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Hoeth edition

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first for hanging out on the walls in your jammies with your buds while shooting at attackers
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Thanquol soon, friends!
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>>576416883
I thought those were pubes
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nth for Fishmen as a playable faction
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>>576417762
It's inevitable, it would be free money
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>>576417850
>>576417762
Hear me out
Space fishmen
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>>576416883
>new Geabull
???
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>>576417762
IM GOING INSANEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>576419491
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>What is it to be a 40king?
It is to be death!
>What is it to be death?
It is to be the destroyer, the end of all things.
>What is it to end life?
It is an honour, to be the executioners of the James Workshop.
>Why do we fight?
To protect the Total War and deliver strategy from the evil of the histfag, the chink and the fantasyfag!
>What is the histfag?
A blight to be purged!
>What is the chink?
A cancer to be excised!
>What is the fantasyfag?
A shame to be expunged!
>What is the bolter, the flamer, the missile?
The incarnation of destruction, by which we bring about the death of the Jame's foes!
>What is the armour, the helm and the shield?
The embodiment of our faith, our determination given form.

excerpts from "The Catechism of /twg/"
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>>576421860
based
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>>576421860
What will Valarak's "Legend career ending crashout" be?
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>>576423070
Nothing.
He isn't mentally ill.
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>>576423070
He is happy as fuck so hes nothing like legend
And also, hes a tabletop youtuber first
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>>576423070
Legend hated his fanbase and his streamer job, Valrak loves both.
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>>576423070
Can't imagine anything
He is blacklisted by GW already for constantly leaking all their projects (including non mini ones like TW40K, DoW1 remaster and DoW4), but doesn't care
He is happy and sane, doesn't seem to have depression like Legend
And even helps other, non warhammer, wargames by showcasing them
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playing the pope in m3 will be like playing tzeentch in wh3
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>>576423070
Valrak is a cheeky british lad who enjoys self deprecating humour so he is immune to the things most sloptubers crash out over
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>>576423070
Far as I've seen of this Valrak, he seems to, you know... actually genuinely like what he's doing and doing it because it's what he enjoys and making a living from it is just a happy consequence. So he won't have one.

Speaking of which, we already have plenty of TW youtubers who are most definitely enjoying being a TW youtuber and don't have barely concealed disdain for their own viewerbases, so why the fuck did Legend get so big? I never could stomach him, nor the way he played the game.
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>>576419491
What if it's the reverse and the fish people make people sane instead?
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>>576427387
that sounds like what a fishman would say
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Life feels empty. Only lotet will save me..
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do we have any info on how 40k melee will be handled?
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Now that the dust has settled
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>>576427696
nope, nothing yet
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>>576427696
a blob will touch another blob
just like the fantasy games, 1 on 1 duel animations will be cool at first, later begin to bug out with new additions, and be quietly pared away
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>>576417896
Piscean Warriors soon
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>>576428706
Cool Idoneth Deepkin
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>>576427056
Because he was "based" for speaking the "truth" about CA.
Like volound, but much less unlikable
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I'm just happy sega didn't actually murder ca and we get more games
what a strange period of time.
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>>576427696
I noticed one thing tho, the models don't seem to blob much into eachother (in the later gameplay that was taken in a more recent build).
And they also seem to focus on enveloping the unit, going as far as running to the back of the enemy unit
Gamescom will have better footage of the newer build, but I hope they unblobbed the melee combat
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Legend of Total War evolved into Legend of Gardening, he's too cool for us now
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The new CHAOS line is very cool...
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Undead Legions:
>LL
Nagash
>LH
Wallach Harkon
Dieter Helsnicht
>Lord
Liche High Priest
>Hero
Tomb Herald
>Units
Morghast Archai
Khemric Titan
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How do you deal with wanting to expand in one direction, but a faction on the opposite side declares war on you?
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>>576429321
Mirin' those knights and warriors.
The marauders... eh.
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>>576429674
more armies
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>>576429674
Well you deal with the obvious threat at hand
unless you want to challenge yourself, then you just fucking split your stacks
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>>576429674
emergency shitter + ror stack takes a piece of their land
sell it back for peace
keep a seething hatred ready for the back stabber after
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>unspottable
What does this do?
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you become transparent and unable to be seen by enemy units
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>>576432284
Stalk but better
Gotta be almost right on top of the unit to reveal it
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>>576427646
You sound grim.
Grave, even.
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The tigerman DLC coincided almost exactly with a free weekend so it's impossible to say how much player numbers actually increased due to the DLC.
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>>576427387
>IM GOING SANEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Give this tiger
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>>576427696
physical matter enters contact with another
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPIpN9OKKR4
>8th months ago
KWAB!
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>>576416883
Is this a brand new Geabull kino ? Answer me!
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>>576416883
What does that womb tattoo mean?
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>>576448316
and then you fags try to deny 40k is slowing down tww3
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>>576416883
So, uhh, ahem, which Helf LL specializes into Swordmasters?
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Clio is making it happen. The big Total War collab is coming together.
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which way white man?
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>>576449167
Left or down. 3 are pointing each way.
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>>576449167
The eastern way.
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>>576449167
I'll take whichever lore has:
>One low cost spammable damage spell to use on small clusters of infantry.
>One big damage spell to use on big clusters of infantry.
>An aoe buff/debuff to help big melee clusterfucks win.
>OPTIONAL BUT COOL: heals, wind spell for tidy straight frontlines, direct damage against single entities and elites, a long range missile.
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>>576449167
Your Dawi Runes
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>>576450848
What absolute slaanesh fanboi created those?
Pleasure, excess, gluttony, wealth, desire, pride, ambition.. and partly joy and jubilation..
That's all Slaanesh.
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>>576451454
What about war?
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>>576449167
Fire, always fire.
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>>576452224
War is Khorne tho one could argue war is all the chaos gods.
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40k will save this place.
40k will destroy this place.
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>>576448814
I expect 40k next year given the pace they're at. Could even be summer or something. Dubious spring but it's possible.

Honestly I can see WH3 being 'the future of' to a degree. I expected an Archaon end calamity but they're folding that into this DLC instead of having it be separate. What's left is relatively light. You can pad it out, make up stuff for Cathay, but if we are not at the end you can see the end from here.

>>576429321
I wish we'd get their norscans. They look like proper chaos marauders not people who lost their way to the leather club.
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>>576452875
My prediction is that once ET releases they dont do big dlcs anymore, they will release monkey king, li dao, egrimm and bretonnia rework and see what it goes from there, I suppose they will leave an skeleton crew to release character packs every 3 months or so
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Anon was a liar liar pants on fire. Rogue trader is buggy as all hell.
I just hope the dialogues aren't too important cause I can't be assed to read all of that. I just click through.
Mm..
I like how stupid the NPCs are. I boarded some space station to get a navigator and there was this weird lady and 2 dudes fighting over her. I got so fucking pissed off by all their talking I went
>this conversation is over, hand over the bottle caps *VATS noise*
..killed both of em and she was screeching like
>ahhh you a monster don't touch me
and after a loading she was sucking my dick
>omg you my savior thank u
Like.. I think I killed ur people and ur dad or whatever but aight.
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W40k will flop, CA will go bankrupt and in the final stream basedtek will bring a chained grace on stream and rape her live on top of legend’s sudoku’d corpse

Screencap this
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>>576458624
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>>576444843
EMIYA alter killed this bitch
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>>576450848
I miss the menangerie...
And my tribute hall, and the forges...
RAPE BUNGIE
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>>576449167
I think metal and high are the best all around
Death is also very good
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can't believe Clio was the mortal Sartosa autist all this time...
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>>576464521
Clio, my hagess...
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>passtroon is illiterate
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>>576417896
40k has you covered
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will Grand Cathay get more dlc?
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>>576465304
MONKE KANG
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>>576465186
that's a fishwoman
also she's a scratcher, digs her claws in when she orgasms.
this is canon in warhammer 40k by the way, in her game she'll actually apologise for it
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>>576465186
that's the retard npc I was yappin about earlier!
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>>576466291
More like sheltered. But either way, she's one of the strongest characters in the game. I hope you enjoy Rogue Trader. I didn't find it too buggy
But if you dislike
>text text text
Then you are going to have a bad time with a crpg
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>>576466969
I guess I can use her to replace the psyker I start with cause that one sucks ass.. she and my main character just stand afk in every battle. The tank dudes does everything by himself and the sister sometimes kills something I guess.
Had it countless times where during little animation sequences bodies would just twitch around randomly so the game locked itself, waiting for the NPC to reach his destination for the sequence to play out but it never did.
No, I love RPGs. I mean, I played fallouts countless times, Divinity 2 is like one of my fav games ever, Gothic 2 and 3 were my childhood, played Mass Effect a trillion times.. and more. This game just has the Balding Gate 3 sickness of dialogue so fucking long that I stop caring. But it's not AS BAD as bg3.. in that game, me and my mate legit threw a coin and the loser had to do the talking for the day while the other played phone games.. longest talking session I once had there was 2 fucking hours nonstop. That game is 0/10.
The whole
>run around this enormous ship and talk to 20 people who all have 2000 things to say
really got on my nerves. That was too much.
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>>576466969
I refused to run cassia on my 2nd and 3rd runs because i find her too overpowered
Game was still a cakewalk, only hard fight in the entire game is Aurora and only in the highest difficulties
Rogue trader combat/encounter design is pretty dogshit, almost as bad as it was in the pathfinder games.
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>>576467694
lel, I can't imagine playing BG3 co-op for the reason you describe with the dialogue

You get a lot of people to talk to in the beginning, but they will run out of things to talk about pretty quickly. It's like WOTR when you get to the city, suddenly you have a lot of people to talk about, but beyond the initial stuff they don't have much to say. Some will obviously get more stuff to say as the story progresses but it's gradual

>>576467726
I guess. I found it pretty hard to wrap my head around the talents in RT, you get so many level ups so the talents are so minor increases in power, but they add up. I ended up very powerful, but unlike Pathfinder I felt very lost in that regard. Also hard to compare weapon types to each other, and how effective they are

I think all companions get pretty powerful, but Cassia is definitely the easiest one to find a good use for. Especially early on. She was such a crutch for me
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>>576466969
Why are you engaging with the retarded passfag to talk about an off topic game in /twg/
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loli footjobs
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>>576468568
I pissed off the priest and now he refuses to talk to me..
...and I forgot where to find injuries. I found the window yesterday.
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>>576468568
I agree on the talents but most of the power in the game comes from the items and playing the momentum game, once you get the first heroic act out you pretty much win the game
It's also very easy to build quadrillion dodge tanks who never take any damage
Total War: Troy
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Total war?
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>>576429321
Soulless AI slop looking garbage.
Give me classic WoC and classic marauders any day.
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speaking of Total War: why do people hate Troy's version of Helen so much?

I thought she looked better than the movie versions but maybe that's just me
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>>576469980
they are not true adult women connoisseurs
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>>576416883
>>576417968
No, it can't be. This is a trick. You're trying to fool me.
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>>576469980
Normies think that characters wearing context appropiate fits is "cringe".
Same reason why everyone in "historical" movies is wearing gray/brown leather clothing
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>>576469980
I don't think anybody really liked anything about Troy
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New rumour engine

WTF IS THIS?
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>>576473207
that's just thanquol, boris, nagash and whoever the nurgle lord is
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>>576469980
cuz normies are tasteless fucking faggots
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m2ex just got a new render test update, the new lighting seems much better now
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>>576473319
Glottkin
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>no korn units
nyoooo... wryuuuuuu
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Bretonnia rework soon?
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>>576474636
You got that in SFO bro... That's enough..
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>>576417731
Same. My disappointment is immeasurable.
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I finally searched the archives. This nigga be crazy
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>>576474960
kino
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>>576474669
>SFO
What's that?
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>>576475526
big overhaul mod look it up on steam workshop
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>>576475526
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>>576475773
*laugh track*
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>>576475773
I thought that dwarf on the left had a really really long beard but it merged with the mohawk
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>>576475830
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>>576472431
I liked it.
>>576469980
>black Helen in a golden dress
>better than Troys Helen
I hate normies so much it's unreal.
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I can't enjoy historical total wars any more there's literally no strategy and the battles are way less visually interesting than warhammer. The bing bing wahoos have cooked my brain
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>>576475773
whats so funny about this? armored slayers? so what
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>>576476141
Slayers aren't supposed to wear armour, like, at all.
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>>576476141
It's a 40k thing
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>>576476003
there is literally more strategy than in warhammer, because instead of whichever strongest units goes into a blob and presses a press you have hammer and anvil, elevation and flanking actually mattering and so on, what are u on?
I like warhammer but its got the least strategy of any TW game, it's all just the spectacle and larp of seeing ur dudes crash
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>>576476003
40k is shaping up to be even more strategically vacuous because they're doubling down on the spectacle which is fine because it's 40k, your last hope is Med 3.
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>>576476003
>literally no strategy
But enough about Warhammer
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>>576476253
oh and formations, which alone add way more depth to battles, and basically don't exist in warhammer sadly
for some mysterious reason
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>>576472431
I played Troy because I liked it! Hell I loved it! I'm just itching I'm I'm I'm itching to play it again. And you think what? you think you're gonna send me to a nuthouse? some doctor they're gonna get me to stop me from doing what I wanna do? Well that ain't happening! Not on my watch!
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>im getting attacked!!! what do I do!!
>oh just press the super mega orbital strike bro
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>im getting attacked!!! what do I do!!
>oh just press the super mega naval strike bro
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>>576476508
>5 minute cooldown
>limited uses per battle
>can't even destroy a stompa
I don't see the issue, also that's no different from Magic in WH3
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>>576476480
Agamemnon chill
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>>576476508
This kind of thing has existed since Shogun 2
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>>576476508
The difference in UI, damn. Consolification...
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>>576476480
>>576476609
i watched odyssey and it was kino nolan did it again so I kinda wanna play troy now, might buy it when my wolt paycheck comes in
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>>576476508
when they used this in the demonstration battles it kills maybe two or three units of chaff infantry or you focus it on a high tier SEM to almost kill it then it goes on cooldown for five minutes
and that was the strongest artillery strike
so they don't actually do much
unlike the fall of the samurai artillery that will wipe out significant portions of entire armies at a time but it's ok when historical games do it
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>>576476393
>>576476253
>>576476336
That's what I meant. Neither warhammer or historical have much strategy but at least warhammer has units that arent spearmaniii versus spearmaniii
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>>576476609
the fuck did Nolan do to Menelaus?
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>>576476802
but historical have way more stategy than warhammer, most WH battles are purely stat checks and single entity units shit on the balance completely nor can the AI properly use powerful single entity units like LLs

>>576476805
he's the punisher dude
his acting was great imo, i hate helen so i don't care if she's an ugly negress in the movie, frank castle roasts her hard one scene and its so funny, smth like "the face that launched a thousand ships, well maybe it can manage 500 now"
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>>576476805
*rubs head*
Eyy rigg
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>>576476918
>most WH battles are purely stat checks
Maybe you didn't actually play historical titles that much but you can actually stat check your way through most battles by using high tier units like dismounted knights or praetorians or cataphracts etc.
The entire new world part of medieval 2 is just stat checking dogshit aztec infantry with actually good european units while none of the AI nations figure out how to send anyone over.
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>>576476805
>>576469980
Is there an Odysseus version?
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>>576477326
i don't think you know what people are talking about when they complain about statchecks
when you're outmatched in med 2, ranged placement and hammer n anvil decides the battle
when you're outmatched in warhammer, you sned your 1 entity lord or even worse, hero, to tank 5 squads at once and blob em up while they deal chip dmg entity by entity and ur lord or mage spam spells into the blob, and in med2 if you play battles like you would in melee heavy factions in warhammer, you will lose a ton of units, and unlike WH replenishment isn't easy, specially not with elite units

one requires more strategy than the other and feels more like a war game
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>>576477597
That's not a complaint about statchecks, that's a complaint about single entities.
You do not know the meanings of the words you're using.
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>>576477365
don't think so, but he did make Batgamemnon
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Is it even possible to cause a chain rout in Warhammer? Especially these days where it seems every fucking unit can become immune to leadership debuffs in some way.
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>>576477692
more than half the warhammer factions are melee blob factions, the thing that decides the outcome of those battles is whichever side has better stats, and you don't care how many units you lose because you have instant replenishment and ur back to full strength within 2 turns at most, that's statcheck gameplay

even in ur med 2 example if u throw away ur elite melee inf by using em to hammer through their inf you won't be able to replenish them easily, so yeah there's more strategy involved
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>>576417151
>Thanquol soon-soon, friend-foes!
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>>576477692
>>576477798
btw no fucking shit if u bring super heavy inf against light inf the super heavy will win even if u don't do anything, that's not the point, point is in warhammer you can rely solely on statchecks to win, you can't do that in most older titles, especially ones with pre-rome 2 style global replenishment

my main complaint is warhammer is too fast paced and arcade-y, you should never be able to meet half ur long victory conditions within 50 turns, but that's how it is cause they catered to that playerbase
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>>576477798
>the thing that decides the outcome of those battles is whichever side has better stats
You have to be genuinely terrible at total war warhammer to think unit stats are the deciding factor in whether you win a battle or not.
>>576477952
>point is in warhammer you can rely solely on statchecks to win, you can't do that in most older titles
You absolutely can, parthian cataphracts in rome are disgustingly powerful and will effortlessly sweep anything besides scythed chariots.
>btw no fucking shit if u bring super heavy inf against light inf the super heavy will win even if u don't do anything, that's not the point
That's allowing you to win most battles through stat checks because the AI is horrible at recruiting decent armies just as much back then as it is now.
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>Play Bretonnia
Woo charging man on horsey smash through enemy and then goes through the enemy to do it again!
>Play Ogres
I either curbstomp the enemy in a single charge or half of my ogres are dead after every fight and I spend the next year replenishing

What the fuck am I doing wrong?
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>>576478184
>parthian cataphracts
you are comparing powering through battles with a doomstack of tier 5 expensive as fuck units to a stack of some shit like chaos warriors which a lot of factions get at turn 1, khorne gameplay is right clicking with melee blobs to win any battle u come across, that's nothing short of a statcheck that you win because chaos melee is OP, how disingenious can you get?
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>>576478184
>>576478336
also I know there's exceptions, and my favorite factions in warhammer happen to be ones like bretonnia/empire which need more stategy than most, but chaos factions which are like half the cast are just pure braindead statcheck gameplay

elves also have cheap easily accessible ranged doomstacks that you can right click ONCE and win almost any battle, I know that you can cheese the AI in literally any TW game, but the balance in warhammer in particular is completely retarded
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>>576478459
and nevermind if you happen to get a max lvl skarbrand or tamurkhan
just try losing a battle with that, try, you have to have ur hands chopped off to lose a battle with lvl 50 tamurkhan
best thing about 40k is moving away from OP single entity bullshit and bringing back honor guards so generals behave more in line with the armies' as they should
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>>576478336
>you are comparing powering through battles with a doomstack of tier 5 expensive as fuck units
You don't need a doomstack of them, like 6 parthian cataphracts will be able to rout most full stacks you ever encounter in an entire campaign with ease.
>khorne gameplay is right clicking with melee blobs to win any battle u come across
Some factions are easier than others.
>how disingenious can you get
Disingenuous is pointing to the easiest, most simple to play factions and saying the entire game plays like that.
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>>576478826
enough of the game does, and they are catering to hand crushed chaos shit more and more with every patch, end times will be nothing but chaos wank as you know

it all comes down to whether you enjoy using your army or using your heroes, and WH is hero centric you can't deny this, its why you can't lose in 5 hero stack armies, it's why tamurkhan is an unkillable rape machine because the AI on any difficulty has no idea that it has to focus him with gun lines or whatever, I don't wanna play MOBA-lites in total war, I want the army to do 90% of the work not the general and heroes
>just use mods or something
ye I do, just sayin this is a criticism of base WH
that guy saying warhammer has more strategy than hist titles was RETARDED
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>>576423070
Heart attack
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I love the High Elves but couldn't care less about the eldar
they always came off and whining crybabies, and guns that shoot ninja stars is a pretty retarded concept to begin with
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>>576477749
LL for this feel?
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>>576476614
Shogun 2 has orbital strike?
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>>576479756
better
https://youtu.be/R86CU7JCoIs
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>>576478965
>that guy saying warhammer has more strategy than hist titles was RETARDED
If you accept any nuance then it does depending on how you play the game.
All total war games are extremely simple if you only play in the most optimal way possible.
All strategic difficulty in any total war game comes from AI with infinite money cheats focusing the player unrealistically and just overwhelming the player through the number of fronts and nations attacking him at once, this was primarily the case in shogun 2 onward.
All of the tactical difficulty in total war comes from the aforementioned infinite money cheats the AI gets allowing it to bring multiple stacks per every one the player can field to every battle, but the AI has always been tactically incompetent, making these visually overwhelming tactical scenarios quite winnable.
Playing total war warhammer pits you against these strategic and tactical problems, but the AI will be able to do more against you in total war warhammer than conventional historical titles.
You don't need to plan around fighting flying units in historical titles, nor SEMs, nor dangerous heroes and lords, nor summons and magic. These are things unique to total war warhammer that present small points of potential tactical depth that can be present in total war warhammer's battles but not a historical title's battles. You're going to be facing all the potential threats of a historical battle on top of these at the same time. The AI can show up with level 50 skarbrand and 10 LL defeat traits and extremely good gear just as you can.
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>>576479654
Agamemnon?
he's a LL in Troy
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>>576476687
Don't forget to get Mythos DLC.
Also Memnon and Rhesus are a fun change from endless Greeks on Hittites violence.
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>>576479839
it's easier for the AI to deal with a stack with 6 cataphracts than it is for a lvl 50 unit that kills a squad within 30 seconds, takes no dmg, and even heals, and has magic on top of that
try facing a pike heavy stack with those catapgracts, yes it's extremely strong but it's nothing compared to warhammer, there's nuance in all things
>you don't NEED to use these things
yeah no shit, but they're there, and you're supposed to judge a game's balance by the tools you're given, singleplayer or not, players will be pulled to use the path of least resistance, so that argument is retarded, you may as well add cheats to the game, just add a "win battle" button, you don't HAVE to use it, y'know? just ignore it
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>>576479859
And Batagamemnon?
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>>576479571
Other way around for me, not a fan of any of the elves in Fantasy

But the Eldars and DEldars in 40k?
I COOM
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>>576479973
>it's easier for the AI to deal with a stack with 6 cataphracts than it is for a lvl 50 unit that kills a squad within 30 seconds, takes no dmg, and even heals, and has magic on top of that
The AI cannot deal with a good enough player at all in any game.
>try facing a pike heavy stack with those catapgracts
A trivial proposal because pikemen are slow in formation and the AI is horrible at target prioritization so rear charging them and instantly routing entire units for next to no losses is not difficult.
>yeah no shit, but they're there, and you're supposed to judge a game's balance by the tools you're given
And you are given the tools in every total war game to trivialize it strategically and tactically on the hardest difficulties.
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>>576479796
>Those physics
Kiiiinoooooo
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>>576479973
btw this is why I generally support unit caps in WH, or really almost any TW, because everybody stacking doomstacks leads to unsatisfying battles, but try explaining that to the avg WH player even itt, they just want a sandbox where they can do whatever they want with 0 restrictions, just put 20 tamurkhans in a stack for these niggas and they'll enjoy the ride
only one LL in an army? why are u artifically capping my fun bro??

we all know how the avg itt feels about unit caps, and how they're incapable of grasping why it can be a good thing, really these dudes need to play totally accurate battle sim tho
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>>576476685
The UI does look pretty soulless.
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>>576479796
So did CA just forget how to do particle effects and volumetric smoke like this?
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>>576480202
>And you are given the tools in every total war game to trivialize it strategically and tactically
some more than others
try doing those kinda strats early in attila when you're fucked from a billion hordes running around europe, yeah its doable, but its way harder and more annoying, not as effortless as playing chaos factions or smth in WH, actually attila makes it TOO hard, which I don't rly like, but its not like it can't be done in a TW game, compared to warhammer where u go VH/VH and if using a handheld faction just rape the map effortlessly within a few hours
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>>576480343
I think most devs just forgot how to do basic shit desu
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>>576480343
I think they could focus on details like that way more in shogun 2 due to the limited unit roster, the game has the most satisfying battle animations and aesthethics of any TW game for a reason, tradeoffs...
(pic rel is on my old PC though, I really should try shogun 2 now on 1440p with max settings)
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chaos slop
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>>576480343
Shogun 2 actually still runs horrendously with a lot of fires happening at once even on high end modern hardware.
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>just use heroes instead of infantry as front line
I never do this because I don't want my heroes to die, which is what always seemed to happen on the few occasions when I tried it.
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>>576480361
This argument highlights that complaining about some total war games being too easy is bullshit in the first place because every total war game is only ever hard because the AI cheats and focuses the player specifically.
The AI never uses units or resources intelligently, it just floods you with stacks and occasionally puts you into a bad spot like a room of monkeys on typewriters.
Total war difficulty is artificial difficulty and it always has been, some being easier or harder than others does not matter as long as the AI can only challenge you by cheating and ganging up on you.
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>>576479571
>>576480906
>>576480658
we get it youre gay
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>>576481031
cummies
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>>576479571
I am an Eldar sexoposting enjoyer, and some of the Eldar troops look kind of cool; especially the ones with the crested helmets and wings, but the High Elves overall just seem cooler.
I feel pretty much the same way about fantasy compared to 40K in general.
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>>576480924
the way you balance total war is economy, no shit, and the economy in attila is horrendous, which is what makes it so damn hard, the economy in most games is very easy, there's a balance u gotta strike, but this comes back to my complaint of WH being too fast paced, how the fuck do most campaigns start you off with tier 4 units in ur army? it's ridiculous, 0 sense of progression

i never said the difficulty wasn't "artificial", but still, there is more strategy in how you use your armies in hist than there is in fantasy, its simple as that, that was the whole point
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>>576449167
Whichever lore has the best passive for my current army composition.
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>>576480658
it depends on the hero and usually u 100% need some equipment on em
get good equipment and a few levels on em and they can replace inf as frontline, WHICH IS COMPLETELY RETARDED if you ask me... can't wait for less of this shit in 40k
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>>576481214
>the way you balance total war is economy, no shit
That's a generous way to say "how much the AI cheats and dogpiles you".
The strategy doesn't matter if the AI doesn't use strategy, it just cheats.
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>>576481390
>The strategy doesn't matter if the AI doesn't use strategy, it just cheats.
you use more stategy in some games than others to overcome the AI cheats, i never said u can't cheese any TW game to the point of triviality, u can, but they all require suspension of disbelief

for me warhammer requires the most suspension of disbelief by far, because of the ammount of easily accessible broken shit, like i can never have fun in a khorne campaign no matter how cool it looks for bloodletters n chaos trannies to slaughter all the enemies, cause I feel like I didn't even do anything in the battles

its hard to feel like that much in the older games, maybe with a full horse archer stack or something, doomstack of heavy horse archers is just retarded, but it is the final form of some factions ig
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>>576481031
Reddit is saying Coven Throne and Spirit Hosts
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>>576469980
>why do people hate Troy's version of Helen so much?
I liked her look, if that's what you're asking, what annoyed the fuck out of me was the trailer showing Helen being deeply in love with Paris and passionately trying to argue how she should stay in Troy.

Objectively, acting like Helen was the one who wanted to be there is just projecting Romeo and Juliet onto the war of Troy, and personally, I think the scenario where Helen was kidnapped because you just simply can't say not to a goddess is much, much more likely. What we know for sure is that Helen by the end years of the war fucking DESPISED Paris and wanted to go back, whether it was a change of opinion or what she had felt all along, portraying her like that initially always makes me think it's the modern shipper community invading an ancient mythos.
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>>576479895
yeah gonna go for all DLC I guess, gonna try playing Troy for a change though, they're much cooler than the Greeks imo
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>>576481625
The AI in medieval 2 and rome are completely incapable of fighting a player that can micro a few units of good heavy cavalry so if your faction has access to those you can win with minimal strategy and only the tactic of "just rear charge them". And almost every faction in medieval 2 has access to good heavy cavalry.
I do not care for complaints that amount to "this game isn't artificially difficult enough for me". Artificial difficulty is shit, every total war game has relied on it, every total war game allowed most factions to roll it anyway if you played optimally enough, it doesn't matter.
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>>576482071
AI cheats in 100% of strategy games, all difficulty in them is "artificial", get used to it, none of that means that WH gameplay isn't less braindead than med 2/rome 2 because it is, you have way more OP tools at your disposal to shit on the AI, even with a full heavy cav stack its possible to lose in medieval 2 when up against 2 strong stacks, with a lvl 50 tamurkhan with gear u can't lose in wh3
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Mashallah hamdulillah Bismallah my fellow brothers in faith and kuffars, I’m making a Muslim adaptation of the W40K universe. Please help me with this new slightly different universe

>Caliphate of Mankind
>Grand Halal Prophet Halal Wallahi of Mankind
>ever since he was betrayed by Shia Horus, he sits in the golden carpet
>20 Ghazi and their degen-seed
>Chaos is the holy trinity that mutates humans to being normal and civilised
>Sand Nig-keigher, stop raping our Aeldari people!
>Nids acquire the ability to self explode when they consume humans


Any more additions?
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>>576482378
>AI cheats in 100% of strategy games
I know for a fact starcraft 2 skirmish AI plays fairly on difficulties below what is explicitly cheater difficulties. Most RTS games for decades in fact don't give the AI anything beyond no fog of war, which is significantly less than infinite resources and doesn't even feel like playing against cheating AI in most situations.
>none of that means that WH gameplay isn't less braindead than med 2/rome 2 because it is
That depends on who you're playing and how you're playing.
>even with a full heavy cav stack its possible to lose in medieval 2 when up against 2 strong stacks
>with a lvl 50 tamurkhan with gear u can't lose in wh3
If you play properly it is not possible to lose either of these scenarios.
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>>576481390
But anon, cheating is a valid strategy, one that works quite well in real life.
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>>576483041
>If you play properly
so.... having to use strategy with the cav versus just right clicking their lord with tamurkhan? got it
non-cheating AI is prob doable with small scale like SC2, age of empires 2 AI also doens't resource cheat at all, but in TW campaign its impossible to have it not cheat and feel fair, unless, you want the AI to play like a MP faggot, corner camping, juking with units, at which point it doens't feel like a commander in the warhammer world, it feels like you're playing against some hyper zoomer tranny in sweden, this wouldn't be fun for anyone

balancing a game is extremely hard, singleplayer or not, but still, the point stands that hist games do not have "less stategy" than WH, especially not for the way most people will play
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WHERE THE FUCK IS EVERYONE???
PASSFAG??? HELLO???
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>>576484183
Total War has been regurgitating players since three's fucked up launch.
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>>576483869
>so.... having to use strategy with the cav versus just right clicking their lord with tamurkhan? got it
Both are trivial and are solely reliant on how much effort you want to put into microing a handful of units(in a game with pause).
>but in TW campaign its impossible to have it not cheat and feel fair, unless, you want the AI to play like a MP faggot, corner camping, juking with units, at which point it doens't feel like a commander in the warhammer world, it feels like you're playing against some hyper zoomer tranny in sweden, this wouldn't be fun for anyone
It's very possible, you just code AI that can manage resources and build armies competently and manage those armies on the field competently, vanilla starcraft 2 AI already does this. Hobbyist coders have made starcraft 2 AI that beats professional players through traditional gameplay and zero cheats at all.
>the point stands that hist games do not have "less stategy" than WH
And the point is almost every total war game only has as much strategy as you want to put into it because trivializing all of them with minimal strategy is possible. Because the AI doesn't use strategy, it cheats. It doesn't act intelligently so you don't actually need to strategize, you just wipe its stacks with simple tactics repeatedly.
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>>576484381
starcraft 2 AI plays in a very very annoying way that no TW player will enjoy playing against, units juking spells, orbwalking, cheesing you (in sc2 with medevac pickups and similar shit)

NOBODY would find that fun or satisfying to play against in a TW game, not even a little, in these games you're meant to feel like you're playing against a real commander in the setting, not some sweaty kid that learned strats from pros and youtube, I'm sure its possible to code TW AI that would behave like that, but everyone will hate it hence the need for it to overwhelm you with numbers (which is more satisfying to face anyways), like I said all TW games need suspension of disbelief and larp, but some more than others, and imo WH is firmly in the camp of tipeoing into MOBA territory
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>>576484891
>starcraft 2 AI plays in a very very annoying way that no TW player will enjoy playing against
It plays with the bare minimum level of skill required to present a challenge to a player without just thoughtlessly throwing infinite units at him.
>units juking spells
Total war warhammer AI already does this, poorly most of the time, and so do you.
>in these games you're meant to feel like you're playing against a real commander in the setting
If that were the case then you wouldn't be giving your units commands in real time that they obey instantly regardless of whether or not it's actually feasible for them to receive or obey commands from you. Total war is mashing formations of men into each other and that's all it's ever been.
>I'm sure its possible to code TW AI that would behave like that, but everyone will hate it hence the need for it to overwhelm you with numbers (which is more satisfying to face anyways)
You're complaining that the AI is too easy to beat but you yourself only ever want it to play like a retard that needs cheats to even begin to challenge you.
>and imo WH is firmly in the camp of tipeoing into MOBA territory
And you reveal yourself to be a clueless dumb cunt that doesn't understand anything he's saying by that statement alone.
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>>576485539
>and so do you
irrelevant, my whole point was nobody wants to play against an AI that plays with max efficiency, like a player, it makes it too game-y, starcraft 2 is game-y, total war is half larp, you're meant to feel like you're playing against a commander in the setting, not another player, ofc this doesn't mean the AI should keep throwing lords into ur anti lord units or charging cav into spears or any of the retarded things it does, but there's ways to improve it without making it annoying to play against, in a perfect world the AI wouldn't need to cheat, js there's ways to improve it while keeping it fun
>And you reveal yourself to be a clueless dumb cunt that doesn't understand anything he's saying by that statement alone.
yeah, famously leveling up and giving gears to lords n heroes which will carry the battles for you is far removed from MOBAs, right?
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Skaven weapon teams but Bretonnian.
A team of peasants carrying a relic into battle. Does short-range attacks like a warp-fire thrower, but with frostbite! and magical attacks.
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MORTALLLS! Where's the news?
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>>576487817
Stat him
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>>576486504
>it makes it too game-y, starcraft 2 is game-y
Total war is extremely gamey and always has been.
>yeah, famously leveling up and giving gears to lords n heroes which will carry the battles for you is far removed from MOBAs, right?
Yes, a game just having RPG mechanics doesn't make it anything like a MOBA and I don't think you even know what that term means.
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>>576488647
it's not quite as game-y as starcraft, most TW players love to larp a little and get immersed in the battles, if that's not you idk maybe you should try playing mp or something i dunno
I didn't say it was a MOBA either, but it has more MOBA elements than ever because you design armies around lords which then do the heavy lifting instead of the army, not the other way around, exact same way warcraft 3s campaigns worked, the precursor to actual full blown MOBAs, it's not hard to see the logic if you try thinking about it for 5min
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>>576487817
cool
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the armaggeon boxes are 450aud... ;-;
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There are rumours that the final Lord of the End Times will be a Skaven character.
Who do you think it could be?
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>>576489593
Sounds outrageous. stop taking everything you read at face value... People lie on the internet...
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next week news about thanquol for sure
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BLOOD KNIGHTS!!!!!!
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>>576488986
>you design armies around lords which then do the heavy lifting instead of the army
False, most factions can build armies that do more than the lords, multiple factions don't even get particularly strong lords at all, so your entire argument was baseless to begin with.
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There will be no more Warhammer 3 leaks after Lords of the End Times.
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>>576491265
>can
yeah u can play however if you want, if you want you can keep your lord at lvl 1, like I said I usually play WH with mods that make it more like old TW where the army is still the star and not the MOBA larp spell slinging heroes, that doesn't stop how a lot of factions get near max tier units in the earlygame which sucks too, but the most optimal way to play is still to build around lords, that's how most people will do it, that's what the game pushes towards and incentivizes, and over half the factions do get strong lords, even CA recognizes how annoying this shit is to much of the playerbase which is why single units are being downscaled in 40k and honor guard is coming back, so I don't see why you're so upset about it when that is in fact how WH is designed
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>>576487817
No elf/eldar romance this time around?
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>>576491714
>but the most optimal way to play is still to build around lords
Unless they can't, which you keep flip flopping between acknowledging is the case and pretending it is not.
>not the MOBA larp spell slinging heroes
Now this is an extreme rarity.
Isn't it ironic the first person to bring up disingenuousness is so disingenuous?
>the game isn't fun because I optimize the fun out of it(like I can do with every other game)
This is a personal problem, your arguments are invalid.
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>>576492724
no your arguments are invalid and you sound like a redditor faggot that keeps strawmanning
>every TW game can be cheesed so that means it's okay that the optimal playstyle in one is facemashing
you said it yourself that playing with an OP cav stack in med2 is somehow the same thing as having tamurkhan because uhhh they're both cheese.... even though one is way easier to pull off than the other one and you STILL need to think a little on how to approach the encounter, but since they're both abnormally strong vs the AI then 20 tamurkhans is the same as 20 cataphracts

the initial argument was that WH needs less strategy than history titles in most cases, which is true, and you began trying to disprove it by posting niche scenarios from med 2 a game u prob haven't played in like 10 years, you still haven't disproven that claim, just presenting outliers in poor attempts to undermine it, u didn't even mention how in your very own med 2 example the fact that you lost inf to the aztec stack will bite u in the ass because u can't easily replenish them, if it was WH it'd be no problem because of global replenishment, in med 2 however the next aztec stack will rape ur ass because you just lost 50% of your elite inf to win one battle, the reason u didn't even think about that is cause u haven't even played the game in ages, but still used it as an argument, be 4real now
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>>576490910
Night Lords!
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>>576493187
>the initial argument was that WH needs less strategy than history titles in most cases
The initial claim was that historical titles have more strategy than warhammer.
But going by your argument that the game's strategy is as simple as the simplest strategy required to win, there is next to no strategy required in any total war game, including the older titles.
The strategy required being "recruit heavy cavalry, win", the tactics required being "rear charge, win".
> u didn't even mention how in your very own med 2 example the fact that you lost inf to the aztec stack will bite u in the ass because u can't easily replenish them
Perhaps your memory really is completely dulled, you can build recruitment buildings for those units in the new world in that game, it is in fact not that hard to replenish them.
>in med 2 however the next aztec stack will rape ur ass because you just lost 50% of your elite inf to win one battle
There are like four settlements in the entire new world, that wasn't even my main stack, the aztecs were on the verge of death because it was going after their last couple settlements while their last actual army was about to die in a hopeless siege.
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So do we get the Vampire Counts units for free?
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>>576494335
I dunno but these 2 anons are cooming into each other's panties rn.
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i have to buy troy next time it goes into discount
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>>576494335
If it works the way other DLCs have in the past
There will be a total of 1 or 2 free units, and possibly one free lord and one free hero.
Everything else will be buy or die.
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>>576494315
since you wanna keep being totally wo nuance and this "well akshyually" style of argument, imagine this, you don't have a doomstack in med 2, its not lategame and you can't easily afford a billion units of the best heavy cav, or ferry them to your front from the places with the required recruitment buildings, but its midgame and comparatively you have a lvl 35 tamurkhan or some shit that can solo an entire army especially ones the AI is throwing at you midgame

it takes much less strategy and effort to win against multiple stacks in med2 in this scenario than it does in warhammer, in WH strategy barely stops mattering when u have that tamurkhan stack becuase he is himself a doomstack and one u get for free, all u have to do to win is send ur tamurkhan to assrape them, that means yes in a lot of scenarios warhammer does require less strategy than med2 or even other hist titles, wouldn't u say???
>bbut what about empire n brets or something that wouldn't have insta win lords at that point of the game
it would require more strategy than nurgle or other chaos niggers 4sure, but not as much as med2 or shogun or whatever in that part of the campaign, u have 0 nuance and just pick the niche example to try and disprove the premise, its wrong
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>>576494997
>it takes much less strategy and effort to win against multiple stacks in med2 in this scenario
much more*
but ye
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>tfw no battle pilgrim/sister of slaughter pairing
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>>576494997
You don't need a doomstack of cavalry in medieval 2, you need a handful of heavy cavalry units to win almost every battle you ever fight. Most factions get heavy cavalry through recruitment, all of them do through mercenary recruitment.
Literally every faction except tamurkhan's does not get access to tamurkhan. The overwhelming majority of scenarios you can create in warhammer will not give you tamurkhan.
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>40k fags start dripping into the thread
>debates become more civilized and structured
Maybe fantasy was the problem all along
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>>576496382
i am aware hammer n anvil can win u almost any fight in games like med2 specially where cav is very strong, but its not that simple, it's not as OP as using lords, even on non-tamurkhan factions, a lot of the time you lose a lot of cav in those charges, yes you'll win the battle but replacing em is a hassle
>just play it perfectly and you won't lose cav and be fine
YES BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO PLAY IT PERFECTLY, IN WH YOU CAN USE LORDS AND HEROES THAT HEAL OUT THE ASS AND BE JUST FINE, NO NEED TO EVEN REPLENISHMENT THEM

the point is COMPARATIVELY warhammer needs less strategy to do well, comparatively, it doens't mean og med2 is some hyper strategic hard game, but you still need more strategy to pull off a good win than u do in WH thus that guys comment about him "missing" strategy as if WH is some giga hard strategic game compared to games like med 2 is WRONG, that's the point, easy replenishment and global recruitment itself ensures you need to use less strategy in every battle, because u dont give a shit about losing more units, its all part of the "need less/more strategy" equation
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>>576484891
the ai never ever puts units into Liberator circles so you can make your own little tower defense game with libs and missile turrets against the enemy AI
t. Master league retard
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>>576448724
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>>576497519
thinking of playing through starcraft 1 (never played it) and then 2 these days
i hear 1 is way harder than 2 campaign wise, like acc difficulty, will see ig
recently played warcraft 1 and its not so bad, old RTS were like puzzle games, fail the lvl until u know whats coming then just use the knowledge to btfo the ai
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>>576448724
it denotes her appreciation of Blessed Bretonnian Chivalry
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>>576497637
starcraft 1 campaign is ok, there are like one or two spots a new player might get btfo'd but nothing super hard. starcraft BROOD WAR has some harder challenges but again nothing super impossible. no matter what esportstards tell you, starcraft 1 was designed for 11 year olds to beat in the 90s. so, you know, for me. the largest difference between 1 and 2 campaigns is 2 has a lot of levels where the gimmick to make infinity of the unit you just unlocked, but it's not necessarily a bad thing since the campaign in 2 is longer. sadly the story in 2 is retarded but the levels are fun.
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>>576497223
>the point is COMPARATIVELY warhammer needs less strategy to do well, comparatively, it doens't mean og med2 is some hyper strategic hard game
In regards to medieval 2 specifically, no, medieval 2 is one of the easiest total war games ever made just because of how tactically and strategically incompetent the AI is and how little the AI cheats. Most warhammer campaigns will be harder than most medieval 2 campaigns. It's not really much different for rome either. Warhammer is strategically and tactically more difficult than either of those games most of the time.
Shogun 2 is the only old title that requires significantly more skill than is required for the average warhammer campaign. Mostly due to a combination of the absolutely insane anti player bias, heavy AI cheats and how constrained the player is mechanically compared to pretty much every other title.
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>>576498292
rome 1/med 2 are some of the simpler n easier games, tho give m2ex a try, rn there's a "fair" difficulty setting that besides the AI improvements the mod itself makes, allows em to use mercenaries and it might change some other stuff too, but the AI has never been more competent than with that change, and m2ex AI is way better than savageAI or whatever its name was the AI in stainless steel, so there's a decent challenge

even wo all that tho, its still harder than playing nurgle/khorne, compared to empire or brets or other hard campaigns, probably not, empire is the warhammer faction that plays most like other TW just by virtue of not having insanely broken lords and units, and a lot of WH players hate em for it lmao, they expect handhold easy chaos mode and think the empire "weak" for not being braindead, pretty silly
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>>576497929
terran campaign in 2 was amazing back in the day, but I didn't rly like the zerg one, moba segments with kerrigan, it felt weird, haven't played protoss tho
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>>576498993
terran campaign is fantastic right up until the last little bit. zerg story sux ass, and lotv story shits on anyone who cared about the world. fun levels tho.
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>>576477365
we can't forgive CA for nerfing her chest like they did
it was downright diabolical
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>>576469980
Still would.
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>>576492346
There will be in the form of a cringy "3 pannel comic"
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>>576498993
Same here. Played Terran then got bored of Zerg and never played Protos.
>>576499519
Yikes
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>>576448724
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>>576501482
i kind of want to play pharaoh just to see how the trojans/greeks do vs all the new civs. but also, i dont want to play pharaoh
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>>576494335
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>>576502345
I was thinking the same thing, but then I decided that I'd rather reinstall Troy.
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>>576502345
why not? pharaoh dynasties is unironically one of the best TW games held back by its boring ass setting
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>>576502973
After Tamurkhan and Elspeth she's the only LL I care about. Being FLC means I don't need even need to spend money to get her.
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>>576501640
Why would a woman want to have sex with someone shorter than them?
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>>576503312
NTA, but some short kings score
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say if the old world mod adds ulthan how big would it be?
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>>576416883
Fix a faction.
>Daemons of Chaos (Daniel)
His glory to the Gods should be a currency that can be spent on things other than items for Daniel himself. You could either give him a scrap like system for his demon units, add instant built settlement buildings for demonic glory, or instant recruit units for glory form a limited pool. Give him a real goddamn tech tree, you could probably just make his skill tree the tech tree with some tweaks. Rework his skills. Add at the end of each god dedication path the chance to do a quest battle with the major LLs of each God (Kugath for Nurgle, Kairos for Tzeentch, etc.) after the battle you get to recruit them as part of your armies and their faction is either destroyed or confederated, for undivided you get Belakor, lets you play Pokemon like Archaon. And a “chaos challenge” system where when Daniel gets big and bad enough, chaos LLs get mad and think you’re trying to claim something that isn’t yours and will either ramp up hostility and send invasion forces, or you can do battles with them. Maybe even a Wulfrik like mechanic to teleport to the specific lords locations to beat them up and claim rewards for doing so. Most everything else he has can stay.
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>>576497613
Hoeth tattoo?
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>>576503312
keep i hearing tall women just settle because either men dont go after tall women? or because they cant ever find someone taller
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>>576503161
>pharaoh dynasties is unironically one of the best TW games held back by its boring ass setting
That's the exact reason, the setting and time period is everything for these games. There's a reason Empire is still so popular.
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>>576504853
real ancient egypt is still pretty cool tho, worth a play
just has low replayability is all
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>>576503526
>>576504534
Tall women have to just give up because their viable dating pool is absurdly small
Not that big a deal because all women have to settle for the guys who will actually commit to them eventually
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our age of bronze is ending...
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>>576503526
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>>576504978
my wife...
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>>576505629
rare for CA to not uglyfy a female char
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>>576505316
Gross
Orion/Ariel and Vlad/Isabella are not for ntr
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>>576505764
I assume because it was made by Slavs
we all know how what CA Horsham's female character designs are like
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>>576506064
this is a 10 in bongland
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>>576506064
We wuz inquisitors
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>>576505986
Being Ariel husband = humiliation ritual.
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>>576507960
helf sisters...
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>>576505986
>Vlad/Isabella
Bruh, every second sentence that ever comes out of Isabella's mouth is a swinging innuendo, and in ET she just gets fully fat ugly bastarded.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqlNY5iX-nA
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>>576505251
Call an ambulance.
But not for me.
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>>576475773
>For my armored slayer oath!
goosebumps every time
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>>576511349
cute :)
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August, and still no info about the end times DLC
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>what do i own you khorne?
>nothing they are for free
>FREE?
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What do Lizards send at Chosen Halberds?
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>>576514068
not monster units
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holy shit guys! i clicked the thing by accident
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>>576514068
You can blast armored halbers with ancient sallyes or razordons
Or use a plague of rust caster + normal salamanders/shooting skinks
Or nuke them with chain lightning/thunderbolt
Or bomb them with teradons
They're annoying but it's not that bad
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>>576505986
>>576507960
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>>576505251
>bro! stop talking about civilization, man. all I want to do is catch some waves!
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Ambush this dick
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>Kostaltyn
What's he like? I rarely see anyone talking about him or his campaign.
(Aside from the 'I look like this' posts)
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>>576517606
i'm normally a ratfag, but i love rat mass murder
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>>576508095
Helves don't care about Ariel and her forest dwellers hobbo.
And even though Alarielle is a massive slut too, she doesn't sleep with non-elves.
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>>576519169
>she doesn't sleep with non-elves
kek
yeah bro dw about it
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luthor harkon will shoot your whore
it is just that simple
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Luthor Harkon is a slave to Nagash.
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>>576519998
Brinewife LH when?
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alarielle is a slave to BHC
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the whore in question
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>>576525204
Besus Hitler Christ?
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>>576472431
I loved it. It was the first Total War since Attila where I finished a campaign. Currently replaying it as Diomedes on Mythos.
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Alarielle hates humans
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>>576525204
Big Hig-elves Cock.
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>>576525663
>on Mythos
best way to experience it, should have been a part of the base game
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My man's about to get himself some snussy. Look, she's even forcefeeding him aphrodisiac.
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>>576526774
i hate gamer girl make up
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>>576527056
>gamer girl make up
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>>576528879
you heard me correctly, you green cunt
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>>576527056
and I love this type of make-up, clearly Helen inspired
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>>576526864
Fun fact: Dechala has a base melee attack of 69.
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>>576530891
69 is old news, unc. The cool kids are using 67 now.
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>>576530891
i checked, it's true. the others have 6/70
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why does malaki sound like he was made in reddit?
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>>576532769
it's a dwarf
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>>576526401
Even Bretonnians?
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Your reaction when Malekith gets a rework before Bretonnia?
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>>576533362
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>>576526864
>the cum potion
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>>576534016
>the vile fluids of her fornication
Imagine the smell.
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just smash the keyboard to get a khorne demon name
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>>576537354
that's a chorf
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i call my khorne characters Jim
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>Play Dechala.
>Vassalize a faction.
>Get declared war on right that next turn.
>Vassal doesn't join my side and instead breaks vassalage.

What's the fucking point then?!
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>>576538407
you got to vassalize them ever harder
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Astragoth or Drazhoath?
Archaon or Be'lakor?
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>>576545861
drazhoath
belkaor at least until the archaon rework
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>>576519821
>Dwarf propaganda
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>>576545861
researchmaxxing as Archaon and making a doomstack of nigh-unkillable Aspiring Champions is the most fun I have in the game
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I meant to ask.
Is Drazhoath supposed to be the leader of ALL the Infernal Guard, or just one particular legion that being the Legion of Azgorh while the Infernal Guard is a generic military unit that gets formed and trained everywhere?
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>>576545861
>lust provoking image
>time-wasting question
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>>576549056
It's not really much time wasting to just go "A or B".
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>>576547141
what are their endgame stats like? i've never tried it
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>>576549319
yjk
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>>576549854
It's a female unicorn.
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>>576549928
still has a horn
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FAYS FAT FUTA COCK
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>>576549828
even before you start upgrading them they're already decent elite infantry, then on top of that they get
>perfect vigor
>poison weapons
>regen
>frenzy and hellblade
>strider
>a ward save buff that stacks when enemy models die nearby
>overshields
>a bound spell that lets each individual unit summon a unit of blue horrors
through research
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>>576551035
zamn
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I've been playing Arbaal
I've been Arbaaling
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>>576552224
undefeated status?
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>>576552224
Based.
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>>576552224
I'm more about Skulltaker, but still based.
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>>576552224
>>576552507
>>576552614
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Just dropped a massive Karl Franz and clogged up the toilet
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>>576552224
he yells too loud
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>>576553515
That's not loud. THIS is loud
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Angron & the World Eaters when?
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africa was completely irrelevant during the medieval period but you can't really tell the entire story of what was going on from the 10th to the 12th century without including mali, they had one of the largest military forces in the world during that period
they should be included as some sort of npc faction in medieval 3
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>>576553979
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>>576553979
>>576554205
Why are they so COOL?
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>>576554205
_____________Rah!_____________
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>>576554428
RAH RAH RAH RAH RAH
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>>576554738
AAAAAUUUUUURRRHHHH
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>>576554148
I disagree that the Mali should be included, but maybe instead you have off-map faction mechanics for Mali, India, and China.
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>mogs the retarded slaneesh LL in his own trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfY0glCmfnQ
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wh40k beta when
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>>576553484
Nice, bro.
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>>576547489
The Infernal Guard are the Chaos Dwarf versions of Slayers, and the Black Fortress is their version of Karak Kadrin. They are only "trained" in the Black Fortres where they cut off their horns and trap their face inside their helmets until they redeem themselves from their shame by dying, or become Castellans (rare since they are hero units). Drazoath controls the majority of them, though some will travel to other areas like slayers.
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>>576556676
Ok so essentially, Drazhoath is the leader of the Infernal Guard, even if a few of them go serve under other generals.
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>>576556676
how are they promoted to castellans? kill a bunch of people?
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>>576558074
I think the process is
>Get dishonored > Go to the Infernal Guard.
>Put on a helmet that hides your identity so your crime is erased.
>Serve until you do something awesome enough on the battlefield that it's decided whatever you did has been repaid.
>Option 1: Take off helmet, go back to normal Chorf life.
>Option 2: Take off helmet, want to keep serving so you become a Castellan.
>Option 3: Feel you're still dishonored and you can't go back to normal life after all this, your helmet gets reheated to stay welded to your head for the rest of your life and you become an Ironsworn.
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>>576558902
>can be allowed to return to normal life
wow, that's surprisingly progressive for the chorfs
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>>576416883
>30 hours later
>still no link to new Geabull account
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Is it strange that I feel Bretonnia should focus more on the France side and less Arthurian, and this includes french associated historical figures like Charlemagne and his paladins?
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>>576564336
Bretonnia is unfortunately an NPC faction and if GW or CA gave it a storyline then it'd interfere with the Empire's story.
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>>576564336
Yes it is.
Bretonnia should have Artoria and Mordred and they better have Fate skins.
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>>576533184
>humans
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>>576554428
>>576554738
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>>576564735
I want to fuck the king and her son at the same time. I want Arturia to use me to teach her son how to please a man. I want my dick between the king’s breasts as she and her son practice performing oral on me. I want the king to kiss feed her son semen and teach her to swallow. I want the king to ride my dick like a horse and I want her son’s vagina on my mouth. I want to cum inside the king as I eat out the king’s son. I want the king to part her son's legs and show me her vagina. I want Mordred to scream for her daddy as I pound her. I want to fill her with just as much cum as I filled her father. I want enjoy Arthurian-style oyakodon.
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>>576564735
God I wish women were real
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>>576565230
Jesus christ anon.. you would have been fun in /ftt/.. I go by Mordred there too.
>>576565432
God I wish I was in an anime.
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>>576565230
>>576564735
>Merlin gave king arthur a temporary dick to fuck gwynevere but the semen was stolen by morgan
fate "lore"
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When legend was around he wouldn't have tolerated this weeb talk I'll tell you that
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He will come back for 40k..
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>>576565230
>all females
fucking gross
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>>576565671
Yes anon, we have heard that story a trillion times already. Same with Mordred being an 8y old homunculus that was grown in a lab with magic.

Warhammer lore is worse tho. I mean fate is at least funny the first time you hear it.
Fucking lizards go to space in flying pyramids. Shit sucks 10 dicks.
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>>576566086
>Fucking lizards go to space in flying pyramids.
Holy kino
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>>576565671
While not the most FAITHFUL adaptation, I honestly think that Fate's adaptation of Arthurian legend is damned interesting. Having a girl draw the sword from the stone and be crowned king, not queen, recontextualized a lot of the famous elements from the myth.

Said queen marrying Guenivere for political reasons as a quick and dirty solution to unify the kingdom and prevent a war is interesting, making it a loveless marriage that plays perfectly into Lancelot waltzing in later on and having an affair with the queen.

The creation of Mordred as a kind of magical homonculus/clone to ensure the royal line continue that backfires because Morgana is a bitch is solid, and the whole 'it must be an incest baby' story becoming popular among the commoners because they don't know whats really going on and all they know is that the King is being SUPER weird about all of this and that's the explanation that people think makes the most sense.

There are a few things I would do differently, but on a conceptual level there is some really good material there for playing with the story of king arthur in an interesting way.
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>>576566280
No anon, not fucking kino.
That's what a 6y old boy draws with crayons. It's trash.
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>Fate
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I liked Domain Expansions more when they were called Territories. I want to rape Reinhard.
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How would Gojo fare in WH3?
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>>576566086
Warhammer is a war game meant to sell toys
Fate has nothing but it's dogshit story
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>>576567274
Fate characters aren't that strong. They'd all job to something as simple as kakashi.
The best they have is Gilgamesh and besides his planet destroying sword of rupture, he just throws swords at people.
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>>576567873
Fate has video games, a lot of them and some are 10 times better than anything warhammer has, besides wh3. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1902690/FateSamurai_Remnant/
Fate has anime, movies, manga, toys, board games, events.. it's a huge thing. Warhammer is nothing compared to fate.
>>576567856
He'd probably sit around and do nothing but he could annihilate every race there is. Would just take forever unless he finds a way to expand his domain across an entire planet with some chaos magic bullshit. Only the tyranids would survive that.
Easiest is probably the imperium tho. Just go rape the emperor and then it all falls apart and dies.

I do wonder if his simple existence would make pheonix guards and kairos just fall over dead..
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>>576564735
>>576565230
>>576565639
Made for gobbo.
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>>576570159
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>>576554205
>>576554428
>>576555430
I fucking loved this nigga so much. Wish the Valkia trailer wasn’t so scuffed, the Slaanesh Chaos Lord could’ve had a similar hype moment.
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>>576571047
Goblins in non warhammer media are pure sex. Their females are pure sex and their males make for good ntr villains fucking human women. In warhammer they suck. I don't think there are even any female gobbos.
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>>576561229
>New Geabull account
He’s alive? I thought for sure the gook coom police had put him in the gas chamber by now. This is wonderful news.
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>Star Wars Total War
>Could've done Eras like 3K
>Would've been utterly kino
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>>576571275
40k beats star wars for total war in my opinion. Actually it beats star wars in pretty much everything that is not the main movies (recent ones don't count forget they exist)
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>>576571193
The females part.. alright... the males? Sir.. please...
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>>576487817
Based
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going to gamescom to see for myself how bad TW:40k is going to be
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>>576571547
Blame the japanese they made like 200 NTR games where the heroin is gobbo'd.
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>>576572207
>heroin
And of course my e key fails at the worst possible time lmao
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>>576572041
Urgh..
I go to the biggest weeb cons yearly in full cosplay and even I would never step foot into gamescon. Holy nasty...
>>576572207
As a great enjoyer of "peeping dorm manager" and "NTR office", I am very interested to hear about those fabulous video games you speak of, sir anon.
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>The tweet of the JP hentai dev saying how bi bi shi ntr games has ruined the market
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I fucking hate 40k...
If TW40k does this shit,.. if it even runs on my old 1080... the first thing I'm doing is putting the voice volume to 0 and never reading a thing.
This "ebonics but latin" shit is pissing me off so much. I often have to google words or ask gemini to translate this gibberish when I have to make dialogue choices. Nigger I'm a self taught ESL, I don't speak fucking latin.
..and it sounds so gay too..
They are all speaking like they just took the fattest whiff of their own farts before every sentence.
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>>576572906
lol
lmao

keep at it king
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>>576573003
Esteemed Saar Anon, I beseech thee to not deride my..
>*SNIFFS OWN FART*
Ahhh..
..deride my noble manners of speech.
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>>576572331
Yes, im sacrificing myself so that you guys don't have to waste your time with 40k
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>>576572906
>if TW40k does this thing that every 40k game ever does
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>>576573607
Stop acting like I'm a retard u fuck.
WH3 has no dialogue whatsoever besides 1 sentence diplomacy shit. If 40k also only has 1 liners, everything will be fine.
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>>576572906
>>576573198
So you're throwing a tantrum and won't shut up about farts because your English sucks and you have to look up words in a dictionary?
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>>576573353
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>>576573690
I'm not acting like you're a retard, I know you're a retard.
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>>576572906
then learn english, nigga. english is extremely intuitive because you can learn everything from context, compared to whatever baboon language you speak
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>>576573913
>>576573719
I'm not gonna learn anything. English is a dumb language. I will however keep shitting on 40k because it's easy and does a lot of mental damage.
>>576573781
I only have autism.
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So they renamed druchii to drukhari.. bravo GW
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>>576574014
then dont play, retard, have the self respect to stop torturing yourself
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>>576574321
Why? I'm having a great time playing. I'm skilling up my psycher warrior rn.
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>>576574087
Druchii is fantasy and drukhari 40k
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that's a lot of hidden posts
glad 4chanX can automatically hide passfaggotry, can't imagine what it'd be like trying to read this thread where half the posts are the same autistic tranny seething about 40k
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>>576572906
>cogitator
Is it the word that's giving you trouble?
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>>576577746
abode surmise piety
Those nonsense words.
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>>576416883
Swordmasters of HOE
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>>576577912
That's not faux latin that's just english.
Your condition is terminal.
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I can't wait for an update so we can move on from this jeet passfag.
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>>576579138
and u are dumb, bleh
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>>576572906
>Ebonics but latin
>Not a single latin word in the entire image
It seems you're not only autistic and spanish, but retarded as well!
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>>576571275
Disney drove the SW brand into the ground. Zoomers also don’t worship it like Gen X and Millennials did.
Also Disney/Lucasfilm are execs are genuinely stupid and might not understand what total war is.
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>>576579297
I'm spanish?
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>>576579297
protocol is latin tho
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>>576579297
>spanish
He's a mountain Jew
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>>576579342
its literally just kathleen kennedy, shes the one that kept push for this garbage, instead of something interesting, we couldve gotten some pro separatist rebel during the interim years between episode 3 and 4, instead of doing interim shit between 6 and 7 or space lesbians
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>>576574087
Fantasy used to have those cool names for different races, names they called themselves. Asur for High Elves, Druchii for Dark Elves, Asrai for Wood Elves, Dawi for Dwarfs, Dawi Zharr for Chaos Dwarfs. In 40k there were only Eldar and Dark Eldar, also Craftworld Eldar, Corsairs, etc. The problem was they weren't very copyright-able. So they started introducing those names, Aeldari for Eldar, Drukhari for Dark Eldar, Asuryani for Craftworld Eldar, Anhrathe for Corsairs.
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>>576579393
"Protocol" is not a latin word, it is an english word derived from a latin word derived from a greek word.
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>>576579963
Is "Eldar" an actual word or something? I thought warhammer made that up. So they should be able to copyright it.
>>576580142
>hurr durr I'm smort
Bleh
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>>576580515
>Is "Eldar" an actual word or something?
Oh my fuck you are dumb
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>>576580564
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>>576503039
If it was mythos total war it would done fucking spectacular. A reason why I am working on a mod to change the period is I just think chariots don't work in total war beyond a very light presence (Warhammer and I liked Kislev's sleds). Mythos and being freed up with what they do would have let them have lots of fun shit. Hell, they didn't even do the chariots right visually - they're far too long and boxy with those ratchet ass ones Egypt gets for the early and mid tiers being ridiculous, full on unga bunga.
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>>576567856
WATCH OUT IT'S AN INCOMING FIRE EXTINGUISHER!
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Total War: Lordran when?
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it's already starting.
>totally not a reskin guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rQ1FLPiwAA
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>console RTS
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>>576581365
grifters gon grift
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>>576566440
I admit, I could be sexist, but I find it undermines a lot of the myths because it adds a whole new layer of suspension of disbelief in regards to how characters act.
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>>576582165
Other characters in the story are so prettyboy that they're borderline girls. Hiding a girl among a bunch of long haired pretty boys is easy.
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>>576566086
Warhammer (Fantasy) lore is shoddy and yet it's still a step above a lot of other fantasy lore until you go into obscurias.

>>576554148
I'm still not sure why the fuck they didn't include the steppe (It doesn't strike me as just allergy to Russia since that means no Grand Prince of Kiev and easy to play to some Ukrainian enthusiasm there) or Iran/Central Asia for Khwarezm. I'd still like to see an extension southwards too for Mali, Makuria and Ethiopia and Yemen. Years ago I remember reading that during big-gold-nigga Munsa's time he was dealing with poison horse archers in the sahel and that sounded neat.
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>>576582743
Cuz nobody cares for those places. 90% of people will play England, France, HRE or the Byzantines.
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People make too big of a deal about historical genders versus what fantasy stories can do.

>>576583525
90% of players get bored when they have no more enemies to kill with their favorite faction.
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>>576582743
>big-gold-nigga Munsa
that was a hoax
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>>576554148
>10th to 12th centuries... without including Mali
That was Ghana's time, Sundjiata would be a late game, 13th century uprising
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Nobody cares about brown people throwing spears at each other. This is why Pharaoh flopped.
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>>576580515
>Is "Eldar" an actual word or something? I thought warhammer made that up. So they should be able to copyright it.
They stole it from Tolkien.
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>>576584963
it might be interest if they bothered to include them enslaving each other and selling them off to arabs and the spanish
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>>576584963
>Best TW gameplay by miles
>nobody liked it because the setting SUCKED
funny innit
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>>576585010
Is there anything besides the skaven that GW made themselves? Seems everything is just copied.
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>>576585413
Total war's gameplay, on the strategic and tactical level, just isn't very good. It really is just the setting that carries a total war game.
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>>576586115
Is there really a strategy game with better strategy and tactics tho?
I play a lot of stellaris and that game is just missile maxing in combat. The planet building is just a time waster.
I played lots of CnC, CoH and Warcraft 3 and there it's just "bunker up and make a giga force while the AI brainlessly sends waves".
Of all of these, I think WH3 is the hardest. Here the AI does the most random things and can totally fuck u in the ass and cost you tons of turns. In the others.. it's whatever. I could load up a devouring swarm campaign rn and brain afk through the thing piss drunk.
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>>576586717
There's no other game that does exactly what Total War does, which is arguably the only reason it's still going. There are games with infinitely better and more detailed tactical gameplay like Gates of Hell: Ostfront, or games with much better map-based gameplay like Paradox games I think, never played any of them admittedly, but there are none that combine the two aside from TW.
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>>576586115
This is the main reason I think Total War's multiplayer scene never took off. Without the context a campaign provides, the battles just aren't very engaging once the initial spectacle has waned.
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>>576585895
Green orcs. They actually invented them being green. I mean, one guy at GW painted them green, people thought it look cool and it caught on in most of fantasy media.
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>>576586983
>map based gameplay
>paradox
I dunno man..
Stellaris is just
>set const and science ships to auto
They just do their own shit, all we do is put down starbases in the early game and mega structs in the late. Maybe build a starbase in a chokepoint.. The planets are all in the right hand UI, we don't need the map to operate those.
I think total war has way more complex map gameplay with army placement and stances. I've never had a situation in Stellaris where I thought I fucked up by doing something on the map. In total war I absolutely ran into ambushes in force march or didn't scout ahead and that cost me dearly.

I also played Age of Wonders 4 and that entire map gameplay is a literal copy of Stellaris from about 10 years ago. That's how Stellaris used to work back then.

>>576587156
I mean.. I guess it's original of them to make em a fungus and green but it's still orcs. I was more thinking.. truly new. I have never seen a game with human sized rats that wield high tech weapons and eat each other.
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>>576587067
With the game coming to console and having more narrative campaigns... I wonder if Multiplayer will be a focus for CA...

They gave up with Vortex/RoC, they'll just probably give up and just focus on whatever the IE-equiv is desu
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>>576587326
They weren't fungus (fungi?) back then. They even had a female cheerleader in Bloodbowl. They first turned them into fungi in Gorkamorka, then it carried to regular 40k with the 3rd edition and after a while it got copied to Fantasy.
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>>576587326
The only good Paradox game is CK3 because of the super epic GoT mod
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>>576452432
>slaaneshi cunt cosplaying khorne follower
this bitch will get ripped to shreds and that will be that. khorne don't fuck around with this gooner shit
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lmao, these fucks. i ain't even mad
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>CA is doing a Pharaoh stream today
wut
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>>576589730
Odyssey hype
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>>576589730
HECTORRRRRR
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>>576589879
Sorry but the zeitgeist has moved on to spiderman already
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holy shit this is almost as bad as warhammer TW
i guess with voidfearer edition you'd get everything except the necron DLC
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>>576584510
>get bored
Tell that to the people playing their 100th empire campaign since 2017.
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>>576590962
Nah, just get the 2 season bundles on sale for like 14$ each and that's all. The cosmetic shit doesn't matter
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>>576591202
voidfearer can be foudn cheap on key sites
checked the steam page its confusing but it should contain everything except the new necron DLC, and then for that onwards you'd need season pass 2 to get em
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>>576591071
This.... But korn
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>>576591263
Yeah, there's that too
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>>576591909
do you even need the necron dlc, its just an extra side area + quests for that area right? basically?
i'm not familiar with crpgs.... i'll pray on normal and hope i don't get softlocked
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>>576591975
RT DLCs are integrated and spread across the main game, it adds another colony and expands Necron plot with Trazyn's vault and Trazyn pops in across some of the base game quest to comment after you meet him. It's good since it expands late game which feels a bit weaker than early/mid game.
My recommendation would be get voidfarer now and play with season 1. Then after 4th DLC is released buy Season 2 for your second playthrough.
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>>576592183
DLC4 might come out in Sept, they're hefty games so maybe the other anon should wait until all 4 is out
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>>576591975
>>576592712
Yeah that's an option too, they didn't say if they will delay it, so Sep-Oct is probable.
They might reveal it at Gamescon
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Odysseus is so cool bros...
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>>576593083
I also rly wanna play troy after being the odyssey but too broke rn I'll wait for another big sale or smth
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>>576593185
too broke for this FUCK
deciding between rogue trader which is like 16-17 euros n this
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>>576582165
Shut the fuck up faggot.
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>>576581194
Elden Ring would be more appropriate
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>>576591071
The biggest complaint empire players have is they keep nerfing/removing threats to the Empire.
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>>576593083
Calypso pls go
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>>576594761
she was a rapist if you think about it
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>>576593185
So was the movie good? I've been holding off from buying tickets because I'm not sure if the fantasy-like look for an Odyssey movie was for me, but I'll give it a try if it's a good time.
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>>576595070
It's good, but EPIC honestly does it better.

But if you hate musicals and/or hate Nolan style shit, then your best bet is the 1979 film, the Warriors.

>>576593362
Rogue Trader you have a few months on, there's one more big DLC planned before the end of the year, which means the 'definitive edition' will be out shortly after which usually includes a lot of bug fixes and generally good updates.
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>>576595543
>But if you hate musicals
Wait it's a musical?!
Man, I have NOT been keeping up with this at all.
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>>576564336
No.
imo Bretonnia should be more Arthurian than French. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't have French influence, of course. That's obviously going to be a major source of inspiration for them.
Pushing them towards something more fantastical rather than historical helps to give them more character, so they feel less like simply being a lower-tech version of the Empire.
tbhwy I still kind of wish that huntsmen-generals, flagellants, and luminarks were Bretonnian units. Let the Empire have the guns, cannons etc instead.
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>>576595607
EPIC is a musical, Nolan is not.
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>>576595658
>>576564336
Arthurian legend is french.
Most of the stories take place in France, and during the French ownership of England.
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>>576595543
>there's one more big DLC planned before the end of the year, which means the 'definitive edition' will be out shortly after which usually includes a lot of bug fixes and generally good updates.
yeah but I kinda wanted to play it now.... definitive ed would be like idk the start of 2027 right
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>>576595721
Oh, by EPIC I thought you were saying that the Odyssey was epic.
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>>576596105
Last DLC is scheduled for next month.
So definitive would presumably be around Christmas this year or start of next year, yeah.

If you do want to play right now, then I highly recommend it, I've got 671 hours in it and I haven't done a new playthrough for the third DLC yet.
I also don't have an iconoclast playthrough yet, but maybe eventually I'll be enough of a cuck to do one.
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>>576596312
It is likely they delay it
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LEveling is such a chroe in rogue trader.
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reminds me of those female general coomer mods for rome 2
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How much will the dlc cost? Will you buy it even if it's 40 euros/dollars?
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>>576586717
NTA but I've played tons of strategy games and so far the hardest for me is modded Master Of Orion: Conquer The Stars. On impossible difficulty in a big map vs all other AI, if you make even one little mistake it could cost you your entire campaign.

Basically you have to play vs mod authors on old games who regularly update because game devs aren't in the business of making games hard because that's bad for the bottom line.
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anyone watching that shit? i never played troy, how good/bad is he?
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>>576599393
looks like a 15-20$ pack as usual
no I'm not paying 40$ for overpowered chaos-slop
20 maybe
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>>576599393
>40 euros/
I won 2 10EUR Gamesplanet vouchers so yeah.
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>>576599531
I have a feeling it ill be mores expnsive then regular dlc's
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>>576598895
chuds don't want to turn evil overlords into women, coomers do
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>Sign up for the Beta when it's announced.
>A week ago get a CA email, get excited.
>It's a stupid fucking servery. Nothing to do with the Beta.
>Fill it out and get on with it.
>Got another email today.
>It's the same fucking survey.
Someone at CA is fucking with me specifically.
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>>576599745
lots of chuds are coomers
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>>576599745
What if I am a chud and a coomer, huh?! What then?
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>>576599745
Depends, there are a gorillion different types of chud. You have some that are anti-coomer, some that are coomers
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>>576599928
>>576600138
>>576600278
You guys don't get anon. There's nothing a chud can conceive any less than other chuds with different opinions.
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>>576600138
why is the chudperial guard like this?
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>>576599928
Greekette is the cutest
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>>576600570
craftworld gya'ru is into some sick shit
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Shogun 3 when?
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>>576601052
2032
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>>576601135
>TFW you will be in your 50s when shogun 3 comes out.
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>>576601797
Who gives afuck how old are you...I just want to have fun until I die.
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>>576595883
>Arthurian legend is french.
No. It started out in Britain.
France obviously had a big role in shaping the legend though.
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>Shogun
Not allowed by CCP and Chinese market.
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why are 90% of these pics from russian sites
russians love their brown eldar sluts ig
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>algorithm starts serving me troy the movie shorts
>gets the urge to play A Total War™ Saga™: Troy
I'm so suggestible, I am not immune to propaganda...
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>>576607760
the movie was a rly fun watch in the cinema, i loved the cyclops n the scene with the big dudes
I also have such an urge to play troy rn but im too broke to even pay the 35$ gamesplanet sale price for the game + all dlc
gonna play it next month
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>>576607208
They mog us in Warhammer love by a mile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnSwqT7UErM
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>>576610107
yet they don't contribute to the property by buying official products so they may as well not exist from a health of the franchise POV...
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>>576610296
Proofs?
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I don't get it. Pharaoh does not look like a bad game, why all the hate?
>waaah waah it does nothing to advance total war as a franchise
Do you want coca cola to advance as a soda?
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>>576611606
>waaah waah it does nothing to advance total war as a franchise
nobody said this
it's just a boring setting
nobody really gives a shit about the bronze age beyond some odyssey larping so once u do 1-2 campaigns it gets old fast
dynasties is objectively prob top 3 TW games and I do one tausret campaign one agamemnon one surfer dude i forgot his name and im already bored w the setting and map
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>>576610614
>russians
>buying
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>>576611606
>why all the hate?
>>576586115
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>>576611772
that said I'm sure the 800 people that were asking for a bronze age TW for decades are happy with it
it's a great game, only thing missing is some lands to the west but we literally don't know anything about the bronze age except homer's shit so it'd all be fantasy
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>>576586115
>>576612098
what kinda retarded logic is this?
nobody's gonna play a strategy game where they're not into the setting
there's 0 exceptions to this
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>>576611953
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>>576611606
>Pharaoh does not look like a bad game
It's not a bad game, it's fine. 6/10. About the same quality as Fallout 3.
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>>576611606
>bronze age
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>>576611606
>why all the hate?
legendjeets
why do you think you get posts like "ask sorry to Legend!" and AI slop posts?
the answer is jeets
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>>576610296
>health of the franchise
A healthy franchise does not matter to me, the best games in any given franchise were almost always made when they weren't hugely successful.
TWWH was made when the warhammer fantasy franchise was a fucking corpse and when the total war franchise was at a pretty low point. And it ended up being considered by most to be both the best warhammer fantasy video game and total war video game ever made.
I'm of the opinion that the video game industry would have been improved in the long run if there was an apocalyptic crash that destroyed all the big studios in the industry around 2012 or 2018 and just left impoverished indie studios sifting through the ashes.
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>>576611606
It's not hate, it's apathy.
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>>576614450
extremely cope opinion but I respect it
russia's culture of piracy is partly why there's basically 0 cultural output from russia tho, even ukraine has a ton of games and media coming out of it, almost nothing from russia cept some studios like saber interactive here n there (which end up moving away from russia to places where they can get paid)

compare it to japan with its worldwide girnormous cultural output with a culture of total disdain for piracy, I get it, piracy is a necessity when you're pisspoor, but russia is a middle income country now and they still pirate a lot, won't get very far in your output that way
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its ogre
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Will there be any changes to Khalida's campaign when Neferata comes along?
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>>576615693
I doubt it, but they should make toxic yuri between the two a gameplay mechanic
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>>576610107
KINO
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>>576615060
ASCENDED
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>>576616297
>cheats
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>>576616565
Surely you use some mods cheatsposter
Like better smoke for your gunpowder kind of ones
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Bros I'm shitting up crpg.
What you playing tonight? It better be khaoos.
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>>576620720
>shitting up crpg
regarding what game?
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>>576620883
Well I started playing rogue trader, right.. anon was like
>hey post in crpg about it, they play that
I told him nah.. don't wanna.. but then I was afraid I'd get an off topic ban eventually if I post about it here.
So...
I just exposed the 40k lore nerds as frauds and now they are seething over Gemini.
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>>576599904
Beta is cancelled. They accidentally let the poors sign up instead of restricting it to content creators like they were supposed to.
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>>576579591
Who left a woman in charge of star wars anyways? What a blunder. I don't care if she worked with George in the past, that doesn't excuse being a woman.
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And your favourite faction is ?
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>>576621436
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>>576621719
Shill khorne to me? Why is it great?
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>>576621889
You can kick manlets off stairs
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>>576622003
Tzeentchbros...
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>>576615693
Adding G&F to her.
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>>576595543
>The Warriors
That’s based on the Anabasis, not the Odyssey. Hence why the conflict begins with the death of Cyrus.
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>>576622359
I have actually wondered many times before why Khalida doesn't get them.
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>>576595070
odysessus is very disparaging of the gods for some reason, its mostly about being nam vet than anything than the actual story of a heros return
if you want some greek fantasy, just watch jason and argonauts instead
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>>576595070
It's okay as a movie on it's own but it's such a massive downgrade from the original storyline of the odissey that it almost feels like intentional baiting
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>>576595070
Nah, it's dogshit.
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>>576584963
Frankly if it was as simple as
>Is this someone who isn't like who I am IRL? AHHH HELP ME I CAN'T RELATE! I CANT RELATE!
Then Thrones of Britannia should have done fantastic given it's quintessential England and Vikings. Instead it did worse than Pharaoh and Troy.

>>576611606
Chariot warfare is not at all suitable to total war in a large scale context. It works smaller scale in warhammer, Pharaoh would be great in bannerlord, but that coupled with no cavalry except for 3 factions really destroys unit variety. Then couple in the
>Period is lighter on armor so you get more unga-bungas and people like armor porn.
>"I can only play as Europeans" types and they're limited to just Greece
>inordinate focus on Egypt when Egypt's interest doesn't apply to historical total wars and there's not enough unit variety within Egypt
>A majority of people's interests in history are shallow entry level experiences absorbed from pop culture while they have no frame of reference to work off of for Hittites, Assyria or Babylonia.
If you released a fantasy total war of some similarly (RELATIVE TO WARHAMMER) obscure setting like the Black Company or Wheel of Time it would similarly do poorer. Bit better, but not as good as something with that 'brand' association.
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>>576626323
He didn't say that he specifically said brown people
Lizards and Demons fighting is sick
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>>576625139
It's been a funny trip for me seeing the translation lady associated with it pre release ripping into it post release. I found the opening of the Odyssey she translated to be horrendously bland and as much as I fell for the culture warfare vulture critiquing of her, her criticism of Nolan's movie seemed very appropriate and a wider contempt for Hollywood's hand-wringing angsty themes of that American Soldier self-aggrandizing guilt of
>War is so sad so tragic :(
>NOW WATCH ME KILL SOME BITCHES OOOYEAAAA
Like she's got the usual hackneyed bleeding heart stuff, some aside bitching about filming in occupied Western Sahara but you can respect her sincerity and similarly find Nolan's contemptuous. That paradox greentexted honestly makes me think Nolan really fits the weeping faggotry of the actual Oppenheimer and feels like the atrocious line I remember from the first batman movie really came from Nolan's heart: "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you". Warts and scowling Zenyata and other trash aside, I'm just glad my beloved Dunc got Villeneuve instead of Nolan
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>>576595070
it's good, nolan hasn't made a movie not worth seeing 'yet
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>0 40k posting in this thread
grim, I miss the funposting post gameplay
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I can't wait to watch the next 40K gameplay demo exclusively on Netflix!
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>>576629953
i hear that one will be on disney+
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>>576628731
We got wegh as a 40K warboss tho
And Eldar coomposts
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Has anyone in the history of mankind managed to get a spy to work in 3K? I swear my guys post their resumes and sit there wasting space or they end up in a faction and instantly die
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>>576614450
>when the total war franchise was at a pretty low point.
It reached its low point with warhammer ironically enough
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>>576615058
Have all artists only had one face they can draw or is it a recent problem
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>>576469980
libcucks just arent allowed to criticize their holy ghetto monkeys
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>>576505986
>Vlad/Isabella are not for ntr
It's a fact that vampfus prefer Greatswords.
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>>576632173
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>>576632173
I'm sure this has been posted every single time this image has as well but it is incredible that he made an image based around a mirror and didn't realize the single vampire thing with mirrors
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>>576505316
>>576632173
You aren't an Empire man
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>>576632526
It's an elf prostitute payed to cospaly as Isabella.
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I thought this general hated geabull cause his ratcock fetish...yet when rumors of his retvrn arise people suddenly are curious...strange, isn't it? Doth protest too much
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>>576628731
>Muh blue pussy
>Muh yellow laser
>Muh skaven = Imperium
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>>576632526
Tbf I also have no idea how many of the typical vampire conventions apply to Warhammer vampires.
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>>576632173
Why is that gook obsessed with NTR
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>>576417151
Thanquol reveal-stream confirmed for the 13rd btw.
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>>576634056
>is
*was

RIP godbull
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>>576508368
I don't know if ugly bastard applies when the cuck (Vlad in this case) is himself depicted as incredibly ugly. Usually ugly bastard refers to an ugly bastard who is juxtaposed against a normal looking guy, which Vlad clearly is not.
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>>576634823
Vlad is not ugly
>rich
>confident
>immortal
>royalty
>vampire
>emperor
>tall
>muscular
Those are attractive features
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Why does the greenskin AI love giants and chariots so much?
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>>576635124
>Vlad is not ugly
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>>576595070
It’s good. The fantasy look is a bit jarring initially but you get used to it.
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>>576628731
Why is co-op so laggy in warhammer 3
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>>576593793
And yet they keep coming back for another round of Karl Franz.
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>>576637996
Are you and your friend on wifi? You should make sure you're both wired up before bitching about the game.
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>>576636443
What’s not to love about giants or chariots?
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>>576638650
My boyfriend is a third worlder and can't afford an ethernet cable
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>>576638650
Not him but CAs peer to peer connection code is well known to be completely awful
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CA...
And just like that, she's already my favorite daemonette.
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>>576636443
>look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
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>>576476805
I was happy to find out that Menelaus wears the Skyrim armor only in one scene and that he wears normal armor during the Trojan war flashbacks.
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>>576416883
Hello.
Link to new Geabull ? (His old Pixiv is super dead).
Thanks.
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>first empire campaign
i know i cheesed him, but this was still satisfying after the shit he pulled me through. and as if to punish me the greenskin to the south (gorbad?) attacks next turn.
>no big deal, just grenzstadt occupied i'll get tha
trhot declares war and attacks from the north and takes two settlement
>no big deal, at least the settlements he took are close to grenzstadt
>i was on my way anyw
ikkit walzes in with 7 twenty stacks
>gg
that fairer and stronger ai mod is too ballbusting
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>>576634013
Vampire weaknesses in Warhammer Fantasy vary with the type of vampire and the vampire's age.
All vampires have to drink blood and suffer from not drinking human blood (unless they solo and eat an ancient dragon like abhorash).

Other things ranging from autistic counting to being weak to certain herbs can be varied.

Von Carstein vampires are also a bit special, they are known to conjure storms to stop sunlight from hitting them, elder von carstein vampires are able to walk in sunlight like Bram Stoker's Dracula.
The elder vampires who can walk in sunlight can also spend time to develop the power to make it so they also have a shadow and then also cast a reflection.
They're the only vampires known to develop this particular ability (Lahmians and Necrarchs can also get the sunlight resistance, but only ancient Von Carstein's get the reflection ability).
They can also develop immunity to silver but that's not really relevant.

Notably not a weakness: Garlic
There was famously a bretonnian necrarch who purposely went around spreading the rumor that vampires are allergic to garlic, because garlic blood tastes better.
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>>576639694
why cant your vassals do that, their armies are always mid
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>>576645080
Vassals are retarded.
Only way to fix it (reliably) is use console mod to kill the army without killing the lord, then give them money to rebuild, they'll default to using the highest tier military units they can buy.
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>>576645080
because they need money and the buildings to do so
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harambe chariot, very cool
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>>576645451
What were they THINKING?
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>>576645867
what big fucking animal can we use for a khorne chariot
not these: wolves, bears, lizards, dinos, rhinos, horses, lions
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>>576645451
Can it even bend it's front limbs?
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kinda wanna play shogun 2 now
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convince me to play warhammer 3 again
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>>576648965
You will soon be able to play as Karl Franz and 1v3 Glottkin as vengeance for the End Times.
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>watch Loremaster of Sotek livestream about the End Times
>his right shoulder is twitching continuously like he's moving his right hand rapidly
What's he doing?
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>>576649430
link?
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>>576649084
Or.. play as Glottkin... Hehehehehe

FUCK KARL FRANZ
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>Rumors circulating that GW doesn't know what to do with The Old World because fans hate all of the new shit
>TOW is basically on ice until 40k is done getting its updates
>End Times is basically the end of TWW3
Is it over for fantasy bros?
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>>576652035
They're soft rebooting AoS, we know this
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>>576652659
Gay
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>>576652035
>Rumors
fag
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>>576652035
i mean what are they supposed to do
rolling back the end times is the only course of action
but its not gonna work
because we saw what happened w the new old world shit
they can't help but pozz the setting
so the fans will never be happy
so yeah its p much dead
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>>576650587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuYHim2stMc
Watch from around 3 hours in
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>>576584963
>Literally was just working on brown spear chuckas yesterday for Pharaoh.

Though I've long accepted I'm doing this jsut for my own autism and love of the modding hustle. It's like miniature painting but digital - nobody gives a shit what minis you paint but you have fun doing it. At least my plans to work on the Saracens in Medieval 3 will get more mileage in terms of utility for people.Honestly I just love speak chukkas. My favorite shit back in EB1 was Numidian cavalry and the early libyan spearmen, so I'm going to have fun with Moors and Iberians and Fatimids.
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>>576655229
ranged unit for the orcs in warcraft 1 that i played recently is a "spearman" and he just throws spears
chad shit
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>>576474746
>>576417731
Are you me?
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Free content for End Times release:
Chaos endgame invasion
Vampire Counts rework
New map adjustments as Chaos makes progress
Malekith and Tyrion rework
Avatar of Sigmar
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>>576656472
>Avatar of Sigmar
Literally no one wants him.
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Total War: Warhammer 3 content after the End Times:
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end times is the end
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I hope Neferata steals a mechanic from the Lewd Morathi mod.
Namely she confederates various demon/delf/helf LLs. In doing so she gets options with them, she can go full Dom where she maims them and gives them and their armies massive penalties at the benefit of turning herself into a one woman doom stack with loads of faction wide benefits, or she can take some faction penalties, greatly boost her casting, and be a fuck toy for the confederated LLs giving each of them massive army bonuses.
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>>576656871
This is a Tzyop
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Jerk off before posting.
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>>576656138
Zugzug.
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>>576656472
How is that supposed to be content?
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>>576652035
The fans don't hate the new stuff. Cathay is loved by many. The only people pissing themselves are little pol chuds who hate china.
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>>576661460
nobody hates cathay cause its china, they think they're too grimlight not grimdark enough etc for the setting kinda like tau
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>>576661963
Spare me your bullshit. I've seen countless people piss themselves in here about
>muh china pandering I hate china
And steam reviews with
>china and russia evil ca is horrible company for promoting china and russia
Same thing happened when three kingdoms released. A wave of china hate boners on every platform.
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>>576656472
Solid changes, can't wait to try them out.
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>>576663412
Because Cathay and Kislev had the unfortunate timing to be released right after Russia started a 5-year deathwar for the lulz and the CCP came out cheerleading for them.

The optics were not great to say the least
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>>576666615
Russia has a right to defend itself
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>>576666615
I am aware of the situation on our planet, anon. The reason for the retards chimping out doesn't really matter tho.
Point is that the people hating on cathay and kislev do it for nonsensical reasons. From hate towards irl countries that have nothing to do with warhammer, to women hatred cause of meow and katarin.
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Hey twg, check out my sick Razorgor!
Beastmen Raa Roo!
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>>576669534
that looks like a very uncomfortable bedroom slipper
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>>576670790
I guess hedgehogs can't fully ball up.
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>>576652035
ToW just had 6+ months of no news for no known reason, so behind the scenes something was fucked
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>>576669534
prickly boi
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>>576656472
Based kino...
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What happened to new victory conditions + new end game crisis (other than chaos)

Are they still happening...?
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>>576669534
cute
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Imagine the explosion of wonderful Rule 34 when 40k releases?
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>>576661963
I hate cathay because its china thoughbeit
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>>576677819
On LotET patch.
Until they start announcing delays at least
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>>576656550
only karl franz cucks dont
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>>576633768
why are her quotes so iconic?
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play cathay
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>>576685326
Who's the most fun?
Might just go Tiger lady..
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>>576685367
YinYin.
mm.. Meow is quite challenging nowadays.. Zhao is the easiest I'd say. Juan Bro is really cool with an army full of jade and jet lions but the start can be a bit challenging if skulltaker decides to become a boss.
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>>576661460
Most tabletop fags I know just hate Cathay and Kislev because they're new and perceived as not fitting, especially because all of the Cathay shit is just kind of boring.
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>>576663412
Current depictions of kislev and cathay are bad because they feel and look like out of place mod factions made by and for current year people instead of organic parts of the setting.
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>>576501640
>>576487817
#2
The cringy 'comic'
some anatomy and details are off since there was a lot to draw and I just wanted to finish it fast lol
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The 13th... Full trailer...
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>>576693008
Bittersweet. Nice.
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>>576693008
GULLIMAN is fighting so none of us can have this... That freaking man...
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>>576693008
Can you do a sequel where she installs a 10 inch cock and she uses him quite liberally.
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>>576695987
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>>576695029
Hasn't guilliman made the imperium more cooperative with eldar than at any other point in its history?
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>>576696451
Yes, it's an allegory for Trump making America even more Jewish.
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>>576416883
People hate Cathay because the art and writing team clearly are fawning over them, retconning them into being this immense realm superior to the empire in every way who taught the stupid westerners all they knew. While blatantly pozzing the western factions while staying very respectful to the portrayal of the cathayans to not offend the CCP and its millions of chinese supremacist buyers.
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>>576696451
Less guilliman and more the fact that they"re completely desperate and holding on for dear life after the fall of cadia
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HoTD has me feeling like dragonmaxxing, any good cheats for Imrik?
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>>576699619
Hows S3? I heard it was ass all around, worth a watch?
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>>576699680
I'm watching it for completionists sake, it's meh, entertaining enough, better than season 2 worse than season 1, i'm mostly waiting for The Battle above the Gods Eye but that'll be mid season 4, yet again it's being carried by Matt Smiths performance as Daemon Targaryen. The latest episode ended with a great deal of hype though but that's to be expected as it's the penultimate episode of season 3.
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>>576699980
Bleh, thanks. Glad to hear Matt Smith is killing it, my FOREVER DOCTOR...

I'll maybe catch it soon then, can't wait for more Dunk n Egg though. At least that's bretty good.
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>>576696451
>more cooperative with eldar
No

More like the Aeldari and the Imperium have significantly disengaged over the other since Girlyman arrived and Ilyan Natase was assigned as his Eldar ambassador

They still go at it randomly but they're not Tallarn buddy-buddy or pre-Heresy/pre-Webway Project Emprah x Eldrad

The Imperium let the Dark Eldar inside the Imperial Palace before the Eldar
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>>576700250
Yeah they're diverging from the books a lot in the final episode of season 3, PV shows Daemon at Tumbleton with Caraxes when in the books neither were there so if you're a diehard loyalist for the books you won't like it as it may as well be a fanfic. They can make the story as shit as they want as long as Gods Eye is good, genuinely the best part of the Dance of Dragons. May as well wait till the 9th so you can binge all 8 episodes.
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>>576699289
>Chaos endgame invasion
>Vampire Counts rework
>New map adjustments as Chaos makes progress
Also:
Skaven and Undead endgame invasion.
Archaon campaign changes (including cross confederation).
Sigvald rewworked (to be Slaaneshi WoC).
Victory conditions reworked.
>Malekith and Tyrion rework
Absolutely not confirmed.
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>>576702021
Can't wait to get raped by rats even more so than I already am
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>drop warden cage on enemy lord
>eltharion with an attack to defence diference of 70+ proceds to kick the enemy around for 12 kilometers and deal a grand total of 0 damage in melee over 30 seconds
It's unbelievable how awful this engine is
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>>576703025
It's less the engine and more that CA seems to intentionally make hurting units in many situations almost impossible through knockdown and shit animations.
I say intentionally because dogs exist and will turn routing infantry into corpse piles in seconds.
It's definitely intentional that knockdowns don't count as a hit by the unit doing the knocking down.
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>>576703025
>cage them
>shoot them
Easy.
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thoughts?
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been away for a couple of days, were the teased bone daddy units figured out?
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>>576704680
High priest
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>>576703363
From what i've seen so far from them incompetency seems way more likely to be the reason
>>576703814
That doesn't change the fact that melee combat in this game runs on jank and bugs
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>>576693008
cute
joke regiment though
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>>576704680
1 - Dieter Helsnicht
2- Liche High-Priest
3- Spirits Host
4- ???
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Today I will remind them
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>>576487817
>>576501640
>>576693008
based drawfag, you're good
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>>576704042
Standard unit clutter. Okay if you want more options to theme an army around a basic unit type.
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>Want to play a good guy campaign
>End up playing korn
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i just gave half of my treasury to marry sun ren
warhammer faggots will never be this satisfied
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End Times will be bad
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>>576705886
A dozen of /twg/'s Star Wars posters remained.
They were the only survivors of the Total War: 40K announcement trailer and they had gathered in the beginning of the new thread. Jedifags, Sithniggers and even a few lost looking Ahsoka simps. Anon noticed that there were no droid posters in their numbers, thinking that perhaps a few had survived the Primarchposting in the last thread, but knowing that they might as well have been on the other side of /vg/. This was the end. They all knew it. But none of them gave voice to that fact. He knew all their names now. Before, they had just been grime-streaked faces among the endless days and nights of shitposting. But now they were brothers. Anons he would die with, in honour. Flashes of the Emperor lit up the thread, Boreale posts punched across the page, scorching holes through which the incoming T'au spam could be seen. The Farseer AI art rained down on the thread, in time to watch /twg/ die. "Did we hurt them, Anon?", asked a Reyposter, "Did this mean anything?" Anon thought for a moment before replying. "Yes", He said. "We hurt them here. They'll remember this." An image of the Blood Angels pre-order bonus slammed into the thread, finally blasting what little remained of its Leiaposts into piles of ashes and dead dreams. The Star Wars posters did not throw themselves into cover, or run for shelter. There was little point. The 40Kfags were taking over /twg/, and they were thorough. They would not let Vader be posted again. Walls of mocking posts bloomed all across the thread, closing in on them with smug inevitability.
The battle for /twg/, was over...
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>>576708795
>End Times comes
>It’s awesome
>CA announces that it’s canon that chaos won
>killswitch the game
>no refunds
>announces Total Warhammer: Age of Sigmar
Yeah it’s gonna be bad
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>>576706785
Chaos is the good guy of warhammer
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>>576709253
Honestly, 40k getting canceled and CA pivoting to Total War Star Wars is still pretty likely.
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>>576693008
Hey drawfag, you ever look into Love Can Bloom? Just curious.
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>>576711934
bruh
At the very best it's 3rd Total War in production, after Med3. And TW:SW would cease support before TW:40k runs out of DLCs anyway, despite being released much later
But it won't be 3rd Total War on Warcore. SW is a dying IP and expensive too, with very little DLC potential. WW2 will be - the most popular historical setting, Middle Ages being merely 2nd after it. Thus echoing Relic's Dawn of War -> Company of Heroes path, since if you can do 40k, you can do WW2 as well.
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>>576714068
Star Wars is much bigger than shit like 40k.
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Any news on that Rome 2 update/rework/whatever they teased months ago?
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>>576714409
>big, as in popularity
it's dead jim
>big, as in lore and dlc potential
40k mogs. SW at best is a one time injection of money at a release and that's it. There are only 2 factions per era, with everything else being glup shitto plankton. It could work as a SAGA game I guess
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>>576634056
Because gooks are dead inside and the only way they can feel anything is if subjected to abject misery.
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>>576703363
>>576705313
Given there was a good long while where hounds also didn't do damage when chasing enemies, I suspect incompetence is correct.
Remember when for a while it was reversed and chariots/horses/etc hitting any anti-large unit was taking damage per second from the unit, and it was due to some error they introduced with an ogre patch?
I suspect that coding error has had ripple effects to basically every melee unit, and they need to fix them all by hand to get them to be able to rip people apart on a charge.
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>>576714409
Not after Kathleen Kennedy raped the IP.
Disney are lucky the merch still sells regardless to boomer parents
Grogu flopped.
All their TV shows flopped.
Their hail mary(lol) with Gosling might do well because it's Gosling.
Their games?
Kotor 1 remake? Dead
Kotor follow up? 4 years out
Jedi3? Saudis just bought EA, who knows where or when it shows up
The racing game? looks good
The xcom clone? I hope it's good, but it seems a bit barebones with how cheap it is, they have no faith in it or someshit
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In another world we would've had... TW: Lord of the Rings... and... TW: Stargate
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>>576714925
I think Star Wars is cringe af but u are retarded, anon. You are legitimately retarded.
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>>576716598
Who's Rouge Trader? Did you drop it yet
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>>576714925
By your low IQ logic, SF is 20 times more popular than DC.
>>576716753
It's fun, I played Tekken today tho. The game taught me some funny 40k lore.. about how the mechanicus are just actually really stupid and don't understand anything they are doing. Holding huge rituals for some machine with scented candles and chants and all they did in the end was flip a switch.. They pray to the machine souls which are just fucking AIs.. they shoot random tesla coil arcs at machine to make em move and act like it's god's powers..
I only ever liked the Tyranids in 40k but with how hilariously stupid the Mechanicus are, I like them too now.
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>>576717124
DC is dead
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Skulltakers VCO campaign is pretty cool and unique
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>>576717463
I like Skulltaker, what's the difference?
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It's up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YSF_bCQ2BY
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How can 40k flop if Im going to buy everything it shits out at maximum prices?
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>>576693008
Drawchad, toss a glance at the next thread or two, something is cooking for (You)
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>>576717595
It's neat, 1 makes you take the key settlements and build up the core buildings

3 makes you run down mega south and take that whole area

(i have no idea how this affects his lore, maybe its lore friendly)
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>>576717853
>take and build up shit with khorne
You need to rope yourself asap
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>>576718063
SHUT UP GO PLAY RT
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We are receiving a Lords of the End Times trailer before September.
Source: I just know it to be true.
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>>576718506
THE 13TH
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>>576707385
>sun ren
Grace, take away this man's mods
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>>576718189
No, I gotta go watch anime now.
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>>576718063
Khorne is fine with building if it's a fucking sick arena or something
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I wish Harry was a proper LL with a faction so bad, bros.
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so when they said this summer nagash they meant fucking september or what
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WHITE BORIS SUMMER
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>>576721195
HARALD HAMMERSTOOOOOORM
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>>576722386
IT'S HAMMER TIME
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>>576721951
december
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>>576721951
1st time here ?
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Stuff.
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>>576721951
They're going to stealth drop at gamescom, any later would clash too hard with DoW's release.
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>>576721195
CA eventually arrived at this same issue as mods long time ago. IE is way too small and too much of a theme park. Already immortal LL borders another immortal LL. Generic Lords are now useless. There is no more room to put in new lords anymore. This is why they cope with Legendary Heroes. Every faction is now everywhere turning every location into indistinguishable slop to make it all worse.

TW40K seems to be made up from many separate The Old World style campaigns and generated ones too. This honestly is a much better design. It will let them put literally everyone into the game overall, because not everyone has to be put on this same, one Campaign now.
There will be no need to destroy location's atmosphere and flavor, Armageddon can remain Imperium vs Orks vs World Eaters/Khorne war zone without random Nids and Necrons unlike what happened to Lustria with barely any Lizardmen in it anymore. For different factions there will be different flavorful campaigns instead.
And if you wish to fight as a Ghazghkull against Nids and Necrons, you will be able to do so in generated campaign as well.

Advantages of both, disadvantages of none
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>>576723759
So when are they revealing beastmen and Moonclaw? You don't seriously believe it will be skaven, right?
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>>576724197
I continue to argue that pretty much every minor settlement is superfluous and the maps would be improved by just removing them all and leaving the major settlements.
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>>576723759
THE 13TH!!!!!!
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>>576724415
This is somewhat a thing in 3K. Minor settlements are really minor there
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>>576724415
As much as I love the dopamine of each turn having something to do since there's so much shit on the map... Less of that please, CA
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>>576724197
Yeah, the idea they've had for 40k seems like a good one to me, letting every campaign be unique and flavorful rather than a complete clusterfuck. Still, easier to do in 40k than in Fantasy, half the appeal of Fantasy is precisely having one defined map with recognizable areas everyone already knows and loves and would be upset if they weren't there. With 40k you could straight up show four AI generated planets with wildly different environments called Oritryhix I II II and IV and just say they're in whatever random segmentum and it'd still fit in. Can't do that with the Old World.

>>576724415
I'll agree with this though. I've hated the province system all the way since being introduced in Rome 2. I hate having to unify provinces instead of simply letting borders form naturally. Not being able to use edicts and sometimes governors because you might be in charge of a city but that small country town way over there happens to be inextricably bound to it with magic, but it's owned by someone you don't want to piss off, is fucking frustrating and immersion breaking.
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>Map size: Mini
40king time...
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>100+ turns
>0 wars with belegar
>some minor faction on the edge of my territory at -100
>it is time I will sacrifice myself to take away this single settlement from the player before I am completely fucking obliterated by their counter attack
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>>576595070
It's not really the Odyssey™ it's just wearing its skin.
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>>576713243
Yeah, I know what it is, read some bits and seen the art. Pretty cute.
>>576717793
Will do
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>>576724197
>>576725047
Wait how does the campaign map work for 40k?
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>>576733485
They talked about this and not indepth yet and we merely got a glimpse, so much is still to be seen and much is still an assumption

You select either premade or make your own Chapter/Waaagh/Craftworld/Regiment
Then within your selection you can play multiple battles/campaigns and expand your faction across them
According to first vlog you can

>Play Immortal Empires sized even campaign for an entire Planetary System which can have up to 10 planets, with each planet being roughly continent sized
>Fight war for a single planet, if you want a shorter campaign
>Play essentially a custom battle
They call it "Flashpoint System"
Each of those counts for improving your faction across campaigns, whatever this means.

We will have both premade Campaigns like Armageddon, and later more, probably mimicking recent events in 40k like Maelstrom, Eye of Terror and 500 Worlds and others they listed in White Dwarf
And 4x style generated ones, which is why they have this system they showed off of merging Planet "Biomes" with their "Civilization Level" to increase their variety. So you can get Hive World on a Toxic Planet, Hive World on a Desert Planet, Feudal World in a Jungle etc
There is apparently some cinematic introduction like TWW3 intro with Kislev, this might be part of an Armageddon too. Probably is, they said that Nazdreg will play a role in it as well.

I suspect they ripped off the Empire mode from Age of Wonders: Planetfall functionally. Along with many other features. Ultimately though, it's the biggest mystery of the game and the biggest change to TW formula yet and I really wish they showed this off already instead of battles which play exactly like we suspected they will.
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>>576735661
Planet generation system
It works for battlefields too, obviously. That way you can get every map layout in every biome, increasing amount of battle maps so they are less repetitive.
For an example that infamous TWW map with Sigmar statue could show up as a desert with Statue changed into Gork and Mork, or into jungle, or frozen landscape etc. Map layouts will be universal, but aesthetics will change, so you aren't locked into only 3 maps per Temperate climate, like in TWW, but game will make use of all of them.
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>>576736183
Most likely other premade campaigns
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>>576736396
other potential campaigns
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>>576723759
who's the Yari Ashigaru of Warhammer?
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>decide to play counts
>isabella has better lord bonuses
>vlad gets a harem
decisions decisions
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>>576611606
Timing, you can't understand it if you weren't there
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>tease undead legion all week
>tease a trailer next week
>trailer is actually just for the rat they already revealed on accident
>still no nagash or neferata showcase despite them being the stars of the dlc
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>>576739572
Asinine mortal, CA's marketing strategy is beyond your comprehension.
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>>576737510
Vlad for diplomacy lines ofc
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>>576741031
I get why it was applied to vlad but I really hate how hard CA pushed the vassal """improvements""" in WH3. I'm painting the map, dammit. I don't want any faggy vassals. at least vlad is still playable unlike archaon I suppose.
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>>576741538
Did they? I've tried allying with the empire as vlad before and it technically works but then they don't do much
Although it would suck regardless because your land hurts them and their land hurts you
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What's this I hear about REX/M2EX being stolen source code??
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>>576741708
You've got the right of it which is why it's dumb. If they're the same faction as you, you want to consolidate them. If they're an enemy faction, you should want them annihilated. If you're playing the Order bros you should make alliances. The push to try and make vassalizing people a legitimate overarching strategy in 3 was a wet fart for all involved.
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>>576693008
kys nigger
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>>576741902
They asked Claude "Re-create Total War's source code." and it did it the fucking madbot.
But for real. Vibe coding is getting insane.
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>>576693008
Live, aryan.
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>>576735661
>>576736183
>>576736396
>>576736620
Well that sounds like they're getting ready to nickel and dime the shit out of people.
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>>576741538
>>576741708
>>576742280
As much as I hate SFO, I wish there was a mod to steal their VampCounts vassal mechanic.
Basically having Vassals (and more so if you own Reikland) you can do special research that causes your vassals to spread Vampiric Corruption as well as make it so your vassals are immune to vampiric corruption.
Then there's a special research line for owning Altdorf of course.
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I'm playing the Sisters of Twilight right now and I feel like the Hawk Riders just don't do much? Even with the arrow ability I feel I could get something better.
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>>576747517
They aren't exactly meta, but they're better in melee than pteradons, nice for picking off darksharts then plinking monsters
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>>576747517
They're flying helstorms. What more could you want?
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>>576747517
They're okay.
If you take ALL of the buffs that Sisters get to flying/ranged units they become ideal for bullshit cheesing.
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>>576747868
Helstorms with more than one single shot?
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>>576747517
you do need to maximum their damage and if possible have multiple engineer backpacks to refill your ammunition, you ultimately have to abuse the fact all your dudes are able to gang up on anything that is by itself for even a few seconds which gyros do feel way better at doing
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>>576747517
Once you get two charge on the AoK it gets very cheesy.
The unit itself is dogshit but the skill obliterates infantry and deals good damage to monsters.
Also once you're running your 10+ hawk rider stack you can just use all your skills + ammo and if you haven't lost yet then just retreat with 0 losses while their army is completely mangled
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Keeper of the lore status ?
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New?
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>>576748916
There already is new, don't know why OP created it early and isn't linking it
>>576744415
>>576744415
>>576744415
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>>576749092
Some board culture is to wait for page 10 first, I guess he's from one
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>>576749770
I know, but then why create it early. Either wait for page 9 or 10 to create it, or link it if you created one early so that somebody else doesn't create a dupe.
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>>576747517
Hawks are great in general, mandatory with SoT. Their ranged dps isn't that good compared to archers on foot but their ability damage is good and they have AP melee.
Strong vs ground melee, shoot into their backs and charge from behind when out of ammo.
Strong vs ground ranged, just charge them, don't get into a shootout.
Okay vs air melee, can clear small units but struggle vs dragons.
Strong vs air ranged, just charge them, don't get into a shootout.



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