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High Skill Bracket Edition

>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=680756685198854910

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>575867434
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Cheesed to meet you!
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i lost 7 games in a row and got placed into emissary. this is hell, never had games this bad before, i was phantom before
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i went 4-4
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who /brickedup/ here?
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FROGCHADS REPORTING IN
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New leaked hero.
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Guys I had a thought
What if you picked the hero you wanted to ban, and then just swapped to the hero you wanted to actually play
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Why is brick a moth and not a pillow?
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>>575913741
you were boosted to phantom you mean
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>>575913845
by who, i always play solo
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>>575913613
I know they said these matches would be rough, but these are like actually hopeless. When you go like 4/6 and that's actually one of the better KDA's on your team.

I'd be fine with blaming myself but this is out of my control, it's actually just coin flip mmr. Whoever gets more Eternus players wins.
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First for Yamato LOVE LOVE LOVE
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>>575913871
by me
i live in your games
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>As the season starts, everyone will enter a calibration phase for 8 games. All players will have a soft reset of their prior Rank, maintaining some history of your previous performance relative to other players to help seed you initially into the calibration games. Players can only exit calibration at a max Rank of Oracle VI.
Does this mean that if i was Eternus 4 before the update, I will be fucking Oracle now?
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Sex with Venator
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>>575913962
i had same experience, dont want to play for couple days atleast
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>>575913746
What rank were you before? The highest I saw here was low oracle
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>>575914001
Hell yeah brother.
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>>575913962
>not playing unranked for a week before calibrating
based retard
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>>575913613
BOY i sure love this new matchmaking it's so fun and totally not the same onesided garbage as the old one!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>575914021
Lucky for you Quasimorph is releasing TODAY...
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I just got back from a holiday.
How is the patch? Did silver finally get buffed?
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>not taking advantage of the new system to level up lesser heroes that you might not have unlocked yet but still kind of want to play
I don't understand you people
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>>575913994
yeah but you'll have to play against the equivalent of eternus 4 players to rank up out of oracle, unless you want to wait a few weeks until the timmies have caught up

>>575914028
eternus 6
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>he's rushing to get a rank instead of waiting for the eternus players to climb
ishygddt
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>>575914021
yep
>>575914061
I mean, they want feedback, they gave us a heads up it will be abysmal dogshit.

Also anyone notice the sheer amount of disconnects in ranked?
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whats the point of the whole MM update when initiate/seekers can still hover their mouse over mirage and press m1 to pick him and climb all the way to low eternus doing so?
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>>575914081
You got your ass carried and you're still bitching
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>>575914098
well thats fucking retarded
i cant wait to have to win 50 games more than i lose to get back to eternus
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>>575914231
>i cant wait to have to win 50 games more than i lose to get back to eternus
you didn't belong in eternus
phantom is your home now
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Do you put your Deadlock MMR on your Tinder profile?
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>game 1
>team constantly brooling, always runs over to join fights and never backs out
>game 2
>team constantly farming, will never help you and instantly leaves any engagements to go farm
both games are winnable but getting them back to back is a nightmare
dealing with the mental whiplash of trying to adjust from a team of brool monkeys to farm cucks is the hardest part of the game
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>>575913817
reported this to the authorities
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>>575913613
>more Russian memes added to Deadlock
Бaзa
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Matchmaking was never a problem, you were
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does anyone know how to fix this?
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>>575914171
yeah? i'd rather play with people on the same level as me not completely stomp them or be stomped. are you subhuman?
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Silver if Valve wasn't woke
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>>575914624
bait
metro is eternus
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>>575914421
Mind ill dotafaggots will disagree but brawling is fun and the true essence of the game, you're supposed to fight the enemy, the more the merrier.
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>>575914825
Metro is a video game GENIUS that was high ranked in a ton of other games
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I've been trying to think of something funny brick isn't very memeable by itself
we need an adjective
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>>575914825
If it weren't for /dlg/ I would have no idea who that even is, and I still don't really know, eceleb cancer is not for me
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Why do the Hazes in my team always go 0/10? Same with Paradox
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>>575913613
Why would you want to be a rat or flying rat over a moth, though?
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>>575915026
99% of our "ecelebs" are OW refugees and trannies
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>>575914709
Go play better games
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>>575913728
I hate this thing
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>>575915069
Moths only live like 3 weeks max
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>>575915284
>I'd rather live 20 years in trash than be a moth
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>>575914794
Not scary enough
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do you think yoshi had himself a little giggle when he came up with fucking brick?
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>>575915512
he laughs every time he uses chatgpt to generate another "balance" patch
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>>575915512
What brick?
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>>575915638
Initiate is bricklow
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obscurus...
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>30 mina games
>12 games won
>cant play my newly found main in ranked
i just want to get my rank bros but fuck having a job.
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>>575915747
mods work again?
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brickus... dickus
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>i now have to play the same few characters forever or be forced to play unranked shitslop because some seeker FAGGOTS think that the reason they are hardstuck seeker is because people are first timing heroes in their games
I KNOW VALVE HAS SOMEBODY READING THIS THREAD
FUCKING FIX IT
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>>575915957
always have for me
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I... am a seekerGAWD
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>>575916016
what do i need to update? my mods dont work rn
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>>575916034
You need to fix the gameinfo.cgi file or whatever it's named, it gets rewritten when there are bigger updates, so you need to edit it again to look at the mod subdirectories like you would've had to do when you first started modding.
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>>575916034
dunno
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how am I doin?
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there was always going to be growing pains with any kind of major mm patch so i don't know why you guys are so surprised i think it will turn out fine in a few weeks, your mmr on the backend is basically the same as before and your placement is relative to your old rank, anyone in your games right now was roughly your rank before the patch
i was eternus 6 and all my placement games were the same e6 players and nightshift pros as before and we all get put in oracle 5-6

i have ascendant friends who are getting placed in oracle 1 so soon you will have old-ascendant players on win streaks getting put in lobbies with old-e6 players on losing streaks and then the mm will start to really feel raped
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>>575915994
you're aware that 15 wins on a character is literally practice rounds, right?
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>>575913746
your rank before the update matters i was e6 went 4-4 got oracle 5 they are probably trying to filter out players by forcing them to grind before it was just too easy to get to eternus
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>>575916257
"practice rounds" is something that an alchemist shitter says that thinks they need to warm up to hop into a game and play well
it's a fucking video game not the champions league final
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I like gargoyles
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why doesnt ranked have priority settings?
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what does this say about me
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>>575914081
I can't imagine how ugly you are
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>>575916572
You like it up the bum
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>>575916474
>to warm up to hop into a game
you don't fire up an alt to get used to a hero you've never touched before?
do you even care about ranking up?
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>>575916474
Then play it like a video game and stay in unranked, shitter
>>575916476
They're cute
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>>575916257
nta but i don't agree there are characters i can't queue ranked on that i am more than comfortable playing
i started learning ivy recently and she's not hard to play but she also clicked for me, so i'm 11-2 and i had good impact in almost all of my games with her so far
I'm way more likely to perform well queueing up as Ivy compared to if I queue as Shiv or Paradox, who I haven't played a single game of since 2024

>>575916318
yeah it does for sure i had all the same players in my placement games too i had to play against dlns winners duo queueing as pocket and mirage in my placements
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>>575916572
you like to jerk off to sweaty men wrestling
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>can't play Drifter that I've been spamming for this patch
>but I can play the Vindicta that I stopped playing a long time ago
Good one Yoshi, guess I'll just throw some games by missing every snipe.
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>>575916786
>>575916730
i was asc 5 (average ranked game recently was lower because i was playing with some lower ranked friends)
you do not need an average of 30 games on a new hero to pick them up to your average skill level, if you do, you have a learning disability
unranked games are going to be significantly lower quality on average than ranked games
this change is utter dogshit
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>>575915994
>>575916172
>>575916476
>>575916572
Nobody cares about your blog.
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>>575916986
I don't care
Play unranked, shitter
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>>575917106
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>>575916803
yeah i also hate oses , abl and dimov people are already abusing duo just make ranked forced solo its not that hard
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I'LL HUNT 'EM DOWN......
>*slams big jungle camp creep*
>*spends another 10 seconds slowly m1'ing it down*
>*shows up to fight late when everyone's already dead*
>*retreats, sits under walker*
>*can't defend 1v4 so backs and lets it go
>*zips out to blue*
>*slams lane creeps*
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>575917727
this is literally how my games have been going
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Matchmaking is even worse and all the crippling issues with the game design are on a spotlight again, incredible job valve.
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>>575917727
Silver downplayers never stop self-reporting.
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for what reason would they allow duo queuing in ranked. it's either abuse it or get raped by people abusing it.
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>>575917797
you do know duo is a RESTRICTION, you could 6 stack before
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>>575917957
>you could 6 stack before
not in my rank and that does not change what i said
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>>575917797
maybe so people could play this multiplayer game with at least one of their friends
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>>575918093
yeah they added a game mode just for that. two of them, even.
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>>575918128
three, actually
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>>575917762
>on a spotlight
snow orc, i'm supposing?
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>>575918128
if ranked is soloq only, then tourneys should also have random players in random teams
>I'm an abrambrums player
>we're playing against lowkey ack
absolutely disgusting
you will have no coach, no team coordination, and no plan and you will like it
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>>575918357
wait for battle cup update
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>>575917792
Damn you've been doing this for MONTHS
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>>575918424
I'll wait for 2 rems one cup update
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Ok so I was thinking the loss protection games are basically mmr inflation, you can go 50:50 indefinitely and eventually you will climb because of those games


In addition since they moved the percentile based ranking into e+ they kind of soft acknowledged this. Basically you can just grind and eventually hit eternus and that’s where the real ladder starts, I think some fighting games do this. Long term there will be a big glut of hardstuck grinders in e1 but seasons might break this up if frequent enough. The other elo hell is probably that compression area right near oracle V and it should slowly walk from their to e1 over the course of a season
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>>575919089
I hate all this EOMM stuff. Everything should just be percentile based with no inflation/protection/winstreaks. And it should be transparent too.
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>>575917797
They needed an escape hatch for the terminally boosted otherwise half their streamers quit
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>>575919089
that's why they need the seasons to kick people down the ladder every few months so they can keep up the illusion of growth
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>>575917762
Of course it’s worse it was a reset
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>>575919378
Winstreaks is technically not eomm but Smurf detection but it has its own issues and I’m not a fan either


>>575919493
Thats basically what they do with the economy lol
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ok, but can I throw my games so I can stay in low ranks?
I don't want to play in sweaty high rank and just want to terrorize low ranking lobbies with Haze.
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>>575918425
Silver Derangement Syndrome is incurable
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>>575917106
I do
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>>575919942
Probably not easily, if you catch a ban you can’t play and you have to fight against the inflation
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>>575916474
imagine downplaying warmup
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>>575919942
just play standard mode
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>mirage gets siphon, EE and toxic bullets
>game is over
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>mvp 3 games in a row
starting to think this vyper lady might be really strong
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>>575920418
>if you catch a ban
Of course I'm not gonna run into enemies and feed 0-20.
I'm just gonna lazy gaming and play while watching youtube on the side.
If playing horribly is bannable, there's no initiate & seeker anymore.

>>575920542
What is hidden MMR
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>>575919942
just play bots
>but thats no fun
you want to play against people at the cognitive level of bots. there's no functional difference
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>dominate early and mid game
>team decides to full send rift fight when enemy has resists
>i call it out and they STILL FUCKING FIGHT IT
>they lose it
> they go mid
>entire game turned from this point
oh my fucking goood this is fucking annoying, this dumb fucking retard nigger ivy actually trolled so fucking hard. we won the fight with out downed patron and this fuck nigger goes to the fucking rift to 1v1 a drifter who is most fed when we could have gone mid or whatever. then slowly team dies 1 by 1 to this fucking drifter as they stagger I JUST NEED THREEE FUCKING WINDS TO DO RANKED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>575919089
it's just multiple levels of filtration
>hyper casuals stay in standard
>retards and regular casuals stay in metal ranks despite the system trying to push them up
>actual sweats end up in eternus where match making can start mattering
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>>575921295
>lose game
>:(
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>>575917727
This is what makes her S++++ tier you know, she can shoot jungle creeps now
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>>575921339
dude i get like 2 games a day when i come home from work and this is my second game. my games are just filled with actual nigger bots. this game was so fucking winnable it genuinely was a stomp. im so fucking exhausted
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The old rank icons just had more soul.
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Deadlock should not be considered a form of interactive entertainment. Matches are so predetermined, it would be inaccurate to call it interactive. The players are so bitter and filled with hostile intent towards their teammates that it can not be called entertainment.
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>15 WINS per character to play in ranked
I wouldn't complain if i could actually get the fucking characters I WANT TO PLAY, I fucking double prio my favorite heroes but nope!
how about you let me pick just ONE for standard and let me sit in queue until I get it
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After having spent all day and night playing ranked and forcing myself to use mic, its made me feel something I can't describe.
Listening to these random people just hit it off like that, having conversations and joking around, meanwhile I'm only doing call outs and even flat out ignored during a match where I just stopped talking.
It reminds me of my sad pathetic life up till now in my attempts at socializing and how I'll always be alone.
Just had to get this off my chest, thank you for reading my blog.
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I think it’s been confirmed that all the giga feeding 0-20s from the long before were retards with 4 wins
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>>575919378
It's not an EOMM or at least not just that. Like he said, lots of fighting games do it this way and honestly since they started doing it this way ranking systems in fighting games have felt a lot better, especially if you're good. When you finally get to those upper real ranks (which doesn't take much time if you're good and going on win streaks) it feels like an actual elo ladder that works. I think one of the biggest issues with what you're suggesting is games change too much and people are always coming and going. Chess tried to solve this issue for years with ranking systems, how do you make a ranking system that deals with a wildly inconsistent number of games between players? How do you create a system that doesn't incentivize getting a rank and then never playing again so that you don't derank? These issues pre-date video games and when you dumbasses start screeching about EOMM based on almost nothing (BTW the original paper on EOMM from Netease came to the conclusion it wasn't worth using just FYI) it just demonstrates you probably know nothing about how difficult an algorithm this is to solve.
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>cant play ranked cause matchmaking keeps giving me leavers and people going 0-8 on my team in normals
epic
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>>575916986
>average of 30 games
sounds like you don't know how to play them characters if you think you will have a literal coin flip to win or lose, sounds like you are just letting your teammates decide if you win or lose
if you have less than a 60% winrate with a character you really don't know how to play them, idc about your whiny coping
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do you get penalty from leaving unranked?
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I didn't realize how good I had it at my current rank, placement matches have placed me with actual fucking retards who ignore quadruple CC'd hard carries right next to them
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>>575917727
You forgot
>*ult procs*
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>>575921419
SAAARR
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>>575922781
Now you understand the difficulty curve isn't linear. The hardest matches I ever had were in Emissary, people are either new, retarded, or titled out of their fucking minds and can't see straight. The most basic level of caution or observation is not practiced.
>just carry them
Herculean effort. I probably have a higher winrate in Phantom than I do Emissary lobbies. It's actually horrifying.
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>>575922781
I had a game earlier where 4 of my teammates couldn't break a walker vs 1 defender
and at the same time 3 enemies were trying to kill me under a walker I was defending
(the last 2 were on blue jerking each other off)

my teammates gave up trying to take it and just retreated, I killed 2 and the last ran away.
was really baffling to ask for help, no one know what is happening, and then just absolutely annihilate people who just keep getting stunned by the walker
I don't really want to play with or against retards, it just isn't fun.
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>>575922873
Stop downplaying Silver you retarded tranny, she's still S+++++ tier
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>>575923064
>perform well in placement match, abrams is borderline walking into enemy spawn despite walker still being up
>perform badly in placement match, rest of team going 0/13
Dude fuck this man
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>>575922475
I will concede I used the term incorrectly. Call it Engagement Optimized Ranked Progression (EORP) instead. Still, using retention trickery to slightly sabotage a skill-based matchmaking algorithm is poor practice.
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>>575923164
>lane partner dies 2 times
>lane next to yours gets raped and has 5 deaths
>they rotate to your lane and kill you
>you end up 3/5/5 just defending walkers
>rest of your team all has 10+ deaths
I should just play a lane dominator and start this snowball in the other direction
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>>575914171
onesided stomps are never fun, regardless of which side you are on
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>>575923238
Yeah I guess you missed my point that you don't know that it "sabotages" it. You are making an assumption based on nothing other than "video game companies bad". I just explained to you that before video games were even a thing, this was an issue in Chess rankings and that through the history of that we see that your suggestion of the "simplest" algo simply does not actually work as well as more complicated ones. Like did you know the concept of rank decay predates video games? How could it be designed to retain customers in a video game if it was literally created as a concept before online multiplayer video games even existed? Did you think about it my last post for even one second? Did you DARE to actually go look up the history of chess ranking systems and learn how difficult an algorithm it is to write? Of course not. You're talking to someone who has literally read papers on this stuff, it's why I knew you used the wrong term.

Yes, it's true that a company might prioritize retaining players over setting up the most fair matches but companies like Netease have found that's basically not worth the trouble because it makes the system really complicated and complicated systems are prone to breaking. That's why in Marvel Rivals they just do the forced quickplay bot matches, they found it was a much simpler solution that achieved a similar result to EOMM. My point in telling you this is, this stuff is complicated and you are making assumption based on nothing other than "video game company bad".

Furthermore, my personal experience (which I already explained to you) is that having a ladder designed to fulfill the needs of the casual masses that THINK they want to play ranked and then a real elo ladder at the top has worked wonders in fighting games. So my assumption, is that's why Valve is trying it, other industry colleagues have tried it and found success in getting fairer/funner matches for everyone.
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whats the point of heroes who aren't wraith infernus mirage shiv
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>>575923874
you like playing them or like their personality/design or both
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>>575924459
yeah but losing automatically when playing against the 4 mentioned heroes isnt very fun
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ok, just came back to play the game.
It's still as unfun as before.
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>>575923874
apotheosis
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Name a better feel in this game than playing sinclair into doorman and making him sit in the hotel every time you see him
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>>575923874
>>575924812
>losing automatically when playing against the 4 mentioned heroes
Shiv has one of the lowest winrates in the game.
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is playing supports a trap
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>>575925163
Depends on the support
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>>575925163
If you are bad, sure
Most supports have overloaded kits so if you can't carry that's on (You)
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Matchmaking is legit worse than before
Wow I heckin love 2/3 lanes CONSTANTLY having some retard who goes 0/12 to a hyper carry
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>>575925060
devious
and you know they're pulling their hair out, too. because every doorman player i've seen is a tryhard nigger who starts petty feuds and does 0 macro
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>>575925482
>Matchmaking is legit worse than before
They straight up said they expected it to be at first. Do you think you're dropping some kind of knowledge bomb?
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>>575925681
So then why hasn't it worked in my favor yet?
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>>575925748
Because the universe is against you for being a faggot.
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>>575925748
Honestly? Probably means you're in a lower percentile of skill. Sucks to hear anon but what was your rank before? I was in lower Eternus before and it IS working in my favor because the ranks were clearly collapsed and I'm playing people that used to be Phantom or even lower. It IS making me win a lot and people like me are why your games suck. You're blaming your teammates for being bad and feeding in lane but is it really their fault if they use to be Oracle and are now lanning against a former Eternus player?
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>>575925919
>Honestly? Probably means you're in a lower percentile of skill.
That doesn't at all explain why I'm being paired with the shitters who are being stomped beyond belief every game.
It's not me who's getting fucked in every game
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>>575926084
But you're also not good enough to carry them, some of us are. I don't even notice when someone feeds in lane usually because I focus on my own game and trying to carry it. I'm doing it with Seven too who isn't even that good right now. If you jump on Wraith and you can't carry those games you aren't better than the Ascendant/Eternus player on the other team, sorry anon. The best advice I can give is learn to recognize when your in a lower than average rank lobby, don't expect good macro and just focus on farming like an animal since you will be able to outfarm less efficient players in games like that. You also didn't answer me, what was your old rank?
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>>575926319
Phantom 6-Ascendant 2
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>>575925919
>You're blaming your teammates for being bad and feeding in lane but is it really their fault if they use to be Oracle and are now lanning against a former Eternus player?
Nobody on here gives a fuck about that. They'll cope for themselves whenever they get a rough lane but if their teammate has one, even during a reset where they can legitimately be going against an E6 player with 10x the playtime, it's because they're objectively dogshit and don't belong in their rank.
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>>575926084
He just explained it. People queuing now are dedicated patch notes readers. Eternus players that are used to fighting Eternus players, everyone else is cosmetic.
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>push lane out so I can get some yungle
>stare intently at the one eyed monster for 2 seconds as I vaporize it
>look at minimap
>every lane is pushed to our walker and my teammates are nowhere to be seen
why does this happen so frequently
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>>575926434
They decided to broooooooooowl
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>>575926434
>stare intently at the one eyed monster for 2 seconds as I vaporize it
You should look at your minimap during that time instead and you'd be able to tell what happened.
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>Just be eternus and the matchmaking update is great bro!
Hmmm this will do wonders for the playercount #s I'm sure!
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>there's a buffer to stop you dropping ranks too fast
These fake ranked systems that let you cimb even when your w nrate is 50% or less really bug me.

Just to be clear, I am BAD at competitve games. But any time I climb the ranks in these games, I can never be sure if I'm actually improving at the game or if it's just the system pushing me up because I played a lot.
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>>575926662
Yes actually, they'll come back for the next season rank reset. They people leaving now will get ragebaited into rage queuing a month later,

I love live service!
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>Play like shit
>Someone else gets flamed instead of me
That was close
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I love how Billy has zero fucking counterplay or itemization except for Unstoppable. What are retarded nigger hero
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>>575927087
He got gutted in the most recent patch he lost a whole 1% damage on 1 ability!
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>>575926662
>Play at the start of a new MM update where they even explicitly say it's going to be volatile because it's calibrating
>Be surprised when your games are volatile and dictated by top players still getting calibrated to higher ranks
It's amazing how retarded the average anon is nowadays.
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>>575923874
Because some of them are Viscous Kelvin Lash
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>>575927242
Games are not being decided by top players, they're being decided by bottom players.
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>>575927087
Bro just don't get close to him.
Yeah I know unless you're Vindicta guns in this game tickle the enemy if you're not next to them, but just walk away bro!
Let him take your objectives and go to spawn, nothing he can do to you there.
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>>575927087
Literally get good
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>>575927820
>Let him take your objectives and go to spawn, nothing he can do to you there.
Works against Silver, why not Billy?
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Holy fuck drifter is a disgusting nigger character right now it's insane.
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>>575928332
>silver
>taking objectives
LMAO
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What are games like in BrickHEAVEN?
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Why is a Frog a Sentinel? Probably the oddest of the new ranks
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>>575914001
Careful Mina
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Any items for Paige that are unexpectedly good? I'm currently just building the standard items on her so just seeing if there's any items I should consider.
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Post Holliday's ass.
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>>575929024
just do barrier support paige and latch on to your m1 like a moray. her playstyle is braindead and you get inherent value just by being active with item/ability CC and barrier uptime on the people that matter every fight.
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>>575922435
>H-hey guyth leth win thith!
>Look out thilver!
Enjoy your pity (you)
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>>575929024
The best thing you can do on here is buy Divine Barrier and then whatever support counter items your team needs (Slowing Hex, Knockdown, Decay, Disarming Hex, Curse, etc.) Knowing which game to get which counter items will help immensely, also actually using them at the right time.
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>first game
>solo lane because im better
>at lvl 7 it becomes impossible because it turns out my teammate was a fraud rushing 3 6400 items on haze
>lose because no one buys healbane or knockdowns
literally down to fucking seeker tier games again HOLY FUCK END YOURSELF YOSHI
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Normal games are fantastic right now. Everybody's trying their best at both winning and not flaming their teammates because they need the wins to play ranked.
Better make the best out of it now, soon the queue will be filled with russians going 0-3 in the first 5 minutes and leaving the game immediately.
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>>575929074
No, I don't think I will
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shiv is the worst hero to follow into a tight little room or closet into, but who's the second?
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I know they’re probably gonna be altering a ton of stuff as ranked goes on, but I’m really worried this is going to end up being like tf2 MyM if they aren’t super on the ball with it.
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>>575929968
anyone with a fuckhueg cc
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I don't understand how you can lose while playing Ivy, especially if you build spirit. 3 of those loses were caused by someone going afk in my team
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>>575930325
Yeah she's OP as fuck
No hero should have base 4 stamina its fucking retarded.
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>>575929968
Billy
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>>575929968
Venator, easily
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aoe abilities should not go through walls.
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>>575930912
what if i press f with rebuttal
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>>575930413
>grey talon
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I can only play Dynamo and Mohammed
Who are some other heroes for people who can't aim or skronkle boost drift
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>>575931425
Grey talon is OP too
Glad we agree ivy and GT need nerfs.
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>>575931305
Some should, some shouldn't.
Naptime and Blackhole? Fine with that.
Scorn though? Nah fuck that
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>slowing hex
>disarming hex
>silence wave
>focus lens
>curse
should not exist
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>>575931483
Those were my original mains then I picked up mirage. They are all pretty tanky and then you can play support/front/carry
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fuck this calibration shit ive had to solo mid boss twice
my team jsut sits in their base brooling with the whole map of neutrals up
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>yea dooood this update was needed for these BOOSTED eternus players to be kicked out
>places in brick
>yea man now I can truly climb with this new mode to e6
>downplays silver in thread
>yea man just forcing people to grind ranked before all the actual eternus players leave oracle and the timmy infestation comes is the move
>cries on reddit and /dlg/ about mm
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>>575932374
I'll try him out, haven't really played him since the scarab rework
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>>575931483
Billy
you don't need to aim trust me.
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>>575932480
u mad retard
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>>575932480
>>downplays silver in thread
Literally no one has ever downplayed Silver.
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>>575923856
> is that having a ladder designed to fulfill the needs of the casual masses that THINK they want to play ranked and then a real elo ladder at the top has worked wonders in fighting games. So my assumption, is that's why Valve is trying it, other industry colleagues have tried it and found success in getting fairer/funner matches for everyone.
aren't a lot of chess ranking systems (ie elo and elo derived stuff like glicko) designed for 1v1? and fighting games are 1v1
but its more complicated for team games?

I think this makes the problem a lot of team games have is a lot harder than chess in the current day, as while other 1v1 games can look at the last 50 years for elo and nearly 100 years of other rating systems (harkness, ingo, etc) for chess prior and copy them nearly wholesale
but a team game is completely different
especially because most serious team competition that would require a rating system also uses static teams so each team can have its own rating rather than individual players and again sidestep this issue

actually having all players with their own ratings and determining what is a "balanced" match isn't an easy task
and simply have equal ratings on each side is obviously an awful solution as 4 players with 100 rating and 1 player with 600 vs 5 players with 200 is not anywhere near a balanced match.

Would love to know more about other historical rating systems used if you got anything off the top of your head you could point me towards for reading.
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>>575917665
rubberbanding is one of the biggest issues I don't know why since deadlock runs on 60tick servers?
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>>575927047
>horrible match going 4/7
>lane partner at the end of the games is 2/15
what do you do
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wtf
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>>575915069
Why not mix?
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Alright fellas, who is the best 1v11 hero right now?
As in if I want to carry games on my back, wipe teams, push buildings.
Need to be able to duel, win fights, farm fast, clear fast.
Preferably not reliant on snowballing and can more consistently control outcomes by farming.

Is it just Seven? Is there really no one else who has both the team wipe power with his ult, the dueling potential with his gun buff & stun, and can push fast with lots of aoe + gun buff for buildings?
Wraith feels like she needs to do clown shit to get to team wipe status
Venator can't handle the pressure, especially if its more than 1 person, and really just wants to be able take duels and snipe with his ult
Victor is nerfed too much and not longer has the long term durability to wipe a whole team, he lacks the damage or the survivability depending on what you build.
Haze is just a meme and is a pick off bot
Yamato needs it to be a series of 1v1 or 1v2 to do it
Infernus can do it but hes vulnerable to cc so if you need to take fight after fight you just run out of steam and protection and need your opponents to do retarded shit, same issue as victor but even more vulnerable

Is it really Seven or bust?
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>>575933917
Silver obviously
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>>575915392
IDK man, im stiff.
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>>575933231
NTA but the clean solution is everyone plays a billion games with different people and they naturally average to where they belong

Everything has a tradeoff and trying to delineate which player got carried is not trivial

I made this map earlier of all the lit I went through
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>>575933917
if you have hands - silver
if you have no hands - seven
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>>575916476
I LOVE GARGOYLES
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bro why the fuck can't you queue with a 3+ stack at all in ranked
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>>575934841
because you're boosted and deserve to be lower
SOLO CHADS RISE UP
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>>575934841
You can play standard if you want to cheat
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>>575934841
>unironically a boosted stacknigger
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>>575933172
>downplays the downplaying
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>>575934759
That's a LOT of Ivy games
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>>575923856
>a real elo ladder at the top has worked wonders in fighting games
>So my assumption, is that's why Valve is trying it
I find it really doubtful Valve is taking cues from a niche ass genre with notoriously awful online. With devs that needed global lockdowns to figure out making their games playable online outside of a tiny island should be a priority. I'm not sure what exactly makes you think it's working wonders either. I've seen more complaints about the rank systems in fighting games than I have for any other game outside of like Marvel Rivals which does similar shit. People have made their own ranking sites with glicko for fighting games it's so bad.
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>>575934759
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i like pressing 4
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>>575934430
Interesting
Matchmaking always makes me think of something like the quadratic knapsack problem (and i'd say it is NP-hard) where its trying to optimize with so many constraints, you can trivially verify if a good match is made, but a matchmaker deciding on match can make a "wrong" choice because the "right" player comes along a second later to make it a better match. But how valuable is that second to wait? what are the chances that someone more suitable to make a better match comes along, and how long will players wait.
Factoring in time, expectations of player populations and increases, what even constitutes a good match at certain times (as it obviously can't just run forever), and so many other things make it seem crazy.

To me the complete matchmaking solution just feels impossible, it doesn't seem like a feasible problem to ever actually solve and I always find it far more interesting to look at more of the individual problems and better solutions to them.
Accuracy in rating and how quickly some systems always get there is always what I find the most digestible and interesting.

Thanks for the references, time to go read all the papers you mention in your accuracy section
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>>575935626
What's the weather like in Tel Aviv?
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>le epstein xD
>le israel xD
Every deadlock match. Please get new material.
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>>575935887
just buy knockdown lil bro
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>>575936308
….or silence wave
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>>575936230
it's just safe edgy for cucks. remind them of that fact.
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>>575936492
sw does jack shit thou
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>>575936641
meh late game it's a good shred. just pair it with something equally annoying to bait dispels and swap. hex + silence wave rapes wraith for instance
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>>575933917
mo and krill
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>>575936784
we're talking about mcginnis 4 thou
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>below X amount of total wins you need 15 wins on a character to play them in ranked
>between X and Y total wins you only need 10 wins on a character
>above Y total wins you only need 5
thoughts?
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>>575936878
Its fine as is /xiv/sis
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>>575936864
Exactly, why get knockdown for a microsecond stun? She’s on the floor
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>>575937001
>the entire point is to interrupt the ult
>she rapes your entire team while shielded by kevlar and your 200 extra damage does nothing
okay pisslowbro
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>dogshit white trash merican mutt decision is good because i was exposed to lead as a child
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>>575936967
>new batch of characters release
>if you like 2 of them you have to spend like 20+ hours to begin to play them in ranked even if you're Eternus
nah
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>>575930009
wdym
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>>575933778
dah troobadoor gon getcha! eheheh
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>Grrr we hate Graves, gut this character NOW yoshi
>ok pisslows, Graves gutted
>Miku starts dominating
>AAAAIIIIIEEEE SAVE US YOSHI
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is it safe to queue ranked? surely all the E6 people are fighting for Eternus again instead of smurfing and clogging up the placement queue, right?
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>>575937127
The silence doesn’t interrupt?idk I’ve honestly never counterbought a McGinnis ult
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>>575937724
Silence doesn't interrupt anything
Only stuns stop channels
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>>575937713
Why do you say stupid shit like this? Everyone's rank got reset, how can they be "smurfing" placements? Kys retarded white mutt
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>>575914439
who do you think plays these games?
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>>575937881
And interrupts but that's just Curse
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Has the censorship been fixed with the recent update? Having those ugly tacky black voids under paige and minas skirts really makes the game unplayable so I want to know if thats fixed.
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>>575938052
You can just make paige naked with mods
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>>575938052
Don't you have a gacha to play?
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>>575937191
Yes. Get fucked.
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>>575937921
>Pure
here's your russian representation bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTuphknpXmI
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>>575938152
Nigger.
>>575938135
Imagine if nintendo released a mario game where you cant jump but you could install mods to add jumping back in, would that be acceptable to you? If the panties are censored the product is defective.
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>>575938052
Ivy's chest is as uncensored as ever
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>>575937892
because I know I can shit on everything up to Ascendant players but I can't touch E6 players.
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My top 3 reload animations
-Doorman
-Billy
-Paradox

My top 3 Zipline animations
-Victor
-Celeste
-Graves
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>>575938494
>imagine nintendo wahoo
ameritoddler spotted
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>>575922939
>Herculean effort. I probably have a higher winrate in Phantom than I do Emissary lobbies.
My Ascendent games felt easier than Oracle games because people knew how to play the game and would listen to my shot calling. Even if my opponents were mechanically better as well, that could be defeated by directing my team who could perform adequately. The game becomes an RTS game where you control one of the hero characters.
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>>575938649
Vindicta used to be a top 3 zipline animation until it was nerfed.
Always thought it was amusing.
She really likes the way the breeze feels on her blussy.
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how exactly am i meant to unlock ranked
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>>575937921
>slavs play Valve games
Um, we know?
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>>575937191
>you need to actually know how to play the character before you start being a useless Seeker turd in ranked
Yes?
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>>575938494
>Imagine if nintendo released a mario game where you cant jump but you could install mods to add jumping back in, would that be acceptable to you?
The mind of the Gachacoomer truly is a sight to behold.
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>>575938670
Imagine if a new quake game came out and theres no strafejumping or guns, but you can mod the strafejumping and guns back in.
Imagine if a new dark sould game came out and dodge rolling and attacking are both disabled, but you can mod them back in.
Imagine if a new street fighter came out and there are no combos, but you can mod the combos back in.
Would those be acceptable to you?
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>>575939320
>removing pivotal gameplay mechanics is the same as panties not being visible
Your mind is poisoned.
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>>575939280
So that would be acceptable to you? You want mario games where you need mods to jump? You want quake games where you need mods to shoot guns? Ive never played a gacha btw. Cope again troon. If the panties are censored then the game is defective and doesnt work.
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>>575939320
You don't have mod in your character's abilities in this game, don't worry.
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>>575938920
try winning hope this helps
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>>575939542
See >>575939505 or >>575939571, retard.
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>>575933917
Seven probably honestly.
McGinnis you at least have an annoying farming phase but that's also a good second.
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>>575939505
No my mind is not "poisoned".
Panty shots are a basic gameplay mechanic of third person games with female playble characters, its that simple, they are as stable to third person game design as hold back to block is in fighting games. Aestheics are a part of gameplay. Pantyshots ARE core gameplay components.
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scourge needs to be removed, or ally cast only
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>>575939659
See >>575939757 retard.
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>>575939757
>>575939907
See >>575939505
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>>575939838
what if it had cd mechanics like divine barrier?
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>>575939954
see
>>575939659 , >>575939907
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>>575939320
Your retarded analogies don't even make sense given Deadlock is a new IP.
>Imagine if a new game came out and theres no strafejumping or guns, but you can mod strafejumping and guns in
Yeah, that's a lot of games.
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These critical health voice lines make me feel so bad for them sometimes
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>>575940036
how about it's only purchasable on victor, or if it's placed on anyone but victor it drains your health instead
that's a good fix actually, make scourge drain your hp to do what it does
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Pantyshots are a core aspect of gameplay and censoring them is the exact same as releasing a game that just blue screens my pc when I launch it.
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panty schizo vs silver sissy, who wins
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How is this pantyshot jackass still getting (You)'s
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>>575940276
unstoppable force vs immovable object
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>>575940191
sounds stupid.
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>>575940276
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>>575940121
Pantyshots are a core aspect of gameplay and censoring them is the exact same as releasing a game that blue screens my computer at launch.
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this one incel is giving you all a fraction of a taste of what one microsecond in gacha generals feels like
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Can you censor something that was never in the game or concept art to begin with?
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>>575940546
if you go to a gacha general on your own accord you know what youve signed up for.
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>>575940546
>entering gacha threads to begin with
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>>575940327
well it's a stupid item so that's perfect
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>>575940565
If theres a black void under the skirt its censored. The skirt voids are a blatant fingerprint of feminist censorship. Thats the exact same thing as releasing a game that bluescreens my pc at launch.
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Non-sequitur reply. A no would suffice.
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>>575940546
>incel
Wrong. Cope again. If you think its impossible to have sex and also be pro artistic freedom at the same time that says a lot about you. Sex doesnt make people like censorship the way you do.
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Gacha designs MOG the fuck outta deadlock
*insert calico png here*
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Imagine not having a void fetish.
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>>575941065
Can we trade Pulchra for Calico?
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>>575937921
>31/80 from the USSR
grim...
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yeah seems like this thread will always be dogshit. old gods update really killed this general.
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idk what you're talking about, you can look right up graves's skirt and even see her tummy
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How do i Mcginnis /dlg/? I've been doing a spirit ultbot build but sometimes i just get hard focused on during teamfights with every CC out there
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>>575941482
deserved
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>>575941065
i like Calico but i wouldn't say no to sexy barefoot brown Egyptian catgirl

>>575941352
the only thing left to do in the game is climb
and climbing fvcking sucks
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>>575941352
Imagine how much better everything would be if deadlock was just a real actual playable game that isnt censored? If you dont like the state of the thread just know it would be much better if they fix the censorship, they certainly can. I dont know why they are deliberately keeping the game defective like this.
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>>575941352
The game is not even fully released to the public and we already have the
>X patch killed the game
cancer that dota has

I can't wait for the game to go public, it will help drown and wash out the insanely high concentration of trannies and other invalids that infest this game like a parasite.
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>>575941451
Post proof, unmodded.
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yes lets bring in more coomers that sounds great
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>>575941928
unironically it might even save this general and drown out all the jaded retards who contribute nothing
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whenever people ask "how do i mcginnis/ivy/dynamo/infernus/seven/wraith/lash/mirage/victor" i just die of cringe like just press one button to win the game stop asking this question for heroes they added for accessibility reasons so browns/trannies/women can also feel like they are good at the game
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>>575942474
seeker GAWD
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>>575942474
This but every hero in this game
>>
DEAD
FUCKING
GAME
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>>575934430

I don't disagree with what you said but I think presenting it like this is a little misleading. The diagram isn't saying anything novel aside from the taxonomy, which you don't compare to other views or suggest why it works better/worse. "bad early calibration drives attrition" aka people leave when the MM is shit. "tighter pairing slows calibration" aka precision takes more time. Why dress these in a graphic with fancy terms aside from to seem smarter? You don't even mention the Glicko paper, which is probably one of the most accessible papers in the topic, and glicko2 shows that calibration can be handled at least somewhat at the rating level.

Also you didn't make the map, did you? Looks like some mermaid diagram with a web container around it, like you asked Claude or something. It's rude to mislead people like that, and it makes people wonder if "you" actually went through that literature or not.
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>>575941482
I legit don’t really get the ult hype is so slow and counterable
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>>575941928
maybe if there's a content patch that doesn't draw in thousands of troon tourists from x the thread will be salvaged, you're probably right.
but maybe they'll be the only people left here and they'll scare everybody else so we will just leave them to rot here.
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>>575943169
>like you asked Claude or something
I'm assuming it's the guy who posted some long ass AI generated document about matchmaking awhile ago that nobody read.
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>the boosted ascendant troglodytes are spamming matches to get into oracle while you are busy with your life
oh god the horde is coming
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>>575943162
steamcharts and this game lives rentfree in your balls
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It's only with the ranked update that I realized how disgusting the AOE spirit damage meta is. Not as bad as the prior gun meta, but still diabolical.

Like I can have 47% Spirit Resist and still get nuked by Paradox bomb spam in 3 seconds or less with equal souls.
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>>575943169
Glicko is in there that’s what true skill is and I didn’t say it added anything novel it was just a generated map of what I went through while learning. You really have to get over your slop phobia bro nobody is gonna take 20 hours to make a throwaway image anymore
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i came back for the matchmaking update and i'm still as shit at this game as i remember
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>>575943837
>It's only with the ranked update that I realized how disgusting the AOE spirit damage meta is
It took you this long? It took you until after they finally started nerfing it a bit?
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>ivy is the only s tier character in both regions
interesting
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>>575944246
Torta
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>>575944246
ivy...lay off the taquitos for a while
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>>575944363
It’s pretty thin data right now but she was on top before the patch too
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>>575944497
iirc she wasn't as high in na and eu ivy's generally build more supportive too with healing tempo/healing nova
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>>575943261
>ultbot build
>no kevlar
>no indom
>no unstop
>ult bad
what the fuck are you guys even building?
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>>575943261
the ult used to have like twice the range and twice the damage at lower boons
they reigned it in so you have to build pretty hard into coming online with ult as opposed to before where it was crazy strong with just 3 AP and no items
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>>575944550
>Your tires are my size
I don't get it.
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humans have this weird thing where if person A is toxic first, then person B, C, D, E, F, G, and H can be 10x toxic afterward and completely justify it through righteous indignation

totally not seeing the irony the entire time
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apparently there was a shocking amount of retards on mic that were either one tricks or had little actual playtime
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>>575944457
>the word that 4chan learned this week
>gotta say it everywhere xd
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>>575944586
Wander was spamming her as m1 in na and he had #1 for a while. I like highdockers build the most
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>we're losing
>guy starts whining about what items I've bought
>we lose
>see stats
>I have almost double his player damage and 7 more kills with equal deaths
every time
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>>575944910
>gun ivy
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>>575944845
pubes are reddit safe horny
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>>575914092
>Gun falloff range reduced from 20m-46m to 17m-42m.
>Slam Fire now does 100% bonus damage against NPCs (troopers and neutrals, not objectives).
Lycan Curse precast time increased from 0.2 to 0.3.
>Lycan Curse precast movespeed reduced from 7.6m to 2.5m.
>Lycan Curse T1 reduced from +20% Resists to +15%.
Looks like more buffs to stupid shit while receiving nerfs to things that actually matter
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>>575945119
yes
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>>575944661
I know right? And the craziest part is that if the game just wasnt censored there would be no toxicity at all anyway. The skirt voids cause so much pain and drama and toxicity.
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>>575945247
>worst hero in the game
>nerf it
???
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>>575945506
>52% winrate eternus
>worst hero in the game

huh
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>>575945504
lowkey i'd let Paige bully me
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Feels like Apollo players are played exclusively by small dick humans
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>>575945593
>eternus is the game
Who gives a shit about 0.01% of the playerbase, if they're so good they can play around it.
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>>575945740
i have a massive penis and play apollo as a gun carry
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>>575945792
she's the worst hero in the game if you're a bad player
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>>575946050
That's literally every hero, what a worthless argument.
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>>575944661
it's not weird at all. if a monkey steals food from another monkey the entire pack will beat that one to death. it's deserved.
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>>575946203
so then she's not a bad character at all and you're just a shitter?
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DANKE HERR DOKTOR
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>>575945504
you missed when i posted the uncensored version here first
funnily enough i found them a few more times in low prio on my other accounts
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>>575946316
What makes Silver good? What does she even do?
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>>575946210
Deserve is a moral claim. You are anthropomorphizing the monkeys
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>>575945504
I don't understand what is going on, and I am glad that I don't.
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Should I be building torment pulse on Celeste?
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>>575946316
Are you retarded or just pretending?
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>play wraith
>ten minutes in
>throw 1 (one) card
>230 damage
its so hard playing this B tier hero who is so weak early. when is yoshi buffing her?
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I hate how spaced out the boons are. fucking 24k diff is insane no?
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>>575946514
>You are anthropomorphizing the monkeys
The whole world did that and called it russia, nothing new.
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>>575946472
bola is the best disable in the game, slam fire is the best burst ability in the game, her dive tank ult forces them to run off or focus her unless she kills everyone
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I'm getting real tired of the silver upplaying discordtrannies, they're making me want silver buffs.
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>>575946203
>bad player playing Venator
>never deals damage to the enemy team or their base, dies every fight with 0 contribution
>bad player playing nahui MaKrill BLYAT
>has 6 gorillion HP to stumble around the map aimlessly without chainfeeding and presses 4 on an enemy hero while his team is around to guarantee a kill
pilot skill matters a lot for the hero choice.
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>>575946595
Probably not no. You generally want to build around your M1 or your ult and that doesn't do either and you generally want to be so far above people it won't be hitting them. If you build around your M1 understand it's not a gun build, it's that you can do shit loads of spirit damage with her M1 after using the purple fire breath so the M1 items you want are largely attack speed and purples to boost your M1 (like quicksilver). Ult is pretty self explanatory, get Lightning Scroll, Refresher, etc. Be an ult bot.
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>>575946840
You missed yesterday’s thread? Mo skill was proven to be harder than venator
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>>575944089
I mean, I knew it was a problem, but in ranked people are really brutal about the AOE slop. Playing it casually it was bearable, now it's just cold.
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>>575946724
LMAO
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>>575944845
>pubes match eyebrows
SEX
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>>575947116
waiting for a counter argument
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>>575946658
No because you start earning souls more quickly in the late game.
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>>575947170
Not going to waste time arguing with a troll, try to be less obvious next time.
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>>575946724
none of this is true. in fact the exact opposite of what you just said is true. tons of heroes can even 1v1 silver in wolf form and win, it happens to me nearly every game I play as her
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>>575947191
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I wanna fuck shiv and silver so much hnnnnggg
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>>575947341
>>575947312
not an argument
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>>575947341
Least obvious samefag
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>>575947462
Ok let me take a crack at this

Silver is bad because she buys stalker which is a bait item for retards
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>>575947662
you mean the core item on strong frontliners that everyone has to run away from? (abrams, billy)
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>>575947662
She doesn't have any good t2 weapon options at all really.
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did you know you can wall jump off your own guardian
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incredible investment. a whopping 86 damage into -8% resists every second!!!
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The Potential Woman "debate" will never end and I blame Yoshi for it
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>>575947489
lol you're right, silver is actually top SSS+++ tier, vegas said so he can't be wrong!
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>15 minute queue into match cancel
lol
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>>575944550
>I think I can save you some Monaco
I don't get it
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>>575947740
Abram’s and Billy players would fall into the retard category yes
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we all need to kill ourselves
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>>575947910
Nightshift must be destroyed. Its their fault she gets nerfed every patch
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>>575946724
>Bola is the best disable
?
>Slam fire is the best burst
Alright that is some excellent bait I'll give you that
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Hidden King's deploy music is god tier, but Archmother has better lines
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>>575948074
nah just you
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>>575948271
>zero refutation
I accept your concession
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ye it is
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it's ok to admit that you're not a good player. silver requires someone able to play a character that switches between skirmisher and a big dive tank at the right time. just switch to ivy or paige.
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>>575942474
I want to enjoy infernus but I can't play him for shit, I am ALWAYS useless, he just doesn't compute with my brain
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>>575948650
>being too stupid to just press 2 and run into people
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>>575948468
no i am gonna take you with me
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Saying slam fire is the best burst in a game where people complain about spell aoe nukes all the time is retarded at best, wilful upplaying at worst
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Nerf Vindicta. What a broken character.
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>>575948761
you're probably one of those silvers that whiff all the shots right
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>>575948650
>playing for afterburn
>too hard
i honestly hate you more than infernus mains
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>>575946724
>>575948271
built in capacitor
i wouldn't really call slam fire the best burst but still really good even better when maxed
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>>575948741
>>575949076
I'm sure you guys have an above 50% wr on everyone you play and are just held back by your team
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>>575948761
AoE spam comps are a thousand times worse than slam fire lol

geist, celeste, seven, paige comps are brutal to deal with
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>>575925163
Support your team by doing some fucking damage
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i only have 50 wins on silver and cant play ranked
i quit
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>>575949447
>this ability is really strong for her
>UHHHH WHAT ABOUT ALL AOE SPIRIT SPAM COMPS

swing and a miss
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>Slamfire is the best burst in the game
just pop metal skin nigga like, use warp stone to dodge a shot LMFAO
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>>575949260
no, i just think infernus has a simple to understand kit and people that fail to grasp it need to spend more time with it instead of saying "waaaaah im too retarded to understand how afterburn gives me free space in fights, waaah flame dash gives me free afk farm in camps for me to also push wave but it's still too hard, waaaaaaaaah everyone runs away from my ult despite every half decent build including warpstone"
seriously, i don't know how you can play him poorly.
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>Win lane
>Gank other lanes to win their lanes
>fall off late midgame because retard
>get carried by teammates anyways
Works everytime
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>>575949987
Except I didn't say any of that, all I said was I'm bad at him, all that extra bullshit's from your own head
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>>575948761
There's at least one constantly trolling silver upplayer in here, he's most likely from some ecelebs discord
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>>575949606
>this hero has [thing] that is a strength of thiers
>THEREFORE I NEED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT
you're just a little bitch
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>>575950203
yes, it's an anti silver conspiracy my sister
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>>575950375
There was an anti silver conspiracy since day one thoughever
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>>575949447
Celeste's AOE's are a joke, it's more like warning shots that she's planning to all in dive or use her ult.
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>want to play with other Eternus players? Just play with brick players for 60 games first, bro
>want to play with other brick players? Just play with eternus players for 60 games first, bro
I'm sure this won't make unranked mode any more toxic, of course not.
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>>575949987
lies, you said it, i read your mind
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>>575950519
literally the same thing as the rank inflation around OGNB where people thought they were getting different matches but it was all mental
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>>575950519
I mean that's literally what a placement match is supposed to do.
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>>575950375
You're so fucking obvious
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>>575951048
obviously what?
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>>575950519
or just download a bot that plays while you sleep. because the matches are so unbalanced you'll probably get 2-4 wins per night even if its a 5v6 and valve doenst ban cheaters/bots anyways
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>>575951243
>can't play ranked with active sanctions on your account
do you honestly expect to get 60 wins before getting reported into low prio
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>>575950496
yes but Geist's and Seven's are not
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>>575951401
a bot that just runs around and doesnt feed? i doubt people will report that because they will just think you're a new player
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>>575951475
if you wanna start grinding brick accounts to sell to content creators be my guest
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>what are you? some kind of stupid mole man? kimoiii~~~ you're so creepy!!! hahahahah
>w...w..wait! don't come any closer! what do you think you're doing!!! I'm serious!!!
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>>575951739
>buying bricked accounts
Do content "creators" really?
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Ivy is such a skillful hero man...
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>>575951903
WE HAVE YOU NOW
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4-4 in my placements ended in Oracle 2.
Time to carry myself back to Ascendant. Holy shit the players I get are literally subhuman.
>Get midboss off my impeccable macro
>Team refuses to do anything with rejuv
>Despite me literally begging them to just listen to me
>Frontline never went in
>I end up forcing myself onto a lane to take a walker in hopes my team does something
>they're just sitting in the jungle
>I decide they're not worth of the win
>I go afk and watch as they seethe impotently at me
Niggers better listen up you're dogshit at the game and I'm actually good so if you want to win you listen to me. I will throw games because I'm not worried about winning my next because I play hypercarries. These niggers really think they're good which is the funny part.
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>>575952331
I cant help but notice you omitted Silver from your list of top heroes. Why do you misrepresent her like this?
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>>575952538
>Get midboss off my impeccable macro
what does this even mean? in high elo you can only contest midboss if enemy has no ults or 2-3 of them are dead
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why exactly shouldn't i pick wraith and just play the game like it's overwatch?
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>>575952331
Wow, they finally killed doorman
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>>575952554
She's too high to be shown, the only S++++++++ hero in the game and don't let those silver downplayers tell you otherwise
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>>575953152
they killed him with the door close timer and have just been beating his corpse since
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>>575952776
Cuz you probably weren't very good at overwatch either
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>>575952331
>no shiv
>no venator
bros? I thought these operators were overpowered? Why do these easy to counter champions have the highest winrates??
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>>575947793
I really miss when torment pulse was good.
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haven't played since the patch that added the egg item
how's apollo doing
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Guess having to rack up a total of like 5-10 wins on other heroes gives me an excuse to play the game while Silver is in the gutter
Shiv's fun but who else to fill out my draft?
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>>575951243
what is it with skitzos imagining bots everywhere
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I don't corner boost, I don't air drift, I don't fronkle accel
I press shift, warp stone, 4, and win.
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>>575952721
It means I had all the lanes pushed up because my team were brooltards.
>2-3 dead
well they're brooltards so 3 of the enemy team just died and I had all lanes pushed up and I called mid.
Too bad my team couldn't brawl in a lane to help me get a walker.
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>>575953903
you don't fronkle accel?

hey guys we have a fronkcel here!! report and send to low priority for a few years
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>>575953485
yeah it's shocking how poorly it scales even with boundless + max spirit investment
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>>575950153
>I help my allies get ahead in the early game where they are weak and I'm strong so they can carry me in the lategame where I'm weak and they are strong
congrats on discovering that dota is a team game
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>>575945504
Oh shit I played with that guy before, unless this is a copy pasta.
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>>575945504
ypipo
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>um it takes 20 hours to learn a character to play it in ranked guys!!!!
it doesnt even take fighting game players that long to bring their characters up to speed and fighting game characters are way different from one another than deadlock
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>>575954458
win more then retard
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>>575954534
>any sensible ranked system in any other game
>if you play a character you are bad at, you lose and thus drop in rank
>shartcock
>we won't even let you play a character you are 10-2 at your previous rank on because you haven't met our completely arbitrary limit and you have to commit yourself to hours of unranked suffering
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>>575950583
meant for >>575950193
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>>575954779
And thank god for that. No more first time useless turds like you, Seeker GAWD
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>>575954000
Typical fronkfag
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>hey guys this is my first vindicta match
>lol what do I build
>0-15
>NOOOOOOOOOO WHY IS VALVE REQUIRING US TO WIN 15 TIMES? YOSHI IS HITLER
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>>575954779
You're retarded ass compared a 1v1 game to a 6v6 game, the requirements have been fantastic and filtering dumbasses like you out of games
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>>575943425
link? i'm basically asking to get ragebaited but whatever
>>575943912
glicko and trueskill are two different systems from two different papers in two different eras with two different goals what are you talking about?
quit prompting and read the paper bro it's like 5 pages https://www.glicko.net/glicko/glicko.pdf you can skip all the formulas and probably still understand the process
ai is fine but sometimes it gives people like >you the idea that they understand a topic, because a prediction engine spat out analogies that kinda sense, and then they parade that """knowledge""" (misinformation) around
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>update available on steam
>restart to apply
>no patch notes
>zero mention of what it does
they do this like once a day, why are they like this
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>>575954950
>>575955120
>>575955219
>two days ago you were winning games at your assigned rank on this character
>but now you can't play them because seeker players invented some bogeyman from projecting their own learning disabilities onto everybody else, now go play 10-15 unranked games which are a strictly worse learning environment than ranked
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so what do I pick to still have an impact against all the E6 smurfing in my Oracle lobbies?
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>>575955858
Works on my machine
Just win more and you wouldn't have had this problem in the first place.
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>>575955898
doesnt matter what you pick, the other lanes will look like this
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>>575955898
Is he smurfing or is he trying to get back to Eternus because Valve just hit the reset button?
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>>575956005
>sugma
reddit username = instaloss
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>>575955898
Only way you have e6 players in your lobby is if you were eternus before the rank change
and if thats the case why you're crying.
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>>575954458
r6s requires rank 50 to play comp, and that shit is a miserable grind, and lol requires you to buy champs in order to play. i don't want to hear shit about the current system when 90% of players that have been playing since 2024 exceed the current requirements
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fix this fucking bugggggggggggg
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>>575956413
old league of shitters required lvl30 or so to play and gatekept lower rank players with their old shitty rune system, it's just more crocodile tears from shitters
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>rem gets to gigabuff his minions so you have to spend as much time killing a single one as you would a whole wave
>also constantly healing his ally
>said heal doubles as a FREE escape
>movement interrupt ability that's also just a fucking nuke
>respectable gun damage to force you to avoid his shots
>the moment they spawn he will be sapping your teams' sinners
>doesn't need damage to do his job so he can just build tank and spirit utility items
why is rem like this
why are so many of these fucking heroes like this, WHERE is the fucking tradeoff for having all of this? no M1? lmao who cares just throw a pillow for more damage than any m1 carry can do in the same timeframe pre 30 minutes
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>>575956641
still need 30 on League but it's a lot faster nowadays
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>>575956641
plus, like i was saying, you have to buy 20 champs in order to play comp (with the free ones not counting)
"f2p" my ass
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lol @ all the people who want to play ranked on a completely new character and dont give a shit about their teammates. low trust society/individualist society
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>>575956413
>>575956641
this isn't about the minimum amount of wins overall you fucking retards, that's completely fine.
it's about the minimum amount of wins per hero, which hurts one tricks (good they fucking deserve it) but also hurts people like me that play lots of different characters.
i could pick up any character, dick around with them in sandbox for awhile, understand their builds from a combination of looking things up and past match experience and be relatively up to speed with them since ive been playing for a long time and usually bounce between ascendant and eternus
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>>575956146
what's the difference? his skill is higher than his mmr.
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is there a way to hide my stats on statlocker?
I've noticed an uptick in people on my team looking up their teammates on statlocker then any little thing that goes wrong they bring up statlocker. Can I sue statlocker for unauthorized use of my data?
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>>575956717
Because he has no actual match impact other than healing and his WR reflects this
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>>575957134
The difference is Valve literally told you this would fucking happen and if it's that much of a problem that you're going on here to whine why not stay away from ranked a few days while things settled, dumb faggot.
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HOLY FUCK WE NEED A CONTENT PATCH ASAP I CANT PLAY THIS STALE SHIT ANYMORE


WRECKER SAVE US
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>>575957306
>wrecker

who tf is this scrimblo
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>>575955858
Yes anon, you're a very special case and are a super good player, but for the rest of the community this is a good thing, just win the 5 more
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>>575957038
>which hurts one tricks
branch the fuck out
im a one trick vin main and i have the required wins on 8 fucking heroes just by virtue of playing for 2 years and having a lot of heroes marked for in roster
sometimes, you won't get your hero, even if the game had draft. be okay with that.
>usually bounce between ascendant and eternus
oh, nm, you're lying
>GUISE THE NEW SYSTEM SUCKS, I ONLY HAVE 300 WINS ON MY OTP AND CAN'T QUEUE FOR FOR COMP ANYMORE, IM ETERNUS STG
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>>575955275
You have cds(Claude derangement syndrome), I didn’t claim to be an expert or anything I just shared some of the stuff I was looking at and the sloppa triggered your spergout

Here is some more for you,
“Two different goals” is overstated. Both are Bayesian extensions of Elo that track a distribution over skill rather than a point, update proportionally to uncertainty, and inflate uncertainty over time. The TrueSkill paper cites Glickman explicitly and positions itself as generalizing that line to teams. Treating them as members of one family is standard in the literature, not an AI hallucination.
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I get that vyper is countered by metal skin + phantom strike but holy shit is this hero insufferable
if they're smart enough to buy stamina mastery they are uncatchable.
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What were one tricks with 900 games on one hero exclusively planning to do if their pick is banned
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>I NEED TO PLAY RANKED NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
>Do you meet the requirements?
>No, but I swear I'm really good, let me in NOW. NOW NOW NOW
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>>575957748
Don't ask them that
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haha what the fuck you can use items during mo's combo now.
seems hard to pull off but a majestic leap kidnap sounds fun.
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>>575957748
You take the L. Its not the end of the world.
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AAAAAAAAAA please nigger STOP clicking melee when you're in lane and don't have a stun it's not going to workout for you! Just don't press it relax for five fucking seconds you do not need to dive past our wave to go light melee the enemy and immediatelly get parried and die!
NIGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
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>>575958001
Atleast have the decency to leave the game instead of being an absolute faggot ruining the game for 5 other people
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>>575957550
do i look like a one trick you retarded faggot
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Second placement match and get a seven on my team who I wouldn't be surprised is the little brother of the actually person who uses this account who has never played this game in their life.
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>>575957748
they abandoned and hopped on a smurf.
they also increased the abandon penalty with this major update.
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>>575958078
>Is able to play ranked
>Bitching about it anyway
?????
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>>575958193
you are clearly retarded and likely a jeet so let me phrase it in a way you can understand
SAAR ITS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PLAY CHARACTERS THAT I WANT WITHOUT DOING THE NEEDFUL UNRANKED GAMES SAAR BECAUSE CLEARLY I CAN PLAY AT MY RANK WITH MANY MORE CHARACTERS THAT I AM QUALIFIED WITH SAAR
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>>575958539
Jeetbroken
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This guy is the one who goes 0-8 in lane
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>>575958539
Tough shit, get the 15
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>>575958539
no you cant lmfao no way you're as good at someone with no wins vs one with 50 wins
retard ass nigga
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>>575958867
>a person with 50 wins and 70 losses is better than somebody with 10 wins and 5 losses
your exact argument btw
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>>575916986
>you do not need an average of 30 games on a new hero to pick them up to your average skill level, if you do, you have a learning disability
Yes you do, on average.
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How the FUCK is it possible that a MATCHMAKING update makes the game run worse???
Are they intentionally de-optimizing the game behind the scenes?
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>>575958078
>that entire roster
>ritualist on wraith w/ 44 games
anon, i really don't think this is helping your case like you think it is
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>>575959051
Wonder when this guy will realize what a self own this post is
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Haze is a retard character but I still would not trust somebody with zero games on her in ranked
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>>575959051
the 10-5 person is more likely to be a smurf than the person with 120 matches
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Yeah this game is broken
im not an initiate.
It's almost like this game was made by nigger for niggers
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>start playing casual to unlock ranked
>three out of four games has at least one person go 0/10 within 10 minutes
actually how
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>>575959314
BRO IS BRICK RANK KEK OH NO NO ANON
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>>575959314
>I'm not an initiate
Yes you are, it's right on the screen. These are the bricks screeching about not being able to infest ranked instantly
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>>575959051
i mean, yeah, statistically speaking, that is his argument, and it's a correct one
well, you know, besides the fact that you skewed the numbers to make yourself look smart (it didn't)
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>>575959314
>Account status: BRICKED
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>>575959516
>>575959554
Nope.
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>>575959442
>all the one tricks forced to actually play different characters and learn the game
>they are exposed as being turboshitters
lmfaooooooooo thank you yoshi HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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I started in the rank below Ritualist and I already crawled out
My placement match teammates were literal asscheeks uncarryable tho
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>>575959524
so you'd rather have somebody who has a 40% winrate on a character on your team play them because they've played them a lot than a person with a 65% winrate on the character because they haven't played them enough?
you are interminably retarded
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>>575959662
i've noticed this. i've been playing normal with a friend that gets too tilted for ranked and they've been some of the easiest games i've played in months
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>>575959731
>would you rather have somebody who knows how to play the game and likely has had a lose streak early on whilst learning it

yes
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>>575959314
It's been buggy for a bit now.
For me it didnt even complete the calibration matches before putting me in a rank 2 ranks below what I was before
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>>575959731
You actually need it explained to you that someone with 50 wins will know the character better than somenoe with 10. Admit you're wrong already holy fuck
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>>575959731
you are inventing people that don't exist to support your non-existent argument. kill yourself. better yet, go play wraith because clearly you need practice with her
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>>575959314
BRICKED
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>>575954458
>look at fighting games
>realise how much practise it takes to become competitive at any one individual character
>realise you now have to familiarise yourself with how to play into every single other character
>lose interest and go play something else
I don't understand how fighting game players do it. It's like a sky high skill floor before you start having fun.
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>>575960076
>the 50 and 75 seeker mcginnis main that plays while high and talking to his furry friends on discord and builds the default build left to right every game knows the character better than the 12-5 eternus flex player with a thousand hours in the game because they played it more
your literal argument btw
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>>575956292
people aren't understanding that they just lowered people into ranks. oracle 6 players were the eternus 6 players. oracle 5 players were the eternus 5 players. etc.
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>>575941451
>>575941971
Still waiting on that unmodded graves upskirt that you claim totally exists and is real
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>>575960240
>needs *that* many fabrications to make his argument "correct"
You lost
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>>575952538
You are all the same rank my nigga
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>>575960208
basic mechanics carry over to other characters. but you need to be aware that fighting games are way more training mode/lab heavy than deadlock at the moment. they have to grind all combos and test solutions for specific matchups all the time
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>>575959314
>this is your average dlg denizen who posts their opinions on the game
BRICKLOW DEMONS
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>>575960240
Unironically the 50/75 knows more nuance by now but hes a slacker who only goes melee builds because its funny.
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Good patch Yoshi, now remove all the movement bug exploits for another wave of tears.
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>>575956717
the heroes dog shit and you can stop him escaping by just hexing. also he's hard countered by pocket who is S tier. rem is straight up C tier at best and only because of macro pressure/big sleeps
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a fucking rat rank and I had more wins than losses
probably because I missed one game because of disconnect and it counted as loss
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crazy no one can answer this except one person
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>>575959314
BRICKED.COM
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>>575960819
lolno
there are players who had 6 losses and 2 wins and calibrated in emissary/oracle
you need to take personal responsibility
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>>575960967
fuck no I don't like doing that
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>>575960885
Sorry I only play with my stack anyway. So im just not gonna bother with rank. Im just not gonna do it ok?
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who the fuck approved this color combination? I can't read shit.
also when are they going to let you see the match rank from this screen?
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>>575960409
nigger you've had all this time to do it yourself, you can literally pick graves look up and jump, no black void
the tummy view is only on zipline during paused game
now I'm going to queue again and not get her and then I will forget about this post, fuck off
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why is dlg so bricked up
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>>575961242
the watch section hasn't had it's ui fixed since 6NH patch
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>>575960967
you do know it takes your base rank into account right
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>>575961310
silver is just too strong and she keeps bullying dlgers
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>>575960154
>go play wraith because you clearly need practice with her
don't you see exactly how YOU are proving my point? i'm not that good at wraith and i don't want to really play her anymore, but i can play her in ranked because i've met some arbitrary game limitation
but i can't play paige or drifter, characters i'm significantly better at and want to play, because i haven't met that arbitrary restriction
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>>575961268
I dont install censored games. Show the fucking proof or you are a liar and Ill assume graves is censored just like paige and mina blatantly are. Also even if graves isnt censored, why would they randomly arbitrarily censor paige and mina but not her? Doesnt make much sense to me. Post proof.
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>>575960885
>RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE TELL ME IT'S NOT TRUE, SOMEONE TELL ME I'M NOT SHIT
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>the M1 carry spammers are all one tricks that literally don't know how the game is played from any other role

so these are the retards going crazy on mic whenever the front liners do their job
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>>575961486
I was planning on using the soft rank reset to play more Silver without being btfo by people my own rank.
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>>575961606
such are m1ggers
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Anyone here from ascendant? What did your rank look like after recalibration?
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>>575961534
>retard faggot doesn't even play the game
now I'm just NOT going to take a pic, go somewhere else
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>>575961242
Deadlock devs seem hellbent on doing literally everything differently even tho some stuff is pretty much solved and different is strictly worse

They should steal Berkshires color code, scientifically proven to soothe uncs
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>>575961606
>so these are the retards going crazy on mic whenever the front liners do their job
BILLY WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO START FIGHTS?
I dunno man its like the only thing I do
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>>575961817
Why were you giving that retard (You)'s for that long in the first place?
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>>575960819
What were you ranked prior?
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>>575962017
emissary 5 or so
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>>575961893
retard
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>>575961817
Lmfao if the upskirt is real then post it, if graves has no black void then just post it faggot, cmon, sell me on your favorite game. Show me it has one little bit of soul in the form of a nice pantyshot, show me if its so real.
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>>575962080
Yeah I don't believe that lmao
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No one in this thread will post an unmodded pantyshot of graves, no one will because it doesnt exist and she has a black void under her skirt like paige and mina PROVE ME WRONG
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Dont feed the Jewish Censoredslop Assembly Line Fetish Enthusiast
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>please spoonfeed me please
if you commited suicide no one would miss you
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>>575962226
Why not? Emmisary is the most populated rank, smack in the middle
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>>575962427
I don't believe he would place that low if he was actually Emissary.
It's a soft reset, not a full reset.
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>>575962375
>>575962392
So you admit that the pantyshot anon claims exists doesnt exist? Cmon, prove me wrong. Show me an unmodded shot of graves panties if it really exists.
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Annoying faggots are really easy
Just ignore them
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>>575962683
Prove that the mythical unmodded graves pantyshot is real, prove theres no black void. Prove it.
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This guy may be worse than the Persona bikinischizo on /v/. Maybe he's the same guy. Same kind of posting cadence
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>posting a simple screenshot of something they insist is real and exists is too hard for mobatards
I didnt realize that this was asking so much of you all, for me, taking a screenshot of a game I have installed is trivial, but I guess mobatards just take a lot more brain power to do simple things like that. The Mii-chans of the pvp gaming world.
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>>575962912
Post the mythical unmodded grabes pantyshot and ill leave, im waiting mii-chan
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I don't get why I'm worring so much about my placement games. It's just gonna be the difference between Oracle 6 and Oracle 4
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>>575963845
Artificial stress to make the playerbase more angry please understand
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I want the raccoon rank
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With the new system is mmr gain/loss purely wins or does it look at your stats? Is there still per hero mmr?
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graves is 16 you freaks
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>>575963845
placement games are just a mandatory sanity tax they decided to implement because everyone else does it. it's not like there weren't already ranks, this is just tossing e6 players in oracle lobbies to fuck with people.
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>>575964108
I think per hero mmr has been banished to unranked, idk about the other stuff but I hope not
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>New ranks go Emissary to Oracle
Where is Archon, is he safe? Is he alright?
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>>575964264
>the fictional pixel women is underage waaaah
Go back to tumblr, mii-chan
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>>575964447
it is I, the archon
we have all been collectively banned from deadlock
good day
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>>575964335
we're all hots chads here. We dont click minions, we SOAK.
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>>575938649
Its not flashy but I enjoy Paiges reload.
Its cute.
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>>575964537
look there he is! there his is! get him out of here! get him the hell out of here!
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>hi guys im playing melee paige lol cus this is unranked xD
Im never getting these 15 wins, am i
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>>575964867
Don't give him his Jacket. Take his coat.
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>>575964925
BUILD THAT WALL
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>>575964738
I was thinking of putting her instead of paradox, but I just love how Para's gun twists around
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>>575965049
>"WALL INCOMING"
>spawns fifty turrets
this is how we solve the border problem
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Is Heroic Aura the only way to make summons stronger
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>>575916986
>waaa waa I will literally explode if i'm not playing ranked
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is there any good solid video for the basics of the game? saw a few when i started playing but i've been playing freestyle most of the time after i got back so want to get back to fundamentals
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>>575965639
Healing tempo works on mcginnis turrets. Don't know about Graves because you would have to buy healing nova if you wanted to heal your goons.
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test
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>>575965151
are we seriously using ai to make meme edits now? how fucking embarrassing
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>>575966257
that's the panty schizo
do not engage.
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>>575966108
How do you heal turrets, only with healing nova?
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I was Ascendant 3, calibrated to Oracle 1.
Games feel literally the same.
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>>575966372
brother migu has a heal
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>interrupt dynamo ult on startup
>it doesn't go on cd
What the fuck Yoshi
I just heard "I AM THE COSMOS" 3 times in a gamedefining fight and obviously we lost, because we made the mistake of stunning dynamo too soon?
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>>575959430
this is so much funnier when you realize these boomers are not even playing or doing anything because the cashnado shit requires them to actually roll the slots
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>>575966108
zombies have a set lifetime so healing them is useless
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>>575966495
same thing happens with holliday ult if you stun her out of the windup
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>>575966372
With her built in heal
Aura+Tempo+Echo skulls sounds funny but skulls already start falling off when the games go late into Ricochets
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>derank protection
>only eternus is percentile
Lmao there is going to massive rank inflation and actual elo hell walls now. Terrible way to design things. It should just be all percentile.
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>>575966495
And yet doorman ult goes on full CD if he gets interrupted
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>>575961606
>>575961730
>>575961857
I had hex + trophy collector on ivy very early game and was rotating between lanes to help my team get kills and this haze starts freaking the fuck out at me like "WHY IS THIS GUY FOLLOWING ME, WHAT ARE YOU DOING JUST GO TO YOUR LANE"
Like I wouldn't mind but I was getting kills.
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>>575966495
>>575966753
probably something to do with being able to cancel it, haze used to be able to bait people with the windup sound til they fixed it
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>>575966495
ult cd refunds have been around since first public
you have to wait at least 1s after the start of an ult to cancel it, or it gets refunded. it's to prevent CC overlap. targeted ults don't count eg mo and can be canceled the moment it connects. it's sometimes bullshit and inconsistent. i've seen a gt get his bird refunded twice (once from knockdown, once from lightning scroll) only to throw a bird on the third try and kill someone
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>>575964330
dude the people who were previously oracle are not oracle anymore. they're calibrating lower. they literally just pushed EVERYONE down so there's something to grind for eternus players.
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>>575966753
because his t3 gets unstop and it's targeted like mo's
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>>575916981
>that I've been spamming for this patch
>still doesnt have 15 wins
yeah good thing you cant play him in ranked
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>>575916981
Good thing you'll be throwing in unranked as intended, retard
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Should you just queue someone else and swap to Dynamo if you want to play him to dodge Sinclair swaps
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>>575967331
They should just hide the other team. They stated they wanted to give players a chance to make team compositions better, not counterpick.
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>>575966257
>hallucinates ai where there is none
Intetesting behavior from this mii-chan over here
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>First time apollo
>Into silver, kidnap doorman and billy
Okay thank fuck we have non ranked now
we won anyway lmao you could tell the doorman is tryharding.
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>>575967474
>counter picking makes composition worse
???
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>>575964335
>animetard thinks everyone should know what his cartoons are about
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>>575967775
???
Im pretty sure Yoshi intended the hero swaps to address the complaints about getting bad team comps like missing tanks or carries.
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is 15 wins too high? should it be 10 wins 15 games minimum?
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>>575967040
they're calibrating lower because the highest you can exit placements is oracle 6. it'll fix itself in a few weeks when the ladder recovers from the massive shit yoshi just took on it.
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2 matches in so far and it has been one sided stomps against my team
I'm not enjoying myself
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>didnt get the hero I wanted
time to afk farm
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>>575967740
Of course you won they had silver
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>>575968016
no because it makes smurfs, one tricks and seeker GAWDS seethe
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>>575968016
No.
15 is fine.
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>>575968016
It should be 20 to dunk on whiners.
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valve genuinely has no idea what the FUCK they're doing bruh
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>>575967740
doorman literally can't do anything to apollo though?
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>>575967978
it's to satisfy retards who want draft when there is no role queue.
the community doesn't even agree with the hidden classifications.
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>>575968213
he was doing gay kidnap shit which involves rushing vortex web
you don't have to be a genius to figure out why that makes the game unplayable
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>>575968016
>dunks on smurfs
>dunks on one tricks
It's beautiful
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Drain spirit tank geist>bomb geist
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>>575968319
Kidnap is the joke throw build that usually loses
If he was tryharding he'd be doing group ganks and macro with doors while spamming bells
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>>575967887
Kek, that edit hit a soft spot didnt it, mii-chan?
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>>575968319
kidnap doorman was gutted like 3 patches ago, are you brick?
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i have like 500 hours in this game and cant counterspell a lash ult for the life of me ...
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FOR THE DJINN
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>>575968659
AI.
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>>575968382
Can you abuse witchmail with suck giest?
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>>575968728
you dont fucking say?
you some kind of scientist genius?
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>>575968319
kidnap got gutted, it's kind of a throw build now
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>>575968543
You just parry after the third ding
Lashes have no patience, particularly if they have more than one target
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>>575968728
no i believe that's a pig
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>>575968234
>FOUR roles

Absolutely dogshit, 3 and 6 are the only viable frameworks
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>Guys we did a matchmaking update
>Look inside
>They just slapped new icons on ranked
>Making you do placements all over
>Play with people at your rank before the "reset"
What a joke no way they keep goy cattle playing with updates like this right?
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>>575969000
Just wait until they add hats
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>>575967474
It would still reveal with the error message

It should just be a regular draft, at least in e+
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What I dislike about the new Riposte T5 upgrade is that you HAVE to focus the target you Riposted since the lifesteal debuff is only on him, instead of giving Apollo himself a lifesteal buff
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>Literally havent won a single normal match since the matchmaking update
Jesus fucking christ man, I've gotten more leavers and feeders than ever before
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why does it stop at diamond and just go into "le epic reddit occult" rank names
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>>575969000
if you don't like the game you shouldn't play bro.
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>>575968728
it's not AI, it's actually real
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>>575969228
skill issue
ive had only good games since
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I severely underestimated the ranked autism, I thought we’d be bleeding players until the actual content
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>>575969194
Give him like a 30%-40% lifesteal buff that last 6 seconds after riposte and isn't limited to ONE guy
there its useful again
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im... shit....
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>>575968993
why?
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>>575969167
Vindicta wearing a sundress and bonnet would be great thougheverbeit
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>>575969314
@grok is this real
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>>575969386
Coontier
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>>575969386
Same.
I'm shit at laning, and in ranked it's extremely difficult to recover from a bad lane. In casual, people dick around enough that you *can* recover, not the case here.

So it becomes an absolute necessity to play lane well. Went from Archon to the new Arcanist, whatever.
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>>575966746
i just wanna see my mmr? Whats so hard about that? Just do it like in dota. And this derank protection thing is just bs to protect babbies egos
>>575969386
sigh... i was archon VI before this update
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>all these shitters getting BRICKED
MINE EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY OF THE TRAMPLING AT THE ZOO
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>>575969403

Because 4 means two are inherently underweighted, let’s say assassin is one of the singles and your assassin sucks, there is no backup, it’s just gg
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>>575929968
Seconding Venator
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>>575969967
What is that skin a reference to?
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>>575970024
https://deadlock.wiki/Blackmore_Academy
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>>575931494
GT is currently in the "got a minor nerf so people forget that he is hitler" phase of his balance cycle, next comes "a wave of unwarranted buffs".
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>>575968234
>Graves
>Marksman
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>>575970276
She doesn't fit well in any category and her gun used to not be worthless when she was tagged
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>>575970276
That’s #1 marksman to you, buddy
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>>575947662
Stalker is used to proc brs.
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>>575970395
I’m still shilling trinity roles

>frontline
Tanks
Brawlers

>support
Healers
Cc bots

>damage
Everyone else, it’s hard to reduce it to 2 subtypes but they all do dmg. M1 + spirit nuker came to mind but there is a bunch of outliers
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>>575968234
>silver
>marksman
What does she even do?
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>>575970935
>Buying an item to proc another item
Ishygddt
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Holliday got her name from the legendary outlaw
Lash got his name from his grandparents who ran plantations in the south
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>>575971143
shoot and claw people to death with WD
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I really dislike people who can't handle pushback against their endless whining, and think the problem is them being critical when it's actually them being whiny little bitches
never emotionally matured and never figured out how to communicate criticism effectively without being on the verge of tears
(yes I'm talking about vegas)
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>>575969808
having uneven categories works fine though.
works fine in dota.
works fine in lol.
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>>575971292
i thought you meant the people in this thread saying the matchmaking is exactly the same as before and was gonna call you out on your bs
proceed
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>>575971076
M1ggers vs 1234reigners again?
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>>575971219
lash got his name from a gay sex dungeon because he likes getting lashed on his ass
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>>575971292
stop hatewatching streamers you fucking loser.
and stop using this website as their chat room because you're scared of confrontation for posting in their chat.
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>>575971219
Silver got her name because she's always on the team that's second place
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>>575971371
>works fine in lol
Citation needed

Those are 5v5 games with solo lanes
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they should reduce doormans portal range massively but make it placeable on any surface so I can press 1 as lash and build infinite damage then have doorman send me flying across the map
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>>575971219
>Holliday got her name from the legendary outlaw
It took me a while to find that out. I was confused by her gun's name for a while. Is Doc Holliday really that famous?
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>>575971537
>didn't address the point
but if your mid laner sucks there's no backup.
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>heh sorry kid matchmaking decided to give you the 0-10 holiday player, guess that means you lose
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>>575971597
yeah, he was a famous wild west lawman in contrast to the outlaw billy the kid

fuckin' zoomer
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>>575968382
this has been known for well over a year
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>>575971531
kek
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>>575971681
first team game?
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>>575971681
Go play chess or fighting games if you're gonna whine everytime you get a bad teammate.
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>>575971671
Yes and I’m not familiar with the stats but your winrate probably isn’t great in games where your mid gets owned


The actual point was tho that the asymmetry role is counterbalanced by the lane asymmetry, in deadlock it’s all duos. Maybe it does add some meta variance where different roles take turns in the underweight slot it just intuitively makes more sense to copy the other 6v6 games rather than dota imo
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Which hero do I get RANKED CERTIFIED™ on next?
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>>575972896
mina and vyper for a DPS, then you're decently covered
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>>575972896
Sinclair is freelo in a counterpick, a must have
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>>575972761
Getting a bad teammate once in awhile would be fine but when it's literally every single game it's just bad matchmaking, on a 9 game loss streak and havent won a single match since the update, there's just nothing I can do about it. I unironically think I would be better off in a 1v5 because at least the enemy team wouldn't be getting fed constantly.
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why the fuck do i go from oracle to fucking silver on calibration. Now ive gotta climb half the ranks AGAIN!
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>>575969194
>>575969379
yeah they're gonna need to significantly nerf the lifesteal if it's a general thing
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>>575973234
>cheats
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>>575973481
What cheats
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>>575973234
>those fucking ugly icons
>all those mods
bro youäre literally dogshit at the game and no better than anyone else on your team
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the fuck it will take forever to stop being rat
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>>575974040

BÖG
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>>575973481
>>575974040
Weird thing to get upset over but ok
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>>575970115
That's supposed to be a school uniform? she looks like a school shooter
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>>575973073
Freelo for the enemy team, mayhaps
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>>575973546
>>575974208
All mods are cheats.
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>>575974319
i'm not american like you so i don't care
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>>575974405
Sorry ESL-kun, doesn't fit the definition
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what more could I have done...
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>>575974208
Stop giving the schizo attention.
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>>575974529
>cheater cope
Classic.
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>>575974529
NTA but it literally does fit exactly what you highlighted, nice projection calling them ESL.
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every team im in always has some useless retard
this is because i am the useles retard
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I can't wait for Valve to implement sv_pure 3
FUCK cheaters, they should all get banned
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>>575974613
Unfortunately the enemy team's best player was piloting a retard proof character, so not much beyond playing the designated 1v11 characters.
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>>575974662
>Fails to explain how
Cute cope
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>>575974613
how about some fucking purple items maybe
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>>575947341
>it happens to me nearly every game I play as her
lol
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I have played four ranked games so far and lost them all.
How is this happening? I'm good at the game so it's not my fault.
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>>575974887
the only purple items I buy are cooldown reduction and duration extender.
Building spirit Vindicta is a meme
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>>575971208
but the tankbuster spiritburn mystic shot combo did exactly that and it was nerfed out of the game?
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>>575974613
their team has FIVE retard proof characters that basically scale infinitely.
Your team has FOUR retards. Like how Warden had 0 OBJ Damage is kind of crazy, same with a 1/6 Shiv
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who the FUCK is mii-chan and why do we have a /gsg/ tier schizo?
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>>575974959
>Building spirit Vindicta is a meme
Not really, but it is true that carry Vin seldom needs spirit items in late game.
>duration extender
Why would you buy duration if you're going gun carry?
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>>575973234
>>575974613
Really funny how the big matchmaking update that was supposed to save the game seems to have accomplished literally nothing
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>>575975132
>schizo namedrops himself on post cooldown to force relevance
first general?
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troonlock
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>>575975154
Because even if you dont max her flight, with max duration and max cooldown you can stay up in the air forever as your cooldown ends with 3 seconds left so double jump and press flight again
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>NO NO NO I'M NOT BUYING ANY PURPLE ITEMS THAT WOULD MAKE MY GUN STRONGER!!!
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>>575975132
He must maintain his izzat
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>>575974959
>cdr and duration
>not rr
she's the only hero in the game with charges on her ult, why the fuck are you not building rr on her? are you high?
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>>575975378
i told you already anon...

>>575975318
and I've never had a use for extra charges on her ulti. 2 uses is usually enough to build stacks forever.
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Still havent seen any proof that the mythical unmodded graves pantyshot exists
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>>575974401
NA abusing him right now, eu asleep at the wheel, the ult steal is op if you have a target


>>575975071
That combo actually lowered winrate over regular builds it was just removed for being ultra cancer
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>>575975258
i've been here for years. he replied to me earlier and i control-f to see how many times that phrase popped up
i'm not him
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So it's confirmed that you need roughly 700 games at a 55% win rate to climb to highest ranks. As soon as you get below 50% winrate, it explodes to over 1100 games and climbs rapidly for each extra % below 50.

Is this... Good? The only real reason for a -normal- person to play ranked is if they want the solo/duo restriction
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>>575975318
>spoiler
fair enough

>>575975378
>rr
You can easily get away with just extra charge, with recharging rush if you really need snipes, sniping is also kinda useless past a certain point if you already have a lot of stacks.
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>>575975807
bro you needed 65+ games all won in a row to get to Eternus.
This is literally no different lmao
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>>575975640
>Cilver
???
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>>575974959
It's pretty dumb how Talon, Sinclair and even fucking Paradox are allowed to nuke your entire health bar from miles away but not the character labelled as "one shot kill sniper"
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>>575976139
it's an execute bro
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>>575976139
as a vindicta main do NOT get me going on how she gets a fucking Root, but not a stun.
the ONE character in the entire game who could benefit from a stun, just doesnt fucking get one.
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>>575976273
>>575976273
>>575976273
>>575976273
>>575976273
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>>575976286
It's a fake execute.
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>>575975640
>That combo actually lowered winrate over regular builds it was just removed for being ultra cancer
source?
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>>575976139
And then you still have retards on here comparing her to TF2 sniper.
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>>575969967
heh
She's gonna make a mourning widow very happy and very rich soon.
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>>575941340
>the USSR
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>>575937921
>slavs, chinks, and SEAmonkeys
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