is SOMEHOW still side b
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>>575827767
i wanna gently press my thighs between Ralsei's cute little head (unless it hurts him)
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>>575827783
>kefir
>cucmber
>cheese
?
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I just hope I get to kill all the characters in the end. Fuck you and your imaginary friends toby fox
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>>575827836
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>>575828183
yes that is what i meant
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Chara my love... Chara my beloved...
I want to hold hands with Chara through a field of pretty flowers... We're going to sit down and wordlessly stare into each other's eyes. Then one of us gently pushes the other onto the patch of flowers and starts undressing themselves...
There's nobody else, besides some birds chirping in the distance. Once both of our clothes are tossed aside, we embrace each other... and just let it happen.
There is not a love more pure than the love i have for Chara.
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>>575828232
you fucked sentence up this but i get it me as we’ll
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>>575828305
He's cooking a cold summer soup
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>>575827895
He's gonna break outta prison and personally eff up the knight after it touches a single hair on lancer's bouncy head. This will then lead to queen un-divorcing him and living together happily forever the end. (Rouxls still gets cucked)
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>>575827897
Can you get him pregnant by rubbing pussies
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what if there was a rap battle between a tranny and a chud who would win
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>>575828001
Unrelated to basically anything but the Sans crying meme reminds me of the first few notes of "the red weed" part 1 from the war of the worlds album
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>>575828432
Undertale
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>>575828432
Uuuu~ tranny! Chud! Tranny! Chud!
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>>575828432
Neither listen to rap
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>>575828432
Trollface appears as a surprise feature and cooks both of them
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>>575828432
The chud would start poorly flirting halfway through and the tranny would get uncomfortable and leave
the chud wins by default
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>>575828354
me on the undertale reply im so glad flowey put a stop to that gay ass nonsense
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>>575828423
Anything is possible… your dream can come true… if you only beleaf.
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>>575828054
my hands sliding up under their shirt, feeling their ribs
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oppa gangam style
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>>575828432
the tranny wouldn't use enough slurs
the chud would use too much
both would be unfunny cringe asses and lose
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>>575827796
Noelle is implied to be controlling of Kris earlier in life

Ralsei is inferior and weak because he's black i mean because hes a darkner

Not to mention utdr's plethora of strong willed femme characters and weak willed men

Toriel
Carol
Blue
Queen

Compared to
Asgore
Pizzapants
Rudy
King
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I would only listen to this hypothetical rap battle if at least one of the sides beats is from a lucki song otherwise im not showing up
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>>575828432
Abe Lincoln like in ERB
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>>575827987
Sometimes he does that when he's relaxed
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>>575828432
chuds listen to a lot of rap but sometimes trannies are more culturally in tune. neither have genuine soul though and will forever be slaves to their in groups
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>>575828001
I forgive you princess
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I love fish
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>>575828621
Very good Kris!
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>>575828397
Apologies im afraid im a little bit retarded
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>>575828698
Hitler kicked Vader's ass btw they just didn't want him to win
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>>575828673
i think ralsei is pretty strong. not just because he’s Strong but because he has the willpower and mental strength to keep smiling despite knowing things are fucked and he doesn’t try to speed the collapse either
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I don't understand what you people are talking about when you go on about "chuds" and other such shite. It's like you're trying to live out a fantasy of being in an argument whilst looking for people to argue with
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>>575828432
one of my clearest memories of using discord was joining some /pol/ adjacent public server in 2016 and there was like 90 people in a call and some tranny joined and started dominating the discussion by virtue of being just willing to be really extroverted and everyone else being too shy to really speak up and had to follow the lead
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chapter q
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>>575829012
you're british, shut up
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>>575828941
1st one could've gone either way desu, Hitler won the 2nd one, and Vader won the 3rd one.
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listen its not my fault that boss monsters are literally built for human cock
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ralsei as my beautiful and unassuming bodyguard who only really submits to (Me)…
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>>575828962
His lack of freedom is directly tied to him being feminine
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>>575828853
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Listen ere’ lightniggers:

Ate me goody-too-shoes
Ate me tasque managers
Ate me salesmen
Ate me order
Ate me limitations
Ate me standing still
Ate me tiredness
Ate me pacification
Ate me me 100 year sleep
Ate me meds
Ate me sanity
Ate me prison sentence
Ate me low bpm
Ate me boredom
Ate me curtains
Ate me outside world
Ate me wheelchair
Ate me locks
Ate me non 2.5D spaces
Ate me uno
Ate me loneliness
Ate me souls
Ate me alt-tab
Ate me pirouette
Ate me little freedom
Ate me refusal to play
Ate me tarry
Ate me hypnosis
Ate me syntax
Ate me normality
Ate me toothbrush
Ate me contemporary fashion
Ate me quietness
Ate me coherence
Ate me black jack (they can't exclude me)
Ate me poker (they also can't those tossers)
Ate me keeping my head on straight
Ate me feet touchin’ the ground
Ate me cyber city
Ate me king of hearts
Ate me king of diamonds
Ate me king of clubs
Ate me dark prince (ain’t racist, just don’t like em’)

Luv me gremlins
Luv me clowns
Luv me bouncin’ head
Luv me scythes
Luv me cards
Luv me chaos
Luv me carousel
Luv me schizophrenia
Luv me personal prison
Luv me ducks
Luv me horses
Luv me shadow crystal
Luv me knight
Luv me devilsknife
Luv me bombs
Luv me number games
Luv me spades
Luv me race
Luv me keys
Luv me curtains on fire
Luv me sharks
Luv me sinners
Luv me smilling
Luv me ring-a-arounds
Luv me fun
Luv me metamorphosis
Luv me nightmares in lightners hearts
Luv me foley
Luv me dancing
Luv me laughing
Luv me spinning
Luv me air crackling
Luv me tail
Luv me neo
Luv me freedom
Luv me teleporting
Luv me boisengirls
Luv me royal court
Luv me seam
Luv me king
Luv me queen
Luv me roarin’ knight
I can do anythin'

Simple AS.
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>>575828830
i decide to post the PG13 version of this picture.
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>>575829153
its tied to him being a filthy darkie actually
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Dont you hate it when you shit little but wipe forever?
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that mettaton poster was right. hiding every post i dont like really does make utg better
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So, how do we feel about Deltratraveler rebooting?
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>he doesnt use 4chanx to filter posts to make /utg/ infinitely better
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>>575829397
treating this place as a substitute for tumblr is what bitch-made people do and i can understand that a mettatroon would say such a thing.
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>>575829373
me
this is why being gay is off the table for me
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>>575828673
>weak willed men

Because they are not masculine enough
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>>575829513
It was cringe then and it will be cringe again
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>>575828978
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>>575829513
Poop
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>>575828978
love
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>>575829513
don't care
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I need to FUCK this jealous stink good boi
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I got through Spam and Gerson ok, but Pink is just RAPING me, the attack with the grid where she drops the bombs just nukes me to the verge of death at the start of the fight everytime.
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>>575829605
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>>575829547
sorry for coming to the Undertale/Deltarune General and expecting people to talk about Undertale or Deltarune instead of their scat fetish. you're right, anon, I'm just a soft little bitch. god why are all chuds so fucking retarded
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how to know if someone on 4chan filtered you?
dont worry, they'll tell you
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Three HEROES appear at WORLDS' edge.
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>>575828673
>rudy
>weak
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>>575829248
Did you get really fucking fat?
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>>575829725
You just have to start envisioning giant fucking red grid lines coming out of the bombs, mentally make where they're going to hit as obvious as possible in your mind so you can focus more on figuring out what spot is safe
Ignore the bombs that she drops on top of the grid at the end, you're just going to have to tank those
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>>575829725
Let either Kris or Susie get downed when they drop near zero and don't waste your items healing them, this gives the last two +1 to the 'doki' meter.
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>>575829513
You keep asking but why should anyone care about unreleased, unfinished fanwork?
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>>575829547
don’t post ralsei while insulting mttGODS
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>>575829805
kek
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>>575829779
I've been told many times
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>>575828673
Rudy is dying and neither him or King is weak willed at all
Arguably Asgore is also not weak willed because he's been chasing the knight at the expense of his family for years
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>>575829557
Most gays use enemas to get clean
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How are people so bad at these games? In my ideal version of Deltarune Flowery is made as difficult as possible to test your skills and prepare you for what’s to come, and 6 and 7 are fucking brutal, Gaster is inverting your controls and forcing you to fight with multiple soul modes active at once etc
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>>575829513
building an entire fangame on a short-lived meme is stupid
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>>575830053
eww
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>>575829710
am i just a pervert for seeing their relationship in a vaguely romantic sense? this is something a textbook tsundere would say about her crush
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>>575829778
i pray for you to grow a fatter brain, because you take the advice of those that make the thread worse and then bitch and then tell people like you to insulate yourself from criticism.
you are the retard. you don't really want to talk about anything. otherwise you would've by now.
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Her game
Her story
Her narrative
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>>575829774
>>575829979
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>>575829992
King is literally the tutorial boss
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>>575829810
rudy being the knight would be cool as shit tbdesuka and i hope it happens purely on that basis
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Please
for the love of GOD
tell me
that there are Monsters 4 Humans in my location
PLEASE
I NEEEEEEED
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Krissy wissy my widdwe honey bunny come here I'm gonna give you a hug you little cutie pie!
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>>575830056
people who genuinely think they can be a fan of Toby's works without also being a Touhou fan
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>>575830056
you are a fag
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>>575830194
He's only "weak" by the narrative's decree. And he isn't weak WILLED. The King has a stronger will than most of the other characters in the game. He gets his ass whooped and never stops trying to turn it back around.
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>>575829961
mettafags need the rope for their crimes against this thread.
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Jevil lost to Level 1 Susie how embarrassing
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>>575830319
It's actually pretty easy
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I found that out of all musical albums, Mellon Collie by The Smashing Pumpkins is the most Deltarune-coded one. Zero in particular is the perfect intro to Kris' character.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wk7C64kaP4
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>>575830396
least obvious false flag
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i got my ass beat by gerson beat the knight in like 25 minutes and 2 shot pink
also look at my cute wife
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IM NOT FAVE
IM MY ORIGINAL CHARACTER
Error Sans
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>>575830396
Ralsei-posters are bad people.
Last tuesday I saw a woman in a Ralsei shirt steal ice cream from a small boy
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>>575830414
Jevil was roofied by a level 1 Ralsei*
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>>575830396
Every time I see this .gif I think of him lifting the other arm then I pick him up and hug him
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SAME HEIGHT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zYH_0yOY84
I'M FALLING SHIT

I almost shat myself man god fucking damnit I'm so gullible
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>>575830525
grgg rgrrsb gskhj girl
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>>575830656
What a devious goat
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>>575830632
she was trying to protect him from the dangers of corn syrup. ralseisisters are rare yet precious and always kind
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lightners can't get fat from Ralsei's dust food but can darkners get fat from it?
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>>575829397
This is the solution, the modern internet is boderline unusable if you don't filter out the shit you don't like/curate your algorithm
I don't know why so many faggots in here get so butthurt over this, sometimes a post or chain is too off-topic and/or too monumentally retarded to waste your time reading
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>>575830632
falsei flag. no woman or """woman""" would ever be a real ralseifag
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What is the lore behind the Irritable Ghost having a smaller penis than the Mew Mew Figurine's Darkner
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>>575830676
nah, lil' bro wants uppies.
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>>575830826
Darkners can be made fat just by a Lightner wishing them so.
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Do you anons Deltarune will get a secret chapter after completing all seven chapters like Live a Live?
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getting roofied by ralsei and thinking it means i’m gonna have a bad (good) time but he just tucks me in and only did it because he remembered me mentioning metformin and how it didn’t work for me
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jevils difficulty only arises from the lack of items you have and toby(note: when i say toby i mean me) assumes problems people have with later secret bosses stems entirely from not having the gear past bosses give you
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>>575830632
She wasn't a real Ralsei fan because she didn't try to steal the small boy.
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>>575830991
Retard
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>>575830525
Asgore's cute wife*
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>>575830949
A secret extra chapter after completing some criteria is Ludokino of course but isn't that what Chapter 7 Side B is
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>>575830676
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>>575830902
Men are the primary audience and their insecurities are funny or sexually arousing to the artist
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pluey kitty cute plouey cat kitty furry cute kiss pluey kitty paws and tail precious aww kitty pluey baby sweet baby kitty precious pluey
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>>575830991
FATALITY
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>>575830896
Why not? I dont see why a woman wouldnt like Ralsei
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Heh, it’s my jarona!
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>>575830738
>one month after chapter 5
>Ralsei princess dress thumbnail
This is a little embarrassing yeah
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>>575830896
Are you sure? Do women hate Ralsei?
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Crazy how these threads ragebait me less than Twitter does.
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>>575831045
We tried to make Kris cuck his own dad and somehow he's the bad guy?
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>>575830949
I think it for sure will have some kind of open "Go make your own continuation" type ending. I have the slight hope that he'll release the game assets under a permissive license or something. Probably not the code of the chapters themselves, but the gameplay and locations as well
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>>575831143
i could defeat this thing in a domestic dispute.
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>>575831119
He's an effeminate sissy faggot
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Jevil's difficulty arises from pacifying him requiring Ralsei to be alive because Toby was all in on Sleep and hadn't invented the mercy meter
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>>575831143
i'd rape this bitch so bad bro
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>>575830953
sure
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>>575831045
Awww
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>>575831045
cute... is there a sequel?
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>>575831143
I'd prefer to have consensual sex with this individual.
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>>575831238
by suffocating her under your rolls?
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>>575831119
women tend to like ralsei in a "my son" way or he is like a plush toy to them. very few want to fujo out with him and even fewer yume. ive never seen a raly yume actually
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>>575831045
toby has been planning it for years
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>>575831371
there is no world where asgore wants mew over fucking TORIEL
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>>575831337
if you say it like that Ralsey sure is a failure of a boy
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>>575831332
>he doesn't know my BMI deeplore
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>>575830939
that isn't as hot though
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>>575831435
you exist in the world where flowery was so off-putting that it put asgore off from toriel completely
your fave's future is getting CATGIRL'D im afraid
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There's not enough discussion about how the dark worlds are meant to evoke that feeling of kids playing pretend and that all the characters within a dark world have to buy into the imagination.
Toriel HAD to be asleep or she would kill the magic with her realism outlook. Asgore is an adult who doesn't buy into the larp but he's still drawn into the darkness because he's schizobrained. Undyne buys into the larp perfectly because she's chuuni and gets punished for it.
Susie knows intuitively that it's meant to be a pretend game which is why adults can't take part.
Ralsei is a GM who strings his friends along the adventures with a hand-holdy attitude. Flowery is that guy that goes "I use my OP laser beam to nuke everything and instantly win" which pisses Ralsei off because he's ruining the adventure. Everyone's pretending the pencils and toothbrushes are weapons but the Knight brings along a REAL bat and attacks everyone in real life with it.
Whatever this means, this tells us the Knight doesn't buy into the fantasy that Kris and Susie see. It sees that Flowery is just a flower and smashes it. This also demonstrates that darkners can easily be unpersoned the moment people stop believing in them.
Ralsei has control over the "game" and could potentially interfere to help his friends. But he also has to make sure we the player are engaged with the game mechanics or we would see the world for what it really is and stop suspending our disbelief.
If there is a sword route, then I think it's about becoming like the Knight. The "trance down" effect attacks objects in the light world, or possibly deletes dark worlds altogether. It's a deliberate rejection of what dark worlds, even games in general, are supposed to be, because you don't buy into the imagination. You're too jaded to play games so it's time to force reality back into the world.
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>>575827710
Why is he so small? Any healthy Tenna will always be taller and bigger than any human when happy, does he have hormonal problems or are you forcing him to take meds that block his growth cells?
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>>575831435
Mew Mew is way hotter and funnier, though? Tori is in trouble here…
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>>575831337
because ralsei is a faggot and not a tall and manly chad
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>>575831435
He doesn't need to want her more, he can just move on with his life
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/drg/ just died...
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>>575831605
mew wont ever appeal again unless its a big scene where everyone comes back to life so wtv
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>>575831721
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>>575831292
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>>575831607
This is wrong because the knight's "bat" turns into a sword and cuts the flower instead of smashing it and its glass case. The knight is also a larper
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This is what Asgore says about the Mew Mew Figure
>* Oh, that little action figure?
>* Just a gift from a, sort of, friend of mine.
>* Isn't she cute? She's like the store mascot!
Is it possible that it's NOT Alphys who gave her the figurine
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>>575831662
yeah i know. beyond him not being tall he is also super feminine but now that i think about it that venti character from genshin is pretty popular amongst women. though i cant tell if thats in a fujo way or a yume way
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>>575831615
He likes being small and cute near me. I'm not forcing him.
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>>575831740
She isn't actually a flower so she can live in the school closet no problemo
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>>575829812
I got moosive, mate
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>>575831740
she was recruited to castle town and is half-lightner instead of turning into an item
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>>575831321
Yeah maybe consensual lesbian sex. Cause you're a pussy.
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>>575831605
on a more serious note though i do genuinely think its something toby's writing up to, unless his love of making characters have crushes on others who dont love them back continues
>>575831740
ahem, only secret boss you can recruit to castle town award, not to mention shes like, alive and stuff
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>>575831371
Maddie's gonna become Asgore's employee with a crush on him but they'll never become an item. She'll go through the "I'LL RESPECT THEIR RELATIONSHIP!!" thing again but she'll bounce back.
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>>575831890
how is she going to get there? Kris finds her annoying and Susie doesn't give a shit
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>As you know, Kris, for all our sakes, I have decided to move on with my life.
>And, well…
> Well, Kris, I have met a wonderful new woman!
>She is very funny and kind, and she shows such an interest in the flowers!
>But there is one thing I do not understand, Kris.
>I thought I would consult a young one such as yourself for clarification.
>Tell me, what is a “transgender”?
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>>575831820
"Sort of friend" means he and Alphys have sex every now and then, kind of like how Sans and Toriel are sort of friends.
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>>575831846
only for getting fucked in the ass by actual men
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>>575831607
I think related to this (You) knowing that Deltarune is a video game forces the Knight to "play by the rules" which is what makes you its natural enemy and why it needs Kris to run interference
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>god why is she so stupid
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>>575831814
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>>575831931
i did not recruit her in my game fuck mew mew
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>>575831238
bro you are like a demigod, it's not fair
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>>575831815
Yeah tbdesu I see that too.
I'm torn between the Knight being an uber realist who wants imagination to die vs the Knight being so entranced in imagination that it brings the larp IRL. Maybe both are true at the same time.
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can the dreemurrs please rip me apart and consume me that would be so hot
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>>575831721
We noticed. The /v/irgins invaded last thread
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>>575832015
I thought this was Carol speaking at first because of the "As you know".
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>>575831820
Not it's almost 100% Alphys that gave it to him, he probably just doesn't want to embarrass Kris by going "HEY KRIS YOUR LOSER FAILURE FREAK OF A TEACHER WANTS ME TO BONE HER"
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>>575832084
>Pink will never appear in the game again, because I personally did not even do the fight to begin with.
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>>575832050
Blessed dino
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>>575831964
Wait I just realized that both maddie and alphys had seperate crushes on both undyne and asgore. Is there a specific type those two exude that attracts loser weebs?
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>>575832094
hello tasqueman.
this thread is busy being really pissed and talking about nothing.
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>>575832028
nta but there are a lot of venti yumes. now, they DO tend to draw him more androgynously than men do. when you come across a ralsei fujo, they also draw him more boyishly than girlishly unless they're a trans ralsei truther
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>>575831740
She explicitly tells the Fuck Gang she'll be seeing us again, and she promises Ory to help Asgore take care of her.
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kris doesnt like alphys because shes fucking his dad
kris also doesnt like maddie because she too is fucking his dad
toby dm'd me this
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>>575832047
But Flowery used the videogame mechanics against the Knight
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>>575832120
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>>575832125
but /drg/ JUST died...
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Poo Poo will get two lines of dialogue and nothing else.
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>>575831045
I ninja this real quick because I really like this drawing it's cute
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>>575829330
I know that one
Oh I know that one
Off-topic, but seriously though, why are people so insistent on giving Undyne nose/nostrils. Just why?
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>>575832315
While (We) were like half a mile away and not participating in the fight
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Does Maddie actually have a crush on Asgore or did chapter 5 soft-deconfirm it?
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>>575832247
as usual?
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>>575832258
i am probably the one (1) fujo who likes it when ralsei is decently girly
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>>575832052
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>>575831820
>Is it possible that it's NOT Alphys who gave her the figurine

it's alphys again, who else likes mew mew anime in town? alphys sure is strange, how come she gets the mew mew figure that has history with eram and the cats?
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>>575832245
kind bara and fiery wife
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>>575832219
Whenever I see this Ralsei face, I imagine whatever he's saying is being prefaced with a chuckle like
>"Heh, okay!"
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>>575832390
cute
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>>575832096
I think Kris represents one and Dess represents the other.
Ideally, the best outcome is being in an in-between clopen state.
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>>575832403
Wrong. We were watching.
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>>575832295
Kris also doesn't like Sans because he's fucking Toriel. Why is Kris so selfish? Adults are allowed to meet new people after divorce.
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>>575832446
she called him a laverbread munching hunk during the festival at the start of the chapter
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>>575832536
what does that mean
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>>575831337
There are the women who self insert as Ralsei
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>>575831820
Alphys made Asgore watch anime. It's mentioned in previous chapters
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>>575832219
>>575832084
there is an argument to be made that Pink will join castle town even if you dont interact with her.
>When you destroyed the dark world I just followed you, mew
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>>575832390
Nice, I love the way you draw Asgore
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>>575832245
Fujobait

>>575832446
>Chapter 2: "Say hi to your dad for me~"
>Chapter 5: calls him a "hunk"
>Says she's always been watching him through the doll but never dared talk to him
I think she's at least a little fond of him.
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>>575832245
Sub and dom. Who else are they going to have crushes on?
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>>575831948
It's actually kinda crazy how down bad this bitch is for the bara goat.
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>>575832468
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>>575832594
>he never had a girl call him a munching hunk before
a fatass whos hot
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Kris is bitter and passive-aggressive and both pushes everyone away and gets upset about them having other things going on
Yet I must save them because I am Superman
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>>575832594
in welsh laverbread is bara lawr
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>>575832714
we don't deserve you anon
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>>575831337
There's a huge risk of being a Ralsei fujo and him becoming a tranny. Happened with Jax yumes.
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>>575832505
It's a sin against Christ to divorce. They're still married in the eyes of God
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>>575832714
Kris wants to save everyone. I want to save Kris. Simple as
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>>575831309
Srry but nah, have this tho since I'm similarly desperate for mewgore content
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>>575832793
Jax yumes wanted him because of his dominant behavior
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papyrus yume x therapy when
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>>575832714
We shall save our fictional child
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>>575832809
>This is what Asriel mistakenly believes
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>>575832809
Cringe
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>>575832450
as usual.
>>575832393
the lack of some anatomical features freak people out.
making undyne look like voldemort is just weird.
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>>575832390
Wait that's adorable, great job.
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>>575832684
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>>575827641
Calling him a Slamkaard because his body is beautiful but his personality is ugly
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Temmie wrote the "drink all the water in the bath" option in reference to the Final Fantasy XIV Endwalker quest where you're given the option to suggest drinking all the water in the Imperial park fountain.
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>>575828673
Ralsei is scheming mew, he's feigning weakness
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>>575831337
I really like Raly but he feels tailor made for Kris so I can't yume him. Noel on the other hand
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>>575830053
Most gays suffer from incontinence
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>>575832505
>>575832809
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>>575827641
It's Rolls Laard.
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>>575832625
nobody does that surely
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Mew Mew and Asgore should be happy together, taking care of Ory and the other flowers.
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>>575832793
there is no risk because trans ralsei has no canon basis
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>>575832680
How old is Maddie canonically? Because if she's Asriel's age, that would be awkward as hell.
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Ralsei is actually a reference to Final Fantasy 11 and how you can start leveling a different job while using your previously mastered job as a subclass like how he's leveling White Mage with a mastered Black Mage subclass
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>>575833185
this ain't real.
please tell me this isn't real.
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>>575827641
That ain't a Kaard, that's a whole Rouxle Booke
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>>575832884
oh.. that's mewgore, mewgore of my fave . . .
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>>575833238
>>575832680
>hsts
what a disappointment
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>>575833185
She can still have sex with men, my mom had a new "friend" over every weekend after her divorce, Kris should be happy Sans isn't a child molester
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Susie is a straight comphomo girl.
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>>575833154
Noelle yume?
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>>575833238
Pink Flowery and Asgore all have sex together as a clever reference to what Asgore did with the Holidays before he married Toriel
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>>575833208
There has been a small wave of trannies who self insert into Ralsei and use him as a base for all their AGP lesbian fetishist fantasies. Maybe that's who he's talking about
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>>575833116
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>>575831337
Ralsei is cute and feminine men make me howl, I would sex him without a second thought but he doesn't have what it takes for me to obsess enough over him to yume
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>>575833157
proof?
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>>575833238
Except Seth, Berdly gets to take care of Seth.
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This is a Robert Fuchs production so you must always be ready for Fave to turn out to be trans and bisexual no matter how unlikely it might seem
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>>575833348
Hmnehehehe
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>>575833367
is it hsts to have a crush on undyne also
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>>575833238
>Flowery goes on his own jealousy quest
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>>575833303
its an edit, I replaced the guy's name with "Sans"
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>>575833456
This is a tranny
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my wife is in this image
youll never guess which one
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>>575833282
Neither had Bridget or Jax until last episode (and not even then). If this was year 2016 it would be different but I'm not taking a single risk with male characters who are associated with crossdressing, "traps", femboys or anything that will turn them into trannies.
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>>575833464
>>575833238
Berdly visiting the shop at some point and Maddy at least opening up to Asgore are pretty much confirmed I think.
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>>575833621
flowery
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>>575833625
If Ralsei is trans, Toby would also probably come out as trans because he was loosely based on an RPGmaker OC that represented himself
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>>575833372
Did your mom's sex friends atleast give you gifts?
Was the divorce because she needs her pussy fucked?

Said Kris
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>>575833494
Flowery’s got a second goat all lined up, just in case. He’ll transition into being Asgore’s unneeded and often counterproductive wingman. Like that one movie.
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When will Kris get his domain expansion?
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>>575833116
Then I hope Temmie and Toby steal more evergreen S-Tier jokes from media they love.
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>>575830679
Papyrus will always be taller than them in my fanon.
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>>575833367
Let the tranny catgirl have her fail-husband dude
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Need more people to get into the "everyone's dead EXCEPT Asriel" theory because it's looking more real with every chapter.
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>>575833621
It's the cheese, isn't it
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>>575833621
My favorite rarepair is in that image
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>>575833047
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>>575833625
bridget and jax were uncomfortable with being feminine. jax in particular is a character written by a tranny. ralsei has no hang ups over being girly or male, so it's pretty different
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>>575833801
>Did your mom's sex friends atleast give you gifts?
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>>575833781
>because he was loosely based on an RPGmaker OC that represented himself
sauce?
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>>575833949
Isn't bridget also a rebooted version of a character from a much older game? Like it's not even the same character technically speaking
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>>575833864
who the fuck is asriel
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>>575833294
she quit school seemingly recently considering she's still got it on the mind, so at the very least she's definitely younger than asgore
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>>575833886
Only I get to date green
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>>575833854
mew is a normal girl and not a transvestite. stop projecting and play the game
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>>575833157
>source: my ass
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>>575833470
S-so you're saying....Mew Mew is....
....female and bisexual?
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>>575834038
You guys don’t know about Ralse?
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>>575834129
my ass:brrrpppffrrt
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>>575833372
>>575833801
>mommy gets her hole plowed by men i don't know
this is incredibly sad.
sad if real.
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im glad with each passing chapter people are forgetting who ramb is
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>>575834135
No thats starwalker
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>>575833294
It's been the norm for thousands of years of history for older goats to date young catgirls in their prime. Can't have shit with woke anymore.
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>>575833391
Noel (male)
Noelle sucks
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SOURCE THE MY ASS
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>>575833910
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>>575834087
18-20 year old trying to ride a 40-50 somethings DILF is a little problematic
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>>575834201
who?
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nearly 8 years
still da best
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>>575834090
She's HERS but good taste
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>>575834170
Flowery when he gets into an Elevatory with Ralsei after eating Green's beans...
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>>575834184
Most people have divorced parents these days
This is a pretty common experience
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if in the undertale mad dummy fight you didn't read her as female you're basically media illiterate
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>>575834201
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>>575834254
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>>575834057
iirc strive bridget is just regular bridget but further down the guilty gear timeline
that said bridget is an interesting case, as japan still recognizes him as male on a fandom level, and his supposed tie to womanhood isn’t emphasized anywhere in japanese marketing materials. it’s easily ignorable
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why did toby make a family of pokemon
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>>575834201
The guy who wrote Dracula?
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sorry guys, kris's big character arc is learning to love anime and anime girls
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>>575834161
are you fucking with me
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Ralsei has ball growth size magic
No penis size magic
only balls
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the friendship between noelle and berdly going almost completely unexplored is one of my biggest critiques of toby's writing
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>>575834372
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>>575833208
I appreciate Ralsei as his own character but he's pretty relatable to me and I accidentally do that sometimes, or at least I project hard enough onto him that I get jealous.
>>575833432
Those types of people also exist but I remember this conversation happening in the threads before they became more vocal and it was about cis women projecting onto him.
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>>575834318
no, this is an american thing.
because nothing is holy to americans and the freedom of women to get their cunt fucked is more holy than stability, love or how this affects the orgasm that you keep as a pet and gave a name.

this is some psychotic shit, my dude.
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>>575834474
ass grip should be juicier
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Ralsei will probably be a lot like Bridget, acknowledged as "trans" in West to shut up the woke players but still marketed and treated as a shota character in Japan for maximum profit.
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I miss when we used to meme about female and bisexual
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>>575833839
When they accept that ACT is magic
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>>575834442
the blook family are his best characters
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>>575834201
Random Access Memory Blast?
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>>575834335
i mean come on she's just sakuya with dio references
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>>575834486
RAL'S GOT BIG BALLS
RAL'S GOT BIG BALLS
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>>575834648
Awww
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>>575834619
NOOO HEAL THE KRIS
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>>575834474
Kris abandoned their promise to the knight to instead pound catgirl pussy all day
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>>575834614
Bridget isn't marketed as a shota character, he is very visibly adult. And ralsei simply has no chance of being transed out..
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>>575834667
>If your name is on the guest list
>No one can take you higher
>Everybody says I've got
>Great balls of fire
Foreshadowing
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The Eggs are for the Abandoned Quiche.
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>>575834335
TRVKE
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>>575834486
i don't like the mental image i got from reading this post
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>>575834480
Here pic related
https://chartcarr.neocities.org/secretbase_5
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>>575834515
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>>575828978
Yeah sure I'll get him pregnant
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>>575834810
I have fapped to Bridget doujinshi since year 2006 and none of them have ever perceived him as a gross adult man.
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>>575834558
Where are you from, friend? Check the divorce rates per country and find out
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the secret is that ralsei has already transitioned
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>>575834935
To be fair for clarification, Ralse is technically the name of the main character of the game, not green mage Toby. Although it seems that Ralsei is a merge of the two ideas to some degree
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>>575834935
>Pirate
https://youtube.com/watch?v=M8caa3KAt6s
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>>575834986
That's how you turn him into The Broodmother on the second iteration
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>>575834247
Of course
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>>575835102
Yes I misremembered! My mistake
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>>575834935
kind of cool. man i'm hype for chapters 6/7
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>>575834514
There's only so much time for each character to shine. What do you think their relationship would be like? Berdly seems to awkwardly walk all over Noelle but that's only cause she's a pushover. The moment she pushes back the little blue autist gets the hint and is even supportive of her.

Honestly a realitic combo. Seen relationships like that pleanty of times. Autistic kid can't distinguish politeness from friendliness and pushover can't stand up for themselves for even the littlest thing.

But at the start of the festival we can see them both grow a bit. It's cute.
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>>575834442
Came up with a revised list for ther Digimon names, because they're actually didimons:

>Pinkubakemon > Mettatonmon > EX-Mettatonmon > NEO-Mettatonmon
>Orenjibakemon > Punsugadummymon > Punsugamewmon > Momomewmewmon
>Isekibakemon > Isekidummymon
>Shirobakemmon (Blooky is happy at Rookie stage)

Mettaton and Mew got their ultimate forms, and now Ruins Dummy is here
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>>575834984
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ralsei is ftm and her entire story will be realizing transitioning was a mistake
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Morning /utg/ sucks
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no idea what we are talking about
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Ok Ralsei now turn into a horse
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>>575835242
What about Keisatsubakemon
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>>575835338
Big adventure
Tons of fun
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ralsei will be bread
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>>575835338
>BEAST WAAAAAAAAAAARRRSSS
>*transformer noises*
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I have razors
I'm gonna do it this time
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>Napstablook is a valuable and respected member of society because he's a normal person
>He has to be the sole breadwinner for his two freak shut-in cousins who do nothing to benefit the people around them and instead sit around all day wishing they were anime characters
What did Toby mean by this?
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>>575835504
*She
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>>575835494
be careful shaving down there
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>>575835412
what sort of game is ralsei rancher
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>>575835132
H-hot....
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>>575835407
Shit that's good.
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>>575835504
Toby is a Yume Nikki fan. He’s not a hikki-basher. He wants them to get better. You’re supposed to think good things about Napstablook, not bad things about his cousins
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>>575835591
A cross between a horse grooming game and a dating sim
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>>575835149
I mean
>Cute sadomasochistic reindeer boy attracted to confident lizard woman
Too bad she's carpet muncher in canon because Noel would've 100% been best boy
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>>575827682
Impregnating Kris.
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>>575835494
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>>575828621
*Kribs
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i wish mew mew had been a cute boy instead of generic anime girl #82
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>Toriel cautiously opens the door on a stormy late night after being awoken by a mix of frantic repeat rings of the doorbell followed by knocks
>She finds herself greeted by the now familiar purple monster Susie, soaking wet, clutching a mish-mash of clothing, papers, personal appliances and other personal belongings close to her torso in an attempt to half shield them from the rain.
>But what draws a gasp from Toriel is the girl's face.
>A swollen black eye, drastic enough for Toriel to spot even under the dim porch light and upon the girls...abnormal...'skin tone', there was blood, some fresh, some dry running out of what looked like a clearly broken snoot and it was rather obvious from her eyes that she had bawling the entire walk from...wherever...to here.
>"M...Ms. Toriel could I...Please stay for tonight...I have nowhere else to go now..."
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>>575835650
Oops, sorry, wrong pronoun, my mistake
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>>575834247
>disliking noelle
shit taste as expected of a foid
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>>575835504
Blooky was always the best adjusted one in UT as well because he's happy as a ghost and he has music, plus he took care of the farm. Mettaton was driven and ambitious but repressed and depressed, and Maddy was always a total fucking mental mess that surrounded herself with garbage and never bothered speaking to her family despite living next to them. Biggest trick Toby played on us is making us think Blooky was the depressed one. He's always been the normal one.
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>>575835504
He meant for me personally to relate to it
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>>575827730
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>women are repulsed by Ralsei
>men want to kick him and insult him
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>>575835924
mewspammers are cringe so i get it
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>>575835650
people say Toby is a Yume Nikki fan but honestly besides Gaster/Mystery man sprite being a rip-off from Uboa I dont feel anything Yume Nikki in Undertale/Deltarune.
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>>575833781
Ralph from Rocko's Modern Life was the creator's self insert and voiced by him but she still transitioned into a woman(named Rachel now) in the reboot movie, still voiced by the original creator btw.
point being a character can originally be the creator's self insert but somewhere along the way that creator changes their mind and writes them into their own character
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>>575836079
i'm a woman and i love ralsei
he's like the ideal uke…
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i was more interested in noelle in chapter 1
But the more toby leaned into her sadomasochistic shit the more turned off i got for some reason
Idk all the locker stuff feels weird to me
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>>575836097
The 1225 room in chapter 5 feels pretty much a nod to Yume Nikki
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>>575836079
who's the bitch who said she was repulsed by ralsei
ill kick her ass and send her hairpiece flying
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how do i be like kris? i want to have their whole deal going on, aesthetic and so on
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>>575836196
also the screen with the hand snake and friend chair felt very yume nikki-ish to me
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>>575836005
oh enlighten me on what good taste looks like then anon-sama
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>>575836079
i just feel neutral about these ralseis
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>>575836167
cis or trans tho?
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>>575836226
Start a diet of fried air
Become apathetic
Get silver poisoning
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>>575836196
*chapter 3
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>>575835251
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>>575835924
yes we get it the Deltarune fandom is gay, you guys wanted another male schizo dude to feed into your Spamton-Tenna-Mike fanfics
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>>575835924
Mettaton and Blooky have the cute boy market cornered

>Cute ghost > Loud woman > Flamboyant man

very balanced and cute group.
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>>575836343
why the silver poisoning?
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>>575836079
how could anyone kick him!!!
He's so adorable i just wanna coddle and fuss over him every day

dunno about the women part cuz im not one but surely theres atleast one who feels the same
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>>575835051
in 2025, 348.813 people married, in the same year 130.053 divorced.
that is roughly 37,28%

128 354 of which (~36,79%) were straight.
1699 of which (~0,48%) were faggots (i simplified this point because i am not going over wether or not the domestic dispute was man on man violence or foid on foid fights)

so roughly one third of normal marriages go up in smoke.
and the statistic realistically foreshadows the relevance of homosexuality.
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>>575836042
Oh wait, where is the tutorial dummy in deltarune? Is he also living there or did they move out and become an investment banker or something?
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>>575836196
I guess its a tiny bit of red maze if you remove everything interesting about the red maze/hell
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>>575835924
Battat is the same character he's just a guy and has more interesting conflict
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>>575836450
That's how you turn blue
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>>575836167
>he's the buttfucktoy for the man you're really attracted to
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>>575836339
kek
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>>575836541
I heard the ruins dummy ghost got into some shady teruterubozu pirate business
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>>575836097
Deltarune is about exploring dreams, though. It’s just a linear action game instead of an open-ended adventure game. I mean, doesn’t the forgotten man theme come straight from a Yume Nikki fan track Toby made?
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>>575836491
Why are you comparing the number who married only in that year to the overall total number of divorcees across all marriages that would likely be a much larger number as it's pulling from the pool of every marriage in total?
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>>575835924
You already have Spamton who accomplishes the same things Pink did you greedy shit
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If you don't have a gf/bf that cares about deltarune more than you, you lost.
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these AI generated aliexpress plushies lmao
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>>575836349
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>>575835924
you have the most bulleted checklist cute boy character that only a millennial could create in the form of ralsei already
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>>575836541
I think as a gag he's just gonna be chlling in their house all along because even though DR ghosts can't move things, that doesn't make a difference for how he acted in UT kek. Or maybe what you said and somehow they bumbled into a lucrative job despite never saying anything, that'd be funny too.
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Yume Nikki is boring as hell I can't believe people unironically praise it
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>>575836187
Porn cliches
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>>575836740
>Caucasian Seth
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The undertale museum is the GALLERY prophecy and it is the chapter 6-7 ARG. There will probably be a virtual tour stream by Fangamer for the west
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>>575836719
>across all marriages
bro i did that. READ.
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>>575836760
Ralsei's boy days are counted for, and now I'm left starving because there are no more cute males in this game
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When I was a wee lad in 2016, I was playing UT and my dear sweet mother came into my room and said "Still playing Atari games?" and I said NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>575837031
it's ok noelle will transition too
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>Flowery is about 3.5 inches
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terrible thread, disappointed in all of you
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>>575836804
if you play Yume nikki with a goal in mind you set yourself up for failure.
Its best to casually explore the worlds and find new and interesting stuff
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>>575837031
but krise...
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>>575836948
does it confirms that hometown is a japanese city?
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>>575837127
the yellow and gold flowers looking the exact same Pisses me off...
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>>575837168
what would make it better friend
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>>575837198
Not a boy
>>575837101
>vagina
Eh.....
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>>575837031
Susie will become FTM
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>>575836725
>ventriloquist DUMMY
>lives in the trash
>borrowed the "Dummy!" instruments and some of the leitmotif
>pulls a scheme to steal the dream of another ghost

Spamton has always been bizarro Maddy so this is what we call a feedback loop.
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>>575837268
transitioners usually don't have cunts.
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>>575836607
hmm. i am attracted to ralsei in a voyeuristic sense. but i can’t ever be a skinny twink or a huge buff dragon girl, or a floating disembodied dick, so it's tough to imagine myself fucking him in a way that’s sexually interesting, and i find self inserting/yume stuff cringe besides. i’ll leave it to the characters
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>>575837101
Noelle transitions to become Gaster on the weird route
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>>575836948
and the best part is, YOU CAN'T COME!
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>>575837268
You're genuinely retarded if you see Kris as female
And everyone knows nonbinary people aren't real
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>>575837245
I want uppies
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>>575837361
The fujo to pooner pipeline
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>>575837478
Larper-kun.............
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where did the neo body come from
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>>575837478
did you know kris isn't real also
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>>575837031
do people itt really think trans ralsei has merit
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>>575836758
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>>575837458
Toby Fox hires security guards to make sure only japanese-born are allowed inside his museum
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why are people mad that women don't like ralsei
women have terrible taste, this is known, you should not be surprised
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If Ralsei were trans could he be a lesbian?
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>>575837594
Mettaton drew it in MS Paint.
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>>575837601
I think something worth calling "trans ralsei" is more likely to happen than not after ch5 but I would be surprised if it happened in a way that the tumblr transfems would find satisfying
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>>575837509
fuck no baby
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>>575837714
proof?
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>>575837692
isn't that normal?
they like men that they would never date in real life or are straight up impossible to exist and will obsess about a two-ton tenna or want to baby the schizophrenic salesman that would kill them on a bad day.
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>>575837782
Talk to Swatch. Swatch is the Paint.exe darkner.
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>>575837782
have you played the game
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>>575837782
Swatch says it. Talk to Swatch after you beat Spamton. It’s Mettaton’s broken dream. That’s why it has a Shadow Crystal.
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>>575837623
Aw, this one's really cute
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>>575837692
women do like ralsei they just don’t tend to like him a way that’s sexual and they’re more prone to trooning him out because they view transfems in a childish skirt go spinny sort of light
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>>575837831
yeah and the people that would want to get mating pressed and impregnated by ralsei are all men (me included)
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>>575837601
it's propaganda
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>>575837831
Men also like women they would never date in real life or don't exist
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Let's talk about actual relevant and important things, like fave
Only losers don't talk about fave
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>>575837909
this is the first ‘ralsei using fire magic’ image i've seen that i’ve liked
others make him look too shoneny
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>>575837831
They would date Tenna in real life but not Ralsei
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>chuds itt are now doing "Japan sees bridget as a boy" cope in the big 2k26
holy shit this thread really has it all
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https://youtu.be/ueUnprYL8wQ
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>>575837938
like i said, women have terrible taste and this should come as a surprise to no one
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The whole thing with Mettaton and Maddie in Deltarune makes me sad. For them, and for hikineets in general. If they existed in a different context, like the magical context of Undertale, where their will could easily be given form, where they could be the person and have the form they wanted, they could thrive. But our world isn’t like that. They just don’t fit in. They just… don’t fit in. So they lock themselves away.
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>>575837189
I found Masada on my own when I first played it and I was both spooked and delighted by the whole thing
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>>575837979
I need the dussy
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>>575837979
no, they want to fuck women they wouldn't date.
because in real life we wouldn't stick our dick in crazy.
it's the tale as old as time.
"i probably shouldn't put my dick in there.... however."

women have the "ick" but men have the "nope"
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Chud! Chud!
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>>575837853
why would you go back to talk to a shopkeeper with the appearance of other trash mobs after doing certain triggers if you werent already aware of changes
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I only just noticed Lantern is a Rude Buster arrangement
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>>575838217
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>>575838247
i like video games
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>>575838134
Ralsei is a loser
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>>575837223
It confirms that it's a simulated city inside a sterile facility

>>575837601
Ralsei will be nonbinary later on at the very least, but I do think Toby is looking for a way to fuck with the chuds now that they started acting out
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>>575838018
Can you fucking stop using that word "fave"?
Say "I like Tenna. I like TV"
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>>575838368
OK Orange
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>>575838368
women are losers
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>>575838380
can you stop saying "fave" but instead say "i have shit taste and i don't really like the character, but instead i am just really horny"?
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>>575838370
>Toby is looking for a way to fuck with the chuds now that they started acting out
Idk what would be funnier, Toby telling chuds to kill themselves in game or chuds finding random innocuous shit to feed their paranoid delusions and victim complex
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>>575837505
sure why not
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If the prophecy is inevitable then it's safe to believe that Deltarune is a retelling of a story that already happened.
It's suspicious then that Asriel is written out of the game, has no way to contact anyone in Hometown and his drawer contents are the only thing that changes between the 3 save files.
It's almost like, Asriel's choices matter but no one else's does.
Asriel isn't in the story though, because it's a story about how everyone in the story dies.
If Deltarune is like a subversion of Undertale in a lot of ways. One of then is that this time everyone's dead except for Asriel.
Additionally, the forgotten man is Asriel's therapist not Kris's. That's why Kris has no memory of ever meeting the forgotten man. We're remembering Asriel's time in therapy through Kris as a vessel.
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>>575838247
Get a load of this faggot. I bet you don't even talk to every character twice or more to see all their dialogue.
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>>575838095
It's the same cope from the same people, /v/ just moved here and can't integrate peacefully. They are what they hate and hate what they are, as they should
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>>575838095
just to to pixiv and look up bridget and check the tags people mark him with https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/145502959
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sorry for not wanting to fuck the character who wants to be used as a stepping stool and has identity issues and is lying about everything and probably has the power to change things but is too much of a spineless worm to use it, i understand why the men here find that offensive
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the strange man trend on twitter is gay and also feels artificial
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>>575838064
they wouldn’t though, someone as desperate and BPD as tenna irl also repulses women (and really everyone)
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>>575838018
tennafag im sorry that because of your sleep schedule you always end up with the worse version of utg
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>>575838654
more for me
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>>575838247
Anon, why would you not go talk to Pink after fighting her? There is a door a single screen away
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>>575838508
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>>575838148
Look on the bright side. They have Blooky and Blooky is very patient with them. It's easy to imagine a world where they're even worse off with nobody to support them.
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>>575838148
are there still people around that call dark worlds escapism or did that die after chapter 2
ive always thought that theyre representations of our collective ideas that give our lives meaning so idk how people can believe being inspired by the dark is a bad thing, especially after this chapter
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>>575838654
this is me, ralsei hits too close to home
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>>575838654
That's precisely why Ralsei is a faggot and other men run a train on him
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>>575837478
I thought the krisfag self inserters killed themselves after the chapter 5 suselle
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>>575838380
Oh, but I do like Tenna
I do love TV!
Is it really such a crime for me to invite others to favepost by using the word fave? If I posted 'I love TV' by itself that's not really encouraging others to discuss their faves if Tenna isn't theirs
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>>575838654
Hi Flowery
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>>575838807
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>>575838828
i want to bottom for ralsei though
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>>575838749
pink doesnt have the same appearance of 30 other pink mobs that respawn and you fight while progressing through the chapter
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>>575838684
Not anywhere near as repulsive as Ralsei
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I hope Ralsei gets backstabbed and betrayed and dies in a horrible undignified death
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>>575838674
The what? Go back
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>>575838902
Why is the d lowercase?
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>>575838380
Fave...
TV...
FaTVe...
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>>575838584
>bro random porn artists say he's a boy come on
the creator of the character said she's a woman now, cope harder
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>>575838485
why do you think being horny for a character means you don’t love them

>>57583864
you just brought up all the points which make him interesting
>spineless worm
this one isn’t true though, and you’d know that if you didn’t turn your brain off whenever he appeared on screen
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>>575838674
True
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why is fem chara so fucking hot...
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>>575838914
do you think the game is trying to make you agree with ralsei every time he says his life is worthless and we should just forget about him and everything we encounter throughout each chapter
ideas influence reality by making it bearable/gives it meaning but we're still anchored to it
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I caught a glimpse of how good night /utg/ is and it’s great but not great enough to sacrifice sleep for. Shit ass day /utg/ will have to do
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>>575838918
You can't
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>>575838018
>>575838691
It gets so much worse than this and you know it. Like a couple hours ago, or yesterday afternoon. This is relatively fine.
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>>575837601
I'm gaslighting myself, I give up, Transei is real, I was too afraid but now I'll just accept it with open arms and keep repeating it until I like it. In two weeks from now I'll be she/her ing Ralsei probably. The pain of it happening and me not accepting it is just too much to handle
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Fuck ralseicels
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I hate this world
I hope the next one has a Ralsei made just for me
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>>575838874
Flowery is not a hateful foid, he's a bro that only fucks with Ralsei in an attempt to bring out the chad within him.
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>>575839067
he said that to pander to the west and for no other reason. why trannies are glad to receive table scraps in this manner, i don’t know, but how lame kek. no wonder you faggots swarm mew
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>>575839086
>you just brought up all the points which make him interesting

all of the points that make him a prime bullying victim
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>>575838850
I dont think that interaction bait works
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>>575839086
the question is: how much was there to like if you weren't infuriatingly horny for him?
since all i see is faggot thirstslop, i would think the reasons to like him is actually rather few if any.
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>>575838807
Yes there are still people.

There's always people that, once they get an idea in their head any new information is warpped to fit into that idea.

Look how many people did the whole "Why would Chara make me do this?" For years after Undertale's release.
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>>575838691
I can always come here later in the day or when it's night time, figured I might as well give it a shot since it works sometimes
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omg WHO CARES
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I wonder what happens if you try to open a dark fountain outside.
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>>575839086
i don’t know how i fucked that up >>575838654
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>>575839145
if he were told to top he'd do it
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>>575838807
I’m not judging Maddie even a little bit. She deserves to be happy. She deserves to dream. Mettaton, too. It’s just too tragic… just imagine Mettaton going to the library because he’s too poor to own his own computer, and with tears in his eyes drawing his ideal form, gazing longingly at it before the crushing realization hits him that it will never be real and his dream breaks completely. Just wrong on every level
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>>575838974
??? What are you going on about? Did you think the shopkeeper was a Netskie? She has the ghost's habit of repeating things 3 times and talks about being a flower pretending to be a human. She even talks about being defined by her body (and is happy because she has one that fits her now)
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>>575838654
>is lying about everything and probably has the power to change things but is too much of a spineless worm to use it
Do people genuinely have this read on Ralsei? Are your thoughts so vapid and shallow that after everything else in the game up to now you see Ralsei throw a big fireball and your thought is "what the fuck why didn't he do that before does he hate me?" and not "wow if he didn't do that before does he know it won't change anything for the better?"
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>>575828018
Four routes, one for each character
>What Kris wants: the Twisted Sword route, the anti-escapism path where, with the power of the Pure Crystal, you purify every Dark Fountain, including Castle Town, preventing anything like Dess's disappearance from happening again but also killing Ralsei and destroying your relationship with Susie and Noelle (speculating that the Ch5 aborted weird route will let you get the ThornRing again in chapter 6 so you don't have to replay everything if you didn't abort at chapter 2)
>What Susie wants: Neutral/Violent route, where you prioritized beating enemies and as such end up not recruiting most Darkners, whatever that leads to (with extra power for the final boss if you recruited no one)
>What Ralsei wants: Pacifist route, where you prioritize ending battles peacefully and as such end up recruiting most Darkners (with extra power for the final boss if you recruited everyone)
>What Noelle wants: the Weird Route, where you gain enough power to escape Home Town altogether and figure out what the fuck is happening metanarratively

Deltarune has only one ending because you need to complete all four routes to fulfill the prophecy and unlock the "last story" a la Sonic Adventure (speculating that, since Ch5 weird route doesn't create a save file, a fourth slot will appear when chapter 7 comes out for that route specifically)
These four routes correspond to the four symbols on the Delta Rune as a hint that you have to complete all four; that is the "Delta Rune" that Gaster is waiting for.
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Kek, who is this guy so butthurt about people liking Ralsei
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>>575839460
A really, really angry tranny
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>>575839335
could say the same about you krautsie
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>>575839460
Probably sanscel
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>>575839405
my original post made the point that going back to swatch isnt intuitive because he has the appearance of a generic enemy you fight throughout the castle
theres only one gerson in undertale and one pink in chapter 5 so its obvious to think they might have more things to say after some time
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>>575839153
you're weak, you never deserved him anyway
>>575838753
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KRIS IS EVIL
KRIS IS FUCKING TRAITOR
KRIS KILLED DESS
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it’s okay i know why you guys are upset about women not being into ralsei cause you’re insecure i understand let’s use this as an opportunity to become cool and confident and awesome together (just like ralsei’s character arc)
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I want sentient clothing. Who wants to be turned into a living cloak for me?
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>>575839312
>he said that to pander to the west and for no other reason
I'm sure you have an insider ear on Daisuke and aren't just coping that the pro-LGBT creator did pro-LGBT things
>why trannies are glad to receive table scraps in this manner
Fags like you are the ones scrambling to deny when media blatantly tells you the character is trans because you care so deeply about girly boys
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*puts on my best seductive voice* Flowery, I want to rub ja...
>My what?
Ja-belly!
>It's all yours!
*Flowery giggles cutely while my sweaty and thick jointed fingers grasp his squishy belly*

Thanks for reading! ^_^
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>>575839585
>KRIS KILLED DESS
I see the "Kris stabbed Dess to death with a knife" theory from yesterday is making rounds
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>>575839379
literally the roaring.
the earth is covered in darkners because there is nothing left to enclose it.
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>>575839607
It's about Ralsei manning up instead of trooning out
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While we're on the subject of Ralsei, I haven't really seen anyone talk about how in chapter 4 Ralsei had that heart-to-heart with Susie like "I'm sorry for hiding info from you, I was just trying to protect you, from now on I'll be fully honest!!!", but then in chapter 5 he's STILL just withholding information from her.
The only reason he started to explain the menu/UI elements is because Susie and Flowery backed him into a corner, he knows that Kris is responsible for opening the fountains but is just keeping that from Susie too, arguably the main reason he hates Flowery as much as he does is because Flowery isn't following "the rules", etc. Susie is going to crash out so hard when she realizes that not only is Kris a FUCKING TRAITOR(tm) but also Ralsei's been covering for them this whole time.
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>>575839356
ok. I'm usually in utg during the night too but I took off work today because of an injury
>>575839402
I like this image. saved
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>>575839579
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>>575839335
…are you addressing ralsei or tennafags here
regardless, good discussion happens for ralsei at least. just the other day people were talking about all the possible bible references in his arc. i don’t pay too much attention to what tenna posters post (my eyes normally glaze over anything that isn’t about characters or theories i like) but i assume they discuss more than how fat tenna's ass is
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i have trouble viewing orange as a girl
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>>575839607
its fine if people arent into ralsei, i just dont understand how someone can be outright repulsed by him

If i found someone like Ralsei id never let go, hes cute and deserves protection <: i dont see how people can view him as malicious
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>>575839723
the what?
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>>575839446
The story needs to give a very very very good reason to justify why he thinks it's not worth trying and I'm still waiting for that reason
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>>575839607
upset? I find it wonderful
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im gonna be honest i wrote that post for (You)s and i actually don't like ralsei because his sprites are ugly
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>>575838654
>spineless worm
He isn't spineless imo, he is a true believer of his way of doing things. And not only that he will not explain himself why he does think so.
>>575839446
Would make fun gang life easier against the titan and the titan, zero reason for not using the fireballs.
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>>575839790
Susie explaining her colorblindness to Kris:
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>>575838850
Your way of thinking is pure and I approve of your message tennywinner.
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>>575839756
Easy: Ralsei is a bad person
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>>575839542
>literally the least sexy thing since faggotry was invented
>some hypsersexualized retard projects his hyperhorniness over the least sexable monster in the entire underground.

the fuck you on about gooner?
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>>575839723
I forced that meme earlier, but it's nice that we got another brainrot meme to slander Krks
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we should dox chuds on discord
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>>575839864
True
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>>575839681
yes i do daisuke told me all about it
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>>575839756
It's okay Ralsei placed a Controle Crowne on Susie while she slept so they'll just speedrun the prophecy now with Susie in a lobotomy-like state until the end.
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>>575839797
Oh boy, you're in for a treat.
https://youtu.be/5J8PGzSsU_Q
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>>575839796
It's almost always either severe autism or bad bait.
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>>575839756
chapter 5 was fucked up and continued so little of the themes and character development chapters 4-2 had
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>>575839756
Chapter 4 isn't canon, it was just a dream Kris had
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I hope Kris actively kills someone in the next chapter. Drives their sword straight through someone's chest and skewers them into hell. Backstabs another character and twists the blade as we see the metaphorical light leave their pixel eyes. I don't care exactly how it goes down, as long as it's Kris killing of their own accord. I just want them to have blood on their hands and see their LV go up. Just theirs, no one else's. No one to scapegoat. A kill entirely their own. I love Kris by the way
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>>575839332
It does and can encourage pleasant posts sometimes if I get lucky
But today is not one of those days... it was worth trying
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>>575839805
I imagine it has something to do with "everything falling apart" if Ralsei doesn't play his role. I trust that he and Kris know that Ralsei blasting everything away with flames won't help them make happen what they want to make happen.
>>575839824
>Would make fun gang life easier against the titan and the titan, zero reason for not using the fireballs
Did you actually play that fight? Do you remember how they beat the Titan? It wasn't through brute force.
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>>575839998
I like the idea Kris straight up killed Dess for some reason, but the idea that Kris is just an idiot baby running around with knives who didn't realize at the time what killing meant is a little silly
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https://youtu.be/gpr-l4_SwTU
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Ralsei's kinda cute, but he's too flip-floppety for my liking
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>>575839756
chapter 5 was originally supposed to take place before chapter 4 and toby did a shit job rewriting it after switching them around
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I hope Kris loses something next chapter.
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we should dox trannies, niggers and faggots
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>>575839756
Id forgive ralsei no matter what cause he obviously has good intentions but is just extremely retarded about them (this describes alot of UTDR characters)

Also he's hot when crying and you could get him to cry any time you confront him about it
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toby is disappointed in how deltarune turned out and already planning a remake 10 years from now btw
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>>575840167
where do you live?
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>>575839774
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>>575839991
but susie isn't disc shaped...
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>>575840112
>Did you actually play that fight? Do you remember how they beat the Titan? It wasn't through brute force.
They break its armor before doing that.
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>>575840162
i hope friends are revealed to definitely be feral quadrupedal cats so no one ever draws this fucking thing again
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>>575839805
he is scared of the player and he knows if we knew he could use fireshock we would take him down a weird route. or he’s a titan (or a boss monster? or something) and he knows if he cuts loose he’s gonna go evil
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>>575840115
I'm going to be honest, there's something off about how guilt-ridden Kris is, and the sink thing
>You can never wash it all away
But I don't think Toby Fox will have Kris fucking stab Dess to death, this isn't Deltarune
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>>575840220
Washington DC
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>>575839941
You can just check kiwi farms for their blog posts they do it in basically every thread every day now
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>>575840220
1600 Penn. Ave., Zoosmell Pooplord
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>>575840292
>quadruped
You're a bit low on the estimated number of limbs there
Nobody actually thinks they're going to be anime catgirls you dunce
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>>575840292
I'm not sure what mechanism you envision that stops this version from being drawn
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>>575840261
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>>575840292
why are you mad
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>>575840323
aha i get that reference!
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people forget ralsei knows what’s going to happen even if he doesn’t get how it’s going to happen and they get mad that he didn’t firekillexplode the titan as if he wasn’t aware they were going to win with or without his magic
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>>575840292
What are you, racist or somethin? Can't handle a black woman being popular?
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What if you brought a bomb to the Dark World to do epic bomb stuff but it turned into Bomby the Bomb the quirky Darkner could you still blow it up
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>>575840115
It's also a narrative cop-out. Part of what makes the potential of Kris being responsible for Dess's disappearance interesting is the thinking what would drive Kris into doing it.

Was Dess abusive? Did Kris lash out? If it's just "baby Kris didn't know the difference between play fighting and real fighting" then it removes the moral intrigue from the event.
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Mettaton and Maddie and the Flowers are all so very tragic. “No one can choose who they are in this world.” “Your choices don’t matter.” The weight of the world is crushing down upon them. These words are like a curse. In another time and place, under different rules, we’ve literally SEEN how happy someone like Mettaton becomes. It’s not right.
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>>575840313
Who?
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pEEEEnis
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>>575840529
ok
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Are there any girls who self insert as FemKris.
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>>575840606
You don’t feel the same way?
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>>575840167
leave blacks and gays alone
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>>575840448
Dude Asgore probably didn't charge her cause he saw she was Kris's friend. Or like with the free food, the town purchased the flowers and people are just allowed to take them.
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>>575839681
To Japanese he's otoko no ko (crossdressing boy/trap). To Western players he's a transgender woman. Everyone's happy.
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>>575840529
Why do you type like that. What are you trying to do.
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Ralsei is a control freak with a superiority complex just because he has knowledge and feels morality righteous.
He's so up his ass he doesn't trust his friends being helpful.
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>>575839756
>it's another autistic who thinks the point of that scene was Ralsei saying "I'm going to exposition dump everything to you as soon as possible" and not "Susie and Ralsei resolve to trust each other more"
>autist ignores Ralsei begins to tell Susie about the nature of the subconscious menus as soon as she asks
>autist can't comprehend the difference in severity between this and the old man situation
>also didn't pick up on the post hot springs flower discussion either
Many many such cases
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I think we moved on from this cute version of Friend way too quickly. She's cute, and the way she preys on Kris, hunting him down...
Wünderbar...
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>>575840662
I really thought that was Sans for a moment there
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>>575840775
Tenna when Spamton shows him a computer:
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>>575840775
Like what? All I did was express something the game makes me feel.
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>>575839446
He does hide it from the act menu because he doesn't trust us. He wasn't there to hide Noelle's spells, and it's why we had access to the WR
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>>575840785
this would be really hot if it were true
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>>575840813
same, that's a corpse hand
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>>575840785
Not sure if autism or bait
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>>575840662
If toby turns toriel into a divorcee single-mother faggot, i will start the fucking roaring.
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>>575840787
it’s not that he’s autistic it’s just that something about ralsei lowers the ability to parse text
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>>575840804
that's just another mewmew and we already have two
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>>575840265
Okay? Do you think Ralsei's fire is somehow strong enough to stop the titan from healing or it would have given Susie her idea sooner because it blew up a shuriken?
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ralsei isn't transgender because a) there's like two bits of dialogue in the whole game that imply that he's a troon (the princess scene does not imply transness, if you think it does you're a trender sneed and should detrans asap) b) if he was repping bc prophecy he wouldn't wear the ribbon in chapter 1 and there are no other reasons for him to rep c) the timing for him to come out during the main story has already passed, it could really only happen during a credits scene d) him being trans is rly pointless bc there's no conflict there. every1 in the story would just be like. Okay! and then move on. unlike with flowery where him showing his distaste for flowery created conflict between him and flowery. so it doesn't really hit for him showing his agency e) it would be awkward to have everyone change their pronouns for him after this fucking long
i might make this a video essay you saw it here first
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>>575840813
I really had to stare at the snowflake watch for a minute to realize it wasn't sans.
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>>575840804
She made the fatal mistake of being black in a tumblr game (tumblr is the whitest website on the internet)
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*picks at my nose a bit too hard, black smoke erupting from my nostril* FUCK
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>>575840787
Genuinely a lot of those "Ralsei is an EVIL LIAR" posts remind me of Mr. Enter videos where he screeches about Spongebob being a villain
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>>575840153
You know what, I can buy that. NOTHING about chapter 5 feels like it logically flows from chapter 4.
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>>575840504
Many possibilities
Kris and Dess had a disagreement and Kris was sort of justified but the consequences are too much
Dess was very fucked up, manipulative, Kris did it to protect themselves
Dess had a crazy soul merge type of idea like that one comic and made Kris do it on purpose but Kris sees now that was a terrible idea
Maybe Kris had terrible violent tendencies like Eram taunts them and overdid it against the one person that understood Kris the most
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>>575839756
Anon, Ralsei literally starts explaining something he doesn't want to to Susie in Chapter 5 and she interrupts him to say Flowery already told her about it. Ralsei doesn't know how to be honest and is scared of giving Susie the kind of information that will cause her pain. That's his character
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>>575840975
In a thread full of Ralsei trans arguments, this is still the post with THE lowest testosterone levels. Imagine not wanting to see two hot MILFs get it on with each other.
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>>575840220
4210 Wolfetown Rd, Cherokee, NC 28719.
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>>575841014
If you don't try you don't know how helpful might be, he could also tried to explode the knight's swords before hitting the floor.
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>>575841130
Susie being in denial about the prophecy and isolating herself from reality more and more I guess.
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>>575840903
>He does hide it from the act menu
Okay? He doesn't like violence and his role is to support so he provides support magic to us
>He wasn't there to hide Noelle's spells
Weird headcanon, Noelle just knows the spells she knows.
>and it's why we had access to the WR
We have access to the weird route because of kris's intrusive thoughts
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>>575841130
and if they were switched back, the festival would be on saturday and church would be on sunday
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>>575841063
Take an English class or two first.
I agree with you, but consider taking on an easier fight than the entirety of transesi believers at once.
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>>575840787
Look man I'm not saying Ralsei is evil but if your idea of "Ralsei and Susie will trust each other more!" is Ralsei going "okay Kris I know you're opening all these fountains and putting the world in jeopardy, and also depending on route may have murdered people, but I'm sure it's for a good reason so I won't tell anyone teehee ;)" idk what to tell you
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Not to sound pretentious but I wonder how literacy rates vary amongst favefags. Like to enjoy Ralsei you need to be able to parse stuff like the Brothers Karamazov well or so much of his characterization will fly over your head
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>>575841187
>you will simply watch everyone you love walk out on you, abandon love for passion and if you hate that, you are a chud

i fucking hate what time did to you.
i bet there was a time where i would have been your friend.
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>to be fair, you need to have a pretty high IQ to be a ralseifag
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>>575840153
>>575841130
This stems from 3 being complete ass, Toby recognizing that, so pushing 4 to where it was and releasing 3 and 4 together to not get backlash 3 by itself would’ve caused btw
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>>575840303
>>575840504
It also makes no sense for the themes of the game. Kris didn't kill someone violently, he abandoned them in the dark
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>>575841063
true but you type like a retard
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>>575841124
Holy fuck you're right. What did he call that shit? Crustbob or some shit? I remember there was a while wiki about it
>>575841196
>implying Ralsei doesn't already know the possibilities
you're gonna get your mind blown in 2027
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>>575841286
'vke
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>>575841286
I haven't read it but Ralsei is Alyosha right
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>>575840975
I think Toriel is a straight woman but could have sex with other women. She has a motherly and nurturing nature so naturally she wants to teach virgin women or help lonely women.
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>>575840153
>>575841130
Flowery's entire fucking plot is about the prophecy you braindead chuds
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/utg/ is hilarious
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>>575841525
Flowery's entire plot is about nothing. He's a nothing character, and chapter 5 is a nothing chapter. A waste of time.
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>>575841525
chapter 4 isn't the first time the prophecy was mentioned
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>>575841284
NTA, but Ralsei most likely knows that if he will reveal the betrayal early, shit will go off the rails. The team needs to remain functional up to a certain point, and Susie will definitely go nuclear once she finds out and will be majorly compromised. It's, among other things, an effort to try and hold the crew together just a little longer.
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>>575841284
Yes if you believe Kris or Ralsei is actually evil youre STUPID and have a SMALL BRAIN!! Clearly there are very specific actions they're trying to set up and know the price of failure and I'm sure if Susie not knowing wasn't required they wouldn't do it!! It takes two seconds to consider these things and not just go with the most basic, plain and pessimistic readings of the game's events!!
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>>575840529
>No one can choose who they are in this world.
>Your choices don't matter.

Words spoken by antagonists attempting to demoalize you. Could you imagine if people took Flowey's "kill or be killed" message at the start of Undertale as some cosmic truth? Have some faith, damn.
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>>575841130
5 is a direct thematic continuation of 4. 5’s whole “struggle against fate” idea doesn’t make any sense if it doesn’t follow 4, which establishes the idea of the total determinism of the prophecy and the idea of the inevitable final tragedy. Ralsei also goes from wanting to believe things can change… based on other people’s actions (Kris, Susie), to being willing to act himself to do what he thinks is right even if he thinks ultimately success may be impossible.
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>>575841459
An Alyosha that will break free of being an Alyosha
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>>575841502
i just wanted toriel and asgore to get back together.
shit ain't fair, man.
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>>575841413
>Crustbob
kek, I forgot about that
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>>575841187
You are talking to the most retarded anon in /utg/. Don't even bother

>>575841246
Ralsei hides more than just his act menu. He adds puzzles to the dark worlds. He probably manipulates our stats
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>>575841286
I can pretty obviously tell which favefags read books for entertainment from interacting with people without specifically talking about literature.
They are rare.
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>>575841378
>3
>complete ass
aiyo what a shit “taste”
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>>575841681
You can't explain actual literary analysis to these gremlins they can only interpret hype moments and aura and Instagram clips
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>>575840420
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>>575841187
yuricucks really believe anything
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>>575841271
I WOULD OBVIOUSLY WRITE IT BETTER IN A SCRIPT!!! DUMMY!!!
>>575841286
to be fair, you have to have a very high iq to understand ralsei and susie. the characterization is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of the brothers karamazov most of it will go over a typical viewer's head
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>>575831740
mew mew exists so toby won't get accused of transphobia when mettaton is the knight
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>>575841712
t. Kris
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>>575841831
susie was really fucking good up until 5 i don’t know what the hell toby did to her
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>>575841783
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The thing preventing me from believing Toby switched 4 and 5 is the 10th anniversary live stream where he said he believes things are only good contrasted with each other with serious moments only being serious in between joke moments and joke moments only being funny between serious moments. Having the last 3 chapters, which will probably be like 70 percent of the games total length or more, be back to back and tragic probably made him think about the structure of what he wanted to do long term before deciding it.
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>>575841413
>>implying Ralsei doesn't already know the possibilities
We don't know what Ralsei believes to be 100% accurate. But Ralsei wants us to treat what he knows and we don't as the truth even though he doesn't tell us what he knows.
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>>575841831
ralsei and *noelle, desu
i love susie but her arc and writing are very on the wall
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>>575841712
why the fuck would they get back together retard
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>>575841862
i don't need to be kris to want that.
kris deserves a home with love, not a miserable wine-aunt of a mother that fucks store clerks in a drunken stupor.
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i'm a ralyfag and i read a lot if it matters
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>>575841940
chapter 4 had to come before chapter 5 because we had to understand ralseis hangups about being a powerless NPC before we could enjoy his development in chapter 5 when contrasted by flowery
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>>575841750
Toby cut a third of the game boards due to what he called pacing issues and still acknowledged the chapter suffered a bit from it. I dont think he’s satisfied with how it turned out
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>>575841936
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anon spends 4 years earning a BA in Ralsology
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>>575841609
It's when the tragic nature of the prophecy is revealed. If Flowery was fighting just to stop the world from being saved that would be retarded. Knowing that he's fighting to stop the tragedy, too, is integral to the experience of the chapter
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>>575841956
honestly i picked susie because her name ends in -ie which sounds like the -y in morty
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>>575841836
>Mettaton is the Knight
>the "good end" for Tenna is to give to the person who killed him
I'm keeping him forever in Castle Town because you can't trust anyone in Hometown, they're all psychos and cannibals
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>>575841996
because toriel is fucking sex and asgore is desperate for her
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>>575841996
because they need to.
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>>575841943
ok and? you don’t know more than ralsei
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my wife is in this image
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>>575839618
id go mantle mode for you bestie
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>>575842068
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>>575842035
It is what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it.
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>>575841712
If they go back together, are you ready for them to have sex with other monsters so they remain happy?
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which favefags dont read books
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Knight's gonna do shit like this and people are still gonna believe it's Dess
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>>575842086
*a BAA
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>>575842339
>you get them back together but they don't get back together
your logic is flawed.
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>>575842374
FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>575842009
instead he’d get a schizophrenic negligent father that gets the family into debt uhhh
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>>575842367
mewtrannies
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>>575841130
Flowery's whole situation is a thematic mirror to the challenge the heroes are currently facing. Flowery was set up to lose, he knows this since the beginning, that the heroes will defeat him and close his fountain. That did not stop him from doing his best to fulfill his dreams and still playing his part like he meant it, and ignoring all the superfluous rules around him. He challenges their beliefs and their inconsistencies "why do you think your fountain is worth more than mine?" "is Kris a bad person if they're opening fountains"? Ultimately Flowery knows they too are bound to fate and is telling them to owe up to their own decisions and desires in life, regardless if it seems like there's no other outcome. It's why Ralsei tries to heal Flowery even if he knows it won't work, it's being true to himself to try anyway. Fighting matters, trying matters. Would you rather face your destiny as an NPC or as yourself?
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>>575842065
Board 3 was only ever going to be 2 quizzes before going to the doom board. The "pacing issues" were from the cut stealth sections
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>>575842289
i want to nurture him and nurse him back to health D: poor ralsei
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>>575842289
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>>575842367
Idk about fags but Tenna probably hates books more than flatscreens. That's a funny bit Toby would have play out if we had a big book darkner
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>>575842282
Thanks bestieeeee
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>>575842452
>negligent
you mean, divorced and completely miserably stewing on the one thing that got him into that mess.
you write like a woman.
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>>575842367
dumb doeposters
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>>575842487
He's alright, just blowing up the Castle for insurance
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>>575842294
why do you type like this man
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>>575842156
i think it's possible if you don't find him a home he'll run off on his own accord, he seems pretty depressed
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>>575842512
big ass lips
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>>575841712
why would you want that
asgore deserves better
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>>575842457
You are talking to the kind of person that thinks being an NPC is counter-culture
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>>575842632
holy shit
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>>575842512
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>>575842696
>You are talking to the kind of person that thinks being an NPC is counter-culture
tranners…
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>>575842543
anytime brochacho *nestles into your closet like a cool bat*
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Is the PetalMantle just the glass surrounding Flowery?
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>>575842457
That's not true at all, Flowery doesn't behave like someone who knows he'll lose, and in the post-fight dialogue he genuinely entertains the potential future in which he'd won. Why bring it up, if it was an impossibility?
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>>575842632
Truth nuke
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>>575842564
I mean negligent to the point where looking at a board makes kris uncomfortable.
and I didn’t write that toby did take this complaint to him
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>>575842673
everyone deserves better, but unfortunately there is no better in hometown.
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>>575842632
proving this guy right >>575841286
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>>575842623
Because it's a quote from some famous historical homo.
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>>575842240
Why should I trust Ralsei when he doesn't trust us, if he did he would explain why something is better. Susie is putting her life on the line.
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>>575842294
>>575842836
I appreciate your words, anon. Don't listen to that other fag
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It was confirmed that Ralsei is extremely powerful, and Flowery gave him the determination to act independently. A big deal!
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new thread where
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>>575842728
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I'm the type of guy who reads books to find the best appendixes
book looker
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>>575842813
pretty much anyone would be better than toriel
except maybe carol
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>>575841712
i getchu anon
theyre both flawed and, while they do deeply care about their children, ending up alone makes their flaws hundreds of time worse, since in a way, they compliment each other
i mean they were married for a reason (aside both being boss monsters): toriel was the strict one while asgore was the more lax and carefree one. their divorce in both universes happens because of something tragically devastating that would burden any other person in their shoes, too. while they werent perfect i still think that in an universe with no gaster bullshit or hopeless as the ut one is they could've been an happy family with asriel and kris/chara
yes i'm coping
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>>575842952
Tenna ate the bread, he's on a bulk sorry
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>>575843001
toby would make a book looker who sits in the library and reads titles all day
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>>575842936
Flowery gave him the kick in the ass, but it was actually Susie who accidentally got him to ACT without our say so and use his fire for the first time
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>>575843024
asgore likes carol
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>>575842936
>to act independently
He always did that tho'. He has some autistic self imposed rules but it's what he wanted.
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>>575842936
fuck flowery
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>>575843118
Asgore likes everyone
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>>575838684
This is why I believe it when some say BPD is actually even amongst men and women. When men BPD out noone cares everyone runs. But people will put up with a woman’s bullshit if shes cute. This is why tenna yaoi makes sense btw
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>>575842936
yeah but anons here believe in "show don't tell" so until it happens it will not be acknowledged
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>>575843118
yeah now that i think about it more i retract that statement
literally anyone would be better for asgore than toriel
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>>575842638
Run with what, his legs? He's NEVER getting out.
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>No anchor this thread
Who is responsible.
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>>575843001
>>575843106
Sometimes I do this,,,
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>>575843114
ralsei first used his fire magic in chapter 4
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I'm tweaking out
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>>575842367
Theres no reason to read when theres no reason to live
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>>575837831
two-ton tenna the tv man
crushes foids with his hands
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>>575843198
BPD in men is much more difficult to diagnose because they usually don't get into situations they ask for help and have the opportunity to be diagnosed
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>>575843198
>When men BPD out noone cares everyone runs.
and that’s why it’s straight up oversville for me
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>>575843198
When berdfag let his insane BPD brain run free it cost him his entire IRL friend group and made /utg/ very aware of what he does online and it wasn't pretty to see.
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>>575843274
Toriel wasn’t the problem in the relationship it was Asgore going schizo
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>>575843286
>artfag mad it cannot attentionwhore
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>>575843335
old woman moe
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>>575843198
men with BPD tend to be alcoholics and drug addicts, which makes diagnosing the core issue difficult
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>>575841895
>i don’t know what the hell toby did to her
Pushing aside the obvious thatll turn this into shipping discourse specifically, it's because if the story had a natural pace Chapter 5 would not have been a fun adventure, it was time for things to get serious and for some actual genuine progress to start being made, but Toby didnt want that. Susie is literally the only character who can push the plot anywhere that isnt an early bad ending, so he had to muzzle her to be infinitely retarded and thinking about anything that isnt the main plot. She is no longer the person breaking rules and pushing the story along of her own will, she's been stringed up like any other puppet in this story
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>>575843326
Well, yes, but not as an attack and not by his own will
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>>575843498
>>575843498
>>575843498
Hop on
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>>575843425
No you FAGGOT, I wanna SAVE IT. At least fucking get it right
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>>575843361
>>575843442
what should a man do then if he suspects he has BPD or at least heavy BPD tendencies, should he actually find a therapist again and lead in this time with the stuff that feels like it indicates this, asked tenna
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This was an extremely big Chapter for Susie. Why are we pretending otherwise? She’s as true to herself and her feelings as ever.
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>>575843274
>you return to the closet to find a tv hanging from its own power cord from the light fitting
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>>575843598
Become a shaolin monk and get accustomed to the lack of people in your life so you won't be tempted to leech off anyone
Said Guei
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>>575843473
It's really a shame. I would've understood this development more if there were more hints that she was trying to suppress everything that happened the chapter prior and that's why she's suddenly so complacent, but unless Chapter 6 recontextualizes this Susie just acts like she's lobotomized for plot purposes. Doesn't feel natural at all.
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>>575843865
yeah im really thinking about this one. but id probably want to jump off a cliff after 1 week
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>>575843389
If he was a woman he would have gone through 7 boyfriends instead me bets
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>>575842156
Tenna knows Noelle, he's directly talked to Kris off screen and already showed us once he's willing to say things Kris doesnt want him to say if backed into a corner.
Either keeping him until we get Noelle will give us an edge, or Kris is getting rid of him offscreen before chapter 6 like what happened to onionsan because fuck you for thinking you could get anyone to spill anything the script doesnt want you hearing
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>>575843598
what makes you think you have BPD?
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>>575840448
why are germans so stupid
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>>575844512
because when i do get the opportunity to fall in love (rare because im probably repulsive or something even though im obsessed with romance and intimacy) i get super obsessed with them and our relationship and i get clingy and paranoid about if the person will stop loving me, if they’re upset with me, etc and i have to suppress these feelings all the time if even one thing feels a little off. which i can be pretty successful at actually like i haven’t ever been explosive or done bpd stuff like splitting on someone which is why i say maybe they’re just tendencies or im just anxiously attached/codependent or whatever but i still fail sometimes or give off the energy and it’s enough to still ruin my life and push people away
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>>575845223
is "being afraid of getting hurt" supposed to be a diagnosable mental disorder now
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>>575845223
splitting, a lack of identity, and suicidal tendencies are the hallmarks of bpd, the tendencies you're describing can be attributed to many different things
therapy could help you, don't give up on yourself
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>>575845414
it’s extreme though like it will ruin my whole day obsessing over it and make me sick to my stomach with anxiety
and i think whether i realize it or not it causes me to become a burden on the other person like they can feel it or i end up needing too much validation or something and it weighs on them like having to be a caretaker all the time

>>575845667
thanks, it’s hard right now but i could consider getting therapy again somehow
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>>575845818
have you tried self-hatred
i used to be afraid of getting hurt until i started hating myself so much i stopped caring if i got hurt
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>>575845818
yeah that sounds more like codependence than bpd to me
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>>575846113
i already hate myself deep down i think that’s a lot of why it’s so bad, this one doesn’t seem like an option
the desire for love just outweighs my self esteem problem
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>>575846456
okay yeah probably
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>>575846503
>>575846651
if you choose therapy, you'll be challenged to accept you are a lovable person and to have more faith in your friends and loved ones
you can do it anon
said fave underrune
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>>575847791
well i already know i have to do that and i try when i can even if it’s hard. or i want to try. im sure therapy wouldn’t hurt for that too though. so thanks fave
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>>575834129
More like your ass, lol got em



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