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>[Arcane: Dust of Forgotten Steps] Operator Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jeh2M3HWnpI
>1.4 [Homecoming] Version Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxURfVAVSfE
>1.4 [Homecoming] Version Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G3Qm_CV0Eo
>1.4 [Homecoming] Development Insights
https://youtu.be/p8vRGChs5-4

>[HOMECOMING] CONTENT SCHEDULE
[7/16] — [Yinglung Pass] New zone available
[7/16] — [North Wuling Exclusion Zone] New zone available
[7/16 - 8/09] — [Gaze North to the Rift] 6* Caster Arcane
[7/16] — [Echoes of War] Permanent Combat Challenge mode
[7/30 - 8/16] — [HEAT RAGE! MEGA ARENA!] Limited time Combat Challenge event
[8/09 - 8/30] — [Bedazzling Dawnstar] 6* Supporter Liino
[8/09 - 8/30] — [The Rooted Realm] Limited time event
[8/06 - 8/30] — [Howlers of the Crag] New Umbral Monument series
[8/19] — [Artful Realm of Six Cardinals] New Delver of the Cryptic set
>Official Website
https://endfield.gryphline.com/en-us
>Official EN X (News)
https://x.com/AKEndfield
>DEV Comm (Latest Developer Update)
https://endfield.gryphline.com/en-us/news/7017

>SKPORT Daily Sign-in
https://game.skport.com/endfield/sign-in?header=0&hg_media=skport&hg_link_campaign=tools
>Twitch Drops
https://endfield.gryphline.com/special/third-party-binding?channel=twitch
>Reward Codes
ENDFIELDRENEW
ENDFIELDGIFT
ENDFIELD4PC

>Wikis
https://wiki.skport.com/endfield (Official)
https://warfarin.wiki/en
https://perlica.moe
https://endfield.wiki.gg/
>Blueprint Guides
https://talospioneers.com/en
>Stickers
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FugYjsA0z-F7c5Zz5yMTG_npYqujFRTo (Arcane/Liino)

>/end/ Website
https://end-cc.github.io
>Fr/end/s
https://cryptpad.fr/sheet/#/2/sheet/edit/QyoBnv93W67MtwI8wEbH6ohc/
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Vouivre.
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WE LOVE CHEN!
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>>576089595
Chex
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Pinkstink level critical.
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Birb wife
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>wake up
>see this

What do you do?
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>>576089993
I pretend I'm a cat
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>>576089993
Ask her to get the fuck back into the bed and get back to sleep
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>>576089993
Cum
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>>576089993
Give her a good morning kiss
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What's her appeal?
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>>576089993
brush her aside and go smooch Chen
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ai yvonne
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Endmin wants to be tightly wrapped by tails. Everyone knows this!
If you don't have a tail... sorry...
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>>576090717
>ayakon
Kill yourself familia
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>>576090863
I want to be pegged by tails
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>>576091091
This, but their futacocks instead
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Would she be a good wife?
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>>576091471
Yes, but only if you somehow make her quit her job
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>>576091471
Too much of a workaholic, who would look after our children?
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>>576091471
Pro manipulator. Even worse than Perly.
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>>576089763
The game is great, but they really need to work on monetization. There's literally nothing to spend on - active players can easily get every operator they want, while dupes are both firmly outside the range of impulse buys while being completely unnecessary.

My suggestion? For every non-filler patch, they should sell profile cards/interface themes/decoratives at a modest price (between ten to thirty dollars) revolving around the region and/or key story beats. This creates a way for fans to say "I love this area/chapter" while they're still hyped, in a way that allows HG to monetize those feelings; crucially, in a way that doesn't affect game balance at all, nor require a significant amount of dev resources. These should also be a lot easier to manage than character skins.
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>>576091471
would get postpartum depression and kill herself
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Would she be good for marriage?
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>>576091725
Waaaaay too autistic
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>>576091725
After she got hopepilled? Yeah, very
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looks way cleaner than old forges. gotta figure out heavy xiranite now
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>>576091725
yes and she would be a good mother, too, hopepilling her children
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>>576091471
For a young handsome man, of course.
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>>576091471
You'll find her hanging in the closet 3 months in
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>>576091471
Define "good". She's clearly an ultra-high-spec spouse who can easily provide for an entire city, let alone household... But you're not going to be spending much time with her. Expect a lot of the dinners you cook to go uneaten, and to have to explain to the kids for the tenth time in a row why she couldn't attend their ball game/play/recital/etc. Plus, you have to consider what you're bringing to the table as the trophy - if you're smart enough to keep up with her in conversation, great! That's almost certainly not anyone here, so you're going to have to obsess over maintaining your looks. Again, most people here are barely keeping themselves together, so reaching and maintaining a proper trophy standard is going to suck.

She's perfect for a non-trivial slice of people, beyond what they could ever hope to find in someone else... But it'd be a miserable relationship for a ton of people.
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>>576091725
Let's get her familiar with how friendships work first, before introducing more advanced concepts.
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>>576089763
>best story chapter so far
>banger boss fight
>great versatile banner unit
>massive factory update
>fun combat events

But what went wrong? Revenue is still declining.
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>>576092238
Thanks, grok
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>>576092403
No skins to spend money on.
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>>576092403
factory is scaring normies away
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>>576092403
People love the patch, and a significant number of new players appear to have joined... But what is there to spend money on? Nothing. People just don't benefit from anything past the monthly card and battlepass.
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>>576092403
Gacha players are subhuman. If you are not a hoyo clone you don't make money.
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>>576092403
It's CN IOS revenue only. I doubt Chinese players playing on iphones are the majority of Endfields playerbase.
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>>576089993
kiss her
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oh I just realized they only call the even numbered patches "core" chapter in the trailer titles
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Where there are /wuwa/jeets, I slay them.
Where there are hopechads, I slay them.
Mine, is the way of the false flag.
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>>576092403
No skins no pay
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>>576092403
the schizo who made the reddit chart changed endfield's revenue from what their website shows to make it be lower than last month's
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>>576092730
PlotcuckGAWD
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>>576091471
>doesn't got with you after Wuling arc
she's like those one time girls.
Meanwhile Arcane is actually going to apply in Endfield Industry.
I prefer women who's actually making an effort over hard to get.
women hard to get = manipulative.
women making an effort = actually cares about (you)
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who's the succ support for Arcane?
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>>576093109
>women hard to get = manipulative.
This. Leek fags are weak fags.
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>>576091725
yes
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How much longer until I can roll for this one? Newfagbro btw
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>>576092550
to be honest I was initially hoping they would go all-in on the factory stuff, scare all the normies off on purpose and have a niche for themseleves

as opposed to competing with all the hoyoslop, and having to keep the factory parts just as a tacked-on feature that you can solve with a blueprint in five minutes
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>hard to get
How is Leek playing hard to get? That would be Si.
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>>576093380
Uhh possibly 2+ months
There's a chance she's a solo banner in 1.6 so horseman and typhon in 1.5
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>>576093157
The what
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>inb4 aetherspace is yet another precursor project that deviated from its original purpose
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>>576092403
anon
it is a mobile-only revenue chart that only covers chinese iOS spending
the methodology to gather the numbers just is not in favor of games that are mostly played on PC/console, which is why HSR is in the top 5 every month and why OG Arknights is in the top 20
we know that the game had a huge revenue surge in july. we know that from the tweet about how japanese players ate arcane up and that there was a big jump from the previous month. but this chart doesn't cover japanese players or console/pc sales.

>that's cope, why is wuwa so high then
while it might not run especially well on mobile, the game is braindead, you just mash to win in everything including endgame
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We need operators like ho'olheyak or eblanna asap
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>>576092403
first of all that sales chars shows mobile revenue and not the PC revenue.
second Gryphline stated on their first earnings was around 240-270 million dollars alone on PC users and majority of their players are PC platform users.
So no matter what mobile sales charts are being posted here all irrelevant.
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>>576092730
FUARK
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>>576093525
vortex
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>>576091725
minutes after the marriage
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>>576093610
not really
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>>576092238
Good analysis that nobody asked for on a gacha game thread.

>>576093109
She can't exactly leave the whole city to fend for itself. In a more serious setting they might've gotten together once the aggeloi crisis was over. But we know it never will be, live service games don't have endings.
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>>576093004
The website revises their estimates for a few days after each month, so that's most likely the cause of the difference. Assuming it wasn't just a simple transcription error or somesuch.
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What if the foundation was created by precursors that managed to wake up and theres a sarcophagi room somewhere in talos 2.
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>>576093906
I would honestly love this, would be cool to have new Precursor characters pulling the strings and not just Priestess and/or Doc again.
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>latin lyrics
>greek names
grecorroman kino
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Trimmed my IDF medals.
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>>576093380
No one knows, HG is run by Ardashir and isn't fond of giving people more than hints.
Educated guesswork suggests either next patch or the patch afterwards, but it's not something you'd rest your hat on.
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Fuck
Marry
Kill
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>>576094095
Me on the right
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>>576094084
https://youtu.be/as3dVyM8__8
Somniomamcer Null Set was so much better but Endfield is not going to see any of the kino OG Arknights makes
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>>576093004
Kek you weren't kidding. The degree of obsession with this game is off the charts by now.
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>>576094208
Leektards on suicide watch
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>>576093602
>>576093602
>it is a mobile-only revenue chart that only covers chinese iOS spending
You have your wires crossed somehow. This is mobile in general, not just China. It's all fake magic numbers, but it's also true that this game doesn't do great on mobile, including Japan.
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>>576094208
Marry
Marry
Marry
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>>576094208
Fuck Si
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>>576094208
Hum...
Fangyi would never recover from someone else being sacrificed to save her, so I'm afraid she's going to have to be the "kill" despite being my favorite.
Li is just starting to learn how to relationship after confronting her old traumas, so she should probably be the "fuck".
Which I guess means Si is the "marry" by default. Fuck, that's going to be obnoxious...
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>>576092403
>the best patch fucking flopped
>the factory is a real problem righ now
doombros we are so fucking back!!
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>>576094208
Image already in order.
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>>576093602
it covers global android, global ios and chinese ios.
the real issue is that ST's free facing end increments in units of I think $10k up until $1M, and then increments of $1M after that. So in order for Endfield's revenue to actually go up it would have needed to have made at least +50% increase in monthly revenue on one of those storefronts.
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>>576092730
I tried Wuwa and didn't last three days
Rolls are stingy to pull for limited characters.
no interesting 5* standard characters to reroll on.
Without both of those factors, it's going to be a huge lose of interest among the new players.
If I compare it on other game.
Endfield has Last Rite who is cute and good damage dealer.
ZZZ has Nekomata who is cute and Rina/Grace who is sexy best of all they all got buff
HSR has Bronya who's gorgeous and actually useful to this day
Worst off all the first chapter of their game is Chinkoid plot which a snooze fest.
>m-muh combat
doesn't matter when the first chapter is boring and beginner freebies are so little.
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>>576094208
KILL
KILL
KILL
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>>576094710
Sex with Xaihi
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>>576094208
Fuck Fangyi, Arcane, Si
Marry Fangyi, Arcane, Si
Kill Ardashir
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>>576094567
>doombros we are so fucking back!!
dude
phone revenue not PC revenue
>>576093641
it's like you're roasting the mobile sales of an ONLY retail seller.
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>>576092403
this game will never recover...the chinese Arknights fandom scares off the "ML-fags" so a ML style story is pointless if chinese side gatekeeps them

the factory system is dogshit, it's time to admit and while the combat isn't boring, it does get repetitive.

we need to follow the same path as the original AK with married canon couples, canon gay characters and resl lesbians (no bait).
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>>576094084
>covering his face "I see no evil i do no evil"
>tries to kill us
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>>576091471
Endmin is a total simp for her but its clear she doesn't really give a fuck at the end of the recent story.
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>>576094208
>Fuck
>Marry
>Kill
yes in that order too.
Arcane is good for marriage.
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I'm quite surprised about the overall lack of shitposting around the revenue pvp. I don't care if hopekeks or doomkeks won, its a nice turn of events
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>>576095369
Endmin is just everyone's therapist
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>break....
Break what?
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>>576095407
Things aren't looking too good for certain other games in the following months and they know it.
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>>576095252
>we need to follow the same path as the original AK
bro they triple downed with Reclamation Algorithm, they don't care if normies don't like the factory mechanic
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>>576095252
i don't believe AKE is "ML-style." there's the protag everyone looks up to and likes, and many of their coworkers are women who respect them. there's only one actual established romantic relationship, and it's between endmin and fangyi

while the factory scares off new players, people who stick around consider it the best aspect of the game. it's a "you can't please everyone" type situation
the combat needs more complex enemies and more complex character kits, and we've been trending in that direction

as for your last point i really don't see how that would improve anything or make people more interested
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>>576095542
the limit
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>>576095252
>we need to follow the same path as the original AK with married canon couples, canon gay characters and resl lesbians (no bait).
While your reasoning is deeply flawed in many respects, I concur that your conclusion would benefit the game.
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>>576095407
Everyone understands what it means for AKE. I'd be interested to see if other games' communities are shitting on the game over revenue, but I think they just don't care.
Probably something like, "I guess AKE is still just holding on, huh? Didn't they just have a big patch? Oh well," and that's it.
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>>576095586
Can't be any worse than the outlook for Endfield. This patch is out of gas and there is still a whole month left, so that's going to be terrible. Followed by horse cock. Going to be the punching back of the gacha world for quite some time.
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>>576095252
>resl lesbians
yeah? we already got those
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>>576096017
There's still Liino's banner and character quest.
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>>576095407
People are more interested in gravedancing over the game for gals rather than following the minutia of Endfield.
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>>576095804
>one actual established romantic relationship, and it's between endmin and fangyi
lol
lmao
That's unrequited love, not an established romantic relationship
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>>576095252
>canon gay characters
>plural
she didnt even score
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>>576096125
Yeah as I said, that tank is empty.
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Liino's character quest should be the first piece of in game content that started development after the game's release. It will be interesting to see what it's like.
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>>576096306
it will be filler
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>>576096125
I confess that I'm a bit worried over the implications of her banner - she's going to do well based purely on how ridiculously well she supports Fangyi, completely ignoring her lack of buildup, mediocre story, and dismal design. That signals to HG that what people want is primarily powercreep and they can ignore the rest.
They're not going to radically change course on the basis of one banner - but it's a single data point they can come back to when crafting their future plans, and it's not one that speaks well of the player base.
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>>576095985
I am pretty sure that most fanbases don't give a shit about revenue pvp. There is however a small, and very vocal group of tribalists out there who revolve their everyday life around flaring tensions and throwing out numbers.
That kind of degenerate behavior isn't exclusive to gacha games either.
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>>576096267
Well, Provence doesn't have a boyfriend or anything... There could be a reason for that. We don't follow our operators personal lives all that closely, so maybe Scavenger's interests bore more fruit than we assume?
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>>576096461
>mediocre story
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>>576096461
We don't even know if her story is any good yet, geez, calm down, doomfag. Camille came out of nowhere too, y'know, and people like him and thought his story was one of the game's best.
>Dismal design
I personally think the jetboot idol thing seems fun.
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the next male banner will tank revenue.
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>>576096956
well yeah, it's a fucking banana horse
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>>576093602
PSN sales are bad as well. World wide Endfield is doing the worse out of all the 3D gachas.
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I hope everyone is having a fantastic time playing Endfield today. Ohoho! Cheers gentlemen!
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>>576096956
>the next male banner will tank revenue.
good
need a break.
Arcane dried me up.
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>>576093429
Blueprints should only be usable in V4 and Wuling. There, I said it. Two regions worth of content for players to learn how core mechanics of the game works, moving on, you *should* be able to do everything yourself without the handholding. Arknights didn't have a "press x to win button" to this degree, if you watched guides and used friend units, you still had to manually place units and activate their skills while following along to videos. Every other region from here on out should be the same, either learn how to build a factory, or going online to copy each building, belt, and pipe placement by hand.
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My game is doing 300 billion in sales, pc sales of course. No you cant see them
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>>576096673
>>576096701
Normally, I'd extend the benefit of doubt to a fresh story out of nowhere - Laeva and Camille's stories were acceptable in quality despite the lack of foundation, after all.
But there's just not much interesting one can do with an idol in Valley 4, and the teasers we were given support that conclusion.
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>>576097265
nyes thats endfield
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>>576096956
the next male banner is after the typhon > rossi > si gauntlet, it would be immoral for HG to not include another one.
>>576097058
sure
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>>576095252
MLfags are so powerful that they managed to make a sucess one of most boring female characters in gacha history
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>>576097341
>Old ranking
Now post the current one
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i did it bwos
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>>576097251
while i sort of agree, endfield is just not a very casual game in anything except this regard, and something about it needs to be made easier for normies somewhere
the factory is the biggest point of contention for the game so unfortunately its what gets beat with the casualization bat. i do think you're missing out on a lot if you don't try to solve your factory yourself
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>>576097475
why do you think the revenue ranking from two weeks after the update is more relevant than its launch window?
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>>576097402
dykebros how do we recover?
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I've never met a single person that plays this shit on mobile.
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>>576097592
mobile revenue.
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>>576097546
wait I just realized it showed last weeks instead of this week
chen love btw
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>>576097574
Peaking high doesn't matter if you can't maintain that high rank which Endfield didn't.
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>>576097657
even hg said 70% of players are on pc. Mobile is a fucking fraction of what they make. Even ogaks pc userbase is much higher then mobile. Simply cuz this franchise doesnt appeal to normies.
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I keep fucking forgetting I have these little shits
wasting my sanity for no reason
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>>576089763
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>>576097938
those are for hoarding thoughever
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>>576097402
>But Wuwa
Rent free
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>>576097567
The thing is that normies don't care about the factory at all, they just want to press battle skill and win their three minute timer dps gamemodes. Let them do that! Leave the factory side of things to the people who actively want to play it. They don't NEED the factory to play with their shiny new characters and jingling keys.
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>>576098070
>they just want to press battle skill and win their three minute timer dps gamemodes
>Normies
Normies don't touch endgame or combatslop events
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>>576097402
>>576097592
what's with the forced Mobile revenue when the Gryphline already stated that the majority of the players are PC users?
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>>576097305
a djall in v4 is an interesting idea since it's recovering from a recent attack + disaster.
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>>576097996
no these are for hoarding
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HOLLY SHIT I DID IT
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>this game has no future with the factory.

It needs to be removed
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>>576098254
You're right, they're all playing the top three 3d gachas on the revenue chart
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>>576098449
leave.
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>>576098261
shitposters are incredibly desperate to shit on Endfield, even if they have to use made up salesjeet numbers and dishonest comparisons to do so.
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Do you guys play other mobileslop besides gacha? I'm playing Brawl Stars rn and having a lot of fun. Kinda of makes me understand why these things are always in top rankings jn mobile.
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>>576098261
>NTR smile
citation needed on the Gryphline statement btw
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ZZZ in 1.X - TV Mode aka the thing that dragged down the game and almost killed it. Slowly phased out after 1.4 patch
Endfield in 1.X - Factoryslop aka the thing that drags it down currently. Estimate phase out: early 2.X
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>>576098528
Saying this while /end/ jerk off the charts since the beginning. Only now when Endfield is flopping is it "fake."
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>>576098445
Good job bwomimi, I'm proud of you
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>>576098425
everything is for hoarding
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>>576098752
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>>576098752
>2 of each box
huh
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>>576098634
Well look how goos that dis work for zzz LOL
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>>576098752
I'm gonna use up the new years dumpings because I don't need wulinger food in my inventory
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>>576098908
ZZZ is still alive and doing better than Endfield.
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>>576098908
Looking pretty good doe
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>random homeless /vmg/ jeet shitposting in anonymous imageboard
"REMOVE ZE FACTORY SAAR"
>me, a big spender using the official feedback channels
"The factory is the best part of the game, keep at it kings"
Who wins?
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>>576098728
/end/ never did that. nice fanfiction+go back to /vmg/
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>>576098634
the difference is that lowlight doesn't care
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>>576098634
they literally showcased factory stuff for the next region. its not leaving little bro, its here to stay
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>>576099107
Thanks for funding the game for f2pchads, cuckbro
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>>576098634
tv mode was one of only two good things about Zzz
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>>576098728
>Saying this while /end/ jerk off the charts since the beginning
im here since the beginning of /end/ and the first thing /end/ jerks off are Yvonne, Laevatin and Last Rite.
Fun fact.
Last Rite is the reason why I started this game.
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shotahunter rite...
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>>576089763
A game for no one...
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my ballsack is kinda itchy... PERLICA, GET IN HERE AND LOCK THE DOOR
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>>576098634
>ZZZ makes about 35m in 3 days...
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>>576098752
pretty based!
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S E X W I T H C H E N
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>>576099171
>We also hope you'll continue to stay with us and Endfield
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>>576099378
pretty CUTE!
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>get rid of that fucking factory
there's no need to stubbornly cling to that garbage that clashes with the gacha mechanic
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>>576099364
zzz always does well when the big powercreep patch hits
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They need make the BP better
put the tickets to spend double the sanity with the sanity, give more sanity and either mats, gels or tcreds
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>>576099210
Keep screaming at the void, rajeet
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>>576099364
how come they have so many players on iphones?
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>>576099143
Drink up
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>>576099542
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>>576098634
>Anon says, right after a patch that massively increased factory complexity.
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>>576099621
I was being sincere anon. Fact is spending on gacha makes you a cuck. But since it's a gacha I enjoy you deserve my thanks, at least.
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the usual suspects aren't taking ZZZ's success very well huh
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>>576099663
enjoy your cope coke, bro.
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>>576099227
Makes sense, jerking off is the only thing Last Rite is good for after all...
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>>576097574
>why do you think the revenue ranking from two weeks after the update is more relevant than its launch window?
Because peaking in one country on one console for a bit is a meaningless amount of revenue. That's peak Jason Schreier commenting on Veilguard sales
>go woke, top the charts
The same people who tell everyone that mobile numbers mean nothing will pull out PSN numbers for one fleeting moment in time in one country. The game makes more on mobile, that much is certain.

The only reason to fear for the future of Endfield is exactly because it all hinges on one platform (PC), and the game is expensive as fuck to maintain, while Lowlight is basically a frivolous retard who spends more money on marketing, events and influencers than most non-Hoyo games on the whole development of their games.
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>>576099578
Make it like OG AK and let you make pull currency but doing so bricks your progression for a month, in this case it would be the most complex and would need an entire AIC to make
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>>576099640
I don't want to be racist but it's based on skin color...
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>>576099640
Game is extremely easy outside of score chasing endgame plus most people just do events and simply roll for the hot characters cause you can walk around as them and take them on dates.
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>>576099798
>Success
VH patch and than its right back to the gutters
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>>576099578
the factory and perlica are the only reason this game exists
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>>576099798
Sorry sis but the new region + new void hunter honeymoon period comes to a screeching halt next patch and the new leaks do nothing to change that
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>>576099738
>noooooo you're making too much sense my /vg/ shitposting was supposed to remove the factory wahhh
It's here to stay my poorjeet friend, hope you can keep enjoying it.
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>>576099895
>Because peaking in one country
Funny how everyone keeps posting PSN JP but never the other Asian countries.
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>>576099895
>and the game is expensive as fuck to maintain
mihoyo has done irreparable damage to your brain
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>>576099725
They literally just need to put pyrrolite on brown boxes and another mode that gives 500k wuling bills (probably the dinner dash mode) daily and the factory becomes useless
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>>576100178
I never said anything about the factory. You keep chasing them shadows though, champ.
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>>576099854
Don't worry Eve has one just for you
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Factory is staying.
Paid outfits are ON THE WAY.
Hyper limiteds are coming eventually (new Sui's).
More Arknights clones of the big boys are comin (Exu, Skadi, Lappland, SA).
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>>576099923
>VH patch
>its right back to the gutters
the difference is that AKE with the best patch, its remains in the gutters
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If the factory is so good why can't it make Arcane real?
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>>576100350
So you replied to my post only to say you're poor? Did the "homeless" part hit too close home bro?
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>>576100503
>AKE
yep, brown
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>>576100383
show me /end/ salesfagging. go ahead, I'll wait
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The factory sucks since I can't mirror inputs and outputs.
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>>576100802
they'll just quote their own shitposts and say /end/ is doing it, as usual
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I'm getting bored of my Mi-Fu, Chen, Pog, and Ember team. want to play something else temporarily, what other teams do I have on my list that are ok?
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what's the best Laev team if you don't have Camile
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Looking at how Wuwa or ZZZ communities are doing. I very much don't want Endfield to be any more popular. At least in the west.
Expand China or Japan Lowlight, let global stagnate and remain comfy.
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>>576100562
Anon I already told you I was being sincere. Thanks for being a good little pay piggy and funding the game for f2pbros. The game will survive that little bit longer thanks to you.
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>>576100308
HG themselves implied as much and also...it's fucking obvious? Do you not have eyes or something
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>>576100875
Leek, if you dont like her you can switch her with bnuuy. They are both getting an upgrade with Liino in a week
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>>576100887
I really expected worst shitposting for this start of the month, I guess the doomraped are already traumatized from earlier
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>>576100887
so like arknights? its unknown in the west but remains as the no.1 gacha in cn and jp/
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>>576100875
avywenna
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end of servicefield was meant to be a wuwa killer demonstrating the viability of alternate gacha models, but it failed so now the only option left is turning into yet another genshin clone. the transformation has already begun, the fanbase is already full of genshin ex-wives seeking to validate their choice at any cost. all content from now on will be just whatever Genshin did 2 months ago but shinier, just like wuwa.. it's over.
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>>576100913
My loyalpig ass doesn't really need you taking up server bandwidth, at least buy the dollar pack you cheapskate
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>>576101103
>and jp/
???
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>>576101236
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>>576101396
silverash alter banner broke jp. and well most jp ones easily top the charts.
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>>576101236
>wuwa killer
No one in the history of human civilization has cared about wuwa
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>>576101236
>wuwa out of nowhere
anyway, that one was supposed to be the genshin killer but in the end it didn't even kill zzz
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>>576101475
Arknights...very seldomly tops charts in Japan.
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6 months in and we're still a game for no one. Combat or factory, they need to pick a side to invest in
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>>576101685
We need to go full yuri. The new Genshin and ZZZ lesbians are selling millions.
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>>576101640
Very few of the popular games on /vg/ do. The ones that do it often are usually nip games themselves that are more niche worldwide since they don't follow the 3d trend from China. But none of these sales shitposters will ever admit that.
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>>576101823
>ZZZ lesbians
huh?
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>>576101013
this game's dev team is between 1,000 and 1,500 people. HG's devs earn around 75k a year on average. even if you assume that they're operating at what the gacha revenue site implies and all of their revenue is going through online storefronts taking a 30% cut then they're still going to have around $7M left over at the end of the month after paying salaries to cover anything else they need.
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Endfield needs black tier asses to get the white male voter to log back in
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>>576102289
Yep.
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>>576102857
nobody gives a shit about snowshine
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What if Ardashir is the black snake? He seems to be something like clovisia, black snake, ursus grandma, etc.
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>>576102870
she's giga dead
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*stares at your cock and balls*
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>>576104502
>when you nut and go to sleep but she still follows you 10 years later
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>>576104502
We love elves here in /end/
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>>576104502
For the last time nee-san, we really can't do it, we are siblings.
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>>576104502
>those branch like horns
>rune on her forehead
either a banshee or cyclops
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Need more catalysts for artificing...
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>>576089763
>GACHAREVENUE only has data on mobile revenue
>their non CN mobile data is both IOS and Android revenue
>but their CN mobile data is only IOS revenue. They can't get data on CN Android sales since CN Android users don't use Google Play
>estimates of phone ownership demographics in China are about 15-25% IOS users and 75% Android users (with IOS users notably spending a lot more in game)
>Genshin Impact has never stated publicly about what their players play on (Mobile, pc, or console), but people analyze it's 65% mobile, 25% pc, 10% console
>Meanwhile, HG says 70% of Endfield's players are on PC (so other 30% are mobile and consoles)
idk how we can take anything from this site. this image is CN only without their estimation of android, but then from here, you'd have to factor for how many IOS vs Android players a game has (because ignoring the made up "estimation" the site has, that data is not available, and it's possible for a game to have a lot of Android players and no IOS players and vice versa), and then you'd also have to factor how many mobile vs PC vs console players a game has (because again, you might have all PC players and no mobile players).
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>>576105010
bro what
so they just add a fucking good 40mil out of thin air?
lmao yeah that does sound like something only jeets would worship
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post smile-inducing images
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>>576105289
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Hotworks or qinbo for subdps wulfgard on laev team?
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>>576092403
>Massive factory update
You found it
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>>576092403
GET THE FACTORY OUT OF THE MAIN GAME LOOP. I play factory and city builders all the time BUT I DON'T WANT TO PLAY ONE IN AN ACTION GAME.
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>>576105847
hmmmmm nyo.
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>>576105847
you do it for a few hours once an update and then don't touch it for weeks, i really don't know what the fuck peoples problem is with it
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>>576105847
A game for not you.
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>>576105703
I enjoyed it, but I was only able to restart my delivery jobs and rares gathering yesterday because my Endfield time was eaten up by factory upgrading...
I can only imagine how people who DON'T enjoy the factory felt.
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>>576105847
they should include it even more
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>>576105982
Overwhelming burden of thinking, as it were
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>>576105982
thirdies dont like anything that interrupts their gambling dopamine which is why they are constantly monkeybabbling about how gachashits are "generous" or "stingy" (notice how it's always those two words, almost like they don't know any other ones because they are ESL subhumans).
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>>576105982
The problem is when you block gear crafting with ingredients that require high investment into the factory that normies can't be bothered to do. So they quit. Put in alternative places to get gear, like a daily combat event where they can farm gear. Don't force people to play a part of the game they don't like
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>>576092403
i've got multiple friends that play gachas, and of those, the one foid was scared off by the factory, the one guy that played Endfield got bored by the meh story (left during long leek banner), and the others just don't want to add another gacha
at the end of the day, few people can fit more than 2 gachas in their lives, and once you lose them, they're unlikely to come back
factory isn't a big problem - you can just use blueprints - but prospective players may think 'oh no i have to do big brain things to play this game...' and dismiss it immediately
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>>576106346
hmmm...nyo
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>>576089839
>filename
Based
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>>576106068
>Not liking part of the game
>YOU RACE TRAITOR GET OUT OF MY GAME
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What would really save this game? The Insane Clown Posse. Lets get some juggalos up in here.
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What do (you) think they aim to accomplish by corrupting the Endmin?
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>>576106346
>Put in alternative places to get gear
They did. You get free gear with every operator now. If you want better gear, you better start using those braincells for more than just cooming for a minute or two.
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>>576106350
We already know from /end/ that some people struggle to even use blueprints/guides and think even that's too much effort
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>>576106520
Do you also go to the pub and scream why they aren't serving michelin star meals?
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>>576106586
It is too much effort, there needs to be a blueprint that spans the whole region so I don't have to fuck around with pipes and relays and other boring shit like that.
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>>576106525
What year is it again?
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>just enough excess xiranite to make liquid xiranite fueling both a stable 15/m battery line and powering up the brapfarm
This is probably the most fun factory update and lets us shuffle around what we want to make.
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https://x.com/i/status/2082753064520556947

I think Endfield's doing just fine without the "normies". Let the filtering continue
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>>576106525
they don't even know how magnets work. the factory is going to make their heads explode
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>>576106707
Why stop at that?
There should be a single button so the entire game just plays itself. Just press it, and sit back and watch cutscene after cutscene.
It would be a very popular feature among Playstation users.
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>>576106661
>Gee I wonder why our game isn't making enough money to pay for costs?
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>>576106943
>isn't making enough money to pay for costs?
[citation needed]
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>>576106858
>$292 million
Sasuga the biggest and best gacha in the market
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>>576106942
This but IS7. I want those module blocks and upgrade materials but I can't be bothered to play 150+ levels of roguelike when each run takes an hour. Give me a collect al rewards button after one run on A0.
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>>576106943
>Pay costs

lmao vmjeets are something else. you are suggesting that endfield has the same burn rate as something like gta6 or star citizen.
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>>576106919
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>>576105289
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why is there revenue doom posting when arcane is on track to do almost as good as the last two banners combined
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>>576106584
They can do better. Doing a daily farmable that give 2-3 gear pieces like trial of swordmancy gives wuling bucks could keep people on the grind. Building a factory is still better, but at least you don't completely shut people out of the gear grind.
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>>576105259
yeah. basically
>we can use the site to compare non-CN mobile sales... but that's pointless because most games nowadays are on mobile, console, and PC. And a game could have a very large playerbase but only on mobile (and the site would show high revenue), while other games could also have very large playerbases but ONLY on PC (and the site would show NO revenue)
>we could instead use the site to just compare CN mobile sales... but that's also pointless because on top of the previous problem, CN mobile players that use Android do not use Google Play, which is how GACHAREVENUE scraps its data, so all that data is missing too. So a game in the CN region, for mobile, could have a lot of IOS players but no Android players (and the site would show high revenue) and another game could have no IOS players but tons of Android players (and the site would show NO revenue)
This renders the site mostly useless for gauging a gacha game's overall success without huge leaps of estimation and assumptions. We would need concrete data for every gacha game, about percentages of players that play on which platforms, and then sales data of those platforms (which varies across regions, like you see in CN with Android); we don't have that.

The only thing GACHAREVENUE tells us is if 'some' mobile players spend 'some' money on the game (they do). Those figures could be ALL of a game's revenue or a tiny piece of it, we have no idea. Gacha companies obviously will never come forth and share this data for the exact reason of salesjeet shitposting that we all witness here.
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the /vmg/jeets are very insipid and uninspired this month, did they run out of shitposts?
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>>576107453
I need them to give catalysts, not gear pieces. I'm making so many components but nothing to use them on because I can't upgrade shit without catalysts
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>>576106919
That's what makes it so grand - a band of good-hearted fools confused and enamored with the fruits of our research, constantly objecting to mundane physics with befuddlement and incredulity!
>>576106759
2004, of course, just when I'm about to start college and waste the best years of my life.
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>Collapse the first revenue bait post itt
>half the thread disappears
I'm not even convinced those posters are humans with a pulse.
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>Play factory game
>complain about factory gameplay and ask to remove it
what the fuck is wrong with browns?
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>>576107524
that one anon raped and gaped doomkeks too hard, now they have nothing but their made-up estimation chart.
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>>576107743
>make game to get hoyo playerbase
>add factory which filters them
what is wrong with the devs?
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>>576107435
Some people took this as a half-anniversy dealie with a lot of big spending incentives, rather than a big content patch to please the players handing out free oreos alongside single mediocre bundle and a good-but-fundmentally-normal operator.

If this were a month earlier or later, people would think it was pretty decent.
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>>576107740
They robotically show up for their scheduled salesjeeting period pains at the exact same time every month so
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>>576107740
why is she internally ufufufing?
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>>576107804
doomkeks really were stronger back in late 1.2 and 1.3, these days they seem pretty deflated
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>>576107886
>make game to get hoyo playerbase
[citation needed]
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>>576107587
that would be fun to watch
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>>576107937
ToboGOD said it
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He won.
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Help, my sanity juice pots are gonna time out soon. Is it safe to dump a gajillion pots into essences? I still have no clue what ends up being the biggest sanity dump once your characters are built....
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>>576106858
double teaming liino...
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>>576107913
sesbian lex
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This is now your monthly reminder that the primary value of the gacha charts is to estimate whether a game's revenue is improving or falling, and whether it's by "a little" or "a lot". It is NOT a remotely sound basis of comparison between games, nor are the real numbers anywhere close to accurate enough to suggest whether a company is failing or wealthy enough to start doing stock buybacks.
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devs answered that question
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>>576108078
once you have over 3-4 teams built (assuming you purchased the BP + monthly), that would be T-Creds.
But until then, you can use it on w/e need to gear up/level your character
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>>576108078
Yeah, stocking up on essence fodder is always a safe bet
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>>576108078
Do you have already all your weps essenced? Do you have all of your fav characters M12'd? now i'm suffering for lack of Agnes Tachyon stuff for M12ing my Last Rite
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>>576108107
Why would you give a fuck about someone else's revenue in the first place unless your gacha of choice belongs to nexon or squeenix lmao
They ain't shutting shit down
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>>576107896
>Some people took this as a half-anniversy dealie with a lot of big spending incentives
It IS the half anni. If anything, the people expecting a "spending event" are the broken ones. Like, what do you mean you're confused and upset the game isn't siphoning money extra hard from you just because it's the half year mark and other games do that?
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>>576108078
yes. Essences are always safe to spend on, you can hold 2000 of them so go crazy. If you really don't want essences (and you're always going to need them so idk why you wouldn't), just farm T-creds.
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>>576107740
This is discrimination against vampires. Don't make me do another RES+COM roll, I don't want to have to fish out my D10s.
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>>576108107
>the primary value of the gacha charts is to estimate whether a game's revenue is improving or falling
For non-CN mobile revenue only*.
Oh man how useful
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>>576108107
>Stock buybacks

Made me lel because it's the ultimate meme move by companies treading water to do that. I was personally a big fan of companies in the ZIRP days just borrowing money to do stock buybacks. They made >me a fair bit of dosh but what a fucking clown economy we live in.
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>>576108102
lex with snek, slex i'd say
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>>576108202
It really depends a lot on the company's reputation. I think Hoyo has never EoS'd a game ever, and HG is highly invested in Arknights itself, they themselves said Endfield is the game they always wanted to make, plus they aren't publicly traded so there is no "we need to please the shareholders" slop. I'd be more wary playing games from devs that already have killed a bunch of their titles, like Cygames, or companies that make games as a business first and aren't truly passionate about their products, like Tencent.
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>>576108275
gugugaga and her husband.
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>>576108078
Essences are generally a safe bet. You could also do protos if you get tired of that - it's not as bottomless as essences, but you'll need plenty for masteries.
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>>576108537
why is she so small
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Perly's stockings are getting torn and we're still miles away from the closest town! Endmin, please come up with an appropriate solution quickly
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The only spending event around here is me swiping next Sunday for Liino to suck on my brains
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>>576108753
Rip them even more via sex to make it look deliberate
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>>576108204
Eh, I mean, "half anni" is more often understood as a marketing thing, in the same way that "mid-season finale" is. It's not really a THING, except that some companies make a big deal out of it; there's nothing inherently special about not shutting down within six monhts.

HG made half-annies a thing for the OG, but they aren't here, evidently - and a lot of people didn't get that memo.
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>>576108375
It's not a perfectly clean signal, but it would be strange for a game to suddenly soar or fail on a single platform and no others - excepting times when bad programming suddenly introduces game-breaking bugs on that single platform, or they finally get around to optimizing for it after neglecting it for a while.
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Hello my fellow endministrators
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>>576108662
so Endmin can plap her over every piece of furniture in the Dijiang
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>>576108792
how is there one more week left it feels like it's been a month since the patch dropped aaaaAAAAAAAAAA
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>>576108458
>what a fucking clown economy we live in.
Well, it's all about to come crashing down finally. Sucks, but I can't say we didn't earn it...
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>>576109089
hot
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>>576109089
futa endmin using originium to make a clone of herself that she can plap
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>>576109082
hello my fellow shikikansex
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I'm ready to apologize to saintontas
Truth be told we wrong and it was specially schizophrenic we threatened to kill kis dog and dox his mother. I know we are level 10 hypershill but there's limit to all of this and we are now paying for the consequences. Thr gacha community sees hle inorganic out shilling is and hoe David we behave when everyone else points this out this is the result. This is not the time for doubling down, we must now apologize.
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>>576108204
They didnt put any packs to spend on
for example in the OG we have
>oreos and lmd for 10 usd
>10 pulls, a bunch oreo prime, lmd, level mats for 30
>90 oreo prime, 10 pulls, 10 kernel pulls, skin voucher, a lot of mats and lmd for 50 usd
and on the actual half anni patch theres a couple more packs
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>>576108792
I want her to fucking DISINTEGRATE my flow of consciousness, i hope my brain goes fucking POOF
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>>576109079
>It's not a perfectly clean signal
bargaining. It's non-CN mobile revenue only, and even that is an estimate.
>it would be strange for a game to suddenly soar or fail on a single platform and no others
It is not uncommon at all for playerbases to be split between platforms. It depends entirely on the game. And if you were to be fair, you would concede that HG's reported "70% of Endfield players are on PC" remark is true, in which case the gacharevenue chart is incredibly misleading against Endfield. You also need Android data on CN mobile too.
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>>576109468
The fucking SECOND you pull her your brain will turn into mush
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Beautiful Leekwife, egregiously unhealthy amount of big love
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Leekfeet
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>>576109234
GUGUGAGA and her husband are so cute and canon!
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>>576109616
Jokes on her. It's already mush
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>>576109827
imagine the smell
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Ardashir died like a bitch.
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>died
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>>576110008
you're getting 4 more vagueboy monologues just for saying that
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>>576109512
I mean... I SAID that it's nonsensical to use it to compare to other games, or to speculate about the health of a company.

But there's no reason at all to think that ONLY mobile players would be interested in rolling for Wang, and that the "real numbers" would have him losing to Mantra. Frankly, in this context the greater distortions are the fact that it's a monthly report and not a per-patch report, and that there's no way to separate banner revenue out from packs, monthly cards, and OP bonus resets.
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Leek smile
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>>576110008
you just jinxed us, now he will reappear next patch when he was scheduled to revive in 3.0
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>>576110008
No, he was killed BY a bitch. You've gotten your grammar screwed up again.
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>he's not tied to his physical body anymore
>he can now vaguepost and troll you at any time he feels like it
1 million IQ
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>>576110254
I will protect this smile
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>>576110254
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>>576089763
Wait we sold LESS than last month? I don't get it. The story had some great hype moments.
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>>576110251
still bargaining. If it can't tell us anything, what can it tell us? The answer is nothing. You're trying to use randomly collected unreflective data about different varying things for a logical statement about the success of something in the game. Stupidity.
>there's no reason at all to think that ONLY mobile players would be interested in rolling for Wang
No, but why do you even need the chart to conclude that?
>Frankly, in this context the greater distortions are the fact that it's a monthly report and not a per-patch report, and that there's no way to separate banner revenue out from packs, monthly cards, and OP bonus resets.
in any context, really. that just further makes it shit.
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>>576110890
Idk bout you but I didn't sell anything
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>>576110890
Nice try
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>>576111127
You didn't buy out your weekly artificing crystals? Bricked.
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>>576110890
I sold an used baofeng radio this month, that's a lot more than what i sold on june (nothing), what about you?
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>>576111284
Umm that's buying not selling
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>>576110890
Because patch quality and revenue aren't that strongly correlated. Yes, it was a great patch; did HG ask you for more money for your enjoyment? Did they offer you anything new to spend on?

If you already had enough pulls for Arcane (and every active player did)... Well, that's that. Nothing to spend on.
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>>576111392
You gotta sell to outposts to buy the goods
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>>576110890
I was selling something? Can you remind me what was it?
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What gear do you use on int arcane? Is rossi camille gilberta gud?
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>>576111467
I just donate
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>>576110890
no, the guy who made the chart just decreased the number to make it less
the actual revenue should be basically 1:1 because they get their data from sensortower and the free version can't show a 25% increase in revenue if a game makes less than $4,000,000 on an individual store.
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>>576111590
hot work
yeah
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>>576111123
It's really, really simple logic. "IF IOS users spent more money during Wang's event than during Mantra's event, THEN the same is probably true of players on other platforms".

It doesn't tell us that Arknights outperformed ZZZ - there are clear reasons why the platform ratios would differ to the point of misinformation. It doesn't tell us that HG was near bankruptcy during Mantra's event; we don't know anything about the company's burn rates, how other platforms performed, or a bunch of other factors regarding the company's health.

But for the narrow use cases of "Is a game doing better or worse this year than last?" or "Was banner x a flop compared to their usual performance?", yes, the chart is good enough for that purpose. It's a pure apples-to-apples comparison - the same game's IOS players compared to the same game's IOS players.
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Lord Faggot clearly didn't want to die at that moment, he was too distraught.
>It hurt a lot
Erm, nope.
Based Neffy.
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>>576112207
You don't need the made up jeetdollars in the chart for that. A ranking history plot would make much more sense, since it's official data you can track and compare.
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>>576112434
I will kill both her AND him permanently
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>>576112434
I fucking hate this cunt for 'killing' our vagueking.
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Heh, cute. Lowlight got this at a conference.
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>>576112484
Well, you're free to go ahead and do that if you wish.
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Returneefag question, is the play with all the new stuff in 1.4 is to turn what can be turned into gas, into gas like Xiranite and Cuprium?
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>>576113007
Yes. Cuprium gets used for the new material now though. You'll have to tear down your old Hetonite stuff
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>>576113007
might as well
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https://youtu.be/3CuSrkk3rSE
Best song in the game, but it wasn't even used for anything relevant
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Hetonite? But I'm het every night!
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>>576112207
>"IF IOS users spent more money during Wang's event than during Mantra's event, THEN the same is probably true of players on other platforms".
that is a textbook example what's called an "assumption", and it's a massive one at that.
>But for the narrow use cases of "Is a game doing better or worse this year than last?"
>or
>"Was banner x a flop compared to their usual performance?", yes, the chart is good enough for that purpose.
No, it is absolutely not. If the only thing the chart tells you is an estimation of raw non-CN mobile sales, then we can't conclude anything about the performance of the game as a whole when compared to previous years because we do not have data on Android CN mobiles sales or non-mobile sales in general. Because that data objectively fluctuates and can vary for many different reasons, it makes your conclusion completely wrong as a result. As for performances of a banner vs another banner, on top of what was just stated (which also applies to it), there is also what you stated previously; the chart has too much variance between months which supersedes banner rotations. This makes your second conclusion wrong as well.
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>>576111475
>>576089782
>>576089595
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>>576112434
*turns her into a submissive wife*
heh, the fate of every villain woman
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Which is the best harem?
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>>576113254
bro
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>>576113541
Shouldn't Rossi beon Fire if Ember is there?
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>>576113541
you wouldnt survive physical and electric
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>>576113541
Nature has the best variety with the least amount of members
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>>576113541
you forgot da pan for that one guy that 200%ed him
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>>576113541
Electric
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>>576112510
>>576112776
>>576113510
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>>576105384
bump
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>>576114004
Neffy...
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>>576114004
*spit*
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Why did we devolve from medal sets, into one singular medal packed with 3 different achievements? This is the PERFECT opportunity to introduce medal sets, the event even comes with it's own aesthetics and profile frame, that sorta 80's lonetrail artstyle with the yellow red and turquoise
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>>576114339
Imagine this as a full medal set on your profile.
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I got a stupid question, since the flow limit of pipes is 2 fluid pumps worth of fluid per second. Does the fluid mechanics of the game allow me to make a throughput unlimited fluid balancer just so I can keep track of my fluid usage better? I'm just reaching for any actual applicable use for a balancer since they're sexy as hell.
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I don't get how this scars of war mode works. I already beat some of these fights in previous weeks, but when the set of 3 rotated they sometimes show up again uncleared so i'm not seeing 3 completely new fights.
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>>576113334
True, I do not have any sources regarding the in-game sales preferences of IOS users vs Android. But frankly? I'm going to need a plausible hypothesis as to why they would significantly differ on a consistent basis. Assuming they do without any basis for that belief is just insisting that we can't know anything.

Tell me - why would IOS users systematically prefer to spend money chasing Wang, while Android users systematically prefer chasing Mantra? I'm not saying that's impossible, there have been weirder correlations in history (like Italians and Quinine) - but to accept it as a factor that distorts the overall picture, I'm going to need either evidence, or a plausible argument as to why IOS preferences would differ in a given case.
>Yearly changes
So when a game goes from making 5 million on IOS in its first year to 5 thousand on IOS in its sixth, we should just assume... The game is doing fine and nowhere near EOS, because obviously they all just switched to Android? Do you really not see how insane that sounds?
>Banner results
I'm certainly willing to agree that this signal is particularly noisy - for example, it's PROBABLY true that Arknights revenue spikes on annies and half-annies has more to do with the packs and bonus resets than everybody waiting specifically for limited banners, contrary to common belief. But monthly performance related to banners does seem to correlate with the usage of operators in various resources (with the caveat that THOSE signals are even noisier).
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>>576114821
Each pipe can carry max 4 sources of water at the same time
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>>576114929
https://x.com/AKEndfield/status/2076637772694073735/photo/1

The weekly rotations don't necessarily introduce three new stages each week. However you do need to clear/re-clear whatever three are there each week to upkeep the shiny badge on your profile
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>>576115027
*liquid, I should say, instead of water. Water generates at 1/s so you can only carry from two pumps at once, but any other generated liquid like sewage/liquid xiranite stuff only makes 1/2secs which is 0.5 a sec, and since pipes sends liquids at 2/sec max you can have 4 same liquids travelling through the same pipe
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>Sanity event
Time to farm essence fodder
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>>576115485
Nice, just when I'm nearly out
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Hey y'all... Between a Sui event in Arknights, a Sui event in Granblue, a Suisui banner in Wuwa, and a Si event in Endfield... Do any of you get the feeling that Sui is about to break the veil into Earth?
The signs are right!...
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am i bricked if i didnt do echoes of war during first week
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>>576115790
It's over for (you). The council hereby revokes your /end/ loicense
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>>576114967
>True, I do not have any sources regarding the in-game sales preferences of IOS users vs Android
you forgot to mention the volume of IOS vs Android users, and the volume of mobile users vs console and PC players. You need to concede on those points, and those points are very large amounts of data which is what makes your very large assumptions stupid and wrong. what you mean to say is that you can use the chart to make large assumptions on which you can shitpost about (which you can do with fanart count or anything you want btw), not make any sort of objective statement on.
>So when a game goes from making 5 million on IOS in its first year to 5 thousand on IOS in its sixth, we should just assume... The game is doing fine and nowhere near EOS, because obviously they all just switched to Android? Do you really not see how insane that sounds?
this is literally a textbook strawman. I'm not going to argue with you if you continue to be disingenuous.
>I'm certainly willing to agree that this signal is particularly noisy
It's literally what you brought up >>576110251, so I hope so.
>monthly performance related to banners does seem to correlate with the usage of operators in various resources
correlation does not mean causation, and this is in addition to your flawed collection of revenue data (jeetchart).
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>be building factory
>MEOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>576115936
Evilsisterwife...
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>>576115790
We are bricked but it's okay
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>>576115936
Do not fuck your little brother
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>>576114929
Some battles show up again, prove your first clear wasn't a fluke or something I guess
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>>576115936
She's gorgeous, I love her design
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>>576116347
Or if you failed to do the time limit the first time, you can try again to see if you've improved
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>only smiles when Endmin is around
Cute.
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>>576116792
Why is she so ugly...
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>>576116792
She retired from Foundation fuckery now that Endmin reappeared because she doesn't want to oppose him. Neffy's subplot is just her turning herself into our perfect wife
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>>576114929
You only need to get sub 3's for one week of the season. I have my glow badge and shows cycle 2 (last week) on my season page even though I only got two sub 2 clears this week
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Anyone got the image of loli del prologo with her eyes open?
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>>576116879
>Why is she so -ACK!
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>>576117324
Heh
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Just splurging thoughts; I don't think I've seen anyone bring up how/why the Foundation even returned a decade ago to begin with? I'm running under the assumption the game's prologue is essentially a flashback to a decade ago in the North where we're "betrayed" during the 2nd Aggeloi War, and suffered a wound bad enough to cause amnesia.

We presumably defeated and banished the Foundation to the Aetherside along with Talos-V way back during the 1st Aggeloi War, but that's a solid 100+ years ago at this point. How'd they even show up again to cause the 2nd War? Were there still remnants left on Talos-2 in hiding? Visually, you can see when Alleikhreos comes through the rift that his body is covered in the same purple effect that we see when blight eats away at things, which immediately goes away when he grasps that little piece of originium. This is in line with what Nefarith says later on; that despite wielding Aether powers, the irony is that the Foundation still requires protocol originium to survive and return to Talos-2. And despite siding with the Aether, they're not necessarily immune to its effects either.

The little "drip" visual which suspiciously resembles death loli onee-chan's irises seems to be what delivers the little protorig pebble to Alleikhreos, but also our personal protorig always seems to trigger a response to whatever she's doing. She also shows up briefly in the prologue. In my mind, there's a good chance she's the one that "betrays" for the purpose of stealing protocol originium in order to facilitate the return of the Foundation, but also inadvertently injures us badly in the process (but she blames the Terrans for it for whatever reason)
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>>576117371
>death loli onee-chan's irises
post it pleaseee
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If this machine produces two gas, do I need to send both it's outputs ports into a converger for the next machine or can it send 2 gases at once through one single pipe?
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>>576117696
here >>576104502
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>>576118012
A single pipe can fit that much just fine, if it ever clogs it'll be because whatever is after it isn't processing it fast enough to clear all of it.
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>>576115925
>Volume
Volume is completely irrelevant here. If the chart says 500k or 5m, it doesn't matter - neither of those numbers are realistically close to the actual revenue. What matters is the magnitude of change between given dates - if it's a ten percent difference between compared months, or a fifty percent difference. Volume would only matter if we were doing stupid "EOS next month!" memes or "We totally beat suchandsuch this month!" tribalism - both of which we agree is idiotic.

For those magnitude differences NOT to matter, you would need to establish WHY IOS users are behaving in a systematically different manner than users of other platforms, and thus not reflective of the greater community.
>This is literally a textbook strawman.
It's a hyperbolic example, but it's what you're arguing - that even extreme changes in IOS player behavior are not reflective of the spending habits of the larger community. And you know, in some cases that actually could be the case; say a given game decided to really ramp up the performance requirements, causing most people to switch to PC while the IOS version languishes as an unloved stepchild. But I don't believe that's descriptive of MOST games - and certainly not the IOS vs Android divide that is considerably more important for most CN games.
>Correlation does not mean causation
No, but if we were seeing operators widely used whose banners "underperformed", it would serve as evidence that the charts were not correctly reflecting banners performance relative to one another (absent other explanations, like people rolling Wang just to stare at his chest as their assistant, rather than to use). It's true that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but...
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>>576105384
I use Arts intensity, can't remember which
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>>576112434
that’s Pasha Faggot to you
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>>576104502
My cute little big sister can't be this wife material
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>>576112434
so damn ugly…
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>>576117371
Well, we didn't, like, exterminate them in the first war or anything - we "exiled" them, apparently with some protorig life preservers. It's possible they were licking their wounds and recovering; it's possible that they were building an army in secret; it's possible they fucked off to do other things before returning to this "old problem"; it's possible that they've gotten desperate over what Ardashir was talking about; it could be that they see us as becoming weaker or complacent; it's possible the Landbreakers instigated them to action with the promises of an opportunity; or it could be a number of other things.

We don't really have enough evidence to come up with a good hypothesis yet, in my opinion.
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>>576117371
Sadly everything you mention is in vagueposting territory now, until we know more.
I do not have any smart theories about this.
But most likely is that a small amount survived either on Talos or/and the Aetherside as you've said. And they spent the century preparing for any means of a counter-attack.
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>>576118227
Thanks, I wasn't sure if this was like the separator cores where you had to two belt output otherwise it'll clog up
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A game for no one
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>>576119884
a game for me
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>HEAT RAGE! MEGA ARENA! lets you do the first 4 stages on the first day
>okay, now the next opens the day after, so it'll be a 2 day event
>only new stage is stockade enemies
Just let me finish this and clear the quest off Endfield, I don't like leaving open quests on the journal it bothers my autismo.
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Endfield is the only gacha where many said the technical test combat was much better than the official release. This is unique to Endfield. All other big gacha releases have not received this kind of feedback for some reason.
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Will Arcane is fun.
>KAGE BUNSHIN
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>>576121237
What is supposed to be better about this exactly? Just looks slow and boring.
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Sex. With Rossi.
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I spent more money on this game in july ($15) than in june ($5)
With this information, we can extrapolate that Endfield TRIPLED its revenue this month.
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>>576121485
do you think she can use her shadow clone no jitsu in bed?
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i finished my very large paperweight collection
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Call it bias, but my Endfield soundtrack highs are still from 1.2, not 1.4.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGtrGy93fPk&
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF7XQ8vkfuY&
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaQr0eRKtNg&
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kqcqDqP1uo&
I probably just prefer more melodic stuff. The 1.4 tracks that stood out to me were
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3mhuymukN0&
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwiCOYo3AMY&
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgrVtywch8s&
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMiV_pB4wTY&
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxw77XeL_WY&
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BAHExN3bTU&
The crywolf song was obviously incredible, but I don't find myself necessarily wanting to listen to all that often unlike the other song of theirs used for Endfield (DATURA [paroxysm]). It worked best in the cinematic context it was designed for.
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>>576122243
but what will you do when they increase the cap
it'll look ugly as only 90k
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>>576122475
>finally got enough rocks to hard pity
will it be possible to get another 55k between now and the end of si? thighphon looking cute
I usually build a nice stockpile, but everyone here is so cute and my luck is as bad as it can be
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Can someone give me a tinny-tiny spoiler? Do I end up venting spare sewage or does all sewage produced gets used?
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>>576118230
>What matters is the magnitude of change between given dates - if it's a ten percent difference between compared months, or a fifty percent difference
But if you do not have data about most of the revenue and only have a sliver of data, then you can't speak about "magnitude of changes" and as if they were representative of the entire revenue as a whole, which is what you're attempting to say you can do. You are looking at a very small part of the story and then making statements about the entire thing, claiming that because you witness 'a change', you can do so. This is incorrect. For example, a yard has grass. You are shown a portion of the yard, but do not know how much of the yard you are seeing. You notice your portion goes from green to brown. Can we conclude the entire yard is doing worse than it was a year ago? No. We can say, "my portion is doing worse..." but we don't know the health of the entire yard. Is your portion indicative of the rest of the yard? Possibly, but also possibly no. Yards commonly have patches of dying grass. Ultimately, your assumption based on incomplete data is just that; an assumption based on incomplete data.
>It's a hyperbolic example, but it's what you're arguing
That is NOT what I'm arguing, you did strawman me. If you wanted to propose such a scenario to me, you'd just need to ask.
>that even extreme changes in IOS player behavior are not reflective of the spending habits of the larger community
Since you were strawmanning me, this is your claim and not mine.
>if we were seeing operators widely used whose banners "underperformed",
Define "underperformed" and use concrete data to do so.
>it would serve as evidence that the charts were not correctly reflecting banners performance relative to one another
The charts do not provide meaningful data and they tell you so. We do not need a contrived backwards scenario of logic for them to disprove themselves since they are never "proven" to begin with.
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>>576123028
You vent most of it. The only time you really "use" it is looping it back into a second Xircon line for batteries. Pre-1.4 you would've used a bit for producing Heavy Xiranite too, but now with gases, you don't need to.
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>>576123028
depends on what you make, but my current setup uses almost none.
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https://x.com/jiugonge1127/status/2083575406930923773
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https://x.com/AKEndfieldJP/status/2083749640726356404
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wuling very large belts
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I was told AKE also had a Photoshoot event. Any pic you guys want to share?
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>>576123028
I'm using up all my sewage without any water treatment units, 12 to test area, 2 for main batteries. Third battery consumes the sewage it's producing with no overflow.
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>>576123903
Not with you
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>>576124029
Aww, playing hard to get aren't you.
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>>576123923
>not minmaxing sewage
brickyland
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i forgot to raise yvonne and xaihi to level 90 even when i maxed them on other things
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>>576124268
MMD porn doko
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>>576124312
what's goin on in that lung brain of hers...
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>>576124631
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>>576123903
I posted this and haven't been banned yet. got 4 police car reacts though.
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>>576124631
Swords
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>>576123923
What do you do with the Test area's Effluent?
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>>576124972
giving Rossi a kiss!
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I didnt get to clear Howling of Undying Beasts because i didnt play echoes of war during the first week
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>>576125423
This is the /end/ for (you)...
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>>576123035
It's called a sample, dude, and it's widely used across an entire spectrum of industries. Inspections, polls, hell, even ballots - they take a small subset of the whole, examine its behavior, and use it to judge the whole.
Now, IOS users aren't a random sample, unlike plucking random CPUs or potatoes to see if there's a problem with a batch - but a nonrandom sample doesn't necessarily mean its nonrepresentative. It means you need to be cautious about what biases that sample introduces.

So tell me - what bias do IOS players have that would affect their spending habits on Mantra's banner or on Wangs? Are they likely to spend more on skins, perhaps, because they come out so much more crisply on an iPhone's OELD screen? Or maybe women are disproportionately more likely to use iPhones, and thus spend on Wang? Are these factors more likely to outweigh other sources of noise that would affect the entire playerbase (anni packages, ect), or genuine preferences for Wang over Mantra?

You're insisting that IOS players can't properly represent all players, and thus we should assume we know nothing at all rather than acknowledge that there's a margin of error. But bluntly, that's a ridiculous overcorrection. NO industry works that way, so why the fuck should random nobodies?
>Strawmanning
Okay, so you think we SHOULD acknowledge extreme changes on the chart as a something significant? Well, where do you draw the line, then? From swings of 5m to 4m? 5m to 2m? 5m to 1m? At what level of magnitude do we acknowledge that we're seeing real movement, and how does this differ from simply acknowledging margins of error?
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>>576125423
Old records get deleted eventually. You aren't permanently bricked.
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>>576125423
i think it's going to get a rerun in the next season because there's still two stages in the list we haven't gotten yet
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These chinese revenue experts are still arguing about the jeetcharts...
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>>576125834
I just assumed it's a bot responding to itself an hour ago
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https://youtu.be/z-VeBWGzUa4?t=16m19s
I can't afford to pot5
I want to pot5 Liino so much but my incomes and finances don't allow it
This song man
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i enjoy the factory stuff so much I started playing other factory sims. haha this is great
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>>576125834
i'll never bother with it unless they add Consoles and PC there
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>>576125585
nice
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>>576126023
Factory is fun but I wouldn't do it for its own sake. I like that there's a pseudo economy attached to it even if it's a very minimal aspect of the game.
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>>576126018
it entices idolfags really good [spoilers] like me
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>>576125834
Political polling flashbacks... It just annoys me when people blithely insist that because a data source isn't perfect, it should be dismissed out of hand. Only slightly less than when people treat flawed data with multiple caveats as thought it were the infallible word of god.
People just don't know how to deal with uncertainty, I guess.
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oh you can just use boost consumables on EoW
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>>576126253
my actual oshi sang this, both this and arcane ep. this patch has been a roller coaster.
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>>576124159
I physically can't produce more sewage. I choose to brick myself by sacrificing my separator cores/cuprium
>>576125237
I send it back to third battery machine
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BROS /OURGIRL/ GIBBERS IS SO STRONG
https://youtu.be/QoNZtKi0u8E
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>>576126342
damn thats crazy
go outside and have sex loser
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>>576126902
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>>576126839
My mating rights were denied on grounds of my life being a complete trainwreck, sadly.
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>>576126978
>She asks what hand we use
>Context being playing piano
>Quickly search how two lovers play a piano together
>Say left
>Turns out she was just asking about our dominant hand
I did many silly things when I was just starting out, I actually thought Baker would be quite expanded with different dialogue choices and endings.
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>>576127497
stinky
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>>576125501
> doesn't necessarily mean its nonrepresentative
samples should be representative of what they're trying to describe. Your proposition is what's called sampling bias. You're trying to take a biased sample and use it to represent the entire population of players. This is wrong. You need data on all platforms to create a proper sample. Hope this helps your Statistics 101 homework.
>IOS players can't properly represent all players
Correct.
>we should assume we know nothing
We 'know' that some of the CN iOS players spend money on the game. That's our conclusion. We can assume that with our measly CN iOS revenue data. We need more data for more assumptions that are reasonable and explicit.
>Okay, so you think we SHOULD acknowledge extreme changes on the chart as a something significant?
Another strawman. I said I'm not going to keep arguing with you if you're just going to fire off strawmans at me. You conceded that the website gives not enough concrete data, and you also conceded that it cannot be used for a game's overall performance against other games, as well as the fact that it isn't good for banner performance either. Despite these points, you refuse to admit that it shouldn't be used for banner performance ("underperformed") or game performance against itself, and you do so without giving any arguments whatsoever for this besides continuing to adhere to a single small sample of data, which isn't even from HG themselves mind you. You also have not responded to my arguments at all, while I continue to refute yours.

The jeetchart is not reflective of anything meaningful, and your assumption is wrong and based on incomplete data and classic sampling bias. At most, the chart is just shitpost material, and it speaks very little beyond that.
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>>576126978
she wants to deepfreeze your body after you die so she'll never be alone again
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>>576128176
weirdo
>>576128020
stinky
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My one true wife
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>we approximate revenue numbers out of the thin air!
>HMMM YES LETS SPEND MULTIPLE THREADS DISCUSSING THOSE OBVIOUSLY REAL AND TOTALLY NOT FAKE REVENUE CHARTS
SLIT YOUR FUCKING WRISTS
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>>576128831
Your wife is a leek
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>>576129078
Tastes good
Smells good
Is good for me
Big love
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>>576127674
>You also have not responded to my arguments at all
You have REPEATEDLY ignored my questions and dodged points where I've raised issues of common sense. I think it's quite rich that you take issue with me not bothering to respond to you exhaustively, rather than restrain myself to responses I can write in less than five minutes.
>Sample bias
You ignored the fact - which I raised with a reasonable level of detail - that "biased samples" and "worthless samples" are not, in fact, synonyms. IOS players are a significant portion of the market, demographically diverse, and show similar levels of interest in the game compared to other platforms. For the bias towards IOS to be relevant, you have to establish why and how the spending habits of IOS players would differ significantly from that of Android players. Moreso, you would have to establish why this is true specifically in China when no similar effect is observed in other markets where we do have access to data for both. You have not even attempted to do so at any point.
>Strawmanning
Okay, so what ARE you arguing, then? You say that it's a strawman of your position when I state that a 90% drop-off in IOS spending means that a game is probably EOSing, and that you're arguing otherwise. As far as I can tell, though, your argument is that we should ignore the implications of CN IOS data completely because we don't have access to other platforms revenue. So in what way is that a misrepresentation?
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Is there a more sunk cost fallacy game than Endfield currently?
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>>576116792
still can't get over how insanely erotic that face she made there was
god, I need to breed her endlessly
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>>576129341
Snowbreak.
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>>576129341
o.g arknights
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>>576129341
Genshin
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>>576129303
THE REVENUE CHART IS FAKE YOU COLOSSAL RETARD
THEY ADMIT TO IT
HOW STUPID CAN YOU GET
IS CHATGPT WRITING YOUR POSTS SINCE I DOUBT YOU CAN WRITE SOMETHING LONGER THAN ONE SENTENCE NORMALLY
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>>576129435
MLtards are dead after all their games died off, couldn't have happened to a more deserving group of people
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These bots/A.I. have gotten good at coming off convincingly as deranged terminally online anonymous NEETs having arguments with themselves
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hey look a bot is calling other people bots
I'm a bot too btw
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>>576129646
You know, that's the nice thing about this site. On Facebook, just THINKING about how this kind of argument looks to others would have me biting my tongue at best, and deleting my account at worst. Here? Tomorrow, I can pretend I was nowhere near this inane slapfight.
...Well, people will still know, sure, but I can pretend they don't.
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What gives? Why is it no giving me the chinese green goop.
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>>576130205
Forges are probably a smidge outside the gas zone. They have to be fully in it
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now that the dust has settled
how can we mourn endfield
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>>576130270
oh im retarded thanks, i automatically assumed its like those power poles
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>>576129303
I will not respond to your shitty strawmans. I've told you and warned you about that. If you are upset about that, then argue in good faith next time. You receive the treatment you give. Objectively however, I could go through our argument and count out the times where I responded to your arguments and you to mine, and I would easily come out on top.
>You ignored the fact
I ignored nothing. You proposed and defended sampling bias, a noob mistake.
>IOS players are a significant portion of the market
>demographically diverse
>and show similar levels of interest in the game compared to other platforms
Proof of any of these claims?
>you have to establish why and how the spending habits of IOS players would differ significantly from that of Android players
No, YOU would have to establish the opposite, since you are making that claim.
>Okay, so what ARE you arguing, then?
Read my post >>576127674 What does the bottom line say? Read it out loud.
>You say that it's a strawman of your position when I state that...
Yes, it is a strawman when you make up arguments for me, and then attack them instead of the things I have said, which you have done repeatedly now and have done so again.
>your argument is that we should...
Read my post one more time. >>576127674 What does the bottom line say? Read it out loud.

Hope this discussion helped.
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doomkeks getting raped again? but it's revenue chart day....
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>>576130736
giwtwm
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>>576131107
we rape&gape doomkeks for fun around here.
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pumping Okugi full of my HOPE
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I love Sunday in sealand
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MAN, I LOVE VEEJEE, I LOVE TALKING ABOUT AI SALES CHARTS, I LOVE TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING BUT ENDFIELD, I LOVE IT SO MUCH
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>>576131418
It's also Saturday evening in burgerland at the moment. The funny part is they both coincide with worst behaviours
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>>576130932
So, yes, you ARE saying that if the chart says that a game made 5m on CN IOS in year one, and 5k on CN IOS in year 6, we should ignore the chart and assume everything is fine because "the jeetchart is not reflective of anything meaningful".

You can just say that instead of whining about strawmen, you know. It's not exactly a radical stance in these parts, and it saves a lot of typing compared to dancing in circles.
>Who ignored more
Character limits prevent me from listing, but by my count, you've ignored more points than I. More importantly, you've ignored points related to the core of the dispute while I've not bothered with random tertiary demands.
>Proof of claims
...Sorry, are you really asking whether people spending on the game are interested in it, and whether there are significant numbers of people using iPhones? This is why I don't bother with exhaustive replies. You demand proof about things that are simply... Silly. It's not worth the time to fish up a link.
It's also meaningless when we're talking about hundreds of different games, frankly. Providing evidence for one does nothing for any of the others, so there's no reason NOT to skip to the step where we stop pretending that iPhones are some secret niche platform only used by mystical hermits or something.
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Erm, where am I supposed to use Expanded Crucibles? Can't I just do everything on regular crucibles for throughput purposes?
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>>576132380
Yes
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>>576132380
Expanded crucibles are useful if you want to do two-step processing in less space. Most common example is turning Xiranite into Liquid Xiranite into Effluent; by doing both steps in a single crucible, you save slightly more space than doing them in separate crucibles. Though mind you, it does these steps sequentially NOT simultaneously, so it's less helpful than it might originally sound.
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>>576132380
battery production, you use one less facility if you use the expanded crucible. hetonite also had expanded crucible useage but everything's done in gas after the update
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Imagine if Si looked upon aunt Ling as a role model....
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>>576133124
I dunno, girl seems pretty stressed. Becoming a gulper of cups could prevent her from becoming a sorrowful drunk...
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>they are still going
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Si is IS backwards
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>>576133390
I will bicker until forcibly medicated. This is about a little thing called INTEGRITY.
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>>576133390
I love this gator so much, I need to roll for her already. She's too prefect.
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>>576131941
>you ARE saying that if the chart says that a game made 5m on CN IOS in year one, and 5k on CN IOS in year 6, we should ignore the chart and assume everything is fine
We can conclude that CN IOS sales have decreased. We cannot conclude that overall sales have decreased. You can begin to form an hypothesis on the overall sales, but all you have is an assumption until you look at the other data, which we do not have.
>but by my count
make sure to exclude your shitty strawmans.
>I've not bothered with random tertiary demands.
aka, you've intentionally ignored my arguments and resorted to fallacies because you had no way to refute them, I know.
>"Proof of claims?"
>... Sorry. [...] You demand proof about things that are simply... Silly
So when asked for your sources about your claims, that's "silly"? God forbid you have to argue honestly and with integrity and logic instead of a revenue shitposting chart.
>This is why I don't bother with exhaustive replies
Then do everyone a favor here, including yourself (and your parents), and stop replying and leave the thread. and please take your diarrhea revenue chart with you, I'm tired of seeing it.
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Liino stash status?
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>>576133804
Right here
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>>576133804
I've got the designated 10 pull
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>>576133804
Enough
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>>576130420
At least you found out now, I made an entire setup to run eight forges around one disperser before realizing none of them worked.
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>Tired already? The old you was never this... delicate
obviously they had tons of pelvis-breaking sex in the past
no wonder she is so mad she has been completely forgotten now
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>>576133390
what an ugly specimen…
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>>576133804
I have just under 120k beryls. I’ll only roll Liino if Typhon is revealed as free in the 1.5 devstream, since I definitely want Si and Typhon.
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>>576134167
Alright seriously, who greenlit a DJALL to be an idol? That should've been red flags up and down all around the wazoo
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>>576134060
You sure seem to be pretty obsessed with her "ugliness", anon...
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>>576134281
She's a weapon of mass errection.
The perfect agent for repopulating a planet.
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i want nefarith's feet on my face
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>an ancient evil awakens
fucking really now, what the fuck is this story
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>>576133630
>Hypothetical
When we look at regions where we have data for both IOS and Android (in other words, most places outside of Chin), we see sales correlate fairly well with one another over a given period; as one rises, the other does, and as one falls, the other does as well. It seems silly to me to pretend that we don't know this simply because we don't have perfect numbers, but it isn't my place to judge your personal beliefs.
>So when asked for your sources about your claims, that's "silly"?
When asked to prove that a meaningful number of people play on the second largest mobile phone on the market, and that the vast majority of people spending on a game are interested in the game? Yes. You might as well ask me to prove that most players have two hands.
>Stop replying
You DO understand that YOU are the one who first replied to ME, yes? And that my original comment was how about it was stupid to try to use the chart to prove that any game was "winning" or that any of the big names are about to go bankrupt? I never once asked you to reply, and frankly don't understand what you're getting out of this.
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>>576133804
>50K primogems and 50 rolls from the quota exchange shop
Nah im good, im saving for Si and Typhon
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>>576133804
...20k will be enough, right?...
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>>576134602
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How do you play Mifu? Can Mifu work as a SubDPS when she gets powercrept or replaced by another MainDPS?
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>>576133518
Si Garden of Grotesqueries...
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>>576135072
I only use her as a sub dps in a Rossi team, other two slots are Pog and Camille
As a main dps you should just use Endmin's teammates aka Chen, Lifeng, and Pog
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>>576134602
This but Yvonne
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>>576134602
this but also my face on her thighs
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is this game fun
idk
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>>576135072
She is already sub dps on Rossi teams
>Camille skill
>Rossi skill
>Rossi combo
>Camille and Mifu proc
>Camille gives sp and nuke with Mifu or use Pog breach if fighting a boss, then next cycle nuke with Rossi ult and Mifu Skill
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>>576133804
enough to get her
but i can't afford to pot 5 even though i really would like to if i had the means for it
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>>576135290
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nyabe
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>>576135226
>>576135293
I use her as a mainDPS since I missed out on Rossi but I'm happy she can work perfectly fine as a subDPS. I was using her today and thought "Her enemy pull skill is super useful and her combo skill hits like a truck while being super SP efficient. She looks like she could work just fine as a sub"
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>>576135293
Also Arcane instead of Pog also works but the lack of SP is kinda shit but when her Ult arrives then you have 3 nukes
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>>576135072
>How do you play Mifu?
Either with Rossi+Camille as sub in the Rossi burst rotation or as main deeps crusher with Pog+Chen+ Ember/Lifeng
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>>576117371
We know that the territory beyond the Aurora is outside of Terrans' reach so some of them could've survived there. 2nd Aggeloi War was basically an expedition to finish the job and reclaim north pole.
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What's this brat gunna do to Endmin to cleanse his face of Aether?
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>>576135464
that thigh gap is too sexy
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Sandbox area to experiment with factory builds when?
I just want to build it there and save it as a blueprint then use it building my outposts.
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uggorith is so damn ugly!
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>>576135589
MR KIM GET DOWN
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>>576135639
I see people using Ardelia instead of Ember/Lifeng, and the guides I see online also recommend her. Why is that? My sheep is P4 so I like to believe she's pretty strong
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>>576135720
she will drain the Aether from the Endmin
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>>576135072
I use Mifu, Estella, Alesh then Chen because it gives me a nice loop with Estella comboing with Alesh and Chen combo with Mifu building stacks instantly.
I tried Pog he's fun but since he doesn't do much damage himself with no good gear available yet his breach doesn't really outweigh Chen utility for me under a short time window.
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>>576135943
Sheep debuff shred defense, she and lifeng are similar for it
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>>576135464
I love how the tips of her ears bounce while she moves, very cute.
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>>576135853
With all the gas stuff going on I have marker stone completely empty and using valley to jump my excess junk
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I keep every BP sanity food gift. They're all personal gifts and I don't want to eat them
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>>576135943
sheep is pretty strong because she's versatile, but she's best in teams where the damage window is longer instead of bursting or hybrid teams since she shreds both phys and arts
and she sustains
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>>576134620
Arknightsverse story is literally about people fleeing from le ancient civilization-destroying ebil and trying to come up with methods to evade/destroy/survive/escape it
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>>576136041
I never turn down good food a gift is meant to be eaten
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>>576135720
Mana transfer, Fate style
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>>576135943
Dolly Rush
SP Cost: 100
Hops on Mr. Dolly and rams the target to deal Nature DMG. If the target has Corrosion, then consume the Corrosion and apply Physical Susceptibility and Arts Susceptibility to the target.

Dolly Paradise
Potential 1
Battle skill Dolly Rush improved: Consuming Corrosion now applies Physical Susceptibility and Arts Susceptibility with effects +8%.
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Why would you ever use Ardelia when Arcane is better than her in every possible scenario?
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>>576136070
>thing is bad
>but what about this other thing that also is bad
Why are you like this
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>>576136167
arcane doesn't heal
and she doesn't buff damage in any meaningful capacity
entirely different roles
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>>576136041
I eat them so I can compliment their tastes and share the meal over the operator get stronger by clearing resources stages or alluviums with the sanity
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>>576135996
Lust provoking image is making me lose focus on whatever you're trying to say but I appreciate the advice
>>576136057
Mifu's team is probably my favorite outside of Yvonne so I might invest in whatever 4th slot they decide to throw for her mainDPS team. I also appreciate the fact that she doesn't need Arcane because I really don't like her looks.
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>>576136195
>she doesn't buff damage
She forcefully applies corrosion which is buffing damage in both phys and arts teams
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>>576136252
Yep that's why what I said makes no sense.

I meant Chen beats Pog's debuff in a 1 minute time scenario. I take Pog if it's a longer damage window.
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She's a big Leek
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I'm downloading the game again to try it out after I quit in 1.2 for no specific reason. Is Laevatain still usable? Should I pull for Arcane? I don't even remember if you need 2 teams for anything in this game.
Also, did they add any cool mechanics for the factory building? I remember everyone complained about water, but I really liked it
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>>576136508
All content is clearable by any team
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>>576136337
that's on the DPS kit innit? I don't think the dps kit is good for support, even if it is capable of doing so

I forgot she has a little susc on her will kit, but it's rather small, and not universal

the original point is that they don't replace each other
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>>576136508
Laevatain is still very usable, even more so with Camille if you somehow get him from Arcane's banner.
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>>576136034
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>>576136508
Laaevatin is still useable
Arcane is good for Laevatain and in general
there's gas now for the factory and it's fucky
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>>576136498
For Yu
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>>576136508
Laevatain is stronger than ever if you have Camille but Arcane is good with her too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPs_mbgJTf8

Gas is the new factory thing it basically makes everything more efficient it's pretty good.
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>>576136498
Big Love for Big Wife
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>>576135259
pink toes...
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>>576136379
Mifu's team is clearly incomplete, there's still plenty of room for improvement since all of her best teammates are freebies or basic 6*. I think Chen will be replaced last since she's one of the faces of the game, the same way Perlica gets preferential treatment in Fangyi's team
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>>576136508
>Is Laevatain still usable?
Yes. I’ve mainly been using Laev/Camille/Will Arcane for infliction stacks/Ardelia.
>Should I pull for Arcane?
Yes. In both forms she has increased corrosion duration and effectiveness. She’s a great DPS in INT form who can also force apply corrosion. In WILL form she can copy inflictions like Antal, but in a decently sized AoE and on combo+ultimate.
>Also, did they add any cool mechanics for the factory building?
braps
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>>576137003
Liino is benching Perlica
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>>576134724
>we see sales correlate fairly well with one another over a given period; as one rises, the other does, and as one falls, the other does as well
I just checked your jeetchart, we actually do not. See Arknights, FGO, Wuwa, Genshin, and even Endfield. There are quite a bit of varying numbers on these charts between regions, even when events correlate in-game.
>It seems silly to me to pretend that we don't know this...
I'm not willing to pretend I believe your stupid claims without evidence, no.
>You might as well ask me to prove that most players have two hands.
Ridiculous you think asking for basic proof of your hand-waiving claims (which just so happen to support your argument) is equivalent to demand something unreasonable. If your arguments rely on unreasonable proof that you cannot provide, then you're the silly one.
>You DO understand that YOU are the one who first replied to ME, yes?
entirely irrelevant who started the reply chain, what matters is you insist on defending the salesjeets with no supported arguments.
>And that my original comment was how about it was stupid to try to use the chart to prove that any game was "winning" or that any of the big names are about to go bankrupt?
and then you went into defending it for lesser equivalents anyway, such as shitting on a game's performance one year over the other, or shitting on one banner over the other (which I don't understand because you've already conceded that was not credible with banners). AKA, you want to use it for shitposting (you can) but also feel like your shitposts have merit (they don't)
>I never once asked you to reply
4chan is public. anyone is free to see your posts and respond to them. nobody needs your permission to refute and dismiss your terrible opinions, even if that hurts your ego.
>and frankly don't understand what you're getting out of this
I enjoy beating salesjeets and their defenders in logical arguments that dare to reply to me. It's fun, I'm havin a good time.
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>>576137003
That's why the Rossi combo is BIS but I don't have Rossi she basically applies the stacks even faster.
If we got someone that enhanced crush or did Pog's job but with more damage then they are powercrept.
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>>576136949
Praying for Yvonne to get the first summer skin in the game. Hypergryph puts a ton of effort on their character models, if they give her custom made feet I will actually spend...
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>>576137145
Same with Fangyi, her default outfit is garbage.
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>>576137087
Unless you can cycle Liino's ult in the same time it takes Perlica's combo to come off cooldown, that won't be the case
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>>576137145
Cheerleader outfits for Mi Fu and Yvonne
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Nefarith wedding dress skin...
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>>576137281
maido neffy
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>>576137230
>t. trash taste
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>>576137230
Nah, pantswife big love
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>>576137259
Yvonne is your subordinate. She's not an affiliate like the other characters, she works for Endfield Industries as your full-time employee. She deserves a paid summer break...
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>>576137501
correction ASAP
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>>576137501
>>576136858
>>576136131
>>576135720
>>576135253
why did they make her so fucking sexy
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>>576137542
You just have extremely low standards
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>>576137709
hi Tobo
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>>576137709
faggot
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>>576137542
I'm not an expert on gacha development, but I think its reasonable to assume that the more attractive character is, the more popular she is. Human beings like beautiful things, crazy you know.
>>576137709
You are a massive faggot
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>friend walks in
>scroll up to hide Yvonne's ass
>Miffer milkers
>Yvonne toes
>Miffer milkers
>Hag jugs
>brat feet
>Ardelia having a powerful orgasm
>lands on Neffy's detailed soles
>friend calls me weird and leaves
th-thanks endbros...
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>>576137723
>>576137730
You dumb niggers don't even have balls to like actual lolis so you sperg out at the sight of the first smaller than average character coping that she's one. Stupid fucking nigger tourists.
>>576137802
I recommend suicide.
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>>576137848
>smaller than average
She's the same size as perlica and chen, retard, 160cm
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Hi, i like this pink Djall so much bros
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>>576137848
Nobody brought up lolis.You just did.
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>>576137802
We love backs in this franchise
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>>576137906
Ah yes I truly love 160cm mesugakis. Thanks for proving my point RETARD.
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We love Rossi here
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>>576137838
now that's what I call a great thread
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>>576137838
happy to help!
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>>576137920
Yeah? Post all Nymphs then
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>>576137838
yw
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>>576138004
Last Rite's big butt!!!
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>>576137974
are you drunk or on drugs?
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>>576137848
Homoschizo...
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>>576137920
>OG Ark get a cute pink girl
>We get a generic blonde slut
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>>576137838
i won't say sorry if the friend is a girl, if its a guy, your welcome
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>>576137974
whats that in feet
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>>576137848
what about lolis? I just like women, unlike you
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>>576138131
needs a sexually enticing image of Rossi next to him
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blue
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Blue woman...
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>>576138212
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>>576138356
You wouldn't a poor innocent defenceless extremely sexy breedable jailbait blue devil girl
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>>576138356
>more fun to plan than Yvonne now that Arcane exists
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AIEEEEEEEEEEE
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>friend walks in
>gets on the floor
Everybody walks the dinosaur
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>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Lpm3R2od-8U
>Other players' operators treat you differently when you visit their Dijiang
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>>576138879
I hope other player Si is really bratty to me
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>>576138581
God we need operators in full body stocking
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>>576137118
Well, I'm looking at rankings right here on their site, 90 day category rankings for both the IOS and Android versions of Arknights. The rankings are much choppier on IOS (I assume for technical differences between how they're collected), but when smoothed out they decline at roughly the same pace between June 1st and 20th, and rise at the same point on the 22nd (before going completely blank for two weeks, because fuck free users I guess), remaining at similar points at each step they have data for.
So I dunno - maybe you're looking at a fake source or something, or maybe you're confusing choppiness for actual movement or something. But what you're seeing doesn't match what I'm looking at.
>Ridiculous you think asking for basic proof of your hand-waiving claims (which just so happen to support your argument) is equivalent to demand something unreasonable.
Fine, according to CNBC, 250m iPhones were shipped in 2025, a 6% increase over last year, and there was a strong upswing in sales to China. Yes, IOS is popular, and is widely used in China as well. No, I'm not going to find you a better source than this because it is common knowledge that iPhones are widely used.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/03/iphone-17-will-drive-record-apple-shipments-in-2025-idc.html
>Whinewhinewhine
Dude. You can stop talking to me at any point if you dislike doing so, as you have indicated you dislike doing. It's WEIRD to demand the other person stop talking when you're the one who started the conversation.
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>>576138879
that ちょっと damaged me
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are they just generating these replies as a joke? no way anyone actually cares that much about that shit
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>>576133804
ALL IN
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>>576138879
>他のキャラはいいけどロッシに拒絶されるのは堪える
>''The other characters are fine, but being rejected by Rossi is hard to bear.''
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>>576133804
I'll get her but not her weapon. At least not for now - maybe I'll grab her weapon if horsedude is next
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What element is Typhon going to be? And her team? Any oracles with precognition in the thread?
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>open thread
>block of text salesjeet is STILL at it
Wow, it really is a bot replying to itself. How do we kill it?
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>>576139173
Israel did this.
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>>576139432
make captchas harder and remove the skip from pass
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>>576138879
>>576139280
ロッシちゃんに拒絶される
そそるぜこれは唆るぜこれは
>''Rossi rejects me. This is exciting, this is tempting''
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>>576139050
>look at my salesjeet chart!
>the salesjeet chart says...
Can you just fuck off already?
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>>576139431
Semen element
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>>576139431
Phys striker for shatter team
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https://x.com/kaz862/status/2083783668003459482
>endfield is 2nd place in the REAL numbers rank
not bad
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>>576140416
Perlica and Yvonne basically hard-carry the porn
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>>576140416
>2nd, 3rd AND 4th
holy fuark
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>>576139431
Should be aether if they keep the collapsal juice covered arrows, but it will probably be cryo
Now this should mean she will be another class since Caster is taken and we have 2 ice strikers already
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>>576140416
ohonononono doomkeks???
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>>576133804
Saving for the tsun proxy
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>>576140416
>We got 2nd place in the weekly ranking for Melonbooks' doujin Arknights feature! Thank you so much
p'based...
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>>576140416
Instead of paying westcuck e-celebs HG should subsidize porn production
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I'm a Typhonschizo, so I wanted to ask: do most of you like Typhon Reconvener's design? I've been expressing my dissatisfaction with it for a while, but I'm curious to hear your opinions.
Also, which version of Typhon's lower body in the image looks more natural?
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>>576142515
just fap to it, Typhonbro.
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>>576142583
This is a woman (probably)
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>>576140416
>>576140501
It's the weekly ranking for the arknights:endfield tag you retards. Obviously endfield is going to show up in it. If anything it's sad that the first spot was lost to a mixed blue archive/endfield doujin.
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Why couldn't they add new characters into the standard pull like nikke? Wanting to make a heat team with no laev sucks
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https://x.com/senyu_senyu/status/2083113177924116703?s=20
To our stage is the better Liino song
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Is there a way to do priority output for fluids or do I just have to manifold it?
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>>576142672
here's the link to the ranking by the way
https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/tags/index.php?tag=%E5%90%8C%E4%BA%BA%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AF%E3%83%8A%E3%82%A4%E3%83%84%E7%89%B9%E9%9B%86#a_00
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>>576142515
The answer is whatever pisses you off the most.
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>>576142908
It's not like that would help you getting a SPECIFIC character anyway. But yeah, the reason why this entire concept was established was character frequency and effort they had to put into.
Thank Genshit.
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>>576142583
The saviour of Talos II...
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>>576143765
So, would it be fair to say that most players are satisfied with it? Thank you.
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>>576142583
Femdmin design is so fucking rapeable
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>>576144683
My nigga wants a sex dungeon.
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>>576142515
I geniunely don't see the difference
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>>576143887
Nikke lets you preselect x amount of SSRs that will show up, sort of like arknight's current banner but with a larger roster to narrow down who you would get. In endfield terms it could be selecting two 6 stars of each element (fire, cryo, electric, nature, phys) that will be part of your standard banner. This way if I want to build a fire team I could single out laev/camille without getting Ember, for example
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>>576145195
In Nikke you also need A LOT of characters for different contents. For example Solo Raid, where you need 5 teams, and it's not like you can just build 25 characters and be done with it either because element advantage is a thing. Also different teams for different manufacturer towers. Also PVP teams.
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>>576145794
And? We could still increase our standard banner roster while introducing a targeted headhunting system
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It's a Chinese 3D gacha. As such it copies how Genshin works, it's the law or something. So it's all limited banners and a useless standard pool.
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>>576145953
No one is doing that in a 3d gacha that gets one character every 3 weeks, just forget about it
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>>576146110
Hey our standard operators aren't useless:
Ember is a great tank and clutch healer
Last Rite is still a very good DPS
Pog is a great physical and breach supporter
Lifeng
Ardelia is a good healer and corrosion debuffer
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>>576146504
Everybody playing since launch and rolling on idk 4 banners at least has all of them. They're useless as in they're dead rolls except for the 10x weapon pull you get from it.
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>>576146729
>Everybody playing since launch and rolling on idk 4 banners at least has all of them
a-ack
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>>576147286
She's so cool...
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>>576145794
That's a good thing.
Also, it's a non-issue in nikke with how much rolls they give you. The gacha is complete placebo there. Nikke in general isn't really comparable to the rest of the gachas which are purely monetised through gambling and fomo.
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How many SC batteries and Jincao Tea should I aim for per minute?
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>>576147286
It was worth using your selector for an Ember dupe over getting Lifeng. A pity you ended up with Last Rite instead of him, though, she really is quite useless compared to him...
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>>576148004
I already used my selector for Pog cuz back then I didn't have him
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FAT combustions are fun.
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>>576147439
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>>576144683
Then Endmin proceeded to reconfigure his factory for five hours while Fangyi slept undistiturbed.
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>>576148004
Adelheid is probably one of the best burst dps in the game other than Leek and Perlica.

Lifeng is only for Pog reacharounds
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They could have put more Anasa lore on the final scene of the Lifeng quest and add a small animation of CHADllon..
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>>576149553
Adelheid is a spineless weakling who lets everyone push her around so that she can desperately cling to the sponsorship of those scammers Witching Hour. It's utterly embarrassing, and Endfield Industries would be better off if we cut off the dead weight she represents.
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Does Hongshan have an equivalent of Lungmen?
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>>576149660
Idk who Chadlon is but I expected a cool confrontation with his mothers ghost then her tear drops to the ground as she dissapears hugging him as she lets him win.
Either that or she was still alive out there on the planet not knowing he was alive and he could find her again.

Instead we got a cheap emotional dig with no impact.
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chen is so dumb haha
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Made possible with Ses'qa's latest technology!
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>>576134602
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>>576149851
All that and she is still stronger than any male character in this game.
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WHEN IS THE NEXT SURVEY?
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>>576149910
>idk who Chadlon is
WRATHFUL
CELURIAN
FLAME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JXmZW69_ts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=106Q8BJmMJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT3gOfHtZpc
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Which duo are you supposed to use with the ones that apply arts infliction?
the game gives you laev and wulf, but they kinda suck together
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>>576149912
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>>576149910
The Fourth King of Sarkaz that got stabbed and betrayed (thrice) and was seething so hard he killed everyone who betrayed him and then killed himself. Arknights buddhists and japanese are his offsprings.
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>>576150040
Holy fucking cringe. All are OGakfags like you?
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>>576150019
Like, three-ish weeks or so. It'll come after Liino's banner has run for a bit, and they've released the last of the patch's content.
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>>576150182
Arknights is full of edge-cringe
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>>576150063
Fangyi/Perlica, obviously.
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we LOVE edge here
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>>576149851
I think we should move her to the pizza & film department
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>>576150063
what do you mean they suck? you get 3 stacks for laevatain from 1 wulf skill if his combo is up
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>>576150063
Should be really good with DPS Arcane +T2

DPS Arcane needs two stacks for her combo, which T2 gets, so every CD cooldown of the two you just hit T2 skill -> both combos-> Arcane skill. Ult instead of T2 skill when she has combo, ult with Arcane whenever.



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