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>News
Version 3.1 Special Program
https://youtu.be/sFlYlAhCRUM
Agent Record | Sigrid
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/45531765
Agent Record | Remielle
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/45530725
Official Void Hunter Agent Remielle Trailer
https://youtu.be/LU6UsOPtq58

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character Demo
https://youtu.be/U-is5u-WYVg
https://youtu.be/IYD25XaDBj8 (EN)
https://youtu.be/RufwMz9HNAg (JP)
https://youtu.be/ZOHQFFSFtHc (EN)
https://youtu.be/VlHWf2i3nvU (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 3.1
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/165414
Marcel Anniversary Gift 07/29 - 09/14
Phaethon's Grand Reveal of the Year 07/29 - 09/14
Potential Hypothesis: Hunting Game 07/29 - 09/14
Gift From the Clouds 07/29 - 09/08
Summer Waves Roll in 07/29 - 09/07
Snap! Focus Showdown! 08/07 - 08/24
Return to Ridu: Feathers of Reunion 07/17 - 09/09
Extensive Patrol: Triple Bounty 08/12 - 08/17
The Great En-Nah Giveaway 08/19 - 09/08
Crispy Meal Deployment Plan 08/19 - 09/07
Dangerous Fugitive's Leisurely Vacation 08/24 - 09/07
Ding-Dong! Delivery Training in Progress 08/28 - 09/14
Combat Training: Triple Bounty 09/02 - 09/07

>Redeemable Codes
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZ31REMIELLE
ZZZ2YEAR
ZZZMEIJI
REMIELLE0729 (Asia only)

>Resources and Useful Links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Guilds

>/zzz/ OP Pastebin (use this if making new thread)
https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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Did I fuck up getting Lucia??
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Roxy is my wife. Ive claimed her first.
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please look at this image of my wife
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Roxy has a puffy pussy
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Yuri has dominated the field, that would be all
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Predict Sunbringers class
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>>576012559
initiating tail touching protocol
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>>576012635
Yeah. There's a reason they literally allow you to get her for free.
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>>576012635
Probably not
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WHERE ARE THE LEAKS FOR A RANKS?
SURELY THE DEVS WOULDN'T BE DUMB ENOUGH TO HAVE A NEW CLASS AND ELEMENT WITH NO A RANK OPTIONS?
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Who got rugpulled?
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seedbros...i don't feel so good...
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rupture bros............ I don't feel so good................
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>>576012635
Bro we TOLD you to wait to redeem your shit. Hoyo is never going give you recommended picks for agents unless they are specifically trying to brick you
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Hi! New player here! About to install superior game (?) according to /v/. What am I in for?
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>KOLEDA - CLARET - ROXY
BEHOLD, YOUR NEW DEFENCE STUN META
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My boner for Claret is gone, my boner for Sigrid is diminishing...
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>>576012290
>>576011324
Wait, why would Shunguang want Sigrid for?
That doesn't make any sense.
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whats next Phoenix is a flying class? Storyteller is a fucking wizard??
fucking piece of shit
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Rupture is FUCKING DEAD
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Lucia is worth having on your account even if you never use her on a team.
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I thought Wind was for anomaly only???????
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Everyone who pulled Caesar should get a refund.
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>>576012736
jiggling boobs and ass.
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>>576012748
Nigga...He is saying that ROXY is paired up with them, not that you use all 3 together
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>>576012673
You can keep shitposting as long as you post new yuri art, I save them all. Just don't overdo it
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>>576012736
gameplay and jiggle
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>>576012657
The most beautiful wife
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>>576012662
>armourer makes armour
>armour protects people
>armourers can also make weapons
>weapons help people do damage
>not a defender
>not a support
>an entirely new class
just.. why?
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If Roxy requiring 2 stunners counts herself then Hugo unironically might be the best agent to pick
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>>576012810
This is my current cope
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>>576012736
Wives
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>>576012816
this
Caesar is literally never getting buffed now
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>>576012662
>Wind Stun
Did they do that purely to just bait people or were they really wanting to keep Rina meta-relevant?
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Reposting
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>Skipmielle
>Skipgrid
>Skipret
>Roskip
>Skipnix
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Should I exchange for Burnice's W-engine now or should I wait until Trigger's W-engine is in the store? My Burnice has a fully capped lips W-engine.
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Roxy is an S rank agent.
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>>576012936
wtf how did you come up with those???
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>>576012812
Wind has Tempest Coefficient which increases the direct damage of attacks. Velina does not make use of this mechanic so someone else was bound to eventually
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I am literally in love with Remielle
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>>576012662
i heard roxy is a gonner, i need some animations stat.
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>>576012829
>>576012865
>>576012880
Is weapon mandatory for this game like Honkai Powercreep Rail?
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>>576012925
Please tell me that Roxy having a gooner model means that her outfit looks is sexy like Etna's from the waist down and not that she has fat thighs, I just want one thin chick and was legitimately optimistic for her
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>>576012873
It's a self buff
Claret turns invincible while Armored and gains immense damage boosts
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>>576012635
No? Because who else? Def scaling is brand new shit
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I'm going to go shower
I better see some animations by the time I get out
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>>576012965
Did anyone actually believe they'd add a new A Rank?
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>>576012736
rugpulls
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>>576012965
Well that sucks, guess I'm only getting Claret.
I hope the difference between her and Koleda isn't that big.
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>Norma dies 2 patches after release
>Sunna stays alive
Shieet, supports never die
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They're making new classes just so you can't use cope balls
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CAESAR ADDED TO THE STABLE CHANNEL
>CAESAR ADDED TO THE STABLE CHANNEL
CAESAR ADDED TO THE STABLE CHANNEL
>CAESAR ADDED TO THE STABLE CHANNEL
CAESAR ADDED TO THE STABLE CHANNEL
>CAESAR ADDED TO THE STABLE CHANNEL
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why is everyone yelling about how people who picked lucia bricked themselves
who from the selector even works with Claret or Roxy?
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>>576012945
by the time trigger's wengine is in store she could be completely irrelevant, I mean she's not that relevant nowadays either unless-.. Anyway, Burnice is at the peak before another fire anomaly comes out so you could ride the wave further if you want
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>>576012694
During the HSR collab talks the ZZZ devs got some pointers from the HSR devs and there will no longer be any new A ranks ever
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>>576013015
Bro, thin chicks will never be made after Miyabi.
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>>576012925
kek this guy won't be leaking anymore for a while btw
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>>576013073
We really should have seen the writing on the wall when this happened.
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>>576013015
I'm sorry anon.....
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>Armorer
"Claret needs to stack Crit Rate; any excess Crit Rate triggers a secondary critical hit check. She does not benefit from Crit Damage, as the critical hit damage is fixed."
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>>576013007
Depends. Some agents came use a free option with only a minor loss of like 10-15%. Other agents get absolutely fucked without their ball.
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>>576012783
>everyone who picked Lucia got the best option for any random Rupture EG content
>Janepags, Hugofags, Triggerniggers and Tranbys completely bricked their accounts
KEEEEEEEEEK
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>Claret does double crit
Oh...Thats interesting
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>>576012657
you married a fucking piece of masonry?
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>>576013015
>trusting leakers and setting yourself up for disappointment
Ngmi..
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>>576012965
only wormers think she's an A rank lol
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>>576013090
I wouldn't be surprised if Rupture was season 2's "flavor" and armourer is season 3's
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surely one of the many limited characters that need it is also getting buffed and not just Koleda right?
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>>576013105
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>>576013116
what happened?
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>>576013068
Bullshit Norma is still good with Pyr--
>Roxy gives wind for his currently never used wind ult
FUCK
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This team works right?
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>>576013120
>another loli stunner
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>>576011483
>Roxy is the whole reason for pyrois left ult
And Norma is the whole reason for Pyrois superscaling of chain-attacks which is arguably the most important longrun meta condition for him, it allows to reliably get a second ulti per rotation. Anyway I'm getting BOTH
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Roxy has nearly no combat animations don't get excited. Claret is missing her empowered form's animations
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>>576013304
no. Jane and Aria fight for the same job.
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>>576013295
pyrois fucking loves cunny doesn't he
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>>576013351
tl;dr
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>>576013094
I will invest in agents I like, don't want to break records in end game, just wanna survive it.
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Spit on it sunna
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>>576013351
does she sound like onfield or off-field?
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>>576013304
fuck no nigga you take Aria OR Jane not both and you better have m2 jane to match m0 aria
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>>576013073
>>576013132
Caesar confirmed dead.
>Yanagi too
Disorder confirmed dead.
>Zhu Yuan too
Pyrois killed her.
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>>576013304
works for bricked account because =
you didnt get lucia or lucia m1
piper perform the same
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>>576013294
their circle jerk got too much attention with this beta, one of the mods told him to stop leaking for a while
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>>576013109
Dude I've deadass been learning Blender because there aren't any games in general that make designs for me anymore, even the lolis in most games these days have more ass than Brazilian plastic surgery regulars
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>>576013228
Wife
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>>576013351
I'm too stupid to understand this bullshit. Explain.
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>>576013351
>Gash value
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>>576013374
It's hilarious that every single BIS team mate for him is uoh.
>Foof
>Norma
>Sunna
>now Roxy
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>>576013384
that's fine, and I'm with you, just trying to help by offering thoughts for your consideration
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>>576013351
>Crit rate DEF scaler
my bricked discs are useful!
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>>576013331
Use Jufufu
Use Dialyn
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>>576013398
I dont have m2 Jane.
My other anomaly units are big butt maid, grace, and piper.
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>Normapedokeks already writing their copes
>Koleda buffs are literally DESIGNED for Claret and other DEF scalers + Roxy
>with every other team you’d use Dialyn
GEEEEEEEEEG
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So which of the new upcoming characters will work best with norma?
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>>576013351
I only care about Roxy
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>>576012810
Lucia is not worth having on your account, even if you would play her
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>>576012662
Claret turbomogged by Roxy.
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>s2 killed miyabi with non freezeable boss
>s3 killed disorder
bwo...
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>>576013528
Piper is better than Jane and Aria is better than everybody
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I just picked Jane :(
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norma status?
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>>576013160
>making crit dmg a dead stat
for what purpose
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>crit damage is useless on Claret
Good bye every single def% double crit disk I have saved
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>>576013351
>When the enemy enters [Gash]
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>>576013351
>This bitch actually scales off defense
Too bad her ball gives ATK so she's automatically at a disadvantage compared to attackers. Good job Hoyo
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i love my bnuut wife
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>>576013073
>>576013407
>add more agents to the standard banner pool, which you cannot configure
>now getting shop tickets becomes even harder due to the pool being bigger
Absolutely diabolical
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>>576013534
sigrid
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Can Mibibi stop this pink demon?
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Anons please tell me if this plays out the same with Wise, that'd be a bit uncharacteristic of him
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>>576013528
Here is the thing, we didn't joke when we said your Jane is a brick.

There is no refunds.
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Defender bros?
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>>576013598
Dead
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She will probably be armorer too...fuck. At least Koleda will work with her and match elements
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>>576013616
I'm almost certain balls are weighted higher as well in standard
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I think I might quit, bros.
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>>576013616
>>now getting shop tickets becomes even harder due to the pool being bigger
no it hasn't, because you have the 6 slot pick now
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Is the Velina + Remielle team safe?
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>>576013331
eh i got fufu and dialyn for pyrois
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>>576013072
It's also a way to make people buy the BP since it's three patches in a row of characters you can't prefarm mats for.
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>>576013646
It's optional for a reason
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>>576013351
I'm not reading that shit, someone dumb it down.
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>>576013686
why? just go full f2p and become a little less invested. is what I'm doing after this new DA mode.
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>>576013530
I mean I knew she was bait, because obviously, but I didn't think it'd be this soon kek
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>>576013660
Why is jane a brick? Just low damage compared to piper?
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DO BIG DAMAGE TO BUILD GASH
WHEN GASH IS BUILT IT CAUSES ENEMY TO TAKE BIG DAMAGE
WHEN ENEMY TAKES DAMAGE FROM GASH STACKS FROM ALLIES IT BECOMES MAIM
MAIM AND GASH BUILD SHARPNESS FOR CLARET

WHEN CLARET IS SHARP ENOUGH SHE WILL DO AN EXTREME SUPER ATTACK WHEN YOU HOLD BASIC ATTACK
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Uoh
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Claret
https://streamable.com/dyue7x
https://streamable.com/dyue7x
https://streamable.com/dyue7x
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>>576013735
do they look safe in your eyes
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>>576013228
Shifu paizuri
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I will use Roxy with Yuzuha as my wind anomaly applier + gigafast stunner.
I regret rolling Brickielle Dan.
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>Armorer class can counter Control Skills
LOOOOOOOLL
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>>576013530
I think Roxy being a stunner is a placeholder. Her kit has no sources of impact, daze, and she scales of defense as her core gives her a ton of it. Seriously, read her kit, it's barebones but it's nothing like any other stunner

https://zzz.gachabase.net/agents/1621/1621/beta?lang=en
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>>576013828
Kys
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>>576013454
She wants defense and crit rate and pen. Crit damage is worthless.
Her passive stacks up a debuff and then consumes it when teammates or her use ex special. So Claret works off field as a subdps.
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>>576013530
>fire stunner loli #1 will be better than fire stunner loli #3
oh no bros its over
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>>576013375
>>576013397
>>576013454
She's an on field DPS that wants two stunners. She wants to get CR and DEF as much as possible. If she has over 100% CR, she gets a special super crit. If this happens, it gives her a resource. The resource can be used to go into a frenzy mode where she has enhanced attacks and damage (think Chungus Blanco).
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>>576013828
you have AIDS
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>>576013786
jane = piper
her buff is basicly nothing
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>>576013786
>Just low damage compared to piper?
Pretty much.

Just play her in deadly assault and see for yourself.
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>>576013735
I just topped up for M2R1 Remi and she's already dead... it's so over
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>>576013828
Is this why we now have HSR refugees?
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>>576013828
she's actually hot
>she's actually hot
she's actually hot
>she's actually hot
she's actually hot
>she's actually hot
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>>576013823
Hoping that she gives res pen and def shred
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>>576013681
Consider the following: Sunbringer will not be armorer because she’ll have her own disc set
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>>576013846
They look like my wives
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>>576013823
How is that thing S rank bro
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BEHOLD
NEW META
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>>576013530
Fuck. Why did you fags bait me into rolling Norma and her wengine???
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>>576013828
umm kino alert?????
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>>576013883
>>576013351

this is fucking retarded
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>>576013828
kek
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>Roxy uses a coffin
It ain't a coffin, but it as a weapon reminds me of a cross as a weapon.
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>>576013828
FVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK
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What is M6 Piper's BiS engine? R5 of her sig or something else?
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>>576013963
>0 team effect
greedy hungry bitch
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Which ZZZs would you let your daughter dress like?
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>>576013963
>sharp dmg
yay more dmg type...
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>introduce new class
>next patch gonna abandon that class
its rupture 2nd
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im not the other new anon, but whos zzz that i was supposed to get from free selector if this character and that character is bad and bricked?
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>>576014023
She is a dps anon, what the fuck did you expect.
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>>576014028
Burnice
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So how exactly is Claret meant to go above 100 when her ball only gives 25? Even if you do go above 100, you're barely gonna be able to reliably proc her special crit unless you get like 180 or something
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>>576013963
>it actually increases base defense
s-surely there's gonna be a craftable A rank armorer engine that also does this right? haha...
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How can you release a new defensa class before fixing defense
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>>576013963
>new class
>no cope options
>the shit cope ball will probably be something nonsensical like ATK% or CD kind of like the useless puzzle ball for rupture
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>>576013963
>base def, not base attack
What the fuck
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Welp, time to start building
>>576013942
she can do both. A stronger armorer set that only she can use, just like Miyaby is anomaly but has her own set that only she can use
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>>576014002
Alice's sig if you have it. Fusion Compiler or Weeping Gemini otherwise.
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guys nuKoleda seems pretty good, no?
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>>576014110
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>Red
>Tsundere
>Blacksmith
>Electric Element, not Fire
???
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>going full jew with a new good cope ball only available in BP
>rugpull the entire spending event
>somehow believe they will give you 3 sunbringers in 1 pull
kek
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Have the devs gone full retard?
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>>576014110
BEHOLD
A-RANKS
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>armorer
>has no armor
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>>576013963
>sharp dmg
So like dmg...but it doesn't include normal dmg%
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>>576013963
Roxy thirsting over my cock amirite fellas
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>>576013963
>New class gets base def
>Rupture has to settle with base atk
Holy fuck they really are rugpulling rupture
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>>576014193
they did that a year ago
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>>576014198
Good lord those suck ass compared to her sig.
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my balls itch
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Are we winning?
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>>576014198
The left one is so much better you can tell it's only obtainable in paid BP and the right one is free.
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Who is the A rank of season 3?
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>>576014174
>>576014198
huh. i assume Bloodmarrow Coffer is the BP weapon but the cat engine seems copable.
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>>576014075
Oh yeah? BEHOLD the Joyau Dore! I guess one really is an angel
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>>576014198
the left one seems decent, ig that will be from the bp?
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>>576014308
Caesar
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>>576012559
/zzz/ is this game player friendly or E2S1 or suffer like /hsrg/?
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Powercreep is bad
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>>576013897
I dont have the capability to fight deadly assault. I don't even have level 60 characters yet lol
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>>576014308
Severian. A rank Armorer
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>>576012925
>ysg again
lmao we dont want her anymore
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New DA Buff
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>>576014308
>asking for a rank after wormano almost killed the game
retard
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>>576013868
Looks pretty Normal like to me
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>>576014308
Storyteller
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>>576014360
it's more like e0s1 or suffer
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can they re-class ben to this new one since he used def and well idk buffed crate.....please...
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Rupture bros our assholes are ruptured how did everything go so wrong...
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>>576014302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oiVtMzNjF8
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>>576014408
Gay
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I wanted to M2 Remie...
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>>576014198
Left looks better so it's gotta be BP.
Still kinda dogshit compared to the S-rank one. Maybe at W5 it's a playable cope, but who is waiting 7 months for that?
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>>576014308
I'm gonna guess if we get an A-Rank it's probably Crowe as some kind of Wind agent.
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So what, they're now done with Rupture?
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Show me Roxy so I can go to bed
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>>576014408
I should be used to agent specific buff by now but god damn
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I'm fucking tired of these new damage types every 5 minuter
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>One more body type 1 stunner
It's getting a little dumb at this point, no? What the fuck are they doing?
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>>576014408
OH BOY A BUFF AND BOSS THAT ARE LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT CLARET

LEMME GUESS THE HARD MODE DA HAS A SIMILAR BOSS TOO
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>>576014427
>Armorer scales with defense, does double crit, but have a crit damage cap
>Rupture scales with HP and ignores defense
How do they overlap?
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>>576014408
>roll for claret or you don't get this buff
kek
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>>576014417
It just doesn't read like a stunner. She doesn't do anything that benefits the team except damage because she has no ways to buff her daze aside from disc sets. As she is right now, she is by far the worst stunner in the game
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>>576014408
>roll claret or get fucked
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
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>>576014427
I want to be Sunna and get my asshole ruptured
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>>576014308
A ranks are retired. Did you miss the part where we can now select our A-rank coinflip?
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>>576014408
Don't care, still skipping Claret and rating her the lowest possible rating during the next survey.
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>>576014525
Get off the hard mode hamster wheel while you can. It's designed to make you roll for the most recent shiny units and mindscapes
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>Counter Assist: Not an Inch
>When you or the on-field Character is about to be hit by a Control Skill attack, press Icon_Switch to activate:
>Engage in a struggle with the monster. Upon success, neutralize the enemy's Control Skill;
>Character is invulnerable while using this skill.
So let me get this straight, they get these filled up surveys telling them that boss control skills are shit and are just time wasters so they give out a solution tied to a subtype of a dead class. Why couldn't they just give that to all defenders? That would literally increase their usefulness. What is going in ZZZ headquarters? I hope they include this mechanic to all defender agents cause this is actually a great unique skill.
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post the animations already im tired of edging
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>Claret wants two stunners
>she's electric
>Trigger can pair with her as a result
HOLD THE FUCK UP IS TRIGGER WCTUALLY THE META PICK FROM THE SELECTOR?
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>>576014408
They are really not convincing me to roll for Claret by pulling shit like this
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>>576012925
another support for my wife
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>>576014408
You retard realize that every electric agent can use the res ignore right
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>>576014647
Nope because trigger is trash without her engine's def shred, and Claret wants pen
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>>576014632
https://streamable.com/dyue7x
https://streamable.com/dyue7x
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>>576014427
A ruptureGOD would ANNIHILATE an armorercuck in a PVP 1v1
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>>576014617
Maybe it would do that if you actually got to keep and collect the rewards but you just don't lol??
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Official ZZZ clothing merch. T-shirt looks pretty clean ngl.

https://zozo.jp/event/zenless-zone-zero/?utm_source=zozotown_x&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=202608011100_t3_rq2
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>>576014252
>Roxy
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I will flop.........
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>Trolls claimed Shunguang would never ever ever receive anymore supports
>Retards actually fell for it and skipped the strongest agent in the game with additional upcoming supports
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What the hell does vampirism gotta do with being an engineer?

Or is this suppose to be a way to suggest that Porcelloy is like True silver and they’re monster hunters. Like they’re followed of ZZZ’s Hellsing equivalent.
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>>576014719
you already posted that bwo
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>>576014719
HOLY FVURKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>576014647
Heh
>>576014706
>Trigger is trash without her engine's def shred
Oh boy if only that was free right now
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>>576014618
This totally sounds like what a DEFENDER should do what the fuck? ZZZ devs are so fucking infuriating
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>>576014773
shigurido...
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not even gonna give us an A rank armorer?
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Got my Koleda ready to go, I really liked playing her.
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>>576014732
Wife
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>>576014408
seed got so many hate because of this target specific buff. now its claret
fuck defiller
kek
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>>576014860
they havent even put out an S rank wind character yet. they might just not
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>>576014198
This was actually the flaw that killed Ben.
His engine lacked Base-defense so DEF was a shitty scaling for him.
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>>576014860
Fuck you no A Ranks for you. Pay up ya bum.
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>[3.2 Beta]
Claret Skin
Roxy Skin
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>>576014870
Mine is M0. I'm fucked
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>>576014790
Porcelloy is made of blood
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>>576014576
Sure but there has to be a f2p option so people can still use the new classes/element types.

I certainly won’t be held hostage into rolling for Velina or Remielle
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>>576014870
Is this why they didn't include her in the Lolis of Delusion dance thingy?
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>>576014870
your ben??
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New calendar page dropped
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>>576014956
Brother it is over for me
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>>576014408
>People already are complaining a lot about DA buff being too specialized and bad
>Let's make it worst
What the fuck are they doing?
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>>576014956
please dont be summer skins please be something actually interesting
(note: you can be sexy without being summer themed)
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>>576014991
>Sure but there has to be a f2p option so people can still use the new classes/element types.
tell that to HSR players, we're just following their footsteps
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>>576014956
>Make Claret's outfit jumbled dogshit
>Release the good outfit as a paid skin
I can already see it
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>>576014956
Anon, every character's default skin is considered a skin as well.
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>>576014956
Nice, 3 patches in a row with skins, hopefully that's a new standart
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>>576014870
>>576014964
>mfw M3W2 Koleda
I am ready to bonk some bitches.
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>>576015018
MADE FOR BROTHER COCK
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>>576014956
aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeee
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>>576015042
They unironically think people will just pull whatever slop they put out if they make endgame unfun enough for every agent except the one they're trying to shill
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>>576013105
Don't know what you're talking about, but from what I've seen pretty much EVERY single improvement or addition, good or bad in hoyoturd games since 2024 only happened in either honkai star rail or honkai impact. Genshin and yenless were just copying those with a delay, often with a shittier result, sometimes it didn't even made sense for another genre but they still did.
>"roguelike" endgame
>"autochess" game modes
>3 teams hardmode engame
>bosses / elites separate endgames
>removal of dailies for the activity points mechanic
>stamina overcap with lower rates
>gear crafting
>replacement of 4 stars with free 5 stars / old unit buffs / playable MC
List can go on for very long, I can barely name a single reverse example aside the initial game design made for familiarity or laziness. Either every other team is utterly creatively bankrupt or it's intentional for only one team to have a freedom to design and experiment to avoid accidental disaster in CCP sponsored culture export game. Should be obvious by now without any "leaks"
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i think i like remimi now bwos
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>>576015105
>3
The only patch that hasn’t had one in the last year is 2.2
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>>576014979
Claret’s mad that pyrosis sucked off all the porcelloy instead of her. The Fat ass.
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>Roxy is the little girl with a giant hammer character

Finally, I was honestly annoyed with how incomplete Claret’s character design is due to having nothing that shows her being a blacksmith, but at least her co-worker having one means that she’ll also get one
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>>576014782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnGVoiJj3ng
Well, it's always a game of evolution isn't it?
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>two(2) new elements
>1 armorer

This just reeks more desperation

HOWEVER I still hope this means Claret can stun
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>>576015042
back in my days, having team of m0w1 meant you can kill the boss. Nowadays you should be happy to get triple stars. Soon you will be happy to just get six to collect the poly rewards
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>Roxy wants two Stunners in hee team
KEKAROOOOOO HUGO IS THE BEST CHOICE HUGO UPSCALE INCOMING
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remielle
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>>576014303
>>576014476
The right is in-combat DEF bonus, so it will x1,12 your total DEF in combat at the end of the formula.
It should be stronger than a mere 20% DMG which is actually insanely weak = 7 substats.
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>>576015210
Eh, HSR makes a shit ton of money and this mess happens a lot there as well
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We are skipping next patch right
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>wormgo
>best anything
retarded homo
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>>576014956
Roxy is a maid outfit btw
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>>576015129
This is what made the HSR devs have to get on stream and bow down and say sorry to everyone for, but even worst since they're not just doing HP increase, but this shit too.
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claret phase 1
this will be all her shiyu rooms
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>>576015151
Can someone translate this ESL babble into English for me?
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I'm skipping anyways 3.2 is the universal save patch
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>>576015272
easiest skip patch of my entire life
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>>576015272
I don’t give and haven’t given 2 shit about any 3.0 design. I’m just here for the Dialyn rerun
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>>576015305
>all 3 rooms want armorer
Just fuck my shit up.
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>>576015305
>sharp damage
>sharp damage
>sharp damage
epic
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>hoyoturd
Don't disrespect my favourite gaming company of all time like that or else you will regret it
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Wait I just saw Roxy is stun

Holy fucking FUCK FUCK THIS GAME FUCK

LITREALLY EVERY STUNNER IS A DOGSHIT PEDOSHIT....HOLY FUCK IM ACTUALLY MAD.

WHERE ARE THE HAG STUNNERS (besides trigger) WHAT THE FUCK

I will say that Koleda is cool and an exception and I hope her potential unlock is good
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>>576015305
>Sanby has no issues with any of these room
Yawn
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>>576015272
>skip
No way.

I'm rolling Roxy for my Shunguang.
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>>576015272
for me it's m6 roxy
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Always bet on big asses
>>576015318
Roxy will make billions if she is a tru BiS for Ye
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Did you guys play this comp in Simulated Annihilation? Double stunner + Totalize.

It out DPS'd every comp on leaderboards. I think that's what Roxy's dual stunner niche is.
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>>576015272
Only Claret. I'm feeling good about Roxy
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so im guessin sunbringer is an armorer
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>>576015394
Bro I get stunned seeing Remi's body on my screen let me enjoy the loli sex too
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>>576015163
Yeah true, somehow I forgot about that
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>>576015151
>Don't know what you're talking about

I'm referring to the fact that HSR stopped releasing 4 star characters two years ago
I guess if you count "only releasing 5 stars/s ranks" as an innovation then yeah HSR is a leader in innovative monetization strategies
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>>576015305
>Claret needs shill buffs this strong to compete with existing electric attackers
Oh yeah, she's either gonna be completely broken or completely dogshit. No Inbetween.
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>>576014782
which is kinda crazy as busted as fuck is remi, her number still pale compared to shunko and remi want fully invested team with engine, while shunko you slap shit on zhao and sunna with cope disc and engine
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>>576015496
this game has ENOUGH PEDOSHIT, ITS WHATEVER

IM ASKING WHY ALL THE STUNNERS (again, besides trigger) ARE PEDOSHIT FUCK
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>>576015272
skipping until s rank nicole
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>no drip
>hack leakers not taking a fucking screenshot of Roxy's full model
One job
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Full Names
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>Remielle is literal useless without Velina(the only other setup that really works is JaneM2+Alice)
>Retards still roll for her anyway without Velina.
I wonder how long it will take them to complain if they aren't already.
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When pyrois catches little sunbringer his sword also flashes over to aura farm for him.
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In the last two hours:
>Goatfuckers baited everyone into a bad pick
>the Jane cult did its usual thing
>devs are going into shill overdrive
>Norma got capped in the ass in a mere two patches
>turns out Trigger is the best pick from the selector
Did I miss anything?
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little girls STUNNED your puny hag brain
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>>576015272
>skipping vampire sex
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>Wormpaggers seething at lolis this early
The pagpag is boiling
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>Make every loli a stunner
>Lolifags sick of this and stop roll ling
>Hagfags can't get a hag stunner and start to get mad
Explain this to me? Why would they do this besides going full retard?
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They adjusted Claret’s model
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>>576015594
>Ifrita
>not Fire element
???
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Is the smart play to skip Claret and get the next Armorer instead? Which will likely be Sunbringer?
Worst case scenario would probably be that Severian is the other Armorer option if you skip Claret.
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>>576015594
>Roxy namemogging as well
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>>576015608
>Norma got capped in the ass in a mere two patches
With how Roxy's current kit is, she isn't even powercreeping pre buff Koleda
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>>576015631
Literally no one outside of these threads cares about this shit
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>>576015547
But like even our most petite girls have definitive secondary characteristics like hip and breast development that signal fertility.
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Time to toss out every king of the summit set.
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how come there never any anons in betas and leaking shit for us?
ever?
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>>576015621
Dont fuck group me with the Shunaguspag aka AodD hater aka retard that replies to ximself three times

I just want MORE FUCKING VARIETIES IN STUNNERS, FUCKING FUCK

FUKC
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>skipped Yanagi
>skipped SAnby
>skipped Seed
>skipped Cissia
>Koleda was my first S Rank but I benched her
>have been struggling with Harumasa this whole fucking time

It's time. I'm getting Claret, my first limited Electric DPS and Harumasa can finally have the vacation time he wants.
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My only sources of electric damage are Yanagi and Seed...
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So I know full well I fucking suck, but this new deadly assault challenge is just a kick in the balls, day 1 player, haven't missed a day, and I can't even break 6k...

Can do that damn X-parry maybe 1 in 20, and now I gotta do it 5 times in a single match just to get to the part where he's chuckin buildings at me while I only have 20 seconds left.
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>>576015129
that just makes people quit
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>>576015594
I really hope we get Claret first. I don't like Roxy's design.
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>>576015704
Sene a good amount of people complaining about too many loli stunner, this is flash backs to Genshin potato healers.
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>>576015547
Your Anby? Your Lycaon? Your Lighter? Your Pulchra?
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>>576015724
I pulled Orphie...I'm a fucking retard
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>>576015731
>Can do that damn X-parry maybe 1 in 20
>1 in 20
??? What
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>>576015731
Do you mean the Adversity mode? Getting 6-12k is normal if you're not a whale.
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>>576012559
piper fucking died but damn what a trooper
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So are Claret and Roxy vampires or something?
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>>576015602
I got both sex elves, so it could not be me
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>>576015608
Good thing I got S Anby / Seed / Trigger and Lucia
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>>576015708
trvthnvke
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>>576015769
>a-rank
>worm
>worm
>a-rank
but yes I do pull out pulchra from time to time
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nangong you rerun
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JUST GIVE ALL THE DEFENDER AGENTS TO INTERRUPT BOSS CONTROL SKILL WHAT THE FUCK?
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Claret had her ribbons shrunk, and facial and hair features sharpened
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Hello I am here to say Claret has actual red panties and not safety shorts
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>>576015815
That last team is something
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>>576015631
I have no idea but I'm tired of my loli stunner graveyard. Even the gigaflop males at least get to be main DPS of different elements.
Hagfags don't understand the real issue with the loli stunner meme but I would GLADLY have the dev pass the torch.
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I'm here to say Claret badly got mogged by Roxy.
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>>576015823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW0yMVlXLvE
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Is Roxy carrying around a coffin like that guilty gear guy? Secretary of defence.?
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>>576015547
ZZZ devs just can’t do anything right, literal fumbles after fumbles since 2.0 and expect more after this
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>>576015890
many are saying this
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anyways so what does armorers do again
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>>576015814
Getting 30k is normal with M0W1 though
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I pulled Alice on the last guarantee banner but didn't get her ball at the same time
I skipped SBilly to pull Orphie instead
I picked Lucia on the free giveaway and not Trigger
I have Velina but I'm skipping Remie

I am he most retarded person in this thread
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https://zzz.gachabase.net/agents/1621/1621/beta?lang=en
I don't see anything related to def, yet her core passive and weapon increase it?
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>>576015984
let's see yours then.
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Uhhh.....
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>>576015887
No extra accessories? She just looks so… generic with just that white bat mask
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>>576015952
Given it has both "Cannon" and "Hammer" forms I'm guessing it's a weaponized cross like that preacher in Trigun.
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>>576016004
self awareness is an important trait. At least you didn't go full retard
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>>576015594
>R(oxy) I(frita) P(ryce)
very subtle devs
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>>576015984
With extreme sweat
With one specific team
With the right RNG (literally need to reset for the right boss moves)
And none of this will work on the next boss
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ROXY LOVE
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>>576015914
mono-ice but AWESOME
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>>576016004
>I skipped SBilly to pull Orphie instead
I did this, but I have Yixuan and got Shungus in a joke 10 pull, So I'm chilling
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>>576015952
The have guilty gear figures in their office among others so I can see the inspiration
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>>576015901
If only theyre not all covered up with an ass curtain huh?
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>>576016018
I thought her ball's info is not available yet
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>>576015547
>IM ASKING WHY ALL THE STUNNERS
But that's realistic, small girls can better aim at your knee-joints and stun you.
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>>576016095
been saying SINCE DAY 1 OF THE TRAILER, that ROXy and PHOENIX are the worst looking HOES and holy fuck Roxy is a stunner (class i need the most), holy fuck im MAD FUCLK

>>576016004
ISNT JANE BALL FINE FOR ALICE, GET IT FROM THE SHOP
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>>576015594
>>576016070
>R.I.P
I see..
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>>576016018
Her being a stunner is almost certainly a placeholder. Wouldn't surprise me if she's a wind armorer
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>>576016069
>At least you didn't go full retard
yeah, I kept my head and didn't pull shungus either time despite having both sunna and zhao and knowing dialyn was coming up
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I've been disappointed with most of the S3 designs but Roxy looks fucking great, especially since she seems to be using a giant wind-cannon for a weapon.
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I might throw some pulls at Claret just to give my Trigger a new home
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>Dont fuck group me with the Shunaguspag aka AodD hater aka retard that replies to ximself three times

>FUKC
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>>576016026
I have well over 30k as a casual player without good rotations, my Remielle was already M2 before starting it though.
There are plenty of clears posted on Youtube and whatnot, some are even less than 6 cost.

>>576016092
That's just goalpost moving though, fact is tons of people were mad and thought this wasn't doable at M0 when it dropped because of skill issues then tons of M0 clears dropped.
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>>576016191
>that ROXy and PHOENIX are the worst looking HOES
kill yourself my man
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>>576016152
Its main stat increases DEF
>>576016212
Maybe but her basics deal quite a lot of Daze
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>>576016212
She doesn't have any of the currently known armorer gimmick that is ignoring crit dmg and focusing on crit rate so I don't think so.
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Whether it’s Trigun or Guilty gear, if that whole ass model reveal and gameplay looks on point with either; I might actually have to give a fuck about a 3.0 character.
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wow
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>>576015813
I can not do it on a fuckin controller, barely managed to improve my ratio by switchin to RB+LB instead of RBx2, either hit it too late or I can't lift my finger off the button in time to press it again before the attack lands and I just do a solo parry
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i-is... it true corin's friend arrived?
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>>576016296
>M2
>M0
notice the difference?
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>>576016226
>Roxy looks fucking great,
We haven't even seen what she looks like......
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>>576016332
Can they fix her outfit next
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>>576016226
>judging before seeing her lower half
Ohnonono
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Animations tonight?
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>>576016296
>tons of M0 clears dropped
Post them then.
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>>576016332
still ugly

>>576016265
I"m VERY FUCKING UPSET, I wanta REAL STUNNER
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>>576016296
The bigger issue is you gotta open your wallet or have clairvoyance to pick the right agents and balls to pull for. It's not like Annihlation where they give you all the tools to do it.
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>>576016378
see
>>576012662
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>>576016332
oh look, literally all it took to unfuck her face was to make the side bangs slightly transparent so you could actually see the outer edges of her eyes and face

exactly like I said was the problem
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Roxy is kinda cute
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>>576016296
you better be a
>casual player
next patch too and get m2 for the next team they decide is the one team that should be able to clear. faggot
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Is there any chance that Cissia might rerun for partial elec shilling or is it still too soon
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>>576016319
She also doesn't have anything a stunner normally would nor does she help the team out in anyway. As she is right now, she's just a dps/sub-dps
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>>576016332
Am I uh…. Suppose to spot any differences?
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>>576016332
This is someone’s edit from a day ago
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>>576016371
>>576016398
I don't think either of you are posting in good faith but here this is just one at 5 cost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7mqXDD07KU
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>>576016332
There’s literally no difference except showing her bat lashes wtf
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Roxy is a slut
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>>576016436
They still need to unfuck the rest of her.
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>>576016469
Cissia has zero synergy with Claret. She wants a two stunner setup, with Koleda being the F2P option.
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>>576015547
Bro this game doesn't even have any true lolis yet, even Zhao has an ass made for pumping out ten kids
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>>576016442
>kinda
Need to see her bio but this pose alone is incredibly sexy
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>>576016504
They shaved down her chin
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New Claret model and Roxy

https://streamable.com/zh384m
https://streamable.com/zh384m
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>>576016528
incoming wormer melty in 3...2....1...
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>>576016528
Oh, now I understand why the leaker said she was goon bait...
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>>576016332
Wife
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>>576016528
How is this the "gooner" model?
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ANIMATIONS
REAL THIS TIME
https://x.com/ZenlessWorld/status/2083411941637103963
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>new class (armorer)
>new damage type (sharp)
are you ready for more uselessly specific DA shilling buffs just for ONE(1) character
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>>576016524
>5 cost
>Literally the best meta unit right now
>Miss any one of them and you're bricked
Thanks dude. Can you tell me which units to pull and which of them need their W-engine for the next cycle?
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>>576016508
doesnt need to be an edit when it actually happens during the animated cutscene
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>>576016528
>>576016561
ZAMN
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>>576016528
Disappointed if this is real, not only is it not degenerate enough to be gooner but also the thighs are too big based on that angle
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>>576016583
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>576016583
WTF ROXY IS A ZOMBIE

HOLY SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>576016528
FUCKING YIXUAN LEOTARD STRIKES AGAIN
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>>576016583
THE SIZE OF THOSE TITTIES. And Roxy looks more like a short woman than a kid, nice
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>>576016528
>Yi Xuan shorts again
Oh my fucking god
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>>576016583
>detached the ribbons
Literally all they needed to do, no idea why they let that release like it did in 3.1.
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>>576015608
REDEEM JANE SAARS WE HAVE TO SAVE HER FROM IRRELEVANCY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>576016528
CUTE
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>>576016528
>the same fucking Chinese hot pants as fucking Yixuan/Yidhari/Lucia.
ENOUUGH. FUUUUUUUUUUCK. DO SOMETHING ELSE YOU CHINESE HACKS.
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>>576016583
Claret looks WAY better
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>>576016528
kek
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Yummers
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>>576016524
I don't own Velina
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>>576016528
HAHAHA skinnyfag BTFO
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>>576016403
Those 3 are well trained
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>>576016646
Again this is just more goalpost moving, but besides that I hope one day you will grow out of your irony poisoning.
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>>576016693
did she get her outfit from Jane's swimsuit?
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>>576016583
HOLY SHIT A REASONABLY DESIGNED COMBAT AXE
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roxybros, i'm thinking we won
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>>576016583
I need her so badly
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>>576016583
>actually adjusted the twintails and nothing else
I won. also Roxy is pure sex
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>>576016583
What kind of homo is skipping Claret? she's so fucking hot.
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>>576016583
>Undead
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>>576016545
I know, but elec shilling season is back and sometimes the rerun banner doesn't match up with the main so I was just breathing hopium..
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>>576016583
>Claret skippa
>Roxy rolla
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are we finally getting someone like soukaku?
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>>576016524
So what you're telling me is this is literally impossible if I don't have this specific set of agents and balls. Good to know.
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>>576016583
>claret
SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>576016583
Wives of Wise
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>>576016837
Her kit description says it transforms into BLOOD AXE mode
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>>576016787
Something about this outfit makes me wanna cum inside these sluts
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>>576016583
the second I saw the preview before 3.0 was even out I knew Roxy was going to be the one agent I was for sure 100% going to pull this season
I am glad to see I was morally and ethically correct in my choice.

she's so fucking pale bros...
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>>576016528
imagine the SMELL of her stinky neet femcel pussy bros...
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>>576016836
I thought the same thing
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>>576016865
>yixuan leotard
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You did get her, right?
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YOU NEED CLARET
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>>576016904
good enough for me
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>>576016838
won what? the yi xuan copy paste?
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>>576016865
>She also does contamination which means Pyrois and Sigrid can use her
>Maybe Dialyn 2.0
The antiloli trannypedo is not gonna like this...
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>>576015608
>>turns out Trigger is the best pick from the selector
nyo.....
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Skipping Roxy too, I thought I'd FINALLY fucking get a thin chick but instead she's the most shortstack character yet, FUCK
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>>576016942
Everyone is thinking this
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>>576016952
It's Jane vs. Trigger for me
Jane may never rerun again so....I dont know
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>>576016953
Nah.
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>>576016952
I haven't used my selector yet. I can get M1W1 Trigger or M1W1 Lucia.
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>>576016952
I already have her m0w1. I could grab M1, but I don't know why people are assuming Trigger will be good for her.
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kek, the trannoids are melting already
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>>576016953
Isn't this thing the same as the anomaly icons
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>>576016992
>She also does contamination which means Pyrois and Sigrid can use her
Not with that shitty kit, she doesn't even use Tempest Coefficient
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>>576016987
god she was so fucking good from the waist up, why did they ruin her with another god damn leotard
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Troonaka will sethe about designs again because there's no wormbanner to be seen in the horizon........
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>>576017056
zzz devs innovating bigly in debuff trackers in games by trying to fit every fucking debuff into one spot
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>Claret uses an axe
Hell yeah
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>>576017050
Claret wants two stunners. Trigger gives fuckhuge bonuses to damage. Claret doesn't suffer from the "ignores def" issue rupture has. Also Trigger's damage amp can amplify Claret's stuns, which are otherwise locked to 150%.
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>>576017014
YOU HAVE AIDS
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Nah im fucking done with this game. Already knew the devs had no fucking clue how to develop their game but this is a new low. They jumped the shark again.
Defense and Rupture will be forever forgotten

ZZZ really died after 1.4

Ill just stay around to doompost
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I think its time to stop giving babes like Claret and Cissia to TZbard for outfit design. Let him work with only ugly characters
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I'd rather have Aventurine in ZZZ rather than stupid Robin tbdesu
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How many substats better does an elemental% 2pc need to be to be worth using over a 30AP 2pc?
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New Velina dropped
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>>576014790
you're putting more thought into it than the devs do
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO I PICKED JANE INSTEAD OF TRIGGER, IT'S OVER
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>>576016952
too late now, gonna put my qingyi to work
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https://x.com/ZenlessWorld/status/2083413791857893539
Gameplay!
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Seems like zombie mixed with vampire hunter.
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mfw I already had trigger + ball at the start
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They will make extremely pale agents but won't make dark skin mommies.
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>>576017181
His latest VH was super successful, so not happening
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>>576017175
>BWEEHHH RUPTURE IS FORGOTTEN
>literally got a rupture agent last patch
Fuck off retard
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>>576017209
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>>576017181
Claret is ugly, though.
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>>576017175
Nice file name
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>>576017209
This bitch should be gang raped
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>>576017175
ellen would never make a post this low IQ
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Trigger, my beloved...
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>need trigger m6 though

zzz
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>>576017269
YSG?
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Only reason why I'm skipping Claret is because Sunbringer might powercreep her...I hope she is anomaly so I can get both
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>NOOOO I HATE NEW CLASSES!! I HAVE TO FARM NEW MATS!!!

you guys do realize it could always be far far worse?
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>>576017330
The pink one
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>>576017270
NTA but you mean two patches ago, we're in 3.1 now.
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>>576017270
>last patch
>3.0

Fucking imbecile lmao
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>>576017175
I agree. And these new damage types are getting out of hand. Its the same shit as genshin and Lunar/nightsoul. I can only imagine what bs will wait for us in Snez.
I only stayed because of this cute shark. I'm still waiting for her rerun. She will be my 1st m6 agent.
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>>576015608
>Goatfuckers baited everyone into a bad pick
Yixuan is never a bad pick, this is delusional thinking.

Also, the developers themselves said they are going to continue with Rupture.
That was a subtle jab at the Defender class, Defenders are the actual dead class, not Rupture. You will see future bosses with sky high DEF that needs Rupture or Pen Ratio.
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>>576017232
I'll wait until a less retarded player records something
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>>576017398
Wish I was Ellen
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kino
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So what Sins has Roxy commited that has lead to her having to carry the cross?
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>>576017247
My wife on the right!
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YAY OUR NEW WORD
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>>576017232
Built for pronebone.
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I now have M1 Trigger and her weapon. I'm probably not going to level it up just yet.
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>>576015608
>Goatfuckers baited everyone into a bad pick
Oh? Where is the new premium support for Rupture? I must have missed it because thats the only way to make Lucia a bad pick
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>>576017370
I feel like you're trying to imply something, but I have no idea what.
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and the dev said
MORE
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I picked Lucia because while I don't have a rupture team at all I figured that I could use her on my Pyrois/Norma team since she still does a fair amount of non-rupture buffing and Norma benefits from sheer force buffs

now apparently Roxy is going to be BiS with Pyirois because she provides contamination for Pyrois' left ult skill?
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>>576017232
Roxy is huge rape bait wtf
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>>576017441
>hammer with wings
Where have I seen this before
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>>576017209
Wife
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>>576017454
It's not sir it's MAIM!
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>>576017421
Delusion, you say?
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>samefagging with images just downloaded from google
Wormpag melty, the pagpag is boiling.
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>>576017581
Me in the middle
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>>576017526
what.. makes you say that
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>Roxy gameplay
Yeah
Before was 90% not rolling
This is now 100% not rolling
Not even a "fun" 10 roll
Just a big nope from me
Claret looks alright though
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>BRAAAAAAAAP
This looks so silly, I really both characters animations.
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>>576017508
You can pick up Silly on the rerun and use him with Norma and Lucia.
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>>576017232
Roxy animations are better too wtf
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>>576017536
The biggest rug pull in the game?
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Glasses = Good
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>AXE
we will be rollin'
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>>
I do think the story works best with Wise being the supportive brother to the useless sister that's given great power than the responsible brother, given great power, with the useless sister shoehorned in as "assistance"
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>>576015272
I never skip cunny
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---ATTENTION DOUCHEBAGS---

ROXY'S LAST HIT IN HER BASIC CHAIN CAUSES HER TO THROW HER COFFIN TO THE GROUND AFTER FLYING INTO THE AIR IN A WIND TORNADO, LOSE CONTROL AND SPLAT ONTOP OF IT SIMILAR TO NANGONG AND MAKES HER LOOK DEAD FOR A SECOND

---ATTENTION DOUCHEBAGS---
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>Claret is just moving at lightspeed so you can't even see what she's doing
Holy shit can they stop fucking doing this
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WORMVERIAN STATUS?
DETECTIVE CROWE STATUS???
WORMPICO STATUS???
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>>576017508
I warned you bro.
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>>576017680
>better
lmao
>>
Roxy won
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Maybe just stop rolling for meta and roll for who you like? Every new agent get powercrept by the next patch agent so nothing really matters anymore if it's gonna be the same routine.
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KURU KURU NIGGAS
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>>576017742
Women cannot be trusted with great power
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She should've been fire, there are waaaaaaaay too fucking many electric dps characters.
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>>576017820
HOLY
FUCKING
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>576017421
>>576017493
Rupture is literally gone. The leak we had is holding up, showing not a single agent in 3.x is rupture, and by extension none of the bosses will favor rupture.
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https://files.catbox.moe/iu3h8f.png
I want to put Lucy in an outfit just like pic related. God she would look so cute in shortalls.
>1 day till Lucy Swimsuit
GIVE IT TO ME NOW.

Also is there any character you've maxed out all their skills on?
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>>576017232
So Claret is electric because....they devs wanted to fuck her over or something?
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>>576017232
Alright so that leak said that Claret is for Cissia, the ONLY thing that can make me roll for her now, is if she interacts funnily in the story with Cissia, I have high hopes.
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>>576017820

mfw
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>>576017748
I will jerk off to this
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>>576017829
Yes, that's why she needs a man overseeing her
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>>576017820
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
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>>576017742
Nah, shonen doesn't work with femaleMCs like Belle
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>>576017767
Boiled
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I am putting a stinky nocturnal goat up for sale. Any takers?
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I was considering spending my tape bank on remie because I was warming up to her after the 3.1 story
I am now hard saving for Roxy and her engine.
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>>576017832
This all but confirms Sunbringer will be fire
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We like it
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Fuck it, I'm getting her.
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>>576017917
ZZZ is seinen
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>>576015272
yup, guess I'm going for both free lucia and her sig since there's nothing going on next patch.
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sex with my wife roxy
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roxy = must roll
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>Koleda
>25% team damage bonus
>32% cdmg
>fast as fuck stun
how does this compare to newer stunners again
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>>576017832
the animations add so much SOUL to her thank god
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>>576017832
Her element looks like blood, she should be ether or physical
>>576017854
>not a single agent in 3.x is rupture
So what? If a character you like is rupture than you will need her
>>576017854
>by extension none of the bosses will favor rupture
Bruteforce it
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>>576017742
Did not ask
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Roxy looks like she cuts her wrists.
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>>576017820
R34L SOVL
>>
Ignoring the fact that she seems to easily exhaust herself, Roxy’s shtick seem to make a bizarre sorta sense with the flint workshop theme. Hammer, fans, very forge coded

Claret with the definitely not a blood-axe tho? And a harlequin-esque mask? What are we doing here.
>>
where are the males?
>>
Roxy's model looks so much better than Claret's it's not even funny. Even her hair is better-modeled.

Shame about the Yixuan pants, but I can overlook it.
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>>576017832
I need Electric DPS. I skipped those other ones.

I'm pulling Claret.
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>>576018017
Absolutely mogs jufufu
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>>576017820
This slut is going to build a shit ton of wind anomaly while stunning in 10 seconds isn't she? Remielle and Velina rugpulled too lmao
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>>576017996
Works with the same rule
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>>576017829
That's why Wise is there for her
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>>576018017
Not as good as the holy trinity of Dialyn, Norma, and Gong, BUT she's now a viable free option instead of being a useless brick.
>>
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>>576018017
>no stun extension
I guess she's better than Pulchra now?
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so still no new a-rank? wow
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>>576018104
>This slut is going to build a shit ton of wind anomaly while stunning in 10 seconds isn't she?
She's the slowest stunner in the game so no
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I dont have an abloom DPS so I might skip Remi to get Claret and Roxy. It all depends on Sunbringer
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>>576018108
False
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>>576018148
fagverian is the a rank if we are getting any
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>>576018148
Pyrios hello??
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>>576017232
>Roxy spinning inside the tornado
KEKW. I love it.
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>>576018017
*cough* A Anby, b- bros. I don't feel so good...

*WHEEZE*
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>>576017658
Same except skipping Claret too, maybe someday this game will finally give me a chick that doesn't have 5+ pounds of lard in her legs
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MASSIVE NEW HOLLOW EXPLORATION MAP IN A TOPS SECRET LAB

PROMEIA'S BATARANGS ALL OVER THE MAP FROM HER BATTLING A MONSTER THAT GOT LOOSE INSIDE
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>>576018108
Seinen is far more flexible, especially the recent ones. Belle wouldn't be too out of place in modern seinen
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>>576018057
anon, she has a blunt side of her axe
you do know what that is for right?
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wait

who did the leaker say are in 3.3 again
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>>576018148
Maybe Crowe. They gave him a weirdly detailed design for an NPC, not to mention the unique bangboo.
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so why is yanagi the only elec anomaly and burnice the only fire anomaly in 2 years
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>>576017820
sovlnado....
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>>576018119
>Norma sneak
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>>576018104
"Stunner" with no self impact buff. She won't even survive being compared to fucking Anby if we only look at their stunning capabilities.
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>>576018193
he's the obligatory s-rank male before actual VH level agent (Sunbringer)
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>Noooo don't enjoy the ga....ACK!
Analwormer and Queertranny melty.
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>>576017820
Roxy spin >> Fufu spin
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>patch with plausibly Halloween themed characters will come out a month before Halloween
I’m gonna FREAK
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>>576017232
Claret kinda cool, absolutely 0 interest in Roxy though, other than looking at her thighs occasionally.
>>
Sunna fiber synchronize, Kamui Senketsu.
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>>576018220
>you just know she won't have killed it and we'll have to clean up
Why is Promeia such a fucking jobber holy shit
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why did they call it "armorer' if it's just another onfield DPS class
dont get me wrong im happy Claret is seemingly a character you actually play as but "Armorer" sounds like some kind of support role
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>>576018246
phoenix, supposedly fire anomaly
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>>576018230
Can't see shit inside a stupid tornado. Easy skip.
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Is Claret and adult? I don't want to goon or pull for pedobaits.
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i wish hoyo games do other festivities besides summer vacations like halloween, christmas, etc
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>armorer
A new class? Are they just going to keep introducing new classes and elements every patch?
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>>576018104
She has some of the lowest base impact in the game at 78 and has no ways to buff her daze or impact aside from disc sets. She is so obviously not a stunner that I'm baffled you retards are falling for it. Remember when there was a event ball that everyone was convinced was meant for defense character only for it to be for ruptures? Exact same thing is happening with Roxy
>>
>detective wormwe
>playable
KEEEEEEK
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>>576018230
Ok yeah sorry Claret I'm team Roxy
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>>576018393
She’s 12
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>Lumiflux is just Yuzuha's damage-matching mechanic as a whole new element
>Armorer is just Ben's defense-scaling mechanic as a whole new class
fucking devs
>>
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>>576018413
We got 1 new class for 2.x
The "new" elements are just reskins
We've gotten 2 new elements and 1 new class for 3.x and it's only 3.2
>>
post roxy character selection animations webm
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>>576018230
why does her weapon change size like that?
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>>576003310
>>576003310
>>576003310
What now you filthy fucking nigger
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>>576018391
oops bad frame
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Ye I want your butthole
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>>576017421
>trusting the devs
tv mode wont go away it will just be more fun kek
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I only like short girls, but I've been passively following this game for a long time and they're almost all the same class. How viable is it to run a mono-loli team?
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>>576018413
a new class means

>more short term farming
>less cope engine options
>more niche DA/Shiyu buffs that punish you for not pulling

basically all the little levers devs usually pull to artifiically bump up engagement
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>>576018353
I hope she is armorer so Sunbringer can be the fire anomaly
>>
New class/elements and yet they still can’t figure out how to make more character combo animations aside from Ben/Koleda and the Angels of Delusion.
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>>576018578
>How viable is it to run a mono-loli team?
Pretty easy, new buffed Nekomata works well with Norma + Sunna.
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>>576017421
>Also, the developers themselves said they are going to continue with Rupture.
Of course they're going to say that, they would never get anyone to bite down on the Lucia bait if they said they weren't planning on adding ruptures anytime soon
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>finally a skip banner
Thank you Claret
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Wormxisters, I don't feel so good.....
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>loli zombie
People wants to fuck this..?
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Ok guys what new element/class is coming in 3.3
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>>576017820
CUNNADO
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COOL MALES STATUS?
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>>576018578
Use the AoD team, all lolis and one of the mot broken teams in the game
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>>576017854
>Rupture is literally gone
No it's not moron, That's like saying Attacker is dead class.
>3.x is all that matters, game will end at 3.x
Retard alert.
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>>576018707
Depends on how warm she is
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do you want people to be hyper bricked if they cant be in one team because of an ult anmation?
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>All this new element/damage shilling compared to 2.x
>No Defender rework in sight
My desire to continue playing ZZZ is dwindling...
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>Claret is Elec, not Fire
Wait hold the pag up..........WHY?
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Brother in Sunbringer, Koleda is only dogshit because her attacks and ER are slow as shit
Just change her attack animation and make them faster and her ER accumulation too, she would be Norma-tier, just a little below Dialyn, her attack and daze her hit are actually good enough since day 1, she is just REALLY SLOW AS SHIT IN A GAME THAT WANTS YOU TO BE FAST, WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU SMOKING HOYO?
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>>576018792
Because Sunbringer is Fire Armorer
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>Tried to get Aria
>Loss the 50/50
>Sad
>Claret leaks
Nice. My Electric teams definitely needs some spicing up.
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>>576017704
Touch
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>>576018707
yeah
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>>576018707
you dont?
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APOLOGIZE
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>>576018791
Armorer is the defender rework anon, they just made a new class so you have to spend rolls on engines
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>no blood
>no bats
anyone disappointed
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>>576018408
Christmas is too politically sensitive even if it's going to be some immersive fictional variant and too close to New Year so that's what they've been focusing on
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>>576018792
because her axe is also a guitarrrrrrrrrrr jk
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>>576018578
Nekomata, Norma, Zhao(?)
Aria, Nangong, Sunna
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>>576018707
SEX
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Touching Ellen
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>>576018825
>Sunbringer
>Sun
>Fire
I.........suppose that makes sense
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>>576018858
>roxy wind support
hmm...
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>>576018801
>Thinking the devs play their game
lol
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>>576018408
Why would ZZZ feature western holidays no less ones explicitly tied to Christianity, which doesn't even exist in the ZZZ universe
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The fact she’s paler than bloody Vivian is kinda hilarious. How are you bleacher than a Banshee?
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NEW CITY DISTRICT IS COOL

VAMPIRE MANSION

FLINT WORKSHOP IS A CYBERPUNK VAMPIRE CASTLE WITH A MOAT
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Defender is honestly about tanking, Zhao heals and Caesar blocks, it actually doesn’t make sense to make it the def class when Zhao exists
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>>576018230
I wish she was more like Pela from HSR
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>>576018858
For ever believing that?
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>>576018858
Was this before HSR collab confirmation?

Holy shit so this is all spot on then?
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>>576018990
holy cute
that thigh jiggle though... too much meat for a zombie
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Apparently new skins are Halloween themed.
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>>576018915
Wait until Drip, Roxy is almost definitely not a stunner with how her kit is
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>>576018748
just warm her up with your masculine body heat
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>>576018707
Wind
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>>576018992
poor Seth, no one remembers him
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>>576018630
Angel's of delusion also got a worse version since Ben and Koleda actually has a completely different ult animation while AoD ult animation is not changed at all. Just adding one more of them for each of the attack animation so technically the animation stays the same.
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Nekomata is so strong now.
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>>576018994
She would unironically be improved by stockings (torn)
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>>576018965
huh?
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>>576019048
I'll always welcome a Chinese JiangShi cosplay skin for zombie roxy.
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>>576019048
Won't the CCP rape them for that?
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Roxy render
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>>576019138
you've experienced the light, good.
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>>576019183
It’s fine as long as they don’t call it Halloween or call me t a ghost
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She’s flat but more bottom heavy
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>>576019204
And still no leaks about her core...
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>Speed blitzing with Axe instead of slow attacks
why are zzz devs so obsessed with fucking speed
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>anons unironically believe the random detective npc is going to be playable
I guess that makes sense, no wonder they also believe the 3 in 1 Sunbringer lmao
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>>576019204
built like an onahole
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>>576019208
Are these broken stats for post buff Neko, nekobro? Should I focus more on atk?
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>>576019204
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
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>>576019138
I thought she's supposed to rival Shungus?
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>>576019282
>>576019204
THIN GIRL ANON

IS IT OVER OR ARE WE SO BACK?
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Don’t know if I am rolling next patch, I’ll wait and see if I like the characters in the story I guess
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>finally finished bury your tears with the past (A)
honestly feel like skipping part B, should i?
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>>576018532
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>>576019183
we've had halloween theme marketing since s1. Official art btw
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>love roxy's design
>she's going to only work with clairet
Do I pull a unit I literally cannot use? I think I do.
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>>576019282
I believe that's called "pear shaped"
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>>576019183
Billion chinese gachas have halloween skins
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>>576019057
>with how her kit is
Kek what? We have almost nothing of her kit yet
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>>576016004
>got capped in the ass in a mere two patches
Nah bro I got your back, I'm going to M1W1 Harumasa in a few weeks.
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>>576019183
Nyo
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>>576018990
how is this "gooner model", fucking faggot leakers
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>finally get Dialyn for Banyue
>or get the only Wind Stunner
Well this is incredibly awkward.
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>>576019204
>
why homoyo always cover asses
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Why is yet another Electric dps being added
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>>576019393
Drac will 100% be one of the new meme class since she sues a shield, you want her?
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>>576015608
Funny because I went with instinct. That one guy promoting Jane when realistically no new players have Velina and never thought to counter his shilling because of that fact.
Goat could be substitued by Astra who is available for if you were shilling to get Remielle which is what everyone should be doing since FOMO hits hard. I started after the Miyabi rerun and suffering from it is real.
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>>576019460
nobody cares about your pulling plan, homo
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>>576019307
Speed is cool
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>>576019282
Uuuoooh
We. came to Roscalifer to be Roxy's sensei.
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>>576018879
I think Neko needs a support character to get her additional ability. But that team might work with Dialyn instead of Norma since she's physical damage.
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>>576019507
Her hands look so fucking small
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>>576019419
Que? The only thing we don't have is her additional ability.
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>>576018879
>Neko, Norma, Zhao
This seems fun. It's a shame I don't like idolslop but it seems like this game releases short girls often enough that it should eventually be fine.
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>>576019374
Yeah
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>>576019419
The only thing she's missing are her mindscapes and AA. Even without those, not only does she provide no buffs to the team but she stuns slower than fucking A-rank anby because she has 50 less impact than every other stunner. This also makes Impact disk 6 far worse on her than other stunners as well, further widening the gap. Her core gives her defense for fucks sake
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>another new element
Wtf?
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Quick post thing
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So will the vh sunbringer be an armorer too?
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>>576019507
CUTE BOOTS
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>>576019610
Class not element
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Corin Infirita Pyrce Wickes
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>>576019339
very good very good though I think you can improve on crit rate by trading with cdm just a bit and maybe get higher atk% but it's a nitpick, what disc are you using btw I guess it depends on the disc I'm using 4pc wd with atk% 2pc
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>Armorers do Pierce damage because....THEY JUST DO OKAY!?
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>>576018992
>Zhao heals
zhao's heals is such a tiny part of her kit
she buffs her own crit rate and gives the squad huge ATK, DMG and Crit DMG buffs, she's a support in all but name
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>>576019351
The skinnyfag specifically wants thin legs, Roxy's legs are too thick for him.
>>576019393
Isn't Roxy designed to work with Sigrid?
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Bros...the A-rank.....
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>>576012616
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>>576019507
Yi Xuan was a mistake
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>>576019694
Never happening again
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>>576019618
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>>576019563
I see, I never played Neko... In that case you could also use Lucy in place of Zhao.
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>>576019048
I wish Yidhari and Lucia had Halloween skins
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>>576019598
Wich is a huge deal, a lot of the best buffs are there
>>576019607
>not only does she provide no buffs to the team
We dont know that yet
>she stuns slower than fucking A-rank
Her recomended teams are Shungus, who doesnt need it, and Sigrid, who will probablu run double stunner and has a lot of daze herself
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>>576019204
Her shoes stand out too much I find.
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What the fuck is an armorer
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>>576018990
I'm kidnapping this
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>>576019775
The support requirement is a new thing. Originally her additional ability only worked with same attribute or faction, which made her teambuilding pretty limited. She's a lot better now that any support can work.
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>>576019492
drac won't be playable unless hoyo BREAKS THE PATTERN
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I picked Trigger and god Im glad I did. I didn't know her ass constantly jiggles in her menu animations. Plus snipers are cool.
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>>576019507
got I love flat, bottom heavy girls so fucking much
she's so pale....
her legs are so bare....
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>>576019138
it was her birthday so the devs buffed her to the moon
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>>576019204
I dig the halloween designs. Clarets pretty cool too.
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>>576019282
she's more stacked than the Sunna or Fufu
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>>576019481
finally gonna level up my sanby now
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>>576020065
Dracaena has a playable model it's Lindverne that worries me
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So Roxy is the wind support design for Pyrios?
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>>576018707
PUT THE BANNER UP RIGHT NOW
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>>576018707
I regret blowing my load on Norma.... This might be the biggest 2D to 3D improvement of all time
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>>576018707
honestly i thought that she would be the easiest skip ever based on her 2d art but she looks so fucking good bros. THE FENCE OF A GRAVEYARD TOP WITH THE GRAVE?!?!? genius. i'm literally pulling for everyone from 3.0 to 3.2 huh...
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I rolled Norma but I think I'll be skilling Claret for Roxy because I love Roxy's design. Plus I'll need to skip a character anyway after getting Sigrid. I don't think it'll be bad to have two stunners anyway.
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>>576021079
it was the best design in the trailer
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>>576019507
>Another Yixuan/Lucia/Yidhari design

I expect this to flop
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>>576014408
Nina buff



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