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>>576558883me when fave
Chips ahoy, landfaggots!Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
I can't wait for her singular other minute long scene
Remember to bet on your flowers!
JANIGGER
>>576558834Flowery’s favourite btw
No more scrimblos? No more japes? I guess that means 5 is going to remain the best Chapter.
>But one thing will be clarified, whether you’re ready or not.Knight Identity or what actually happened to Dess?
So if Ch 6 is gonna be short what's it gonna contain?
>Entire newsletter of Toby seething over people calling Chapter 5 fillerEmbarrassing.
>>576558989probably a flashback
i love my titan/gaster agent/embodiment of darkness/mysterious sissy wife
ralsei butt
This is an image of Berdly from Deltarune.
>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER>THAN HE WHO DENIES>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?">YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?">"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?">ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
Your last warning. If you spent years thinking about Deltarune theories and schizoposting about these connections, thinking that everything is related you're going to regret it.
sex with tenna
Chapter 5 was fucking dogshit and I don't care if Toby said everyone liked it in the newsletter, nothing can possibly change my mind on it until Chapter 6 comes out, which I am eagerly awaiting because I'm a fucking masochistI haven't read the thread's responses to it yet, I just felt like having a little melty
I got to see beta scribbles of master Flowery, I'm so happy!
>>576558834Hooman!
>>576558982>No more scrimblos? No more japes? I guess that meansTHAT WE'RE NEVER FUCKING SEEING THIS FUCKER, FUCK
post yfw we are fighting the knight and the knight is (you) baby is you motif included
>the arg and the sword route aren't about the weird route actually! >they're about a secret third route!>yep one where you get the twisted sword after doing all these cartwheels and jumping through hoops!Pffft no no noooooo
>>576559135how can I kill someone that's not real anon?
KriselleKnight is the 100% vibes and 0% logic theory
>>576559129>Chapter 5 was fucking dogshitDo you hate it because there was no dess or knight lore on it or do you hate it because of the flowers ?
>>5765589892 minute cutscene of Kris walking home alone and going to bedthat will be the entire chapter you still have to wait a year for chapter 7
Why did Toby name the main character “Frisk”?Anyway, get friskrolled.
>"Sometimes you don't have all the information.">WAOW! He must be validating my beliefs that Dess can't be the Knight because we don't know what her motivation would be!
>>576559003>Entire newsletter of Toby seething over people calling Chapter 5 filler
>>576559213what does this have to do with that
>>576559271My keks would be large
* When the sun comes up again...* I want tomorrow to be the same as yesterday.* And the next day* To be just the same as that.* That in the end* We can always go back to the way things were before.*An ending, huh...*...If I could choose… *I guess...*I wouldn't have an ending!*It's just better ifstuff just...*goes on forever, right?* The end of the story... we have to avoid it. We have to.* I want to believe... it can change!* That there isn't just one ending!* If we can manage to do that...* I believe this tale may have a happy ending.* Otherwise, I fear that...* ... you may not... find the result favorable.Genuine question, how can you read all of the above dialogue and still not figure out what Toby saying "there's only one ending" means? Is it a media literacy test?
>>576559251gaster didn't show up
>>576559314do not post my mothers vagina
So, since Chapter 1 suddenly appeared in /chapter5/...>chapter 6 releases>newsletter a bit later>1 and 2 on /chapter5/ both grow by a bitWhat would you do in this situation?
* It's a statue of a strong looking human.
>Another thing we had to keep in mind was that this could be somebody’s first experience playing a platforming game. (A terrifying thought, but technically possible.)lol me
the mage left the party.
>>576559354cry
>>576558983not really into furry shit but hypno tf is always appreciated
>>576559331He gave up on his original ending
>>576559354It didn't suddenly appear, it's always been there. Check the wayback machine.
>>576559340damn you are gonna despise chapter 6 and 7 then
>>576559106This is basically what we've always been sayingThat many fans built up an expectation of what Deltarune will be like in their heads and it's actually far removed from what Toby intended. He's just stating the obvious.
>>576558932carol and her 10 minutes of screentime...
>>576559357Wow! The Orange fibers are so soft and snug, I think I might just make this my nest!
>>576559427Oh.Why was it there in the first place, anyway?
>>576559450godrick the golden chapter 7 trust me dude
>>576559340are you sure about that?
>>576558617I have all their pictures downloaded, I would share them in a zip file for you if they don't mind me doing that...
If you hate Sans you are mentally ill.If you hate tenna then go ahead.
the execution of all the lingering plotlines in deltarune are gonna suck, arent they? i'd bet all my money on the rest of it turning out to suck ass
>>576559331Sorry kiddo, there's things more important than the ending
>>576559331>I want tomorrow to be the same as yesterday.>We can always go back to the way things were before.>I wouldn't have an ending!>Stuff just goes on forever, right?So it's 100% confirmed that Normal Route ending is Susie creating a time loop, right?
>>576559439why not? It's not like he's actually attracted to susie or noelle, or like hometown is that heteronormative that he'd just assume he was straight for no reason
>>576559135Chara is a shit character
>Chapter 6 is going to be a 3 hour long chapter addressing exactly one plot point and then we'll have to wait another whole year for the remaining 90% of the storyThis is going to be the most miserable waiting cycle ever
>>576559130>I'm so happy!Me too! And there will be a surge of fanart of the concept designs.
>576559135>576559401The /v/tards are here, huh?
>>576559553Then why are you here
Toby saying not to get overconfident about our fuzzy critter theories is 100% about dessknight right? Dessknight's chokehold over the entire community chapter 3-4 era was unparalleled, it only fell off because of that one SpookyDood video and KriselleKnight post chapter 5
>>576558984Probably the final tragedy, that's the only thing that would warrant the "whether you're ready or not" phrasing
>>576559427That's kinda weird
>>576559549>If you hate tenna then go aheadOh, thanks, don't mind if I do.
>>576559106Logically Tobert's statement has to be about FRIEND, ERAM, or Gaster. Everything else is either too niche to have been noticed, or about the Knight which is intentionally a mystery.
i am about to eat spaghetti ask me anything
rate my faves>rudinn>catii>orange>mettaton>shyren>maddie>napstablook>rory nite>undyne>hathy
>>576559457I would be pleasantly surprised by ten whole minutes
>>576559106>speculative artOh god... He's 100% talking about Dess knighters.
>>576559213that's just saying 7b will be big though
>>576559553>we'll finally get a payoff but with only two chaptershuh
>>576559606i wanna know if i'll be proven right or hopefully proven wrong
>>576559213jesus christ its like twice the height of the chapter 2 number on the website. we are so screwed
>>576559357IT'S A MOUSE!!!!!!!
Toby has given his blessing for any thought about deltarune I've come up with in my head. Looks like my ICE-E is December's real dad theory is based
>>576559506I remember the “I am the lord of all that is golden” lime being in a trailer causing fans to believe he had some sort of power over gold like magneto but specifically for gold, only for the game to come out and none of that to be even close to being realanyway this is how I see gaster theorists
>>576559286nta but it's funny because I'd legitimately consider Sans' (and Undyne the Undying's by extension) fight a weirdhaha contradiction of the Genocide Route's messaging. If it's supposed to be a slog where you put yourself through absolute tedium just to see what would happen solely because you're playing a video game that exists to entertain YOU, why are two of the ONLY remotely challenging (and funnest) fights in the game locked behind it? It feels like a gameplay reward for doing the "this gameplay is supposed to fucking suck to make you question why you're even bothering" story branch.
>>576559597Yeah just give them another 3 to 4 days for it to air out again. This is probably the last thing until 6 at least
>>576559675Not going to assume this is the case, but I would legitimately be overjoyed.
>>576559549tenna lost for me after he started acting "evil" towards the end, it would be cool if he just kept acting naive and doing his thing
>>576559671those who ask nothing shall receive mountains in return. amen.
>>576559213The secret third route will be in the secret 8th chapter
A very, very big and beautiful boy
>Chapter 6 is a shorter, straightforward chapter that focuses on one aspect of the story.
>>576559671how would you feel about a carol boss fight? mite b cool
Anyone else enjoy the corn?
>>576559685>how is toby going to pay off these mysteries? he only has two undertale-worths of game to do it!
>Toby says chapter 5 was well recievedSo why did you guys spend a month saying everyone hated it
>>576559842I am... cornless.
The Knight is an unusually fat baby. It’s going to be a difficult fight, the baby will throw everything he’s got at you: his binky, his rattle…..please, don’t ragequit! You wouldn’t want to look like a baby, haha!
>What's a theory that got majorly popular with Chapter 5...>One that involves a single character and a lot of "inferring from text" that isn't actually saying anything...>One that's so big and aggressively pushed, it's actually hurt discussion about the character in total if it isn't about specifically that one thing...>And this part of the fandom forces it onto everyone else, pissing their pants if someone doesn't agree...>I KNOW! IT'S DESSKNIGHT!Dude come on.
ralsei hips and thighs
>>576559874why did 3 schizoids from /v/ who spammed the thread like it was their job say everyone hated it*
>>576559392Surprise 8th chapter is the kind of twist I could see Toby doing especially as there are so many interesting meta ways he could write it into the story.
Flower is on back of body
>>576559842>corn >zoomerspeak for porntoby enjoys the porn and wants you to draw more. get to work, drawfriends!
>>576559874>So why did you guys spend a month saying everyone hated itPeople wanted more lore contentthat why everyone this chapter.
Omg ralsei, don't say that
Tomato has less of his personality be I PLAYED MOTHER 3!!!!!! than Toby, jesus.
>>576559918i wish we got the option to kiss him already
>>576559537hanging myself, this picture is so erotic and all the links are dead. i should've checked this gen sooner...it'd be awesome if you at least posted 1 on catbox so i can take a gander at their headpiece
>>576559842I don't understand
>>576559874Toby would never acknowledge that he can fumble something and thinks his line about it being a "fun chapter" protects him from all criticism. He's also still in his "trust in the plan, you're all retarded, wait until it's finished" mindset. Which, fair.
The Knight is obviously Papyrus, guys.
>>576559834Lol I had the same thought. I wonder if Toby originally wanted to have one of these before landing on the current game structure and release scheduke
>>576559751>causing fans to believe he had some sort of power over gold like magneto but specifically for golThat's sick as fuck actually. Why haven't I seen a magneto clone like that?
>>576559874small amount of loud schizos isn't everyone
>>576559874Because doomposters live in a bubble
>>576559904where is the chapter 5 theory line from I must have missed it
>7B is going to be a full chapter on its own>Already lots of progressYou can tell Toby really wanted to get to this part if it's already got this much done before chapter 6 is even out. I can't wait to see what batshit insane things will happen.
>>576559950pretty sure “chapter 8” is exactly what side B is going to be
>>576559984Theorytubers arent real people and should crawl back to FNAF where they belong.
>>576558834>>576558978Toby's favorite too.
>>576559835If we got a carol boss fight I fear I might genuinely throw up or pass out (positively)
>>576559646Based Spamton lover
>>576560008>headpiecenone, its all body pics (sexo) without their heads in the shot
>>576559995he(the goat)'s built for BBC
>>576559609Nah. The knight might not be dess but it's a 100% intentional red herring if she's not. You put 1225 into a door where you find a knight with antlers and a bat that turns into a sword. You're supposed to think of dess, even if it's not her. Toby's talking about theories where people are taking information and coming to a conclusion he didn't intend. That's not dess knight.
>>576559984Hated this chapter
>>576559130I love him so much
>>576559874It isn’t well received in comparison to the other chapters it has the most backlash. unironic cope from toby.
>>576559657>Everything else is either too niche to have been noticedHe's a Tumblrina so he knows about trans Ralsei and doesn't want people to kill themselves when it doesn't happen
>>576560001i feel like toby won't give us any actual kiss scenes but a really intense hug isn't off the table. insert that one .webm here
* It's a patch of moss that strangely resembles the shape of a strong looking human.
Can't wait for ch6-7 to be nonstop lorebombs and a bunch of retards start complaining about ch1-5 being "time wasters"
Mewmew’s slimy and reeking butthole~
>>576560118Chapter 1 and 3 had way more hate
>>576560126KRIS DON'T
>>576559407Bulky Bulky
>>576560174BONER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>576560086>its all body picsthat's actually so much better...suits are such a big kink of mine.
>>576559106>Anyone who keeps thinking about it, like I have, gets my highest blessing. So, imagining what could happen, and trying to think about the meaning of the game, is very cool.Sorry I have the highest blessing of Dog to keep on schizo theorycrafting and he thinks it's very cool actually. (You) lost.
>>576560102>Nah. The knight might not be dess but it's a 100% intentional red herring if she's not.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPEZRAxNdEInot everything is a red herring you delusional nigger get a hold of yourselfthe "obvious" parallels are carol.did toby saying explicitly "Some people misinterpret things I put in the game, that sucks!"
Am I the only one who read the theory part of the newsletter and thought, 'oh no, Gaster isn't happening, is he?"
>>576559357>>576560126OH, SHIT! A RAT!
I am getting red herring vibes from this 7B news
https://youtu.be/yMoYKHsj5ug?si=BlO8Hh4CRE2UgobCi beat disco elysium yesterday and now i wish i could make all kinds of crossover fanart especially with chara. like chara as harry or maybe they'd fit kim better in a way at least disposition-wise. i don't know actually. maybe i could be harry and they could be kim for some real no shame self insert business. or just something else like the portraits. but the problem with that one is i suck too much to emulate the painterly style of the game i don't think i could do it proper justice. i don't know i'll have to sit on these ideas maybe i still feel too shit to draw anything. but the images are dancing around in my head. shuffling around, vomitting into trash cans in a barely-conscious stupor... forgetting why they were even there. but let's try to hold on, as much as we can.
>>576560107Wait a minute, that face...
>>576559834He's mentioned that chapter 6 has gameplay in multiple newsletters. It's not just a cutscene, it's still part of the game. It's just shorter than 5 was and less of a sprawling adventure.
>>576560118people said 3 shouldn't have even been a chapter and that the only thing of value in it was the knight at first. people were filtered HARD already
>twitter screencaps of posts no one gives a fuck about/v/ has come to.
>>576560235'vke but stop posting twitter screencaps here. just copy paste the post if you want to share an idea from there that badly
>>576560174Woah, ja-FLACCID!
>>576560180Nope. They really don’t. Chapter 5 has the absolute minimum plot progression on pacifist / normal and Toby even acknowledges this
>>576560062>Theorytubers arent real people and should crawl back to FNAF where they belong.Anon almost half of the people who play deltarune they play because of the story they dont play because of the gameplay.
>>576560239bigBIG
>>576560223Gaster literally takes over Toby's Twitter account whenever a new Chapter is released. I think Gaster's presence is one of the few things we can be certain about.
>>576560285xer sharing of twitter screenshots makes it easier to filter out xitter opinions you are a faggot for caring about
>>576560235>chud TADC fan who loves JaxFunniest type of conservitard
>>576560280it's not Toby's fault that he summons them but I do resent him for it regardless
>>576560147seen this happen a billion times, niggers who don’t know how pacing and setup works thinking only the payoff episodes are good and anything else is filler
>>576560209He's saying that so his fans don't kill themselves or turn it into anger once it's debunked. Clearly no one has any issues with people theorizing about the game, but it's all going to be wrong is what he's warning people about.
>>576560057The whole of Chapter 7B is going 8 hours of Noelle and Kris having a picnic in another reality and sharing cheesy, heartwarming interactions.
>>576560118>It isn’t well received in comparison to the other chapters it has the most backlash. Tenna out of nowhere
>>576560235Jax is Jewish.
>>576560061>chapter 7 is chapter 8Wow, you must be some kind of genius!
>>576559834I've never played Mother what the fuck does this mean?
>>576560312yeah the gameplay is so superfluous
GLUE
>>576559106I haven't been here in a few days but this makes me think something really central to deltarune thought might be absolutely 100% wrongIt isn't DessKnight, is it?
>>576559874Didn’t it reach its highest concurrent playerbase ever
So uhWhat are people SO attached to that toby felt the need to forewarn "clarification" on?Like it feels like something revealed in chapter 6 might be kinda uh, disliked
>>576560336nothing about this post is even chuddy and i feel really bad for this anon. you can tell he's experienced actual pain vs goose who has likely been thru nothing
>>576560309You are in a bubble and are either a newfag or dont remember chapter 3's reception.
Damn, I should finish Weird Route if ch7b is going to be an entirely different chapter
>please care about tranny circus please care about tranny circus please care about tranny circus please care about tranny circus please care about tranny circus please care about tranny circus please care about tranny circus please care about tranny circus please care about tranny circus please care about tranny circus
* It's a faded photo of a strong looking human.
i still think kris is amab because of mancountry, and its more compelling evidence than kris being afab because of aqua>inb4 its called mancountry because the forgotten man is therecurtains are blue headass. chapter 3 is deeply introspective into kris's traumas and psyche. there's a reason it's the chapter that diegetically hints to the weird route
>>576560390Chapter 6 in mother 3 is a single cutscene that blows anything toby’s ever written out of the water.
>>576560312theoryshit is NOT story
>>576560271this anon has autism
>>576560451It's either going to be the Knight or that Gaster will get a confirmed design, or have any information about him confirmed. We will enter the UTDR universe with spr_mysteryman, and we will leave the UTDR universe with only spr_mysteryman. We will never know if he is purple or green, if his face usually has the cracks, if he's Sans's brother or his father, nothing beyond the way he talks to us and what he wants out of HIS DELTARUNE. We might learn why he originally created the universe, his intent, all that, but we will never see him and we will only learn more about Sans specifically, who will 'that fateful day' post about Gaster and then move on.
Okay so the one thing that gets clarified has to be Dess right?
Can I get Mother and Mother 3 done before Chapter 6?
>you should keep making theories if you are having fun with them because this is a once in a lifetime possibility to do soor>all your theories are dumb and you should hang yourselvesWhat did tony REALLY mean?
>>576560249discos OST is so comfy
>>576560461>whining about troons isnt chuddyOh anon
>>576560451If there’s 100 different different theories only one of them will be right anon
>>576560554p easily yea
>>576560312toby fox would be flipping burgers if it wasn't for the gameplay of sans blowing up, actual gamers own his life and he recognizes this by giving us fun shit to do like 4rd sanctuary and mean bombs
>>576560451>Kriselle knight theory is bullshit>Tralsei is bullshit >Gaster may forever be a vaguepost I can't think of many other theories that the fandom (or certain parts of it..) have been giddy about in this latest release cycle
>>576560497Femkris confirmation really would destroy /utg/ huh
>>576559767I mean, I'd say they work. As you said, Genocide is a slog where you are doing all of it to see what will happen. Part of the mentality of the Genocide route is you do all of it to see what will happen, and the two boss fights are the "what happen". It's almost like a mystery, there is no point in caring about the mystery without the reveal. The sans and undyne fights are the pay off for the Genocide route's, the "what happens" of "pushing the game to its limits to see what happens"
>>576559609>Toby says he personally doesn't look at fan theories>Toby saying people expecting a different story than he wrote means Dessknight is being called out specificallyChoose one
>>576559834If it really was this short, I think the chapter would've came out this year rather than Toby being confident about it releasing in 2027, but not completely so, which implies its not early 2027. I'm moreso thinking by "short" he means a chapter around the length of chapter 1.
>>576560554You can get every jrpg on both famicoms done before chapter 6, anon
>>576560451If you haven't seen the fandom outside of here, some people are so attached to the theory that Ralsei is trans that they call you transphobic if you call him a boy
>>576560436my vaguepost KING
If the weird route really is the "true" route I'll be monumentally disappointededgeslop with very little gameplay changes until the very end just really isn't compelling, I'm sorry that I liked most of the main cast more than Noelle
>>576560217I don't even care if dess is the fucking knight.Do you seriously think that toby wrote this shit and didn't think anyone would think dess is the knight? No shit there's carol parallels. There's supposed to be multiple parallels to multiple people. There's parallels to rudy and asriel too! That's what a mystery is you dumbfuck
>>576560554they're very short jrpgs so yes>>576560561he's happy that people do theorieshe doesn't want those theories to make people go schizohow blatant does he have to be"Theories are cool but sometimes people misinterpret things! Sorry"
>>576560561He means don’t get too attached to your theories to the point where you’ll be disappointed by a different outcome. He saw what happened to Tatsuki Fujimoto’s fanbase.
>>576560451I'm a firm Dessknight believer but I am 100% expecting the mystery of the Knight's identity to be resolved in a fashion that throws literally everyone who's ever speculated on it for a loop at this point, even if bits and pieces ended up being correct.
>>576560587that guy could be a black dude who campaigned for kamala or something idk man not everyone who very very very understandably dislikes trans stuff is a chud. i hope he got the help he needed
>>576560660Only delusional retards think its the true route
>>576560561Toby wrote a whole newsletter of SEETHING COPE about ME and the things I said about his game on 4chan, and the cherry on top? He told me to get RAPED to DEATH!
>>576560619i have a vested interest in kris having a penis, because i want to suck it
>>576560561“Your theories are wrong but I’m still happy you’re making them”
>>576560497You think Kris is AMAB because you have a penis so you want Kris to have a penis too, just like all Kris self-inserters
>>576559767>I'd legitimately consider Sans' (and Undyne the Undying's by extension) fight a weirdhaha contradiction of the Genocide Route's messaging.fun fact, you can actually make the geno run slightly more fun too by smashing spare until toriel stops attacking before you kill her and watching through all the muffet geno-exclusive dialogue, the former doesnt skip the battle and the latter REWARDS you for being curious and wanting to know what muffet has to say by both giving you dialogue and an actual encounter (which contradicts the supposed "slog where you put yourself through absolute tedium just to see what would happen" thing), not to mention you always got the option to walk forward to a later room with stronger enemies that give more EXP and are slightly more challenging, meaning that by seeking looxes and seeking the CORE mercenaries in the ruins and hotland/core respectively, you get more out of it, with the former letting you fight napstablook and also giving you extra POWER to deal with undyne the undying later on, and the latter still gives you an exhaustive grind anyways, but the enemies there stand more of a chance plus you get to hear the core theme while you do it so its not as boring as simply killing all enemies in the first room would be (which is what most people did in their geno run playthroughs, causing the illusion that the genocide run is more boring than it actually is), the geno route essentially rewards you for taking the more challenging actions (the fact that the notebook and the glasses are the best weapons/armors for dealing with sans' karma alongside making the undying fight more challenging support this notion) and for seeking more power (aka killing the enemies that give you the highest amount of EXP)
>>576560628You don't have to look for theory discussion specifically to see everyone and their mother posting about dessknight as though it were already confirmed in all that art. No contradiction needed in the same way that he doesn't need to be searching out shit to see Woody posts which he explicitly said wasn't real in here too
>>576560390Lucas passes out and is cratering towards the Earth.He then dreams of finally meeting his dead mother again because deep down he knows his home is full of ungrateful people and that maybe death would be preferable to this bullshit.Then he survives Assassin’s Creed haystack style and trucks along
>>576560667>Do you seriously think that toby wrote this shit and didn't think anyone would think dess is the knight?toby is not a magic man who can know what the most schizoid fans will believedo you think he changed the soul shit in chapter 4 twice because he thought it was funny?>However, I do think it’s important to mention, sometimes you don’t have all the information, or I had a different expectation about how certain info would be interpreted or combined.these are his exact words
I just hate how it feels like this fan letter sort of undermines Chapter 6? Like he just admitted it's short, it won't explain a lot, and it will leave most of the meaty stuff to Chapter 7, on top of having nothing on the Weird R- I mean Side B? Coming from "Filler episode" Chapter 5 to "Going to Blue Ball You to Death" Chapter 6 sounds like this is going to be awful.
No horni thread :[
Hear that, Kress fans?
>>576560718well, newsletter seems to heavily imply there isn't some magical third routeso you either got the prophecy going as planned and everything sucking, or edgeslop
>>576560779GET THEIR AAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSS ORANGE
>>576560652>be toby>put your cute fluffy boy in a princess dress>not even the first time he's worn a dress or something princess related, but anyway >hordes of ugly and retarded people start insisting he's a troon>need to let them know that's not the case, but you also need to do it gently lest they ack>timeskip >profit
>>576560712you have to worship trannies and pretend they are the most oppressed class of person on earth or else you're an ultra maga white supremacist, twitter told me
>>576560798wrong, see >>576560729
>>576560712Chud fingers that seethed about TADC typed this post
One of his most based slice of life gifs ever
>>576560687CSM fans fucking suck but Fujimoto absolutely bungled that last stretch lets be honest here
>>576560693I promise Dess Knight isn't going to be "Edgy evil girl wants to burn the world out of spite/edge lord power fantasy" and is going to align more with corrupted/possessed Dessknight theories and people are going to upset
I unironically did enjoy speculating about Chapter 5 more than I did playing it, so maybe Toby's onto something.
>>576560436I'm tripling down on kriselleknight. Dessknight is the most common theory and toby is prepping for the Dessknight meltdowns
>Chapter 6 starts>Kris turns directly towards the camera>speaks to us for the first time in the entire game>"Dess is the Knight.">credits roll>Look forward to Chapter 7a, 7b, 7a-1, 7a-2, and 7-DELTA releasing in 2030
>>576560881just monsters bein dudes...
* It's a strong looking human. It rotates rapidly.
>>576560497i don't think there's any solid proof for male or female or tranny kris, and what exists is either toby not thinking about how US plebs will take it, or toby going "let me try to feed everyone" leaning towards him just doing his thing and not giving a shit though
>>576560819>anon is surprised that the final chapter of the game will be the one answering all the questions how do you function on a daily basis?
>>576560561It means that he loves meteor theory and if you post about meteor theory then Toby loves you
>>576560235
>>576560882chainsaw man? isn't that the alt right chud anime that flopped embarrassingly??
>>576560584it is! it's very very wonderful. it added a lot to the experience.
Dropping the utg Tenna cosplayer ziphttps://litter.catbox.moe/8hy2nx.zip
If he was saying "I didn't expect you to expect this" about any knight theory it would NOT be Dess, he'd be fucking retarded if he didn't notice the sword looked like a baseball bat in its intro animationIt would apply much more to Rudy in the case Rudy Knight is wrong because all the "hints" are immediately recontextualized as fan schizophrenia in a way that Dess Knight's hints wouldn't (they'd be intentional red herrings if she wasn't the Knight)
Roaring Knight and Ralsei are two sides of the same coin.
This wait is going to be even more painful isn't it
>>576560956GO HUMAN GO HUMAN GO
>>576560652
>>576560965I'm surprised it's going to suck to wait another year after getting served a breadcrumb worth of what I actually want. If this is the case, I'd rather have him release Chapter 7 like, a month later.
god fucking damn it why did the newsletter have to bring the /v/ermin backshut up about deltarune everybody! stop talking about the video game! it's time for more "tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny"!!!! that's all we can fucking talk about when /v/ is aroundforget about having any real discussion, let's just make everything about trannies again!!!!!
any time I come here to see announcement reactions I'm always so surprised how many people hate chapter 5 here when it was my fave
>>576560880you couldn't pay me to watch tranny circus. genuinely. some part of me thinks that anon is dumb for getting so upset about a shitty character from a zoomie drama show but another part knows i'd also be devastated if a character i really love got trooned out, so i get it. luckily that will never happen to bratty
>>576561018It's only 4 months, anon.
I am entirely confident that post chapter 6, pre chapter 7 will be the most obnoxious /utg/ era where doomposting and shitposting will run rampant
What if instead of chibi, she yelled out FAGGOT
>>576560818>I had a different expectation about how certain info would be interpreted or combinedtaking this as "toby was BLINDSIDED by dessknight" is just an argument about how many braincells toby has. There's no point
>>576560451Toby assumes a lot of shit about how his audience will react. Like he didn't think his fans would like Tenna at all.I don't think this hints towards anything. Yes a lot of people believe in Dess Knight, but a lot of people also don't believe it. There's also the fact that even if Dess Knight is confirmed it won't be how we thought it was. A lot of people think she's fully autonomous with personal motivations when she could just be a corpse being piloted around. That would throw the whole appeal of Dess Knight out the window for a lot of people.By the way there's, a fuckton of people who think ERAM/mantle holder is a newly introduced separate character from all the other mystery characters. Personally I can't understand why this is such a common interpretation, I feel like people are bound to be disappointed if ERAM isn't its own character or doesn't get addressed at all.
>>576560992check out British Sea Power for full versions of some of the tunes in Disco
>>576558443It's gotta be Dessknight, there is no other theory in this entire game besides Device theory that is so popular that it's just regarded as the truth, and we got confirmation on the Device being true in 5b.
>>576560390In Mother 3 Chapter 6 is only a couple minutes long and is just walking left through a field for a bit. This is followed by Chapter 7 which is roughly 40% of the entire game.
>>576561096why is rudy's ass out
>>576558919Is no one drawing still <:((((
Nobody is ready for the end of chapter 6. or rebuilding the party and all your items againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVFSHdQUSP8
>>576560652i saw a 40 year old trans "woman" arguing about it on reddit the other dayimagine being 40 fucking years old and fighting teenagers online im glad toby will never genuinely cater to these retards
>>576561084Many of us love it and always will.
>>576559781CUTE!!!!
>>576561167you say that as if there aren't anons in this very thread sperging over dessknight
Pixelanon did you always like Orange or did you just like the concept art?
>>576561084it's my 2nd and I agree, early on people just seemed salty about Susie and Noelle more than anything
>>576561087You are playing trannyrune so you are spiritually the same as that delusional retard, my dumb chud pal.
im going to draw....the biggest butt...ever....
>>576561073We're going to have an entire year of waiting for more Deltarune coming right off what was the longest wait for a newsletter, including the post-Chapter 2 drought. I think we'll have plenty of time.
Ralsei is going to come out as AFAB nonbinary and *everyone* will kill themselves but me and it'll be great
While on the topic of cosplays, I REALLY like this one
>>576561115unironically i think toby thought that everyone would reach the conclusion that dess is just stuck in the code or some other form of unreachable location and thus can't be the knight because she's THERE and not HERE
>>576561167once dess knight gets disproven, i will treat them the same way Ralsei treated Orange in chapter 5
>>576560838>keep having as much fun as you canhear that susie? stay in the dark world all you like
>>576560993is there a dick in this
>>576561073this, but only ironically
>>576561123yeah i've been listening to the full soundtrack versions i think today. or maybe you mean there are even more extensions. i'll check it out regardless
>>576560993THANK YOUUUUUUUU, my life is yours anon.
>>576561314You will never be Yellow.
Tralsei theory isn't even a popular theory wtf. It's always been a fringe idea, just because a youtube video on it got popular doesn't mean people think about it much. You can't tell me a majority of the fans are clamouring to know if Ralsei is trans the same way they want Dess Knight confirmation. If anything most people won't give a shit whether tralsei is confirmed or not confirmed.
>>576561018The wait between 6 and 7 will be pure torture
>>576561314YESS very cute, we need more cowboy Tenna
>By the way, I told Fangamer not to expect to make too much merchandise for Chapter 6 and 7.I guess there's not a single cool marketable Darkner design? That's very difficult to believe that instead he just refuses to let them become merch
>>576561187I am, here's my art of fujo and battat it took 1000 hours to draw
>>576561284>only "confirmed" trans character is a bg npc with like 10 lines tops >creator is a white guy who's bi at best>actual good story and themes uhhhh NOPE do not compare gold to shit
>>576561327there are dess knighters saying that it happened before the game or something
>>576561305can someone make a lil dood/pooner edit of ralsei now?
NOBODY is ready for when we get separated from Kris, get the Vessel, and read our menu and see>"[VESSELNAME]" Since Chapter 6I know the whole "since chapter #' currently exists to track which chapter you started a save file in, but that shit will 100% be used for a meta moment like this
>>576561418>Toby isnt woke because he's white!/v/ is not sending their best
I really want to hear the soundtrack for 7b I'm so fucking scared
>>576561385you don't understand anon, trannies live rent free in people's heads
>>576561410ALL IN ON CATTI THEORYALL THE CHARACTERS ARE LIGHTNERS AND THEY CANT GET MERCH
>>576561058please understand that toby isn’t here to feed theoryfags their yearly fix of lore drops, he’s here to tell a story, and in any story the reveals are best left to the climax
>>576561410Not too much is still some. There'll be one or two new designs that get merch'd, I'm sure.
>>576561456Ralsei hanging troonjak, best I can do
>>576561345No, I think one of them that was supposed to be boner tenting boxers but you can't even see it that well
Since speculation is off the table, now we can focus on the true and canon things in the game
>>576561073why so defensive? hide the posts>>576561118>she genuinely believes toby fox thought his fandom full of girls who grew up gooning to tumblr sexyman sans wouldn't love even more tumblr sexyman coded tenna
>>576561385it's popular enough for there to be reddit drama over itNormal fans don't give a shit about it besides thinking about the evidence but the people who are convinced that toby is an angel sent by god to win the culture war for them care about it LOUDLY
>>576560624I agree on the front that they act as obvious rewards for slogging through it, but my point is more so that they feel like a function of "Undertale: The Game" in a way that contradicts "Undertale: The Story" when the game is usually really good at marrying the two. I get that there had to be SOMETHING in terms of intrinsic rewards because even more people would've just watched it on Youtube than they already did but I don't think it can be reconciled with the narrative the game itself wants to push regarding your actions during it.>>576560802I actually did do most of this stuff (moving to later rooms to grind on stronger enemies in particular), but I don't think it really helps. The little stuff adds up, but in general it really does kinda just feel like mashing attack on enemies while dodging some of the babbiest attack patterns to ever grace a Bullet Hell for90% of its runtime. I do get your point though.
i like how the whole newsletter is toby doing damage control for why people didnt like chapter 5
>>576561395me with the six seven meme by the end of ithttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/EVpNMQBgop0
>>576560497See I would agree that mancountry represented something important in Kris's psyche if it wasn't directly next to "The Forgotten Island" and contained a character named "The Forgotten Man".Also really importantly is the fact that the game has not made gender an important part of the story in any capacity whatsoever. Ralsei is fine presenting as feminine or masculine, Susie learns to be okay being a little feminine, and Noelle likes girls. Thats the extent of gender's role in Deltarune. It is otherwise remarkably unimportant to every single character in the game.
>>576561385ralsei being trans would become the new bridget if he transitioned
>>576560652>ralsei cant be a cute femboy, we MUST move the goalpost
>>576561415nta ITS PEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>I had a different expectation about how certain info would be interpreted or combined.Read.There is literally no way he wouldn't expect people to assume Dess is the knight.He's talking about theories he didn't expect people to come up with.
>>576561415Deltarune updates are truly the worst time for all draw fags <8((((
>>576561493Exactly. Toby Fox is more active on Bluesky, for gods sake
>>576561560Everyone's like "ohhhh chapter 5 sucked so bad" and then it's Jarona everywhere. You can only pick one. That shit was fun as fuck.
>>576561540Good riddance nothing important ever happens on reddit
>>576561493i agree with this, black people have been through a lot and are actually a disadvantaged class. based toby for mentioning the things that matter and totally ignoring the shit that does not <3
is it just me or did he kinda let on TOO much with this newsletter?He's usually more distant from his fans and I prefer it that way, he kinda let his tumblr/bluesky side out a bit
>>576561410He probably means there won't be new darkners. All lightners, and lightners can't have merch because autism. Or the few that there are will be spoilers. Or hideous monsters of the dark that can't get merch. Maybe all at the same time.
>>576561305>Ralsei is going to come out as AFABAssigned Foreign Alien Bacteriafromthemeteor
I really wish we got more information about kris past in chapter 5.
>>576561540>caring about what leddit thinksthat says more about you than it does meHEY FUJOS I'M HORNY RIGHT NOW, POST YAOI, ANY YAOI I DON'T CARE I'LL SHIP IT ALL
>>576561532
>>576561630yeah i think the chapter 5 criticisms got to him a bit
This game is gonna give me a fucking heart attack I swear.
>>576561532Ah, the doomed yuriship. I can't wait for the tears to drop.
>>576561610He also points out that>sometimes you don't have all the information
>>576561630Well, his game is almost done. I think he's already starting to get into a retrospective headspace.
>>576561385>You can't tell me a majority of the fans are clamouring to know if Ralsei is trans the it's >a really loud minority going crazy about it and >people who don't give a shit about ralsei or even reading the text in this game they claim to love blindly going along with the above because transfems are super oppressed and really need the rep, guys!!
>>576561665that is probably what 6 is gonna be straightforward about and focus on
>>576561695>mPhoneposters fuck off.
I only believe in Dessknight by process of eliminationI don't believe how this could possibly be a good story if it isn't her so I worry a lot if she's not
>>576561695I wonder if the illuminati and council of 13 know of Deltarunes existence
>>576561630I've seen even (relatively) sane people think the pink addition was "damage control for the theory schizoids"that's about as friendly as you're going to get for "Stop being fucking retarded and thinking you know everything"though theory schizoids don't care
>>576561385>Tralsei theory isn't even a popular theory wtf.It's extremely popular on Tumblr which is the only part of the fandom Toby cares about, as confirmed by him writing Tumblr sexyman fanfiction twice
>>576561731>sometimes you don't have all the information>the #1 most common argument against dessknight is "B-BUT NO MOTIVE!"
>>576561540Normal fans just saw femboy fanservice desu
>>576561689>>576561619I don't care, I was upset to learn about the reddit drama against my will from someone posting screenshots here, I'm just saying tralsei is a thing even in normie spaces
>>576561327I don't disagree with that line of thinking but if that was the case why not just have her be dead normally? It'd be the exact same function plot wise if she was just going to be gone. There has to be a reason Toby went out of his way to have her situation be so specific. Not saying that's knight evidence, but if not, what, are we going to go into the code and save her at some point?
>>576561407He looks so cute and sexy in his cowboy outfitHe would get so happy while wearing those clothes and it'd be adorable just how elated he is, I'd love to indulge him and roleplay a bit with him
>>576561689Is this doujin available online..
>>576561695>/pol/tard phoneposterTourists are touring I see
>toby trying his absolute hardest to not specifically mention the burgentruck thing
>>576561689SIR YES SIR!!!!!
>>576561616chapter 5 was bad but also had some funny jokes. These things can coexist
>>576561543>but I don't think it really helps.it does if you know how to pull it off right, if you pick on loox 3 times you can get 22 exp off of killing it (you can also get 24 exp if you do some "not picking on" and "picking on" autism but who cares), meaning that by the time you finish the kill count, you'll be LV 7 before killing toriel, after that you can grind on Glyde (yes, that encounter can be repeated) and get a fuckton of LV, and if you target aaron and woshua in waterfall specifically, you'll most likely be around lv 12 i think by the time you get to undyne the undying
>>576561829Its a bad meme that overshadowed a better variant of the meme with more funny music and better singing. Fuck asgore truck memes. Fuck Twitter. And fuck YOUUUUU
why do I hear battle music
>>576561579This is mainly my issue with it because it would completely kill all interesting discussion regarding the character. It already happened with jax from the amazing transgender circus, literally nobody discusses anything about him other than the fact he’s a closeted trans woman.
>>576561806>Toby only cares about Japan>Toby only cares about Tumblr>Toby only cares about normalfagsMAKE UP YOUR GODDAMN MIND
>pretending to care about suselle to own da chudsKEK!!!!!!!
>>576561829And he's right to do so, shit was funny for like 10 minutes and then became sooo overused. Now its finally died out.
This shit has actually been in development for 14 years
There are no exceptions.
>>576561447people tried too hard to give dess agency instead of just remembering that she's lost. jumping over the direct symbolism in stuff like sword route to reach these conclusions it's legit people just trying too hard and collective internet psychosis.
>>576561689>POST YAOIHell yeah
>>576561850
>>576561959FINALLY WHAT ARE YOU IDIOTS USEFUL FOR
toby cares about all the social media spaces I use and said all my theories are true and canon and if you had an ounce of reading comprehension you would know that the newsletter says this explicitly
>>576561862I'm glad I wasn't in the prostate pendulum mindset and expecting a big loredrop and actually played the game instead of watching it so I got to enjoy the chapter instead of thinking it was zomg filler.
Speaking of Tenna cosplayers. Let's say that hypothetically you started dating a guy who cosplays and he told you he needs ideas for older characters to cosplay. Do you dare suggest he do a Tenna cosplay?
>>576561959Based. Fuck the nods
>>576561939toby cares about people who play and enjoy deltarune. but he's a man so he's likely thinking of cute enbies (female of course) and japanese qt fujos when he thinks of what fanservice to add
people tried too hard to give rudy agency instead of just remembering that he's noelle's dying dad. jumping over the direct symbolism in stuff like flowery dying to reach these conclusions it's legit people just trying too hard and collective internet psychosis.
>>576561810it's the knight's motivation, if dess was truly dead then there would be no reason for the knight to do what they do if they knew they couldnt bring her back, but dess being in a weird gasterfuck state but alive is enough hope to push the knight forward
>>576561956Kinda fucked up how Chapter 3's development was responsible for 3 years of the 14. It's actually a little weird that they didn't know what they actually wanted to do for that chapter when chapter 5 was down fully from fucking 2019.
There's like 30 things more important to address in the plot than Ralsei's alleged gender issues
>>576562039Do it.
>>576561956You mean the thing that toby has been saying for the past 8 years wasn't him randomly lying for no reason to spite internet schizoids?Perish the thought!Tad Strange is real!
>>576562092But if it wasnt important 4chan wouldnt be obsessed with it
>/v/ermin obsessing about trannies again so they don't have to think about the obvious implication that Dessknight is not real
>>576561814Not sure fampai, they have an extended Pixiv preview but either way you have to buy it.https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/147512037
>>576562025dipping into my 300 image spamtenna folder for this one i dont even like them that much it just comprises like half of all tenna images
>>576562092That's right1. Where is Papyrus?2. Why isn't Papyrus here?3. When are we going to see Papyrus?4. Why haven't I seen Papyrus yet?5. Why do you continue to deny me Papyrus?
>>576561939Toby cares about Japan but he doesn't pay attention to Japanese social media, meanwhile he's on Tumblr often enough to post about Pjackk getting banned.
I sincerely adore Flowery.
>>576561810Because if she's dead then saving her can't be the motivation for anyone's actions. Doing bad things because she died is pointless revenge or something, if it's to save someone it becomes noble
>>576562151gonna be real with youI have never once decided who the roaring knight isI usually just went with whatever would be funny, but mabye that ultra autistic kris/noelle fusion shit is real, idk
>>576562080You think Kris would team up with the knight and start edging the literal end of the world just on a total hunch on it being the way to save dess?
>>576561956I remember where I was in 2019 when the concept for the sun background was made. Dubstep was still hip, somehow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoLwA00V9mY
>>576562205youre either a huge fag or a real woman
My wife is in this image
>>576562242I go on what I think Sounds and Looks Cool like Battat and his canonically favorite beverage
>>576559450Why not. Why shouldn't it play the way it is in their heads Why doesn't only Toby get to have a dream game
>>576561806the issue with this is that tumblr has changed a lot. like, a lot... it was once a mecca composed of nerdy females. now, it's been overrun by agp yuritroons who argue about their right to consume loli porn, or whether or not transmascs are responsible for transmisogyny and, blah blah blah baeddal shit blah blah blah yap yap. maybe toby CARED about tumblr like, ten years ago, but i highly doubt the current form of it has any piece of his heart. if you check the galsei tag it's mainly going to be trannies who think they have alters in their heads and stuff. these are not the people you want to appeal to, in any sense of the word
>>576562201Papyrus is in my bed and we're about to do some hardcore snoozing.
god I love yaoi, thank you fujos
>>576562182
>>576561689>>576562182ooh, saved!! I'll post some of my faves in general
she WILL get a fight in chapter 6
>>576562254That's like the only reasonable motivation for them to do something like that, honestly.
>>576562328This. 2015 Tumblr is worlds away from 2026 Tumblr.
>>576562092Yeah that's why Toby tried to gently tell people that he didn't expect them to draw connections between the Kris colored drink ticket and an optional minigame scene that can be overwritten by Starwalker and it doesn't actually mean anything
>>576562103Eventually maybe.
>>576562270Hey you're the anon who exposed me to stoned witchunters songs hexGimme a other song that'll make me horny i liked the last one
>>576562039I already have a beautiful husband, I wouldn't be dating some rando
>>576562417I'm perfectly fine with not fucking a Mantis girl, actually
>>576562282I'll leave it to your imagination which.
>>576562151>Le heckin V is ruining my tranny safe space where I totally discuss the game by avatarfagging and talking about my fetishes, I'm gonna dilate
>>576562067If he's thinking about fujos wouldnt that debunk tralsei? It'd hurt the fujos yaoi
>>576562254yes? are you dumb
>>576562138if nonbinary kris was totally canon nobody would argue about it
>>576562485real woman it is
>>576562479wear protection dumb dumb (titanium sallet)
>>576562393yaaaay come join the fun
Does anyone ship Shadowguy x Yellow
>>576562526Non binary people aren't real, you're either born with a penis or a vagina. You can't change the sex God gave you, give up
>>576558919ohhhh kris the one minute…
>>576561689>>576562393
>>576562501well yeah DUHDude even added a more explicit "seme" character for ralsei fangirls to imagine fucking ralsei trooning the fluffy boy is simply not on the table. trans spamton might be but ralsei? nu uh, no way
>>576562598the square peg into square hole of ships
>>576562661lmao
>>576562526Thats extremely funny because Kris doesnt use he or she pronouns anywhere in the game.
>>576562578violent fighting yaoi SEX
>>576562658This is edited
don't you like serving humans?
Yet, it stands.
https://poal.me/g95wbshttps://poal.me/g95wbshttps://poal.me/g95wbs
>>576562598why would anyone ship that? *pushes you hard* huh? *keeps pushing you* fucking pussy
>>576558989It's definitely Noelle's house, but it'll be cut short with the Knight reveal into her dad dying.
>>576561653Actually if you check the chapter 5 concept art section he actually states there won't be any more important darkner "attention-seeking" characters in Chapter 6. I do notice he specifically said "Darkner" though, so attention seeking lightners and attention seeking not-of-this-worldners are not off the table...
https://poal.me/oihnqeVote in me
Toby can't make me play the weird route no matter how hard he baits about it being super important because Noelle becoming a school shooter due to affluenza is simply not interesting. Gaster needs to come out of my screen and fuck me or I won't freeze the bird.
>>576561939He hates the normalfags though
>>576561878That metagaming aspect of it is an interesting angle (I fully admit I was an early Geno route doer so a lot of the "tech" to make it more bearable is stuff I only really got to incorporate later in the run) but teebeeaytch after a while of doing even that it still feels really flowchart-y and doesn't really address my issue with the rest of the gameplay not being interesting enough to make up for it. I will admit that it's an aspect I haven't thought too much about over the years though, maybe I'll do another Geno route playthrough and see if doing all of this rather than just most of it makes it less boring.
>>576562039Women will date a guy that they don't feel comfortable around so much that they have to ask an anonymous imageboard if they should share one of their interests with themYeah no don't ask him to cosplay Tenna he would probably HATE you for it and think you're WEIRD and BREAK UP with you
>>576562313what a cute wife anon
>>576562658>he still believes in godthat's a good little goy
>>576562328>now, it's been overrun by agp yuritroons who argue about their right to consume loli pornIf true, that's kinda funny considering how every other troon-heavy space is viciously anti-loli.
>>576562658based
>>576559251>Do you hate it because there was no dess or knight loreI think it sucked ass because 90% of it felt like Toby jelqing his weeb boner and subverting our expectations after the heights of Ch4 for the sake of subverting them, and no, I don't fucking care that we didn't get Susie Gaster stimmies, because 3 was a ""filler"" chapter too and I liked it even after being blindsided by it during my first playthrough. The Sword Route alone is more compelling than nearly anything 5 had to offer aside from the Weird Route, but 1. that's cheating and 2. it's a glorified cutscene>do you hate it because of the flowersI vaguely liked half of them, but I couldn't get emotionally invested in Watching Their Dreams™ and I feel like a fucking alien for merely existing in the same fandom where people suddenly think fucking Flowery and Pink are some of the best characters Toby's ever written. "They feel like fangame characters!!" is a pretty weak criticism now that we know this chapter was first conceived in 2016, but I can't think of any better way of putting italso I just don't like corny anime memes and I've always seen them as one of Toby's gayest fixations, so I think I was just predisposed towards hating an entire chapter themed around them
>>576562658You gots it wrong, paisano. Issa gender thingy, not sex. Which is (unless you go full retard) another binary anyway, still making nonbinary literal nonsense.
>>576562661Cute art as ever oxoxox
>>576561689>>576562667
>>576562479>>576562573cowards, both of you. if she eats you that means you werent good enough for her
I do wonder what type of game genre will toby pick to make his new game once hes done with deltarune.
>>576559874If it was truly well received he wouldn't spend literally half+ of the newsletter addressing the oft-stated community concern about pacing.
Yes
>>576562775>so attention seeking lightners and attention seeking not-of-this-worldners are not off the table...carol and rudy screentime yayy
Short chapter means a likely early 2027 release date for a chapter that is confirmed to have at least one earth shattering revelation. Am I the only one excited?
>>576562905Jrpg. He'll do it for real this time
>>576562661>>576561972KEK love these
>>576562961anon lightners aren't allowed merchandisefor dumb meta reasons
>>576562939Undeniable crushing proof trans women are male brained
>>576562913>he wouldn't spend literally half+ of the newsletter addressing the oft-stated community concern about pacing.We can all see the newsletter so we can all see that isnt true lol
>>576562769Noelle's house is way too goofy for a chapter Toby explicitly said wouldn't be wacky. It's impossible to make all that kitschy Christmas shit super serious and dark even if Rudy is coughing up blood all over it.
>>576562732uwah yum!!!
>>576562905sokoban time! rouxls and pushing buddies were training us for the hour long level!
Amazing things are happening and now they need to dry until tomorrow unfortunately.
>>576562504>>576562426Then if your objective was keeping susie alive wouldn't you be totally justified in weird routing with the knowledge we have as of right now?
>>576562739Why, yes, I do like serving humans. Thank you for noticing, Flowery.
>>576563006i hope toby gets over that autism eventually
>>576562939it's mostly teenagers who make jokes like thisnone of my adult trans friends make these jokes and the people i see online doing it are always teens in my experience
>>576563046Neat! Don't forget to post it.
>>576562489I FUCKING LOVE WOJAKS THEY’RE SO BRIGHT AND YUMMEHHHH DADDY BEAT ME UP WHEJ I WAS 6
>>576563006>>576562961what attention seeking not-of-this-worldners could we possibly enjoy? someone from one of toby fox's old rpg maker projects that got warped into deltarune like how sans undertale is from deltarune?
>>576563039The hospital would not be described as "just next door" in Chapter 3
>>576562939i like to imagine you're a troon with tears in his eyes who's posting this stuff here in hopes someone cares enough to refute or make fun of it
>>576560057I imagine 7B is probably Toby's real idea for the ending. And 7 is just the normal video game ending for normal people.
>>576563039AND it can still have the "obvious" darkners like the Angel Doll (There is one in the hospital room anyway) and Dess' guitar (I can see Noelle bringing it to cheer up Rudy or something)
>>576563039Dess discovery at Icee’s
>>576563042YUMMY YUMMY!!!!
Why does /utg/ get really bad every time there is new content? Its a pattern I can't ignore any longer.
>>576563151>I like to imagine (fanfiction)
I just woke up what the fuck is going on?
>>576563118blue rudinn
notice how oranges theme and susies theme use the same main instrument. this is a subtle hint that susie belongs to the MOUSE-element and that Orange has a secret purple forme
>>576563219Chapter 5 newsletter. Oh, also /v/ is back.
>>576563091Thats a Twitter screencap though. Teenagers arent supposed to be on twitter
>>576563039>Goofy>The room of a missing teenager >Two huge ass katanas>The master bedroom in the complete dark, abnormally so for the light world >And now family father may be between life and death, a setup that prevents Rudy from calming Carol from losing it in ch6It's going to be dark, dark, yet darker.
>>576563219IT'S OVER THE WORLD IS ENDING (newsletter)
>>576563006He said chapter 6 and 7 won't have that much merch so that's more evidence for them being Lightner-heavy
>>576563187Sex with this
i haven't added many new spamtenna pics to my folder in a while
>>576563118>someone from one of toby fox's old rpg maker projects that got warped into deltaruneOdio Odie battle...
>>576563187it attracts casuals and reaction farmers, true general users don't need content to be here
>>576563187tourists from /v/
a classic
>>576563187some people are only invested in being annoying as visibly as possible
>>576563187asriel fucks THIS?!?!?
>>576563187/v/ermin start crawling out of the woodwork to post here since they can't post about it anywhere elsewe need /drg/ back...
>>576563215you responded really fast kek was i right
>>576563228>Ms Mowz is sex rat>Orange is sex ratcoincidence?
>>576563187Does Twitter just feed everyone the same porn because I saw this one earlier
>>576563039>It's impossible to make all that kitschy Christmas shit super serious and dark even if Rudy is coughing up blood all over it.A lot of Christmas related stories are kinda fucked up. A Christmas Story seems like a fun adventure, but it's a man being faced with his own mortality and immorality by 4 spirits, one being his former partner who is basically tortured in death, one that shows how he could've made things better, one that shows how no one cares about him, and another that is effectively Death itself showing him his grave. That's all really fucked up for something treated as an almost jokey fable.
>>576561018We could have kept this wait going without any impatience at all, but Toby had to go and get us hyped up by saying This will be Happening next chapter, so this is gonna feel a LOT longer
>>576563187male or female
>>576563186
>>576563091so the vast majority of trans people are teens, huh? how curious...>>576563228NEW Theory! Susie is actually a half-mouse half-dragon half-horse monster that got the recessive mouse genes so she feels insecure about her short tail
>>576563047non sequitur in and out of context since we'd be talking about something that already happened
>>576563187yeah i’m shlicking to this
jannies tirelessly working overtime to not do anything
>>576563039>It's impossible to make all that kitschy Christmas shit super serious and darkyou are playing deltarune little boy turning quirked up kitschy shit into creepy horror fuel is part of what makes these games so great also google krampus
>>576563324>Dude, you know Twitter sends that pic to EVERY user, right?
>>576563256It's a short chapter so it wouldn't be able to cover the entire house. And katanas are goofy, yes.
>>576563337guys you were warned before 5 even came out that the happening was coming in 6
Love his pretty nose flowers
>>576563039you will play your christmas-themed psychological horror chapter and you will enjoy it faggot
>>576563348anon women sluts just post their tits or pussy outline outright what do you think
>>576563187/v/irgins got bitch broken by abib being a faggot so they just impotently spam here instead
>>576563187>>576563348thats a boy
ohmigodohmigodohmigawd i love twitter caps they make my izzat +100000
>>576563426the men of this general are sluts
NSFW doujin with really good arthttps://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/147866845
>>576563348>big tranny flag in the bg>messy ass roomgee i wonder
Handsome flower.
>the weird route really is going to be the "true" routeshitty, genuinely shittymaybe it's good my hopes for the ending go down now I guess
>>576562884thank you gorgeous
>>576562986>Jrpg. He'll do it for real this timeI doubt hes going to do jrpg againmy guess here is that he will do a point and click instead.
Deltarune is actually a Christmas game, not a Halloween game.
I'm seriously wondering if toby is getting him to voice some spamton thing
>>576563409oh you bastard
>>576563491How is that your takeaway
>>576563489
ive launched a heat seeking missile at everyone who posted a twitter screencap in this thread. sayonara motherfuckers
>>576563297FUCK, so good >>576563483Ooh nice, thanks!
>>576563491could you perhaps be doing the thing toby told you not to do when you look at "7b" written in large font and interpret it as "the weird rout will be the true route"
>>5765634175 should have ended on a cliffhanger, before 5 I was thinking either Roaring start, or Asriel returns from college
>>576563491wrGODSwereallylovenoelleKINGSweplayedthegameandpaidattentionLORDS
>>576563440They're genderfluid (and hot)https://x.com/PinknDumb
>>576559874did you expect him to go out and say hey everyone fucking hated my work this time and it made me sad
>>576563325You mean a Christmas Carol? Christmas Story is a slice of life about a kid’s childhood.
>>576559106I was glad he said this. Some of you rely on these theories as emotional pillars and it makes you resent tobert when the actual game doesn't resemble your made up headcanon.
>>576563325A Christmas Story doesn't have any dancing Santas or automatic treat catchers in it>>576563396Krampus is not dark or serious unless you are a five year old German child
>>576563584based
>>576563043VoidStranger already did it
>>576563628Yes, Christmas Carol. Oops.
>>576563613Oh so they're a girl.
>>576563094Thank you! I will, even if it’s horrid. Which it probably will be given this is my first time with real oils.I also should do this I guess even for a wip. >>576558919>>576563046
>>576563613>pussyoh it was a girl these types filter and edit their pics so much it's tough to tell
>>576563628>carolit’s all coming together
>>576563526Just like my favorite Kingdom Hearts world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtuXbXq6QqE
>>576563491Ch7 and 7b isn't the final chapter, they're the roadblock.The true and only end of the game is past these.
>>576563613>genderfluidthats just femboy with extra steps, like being a normal dude IRL and be a total slut online
>>576563187>file deletedBut it was worksafe and on topic
>>576563690im not gay or anything, but im kinda disappointed… haha
>>576563676why are you trying to act tough? inshallah this thing appears in your dreams and fucks you in the ass
>I should go to bed because I have to wake at like 5 am tomorrow>going to just brainrot my night away because of a single newsletter Deltarune has me gripped tight by the BALLS
>>576563370HOLY SHIT HOLY SEX HOLY SHIT HOLY SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THANKS FOR POSTING ANON!!! SAVED!!!!
>>576563491chapter 7b is gonna be longer than 7a, just you wait
>>576563709nice work anon
>>576563717
>>576563790Why is a little German boy posting in /utg/? Shouldn't you be drinking cola and playing Fortnite?
>the weird route really is going to be the "true" routeKINO, genuinely fucking KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOI never doubted Toby Fox for a god damn second.
Dess....
>>576563784No I get you anon, it's definitely disappointing when a hot looking femboy is just a regular girl, their femininity looks a lot less impressive if it's all natural
>>576563798It intends to squeeze them too.
>>576563613I love you anon
>>576563878But there's no gameplay in weird route no battles or nothing
>>576563418Yes, so cute!! Imagine a little bouquet of them
>>576563784No you're definitely gay
>Do all the work to get the twisted sword>It leads to getting to meet Gaster in chapter 7>His sprite is center screen, everything else blacked out, ominous as hell music playing>"Well...">"It looks like there's a FAG here.">He does that stupid face and disappears forever
>>576563489hope this hottie gets more fans soon. So far it's just a handful of female otakus. I didnt like him at first but he grew on me (like a turnip...)
>>576563603When the fountain closes in chapter 5 but everyone is still in the dark world I generally thought before clicking the next textbox that that was gonna be the cliffhanger. Like somehow we're trapped in the dark world even through it shouldn't exist anymore.The knight creating a second fountain frame prefect while the first closes feels unnecessary, they could have just had the knight grab asgore as the soul starts to life up towards closing the first fountain and it would have been the same effect without the whole "knight creating a second fountain frame prefect while the first closes" part.
>>576563875you know this shit is scary, right?
>>576563913haven't you seen >>576563491? the weird route is gonna be superlong
>>576563913N-NOOOOOOOOO WHERE'S MUH HECKIN BATTLES? MUH QUIRKY BOSSFIGHTERINOS THAT I NEED TO MINDLESSLY PRESS WASD. CONSEQUENCES??? PLOT PROGRESSION??? REVELATIONS??? TALKING??? NO, I DON'T WANT THAT!!!
>>576561689>spamtenna doujini must have it.
>>576563890you get it!
I'll say it again. I don't care if the weird route is the true route. Unless Gaster comes out of the screen and gives me sloppy, I am NOT wasting my time on that shit.
>>576563961That is just how the average shota/lolifag looks
>>576564004>uhhh actually its based that we dont get unique boss fights anymore, Spamton sucked!lol
>>576563861
This thread is moving so fast that no one will notice that a character in my quirky RPG is pretty much just a fusion of Tenna and FloweryI DESIGNED HIM DURING THE CHAPTER 2 DAYS AND FEEL LIKE TOBY STOLE MY OC AND SPLIT HIM INTO TWO PEOPLE
>>576564018>I am NOT wasting my time on that shit.Oh yeah then tell us what game are you going to waste your time on then ?
>>576564018you'll be locked out of many lore explanations and you'll have nobody to blame but yourself for missing out on it
Please god let Kriselle Knight be true it would be so fucking funny
>>576563940I choose to believe that he will be the biggest benefactor of the post-Chapter 5 grimdark fave recession.
>>576563961This is just Ralsei but black and naked, Klaus. No, it's no scary.
Hey so why do we have a chapter 7 Side B progress bar when chapter 6 is still being worked
>>576564095Man, I know that feel. I'm running a DnD game, and God of War straight up stole my Thor and Odin.
>>576564018Undertale sound test was predicting this exact scenario tho
thread moving so fast that nobody will notice gaster ralsei tentacle sex rape ahegao overstim and fainting 50 pages all colored
>>576564065Its true im a loli fag and I look like that
hehehe just as planned, this thread has been derailed because *I* asked for yaoi!can we get more Flowery lewds though?
>>576564095>I DESIGNED HIM DURING THE CHAPTER 2 DAYS AND FEEL LIKE TOBY STOLE MY OC AND SPLIT HIM INTO TWO PEOPLEThis is one of my big fears working on my own game: that something I put in will be done by another game before mine comes out, and people think I'm copying that.
>>576564095Your OC sounds sexy.
>>576564018same, ill just watch jewtubes
>>576563961the krismas kretin
>>576564095I made a character puppeted by vines a year before chapter 2 came out and I wanted to blow my brains out
>>576564096The rest of Deltarune>>576564109>lore explanationsNoelle crying about how her life is so hard is not "lore" and I do not care.
>>5765641377 and 7b are going to be shadowdropped without fanfare shortly after 6 drops and the steam announcement will simply read "FINALLY" in all caps, have no thumbnail, and no description.
>>576564095so he's like Mettaton?
Spamton should be eaten whole
>>576564137DON'T TAKE THE DEAL DUSTER
Cute!
>>576564268>Noelle crying about how her life is so hard is not "lore" and I do not care.You should be more empathetic.
Guys, Toby's characters are hardly "original" in the sense you're worried about either. Spamton is just one of a whole family of evil corrupted Pinocchios, for example. Just write your stories.
>>576564175This is the only Jarona pic I have, I'll add some more though. Forgive me Gasty I'm just a humble Tennagooner
>>576563946The knight needed to gain time by forcing Kris to close a second fountain so that they could escape with a sleeping Asgore before Susie could catch them in the act.>But why not just whoop everyone again?I think the knight wasn't confident in engaging Flowery.
dads are very importantCAT DAD IS RELEVANT
Fellow retards, we must now answer the most important question in Deltarune...What is the meaning of the corn?
>>576563996this is the length of weird content relative to itself. not to the rest of the game. in that context we're still at 0 unique fights unless you want to count solo neo i think, 0 x 2 is still 0. granted there will be unique fights in 7b obviously since the progress thing said as much, but still.
We love Aqua here We love Orange hereWe like Flowery hereOnly *I* love Yellow here
>>576564462(asked for corn reasons)
>>576564170if fucking only
>>576564462it's uhhhhhhhhhhh bad for you cause of the Sugars
>>576564395Every time I see her face all I can think is "She looks so stupid" in a good way.
>>576564486Debunked by ch3
>>576564462Big corn is trying to distract you from the tomato.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrp39d9ZFtE
>>576564462Toby likes corn.
>>576564409SeedRT is quite good
>>576564395Its crazy that there is ZERO princess Susie porn
How could flowery say this?
Deltarune will have a traditional good ending because if a good ending is +100 and a bad ending is -100 the bad ending actually becomes -200 relative to the good endingThink about it
>>576563476We haven't had any new moidslut pics in soooo long... if we don't get any new pics soon I might die according to my doctor...
>>576559874>”My Friends” loved it>”everyone’s experience may very”>resonated deeply with a “few” players>comments on the pacing specifically to “wait till it’s finished”>says he doesn’t look at theories>spends the rest of the discussion being preemptive on how said theories are gonna be wrongToby knows EXACTLY how people took this chapter. He’s a good talker but he’s talking exactly like how a corpo spins a bad sales year.
>>576564175i mostly only have what i've stolen off other people here, but maybe by some miracle you haven't seen these yet..
>>576564629I guess that's true
>>576564395why isn't she a duck
>>576564637>may very>very/v/ is not sending their best
>>576564462If you heat up corn it turns into delicious buttery popcorn. Thus, we must FIREGRAVE a floradinn to get the good ending
>>5765641377B will be finished before they start develop on 7A probably because they want to focus on 7A completely when the time comes
>>576564551if it's supposed to be the whole game's length it doesn't make any sense since 5 is longer than 3
>>576564703more like where are her invisible ray man legsdo you guys EVEN game?
would you?>>576564661I was the first to post about the Flowery doping fetish actually...
Ya'll are missing such peak on Twitter RN, lots of chuds making trannies seethe and kill themselves and creating such peak :)
toby please give us a way to abuse and psychology shatter ralsei he’s too cute and should be hurted
I liked Chapter 5 it was good
>>576564661aaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Onionsan! My Wife!https://www.tumblr.com/snugglesong/824076505645793280
LEAKED FANGAMER MERCH!!!!
>>576564779are you having a stroke
Damn, this thread is already almost done
>>576564462Summer is corn season. That and tomatoes.
>>576564850i think some call it that yea
The Ralsei Exception
>>576564175>People posting fanart of the game's characters means 'derailing'You confuse me
>>576564175flowery lewds soon, his fans just work slow is all. >>576564128Putting stock into Flowery while the chips are down! Clever.
For the fillter faggots
M-my king...!?
>>576564765ah, i see.... i kneel....>would you?i WOULD>>576564940HOLY SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX>>576564128i believe...
Post only your biggest flowers
>>576564004Some people like to play games, if you can believe that.
>>576564847Fuck yes
>>576564095Post a pic of him
>>576565012This BIG enough for you??
NOELLEDO YOU SEETHAT FAGGOT?PUT THEMON ICE
>>576559106Tbh, even after all the theory posting and schizoing out on whatever connections i hallucinate, I still don't know what DELTARUNE is.So I think I'm in the clear on this
what a predictable creature
No one's even making fun of my art anymore:(
>>576565012not certain i can...
>>576565018Weird routefags are almost exclusively VNfags so they don't care about the game being a game
>>576565069I'm glad Gaster will never appear in or be relevant to Deltarune because he would be nothing like the eccentric foul mouthed racist version of Gaster in all the memes
>>576564486>in that context we're still at 0 unique fights unless you want to count solo neo i thinkwhy don't you give the shadow mantle to kris and do the knight battle kris solo?
>>576565012Well... there is THAT picture of Flowery made by a certain anon... who has really amazing art...
Do you guys think Chapter 6 will force us to party with Carol
>>576565012someone post the obese flowery
>>576565250Kris isn't drawn like that...
>>576565250That doesnt look like Kris at all though lmao
C'mon, Gorey...
Been lurking on and off since chapter 1 and I kind of miss how new the discussion around Ralsei felt. I've been obsessing over this little guy since DAY 1 and I feel like his character has only gotten more interesting as the game went on. Some of the headcanons I used to have for him even turned out to be true. Some of us used to write about how Ralsei wishes he could be in the light world, and how he feels insecure in himself even back during chapter 1.And as someone who would do anything but kill to hug him Toby has been feeding me like a disgusting pig. Maybe the discussion will come back once the full game is out, but I feel kind of sad knowing that a whole group of people just like me finding this character at the same time might not happen again.
>>576565159I'm a VNGOD and I prefer the normal route precisely because of the lack of new gameplay in the WR
>>576565243X-slash fight not a self imposed challenge
>>576565306UWAAAAAAHH SEEEEEXXXXX
>>576565012screw flowery, where are the obese Deltarune Oranges???
>>576565012>>576565280
I've hit a landmine dude, pure gems. I'm going to share them all tomorrow, you're stuck here with me now hahahahahahahahhahahaha, you can't ban what can't be banned
>>576565274no because i wont get what i want
>>576562871>Toby’s in-group was brought to tears by ch5>he gonna make more of the same
>>576565247>>576565280may i see it?
>>576565440>screw floweryMany are wishing for this...
>>576565440
>>576565371I turned out to be right since the chapter 1 days of his talk of serving lighteners being the only thing that makes him happy being very questionable for his mental state.
>>576565478Good I hope more chapter 5 haters get filtered, you guys suck ass
>>576565250Kris a 5'0" themlet with long hair who is barely alive
>>576565497This one >>576565457
>>576562775>I think it was the perfect spot to do it one more timePersonally I think it's weird, that in chapter 3, there's this whole thing about Susie enjoying Tenna's adventures until they start to get old and she realizes she has to move on and deal with more serious issues. And then two chapters later we uncritically and unironically put the serious issues on hold so we can have one more goofy adventure. Especially with chapter 4 getting more serious and kinda breaking the usual pattern it seems weird to return to form. I liked chapter 5 but it seems like an odd choice.Thematically I think chapter 5 just does chapter 3 but worse in some cases. Kris being unresponsive while Tenna rambles about the good old days felt like a more elegant way to do characterization with a silent protagonist than the similarly past-obsessed Asgore just, monologuing his character arc at Kris at the end.
>The speculative art, stories, and theories that you come up with while the game is still ongoing will forever be special, because this is the only time such things can EVER be created. All of you are creating a time capsule unique to this single fleeting moment in time, and I think that’s something to be incredibly proud of. Isn’t it great that you’re here right now, playing this thing as it comes out?I think it's lovely that Toby grew to love the process of watching Deltarune's fandom unfold and grow as it went along.The experience of playing the game all at once and being here will be like nothing else. Perhaps we could say, we're experiencing... History in the making.
i want him to lose all his money and have nothing
never trust a man who didn't like Flowery
>weird route relevance confirmed>dessknight personally debunked by tobythis is my favorite day ever
>>576565543kris already got their wish to become a monster cause they're a revenant
god I wish Toby wasn't so good at edging us
>>576565530Can’t wait for your TADC wet fart ending you waited 10 years to see.
>>576565012Uee hee hee, okay!https://litter.catbox.moe/av9u6xl95vidwyta.jpg
Jaronid!
>>576565601Perhaps watching the all the shit in the fandom unfold was....his deltarune
>>576565710obsessed
>>576558919Just a peek because it’s still very messy and I gotta refine a ton of it. Ideally, I’d like to put this to a big canvas and do a full effort paint, but it could easily be a good digital paint too. I just know an oil paint that size will take some doing. Maybe I’ll do both, since oil will take probably more than a few days to do something detailed and big.
>>576565692a little bee going from pee to pee (four)
Why didn't Toby credit Miku as a guest creator?
>>576565710>C-CANT WAIT FOR THE ENDING TO BE BAD!lol go back to /v/ you loser, chapter 5 chads actually like video games.
>>576565762Holidays...
>>576565371CH1 era Ralsei art and discussion just had a different vibe.
>>576565459I wish chara would do that to me...
>>576565648>dessknight personally debunked by tobyzero reading literacy so it's not surprising you don't like dess knight
berdly 0% success rate with women 1000% success rate with nonbinary take notes
Flowery?Sex with?https://bsky.app/profile/nihilean.itch.io/post/3msejbyyxps2v
>>576563160Finishing 7A and 7B will be a prerequisite to get the true ending where we fight Toby himself as the final boss during the game's end credits' bullet hell sequence.
>>576565851>says people don't have all the info and their theories may be wrong>the NUMBER ONE big theory in DT community is dessknight1+1=2
>>576565830god i miss black ralsei fanart being prevalent, these pics have such a comfy vibe that couldnt be replicated nowadays
>>576565725Its funny, I dont like loli shit at all but Aqua being drawn as an off model shortstack with absurdly huge tits and/or a massive fat ass does wonders for her appeal.
>>576565457OOOOOOOOOH IM DRY IM FUCKING DRY I still keep cumming to this art daily it’s genuinely a huge distraction. This is the sexiest piece of fanart I’ve ever made I LITERALLY CANT STOP cooming ahg i love human men
>>576565762It looks beautiful already, i love their serene faces
>One of the last big scrimblos in the game is also one of the best.They say save the best for last.
>>576565921Yes, because that's exactly what he's saying. He's saying that EXACT THING is incorrect, even though it's a blanket statement and could be applied to literally anything.When they throw out a net to catch fish, are they fishing for one?
>>576565776You joke but it is funny seeing how often people forget miku is no different then mickey mouse. People get so caught up in the "IS THAT HASUNE MIKU!!!!!" meme they generally forget they're getting hype about a software mascot.
>>576565912near a tomato except you have to fight another player instead of being assisted
Is that a hole in her hand????? hmmmm..........
>>576565921he was vagueposting dumbass, he said nothing except that some people will be wrong. that you think this is some specific confirmation of your own theory is delusional.
>>576566031yes? why would you throw out a net and not want to catch a fish
>>576561084It's my 2nd favorite behind chapter 4.
>>576565528Me and all of the Ralseifrens were TAPPED THE FUCK IN to what Toby was going for with Ralsei. I used to love writing really corny and romantic greens and stories about Ralsei finding more out about himself, being there for him, getting closer to him. We knew that Ralsei had to think for himself in order to be truly happy and fulfilled and that paradoxically involves becoming independent from other peoples' approval. I really identified with that on a personal level at the time and it only got stronger and stronger and stronger with each chapter.>>576565830He's beautiful and always has been, chapter 1 was just so new and fresh at the time and people were just beginning to fall for Ralsei.The love and connection that someone can feel towards a fictional character is something special. Toby for sure has something good planned for his character. For people like me.
>>576565710>TADC out of nowhere
>DeltaCHADS are on a stimmies high because of new breadcrumbs and update reports>Literally EVERYONE is making fun of 3HRT 2 for 80 bucks as Shitendo's big summer game Abib must really be going through it right now lmao
>>576565478he could double down on literally everything I hated about Chapter 5, give us the most unsatisfying ending possible and spend the last 20 hours of the game shoving the most insufferable genderfaggotry and yurislop from the ghost of Tumblr's past down our throats, and I'd still stick around to see the ending anyway because something something 10+ years of sunk-cost fallacyand as >>576565601 reposted, slowly experiencing Deltarune's ending with the rest of the fandom is part of the fun just like Homestuck, even if I have to share it with people who actually liked Ch5 :')
>>5765610844chan hates playing video games so it makes sense the chapter with the best gameplay would make them mad. Also Suselle made a lot of schizos very upset.
My Noelle and Holiday stocks are looking good... very good.
>>576565921>I had a different expectation about how certain info would be interpreted or combined.Do you genuinely think he didn't expect people to see the mysterious antlered character and connect it to the other mysterious antlered character? And if so, why are you playing this game if you believe that the writer is braindead retarded?
>>576566127you're using so many buzzwords i don't know what the fuck you're talking about
I just hope the ending of Deltarune doesn't turn into a paper trail 2.0 ending.
>>576566127I understood ALL of this
>>576566127>3HRT 2What? Can someone translate this into non-retard.
>>576566127what the fuck is 3HRT 2 there are no Google results for that
>>576565979As a flower, Aqua doesn't quite understand that little girls aren't supposed to have three eyes and massive jiggling shelf asses, and that's a good thing!
>>576566127What?
>>576566085>Me and all of the Ralseifrens were TAPPED THE FUCK IN to what Toby was going for with Ralsei.I was out there jumping and clapping when in chapter 3 they finally confirmed that he was sadder and more uncertain (especially about himself) than he let on after YEARS of the ch2 era fandom completely overlooking him.
>>576566175>why are you playing this game if you believe that the writer is braindead retarded?it's a game i don't expect amazing 10/10 story, i expect good gameplay and that's what i get
>>5765662473Half Rife Three 2
>>576564730>muh /v/ ruining my wholesome comfort game As weak a scapegoat as the people using img_friend before Toby’s own patch made them set a new goal post.
>>576565981i suspect this is untrue
>>576566127how do you type out drivel like this and expect it to be a legible sentence
>>576565981>humanthat’s a FILTHY FLOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Chapter 5 was a really fun chapter, and with that last big burst of craziness out of the way, I’m sure everybody is eager for DELTARUNE to start directly tackling the main mysteries of the game. Me too!>With Chapter 5, we completed the last of the necessary setup for Chapter 6 and 7. From Chapter 6 onward, there are no more wacky silly adventures, and you will begin to see the results of the setup that has been made so far.>Chapter 6 is a shorter, straightforward chapter that focuses on one aspect of the story. Because of that, many things are still not touched on here – in fact, it may surprise you what was missing! But one thing will be clarified, whether you’re ready or not.>Some of you may say “Wait! You need to make the chapters longer, not shorter!” That’s an extremely reasonable concern, but... by the end of Chapter 7 I’m 100% sure you’ll understand why I feel confident about the way I’m telling this story. Don’t worry about the pacing until it’s over!will tricky tonias be redeemed
>>576566053its her nose retard
>>5765662566HRT, Maddie's favorite!
you can’t keep a black goat down
>>576566320>so stupid he doesn't understand the post he's replying atESL /v/-kun...
>>576566301If Toby was as stupid as you think he is, the story would be so bad that it would become actively detrimental to the gameplay
>>576566269Do you wonder if Aqua started off as naked like Orange because she didn't know humans were supposed to wear clothes and Seth had to quickly throw her blue dress at her?
big day for doe
>Kris... don't you have anything better to d-AHNNN~>MMMMMMMMMmmm... mmmph...
>>576566085I appreciate the purity of your sincere love for Ralsei this is something to be cherished
>>576566324I’m dead serious.
>>576566127>3HRTI feel like I’m the only one that knows that’s Fire Emblem (I hate modern FE)
>>576559786yeah it felt kinda forced, but read all of tennas voice as steve harvey and its funnier
>>576566352>Because of that, many things are still not touched on here – in fact, it may surprise you what was missing!If chapter 6 ends with zero knight information I think a decent chunk of loretubers will kill themselves.
>>576566352toby is gonna rush the fuck out of the game
Oh man, it's almost midnight... goodnight friends!
>>576565981I'm practicing art basics right now and I hope I can get to the point where I can goon to my own stuff. Great art as always!!
>>576565830everything about Chapter 1-era fanart and discussion feels like a magical time capsule in hindsight and the only chapter that's even come close to recapturing those feelings for me is 4. We can only hope that 6 leans closer to it than 5 and that Toby won't completely fucking botch Ralsei's arc in the process
>>576566167we'll win. It's how we're wired
>>576566481niggas in here don't know about nammy terrorizing /feg/, no wonder they think the local "threadshitters" are bad
>>576566512That's exactly what loretubers would adore though. Imagine giving them one more waiting cycle to milk the shit out of their crusty ass theories
>>576566290I was genuinely depressed for a solid month after playing chapter 4 because it confirmed almost everything I had personally theorized about Ralsei from the very beginning which were all based in insecurities I saw in myself.Careful what you wish for.>>576566432I appreciate the kind words anon. He's genuinely, truly special to me. Maybe one day I can actually create a character that makes me feel a similar way.
>>576566584chapter 1 discussion sucked ass, it was way too much HOW DOES CHARA FIT IN
I get off on the control I have over kris
I was wrong.The dream never happened.My agendas weren't tobycore enough.I hadn't changed.I had simply gotten carried away.There's nothing new.There's nothing new.There's nothing new.Because a theorist is just a theorist.
>>576565830Chapter 1 era art in general had something of a quaint feeling, like it was all something new we were just starting to step into
>>576566626purple guy knight will be vindicated
>>576566481I remember 2 or 3 schizos trying to push that and "engayge" as buzzwords but only those guys ever used it.
>>576566542Nite nite!
>>576560107he looks like Parappa's friend from the anime
>Toby was bullied by his brother for watching animeThat explains why now he can't make anime references without them feeling they are in bad faith
>>576565981You’re lucky you can masturbate to your own art
>>576566145Oh of course grab the marshmallows and watch the bonfire. We get to see if Tricky Tony’s fever dream will just be a Hussie 2.0
It is time to go to bed
If chapter 6 is going to be so small why not just wait and release it at the same time as 7?
>>576566795did she shove it between her asscheeks or what
>>576566435Oh my bad I didn't read 'made' and wasn't aware of your game. That's beautiful then I'm happy for you.
pingastale and pingasrune are coming out tomorrow
>>576565803>>576565990I’m glad it’s coming across well already. It’s definitely going to be cut off, but they’re all held close by Carol with wings that lift and wrap around them protectively as she flies them away.“ I saw my life branching out before me like a green fig-tree.From the tip of every branch, like a fat purple fig, a wonderful future beckoned and winked. One fig was a husband and a happy home and children, and another fig was a [powerful mayor]…and beyond and above these figs were many more figs I couldn’t quite make out.I saw myself sitting in the crotch of this fig-tree, starving to death, just because I couldn’t make up my mind which of the figs I would choose. I wanted each and every one of them, but choosing one meant losing all the rest, and, as I sat there, unable to decide, the figs began to wrinkle and go black, and, one by one, they plopped to the ground at my feet.”
>>576566835That's her pocket you idiot
>>576566392>he doesn’t know
>>576566584>>576566657There was so much good art, so many great discussions had. So many people we connected with over genuine love we had for this game. I made some very close friendships that would not have happened if we both didn't share very deep feelings about this game and the discourse around it.It's still out there. The ride's not over yet. More people may have jumped on, but it's still there. And the people who love it will make their own creations and we might connect with those too.
>>576563491https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQunC9jniqw
>>576566835Noelle's practicing for the vore she'll do to Kris, Susie and Catti
>>576566594ugly potato guy spammer might as well be nam junior
>>576566903
>>576566575>>576566787Nta i'll do it to the literal shittiest doodles just level up your masturbation game anons
>>576566701Matt Major's gijinka
>>576566773I remember when people tried to gaslight me into thinking that Toby didn't watch anime.
>>576566404They probably just materialized in the dark world with all their clothes on, but I think Aqua wouldn't see anything wrong with walking around completely naked if it were up to her
>>576566903nature's pocket
>basically confirming that we're not getting any new charactersman I miss after chapter 2 when we all thought that every new chapter would have more lightner party members, I want to play 7 chapters worth of THAT deltarune
>>576566352i just got back where the fuck is this coming from
>>576566878Lovely. It’s really nice seeing my suggestion take life like this!
>>576566657Seam and Jevil used to be such good friends, until… it… happened. On that day… it was so horrible, so horrible that it can’t even be mentioned… the awful thing that happened…
>>576566952I have a cooler nickname than that.
THIS PICTURE MUST MEAN DUNK TANK GUY IS IMPORTANT
MORE CH1 ERA ART
>Chapter 1: 2 shops>Chapter 2: 3 shops>Chapter 3: 0 shops>Chapter 4: 0 shops>Chapter 5: 1 shopOne of the saddest examples of the game losing SOVL after Chapter 2, up there with not being able to place the Eggs anywhere anymore.
>>576567040newsletter
>>576566803Toby really really wants to edge the players
>>576549830
>>5765669751. Her hand isn't going back far enough2. She's a cartoon character
>>576566952doomshart doesn't have it in him to AI generate thousands of images of the ugly guy with his arms and legs cut off getting raped by spiders/orcs/being shit on
>>576566994Toby HATES jrpgs like Lufia and Lunar
>>576567036>>basically confirming that we're not getting any new characterstoby only mentioned DARKNER characters, we're gonna get new lightner characters
Whenever I am nice to other artists or compliment their art I feel like some sick perverse creature who's psychically molesting them just by being in their presence. Does everyone feel this way or just me
>>576566919Beautiful ruminition anon
>>576567089don't care kys
>>576567107Did you mean to type shop art but get too mad to finish
>>576567059Forgot the image… the image of the two of them, before… the event… the event that changed everything… the event that was so terrible that… oh, I cannot even begin to talk about it…
>>576565981out of all the crazy art you have made you get off the most to flowery just being fat and smiling? painter what?
>>576567106
>>576567139As an artist I am also a sick perverse creature so you’re in good company
>>576567036>basically confirming that we're not getting any new charactersthis is not what he said. the characters are just going to be more serious from now on and not just goofy sexymen.
I wish some sick perverse creature would molest my art with compliments....
>>576567139I’m addicted to your attention, not on me, but on my art. So I guess I’m a sick perverse creature, too.
>>576567126cuuute gif
>>576567197Seam said this
Are you guys going to buy the Queen plush after years of whining about there being no Queen plush?
>>576566121No? Big indie media piece that builds up hype from fans with speculation and theories that has a rushed ending and leaves a lot hanging? Seems like pretty simple literary connection there not sure how you can’t see that.>ch5 glazerOh right…
>>576567208I love chapter 1!!!!
>>576566773I'm pretty sure Toby's brother(s) is the reason Toby knew about these niche Japanese games & Touhou at a young age.
>>576567302Fuck no, he doesn’t get any money from me until I can have official Noelle merch. Eat shit, Tobias.
>>576567203Not painter and not my kink either but sometimes the lewdest stuff isn't made to seem lewd. Like clothed characters vs them naked kind of deal
>>576567197I used to have this shit saved as my wallpaper in 2018, Jevil even influenced my first and one of main OCs.
my baby
>>576567312why are chapter 5 haters all so dumb and mentally ill
youre actions......LE DONT MATTER...
>>576567139Weirdly common experience.I get this feeling purely out of envy. I went most of my young life completely creatively bankrupt and just now trying to become an artist. It feels like there's an imbalance in the relationship between the artist and the people who consume their art but it's really really not that simple.We all want to express ourselves at the end of the day.
>>576566053>>576566382The bravery gloves in the Omega Flowey fight already had holes in their hands so this wouldn't have been implying anything more than we already knew even if it wasn't just her nose (which it is)
>>576567036If chapter 2 had just Noelle maybe it wouldntve been so bad, but he really fucked up putting Berdly in there too just for the hell of it. Noelle was at least clearly important from the get go, giving Berdly spotlight too is what cemented the idea that he would give even more sidecharacters time in the light. Berdly literally only exists in chaper 2 to>A. Make jokes about how much everyone doesnt like him, including the villain he's working for>B. Give the player a crime to commit in weird routeThats it. He meant nothing beyond this chapter, and the side effects of not thinking that through completely destroyed the expectations for the future
>>576567302Yes, both because I've wanted one for a long time and also to spite this >>576567374 doetard specifically
>>576567374you can buy the pin set and the chapter 2 poster where she has a slight cameo and that's it no important lightner merch :)
>>576567254Realistically we're not getting any more notable plot-relevant characters like the darkner bosses (+ old man) other than whoever the Knight actually turns out to be and whoever the mantle holder that antagonizes Kris in chapter 3 and commands the FRIEND cats turns out to be. There will be new enemy designs and probably minor trashy/milklooker esque NPCs though
>>576567302there's no king plushie is there?maybe, probably not, she's cool but not that coolI've got seam, jevil, and spamton
>>576567203My dark secret is I get off the most to fantasizing about a needy fat man forcing cuddles on me and dry humpingI’m sorry the mask of ungodly evil had to come off this way.
i love ch1, it had so many good parts like>jevil>>>>and so much more!
>>576567282Why are her legs so long?
>>576567521speedrun strat
>>576567429based lol>>576567374cringe lol
I am quite fond of this ̶m̶o̶u̶s̶e̶ human.
>>576566994That was mostly me trying to generate enough karmic backlash to make chapter 5 anime-themed
>>576567410comes with the territory of being a hmofa shitter
>>576567491what abouuuuuuut k round annnnnnnnnd seam annnndnddddddd uhhhhhh
>>576567475Not that anon but I agree that's pretty hot
>>576561084Some people like narrative skill.Some people like jingling keys.
Ralsei and Flowery are clearly exes, why do you think they broke up?
ERAMfags will be so btfo’d
>>576567491Oh shit anon your pen ran out of ink, lemme help you out>Jevil>Lancer>Susie at her peak (And as well her interactions WITH Lancer)>Rouxls>Being able to see the UT cast if they lived in times of peace instead of war
>>576566626ok you're not completely wrong since I remember the threads drying up again like a week after release, but that Halloween when SURVEY_PROGRAM dropped fucking ruled, to the point where it made me (and many others) genuinely care about Undertale again instead of brushing it off as a cringy middle school obsession. I hate to say that you had to be there to appreciate it, but you had to be there>>576566919even with my distaste for Chapter 5, I keep naively thinking that I should use my crippling autism for these games to actually do something productive instead of passively reading insane /utg/ fujoposts for another few years, now that we're slowly approaching the end of all this. Obviously I'm not going to do anything with it, but it's bittersweet to reflect on
>>576567581she could not hand an average human pingus
>>576567475painter cute…
this is me
Berdley will never be relevant again. We won
>>576567491There are people who unironically think Ch1 is bad
>>576567676Why are you replying to me like you're under the impression I wasn't here when Survey Program dropped out of nowhere, I assume most of us were here for that. That part ruled and the experience of chapter 1 was incredible, but the discussion it generated was not very good.
>>576567374That's stupid.
>>576567672Adding my personal opinion that a fairytale, medieval dark-world kingdom based on the four card suits is very neat and appealed to me strongly
Frisk, don't you have anything better to do, like trap my girlfriend in a dark world, forcing me to go off to college, talking to forgotten egg men, and/or losing your arm?
>>576567572The worst thing about getting into drawing is that I can draw my own porn, but it doesn't compare to any of the stuff I see, so everytime I find a hot pic like this, I wanna draw it with my own OCs, but it looks like shit, but sometimes it's good enough fo rme.
>>576567731Thank fuck for that.
>>576567672chapter 1 Susie was CRINGERemember that part where she fucking laughs like a retard threatening to bite Lancer's face off, holy fuck what a smelly homeless loser.
>>576566017>faveless for 11 years>chapter 5 introduces fave>no more silly characters to come after this so fave will be locked in for the rest of UTDR's existence Feels good? I think.
>>576567581I wish they had like, an actual fucking reason in universe for her to be a rat instead of a human. Its literally only that way so they can make the joke of a cat seeing a mouse as a sibling, but there's no quirky in universe reason for this contradiction. Orange just, insists shes human when shes choosing not to look like one
>>576563281>>576563118that reminds me, if toby fox were to do any more dialog gimmicks, changing the style (and font) of the textbox to the textbox that RPG Maker uses would be a perfect fit...
>>576567672lancer and susie are both at their worst in ch1rouxls is fine but he's funnier in other chaptersyou get to see that in the other chapters too
Ramb can still be relevant because he's a returning character from chapter 3 and not a new one by the way. Never lose faith, RambGODS.
>>576567937>>576567937>>576567937maus
>>576567836You can use hot art to imitate posing and try it with your own characters, it helps and its fun to make your own lewd art.>>576567883Did you not read the newsletter, Toby spells it out for you.
>>576567905>lancer is at his worst in chapter 1I will rape you i will rape your mother I will rape your sister your father and your dog
>>576567883bro
Frisk, don't you have anything better to do, something like go to Fangamer.com and preorder the new Asriel mer-what?I don't have any?O-oh...
>>576567228>>576567281>>576567417I guess we are kindred creatures in this world after all... Thanks anons>I get this feeling purely out of envyI don't think it comes from envy for me too much although I do think other people are generally better artists than me and assume everyone I interact with is looking down on me in a general sense and probably also disgusted as well when they have to interact with me. Although, I feel purely nice things when other people say nice things about my art, and I really do like artists heres art, so I try to think its all in my head and treat others how I like to be treated..>>576567267I WOULD IF YOU WOULD FUCKING POST SOME!!!!! UNLESS YOU DID AND I WASNT AWAKE, OR OTHERWISE AREN'T WHO I THINK YOU ARE!!! IN WHICH CASE MY APOLOGIES!!!
>>576567883Orange chooses to look like a mouse because she heavily lacks information on what humans are supposed to look like, so she chose a mouse (because she thinks humans can look like mice). Other flowers are shown to have done similar mistakes, take Aqua having only one eye for example.
>>576567883the answer is to "why do the flowers look/act like that, are they stupid?" is yes
>>576567883as per the newsletter, Orange is a mouse to make it very obvious to the player that the flowers don't have a good understanding of human behavior
>>576567671>still doubting the most important character in deltaruneyou will not make it to chapter 7
>>576567858Yeah and its peak because she has Lancer to immediately bounce off of her, if everyone was just cowering in fear of her itd suck but its fun to see the bully relying on death threats get completely brushed off and then admired for it>>576567952>Did you not read the newsletterUnironically, no I havent I just got in this thread. Even then, whatever the reason it should be stated in game not in a newsletter
>>576559703I was fully expecting it to be nice and big when I saw it get teased in 5 but now that it's revealed how big it actually is, is starting to worrying me a bit
>>576567701*fills every orifice of your body with tennapillars who’s leaky bloody anal prolapses are 3x longer than their bodies**and spits on you*
>>576568039If you didnt get it I question your reading comprehension, do not reply to me anymore please.
Where bread?
>>576568061Uwa~ Painter tsundere~
>>576568128updog
>>576567759>I assume most of us were here for thatanon I figured half of the people in these threads were newfags that weren't even around for the Ch2 drought era of Spamtotems and Tangy and Kris rape fics and that one Rouxlsfag who apparently got cancer. I'm old and witheringalso I don't even fully disagree with you about post-Ch1 discussion being questionable, I think I'm still just chasing a high I felt almost 8 years ago now
>>576568128>>576567943rite here kid
>>576565981painter dono...they told me artists can't cum to their own drawings...
I’m not cute. I’m scary.
>>576568360Orange...
>>576566985>Matt MajorWhat the fuck he does look like Flowery a bit but this wiki stuff freaked me outhttps://parappatherapper.fandom.com/wiki/Matt_Major>Starting in season 2 of the anime, Matt has a running gag where he will pull out a cellphone and report the current situation or his feelings on the matter to an unknown person. This is even acknowledged in episode 27, "Nice Flavor Today", where Paula questions who he's even reporting to.>To add onto the gag, he is equipped with a different cellphone every episode, of which can be themed to the episode, such as in episode 26, "I'm Sure I'll Have Muscular Pain Tomorrow", where he has a hockey stick cellphone.>Another gag that began in season 2 is one where he attempts to take off manhole covers out of frustration>Both of his gags are combined in the beginning of episode 29, when he mentions manhole covers while talking on the phone.>MANHOLE covers (Sword Route) and reporting information to an unknown contact on the phone
>>576567410Look I understand that this is probably all you have but there are better things out there anon. You don’t have to die on this hill.
>>576567676I always, always knew that Undertale and Deltarune by extension were special when I played them, it made me reflect on myself and that's the highest accomplishment I think any work of art can do to someone.It made me realize how hollow my life was without being creative, and how much I wanted to bring people together with art. It seemed nice at the time. You don't wanna wake up and realize that dream is too far out of reach.>>576567759You are 100% right and I wouldn't be surprised that not many people remember it. There were plenty of super comfy threads but for every 1 thread like that there were like, 100 threads where people just got angry and complained about completely retarded shit. It goes in cycles. Some periods had personalities that were nicer or funnier than others.EEE poster come back to us..................
>>576567475I'm Painters ideal man. This is probably a bad thing.
https://deltarune.com/chapter5/
>>576570476https://youtu.be/J-LE4QldsDY
