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HEROku edition!

- Xenoverse 3 announced
- Xenoverse 2 final DLC is out
- Two anime series have been announced: DBS: Beerus (with Frieza teaser) and DBS: Galactic Patrol
- FighterZ new balance update is out
- Gekishin Squadra is out

• XENOVERSE 3 - GAMEPLAY FIRST LOOK
https://youtu.be/2WJ8irTIw7I

• XENOVERSE 2 - FUTURE SAGA CH4 LAUNCH TRAILER
https://youtu.be/DFWpzSFTJco

• SPARKING ZERO - SUPER LIMIT BREAKING NEO DLC SHOWCASE
https://youtu.be/-yVuL6K1oMI

• FIGHTERZ - GOKU SS4 DAIMA TRAILER
https://youtu.be/qTfxD54fMHs

• GEKISHIN SQUADRA - GOKU BLACK
https://youtu.be/x4ayJVx2ev8

• KAKAROT - DAIMA PT2 LAUNCH TRAILER
https://youtu.be/ZY6OAh_7KYw

>Useful links:
https://rentry.org/dft79

XV2 news:
>Future Saga Chapter 4 is out

SDBH News/Resources:
>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24
>SDBH Database: https://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/
>Deck Autism: https://rentry.org/sdbhdecklist

DBSDV news:
>The 11th set has released
>God Rares: SSB Goku, SSB Vegetto, Corrupted Zamasu, Beast Gohan, Orange Piccolo, Cell Max, Xeno Vegeta, SS3 Xeno Bardock
>Reflect Break Cards: SSG Goku, Ultimate Gohan, SSR Trunks, Piccolo, Whis
>Modes based on Goku Black and DBS Superhero arcs
>2nd Anniversary soon
>Card List: https://www.dbsdv.com/cardlist/?series=598010

>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:
steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21
DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefile
If you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.

Kakarot news:
>Daima DLC Pt2 launched on January 15th

The Breakers news:
>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider

>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry here
http://xenoverse.booru.org/

Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)
Thank you

LAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>575514431
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Secret character
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>>576332854
AAAAAIIIIIEEEE TORIYAMA-SENSEI DON'T LOOK
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>YOU HAVE GATHERED ALL SEVEN DRAGON BALLS
>STATE YOUR WISH
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>>576333087
i want a irl waifu
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>>576333087
Bring Toriyama back to life please
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>>576333087
Make Bejita real
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>>576333087
Gimme Pan waifu
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>>576333087
PUT AEOS IN EVERY DRAGON BALL GAME FROM NOW ON!
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>>576333127
>YOUR WISH HAS BEEN GRANTED

>FAREWELL

(Bond maxed with mexican transfem)
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>>576333087
I WANT AN XBOX!
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>>576333087
Sex with Kamin.
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>>576333087
Bulma as my wife
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>>576335094
That's a dingus
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>>576335094
holy
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What does /dbg/ think about Pedrotx's mods?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjY_hgA5b6Q
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>>576336330
Why does Sparking Zero do the cheek lines like that?
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>>576336330
I've been wondering; did FighterZ and people complaining about the expressions and comparing them to FighterZ convince the devs to expirement more with angles and model deformation, or were things like pic related always going to be in and just weren't due to time constraints?
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>>576332970
This is awesome, thank you for saving this until the next thread.
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>>576336330
I think they're amazing but the problem with him (and Riota) is that they do fan votes and DB fans are normies so it's ALWAYS going to be Saiyans. Actually scratch that, because it's literally just Goku, Vegeta their fusions and sometimes Gohan. No Broly, no Raditz, no Kefla.
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>>576332970
That's pretty kino actually.
>>576333087
Bring Toriyama back.
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So I got numbers about the journey Zamasu test pig. I hate it here, I fucking hate it here, why Chunsoft, fucking why? Why everything mortals?

>First Dance: Warning
If you enable limit breaker journey mode, that includes the level scaling so having a mixed team of journey and non-journey characters is tragedy. Noticed this when my Zamasu, with only 50 points in strike/blast did 68k to Tapion of a god slicer. Also you can't use the limit breaker journey characters in training mode so this required weak AI.
>Second Dance: Devastation
So my Zamasu has 50 points in strike/blast but has 750 points in defense, did 12k with a boosted god slicer onto my Zamasu. The same amount he did in the control group (training mode). Fucking how? Fucking why? I have a 15-to-1 investment towards damage reduction. And no, this isn't some weird block case, even blocking didn't produce noticeable differences.

Take this cursed info as you will, I'm going back to just playing basic offline battles instead of trying to peer deeper into shrodinger's roguelike because any more and I might sour on what's otherwise been a good DLC. I guess I know what I get to spend 5k characters complaining about if there's ever a survey for it.
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>>576333087
I wish for the Boss, Trunks, Troublemakers, and Fu to be in Xenoverse 3
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What? Why would he think he's dead?
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>>576340107
That's weird
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>>576340107
So what you are saying is that investing in DEF is worthless?
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>>576342134
Seems to be, I thought it was doing something during the journey mode but might've been a placebo, or just that outrageously minuscule (considering my Zamasu did have 50 points of attack/blast investment so he should've had a boosted baseline for damage that only equalized with 750 points of defense...). The defense buff from emoting with Great Saiyaman's battle art at least works but definitely not unlocking super armor via defense investment, likely a level scaling thing (punching way down SP wise).
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>>576341509
Yes, which doesn't make any sense considering he looked into Goku's future
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>>576341509
>>576342692
Not in the Minus/canon continuity he didn't
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>>576342795
He has even less of a reason to think Goku is dead in Minus
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>>576342972
He would have no way of knowing what would happen to him in the long run after he and Gine sent him to earth, so no, not really. For all he knew, Goku's ship could've been intercepted
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>>576342972
If it weren't for Gohan taking Kakarot in, Jaco would've killed him
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>>576343320
He literally sent it there because he knew it'd be safe and he and Gine literally watched it go without being intercepted
>>576343485
No, he wouldn't have because Jaco missed the ship due to being distracted.
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>>576343652
Read my post again
His mission was still to terminate the Saiyan.
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>>576343762
And he still failed his mission and left after missing the ship.
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>>576343823
So? It was still his mission, meaning Goku's safety was up in the air. Bardock would have no knowing for certainty what would become of Goku in the long run. Earth itself was practically a safe haven, but getting there safely and the possibility of someone else like Jaco posing a threat to him was still up in the air
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>>576343762
don't bother. it's Luigi. he loves to argue semantics. it's only a matter of time before he excuses you of samefagging.
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>>576344038
I don't who that is nor do I want to
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>>576344038
>random dumb claim
>This claim is wrong
>It is wrong but I won't bother because NINTENDO!!!
Kill yourself.
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>>576344178
see? Actual schizo
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>>576343976
>So?
So what you said is factually wrong. Goku wouldn't have been killed by Jaco regardless of Gohan.
>Earth itself was practically a safe haven,
So Bardock has no reason to assume he'd be dead.
>still up in the air
How the fuck does 'He had 0.0000000000001% chance of still dying somehow' somehow justify 'Bardock just assume he's dead despite literally sending him to the safest place possible'?
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>>576344275
We do see you being a retard and being mad when people react to you as such, yes.
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>>576344318
No, it isn't. Jaco still posed a threat to him. His ship was repaired, but because he hadn't seen Goku landed, he figured Goku never arrived. Meaning Goku's safety wasn't 100% guaranteed
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>People are legit wasting their time on the faggot who keep defending every nonsensical dub-only line in Sparking 0
Just ignore him.
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>>576344523
>We
>people
so I was right. it is Luigi.
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>>576341509
Maybe it's a mistranslation.

>>576342972
Best way to explain it is that sending him to another planet could be too dangerous. Gine was even worried about that, and I think Toriyama said in an interview they have low surivival chance? Even so, Bardock didn't expect him to die so the line is odd either way.
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>>576338036
>No Broly, no Raditz, no Kefla.
Holy shit I want a new Kefla so bad. Fighterz's kefla awakened something in me that no DB game has been able to replicate.XV2 failed, Sparking Zero failed, as good as Squadra's Kefla was she still couldn't compare, Legends half assed it and didn't even give her a new hair model so we'll probably have to wait for the synchro or ultra, and if the current XV3 models are anything to go by, it's going to be BARELY better than Legends
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>>576344568
>No, it isn't
Yes, it is. It is obviously, factually, ridiculously wrong. What did Gohan do that made Jaco miss Goku's ship? Nothing.
>Meaning some irrelevant nonsense
Cool so Bardock indeed has 0 reason to think Goku is dead and you were wrong.
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>>576344638
>Normal words were used?! While I was being told off for being retarded?! NINTENDO!!!!
Kill yourself. Now.
>>576344768
>and I think Toriyama said in an interview they have low surivival chance?
That was for Sky Childs who WERE supposed to wipe out the planet they were sent on, Goku was disguised as a Sky Child but really was just supposed to hide and maybe kill locals until Gine and Bardock picked him up.
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>>576344775
He would, as someone like Jaco could've killed him as was explained to you before or Frieza's men could have intercepted his ship for all he knew
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>>576344912
kek at Luigi going into meltdown mode the second his shitposting tactics are called out lol. why don't you do us all a favor and return to Twitter?
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>>576344768
>Maybe it's a mistranslation.
It is, which is why you have the usual sperg defending that nonsense with his life.
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>>576344630
>dub-only
>>576345020
>mistranslation
We're waiting for you to post the original Japanese line
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>>576344986
>us
Being the thread pariah is really getting to you and it shows. The anon you begged to let you back him rejecting you hit hard, didn't it?
Now fake laugh through the tears some more.
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>>576345069
he won't. Luigi will just continue his meltdown. Watch.
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>>576345124
more inane Luigi schizo babble
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>>576345069
>Spoonfeed me!
Put your game in Japanese, faggot.
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>>576345225
So, nothing. Gotcha. I'll accept that as a concession. This conversation is over
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>>576345154
>>576345223
The entire entire thread is watching you being mentally ill, don't worry little buddy.
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>>576336330
>been wanting this guy to get his hands on Sparking Zero since the Rivals trailer
>he finally does
>Xenoverse 3 comes out
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>>576345319
keep seething Luigi. you will never turn /dbg/ into /dbs/
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>>576345282
There was never any discussion, just you being forced to see the dub is shit and make no sense, which has been accomplished so you'll go to the corner to cope about it in silence until you feel brave about it and repeat the cycle.
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>>576345352
Xenoverse 3 looks amazing though
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>>576345514
amazingly trash.
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>>576345445
>/dbs/
You mean the place you got bullied out of? That you keep screaming about here? Cause you're mad you're not allowed back? Thus your constant attempts at thread lore dumping that get ignored?
>>576345514
I'm surprised by how good it looks honestly. I expect a XV 2.5 at best.
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>>576345590
we dont care about your /dbs/ schizo lore Luigi. you should go back there instead of trying to shit up the thread.
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>>576344926
>Something that didn't happen and that Bardock didn't even know about because the Galatic Patrol is unknown to the saiyans and Freeza Forces could have happen!
>For all he knew, this thing he literally saw didn't happen could have happened.
Okay so you admit you were wrong, especially about Gohan and Bardock assuming Goku is dead make no sense.
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>>576344638
His posting style is always so obvious, kek.
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>>576345680
>we
>No u!
I hit a nerve. Poor /dbs/ reject, he's so hurt at being rejected here too.
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>>576345514
It doesn't look bad at all. If it were 2018 and you told me Xenoverse 3 was coming out then what we have now is what I'd picture. But it doesn't really look like how I'd expect a 2027 DB game to look. I lowkey thought it was going to look as good as the first Age 1000 teaser.
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>>576345818
still crying because you were exposed lol? Luigi just crawl back to /dbs/ already
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>>576345881
>>576345797
>NO U!!!!
Come on, 70 more times and it'll finally work instead of exposing you're just mad you can't go back.
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>>576345797
be sure to call Luigi out every time. it disrupts his shitposting and has him go on full melty mode.
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>>576346010
so you confess you're from /dbs/ and take pride in it. yare yare Luigi you make it so easy
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>>576346015
>I'll defeat my boogeyman by screeching every single time I lose an argument
We noticed, no need to say it to yourself.
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>>576346068
>NO U!!!!!!!
Another nerve has been hit. All because you can't crawl back to /dbs/, you can just cry about it while being ignored unless someone feel like giving you small little slaps for fun.
Seriously, how does it feel to be rejected by /dbs/ and known here as A /dbs/ reject, not even the only one?
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>>576346227
>all caps anger
and all it took was for someone to namedrop you Luigi
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>>576346281
Good job recognizing your own anger in the greentext, /dbs/ reject.
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>>576346329
>no I'm not mad you're mad
yare yare Luigi
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>>576346381
>Stop pointing out I just called a quote of myself 'all caps anger!' NO U!!!
Not gonna happen, self-admitted raging reject.
Now is the time you get even madder and start saying nonsense from /a/ that you thought were approved replies, /dbs/ reject.
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>>576346489
explain why you start getting so defensive and angry once someone identifies you every time Luigi
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>>576345826
Have anime games progressed to the point where they can look like their CGI teasers yet?
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Can we end this already? I don't know, or care who's Luigi or the anon(s) who call out Luigi and the back and forth are the most low effort posts we get in these threads, every single time.
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>>576346530
>Explain why I get mocked every time I start screaming about Nintendo and talk about my /dbs/ and discord lore
The fact this isn't self evident to you is hilarious. It's because that kind /dbs/ bullshit is not welcome here, we're not your therapy group for whatever imaginary beef you got with random anons on other boards.
The fact this happens every time you have that tantrum should have clued you in.
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>>576346642
didn't read btw Luigi. not our fault you doxxed yourself.
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>>576346595
I think Dragon Ball games MIGHT get to that point next generation, but outside of gacha games, licensed anime games have visually stagnated. I don't know why. Making an anime game as good looking as its anime should be the bare minimum, but it's such a tall order.
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>>576346639
Let's try changing the topic
What kind of fighting style should Gine have in SZ?
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>>576346639
>I don't know, or care
You can't know because it's literally just some bullshit one anon brought in from /dbs/ and refuse to let go no matter how many times he shit up the thread with it and get told we don't care.
It's not for nothing that it always flares up around when we get news because that's when we get crossposters coming back.
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can't wait for XenoVerse 3
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>>576346703
>He couldn't even reply
Just got the 'fire' slapped out of you, eh?
>our
You really can't handle the fact you're all alone and rejected, damn.
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>>576346872
why did you dox yourself Luigi? your twitter handle became public
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>>576346726
The director for Arc System has a lecture on how they get their anime games looking so good. I think to even get to their level you have to specialize in it like CC2 and them do. For other studios to do that and keep up with Bamco's tight budget and time constraints they'd have to overhaul their production values and their staff and only DB/gacha makes enough money to justify that. Like the newer sparking zero characters may look kind of good now, they may be doing that thing Arcsys does where they deform the models, but that's because they're doing it for Dragon Ball. I guarantee their next anime game will only barely look better than Jump Force.
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>>576346639
>>576346639
>don't know, or care who's Luigi or the anon(s) who call out Luigi
It kind of reminds me of /a/ where all the shounen threads just have some boogeyman/named poster that they get into arguments with, imaginary or not. Like I was checking out a black clover thread earlier today to see how the series ended and the very first convo I see is schizoposting about some Jeremy guy.
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>>576346920
>public
Nobody knows nor care about your bully's twitter.
Especially not while you're such an easy and demoralized target desperately trying to change the subject.
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>>576347062
you exposed yourself Luigi. no one did it for you.
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>>576347025
Wow, it's almost like the guy who started screaming about 'Luigi' out of nowhere while we were talking about Bardock also start bringing up /dbs/ out of nowhere and keep saying that's where he knows that 'Luigi' from.
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>>576346771
She's probably be a 2DP character given that she's made to be someone who's bad at fighting. Maybe she would throw kitchen cutlery instead of ki blasts? She could have a skill where she eats meat to heal herself, similar to Yajirobe's senzu, but not a full heal. They'd have to get creative with her moveset either way. The only game I saw Gine in was World Mission, and she wasn't an offensive unit, but a support one who threw in a buff (I think it was an attack buff? She threw a gigantic piece of meat when doing so). She'd make more sense as an assist for Bardock if anything, but he's already his own character in SZ.
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>>576347106
>I exposed my bully!
Meanwhile the only talk around your meltdown is people saying you should stop and people confused about what the fuck you're on about.
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>>576346771
He beats you with a giant piece of meat
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>>576347298
well Luigi the one who doxxed yourself and now you start throwing a fit whenever people correctly identify you. dont get mad at us. you told us your name.
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>>576347304
She* dammit
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>>576347385
>us
Poor /dbs/ reject. All alone and unable to handle it while he think anybody gives a shit about some rando's dox he got out of butthurt and that he can't even post.
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>>576347465
wow Luigi you reaaaaally hate that people know who you are huh
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>>576347513
You really didn't take your dox thing being laughed well, eh? Shame you're all alone and nobody will comfort you about it, /dbs/ reject.
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>>576347581
it's your dox Luigi. a dox you made known to us btw
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Can you just stop replying to this bot? For the love of god. Maybe it'll go away if you just stop responding to it.
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>>576347620
>US!!!!
All alone and without dox to post cause you know nobody will give a shit even if you do.
>>576347675
Nah, he keeps melting down no matter what, it's funnier to just humiliate him.
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I hope Toriyama made an original Frieza race character.
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>>576347738
but you're the one who posted the Dox yourself Luigi
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>>576347025
I'm not even sure it's an actual boogeyman. The alledged Luigi posts something, and the anti-Luigi poster is always around to call him out. I wouldn't be surprised if it's one anon schizoposting as both. It's tiresome and annoying either way so it's best to report and move on.
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>>576347789
>No balls and no company
Poor /dbs/ reject.
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>>576347864
are you saying you posted your own dox on purpose lol
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>>576347927
How the fuck do mocking you for not having the balls to post your boogeyman's dox somehow admitting to your delusion, you retard?
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>>576347809
>I wouldn't be surprised if it's one anon schizoposting as both.
This happens more often than you think. I wouldn't be surprised
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>>576347985
and now you're becoming ESL...great... wait i said becoming, which assumes you weren't ESL already. my bad
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>>576347809
>and the anti-Luigi poster is always around to call him out.
That's because he just calls anyone that and he's the problem, which then make some anons target him because at this point everyone know he's super easy to make mad.
>it's an actual boogeyman.
The point of a boogeyman is that it doesn't exist. And it's a /dbs/ boogeyman so it's extra fake.
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>>576348054
Still no dox from the /dbs/ reject. Are you scared that if you post it, your boogeyman is really gonna show up and chase you out of the thread like you were chased off /dbs/?
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>>576348198
explain to us why being identified offends you so much Luigi?
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>>576348251
I already explained why you get bullied and it broke your heart so bad, you've been crying since.
Here >>576346642
Still no dox? So sad
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>>576348343
>I
>he admits to being Luigi
well well well
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>>576348359
>He thought this was clever
You really didn't like that reminder. Poor reject.
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>>576348439
lol you just exposed yourself again. cant help it can ya?
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When you think about it Vegeta is like the Luigi of Dragon Ball. Luigi even had a Majin Vegeta arc and went to hell afterwards.
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>>576348498
>My tears expose you!!!
Ask me to explain to you again, it seems to do the most damage to your fragile mind somehow.
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>>576348570
>ask me
>me
I asked luigi. you just exposed yourself a third time...
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>>576348502
Wasn't nintendo pushing Luigi as someone who had a grudge on Mario's success once upon a time? I think his Final Smash in Brawl represents that, but IIRC they dropped that.
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I hope the Saiyans in this game aren't Octoroons at all and Toriyama/Dimps either bites the bullet and reveals there was a surviving clan of Saiyans all along, or that Beerus won Sadala from Champa somehow and brought it close to earth and breeding with humans gave them their offspring tails.
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>>576348621
You call everything Luigi but you replied to my post, retard. You suck at being clever.
Now beg me to explain again so I can mentally hurt you easily.
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>>576348689
yare yare...you just keep digging a deeper hole for yourself
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>>576348714
>You just keep slapping me around
That's not really hard, /dbs/ reject.
>yare yare
Are you that faggot who got mad that Goku would no sell some JJBA cripple's nonsense?
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>>576348771
what is hard tho is you not exposing yourself lol ain't it?
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>>576348813
Given that you've been melting down about some dude nobody here knows for hours, it's actually very easy. You won't even post his dox.
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>>576348865
you exposed yourself tho >>576348359 >>576348621
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Dragon Ball Online revealed...
>Goku and Vegeta going into deep space for one last fight never to be seen again, causing a supernova explosion
>Gohan writing a book that introduces martial arts and ki to the normies
>Goku and Vegeta's offspring spreading their genes so far and wide that every human has a bit of Saiyan in them (that's how the player can go Super Saiyan)
>Buu reading Mr. Satan's pornos and making himself a wife, the two of them combining a piece of themselves creates a child, starting the Buu race
>Tien and Krillin bringing back the Crane and Turtle School
>Goten and Trunks starting a sword fighting school
>Frieza's forces seething on earth and plotting revenge
>Red Ribbon army getting brought back and becoming the Red Pants army who wants to kick all the alien immigrants out
>Namekians and the blue Yardrats immigrating to earth
>a group of Namekians finding where King Piccolo used to reside and getting corrupted by the evil energy residing in there

So what kind of lore do you guys think Xenoverse 3 will introduce?
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>>576348926
>Shitty cope gotchas are exposing you!
That's just sad. If you really think I'm the dude who raped you on /dbs/, just post the dox to own me epicly.
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>>576349037
again no one forced you to dox yourself. you just did it. kek
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>>576348953
>Goku and Vegeta's offspring spreading their genes so far and wide that every human has a bit of Saiyan in them (that's how the player can go Super Saiyan)
I blame Goten
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>>576348953
>>Goku and Vegeta's offspring spreading their genes so far and wide that every human has a bit of Saiyan in them (that's how the player can go Super Saiyan)
That's not true, player characters are just VERY rare humans with traces of saiyan ancestry, not every human has a bit of saiyan in them, only a few.
>>576349079
So you know I'm not the guy who raped you on /dbs/, meaning I'm raping you here with you not being able to do shit about it. And you have no balls.
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>>576349178
explain why you called yourself Luigi then?
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>>576348953
>Goten and Trunks starting a sword fighting school
This one is just funny. Goten is just being a Trunks tagalong as usual, but Trunks is rippng off Future Trunks too. Neither of them get to be their own characters because of someone else kek.

>a group of Namekians finding where King Piccolo used to reside and getting corrupted by the evil energy residing in there
I wasn't aware of that one...
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>>576349207
I didn't and I already explained why you're this thread's punching bag every time you cry for attention here: >>576346642
You just call everything Luigi cause you're a broken rape victim with no balls who's scared his rapist will show up if you post the dox you keep promising totally exist.
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>>576349297
>I
a 4th time...
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>>576349242
>I wasn't aware of that one...
One of the first real bad guy you face as a majin is an evil namekian and that's where you get that lore IIRC.
>>576349337
>MY GOTCHA!!!! STOP USING NORMAL WORDS!!!
/dbs/ rape victim screechiung again.
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>>576349413
see now you're upset because you exposed yourself 4 times. lol.
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>>576349456
>YOU'RE UPSET!!!! *fake laugh through gritted tears*
Feels so good to bully some faggot as he literally can't do shit about it.
Anywhere, where's that dox?
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>>576349515
you still haven't explained why you called yourself Luigi
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>>576332970
>cyber enhanced Blue
Tuffle Quest wins again!
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>>576349574
I explained why you were a punching bag here >>576349297 and every time I link it, you change topic in a panic and with no dox.
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>>576349659
>I
there goes lucky 5
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>>576349682
>MY GOTCHA!!! WHY WON'T IT WORK!!! IT'S THE 5TH TIME!!!
Hey remember when you were calling everyone Luigi and talking about some dox? And then I called your bluff and you couldn't post shit cause you made it up? And now every time I link the post that raped your soul, you do that little gimmick you'll drop in shame?
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>>576349456
>See now I made a scenario where I'm not the victim
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>>576349812
can we go for 6 Luigi? let's go for 6. explain why you called yourself Luigi
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>>576349860
>Please let it work!!!!
Read here and cut yourself >>576349297
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>>576349954
now you're being real careful now huh lol
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>>576347809
Since he had the same meltdown calling me Luigi a few days ago, no, we just have a genuine schizo fag shitting up the thread.
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>>576349632
Wait, seriously? How?
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>>576348953
>So what kind of lore do you guys think Xenoverse 3 will introduce?
I honestly don't really expect them to do databook level shit like DBO did. We'll see what's happening in the story obviously but we're not going to get much info on that 200+ year long gap.

But if I had my way
>What happened to Yamcha since that was pretty much the only thing DBO neglected to tell us about
>official name for Frieza's clan and what they're doing on earth
>angel lore
>what the demon realm's been up to since King Kuu took control
>what Sadala's been up to
>what happened to Frieza
>nu Galactic Patrol
>whether or not Gowasu has a new successor
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>>576349981
Poor /dbs/ reject, he already dropped his gimmick in shame, with still no dox and a still broken heart from my explainination.
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>>576350049
>my
there it goes. that's the 6th time you identified yourself as Luigi.
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>>576350036
forgot
>What Universe 11 is like now since Toppo is likely the new GoD
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>>576350098
>WHY DID IT FAIL 6 TIMES?!
Cause you're a faggot with no balls that lose his soul every time I explain the things he begs an answer for due to being a retard backed into a corner with no dox.
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>>576350174
>I
holy fuark. there goes 7. 7 times you confirmed you are Luigi.
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>>576350171
He's not gonna shut up, those Luigi meltdown is the only attention he get nowadays.
He used to be called 'The thread cumdump' for a reason
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>>576350241
>If I keep counting, the pain will stop!!!
If you wonder how we all know you're a /dbs/ reject, it's because you say shit like 'fuark'.
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>>576350338
you're being real careful now huh?
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>>576350372
>Back to dropping his gimmick in shame
You should have picked a better cope mechanism after your dox delusion got destroyed. Better luck in your next life.
No more 'fuark'? Too ashamed?
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>>576350436
hey you're the one who confirmed you are Luigi.
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>>576350007
nta but I can fill you in as one of the players.

Quest started based in Path to Power, so while Blue got shot and left for dead in the movie, in the Quest itself he got turned into an Android by Doctor Gero and served as an antagonist early on. Actually ended up employed by Pilaf afterward (they escaped prison following a mixup with Towa and a very confused TP Trunks) when he ended up Emperor of Mifan, in a sorta reference to the third OG Dragon Ball movie. He's still around in the Quest as one of Pilaf's bodyguards.
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>>576336330
Modchads
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>>576350007
IIRC it happened during the OG portion. Tuffle Quest starts with Path to Power, so during the first hunt for the dragon balls, Goku already dealt with RRA. The second hunt has the characters dealing with RRA again (Which somehow Pilaf had taken over), and eventually Blue shows up, and I think he was an android, who was easily dealt with because of really good rolls (IIRC something similar happened with Tao). I'm not sure if Gero was affiliated with Pilaf's RRA though. It's been a long time...
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>>576350453
Post the dox then instead of crying and dropping your gimmick with tears in your eyes whenever my explanation get linked.
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>>576350338
You got him so mad, he think normal sentences are 'careful'
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>>576350518
>my
and just like that---10 times you confirmed you're Luigi. you make it so easy for us.
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>>576350581
>us
Holy shit you're still mad about being all alone? That's even sadder than you looking at the ground whenever the dox get mentioned.
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>>576350498
>>576350514
Huh. That's actually kinda neat.
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>>576350581
That wasn't an i so you failed at your own gimmick.
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>>576350607
>replies in seconds
Luigi melty ensuing. & all because he told us he's Luigi.
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>>576350668
>Still no dox
>Still all alone
>Still mad about both facts
All because you're mad you won't even get your own thread name here no matter how much you sperg out about your /dbs/ bully.
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>>576350761
you're being real careful now huh?
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>>576350786
Oh, we're at the copy paste part of your suicide letter already? That was fast.
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>>576350665
It was a shit gimmick anyway.
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>>576350842
yuppity. you're being careful. doesn't matter now. you just said you're Luigi.
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>>576350878
>yuppity
Glad you could admit it.
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>>576350940
admit that you're Luigi? but you did that for all of us.
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>>576350878
I admit you're an unfunny faggot
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>>576350970
>fuck fuck fuck BACKPEDAL!!!!
Won't work, just like your nonexistent dox for your /dbs/ rapist.
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>>576350976
>I
there it is
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>>576351023
clam down Luigi. not our fault your /dbg/'s lolcow.
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>>576351104
And yet you're the fighting for your life for hours, screaming about a dox you don't have.
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>>576351185
how about this Luigi? we'll leave you alone once you explain to us why you doxxed yourself as Luigi.
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>>576350658
I find Tuffle Quest to have a bunch of problems when it comes to the writing (First 10 chapters are bad with too much TFS and Whendon style dialogues, warrior characters having interchangeable personalities, Bulma being reduced to pretty much Briefs without the humor, power levels' numbers overstaying their welcome, disrespect for Toriyama villains to prop up movie villains), but Kato's autism is pretty neat since she makes connections between unconnected things (Pendulum Room from Kami's lookout was created because Kami used a room with real time traveling, it created a a timeline because of the changes Goku and Maple caused, and he gets scolded by Chronoa afterwards), and she really tries to understand Toriyama's humor (Pilaf somehow taking over Mifan as its emperor. Maple and Piccolo making a competition of creating panties because they need panties to get in a specific temple, and Piccolo putting the demonic symbol in the panties he created). Story is at its best whenever Kato gets to be an autist emulating Toriyama while also creating a world out of everything DB and Toriyama's other works.
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>>576351221
>M-m-me and the voices w-w-will run away i-
No, you stay right here as my personal clown.
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>>576351185
>you're the fighting for your life
>IESLB
Done.
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>>576351028
Yup, there's the reality of what you are, unfunny faggot
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>>576351301
>my
there it is
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>>576351312
>>576351360
Reply 5 more times, I'm sure you'll feel better then, /dbs/ reject.
Pointing out it's been hours really hurt you.
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>>576351405
>I'm
yup yup yuppity yup
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>>576351360
Hey, unfunny faggot, where's my reply? I humiliated you like everyone else did, where's the squealing?
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>>576351432
That's a good /dbs/ reject, agreeing with all the insults throw at him.
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>>576351518
you're being real careful now huh?
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>>576351550
Back to copy pasting? That must have hurt extra.
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>>576351550
I'm not and yet you're ducking me like the bitch you are.
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>>576351613
anyway Luigi why do you feel the need to dox yourself at every turn?
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>>576351637
>F-f-f-fuck I have no reply, let's copy paste something else!!!!!
What dox? How about you post it?
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>>576351705
can't answer the question Luigi? yare yare
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>>576351637
Anyway, unfunny faggot, why do you feel the need to bitch out at every turn?
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>>576351745
>Take my ultimate cope: The shit I saw others do on /dbs/ that made people agree with them!!!!
Such a shame this isn't /dbs/ cause you were kicked out of it and you have no dox because your boogeyman doesn't exist.
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>>576351825
you're afraid to answer Luigi lol
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Dude has been screaming about Nintendo hours after saying the conversation was over.
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>>576351843
>Y-y-you're afraid of my non-existent dox about my amalgam of everyone who ever humiliated me in an argument!
Post it then instead of cowering in the corner.
>>576351906
All that to defend some shitty dub-only line that made no sense.
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>>576351963
you called yourself Luigi tho Luigi
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>>576351843
Afraid of what? You inevitably going 'I was only pretending to be retarded!'?
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>>576351992
Hey, it's that gimmick you abandoned in shame. Yet another copy past out of desperation.
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>>576352059
you're deflecting again Luigi yare yare
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>>576352080
No, he didn't, he just frustrated your attempt at a 'gotcha'
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>>576352080
/dbs/ reject cope.
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>>576352162
ok Luigi. don't get mad at us for your own fault.
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>>576352197
>ok
It's obvious you're giving up when you start just agreeing that you're coping and a /dbs/ reject.
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>>576352251
look at Luigi being careful after he exposed himself 10 times lol. he doesnt want to make it 11.
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>>576352197
The only 'us' so far has been shitting on you, it is obvious you've overstayed your welcome.
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>>576352285
Man, this is just sad. I'm giving you this so you don't kill yourself.
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>>576352341
>I'm
gottem
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Real schizo hours
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>>576352375
Be charitable toward a /dbs/ reject and they won't even say thank you. So rude.
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>>576352375
And there's the 'I was only pretending'.
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>>576352467
it's all right Luigi maybe next time you won't out yourself
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>>576352530
Next time you'll be melting down at someone else and still get laughed at.
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>>576341509
It's fanfiction trash. I can confirm he didn't say that in the Japanese version.
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>>576351225
She's someone that genuinely does have an appreciation for Toriyama's works in general and Dragon Ball as a whole, and even if there are some hit or miss moments the overall vibe I still get is someone that wants to share that autistic appreciation to the best of her abilities. Even when she's adding in things from other series they're often grounded somehow in a connection to Dragon Ball. For example, Gundam was referenced directly in Jaco, so the twins watched Gundam and got inspired into making some skills based on it with others; because Godzilla and Gamera have been directly referenced in the series, Godzilla's been one of the opponents in a Tournament (and Roshi taught him the Kamehameha); Sachie Momochi and Zarid from that one Galactic Patrol manga become major characters in the Kai portion and are actually given ties to Dr. Slump (there's even a kinda funny bit that references the Super Strength Ramen from it and Naruto at the same time, that ends on a very Toriyama gag). Later on she has a whole reference to her other big autistic passion, Transformers, referenced as a world that got warped to U7 from U3, with it being solidly tied to that universe but also some ongoing plotlines involving the Machine Mutants and some original stuff.

It's fascinating the kinds of things she'll be able to come up with or connect together while still trying to make it "feel" like Dragon Ball. She's also among the group of fans making their own stories that don't try to shit on Goku for no reason (nor prop him up as someone he really isn't), and that's always a plus in my books.
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>>576352530
A unfunny faggot AND a quitter.
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>>576352605
running away Luigi? why? did we hurt you?
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>>576352632
Yeah, I checked with a screenshot of the scene in Japanese on a translator. The first anon was right.
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>>576352678
You really didn't like your attempt at leaving being called our lmao.
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2 hours btw.
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>>576352678
>why?
You tell us, you and the voices in your head are the ones who started talking about 'next time'.
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>>576352819
Almost like even /dbs/ kicked the reject out for a reason
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>>576352872
I'm Luigi and I'm the one who kicked him out.
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>>576352946
No, I'm Luigi!
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Can Mario and Luigi beat Goku?
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>>576352972
I'M Luigi!
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>>576352981
No. Neither can JBA characters
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>>576352939
Sex
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>>576352981
Nah
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>>576350514
>he was an android, who was easily dealt with because of really good rolls (IIRC something similar happened with Tao).
That's funny because that's basically like canon then. Cyborg Tao got no sold by Tenshinhan.
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God the dub was a fucking mistake.
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>>576353156
The DB dub and the Yu Gi Oh dubs are the only dubs I've ever seen that are both absolutely awful parodies of the actual story and yet some people will defend it to the death and let them get away with it to this day.
I'll never forget that the DBS dub had Vegeta make a fucking Yamcha joke.
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>>576351225
>Maple and Piccolo making a competition of creating panties because they need panties to get in a specific temple, and Piccolo putting the demonic symbol in the panties he created
That's actually kinda funny.

>>576352636
>because Godzilla and Gamera have been directly referenced in the series, Godzilla's been one of the opponents in a Tournament (and Roshi taught him the Kamehameha);
That's such an absurd sentence but you know what that sounds fun, I'll let it slide.

>Sachie Momochi and Zarid from that one Galactic Patrol manga become major characters in the Kai portion and are actually given ties to Dr. Slump (there's even a kinda funny bit that references the Super Strength Ramen from it and Naruto at the same time, that ends on a very Toriyama gag).
What kind of gag?
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>>576352636
> She's also among the group of fans making their own stories that don't try to shit on Goku for no reason (nor prop him up as someone he really isn't), and that's always a plus in my books.
I noticed she undermined Goku (Everyone else keeping up with him means he's overall less skilled, plus she attributed some of his things to others, such as having Kaio suggest him to use SS1 in base form to get used to it), but those feel accidental, a consequence of the kind of setting she's trying to make. It's specially obvious how accidental it was since he's the most major character after Maple even before they dated... Speaking of that, Goku ending up with an OC and not Chichi usually has Chichi being shit on, but the worst thing that happened with Chichi is her having the "warrior characters with interchangeable personalities" syndrome, but that's more of a side effect of making everyone relevant. At least she still wants her kids to study.

>>576353152
>Cyborg Tao got no sold by Tenshinhan.
I meant Tao was easily beaten during his first confrontation. Tanks to a good roll he didn't really damage anyone, and the kids ganged up on him too. He didn't become a cyborg too, and I doubt he will, since Mutaito went to Kaio's planet, and had a talk with Crane Elder and Tao, which made them stop being villains (It was too convenient for my tastes). Now they're Pilaf's bodyguards in Mifan and Tenshinhan made a Crane school there.

>>576353497
>That's such an absurd sentence but you know what that sounds fun, I'll let it slide.
Kato does that a lot. When Vegeta went to Earth for saiyan saga business, Freeza this time caught wind of it, but instead of stopping Vegeta, he sent Cui to keep an eye on Vegeta IIRC... And also had Vegeta babysit Kuriza while he was at it, and Onio tagged along too, so it was pretty much a field trip... It's too bad Vegeta was the worst thing of saiyan saga because he was writen like a TFS character whenever he was talking to Maple.
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I hope XV3 gets proper nude mods so I can see some big beautiful buufu titties
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>>576336330
I think that Sparking Zero's style is usually closer not only to Shintani's but to modern Toriyama and people's attempt at "Zfying" is pretty cringe
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>>576354530
I agree
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>>576353497
>What kind of gag?
So the gimmick from Sachie's manga is that she's from a ninja family and can get superhuman strength from a specially developed instant ramen. In the quest she helps Izzy and the ninja clan that Yurin co-opted (a group from Buu's Fury of all things) against a demon fox that Baby tried to take control of by doing a multi-form thing and eating dozens of cups of that Super Strength Ramen at once with those copies. Each of them gets the power boost, but when the clones disappear they transfer all that added power to her original self, giving her the power needed to stop the demon fox so they can purge Baby's influence from it.

The problem comes afterward that the ramen doesn't just poof into nonexistence when it wears off; girl effectively ate like 40 cups of instant ramen at once and it gave her indigestion.

>>576353834
I will say that there are still a lot of instances of Kato remembering that Goku's genuinely supposed to be a brilliant martial artist, so much so that other characters, even villains, have to respect his skills. He develops the Dragon Fist early and Gero and Towa work together to make three Androids with similar skills (that double as Blue Dragon references), yet Goku still manages to show his as the more refined version. Later on, even with Peppa getting Super Saiyan 3 first out of any character, Goku's both excited to see there's a level beyond 2 and even manages to unlock it and actually use it better than her first attempt at the World Tournament, with a free for all match between them, Vegeta, and the Quest's Android 19 (basically Nico from Heroes) that sees the former two as the last pair standing, Peppa just barely scraping by with a win at the end. Hell, even one of the Cell Sentai ends up with a sorta positive rivalry with Goku, and the bug guy clearly is unhappy that Goku got displaced and he lost a chance to fight him again.
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https://x.com/billycsta358/status/2084417362946601453

Goddamn
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>>576353834
That still sounds like an amusing set-up at least.

>>576354907
>The problem comes afterward that the ramen doesn't just poof into nonexistence when it wears off; girl effectively ate like 40 cups of instant ramen at once and it gave her indigestion.
KEK okay that is pretty good. Toriyama would absolutely have come up with something like that.
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>>576354907
Like I said, the devaluing of Goku was accidental, given that he's respected otherwise. Kato wanted to make a story where everyone is relevant, so everyone else are about as much fighting autists as Goku. Maple is the protagonist so she pretty much takes Goku's role here and there, most noticeably in King Piccolo's arc, where Maple goes through the suffering of having people killed, while Goku is just her sidekick. To have other characters be smart, Kaio is the one who suggests Goku to use SS1 in base form instead of Goku coming up with that by himself. The latter example is as bad as it gets (And it's specially stupid for Kaio to make such a suggestion, when it's more natural for a saiyan to realize the form's shortcomings and come up with something), but like you said, he got dragon fist early, and even with occasional bad rolls that made him lag behind Tenshinhan and Maple, he still got ahead of them anyway even before getting super saiyan. The devaluing was an accidental consequence, and it's specially noticeable if you compare with some Vegetafags writing fanfics, or Salagir, where the devaluing is intentional and spiteful.
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Now that the dust has settled, and putting aside what you thought about each series.
Even putting aside nostalgia and our natural human tendency to say the old is better than the new,

Which Super Saiyan 4 design do you prefer?

For me, it's GT SSJ4. I like from a concept perspective of what the Daima one was going for with the huge ass gorilla arms, but in reality it's an extremely hard design to make look good outside of certain animated angles, and I felt like Daima exploited the fuck out of those cinematic angles to make it look not as goofy as it could be. Also from a color perspective the GT yellow + blue contrasting against the red looks so much better than the orange gi contrasting against the red.
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>>576356701
If he kept his belt on then I would’ve preferred Daima.
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>>576332854
I honestly feel that GT Vegeta should have just been an extra costume for the Vegeta from the Majin Buu saga, He's not that different from the regular Vegeta we all know.
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>>576335094
You are so lucky.
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>>576356701
I see daima super saiyan 4 the same as I see blue evolved/super vegeta

if they combine the two so as not to disrespect Toriyama but not screw over GT fans they should name them like that, Super Saiyan 4 and Super Saiyan 4 evolved and just commit that GT Super saiyan 4's black hair is apart of the form rather than apart of the natural hair color.

After all it's not alien to the franchise to have the same form but get buffer and bigger, Broly and Kale's controlled LSS makes them bigger than their normal selves, Broly's wrath state also made him bigger than his normal self, the same goes for Jiren, Freiza, Toppo, Zamasu, Moro and even Gomah perhaps the most obvious one who kept growing bigger and bigger the stronger he got with the third eye
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>>576360434
I like how he doesn't shut up about being Earth's Protector in his dialogue
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>>576333087
I wish the gaming industry wasn't run by jews and we actually got high quality vidya, affordable vidya
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Bump
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>>576356701
I prefer Daima. He's bigger and more primal looking than man monkey Lui Kang.
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>>576356701
>Which Super Saiyan 4 design do you prefer?
Daima's version is better, it has the gorilla arms, a better transformation sequence, the monkey run and just generally a much better fight and showing than GT's.
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>>576370295
Oh and it doesn't have the whole dumbass 'It's the TRUE Legendary Super Saiyan people were talking about in the past'. This is so dumb and does nothing for the form while just diminishing Goku's transformation on Namek.
The 'True Super Saiyan' is what Goku turned into on Namek, end of story, any change to that is trash.
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>>576332854
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>>576371452
Nice armpit
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>>576371452
Did she always have just the one shoulder strap
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>>576356701
GT's version is miles better, just like the series itself.
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>>576348687
All Saiyans are going to be mutts to explain why you can give them rainbow colored CaC hair and eyes. Just LARP as a pure blood if you have to.
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>>576373231
Kek no
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>>576373231
Truth.
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HOLY SHIT
HE DID IT
HE SAID THE LINE!!!!!!!
IM GONNA STAND
AND CLAP!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>576376053
even the pure bloods had a few with different colored hair, that Onia chick from the Broly movie had blue hair
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Dragon Ball the breakers
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>>576373231
Lies.
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>>576377706
Reminds me of dub Baby’s forced “final bout” reference.
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>>576371452
One thing I did like about GT was the tail turning gold, even if it was only for SSJ3 for some reason.
>>576371764
Yes.
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>>576380710
Officially the tail allows better mastery over 3
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>>576373231
Nobody actually believes this. Not even brown shitposters.
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>>576332854
i still can't get the hidden bosses to spawn in LBJ mode
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>Trunks and Mai came in second place on Japan's list of the worst anime couples right behind Sasuke and Sakura
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>>576385847
>3rd is ichigo and orihime
wow i'm surprised people are that mad about that, it's not like naruto and hinata are on there and that's practically the same thing
though i'm glad to see gato and nina are on the list even if it is only 20th, FUCK nina
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So they're seething that hard? Good.
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>>576377706
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Holy shit lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgrGcqZ17pI
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>>576333087
Sex with Shenron
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>>576390220
It's amazing how hype Ultra Instinct is without that gross voice filter the dub has
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>>576371452
bvilt for big earthling cock
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>>576347756
I fucking wish, but we both know he did not.
Also sex with Froze.
>>576348953
You forgot about Kuriza saving his race from extinction by breeding Bulla.
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>B*lla
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>>576385847
>Yuki and Yuno from Future Diary
>Eren and Mikasa from Attack on Titan
>Rent-A-Girlfriend
>School Days is there three times
Kek. Nice list.
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>>576385847
>>576397056
Oh and
>Nina and Alexander from FMA
LMAOOOO
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>>576377706
Why does Black know Bardock?
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>>576402151
He doesn't.
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>>576385847
>3rd
I love how pìcrel will forever be relevant.
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>>576402151
he read minus
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>>576402334
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>>576402151
I suppose you could say it's because Zuno told him.
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>>576397056
>School days
That's unfair for it to be in the running because the VN and anime were dumpster fires. And what a wild ride that dumpster was.
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>>576402151
It's because the localizer thinks he's being clever by saying movie names. In Japanese Black simply deduces Bardock is Goku's father based on Bardock's claim, and doesn't mention his name since he doesn't know.

https://youtu.be/vDjmZtd4fuw?t=11

"中身はカカロットじゃねえのか? てめえ・・・人の息子に変なことしてくれやがって・・・"

"So the one inside isn't Kakarot?
You bastard... What the hell have you done to my son...?"

"孫悟空の父親だな? 喜べ きさまの息子の体は、ずいぶんと使い心地がいいぞ?"

"You're Son Goku's father, aren't you? Rejoice.
Your son's body is remarkably comfortable to use."
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>>576404710
More dubshit trash, I see.
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>>576356195
The devaluing of goku is something that happens accidentally in basically every fanfiction ive read. His entire thing is that he tends to be several steps ahead of everyone else due to how good of a martial artist he is and how effective he is in training and figuring stuff out. Issue is that tends to leave other people in the dust, so when everyone else is relavent goku just becomes default fight guy
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>>576405175
Either this or saiyan OCs who like training and becoming stronger, which devalues Goku since no saiyan before him cared about becoming stronger, and they only liked their own strength to bully others, while Goku likes his own strength for the sake of having strength.
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Apparently, there's a Raging Blast 2 PC port with modding support in development.
60 FPS support is on the plans too.
https://youtu.be/tqTNHcUTxNc?t=255
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>>576405894
That too. As well as the fact that everyone tends to be doing stuff like gravity training before Z even starts, goku just tends to have very very little time to shine. Really the big thing that fanfics have a hard time dealing with is Gohan. If youre not doing a Gohan MC fanfic youre forced to stealth nerf him because hes too god damn strong and invalidates the entire cast permanently if he keeps training
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>>576406089
very nice, add additional slots and a way to give it the RB1 shaders and it'll probably be the optimal pre-SZ tenkaichi experience
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>>576348687
With no known surviving female Saiyans in U7, it's unlikely that there could be full blooded Saiyans alive by Age 1000 living on Earth unless the following is true:
-Goku, Vegeta, Broly and/or Tarble had relations with Planet Sadala Saiyans from U6
-Someone used the Super Dragon Balls to resurrect the U7 Saiyans much like they were used to restore U6's Earth
-They're the descendants of the Toki Toki City and Conton City Saiyans pulled from parallel timelines and eras thanks to Chronoa
-They were cloned into existence thanks to Bulma
-Someone used the Dragon Balls to turn some of Goku and Vegeta's descendants into full blooded Saiyans
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>>576406197
Well, actually I would like to revise this. This WOULD be a problem but no fanfic ever does buu saga ever so it rarely tends to come to fruition. I genuinely cannot think of a single fanfic that has ever done buu saga. I GUESS saiyan conqueror counts but buu just kinda got ginyu'd so that isnt really the same thing
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>>576406664
What even is anon's deal with human saiyan hybrids? Given Goku Junjor they seem to function identically to normal saiyans if not being outright stronger, given Gohan, Trunks, and Goten are leagues stronger than full saiyan counterparts at similar ages
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>>576406197
>Really the big thing that fanfics have a hard time dealing with is Gohan.
Hell, that's a problem official media have trouble dealing with. GT just ignored his potential and had him be weaker than Vegeta and lost his ultimate form. DBS made him go through the whole "I stopped training, but after something dangerous happened I started to train once more" three times (Post FnF, ToP, Super Hero) even though god forms being exclusive to Goku and Vegeta would be a good way to balance out Gohan's potential, and Daima just pretended he doesn't exist save for one throwaway line.
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>>576407297
Wasn't his ToP training an extension of wanting to train after FnF, though. We get occasional looks at him training with piccolo which culminates in him fighting against the trio of danger in the tournament of destroyers. He completes that training just before the ToP and re-unlocks ultimate.
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>>576406994
>given Gohan, Trunks, and Goten are leagues stronger than full saiyan counterparts at similar ages
Reminder that back in saiyan saga, Vegeta didn't want saiyan hybrids because they could become way too powerful.
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>>576407589
Genuinely kind of insane that Goten and Trunks are vaguely namek goku level despite having no real hard training and living in times of peace. That super saiyan dick hits hard I guess
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>>576404710
WHY ARE ENGLISH LOCALIZERS ALWAYS LIKE THIS
RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

JUST TRANSLATE THE FUCKING SCRIPT ACCURATELY YOU FUCKS STOP PUTTING IN MEME TEAMFOURSTAR-TIER SHIT.
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>>576408103
>vaguely namek goku level
Far above that. Trunks made 18 wary of his ki blast, which was explicitly not too strong. She never reacted like that when Vegeta was fighting her, nor did she or 17 have such a reaction to Piccolo. At the bare minimum, they are 16/Imperfect Cell level, but they're likely above that too (Gohan was clearly straining when training with Goten, Trunks was powerful enough to sucker punch Vegeta, and when they both show off their real power in Kami's lookout, Piccolo is visibly shocked, while Goku quickly moves on). It's no wonder Toyotaro had them fight Cell Jrs in those extra pages, and the little we see, they're actually keeping up while outnumbered.
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>>576409609
Thats true, I was only thinking of that one comment from yo sun goku and friends where goku thought a frieza level opponent would be just enough for them. Maybe he meant their base forms, lmao.
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>>576409609
Forgot pic.
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>>576409812
Makes you wonder what the fuck was up with future trunks, given he couldn't do shit to 18 despite a lifetime of training and combat
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Unless they give us GT costumes for Gohan, Videl, and Bulma, this will be the final version of Parts 1 through 3.
I'm working on 4 though 7 right now.
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>>576410001
Specially since Trunks wasn't even properly trained by Vegeta, since Vegeta didn't even know Trunks could go super saiyan. Maybe he taught Trunks the basics at some point, but there wasn't much training after that, if it happened. Goten and Trunks fought each other for fun, so maybe that's how? The whole S-cells thing from interviews could help explain it too.
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>>576348687
grim
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>>576410664
Surely Goten and Trunks couldn't have been fighting each other for that long given how young they are, and that wouldnt make up for actual training. Theres that one chichi filler, of course, but she hasn't been an active fighter for decades by this point. I guess it really is just you gotta be as strong as possible before you fuck
>tfw im in the time patrol and my saiyan GF wont let me hit before I can kill buu
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When can we expect the next SZ survey?
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>>576411218
>I guess it really is just you gotta be as strong as possible before you fuck
That would only explain why Goten is so strong, not Trunks, since it's not even clear Vegeta had super saiyan before impregnating Bulma, and probably didn't since it seems he obtained the form recently. At best, main Vegeta was stronger than future Vegeta (Since main Vegeta was doing intense training to fight the androids), but I'd still imagine he didn't have super saiyan, and even if he did, he wasn't that strong at the time since he was far below 18, so how strong one is before impregnating a woman wouldn't affect how strong the kid is that heavily. Trunks and Goten are only that strong for meta reasons to vaguely keep up with everyone, in-universe the reasoning is dubious. Heck, future Gohan is so weak for similar reasons, even if reversed.
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>>576412924
Oh no anon im well aware goten and trunks are strong for the meta reasons of sliding powerscaling. I just like to find fun justifications for that kind of stuff in universe, its fun
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>>576413154
The most we have is just play fighting and S-cells. Chi Chi training Goten wouldn't make him that strong, but at least it'd teach him the basics (While Chi Chi is weak, she is part of a training chain that includes Roshi, so she has solid basics), and checking out the manga here, Vegeta was training Trunks at least, he just was unaware Trunks could go super saiyan, so that could've caused a loop of Goten using the things he learned from Chi Chi, Trunks using the things he learned from Vegeta, and them subconsciously learning from each other when play fighting.
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>>576413995
Doesn't that page sort of imply that vegeta has only just now started to train trunks. Thinking that he wasnt old enough to train until now (which is kinda weird given Gohan was trained much earlier but to be fair vegeta has gotten soft)
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>>576414209
Vegeta in general also prefers to train on his own since he only cares about his own strength, so it's possible he simply didn't have interest in Trunks until recently. Goten is a year younger and he got some training from Chi Chi after all. Plus, while Gohan's training started earlier, that was an emergency.
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Should I get the five XV2 DLC packs I'm missing or just wait for XV3?
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I miss Toriyama
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VubcvequAow
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I'm curious to know what Zero's next DLC will be like. Will it be like season 1 with smaller focused character packs or will it be more like Neo with a larger roster of characters across the franchise? If the former, what would you like to see next?
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>>576417576
Gine, Pilaf gang, Arale and Neko Majin
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>>576417576
Gib movie henchmen pack.
14, 15, Neiz, Dore, Daiz, Cacao, Amond, Bido, Gokua, and Bujin
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>>576417576
I'd like more stages. Hell, Penguin village, Otherworld Tournament, U6 Tournament, Vampa, Red Ribbon Army base, and Baba's Palace
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>>576419149
Oh, and Beerus' planet
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>>576410541
Vegeta begins to regain consciousness seeing Sadala and other saiyans. Then Cabba hits Baby so hard that Vegeta vomits him out.
Kino.
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>>576406089
Great! Now remove the shitty shaders and bring back RB1's and I will consider playing it.
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>>576417576
What makes you think there will be more DLCs? It's not Xenoverse.
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haven't played sparking zero in awhile so i might be pretty rusty but
is the goku what-if where he takes on all 5 of the ginyu force supposed to be this fucking hard?

i get recoome to like one bar and then he becomes an absolute teleporting and parrying god.
each fight takes forever because it's just nonstop vanishing and parrying.
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>>576422293
it's a game wide issue, every mode got this sweatlord AI now
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>>576422471
oh i thought the sweatlord AI was only for the new limit breaking mode.
wew lad.
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>>576417576
>Will it be like season 1 with smaller focused character packs or will it be more like Neo with a larger roster of characters across the franchise?
I don't think they will have two big expansions back to back, remember that it came with a full new edition of the game with new box art and everything, I think it will be a regular season pass with just character and maybe one or two stages next year and then the Meteor expansion in 2028. The question is how they will handle Galactic Patrol and if it will be done airing by then.
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The fuck is a Paradisse Plant arc?
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>>576332854
This is not Toriyama's Goku
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Is Galactic Patrol airing this year? I can't imagine them getting anything more than 6 episodes out of battle of gods alone
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>>576424656
>Is Galactic Patrol airing this year? I can't imagine them getting anything more than 6 episodes out of battle of gods alone
BEERUS is Battle of Gods, Revival of F and the U6 Tournament
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>>576424656
It started production when they announced it, and they said it may come out in 2027, but it'll likely come out in 2028.
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>>576377706
>>576404710
We really need a global retranslation project for Dragon Ball vidya, Bamco just sucks in approach and terminology.
The LatAm spanish localization of Xenoverse 2 to this day is still calling this guy: Dark Goku (Goku Oscuro)
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>>576417576
We'll definitely get Meteor at one point
>>576424807
Officially it's just BOG with ROF teased, we'll see how it turns out.
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I just got the videl shirt, it looks good!
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>>576404710
Seriously, is Sparking 0 particularly bad about it or all DB games are like that? It's like every other line is complete fanfiction from the localization team.
Like even for localization defenders, that has to be too much, no?
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>>576333087
sex with Champa
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Am I retarded, rusty, both, or is the AI in the new mode and the new episodes absolutely fuckbusted in SZ? I swear I don't remember having this much issue before. I feel like they're just reading inputs like crazy.
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>>576427636
yeah see >>576422293
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>>576427764
I am retarded AND it's fuckbusted. Thank you, anon.
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>>576427869
yea i might wait until they fix the AI to try playing again.
at first it was fun to have a challenge but when it's missions that are like 1v5 and the AI is parrying and teleporting like a god out of every attack it kinda loses the fun aspect.
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>>576427324
>Seriously, is Sparking 0 particularly bad about it or all DB games are like that?
Older games adopted dubisms. They also had memes and references (Budokai Tenkaichi 2 or 3 both had Gotenks saying "Peanut Butter Jelly Time", Zangya saying "Don'tcha wish your girlfriend was hot like me?" as a music reference). Xenoverse also completely changed Cell's personality to make him meme-y, such as:

https://youtu.be/LGWnD-Cc_KI?t=1476

Sparking Zero doesn't seem any worse than usual, besides a greater emphasis on self references, but localization's usual cringe are unfortunately the norm.
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>>576428289
God, that's all terrible, WTF.
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>>576428332
Maybe Sparking Zero has a greater emphasis on memes compared to other games, but I'm not sure. It also has kid Trunks saying "No cap? Let's go!"
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>>576429052
God, the Vegeta one is even more forced than usual
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>>576428289
I replayed BT3 recently and I just had to chuckle when Nozawa gave her SSJ speech but the subtitles were that Hope of the Universe crap
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Is there a mod that unlocks the Limit Breaker stuff yet?
Already spent $99 on this game at launch don't feel like spending another $35 on top of that for stuff that should have been in the base game.
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>>576430430
creamapi
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>>576429927
Worst thing is, if you remove the meme, the translation would be fine.

"超サイヤ人4でも5でもなりたきゃ勝手になりやがれ! オレはきさまの先を行く!"

"Go ahead and become Super Saiyan 4, or 5, or whatever you want! I'll still be one step ahead of you!"

But they just can't help themselves.
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im in the mood for DBO...
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>>576432551
Me too but the generic WoW combat and quests kill my interest. I always end up bowing out before anything interesting happens
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>>576413995
Seeing Bulma smoking a cigarette is weird
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>>576429052
It really doesn't have any more an emphasis on the memes than other games. Even Xenoverse 2 had "it was a RAGING BLAST fighting you" from Goku, among other things.
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>>576431516
The guys had a SSJ5 joke already baked in and they HAD to ruin it with their shitty meme.
>>576432551
There's a new server that came out, you could try it.
>>576435486
Sparking 0 has more emphasis on Dubtitles tho. Cause you don't see lines like that in XV2 if you don't play in english. Meanwhile it doesn't matter what language you play Sparking 0, if it's not japanese, you get the memes.
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>>576436493
>There's a new server that came out, you could try it.
Does it have anyone playing other than huehues?
And what's actually new about it?
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>>576436619
I don't know, I just saw people shilling it on twitter.
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i honestly forgot how cute the introduction to the supreme kai of time was
still hope they bring milf chronoa to Xenoverse 3
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>>576439427
I FORGOT THAT THE GINYU QUEST CHANGES WITH YOUR CHARACTER
IM LEVEL 160
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so how you get the secret boss in LBJ mode in SZ is
>beat all battles super quickly
>fight the red midboss
dats it

just got vegeta ends, its teen gohan and he had like 9 hp bars and kicked my ass
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>>576417576
If they do follow up with a "Meteor" DLC pack, I'd probably want the following:
>All the remaining BT3 characters
>All the missing RB2 characters
>A handful of newcomers (Giran, Murasaki, Yakon, Rilldo, Basil, Lavender, Luud, Ledgic, the Tamagamis, etc...)
>All of the missing stages (Penguin Village, Mountain Road, Muscle Tower, King Furry's Castle, Mount Paozu, Hell, Desert, Cave, BT3 Planet, RB2 Planet)
>Some new stages (Capsule Corp, Cruise Ship, Beerus' Planet, Gowasu's Planet, Zeno's Palace)
>More story mode chapters based on OG, GT, and Daima, plus new what-ifs for all the existing chapters
>Raging Blast-style moveset customization, no more supers tied to costumes (also including missing supers and ults from past games)
>4-player matches (2v2 like Tenkaichi Tag-Team AND Free-for-All like Zenkai Battle)
>Updated models and snappier animations
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Can't believe I actually saw some of the bigger named Gekishin Youtubers saying Black is balanced/underwhelming.

Shilling money must be going to their heads.
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>>576337828
>My Dad, what big ears you have!
>All the better to hear you with my son.
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>>576428289
what did cell say originally?
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>>576439427
Even when she was evil, its hard not to find her cute...until you hear that voice, that is
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>>576422293
>is the goku what-if where he takes on all 5 of the ginyu force supposed to be this fucking hard?
That one was always pretty difficult, and the updated AI is a lot harder to cheese with supers / sparking. Try to use high/low combo mixups along with standard punching chains (dash in after a chain punch combo pushes the opponent back and repeat). I used to use the lifting strike more often, but the new AI vanishes it more often than not.
>>576429052
It's funny that the game has dialogue like that alongside some genuinely great character interactions. I was playing through the new mode with Nam, and his dialogue before boss battles is surprisingly good.
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>>576443076
I haven't been playing much lately, but Black is at least not prime Ulthan level. He seems to rely on his team more, but that hardly means he's balanced. His ult cuts off 50% of your HP if you're within its zone, on top of the damage it does, and while you can escape from the zone, Black can make it difficult with S1 and S3, and that's assuming the enemy team doesn't throw an ult to finish you off. S3 giving I-frames when he's in a zone pairs up really well with S1's zone because it prevents players from escaping his S1, the damage is good, and S3 having I-frames means it's not escapable. S2 is also pretty spammable as a zone so he'll always be lowering his CD. He's possibly not as braindead as Ulthan and Kid Buu, but he's overpowered either way.
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>>576444112
Read the subs anon...
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I'm leveling 35 to 50 levels in the new mode doing this
>Use all XP modifiers
>Hard mode
>Dynamic levels
The first super boss guarantees you at least 23 levels (if he's the easiest one) to 30 levels (hardest one), you get 2-3 levels per easy fight even if the enemy has less SP than you and if they're close to your SP, I think I could get another 30-50 levels in a run if I beat the final boss or secret boss, but they're disgusting with all the modifiers applied, Super Armor is not fun.
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Is there any bonus you get for starting limit breaker mode in a transformation as opposed to base?
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>>576456149
You start out in a transformation, and are thus stronger than starting in a base form.
That's it.
It helps that battles tend to take 3 min or less, so starting transformed saves time in the beginning.
However, there is an equippable person skill thing that maxes out your skill points the first time you transform or fuse each battle (there's also one that raises your max skill points).
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Why can't you play as Kid Daima SS4 Goku in Limit Breaker Journey?
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>>576385680
I haven't even FOUND Lyndon Bains Johnson mode.
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>>576428289
God, that's all SOVLful. Way better than the Nozawa dreck.
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>>576458223
Huh, weird. It should be under Kid Daima-ku but it isn't.
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>>576458223
>>576459003
You can play as him if you switch to Daimaku's second outfit that allows him to transform
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>>576376053
I would if they had FUCKING TAILS.
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>>576354530
I just hate how inconsistent it is. If they want to shintani it, do it throughout. As is we have Shintani early Goku and Shintani Bardock, but super accurate Z Turles and Z Fasha/Tora. It's jarring and I hate it.
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>>576410001
Future Trunks was conceived by a non Super Saiyan Vegeta, like Gohan was with Goku. Goten and Trunks were both fathered by super saiyans.
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>>576429052
BT3 had Gotenks say peanut butter jelly time.
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>>576440120
RIP
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>>576441018
Interesting info, anon.
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>>576460590
>Future Trunks was conceived by a non Super Saiyan Vegeta
I don't think we KNOW that but either way Trunks had even more potential than Future Gohan AND a big part of Goten and Trunks' insane growth is actually their peaceful life, which made going SSJ mega easy for them.
Also growing up around Kamicollo and SSJ2 Gohan level guys just is better for their own growth rather than a gimped Future Gohan.
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>>576385847
They are a pretty awful couple and retconning Mai in the future timeline opened a whole other can of worms where she's the cause of everybody staying dead in that timeline. Not to mention retroactively ruining Future Trunks' character.
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>>576464545
You talk like you use Tumblr
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>>576460708
And it was soulful, back from the days when memes were good.
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>>576468202
Shit then, shit now
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>>576439427
Then you can COPE, because that haggy filler form has been erased forever.
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>Same XV3 Demo at TGS
JAJAJA
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why haven't he have been added to every other games yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y9yYdslWoE
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>>576432870
>Filtered by comfy quests
But bet you'll be doing the boring ass PQs in XV3
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>>576413995
Bulma was actually smoking (heh) hot here. Milf Bulma>>>>any other bulma
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Post EoZ Chi-Chi
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There's one version tgat that trumps all of these
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SSJ Bardock is available for free as a 7 day login bonus for Squadra.
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New
>>576475379
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>>576475402
you made this way too early you idiot
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>>576468202
Dubshit is never soulful.
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Ah fuck, it really is the same shitty demo we've already seen for xenoverse 3 at Gamescom the only new thing i gonna be a new trailer, I wonder how far away from release this game actually is
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>>576465779
Personal experience I'm assuming.
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Ive been having a ton of fun on sparking playing dp battle with Bardock/Fasha/King Vegeta/Tora. When fasha and tora die i go ssj with bardock. I dont know why but this is the funnest ive had playing the game in like a year.
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why haven't General Blue have been added to every other games yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y9yYdslWoE
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>>576477273
Same, I love this DLC. I’ve been playing the game for hours since it dropped
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Is there no Rosé transformation in XV2 Revamp?
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>>576460004
Doesn't the pompadour guy have a moving tail? It might be an option.
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We love Trunks and Mai here.
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>>576482574
Based
>>576477310
Cause he's GAY
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>>576377998
>that Onia chick from the Broly movie had blue hair
That made people theorize she wasn't a saiyan but some kind of client race of the saiyans.
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>>576475402
What are you on, bro? This thread won't archive until nearly 800 posts in.
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>>576475402
Are you a 300 bump limit board tourist?
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>>576483015
Maybe a /co/ or /a/ crossposter? I think they have a lower bump limit there
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dodorias hidden final boss is bardock naturally, also i think these hidden bosses have max stats? or maybe max sp
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>>576476880
Don't act like Tien shouting "TIEN TIME" wasn't at least a little cool
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>>576489392
I would act like it because it wasn't. It was neither heartfelt nor genuine, it was just irony slop.
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>>576489392
I'm honestly not even sure what you're referring to because I don't listen to the dub
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>>576489392
I liked it. Think he did that in BT2 and 3
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>>576489532
>>576490498
Here. You just hate a bit of levity
https://files.catbox.moe/qh4p3m.mp4
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>>576492131
Oh, that's so dumb
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haven't played sparking zero since january and haven't kept up with the dlc
seeing all this shit now tho? might have to reinstall...
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>>576492131
>levity
>It's just irony cringe.
Levity is supposed to be genuine, faggot.
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>>576492630
What's so ironic about it? He's alliterating his name. It's not that serious
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>>576470805
Thougts?
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>>576493131
When did Chichi look like the one down from Piccolo Goku fight?
Peak cute
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>>576493329
meant to reply to>>576470805
But I do agree with top right being one of her best
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>>576493131
>>576493438
Late Z>>>Early Z
Also her best look isn't pictured
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>>576470805
So we have:
>Chichi (Teen)
>Chichi (Teen) Wedding
>Chichi (Early)
>Dream Chichi (Early)
>Chichi (Mid)
>Chichi (Mid again)
>Chichi (Mid one more time)
>Chichi (End)
>Chichi (End) (Fuckable)
>Chichi (End) (More Fuckable)
>Chichi (End) (MOST Fuckable)
>Chichi (GT) (Uglier than SYN)
Personally, I like Chi-Chi (End) the most
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>>576492865
>What's so ironic about it?
It's literally 'Aren't we so goofy, unserious and ridiculous! We know this is dumb and we're leaning on it!' humor
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>>576495319
at this point i think they get it wrong on purpose if random Pedro can do it properly and they don't
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>>576490931
my hero
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>>576494970
Goofiness? In MY Dragon Ball game? Perish the thought!
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>>576496761
>My irony reddit humor is the same as goofiness!
No.
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>>576492131
No I just want them to translate what the characters actually said and for the voice actors to read those lines
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>>576494739
>Chichi (GT) (Uglier than SYN)
Bullshit.
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Jesus that health bar
Needless to say he fucked my shit up shortly after this was taken
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>>576496761
Toriyama has never once made those kind of cringe insecure 'jokes'.
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>>576498096
I just realized, what if they're set to level 1000 baseline? I remember beating one (I wanted information on a mode that wasn't giving me any so alt-f4 is a friend) and going from early/mid 200s to the 300s. And yeah, good luck on dealing with SSB Goku AI.
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>>576498096
Our HERO won!
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>>576498513
I wouldn't be surprised. A combo alone cost me a health bar. This Black is only level 320
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>Anons this upset at the mere mention of "Tien Time"
My FUARKING Hero...
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>>576410541
Keep up the good work, Anon.
>I'm working on 4 though 7 right now.
Jesus, how many of these do you plan on doing?
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>>576500443
Except Tenshinhan never said anything like that
>FUARKING
Oh that explains it
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>>576410541
Based
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>>576500443
it's really simple man.
people just want the localizers and translators to translate what the original script said and give it to the voice actors to read.
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Is the new SZ game mode any fun or is it just more Mission 100 artificial difficulty slop where every enemy has 20 stacks of damage up and super armor?
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>>576505513
It’s slop. Go spend your 40 dollars on something else that’s actually worth it.
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>He actually spent money buying the new DLC
CreamAPI/Cream Installer will unlock all the DLC for you for free.
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>>576505513
It's fun
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>>576505513
Fun if you keep yourself to the lower levels (200 preferably to have 5 battle arts) and don't aim for higher levels because level scaling will break your sanity (barring a Panzy/Babidi special fight since their AIs are potato). If you are not comfortable fighting against Super/Ultra level AI than you will get fucked since that's what the AI is mostly locked too (again, barring some weird exceptions like Panzy/Whis/Beerus/Champa sort of where you can super duel to victory).
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>>576505513
It's definitely worth the money
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>>576505513
I don't think it's worth $35 and heavily disagree with the anons saying Neo is basically "a sequel game" so it's worth paying for.
It has like two new modes that should have been in the base game, and some characters and costumes that again, should have been in the base game.
It's fun but I wouldn't pay for it, especially given the greedy Ultimate edition fiasco that has normies in an uproar leaving the game at only 44% positive reviews.
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Make your samefagging a little less obvious
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>>576505513
This is the only dbz movie I havent watched.
Is it any good?
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>>576507509
If you like Goten and Trunks sure
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80 year old child btw
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT NED!!
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>>576510829
A lot of people said the anime sexualized her, but did they really? Her clothes are tight but that's not evil
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>>576505513
>Is the new SZ game mode any fun or is it just more Mission 100 artificial difficulty slop where every enemy has 20 stacks of damage up and super armor?
I have 51 hours of playtime since the DLC came out, mostly in the new mode. The new AI is indeed really hard but once you get the hang of it you realize it leaves itself open a lot more than what it initially seems, and even if you can't the nature of the mode means you can just keep doing events instead of battles till you can just over level them, which makes things much easier
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>>576510948
Not even doom could save him
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SS4 Broly mod for Sparking Zero. It's in early access. It could be better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i833SrJDKHI
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>>576516240
looks like a whole lot of reused animations to me
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>>576510948
Nedbros...
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>>576495319
What mod is this?
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Does stamina affect how much HP you start each fight with?
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>>576516240
There's many of those on GB already, including the Heroes version with black fur and a DB or w/e.
None of them are in EA either, they're fully availablle for free.
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>>576523098
yes
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Dragon Ball Community and Fandom needs "General Blue" back for every games, honest.
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>>576516240
Only third worlders care about these fanfic non canon transformations
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>>576507170
>It has like two new modes that should have been in the base game
If they were, they would've been underbaked and low effort like the modes at launch. Besides, sequel games usually tend to add one or two modes.
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>>576495319
right feels like a sonic character
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gee thanks for the Super Dragon Balls, now I can wish for more zeni
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>>576536321
They were already underbaked and low effort. Mission 100 alone was a glitched mess for a while when it first came out
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>10 million people downloaded Gekishin

That's a lot more people than I expected
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>>576537403
On the playstore or something?
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>>576482574
I love Kamin.
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>>576537950
Oh yeah, forgot it was a mobile game
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You ever sloppa your xenoverse donut steal?
Mine powered up so hard she gained extra fingers.

https://files.catbox.moe/tg0dna.webm
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>>576542880
NEED boss wife...
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As the kind of autist into that sort of thing sparking zero’s biggest failing is that the cpu is dogshit at fighting itself.
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>>576542585
Yes when I was trying out Grok/Bing, but I'm too embarrassed to post it, and Grok and Bing fell off HARD too
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>>576544180
Even after the update?
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>>576546452
Still not great from what I’ve seen
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>>576546531
That's a shame, from how strong it is to fight against, I'd have expected cool stuff
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>>576546531
That's lame.
I remember the BT3 guys who do streamed CPU vs CPU tournaments tried doing it on launch for Sparking Zero and the CPU was so horrible and broken and would just get stuck and etc.
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>>576547538
The better combat mod makes it a little better but it’s still not bt3 levels
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>>576548501
Nice armpit
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>>576548501
She looks like a slut
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>>576544180
i'm getting the feeling it's a little too reliant on reading your inputs to actually work properly with another cpu
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For that guy who asked if the manga was gonna come back.
He got it.
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>>576507170
lmfao you wouldn't have survived the Raging Blast brand
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You better watch out, baby who's that?
Don't look now, there's a monkey on your back.
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>>576550589
I'm guessing he's been drawing chapters this entire time, Shueisha just hasn't been letting him release it for some reason.
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>>576551391
I don't think that's how that works, I wonder if that's even "legal" considering he's still an employee. Also he probably doesn't know when serialization will resume so imagine if he did the first new chapter 3 months ago and the manga doesn't come back until 2027, I'm sure he would like to redraw it by them since he would have had more practice and all.
I say he may plan to be one or two months/issues ahead but nothing else, the idea of having most if not all of the new arc chapters done already seems crazy.
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>>576505513
The DLC is pretty good, though "worth the money" is debatable. It's certainly a better product than the shitty season pass. The new mode has an element of bullshit if you choose to interact with it in certain ways, but you can get around it, as well. I found out the hard way that low DP characters are especially gimped. However, that gets easier to play around as you learn how the mode works.

Personally, I think it's cool to see which bosses were assigned to a character, and it's neat that they seem to have recorded a ton of new dialogue for boss intros.
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>>576550589
It's clear Toyotaro wants to continue but can't for some reason
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>>576554381
The reason being that he's an employee and Shueisha doesn't want him to do the Super manga right now, probably because they don't trust him on his own because he really has 0 credentials outside of Toriyama handholding him and they look down on him for being from the doujin / fanfiction scene, which many suits sees as profiting from their IPs.
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>>576554381
>>576554604
That and they're probably waiting to see if Iyoku's plans with the remakes and Galactic Patrol arc go well before deciding what to do with him and the IP and if they can push him out or not.
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>>576550589
I wonder how long until wherever comes in the manga is animated, they still have years of content with Moro, Granolah, SH, maybe Broly and of course the remastered arcs.
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>>576554604
Let's say they decide to not move forward with Toyotaro, do you think that'll be it for the Super manga or would they find a replacement?
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>>576554604
Why are you talking out of your ass? Oishi and Lee were doujinshi artists too, Oishi did fucking KakaVege porn
>inb4 but they didn't work in main DB so...
Higher ups don't give a shit about Super being the continuation of DB, don't fool yourself, they aren't worried about Toyotaro dropping the ball, specially not when the arc where he had the most influence (GPP) is being animated
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>>576555160
Not him, but it seems like the ideal way to go right now is video game what if stories considering the successes of Xenoverse, Heroes, Dokkan and Legends, on top of remaking older content.
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>>576550589
Man at this point I just need to know what the new arc is about, give me whatever Toriyama was planning with Toyotaro when he passed, then you can take another year if you want but tell me what the fuck is next for Goku.
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>>576551391
I suspect the main reason is them taking more interest in it now that they've decided to start adapting some of it into the main canon.
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>>576555816
>but tell me what the fuck is next for Goku.
A day before EoZ, Freeza invades Earth, shows his new Black Golden Freeza form, beats up everyone including Goku/Vegeta fusions, gathers the dragons balls, uses them to get 10cm taller, then leaves.
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>>576555315
>Oishi and Lee were doujinshi artists too, Oishi did fucking KakaVege porn
Yeah and did you see make their own canon DB mangas on their own with no input from Toriyama? No, they were relegated to promotional stuff and side spin offs, like Toyotaro currently is.
>>576555160
Depends. If they want to continue the manga instead of just passively getting money from whatever Iyoku does, yeah, they'll replace him like it's nothing, maybe even convince Toriyama's son to slap his name onto the manga for legitimacy like Kishimoto does with Boruto.
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>>576555816
There is no 'new arc' as far as we know. And knowing Toriyama, if he wasn't actively working on one as one of his many projects he talked about before dying, there's not even notes or plans for one.
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>>576550589
The post has 1.4k rts and 13.1 likes in just one hour, you can tell DB fans are STARVING for more Super
Fuck Shueisha
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>>576556489
He must be stopped!
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bring me human men or I will destroy this thread
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>>576558394
what do you want with them
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>>576558625
Repopulate the saiyan race
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>>576556489
Go back to the afterlife Tori-sensei
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>>576556854
Toyotaro explicitly mentioned stuff Toriyama left behind for Super, dumbass
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>>576556705
Now read the part you ignored because I predicted you would use that non-argument
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>>576558394
>tempts to brush tail
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>>576558394
But we are the human men!
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>>576371452
Soulless.
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>>576373231
hahahahahahahaha
lol
rofl
hahahahahaha
lmao
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>>576542585
I've tried but I'm a brianlet when it comes to AI and any lora I train spits out 3D instead of 2D
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>>576542585
>You ever sloppa
No because I'm not an embarrassing manchild.
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>>576564561
You're on 4chan, lying.
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>>576537403
This is from the same company that has bots in 80% of ranked matches.
10 million people my ass.
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>>576420068
>>576502248
Thank you. As always, I will take any criticism, advice, or ideas.
>>576501149
I don't really have a set number or even really much of a plan outside of the vague idea that I want a Super 17 arc, which I'm starting, and eventually a ToP arc. Mostly just playing it by ear, while working around whatever DLC we get, some arbitrary guidelines I set for myself, and whatever stupid idea happens to come to me, while working. I just happened to have ideas for the next four come to me, while finishing the third.
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>>576542585
Not my cacs but I did make this
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>>576562165
What Toyotaro says has never mattered.
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>>576562928
>Now read the part where I pretended to mind read executives I don't know because even I realized my argument was awful.
Already did, doesn't change anything. They've never put any of them on a canon project on their own or at all.
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>>576572167
Nice art
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>>576352981
Yeah. They beat reality ending gods a lot in their games, so 2 at once would be too much.
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>>576572208
The dragon ball series really is dead then...
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>>576381481
I would think there's a portion of fans that believes that.
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>>576550589
>For that guy who asked if the manga was gonna come back.
>He got it
Toyo is bullshitting.
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>>576572167
hot
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Would 16 be a legitimate candidate for a Super Robot Wars rep?
Cell MAX is definitely the kind of bullshit you end up fighting in the end game of a SRW game but it'd be a shame if an enemy encounter was DB's only rep.
Maybe Jaco with his spaceship?
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>>576569998
Brother, you can't just post something like this and not also draw her in this dress from the back.
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I like to think my cac flirts with pretty women when I'm away from the game and gets in trouble for it, which explains the 0/1, 0/2 losses in auto-patrol when I log in later
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>>576574714
Based
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I like to think my cac is eating all the food when I'm away
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>>576575064
You just know Chronoa gets drunk off her ass and accidentally adds to some poor bastard's duties the next day
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>>576574250
Maybe, though he seems a bit too humanoid. The farthest they've gone from the usual robot lineup are kaiju and suited heroes. I feel like these could possibly fit:
>Oolong (Mech form)
>Pilaf Machine
>Mai Machine
>Shu Machine
>Combined Pilaf Machine
>Pirate Robot
>Officer Black (Battle Jacket)
>Giant Piccolo
>Dr Wheelo
>Giant Slug
>Cyclopian Guards
>Core Meta-Cooler
>Great Saiyaman
>Fat Janemba
>Hirudegarn
>Magetta
>Giant Bergamo
>Bororeta
>Kotsukai
>Panchia
>Koiceareta
>Anilaza
>Narirama
>Katopesla
>Ribrianne
>Kakunsa
>Rozie
>Gamma 1
>Gamma 2
>Cell Max
>Ribet
>Bizu
>Natt
>Sigma
>Papayaman
>Tamigama 1
>Tamigama 2
>Tamigama 3
>Giant Gomah
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>>576564561
Embarrassment is a made-up term by jealous humans. It doesn't exist.
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I know realize that Gekishin Squadra doesn't have any Dragon Ball collection/wish mechanic, which is sort of a Dragon Ball game staple.
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>>576482574
>Drops her spaghetti from holding hands
cute
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>>576575325
A lot of those fit mobs or bosses (Pirate Robots would make perfect early level mooks) but not really reps.
Great Saiyanman? You're sure? Wasn't Devilman in because he could turn giant? Same for Ultraman and Gridman? Did they have a human sized superhero dude yet?
I guess Piccolo could fit if you bullshit a reason for why he goes giant every fight. Especially since he can grow to Gundam size or to Super Robot size at will.
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>>576576045
>any Dragon Ball collection
You fight over DBs. They probably felt it was close enough for a multiplayer only game with no story or campaign. (I feel like the game could use some sports-like seasonal narratives. Maybe adding commentators like Blood Bowl?)
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>>576577206
I dunno if it counts, but the mobile games had Gavan and Megaman, SRWJ and W had Tekkaman, SRW30 had Netflix Ultraman, and SRWY has Kamen Rider W.
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>>576577040
60 year old virgin
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>>576577281
In many games DB collection has little to do with plot, it's just a reward system and once you get 7 you have a wish.
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>>576577975
Oh, it should definitely count then.
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Has Super Divers done anything cool yet?
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>>576579585
lol
nope
Here's the SOLE alt-art card in the latest set.
Give them another 2-4 years before they start to do anything interesting.
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Toyotaro has now got a year until the Kid turns 8.
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XV2 got a small update, it's probably a fix but I wonder what all they changed
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>>576572318
Surely you realize trying to discredit me for "mind reading executives I don't know" is retarded when you are doing the same right, you projecting dumbass?
The only difference is that I know executives don't have love for the brands they are in charge of while this escapes your mind for some reason.
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>>576575496
>a made-up term
All terms are made up, you imbecile.
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>>576590056
>Me trying to play mind reader to justify the opposite of what we see is that same as you pointing out obvious fact like Toyotaro and none of the doujins guys working on anything beyond spin offs and promotional stuff on their own
No, not really.
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>>576550589
I was gonna play devil's advocate and say technically the kid didn't say he wanted Toyo back FOR Super so maybe Toyotaro was just like
>Don't worry I will draw some stuff!
But Toyotaro practically never replies to mentions and this was a quote so everyone can see it, this shit is 100% for all the people waiting for the manga return
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>>576591370
>when I pretend I know the executives it's "obvious", when you notice I'm a fucking retard for thinking black suit men are sensible fans who love DB you are mindreading
Enough, get better bait
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>>576591792
>I lost the argument so it was bait
>The objective fact that none of the people named have had their own independent canon DB manga is 'mind reading' because I needed to go 'no u'.
Sour grapes.
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>>576572208
>-if we haven't been told about Toriyama working on this before dying then there's nothing!
>+Great, because we have been told Toriyama was working on this.
>-d-doesn't count!
Kay
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Someone got the muscular Toyotaro pic?
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>>576593379
>The word of someone that's just some employee isn't the same as Toriyama's own word on what he was doing.
Yes, that's just the truth. Toyotaro literally has no influence on any project or even the future of the very manga he was drawing.
It sucks but that's just the life when you don't make your own franchise, just ask anyone working at Marvel or DC.
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Going by how publishing works for hired artists, Toyotaro will probably barely know the manga is back earlier than us.
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>>576594106
>Toriyama's own word
Oh damn I didn't know Toriyama said "I have absolutely zero ideas or things planned, or even discussed in regards of what comes after the SH arc in the manga, zero"
Good to know schizo, good to know
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>>576596427
>You are a schizo because I can't read. Saying we don't know because he didn't say anything is the same as saying the complete opposite because I'm butthurt about losing the previous argument.
Sure, buddy.
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The lone Toyofag is back and extra mad today? Damn.
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did Ooishi or Toriyama design Chilled? I think his design is funny and great
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>>576596081
I am if that makes you feel any better. I never run it myself though because of course people ignore me.
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Sparking Zero is having a patch tomorrow with confirmation the AI is being looked at later. Any idea what dialogue lines they'd be intending to update?
>Links
https://www.bandainamcoent.com/news/dragon-ball-sparking-zero-update-notice-august-7-2026
https://x.com/dragonballgames/status/2085274952480018550

>Hopes
So Ultra AI feels good to fight for me and there's two main things I fear. One, rush supers: for some reason they try to perception them or something and eat them raw a lot, if we take away some of their consistency from vanishing these on knockback to you know, not needing to trade supers, that'd be nice. And volleys: Please don't fucking return them to the old AI where those attacks functionally didn't exist. I get they are piss easy to dodge but it'd suck if half the vegetas, Super 17, A18, etc. all lost 1-2 blasts when playing offline. Like Flash Bomber might not be the gentlemanly 30 second machine-gun ear-rape of Hell Storm but it's still cool seeing the hit counter go brr.
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>>576600706
We don't know. Could be neither.
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Buu's Japanese Replacement actor
https://youtu.be/Tj8582hmLyk
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>>576603543
>One of the roles is Patrick
Huh
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>>576603543
>Winnie-the-Buu
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>>576603543
This is like Yamcha's replacement voice actor, who's impersonating the original, but is not quite there. The Fat Buu's voice sounds deeper, maybe a little raspier. Not sure how to describe Super Buu's...
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>>576600758
I was thinking of ways to bait people to come transform - so my thought was i could run Thanks with it and go full Thanksmaxxing by running bulma bike + floating device + ee skills + expert bike item recovery - use this setup to get myself a private stache of cd drinks + rush keys and then whenever i need someone to come be thankful i ping a cd next to me - set up a thankful on top of it and wait. I've done similar strats with heal builds or just running Cook with ITYJTO - when you rez someone you can force them to be thankful and just pinging the food from Cook in a loot cave during STM will get them to come.
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>>576603543
Welp, Dragon Ball's getting banned in China now
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>>576603543
lel youtube automatically had the auto-dub on when I clicked the video and I just hear in an english robotic female voice "hey, are you an enemy of satan?"
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>>576603543
Jesus fucking christ, this Kanuka guy's Super Buu impression is such a massive downgrade.
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>>576603043
thought this was some kind of horrific bardock-head-on-kale's-body mod from the thumbnail.
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>>576613829
Dammit I can’t unsee it
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>>576613490
It's not bad, he just needs to tweak it a little
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>>576615068
NTA, but the way he speaks as either Buu just doesn't sound as natural imo. It is something he can improve of course. DB VAs typically put less effort in games anyway.
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>>576596565
>makes a claim
>fails to back it up
>shits his pants and yells everyone is the same person
Yup that's our Luigi
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>>576616373
Agreed. Well they are old, i don't think most VAs go all out in a video game
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>>576603543
That got me thinking, characters and their transformations have the same bosses and dialogue right? I do wonder if the lines are re-recorded for a few characters, because in Japanese, Freeza changes his speech pattern per form (Anon said first form speaks with perfect Japanese politeness, second speaks like a thug, third like a creep, fourth like a bratty child), and super Buu sounds less rudimentary as Buutenks and Buuhan because of Piccolo.
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>>576618438
Dialogue is always in base form, if you pick third form Frieza for example you will still be flying around the map and talking to enemies in First Form but start battles as Third
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>>576507509
it's the only Z movie with 18 in a somewhat prominent role. that's about the only positive thing that I can say
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>>576402481
you just know it's all casuals who only watched the first arc when Rukia was crashing at Ichigo's house.
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>>576507509
Bottom of the barrel tier, only watch it if you want more material to slander Zly since the clone is, according to the director, stronger than the original one.
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>>576631290
>since the clone is, according to the director, stronger than the original one.
Kek really? That clone had the worst performance out of all Broly movies...
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>>576635887
He said all movie villains are meant to be stronger than the previous one, and in another statement the same thing was said but making an exception with Janenba.
Obviously Bio-Broly was ultimately hindered by his messy biology making him weak to SALT WATER of all things but power wise he was still supposed to be the strongest Broly ever until we got into vidya-what if stuffs and DBS
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>>576636428
>and in another statement the same thing was said but making an exception with Janenba.
That still means Bojack was stronger than M8 Broly, and Hirudegarn is stronger than both M10 Broly and Bio-Broly... And you have to ignore the actual performance too since Janemba handled SS3 Goku far better than Bio Broly handled Goten and Trunks tag teaming him. SS1 Goten and SS1 Trunks > SS3 Goku I guess kek.

>>576636428
>making him weak to SALT WATER of all things
And it gave him a healing factor for some reason, since Kienzan cut his neck but he healed.
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It's really just not fun when the AI perfect blocks and perfect vanishes almost every single time as the base difficulty level of the new mode.

Genuinely feels like I'm fighting online Z rank sweat lords no matter what the SP rating of the CPU is.
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Shut up bitch
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Did Heroes ever do much with Super's multiverse? I remember there being universe 6 tuffles and them going to Universe 3 but that's it.
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I still hope we get a full DB world map like Kakarot and DBO gave us, with some small areas for any planet they might add (preferably Namek, Sadala, Yardrat, land of the kais, pieces of the 3 demon realms, etc).

I'd even be okay with the rest of the world just being very small hubs but the game just taking place in West City is lame. And not only does it miss the point of XV3 being a "whole new dragon ball world" but it's also a missed opportunity to see how all these places turned out 200 years later. How's the demon realm under king Kuu's reign? What's future Sadala like? What are the yardrats up to, and so on.
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>>576333232
gonna kiss her tum
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>>576648356
They didn't do much, at most they did some parodies (having a small mission arc based around the April Fools Day joke of universe survival saga becoming the Society Survival Saga, where the Universe 7 fighters wear business suits instead of their normal clothes) and gave a couple of characters new forms (like giving Xeno Trunks Super Saiyan God, instead of SS4 like the rest of the Xeno crew).
The closest to a new form is Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker, which is (as of the death of Heroes) the most powerful version of the SS4 line and is acquired (aside from Broly and his rage-hax) through Saiyans with God Ki transferring their energy to a Saiyan that's SS4
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amusingly, Super Saiyan God Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Break Goku Xeno still loses to Ultra Instinct Goku
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>>576649513
And for shits 'n gigs, here's Broly as a Legendary SFPS4LB
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>>576649513
>Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker
>acquired (aside from Broly and his rage-hax) through Saiyans with God Ki transferring their energy to a Saiyan that's SS4
So it's just SS4 with God Ki?
Then why the fuck did they give it such a retarded name instead of "Super Saiyan 4 God" or anything like that?
What the fuck were they smoking man.
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>>576649513
I meant with the story, like in the anime/manga.
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>>576651319
Super Full Power Saiyan 4 (called 'Ultra Full Power Saiyan 4' in the Japanese dub) is an enhanced version of SS4 that first popped up in episode 22 of GT when Pan, Goten, Gohan and Trunks gave energy to Goku to power him up against Great Ape Baby. So blame 90s Toei for that shitshow of a name.
Limit Breaker just adds God Ki to the mix, which changes their hair and fur colour, and has a cooler aura.
IMG: SFPS4LB Vegito
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>>576649513
>>576650829
God Broly is a thing, so why shouldn't he get it?
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>>576652342
>Pan
Not needed.
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>>576617526
>Lose argument
>Try again from a different angle only to lose again
>Get desperate and try sassy schizo babble
Sorry your attempt at mind reading failed to make a compeling argument in face of reality.
You mean the claim that Toyotaro never worked on a canon DB project on his own and neither did the other? That claim was backed up by the entire Shueisha company as you can see.
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>>576636428
>>576637747
Clone Broly was designed to be stronger than the regular Broly that died in Second Coming due to a beam struggle that included a probably Super Saiyan 2 Gohan that never stopped training
However due to being not suited completely for staying outside, his body and likely his power/strength fell apart with the fluid allowing him to live but likely did not recovered his power which allowed Goten and Trunks to have a shot at him without dying immediately
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>>576656119
kek
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>>576427115
>is still calling this guy: Dark Goku (Goku Oscuro)
That sounds perfectly fine. Arguably better than "Goku Black".
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https://youtu.be/QjppPP0XtlI?t=118
>"How rude!" is a line Freeza used to say in games when getting beaten up back when he was voiced by Linda Young
>Bring her back to voice Celipa again
>Awkwardly have Celipa say it to Freeza
I wouldn't mind it as much if it made sense with the context, but, "How rude! You betrayed us!" just makes no sense. The localizers care more about memes and references than making sense...
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>>576665107
Miss that short period of time where Funi cared about have good acting AND accurate dialogue. Basically the first run of Kai.
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>>576665107
why does Fasha know what a pillowfight or a sleepover is? do saiyan girls do that?
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What was Selypa's power level you think?
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>>576667712
at or below Raditz, so in the low four digits.
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>>576666085
Saiyans know many forms of fighting
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>>576667712
Going with a generous 4000.
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>>576669003
Just did a Google search, and apparently this is closer to Bardock's canon PL. But since she's clearly based on the TV special version, I'm sticking with that answer.
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>>576666085
"Why are Raditz' attacks named after days of the week on Earth?" These are the questions you shouldn't ask about saiyans.
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>>576669601
at least with that you can suspend your disbelief (like with the characters speaking Japanese) and just infer that Planet Vegeta also had seven days in a week.
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>>576667712
Sub-1k/below Saibamen tier. Most Saiyan soldiers were fodder; Raditz was actually an upper-level fighter and one of the strongest Saiyan warriors which is why he was with Vegeta and Nappa to begin with. Raditz and Nappa were the same class according to multiple Toriyama interviews. Bardock and his crew are considered low-class.
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>Fasha
Unforgivably atrocious dubshit name
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>>576669853
>at least with that you can suspend your disbelief
Not really, just assume the Gods just spread a uniform system like the language.
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>>576670370
>Sub-1k/below Saibamen tier.
Impossible, otherwise she'd have been sent as an Infiltration Baby.
>Raditz was actually an upper-level fighter
Which is the bare minimum to be a combattant instead of a worker or an infiltration baby, that's still low class and as weak as saiyans go.
>one of the strongest Saiyan warrior
This is not true at all.
>Raditz and Nappa were the same class according to multiple Toriyama interviews
That's not what he said, he said Vegeta was the boss because he was royalty and the strongest while Raditz and Nappa were both just underlings.
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>>576667712
Probably around 2000.
Raditz was particularly weak at around 1K and we saw a random Saiyan sniper with a PL of 2K in DBS Broly. As an active fighter that's never presented or called out as weak, she should be closer to the later.
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>>576667712
Saiyan women belong to human men
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>>576669003
That'd be Paragus / Nappa level and they were mid class, no?
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>>576672380
Though a full power focused Nappa was apparently at 6K.
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>>576671998
Toriyama word-for-word refers to Raditz as
>an upper-level warrior assigned to the same group as Nappa as a proper combatant
He’s with Nappa because he’s upper-level. They’re both mid-class, and Toriyama states that there were only 10 mid-class warriors. Vegeta and his father were the only elites. Almost all Saiyans were low-class.
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Toriyama and worldbuilding are like oil and water.
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>>576673172
Dude, he says 'was an upper level warrior AND assigned to the same group as Nappa as a proper combattant', that doesn't mean he is the same as Nappa.
>They’re both mid-class,
No, they're not, Toriyama didn't say that and nothing in the entire franchise say that and in fact say the opposite.
> Almost all Saiyans were low-class.
Yup, so at or above Raditz. Literally to this DAY we haven't seen a single saiyan fighter with a PL lower than Raditz.
The lowest saiyan we've seen yet was the engineer dude Paragus killed and he had a PL around 900 or some thing (he said Broly's 1000 was above him at least), which is barely below Raditz's 1200
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>>576673537
Can't blame Toriyama when it's just anon clearly misreading stuff and adding on stuff Toriyama didn't actually say.
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>>576673172
>Raditz had long hair and was assigned to the same group as Nappa so clearly both Raditz and Nappa had long hair
Is basically what you're saying.
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We already had that discussion. Multiple times.
Upper Level Warrior =/= Mid Class or Elite.
Upper Level Warrior exist in contrast to Sky Children or Non-combattant, not in contrast to Low class or any other class.
Mid Class or Elite exist in contrast to low class amongst warriors, not in contrast with non-combattant or Sky Children.
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>>576666085
Ginyu Force knows what a chocolate parfait is. Aliens know or have human things unless stated otherwise.
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>>576674543
They were all made by the same dudes and led to more or less the same civilizational path so it make sense.
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>>576669601
>>576669853
It's also video game exclusive, Raditz has no named attacks (Nor should he. Part of his point is that he can't use such techniques).
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>>576333087
erase the existence of the Spanish dub of DBZ from history
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>>576673172
>>576673558
>>576674091
What does Raditz mean when he says he's a "first class warrior"?
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>>576676159
That he's an arrogant retard when he has the advantage despite being a weakling. Same as when a minor goes 'But I'm invincible!' just before they die.
Same as Vegeta when he went 'I'm the strongest in the universe!'
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>>576676408
>Same as when a minor goes 'But I'm invincible!' just before they die.
I meant minor villain.
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So it's:
>Goku/Gine low-level low class
>Bardock/Raditz "Upper-level" low class
>Nappa Mid-class
>Vegeta/King Vegeta elite
I think the issue is some people are considering "upper-level" and "mid-class" to mean the same thing even though they're not the same term. The "upper-level" term is only described as simply being strong enough to become a combatant, sometimes right right away as a child. The "mid-class" term is described as a very exclusive rank of the strongest-of-the-strong Saiyans. "Strong enough" versus "exceptionally strong." Raditz was "upper-level," but nothing we've seen so far says he was ever "mid-class" specifically. If anything we've been told the opposite, that he squandered whatever potential his young self had and his growth stagnated. We shouldn't assume Raditz was deliberately placed into that particular combat group because he was somehow deemed worthy of the privilege of working with Nappa specifically if the Q&A tidbit doesn't actually say that. We shouldn't assume the Full-Color Q&A bit about the "pecking order" is referring to the low/mid/elite ranks if it doesn't actually mention them by name.
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>>576603543
I WANT ALL OF TO LOOK AT IT!!! https://youtu.be/3YjJJSst2Gk
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Dear god, Mira whooped my ass instantly, stupid super armor
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>>576656119
fucking lel
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>>576649513
>>576651319
>>576652342
Limit Breaker doesn't have "god ki", dumbass. Sure they give Goku and Vegeta energy in a similar fashion as the SSG ritual but UFPS4 already did that. No character in any version of the Heroes "story" every mentions godhood and mortals feel the power of the form just fine, so it's just another mortal form.
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>>576658284
Nice headcanon Zlyfag but according to the director he's stronger. He may have the massive and retarded weakness of water but in terms of power he's supposed to be stronger, if you don't like that then go complain to him.
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>>576669541
Bardock's canon PL is lower than 1500 lmao
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>>576558394
>>576558793
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>>576667712
1K at best.
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>>576677914
>Gine low-level low class
Technically, Gine is by birth like Raditz and Bardock but either stepped back on her own or was demoted to worker due to constantly fucking up during missions because she was too nice.
>I think the issue is some people are considering "upper-level" and "mid-class" to mean the same thing even though they're not the same term.
Pretty much, that seem to be the confusion some people have. You got it right overall.
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>>576688307
>Technically, Gine is by birth like Raditz and Bardock but either stepped back on her own or was demoted to worker due to constantly fucking up during missions because she was too nice.
She was an anchor on the battle field, bardock had to save her many times in the past which caused her to fall in love with him, Bardock is one of the few saiyans to take a wife let alone have some measure of care about his off spring, he's so radically different from Toei bardock because of Gine, Toei bardock didn't have a gine, he cared nothing for Goku until he saw the future that Goku would be strong and kill freiza and his super saiyan form and becoming the legendary super saiyan from the rumor that would eventually spur freiza to destroy planet vegeta is all Toei's doing and it was met with overwhelming success for the IP and for Bardock so it's no surprise that version is used much more than the canon version, the same can be said for Future Trunks, Future Gohan, Broly and Super saiyan 4, Toriyama was many things but his canonized versions of popular concepts and characters just don't hold up to Toei animation's versions of those things, it's also why I think it's laughable people want canonized versions of Android 21, Cooler and Janemba, especially with Toyotaro at the helm now that toriyama's been dead for 5 years.
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>>576689495
>for 5 years.
What kind of ChatGPT nonsense is that?
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>>576694545
I keep forgetting New York Comic Con is a thing. I'm guessing we'll get new trailers for all the games mentioned.
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>>576694545
>S H Figuarts
RELEASE A SS4 GOGETA, YOU LAZY FUCKS!
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>>576695258
I thought xenoverse 3 was already due for a trailer at gamecom 3 weeks from now
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XV3 News... Doko?
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>>576671998
>she'd have been sent as an Infiltration Baby
Oh no that would totally contradict... nothing at all.
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>the Bardock fanboy who can't deal with his favourite character being weaker than a piece of shit like Raditz is back
Sorry bro Toriyama was clear. Raditz and Nappa are the same class of warriors, the class above them was Vegeta (sr and jr) and the bottom class was trash like Bardock, Goku, Gine, etc.
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>>576700692
That'd contradict the fact she clearly wasn't one and was on Bardock's team.
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>>576701595
You know making clear you regularly get very assmad over losing this argument by bringing up random supposed anons that nobody knows about doesn't make for a very convincing argument.
Especially when we can read what you posted and see it doesn't say what you claim at all.
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>>576701595
>Toriyama was clear.
Yup, he was very clear and didn't say Raditz was a mid class warrior at all.
Raditz is still to this day the weakest saiyan we've seen outside of literal civilians and even the civilian we saw wasn't much weaker than him.
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See >>576674091
And I guess >>576677914 since he summed it up well too.
The topic has long ran dry, stop rehashing it.
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>>576677914
>>Nappa Mid-class
You can add DBS Paragus there since his PL was the same as Nappa's.
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>>576683537
I'm not even wanking Z Broly
The Director said the villains Goku fights and Goku did not fought Bio Broly, he also said that Z Broly is the strongest Movie Villain (even Janemba) since his first appearance but that is contraddicted by him losing to a Super Saiyan Goku that received energy from the others that were almost fainting
Goku and Paikuhan defeated Z Broly in hell at the end of Bio Broly, Goku did not needed Super Saiyan 3 which he used against Janemba but was useless against Super Janemba
Lastly Super Broly is far stronger than Z Broly
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fusions 2
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>>576648997
wait is that south america & australia in the dragon ball earth??
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>>576712945
Sometime people working on the franchise get lazy and just use an IRL map instead of the DB one.
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>>576712945
the great saiyaman corps facilities run on pure interdimensional spic energy
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>>576701595
>Sorry bro Toriyama was clear that [headcanon]
>Posts a quote from Toriyama that has nothing to do with the [headcanon]
Dragon Ball fans truly are an enigma. They will post a quote by the author that claims one thing, and then use it to claim something entirely different.
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>Arguing about Raditz' status post-Vegeta blowing up
Jesus Christ how is this not clear? While Vegeta and Nappa still treated Raditz like low class dirt, he was exceptional in part for being one of the only 4 saiyans left. Toriyama really didn't make it that complex.
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the real punchline is Raditz.
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>>576699501
It is, October is two months away. Plenty of time for new info.
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>>576721816
No anon there are are four, no actually five categories and Raditz is simultaneously the top of the bottom class and the weakest of them all, also the weakest saiyan ever if you don't count the other saiyans weaker than him
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Will Giran ever be playable?
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Bardock even with SSJ you're like a second form Freeza victim
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>>576721816
>Toriyama really didn't make it that complex
>he was exceptional
I guess he must have made it a little too complex if "exceptional" is the takeaway you got about Raditz.
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>>576603543
Longer video from the same guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMkdO5nmOJs
>Fat Buu is close enough
>Evil Buu sounds very different
>Super Buu is odd, the voice itself is closer to how Buutenks/Buuhan tone. While the speech pattern may be as rudimentary, the way he speaks doesn't sound as rudimentary
>Buutenks/Buuhan is close enough, he just doesn't sound as "tough" naturally
>His Kid Buu is good, sounds pretty energetic
I'll cut him some slack because DB voice actors don't tend to put as much effort in video games, and he may improve once he voices Buu in the anime, but he's struggling to separate the many Buu voices (Understandable given how different they all have), and doesn't sound as natural. Imo, his Kid Buu is his best voice. He's doing better as Buu than Bin Shimada's Piccolo Daimaoh at least...
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>>576724271
He's too sexy. The people that can't handle young Chi Chi would pass out from exhaustion seeing him.
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>>576724712
>second form
Anon Bardock would need SS3 to make Freeza go second form, otherwise first form is more than enough
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>>576726497
The point is Bardock is weak as hell regardless nigga
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>>576725262
Also, he did a video about Yamcha's new voice actor too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86dZCHN5q2w

I can honestly barely tell the difference.
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>>576727924
his face seems a lil small in the modded one
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>>576724712
the way all the extended media portrays him you'd think he was namek saga goku level at least, like this motherfucker ain't doing shit
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>>576726735
>I can honestly barely tell the difference.
Same. The new guy does a great job as Yamcha. That one I like.
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>>576726735
well that's a good sign SRW won't have to reuse amuro's lines forever then
they'll do it anyway, but they don't have to
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https://x.com/SabKun2026/status/2085705909217493374
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>>576726625
I know I know, I'm just saying he's EVEN WEAKER than what you said
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>>576673172
Add this one >>576701595 too
>Raditz is an upper level warrior with the same status as Nappa and was assigned to the same group as proper combatant. Low class saiyans (most of saiyans) on the other hand only become proper combatants if they return after conquering their first planet as infiltration babies.
That's what Toriyama said for years, idk why that guy is so fixated on his headcanon of certain low level saiyans (ie Fasha, Burdock) not being infiltration babies at first when nothing official let alone canon ever ruled out that possibility
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>>576732957
>>576730397
Fuck I need Broly to actually pull a kame in the next arc, a raw, green, sloppy kamehameha that barely looks like Roshi's technique but still a kame to show how he's slowly learning martial arts with his new saiyan bros
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>>576728071
it's cause they made the body bigger
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Reminder that the Boss DOES NOT tolerate being called a child.
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>Vs Cell Jrs
>The game has a limit of 5 characters per match so you can't select every character to fight them
>Despite having 7 slots in the character select menu, you can only pick 5
>You can only choose 3 for some reason
>Tien and Yamcha are excluded for some reason
>Vs Cell
>You can choose 5 characters despite this being solely a Gohan fight with a Vegeta assist in the manga (Anime filler had everyone assisting)
>Tien is excluded once again
I don't understand...
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>>576732957
Fucking cool.
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>>576724712
I like the Raging Blast what-if where he has a vision except not really and beats up Goten and Gohan, powerlevels be dammed.
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>>576722691
he's so dreamy...
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>>576733369
>Yamcha tm
OC donut steele
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I still can't believe these are real forms
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>>576736959
Gohan Blanco becoming canon after Goku Blanco was an unforgettable day.
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>>576733736
Damn, that dude was cake up.
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>>576736959
I think we all saw coming a new Dragon Balls-related Piccolo form for decades.
Gohan Blanco Bestia though... yeah.
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>>576736959
Slap an AF label on this and show it to someone in 2007
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Broly's really being wasted in Super. When is he gonna do SOMETHING?
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>>576737708
Soon.
Trust the plan.
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>>576733736
>When you read Multiverse/Kengan Omega
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>>576739372
GYYYAT
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>>576733736
I haven't read this shit since Gast made Vegetto his bitch after he chimped out on Bra
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>>576739482
No wonder Vomi tapped that.
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>>576739494
That was like 6 years ago. Only this year did the tournament's finals happen, and it was laughably bad.
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>>576735828
so why did they pair trunks up with someone older then his mom 0.0
i miss the gt pan x trunk ship
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>>576740496
because it's cute
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>>576740496
She's literally a child you sick fuck
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>>576740496
>Look up how much older Mai is than Bulma
>Mai was born 737
>Bulma was born 733
Toriyama...
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>>576740496
they thought it would be funny
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>>576743327
The only ones that don't find it funny are fujos
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>>576743084
Where is that from? No way Mai was meant to be 12 in her debut... In BoG she claims to be 41 while Bulma claims to be 38, so Mai is older.
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NEW THREAD
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>>576746180
>>576746180
>>576746180
>>576746180
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>>576743020
pan's cute she deserves to get railed by the royal lineage
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>>576743815
I just pulled it off the wiki but with how DB fans are they probably have 4 or 5 different sources they pulled from. Of course that would also make Bulma 45 during BoG and gave "birth" to Bulla at 47 so somthing fucky.



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