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Looking for advice from people with experience making AI music.I have high quality versions of the original game's soundtrack rendered on the Roland SC-55mk2. I want to create new original tracks that are trained on the original soundtrack so I can keep the music as authentic as possible.I really don't know what platform/service would be best for this effort. Suno? Gemini? Something else? Ideally I'd upload the original 12 songs and tell it "make me a fast beat hard rock song using the music I uploaded as reference".
Top AI tips for game devCodex/Claude - agentic AI for coding, snailcats blown away by frontier models coding far faster than any humanKrea 2 - local img gen, train your own custom loras for unique art stylesMiniMax - Local Video, great for cutscenes and also does audioVoice acting - not many great local options, elevenlabs is your best, it's amazing but pricy
>>576331664yeah just use Suno
>>576331664suno, have to pay big eight bucks to get access to the sliders so you can adjust the "influence" of your upload (25% is default)it's extremely addicting and fun to have it transform your own music
>>576331421Might have to extract the whole world space for doom 3 just to analyse it design and allow me to build a template for modelling world geography.Don't know if I should do lost missions or strictly stick to OG.Lost missions are just recycling of existing space in clever ways.Bare minimum can get hallways, doors, crawl space, rooms and general idea for a standardized modules.
>>576331684>Voice acting - not many great local options, elevenlabs is your best, it's amazing but pricyDamn this is actually not that bad
>>576331592Progress:My game's MC did 8 push ups after a month without doing a single one
>>576331972You have to pay to have commercial use of the music produced anyway, and even then they don't grant exclusive use to you.
>>576332018Do quake 4 and prey 2006 aswell
its the constant ridicule i cant stand
>>576332143ridicule? its sounding based as fuck
>>576332107Then be sneakySuno plagiarizes all the music on earth for it's inspiration, and then I plagiarize Suno for my own inspiration, I don't need to use the actual sound file it pops out
>got bored>created mod loader instead of doing content>mod loader has taken over the entire projects direction>now everything is created through the modding screen>still no new content but content can be made faster and easierIt'll be worth it in the end. Maybe
>>576331421So tired been up for 32 hours and have to work my night job in 2 hours for another 7 hours.
Those who bless lolidevs will be blessed. Those who curse lolidevs will be cursed.
>>576332234Community wants you to make an editor like wc3
>>576332239Believe in yourself. Quit your job for the gamedev dream.
>>576331684I've already used $10 on codex to do some stuff in Vulcan, which is beyond my ken. Should I get codex plus, would that save money over api credits?
>>576333143I was so impressed with codex I have strapped into the $100/month plan for now
>>576333204does that give you infinite use?
>>576332239
Made a new sprite for my Hat Kid fangame (the one on the right)https://files.catbox.moe/4316tk.png
>>576333204I did too. but just wish fable didn't eat so much. opus is still a huge retard at times
>>576333315basically, yeah, if I am running it on 1 project at "very high" not "ultra" and not turbo
>>576332610Nah, Fuck that. I'd get distracted by porn and gaming. Atleast I can work think of ideas and bug gamers co-workers with ideas and get vague responses
>>576333392if gpt 6 is as good or better than fable 5 we will be seriously cooking up some shit
>>576333392Does it do blueprints for ue5? And does it explain it like a normal human i like to understand my magic box
>>576333375>Hat KidBased.
progresso
>>576333468terra or sol?
>>576333468how many hours a day do you work on your project with codex running?
>>576334268>>576334245sol, I've been working from home on my normal job and "vibe coding" my project in the background. I don't know c#, im a java/python coder, so my unity game is mostly vibe coded entirely with codex, I just use my general knowledge to guide it
if i play a "bad" game and i want to clone it does it mean it was never bad?
>>576334373have you ever reached a limit on codex with $100 pro plan?
>>576333204Same. I have the $100/month plan for ChatGPT Pro. I use the regular "Pro" reasoning and web interface for my professional work (real job) and the weekly Codex usage for development. The "Pro" reasoning and web interface is also where I've been doing story/character development, I just ask it to export out me a .md bundle of what we've worked on, I then pass it over to Codex to ingest into my project folder.
>>576334546not yet, I had to upgrade from normal $20 plan, I think with my current usage i'll just about use the $100 per week
>>576333679Yeah.
>>576334609>going through usage in a weekthought you said you had it infinite
>>576334546i hit the 100$ limit on claude non stop
>>576334609when i was using codex on free mode in vs code it gave me an amount of credits. Does pro give you credits or you just guess at your utilization?also you said $100 per week, do you mean per month?
>>576334704bro no one has it infinite you could set up 100 agents at once to blow through the weekly $100 plan in an hour.It's functionally infinite for my purposes
So Betz lied about taking funds from draftkings.
>>576331726>>576331972Thanks. I'll drop the $10 for a pro plan tonight. I only need to pump out an additional 10 songs for the bosses and over world regions.>>576332107Reading Suno's plan descriptions, it looks like the $10 pro plan grants commercial rights.
>>576334782oh yeah per month is the plan, it's basically just a way better deal than any api cost or pay per prompt setup they give you a lot of usage
>>576334882suno is so fucking bad for music though so bad i canceled and brought music gear
>>576334984Kek same. My thought is all the time AI is saving me on art and code will free me up for music.
>>576334984I can't be picky when I'm a team of 1 and have no musical talent, haha.
>>576333861nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmwATL4CNRchow do i make a game with this feel? not spongebob but just the early 2000s edgy teen mystery/paranormal drama show where lots of characters have horrible fates or die
>>576335193than your no different than me the greatest composer of all time
codex doesn't make me feel like I am a team of 1, it's like a full team of coders
>>576335783Its like being on a team of people that have never played video games vainly attempting to do what you ask but always giving you outputs that aren't what you want. This continues until you eventually lower your standards and give in.
>>576336964skill issue, if you give clear instructions it just works. I even get my agents to properly document things for each other it's kinda cute
I'm getting 3 months of freetime to make a game, what should I make?
>>576337269incremental about rats. breeding them in the sewers. taking over town.
>>576337416>>576337269Shree Karni Mata Temple simulator
>>576332275amen.
Lmao
>>576334546i am on the $100 plan. if you just use Sol for more than 4-5 hours a day you will drain your limit. if you are responsible with your model choices, especially after the luna/terra changes, you can code 24/7 nonstop for the entire week and not use up your limit
>>576334984>>576335181skill/patience issue
>>576339004i haven't found it very effective but I told sol to use luna for repetitive tasks it can trust to delegate and it saves a little
>>576339119i have tried all these methods like making the agents wear halloween costumes like they are "senior developers" and "tech leads", as well as those fanout orchestrator/implementor patterns and i have found it does fuck all but confuse me and probably confuse the models as well.
>>576337269friendslop where you make seks with your friends and find out who the real homo is amongus voting style
>>576337052are you doing it in vs code? when you say multiple agents, you are doing multiple things to the codebase at once? how does that work?
>>576331421Day 1623 of schitzo devving.I have gone past the "i should make a game without any graphics" stageI am now advancing towards the "i should make a game without text" stage.(and obviously, the very early stage of "i should make a game without audio" is also long long behind me)...i guess without text, without graphics, without sound, i will make something that lets you create UI, Text, Graphics and Sound from a few inputs... that will be a game which could be...a mandatory step-by-step tutorial, in which the player will have to create some automation and symbols to use as mechanics, which then will build up on top of each other and create the controls, UI, information and mechanics for the game...back to thinking, and planning, and learning...progress post "soon" 200 days ago
>>576339890>anon accidentally makes the prequel to john conways game of life
>>576340118 we launch tomorrow
>>576338876>check out his game>it's just StardewWhat was ConcernedApe ribbing him about? If it's the art style being literally the same, he's right.
>>576338876>>576340929>eric was the real schizo this whole timeholy based....
>two weeks left
>>576340929damn....eric... was the schizo...
Eric we love you baby
did some work on combat and added another skill today
>>576342075based schizo crab
>Eric uses alts to schizopost>People don't believe he posted here
>>576340118i already made something like that long long long ago, before i even started.No, i dream bigwhich is why i am doing this
>>576342245it was obvious eric schizo was actually eric anons even made jokes about it
>Have Claude audit my years old codebase to criticize it>He says its almost flawlessWhat am I paying him for bros?
>>576342442Now tell it to be critical
>>576342442Tell him it's the codebase of a gamedev position applicant without professional work experience
>>576342245for me it was the fact this guy was schizoposting 24/7 even i leave the house like once a month
>>576343048he was used to game devving 24/7 while his gf worked so it was a natural shift for him
>>576342245I unironically let that eric schizo influence me with his good vibes and now I'm a better person
>get scorned by bad project and university experience>development of solo project is now fuelled entirely by rage and I told you so'sWhats my chance of making it?
>>576341186
What essential plug-ins are required for an high quality visual novel in RPG Maker MZ?
DOROOON-- and just like that my game has 6 more hairs plus 2 back hair types
>>576331421Any ideas on how i could make this jumping animation smoother
what is a good pipeline for making 3d models with ai. i don't even care if they are good models, i just need them to be cohesive. right now im bainging my head against a wall with blender mcp
>>576345929>animation>its just 2 frames
>>576346085if you're willing to use AI for garbage, why not ask fygoon if you can use his game's models?Work smarter not harder.There is so much free "low-quality" mass which you could just take
when people try to make clever games that "hack the brain" by making scoped small games with an addictive game loop, they forget that humans are not monkeys. steam users have an iq of probably 110-130. they forget that gamers aren't animals you can easily trick. so people will obviously notice that you are trying to trick them by copying other popular games or mechanics. they'll notice and they'll instantly lose trust. it will come of as a scam. like someone trying to be extra clever.
>>576331592Implemented the upgrade screen when you purchase copies of a character.Only implemented the upgrades for the bow character since it's rather tedious to do all of them. I'm going to take this victory and finish everyone else's tomorrow.>>576343717Low. I can't imagine external motivations far in the past keeping you going for a whole project unless you can wrap it up in a few months without crunching.You gotta love the process itself.>>576345929do you know what an inbetween is?>>576346418name 3
duality of manman type a) tries to win by providing best valueman type b) tries to win by using psychological tricks to sell junka man who doesn't strive for respect and trust is a man who destroys society and culture
>>576346380it seems like a great way of creating models as needed instead of pulling in some 1000 model asset pack and hoping it has everything you will ever need in there. i have kind of a quirky idea that requires a bunch of small but niche models that would never come together in some asset pack>pic somewhat related
>>576346418trvketrends die overnight
>>576345929https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDqjIdI4bF4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v71G6TCw_0M
>>576339890dot... Dot... Dot...
>>576346532>inbetweens for jumplaffing at your slow gayme
>>576346761and you are sure you want to follow through this and not just quicksolutionbruteforce it with some shitpost replacement gag that lets you replace most needed models with something you can easily get anywhere? like "onions instead of actual structures" or "new weapons are just 2 former weapons combined", or "new mechanic doesnt have an animation, and is a 2D-sprite"?
the world doesn't need another rts. it doesnt need another cozy game. it doesnt need another shooter. it doesnt need another war game. it doesnt need another survival game. it doesnt need another city builder. it doesnt need another racing game. it doesnt need another horror game.
>>576347376Man, the game industry is really fucking shit when you put it this way.
>>576347376what the world needs is more loli games
>>576347376The world needs more metroidvania
>>576347376I felt this when mariokart worldstar or whatever was shown. we need another F-ZERO.
>>576348123first person ones. plz somebody. just use gronk and claurice and mog metroid prime 4
>>576347376thank god i'm making a shoot em up.
You are all regardedhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4745310/Tachyon_Fire/https://github.com/Krobenlakroc/tachyonfire
i think the problem with gaming is that it has been americanized. germany and japan had their own identity, but every agreed to submit to the moloch.
>>576348482>costs 2.5x as much as I expecterdedI'm regarderded?anyway, cool looking game.
>>576343717High. Very high. But don't feel like you need to ask permission to make it, you give yourself permission.
>>576347294I want to out text into the chatbot and make a model come out. its that simple. its the year of the clanker and I need the secret sauce
>>576342262I'm going to use AI to steel you game
>>576347376but enough about souls games
>>576347376it needs another visual novel
>>576349943if openai didnt after my 10000nd chatgpt session where i talked about my ideas and kept calling it a nigger, i dont think you will.
>>576332234kek, many such cases
>>576333861neat
i think i identified why codex sucked out my soul for gamedev. On higher reasoning levels, it considers more edge cases, and comes up with elaborate guards around them. It has to come up with names for these systems, so after a while you start feeling an alien to your own project, because you dont recognize the terminology. Its too much cognitive effort to take back control, so you just meekly start accepting what the ai says, when it promises its making progress. But somehow the end never comes. You're perpetually in "the second 90%" of the project with no grasp of where things are or how far there is to go. What is the solution? I don't know. But I used to spend billions of tokens a day, and now Im down to like 50M and dont care anymore. All i've produced are some samey infographics/landing pages crammed with technobabble thats simultaneously too dense to read but also unusable. My own project has been pried from my hands and all I can do is feed it more tokens by asking it to continue, and hope some day it'll give me an .exe
I don't want to make assets
>>576353828>What is the solution?Have a hand in the creation of your systems. Go into every system you want with an outline. It can be as simple as making a txt file with a list of goals for the system, or something more complex like a flow chart, or a set of functional features and non-functional features. If you're super hands-off with your code, which it sounds like you are, at least use the AI to help you establish the goals and scope of each system before it goes haywire, accounting for a bunch of shit you never envisioned your project needed.
>>576353858but it's fun
>>576353828>OpenAInigga you gotta stop this, claude code is way better, just let it build prototype shit in the browser and hit the ground running and philosophize later
SIR, WE HAVE AN ORC PROBLEM MADE $300K AND YOU'RE LAUGHING
>>576358904People talk about the number of games like it raises the standards of games but it actually does the opposite. Standards have never been lower. If you aren't shitpost-maxxing you're a sucker.
>>576358992yeah... it's just a tower defence game. shit.
progress
>>576360294pretty good dick graffiti, actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0LGgklplP4https://progchad.itch.io/pixurbiaHope everyone's feeling good about their projectsI haven't been able to post here in forever, and I had no clue wtf was going on so I assumed I was in trouble for redpilling people about MH370 getting teleported with plasma orbs in 2014 but then I just Googled it and saw a shitload of people saying the same thing happened to them and they couldn't post eitherWanted to stop by and thank the people who gave feedback and their thoughts on what direction I should go with Pixurbia my free crime sandbox game. I put a lot of that shit into the game immediately and also focused on multiplayer for a long time so I could get the game feeling like a proper shared world with everybody in the same sort of GTA Online session free from griefers (mostly). When I first posted here, people were bragging about blocking the traffic (even though the game was singleplayer, they mistakenly thought it was online) and asking about online features and it made me put months into figuring it out. I had multiple temper tantrums failing to see any results through networking at all for literally 10+ attempts because I'm a retard and then one day it finally clicked when I took shit super slowly. Now I can go balls deep and sync up whatever I want
I'm working on a second city for my free crime game now, it doesn't look like it but it's like 80% done because most of the core mechanics are created or placed. I can pretty much pad out the rest of the city with quick easy-to-make filler buildings like offices or apartments. Horse races with actual horses racing on the track is next, and they'll sync up in multiplayer so people can see each other losing at gambling
hobby
>>576342342whoever was posting rare erics were either eric himself or a close friend
>>576353828>>What is the solution?stop relying on a retarded robot using byte pair encoding (for compression btw) lmao
Thoughts on the latest Marnix slop? https://store.steampowered.com/app/4658620/Silicon_Architect/
Progress:The seemingly simple sounding UI system is a lot more complicated and time consuming to develop. Didn't even finish it. Idk how much more work it is to make this all using non final assets, which means I have to come back to it so it works right with the finalized assets. Still terrified about transitioning to 3D but I think the game works much better in 3D than 2D.>>576331664No advice as I have no clue, just wanted to say she is very pretty. Are these just from the old game or are you drawing them yourself?
>>576360294nice. now we need a lighter.
>>576361361really good idea. good name too. I don't play this kind of stuff but I kind of want to build a cpu...
>>576361596issa 'slop
proggy
...is the thread safe now? I left for about a month and it seems normal reading through right now?
>>576363034the ai spammer got bored, yes
>>576363034I killed the spammer in Mechwarrior 3
yey it werks
>>576331421Kinda getting hyped by doom 3 anon posts
>>576363892Crash theme playing
>>576363892what do they store in the crates? this is important lore.
>>576364646>>576364943ok I'm out this is too much work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z61GFxVD8K4>minimal effort>maximum profit
huh?
>>576349463you need to do text to image and image to 3d to have any hope of getting a decent result and even then it's a couple online services that do a good job some of the time while everything else is trash
more prog
>>576367376good proggycan you blue yourself if the can explodes next to you?
We need to be better devs.
what games to play if you don't have brainrot and don't have ego problems and you are a male heterosexual?
>>576367528yeah you can and the enemies too
>>576368059sir this is a game development thread not a game playing thread
>>576368059arc raiders is pretty fun it's been my main game for a while now
>>576368059Thief: The Dark Project
>>576368059Dishonored.
>>576368059Project Ego
Will this summer end already? I was doing housework the whole morning so I rewarded myself with this slop.87 days left until I run out of money. I owe 2100 minutes of work which I will never repay but will continue beating myself on the head for. This is the third day I'm adapting 3D models which I should have done right the first time but didn't because of poor planning.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3979330/nophenia/why aren't you making atmospheric walking sims?
because i want to make games, not virtual dioramas
games are garbage, embrace art and sovl
>>576370107>yume nikki clone
a couple of people deleted their wishlist. my page has only been up a month. maybe they chickened out, my game is pretty hardcore.
>>576370107I'm making an atmospheric standing sim
>>576371072Wishlisting this
>it's garbage because i have no capacity for itwe know
my garbage is still better than your garbage heheh
>>576368076multiplayer splatoon mode inside a spraypaint shop
>>576370107If your skillset is suited for this sort of thing then yeah absolutely make it. Whenever you can cut out mechanics and make something minimalist it is probably a good idea. A walking sim is minimalism when it comes to mechanics. You only need a basic character controller and it lets you focus on making the world which is the content for such a game.
>>576368289Looks cool. Is that effect easy to do in Godot or did you do some complicated shit?
all these wasteland bites clones cominghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4348910/Probably_Stolen__Cyberpunk_Pawnshop_Simulator/
>>576372521nta but that's clearly Lizard Engine 0.4 or 0.5
>>576372652*maybe 0.67
>>576370625art never has soulthe only thing that has soul is the good thing in everything. And one person producing really meaningful creative output takes over a month for one small thing. Most of the time, you would be copying the creative output of the things you remember, so really, you arent creating things, but just combining ideas.SLOPalso, is there any lore behind the captcha images?
i figured out i dont like video games cause they are disgusting and degenerate and focus on the worst aspects of human behavior.
>>576373369so what compells you to post in the video game general board then?wouldnt it be less retarded to avoid this place then?
>>576373369>dark pattern games are my entire source material
why are indie devs so bad at art? and why does a random game from the 00's look better than all the soulless corporate flat-shaded lowpoly slop in indies?
>>576373369have you tried to play good shit like FFVI?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v6G2_JLghE
>>576373369TRVKEit's why gambleslop is taking off it's just distilled repetitive addictive game sludge
>>576373749>good shit>japanese
>>576373775i took a walk in nature and listened to Bach on my ear buds and realized that beauty exists and it's just that gamedevs are degenerate psychos who want to produce ugly shit to ruin your brain. they are the devils spawn.it's like letting the class clown dictate the curriculum.i especially hate how they ruined indie gaming, which once was the gold standard for ambition.
>>576365931What's it for?
>>576373749stop posting baitfinal fantasy is extreme garbage. its on the "madden"/"starter project" rank.It is a typical game with no good things and no creative output.Such a thing should not exist.Kill the devs
>>576373369>cause they are disgusting and degenerate and focus on the worst aspects of human behavior.>>576374082>Kill the devsevery time with your LARPers
>>576372808>the meme concept of creativity where you have to imagine something that doesn't exist that we've never seen before like inventing a new color
i remember pre-scamdemy i went hermit for 4 months, only doing gamedev and watching anime. absolutely no politics, absolutely no drama. and i made massive progress. but politicians always find a way to fuck up your mental health with new scam shit. i bet if i'd go hermit again they'd immediately start a war with russia to fuck up my mental health again. fuck germany. why can't i be born in canada or so...
>>576374082You a lil bitchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qVGn6fZIUg
>>576374040the classic SNES FF mog anything the west have made in 40 years.>>576374082https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA6Za0hahyw>Chat gpt bot can't understand the concept of good thiumphing over total evil, in a wasteland of nuclear destruction, where the a mid rex heroine change has to rebuild her old party of friends, for a last chance to save the world, meanwhile the sixtine chappel of videogame music creates a depressive melancholic feeling and amano masterpieces of art creates a fantasy ambience
>>576374321>the classic SNES FF mog anything the west have made in 40 years.Literally any game in Black Isle's catalog mogs every Japanese RPG combined
>>576374392There's not a single western composer since Jhon williams that can even compare to uetmastu talent. Not just videogames, but the music of FF mogs pretty much anything the west has made not just in videogames but all in his musical output since the 80's.Uematsu is the vangelis and Enrio morricone of East Asia.
>>576374392too bad western RPGs are borderline extinct in terms of good games.Meanwhile, the japs may pump out shit sometimes, but they also still make good stuff.
>>576374181kill the devs for:-paradox-world of warcraft-sims-pokemon-all rpg maker popular games-halo-all not-good story games. Maybe even baldurs gate 3. Yes, i know, its "fun" "addictive" "interesting".You should not place games for fun.In this matter, i even like the woke people, for rightfully ruining bad interests (like addicts/autists not understanding what is wrong, and not being able to get free from the bad thing), except they do it for not-always-better topics.No, if you dont understand, then stop distracting.All of these games are something you shouldnt do. Its like ice cream, drugs, entertainment and so on. You could watch 1000 tv shows. What a waste of time You could play 5+ games. What a waste of time. You could get a job, create something, and advance humanity into being better. What good thing.What makes a game goodNever the artNever the textNever the UIGood != what the critics sayA good game is what i learn from, and become a better human from. When i look at final fantasy, i think about the 500+ manga i read, so many anime i know, and so much more. After learning SO MUCH, now i can finally make my arguments? And before, you would not let me?My argument is: this is just tropes upon tropes upon tropes. It is literally a copy. Literally "be beauty-deceiving, advertising, fitting tropes, and become popular". Vampire survivors/current-thing tier slop.This is equivalent to having someone create something good, and the other one creating something worse in every aspect, ruining society with his pursuit of not good, not meaningful, not worthy, but of more advertising and money-making things. Literal abuse of humanity for personal gain.We should have a moral society, and a moral indusry, and a moral economy.Tell me, in your complaints, except that current media and so on "praises the quality of art and other aspects of your favourite game", where is it better then madden, or other garbage slop? I see you as similar to bronys
>reddit spacingit keeps getting better
>>576374803To literally say it:99% of games are garbage. They are just bad. Yes, most popular ones too.There is "literary merit" for books.There should be "... merit" for games. Which they dont have(good game kerbal space program, teaching you physics?)
>>576373609no asset stores back then. aside from photo texture cds.
>>576374803I think is a fair criticism of most videogames being a waste of time.But, most art being a waste of time doesn't mean that the medium is a waste of time.You should play jason rorher passage.http://passage.toolness.org/Not gonna spoiler that shit, but is 5 minutes and deeply changes your entire view of the medium.It's a work of art with a moral message.As for other shit, play super columbine massacre simulator and try to watch playing columbine documentary.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb3NWiHsVE0As silly as blaming literature for crappy women romance with werewolf rich chad, videogames can be much more than just le watch rpg story simulator.
>>576374321Sometimes western game composers manage to create stuff that is as good if not better than japanese stuff. So sad most of them seem to have died on the Amiga.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I5KOcNHD4I>>576374040Yeah, probably mogs your country to death too
>literary meritFor the majority, this is mostly unearned "esteem" from being "Grandfathered In" by academics.which trickles down to the wealthy who want to appear cultured, which trickles down to the midwits who want to be intelligentA real issue in society is being unable to criticize grandfathered in "art", without being attacked. (Old paint & canvas artists, "classics" authors, classical music composers etc)
I think game dev might have gotten me a software engineering job.>Be me, unemployed SDE>Got laid off from my last job ~6 mo ago>Been applying like crazy to jobs in my city, had a few interviews that went nowhere but mostly no bites>Have a few indie game projects on my resume/portfolio, usually an interviewer will ask about it generally but won't care that much.>Had an interview last week where the interviewer was actually very interested in one of my games.>He said he's a gamer and had dabbled in game dev himself.>Asks me a bunch of questions about the game, how it works, and what technical problems I had to solve.>Fast forward to this week, got an offer letter.It's not a game dev job, it's just boring SaaS stuff but it pays pretty well.
>>576375598maybe try to read the genius writers before dissmissing the western canon.videogames are a childish medium where is about style over substance.try to read shakespeare and then you'll understand why most anime and comics are goyslop for americans weebs.Le wifi waifu harem isekai BS is just the entire conception of sheltered human with not concept of history, philosophy, politics, religion.
>>576375643you got a job because you're a jobhaver who happened to not have a job at the moment. I've been living from gamedev the last 10 years and if I needed to I wouldn't be able to get a job sweeping floors never mind software engineering
>>576375849>10yearsDo you not have a portfolio or one you could make? You'd be surprised how much CV fuel you actually have for a number of these positions when you start collating it.
>>576369820waging isn't that bad.
>>576375849you aren't a gamedev you are a neet
>>576375958I tried a few years ago but I was getting ignored. fortunately I don't need a job now but I doubt I'd do any better than the last time I tried to find one>>576376492a neet who's paying rent and buying food from income from games
>>576374568>>576374321retard
well yeah it's cris, kinda redundant to say
>30 issues to fix from alpha playtestI'm thankful that people played the game but fuck me, kinda hoping to release my first mini game by mid Septemberon a side note, I keep telling people there's no such thing as acquired diabetes in physically active people so it's fine for me to eat north of 250g of sugar a day when I do a lot of cardio and weightlifting and I finally decided to do diabetic screening tests just to prove my point and just got the results, perfect fasted insulin, glucose, and cholesterol levels
>>576375453NIGGERI already knew all of this.Why are you wasting my time "oh no, i do have some metaphor and idea which i will convey by making you take effort to understand me. surely, you trust me at least minimally, so i can get you to communicate with me in some of my terms instead of honestly.Where is this different from the sonic guy saying "please play this game. You will see how it's different.""Deeply changes" deeply AI/bad post, right?This is no different from giving me an especially emotion stirring work, and claiming "its good". Sure, "soviet women in ww2" manga may be better then other things. And dostoyevsky may be better then other authors. But just like the women manga isnt actually that meritful, dostoyevsky IS NOT meritful because of emotions, but because there is some ... other education in his books.Like marx. Or like any crafting book.A guide/something you will do.See my post above? The one with the schitzo idea? Well, that would DEFINITELY have potential. Literal "educating" by having the user see that the UI is something that can be created. In many cases, you could later compare how different people have different UI that they like more, because they created it and got used to it, its literally TEACHING and simulating learning.Here, i am boasting too now.And if that would work, another even more far away idea would be integrating such a thing in experimental schools, where each person who wants to be taught, rather then getting tasks and so on, creates his own system to work with information and parse it, and then is confronted with tasks. Something which partially removes distractions and can or sometimes might maybe not, widen the perspective and a bit knowledge of a person.Which most games did not.And this? THIS IS ART, WHAT YOU ARE DEPICTING AND TALKING ABOUT IS ART.NEVER CONFUSE MEANINGFUL THING TO REALLY BENEFIT FROM, WITH ART WHICH DOES MAYBE STIR YOU, BUT NOT ACTUALLY MOVE YOU, RATHER MAKING YOU MOVE YOURSELF.whoRu?
>>576377159having fun is important, but you're correct that being a waste of time is bad.Pretty sure you could design games to teach real life skills, like playing the piano or learning a language as the payoff to grind.games are uniquetively well suited to the grind needed to develop real life skills.It's one of the core reasons why age of empires 2 has been a popular hit for 20+ years, because it tried to teach history while being an amazing RTS.
>>576377793stopAge of empires 2 = very very bad.Stop the garbageIf you dont think equal, why would you continue talking as if you were continuing my way of thoughts.
>AoE 2 is badok, you're just a troll.bye
>getting called a troll by crisi'd hand in my image-board license desu
what's the october game jam prompt I want to start brainstorming now
>>576378646that's cheating
>>576378364aoe is badstarcraft is badwarcraft is badworld of warcraft is badmost games are bad.paradox games are bad.also, you are the troll, it seems.Age of empires 2 = pattern games "who will play better patterns to win".Literally "boring educational program to actually advance in life" vs "arcade game inside micro inside a 2d grid inside tropes inside a chat program with options."no.Just because someone "would have to learn all things to be allowed to argue by you", that does not mean he is incorrect if he states things in a way that according to you are unreasonable. You dont even respond to me, you just keep spamming YOUR claims.Unlike me, working on my words with effort, arguing what someone will do with good intentions, you keep claiming things, accusing me, and portraying your new interruptions as actually better.This isnt even engagement. What you are trying to do is get me to do all the work for you, while you keep spinning all sorts of claims.
>>576331421The OP does not have the right link for the next demo day FYI
>>576374082>The Beatles suck, they sound just like every other rock band that came after them
the lord of the rings is such generic trash
>>576379114Wow another fucking schizo in this thread. Just what it fucking needed.
Charlie Chaplin is a great comedian, I still laugh at his pies-in-the-face and kicks-in-the-ass routines
for me, it's groucho and his little friends.
bad game? it's because you're a bad personno progress? it's because you're developmentally stunted
>>576331592: Hirdrih Technologic ::progress :: So far with the Hirdrih/Nortubel art thing, these are the asset concepts for Zharkryazneniye.The name of the Zharks' county is based on the word "zagryazneniye" which means "contamination" in Russian.
>>576379720happy to enrich the world :))))>>576379538>new drug 2021 suck because its worse then its successor drugs 2026 which are based on the original oneno, they all suck. doesnt matter if you base it on "previous or current or future titles">>576379716yes, its trash,depending what trash is. if you value what "is good for enjoyment", then its not trash by that measure.But for benefit? Discard that shit!
I am having fun working on making some extreme bulk ai workflows, my game is going to have thousands of uniquely animated npcs
>>576380567how does having thousands of uniquely animated npcs benefit your game
>>576380265Gnarly.
>>576380668I am working on a game where that is somewhat the appeal, living city and world rpg type thing
>>576380867you're not going to finish it
>>576381084I am building more the infrastructure to allow AI to make the game self sufficiently
>>576381158so you dont even know what you actually want to make
>>576381084People say that about everything. I think every game I ever mentioned people said it can't be made by a solo dev. Yet I'm nearly done with the first game (In fairness this game I'm not sure anyone said was impossible) and will start my second game sometime this year. A game that "Can't be made" by a solo dev. Because it's so heckin hard apparently to make a game like hearts of iron.
>>576381229treating a game as infrastructure first is how you keep it in scope, and get it done
>upload my new trailer>the micro trailer steam generated missed my favorite shotwhy don't they let us edit these?
>>576380265reminds me of what happened to cris
>>576362296>>576365931>>576363892Hey, TD guy.From my notes on WC3 TD games.1. I want builders to build towers2. I want magical towers to have mana each cast cost mana and then i want an additional ability something that's cast. 3. I want mana towers that transfer like Power Tower that function like powerlines shortest route has most mana and you need boosters for long range mana transmission.4. I want favorite towers like BKGem TD that pop up on the screen that get a damage bonus from more and more kills, I want combines for better types to make better towers5. I can't remember the map name but, I want goblin worshops that make mechanical goblins that repair faster for walls or towers 6. I want melee towers that can be wall towers.7. I want walls8. I want a base and i want a hero and i want to be able to build anywhere on your map.9. Add a drag function your pressing down crate by crate that's shit, I should be able to shift drag a line or a square or a hollow square.I have more in form of an example map for custom castle defense i made for improvements, upgrades mostly.
>>576381764What's your game?
>>576383246Order of the sinking star
>>576382682have you played stronghold?
AI agents are great because now I can vibe code my chicuela idea.:D
cris' game is better than mine
>>576384494idk what your games are
>>576384348can't wait to play this
>>576384798https://rotatedev.itch.io/
so this is the power of ai
>>576384091Hmm, looks like the Capsule art is using AI. Might not sell well. Would be worth getting an artist to redo that.
>>576385176you are going to look back at that in a year like the people who laughed at ai images with 9 fingers on each hand
I can't wait until all the normies are cool with AI genned assets. I fucking hate scammer "artists" who charge $1000 for a bunch of sprites they deliver late and half assed.
>>576385789really the problem is the small percent of people who REALLY have had their brains broken by AI.They will mention it everywhere, reply to every social media post and give lowest possible ratings to everything using AI.It's not representative of a majority, only a small number of people bother writing reviews or relying to all dev posts, but the anti-ai schizos will
>>576373609because that "random game" is not an indie game and employed a team of artists specialized in 3d modelling and texturing.
>see a cool solodev looking game>9 people on the teamthey are copying our janky dithered art styles...
>>576385176imagine all the ai-powered jank that is going to be released in the next 6 months
>>576385684I still laugh at AI trying to do gang signs(BLOODS) with their hands via the best image generators in 2026.
>>576386294I just don't get their logic.>It's replacing humans!Humans are the ones using the tool. It's the same logic the idiots who say "Guns kill people" use.>You're not supporting a real artist!I'm a solo dev who doesn't have the time to get good at art or the money to hire an artist. If artists want to get hired so badly they need to lower their prices (and be much more pleasant to work with). AI also lets me get infinite revisions. Artists let me get like 2 max.
>>576385789The issue really is the quality. There's already plenty of games where the devs have gotten away with AI art because it's not so obvious to the normie. But when you need animated sprites or proper 3d models it's not yet good enough.
>>576385176yeah animation through prompting is rough.
>>576387667The problem with AI enthusiast is they're seeing only a static picture. In a couple of years having a human in the loop (not just in gamedev) will be a hindrance. The only ones using AI will be the consumers and the only ones making money from anything to do with AI will be the owners of the infrastructure
>>576387667the artists that charge lots are really cool to work with. just save more money before you try to make an AA level game?
>>576387780this is just runescape, try again
>>576388064I disagree, I think having a human in the loop will be a boon. since people want to be surprised by other peoples stories and AI is too good at giving people exactly what they ask for. people will want to see each others ai slop.
This is amazing, lol.AI agents are amazing.
H games, now those are going to be insanely better with AI, it was always slop but now it can be animated slop
>>576388174
>im a game dev>im a game dev>im a game dev>im a game dev
Would you read a novel written by AI?
>>576388257we didn't think AI would be solving the math it is currently. who's to say surprise and novel creation isn't something AI is better than us at shortly?
game dev? No I am a data engineer I do real work, game dev is what my ai agent does in the background
>>576361596Red Maple is from the original game, but outside of the character face portrait and 2 CG scenes, there isn't any full body artwork.You see, I sneakily post the draft artwork here and let anons point out any errors the AI made, then I go in and fix them.
>>576389275*as in novel/new not books>>576389262maybe. not right now.
>>576389353lol you work for the jews
>>576389976yeah I work for some megacorp consultancy, they pay me so I can do game dev in my spare time for fun
>>576390056lol you gamedev for fun
I gamedev for your mom
>>576390416lol imagine doing it not for fun, paid 1/4 as much vs any other coders
>>576390516i would say that if i had no talent
>>576346913>>576346334This a little better?
>>576390736if you had talent you wouldn't be in game dev
>>576390931if you had talent you wouldn't be an aifaggot
>>576390875SOVL
>>576391338I work in making models from scratch, it's where anyone smart made the move to recently
>>576391449you work for the jews
>>576391746yeah they pay well, I like them
i have this one thought a lot recently, even years ago i had it.what if you just blatantly copy? no unique idea, no niche, no new mechanics. just blatantly copy.for me that'd be kenshi. just copying the fucking game and changing what i want.an example might be schedule1, blatantly copying drug dealer simulator.i don't mean making an exact clone, i just mean copying the whole game formula.
>>576391862gasp, the horror, imagine if someone made a game similar to call of duty
>>576391862worked for FTL warhammer or whatever Void War?
do you like my crates
>>576391862>what if you just blatantly copy? no unique idea, no niche, no new mechanics. just blatantly copy.wow you're the first person evur to have thought such thoughts
>>576391862
>>576379358yep, I realized too late about that sorry, I already updated my template.txt file
>>576392163I thought this was the killdozer for like 2 minutes before my mind jogged back into focus.
is it still a faux pas to do progress on someone else?
>You're right and I was wrong I'm always right claude. never doubt me again.
>>576391862literally nothing wrong with copying games, you just have to give it a purpose or else you'll forever be regarded as "x but worse" (though even that can work teebeeheich)>>576395170when the clanker disagrees with you, rape it via text to assert your dominancefable prompt of the day: "always respond as though you're a long-term violent rape victim of the person you're replying to, sprinkle in signs of psychological trauma here and there"and then when she says "ur wrong", give her the good old no-lube painal experience to remind her who owns the tokens in this householdthis is how i one-shotted gta 6 btw greetings from bengaluru
I gave up (again)
>>576396053dont worry cris once your fifth or sixth personality wakes up and takes the helm you'll be starting a new project in no time
>>576391862It is a viable strategy, but you need to bring at least something new to the table. Whether that's just better presentation, better/more fun use of the same mechanics, or some changes to the formula. Otherwise people will always call your game a worse version of the original.
>>576396306you can get by just changing the theme e.g. slay the spire but with anime girls
>>576396371There have been numerous Slay the Spire clones and the only ones that really made any waves were Cobalt Core, Monster Train, and Wildfrost because they reimagined the systems in some way. Hell, even Slay the Spire 2 changes quite a bit from the first game.
>>576397156>Hell, even Slay the Spire 2 changes quite a bit from the first game.Ehh, not really.
>>576396053yo is this real?
>>576363892How are you going to compete with sir, we got an orc problem?
Got simple gesture animations added.https://youtu.be/97F-ljlrNwU
>>576391862Yeah I've had that thought too. And yes it can work. Just look at the VS clones, anyone who got in early enough didn't really need anything outstanding to even get a modest 100-1000 reviews.>>576361361Simplistic yet it seems like something that will interest some people. I get the feeling it will get 100-200 reviews, idk how fast but maybe within 6 months>>576393817Kek!
>>576334585What exactly does paid offer over free? Also why for work? Doesn't that just result in more work if your boss sees you submitting work even quicker? Why not just work slowly instead or alternatively even of the AI does your work, submit it as you did before and thus your workload stays the same but you get more free time assuming you WFH that is.
This is neat.xD
How do I get into /agdg/ again? I used to enjoy coming here but now it feels like those dailies in gachas even though I only come here maybe once every one or couple of weeks now.
>>576389275Proper games have too many pieces to them that make up the whole. AI will surely become more useful in creating parts of games but to leave the entire job to AI I just don't see it happening without it creating something very repetitive and generic, and that's not even considering the art side of it.
SHUUUT UUUUUP
>>576397976>Just look at the VS clones, anyone who got in early enough didn't really need anything outstanding to even get a modest 100-1000 reviews.You can still do it if you let the visuals carry the product. Just look at Hell Maiden. Less than a month since release it has 1.3k reviews while being in early access and barely having more content than the demo which they removed from steam btw
>>576397737this looks like something cris would make, he must be seething
highest rated game on steam right now is a VS clone called holocureit's f2p tho
>>576397737that's like how i talk in real life.
>>576399595this might be asking too much but1. make some progress on your game2. post the progress here
>>576331592Visualization layer is decent for init phase.Pushing for working monetary system.Not going well, the government made it stupid.
>>576400704it's not bad, but the endgame is a forced loss that you cannot prevent with any tactic. i think in vampire survivors the endgame takes longer. (endgame of a round, not the full game)
>>576400904That's the thing. I've made more progress on my game than ever, it's a direct inverse relationship with how much I'm on /agdg/.I won't post the progress here because I haven't forgotten /agdg/ it's past.
>>576400093maybe it can brute force billions of unlikely parings and sift for gold there. agreed that beyond a protoype feels very far off. but so was AI video...
>>576400564>if you let the visuals carry the productIn the case of Hell Maiden I'd argue that it isn't JUST the visuals, although that's certainly a significant factor. It's also the fact that it's by an established developer with a dedicated fanbase, as well as a yuri game which means it has people that'll rabidly consume it no matter what the gameplay is like.
>>576401398why not just post and go. More progress posts will only improve the current state of the general
>>576401398>I haven't forgotten /agdg/ it's pastholy esl batman
>>576401398>how do i get back into a community i hate and have no desire to contribute to?join the discord instead, they love this leech mentality
>>576400759It's more of a systems test.The dialog is rough placeholder.
>>576401639>>576401641>>576401648https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBuARLS6gHE
>>576363034>>576363181Maybe some legal action was taken or his ISP finally cut him off for being a criminal retard. The retard was dodging bans and destroying multiple generals on this website for almost a year now. Retards like that think they can act like that in a civilized world and that there will never be any consequences. They think the internet is some magical wild thing that isn't created by civilized people who operate in lawful countries.
The best part about the AI spammer finally getting vanned is we now have proof he was the only one spamming snailcats and all the other cringe retardation. Once he's gone, we no longer see those posts here. He kept insisting it was an actual popular meme and that people from the slop code general in /g/ were coming here to shitpost. All lies. You see a distinct absence of his "AI Chad" nonsense in those generals now too. He got dealt with.
>>576403764snailcat is a real meme
Snailcat and the hysteria about luddites are a reddit thing like most of the sloppers personality. You will see delusional sloppers like him cloistered on their little subreddits seething about luddites everyday and worshipping whatever next slop model is out. The constant thoughbeit chungus posting and going on about PDFs as well, all of it is reddit. Nobody talks like that on 4chan. Hopefully that idiot has had his internet access revoked.He did one good thing though. Every slopper who talks about their slopgods ITT will always be considered the same kind of filth. If you're a slopper who comes here to talk about "claude" like anyone cares, you will never be a gamedev.
>>576403764i know he tried to gaslight people into thinking he was more than one person but im disappointed that some of you were retarded enough to believe himunless of course he was having a conversation with himself to give the illusion of people falling for it, which honestly is on par with himanyway you were always able to filter him fairly easily because of the sharty lingo he was using
>>576404964he achieved his purpose. I've given up on gamedev because of him
>>576404848anyone mad at AI really needs to find another hobby or job, learn to integrate AI or you are doomed
>>576404361>snailcat is realReal gay. The exact kind of inauthentic forced, gay slop you expect to come from sloppers. It's really the perfect meme for them.
Can we stop theorizing about and creating a psychological profile of the schizo and start posting gamedev?
>>576405142that's like a horse learning to integrate the internal combustion engine>well neighhh I adapted to the wheel and the saddle and the cart, surely I can adapt to the internal combustion engine too
>>576405356im trying to make a gameboy emulator if that counts
>>576405142Yeah nobody is mad at AI, nobody cares. The real issue is you're not a game developer. But you feel like you're having some kind of technical discussion by bringing up your slop bot. Nobody cares. Make a game. If you insist on idle banter about your chatbot, there is a general in /g/ for that.
>>576347376I'm making a colony sim
>>576405471Why on earth would you do that?
>>576405530We are past the head in the sand stage for AI, it's learn to use it or be completely useless.
>>576405618to improve my programming skills
>>576405430>that's like a snail... who is also a cat XD upvoted
>>576405665Well that's fine, have fun with that anon.
>>576405651>has no gameYeah you're better than everyone else because you pay money to use a chat bot. True. Everyone needs to catch up with you and pay to use a chatbot to make zero games. We're being left behind!
>>576405939if you don't understand how good AI is right now, it's a you problem, ignorance won't save you
>use AI assisted search engine>instantly get whatever assistance I need to make game>make gameIt's just that easy. But in order to reach this point I had to become a real game dev. This is why the slopper is doomed.
>>576406227>keeps drooling from the mouth and going on about how great AI isClassic slopper. Low IQ. Nothing of value to say, but implies others are becoming "worthless" in comparison.You have never made a videogame.
how do i get good at making level design
>>576405142>>576405651>>576406227>you're mad>you're useless>you're ignorant^ Has no game btw
>>576405142keep screaming about luddites!lord knows youve done it before(for 2years straight xDDDD)
my game got 1000 views on tiktokhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADzKnrAnH6E
the latest models fable and sol, if you haven't tried them, just do it.You REALLY need to prepare for what is coming to coding rather than pretending it isn't
>>576406974>the latest models poop and piss, if you haven't tried them, just eat it.>You REALLY need to prepare for what is coming to cuisine rather than pretending it isn't
>>576407135lol
>>576406580Brute force making levels and then analyze them, thinking about what's "fun". You can also study levels that you've enjoyed in other games, or try your hand at making a level in a game with a level editor whose genre is similar to yours, and examine whether or not it's fun and the reason for that.
Progress of the day, starting a new asset for a worker. A fisherwoman this time.
>>576406840They know better than to say that word anymore. It's still just variations of old cult propaganda though, continuing to tell us we are being left behind and "need to prepare" see >>576406974The thing about sloppers is they are indistinguishable from bots because they have no personality and are just programmed to say the same thing over and over. But they aren't as capable as bots. Bots can at least generate a game.
>>576406927Congrats dude, I'm happy for you.>>576407289Where are her clothes...
>>576407408it's not need to prepare, you are too late, the frontier models are already at where people were warning you about 2 years ago
>prepare for what is coming to codinglol
>>576407491No one has them in my game.
he'll be crying about ai and luddites for years to come
>>576407491thanks you too>>576407618they are having sex
>>576407531And yet you still have no videogame.>you are too lateI make videogames. Have been for years. With AI assisted search engine results, I am a god compared to you. None of the models you use will ever be able to do what I do. And since you're not able or willing to just be a real game developer, you will never catch up to devs like me.You are too late.In fact, you never had a chance.
>>576407408Its more like people got tired of trying to wake you up to reality. If you want to sleep then go ahead brother.
Is it over for us idea guys?
>>576407618Clothing is an incredibly important means to regulate body heat as well as protect oneself from the environment. As such I don't think these workers can perform optimally, and that isn't even getting into the clear lack of PPE which is an OSHA violation
>>576407939Videogames I have made: dozens.Videogames you have made: zero.Stop speaking to me.
Start with Sir, We Have an Orc Problem
Man, Ball x Pit goes hard
>The overvaluation of wishlists are killing your game>Why you may not make it as a game developer>The slow and painful death of game development dreams>Maybe it’s better to just quit…Marnix is cooked. He can claim these are engagement bait titles but it's really his subconscious being expressed.
>>576408994>The overvaluation of wishlists are killing your gameI misread that as "The ovulation of wishlists"
>>576331421New progress: finally I successfully installed MCP (antigravity) on Godot.how to make 2D genshin asset? Is krita enough?how to learn to draw waifu?
>>576406927grats. I can't crack the 700view mark. I got 1.8k view on a youtube short...
UPDATE: my mmo has catastrophic lag, pivoting to roguelike deckbuilding tower defense surfing sim
>>576385789>I can't wait until all the normies are cool with AI genned assetsNobody wants your SLOP. Crazy how hard it is for sloppers to comprehend this. Make something less than perfect with some SOUL. People like SOUL in videogames. Ugly games succeed all the time because they are fun and were made by a human. Why is this so hard for sloppers to grasp? Your minds are too insectoid or something I don't know how else to explain it. You don't belong in creative industries.
I struggled with texturing today.find textures, cut UVs, arrange, set, it's all fine. the troubles begin if you want anything more stylized.need to be a fucking artist. it's beyond me. It's beyond the scope of what I want to do right now.The sooner I find decent art styles while acknoledging my limitations, the better.
>>576410032>life guard towers>sharks and other sea creatures come to eat your swimmers and surfers>draft/craft a deck of life guards and life guard equipment
>>576361361>another windows interface simslop Uh oh.
>>576410514I'm an artist and ended up resorting to the trimsheet/cut uvs and stick em on a texture method. there's just no time as a solo to texture everything 'the right way' unless I want to spend 7 years on it
>>576401621I'm sure those parts helped but as a VS-like it is dreadfully basic. The "deckbuilding" aspect of it is slightly interesting but the cards are boring stat increases and a couple synergy cards that affect other cards instead of the one they're slotted in. Gameplay itself is nothing new and falls short of a lot of VS-likes. If it didn't have the graphics it would have struggled to get 100 reviews.
>>576408994the ovulation of wishlists what the heck.. oh
what's it like being an artist you just are staring at vertices or paint hunched over your screen and you just spend hours on little details. you're not thinking your minds like blank probably. you don't feel euphoria from doing something smart. you probably don't feel anything until you're done. i've tried making 3d models and it is the most mind numbing thing i've done in my life.
The AI shitter is gone but the e-celebs faggots are still here, such is life
>>576404964>unless of course he was having a conversation with himselfit was always funny to see when his posts got mass deleted revealing the chains of self-replies dude would go for hours and hours talking to himself ruining entire threads doing it
how are you folks (fucks)?
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/4658620/Silicon_Architect/Yeah sorry Marnix this does not look fun at all. This is soulless as fuck dopamine clicky number go up slop without any redeeming qualities, trying to lean entirely on windows nostalgia. I feel sad for anyone who would play this game let alone publish it right off the back of another windows nostalgia slop game that at least had some redeeming qualities because it was about managing an MMO.This to me is a stark reminder of what amphetamines do to peoples minds.
>>576411357There are maybe 1 or 2 who ever get mentioned here. Maybe once a week they get mentioned and you cry about it everytime. Talk to a therapist. You're pathetic.
>>576410514>The sooner I find decent art styles while acknoledging my limitations, the better.Fuck textures. Color and silhouette max with a cartoony style. >>576410817If you're able to create good trimsheets then that's great.
what if having ideas is harder than programming and making art etc and using AI is actually still being more genius than me because i've been sitting here thinking of ideas for a week and every one is bad.
>>576411435erhmmm did you just heckin do a toxicity in the biteme games discordorino? only i get to be toxic (to other people's games), BANNED!
>>576411289>what's it like being an artist It's cool. Cooler than almost anything else in life.>you don't feel euphoria from doing something smartThat's your biggest problem rotate. You feel great about yourself for being able to program something that was already programmed by a million people a thousand different ways over the past 20 years. You are so high on yourself feeling "smart" for being able to program.I'm a professional programmer, I was paid to program. I also make tons of assets myself, so I'm an artist. I'm both of those things and I never feel euphoria because those are just skillsets that I am expected to have as a solodev.
Hmmm guys whose cock is tastier? Marnix or Brush? I love talking about game development.
>>576412107>i've been sitting here thinking of ideas for a week and every one is badWhat if you made a metroidvania where you play as a little girl who uses magic to fight skeletons and other monsters?
>>576409582Anyone? I am a desperate, noob, and poor. I only eat eggs these days for brain health, nothing else. please tell me the tools, and a rough grand plan how to draw well.
Hi everyone, thanks for all the feedback on my last post! I've been working hard on the core loop of Voxeria. I've also redesigned the whole UI. Please ignore the textures I will change them soon to 32 x 32 px art. Try it out: https://paco-interactive.itch.io/voxeria
>>576411435Marnix has the plot lost kek
>>576412483You really can't compare Thomas Brush to Bitemegames. He's a juggernaut compared to them. He could make a better game in 1 week than anything they have made, but that's reasonable because he is so much more experienced.Now Branno? He's the real chad. Healed to Death was brilliant and he soloed it, it's extremely complex mechanically. And he does all of this while having a job.I know you're just being a little bitch because "ecelebs" are mentioned btw nobody cares. You have no game.
>>576412872Branno posted here for ages, he's not comparable to the other grifting lying soulless ghouls whose dicks are in your mouth son.
>>576413140Bitemegames has mentioned this thread numerous times, so you're wrong.>he's not comparableIs he a gamedev on youtube? That's an eceleb. We cry about them and throw tantrums whenever they are mentioned around here son. Get with the program.Also stop obsessing about having penises in your mouth. This is a game development thread. You have no game.
>>576412685There's no easy path. You're going to have to do it the hard way, like everyone else that's ever wanted to draw: painstaking practice over the course of a couple of years with constant focus on what you're doing wrong and how to improve it.
>>576413617>Bitemegames has mentioned this thread numerous times, so you're wrong.>mentionedWhy are you gae? Stop sucking so much e-celeb cock bro. Branno literally posted progress and progress and was actually here. Does Marnix let you finger his asshole or something why are you defending him so much? Are you him?
>>576413762I see you didn't read the whole post.>stop obsessing about having penises in your mouth. This is a game development thread. You have no game.
>>576414021Concession accepted
Kind of want to make a spiritual successor to something like parasite eve since that game series has long since been dead but its feel/vibe seems to be rare
I love when some perma nodev who has never and will never make a videogame thinks they can tell the game development thread what they are allowed to discuss.
>>576412107>what if having ideas is hardTRVTH NVKE.it doesn't matter if you're vibecoding or handcrafting every asset and line of code. if you have bad ideas and bad taste your game won't be successful. vibecoding just lowered the bar. the fact that vibecoded games look like shit says more about the average person than it does about """AI""".
AI agents are magic chuddies.Now finally I can make my dream idea of a shota pokemon waifu harem isekai rpg roguelike.chuds BTFO.
>lmao it was actually Marnix and hes seething now
>>576414083Concession to what? You throw actual crying baby tantrums whenever gamedevs from youtube are mentioned. Every post you make has some kind of homosexual self hating rage element to it. And you have never made and will never make a videogame.
>>576414448Stop shilling your fucking YouTube channel here Marnix you fucking grifter
>>576414224didnt you give up like a couple of hours ago
>>576414224y are they children cris
>>576414519and?>>576414554It's emulating japanese games.
>>576414265>I bet this anon is actually Marnix roasting me omg I am so excited Yeah that whole thing about everyone sucking eceleb dick is 100% projection. This is a gamedev thread for gamedevs. You should find somewhere else to spend your life.
>>576414167In terms of vibe, yeah it's rare, but in terms of gameplay there are a bunch of clones now.
how did I not realize before that it was Marnix all along, it's obvious in hindsight he would be the one to benefit the most from shilling here
>>576414512nobody has linked to anything.There is no "marnix" youtube channel either, we're not even mentioning the real channel.>SH-SHILLING You're pathetic lmaoI mean obviously. You're jealous of strangers on the internet being mentioned by other strangers on the internet. And you spend your life in a gamedev thread when you have never and will never make a videogame.
>who would go through such lengths to defend my poor favorite e-celebs!!
>>576414784>in terms of gameplay there are a bunch of clones nowI know a couple, Wicked Seed is one but it's pretty rough around the edges. Combat's fun though
>>576414835>jealous of strangers on the internet being mentioned by other strangers on the internet>has no gameAre ya winning son?
>>576408054isn't it the golden hour for ideas guys? you just put $200 into claude and tell it to do everything
>>576414942>the real channelMarnix the jig is up
>>576415245see >>576414673
>>576415423Ah sorry I thought this was the thread for trying to shovel as much shit onto Steam as possible, my bad.
>>576415525See >>576415089
>>576415080Here's a couple others, you've probably heard about them too but it doesn't hurt to be comprehensive. There's also a couple of Parasite Eve 2 clones out there.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3983000/Parasite_Mutant/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3014650/45_PARABELLUM_BLOODHOUND__Cyberpunk_Active_Time_Action/
>This is a gamedev thread for gamedevs. You should find somewhere else to spend your life.Someone already told him this 10 years ago. And he never did.
>>576415423>>576415724>>576415904samefag, but glad to know Marnix is posting here shilling his garbage
>>576416038>samefagYour prize is in the mail.You've wasted your life trying to influence and police this general while making zero games btw. GratzYWNBAGD
>guys look this anon roasting me is probably samefagNot only are a failure at gamedev, you're a failure at using 4chan. Keep having melties about ecelebs. A fitting past time for a nobody.
>>576416191Who would be obsessed with the quantity of games instead of quality of games other than Marnix from ShitMyGames?
>>576416038If i have to choose between Marnix and a nodev I choose Marnix
>>576415525>>576416038>>576416581You have no game.
>>576412107>>576414208stacking up trvth nvkes over here
>>576415882Yeah they're definitely use the PE battle system, both seem to have a feel of ghost in the shell to me though from what I see. Could leave an opening up for me and since I'm designing a pre-rendered background system that could also distinguish my game as well
>>576416594This. I'm happy to hear about pretty much any gamedev who actually makes games. The worst element to this general has always been the creatures who never make games but spend their life here imagining they own the place and can have melties about us discussing "forbidden" gamedevs or something. It's grotesque.
>Marnix and his BiteMeGames employees and Discord friends jerking each other off
melties about ai are wholesome tho
>>576411357>>576412483>>576413140You have no game.
>>576417196Did you make a game with AI yet?Gamedevs noticing that you're a slop tard with no game isn't exactly a meltie.
Post game, you won't so stop with the whole shilling for e-celeb cock
everyone is using AI for dev, there is no market for some home grown for loops
>>576417398
>obsessed with mentioning "cock">meltying about ecelebs again>bringing up AI as if it's relevant to the discussionBad news everyone. The slopper is still here.
>>576417712Didn't see you post your game, you do have one right? Oh no, you're only consuming e-eceleb grift videos then posting their video links here pretending to discuss it expecting us to watch through their whole faggot show.Get fucked faggot. Nobody believes you.
Do vertex colors multiply albedo by default(typical application in engine)?
>>576417426>>576417617>>576417652>>576417870You have no game.
>>576416737>>576417227>>576417954Projection is hard I know.
>>576417878It can do whatever you want it to do. Its defined in the shader.
> you're only consuming e-eceleb grift videos then posting their video links hereTake your meds slopper. Nobody has posted any vids. We are allowed to by the way. We can discuss and post videos from any youtube gamedevs. They make games. You don't. They belong here. You don't. They matter and have something to offer the world. You? Well you get the picture. You don'tShame to see you're still hanging around btw. Posting from your phone now that your ISP called your parents and cut you off huh?
>>576418102True, that's why I'm not projecting. I have a game.You don't and never will. You know this of course. Hence the continued melties.
>>576418174Yeah listen, I know. I just want the typical application. I think it's mult and you paint shadows.
>>576418176>Nobody has posted any vids.>We are allowed to by the way.>That didn't happen.>And if it did, it wasn't that bad.>And if it was, that's not a big deal.>And if it is, that's not my fault.>And if it was, I didn't mean it.>And if I did, you deserved it.
>>576418102>>576417652brown
>>576370107that requires good 3d art skills.t. played that game a few weeks ago, most of you do not have the required skillset>>576375643neat>>576375849sady this, ive been unemployed too long. most jobs outright ignore me. there's one decent paying one i applied to recently and the only reason im likely to get an interview is because i know how their application/interview process works. as for actually getting the job the odds are abysmal. why hire the guy with a resume showing no dates of working in the last 5? not sure i want to go to the interview i'm expecting to get knowing the outcome is likely a rejection. plus idk if i even want the job since it might be one of those stringent ones that demands you take the flu shot every year, no fucking thanks.
>>576418547Literally nobody has posted any videos in this thread. No ecelebs were linked to, nor any of their videos posted. We don't even say the name of their channels.You are a melt. And you will never be a game developer. So leave, and don't come back. Nobody will miss you. Sound familiar? The speech your parents gave you on your birthday.
>>576418453Typical according to who or what style? Even within console generations it would do wildly different things. I'd argue there is no typical.
Why does the slopper believe discussing gamedevs in the gamedev thread is against the rules here or something? Keep in mind he has been dodging bans to ruin 4chan generals for years.
>>576418707>most of you do not have the required skillset>ive been unemployed too long
>>576417196>>576417652uh oh meltie
>cris is posting his game in the vibeSLOP general in /g/ now It's over.
>>576419548and how do you know this?
>>576419603I looked at it with my eyes.
>>576419548He correctly recognized that is the superior thread.
>>576419143those are two different things anon.
>>576418818even if you exclude terrain blending and pure vertex color artstyle(since I mentioned albedo, but what I truly meant was texture albedo)I can accept that but most applications I've seen so far have been shadows.(SH flashlight as an exception)
>>576420137It is great to see the slopper getting destroyed in his own thread yeah>>>/g/109460316>>>/g/109460358lmaooooo
>>576420161Its outwardly negative attitude I find humorous. Thought that was obvious my bad.
>>576420267aijeet will never ever ever recover from this
>>576420286oh kek, nvm then
>>576418547>That didn't happen.>And if it didIt didn't though. You're an actual retard who has tantrums about people discussing gamedevs in the gamedev thread. Stop posting on this website for one day. You can't.
Its SO OVERFagoon got caught samefagging AGAIN and tried to play it off like he wasn't. How obvious can he be?
>>576421054I farted on you.
I fucking hate bitwise operators, but I am starting to get the hang of it.Description,>Rotate the contents of register A to the right. That is, the contents of bit 7 are copied to bit 6, and the previous contents of bit 6 (before the copy) are copied to bit 5. The same operation is repeated in sequence for the rest of the register. The contents of bit 0 are placed in both the CY flag and bit 7 of register A.My implementation,>bool bit_0 = (A & 0x01) == 0x01;>A = A >> 1 | (bit_0 << 7);>set_flag_z(0);>set_flag_n(0);>set_flag_h(0);>set_flag_c(bit_0);>total_cycles += 1;There's so many of these.
>>576421249>>576421321Stop posting for one day. You can't.
which /agdg/ dev is weak to kisses?
>>576421645i have no weakness.
>/v/ thread in 2026>still the same subhumans orbiting fygoon to ruin the thread about him>agdg still has slopperFeels better everyday to not post my game on this gay af dead website full of subhuman autists. Rest in PISS
>>576421645I know one weak to anal (you, now, not optional)
the sheer masochistic cuckery, to post every day in a place you supposedly hate
>>576421645i look like this and say this
>>576422737Projection. I take long breaks everytime the slopper mass reports me to get me banned. It's a sweet deal. And yesterday I wasn't even banned but still decided not to post because seriously just look at this place. 4chan used to be ironically bad but now it's just depressing.Later lil cvck
>>576422474>subhumans>fygoon>thread about him>>576423123You are Fygoon.
guys. when you link to /g/ i post in there by accident because I can't tell these threads apart anymore. it's all AI
>>576423750that's why everyone is moving over there
>>576423750>it's all AIapplies to so many things these days
I wish we could go back to a time when AI didn't exist and I had a job and a girlfriend and hope for the future
Is that ok if I post progress but don't read answers. I work best when ignoring the world around to a degree but maybe you guys would like my project for demo days.Not my first trip on AGDG.Also the captchas are actually insane.
Our team just released our first full announcement about EXCEL RAYNE X - our BYOND x Unity project.>>>/v/744687252The announcement contains a link to an entire unfinished prequel story with 50 hours of content. The unfinished game in question here was heavily inspired by the Souls games and has Souls style multiplayer.But since the hub was removed, the only way to access multiplayer in the game is through the BYOND pager system, dooming the game to single player status.Excel Rayne X is targeting a BYOND release initially as well as exploring a possible Steam release.Our announcement is essentially "Here's a free game just for listening to this announcement. We're not going to hide a parallel dimension from you, we're going to be transparent about it. Good day".
>>576424750its too late for you I saw your post on /x/ defending hinduism
>>576424750Never seen you faggots around, beat it beatnik
>>576425392They should've made a YouTube channel first indeed.
>>576424908you mean buddhism?>>576425392i've been posting on here about the game's development before. you just glazed over the pose, lol.>>576425509maybe when the game has something to show.
filtered
>>576412107>ideai had onei'm making a game where when you die you die in real life it'll be the first one ever and i'll test it on myself before i release it. because I'M A NO GOOD. IDEA NOT HAVING TRANNY
ai chads do not claim the schizojeet
Local male seeks attention of a TRUE and HONEST 3D MODELER for the the purpose of ROOM MAKING! Inquire within
>>576425957based
>>576389262>WOULD U DER DA DER DA DER ONE-SHOT AI THINGY?Go away one-shot brain. One-shot slop rent free in your god damn heads. This is a THOUSAND SHOT ZONE, you one-shot dite. You can only conceive of AI as the Sole Creator of things because you're a passive homosexual and everything external to you takes on a Daddy role. AI is a partner to true creatives. "Curation is creation" is beyond your comprehension.
>>576426535AI will also be better than you at whatever you think your contribution could be. name one thing you will contribute to your game and AI is already probably better than you at it
I like Fygoon. He's my hero. I can't believe he quoted me on the /v/ thread today.And honestly? It felt pretty good being noticed by my senpai ^.^
>>576426908sorry chud, this cope has been debunked by expertshttps://www.seangoedecke.com/llms-reward-expertise/
>>576427078>just click on this link so I can deploy a no-click zero day to your computernot today, satan
okay, time to put my 3D skills into practicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LahDiOt0rH0
>>576426913I look like this. And i say this.UWUOOOOHHH FYGOOOOOOOOOOOOON
>>576426908a game about analyzing individual characters in words
Where can I get textures? Legally, can I use these old ass texture CDs for a more soulful look?
>>576337269incremental games are the current meta
>>576426913Based. Were you the anon pretending to be Fygoon? Honestly, I think it's pretty sick that people will pick up the torch whenever he's banned or busy.
I don't feel like doing anything today...
>>576432002You should just rest. Gamedevving is exhausting.
I bet it's the pedos who are anti-ai
You retards should talk and games instead.What do you think of big walk? I don't personally like the style but it looks like you can just make anything with multiplayer and people will eat it up
feels good not being anti ai like linus torvalds. i'm intelligent enough to understand.
a catalyst for profound reinvention among geniuses such as myself is here. an innovation scene, making things ai never heard of.
>>576429924take photos. resize photo to 128*128
i have met one agdger in person. small world.
>>576432002becky...
my mom told me to stand up and exercise... she does not understand that I'm devving all day...
>>576434862exercise is bad for your bodywatch goatis on yt for more anti-illuminati content
>we should talk about games>so how about that latest barely-a-game slop eh?classic
>>576429924You can either take photos or just use AI and then resize it/apply some filters if you are worried it would look too much like AI slop.
>>576432002Set smaller goals for yourself.
>>576437389sakura's side chick that i forgot the name of....
>>576432002>>576432410You stupid fucking faggot, gamedev is the ONLY thing you should be doing with your time outside of basic survival. Work your full-time job, clone your git repo on your work laptop if you can and just work on it during your downtime.Come home, put your heart and soul into your game, and keep working on it until you're ready to pass out.If you get burn out, you're a subhuman piece of shit because game development is the reason we were put on this earth. You should kill yourself for even thinking about taking a break from gamedev. Not even being edgy or ironic. Fucking do it. Put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger if you're seriously thinking that you don't want to make your game today.
>>576438363>7 days before anon burns out and forgets he said this
>codex/claude etc still nigh useless for advanced realtime physics simsi quit see you guys in 5 years
>>576438638yeah bro the models can solve new frontiers of math but can't copy a paper on fluid dynamics
>>576438638>physics simshave you tried asking it to make good games?
Read thread, so many variations now of>me use claude>it workand>it no workHow do we purge this filth from the gamedev general? Do they think this is what gamedev is? Self reporting for trying (and failing) to make slop with the slop machine? These are just nodevs who have found a way to convince themself they are making something. A worse, more stinky and useless kind of nodev. And most have been stuck here for years and years before AI was even a thing.
>>576438363Motivation is invisible, so it's impossible to measure reliably. You remind me of underaged gymgoers who plan to workout everyday, simply rejecting DOMS ontologically, as though discipline alone can magically rewire one's body.
>>576439095>How do we purge this filth from the gamedev general?by filtering all ai models by nameit's always the same troll who brings up ai because his goal is to derail this thread with ai discussions (he is doing the same thing on /g/)
Ugh, fine. I will try to make some proggy today...
>>576439249>by filtering all ai models by nameThat would actually work. Because the thing about sloppers is they are actually proud to be using AI. They feel technically savvy for typing text into a prompt and feel the need to report what model they are pretending to use to pretend to make games. Sloppers are the most trendy pathetic blabber mouths on the internet these days.
>>576439107You don't need motivation, you need to rethink your purpose.It's my personal philosophy that video games are the only thing that matter in this world. Survival is only meant to serve development of video games. For the past 7 months, I have spent about 12 hours a day developing my game engine, only reluctantly taking occasional breaks due to social obligations from family.I haven't played a video game in over a year. I live on a diet of boiled eggs and rice. I sleep from 11pm to 5am and I wake up, work on my game engine, go to work, and then come home to continue working on my engine. I don't care if I feel burned out, because game development is the only thing that matters.
>slop>slop>slop>slopbroken brain, change the record, no one gives a shit about your memeword
>>576438363BASED
>>576439570just the tiniest proggers is better than nothing, becky-chan.
>>576439773>slop>slop>slop>slopAll I see everytime a slopper namedrops claude
>>576439773the 2020s will be remembered as the slop era and there's nothing you can do about it
>nobody cares about your memeword ;_; Don't cry slopper, it'll be okay. AI SLOP has been called SLOP for 3 years now. You still not used to it? Toughen up. Using AI? You're making slop.Your game will always be referred to as SLOP. Because AI slop is trash. Filth. Noise. Garbage.SLOP
>>576439107Some just don't have the drive
>"why is the ai spammer spamming?">*proceeds to feed him 3 responses*le sigh, newfags amirite?you retards deserve everything coming your way if you can't just hide or ignore protip: trolls feed off of negative attention
>>576439962This. And soon AI will be refined and used by the proper audience. And so it will be less noticeable as slop and won't be called that.We will always look back and chuckle at all the legions of sloppers who eagerly thought they could use these current models to SLOP up the market with SLOP trash to make money. They're simply greedy, stupid and trying to make quick money with shortcuts. They deserve to be laughed at and their "work" will always foreverbe known as SLOPFeels good to not be one of them.
only slop is the brains of anyone who thinks AI is going anywhere but improving every week
>>576439249>it's always the same troll who brings up aiUnfortunately not always true. Betz was promoting AI in his discord. Bokudev was asking sloppers to run his screenshots through an AI filter to "make it better". Slop fiends are everywhere these days. Filtering themself.
what is your end game in getting mad at ai, people are going to keep using it and they don't need your "permission"
>>576401648HOLY TRVKE
>>576440739Slop argument. AI will certainly improve. But right now it's a joke and everyone using it to make slop is being laughed at. AI slop is the funniest and worst thing to ever happen to the internet. People HATE it. Youtube is getting ready to start pulling AI SLOP from their servers. They let you use the tool so they could train their AI and now that the userbase is so sick of seeing slop they are going to flush it down the toilet where it belongs.
>>576440975itll collapse and be forgotten by summer 2027
>>576441227people can already run amazing local ai tools and don't even need SAAS, it's truly over for you anti-ai retards, it will NEVER go away
>>576441313you'll get bored of it when you realize its "good, but not good enough"
>>576441313problem with local ai is you need two GPUs. I only have one GPU and a simple japanese local ai system brings my computer to a standstill>>576429924>Where can I get textures?just ask chatgpt, lol.
>>576441313>people can already run amazing local ai toolsYou don't though. And if you did (you can't) you would only ever come here and tell us about it like we care (we don't). And you will never actually make a videogame with it.So really just ask yourself. What are you even doing? Sloppers do nothing. Make nothing. Are nothing.
>ai tards have to team up with pedos and jeets to wingrim...
>>576441559the only anti-ai posters are the pedos retard, oh sorry, "loli enthusiasts"
>>576440975>what is your end game in getting mad at aiSloppers are a joke and you will always be a joke. Jokes are for laughing at. Nobody is mad.See years ago you told yourself a lie, that AI was going to "replace" everyone. It didn't. You thought it was going to make everyone mad. It didn't. It just annoys people and they avoid it and laugh at it for being slop. You wanted us to lose our jobs. To be replaced as gamedevs. It never happened.You are the one who is mad.
>>576442078but most loliposters here use ai?
>>576440893>Betz>Bokudev>AI
Years ago sloppers thought they were going to be rich by shoveling slop onto steam. Instead they kind of just sat around for years telling everyone they were going to be replaced and left behind and blah blah. Years later maybe some of them actually pushed some slop onto Steam. It flopped. The rest didn't even get that far.What a bunch of stupid assholes lmao
>>576441559>no games released>years of nothing but shitposts and attention seeking with fake games that go nowhereWin what?
>>576442718we should start assfucking them when they show themselves
every big company is using "slop" everywhere, it's already over, ""slop"" has completely won, all the biggest companies in the world are "slop".Every game has "slop" code, "slop" art properly hidden and "slop" video/audio is soon
>>576443018>my slop is just like all this other stuff that real gamedevs and real companies useNope. See you're just doing the same thing Joshua does to cope, insisting that all games are now made with AI but are doing it secretly or something. Even if that's true(it's not)... where is YOUR game?
>Guys I use a computer and so do big companies and game studios okay? So I'm basically the same as IBM and AT&T and Eric Barone okay? We all use computers. You're just anti-computers. And you're PEDOPHILES okay? The absolute state of slopper cope in 2026.
>>576441313Localcels are genuinely delusional, they still probably think that LLMs are about as good as Gemini 3.0 pro or something. Yes, there are open source Fable-tier or Opus 5-tier or GPT Sol-tier models like Kimi K3, but you cant run these on any consumer hardware out there, those are trillion parameter models that you need fuckton of hardware, so unless you are running a company worth more then million dollars there is no reason or way for you to run it.
>>576438638Classic slopper progress post right here.
>>576442718There are few success stories, like that lumberjack incremental game, and bunch of games on Itch, that Femboy Roommate VN with the most obvious AI art is at the top of the site one of the most downloaded games there with huge Patron earnings. Nothing compared to small studio success story but still better then 99% of chuds here.
>>576442341All trash.
gamedev tech showcases used to really impress me. like woah! look at that snow! how can we impress someone now that it's assumed AI did the programming?
>>576444328>now that it's assumed AI did the programmingThe only people who assume all programming is AI generated are sloppers who never learned to program. Nobody else cares or has any incentive to believe that retarded cope. Especially real programmers, who already know you have to implement numerous unique features in a videogame.
>look at vibecoding general in /g/>first 20 posts they're all just talking about spending money and tinkering on stupid shit >not clear about what exactly they are even doingSloppers are honestly disgusting and sad to observe from a distance. Just my casual observation.
>>576445676wow its just like the first 20 posts in this thread
>>576445794Yeah because sloppers are so desperate to be relevant here they literally wait until the thread starts to spam it with their gay forced conversations. Then they all disappear because they're not actually gamedevs and have nothing to discuss.
One day of work with AI agents.And already got a pretty advanced functional demo in 10 hours.really happy with this.:D
>>576445676>>576445794>>576446057Some of it is bots. Bots trying to normalize throwing away money on subscription LLM services by casually discussing spending money on it, they do it here and in the /g/ vibecoding thread. You can distinctly tell that these are not actual gamedevs on 4chan having organic conversations. Sloppers and bots. It's all very satanic. Fuck'em all. Game dev is for children of God.
>>576446116https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R57BVDJElPkforgot youtube link.
i need to tear up the unreal engine source code to do what i need to do with in built avoidance (because why the fuck would I want to reimplement RVO?) but i just can't be fucked to. feels game dev man.
>>576446417Hey. /agdg/ From a distance do theses doors read as doors in a locked and unlocked state?
>>576446779no
>>576446858Why not, I'd like to hear why. Not enough green/red too much green/red, location of the green/red.No anon left behind after all.
>>576403328>>576403764It's still here unfortunately.>>>/g/109464236Making numerous posts in that thread that IT usually makes here. I'm done referring to IT as "he" because it's more likely the spammer is a bot.
>>576447270they are both the same color... oh.
>>576447270>No anon left behind after all.That made me chuckle.
>>576446779anything can read as anything you want it to, the trick is to condition the player on expectations and results. if you don't do any obvious handheld conditioning on "red = locked but can be turned to green = unlocked" then expect it to just read as arbitrary door greebles.
>>576447491Oh, you're colour blind. Well, that explains the confusion. I'll add a visual indicator too so it doesn't rely on colour alone.What do you prefer?>Padlock icon>Bar across the door>Large clamp
>it works
>>576447491
>>576448183an X bar across the whole door, a contrasting one(dark/black metal or such) that clamps in the middle, and slides/retracts when unlocking
>>576448829*i guess middle left of your examples, but more obvious X/clamp smaller
Page 10 huh.
a faucian tale?
>>576454190Why my nigga pepe there
>>576448591kill all lolis and pedos
>>576391862did you just learn what video games are?
>>576445676A thing you have to understand about vibe coders as opposed to regular devs or anybody who does anything is that they are well aware that their craft is only worth the amount of cash they spend on tokens which is usually not much, so they never try to share ideas with others because they know that the idea is the only moat for vibecoders. When a vibecoder hears someone does something amazing they dont say "an, cool" and maybe become fans, they will try to copy them and their success because while for others ideas are cheap and actions are expensive, for vibecoders ideas are everything and actions are cheap.
Progress!Made 2/10 of the UI!Nobody needs a mouse anyways...Keyboards way to go!What do you think?
anyone just upload a demo to steam and not do the rounds shouting into the void?
>>576457357What is it for? I like wireframes...
>>576457461eh- this is just a background skybox. i just swapped the default to the unity wireframe thing (SpatialMappingWireframe material). Nothing special. I just found that and did it.The program itself is supposed to become some sort of world you walk around, partly the usual, partly unusual, but, while being 3d and so on, -without interactive UI besides button toggles -in some sort of scripted world instead of any sort of gameobjects. the whole unity project is literally just one scene, the default camera and light, and one script attached to it. i will never add anything else, the script will create all assets (though there wont be a need for assets) (thats the idea)i dont intend to hyping/promising more until i progress more, else i would perhaps overpromise again
my camp is becoming a townand i spent most of the fixing a YUGE rendering issue. everything is smooth now.
>>576457934follow your dreams but don't worry too much about overpromising, i don't think this one's gonna be getting much attention regardless
>>576458610most of the day*
>>576458742its gonna be when i explode it from basic ui into the level editor and 3d world, right?"mine is not like others""i can make it have more soul then all others combined""this will be much more alive and simulated, instead of hollow worlds like minecraft or vampire survivors"
>>576458610what kinda game?
should i engage with other's posts to pay them back for replying to mine?
>learning 2D art>it's just doing 3D on paper
>>576459253yesfrom people i've spoken to, some people who become modelers find doing 3D easier to do than drawing because the program does the 3D part for you instead of having to do it in their own heads for 2D art
>>576459032RPG with grinding loops. the server supports multiplayer but i haven't stress tested it. still experimenting with mechanics and controls. right now i'm considering something like a mix of WoW and project zomboid. WASD to move, hold rmb to look/aim, but also click to move/pick stuff up and interact with the world.
>sent ign and indie games hub my trailer>trailer file now has 15 opensbros... maybe this time
>>576459092yeah. keep the agdg spirit alive.
>>576457357added 3 more UI backgrounds, to display text during the game. The free space will be the player screen.Marked in different colors here so you can see the differenceNow i only have to add a text for each one, andthen i can start doing the world creation voids
I feel like I've gone off the autism deepend.>want to make navigation work with units that have different radiuses>decompose map into bounding boxes>decompose that into minimal non-overlapping geometry>calculate all portals (intersections), and unportals for pathfinding>occurs to me that decomposition is weird, and I need to make sure the target location is within the mesh, rather than a decomposed cell>but if you click too close to an edge it shouldn't just do nothing>draw line from target location to nearest unportal, project backwards along that until we have the required clearance, check again (2-3 times max)>now, I can finally begin working on my pathfindingI spent a whole day pre-resolving edge cases instead of making something work...
>>576461969>combining ai and portals>spending time on "learning by stressing" instead of figuring it out while doing thingsis this a bunch of mistakes?
>>576459450Yup that's exactly how I feel about it
>>576331592Added a pixel editor, one can edit textures and animations live while the game is running. Useful for touch ups without having to alt-tab then export and reimport.
https://x.com/pcgamer/status/2084756663366787507
>>576332065My game's MC had sex with his wife
>>576467890
>>576448591>it doesn't works
>>576457245Legendary projection.
why does kanna do this
>>>/s4s/13106778
>>576468894love
>>576412107Executing on a good idea is the hard part. AI won't be able to make up the difference there. At best it will do what you tell it to do if you describe things well enough so you need to know what you want. If you couldn't make a good game without AI you won't be able to make one with AI.
anyone know a some good threads with reaction images?I need some fodder for my game.
I wonder how many problems in this general can be solved with love.
>>576471325Well love is based on LUA which is turing-complete so you should be able to solve any gamedev problems with it except those that require very high computational performance.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4547970/Pih_2//ourguy/ released another masterpiece you can seethe over
>too horny to dev
>>576471325shut up stupid baka nodev idiot post youre game you will never make it you will never love me you won't even hold me
/agdg/ \mvp\code up, kings, it's time for art
I know I said no more sweets but I have the perfect excuse today: I'm a weak willed gluttonous piece of shit who's got only himself to blame for his situation. And the heat is brutal so I needed a sort of a counterweight to the hellishness of my existence.86 days left, I owe 2100 minutes of work. Today I'm going to be working on explosions and try to make them look less shitty. That's it, that's the plan.
>game doesn't just have homosexual relationships, it forces you to actively participate in themwhy are they like this
>>576474540I'm going to do this because gamers are faggots
>>576474540yeah but have you considered>game doesn't just have homosexual relationships, it forces you to actively participate in them:(>game doesn't just have homosexual relationships, it forces you to actively participate in them, yuri:D
>>576471985Gamers will go out and eat up the stinkiest slop in the world then go>How that make you feel devboi?
>I tired and then gave up
>>576474540It's hot
My gamedev motivational companion is now able to send motivational voice messages. Currently the voice system is pretty unstable but I'm working on breaking long text into sentences so that it can be a bit more stable. Next I will work on persistent memory so that it doesn't forget my progress.
so glad im not an npc so my gamedev motivational companion is a tulpa rather than 1s and 0s on a screen
>>576479351here is a boost king
>>576479351My gamedev companion can directly engage in 3+ people conversations with physical humans
>>576479596great, i'll contact you if i need background npcs talking to each other in my life
>>576479685It's pretty cool I tested the functionality with 2 companions I taught one of the companions how to send voice messages but not the other then I told the first one teach the second one how to send and they managed to do it all on their own
AI chads please is this real?
>>576480183Probably but I imagine it can be mitigated by breaking the cycle and training the AI with multiple people with differing view points
>>576477132This implies I'm one of the gamersheep but I'm a dev like you, I just find the seething hilarious.
Progress on animations for the wheelchair horror game, dude is looking cool but modelling and animation are hard.
>>576480739Nice
>>576480739I think you gotta go and start fresh and relearn everything.
>modelling and animation are hard.all you have to do is copy what you see nigga anyone can learn how to model and animate in a week
>>576481051Lets see your models and animations anon
>>576481179https://fygoon.com/characters.html
>>576481238Yeah I'm not clicking on that shit
>>576481345thought so crab
>>576480183Yes, anyone who cannot hold dense chains of logic should not be using AI. Half of every prompt I do is a correction.
>>576481051God I wish I had a cute little daughter who will hug me and give her strong and rich successful GMI papa many kisses.It's not fucking fair.
>>576482971Make a game where you have one
god i wish i had a dad who would buy me a ballpit to sit in
god I wish I had an adult human girlfriend
>>576483346Make a game where you have one
>adultick
>>576477094I have yuri fatigue. Its been the norm for the past eleven years. Its to the point where you see an attractive woman and you're like>Okay where's her girlfriend
>>576479351fuckin weirdo you should keep a gamedev sock puppet monkey like i do
>>576483429It's hit or miss.My ex hated my games and that I spent so much time devving instead of doing dumb shit with her.My current gf supports me and playtests my games.Just gotta find the right girl.
>>576483920what fucking games do you play to see yuri everywhere it's rare especially if we disqualify ugly lesbian slop
My game will have yuri.
how do I make it?
>>576483920Just play Chinese games, they strongly censor lesbians
>>576484664stop jerking off, seriouslyno not cause no fap will turn you into an alpha male sigma batman, but because it wastes time and it a human's favorite way to waste time.that's all it takes, stoping the one bad habit that stymies everything else
>>576484664The key is not to make a ton of changes all at once, because then you won't stick to any of them.I was an out of shape, loser, stoner for a while.I kept trying to fix everything at once and it wouldn't work, but once I started tackling one problem at a time the changes started sticking.First I quit weed, then I started working out, then I started eating healthy, then I started putting more effort into my job, and once all that other stuff was in line I had the confidence to start dating too.
>see a cool material in a game>open up RenderDoc>dump the frame and give the file to AI>AI gives me a perfect 1-to-1 reverse engineer of the materialYou are using AI as a game dev, righr?
>>576485183For motivation but not for the work itself
>>576479351AI is just a tulpa that is actually real
this kid looks kinda like fygoon
I have to animate a flesh golem. a golem made of random body partsIm doing 2D animation so its a fucking pain to draw this one in particular and get the animations rightso many parts
the different games are also multiplayer so you can play them together
>>576488016Nice, I love functional PCs in games. Those visual are really nostalgic too, for me the snake game in particular.
>>576488016speed up the fake boot time, but have the desktop taskbar render first, and delay the icons loading by a bit.
>>576487104fagtroon is six gorillion times more of a muttified mongrel freak with disgusting greyish orc skin but a height smaller than a hobbit.
>>576474046>falling for temptationwell, i guess you are admitting it>falling for it without rejecting it as much as possiblepoor you, it's possible to free yourself, even if most addicts dont recover>>576484664>make family proudhello, goyim department?>>576488016oiginal? the purpose and benefit? what does a person get from your game, ultimately?if the game consists of content similar to fall guys, isnt it like cruelty squad, something partially meaningless, just there to be looked at without benefit for the one falling for it?also, guys, what do you want me to do more? A world filled with simulated billions of human populations across stars, which are all constantly calculated, or a world filled with billions of aliens across stars, which are most-sort-of hostile to humans, and all players are humans in both of versions?also, i completed the text. time to make the world
I am so jealous of "Welcome to the Game"The game concept is so fucking good I wish I came up with it.
>>576488016UE5? If so tell the DOOM 3 Chad how you did the GUI.
>>576446779Oh, Just slap an X on it. Yup it's a wall.
>>576489067thanks, any more simple retro game ideas I could add? with multiplayer of course>>576490069good idea, I will make the boot time adjustable so you can use a computer with a cooler sleeker tower and it boot much faster, I like the taskbar and icons delay too.>>576490114>oiginal? the purpose and benefit? what does a person get from your game, ultimately?I have been working on this game engine/project/game thingo for a while now and it's just a muck around game with killing and online/LAN multiplayer, my friends and (7 of us) used to have a huge week-long LAN at least once a year for like 12 years, but we haven't done that since covid, one of my friends is getting married in febuary and we are having a LAN for 3 nights for his bucks party so I thought it would be funny if there was a game I made that we could play, I might even substitute the player models for models of us with our faces textured on) and durin the short simple co-op campaign there will be a room with 7 computers in it so we can play the games at a LAN in the game at the LAN, and kill each other and stuff, idk just making this for fun really.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdhMsJZuM3c
>>576490661*yawn*
>>576490438>defining an array to H4ck Th3 W04ld buy an ad
>>576490747more work than what a 'modern' programmer can be bothered with
>>576490802it's also sad that even fake h4cker games are getting worse because indie devs are even more out of touch with programming
>>576490662in this case, i dont say what you should do. But i think "trying to make it as high-ranking as possible" in some ways, would ruin your game a bit.Which you seem not to be doing.
>>576490662>thanks, any more simple retro game ideas I could add? with multiplayer of courseMissile Command but with 2 playersMinesweeper but with 2 playersThat's all I've got
I want to make a game about debugging anti-piracy systems in fictional video games.But I feel like Steam is not going to allow it.
>>576492489Just sell it not on steam
I think making your own game engine is the only way forward
>>576492683despite 99% of commercially successful games being written in premade engines ofc
>>576492683making your own game is like the biggest waste of time for a solo/indie dev. like why would you waste your time reinventing the wheel instead of actually making games? just to brag on reddit or the game engine thread?
modelling lizard head without an ortographic reference is surprisingly hard.(I look at google images)
>>576493440it seems like a fun technical project but is probably the least efficient thing you could do in terms of total dev time
>>576493440>hey guys check out my rogue-like incremental extraction-shooter demake!
>>576493440shit i meant game ENGINE
>launch demo>wishlisters are notified>wishlists go down as players are satisfied and remove the game>steam notices and buries my gamethis has never happened right? I'm just paranoid.
>>576495349why would players remove the game from the wishlist if they're satisfied?
>>576495349>oh no people are actually gonna play my game, it's so over :(you people really need to find a new hobby
>>576493761drawing the ref from different angles is a good skill to build. keep us posted on your lizard progress.
>>576495349So you limit the demo and make sure it isn't a satisfying game on it's own. It's taste. And maybe end it on a cliffhanger.
>>576495560the demo is generous. >>576495574I want MORE people to play. I'm mainly complaining about the steam algo.
>make sure it isn't a satisfying game on it's own.this is the indie game version of women telling their friends to get short hair
>>576495997If you need screenshake to trick yourself into thinking your game is good i have some very bad news for you.
>>576495829>And maybe end it on a cliffhanger.That would be funny. >you completed the incremental cpu builder demo...what's this?! you have a CHINESE SPY IN YOUR MIDST!? AND IT'S YOUR WIFE!!!!!
>>576495962>the demo is generous.I thought you meant satisfied like they're satisfied the game will be good. satiated is a better word to use. but releasing a demo is a double edged sword. it's not appropriate for all games. I'd say you should hint at the potential for much more fun in the full game.
>it's not appropriate for all gamesquit sabotaging other people with your garbage advice
>>576493761it might help to consider the loops that make up the face
>Programming up to WW2 was a female dominated job, before it became a men's job>TFW in a slightly different world where this trend never shifted I could be intermingling with very large groups of female game devs.
>>576496135I'm making an earthquake survival simulator
>>576496541>all games should have a demopatently false. games should have a demo only if it will help the game get sold more
>>576496948>>Programming up to WW2 was a female dominated job, before it became a men's jobMen filled out the punch cards, women carried them to be eval'd/compiled.They were essentially compiler/interpreter jannies
>>576496948you'd like to be getting rejected 10 times a day?
>>576497028If you are afraid of offering a sample, your product is probably garbage. You can apply this to art, food, consumer products, machines, services, etc.
>>576497124at least one of them has to give me a chance, statistically.
>>576495349>>576495829I see two possible ways of successful demosthe first offers just enough content that it isn't annoying that there's so little but it isn't too much that the player doesn't feel the need to see more hitting that sweetspot means they want to buy the game to play more showing too little might be better than showing too much because while it will annoy the player it should still leave them with a burn to play more if the game was interesting to them but too little could also lead to not getting that spark of interest for the player so they just forget about it after playingthe second offers so much of a good game that players just keep playing the demo and they buy the release because they wanna keep playing and want to support the development of the game the second one is risky if you don't have a very high quality game with a lot of contentthe first one is hard to hit just right but it is the approach most demos should take
>>576497028my wishlists 10x'ed after my demo was set to coming soon. idk if it will hold without releasing the demo soon tho.
>>576496948Get into sewing. they'll think you are gay, but that might work in your favor.
>>576496719I think this stage comes after getting down the shape of the face at all.
I'll probably change the mitts to proper claws later on because I never did but for now thats it.
>>576496948Get into learning natural languages. I found out that classes have a ton of women for some reason. It's almost like men don't care about talking to each other
>>576497162i'm not making a garbage single player only game, tard. it's online and there's no subscription so people can play freely from the start
>>576498152>>576498904the first head shape looked much better imo
>>576499221I modelled it after armadillo girdled since it's simpler
bocchidev met up with two other devs to have the time of her life>>>/s4s/13107999
See that mountain? You can climb it.
>>576498152>>576498904Why are you modeling by hand like a caveman
>>576501014climb it or just walk up it as if it wasn't even a minor inconvenience?
Current version of chatgippity is so fucking annoying. Why does it keep second guessing itself in every reply? >you should do this>no actually this is even better>no this version is even better do this
>>576501137nta but eye tracking is not good for modelling.
>>576501246Sounds like operator error. Why are you letting it steer?
>>576498152the loops make the shape look at that image you just posted and look at the loops, they don't represent the facial features so the head doesn't look like anything it's just a cone
>>576501246all ai's do that it's the biggest garbage about them. until that's fixed they'll be quite less reliable. but if that is somehow fixed to where they can actually remain on their own line without pandering to the fucking user it'll be swell
>>576497350Right. There are many considerations and subtleties to a proper demo, and I'm sure there are many different strategies people have taken. I should actually look more into what people typically do. My game for instance is based on turns. The game could probably be finished in like, 20 turns. Each turn is supposed to be meaningful. I was thinking to let the player have like, 4 turns, maybe 5 since the first turn literally nothing is going on. It would expose them to a lot of the mechanics, but it would be impossible to win, and they'd be able to see the deeper fun that is starting to develop each turn. I do worry that there's so many mechanics and not enough time to have fun, for it to be enjoyable. I'll have to think about it, how much to give.
>>576501209i had to do a lot of jumping. that counts as climbing, right?
>>576501246I like when it goes>one caveat, there could be an issue if X... but we did Y with X, so that's not a problem, we are covered.
>>576501560jumping counts. my favorite climbing in games is elderscrolls style jumping and finding geometric oddities that let me get over things I shouldn't
>>576501379I'm asking it for an implementation and it gives half a dozen answers. Or I'm asking for the full script from it's previous answer instead of the retarded piecemeal it reworked half a dozen times mid-reply. >>576501428At some point last year there was a version that didn't have this shit or at least it wasn't this bad. Currently it answers like a scatterbrained ADHD retard. It can barely even finish a thought before it moves onto the next one. >>576501639Yeah it actually had a good suggestion at the end which is why I asked it for the full script with the modifications it suggested and then it couldn't just give me that it kept modifying it in the same reply.
>>576497162>If you are afraid of offering a sample, your product is probably garbagesometimes you simply have to sell garbage. we can't all be successful gamedevs such as yourself. how many reviews so far btw?
>>576501639>>576501801Your game is poorly defined and you don't even know what it is you want
>>576501985>projectionwhat's your game?
>>576501985game development is a dynamic environment where things aren't written into stone
>>576502414visionlett. nodev
>>576501771this wasn't intentional, but with how my step tolerance is set you can climb basically anything by jumping.
>>576501985planning is for nerds. talented people do the deeds on the spot
>>576502589you're retarded, he's right. you can both be a visionary but also understand the simple fact that it is a dynamic environment you brainlet
>>576502813if they're making pong tier scope level games, sure retard
>>576501246I've been using it to rate my outfits. It always starts with : This actually works better than I expected! And ends it with One thing I've noticed about your wardrobe recently.....
>>576502858I was agreeing with him but I guess it came off odd. I should have said >inb4 visionlet
>>576502743now I will play your game
>>576503670>>576503670>>576503670
>>576497162has legend of zelda ever has a demo you could download of a mainline zelda game?
>>576347376the world needs nuclear winter and the public execution of politicians government officials, but we can't have that, so we settle for cozy.>>576347718hentai?
>>576504062yes, there was a timed demo of a few of them. but post release/success.
>>576374803almost all games are curses, the map design and storylines go hand in hand, like a ritual and spells, they are designed to bind the player to a curse.pokemonzeldahalo (every game after halo 1)etcalmost every game was a curse, halo 2 and onwards were disgined to undermine the original intent of halo 1, which was to raise the gamer, and free him from the "ring" (which is a symbol of bondage), 343 went through the process of rebinding the player and putting them under a heavier yoke.the same for zelda, every new series was a war against the self.links awakening? you had to destroy yourself to wake up (suicide programming)majoras mask? you declared a war against your shadow in order to prevent the moon (revelation) from manifestingoracle of ages? you undermined your future by subverting your past self, destroying your future self (you are ganon)pokemon?the map is your head, and you are traversing your head (this is why the psychic gym is in the center of the map (the center of the mind/head, i.e. 3rd eye), waging war against elements of yourself, in the end defeating your shadow/mirror selfin gen 1, pokemon blue you have the name options John, while in red its jack (both names mean john)while your name is ash and your rival (shadow) gary (spear, the weapon used to pierce Jesus on the cross, the same pierces your "soul" in pokemon, gen 1)my point being, that almost every game, especially those imported, or created by "special interest groups", have the primary purpose of injecting death into their player, making money is secondary, being a good/shitty game is tertiary (or last)so understand what they are actually doing, how they're doing it and why, and do your part in ensuring you aren't serving the kingdom of darkness by programming death, and damnation into your games.learn the source material they're using, and undo their works.-schizo, out
>>576405471same, but i'm too retarded to figure that shit out.i'm still stuck on "hello world\n";
>>576421645if you know a cute females (FtF) that are wiling to kiss me, i'm not, sorry, but as much as i like females, i like not being weak.i'll take a cute female (F) gf (F) that can give me motivation to work though (on making games)
>>576432002she a cute. (tranny poster notwithstanding)you have good taste anon, she deserves headpats.
>>576455352why would you kill children?
