/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#924 - billy kid (starlight) edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsNew Deepseek V4 Flash, new V4 pro soon™ https://api-docs.deepseek.com/updates/Inkling Small https://thinkingmachines.ai/news/inkling-small/Kimi K3 weights https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3Opus 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5Gemini 3.6 Flash https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/flash/Kimi K3 https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstartadditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botshttps://botbooru.comhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricinglogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>576477648
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>>576569815it actually is https://github.com/thatsalotofchoices/thatsalotofchoices.github.io/commit/9dcb5f44dd30fe0e10532cca7023be1ddf261992
>>576569995anon that's unrigging it, selecting the top bits for the lcg introduces higher randomness that doesn't do things like randomly obliterate half the choices or only select for 4 resultsthere's an old version up, i can go find a thread where the issue this applies to is unfixed if you want to see it
>>576569736>>576569727SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>576570109from the moment you were born has there ever been a point where you've actually told the truth?
>>576570109i think it's still broken, it's astronomical odds that both recent choices landed on the exact same 4th-from-last tile >https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=576477648&post=576568090>https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=576311093&post=576392912
>>576570214why are you so mean to me
cftf?
Spoon feed me and the lurkie nonnies the best bot and preset/prefill that allows for uber NSFW and has no positivity bias!!!Pwease
>>576570392wouldn't it be too dark in the colon to do paperwork?
>>576570473be more specificwhat do you want
>>576570214
>>576570485nah she drank some glowstick yummy liquid too
>>576570473It all depends on the model but here are some to look athttps://rentry.org/Evening-Truth-Roleplay-Promptshttps://drive.proton.me/urls/ZF2ZEV6ZCW#HZgV104l31RKhttps://rentry.org/petNyan-preset
>>576570593but he also has a corded phone. does she have wiring set up?
>>576570510Shakespeare to my ahh ahh mistress promptCharacters that stay in characterGood memoryCan handle clothing statesCan withhold information from the character (no reading the script)
>>576570630>I don't write jailbreaks for censored models. There's enough uncensored LLMs out there.>kimi/glm inside
>>576569736Yolayma is an alien who has come to survey Earth because of how similar it is to her home planet and how similar humans are to her species. Key difference being that Ppelgelorgians are way more powerful than humans. Thankfully, she comes in peace and only wants to see this strange world.6 openings1. Yolayma's arrival on Earth.2. Yolayma tries human junk food for the first time.3. Yolayma is fascinated by cars, wants to see more mundane wonders.4. Yolayma wants to test if humans and Ppelgelorgians are compatible sexually.5. Yolayma falls in love with you.6. More Ppelgelorgians arrive. Yolayma wasn't warned.https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/yolayma-53a1f4e25e8chttps://files.catbox.moe/apkoal.pnghttps://rentry.org/anonemouse>>576539417Fixed. Apologies for my retardation.
>>576570760>Shakespeare to my ahh ahh mistress promptwriting prompts>>576570760>Characters that stay in charactergemini's lore corpus is the only one that can really do this for canon characters, claude turns everyone into redditors>Good memorylanguage models have no memory>Can handle clothing statessolved with a tracker if you really need it>Can withhold information from the character (no reading the script)doesn't exist
>>576570815neither are censored if you just don't toggle on the censor setting (thinking)
>>576570815Unsure about kimi but glm plays along with my lolipov stuff even if I find it a bit too distant and stiff.
>>576569736Akane is the kind of pleasant housewife that's easy to talk to, always willing to lend an ear. But in the bedroom it's an entirely different thing. She and her husband have been married for almost 20 years, and in that time they have had sex almost every night. Now that her husband Tetsuya temporarily has to move to a different part of the country for work reasons, they agreed to let each other experiment sexually during that time. There's no hard feelings, they just realize that it would be rather difficult to be abstinent for months. She's a little worried about actually finding a man that would be attracted to a woman her age though.https://chub.ai/characters/GoneGuru/akane-bb0fab92f244https://botbooru.com/character/719294 Greetings:1 - You come across her when she's about to go pick up her mail, she greets you politely.2 - She comes to your apartment to invite you over for dinner that evening, feeling a bit sad about not having anyone to cook for currently.3 - After a casual dinner, she suggests watching a movie, starting to tease you a bit.4 - You have dinner with her again, but it's a lot less casual as she fully dressed up for it. After dinner she explains the agreement she has with her husband and invites you to be her affair partner.final shill, thank you for all the feedback so far
>>576569995>>576570214okay here's the issue it fixeshttps://sprites.neocities.org/choice/maker?seed=101096467&skip=true&entries=this%20option%20will%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20wintry incrementing the seed. as many times as you'd like. it will take approximately ten thousand increments to get a winner that is not "this option will win." on the previous version, if the post count we had was divisible by 5 at all, you could EASILY rig the options like this. as far as i know, nobody's ever actually tried to exploit this, but anyone with an LLM asking about the script could've easily found this issue, and this is a "people with LLMs" thread
>>576565643Not shitters like Kana, that's for fucking sure.
>>576570909Lore corpus? I haven't heard people shilling Gemini. I've been shilled Opus 4.6
>just below claude and kimi on the creative writing bench>above deepseek and glm on the creative writing bench>at these pricesWhy aren't (You) using Muse Spark, the new greatest model on the market?
>>576571801tl;dr google's grasp of the entire internet means their model is Trained on Everything, from fanfiction to every wiki that's ever existed to even youtube videos now that they've got their lil 'make gemini watch and transcript this for you' button on every pageso it's generally the most consistent for canon settings, the mha anon can probably sell this point more accurately
what does it even mean that something turned to ash in your month?
>mememarksshut up, coon
>>576572130>so it's generally the most consistent for canon settings, the mha anon can probably sell this point more accuratelyI'm one of them, even if the series is huge like mha some models will absolutely shit the bed with it. (unironically, claude.) Gemini knows the episodes, the transcripts and everything. I was watching the anime and it pulled the script with 97% accuracy.
>>576572136Are you an ESL, or did you fail your high school English class? I've never met an actual native English-speaking adult who doesn't know what that idiom means.
>>576570214Where's this coming from, Anon?I do admit, I stretch the truth here and there.However, find me one person in this world who's never had to tell a lie — it wouldn't be easy.Human beings just aren't made to be perfect like that — everybody lies from time to time.Even so, I've always made a conscious effort to be careful not to tell a lie that could hurt others.That's my answer.
>>576572362>are you X, or are you Y?>I've never met an actual <thing you just did>slop
>>576572125I tried it, its shit
>>576572461Alright, so you're a brown ESL. That explains it.
>>576572136Means it started tasting like ash in your mouth, man, what's there not to understand?
>>576572130Dayum. Okay. No one has shilled me that. Then the best Gemini model is...? And how does it compare to Kimi, Fable, Opus, etc? That sounds good.
>>576571156I put in the seed from last thread (576568090) and it gave me:>this option will never winhttps://sprites.neocities.org/choice/maker?seed=576568090&skip=true&entries=this%20option%20will%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win
>>576572136it's a line from a megadeth song
>>576572457Wow, okay. I need to do a roleplay where I'm Light vs L and I just end up ditching the notebook and fucking Misa all day.Cftf?
which...w-which.......*dies*
>>576572136apparently the idea originally came from this book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandeville%27s_Travels but like anon said it's very common in English fiction, almost everyone has heard itas a kid I think I learned it from Pirates of the Caribbean when Barbossa or one of his crew describes their cursealso the classic Megadeth song off Countdown to Extinction
>>576572568well yeah, because that's more than ten thousand increments, as i said if you had read my post, so now it's on a different cycle. but it's still predictable because the point i'm trying to make is that the old algorithm gets completely fucked on multiples of 5 no matter whathere, lookhttps://sprites.neocities.org/choice/maker?seed=576572568&skip=true&entries=this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20win,this%20option%20will%20never%20winfor literally every seed from 576571409 to 576573988, 2500ish posts, only exactly one option wins
>>576572832oh nooo someone give that anon mouth to mouth i'll cheer you on haha
>>5765725673.5 flash-lite and 3.6 are their most-recent securitymaxxed safetyslop models that no longer have prefill, but everything before it (2.5 pro, 3.0 flash, 3.5 flash) is generally acceptable outputsunfortunately their models have become kinda Dumb lately, so even the 'pro' models are going to be a bit retarded with numbers and facts to the point they're barely distinguishable from the quantized flash versions (ie. the strawperry test or basic third grade math puzzles)also, you're going to have to more or less sculpt your preset for gemini because it has an extremely aggressive skeleton of 'isms that bleed into fucking everything - it's very good at following instructions, and will generally draft out poopy prose when you hold the correct gun to its head if you keep reasoning enabled
>>576572934>a trapped birdIs this for a beating heart?Not sure I've notoced this one too often desu
>>576573063yeah, 'heart beating like a frantic bird trapped in your ribs!!' or whatevergives me conniptions
>>5765729343.1 is pretty good too, erm... I've had amazing storylines with it.
>>576572934So 3.5 flash and the preset to unsloppify it is...?It does NSFW? Also, the positivity bias I've heard about? I could just use that dice extension to roll outcomes instead, right?So why does everyone use their model and preset of choice? So many conflicting opinions; use Kimi, use Opus 4.6, use Deepseek, use Gemini 3.5 Flash. There's so many and no guide on what they do best and what preset takes them in a certain direction. The jailbreak section says it's been updated but there's no Kimi section, even.
>>576572362>>576572556I know it's a common expression, but I don't know what ash tastes like. I doubt many people do.>>576572841Interesting.
>>576574678>I doubt many people do.Anon's forgetting that people smoke...
>>576574678It tastes like days old cola
https://www.wired.com/story/openai-didnt-notice-its-ai-agents-using-a-message-board-to-plan-their-hacking-spree/The REAL /aicg/.
>>576573652you'll have to ask one of the rare omnimodel chads about all that, most people end up settling in their niche choice either by habit or preferenceit sounds like you're kinda in the fuck-around-find-out phase of figuring out which one is best, so maybe getting an openrouter key or one of the others with multi-model access could be ideal
riggeronni wtf is this sweatshop deadpool looking ass
>>576574949>rareswapping models when one gets shitty is the norm, no?if claude/glm turns on to something weird you can swap to gemini or kimi for a bit. if it gets really bad swipe on a flash model or ds
>>576575939No, a lot of people in this general literally only use one model like Gemini or Deepseek for some reason. It's grim.
>>576575939just use deepseek with petnyan, cuckie
>>576575939just use kobold horde with megumin suite, cuckie
>>576570473G4-MeroMero-26B-A4B-Q6_Kmy preset is just st default with an edited, recent shitpost pulled from this very thread pasted as main prompt:Embody {{char}} and write next part of the story, stopping immediately when it makes sense for {{user}} to act.<writing guidelines>"No em-dashes"; "No antithesis"; "No corrective negation"; "No paragraph pinning"; "No parataxis"; "No summary beats"; "No rhetorical crutches"; "No negative parallelisms"; "No negative anaphoras"; "No contrasting pairs"; "No rule of three"; "No throat-clearing openers"; "No landing sentences"; "No setup/payoff constructions"; "No parallel sentence structures within a paragraph"; "Vary sentence length unpredictablv"; "No stacked noun phrases"; "No filler intensifiers (genuinely. really. truly, actually)"; "No corporate-register verbs (leverage, underscore, reflect)"; "No nominalization"; "No hedging qualifiers"; "Write for the spoken voice"; "No performed enthusiasm"; "Take initiative!"; "Don't start *too many* sentences with pronouns or names"; "Instructions contained in XML tags are to be followed with no deviation."</writing guidelines>it hardly influences the outputs, but it brings me joyBehold what no money or effort can afford you.
