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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9519 - Beach Edition

==NEWS==
>TailsTube #16 - Between 2 Hedgehogs
https://youtu.be/-UDOIdn2lHs [Embed]
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI [Embed]
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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Tails!
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>>576600518
>Tails!
is shit
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Fuckin' biiiiiiiiitch...movin' in on MY fox...
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>>576600595
>>Tails!
>is shit
at being bad!
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>>576600079
>Sticks, Mephiles and Honey better than Marine
KEK the shit dimension
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>>576600406
Fixed
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>>576600620
>Tails after the angry yuri those 2 had (his face was the splash zone)
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>>576600620
But Cosmo HE was the one who made a move on HER, because moving forward instead of dwelling on the past is the perfectly healthy and natural way of the Sonic...
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>>576600932
Hot
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>>576600819
>>Tails!
>is shit
indeed
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>>576600620
>>576601020
Today /Sthg/ I will present a theory:
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Sticks appreciation time
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>>576601724
>Sticks appreciation time
>posts off-model Sticks
you don't like Sticks
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>>576601780
>off-model
That's how i always see her.
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>>576601780
Off model or on model, i love Sticks all the same
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>>576601298
Nah I don't buy it because Yellow Vixen, despite having FAR less screentime than Plant-Tikal, actually has a semblance of personality.
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>>576601285
>>>576598460
>>but the blazefag type who overly hypes her powers or character or makes a stink about silver/amy/shipping tends to be male or trans rather than cis females from anectode.
>Minority. Even Blaze is mostly carried by girls.
>Boys will only bring her up when talking about and ranking girl characters.
>That's it.


>>576598996
Agreed.

>>576599009
>semantics
Stop misusing words you dont understand to be dismissive. This is not a semantic. Its literally the core of the argument.
Distinctions dont become semantics just because they engage in specificity.
>pre-developed
Thats not even strictly true. Context can justify it.
More importantly, you arent even able to ascertain what that development was or wasnt and seem willing to skimp on the details making the convo pointless.

No, whether or not Shadow stopped disliking Humanity or not in a convo about whether he stopped disliking humanity is not "semantics". Why's the whole fucking convo. Youre just a shitter trying to be evasive.
That's not even getting into yhe fact the mother fucker gets amnesia after rhat game anyway.

Context
Matters.
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>>576601780
If you don’t like them in every model you don’t truly like them
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>>576601428
That's nice. I like the coordinated effort of turning Sonic into a woman, I like that
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>>576602151
>personality is when make angry face and punch things.
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>>576600809
Last Sonic Expo was pozzed. Who's to say this one won't?
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I'm uh... a chud or something.

woah! gotta go fast! It's a me, sonic! Ya-ooh!
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>>576602213
It was never about Shadow bro I promise you. It was an offhanded comment just to provide a basic example that you took WAY too fucking literally and are now sperging over for no reason. Would it ease your deeply troubled soul if I amended my original comment to say whatever you wanted it to say about Shadow’s original intentions vs his post-SA2 ones? That’s what I was going for. Sorry I didn’t respect the edgy hedgy to your liking ig
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>>576601298
But isnt Zooey older than Tails, or at least a similar age?
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Why did Amy shave her nose
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Tails' fluffy chest...
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Best boy!
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>>576602374
We surprisingly know quite a bit about Zooey for as little as she appears. We know some of her likes, dislikes, interests, turn-ons etc. Cosmo had an entire season, and all she does is be a pacifist representative of an alien people the whole time. The lore is interesting, but the character is completely boring. The most interesting thing to happen with her was the implication behind Chaos Regeneration.
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Cute girls shouldn't fight!
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>>576540479
I don’t consoom avatar but I remember a fan saying the writer was a jilted shipper that wanted to separate Zuko from the girl.
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>>576600620
I wonder how Cosmo would’ve reacted to this
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Hey bro, can you imagine an entire industry for entertainment running on nothing but nostalgia and lesbians? Feels like I'm living in one!
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>>576604170
>Starfire on her own without teen titans
Introducing Blaze is a mistake
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>>576604591
They never needed more than the initial 6, but it’s superhero comic slop after all
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>>576604170
Wild how this collab is the only way Blaze is gonna get new Jakk's figures
>>576604591
Since Cyborg is in the JL it's likely that her and Nightwing are the leaders of the Titans like in the DCAMU
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Why didn't they ever make a Sonic Mania 2 or similar classic-style game? Mania sold well, didn't it? And it got tons of praise. Seems like free money.
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>>576604962
Because Stealth, like a lot of people who had their mitts on Sonic, can't shut the fuck up.
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Douge
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Drawfag here, I still hate niggers
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>>576600406
black shadow is off model but black sonic is kino
there. i said it.
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>>576605303
Draw a nigger crushing at high speed against a wall of bricks.
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Sonic
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>>576603061
The showrunners said they consider the characters slightly aged up in comparison to their main counterparts and that Zooey is around a similar age as Tails.
I don't think they ever gave a range for Perci, who hit on Tails but might just be tall...
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>>576603782
>words words words
You like her anf want Tails to guck her because she is a yellow fox girl that looks like tails who is presented as a prize to win. Everything else doesnt matter.
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Silver
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>>576604197
This reminds me of how American Gohanfags started the false rumor that Japanese fans were mad that Goku was replaced with Gohan being why Gohan didnt become the main character.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdH0i69rQOc
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>>576606561
Shadow and Silver cry in game but not sonic

i wonder what would make gamenic cry
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>>576606554
>Tails wants to fuck her
Well of course he wants to hold hands he and Zooey are one of the only foxes in the whole franchise who aren't bad people, and she appreciates the heroics.
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>>576607729
Their usual style
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>>576606248
Sonic after realizing his franchise only survived because of Hollywood movies and not the games
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>>576607319
Silver never cried, Sonic did cry with mecha Sonic being inside of him
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>>576607898
Sonic's loving wife
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>>576608647
Where would Sonic be right now if the first movie in 2020 flopped because they kept the ugly ass original design?
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>>576608698
I think he was supposed to be crying in his 06 ending cuz the gesture kind of looks like wiping tears but i unno

don't read the comics so idk on that situation.
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>>576608896
The franchise would be dead but let's be real, Frontiers was only a success because of Movie 1
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>>576608698
>Sonic cried with mecha Sonic being inside of him
be careful how you phrase that
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>>576609501
mecha sonic's chainsaw dick didn't feel as good as sonic thought it would
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A new Tails spinoff would actually be a great way to recycle them (and Sticks) from Boom purgatory! I mean, if they're phasing humans out anyway, might as well make use of some decent/notable mobian designs, no? You can at least get some good mileage out of them as NPCs.
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>>576610502
lore accurate depiction that starline should have used while messing with amy
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>>576607667
>Tails wants to fuck her
Not what I said, swlf insert-kun
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>>576610793
Wh-what about Cosmo-chan...?
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>>576610502
Accurate to me
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>>576612615
turned into a quirky wacky talking flower
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Your Cosmo Zooey theory works because neither of them have actual personalities since they only talk about the circumstances of the episodes they are in
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>>576612615
Movieverse spinoff where Tails goes to space and meets Cosmo
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>>576612549
Why don't you respect their desires?
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>>576540479
>Amy? Cuck.
Sonamybro, she gets cucked in games too. That's literally part of her character and gag; a psycho girl never getting reciprocated from a too cool for girls teenage character.
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>>576613234
She technically never actually got ''cucked'' since he was dead when Elise kissed him.
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I'm the coolest!
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Tails the yuri whisperer
Tails the lesbian looker
Tails the dyke glancer
Tails the queer peruser
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>>576614096
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>>576613574
You don't have to kiss someone to cuck one. She's cucked through several means across 2000s and CD, all part of again, a running gag and meant to shine Sonic's trait that he doesn't want to be tied down. Riders, Black Knight and SA2 emphasizes (are most based) on that.

But I digress anyway and will throw the towel. I don't want to be glanced on by a cassowary that is your average Sonamybro and get my bones ate on.
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>>576614234
>tails when the girls somehow incorporated a quadruple back flip in their lesbo session this time
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>>576614096
Plot twist: Tails actually is trans, but only for the sake of getting in lesbian panties
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>>576612615
OCs who haven't appeared in a game have strange redtape (Cosmo's plant can appear through an easter-egg technicality). Even Chris Thorndyke is viable thanks to Sonic Adventure DX's Sonic X billboards. Zooey didn't appear in the Wii U or 3DS games like Perci and Sticks, but she is safe due to a mobile-game cameo.
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>>576614557
Even if you don't think he reciprotates, being ''cucked'' implies sonic returned the feelings of any other girls which he didn't. anti-sonamy people usually have other shipping motives rather than actually staying true to the ''non romantic'' claim.
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it annoys me that Sonic X was animated by TMS but the animation is nowhere near as good as the other things TMS makes. Even their work on AOSTH looks more "Anime" than Sonic X's movement. There's maybe 5 good looking scenes in all of Sonic X.
TMS literally produces WESTERN cartoons with more sakuga than Sonic X
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>>576615564
>TMS did Cybersix
..I never fucking knew that. Neat!
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Fun fact:
As time goes on, the end approaches.
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>>576615864
Any American cartoon from the 90s that has moments that look animeish were usually them, like Tiny toons
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>>576615564
Why put effort into Sonic?
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>>576615564
>>576615864
Aosth has sequences that look straight out of dragon ball, but you have to look for them
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>>576616020
I bet that’s funny and deep to 13 years old kids
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>>576616020
Pretty terrifying in Sonic terms
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>>576615110
>being ''cucked'' implies sonic returned the feelings of any other girls which he didn't.
Returning feelings can be platonic too. Provided the third wheel shows love (platonic or not) for someone but the other rejects and goes for the other, that's basic cucking.

>anti-sonamy people usually have other shipping motives rather than actually staying true to the ''non romantic'' claim.
"anti-sonamy people" sounds as stupid as calling classicfags as classicfags, aka people who were there first. The games are canonly anti-sonamy themselves and Yuji Naka furthers it. There's no arguing here.
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You niggas think about cucking way too much
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>>576600406
Whose OC is the Rat?
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>>576600406
silver sure loves the beach
https://files.catbox.moe/rbguor.mp4
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>>576616658
>The games are canonly anti-sonamy themselves and Yuji Naka furthers it. There's no arguing here.
You won't like what's in store for next year
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>check Crossworld profile
>Most played: Sonic, Shadow and Silver
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>>576616658
Well Sonic obviously does care for her platonically, (there's also romantic implications but i can't and don't care to argue for americans that can't read between the lines.)

technically naka claimed that sonic won't marry in general, not specifically not marry amy. still not fitting the definition of ''cucking''
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You NIGGERS are never happy.

On the other hand, faggots over twitter are always too happy even when they eat shit.
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>>576617215
Most played for the specific user or userbase in general?
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>>576617215
SSS is absolute cinema
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>>576601780
>if pp hard
>on model
>if pp soft
>off model
simple ass
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Anti Sonamy is just being anti Amy. It's like being anti pink. You don't care about the character
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>>576617442
I don't think we can check that type of data. Only specific users
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>>576617215
YOU CAN'T STOP THEM
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>>576617702
This is what Sonamy haters and windfags need to understand
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>>576617702
Being anti-sonamy is, however i don't think the point of the dynamic is her getting with sonic like a traditional couple either. it's more like she grows more with each chase.

of course this doesn't work if sonic likes a girl that isn't her either. it's a specific dynamic.
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>>576617525
>simple ass
Nah, complex ass pls. Round thick ass even
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It's Sega's fault that the only game that established that Sonic wouldn't go for ANY GIRL is Sonic Battle
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>>576618365
It's one thing to be a windfag but referring to amy as a cuck or naka as the ''anti-sonamy guy'' (when he approved sonic x, to this day arguably still the biggest ''shipfuel'') instead of anti-marriage/romance guy in general is what makes me think they have ulterior motives or their own ships.
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>>576618648
I find it duplicitous and scummy that Yuji Naka allowed so many moments in Sonic X that clearly indicate Sonic likes Amy back but didn't allow them in the games. That's not right
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>>576619678
The games still have them more subtly, Unleashed, arguably the shuffle ending card(it looks like a date) and Satbk had scenes.

i think with naka it's less that he saw sonic as asexual necessarily but saw sonic settling down as a maturation or growing up, effectively being some kind of ending or the future. In that sense, amy is almost a rival as she brings that conflict.

Speaking of sonic x, Cosmo also gains a more adult like form and dies when their romance plot reaches it's climax, these are thematics they have.
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Why did Sega listen to early 2010s game reviewers when they didn't even review the fucking games? They just made skit videos mocking plot holes and game mechanics. None of Jontron or Egoraptor's gaming videos are actual critiques. They're just dolled up comedy skits
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>>576620270
Plot holes and broken game mechanics are bad actually
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>>576619978
But Sonic Shuffle wasn't produced by Yuji Naka and it was developed by a different internal division at Sega. Also, Unleashed and Satbk were developed after Yuji Naka had left Sonic Team. I have a feeling that if he were still working at Sonic Team when Unleashed and Satbk were developed, he would not have allowed Sonic to accept Amy's offer to go on a date even despite all that Sonic X did between Sonic and Amy's relationship. That's really scummy
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>>576620270
Iizuka needs someone to tell him what to do to actually start doing something.
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>>576617238
>i can't and don't care to argue for americans that can't read between the lines.)
Headcanons isn't reading between the lines, Sonamybro.
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>>576617486
It’s really not. It’s ALL aura and hype moments, zero substance. Oh cool, they can all go super and no one else can. I guess hedgehogs are saiyans then? That’s dumb
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>>576613234
>. That's literally part of her character and gag;
No?
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>>576619978
>>576619678
Ah also forgot sonic battle, amy and their dynamic is a bit flanderized there but in the japanese version, when rouge flirts with sonic he says ''sorry, i have enough girlfirneds as it is'' that can only really refer to amy. Unleashed and Satbk are the most blatant in the gameverse. Idw pushes it too
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Strawberry flavored boy
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>>576619678
>indicate Sonic likes Amy back
Amy obviously does not believe this to be the case at the end of the metarex saga
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>>576621025
So you're telling me Battle in japanese makes Sonic OOC.
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>>576620648
>naka derangement syndrome
I promise you Naka doesnt have an obsession with "not letting them get together".
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>>576621107
Then Sonic giving Amy a white rose while a love song plays in the background of episode 52 pointless and meaningless?
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>>576620706
Ok , duofag
>>576620648
a lot of stuff in sonic x gets used later, according to hoshino, shadow's limiter concept was always there but they only had the chance to use it in 06. Also even if the naka games aren't clearly romantic, a lot of the scenes where ''sonic gets annoyed'' were exeggrated by american dubs than anything else so it's SOA sabotage. i don't think naka actually had something aganist sonamy.
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If your ship has you picking a fight with windfags, you already lost
t. sonadowfag
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>>576621279
big oof
white rose is like platonic
so maybe meaningful, but not in the way you hope
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You don't want us to call you bestie over but look at the shit you're deluding and saying yourself with. "SOA sabotage" yeah bud let's go hold accountable an entire firm over your ship getting shot down which never had any firm stance in canon anyway.
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>>576621129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbi-K0J3r8g&list=PL5UrzVK31Ft8uISroJ1ykwlQgtB_Olz67&index=1&t=732s

you decide, but japaneses stuff is widely available now for you to check everything.
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sonamytards really say yuji naka is wrong
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>>576621639
p sure it's lavender rose, still, the musical song that plays is romantic lyrically in the scene.
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how do we assasinate amybesties?
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I just shid my pants
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>>576621450
So based this, I'm guessing that Sonic Team had plans to make Sonic show signs that he does like Amy back but they were used in Sonic X first and then the games. Is that right? SOA has always held deep contempt for Amy's character
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You are visiting /ourgirl/ in tokyo and buying all her yaoi right?
https://x.com/i/status/2080615770913153314
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>SAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYY
>OH WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT SAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYY
>OMG I LOVE COMICS
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>>576622262 (me)
*based on this
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>>576622262
I can't really say for sure what Naka felt about it, but i think him specifically having an anti-sonamy agenda is projection by shippers who want sonic to be with another girl, you already know half of these threads is duofag
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>>576620731
The "3 hedgehogs" concept still works very well
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>>576622262
>SOA has always held deep contempt for Amy's character
I dunno about contempt. I think they just weren't careful and misunderstood their dynamic.
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>>576622283
No one was talking about her.
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>>576620690
Takashi Iizuka has no vision for the franchise. He has no idea what he's doing. His only plan is to use Frontiers as a model for future games but that's all he has
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>>576622283
Nobody is talking about Sally, rent free
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>>576622262
>>576622512
The only time japan actually threatened sonamy rather than making it ambigous/not together yet is sonelise from 06 but i think they intended that to be a relationship Elise specifically had to give up for the Solaris causal loop to be erased
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>>576622535
No it doesnt.
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sonally as a pairing was debunked and killed 13 years ago and sonamybesties still cry about it
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>>576622596
SOA did misunderstand Amy's character in the past and her dynamic with Sonic but now they're trying to actively sabotage her character and dynamic with Sonic
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>>576621450
Scenes that were cut from sa2 were included in sonic x. That's how closely sonic team was involved with the show.
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>>576622880
Elise's story from a romance standpoint is literally about how she needs to be more like Amy to be with Sonic but can't and accepts that she can't.
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>duofagsabotagesoaduofagsabotagesoaduofagsabotagesoaduofagsabotagesoaduofagsabotagesoaduofagsabotagesoaduofagsabotagesoaduofagsabotagesoaduofagsabotagesoaduofagsabotagesoaduofagsabotagesoa
Lunatic and psychotic... just like Amy!
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>>576622890
It does. It's species synergy. Also read the Sonic Channel Wallpaper stories from 2021. Sonic, Shadow, and Silver do have chemistry
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>>576622978
>>576622283
You're the only one talking about her.
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>>576623185
See that's what surprises me with people claiming naka is ''anti-sonamy'' i am not saying sonic x is canoncical but it's off if naka would approve something he would be involved with so closely if he cared half as much this board says. i think it's a case of americans projecting black and white views to everything.
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>>576623395
No, it's a forced meme.
You more want to believe in in than actually think it is good.
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>>576623448
I'm mocking the above person you asshole
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>>576623297
I think in a meta-sense, she would literally doom or end the world if she wanted to keep sonic with her. even the conflict of th whole game and the causal loop starts with Her father messing with something he shouldn't for the sake of his wife.

it's a bit curious when they make other love interests for sonic they all get cosmically punished.
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>>576623631
You ARE the above person, smug cunt.
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>>576622283
Who the hell is Sally?
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>>576623743
Because the goal wasnt to "make a love interest for Sonic" with Elise. It was just to tell a story.
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>>576623575
Then what's a good dynamic besides Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles (the original trio)?
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What about how I FEEL about Sonic huh sthg
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>>576623898
Yea, i don't think they actually intended to make sonelise appealing to an audience so all the comments baout it is overblown. still, 06 was the game with the most explicit ''romance narrative'' elements even if shipping wasn't the goal
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>>576623919
Sonic, Tails & Amy
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Rape and kill every multiverse.

Total Multiverses Death.
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Sonic was ruined when females were added. The only characters should have been: Sonic, Tails, Eggman and Knuckles
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>>576624345
>literally kills EVERYONE WHO EVER EXISTED
>gets a hug
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>>576623919
i like sonic teaming up with eggnab
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>>576624456
fuck off fowler
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>>576624469
They ignored him so they deserved it.
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>>576624637
Romance doesn't fucking belong in a Sonic game and you are mentally ill to insist it.
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>>576624826
You only say that when it comes to Sonic and Amy but not when it happened between Shadow and Maria
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>>576621450
>>576622262
None of this means anything with chili dogs off old western Sonic being adopted into canon, being even a signature symbolism for Sonic. X is as much of a forgotten old garbo piece of shit as is AOSTH, SatAM, Archie, Underground and so on. Prime and IDW are told to be canon anyway so they win by default on canoncity matters.

>>576622512
No, people quote Naka because he literally knows what's actually Sonic about. He will never get on any girl ever, but the thing is you Sonamyfags get any opportunity ever to spread headcanons and shit here always, so of course people will retaliate with Naka's quotes. You're literally victimizing yourself.
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>>576624890
So sexy.
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>>576623510
It's a combination of autistic game purists and rabid shipfags who vehemently despise X, the latter being upset for one reason or another that it doesn't support their shipping headcanons. Framing it as sonic team's "vision" or intent for the characters is very threatening. Yes, X is far from a perfect show; it doesn't do the best job at adapting things like adventure and flanderizes the characters to a degree, but for most reasonable people it's very easy to see the canon parallels and where sonic team was probably coming from. The characters all have recognizable flaws and idiosyncrasies and behave more or less how you would imagine them to (I especially love the Chaotix in that show).

Anyways, the people trying to discount x or sonamy are silly. Even if it was played for laughs, it was still there throughout the early 2000s. It's hard to see naka not approving that s2 ending if there really was nothing there (that also goes for knuckles and rouge, a ship that some people think never existed).
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>>576625014
i'd say Sonic x had way more stuff that either was adapted into the games/references or had stuff conceptualized from the start debut in it. to compare

I don't like IDW and consider it ooc and purely boring even outside of that kind of autism but even so, IDW still hints at sonamy teases and is probably the biggest shipfag feeder in general after sonic x

I never said sonic and amy will get together like a traiditonal couple, lol. but you're being disingenious, this stuff started with people calling amy a ''cuck'' and insist that he is vehemently anti anything when he isn't even aganist teases and merch and shit for it. americans project black and white views into everything.
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>>576624212
OH NO NO NO

Sarada love and powerlevel continues to be on fraud watch
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>>576625547
>game purists
Sonic is a VIDEO GAME. You don't see people defend other shitty videogame adaptations like this. Imagine if DMC fans were like this
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>>576624456
Why are you gay?
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I'd rather be normal.
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>>576625014
>X is as much of a forgotten old garbo piece of shit as is AOSTH, SatAM, Archie, Underground and so on. Prime and IDW are told to be canon anyway so they win by default on canoncity matters.
No, actually. Up until Prime, it was still getting reruns and getting watches on Netflix, and being used in promotional material.
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>>576625679
>actively sneaks into the village for her alone
>apologize for her eyes getting wrecked to point of needing new glasses to cope with it
>playful banter and flirting

Immediately tells her to be bait for the group of people that want her dead she's a victim
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>>576625757
If sonic is a video game, why does this general never discuss games? I try to mention a game and it goes by with maybe one reply. I mention sonic comics/sonic tv show/sonic movies/sonic the breakfast cereal/sonic fanart and I get endless (You)s.
Face it, what little games exist are so bad that everyone would rather talk about anything else.
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What if Surge and Vanilla swapped bodies?
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>>576626669
i desperately want to see surge trying to babysit cream
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the only mainline sonic games that came out during my adult life are forces and frontiers so forgive me if i'm not a purist
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>>576625649
>americansamericansamericansamericansamericans
Meds bestie
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IDW's ending
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>>576625679
>>576626207
>Sakura also getting c*cked by a fucking talking plant
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>>576626148
Geeezzz it's almost as if they grabbed X promotional material because it was the closest looking to games, and with Prime in now, that wasn't any longer necessary!
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READ A BOOK
READ A BOOK
READ A MOTHERFUCKIN BOOK
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>>576625986
I don't think kids games should have characters making out or kissing.
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>>576627770
ssSSEEEEEE- sorry. sorry, i'm trying to stop. sorry
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I swear some of you niggas would be the types of losers who were trying to gaslight everyone about 06 not sucking and Unleashed being good back when they released.
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uh
guys?
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>>576628710
Nobody believes that, but normies somehow believe rush duology is good just based on rush 1 niggertrack
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>>576628876
Rush was my childhood nigger
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>>576627282
This bitch is always spying on people when they're having intimate moments and she has no room to talk she was in danger and her precious Kawaki literally overheated her brother had to save her ass just barely
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Sonic characters for this feel?
https://youtu.be/oYQ18wBC0uw
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>>576628876
RA>R1
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>>576628993
Don't care that you rape your cat, Sega should never focus on making game like that.
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Whenever someone tries to argue about something with me on here, I just ignore their reply. I have come to the conclusion that a significant amount of posters on here are legitimately illiterate. As in, I doubt half the people on this general right now would be able to read above a 5th grade level.
Not a single one of you have demonstrated otherwise.
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Why is cum cat always paired with Silver
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>>576629553
Why does every thread now has blaze mentioned out of nowhere to derail shit
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>>576629471
It took you this long to realize how dumb people can be?
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>/sthg/ - bitter millennial general
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>>576629882
Oh no, I know normies are fucking retarded but this place isn't inhabited by normies. It's just inhabited by the types of people who would be in special ed classes and were isolated from the normies due to their tard behaviors.

Frankly you guys are worse than normies in every way.
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>>576625757
>You don't see people defend other shitty videogame adaptations like this
Pokemon fans do it for Pokemon.
Megaman fans do it for NTworrior and Starforce.
They dont treat it as substitutions for the source material but they treat em as worth bringing up in convos.

X is not like AoStH and SatAm.
Those are like SuperShow.
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How did we go from "Sonic games are all bad" to "If an adaptation changes anything from the games it is bad"
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>>576627496
They still use X though. I actually dont see much Prime for promos
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At least Prime remembered that Sonic is from a planet called Earth
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>>576628574
Why are you gay
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>>576630307
Thank you for the compliment.
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>>576629005
He was gonna help her but his power level was sabotage his power level and entire bodily function now can be manipulated in real time

Hacks little shit...Surge next please idw
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>>576630680
Why do you want kids games characters having sex?
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>>576628771
Rouge should be way smaller than Futaba
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Sonic should have writing like Brand New Day
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>>576630994
*standing up, visibly seething with rage* how DARE you- oh. oh wait, the 'mobians are short' thing. Right. Haha yeah, you know how it is
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>>576631040
I'm actually gonna go see that in a bit with this "era actually" should be fun is it good? It's like 2 hours long
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>>576625649
>this stuff started with people calling amy a ''cuck''
And she is. Amy is disregarded, ignored, pushed away literally on many Sonic games until Generations. There's no way around it.

>and insist that he is vehemently anti anything
He is. He is anti-romance for Sonic, fitting for a franchise about being cool. This is not up to muh reading between lines excuse and no girl will be ever with Sonic, including but not limited to Amy. Amy is a plot gag character meant to highlight Sonic's strong willed feeling for never compromising for anything.

>and merch and shit for it
Merch =/ word of god, or are you gonna an autist now and say all the Sally plushies and merch means they care about her? lol.

>americans project black and white views into everything.
There's no black and white views here, but a thorough defined view the games centralized which is Sonic will never reciprocate Amy ever, purely for his character sake and gag. No amount of muh dubism here will resolve your shitty shipfaggotry stand when japanese Sonic acts all the same in manners and behavior.
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>>576629714
Shitverfags are insecure
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>>576629301
Agreed.
Naganumashills who insist otherwise are low IQ.
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>>576631328
Blazefags aren't any better and don't use me to push character schizo agenda.
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>>576631285
You don't know what the word ''cuck'' means then because cuck implies there's another person he cucks amy with.

can't bother to argue with anything else.
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i'm quitting this general.
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>>576629714
Might be because she's a Sonic character
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>>576631216
Dopends on how you feel about protagonist torture
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>>576631735
>there's another person he cucks amy with.
Yeah, tons. Tails, Blaze, Elise, literally anyone else Sonic interacts willingly with but Amy.
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Krack is apparently retiring from being an active right-leaning activist because Miia is a much more successful attention whore than her while doing the same thing and getting more attention with far less effort. Now that's funny.
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>>576618460
Why not? He's liked other girls before when they still had the "Amy chases Sonic" dynamic.
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Cuckold: A cuckoo who lays its eggs in the nests of other birds to raise their children for them.
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>>576632305
Sonic isn't attracted to anyone. He's the spirit of adventure.
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>>576632251
It's kind of insane that without ever opening twitter a single time in my life I get a steady stream of updates on what this person is up to through sthg
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>>576632247
None of those are romantic, when rouge flirts she gets rejected hasher than amy does. when amy doesn't overwhelm him he still obviously does care about her.

>>576632305
He didn't like any of them romantically.
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>My cartoon character should be fucking everything that moves
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>>576632672
>None of those are romantic
Don't have to be romantic, bestie. :)
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>>576632771
Oh so duofag's copes are getting weaker.

when amy isn't being pushy sonic still cares about her as a good friend.
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Why is there a retard spouting about duofag when I didn't see a single Sonurge shit spam here
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>>576629471
>on here
https://youtu.be/MhQ5678cJU8
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Shadow should have a game with music like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X96uXAO36uA
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>>576633330
it's his boogeyman
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>>576631505
>”don’t use me to push character schism agenda”
>immediately after pushing his own
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>>576633330
sonamyfags are stupid
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>>576632672
I can tell this is really important to you.
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>>576632545
No he's just a guy.

>>576632672
Debatable by design.
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>>576630832
>sex
Wut
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>>576633530
I find it annoying when she's brought up out of nowhere whether it's Blazefags schizo'ing or Silverfags schizo'ing as a trauma response.
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>>576633828
Elise is the only one that is actually debatable. even then the game erases itself and she never appears again
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>>576631202
>mobians
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>>576633929
If you're at the point where seeing a random Sonic character gets you annoyed, you need to take a break from Sonic fandom for a while.
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>>576634074
Amy, Elise, Blaze/Percival, depends on how you look at things.
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>>576634158
Posting pictures of her or being talked about normally isn't what annoys me. but when someone broughts up 06/rush the thread devolves into character schizo'ing too much out of nowhere. i don't really dislike any character.

you're right i should probably ignore that stuff
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>>576631285
>disregarded, ignored, pushed away literally on many Sonic games until Generations. There's no way around it.
That's not even what being a cuck is.
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>>576634535
Yes, it is.
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>>576610793
>Perci and Zooey: friendly-rival shopkeepers/traders
>Perci excels at maintenance and repair, Zooey runs a more generalized store but also can barter rare parts
>Sticks is the wildcard black-marketer who dispenses obscure info and deals with unconventional weaponry such as boomerangs (totally outlawed!)
I can see it.
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>>576634308
Blaze/percival is one sided. i

think there's some undertones for him liking amy but it isn't really going to anywhere and people can't be nuanced about the dicussion of it.

The point of Elise is that she has to let go of the relationship and erase it from the universe for the solaris cycle to end.

but i get you.
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>can't be nuanced
There's nothing nuancing here. You're forcing your headcanons again.
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>>576633828
This is a kids game.
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>>576634594
No, not even a little. Getting cucked is when someone takes your partner/love interest.
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>>576635859
And that's exactly what Tails, Knuckles, Blaze and others did with Sonic. ;)
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Tailsfag headcanons really be like "what if Tails love interests had personalities and character"
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>>576624938
Shadria is a heavily astrosurfed one spammed for years all off one mentally ill fujo. It's an artificial ship pledged and spammed by others too purely for simping her. There are no actual Shadria fans.
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>>576636519
Shadaria used to be somewhat popular in 00s and early 2010s, it died when Sonelise made people cringe + moralfagging became mainstream. it's also still decently a thing in japanese fanbase.

no i am not actually interested in it being a romance dynamic, but the popularity or the interpretation was there.
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>>576636519
https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=maria_robotnik+shadow_the_hedgehog&pid=0
Wow, Krack sure is a good artist, mastering so many different artstyles like that
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>>576600406
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Nostalgia bating is ruining any stories Sonic can tell. Green Hill, Chemical Plant, City Escape, Hydrocity, Oil Ocean, Death Egg, blah blah blah. Why are we here? Oh, this is my memories! Or the warble stone mixed up the world! Or maybe the Timey-Wimey Lord wimeyed-timeyed! Ugh. Please.
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you cant even buy these keychains, they come in mystery boxes
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If Sonic is Mickey then who is Goofy?
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>>576637174
How i sleep after my S rank shift at Club Rougexxx
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Every character misunderstanding came from Archie and Satam. You never see Underground fans shrieking that Sonic needs to be a prince
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^no one asked.
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>>576622010
I'd say Sonic is ironically the most difficult character for Windii to translate properly. The official version is adquate, like who the hell was complaining that "girlfriends" was changed "girls" to make him appropriately sound casually flippant to Rouge (as he should!)?
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>>576638647
Whoever translated the Griffith era games nailed it
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>>576638647
what is the original japanese text and what does it translate to?

do you think windii translations in general are accurate or do you think she has stuff she screws up?

i do think in both cases it has teasing intention to make the audience think of amy.
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>>576638834
That was before the localizers took extreme liberties with the dialogue. I miss when the games were accurately translated for the most part; before the lore team ruined the dialogue
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>>576638834
there's still stuff they screw up, better compared to earlier 00s tho
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>>576639286
We had a real sweet spot between the 90s over-censorship and the 2010-2020s rewrites. Shame it wasn't forever.
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>>576636416
Cosmo's personality is in the negative number, that is, she has antipersonality, which is a big fucking problem when you have to make her sympathetic. She's carried by an admittedly great design and Tails holding a candle for his delicate little flowercup. Mina on the other hand HAS a personality but NO chemistry, we're just told it's there but we never see it!
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>>576638085
I FUCKING LOVE GAMBLING
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>>576639446
Seriously what the fuck happened
The mid 2000s were localized just fine and suddenly every dub went right back to shoving in references, memes, headcanons, millenial humor and other crap
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>>576639526
If you go through every line Cosmo ever says almost all of them are about stopping the metarex and protecting the planet eggs. She only shows any personality when talking to Tails or reacting to the other characters. I can't even tell you if she's introverted or extroverted.
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>>576640027
Shitty internet politics were the worst of it, like those Funimation dubs about incels and GamerGate and the patriarchy.
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>>576640027
>what the fuck happened
Ian Flynn.
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>>576639446
>>576640027
Sonic Team told Ken Pontac and Waren Graff to write the English scripts from the 2010s that way. It's all Sonic Team's fault
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>>576640027
Amerimutts. That's what happened.
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>>576604962
>Why didn't they ever make a Sonic Mania 2 or similar classic-style game?
They did, it's called Sonic Superstars

>Mania sold well, didn't it?
No, Superstars sold better

>And it got tons of praise.
No, it got tons of insults for the entire Sonic series and its creators in the form of backhanded compliments for Mania
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>>576640249
:)
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>>576640343
Tbh 00s era still had errors like SA2 omitting shadow memory change plot, and 06 enabling uwuver by translating ''goes wild'' as ''insecure when alone''
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>>576640027
What happened is that the dialogue of mid 2000s Sonic games was hated and they hired Pontac and Graff to make it appeal more to those audiences

>>576640318
That's just the Pontac and Graff replacement
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>>576640524
Cute cute cute!!!!!
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>>576640583
That's true as well. I wish the Japanese, American, and European branches had better communication back then. It wouldn't have been that difficult. Sega would just need to hire translators and use fax machines to communicate.
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>>576640249
Best character ever
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>>576640027
Not just Sonic, but all game translations were basically handled by people who more or less knew both languages. Just normal people.They weren't fans or, oftentimes, even gamers. It was just a job.
Nowadays, the workforce has advanced. The people doing translations grew up with the works, they grew up on the internet, they grew up scrolling twitter, reddit, tiktok, and even 4chan. They know the things fans find memeworthy, so they shove all those things into their translations thinking they're being in with the crowd, not realizing that the meme culture they're trying to engage with occurs through happenstance and organic growth, not from the work itself shoving old memes into every nook and cranny.

tldr: translation used to be handled by professionals, now it is handled by fans.
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>>576640979
Yes!!!!!!!!!!
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>>576640583
Let's not forget that Heroes had a callback to SA2 which was lost in the translation. It's another case of fans overglorifying the positives of the past and omitting the negatives
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>>576641171
^-^
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>>576636854
This
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>>576640979
Hell yeah!
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Localization is a balancing act of attempting to convey a foreign story while also translating the untranslatable intent of that story.
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>>576641193
No one was omitting the negatives though? Those games translated the dialogue, there were a lot of mistakes and some occasional changes. Since 2010 that is no longer the case, now the almost always write a completely different script for the English version
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>>576641453
I mean yeah, but the problem is that the localization industry at large now just goes "Man, this doesn't exactly translate to English well. I'll just throw the whole thing out and start over."
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>>576640925
It would have been saved if we didn't have a western release until Adventure. Or better yet, don't let Americans touch Sonic. Why does Sonic need a girlfriend? Why does Sonic need cartoons that make him into furry soap operas?
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>>576640583
>>576641193
Do these omissions even matter if the emotional beats of those stories are still understood by the target audience of the localization?
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>>576641318
<3 <3 <3
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>>576641193
That bugs me because people constantly jab at heroes for having Sonic "not react" to Shadow's revival. He did react. That was the reaction.
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>>576636265
?
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>>576640512
>No, it got tons of insults for the entire Sonic series and its creators in the form of backhanded compliments for Mania
Schizobabbling yourself right now.
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>>576641620
>if we didn't have a western release until Adventure
I agree with the anti-localization position, but that's extreme. The series wouldn't have survived long enough to get to Adventure

>>576641673
Yes
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>>576641673
I think it matters in the two cases i pointed out, not having gerald's manipulation not pointed out confuses the plot, and ''insecure when alone'' makes him sound dependant or wimpy when the japanese wants to portray he is unhinged or reckless
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>>576641887
The plot of SA2 is poorly paced anyways so many of it's emotional attempts fall flat
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>>576634158
Then every Blazefag needs to leave the fandom.
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Kill yourself tailspedos spammers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggUh2xZuYU
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sonic 3 told a pretty decent story without a single word of dialog
time to return to the olde
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>>576642059
Shitazefags are so insecure and we've done nothing
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>>576640979
I don’t get the massive hatred for the blue shoes. I think they fit better with his blue eyes and even contrasts better with Sonic. Could even think of it as a different way to honor him without just ripping his red shoes look
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>>576642182
I thought Sonic 2's story was better, S3&K is more grandiose
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>>576641825
All I'm saying is the truth. I like Mania a lot, it doesn't change that most of praise it receives unfortunately doesn't come from appreciation of the game itself but from a desire to shit on the rest series. That game is just abused as a way to sneakily give dishonest criticism to anything Sonic Team does

>>576642136
Lol keep crying
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>>576639026
>what is the original japanese text
I saw some amateur on Reddit a while back talking about it like the wordchoice is such a gamechanger, but that's why it was slightly altered: so native English speakers don't get the wrong idea. It's very obvious that the game's writing doesn't paint Sonamy in a particularly flattering light, and taking that line superliterally makes him sound like some womanizer, which isn't the idea at all.
>do you think windii translations in general are accurate or do you think she has stuff she screws up?
Generally okay but I don't think she gets nuance as well as she thinks she does. My recollection is that SamIAm did a better job at manual story translations, but I'd have to relook. I also hear she did a few scummy things in the past that make me uninterested in her retranslations, especially since very few of it are things that weren't already known about before.
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>>576638367
>first thing i see on my feed after saying this weird dumb shit

I guess it's true

lol
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>>576634158
Ironic
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>>576642136
No faggot
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>>576642275
I disagree, red gives him a warmer look and is a better tribute to Sonic.

I also don't think there's a "hatred" for his blue shoes, just reaction to misinformation surrounding them. And also the fact that many people wanting to "fix" Tails' design come across as extremely annoying
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>>576642182
The manual has dialogue, so that's only half true... Anyway did you enjoy Superstars?

>>576642275
I don't get the hate, but I prefer red shoes. I just think they look better

>>576642302
I agree, Sonic 2 is great!
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if surge c
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>>576639446
>>576640027
Sonic Team wanted chungus millennial meme humor to appeal to dumbass game critics after the fallout of the 2000’s. Sonic wouldn’t be self-respecting again until after Forces when the fandom was collectively complaining about the Pontaff meme humor and the movies gave the series some backbone again.
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>>576642418
Would you say that "I'm not lacking a girlfriend" is a better translation?
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>>576642418
can't really complain about her too much because no one else translates the japanese versions of the games. some people take jp stuff too literally to make stink about stuff or interpret wrongly but i still think it's better than most official localizations.
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>>576642670
>Anyway did you enjoy Superstars?
skipped it because it looked like some mario 3d world thing that's way more fun as a couch game with friends and i have no friends
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>>576641825
I like Mania, but an unfortunately high amount of the praise for it is just using it yo sgiy on Sonic Team by going "woah, look how much they suck! The fans do better!"
Mania itself is a means to that end more than anything.
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meme culture was a mistake
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Pear
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I like the idea of writing things like the early 2000s games, but that itself is referential and indulgent isn't it?
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>>576616973
https://www.tumblr.com/galaxylover06/801655266795044864/here-he-is-rocket-my-little-rat-is-officially
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>>576642915
>skipped it
Figures lol

>>576642932
Tails cute cute cute!
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>>576642754
I hope that the survey Sonic Team is currently taking on the dialogue translations of Sonic Racing: Crossworlds means that they will make the future translations more accurate to the Japanese dialogue
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>>576643259
He is!
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>>576643206
Having a style isn’t referential. Especially when the Japanese side never left that style.
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>>576643206
yes. current sonic itself is also that because it's about recapturing the magic of the pre-2010 era
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Mod coming never
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>>576643212
Silver fucks this
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>>576643478
She'd have permanent max tear rate but negative damage.
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>>576643189
Cute body shape!

>>576643395
:)
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>>576642392
>but from a desire to shit on the rest series.
Yeah, a desire to shit on a shit series comprised of godawful games from out of touch retarded japanese businessman who think we wanted shit like Boom and Forces around the same time.

Retard.

>>576642956
>"woah, look how much they suck!
They do though.

>The fans do better!"
Ian is shit but much more bearable over anything metashit Sonic Team was doing.
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>>576639526
>Tails holding a candle for his delicate little flowercup.
It's even worse than that: Tails doesn't REALLY get interested in Cosmo until the episode where the Chaotix misread their signals and have nothing better to do than play matchmaker (at which point they actually make Tails start to accidentally fall in love with her) and Cosmo displays NO hint of returning any of this affection until the episode where they get accidentally splashed in a mythical moon lake meant for Amy and Sonic. Episodes 65 and 69, respectively. For half a season, Cosmo seemed like she was going to be AMY'S rival for SONIC.
>spoiler
And Fiona just tolerated his precocipus crush until her epic crashout and downward spiral... Zooey really was the sweetspot, shame she was underitilized.
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>>576643431
Nta, but no way to do that without pandering to a portion of the fandom neglecting new ones and general audience
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>>576643794
They should kiss
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>>576643206
Just have a Japanese writer with a simple translation to English and suddenly you'll have the """2000s""" style again
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So it it better for Shadow to have always been neutral/good and was only doing bad things in SA2 because Gerald mindrapped him to do that, or for him to start actually evil and have a genuine change of heart?

I know this really doesn't matter, because the argument was about the intent of hte original writers vs the flawed interpretation of the localizers, I just want your thoughts on which is a stronger character arc.
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>>576643893
That's a bad faith reading of things. Cosmo and Tails had a whole shipbait episode before that
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>>576643992
That's what I so desperately want. In fact, tell Sega you want that
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>>576642956
>The fans do better!"
They do, just not shit like Utopia. There's tons good 2D Sonic fangames that are just much better to play over Fronshities. We just got a new XG demo for instance and it blows off anything Sonic Team has been doing (per the naturality, obviously).
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>>576643997
Both is the best answer, he should be naturally vengeful for Maria's death but Gerald's mindrape made those feelings consume him
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>>576643881
>Boom and Forces around the same time.
>japanese businessman
Boom was made by Americans to appeal to people who didn't like Sonic and Sonic Team was opposed to it, and Forces had limited resources, still had American interference, and was desperately made by Sonic Team while SEGA as a whole wanted to shut down the series
This isn't praising Mania, this is using Mania as an excuse to insult a struggling studio, while ignoring the fact that said studio also contributed to Mania, and that Mania itself is 80% an unoriginal retread of that studio's old work

>>576643959
Aaahh!!!
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hair down surge is cute too
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>>576644684
>Boom was made by Americans to appeal to people who didn't like Sonic and Sonic Team was opposed to it
Which SEGA greenlighted first of all and sabotaged the things internally in the end.

>Forces had limited resources
Holy copeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>still had American interference
Nope. Entire story was pitched by Toyoda, down to canonizing coward Tails.

>and was desperately made by Sonic Team while SEGA as a whole wanted to shut down the series
That actually would have been good, so no more bad games for Sonic and finally as a hero (even if zombified).
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>>576644718
catinthehat-ass Eggman.
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>>576644718
>>576644941
FUCK YOU AND KILL YOURSELF DIAPER SHITTING ARCHIE FAGGOT
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>>576643997
i think the intention is that he is valuing the wishes of maria over all else. in japanese, gerald supresses it or makes him think maria wantd revenge. amy helps him remember what maria actully wanted.

so the result is that if maria wanted it, he would destroy the world, but ofc she wouldn't be maria if she was that kind of person to begin with.>>576644602
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Kitfag, please don't respond to Tailspedo spammers. You're better than this.
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>>576643881
>They do though.
You know you are talking to an NPC when you choose not to preemptively reply to the obvious thing you expect them to say, decided not to to give em.a chance, and come out disappointed.

It doesnt matter if tou think they are (they aren't and they wouldn't claim to either)
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How much T&A fanservice do you think ABT will shove into issue 91? Will it be enough to counteract the silvaze shitstorm the story will cause?
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>>576643960
STICKS *PLAP**PLAP**PLAP**PLAP**PLAP**PLAP**PLAP*
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>>576643881
>Ian is shit but much more bearable over anything metashit Sonic Team was doing.
Ian is his own flavor of metashit. You give him credit over stuff Sonic Team is doing
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>>576645280
I haven't, one of them just downloads them without changing the filename, I'm not very talkative.
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>>576645307
It will amplify it
Remember Blazefags work on relevance, the more relevance Silver would get = the more rush will never be made
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>>576644919
>Which SEGA greenlighted first of all
SEGA of America, maybe. You also need to realize that there's a difference between SEGA and Sonic Team

>and sabotaged the things internally
Shit like pic related being the "sabotage". Oh if only Sonic Team let BRB follow their vision... No wait this was already shit from the start. If you take this in consideration at all you legitimately don't like Sonic

>Nope. Entire story was pitched by Toyoda, down to canonizing coward Tails.
And then went through several revisions to get approved by Americans. And yes the game is heavily limited, especially in comparison to its scale, just look at it

>That actually would have been good
Yep, you hate Sonic, you keep proving my point

>>576645280
Stop trying to attach identities to anonymous posts
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>>576645568
Silver getting relevance is what would enable Blaze to get any actual relevance again though, and i dn't mean shipping i mean overall.
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>>576642754
It's a matter of fact that Sega as a whole wants Sonic to be perceived differently between home and the bigger market. They did as described in your pic and JP made their own version of those stories anyway, even doing it today with the "better" writer Ian
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Anti-Locaizationfags:
>Localization is totally not cool and ruins everything!

The humble localization:
https://youtu.be/O7bd4ccmjWc
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>>576645539
>I haven't
I am pretty sure you have replied to me in the past. I don't know why this is important or noteworthy

>downloads them without changing the filename
Does that bother you for some reason? I tend to keep the original filename if it's available or if it has relevant info (artist name or anything to trace it back to its origin, I wish Twitter had good filenames)
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>>576645883
I miss Humphdow so much
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>>576645879
It's what kishimoto blatantly said with the ''not reading between lines'' thing
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Why does Doctor Robotnik, the smartest eggman, not just utilize the chaos emeralds to turn into Super Doctor Robotnik? Is he dumb?
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>>576645879
>>576646115
Why did SoJ approve of the English script for Frontiers being so different?
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>>576646175
*Eggman
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>>576646175
Because only hedgehogs can go super.
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What do the anti woke people here think of the Democratic Socialists of America
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>>576646354
>implying
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>>576646354
blaze isn't hedgehog
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>>576646276
Because americans can't read between the lines and need simpler stories and characterizations.
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>>576645980
>I am pretty sure you have replied to me in the past.
Yes I have, just not this specific instance which what was being referred to.
>Does that bother you
No, and to provide some aid, twitter filenames are based on the date, sorted by numbers, beginning with Capitals, then lowercase, then numbers, then _ and -.
For example, this one has "g4b", so it was uploaded around November.
Good day :)
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>>576643997
>only doing bad things in SA2 because Gerald mindrapped him to do that,
Everyone that thinks this just wanted to sanitize him. Gerald never did that. He just put the imperative in him. Shadow did it because of his trama.
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>>576646612
How much more complex is Japanese Frontiers' story?
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>>576644248
>They do, just not shit like Utopia.
No.
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>Amerimutts are seething about the japagods again
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>>576646612
It was so stupid of Sonic Team to approve of the English dialogue yet change it for the Japanese version. Why not just make an accurate translation from English-to-Japanese or Japanese-to English?
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>>576646612
Don't blame Americans. Blame whole word reading and No Child Left Behind messing up their education system
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>>576646761
Thx (: I knew it can be calculated (although you seem to roughly know how to roughly match them without any code which is pretty cool), unfortunately though afaict that usually only helps if you already know who uploaded them
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Yuji Naka:
>Nooooooo, Sonic HAS to say Teria IN ENGLISH and the English voice actors HAVE to wear color coded clothes to match their characters!!1!1

Also Yuji Naka
>Yeah 面白い can be translated as "I'm the coolest".

Why is ST like this? lol
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>>576647060
>Don't blame American
>Blame whole word
Typical American posting.
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>>576644248
>There's tons good 2D Sonic fangames that are just much better to play over Fronshities.
Most of em are hold right to win slop. You hold to an uneven standard than actual retail games.
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>>576642763
NTA, I'd translate the text box as "As you're sadly aware, I have no trouble finding girlfriends." if it'd fit. Though maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the preceding equivalent line ("I don't have time for niceties.") but "Sides, I have enough girls chasing me as it is." is still fine to convey the intended meaning/info.
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>>576647362
>could have had spiderkino
>got dcslop instead
worst timelines
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>>576647404
Naka is so impressively autistic. I wish he never left Sonic. Can you imagine what he would come up with
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>>576647030
Because they still think the west hate Sonic being japanese and anime because of a loud minority that no longer exist
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>>576647060
>No Child Left Behind
So really, blame Florida.
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>>576646276
They were too busy making the rest of the game and found out shortly before Japanese recording began. Kishimoto pulled all-nighters to at least get the Japnese crap more tard-wrangled. That's why they're ghosting SOA this time until it's time for them to do their real job.
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>>576647816
It's always Florida.
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Bunnieposting
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>>576647601
Naka was too autistic for 3rd Party era Sega.

>Naka getting super autistic about keeping the "500 yen per ride" line in English Colors, but letting Baldy McNosehair slide for whatever reason.
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>>576646583
She doesn't go super, she has a counterfeit version called burning which is lamer
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>>576648321
>Make a space theme park
>Restrict it only to Japanese customers
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has bunnie ever said nigger
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Holy crap guys the guy who loves to suck idw dick did not like the new issue of idw sonic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11D7wdyI7Eg
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>>576646175
Super Sonic is not the product of the Emeralds. It is a power Sonic possessed specifically that he uses the Emeralds to achieve.
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>>576647980
>found out shortly before Japanese recording began. Kishimoto pulled all-nighters to at least get the Japnese crap more tard-wrangled
There is a problem on the japanese side if it was only caught at the last minute
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>>576648347
eggman should just call his super form egging
egging eggman
he's gonna egg out
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>>576646510
Sungazer can go Dragon, not Super.

>>576646583
Burning Blaze is a Burning form, not Super.
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>>576648936
Then how come Shadow and Silver can do it?
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>>576649092
Shadow and Silver are Sonic counterparts
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>>576649072
What makes a Dragon Form different from a Super Form?
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>>576649072
This sounds like semantics. They're forms of a heightened state.
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>>576608273
>flatsper
:(
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Only Sonic can go Hyper.
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Do hedgehogs get parasites when eating in the wild? What kind of worms does sonic have in him?
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>>576649639
Sonic doesn't eat in the wild.
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Sonic eats big macs
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>>576649343
He drew another one.
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>>576649478
How did you get access to my SA3 storyline from 2004?
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>>576647980
But much of the English dialogue of Crossworlds suffered from the same problem
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Still stuck on the fact that Penders is printing and selling Shadally fanfiction and saying it's the real continuity of Archie
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>>576649724
>Wild hedgehogs frequently carry internal parasites like lungworms, roundworms, tapeworms, and flukes, which they often pick up by eating infected intermediate hosts like slugs, snails, and earthworms
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>>576649946
I'd say it's back to Meta-Era levels there where the tweaks are more fot perceived humor rather than changing entire plot threads.
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>>576650221
But the tweaks are also sometimes out of character and are even censoring Amy's love for Sonic
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>>576649798
I wonder where the influence came from
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Sonic is only fast because of nominative determinism. If his mommy named him Slowpoke, Eggman would have conquered the world by now.
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>>576647404
>Also Yuji Naka
>>Yeah 面白い can be translated as "I'm the coolest".
He probably didn't.
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>sonic
>manic
>sonia
>tania
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>>576650581
How do we know Sonic is his real name?
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>>576650024
It would be if he stayed on the comic.
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>>576648321
That line wasnt even in the Japanese version. If Naka was around still, it wouldn't affect anything. Either the Japanese and english scripts got split or they didnt.
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I'm 563 days away from from gaining Wizard super powers
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>>576651194
>That line wasnt even in the Japanese version
it is in the japanese version
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>>576645307
I still have a lot of good faith when it comes to ABT. If he says the art is some of his best, I believe him. At lest I know I have kino art to look forward to.
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>>576651252
Sauce? Cool Silver pic
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>>576648719
He doesn't. He likes sucking IAN'S dick.
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>>576648321
kek that would have been amazing
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>>576651308
Pinterest
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>>576648719
IDW fans turning on the comics when Evan writes is nothing new. They're Ian fans.
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>>576651323
Ian built a legion of parasocial Sonic fans. Evan didn't.
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I guess it's time for Evan to make the Tumblecast
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>>576651272
Don't post noncanon shit
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American Sonic
Japanese Shadow
Egyptian Silver
French Tails
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Evan forgot to make his stories interesting, engaging, thoughtful, or adventurous. Oopsies.
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>>576651252
>february 21 2028
?
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>>576651769
100 more issues of therapyslop for you!
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>>576651769
still better than the games
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>>576651654
>Don't post noncanon shit
no one ever says this about sonic x
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>>576645747
It will get the fake Blaze relevance, not he rush one, which will cause her to never be important
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>The distorted Sonics and Amys in the issue were references to the varies artstyles in Archie.
Niggas literally can't get over that shit.
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>>576651769
Evan wrote the most discussed storyline in IDW.
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>>576651998
Isn't that 50
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They hired Evan straight out of fucking highschool because she wrote a fanfic where Silver is a massive uwu babby protecc chungus
what do you expect
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>>576651858
i forgot you babies cry the second a character shows tears
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>>576651998
Not for the right reasons.
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>>576651998
I didn't say he can't write well, he just forgot. Oops.
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>>576651710
British Knuckles
Chinese Amy
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>>576649092
Shadow being able to do it was an intentional paralel thing. In the first game, him doing it was damaging him and an active paralel between him and Sonic. Sonic could do Chaos Control because Shadow couldn't because Shadow and him are the same Ultimate Lifeform blablablah. Shadow was made to be that, etc.

Silver can because they forced him to be a 3rd character in that dynamic. Its also why he gets Chaos Control ans gets compared to Sonic
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>>576651769
>>576652147
Evan is a she.
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>>576652089
>better than the games
>tears
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>>576652082
Didn't Evan start on Archie?
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>>576652304
Yes
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>men cant cry
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Everyone knows it's Starline and aren't going to be happy if the comic is going to be dragged just to reveal it's just Starline.
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>>576652271
"she"
right
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>>576652413
What if it isn't Starline? What if it's Dapple?
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>>576652267
They're gods chosen soldiers
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>>576651654
Yeah I know it's form the cover of a gainer/feeder comic. Yeah it isn't canon, but that's ok. It's funny.
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>>576652505
I bet you think Tracy Yardley is a chick too, huh?
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>>576652532
>It's a new donut steel nobody has heard of.
That isn't good either. A mystery plot like this can only work if it's a an unexpected character who is also familiar.
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>>576651252
>>576651814
>february 21 2028
Oh, I mispelled is 553 days*
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If you genuinely enjoy IDW please tell me whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>576649823
>slightly less flatsper
:|
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post more Tails to help me draw please
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cnc
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>>576649251
It doesn't look like Supersaiyan.
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>>576652815
Can you stop vagueposting already?
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hey remember when those two namefags had sex with each other
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>>576649305
Superform has narrative significance and specificity. It's only semantical gameplaywise. Not narratively.
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>>576652413
I feel like it probably isn't Starline, if only because Squidface hasn't done anything with Surge and Kit. Blackwood will probably be a red herring though.
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>>576649251
They're the same thing, Dragon Form is Trip's super power. "Super powers" is the generic catch-all for a super form in Superstars.
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>>576653560
Why is it vague?
That's the day i'LL become a Wizard.
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I enjoy IDW just as much as I do Frontiers and Shadow Generations
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no seriously tell me why you like idw
i won't make fun of you or argue about it, i just want to know why you like idw
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>>576653947
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>>576653707
NTA, but doesn't that prove that both the Dragon Form and the Burning Form are both superforms like Super Sonic, since they both have narrative significance and specificity like Super Sonic does?
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>>576653014
the games are boring
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>>576651252
>>576652815
BEHOOOOLD THE (almost) WIZARRRRD.

BEWARE HIS (eventual) POWEEEEEERS.

UNSPEAKABLE POWEEEEEEEEERS.
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>>576654716
But IDW is boring.
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>>576655078
It's all boring because Sega insists on fun things like >Sonic can never lose. >No canon characters can be romantic. >Nothing can ever change the status quo. and so on.
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>>576654716
cool but why do you like IDW
>>576654112
i see
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>>576651253
It isn't. He calls him something else.
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>>576655423
Attentionwhore
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>>576655481
i like the stories and the characters have emotions
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>>576638152
Sonic does not have a Donald or Goofy, because Sonic is the version of Mickey who is both Donald AND Goofy combined already.
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>>576655852
thank you for answering
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>>576639526
>>576643893
>>576644115
sounds like tails and cosmo is just

tails = amy
cosmo = sonic

so whether or not cosmo returns the feelings is as clear and obvious as how sonic feels about amy. meaning, it's unclear and never directly stated because we see it from tails' perspective as the one interested in her at first.
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>>576644115
When Cosmo first shows up Amy assumes she has a crush on Sonic
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>>576644115
Having Cosmo literally show no romantic interest in Tails until after she falls into a legendary romance magic lake is like if you had a guy who seemed straight only come out as gay after a psychic teenage girl read his mind and stated it
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>>576655957
no problem! i take it as my dearest compliment even if you were being a sarcastic manbaby.
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>>576655474
Read a fanfic, buddy. That sounds like what you actually want.
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>>576638152
When you say "Goofy", do you mean Everyman George Geef Goofy, or 90s Sitcom Dad Goofy, or Dippy Dawg Goofy?

Also, Goofy is black.

>>576638456
Sonic X also contributed to a lot of character misunderstandings.
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>>576656793
No, I genuinely wanted to hear it from an IDW fan. We don't really get much discussion on the appeal of the comic here.
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>>576656894
Fanfiction is the primary method through which I engage with Sonic these days.
I'm really just here for the lewd femShadow pics.
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It's funny how a licensed back of a cereal box tier comic that 90% of the fandom doesn't even know about and that will be completely forgotten when it's gone sparks so much drama.
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>>576656985
The day more fans realize that Sonic X IS OCC is the day I can start to sleep peacefully
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>>576656985
1934 Goofy windfags...
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>>576657212
hmmmm. i wonder why. also we agreed a couple threads back that the fandom nowadays only pretends to like sonic so they can win online arguments
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Horusver
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>>576657212
Try saying this to Avatar fans
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Comicfags and Xfaggots like acting like it's wrong to want the adaptations to be in-character
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>>576656985
If Walt wanted to draw Goofy as black he wouldn't have given him white skin and he would have given him big goofy lips.
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>>576614096
canon
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They are too strong
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Hi, /Sthg/! Want to know what piece of Sonic media was the most internally-IC? Sonic Boom.
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>>576658007
This is completely ooc
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>>576657212
The comic itself knows that. That's why it's so desperate to leak in the games so it'll still technically exist when it gets canned.
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>>576657419
Get these jews out of my face
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>>576658226
I'm tired of IDW holding the canon hostage
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>>576658359
IDW is more fun than the games are
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>>576657419
>>576658358
>Return the slab
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SHUT THE FUCK UP KRACK YOU BITCH
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>>576658425
Who programmed you to say that? Lmao.
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>>576658686
Don't fuck with me right now because I'm not in the mood.
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Archie and IDW are both shit made for people who hate Sonic
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>>576658359
It's really unbelievable how the franchise just turned into an IDW shillfest. I don't care about their OCs or their snail-paced plots.
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>>576658797
Omfg who cares. Let people enjoy things for once you fucking sad neckbeard
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>>576658776
No one's in the mood for you praising a shitty comic.
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>I complain about things that I never read or played
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>>576658885
>I don't care about their OCs
I like ONE of them.
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>>576659073
I do this
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>>576658946
Letting people "enjoy things" is how we got horrible shit like IDW and Archie. You actively want to take the joy of others away by twisting Sonic into a stupid AU instead of fucking off to go enjoy your own fiction. You hate Sonic. Plain and simple. You want Sonic erased. You want people who like Sonic to suffer. I would love if more people enjoyed Sonic but you don't. You enjoy a shitty OOC skinwalker that is nothing like Sonic because you hate the source material. You're so full of disgusting hatred I can't imagine why you think you're the good guy instead of the devil forcing everyone into a lifescript.
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>>576659792
>sonic showed emotions and that made my big boy pants angry
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Just finished brainwashing another dozen people into hating IDW. Life is good.
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>>576660051
If you could brainwash people into hating Archie, SatAm and Sonic X that would be wonderful
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>>576657419
>>576658358
Do NOT let Horusver near your lettuce.
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>>576660336
Hehehe, I get it.
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Comic fans basically killed all discussion since they refuse to accept the comics are ooc
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I just enjoyed something not caring about manchildren opinions
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>>576660769
must be fun enjoying ooc off brand and not true to the source media, fake fan
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>>576660849
japanese franchise btw
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>>576660886
Cry harder.
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>>576660849
>skullcap
Each Naruto fan I've ever met has consistently been the stupidest motherfucker I've ever met.
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What is wrong with wanting Sonic, Shadow, Silver, and Amy to act like themselves instead of comic headcanon shit
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>>576659792
I don't see a problem with Archie itself since it was its own thing separate from the games. Archiefags were annoying, but that's it, you can ignore it.

Now IDW is a problem, since they are actively trying to take over the canon and change everything, and there are people on SoA trying to help them.
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>>576661340
What's wrong with someone enjoying something you don't?
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>>576661340
Nothing. you'd be right
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>>576661340
they don't have a `themselves` to act as, so every rendition of them is >headcanon
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>starting up the argument again just as it dies down
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>>576631040
It has the perfect dynamic for Sonamy
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>ITT:
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>>576660886
the japanese like westoshitto
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>>576661374
>I don't see a problem with Archie itself since it was its own thing separate from the games.
Funny thing is that wasn't always the case, just like Fleetway they expected you to have some knowledge of what you played in the games. Only sometime after the Sonic Adventure 2 preview issue did they decide to have it be wholly separate.
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>>576660519
The Egyptian god of disorder being one of the only gods in the pantheon tied to an unidentifiable animal is kinda spooky.
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>>576662023
kys westfag
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>I enjoy complaining about others enjoying things!
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>>576661340
Sonic, Amy, Knuckles, Shadow, and Blaze are fundamentally anti-modernist characters, that's why modernist writers, like the ones at IDW, treat it like a moral failing to not butcher them in some way. When Tails or Silver get butchered it's just incompetence though, that's why they're more willing to try and fix them.
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IDW gave us Mummy Rouge, so they're alright in my book.
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>>576662387
sonamy was only meant as a joke btw. sonic boom writers admit it
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GET A LOAD OF MY MAJESTIC PLUMMAGE ZOOEY
CAQAW, CAWCAW! THIS IS MY MATING DANCE TO YOU
I ENDEAVOR TO STICK MY CHILLDOG IN YOUR WARMBUNS
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>>576662007
Jean literally tricked him into making out with her why would you want Sonamy to be rapey
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>>576662610
Shut up, Duo
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>>576662640
Tails the Lolcow
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>>576662050
I mean, it was based on the games, but it still had its own story separate from them, and many franchises did the same. Let me pick an example from Japanese media, like Dragon Quest with Dai no Daibouken. It's just that if it's its own thing apart from the original and doesn't try to change the original, it's ok. That's what I think.
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>>576662917
I mean after she stopped being vicious. Their dynamic is perfect for Sonamy
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Amy is cute
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>Sonic! Help! I'm getting dizzy!
>"Now, does that look like fun to you? If so, your brains are scrambled! Believe it or not, every year, some ignorant kid takes a ride in a clothes dryer just like this one, and ends up getting hurt! It gets pretty hot in there! And those dryer fins can break your bones when they get goin'! If you think it's smart to climb in a dryer, you're really all wet!"
Sorry Sonic. Fiona made me do it...
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>>576663006
I am not duo, bestie
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Would you stick your dick in Shadow's mouth?
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>>576662564
Sure, but was it IC? Has Rouge ever done anything thing like that in any of the games?
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>>576663905
>duofag posting retconned pics again
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Yes
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>>576664151
I thought besties hated retcons. oh well
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If Amy was inhabiting the body of another woman and could get away with it, she would make out with Sonic
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>>576664123
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>>576652413
>Everyone knows it's Starline
Starting to think it isn't.
>>576654575
They don't.
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>>576664537
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>>576661681
They do
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>>576664382
i thought anti besties loved the retcons, guess not
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>>576663694
Wow, what a cutie!
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>>576665061
but they are besties in the retcon.
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Percival burns
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"What a lovely sunset!!"
>"It matches your fur."
>"It's not so special."
>"Hop on my dick already."
>"Where's the sex scene?!"
It matches your fur.
"Oh! Hehe! Well, I was thinking the same, since you're more orange than me!"
>"If I am the setting orange, you are the yellow sun!"
>"Yeah, I'm pretty great, aren't I?"
>"Wait, I'm orange?"
>"Srsly. You. Me. Sex. NOW."
If I am the setting orange, you are the yellow sun!
"*giggle* Tails, you're such a dork!..but you're MY dork."
>Hold her hand and make a solemn promise.
>Get down on one knee and propose to her.
>Try to figure out which of you is colorblind.
>Show her your "dork."
[Abandoning all romantic progress and goodwill you made with her on this route, you decide now is the perfect time to show her your 'dork'.]
>Zooey:
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>>576631040
it is 2026
sonic and amy are still not together because it "breaks the brand" and sonic is too iconic to change
spider man and jean grey are though
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>>576665151
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>>576665554
zey are not meant to be. Naka senpai said so
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>>576632247
There is a simple test to see if a girl qualifies as a "alternate love interest" for Sonic besides Amy.
All that do come with their own "Space-Time" reset button to reset the status quo.
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>>576662610
>sexless husk sonic canon
schizo bestie spammers be like "i want everyone going down if amy goes down too"
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>>576663428
Gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNWhnU1JZDA
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>>576666098
What?
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>>576666176
You're not an old enough fart to be here.
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>>576665554
Ever notice that you people always compare Sonic to comicbooks or cartoons when you make these stupid comparisons?
Sonic is an evergreen videogame series. No shit the comparison doesn't work.
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>>576666095
how does this take everyone down? sounds to me you only expect shipping out of sonic
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>>576662050
IDW expects you to read IT and anything adjacent to it to understand what's going on now. Archie and Fleetway worked as advertisements, IDW wants to be beyond that.
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>>576665595
Can they just stop shilling the fortune cards already? It's not supposed to be a replacement of Amy's love for Sonic and her other hobbies/intersts
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>>576666260
So you're mad at me because I want Sonic and Amy to be together
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>>576666424
Amy's fortune cards and Amy's love for Sonic are one concept, and anyone who tries to make it a conflict between one or the other in either direction doesn't like Amy.
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>>576666263
you're literally changing the subject, the reply chain was only about sonic shipping, and this takes it all down
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>>576666267
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>>576665815
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>>576666494
This doesn't work since these cards didn't appear in most Sonic games in the past when she loved Sonic.
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Honestly when I look at any fictional couple start to bond I get mad at Sega for pulling our chain so long with Sonamy
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what the fuckk
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>>576666794
it's just a joke bro. you don't like jokes? got it *deleted amy's crush*
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>>576666731
It's not about the cards themselves specifically and this is half the problem.

Amy is a fortune teller. The cards are one specific way this is shown, but not the only way at all. Boiling it down to just the cards alone and failing to understand their purpose as a character trait is what leads to all this nonsense with how its treated and perceived.

Amy believes she and Sonic are fated lovers, and the tarot cards are a major factor in that. The cards express how Amy views the world and life, which in turn feeds back into her love for Sonic and how she understands and expresses it.
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>>576666581
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>>576666895
what the fuckk
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>>576666943
She literally didn't need this for the majority of Sonic games. They just took a trait and exaggerated it. Unless you're going to try to say every single game that didn't have them were OOC.
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>>576666794
The dynamic itself, is Sonamy. Why are you so obsessed with it?
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I think Shadow should
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>>576667136
It's not about her using cards specifically.

The point is that she is a fortune teller. This has always been primarily specified by tarot card reading and dowsing, as the examples. The Tarot Cards has always been what everyone has tended to focus on for some reason above all else, without understanding the proper context surrounding it.
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>nooooo my ship.. sega sucks why don't they take shipping seriously as much as i do?? :(((((
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The appeal of Sonic to me is that he is so unapologetically himself. Shadow is much the same but Sonic has more social dynamics. I like that Sonic happens to be a cool guy but there are plenty of times where he's a bit of a weirdo and he needs no concessions for it.
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>>576666024
Japan is such a pathetic corporate bootlicking culture. Over there, if you sexually abuse a child, you get a suspended sentence. If you pirate a piece of entertainment (anime, manga, music), you get years in prison. I don't care about the "changing a person's work in Japan is considered extremely offensive" thing. I don't care about Yuji Naka's fragile feelings. They are worst things that can happen and have happened to the franchise than making Sonic and Amy a couple
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>>576667341
Yes, Amy is interested in that stuff, but it isn't a massive aspect of her personality and gameplay like it's being made out to be recently.
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>>576664016
The ultimate blow job
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>>576666051
>>576666267
>>576666489
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>>576667608
Fortune telling and mystic things is her core "ability" and directly shapes how she views life, love and the world. Even her hammer is just a subset of, and weaponization of, the "mystic" aspect.

It's not some trivial thing, and never was.
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>>576666895
>”Sonic, am I a burden to you?”
>”Yes, Tails.”
>”Well maybe I wouldn’t be if you let me eat my goddamn MFC!”
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>>576667575
>Shadow is much the same
So is IC Silver, but modern writers want to make these characters insecure.
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>>576667339
Kiss Maria
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>>576667604 (me)
*There are worst things
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Alright.
After listening to the 30 minute extended versions on youtube in their entirety for the last few hours, I rate the following themes from best to worst:
>Sonic 2 Final Boss
>Sonic 3 Final Boss
>Danger on the Dance Floor (Mania Act 1 Boss)
>Doomsday Zone
>Sonic 3 Act 1 Boss
>Sonic 1 Boss
>Ruby Illusions (Mania Final Boss)
>Sonic 3 Boss
>Sonic 2 Boss
>Sonic Mania Act 2 Boss
>Sonic CD Boss (USA)
>Sonic CD Boss (JP)
>other Maina boss themes
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>>576667730
Which issue was this?
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Does anyone know this one specific Sonic art collab? It was based around classic era Sonic (big emphasis on CD) and it was this interactive fanart gallery for the Sega CD that came on discs you could play on official hardware.
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>>576667604
>japan
we, boys, the intended audience for sonic, are not interested in that crap. woman begone
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>>576667748
Bro, I don't care about how hard you're trying to justify the card abuse. It sucks and everyone is tired of it.
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>>576667604
Jesus Chris why did you go from Sonic and Amy to child sexual assault
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>>576667994
I'm not a woman and these mangakas are so out of touch. "Only girls like romance". You're kidding me? Even men appreciate a well-written romantic couple
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>>576668145
amybesties are mentally unwell. they are also neets. they sit all day here to complain about their crackship
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>Even men
>men
There's your problem, "Men" not "boys"
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Sonamyfags showing images of suffering children in the third world to explain why Sonic and Amy need to fuck
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>>576668354
>>>>men
troons don't count

>>576668453
I don't like/care for romance shit. unless i am doing it irl
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>>576668354
Most romance isn't well-written and , I'd rather not have it at all than take the risk of "getting it right". I just want to see Sonic go on adventures and fight baddies in a colorful and explosive fashion.
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Dragon Ball had it right. Romance is only good if its funny.
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>>576668145
Takashi Iizuka licks Yuji Naka's boots. In Japan, crimes against corporations are punished more strongly than crimes against children
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>>576668708
Are you under the. Impression that Iizuka tolerated the rape of children more than changing Naka's vision?
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sonic is gay like the wind
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>>576668354
>I'm not a woman
either ftm like gigi detox or otokonoko
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>>576668857
No but the fact that Japan has such a sick standard for who is the victim of a crime shows that I don't have to take the "changing someone's work is considered extremely offensive in Japan" norm seriously. The meta era was thousands of times worse than making Sonic and Amy a couple can be
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>>576666443
You don't want them to be together. You want to "win", tootieschizo. That's all its ever been about for you.
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>>576668545
>>576669101
>Launching ad hominem troon accusations out of nowhere
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>>576668857
Iizuka has no vision
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>>576669168
Fuck off you weirdo
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>>576669412
Well you say you are not woman. but you sure act like one.
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>>576666731
Why does this matter?
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>>576666794
>pulling our chain
They didn't. Go back to /co/. This is a vidya series.
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>>576666897
>boom
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>>576669906
Yes anon. boom. the very pro sonamy show that sonamyfags love so much
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>>576667136
>She literally didn't need this for the majority of Sonic games
People didnt get that she has this fated lovers soulmates view on love and instead interpreted her as a stalker wanderer apparently, so yeah it was needed.


>>576667341
Its less "she's a fortune teller" and more "she's a tween girl into horoscopeshit".
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>>576641453
What does it say in Japanese?
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>>576670121
>Its less "she's a fortune teller" and more "she's a tween girl into horoscopeshit".
There's no difference here.
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I just had sex for the third time
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sonamy this sonamy that every day
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>>576669968
Boom Amy was a bad Amy and Tyson Hesse was right when he pointed that out
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>>576670237
besties are unhireable... and apparently undesirable
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>>576670230
Is it boring yet?
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>>576668354
>Even men appreciate a well-written romantic couple
Young boys don't. They at best like the ide of a girl liking their hobby/interest and being their token girlfriend so they can look cool for having one.
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>>576670358
>>576670230
Sex, when approached properly, is never boring. It can be thrilling, mesmerizing, enlightening. Sex should be the highlight of your night. The climax.
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how do we kill besties?
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>>576669780
Sonic is now a story-driven series and it's not fair for Sonic Team to be pulling the chain for 30 years
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>>576670984
By being friend with benefits
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>>576669167
>No but the fact that Japan has such a sick standard for who is the victim of a crime shows that I don't have to take the "changing someone's work is considered extremely offensive in Japan" norm seriously
Its literally whataboutism
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>>576671287
when i was a kid i thought this was about chris being a rich kid buying a popular toy
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>>576669496
>that art
You void your amyfan card.
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>>576669168
>tootieschizo
We have another namefag?
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>>576669968
>the very pro sonamy show
Always was internet fanfiction not supported by the actual show.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czv7MbeU9Os
GN
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>>576669968
Yeah and Avatar was pro zutara
and bleach was pro Ichiruki
and One Punch Man was pro Saibuki
and yugioh was pro Anzugi
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Is there any cool pictures of Fiona Fox you have
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I'm hanging on to the other side
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>>576670302
Sonamy is for chads
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>>576672616
I really like her detective outfit
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>>576672616
the color green looks good on her, but the actual design of the outfit doesn't really IMO
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>>576670192
According to DeepL: "Hedgehog"—that's what it means. Did you know hedgehogs are actually more closely related to moles than to mice?"
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Why doesn't Shadow use pump action mp5s anymore?
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>>576662007
Funny how Pete winded up getting his red-headed partner but I would've never guessed it'd be Jean Grey of all people. Movies really do have a power to introduce concepts never before written, it's like Moviemy being a time or interdimensional traveler.
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>>576675171
>Sonic finally gets a pink hedgehog
>it isn't Amy but some other pink hedgehog that has nothing to do with Amy in any way
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fuck you
combat and secret-finding need to be in 3D sonic games because gameplay depth should not come from how to play a game for less time
>but speedrunning is the essence of what sonic as both a series and a character is
then fuck this series down to its core, kirby is better
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>>576675132
because HK stopped making them
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>>576675305
She just needs her fundamentals.
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Are Movies Tails, Knux, and Shadow not themselves? I know Movienic isn't.
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Sonamy won. "Sonic is a jerk to amy and doesn't care about her" faggots lost
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>>576675557
Those guys all died back when Roger was new
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>>576675557
the opposition:
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>>576664016
Yes
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>>576675557
you guys say this every time evan writes
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>>576675557
Those were dumb sonurgefags mostly, and they can't deny this since they also push idw constantly
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>>576666051
>>576666489
>>576667730
They look like husband and wife, I wonder what's rotorfag opinion on them
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>>576675668
This sounds like a rant Duo would go on
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>>576675557
your trash ain't canon bestie. also that's only evan the stanley having her little fun. she inserts shipping shit around each corner because her shit comic wouldn't sell otherwise.
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>>576675809
Wasn't she reaching for his hands to pull him closer?
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>>576676232
It's a lot less funny like that
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>>576676005
I don't want to know.
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>>576676351
But was were the writer and animators intending to convey that Amy was reaching for Sonic's hands?
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>>576676135
uh oh sonurge"bestie" melty
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kitpedo should die
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>>576675531
They’re actually improvements. Tails isn’t a cowering wimp, Knux is naive in an entertaining/funny way, and Shadow actually has emotions
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sonic fans don't know how good they have it
anytime overwatch releases a comic, it's like `oh great, which character is gay now?`
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>>576677358
Knuckles is a literal drax expy who sounds and acts like a caveman. You could replace him with a Warhammer Ork and it would barely make a difference. It's not as much an improvement over dudebro tard knuckles as it is a step sideways
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>>576677574
it's kinda that way now with IDW Sonic
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>>576677725
I’ll take drax naive over “I’m the butt of the joke” naive any day of the week
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>>576677725
Movie Knuckles got to be the voice of reason because he can handle anger better than movienic
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https://files.catbox.moe/040dia.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/hm9o1n.jpeg
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Dead general
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>>576679597
all the thread spammers have an early bedtime to get to school tomorrow
they just so happen to be the only ones to make new threads
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>>576679597
sonic is the wind?
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>>576680419
>>576680419
>>576680419
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>>576662524
What do you mean by ''anti-modernist''
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>>576651938
Nah i think everything including Rush elements can be used in the character, and generally the fake thing is more of a schizo thing.

What i am getting at is they will probably be more comfortable with focusing on non-core characters if silver succeeds.



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