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>RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army Released on Steam and Switch 2:
https://youtu.be/H9Xyh3SciAM?si=fJ4lZMo_4My9z9_b [Open]

>Devil Summoner has a partial translation patch for PSP
https://romhack.ing/database/content/entry/lBnxBLPnRF21TFZmhVUKdg/shin-megami-tensei-devil-summoner-english-translation

>Giten Megami Tensei's partial translation patch for PC-98
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/

>Devil Children: Black Book/Red Book's partial translation patch for PSX
https://romhack.ing/database/content/entry/uH27yhvRRaSyUplzu5IUCw/shin-megami-tensei-devil-children-black-book-red-book/

>Gmode rereleased DDS A's Test Server on April 16th
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2627690/GMODE_DIGITAL_DEVIL_SAGA__As_TEST_Server/

>Vengeance OST scans
https://imgur.com/a/smtvv-ost-liner-notes-cNN28YJ

>Shin Megami Tensei The Board Game Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game

>Megaten Fusion Tools [For real fusion autists!]
https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/home

>Archive of 3DS Texture Packs
https://reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1b6v86u/3ds_games_hd_texture_packs_are_gone/

>Old neocities site containing info and useful links (no longer updated)
https://smtgen.neocities.org/#original-post

>SMT TTRPG Campaign PDF:
https://files.catbox.moe/rdqfh3.pdf

other important link:
https://x.com/kazumaKaneko666

Last cycle: >>575159980
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I finnished 4 the other day and I liked it alot. IMO it did peak at the blasted/infernal tokyo and the law and chaos endings were shit. allthough I guess that is the point of it. also half the side quests had you wandering around for an hour unless you used a guide. I started playing 4A right after and so far they improved everything gameplaywise at the expense of making the story worse. I just beat king frost in the fairy forrest. does it get any better storywise?
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>>576489625
There are some beats that are pretty good but some of the character writing will get you pissed off. Story wise, it’s meh but it’s not going to be boring.
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>>576489625
How are you liking its glass cannon experience compared to other games?
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Hi I want Yoko to piss in my mouth and bite my ears that's all.
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I want to destroy the world and remake it to fit my ideals
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yknow i wonder why they choose to give the chinese demons their chinese names in the team maniax games but not in the persona games
i mean, it's probably just because they have different teams localizing but still
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>>576499474
Get in line, buddy
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>Hiroko becomes a goddess over time through stories about her passed down through generations
That's a neat idea.
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>>576499716
i say this but they're not exactly consistent with it either
hua po is still hua po in persona
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P3hJZ_FpwM
It's been a long time since I played SJ but I swear the battle theme just randomly gets in my head out of nowhere.
>>576489625
>storywise
depends. I personally REALLY fucking love it but it's scuffed as all hell. It really depends on how much you like Asahi. and I never really get the hate on her.
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>>576488775
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>>576509524
her alternate school uniform is absolutely based
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>>576509724
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>>576510787
I wish she'd do that to me
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i've been thinking:
>hazama's usage of hiragana boku for all instances of his normal self in the sfc version may give the impression of his true self being more childish even when grown up when compared to the ps1 version's split of using hiragana boku for kid hazama and kanji boku for grown up hazama.
so i feel in the sfc version, his grown up self still has a slight childish edge even when his mind becomes healthy again, but the ps1 version makes his healthy self seem more naturally mature.
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Abdiel is still so fucking ugly. Like a stripper with a toy sword drenched in piss-yellow.
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Thoughts on Devilman? People told me to read it because I wanted something more like SMT. Is Devilman Crybaby an okay adaptation?
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>>576515459
I haven't watched Crybaby, only read the original manga. But it's 1000% the heart of SMT. I'd recommend reading it even outside SMT it's massively influential across Japanese media. It's also a great read in general. It's not really an action comic, there's very little actual fighting, more of commentary on the dark side of humanity and telling the story of society's collapse.
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>>576516089
Thoughts on Violence Jack?
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>>576516186
If Devilman is the first half of SMT1, Violence Jack would be the second half.
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>>576515454
Nah, her outlandish design is sexy as hell.
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>>576515454
Ok, Yuzuru.
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>>576515454
>Hot brown blue lipstick musclemommy angel will split her head in two and become a gross abomination if she gives you the succ
You know what, got me convinced I am a chaoscuck now
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>>576517957
>Hot brown blue lipstick musclemommy angel will split her head in two and become a gross abomination if she gives you the succ
And it was the greatest blow job of his life.
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>>576509524
need this but her normal uniform
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>写せ身
>essence
Sou nano ka?
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>>576520615
wait til you see un no kou
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>telling teachers is useless
Well yeah they're nips so-
>So you should kill them yourself
Hol' on now.
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>>576523876
Shooting up school is definite solution to bully problem, she's being pragmatic and bullies don't deserve human rights
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>>576525304
>Sahori gets bullied and beaten up
>wants to kill her bullies
>Yoko classmates and teachers try to kill her
>wants to end the world

That's all well and good but it's been said in game and even by Doi that Sahori and Yoko are direct parallels to the MC and then Aogami will say in one convo that the MC seems strangely adapt at fighting for his life. Why the FUCK can't they just tell us what the MC's backstory is? What happened to him? What was the horrific shit he went though that turned him into a recluse?
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>>576525665
No way that girl is human. She thinks like an ork.
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sexylice
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puffylice
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are the SMT OVAs any good? Looking more at Tokyo Revelations
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>>576487649
>[Open]
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>>576489625
>does it get any better storywise?
Not really, but it can get more enjoyable based on your decisions.
Only towards the last stretch though.
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>>576525665
Probably got bullied for being gay or something, we'll never really know until Atlus let's Doi talk more about SMT VV.
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>>576510787
Sahori (denim)
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>>576523876
They should go back to commentating on more adult issues in the next smt. The small plotline about school bullying felt too minor for the scale these games operate at.
>>576489625
>>576507959
SMT IV and IVA have a pretty clear neutral tilt. However IVA introduces some really interesting concepts and somewhat makes use of the light/neutral/dark axis. (not in gameplay, just story choices) It's just that the story was written kinda poorly and the atmosphere of the main cast was too persona-like for some fans. I think it's a story downgrade from SMT IV but the gameplay is better so it's almost on par.
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>>576515454
Isnt that the point?
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I'm surprised I haven't seen this trope yet in all the SMT games, but I sorta want to see the best friend homo comic relief who becomes GOD LEVEL tier just outta pure love for the MC. Granted I think I've only saw it in anime like 3-4 times but each time was pretty kino.
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>>576516746
>>576516186
>>576516089
>>576515459
I've just finished reading Devilman and Violence Jack back to back and that shit was fucking awesome. It's a shame that people disregard the OVA for being edgeporn since westerners can't handle Go Nagai but fuck man that ending was amazing for both of them. What do I read next?
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>>576544087
It would be nice to have a male buddy who fills the traditional "heroine" slot. All your male buddies in most mainline always become alignment reps and you gotta kill them, while there's usually a girl in the group who stays no matter what alignment. Mainly SMT I and II though.

I know for those games they played Adam and Eve with SMT I and for SMT II Hiroko is your family, but it feels like it would be compelling if you just had a bro who stuck with you no matter what. Like if MT2's Dark Hero never crashed out if you listened to TTW and he stayed with you. Or if you could follow him instead.
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>>576548084
I don't mind him dropping out of the party but I wanted a "homo-ish" like dynamic (I guess Jun can sorta fit, but he's not really the comedy relief type) where the dude genuinely loves (and is a bit obsessive over MC) and when he splits up or thinks MC is dead or something like that he goes full fucking nuclear.
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>>576515454
she's yellow for an amazing reason
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>>576548745
anone_sorede on twitter is your pick if you want a mt2 fanartist with a homo-ish dynamic, lol. Though they're more a full-on BL artist.
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So, Suzuki Kazunari was the one who chose the demons for SMT1. I wonder if it was also the case for 2 and If... I do feel like the demon selection in these early games is different from what you get later, especially for the early/mid game demons.
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>>576526001
She was the goddess in the previous battle for the throne so she probably already saw a lot of deaths even putting aside whatever school bullying she suffered through recently.
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>>576548084
>>576548745
Are you guys just pretending V doesn't exist as a joke or what I don't get it.
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>>576448817
Quick question,
I was experimenting in the Velvet Room and whipping up a persona for single target combat and hopefully boss bully, this guy came out with a heart next to his name. What's that for?
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>>576561905
it's like the materials you can trade in Shinshoudo Antiques in Paulownia
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>>576561669
To be fair, I didn't play SMT V that much. Aogami feels more like a plot device/yaoibait to me than some bro you grew up with or befriended. He also feels too robotic, which fits, but isn't what we're talking about. I think the guy from earlier means someone like Yosuke from P4.

One thing I liked about SMT I is that you don't initially know any of your party members personally. It's implied you get along as you explore. Except the heroine who goes along with you. Though I don't know how I feel about the homo-ish stuff, just sounds like it's easy to turn into yaoibait. If you really want BL in a game, don't bait it, just do it. You can present best bros without it being gay.
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>>576565603
Aogami is more like a plot device you're describing in the original but not in VV. The bench makes him much more into a companion especially with how often he checks on you and supports you in battle. But they should have added more character to their interactions. Part of the problem with that is that it also needs the MC to not be so silent. Aogami is the emotionally ignorant one and the MC is the one that teaches him how to adapt. But the MC is also a little shit and there are select times where you can tease Aogami (like Masakado's quest) or even just trying to explain to him how to have fun.
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>>576566375
I feel like they should've done the character dev during the main story/side stories rather than events you have to make happen. The MC being silent outside of dialogue choices is common for all megaten since they're somewhat self-inserts. But every mainline makes an attempt to characterize and develop characters during the main story, which V and VV lack for Aogami.
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>>576548084
There’s Atsuro in devil survivor, who sticks by the main character no matter what alignment you go
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>SMT4A
>OG Boss theme plays
fuck yeah
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hoy
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>>576561669
And IVA and Strange Journey.
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>>576561669
You lack reading comprehension, anon-kun.
>>576565603
Yeah sorta but I was thinking a bit more Teddie-ish actually.
>>576583319
?
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Young Man
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>>576585225
>You lack reading comprehension, anon-kun
No, Aogami is exactly what you're describing. Unless you're only talking about gameplay where you want a male healer and spell caster that stays through the game. He was going to be playable at some point but they cut it for whatever reason.
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washed out raidou models....
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Young man check out this fire mash up
https://youtu.be/bIN87ynWA7M?si=UFEwBa29Kk3JDRuT
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>>576561905
It's a sign that if you unlock all the moves of that Persona, it'll give you a special item.
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>>576607275
>meguro
Way too layered, the ps2 tracks have much simpler mixing and don't sound like they stole zun's grating guitar samples
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Kaneko's offical response when asked about his dick size.
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Hoydou Hoyzunoha
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>>576585225
In IVA you have Dagda as your buddy character and in Strange Journey you have Arthur that largely fill the same role.
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>>576561905
>What's that for?
It means that you can get an item after you learned all of that Persona's skills.
Usually it's an accessory you can equip to your characters to activate some passive effect in battle.
[Element] Boost, Null [Element], Arms/Spell Master, etc.
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you're getting your wish, anon who wanted to see them make out
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>>576625912
nice
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>>576592825
>>576623435
Neither are the type I'm talking about either. He's gotta be
>A. Homo
>B. Comic Relief
>C. Goes batshit insane
He needs to match all 3.
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>>576635425
>I want heroine male
>goes batshit insane
What?
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why is ippon datara brute and not jaki in v
i have thought this since the game released
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Holy fuck this is rushed.
They wait until you finish the first area to even introduce Tao and her alleged friend, and then literally cram the entire thing in two cutscenes that are separated by like 4 random encounters, tops.
Why even keep Lahmu in the game if this is what you do with it?
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>>576641162
Do you think they were originally going to make Sahori go batshit with Lahmu but had to scrap it and turn it into this instead last minute?
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>>576643062
Whatever the plan might have ever been, this part, amazingly, feels even more underbaked than the original. I'm glad to be back in Da'at but what was even the point of the 20 minutes of cutscenes and walking around in a school that instantly gets obliterated? It just breaks the pace and is extra jarring that you go from "A transfer student hottie that winks at you" SoL back to naamah going "REND, SLAUGHTER" back to "I'm a bad friend so I'll stab these for you" without any transition.
If I were Lahmu I'd be platinum mad at getting fucked over this hard too
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oh, the gmode announcement was harvest moon
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>>576641162
>>576643908
Because Lahmu has a whole section to himself in CoC.
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Tao's legs
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Does the new Digimon game scratch that megaten itch? Or does it just look similar because it has the same artist as Devil Survivor?
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>>576661973
meh...sorta? How much do you like jank because CS is a lot closer and it's more kinoer
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Yoko's legs
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>>576666663
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Nahobussy
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Aogami won the Nahobussy bowl despite the seethe and doubters.
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>>576561905
Maxed out the magician link and concluded the story of Kenji the Milf Hunter. Also found some footage of Junpei's room and discovered he has stage 1 NEETdom, which has horrified Mitsuru to her core. She is likely considering how to arrange his accidental death during one of our future Tartarus runs.
Speaking of which I may have gotten the slightest bit carried away while fulfilling requests from Elizabeth and I'm almost certain our entire squad is disgustingly over-leveled for whatever abomination is waiting for us on the next full moon. Our team is roughly level 27/28-ish.
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It's over
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>>576681738
Atlus melty
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>>576681738
You knew it was coming. Atlus ninjas were never going to let him keep it up.
BACK UP EVERYTHING NOW
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>>576681738
what happened?
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>>576683401
he whined plenty about his time at atlus and this is the summary >>575171671
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IT'S GOING DOWN NOW
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good news
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>>576684191
Fuck you for reminding me, it's stuck in my head again
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>>576684368
Wait, I thought they were done with it a while ago?
Also who won the demon poll?
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>>576685198
They already said they're announcing the winner at the concert and revealing the merch for it at the same time.

>>576684368
Will it be the fan meeting with Kozuka too do you think or just the concert?
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>>576686292
>They already said they're announcing the winner at the concert and revealing the merch for it at the same time.
Thanks.
For some reason, I expect Shuvuu to win, she's a very popular pairing with Raidou.
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damn, he's nuking everything
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poop demon when
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>>576684191
dogshit song from a dogshit game
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>>576694471
i mean of course this would happen
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will /smtg/ be able to stay off page 10 without kaneko dripfeed?
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>>576695820
Kanbari?
Belphegor?
Tlazolteotl?
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>>576697569
no
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>>576697569
it's honestly doubtful, like 2/3 of these threads lately have been entirely about that
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>>576697569
mudo
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Glasya labola looks cool but why does he have a bronze-angular fin and winged-shouldertips when he's organic?
Ditto for qadistu lilith. The designs are mostly good but the random holes-phobia craters and marine life shells sprouting at the joints look so out of place.
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>>576697754
those are toilet demons, not poop demons
there is a difference
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>>576681738
no...the Kanekinos...
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surely a MegaTen autist has made a bot that auto saved every post that Kaneko posted right?
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i honestly don't believe atlus really sent lawyers just to make kaneko stop posting some trivia about the works he's done like yeah he did whine a bit about old atlus being filled with incompetent rude people but that's like 1 among 100 posts.
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>>576656986
NTA, but it's practically the same thing with the exact same amount of wasted potential, wasn't it?
I don't remember Lahmu accomplishing anything different in CoV than they did in CoC, and their story starts and ends in the 2nd region of Da'at either way still.
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>>576681738
It's pretty obvious Atlus was going to step in and silence him with how much shit he was talking about them.
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>>576681738
>>576702792
>>576704863
I don't think it's Atlus. Kaneko's job is to PR about Tsukuyomi, and as soon as 1 person managed to get a question answered by Kaneko everyone took that as an opportunity to send him like a billion questions a day. He basically had to be on twitter 24/7 seeing the most menial shit ever like "what color are each heroine's panties?" and choosing not to reply or "kaneko is it true atlus hates you". It's bound to get tiring. It was nice to see niche stuff being answered and seeing that part of the old kaneko was there but he wants to move on from Atlus and people won't let him.
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>>576696932
Dogshit post from a dogshit Anon.
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>>576705106
>what color are each heroine's panties?"
If I actually had a xitter account, I would have asked that.
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What will be Kaneko-san's next scheme to draw attention to him and his game?
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less washed out raidou models.......
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>>576705106
No reason he would delete everything instead of going "Well guys answering your questions was fun but I can't do it anymore for the time being because I'm too busy" if that was the case
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>>576712395
he was already kind of deleting stuff every couple weeks, I remember anons would mention his post count diminishing every other day so I guess he simply finally got tired
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>>576712395
Asian artists are notoriously mentally ill and prone to flipping out and nuking their accounts because a fly buzzed wrong at them that day.
Kaneko isn't a picture of sanity given what he's last been up to
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>>576703054
Lahmu managed to kill the Nahobino and would have gotten away with it if not for Tao. He got pretty far.
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>>576656986
That's not an excuse, if they didn't know how to do this part they should have just chucked it out altogether. They wrote the scene like a key turning point for Tao but you've known her for all of 5 minutes so it has zero impact because it's divorced of past actions as contrast. Ditto Lahmu and Sahori.

>>576714457
The cutscenes have a real bad case of railroading so it's less "he got far" and more "the plot wanted a ressurection so it kills you/tao".
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>>576699080
>like 2/3 of these threads lately have been entirely about that
And that one anon posting lewds.
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Kaneko...
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>>576725006
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thoughts on if...?
honestly, hazama's backstory has made a lot more sense after looking into his specific archetype. he's called nekura which is a specific term in japanese culture that carries a wider meaning that doesn't have a 1:1 english equivalent. it's like (dark) withdrawn and anti-social, quiet, etc.

with this in mind, it can be inferred that akiko probably liked the opposite personality type of neaka, which refers to more outgoing (bright) people, presumably ryuichi fits. since akiko specifically didn't like hazama for being nekura.
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How did (you) discover the series anon? Not much going on so we might as well reminisce about the past. I saw Rasen Bran's old introductory video back in 2016 or so, and asked one of my computer savy uncles to burn the Nocturne ISO into an empty disc as a birthday gift.
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>>576733661
Persona 3 into 4 into DDS into mainline proper.
I don't even remember why I played p3.
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>>576733661
i don't really remember, but it was probably through persona. p4a maybe
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>>576733661
I listened to some of the SMTIV OST on youtube around the time it released then decided to buy it. It was when there weren't really any good JRPGs on the 3DS so it seemed like a no brainer. I definitely don't regret it but I remember being mad that it was $10 more expensive than other 3DS games. Fucking Atlus tax.
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Why does the smt v angel fight song sounds like that
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>>576733661
technically started with p3 but dropped it early on. then played p4 all the way through. then finished p3. then played smt4. then p5. then several other megaten games.
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>>576734794
their leader is dead
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>>576733661
I liked hiimdaisy's MGS comics. Then she made the P4 comic and so I got into Atlus games since then.
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>>576733661
saw something with P4 then I started P1 > P3 > P4 then Nocturne blew me away and made me a mature and hardcore Shen Megoomi Tensay player
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>>576733661
Got burned out on pokemon and wanted to try other monster tamer games, saw SMT IV and SMT SJ redux at gamestop, and got hooked on the franchise.
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>>576733661
>How did (you) discover the series anon?
I'm trying to but I just can't remember.
Probably looked into Persona-related info back when I played P1 PSP and that's how I found out about MegaTen.
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>>576733661
Played Persona 3, liked it, then Persona 4, didn't like it as much. Then I saw SMT4 threads on 4chan and was allured by people saying the game required no grinding, which is what always felt wrong to me in JRPGs. The no grinding part is necessarily true, at least, from a philosophical point of view, but I ended up really liking how the narrative rejected the usual japanese friendship and feel good tropes. Got hooked at the part where the yakuza bred and lobotomized people for the purpose of producing redpills, thought that was very smart and metal.
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>>576737451
Oh shit, that's very possibly it, the comic dubs on youtube
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>>576733661
Through a vidya magazine that shilled Nocturne when it released in Europe under the name of Lucifer's Call.
The dude that tested it heard about SMT1&2 but never got to play them so SMT3 was his first SMT too and he liked it and managed to convince me to play it too.
I pirated it first since I was a poorfag but the EU version had a well known bug that would freeze the game under certain conditions (mainly casting spells, playing on any refresh rate that is not 60Hz and others that I don't remember) so I ended buying it.
It was sure a different era, where gaming journalists were passionate and actually played games...
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man iv's soundtrack probably isn't the best i've ever heard but it might very well be the most fitting soundtrack i've heard
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>>576684043
what's the extent of some interviews/book info being false?
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Is anyone asking him about his new game
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An smt game but you have to journey from Kyoto to Edo.
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time to unfollow and close the X tab? there's almost nothing relevant to MegaTen left, and likely not much in the future, just Tsukuyomi, food and other random stuff, so...Soulless...
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>>576763667
Kaneko must be removed from the OP in the next thread. He ha been demoted.
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>>576705106
>what color are each heroine's panties?"
hardly a weird question considering kaneko's designs. he definitely knows.
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>>576733661
I played Fallout.
Then I looked for more post apocalyptic RPGs and ended up finding SMT IV:A.
Dropped that shit.
But then I decided to give it a go again because mythology is cool and landed on SMT IV. Never stopped being a fan ever since.
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>>576487649
Why was SMTV so hated? I'm 5 hours in and has been excellent so far
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>>576769532
Half of the SMT fanbase is Nocturne fags who shit on anything which is not Nocturne
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>>576772365
That's 3, right? Guess I'm playing it next
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i used to think this design looked more off-putting, but actually, even this design, the original, was always kinda suave looking. he only really looks off-putting in one of the official guide illustrations and the one novel illustration.
he was always meant to look suave probably.
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Sengoku era being suddenly flooded with a bunch of demons would make a kino smt-spinoff
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>>576778468
already going to be doing that for metaphor 2 desu
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Hmmm i think i'll start P2:EP just so i can complete both parts
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>>576754909
he only put 1 example debunking that chiaki was demifiend's childhood friend but in the same tweet he straight up vented that more often than not he wasn't involved with the further development of his own creation and that's due to his rough relationship with Okada (he didn't directly name him but it was obvious when earlier he's asked if he's still in touch with him and he said even back in 90s they're nothing more than boss-subordinate relationship so it's still the same boss)
also he stopped proofreading his own artbook (he had like 10 and he only got to proofread the first 3) with the reason he left atlus prior to the release of vol 4 but it's still kinda rude that atlus still allowed the publishing without his direct input.
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Somebody in china saved every kaneko tweet although translated to Chinese. It may not be much but every tweet has been saved
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>>576678198
I, uh, think I've been claimed.
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>>576769532
Are you playing the actual original? Or jut CoC?
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>>576786358
I swear the Chinese are bigger smt fans than the Japanese. And bigger Raidou fans too.
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bump
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>>576790127
the Japanese fans would just get offended at people asking questions and wanting to know more about megaten, more offended than Kaneko himself.
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>>576798975
Yeah but that's partly because of Japanese politeness culture. I really think the Chinese love smt is all. I've seen numerous smt accounts that are from China that post smt every day and in fact a large chunk of Raidou art I see are all Chinese. And considering how Atlus was afraid of how the Chinese would react to Raidou I think it's funny.
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>>576799124
>Japanese politeness culture
i know. they have that "reading the air" concept too. but i found it silly several jp accounts were getting more offended at questions than Kaneko himself, who also chose what he wanted to answer or leave hanging. Kaneko chose it so others should not whine about it. and now he's done answering questions of his own volition, which i am fine with.

to a certain extent i can understand getting annoyed at repetitive questions or similar, but mostly, i just found the offended jp accounts annoying. and i found some of them to be overreacting over Kaneko's posts that didn't align with what they wanted/controversial posts/posts about bad blood between him and others at Atlus.
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>>576799467
adding: it's like the jp accounts expected people to align with their cultural values even though we had people from all over the world wanting to ask Kaneko questions. if you go to Japan, sure, try to fit in, but if someone decides to answer questions from fans from all over the world, you have to try to understand that their culture might not align with yours either.
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>>576799467
I think many of them were shocked Atlus was (and probably still kind of is) so dysfunctional. You never air dirty laundry over your former company but Kaneko was doing it unfiltered.
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>>576799637
then that should be more angry with Kaneko for sharing rather than the ones asking the questions.
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>>576799697
But nooooo it's the fault of those ill mannered gaijin asking Kankeo about Atlus!!!
But like you said, Kaneko chose to answer them. He could have ignored it instead.
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>>576799819
yep
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>>576799124
They also make cute outfits for their Beanos.
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I guess the overlap with the canon of vengeance would be too strong, but I would like a SMT5 if... Where Lahmu successfully merges with Sahori and you play as their nahobino
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>>576801224
They could easily make money off of milking SMTV some more and it would fill the ages long gap between now and the next mainline game. There is still plenty of unanswered shit in the game's story and lore.
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i've come to appreciate if...'s story lens more after seeing it was meant to be a mystery. the story is mostly told through crumbs in all routes besides reiko's at the end. also, even with reiko's route, you're still meant to piece things together yourself. the devs didn't want to give a straight takeaway for the story because it's a mystery type story.
you figure it out on your own and construct your own interpretation.
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>>576799124
>And considering how Atlus was afraid of how the Chinese would react to Raidou I think it's funny.
They guessed the Korean reaction right at least, both the Chronicle DLC for Nocturne and Raidou remaster are still not available in Korea.
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>>576784024
does that even count? he wasn't the one in charge anyway
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>>576802249
also the raidou costumes for p5r was just removed worldwide when it was ported
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>>576802989
MC's thigh gap looks so awkward every time
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>>576803678
It's worse when his legs are together. The modelers wanted to make sure you know he has a micro dick.
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megaten mecha game when
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alice
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>>576733661
i'm new to this franchise, as soon as i finished P3-P4-P5 last year, i moved to this one because i look at P1 and P2's playstyle and i'd rather not play them (i eventually played P2, finished IS and just starting EP but my god it's still not a good game)
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kaneko is still answering questions somehow
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>>576818739
He said he won't answer questions about Atlus specifically.
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>>576818739
>>576818865
just enough to give /smtg/ life support
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>>576820358
lol
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>>576790127
This has been the case for the past several years because the japanese have become waaay too nofunallowed that they constantly complained about Kaneko not answering politely enough like >>576799467 says. The chinese are translating and archiving shit, while the japanese do nothing but stagnate hoping that the corporation feeds him shit to support it and stay complacent cattle forever.
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Adam and Steve saved SMT.
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>>576801224
I highly doubt a sidequel to SMT5 would star Sahori and Lahmu.
They're not really MC material.
The MC has to be a blank slate that gains a form as they experience the events of the game and interact with the characters as a part of the story.
Sahori has defined personality traits, and so does Lahmu.
I reckon they would just pull another 4A where they would make a new character that for X or Y reason wasn't present in the original game and your choice (an equivalent to accepting Dagda's deal to revive Nanashi) allows their inclusion.
I'd rather they just move on already though.
Sahori was wasted potential, they had a chance to set things right and they didn't. They clearly don't care enough about her because they did do stuff with Yakumo.
It's time to focus on a new spinoff, a 2-in-1 4/4A remaster or just SMT6 desu.
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>>576831070
You wouldn't need to do a side story playing as someone else. You could just add another side story while playing as the Nahobino. There are still other places he can go and more story to dig into. And it could just be dlc added onto the base game instead of being sold separately. The only other thing I could see working is playing as Yakumo. I don't think anyone would care that he's not silent.
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>>576789964
CoV I think, cause I took Yoko's (i'd asume) hand.
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>>576831070
>The MC has to be a blank slate
Why though?
If anything I'd be down for a spinoff game with a few characters with defined character for each of Law/Neutral/Chaos which aren't full games worth if we're gonna do sidequels.
Never gonna happen though.
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>>576834165
No one hated VV. We were bitching about the original release.
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So if you keep the same demon without fusing forever, does it keep giving you items or gaining stats? Does it matter whether they're in the active party / casting skills for haunt conversations to trigger?
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>>576837689
Is this a Metal Gear Rising situation?
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i got burned out from smt for now :/ gomen
but i still doki doki alice in many ways
that wizard simulator is too addicting
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>>576837784
in V i think somewhat yeah? you'll get plenty of moment levelling up your stock demons by absorbing demon statues. as long as they keep levelling up they either give you their essence, some random stat boost, or some other things.
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Kaneko went to gay clubs, took drugs, and is probably bi.
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>>576838567
for his age he does look like someone who's never burdened by marriage and children
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>>576838567
Based?
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>i stopped answering questions about my atlus past but i'll keep answering questions about how i was such a degenerate youth
thank you mr kaneko
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>>576838650
He could still have kid and a wife if he fucked dudes in the past but he doesn't seem like the type that would settle down.
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Yesss
Bitch stole all my MP
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>>576839470
he mentioned breaking up with a girlfriend long ago because he was too free spirited or something for it to work and wanted to pursue his hobbies or something.
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>>576841857
gaaaaaay
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>>576790127
>>576827803
>chinese
i kinda wonder if it's partially due to their pirating subculture. they pirate a lot of shit their because their overly sterile laws create a breeding ground for people wanting to pirate shit. likewise, they might try to do "rude" shit for similar reasons.

>>576842482
and also because he realized he wasn't truly in love with her.
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>>576842735
You're equating archiving posts on SNS to piracy?
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>>576842735
It's not really overly sterile, that's like saying the US is overly sterile. People pirate if it's accessible. It's not like shit is necessarily always cheap in China even if things are cheaper there than other places also. It's more so that China looks the other way in regards to piracy. Like how there is a country wide VPN but there are mini marts on every street corner selling sim cards to bypass the VPN no matter where you look.
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>>576842884
i'm equating their not-give-a-fuck attitude towards piracy to doing other things that might be considered rude. they're probably not going to care about others' wishes when it comes archiving infirmormation about various games, movies, etc.
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>>576837689
there were many posts saying yoko's ending was half-assed though.
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>>576842884
No, he's right. I'm the anon who posted about Kaneko's posts being archived in chinese in weibo since a chinese friend told me about it after telling them about kaneko nuking everything. They told me, quoting,
>the current adult generation in China grew up in an environment of piracy—everyone knows just how precious information and resources are... So people naturally have a pretty strong mindset when it comes to archiving and preserving information.
Chinese people are very focused on making resources available to everyone, not just that, but also bothering to look into code of games to create mods or fixes. And most of the time, if a pirated version of a software exists, it likely comes from China or russia, which also has a similar piracy culture.
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>>576833186
Sure, but Anon suggested an "If..." entry with Sahori as the MC.
I interpreted that as a separate game on the vein of "If..." with Sahori as the MC and not as "a DLC for VV where you still play as the Susano-o Nahobino to explore unsolved plot points from SMT5 or whatever".
That being said, I wouldn't mind one such DLC.
Is the Switch 2 VV port + DLC with new content for all platforms dream dead?
It's only been 1 year since the Switch 2 came out.
Maybe it can still happen.

>>576837530
>>The MC has to be a blank slate
>Why though?
Because the MC of these games are vehicles for the Player to insert themselves into the games' worlds. That's how they're designed at first more often than not.
And honestly? That's probably a good thing.
If you played SH2 you know how bad the opposite can go for ATLUS.
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>>576839496
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this proposed if... entry sounds more like a hazama hen type scenario.
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>>576848192
they sound based in this regard
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Wow, eiseth hits hard, and yet king frost was much more of a problem for some reason
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>>576844547
That's very debatable. And no one was thinking just that ending ruined the whole game. People thought VV was good but not flawless.
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>>576862757
in the context of "no one hated vv" it is relevant because some people were at least let down by yoko's ending.
i won't argue that the quality is subjective though.
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>>576862757
VV is mostly gameplay for me, the story still didn't gel together
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>>576489625
>does it get any better storywise?
Lets put it this way: If it doesnt get better to you, it lets you act out that disappointment in game through one of the routes
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>>576489625
4A has the best moment in the series.
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BEHOLD MY KINOS
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>>576733661
i played undertale as a teenager like 15 years ago and watched a video that mentioned SMT as the origins for demon negotiation, went out and played SMT IV and it was the single most fun i had playing a video game ever so just ended up playing most of the catalogue since.
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>>576883818
>i played undertale as a teenager like 15 years ago
it's 11 years old
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COMPRHEEHEND THIS!
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Why did people bitch so much about levels mattering so much in the damage formula of smt5.
I'm playing persona 3 ps2 and holy shit level is like the most important stat by a mile, it kinda ruins all the stats. Lv 20 protag 40 mag persona is so much weaker than level 25 protag 20 mag.
It's far worse in this game and nobody seemed to care
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>>576851529
Ringo was best part of SH2 and i hope she returns
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i miss playing nocturne but at the same time i don't feel like playing it again after getting TDE, i still maintain it's the best SMT purely from the gameplay though, no smirk bullshit like 4 and also no rocket science team building like 5
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Been thinking about giving Strange Journey a shot, is Redux fine or should I stick to the OG instead?
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>>576909595
Stick to the original, the remake forces a new, worse storyline down your throat and actively throws temper tantrums at you for trying to see the original story
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>>576908025
>rocket science team building like 5
What?
Hit the weakness, don't get hit by the weakness
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>>576910823
>strategize
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>>576910823
>omagatoki
>innate skills
>essence
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Who the hell came up with the idea of hunting these guys down? It takes up a huge chunk of the playtime in SMT V
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>>576911159
Completely unnecessary for everything that isn't superbosses.
>>576911465
Only omagatoki and not having blatant weaknesses are core mechanics and neither take any skill, the game gifts you all the essences necessary for playing through the game.
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>>576912392
inspired by breath of the wild, obvs
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>>576912392
It's usually a way to force exploration and top of being filler that take a lot of time for the player to do, which is why these kind of quests are so common nowadays.
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>>576912392
You are not really supposed to get them all
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Soul Hackers or Devil Survivor which one should I play first
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>>576922445
those are two pretty different games, DeSu is on the harder side so if you immediately want some challenge then you should try that first
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>>576924889
personally i'm just not a fan of tactical rpg, i tried fire emblem awakening and it's ehhh
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>>576925623
Then do Soul Hackers first. But DeSu is a great game, so consider giving it a shot later on.
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>>576925623
You played the worst fire emblem
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>>576926873
That's not 3H.
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>>576919601
They sell you a map in every area so you can get them all thoughever
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>>576912392
open world games have to have collectibles spread across the map
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>>576927434
And it takes you no time at all to grab them if you do get them since you're gonna explore the map anyway for quests and chests.

>>576912392
Only if you're a completitionist masochist, in which case full compendium and godborn secret bosses will take you waaay longer
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>>576927518
Oh yeah? Who decided this?
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>>576929098
the open world games council, google it
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>>576929320
What is the cure to such disorders?
Destruction.
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>>576844547
It wasn't the ending, the complaints were more about the bosses. Reusing Tiamat and then "standard demon Mastema".

I really don't get why they didn't just make a Tao boss battle and then Goko (Amitabha). Are they considering Buddhism too sacred now?
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>>576932650
i meant the reused bosses as well because those bosses are near the end.
i was being broad with "ending". and i thought i remembered people being let down by the ending cutscenes as well.
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Asahi rape
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I don't like megido ark.
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>>576936867
The skill or the weapon?
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>>576936867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_uCWFWBCrI
Did you say something, i didn't hear over all the ADVERSARY
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>>576786639
Another full moon survived.
I see the dev team's old hypnofetish from the dungeon crawler era came back, but the shadows didn't count on my having a large enough brain to resist their harlot temptations and big smarty words.
The actual fights in question were total pushovers owing to my autistic obsession with grinding out fusion requests, and it didn't help that in both fights Akihiko decided to take the shadows to the House of a Thousand Crits.
After making it out of the love hotel Junpei regresses to sperging out about how he wants to be the leader which I thought we quashed the first time he fucked up. We're also being spied on by Jesus, a Goth, and a guy who I assume is Great Value Calculator.
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BEHOLD MY SEMENS
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PERRRRRSONAAAA
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Can same one post the “I killed my friend his reason was stupid meme” please
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>>576953926
We don't do zat in /smtg/
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>>576948936
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Seeing all the concept art demon scans from tsukuyomi on Twitter is making me sad, dammit kaneko if you keep your experimental autism in check things would've gone so much smoother.
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shin
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Everytime I play Strange Journey it makes me wanna try EO3 again and everytime I get my ass kicked hard enough to remember why I havent beaten it yet
This time though! For sure! Hopefully!
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can Vkun be renamed during the game?
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>>576962979
Nope.
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>>576962979
Haven't played VV yet but most SMT allow you to rename the MC in a NG+.
It's the only time where you can do it however, you'll have to do NG++ if you want to rename him again.
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シェン・メグーミテンセイ
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when are we getting another based game for car fuckers? the anti-car atlus era is getting kinda old...
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>>576967103
Yoko was right about cars all along.
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next game's alignments will be car fucker and anti-car fucker
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>>576943614
Had my first fusion accident in this game, and for the first time in the series it was actually total dildos instead of being a free upgrade.
>Use three trash personas to make level 31 Eligor for Tower coverage and chatting with the based monk
>Get level 22 Legion instead.
>On top of that I gambled and lost when Ice Boost mutated into Garula
fug.
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/smtg/
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Is Casshern Sins worth watching? I'm around episode 20ish in the original and it's too MOTW without any actual plot happening for me...
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does Vkun looking like the
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
meme ever come up during the game?
can't decide between normal name and most commonly girl's name
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>>576977617
Some demons comment on it during negotiations iirc
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>>576977617
Demons bring it up a lot. In negotiations, the haunt, and Alice's quest even.
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>>576977617
His canon name is Kei Amemura. Kei can be both a girl or boy's name. It's more commonly a girl's name though.
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>>576978603
Bravo Kojima
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>>576909595
>>576910037
The other anon is technically correct, but I feel it's overblown. Outside of like 1-2 extra boss battles and a scene here and there, the new storyline in redux is optional. You can play the game the same way as the original and get the original endings if you explicitly reject whatever the remake girl wants you to do.

If you do want to do the redux endings though, you have to go through a separate series of dungeons and a few other minor things, but it's optional. The main thing that makes redux suck to me is the new artstyle and presentation of the game. I'd still play it over the original due to the gameplay and 3d visual boosts. It's kind of like playing Etrian Odyssey 2 and then playing Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold with the new story, which some people didn't like, but the 3d visuals were better and it had better gameplay.
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I think Redux is weird to me because the add-on content is one of the WORST implemented add-on that Atlus has ever made but it's not really "offensive". Like it's so fucking weird. Quality wise, it's terrible but you can just roll your eyes and go through it. I think what really helps is that Alex is a fucking edgelord while Marie is an annoying tsundere cunt.
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Finished SMT4 yesterday with a magic Flynn. Game was pretty easy outside of early stages. Now starting SMT4 Apocalypse on War (hard). Have no idea how difficult it's going to be or how balanced this game is. I heard that's it's a lot better balanced than 4 and also that phys/gun got better for mc this time around.
On one hand I want to go magic again because it's versatile and because I'm unfamiliar with the new game, so it's comfortable.
On the other hand I want something new and people keep talking that pure phys is viable. I just don't understand how. Like do you just pray for crits all the time and spam elemental items early game lol? What about enemies that res or null+ phys? It sounds like going phys will be fucking miserable.
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>>576980908
it's almost like there's something called pierce.
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>>576981567
How do you get it? A new support like let's say charge?
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>>576979584
I'm other anon, while sure I dont think the game is constantly doing it, it does it often enough and at enough key moments that I cannot see it any way that isnt "How DARE you not engage with the new content?" Literally taking the role of final boss just to get mad at you for wanting to see how the original story went, especially if its your first time playing the game at all, really sours a lot of the experience at the worst moment.
If you're doing a replay Im sure it matters a lot less, but anyone playing blind should do one of the unaltered, original DS routes first before seeing what Redux does with them just to avoid having the first experience be marked by Alex's existence
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>>576976510
I remember enjoying it on Toonami, but I was a kid at the time. Maybe I'll go rewatch it.
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>>576976510
it was an oppressive watch i didn't enjoy much
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tensei
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>>576996301
shin
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>here's odin
>lucifer
>kali
>any number of major mythological figures
>AND FUCKING DWARF
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Koropokkuru is my favorite midget old man demon
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>>577006354
i kinda hate SJ purely because you can just vibe your way through bosses until it hits a certain point where you really have to prepare the party well, have luster candy, debilitate, mediarahan, cramming in as much as strongest elemental skill you can have (or riot gun lel) in just 3 starting demons beside you. it's pretty much also game over if your protag dies and your demons don't have something like healing knowhow or samarecarm to revive you.
but sadly because the lack of manual skill inheritance it's hard getting all of those except if you go through a very specific demon fusion chain so your demons can end up with those skills.
fucking source being only dropped once as soon as you fully analyse that particular demon with a very small chance it drops again if your demon gets levelled up again is also dumb. someone did say you can make password for a bunch of mitamas with those particular skills but idk if i ever return to the game again, i should be about 80% into the game but the last 20% is just pain.
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>>577007707
It's a painful game in general.
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Is there any point to this bullet hell shooter mini game in DDS2 beyond making me want to kill myself
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>>577013403
i dont even know it existed lmao. do you know what you're getting from that minigame
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>>577013643
Apparently you get 2 +5 gems for the rings if you beat the stupid bitch's high score. I got to 550k but the thing is aids to control and you can't get any score at all unless you're facefucking every enemy to get the hunt multiplier which becomes problematic when 80% of the screen turns into a damage box past stage 1
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>Toilet next to the bed
wtf
haven't these hunters heard of not shitting where you sleep?
Also this Hallelujah guy is totally Pokemon coded with how he nicknames his demons. What a loser. Demons are tools
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>>576962979
You can do that on PC:
Run the game in a language using a different alphabet and it'll say "Error, can't proceed with name as set, please rename him".
Rename him whatever, revert back to English, and rename him again.
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>>576977617
Nobody even questions why you aren't using a demon summoning program
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>>577015123
>Demons are tools
SMT4A and 5 especially make a compelling case for them as friends. Fionn, Amenozako, Nuwa and Aogami are nothing but good to you and all people.
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devil survivor 3 now with more durarara characters
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>>577024086
I'd even say that it's also the case with Pascal/Cerberus in SMT1 and Pixie in SMT3.
Yeah, you can technically fuse them away, but they are remembered as friends of their respective MC in the fanbase and not just any random demon.
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>>577025332
Pixie is fine to fuse since she comes back. I usually do some cheeky thing and only fuse her in "coomer type" demons so that it feels like she's evolving just to come back to herself by the end, quite like angels in SMT4
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Mudoon yourself
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>>577030006
i can't, i repel it :/
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>>577024086
Demons are onaholes
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I am tired of having previous protagonists be superbosses, can we not do that in the next game please
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>>577032774
You will fight doomguy and you will be happy
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we should fight charlie instead!
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>>577032774
next game will have a duo boss fight with nahobino and demifiend
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>>577017703
which sid megumi tennis is this
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>>577032774
Next game you will be gaslighted into thinking YHVH is the superboss but then you get to fight God and discover the God of that world to be Massacre Nanashi
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>>577034907
Lol, that guy is erased. It will be God Bino
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>>577036534
I have Nahobino fatigue
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>>577033529
Charlie knows that the priority in the demon apocalypse is protecting his nuts.
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>>577032774
>next game
>>577034907
>Next game
Not gonna happen.
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>>577041151
Avatar Fag
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>>576968527
>>Use three trash personas to make level 31 Eligor for Tower coverage and chatting with the based monk
Eligor learns Cool Breeze which is great to recharge your SP essentially for free btw.
I relied on that religiously because stacking the 3 Invigorates and then watching that shitty animation every single time I started a fight was soul destroying.
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my Kinos are a bit different
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Most cringe for me
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charlie's route is one of the most unintentionally funny things in megaten
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>>577032774
you will get a boss rush gauntlet of all previous protagonists and you will be happy
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>>577056747
i'll believe it when i see it
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All this time after their quest in VV ended in marriage, this is the first time I think anyone has drawn art of them together.
It's cute.
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>>577061949
What's happening on the right? She seems to be nursing him through some sickness but why is she sweating?
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8k-kun post some Silky nipples
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>>577032774
I'm fine with it if they become recruitable characters again like Demifiend in VV. Just don't make them one time guests for DLC or just super bosses.
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>pre-patched english PS1 version of SMT II has been uploaded
shiggy diggy.
Guess I'll be playing I and II before the new fire emblem game comes out then.
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>>577064035
What's funny is that this is something Aogami would probably say.
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>>577071998
Why PS1 and not GBA? GBA looks better
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Favorite otomagaki skill?
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>>577079816
The only one I use is Critical or Luck if I'm farming
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>>577080420
Luck + riberama with reinforcement multipliers was great QoL.
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>>577079816
Dance + Pandemonic Feast.
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Raidou Remastered is 45% off on steam folks, i think i'll finally get it
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>>577089665
I played the soulful original so I won't Buydou. The EOHD bundle for $26 is kind of tempting though.
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>>577090350
How do you stomach the shitty combat?
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>>577091070
by repeatedly chanting the word "soul" throughout the entire game
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>>576937862
Even with how much the team tried to make it work in 3d he still looks bad
No wonder he's so mad
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>>577071998
The fuck? Where?
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anyone has a working link for the 3rd DDS novel in english?
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>>577061949
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>>577100752
Unfair drawing, he worked hard and she is a materialistic bitch, they do deserve each other.
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>>577097206
https://github.com/Roman215/smt2-psx-translation/releases/tag/v0.2.0

it's part AI shit tho but he allows you to change the script to your liking if you know how to do so. whateves
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alright i'm delaying my self-retirement from gaming, i have P2:EP, this one, and Raidou 2 and maybbeeee back finishing 4A but after that i'll be retired again (heh)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBvlEgbEqgI
seeing this video, it's kinda sad the amount of efforts put into making your demons as actual companions whenever you are but at the same time it's being put in the ugliest-looking SMT game of all time not named Ronde.
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>>577104779
Loki'd be into it, that slut.
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>>577107728
also i do wonder what's the purpose of having 1 one of your demons following you on the street
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>>577107863
Marvel Loki =/= SMT Loki.
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>>577107997
>turns himself into a mare to get fucked by a stallion
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>>577108425
Not incest!!!
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and i'm in, will wait till weekend to do some stuff with it
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what do we think?? will you finally try the game?
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>>577118226
So, english patch when?
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I thought "slime all enemies" was just a meme or bad TL, but nah, this item really does slime enemies
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>>577122063
buying items like this that can't be used for bosses seem like pointless
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>>577107885
makes sense in the context of an MMO where everyone shows off their gear and summoned demon, which IMAGINE ended up keeping even if it wasn't built off of NINE in the end
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Does VV not have active negotiation skills? Sure they're not terribly core but the only ones I've seen are innates for defusing (pixie) and the omagatoki version (swish swoosh). Are there not bullying for cash or begging for items or other skills?
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>>577136273
They are miracles in 5
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>>577118226
Vexx status?
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>>577145683
uploading scans. why do you care so much?
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>>577147549
There must always be a "Vexx status" poster.
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kaneko's questioning being erased means this series will go back into obscurity for a while longer
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is it wrong i want to get a smart glasses COMP as a daily driver so I can translate text without much of a hastle?
>>577118226
translation when
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>>577118226
sure
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>>577097206
if you want the pre-patched version:
https://cdromance.org/psx-iso/shin-megami-tensei-ii-english/
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Frolic
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>>577157565
dies from lack of SMT news
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Post demons
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>>577171510
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Agrat gaming
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>>577173459
holy based
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>>577173459
Is that P4R?
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Hazama gaming
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>>577175501
Grok is this real?
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>>577175501
damn, he looks so soulless... clothing looks weird too, but i commend the mod idea i guess.
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>>577175501
wait...
>alignment — chaos
the modder is a FRAUD
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>>577175501
sloppa model gaming
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>>577175423
Either from the latest P4R trailer that just dropped or it's a mod for P3R.
I don't care about persona so I can't tell which one it is.
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>>577190913
it's from this https://gamebanana.com/mods/684022 made by the same guy who did that >>577175501
we still don't know what doimons are in p4r other than inanna
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hoy dubstep remix
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hoy cinematic universe
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>>577171510
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i forgot how bad some of the dialogue was in the if... manga. nobu literally says bakemono/monster 2 times in a row when fighting the preta.
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>>577217616
I'm pretty sure fighting a random demon you'd probably be more like FUCK FUCK FUCK SHIT SHIT SHIT
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>>577219514
yeah, pretty much.
also, the worst thing for me is how rushed and crammed the story is, and hazama's flashback placement and death dialogue is really bad too. nobu stabs him after a short and anticlimactic confrontation, then hazama laments over dying alone and how he can't stand being alone anymore, all while nobu looks sad and there's a clip of young hazama in a flashback saying he's alone in this world, always alone.
then at the end end, nobu looks confident and happy as he walks out the school.
it's not a very good setup for how he's supposed to be traumatized by this shit in kahn.
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tonally, it's just all over the place. it's very bad and too simplistic in its presentation of hazama being a detestable but sympathetic villain. they feel bad for him but they also hate his guts and need to kill him. so they have to be sure to emote sadly over his sad backstory, and after killing him. his life was so sad after all... they knew him for maybe a few hours. and he was trying to kill them the whole time.

the game doesn't try to make all the characters sympathize with him. only reiko, who has all the reason in the world to do so. the game handled this aspect well.
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>>577222520
isnt the manga like 4 chapters only
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>>577222772
yes. it really needed more time though. 4 chapters is too short for even a short game like if...
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the only saving grace is the art, which tends to be good. but even then, there are some weird artistic choices, and hazama is drawn inconsistently.
i like this yumi panel though. i forgot about it.
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but why would you draw a double spread like this? it's like only half is meant to be viewed at once, but then why use a double spread? it's the weirdest artistic choice in the whole manga imo, but that aside, the art is generally good.
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also, it's bizarre even seeing hazama admit aloud that he hates being alone when the entire point of his character in the game was trying to be something he's not. he doesn't admit to having human weakness in the game and only shows it in reiko's route.
the manga version feels like an abridged version with a surface level understanding of the character. yeah, yeah, only 4 chapters. i get it. but he still feels ooc.
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>>577225787
Sounds like the manga is a 4 chapter long character assassination.
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>>577227230
what's also messed up in the manga: yumi was in hazama's class and knew about the bullying. she was shown to feel bad for him, but then... she did nothing about it anyway...?

in the game, no one mentions anything about him being bullied. it's only shown through his memories (sorta. it's more like ostracization here) in reiko's route. only his classmates would've known about it and yumi wasn't one of his classmates. it's a thing no one either knew about (no one outside his class knew), cared about (his classmates didn't care), or took seriously (kayama didn't take him seriously), until reiko came to save him.

yumi in the manga is shown to know about it, care about it, and then do nothing. it's bizarre.
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>>577229726
>Hazama being raped is canon
LMAO
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>>577232298
where is he being raped?
they're making fun of his hairy stomach(?)
sph-ing him? something like that. i think it might just really be a weird stomach though. kahn shows him naked and his stomach is still drawn weirdly. i used to think they were sph-ing him for the longest time too...
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>>576968527
Out of almost nowhere the plot decided to hand me a hefty serving of lore and provided answers I wasn't expecting to get until at least a few more major missions. Tensions are rising, everyone's going through some extreme shit, and the teamwork that makes the dream work seems to be fraying at the edges. Yukari's got beef with both Mitsuru and Akihiko, Akihiko's got some kind of baggage with a former squad member, Junpei's got one sided beef with me, and Fuuka has traditional asian parents who want her to become a rich lawyer doctor by the age of 18. Voice acting has also been getting progressively better as the game goes on and the entire sequence felt like a season finale. holy shit, poor Yukari. Not only is she cleaning up after what killed her father, she's got to read what are presumably his notes that were left behind in Tartarus whenever we make progress. And on top of that her mother became at best a deadbeat and at worst she An Hero'd.
I think the only serious question I have now is based on the only bit of story I knew preemptively. Still can't see why Ikutski betrays us yet, he's supremely likeable and I haven't seen any real hints outside of his extreme fascination with shadows which I mean let's be fair if you were studying wild shit like this you'd be excited too.
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>>577233658
>they're making fun of his hairy stomach
Yeah I'm sure that's why a bunch of guys stripped him and were all looking at his dick.
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>>577235653
they all want to suck him off
many such cases
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>>577235653
why is the shadow so big? why is he covering his entire stimach in the next panel and not just his crotch area?

>>577236371
that would be very realistic actually...
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>>577236468
Censoring his giant penis.
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>>577236709
hazama...
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why would it be necessary to put a big shadow over his stomach here? it isn't for the sake of being dramatic in covering his crotch.
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>>577237474
Hazama looks like Akira without being fused to a demon, kek.
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>>577237474
Blood in manga looks so fucking raw
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>>577238136
he goes through a few different designs.
i think it might have been implied it's because he reincarnated iirc. and there was something wrong with his body in that scene. and he's connected to some other ancient being in kahn. there are other parts of it too and they rejoin together.
but also, at least partially, it's just the mangaka being inconsistent with his design for hazama. even reiko's photograph with him looks different from the design(s) from the if... manga, which served as the setup for kahn.
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It's nice that SMT4 lets me fuse whenever I want instead of having to going somewhere.
Also interesting is the app to let you fuse in battle, even. Seems useless, but is there some wacky strat or exploit that can come from that?
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>>577248149
>Also interesting is the app to let you fuse in battle, even. Seems useless, but is there some wacky strat or exploit that can come from that?
It's the only way to transfer unique skills but it's not really good because the skills are picked at random.
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Yeah …
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/smtg/ plays smt but randomized
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>>577257751
we each play a random game? or we play a specifc game with a randomizer?
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the coolest thing about the if... manga and kahn, is that you get to see the characters in ronde's artstyle.
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Concert watch party.
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Live.
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>>577267705
Basically my dream persona game would be a persona game with the vibe of Kahn and Tokyo Revelations, persona 6 may be promising
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>>577290185
it would be more smt then. i personally think p1 had the best vibe for persona. it gets the occult feeling and surrealism just right.
or maybe if...
i would love another game like if... whether it be smt or a persona side game or something.
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the mangaka really liked beheadings. several characters in the if... manga get beheaded, and kahn has a lot of that too.
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>>577296265
>all you have to draw is the head
>it's brutal and hardcore without drawing a lot of complex bodily gore
It's not hard to see why.
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>>577296802
That's like the easiest kill shot to draw though. Copy and paste the head in another location.
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>>577297147
i just disagree on the point of it being easier/less complex than other gore shots.
i don't think they're less complex than picrel.
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kahn had some... dialogue.
>that guy's energy is entering me.
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>>577267085
the latter obviously, what would even be the point in the former
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>>577301023
what randomizer would we play?
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>>577300297
hot
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Do I get rid of Resist Force or Null Light
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>>577318574
Depend on the rest of your team and your goal.
Do you want to make her tanky in most situations or fuck over enemy press turn?
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>>577303614
idk, which games even have randomizers?
i wasn't exactly thinking much when posting that
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smtg plays smt if... randomizer
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no kaneko life support...
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It’s like a curse and a blessing that Atlus made so many re-releases for the 3DS.
It’s a blessing that it exists and a curse that it’s on the 3DS.
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>>577338467
could be worse could be on xbox
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wait for tomorrow i'll continue my P2EP exploit



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