Cadia Stands Edition>Previous>>575809554>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien bugs, bots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSJul 14 Lightning Intercept https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7TqsET5yHMJul 23 Supply FRV full rollout https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/680756051157452526Jul 28 Permanent Enclosure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afl_8m6Zl_EAug 12 Castellan's Creed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-j-SpRxhHo>LATEST PATCHESJun 16 1.006.300 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/676249280988579951Jul 07 1.006.301 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/696516748689543612
halo won BIGLY
The armour kinda sucks
this game is ass
kill yourself
If you think this passive is bad, you are brown. You are room temperature IQ.
>>575842138We dont even know what it does.
>>575842213Yes we do.
>>575842138I have no opinion on it as I will not be using it.
>>575842259Okay, wise guy. Tell us.
>>575842138I don't really care about buffing weapons. If a weapon is good, it doesn't need an armor passive.
>>575842213We literally do though?>+20% weapon handling>+30% faster support weapon reload speedIt just outright improves the sluggish handling and slow reload speeds of your Recoilless, your Airburst, your HMG etc.
>>575842138I admire your hopium
>>575842138>useless for EAT GODSI guess backpack sissies deserve something good every once in a while
>>575842413>Source: I made it up
>>575842138passive looks solid ive been wanting a new passive with ergo buff for a whilei mod my shit so i dont care if it looks like plastic
>>575842413>>+20% weapon handlingehrm actually, it gives 20 points of ergonomics+20% would amount to very little
>>575842493I carry a recoiless, eats, equalizer and commando for bot missions. Sometimes I swap the recoilless out for a hell bomb to deal with the annoying jammers.Anyways, murder violently all heavy units and if the first equalizer missed then its a great thing I get another in 120 seconds
>>575842138Nobody thinks it will be bad, the argument is that it will be more than simply situational, like every other passive. No increased survivability, no improved mobility, does nothing for your primary weapon or supplies.
>>575842525https://www.ign.com/articles/helldivers-2-x-warhammer-40000-castellans-creed-legendary-warbond-fully-revealed-weapons-and-armor-shown-off-release-date-confirmed
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>>575842138>ErgoConsole pleb crutch >Support reloadHoly skill issue these weapons 1 shot everything so the only reason you need a fast reload is if you missed
>>575842707if you want increased survivability you equip the heavy one
>>575842830>Holy skill issue these weapons 1 shot everything so the only reason you need a fast reload is if you missedHey, maybe stop playing on D4 yeah. See, on D10, when enemy reinforcements are called, there's usually like ten heavy enemies at any given time.
>>575842138StalwartGAWDS, we are so fucking back.
>>575842707>survivability>mobilityNeither gets improved by significant amountsAt best you'll be immune to a single type of elemental damage, or go slightly faster, but you can evade all attacks regardless if you're wearing light oxy or regular heavy>primary weaponOnly good for chaff clearing>suppliesJust resupply
>>575842525everybody point and laugh at this retard
>>575842830>PC players don't benefit from better ergo???Nigger we benefit more, crap ergo becomes far less detrimental with slower turn speeds like on consoles.
I fucking hate the passive, this is insane and a best in slot for so many different support weapons.>>575842707Reloads and handling are the least situational bonuses possible. You benefit when firing your gun at things (firing your gun at things is good). Survivability is the situational one, only helps when you are gettting hurt - guess what, you shouldn't be getting hurt in the first place.
>>575843167What the fuck is that second armor? I can't be the only one that thinks it looks like shit
>>575843167Got you to post it for me. I won
Microtransaction goyslop is not content. Stop being paypiggies.
>EYES OUT FOR JULY 30TH HELLDIVERS>its just an announcementfucking lmaoslopbond of the year award
>>575843221>Survivability is the situational one, only helps when you are gettting hurt - guess what, you shouldn't be getting hurt in the first place.Yeah, why do they even drop us with stims? Waste of a slot really.
>>575843192he plays d3 so all of the enemies fit in his FOV and he doesn't need to flick his aim
ngl the armour just reminds me of this
>>575843457Nothing else to fill the slot with.
>>575843476If you are getting flanked enough than you need high ergo to react on ANY difficulty you need to uninstall.
>>575843404Warbonds are content. You have my permission to dilate and respond to me with your mental gymnastics. Proceed.
>>575842707>No increased survivabilityReduced time reloading and increased handling means less time being vulnerable.>no improved mobilityLess time in vulnerable states, like reloading or aiming, means more time to keep moving>does nothing for your primary weapon or supplies.Aiming better means less missed shots. Less missed shots means a more viable supply of ammo.
>>575843524Right, if they let us put anything there instead, that's what I would do. I never use stims on my ops and anyone who does is a retard really.
>Another useless marksman riflelmaoroflmao even
>>575842707>reloading>ergo>situationalare you legitimately fucking retarded or something?
>>575843167What's the difference between weapon handling and ergonomics?
>The armour that makes you look obese
collab looks like shit. how do you not put space marines and chainswords in this are they retarded
>another useless marksman rifle>another DOG grenade>another support weapon that has no place>another mid armor with SHIT passive>1(uno) sidearm with maybe actually usable stats >more green paint on your vehicles.1500 sc please saar
>>575843675Since it's an energy weapon, I would assume it's infinite ammo with the heat mechanic. If that's the case then it's just a primary slot Talon.
>>575843653That's just like, your opinion dude. Doesn't change the fact survivability from getting hit is a lot more 'situational' than just shooting your gun stronger. Creating something as busted as stims is near impossible and is not comparable to mild damage reduction offered by armor. Shit fucking hypothetical that has nothing to do with the problem at hand.
>>57584399340k lasguns don't have infinite ammo and reload like any other box magazine weapon
>>57584399399% chance it has ammo,GW is anal about stuff like that.
>>575843921>space marinesI'm afraid you are retarded>>575843993Lasguns don't have heat mechanics in 40k in the way you are thinking, this one won't either
>>575843993Anon. It uses disposable batteries, not heatsinks.
>>575843851obese AND disabledsweden my beloved please cleanse this country-sized tumor with the warmth of a nuclear strike
So what is a "melta gun"? What makes it different from a regular flamer? We kind of already have a support flamer, a support flamer that is outclassed by the backpack version.
>>575843921Chainswords, power swords and basic bitch las rifles which you can customize would have been better than this.In fact fuck it, just add a bolter and a dreadnought skin for the walker.
>>575844256My guess will be less crowd control than a flamethrower and a shitload of damage vs armor. Even with the backpack flamethrower it still takes like 10 seconds of direct fire to kill a bile titan
>>575842093team reloading this.
>Left: Corpo slop from a bunch of tourists that don't know what a psyker is>Right: Someone that actually wanted a faithful recreation and is an fan of the setting
>burning through 2 thread in less than 12 hoursalive game alive thread>>575842138no one is saying this retard kun
>>575842707>does nothing for your primary weapon+20 ergo applies to all your weapons, not just support weaponsalso support weapons are the weapons with the longest reloads and the ones were reloading is most important so a reloading bonus benefits them the most
Thank God no one gives a shit about what you faggots think looks good
>>575844462right doesn't fit with the artstyle at all
>>575843851>DAY IN THE LIFE OF A TRUE HEAVY ARMOR GEEZA>WAKE UP AND MEET THE WAIFU EAGLE-1>MY LITTLE PRINCESS (THERMITE), ISN'T SHE BYOOTIFUL?>TIME TO TAKE G1 TO THE SAM SITE>REV UP THE FRV WHEYYY>QUICK STOP AT A POI AND LOAD UP THOSE SAMPLES>GET A MEDKIT>WARZONE LOOKING LOVELY TODAY LADS>JUST A BIT'O'BANTER (NAPALM BARRAGE)>SUPER CREDITS MAKE A 20-DEATH STREAK BETTER>POP DOWN LOCAL MG EMPLACEMENT>GOOD OL' HORDE MULCHING LOOK AT THAT>G1 GAVE ME A RESUPPLY, LOVELY>POP DOWN HAVE A COUPLE OF STRATAGEM SPAM WITH THE LADS>AND FINISH UP AT THE FORTRESS OF DREAMS (PELICAN-1)
>>575844480
>WHOA! ANOTHER MAJOR WIN FOR ARROWHEAD!>SUCH KINO>MOST BASED>WERE BACK CHAT
I think ergo should be tied to reload speed anyways it just makes sense the faster you can sling your rifle around the faster you should be able to put a magazine in this distinction is retarded i thought this was a gritty grunt fantasy simulator
>>575843986He would be able to keep up with the lemons if he didn't waste so much time filling the jugs with piss.
>>575844107Survivability is good, I just don't like when people pretend like they never get hit or it's all "skill" when this is a chaotic as fuck game with plenty of random nonsense and bullshit, not to mention just even your own squad mates or who knows what (uh oh, looks like some moron dropped an MG turret behind you again). Living is good, having more chances to juice yourself and just keep fighting is good and not situational. Running around with a supply pack and good armor is a readily acknowledged way to just live through anything because you never run out of health or bullets. The difference between armor tiers is readily apparent to anyone familiar with the game and 150 armor is noticeably better than 100, hell the difference with blast padding is extremely noticeable vs. bots.
Games workshop will always be a dogahit company ran by literal inbred retards.
>>575844256You know how sticking your head in a microwave is a bad idea? Imagine that but as a gun and given 1.21 niggawatts of power. A very powerful but short ranged armor piercing beam of radiation.
>>575844256>So what is a "melta gun"? What makes it different from a regular flamer?It shoots condensed superheated plasma. Basically the surface of the sun.
>>575844480>alive threadSorry to tell you but that's just me spamming bait
>>575844256metlaguns are nuclear fusion cutting torches
>>575844690I think this is squarely on arrowhead I doubt goy workshop put a gun to their head and told them to add the most useless and retarded weapon type for their new warbond even darktide has cool weapons like the recon lasgun that spits beams and can set shit on fire with the right perks
>>575844462 just need more edges and grime
>>575844790spam lobbies instead
>>575844462>"Johannesen, wë do naught have the timmen to finish da armoür, da chest and shouldars are not of the donnen">"Ship it, Sven, da göycattle won't know da difference"
I'm so happy that arrowhead has taken months to give me the privilege to spend more money on little guns that barely move the needle in terms of gameplay. Shooting with a slightly different gun is so thrilling and really spices up the game! This is the "content" I am so excited for!
>>575844838Yeah this is definitely their grunt fantasy autism at work, no fun weapons allowed.
>>575844113>>575844115>>575844117>>575844235I know that, but lasgun batteries also have an insanely high capacity. Even a Hotshot should be getting something like 50 shots on a single battery pack. For a marksman rifle with no recoil that's insanely OP.
>>575844980I can't tell you *exactly* what arrowhead will do besides it not being a heat mechanic.
BugGODS are winning all defenses and even captured Darius under Joel's nose. Squidsissies can't even win one single defense for months on end. HOW EMBARRASSING!
>>575844256Melta is functionally super plasma. Think of it like a death ray that burns through anything but doesn't have much range.
>>575844980Lasguns do have recoil. Or don't I don't even know where goy workshop stands on this they keep flip flopping but in darktide they do have recoil
>>575844668Ok but you shouldn't talk about passives being 'situational' while praising other passives that are actually more situational.Additional protection is good for saving your ass but it won't really change much how you play, you'll be avoiding getting hit all the same. This is unlike the new passive which just lets you put out more fire, faster, makes you overall more lethal whether you are getting hit or not
>>575845187I mean, it could have both ammo and heat. Maybe even overheating it causes it to explode. You could play it off as the machine spirit getting pissed off.
>>575843851prosthetic really ruins it
>>575844980Lexucanum says a long-las with a hot shot power pack only gets 20 discharges.
Maybe the good weapons will be superstore only
>>575845385That's just excessive nonsense, no thank you.>>575845340I'm not the same anon who made that first statement, but here's my take:If a weapon is good it doesn't need the armor passive. So for me, it's situational because why bother.I already use weapons that I don't need any bonuses for, so yeah, this passive is not exactly ground breaking for me. Like people keep bringing up Heavy AT reload time, but honestly, usually the cap for me is just running out of ammo, not the timing on my shots. I use the recoiless, spear, and airburst launcher a lot.
Collab shit is creatively bankrupt. Hard pass on this crap like the other shitty collab warbonds.
>>575845305The canon I remember was that they originally had no recoil, but soldiers complained about that so they added a solenoid or something to give it the same kick/haptic feedback they expected from their guns.>>575845454That's still a lot more than its peers.
>>575843851so obese that one leg shattered from the knee down
watch arrowhead give the bolt pistol medium armor pen
>>575845705"Need" "doesn't need" bullshit fucking framing. Fuck off. You could get by with an armor that has no passive at all. This doesn't change the fact this one massively buffs almost any support weapon and makes in an extra easy pick that others can't compete with at all for few of them.>situational because why bother.That's not situational means. Situational means it rarely comes in handy. Reloading and aiming are things you do all the time. And if you are running out of shots that means you should be calling the supplies more often.
Which heavy armor are the best looking?
There's been a huge delay between warbonds. So long, that players will have banked a lot of SC from normal gameplay. I imagine that a large majority of players will be buying the 40k bond with "free" SC and arrowhead will make little money from this.
>>575846502counterpoint: it's fucking ugly
>>575844604agreed, i said this in the previous thread when the retard posted it originally too
IDK man, I still prefer having more grenades and lower recoil over better ergo and faster reload
>Spore burst strainI shant
I wish they'd reveal the stats for the guns already. I also wish they released it already. We're already in a three month content draught and they're asking us to wait two more weeks.
>>575846598Marksman with B-01 helmet of choice or SA-25Grenadier with Champion of the People helmetSalamander with recent campaign helmet or pissdiver B-01 or SA-25
When is the big warbond rework is coming? Cause at the very least the # of medals required for older warbonds should be lowered slightly.Seriously odd that a diff10 mission only gives like 9-12 medals
SporeKINO is back on the menu sire
>>575845197>weighs in on the lore accurate function of melta>while basing it off darktide's lore inaccurate plasmalol
>>575846502>Reloading and aiming are things you do all the time.The real measure would be if the passive is changing my "aiming and reloading" in a way that actually makes me compete missions faster or more efficiently. Just because it's there doesn't mean much. I'm not saying it couldn't matter, but it's not going to be "constantly" mattering. Also, this is a loadout dependent armor passive. Nothing wrong with that, but that does mean sometimes it will just not be relevant. Running with solid to good ergo weapons? Using a support weapon where reloading is not a significant factor at all? Not a good armor to be running obviously.Meanwhile if I throw on my default helldiver gear, it's relevant no matter what my loadout is. > And if you are running out of shots that means you should be calling the supplies more often.Yes sure, and I do, but it also means I'm just killing everything already and the cap is more supplies, not reloading or aiming faster.
>>575846598For me it's the Beast of Prey one
>>575846942yep, should have had the trailer and the launch today. no one is going to stay hyped up for the warbond now that it's already let people down. AH lost any impulse buying opportunity because people will sit around for 2 weeks looking at it and realizing it's not great or worth it
>>575844604>artstyleNigga what artstyle?it changes every fuckin warbond you mong
>>575846818If nothing else it's a straight upgrade over the retarded jungle armor. Ergo + Reload speed beats Ergo + Melee damage any day of the week.This thing might be meta on squids because it makes MGs fuck even harder there
>>575846598Kodiak and Winter Warrior
lets fucking go new warbond and weapons!>jump into a game>oh, same enemies, same missions, nothing new for 4+ months
I want thermobaric explosives. We already have city maps so I don't see why they wouldn't add them to the game.
IE Armor should have the same damage and blast radius as the leveller
>>575847324two more weeks, trust ze plan
Pred bugs need a new unit or the hulk surge treatmeant. I haven't even seen them on the map in weeks, and even if they did come back their primary gimmick of being fast is completely mogged by spore bugs.
>>575847154Based colonial marine
Could not load the ship at the end gg
>>575846868Lower the difficulty
>>575847447>NEAT
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>hotshot lasgun fires the piddly little "pew pew" bullet projectiles that nu-GW is mandatingI knew it was gonna happen but I was disappointed anyway
I wanted the lasers to be blue :(
>>575847137It will let you clean up any larger amount of heavies faster so will come in clutch in harder missions like flags or probes, these always have something for you to shoot at and ammo is NOT a constraint, that's not real. if you have no heavies to shoot at it still lets you reload faster and go back to firing a primary. Otherwise lets you keep going faster because you spend less time in place reloading a gun. The only armor that could improve speedrunning more is oxygenator but it's mogged by FRV anyway if you really want that.Again it's not loadout dependant unless you aren't running a weapon at all. Faster reload is great on all weapons especially on bugs where when you aren't shooting enemies get closer and closer. This helps you not lose ground. Helps even with Stalwart.And you aren't killing 'everything' during any larger enemy breach or one of these 'defensive' objectives.
>>575845196You might want to get to work on that
>>575847454ONLY THE STRONGEST WILL SURVIVE
lasers should've been the red short-lived beams from dow, but these have too much soul for nuGW
>>575847829Is this the Laser DMR we wanted? Or does it not have infinite charge to count as one?
>>575848120Probably something like>shoot 3 lasers quickly, no overheat>shoot 4 lasers, overheat
>>575844462Nigger the right is just painted like a miniature. You don't need edge lightning in game
>>575847471Yeah dude, its really the best looking armor set in the game, my second best are the siege breaker heavy armor, it looks super CHONKY, really makes you feel like you're a walking tank.
>>575847664Napalm and thermobaric are completely different. And I'd prefer grenade or grenade launcher.
>>575848116Don't care about collabslop with trash like 40kRed lasers would've been an eyesore and I'm glad they went with yellow to better match the rest of our arsenal
>>575847901Who cares about the color? The problem is they're not even lasers.Dawn of War had them red, Dawn of War 2 made them yellow, Space Marine had the chaos forces use green, Dan Abnett novels describe them as every color in the rainbow. Nobody cared. They were all depicted as shooting LASERS, though, because it's a laser gun.
Which guard unit uses that armor I don't recognize the black one
>>575844909It's sad that this is exactly what happened, and slophammer fags will eat this warbond up because they have zero standards
>>575845454Long-las are designed to pen quite heavy armor in extremely long distances (like 1-2km) so they have much less capacity than a normal lasgun which is usually around 100 shots, hotshots are about half of that because of the higher power output which is why they are usually carried with a backpack battery for much more ammo (like about 1000 shots). Long las are normal las guns but with longer barrels for better precision at long range and scopes and their power setting to the max
>>575846617All I will tell you is that I am glad I cheated SC because I would rather jump off a bridge than grind SC for these mid as fuck warbonds
>>575848026> ammo is NOT a constraintYes it is. If a armor passive gave me more support weapon ammo, I'd be very tickled by that. The Spear already got tremendously better just by increasing it's ammo by one entire shot. >Again it's not loadout dependentYes it is. You can like it, you can love it, but it is loadout dependent no matter what, because how much it matters varies wildly with the weapons you use, from great, to good, to neat, to pointless. If I'm using my liberator carbine with EATS and a heavy flamer, I do not want this armor passive at all.
>>575847772fuck off
>>575846818I don't know who this is but I want to fuck her
Melta mine and melta gun both look like garbage.
>>575848881The melta gun might be decent if it could be taken in a primary slot but as a support its dog
>>575848726
>>575848618>If I'm using my liberator carbine with EATS and a heavy flamer, I do not want this armor passive at all.If I'm using a non-mag fed support weapon, I do not give a shit about Siege Ready, it offers nothing for me. The additional ammo doesn't interact with them, and almost no primary realistically benefits from it.See how easy it is to flip the scenario?
>>575848881Meltagun could very easily be quite good and vice versa
>>575848120It's a hotshot long-las. They use batteries with limited capacity.It's basically just a regular DMR cosplaying as an energy weapon.
>>575849057There goes my blast
>>575848940>See how easy it is to flip the scenario?Correct, I don't use Siege Ready either. I'm a default armor dullard.So now that we agree that those armors are loadout dependent, we can move on.
>>575849057Pretty much, I bet they won't even make it heavy pen either so it will never get used
Do you think we're getting a normal warbond too (like with the other legendary warbonds) or we're fucked ?
>>575848460It's also EXTREMELY obvious if you look at the models for a few seconds. >both are just using the same reused base model that a few other sets have>the leg armor is complete, they have their normal maps and details applied>helmet is mostly done, looks like a first draft that didn't get refined>chest and shoulders barely got worked on, no normal mapping at all and just using the basic in-engine smooth shading
>>575849489you need more???
>>575849550The second armor looks like a literal unfinished buggy asset or some shit
>>575844462This is fucking outsourced to pajeet lol
>>575849489probably so, just like last year's ODST and dust devils 10 days l8r alongside the major content drop
What are the chance of them nuking all the accounts with suspicious amount of SC before dropping the 40k warbond?
d10 bots or bugssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244874852539/76561198122378705
>>575848618>Yes it is. But it shouldn't be. Supplies have your back in this regard. For anything that reloads and isn't sterilizer(?) it's generally best in slot and it completely dominates these guns now. You pick armor before you dive to compliment your total loadout and it will help all of these guns MASSIVELY at all times.
holy shit guys check out what's going down at the goon junction
>release Hyena>release better hyena weeks laterA live service Classic
This warband is SOVLLESS
>>5758499252/4
>>575849935>But it shouldn't be.Sometimes you shoot all the heavy AT faster than your squad (on the ball or they are slacking) and the supplies are somewhere else, just how it be. It's a shared cooldown, I don't control my squad. Not a big deal or anything, since if it's vs. bots I've got heavy AT in like every slot, but even then, there's no perfect control for whatever might come up.
the 40k armors are too flat, they need details, shading, something, giga ass otherwise
>>575850086sir this is the hellshitters general, powercreep is a good thing here
>>57584977550/50Yes or no.Simple math.
>>575850086>release verdict>release a better verdict some time latercrazy
>>575850086like the sickle and the talon the lasgun is not going to set enemies on fire
>>5758499253/4 we need (you)
>>575849775given that they can't track, let alone ban, cheaters - 0%
>>575850159sloppa....
>>575844604>muh arfstile
>>575850248>supply pack>supply FRV
>>575849925When you write bots or bugs, it always means bots, I will not buy this lie 5 times
>>575850248well if you are a splitfag shooting fabs while your team pulls enemies then you might run out of ammo but you also aren't in danger so it's just one of these inconsequential scenarios. Faster reload and ergo makes you stronger in any situation that matters i.e. against actual stream of enemies encroaching on you.Either way the ammo passive for these AT guns doesn't exist so it's another BS hypothetical
>>575849925FVLL alive game
>>575841984>primary isn't a laser weaponONEFUCKINGJOBYOUSWEDISHCUNTS
The warbond looks like shit
>>575841984>hotshotDon’t know what to expect, it does punch through voteless so possibly good DMR/battle rifle use>bolt pistolI think it’s gonna have the explosive payload of the BFGL maybe less, hopefully it can pop fabricators and plug buttholes >meltagunIt can take out hulks and striders, God willing it be AT1 and wont get nerfed >meltamine I haven't used thermite since getting giga grenades but these seem useful>armor More useful than peak physique because melee sucks but it has me worried the weapons got bad ergonomics Seems like a good warbond and fucking hell it’s gonna be 106 days from exo experts to 40k
>>575851237this time it's entirely on GW. it's their retarded crusade to make lasguns look lame and gay
>>575851158not my fucking fault you niggers always choose bots
>>575851237Not even swedens fault this time, you can squarely blame GW for this one
>>575851158yeah it's bots today
>>575851237>>primary isn't a laser weaponIt is a laser weapon. GW is hard mandating that all las weapons in 40K fire yellow bolts akin to tracers.
>>575850884How is a supply pack relevant to my recoiless or spear? >supply FRVNot even a standardized stratagem yet.And now we are talking slamming in stratagems slots to help something, which is like great and all, yeah you can choose to use those instead of others.I know how to play the game anon, I'm sorry that the reality of ammo existing is apparently upsetting or confusing. >>575851193>well if you are a splitfag shooting fabsI'm just playing the game with randos anon, shit happens. >Either way the ammo passive for these AT guns doesn't exist so it's another BS hypotheticalYeah obviously, just saying it would be neat if it existed and be more relevant to what I want. Fucking imagine a more Support weapon ammo and more grenades passive, that would be bonkers.
>Meltagun doesnt cause confusion because Arrowhead thinks being blasted with a beam of super-heated plasma wouldn't cause anyone to panic
>>575844604The artstyle was abandoned before the first year ended.
Why does GW insist on these ugly ass yellow bolts instead of based pulse lasers?
>>575851565wrong picture
>>575851818They don't have that in the swedish military, please understand
>>575850736Cant do hats, bwo
>>575851818>headcanon>smug ugly sims fortpedo image
>>575851942gonna cry?
>>575851818>shotguns don't have confusion becuase Arrowhead doesn't think being penetrated with buckshot would cause anyone to paniclike omg
what's with all the tranime spam? does 40k really make troons piss and shit themselves this badly?
>>575852057>Ignoring how shotguns make enemies stagger
>>575849775They would have done it already
>>575851897pulsed lasers linger for too long, they're impractical on a battlefield and block the sight of the shooters. They're simply too unrealistic for 40k.
>>575852251>They're simply too unrealistic for 40k.heh
Are you entertained yet?
I LOVE crossovers!So based!Were so back!Arrowhead is chad!
>>575852384>Implying crossovers are a zoomer thing
>QP >Evacuate assets>Faggot host kills me with his turrent so I blow him up and quit>QP again it's another evacuate assets, quit out and walk all the way back to the table to QP again>Get put in the exact same match I just quitNot playing this shitty game today then
>>575851675>complains about not having enough ammo>gets told about ways to get more ammo>how is that supposed to help?
>>575852251they last for a fraction of a second
Once the 40k warbond arrives we will reach 400k active players again
>>575852541Who said that niggerbrain
>>575852582Bro I know how to get more ammo, are you being dense on purpose now? I'll just assume yes so there's no need to continue.
>>575844462Gonna need to see the armors covered in gore and grime before I can decide whether they look good or not
>>575852713>I just used a zoomer gif for no reasonYuh huh.
>>575849775>ai slopper seething about people not paying for trashtracks
>>575852713You did
>>575852704more like 40k active players
I bet Narrowhead thinks the Emperor's Children are a loyalist faction
>>575852871A nigger and a gaslighter
>>575852713retard
>>575842138>HMG finally gets its big breakThank GOD it will finally be a somewhat decent weapon now
So all these tantrums are because of hdg's one-sided rivalry with dorktide players, correct?
>>575853038>Yeah the HMG is good now!>all you need is a 15 dollar warbond!!and people say HD2 isn't p2w
copeg on full damage control mode now that the superior pve game is getting better warhammer content than dorktide
>sharttide
>>575852384>peeky blinders haircut doing the floss>anon had genuinely no notion of this being a zoomer, he just knows he doesn't like it and uses it to describe people he doesn't likelol
>>575853087>>575853232You two making out in a discord or something?
>>575852884that's still like 10k more than we have right now
>>575852994>noooo! Stop refusing to fail for my strawman gaslight!
>>575853170I cheated in 30k super credits so it's fine.
>>575853443>Bought out the entire superstore and all battlepasses>Still have 35k SC left>Have like 3k in battlepasses SC I didn't claimI'm set for life this DLC is basically free for me so why not.
>>575853170>paying in a game where you can easily farm 1500sc in the time it would take you to complete a D10 operation>"p2w" existing in a game that is a complete cakewalk for anyone that isn't a complete retard
>>575853753>paying in a game where you can easily farm 1500sc in the time it would take you to complete a D10 operationCome on anon, that's bullshit
>>575853753>it's not p2w because you grind the premium currencyliterally the most basic argument of every p2w game defender out there
>>575853753Working at mcdonalds pays more than mindlessly grinding SC in D1 missions
>>575853232Darktides lasguns are a red beam though
>>575842594>no reason not to take this everare they fucking retarded?
>>575845454In Gaunt's Ghosts hot shot cells only seem to last a single shot.
They already tried mines and it didn't work the only reason people brings them is because they can brainfuck the AI and get it to stare at a wall why would they think an AT mine is going to work? you can just bring one of the other 3 types of grenades that one shot most armor shit in the game and don't have to hope it paths over it instead of getting distracted by something and running away.DMRs have never been good and they will never be good because the entire point of the game is to not engage shit at long range because it's a waste of resources all engagements happen at 50 meters or less because that's how objectives funnel you.The bolt pistol sounds good but they'll probably fuck it in some way.Armor seems like the only good thing this BP desu
>>575853038but it's decent now with peak physiquejust learn to recgonize when you're almost out and reload with 1 in the chamber, the tactical reload is fast
>>575844462>actually putting the retarded and horrible looking edge highlight meme that GW insists as being the aestheticfucking EW and kill yourself for gobbling up the actual corposlop you fucking amoebaThe absolute cherry on this shit cake is that it genuinely looks like it was painted by a retard who doesn't thin their paints
>>575853753>paying in a game where you can easily farm 1500sc in the time it would take you to complete a D10 operationThat hasn't been remotely true for a long while now.
>>575850736why does it look like there was a hat on this one and they hastily removed it and replaced it with nothing
>>575854939because they almost certainly did lol
>>575854805Who gets that mad about edge highlighting?They do it on minis to exaggerate details that natural lighting doesn't create on mini scaleIts not some memeIn fact, video game texture artists also do it as a form of baked in lighting
>>575854382>trident>talon>quasarWhat now?
>>575854939because there was a hat on this one and they hastily removed it and replaced it with nothingglad to help
Warbonds are not content. Guns do not meaningfully change the gameplay loop. You have been tricked through starvation into celebrating scraps you pay a fee for. Wake up.
Only looking forward to the lasrifle desu. And the meltagun.
>>575855360>lasrifle desuits going to be medium pen small capacity dmr dogshit
>>575844462Its just sad how hard so-called professionals get destroyed by passionate amateursYou'd think AH would have some kind of standard instead of just shitting out ugly bare minimum trash
>>575855461Lasguns tend to have 50-150 shots. But this is Helldivers. You get 20 at most. No customization. You rike? :)
>>575855608>You'd think AH would have some kind of standardTheyre Swedes. This IS the standard
>all this whining about paying for warbondsyou wouldn't be paying for anything if you actually played the game
>>575855461>medium pen laser sniperNo recoil? Good ergo? 10x scope? No drag? No bullet gravity? Sounds based af.
>>575855461so in other words you're exchanging mag capacity for penetration? because a normal lasgun would be a 50 to 60 round DMR with light pen
>>575855862>No recoil?It does have recoil in the trailer>Good ergo?And also semi auto so it will be unusable in normal gameplay>10x scope? No drag? No bullet gravity? Arrowhead would never
>>575855843That's not true with how bullshit SC spawn rates is nowadays.
>>575855251Edge highlighting is a real technique to emphasize details and create an artificial light source on the model, but that's not what GW puts on their fucking boxes and promo material. The garbage they make is every edge being highlighted equally from every angle.It looks like absolute garbage
>>575855896A normal lasgun would be medium pen
>>575855843If you actually played the game you would know that SC droprate on d10 is atricious
can anyone link where I can download the games assets for modding/browsing?or do I need to extract them myself
>>575856016Even if it's literally just Talon with a scope that's still better than most marksmen rifles in the game desu
>>575851818You can say this about every weapon that has ever existed. Also, the flamers were fine without confusion, now they just kill everything with minimal effort.
>>575847198the modder versions are clearly designed to look like painted models vs the helldivers are more realistic in their presentation of cloth and other materials. for example the mod versions cloth shadow detailing (arms on the heavy armor, legs and bottom of coat). in other words the mod versions look like other games that go for a stylized model, similar to how borderlands 4 did cloth
If the hotshot has heavy pen it will be the premier bot rapist
>>575856198>A normal lasgun would be medium peneven a fucking tertiary knows lasguns have zero penetration ability. you know nothing
>>575855843>megacities and hiveworlds start out by spawning a lot of really consistent SC>arrowhead rushes to fix it>special mission types like point holds and TCS still have 0 SC spawns>SC spawns seem lower overall after the security patchI got some doubts. We're genuinely out of touch. A new player coming in with 0 exploits is staring at a massive SC cost and hours upon hours of grinding while we're all just sitting on enough SC to last till end of service.
>>575856403Lasguns can pen space marine armor.
>>575856403Lasguns are not actually weak, they are only flashlights in the context of fighting the scary things in 40k like orks and demons and space marines other freaky aliens
>>575854939>>575855321It's funny when they said "erm uh it doesn't make sense for the cowboy warbond to have a hat on the helmet, who would wear a hat on their helmet?">several helmets are wearing berets>two are wearing officer caps>one helmet is wearing a bandana>several are wearing hoods over their helmets>multiple are wearing helmets on helmets>but a cowboy hat is just too fucking farWe'll probably get a catboy ears helmet before long though lmao
>>575856016>And also semi auto so it will be unusable in normal gameplaywhat game are you playing where you NEED full auto?
Remember. Tabletop rules are not lore accurate as said by GW themselves.
Does the warbond even need to come out? It seems like everyone already knows what part of it makes them mad.
>>575856403las guns sit well above stubbers, aka normal weapons, when it comes to damage and penthey're basically MG to HMG tier when it comes to damage and pen, at the very least
>>575844462>everyone calling this "modded versions">somehow superimposed onto the scene of the trailer>with the weapons at the hip too, except something is off about themyou're all fucking retarded, that shit's AI
>>575856443>I got some doubtsThere's no need to have doubts. I've never gotten any cheated SC and never ever did much grinding for it in the old days. I have 500+ hours and I can barely scrape by for SC to maybe get a warbond once in a while, and I get fucking shit in a single d10 operation, it's awful.
>>575856029>>575856213_____ ___ __________.
>>575856521In lore space marines die to flashlights and other bullshit, the problem with killing a space marine with a lasgun is the problem that you are fighting a literal superhuman that can probably find you in total darkness just by hearing your heartbeat and then beat you to death with his bare hands before you can even scream for help
>>575856679i imagine the chinks and russians trying to hack my e-mail as lain...
>>575856778>just play the game :)>and by that I mean grind on d2 :)swigger defenders are mentally ill
>>575851237Hotshot is a type of lasgun
>>575856472a space marine has a 66% chance to get an armour save against lasgun.s failed saves are the lasgun hitting the tiny gaps in the joints of between plates that are impossible to armour. a lasgun bolt hitting a space marines slab of breastplate armour is going to to absolutely fuck and all>>575856521that is why they are only strength 3 when they can blow off a normal human's limb in a single shot. strength does not translate to penetration. a multilaser which is basically just a oversized lasgun gatling is strength 6 but it still has the same 0 AP of a lasgun
>>575856403You are a colossal retard. A Lasgun is such an insanely powerful weapon that it could cut through any conceivable personal armor we currently have available. The deal is that the shit the Guard is put up against more often than not can shrug off a few bolts like big 'nid carapaces or the average power armorAnd no, your average space marine is not even close to being immune to lasgun fire. Not only can a squad of guardsman gun down a C/SM in the tabletop, but there are plenty of instances in side materials in which if you shoot them enough times you can fucking kill anything with lasguns
>>575856567Also that GW mostly cares about being "lore accurate" when it's in-universe shit. They'd concede to the collabslop weapons being weaker cosplay recreations.
>>575856906when they say that they mean "scour over every POI while I sit camped in front of a breach so I can collect passive income while gloating to my discord about killmogging you."it's all very semitic you see.
>>575856782>>575856974I mean yeah, the flashlight part is just how the guardsmen feel when fighting all this bullshit. Like even if you do hit and pen a space marine, that doesn't even mean he's gonna stop.I know how lasguns work, I'm just pointing out why "flashlight" as a term exists in the universe.
Lasguns are literally just laser cutters repurposed from the lost age of technology, its a literal wonder weapon that can pretty much vaporize most shit unless there is some lore bullshit going, likewise plasma weapons are literally powered by miniature nuclear reactors and shoot the sun at people, meltaguns are literal cutting torches powered by fusion reactors.Even terminator armor used to just be a mining suit from the lost age of technology, all the tech in 40k is literally future wonder technology they just fell into a "Dark age" which is still like insanely futuristic for us.
>mute the game>put on album or podcast>set my frv + jump pack spawning macro>set lobby to private>dive omicronD1 farming will continue until D10 diving gets proper rewards
>>575856029>~30SCs average per map>less on higher difficulties>33 maps for a common warbond and 50 maps for a legendary one>20-30 mins per map>11-25 hours per wabondIt's doable but you need to lower the difficulty
>>575857049>A Lasgun is such an insanely powerful weapon that it could cut through any conceivable personal armor we currently have available.the fucking t-shirts these orks are wearing can prevent them from taking damage from a lasgunweapon strength does not directly translate to weapon penetration
>>575857694>It's doable but you need to lower the difficultyYeah, no, that is not playing the game. I play this game for fun and not for grinding. And that's why Arrowhead is absolutely shitheads for shafting higher difficulty players. Fuck them.
>>575857780Orkz are literally biological weapons created by ancient lizard super gods to fight an intergalactic war against space robot terminators preserved cybernatically inside metal bodies made out of indestructible and unkillable metal that can literally heal itself and were so powerful at one point they even killed the gods and usurped them. So, yes, Orkz are absurdly powerful and strong.
>>575857694I'd say that an average of 30SC is a bit generous, because I've had a lot of moments where I've scoured entire maps with a full lobby and nobody found a single drop.
>>575857993once again you are conflating rolling to wound (strength vs toughness) with rolling to save (AP vs armour save)
>>575857836Don't worry, anon! Arrowhead once said that they hate people farming SC on low difficulties and will eventually be making it more fair for everyone!
>>575857694If you're only grabbing the SC it shouldn't take more than 5 minutes per map.
>>575858316Haha, yeah...
/hdg/ - Warhammer 40k General
>>575858359>inb4 Arrowhead makes it "more fair" by removing SC drops and rewarding you a miniscule amount of SC for completing D10 operations
Oh it isn't a shotshot lasgun its a hotshot MARKSMAN rifle
>>575858575>any incentive for diving above D6AH would never
Eravin would have loved this warbond
>>575843404DoNT yOu KnOw YoU cAN FaRm SuPeR CrEdITZ???
>>575858575It would be an improvement for me, but also cause a massive shitstorm.
>We have heard you, community!>Your feedback shows how much you hate grinding Super Credits™ on lower difficulties!>So we have removed Super Credit™ drops from all difficulties below 9!>Now every single Super Credit™ you'll earn through gameplay will feel earned and rewarding!
>1500 sc for a warbond with less content than some of the first few warbondsStill kinda criminal that they never went back to the old warbond formula of 3 primaries3 armors, capes and banners1 secondary, booster and grenadebut hey at least warbond quality ‘improved’ right guys?
>>575858846they wouldn't do this because reddit dadgamers who "only have one hour to game with my disabled son after work" would complain
>>575858575>special rewards for completing operationsUnironically based. I might even change my negative review if they make it so high difficulty missions have a better liberation rate.
>>575843404>>575858790we told you to cheat it inwe told you the security patch was proof a crackdown was cominganon posted detailed instructions for how to do it for like a solid yearyou only have yourself to blame for being a coward>b-but what if I got banned?then you could stop playing microtransaction slop
>>575859035No they fucking wouldn't, they're the biggest whales around.
>>575858575but then there would be a point to playing on D10 with /hdg/
>>575858143Ok? And you argued earlier that tabletop rules don't matter >>575856567and yet in the lore space marines and orc die to lasguns, now what retard kun?
>>5758499253/4 we are starting ahead but feel free to join
>>575858000It's about 2.9 on D1-2. Changing planets every 5 games or so might help. >I've scoured entire maps with a full lobby and nobody found a single dropJesus, use arrowshttps://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=helldiversseries&no=651386
>>575859446>Jesus, use arrowssorry man I can't read chingchong
>>575859340failed kick the pubby if theres one
>>575858000>>575859446We need to organize some sort of search party for Supercredits some time>>575859621There is a working one on rpghq
>>575859621
>>575859202imagine not having a fat stack of SCs...
>>575858867>peak physique drops>purely coincidentally weapons all had bad ergo before that patch>this bond has ergo passiveIm sure there is no reason to suspect that the new bond will contain nothing but low ergo weapons.
>>575858336>5 minIt shouldn't 2-3 min unless you want to get into a suicidal mood>>575860016>There is a working one on rpghqIt works like shit for me. The korean thing is 100% reliable
>>575860485I was including load times and menuing.
>>575849925ggs, fun for the whole family
>>575849925ggs>>575851898
>SC farming has me using an FRV again>still handles like a bouncy castle on wheels>randomly flips over>underside lightly grazes a rock>car explodesthey really wanted to make an FRV warbond without fixing the terrible driving physics???
>>575861157you're a big bot
>>575859446>https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=helldiversseries&no=651386Thanks anon, haven't been here for a long time so my arrow mod was too old.
exosuits are so ridiculously broken now
>>575861639What? They're still solidly mediocre across the board.
>>575861639Not on bots, the real faction. Bugs and squids are just training modes
>>575861835Exo suits absolutely smash bugs too paste, not sure what you mean. Kind of fun on bots now, still risky.
>>575861861>use pissile to blow up nearby cannon turrets so it doesn't get blown up before it drops down>exo solos half of the mission, have another ready by the time ammo runs outnice difficulty
now that we are officially warhammer pilled we must return to >>>/coopg/
>>575861835He probably means the rapethrough
>>575862325Pick a side
>>575856090Oh yeah, this looks totally the same btwFucking retard lol
>>575862460ooooo, okay I pick kill yourself
>>575862245>use pissile to blow up nearby cannon turrets>drop exo>turret you missed from half the map away lights you up within a couple minutes using itFtfy
kill yourself jeet
>>575862556>kill yourselfdon't be rude
>>575843404Chinaman gave me $200 worth of super credits for freeI would have quit otherwise
>>575844462looks better but doesn't look like helldivers 2something better would be a middleground ideally with not as many lines as the fan recreation
Man where’s that noise coming from?Sounds like someone sucking sweedish dev cock
>>575862552
>>575861835DelusionalNothing on the nids or loomys can even harm them and only cannon bots can damage them
>>575856226bump
Why does GW want lasguns to not have red lasers anymore?
>>575862856Haven't played squids in a hot minute, do they still spawn stingrays? Those fuckers clean up exos, otherwise you're right
>>575862959They were always piss color. You just outed yourself as a tourist.
>>575860016I haven't played in a while. Is the era of SC spawning really over?Did they ban anyone? I was able to get on just fine, so I wasn't hit at least.
>>575859330>And you argued earlier that tabletop rules don't mattewhy do you assume that's me?
Ordered my 9050 4GB how does FSR4 look in this?
>>575863247Stringrays are planet dependent, but yeah, they are a real pain.
>>575863247r/helldivers had a melty so stingrays almost never spawn now and leviathan beams deal half damage to armor. the only thing that can kill an exo suit is a standing perfectly still in a harvester beam for about 10 seconds. Oh harvesters were nerf too btw lol
>>575863309I don't think they banned anyone who's done it in the past, there's been no reports of that. I think they just added more restrictions/detection on doing it going forward, and now I'm too scared to test in case they do start issuing bans
>>575863482My 11500 100KB runs it pretty good with FSR4 and DLSS
>>575863289yeah i am, i always thought those lasguns were always just red. didn't know there was variety
>>575863289Not that anon, but not always.They're yellow in Gladius 40k for example, but the recon lasgun in shopclick fires red ones.
>>575862856it's crazy how posting a single image can destroy any credibility you might have otherwise had in a text post
If Claude had coded Heavenfallers 4 it would run better than the wankfest the Swedeniggers put together.
>>575863640There's always been variety. There has also been some push from GW lately to consolidate las weapons as piss coloured bolt throwers though, I have a feeling that all depictions of red or even blue laser beams was against James' wishes (all the old art featured yellow bolts) and now they're cracking down and making sure new vidya "does it right"
Lobber dokker?
>>575862552lol
>>575864175I'm kinda mad it's called AI when its dumb as fuck. You can't just feed a computer huge amounts of data and expect it to become intelligent. Artifical neural networks have a better shot at becoming intelligent than the sloppa producing datacenters.
>>575864198The real reason why the flash is yellow is because game workshop is made up of brainlets and obviously its hard to tell when people are shooting a gun if you can't see the flash.In reality a lasgun wouldn't produce any visual effect, maybe heat up the air and produce steam in its travel path and the hiss from the pressure change due to sudden temp changes
>>575864198Okay but genuine and unironic question, anon: Why?Why the fuck do they want lasguns to shoot yellow bolts that would look indistinguishable from an autogun or even bolters? I can understand it shooting red bolts just like in the Star Wars, but why fucking YELLOW?
Waited for the warbond trailer before I decided to spend my SC. I'll just skip it instead. Letting kek decide my next warbond.>OddsDust Devils>Evens Python Commandos>ZeroMaster of Ceremonies
>>575864498Abominable intelligence is not to be underestimated.
>>575864860>masters of sneedrore
>>575864881is that jim sterling
>>575864860>Master of CeremoniesDont waste your money or time, its bad>Python Commandosbad and useless unless you want the carbine>Dust Devilsthis one is the only one worth it exclusively for the coyote
>>575864881Help I underestimated the Abominable Intelligence and now it has all my data. What do?
>>575864881>Thinks all AI is abominable intelligenceTourist alert!
>>575865026i hate that i know who this is via pw
>>575865026he wishes
>>575864881>mfw this chick appeared on my fy page today
>>575864860It is done.
>>575865026https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9W-fAtF52k>>575865163She's hot and funny so i'll give her a pass
>>575856090>Edge highlighting is a real technique to e̶m̶p̶h̶a̶s̶i̶z̶e̶ ̶d̶e̶t̶a̶i̶l̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶r̶e̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶a̶r̶t̶i̶f̶i̶c̶i̶a̶l̶ ̶l̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶s̶o̶u̶r̶c̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶o̶d̶e̶l make your shitty plastic model look even more like cheap plasticftfy
>>575865230This better not make me turn it off in the 1st 60 seconds anon
>>575865309>I need (YOU) for the Guard
>>575865026Jim Sterling is too busy having phantom pregnancies to do anything like this
>>575863289>They were always piss color. You just outed yourself as a tourist.9th edition cinematic trailer on the official warhammer channel shows 3 guardsmen fighting necrons. the guardsmen's lasguns fire red beams.and fuck off with the colour deflection, the real issue is moving from depicting them shooting pulsed beams to shooting energy bullets. you can go all the way back to 3rd edition and read in the codex that lasguns fire beams, not bolts.
>>575865309I turned it off in the first 5 seconds
>>575863953lol fuck off idiot exos are good now and it only took these lazy euros 2 years to fix them.
>double freedom on bile spewer seedvery satisfying to blast them in the face
>>575865429>>575865230>>575865309Oh it's a react video nevermind.>she actually makes some normal videosProps to her though, most women would never.
>kasrkin dlc>for helldivers>they didnt add the hellgunwhat in the actual fuck are they doing
>>575865234Hey, it can absolutely be used in a good way. GW has just (once again) decided on one of the worst aesthetic choices for no good fucking reason.E.g. is pic related. Ignore the guy's weird attempt at green glow, but rather look at how the edges on the legs are painted. Highlighted where light is coming from and darkened where it does not. It's even more evident when put side by side with GW shit
>>575866173I bet they are going to add it in the super store for 500 sc or some crazy shit
>>575865478Man that guy really juat went bonkers suddenly, sad to see.Anyways, I wonder if the Meltagun will be the hmg equivalent to the laser cannon.
>>575866382>Man that guy really juat went bonkers suddenly, sad to see.Let's be honest, it really wasn't sudden.Honestly, I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.
>ugly armor>beam melta>dmr and meme pistollollmaoexactly as shit as I expected it to be
GW has never been consistent in how they and the media they approve depict lasguns. one codex will say "energy packets" the other will say "beam", one cover art will show yellow muzzle flashes, another will show lascannons firing blue/white along side yellow lasgun muzzle flashes, their own trailer shows red beams, every 40k video game since from 2004 to 2024 I can think of shows pulsed beams of the yellow, orange, and red variety.The problem is GW has decided to (yet again) settle on the worst and least visually and mechanically interesting option: yellow bolts that look no different from tracers. the flashing pulsed beam of the lasguns in dawn of war is iconic, the hitscan solid pulse beam in darktide is mechanically superior to distinct energy bullets with travel time. I can understand keeping it yellow for helldivers because A) helldiver lasers are already yellow, and B) red lasers might confuse players on the automaton front since they also fire red projectiles, but there's no excuse to make them fire distinct slower than light bolts like a fucking star wars blaster instead of the iconic, superior hitscan pulsed beam.
CACAdia
>>575866173>hellgun>>575866831You don't get it, fun is NOT allowed in this game. Oh you wanted good Halo weapons? FUCK YOU. Killzone? EAT MY ASS. Warhammer? KEK, be happy we give you a retextured las cannon and a reskinned DMR and some green paint
>>575867073the lasgun issue is GW being retarded, not arrowhead
>>575866780shut up hitler
>>575867184Listen buddy, I am here to shitpost all over this thread with my EBIN and ZAZED posts, I am not here to have productive conversation, whatever that means, please refrain from replying to my highly intellectual posts in the future, thanks buddy.
I will give praise to one thing in this collab; it actually comes with a full loadout. ODST was missing a grenade and a support weapon and Killzone was missing a grenade and a secondary.
>Warbond is shit? Blame GW>Warbond is broken? Blame GWKinda refreshing
>>575867593>Breathe air>Blame GWAs god intended.
>>575864860>Having only 1k SCGrimChilling, even
Did you know that you can spam d1 missions and farm SC? You never have to pay a cent for warbonds. The arguments about AH being cash grabbers are outright false and AH is actually very generous.
>40k warbond doesnt even look like 40k>clearly rushed and low quality as fuck AHAHAHHAAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
Kasrkin helmets gonna go hard on ground breaker and fiend slayer
steam://joinlobby/394510/109775244887696330/76561199108851031hd1, d12-15 whatevs
>>575866780>beam meltaThat's how it should be? Tourist
>40K tourists think the quality looking bad is on AHy'all don't know how governing GW is huh
Unless the mine can be thrown far, I'm saving my creds. Wonder if I should finally get around to getting Servants.
The marksman rifle not having a stock is bothering me. I know its lore accurate, but still.
the armor seen in the video looks nothing better than the fan mods that have been out for a while
>>575868950>I'm saving my creds.no you arent lol. they made the passive OP. they do this every time. you will buy the meta armour
>>575869095It's a laser, negroid
>>5758688022/4
inside sources have told me that gucci slippers committed suicide last night at 2:43 AM
>>575869342I know. It still bothers me.
day is never finishedmassa got me workingsome day massa set me free
>Play on colony maps, so PoI spawns are always blatant and easily accessible, even to pubbies.>Easily end every mission with at least 10 to 30 supercredits without even bothering to go out of my way to grab PoIs myself.>Still get to have my fun in D10s too, never actually grind, just play the fucking videogame for the sake of fun and passively accrued supercredits.Have all the warbonds and I've never once grinded lower difficulties for them. I just played the fucking videogame.>But that takes too long.Not my problem. It's a live service game. Live service games all expect you to play them like it's Second Life.
>>575869282How does +ergo and +reload speed help with my C4?
>>575869509stealthbrowns don't matter, of coursebut you knew that already
>>575868950the lure mine is half the size and drops right next to you and kills you unless you take a running leap forward and aim up at a 60 degree angle.
>>5758688023/4
>>575869697what retard uses c4 for stealth?
>>575869509Might be pretty sweet I use a hotkey for fast swapping, but the problem with C4 is sometimes you do it too fast and you're left empty handed.
>>575868802full
>>575867943If only you knew how bad things really are.
>>575864860I got 1550 unredeemed and1960 in my walletJust POI farm on d1 bugs
>>575864198The old artists are just drawing muzzle flash a lot of the time. There is first party old hammer art of blue beams.
40K SUPERCREDITS LMAOOO
>>575864198This is like Uno saying you cant use a +4 on a +4 to pass it on. Devs just don't fucking get it, good things come from mistakes or evolution.It SHOULD be a beam and it should be red, thats what people like.
>>575870273>give the sw*des my timevs>give the sw*des my moneyWhich is worse?
realistically a sensible number to stop at would be 5-10k warhammersthe senseless abundance is why the imperium is doomed to fail
>>575864198pictured in this image: not a single actual bolt, only muzzle flashes
>did neither and spawned in 500k sc insteadfeels good
>>575870678
>>575870774cheers to that
>>575870374>>575870539>>575870706I still find it hilarious that in the old art marines would get more lasers than the guard. It is correct that lasguns should be a beam, though I disagree just on it being red, various colours would be more "realistic". Classic GeeDubs
>>575864198>Lore argumentIrrelevant, rule of cool > lore>Realism argument It would have no bullet, it would just flash, and whatever you're aiming at would burn. GWS has failed here.
>>575851675>shit happensYeah and building (or wanting to) around shit that doesn't matter is stupid. Low ammo in 'I got lost and I am fucking around' scenarios is not a real 'constrain' and is nothing compared to massive power increase the new armor will provide in actual combat where your help will matter.
>>575871161GWS fucking up their own setting and making it worse is the only true canon.
>>575871161yeah, every time codex covers get brought up I think of this
>>575871291God they're like british Arrowhead
>>575871481>>575871161If GWS was smart, they would have just said that Lasguns come in all sorts. Instead they specifically want to push yellow bullets, which is an odd choice given flexibility and diversity is kinda the thing behind making an army and designing it how you want.
>>575871581Jesus Christ. You're right.
>>575871643it's far easier to copyright and enforce that copyright on one specific thing than "I dunno lol just do what you want ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"I understand why they did it, I don't agree with the kind of depiction they settled on
>>575869927C4 is the preferred stealth support weapon, are you kidding me?
>>575871221>the massive firepower increase to me calling down supplies and refilling my recoiless and then emptying it again, but it's actually the same exact firepower in the end>or the alternative of my squad mates called in the supplies across the map so I just have to hoof it for a bitWow, so massive... I'm really feeling it!It's a fine enough passive, but it's not OP, it's not "wowow S-tier." It still just boils down to preferences on pros and cons of what you could have had instead.
>>575871826You can't copywrite yellow lasers. Literally, you cannot. Its too generic.
>>575864821>gw>why Xthey are fucking retarded
>>575872098Just wait until Nintendo does it
>Anons know, for a fact, AH fucks everything up>Anons also know, for a fact, that GWS fuck everything up>Anons expected anything other than absolute failure on the 40k Warbond Sometimes I worry for you lads
>>575871161Vghh sovl
>>575872286>absolute failureWe got>punchy marksman laser (talon rifle)>punchy sidearm (possible grenade pistol replacement)>more anti tank (always fun)>a great armour passiveHow is this a "massive failure" again, doomsissy?
>>575872541>grenade pistol replacementyour pissile??
>>575872541Weak anon, get better content from reddit they're going nuts trying to defend this.
>>575871161>then: APESHIT MEN MANLY KILLERS PRIDE AND PROTECTORS OF MAN>now: PRIDE MARINES and female custodeswhat the fuck happened?
>>575871948You are shooting faster so the fire power is increased. Maxigun and Halo AR fire the same bullet but the former is obviously stronger. Ammo increase doesn't do anything 95% of the time, only comes in clutch if 1. you ran off somewhere 2. have already dumped your normal ammo load.>what you could have had insteadWhatever it is it isn't a combination of Peak Physique and Siege Ready like what we're getting. It absolutely is wowowow SSS-tier.
>>575872151I can understand that but I am genuinely trying to comprehend the rationale between every paint huffing decision they make, and pretty much everything can be narrowed down to:>so we can sell more plasticBut how the fuck does making the lasers be fucking yellow and not lasers make any fucking sense from any standpoint???
>>575871161How is it possible that the old art looks like something a medieval knight would have hanging on his wall to remember his fallen brothers in a war long gone and modern art looks like absolute DOGSHIT. Seriously, fuck GW, they dropped the best art style in the world in favour of sterile modern shit
>>575872757I only use nade pistol for bug holes, pissile isn't any better in that regard. If the bistol can close holes then it'll have more rounds in the mag and be a straight upgrade
>>575872814>It absolutely is wowowow SSS-tier.Uh huh, sure, yeah.
>>575872853perhaps the bongs long for real weapons after being cucked and oppressed for so longor perhaps they're just retarded and there really is no actual reasoning for it except maybe their ai slop fucked up once and they're running with it to save face
>>5758688023/4 pubby rage quit due to erectile issues
>>575873032FUck you!!!!
>>575872098They literally tried to copyright the term ''Imperial Guard''. Why do you think the guard is called Astra Militarum now?
>>575872798>Setting is made>Its ok>Setting is improved>It gets popular>Money notices>Money wants more >Money demands more appeal to more people >Setting designers would rather no- fired>Money takes over>Money pushes out anything controversial>Money pushes for whatever is trending >Money wants airtight IP protection for everything, forcing changes to setting for legal instead of logical reasons >Setting reaches peak >Money thinks their changes were what did it (it was actually just the good will of the original setting) >Money expands into everything from toys to movies to shows to books to magazines to ads everywhere>Setting is now generic and bleeding money>Money thinks what is needed is more Money and more of what they changed (not bringing the setting back to what it was)>Setting dies slowly
>>575872798Try drinking less conservative koolaid, your manly power armoured mens are still alive and thriving. The femstodes drama was centered around a single fucking mini and blown way out of proportion
>>575873105Not certain what you're trying to say. Yellow lasers/red beams cant be IP protected.
>>575873068Trying to play HD1 after having played Synthetik is like trying to pilot a 1886 benz after driving a Ferrari my whole life
>>575873105>nowThey always were you fucking TOURIST. AM is the official Imperial name for them, imperial guard is the colloquial. They just swapped the name on the website and codex for branding and copyright reasons
>>575873173Femstodes was and is really gay and lame shit. Calling something out for being retarded is always correct. The sisters of silence are also right fucking there, give them some love GW.
Date a bot
mew mew mew im a little attention whore
>>575873396Custodes is really gay and lame shit to begin with. What are they doing outside of the imperial palace anyway? But GW saw dollar signs so they made them, making them inclusive to both genders is such a nothingburger
>>575873253if GW thinks it will make it more copyrightable or easier to enforce their copyright they will do it. they renamed everything that was even smei-generic to their own retarded special names like eldar being aeldari, imperial guard being astra militarum, assault marines and tactical marines being changed to intercessors. when it comes to IP rights consistency is also key: if you can't even depict your own IP the same way every time then you can't tell other people to knock it off when they depict their own IP in similar ways. It's not necessarily that GW thinks yellow bolts are easier to copyright, it's that they can point to yellow bolts being the most common depiction in their original early first party media, so they went with that.
>>575873567>What are they doing outside of the imperial palace anyway?Yeah it's not great. But that's no excuse to be even worse. >making them inclusive to both genders is such a nothingburgerNah fuck off. "Inclusivity" just means everything gets less defined and interesting.
>>575873427i am a white helldiver and i approve of this message
Remember your past glories
the call of duty crossover had better looking armor and a melee
>>575873427I will if you give me the LORA
>>575873773bugtoddlers could never
It was over before it even started.Anyone expected anything good from a collab between the swiggers and gw?
>>575873738>if GW thinks
>>575873758>everything gets less defined and interestingAgain, it's one model in a range of models that shouldn't even exist. It also makes perfect lore sense that the Emps could make femstodes. Wake me up when there are femarines, then I'll take the conservative q.qing more seriously>all lefties are snowflakes!>but watch me cry over a mini in a faction I'll never buy like a precious widdle snowflake baaaaaawwwPathetic
>>575873975The collab looks fine. The telling point is when we see numbers on the weapons (assuming they don't list things wrong like with the Pissle)
>>575873738Again, not sure why you're replying. You cannot copy write red beams or yellow lasers. It was creative, not legal, choice to pick yellow even though red was more popular.
if the bolt pistol is anything less than AP4 do we blame Alexus
>>575874045>no you aren't allowed to care because I said soNot everything has to be left and right faggotry. Take your baiting nonsense elsewhere.
>>575874045>you are a snowflake if you don't like your hobbies being invaded by freaks of naturehow exactly do you think we got to this pointThis is related to the discussion of helldivers 2 because the two settings are now intertwined via the "Helldivers 2 x Warhammer 40,000" collaborative warbond btw
>>575842138True Grit?More like True Shit!
>>575874045>It also makes perfect lore sense that the Emps could make femstodesIt actually doesn't. Space Marines are basically sexless bio robots. Slap testosterone into something and it turns into what we look at and call a 'man'. Logically they didn't follow sexual dimorphism, so this is a cultural shove not good setting design.
>>575874096>You cannot copy write red beams or yellow lasers.but you can copyright the design of a consistent depiction of a weapon in your media, which is their goal for forcing everyone to depict lasguns the same way. yellow bolts are a means to an end
>>575874214You're the one who started it with your chuddy take on femstodes. What army do you play? You do have an army and aren't just crying over a game you aren't even invested in, right?
>>575874426Read my post again, you missed the point.
>>575874276It's a good thing that custards aren't marines isn't it then, tourist
>>575874567Semantics, both Custodes and Marines are the same bio designed robots.
>>575874437yeah yeah i've heard this before, faggot>oh i bet you don't even have an army>wow i bet it's just that one army huh :)>well i bet you don't do anything but paint>ok but you don't even know x edition rules>well but..just kill yourself
>>575874567Have you seen a woman on test before? When they transition everything about them becomes masc, even their voices.Making that man talk with a female voice is retarded. Might as well make bolters shoot dildos.
>>575874437Ah yes, the chuddy take that I like the guy faction to be guys and the girls faction to be girls. Give me a break.
are we getting a few super store items yay or nay
>>575874656No it's not semantics, read some fucking lore. Custodes are individually crafted works of transhuman art, marines are mass produced genetic clones and it's the geneseed that locks them into being the one gender>>575874790>the guy factionAgain, stodes aren't marines
>>575874805Swedeniggers can't help themselves
Girls Frontline collab when?
>>575874862just because you can make women into custodes I don't know why you even would when men are genetically, biologically, physically superior to women at a base level. what's the point in putting 130% effort into making a female custodes just as good as a male custodes when you could have just used another male and have an easier time of it and get a better product out of it in the end? it makes no logical sense, it's just there for brownie points
>>575873567>w-why does it matter that they added w*men to the most epicest etc not-spehsmuhreen offshot because they want to placate various kinds of faggots and show how wholesome they areBecause fuck this gay feminist shit and you are a nigger. If you really thought it's a nothingburger then you would just nignore and not write this in response to people who rightfully dislike the otherwise pointless retcon.
>>575874862It is semantics for you to try and save face while ignoring the fact that when you optimize for what they're optimized for; you get men.
>>575874862>No it's not semanticsNo hes right both are designed to be warriors and those traits would be masculine. Explain the military advantage of boobs, high pitched voices and a vagina.
>>575874862>read some fucking loreCurious where in the lore it says custards leave the palace for random missions in far flung space without express permission from the big E himself...
>>575875139>>575875173>it makes no logical sense>muh optimisationBrother this is 40K. Chainfists make no logical sense and aren't optimal in the slightest but here we are
>>575874862Todes are men, Silence is the sister order of women. Women todes ruin a good dynamic. Simple as.
>>575875067true
>>575875352Its called the suspension of belief my little underage new-40k friend. Don't worry you're about 20 years too late to win this argument.
what's your favorite color of the strategems?
>>575874862Listen you stupid sexist retard. Just because GWS does something doesn't make it good.
>>575875342I've already made that point multiple times, but you don't want to read you just want to be mad at progressive bogeyman>>575875509Oh so we can suspend disbelief for weaponry but not for female custards? Make up your mind, pick a lane and stick to it
>>575875562blue
>>575875623>I've already made>Doesn't make the point So you don't think the 'lore' matters then...
>>575875623>weaponry but not for female custards?Yes. Anything else you need to be educated on?
>>575874862>Custodes are individually crafted works of transhuman artSo explain again why making a female who leaves her sworn duty to protect is fitting the lore again? Why can't it be the Sisters? Oh wait its because you're a retard who defends GWS no matter what they do, got it.
>>575875613Where did I say that I thought femstodes were good? I did state that I thought the whole faction existing as tabletop minis is stupid however. I think all the salty bitch tears about femstodes is over the top and pointless, that's my point and you're all proving it right
>>575875916>Defends a thing>No uh but it isn't good!Just shut your sexist hole retard.
>>575875916Then don't cry when [Insert thing you like] gets changed by GWS for no justifiable reason.
>>575875992i wouldn't want women to be sent to their deaths in a war, so who's really sexist
>>575876073Nigger, I started 40K when Catachans had a codex and they were my first army. You don't understand the half of the shitty things GW has done, I am scarred and jaded, and this femstodes thing was poorly handled but a mere drop in the ocean to me. GW are never going to rectify themselves and throwing a little kiddie fit over every minor thing they screw up is unhealthy. Grow some thicker skin
>>575876384No. Femtodes is the line to gatekeep
>>575876248If you shoved enough testo into a test tube baby it wouldn't be a woman to begin with
>>575876384>ye old 'i was here first'I have an original copy of RT, you have nothing to say here. You're wrong, conversation over.
>>575876384>Grow some thicker skin>Proceeds to troon out defending GWS mindlessly instead of just accepting it makes no lore, logical or reasonable sense for a vagina to be running off world doing side missions You're a dumb faggot
>>575876527>>575876628Well you failed at that "gatekeeping" didn't you, petulant little conservacucks. Femstodes are a thing now, move on
It's interesting to see the responses HD fans seems to be a mix from me to ok on it depending on gun stats. 40k fans seem pissed though, like they convinced themselves this would be way more than it was. Guess it means less 40k fans here.
>>575876704They are in fact not a thing, because the blowback was so bad they've largely ditched the overhaul they were planning.
>>575876704Until we see femtodes in videogames and actually good/important books, we can safely say they don't exist
>>575876704You already accepted I win because I have been here longer. Accept your place newfag.
>>575876798Laser marksman rifle and a meltagun were basically everything I wanted. I guess a chainsword would have been nice, though.
>>575876913[Citation needed]There was no overhaul planned, GW are lazy. They churned out the femstodes mini to make the progressives happy and moved on, same way they tossed Cain and Jurgen out without any Valhallans.>>575876928Yeah, that's fair and reasonable. I'm just sick of seeing all the wimpy crying about it in every corner of the internet like whinging is going to make GW take it back
>>575877134Already exists. It was buffed by 150% and was always good. You just suck.
>>575877152>He doesnt know
>>575877134Bro your deforestation device?
lowk based
>>57587679840k fans knew this would be shit from day 1 because its 40k
>>575877134I wasn't even expecting the meltagun so getting it alone was enough for me. I was 100% expecting a plasma gun with the explode mechanic.
>>575856226>>575862876discord server called The Helldivers Archive has everything
>>575873773Remember when we hard cucked joel out of Reddit Creek 2?
>>575876798no real 40k fan expected anythingterminally adapted to disappointment and abuse
>>575877237>[Citation needed]
Haven't played since the halo crossover what's going on? What's meta? I've burnt out of every other game lately and coming back I'm honestly really enjoying playing this again it's held up
collabs were a mistakethey were born of the unexpected popularity of helldivers 2, and arrowhead wanting to step into the spotlight and join the ranks of military themed fictional settingsthe fact that anyone was willing to collab with them made them feel specialhelldivers 3 won't have collabs
>>575877854>helldivers 3 won't have collabsOh yes it fucking will. The CEO is adamant on making 3-5 big titles and going full AAA to sell the studio to a group like EA. They're money grubbing whores.
>>575877795D10 is so piss easy you could go in with anything and solo win.
>>575876798The armor passive alone is the best in the entire game due to how support weapons all have no ergo. It will be the most used armor under oxygen until the next premium power booster drops. Its all so tiresome. >mess with the hidden weapon stats>sell war bond that counter acts your stat changes
>>575873975cutebut i need nooombers before i can call this collab slop and i got planety of SCs so i can safey consoom without feeling like raped goycattle
>>575878082>The armor passive alone is the best in the entire gameNot even fucking close. Stealth is by far the best for everyone in all situations. It completely breaks enemy AI and changes the game entirely in the teams favor. In terms of objective OPness its that, then maybe the new armor.
>>575875342Don't they get permission from Girlyman?
>>575878082>>mess with the hidden weapon stats>>sell war bond that counter acts your stat changescan you point out these stat changes?
>>575878282I see that you dont play the game very often. Not only does stealth not work the same for host and client everyone has to have it on. Lure mines alone break the entire game but most people are too stupid to use them because they worship retarded streamers.
>>575878458Wouldn't matter, they outrank him.
>>575878542Not even remotely true. I host and join others, it works flawlessly every time. I see you're full of shit and just a retard.
>>575878082Historically, it's been the opposite. Remember when they fixed the Flamethrower going through Charger legs right before Freedom's Flame came out? Or increasing fire buildup limit on several key enemies after explicitly saying they wouldn't nerf the Coyote's fire status buildup?
>>575878542>Falling for reddit misinfo Lmao this isn't true by the way the armors work fine.
>>575878082Reloading 20% faster is irrelevant for support weapons, it genuinely, does not fucking matter. The game is not fast paced enough for that to make a single difference.
>Battery Pack stratagem>backpack slot. when equipped reduces cooldown time of energy based weapons by 40%Would this be too powerful?
>>575878470>0 ergo on half the support weapons>undocumented changes to sway and recoil data mined>all hidden in the gameSomeone think of the poor multi million dollar indie dev.
>>575878282>stealth cucksYou don't need to "break enemy AI" if you just kill everything in sight or run straight through. Warp pack makes you untouchable, can just zip zap straight through hordes like they don't exist. Stealth is there but it's unreliable, and this new armour passive straight up buffing the harder hitting weapons will make it easier than ever to annihilate everything in view
>>575878831Its 30% which is an entire second off all reloads which is a gigantic boost in damage and mobility. Maybe play the game you dont own.
>>575878282unless your entire squad is stealth-sissing around or you are solo fagging, your stealth means jack shit when the rest of the team starts throwing orbitals
stealth sissying = can't use car because every enemy sees it from like 100 meters away = you are actually slower than a Big Penis Frontal Assault Squad with clown car. >>575878282>objective OPness All that matters
>stealth-sissingHow do you come up with this shit
>>575878831It's 30%, not 20%. And yes, it does make a difference, for instance the HMG goes from 3.5 seconds for a tactical reload (assuming Payroll Management System) to around 2.4 seconds. Can you imagine how much less of a pain in the ass the HMG becomes to use when you can reload it as fast as an assault rifle while also getting some bonus ergo to handle it better?>>575878850No, it just wouldn't work at all because AH wouldn't be able to code it properly and it would simply waste a stratagem and backpack slot.
>>575878857so you can't actually point out any of these supposed nerfs they've done in order to tell the solution in this warbondbecause they didn't happen
>>575878831>Reloading 20% faster is irrelevant for support weaponsIt's really good for the best ones.
Beep beep
>>575878831
>two heavy armors now with prosthetics >both only have one instead of the mediums having two Wonder why this is.
>>575879869clearly light armor is superior protection because none of them have prosthetics
>>575878850it would need to be an optional backpack that comes with the weapon, so most likely requiring a whole stratagem modification system for the players - thats actual work and they dont do that in sw*den.
>>575879974
>>575877152>like whinging is going to make GW take it backEnough backlash does in fact make companies reverse decisions all the time
no lobbies? *spits on ground* garbage thread. useless.
>>575880170Then you clearly haven't known GW for long enough. They aren't American, either
>>575880178*walks up to you**slaps you across the face*
>>575880293
>>575880293YOU'VE GOT NO RIGHTNOT EVEN MY OWN FATHER HIT ME BEFORE
the double freedom is perfect
From observation in the trailer, meltagun will be>AT1 Pen>500 DPS>20 meters range>No indication if it will burn enemies since tanks can''t catch burn effectSo its basically an energy lance
40k weapons will be crazy on bot front
>>575880293YOU HAVE COURTED DEATH
>>575880750None of the bots killed by the drive-by meltas were set on fire.
>>57587679840K fan will literally melt and cry if GW releases non space marine minis.Whenever they release or rework a whole army, it'll also comes with a new space marine mini. Otherwise 40k fan literally cries about space marines getting no love.Look at all the 40K fans crying about no space marine items in the warbond, they're a fucking joke
>>575881087the people crying about no space marine armor arent 40k fans bub
>>575880587Is that why you're such an uppity little brat?
>>575879371Wait, I didn't think it'd go as low as 2.4s... That's pretty much as fast as the HALO rifle reload. Holy moly this armor perk is even more OP than expected
>>575878082>doesn't affect EAT>doesn't affect laser support weapons>worse than siege-ready for most of the non-backpack support weaponsThe armor will be a religious garb for RR sissies but beside that, it will go mostly unnoticed by uncucked players I reckon
>>575881141unfortunately, they are. you are just that insufferable. but hey, this non gw game got a melta before dorktide LAMO
>>575881614>all the mgs>epoch>nade launcher>flammenwerfersThere are more weapons that it does affect than doesn't. Your argument is weak and irrelevant
>>575877795Scorcher, grenade pistol, thermiteQuasar cannon, supply pack, eagle strafing run, orbital napalmThere. If you can't do D10, you have a disability
>>575881821>this non gw game got a melta before dorktideActually made my 2026. Haven't been over to coopg in a bit but I can imagine the shitposting and melties
>>575881821>nuh uhok pal. dunno why you even brought up darktide. I don't even play that anymore cus it's just le funni ogryn spam game
my scythe is lvl 22, any similar weapons for bug crowd control?
>>5758812965.5 seconds for a full reload, 1.6 seconds of which is chambering the round, so a tactical reload of 3.9 seconds. Reduce that by 10% from Payroll Management System, and it becomes 3.51 + 1.44 seconds. Reduce that by 30% from True Grit, and you're looking at 2.46 + 1.01 seconds. Which is basically assault rifle speed. True, you're still locked in place by the stationary reload, but that extra second is still huge. With the cherry on top again being the +20 ergo, not as strong as Peak Physique but still very nice.
>>575881915>>all the mgsOnly LMG and HMG. Siege-ready is way better for stalwart and neither passive affects EMG>>epochSiege-ready is way better + tranny weapon anyway>>nade launcherSiege-ready is way better. Even for the zap launcher>>flammenwerfersSiege-ready is way better + fackpack fed is the only relevant one anywayAt the end of the day, having more ammo across the board is better than being able to use it up quicker.
The director guy said that the update "this year and next year is going to be even cooler" when talking about original illuminate drop.So we are getting something really big this year still
>>575873963They really really couldn't. It's actually funny. Bugfront has never has subfactions combine on a battlefield like they do on Botfront.
>>575882250coyotecookout
>>575882351You assume people run out of ammoThey don't. It's literally impossible to do so anymore with how many ammo crates spawn in the map. +20 ergo on weapons with 0-15 ergo is a huge buff and then they all reload 30% faster. New s tier armor. 2nd best in slot behind oxygenate.
>>575882075>popped over to coopg >they're just trashing on how shit the warbond looksI mean fair, if we're comparing recent updates, skitarii was so much more fleshed out and compelling. Ruined my 2026 thoughbeit
>>575882416We can only hope
>>575882351>having more ammo across the board is better than being able to use it up quickerNo? Who tf runs out of ammo?
>>575882351Wrong wrong wrong. Being able to use up ammo quicker is important when things get actually heated. Muh total ammo pool is noob trap for those who suffer from ammo anxiety. Drop the supply pod nigger. NO you won't need it later.
>>575845636Right, where is the chainsword?
>>575882725>>575882973My apologize. I keep forgetting most people itt run away from fights and use crutch weapons with a supply pack anyway.
>>575882351>Siege Ready is better >You get a whole 1 (one) more mag in most cases Wowwww this is truly better than 30% faster support weap reload!
>>575882351I have never ran out of ammo even without supply pack except when I use Epoch and even then you're gonna wanna bring supply pack to use with Epoch anyway since its so ammo hungry.
the passives on the 40k armor don't matter because both of them are uglydon't know how the fuck we didn't get basic olive drab, instead they stuck us with the gay ass brown polygons camowho even knows what the fuck the other set is from, I have never seen a guardsman dressed like thatwhere the fuck is the krieg set? I don't even fucking care if they put it in the store like greedy jews, just tell me there actually is a krieg set
You literally can't run out of ammo if you consistently call down resupply on cooldown (2 minutes) and each poi giving 4-5 ammo boxes
>>575883559Erm its actually 3 minutes but yeah, you're going to run out of stims faster than ammos anyway
>faggot calls in the flag while we're fighting a bug breach leading to the mother of all snowballs while he fumbles with his epoch to kill a single bile titan out of half a dozen
>Driving on spore bugs>Pick up purple so we can wrap up the mission on the other side of the map>Purple is in>Start driving away>Blue gets the brilliant idea to shoot an ultimate at the charger thats behind us for maximum izzat score even though theres no way the charger can catch us>It makes the car go flying and slams into two spike plants>Car explodes and kills everyoneAre bugchasers just fucking retarded?
>>575883350I barely run out of ammo using the Epoch even. Most of times it sits there with an empty mag because I have to switch to another weapon in a hot situation and the reload is fuck slow.
>>575883891Most people that use the ultimatum are retarded. It enables retarded play.
>>575883891There is a reason they are called bugniggers, yes.
>>575883891I stopped ubering on bugfront due to constant supply pack faggots hogging all the truck's supply or ultimatum fags consistently killing my truck
can anyone explain what this is trying to convey? why are there two bars? why are two cities grayed out?
>>575883891The problem with the ultimatum is that at least 50% of Ultimatum users are constantly looking for an excuse to use the Ultimatum.At least the Pissile is treated as a situational tool, by comparison, rather than le ebin explosion dispenser.
>>575884209Perhaps looking at the colors will tell you something about what is going on.
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>>575884209>top barDefense progress.>bottom barInvasion progress.Cities only become unlocked once the progress bar reaches their node. Arbondale was successfully liberated, Nkle Mills is currently unavailable, Chatoyant is currently in the process of being liberated.
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>>575883236>t. Retard who gets stuck in a corner of the map wailing on the horde for 10mins
If they brought back Electronic Countermeasures and AA Defences as modifiers, they would humble so many people it's unreal.
>>575877236>>575877274I should have specified - a smaller chainsword secondary weapon, rather than a support weapon.
>>575884926Just use the saber, except you won't because melee is shit in this game and you never truly wanted a chainsword
>>575884916reddit would literally invade sweden if EC ala launch came back.
>>575885083>fat retards on HRT in mobility scooters slowly approching swedenOk, and?
>>575885239sweden would immediately kneel to xeir privilege and suck them off, reverting the changes. It has happened before and will happen again.
>>575884916I want them to bring back Atmospheric Interference so I can see people get domed by their own orbital spam.In fact, make it work on every stratagem, I want to see how far off my own EAT hellpod flies off.
>>575884926Im also very suprised we didn't get a melee weapon...in a 40k warbond of all things
what's in the superstore during the warbond? copium at all time low...
>>575884916Not wanting to engage is shit gameplay isnt a "humble"
>>575885593Its probably launching with the helldriver warbond so the outrider set + hyena
>>575885680Anything that actually makes the game hard is "shit gameplay". Anything that makes you think about your loadout or change the way you play is "shit gameplay".
>>575885680>game demands players to adapt their playstyles to new circumstances by making different decisions>"AAAAAAAAAAHHH THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE, THIS GAME IS SHIT!!!!"Lol, gamerdad moment.Higher difficulties should feel challenging, currently they feel boring and monotone because the moment challenge is added to the game, everyone that wants to stay in D10 shits and piss themselves.I could maybe understand this argument years ago when retards needed purple samples, but now that everyone is capped you genuinely need to fuck off.
>>575885853removing player tools wont humble anyway. It makes people collectively go "wow, this game is shit"Its like if I broke both of your legs and made you race a 5 year old and say you got humbled when you lose.
>>575837005>is literally canon in you are path
>>575886027>Higher difficulties should feel challenging,gimmicks are not challenge
>>575886075>Its like if I broke both of your legs and made you race a 5 year old and say you got humbled when you lose.If you were a person that loves extreme challenges in videogames, this would unironically be fun and interesting.But since you are a pussy and don't like videogames, you see the challenge as something pointless or inherently bad.
>>575885593Nothing because it's a crossover warbond
>>575884458thank you
>>575886209>If you were a person that loves extreme challenges in videogames,neither do because youre playing helldivers 2
>>575886334do you*
>>575879027>>575879371>>575879741>>575879790If you suck THIS much that 1s off support weapons is going to make a difference you're shit at HD2. Objectively either being in fucking visible so enemies don't even target you, or just moving faster across the map will save you more time.How fucking trash are you that you NEED 1s more to survive? Get fucking good.
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>Join match>Squad is running around like headless chickens while a conga line of spore titans chases their ass>Call in my RR>3 headshots in a row>Breach containedIt's that shrimple
Man you guys weren't kidding about the eruptor. I feel retarded just for using this, it solves so many problems.
>>575886496You can tell that this guy always got picked last during gym in middle school and now he's making it everybody else's problem.
>>575886687You can tell this guy struggles in D10 and has to get carried in /hdg/ lobbies to win
>>575886334Sadly, D10 is being balanced around most people playing it high. The game has potential to be interesting, but making the hardest difficulty hard is offensive to people that want to play on D10. I'm glad that the people complaining about the game being hard don't have to use one of the nine other difficulty options.
>>575886496>If you suck THIS much that 1s off support weapons is going to make a difference you're shit at HD2.They hated him because he told the truth not once have I thought>damn if i just reloaded a bit faster we would have won that shit is inconsequential yo
>>575886614Eruptor and hover pack are busted on squids/bugs, literally sit up in the air untouchable and just explode everything underneath you. Bots and their armour bow down and beg for mercy against it too, just can't hover against them
>>575886857Maybe it won't do much, but imagine how fast you can reload the AC
>>575886207They are.Higher difficulty missions should have gimmicks that limit or change your ability to deal with enemies and the environment. Things should feel new and interesting once in a while to shake things up. Currently everything is the same old. Even if they added a bunch more gimmicks, the game would still feel boring because the enemies are all lobotomites.>>575886334>no argument>typo at the attempt of "gotcha", second post in a row with a typo btwThe game used to have challenge, and there are many aspects of this game that make it worth playing it even without the challenge.However, I remember when the game used to have challenges, and it felt more stimulating than it currently is. Which is were my initial topic of conversation comes from. Players that want a challenge, should have it at the highest difficulty setting. Currently players that want a challenge only have gimmick and self-crippling runs as resorts because enemies and missions aren't allowed to be difficult.
>>575886094That is why I didn't mention the Killzone bond in the quote that anon you replied to mentioned. Stahl are an actual arms manufacturer, though even the companies making the LARP gear make them as functional weapons. So the differentiation between actual arms and bodykits based on Super Earth Ministry of Truth TV shows seems like there isn't actually that much of a distinction.
Faster reload will only really make a difference with stationary reloads while solo. Reloading slightly faster while getting chased by terminids would make a huge difference. Reloading slightly faster while your team keeps shooting them barely matters.
>>575887107Faster reload still means less downtime. That in turn means more time killing shit which in turn means more fun.
>>575887107Yes, it's a good armor passive for solochuds that want to reload their AC and RR
>>575886848Helldivers 2 was never hard because it was inherently hard. It was "Hard" because nobody knew what they were doing. Now the game is solved and people know what theyre doing. Its only "hard" if people don't know what theyre doing. Helldivers 2 never tried to be a hard game. You need to get over your delusion that youre some type of god gamer because you liked shitty gimmicks that did one thing and literally nothing else.>>575886914>They are.No theyre not. Removing one strat doesnt change anything because youre still playing the same game with the same enemies. Guess what, anon? You can pretend those gimmicks are in the game RIGHT NOW! Just drop into a mission and do a self-imposed challenged. I know you wont because youre a helldiver 2 player and dont actually like to be challenged unless the game forces you.>The game used to have challenge,See my response to the other anon above.
Helldivers 2 players trying to act like they love challenge is like someone saying they love hard core RPGs because they played Skyrim with survival mode on.Nigga youre clueless on what youre even yappin about.
>>575887272>No theyre not. Removing one strat doesnt change anything because youre still playing the same game with the same enemies. Guess what, anon? You can pretend those gimmicks are in the game RIGHT NOW! Just drop into a mission and do a self-imposed challenged. I know you wont because youre a helldiver 2 player and dont actually like to be challenged unless the game forces you.Disingenous as fuck.Less stratagems means retards having to make a sacrifice from their standard loadouts.They will sacrifice wrong and end up with useless loadouts, that in turn will mean their missions success rate will go down because less enemies will die, raising the challenge for competent players.It also cuts your firepower by 25% in solo, which is a massive power loss.
>>575887462>Less stratagems means retards having to make a sacrifice from their standard loadouts.Great. You can dive in and farm your izzat on your own through a self-imposed challenge and you'll quickly realize how it added nothing of meaningful value to the game.
Squidbros, I don't think I can handle another defense loss. It's getting grim on this front.
I remember people wanting the *remove 1 stratagem* modifyer to be turned into a destructible objective.>>575884916Not nearly as bad as randomized stratagems. In a game about relying on your stratagems, you now cannot rely on your stratagems. This was on top of your primaries being much weaker then they are now. However, it does fit the devs vision of "laughs per minute". As throwing a stratagem for your EAT only to get an orbital barrage is very epic and random XD.
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>>575887596Wew, you're gonna lose it when you see what the script has in store for you.
>>575887596>Win a void defense>Next attack is level 500What then?
>>575887596Joel needs to advance his plot, if he tried to make these attacks happen during a squid MO they would all result in successful defenses. Only way for him to win is to make them happen during other MOs.
>>575887596Dont worry squid bro, you're gonna get your own cadia stands moment pretty soon. Just hold on tight *kisses ur forehead*
>>575851237Send games workshop some hate mail. They're the ones mandating that lasguns look like tracer fire because some ye-olde concept art looks like standard muzzle flashes. They're sperging out in an attempt to make everything copyrightable, which is why they've gone on a crusade to rename everything with retarded latinglish names like the alpahus primus lorem-ipsium skitariius majoris minorium.
>>575887943Suckilium My Dickarius
I will never dive squids.Even if you put down a major order.Ha.Just won't do it. Nuh uh.Strategic opportunity? No way.Personal order? 250/250 anyway swigger
>>575856932Louder for all the retards in the back clamouring about "no lasgun????"
>James Workshop signed off on thisembarrassing man
>>575887642Taking EATs when you know that your stratagems will be randomized is just refusing to learn. It's like only taking light-pen weapons against automatons and complaining that tanks are too hard to kill. The point of the modifier is that you should choose stratagems that are less effected, like stratagems with long cooldowns that you can key-in deliberately. Forcing players to adapt to circumstances is offensive, however. Also, killing yourself with an orbital barrage is funny when you stop taking yourself too seriously. You need to laugh at your own misfortune.
>>575888203>Also, killing yourself with an orbital barrage is funny when you stop taking yourself too seriously. You need to laugh at your own misfortune.Holy cuck
>>575887547>no strong argument>immediate ad hominemLol. Projecting pajeet moment.I've already done countless self-imposed challenges. I actually play the game. The challenge resulting from gimmicks and self-crippling is valuable because it results in a slightly higher difficulty, which is what the highest difficulty currently completely lacks. Obviously the game would need more beside those gimmicks, but the gimmicks would be a start to shake things up.>>575887642See, the issue here is how you approach the problem.>I just want my loadout to have an orbital that could potentially kill me because I'm going in with my standard loadoutInstead of going>Since I can't predict what I'll drop, I'll make sure my loadout has zero chance to kill me by accidentAnd either go all greens and blues so you can drop them close to you, or go all reds and mines and always toss them on enemies.This would add novelty to your playstyle and way to experience the game, making armors like servo-assisted more popular and sharing stratagems more common, but obviously retarded players will end up frustrated by it.>"Oh no, but I really like XYZ stratagems! And I want to use ABC armors! ALL THE TIME!"Completely forgetting they could play on a planet or operation without said modifier, or lower the difficulty to get rid of said modifier.
>>575887272>He thinks the stoners, gamerdads, and slopbond tourists that make up the majority have "solved" the game, or ever will.This game is hard to its audience, not to the people that actually know how to play the game.
>>575888402>Accusing me of ad hominemWhere the hell did I use an ad hominem? If you're seriously getting offended because I mentioned farming izzat then you are insanely fragile and would be the first to stop playing your "dream mode difficulty." Which is also apparent because you refuse to do these things on your own>no strong argumentIf you feel the need to point this out then that means youre coping and youre losing the argument.>but the gimmicks would be a start to shake things up.It would shake things up as about as well as mindless masses shook up the squid front.
>>575888203>killing yourself [...] is funnytell me you're canadian without telling me you're canadian
>>575888475Then it sounds like Helldivers 2 never set out to be some sweatlord game. The sooner you stop this delusional fantasy the sooner you can come to terms with reality. Play a different game if you want that experience.
>>575885034The defoliator isn't bad, I'm just not willing to devote a support slot to it. I would be willing to devote a secondary slot to weaker version, though, since it's effectively a silent, infinite-ammo anti-tank weapon where the downside is needing to engage in melee.
>>575887383>Certified Challenge Lovers when the new enemy doesn't die from a single recoilless shot to the pinkie and can kill them less than ten direct hits
>>575888676Why can't it be a sweatlord game on the highest difficulty - the difficulty that SHOULD be designed specifically for sweatlords as a challenge for them?
>>575888780>anti-tankChainswords are not though. The deforestation device (and eviscerators in 40K) has more armour pen because it's a big 2-hander. Regular ass chainswords do not have the same AP and wouldn't be implemented in the game that way.If you want to go with the 40K melee theme just do the classic demo hammer with warp/jump pack, pretend you're an assault marine/termie
>>575889009because they tied progression to difficultybecause it's a co-op PvE game with quickplay matchmaking and you should feel embarrassed for expecting competitive, high intensity action out of something like that when you could just go play a singleplayer game to challenge yourself instead of leaning on teammates
>>575888957A problem with the heavy enemies is that almost all of them die in one hit from antitank. This means that the only way they can threaten a team is if they get sent in huge numbers, which is less fun because the heavy enemies don't feel intimidating and because some of them really don't work well when sent in huge numbers, like chargers.
>mines>back then they had no resistance to their own explosions>it was not an uncommon occurrence for you to lose an entire mine field from a chain explosion>they were also sometimes invisible>anti-tank mines>everyone knew they were gonna suck>forced loss to give them to us>they suck>like really suck>they couldn't kill heavies effectively>and chaff could trigger them>despite being ANTI TANKGod, thinking about stratagem balancing back then was wack. Even the 500kg kinda sucked, despite being the best one.
>>575889009>Why can't it be a sweatlord game on the highest difficultyThats not what helldivers 2 is trying to be. Play a game where theres actual mechanical depth to it and tell me helldivers 2 was always meant to be a hard game.
>>575889176What a retarded excuse to allow the swiggers to keep producing mediocrity. Even L4D2 had difficulties for players looking for an actual challenge and that game is almost 20 fucking years old.
>>575889183I completely agree.Heavies should be heavy, and it's frankly ridiculous when we get an actually heavy enemy and the first response is>"REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! I SHOT IT ONCE WITH MY GUN AND IT DIDN'T DIE????? FIX THIS SHIT!!!!"Nobody in this community who claims to want "more challenge" actually wants the game to be more challenging. They want the difficulty number to go up so they can lord their "gamer skills" over the peasants.
>>575889336l4d2 didn't have progression, expert was easy enough to be completed solo without bots
>>575888586>I didn't ad hominem, but actually I did, but your ego is fragileOk? It's still ad hominem even if I don't feel insulted. It's a logical fallacy in debates, ego doesn't matter. >would be the first to stop playing your "dream mode difficulty." Which is also apparent because you refuse to do these things on your ownI just said I do these things on my own, though.I do randomizer solo runs, I do randomizer multiplayer runs, weakest and least used weapons, armors and stratagems only loadouts runs, etc. because the game is boring and it gives me an excuse to use things and combos which usually don't have a reason to be used. And all I see from other people and anons is always the same "meta" loadouts that aren't even that good and that they can't even use properly in D10, and aren't really getting punished much for it, because the game has been reduced to a state in which even if 3 retarded niggers keep on failing, there are no consequences in term of mission success. This wasn't the case before the 60 days patch.>>no strong argument>"If you feel the need to point this out then that means youre coping and youre losing the argument."Ok, now you are just trolling or genuinely brain damaged.See, the issue here is that I engaged with you expecting intellectual integrity of some level or the ability to acknowledge your mistakes in judgement and learn from them. But you appear to be a mentally impaired nigger/jeet/gypsy, therefore no matter how much evidence or well constructed arguments I bring, they won't matter and this whole exchange is pointless dogshit.Kill yourself, you braindead troon faggot redditsoicuck.
>Shoot Spore titan with RR in the face>Dies in one hit>Land a direct Leveller shot on a sport titan resulting in a huge fucking explosion>Lives
>>575889591>ExpertThat's not the hardest difficulty.
>>575889646>Ok? It's still ad hominem even if I don't feel insulted. It's a logical fallacy in debates, ego doesn't matter.I noticed how you refused to actually point out where I used it.>I just said I do these things on my own, though.So why do you need these things to be an official gamemode? Let me answer that for you. You want it to be official so you can feel like youre superior to everyone else when someone complains about it. Don't try to deny it. All of you are spiritually indian and you just want the izzat.>Ok, now you are just trolling or genuinely brain damaged.Nah, just speaking the truth. You really seem very sensitive about these types of topics and keep trying to derail it because youre seething>Kill yourself, you braindead troon faggot redditsoicuck.I accept your concession.
>>575888402Except taking all blues and greens was a terrible idea. Even taking all reds was a bad idea since your loadout needed variety to be viable. You need to understand that losing a 45+ minute operation because of random chance is not very fun.
>>575889754>b-but the meme modego play predator strain solo with no gas or fire and you can talk about how you're a challenge lover
>>575889669They got a lotta health. I wish they breathed fire instead of ragdoll gas.
>>575889953>Realism Expert is a meme modeHoly filtered.
>>575887107MMG/HMG Tactical Reload 3.5s -> 2.45sAutocannon Tactical 2s -> 1.4sEpoch 3.3s ->2.31sRR reload cancel 5~ -> 3.5~Speargun 2.5s -> 1.75sIts pretty great for all supports, theoretically it might look meh but you probably will feel the difference when used in combat
>>575889176Holy shit man. I'm not going to play OSU. Playing a team-game and cooperating to beat something hard is a completely different experience from playing alone. Also, the idea that "leaning on your teammates" is bad is completely absurd. Playing with a mutual dependence on your teammates is a unique and rewarding challenge. The hardest difficulty in this game should REQUIRE teamwork. If you don't want to play with your team, play a lower difficulty. I don't understand why the hardest difficulties have to essentially be removed from the game. You can progress perfectly fine on D7. The idea that the hardest difficulty should be easy because otherwise people would progress slower is completely ridiculous. >>575889953Playing solo and playing as a team are too completely different types of challenge. The enjoyment you get out of it is completely different because the skills it requires are different. It's like saying that if you want something challenging you should play Tetris. It might sound like an exaggeration, but the game really does feel entirely different when you play with your team instead of fighting solo. If you can't recognize this, then we must be playing different games.
>>575889669I stopped bringing leveller and just use rocket pods + laser cannon instead.>Rocket pod spore titan>Its now weak enough to die from 3-4s of laser, faster if you aim at the inner fleshSometimes you get lucky with the pods one shotting the head
>>575890102>whole second shaved off reloading the epoch>speargun maybe also a niche pick nowOh yeah we're so fucking back
>>575889843> I noticed how you refused to actually point out where I used it.I don’t actually know what it means. I just know that sometimes you can win arguments by saying stupid shit in Latin
>>575889843>So why do you need these things to be an official gamemode? Let me answer that for you. You want it to be official so you can feel like youre superior to everyone else when someone complains about it. Don't try to deny it. All of you are spiritually indian and you just want the izzat.Completely wrong answer.I want the game to be harder, because even by in-game self crippling, the game feels easy. The game should be allowed to feel hard and challenging again. Otherwise they should simply rename all difficulty levels to something that isn't misleading and make it fully clear the game is NEVER allowed to be challenging ever again.I want to be given more tools for the game to actually feel harder.I don't give a shit about validation or feeling superior, I'm my own man, I understand the circumstances of the Geworfenheit and human condition. I cast no harsh judgements without concrete evidence, and I'm not a feral beast obsessed with hierarchies and making others feel less. All I care about is the game feeling like a game and having proper difficulty settings, instead of feeling like a self-wanking application for people pretending to be gamers but that don't even like videogames.>>575889870Back in the days it was still very doable, and nowadays it would be a cake walk because of the variety and powercreep.
>>575889669take a look at the https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Spore_Burst_Bile_Titanthere just isn't anywhere you can 1hko him other than his head
>>575890495Nice falseflag, you dumb nigger.
>they're starting the difficulty argument again>they're going to keep saying they won't limit their loadouts or play solo because that's not the specific kind of difficulty they want
>>575890495Going to quote you.>no strong argument>immediate ad hominemYou lost the argument and never had one and your entire reason for wanting this "hard" mode is to stroke your own ego.This is the last (You) you will get from me but feel free to keep screaming into the void
>>575890703I do limit my load-outs, and I don't want to play solo. Just because you can state what I believe doesn't mean it's ridiculous.
>keep saying I do all the things I ask for, like limiting my loadout or play solo>random nigger: "you aren't actually doing that">other random nigger: "You see, I'm falseflagging and replying to myself so I can make it look it like I won"You stupid troons are hilarious in your own mentally ill ways.
>>575890102>2.45s MG reload>1.5s AC reload>3-4s RR reload*gulp*....surely they'll increase the spawns now right...
>>575891008this post is too schizophrenic for me to understand
>>575891154Any post with an animu pic can be disregarded completely, weebs have worthless opinions
>>575891238It's from a videogame, but ok
>>575891238Go back
>>575890102With the added ergo, it essentially turned MGs and AMR into a primary isn't it
>>575891238Wrong site, lil bro
The biggest problem with this game is that playing with a full team is just playing solo with three other guys. Using actual teamwork is fun in a way that playing solo will never capture. A lot of the things people complain about are actually meant to prevent soloplay, but they don't blue-screen your computer as a punishment so people don't realize it. It's like people complaining that hunters can kill you from full health in Left 4 Dead.
reminder that darktide made havoc just for the players who were begging for higher difficulty and it's a fucking dead game mode that's only played by like 20 people in two regions>>575891285she's got that gacha halo so I don't think it qualifies as a video game
>>575891512They should make havoc easier so more people would play it. They should make every weapon do double damage and then spawn twice as many enemies. The game would probably be more fun like that.
>>575844480Multiple people in the previous thread were literally saying True Grit is bad.
The game should punish soloplay by throwing every spawns towards solo diver instead of rewarding solo divers because the spawns all goes to the other 3
>>575891629it is bad, because the armor it's on is uglyI only wear heavy armors abdomera has mods for, and only the ones that look good
>>575891676>the meta is now to have one rundiver while three guys clear the mission unimpededWhat's the next step of your master plan?
>>575891285Doesn't mean it's not animu>>575891426>>575891481>weeb defence forceGo back to your gacha containment threads
>>575891512>people that want a challenge and pay money for it should simply have that challenge taken away from them foreverIf only you were born white or at least japanese...
>>575891850Every bot drops, bug breach and squid warps should follow every player like detector towers continually calling into your position.
>REEEEEEEEEE SOLODIVERSthe solutions have already been stated numerous times, it's on arrowhead to implement them>disablers that both spawn regularly and specifically when a player wanders very far away from the team, set to hunt them specificallyother co-op games already do this and it works, the only issue here would be arrowhead's incompetence, likely implementing the disablers with no sound queues or making them literally impossible to avoid>make it so only the host can call resupply, nerf the supply packthis should've been done fucking ages ago, I'm sick of some nigger on the other side of the map denying me a resupply, and everyone knows the supply pack is too strong
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244904080990/76561198001481307D10 democracy decides, default is the mo because we're good little goys
>>575891676Solodiver here, I'd love that.Let me kill billion of enemies alone while I clear the mission and the other 3 fags get nothing and clear POIs or whatever.
>>575891875Back to your containment site, faglord
>>575891926if only you weren't born schizophrenic, I didn't say any of those words and I am not the voices in your head
>Laser + backpack weapon would have been perfect>Didnt do itJesus christ.
>inb4 arrowhead adds detain bubbles to squids that you need teammates to shoot you out of
>>575891238>>575891875
>>575892290They really need to add more enemies that are impractical to fight solo.
>>5758921392/4
>>575892249kill himself
>>575892397>Notice how there are boards specifically for those things
>forced teamwork slop designThis kills the game.
>>575892606What does the word slop contribute to this sentence?
>BotsNeed to continually spawn gunships at solo player>BugsNeed to continually spawn a unique patrol of stalkers toward the solo player>SquidsA patrol of flying overseers continually spawn on the solo diver
>>575892574nigger the entire site is based off of a japanese message board
New>>575892678>>575892678>>575892678
>>575892574Who are you quoting?
>>575892397Is this /a/? No it's not? Then you have no power here, be quiet brat
>>575892687The real issue is that the enemies aren't dangerous enough for solodiving to be hard.
>>575892675conveys disgust, like the word niggerfor example, you are a nigger
I still think they should release a 2nd 40k warbond with a bunch of niches missed. Backpack-ammo laser weapon (stratagem), primary melee weapon (harder to justify secondary which is saturated), boltgun primary, heavy bolter emplacement stratagem. Unfortunately plasma is too saturated and would not be really functionally distinct, large laser support weapons already accounted for. The Orbital Laser is already a fair stand-in for a lance strike.
>>575892796anime website
>>575893001You can keep spouting that, doesn't make it true
>>575874045It's always so funny to watch you guys try to reclaim "snowflake" when you regularly kill yourselves over pronouns. Everyone's seen the bodycam footage of the blue haired she/her melting down in college over the officers instantly clocking she/her as a "him."
>>575893415Shut up retard
>>575893415the website is based off of 2chan, a japanese message board, because this place was made by weebsget used to it, faggotjust because you came here in 2016 to visit the politics containment board and got hooked doesn't mean you get to decide what this place is
>>575893783>this place was made by weebsAnd has since grown to have weeb and non-weeb boards. You are currently on a non-weeb board in a non-weeb thread, so settle down tyke.>2016Lmao you wish
>>575894052all the boards are weeb boardsyou are a stupid nigger who will be told this no matter what board you go to
>>575894192*taps sign*>>575891238
>>575894456tap your frontal lobe with an icepick
>>575894678I'd say the same to you but it seems you don't have one
>no ukill yourself
>>575894678he's still reeling from that blow, good job
>>575894678bodied that nigger, well done lad
>samefaggingtypical tr*nime troon behavior
>it's an anime website!>no it's an autists website!>fake it's an edgy website!>no it's>and it's>it'sSHUT THE FUCK UP YOU ARE ALL RETARDED
Guess it's time to post anime gals with guns for the next few threads
Peace between Super Earth and the Automatons!
>>575864881>>575865230imagine this exact scenario happening if you continue to shill her
>>575887027Stahl Arms is a arms manufacturer from killzone it isn't a run of the mill name in hd2 so the helghast exist in universe
