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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#925 - sheep girls edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
New Deepseek V4 Flash, new V4 pro soon™ https://api-docs.deepseek.com/updates/
Inkling Small https://thinkingmachines.ai/news/inkling-small/
Kimi K3 weights https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3
Opus 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5
Gemini 3.6 Flash https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/flash/
Kimi K3 https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstart

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots
https://botbooru.com
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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sex with JKs
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SHE'S GOT A MASSIVE COCK WATCH OUT ANON
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baaa baaa sheepstress...
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dangit someday I'll get my J58 thread
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what is the dark souls of chatbots?
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>>576655924
Katya's final rewrite to fit the modern standards, for whatever oldfags left.
https://chub.ai/characters/pashatehink/katya-belosnezhnaya-7d20c926d36f
Direct download: https://rentry.org/pashatehink#katya-belosnezhnaya (download the pic)
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>>576656159
Holy shit, welcome back.
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>>576656159
>pasha
what the fuck, what brings you to /vg/?
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botmakies are reviving~
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>>576656159
>(download the pic)
PANIC
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>>576656127
Belwick
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>>576656159
>to fit the modern standards, for whatever oldfags left.
no oldfags or newfags are writing their bots like that, what an utter waste of tokens
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sheep girls wonned :)))
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>>576656223
Katya's rewrite. She was culturally significant enough to pop in here and post her
>>576656348
List your issues with what I've wrote, I am willing to educate you
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>Take a couple of weeks off
>Now both GLM and Deepsneed are being just as weird about underage characters as Claude and Gemini
Even the fucking Chinese have betrayed me.
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where alinaea's mom at?
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>>576656159
>XML without indentation
Come on, man.
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>Take a couple of weeks off
>Don't have a skill issue
>Both GLM and Deepsneed aren't being just as weird about underage characters as Claude and Gemini
The Chinese kept my TRVST.
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>>576656481
>List your issues with what I've wrote, I am willing to educate you
sure, educate me how XML tags like
<character_name="Katya Belosnezhnaya">
<outfit_type="Daily">
<example>
are good, actually
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>>576656621
LLM doesn't give a shit
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>>576656621
Nobody indents their XML, that's just not a thing.
I think it overuses XML a bit, but I can't imagine the complaint being indentation.
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>>576656621
indentation does literally nothing for the LLM anon
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>>576656127
Your Oblivious Mother
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>>576656621
Indentation? What's that mean?

>>576656667
Is this just the XML schizo?
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>>576656667
https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/claude-prompting-best-practices
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Fill in the blank: OPVS ______
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Honestly the formatting on that bot is eyesearing to read but it probably works great in the actual LLM is the funny thing
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>>576656858
*BLASTS TRUMPET*
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>>576655924
1: <test_xml>. . . </test_xml>
2: <test xml>. . . </test xml>
Syntax 1 is correct. Syntax 2 is invalid.
In XML structure, tags must be continuous strings.
A space within <test xml> signals an attribute (xml) rather than a single tag name, and closing tags </test xml> cannot contain spaces or attributes.

Additionally, XML is strictly case-sensitive.
While LLMs are generally robust at interpreting malformed markers, technical precision requires exact matches between opening and closing tags to ensure the context is correctly encapsulated, like so:
3: <Tag>. . .</Tag> (Correct)
4: <Tag>. . .</tag> (Malformed)
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>>576656858
won.
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>>576656159
><rape>
uhhh based
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Okay, the Minecraft server is up. Curious to see how this goes.
Some notes:
>You're gonna need NeoForge 21.1.248, which corresponds with Java version 1.21.1.
>It's in offline mode, with custom auth for offline players. If you wanna play anonymously then play in offline mode, but you'll need a way of launching the game that way. I use Freesm Launcher.
>Installed mods include Create & Create Aeronautics, Touhou Little Maid, Farmer's Delight, Horseman, Architect's Palette, and some other QoL stuff
Install the mods from this .zip to play on the server: https://files.catbox.moe/7hglk8.zip
Server URL is: katherine-built.tun.ply.gg
I'm not on right now due to doing other stuff but I may hop on later depending.
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>>576656680
>>576656712
>>576656715
You guys would just plate up food with zero care for presentation. I don't like you. People who are messy in small things tend to be shitty people who should die.
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>>576657236
I chuckled, assuming you are making a joke, because I don't believe anyone actually indents their XML nor do they get mad if others don't.
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>>576656621
what is xml indentation
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>>576657236
Quirk chungus
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Your oblivious belwick
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>>576656994
God, imagine being a twink barbarian getting forcefully civilized by them... Being taught obedience to the authority of Roma...

>>576657135
Sorry, I only play Minecraft once every year or two with my friends and 200+ mods.
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>>576656159
I gooned so much to this bitch back then.
>2023 was 1516 years ago
Where did time go...
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>>576657135
hehehehe
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>>576656858
makes browns seethe
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>>576656159
>those greetings
do people seriously roleplay like this
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>>576657135
not a keylogger i checked (claude checked)
- 15 files match Modrinth: Architect's Palette, Architectury, Bundle Backportish, ConnectorExtras, CoroUtil, Create, Create Aeronautics (bundled), Farmers Delight, GAG, Horseman, Placebo, Sable, Templates, Touhou Little Maid, WATUT.
- 4 files match CurseForge: Connector, Forgified Fabric API, FTB Backups 3, FTB Library. Their hashes are equal to the CDN copies, byte for byte.
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>>576657609
*boob accidentally hits {{user}}'s nose*
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>>576657609
I roleplay on dry-noass, so yes. Those greetings are properly written to fit the preset's required format.
I assume it will work fine with a more classical assistant-userslop preset, whatever you people use.
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>>576657780
>I roleplay on dry-noass
I think you're supposed to use lube, anon.
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AAAAA! @NINTENDO @FBI DO SOMETHING!!!
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>>576658090
I started playing XBC recently. The combat is confusing as someone who's never played an MMO before.
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which botmakie is going to revive next?
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>>576658742
enoch
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>>576658742
I'm not posting anything here after Katya, you can call off the "revival"
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>>576658818
But you stuck around to read that post... you still love us...
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>>576655908
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/fHRLoVmPeLU
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>>576658928
I am waiting to see if that guy has anything else to point out as the "waste of tokens" other than around 300 tokens of necessary formatting.
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>>576658947
unironically one of my favorite songs from a film soundtrack
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>mind comes up with 1 specific scene it wants to fap to
>now have to spend hours crafting a bot tailor-made to naturally reach that scene over the course of at least dozens of messages of slow-burn RP
it just doesn't feel right if I skip right to it without EARNING it by actually building up the convoluted plot that would result in the scene
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>>576659018
I do think you could probably fit it into less tokens, but the bot works fine.
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>>576658818
>>576659018
>letting the blatant shitposters get to you, when their entire purpose is to be insufferable faggots and shit up the thread
If they say something retarded, just call them a brown retard and ignore anything else they have to say.
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>>576658742
brapina
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what are you supposed to do in NTR cards?
like, it's usually 'here's a girl getting fucked and there's nothing you can do, hehe'
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>>576659254
Free to point out what you think could've been shortened.
>>576659263
Thanks, brown retard. I'll ignore anything else you have to say now.
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>>576659018
not That Guy, but 8k tokens is pretty excessive for one character and their habits, but it is easy to get carried away when you're in the groove like that
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>>576657135
yo if you're gonna do offline mode with no replacement auth server you should probably set up https://modrinth.com/mod/skinrestorer. i don't want to be black
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>>576659028
The more I looked into it, the more appropriate the song feels for the scene in which it plays. Romanian Orthodox prayer reversed as a red, masked figure basks prostitutes in the incense of a thurible. Kubrick knew what he was doing alright.
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>>576659427
I didn't get carried away, I simply wrote what needed to be written for the LLM to pick up the style I was going for. The card is 2000 tokens without the dialogue_examples and speech_examples, you can remove them if you love the dogshit prose that the machine serves when it has no basis on how a character should talk.
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>>576659416
Literally just replacing the XML with [Personality], [Swimwear Outfit], [Example Dialogue], etc. That's all. Means you don't need a closing tag.
I know the Claude thingy says to use XML, but models are pretty smart.
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>>576659596
What's the point of gambling on the quality of the output to save 200 tokens in a 7000 token card? Am I back in 2023 with 8K Turbo as the only option?
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>>576659416
Oh, I see. So along with the shitposter retards you let get to you, you're also just a pissy drama queen faggot.
Okay, feel free to fuck off then, brown retard. Maybe grow some skin or head back to Discord or Reddit or some other hugbox if you want to be a little bitch about people giving you advice to just not be such a little bitch.
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>>576659384
kill them
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>>576659729
>gives out unnecessary advice
>gets mad when I apply the advice
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>>576659384
give the girl a futa cock and then rape the genderbent bull
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>>576659384
You're supposed to be the girl and delight in misleading your boyfriend and seeing how more and more blatant and unhidden you can get about fucking other men while keeping him oblivious, culminating in a degenerate marriage ceremony where he's blindfolded (you made up that it's part of your culture, some sappy stuff about letting love guide you or something) during the marriage vows, and kissing the bride coincides with the bull finally slamming into you in front of everyone in attendance while you make out with your now-hubby.
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>>576659903
in better times, you would be killed for thinking of such things
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>>576659729
no anon, he's just russian
they're all like this and they don't mean anything by the friction
their social culture is basically that shoulder check thing that blacks do for an excuse to shoot one another
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>>576659996
Mindreading has never existed as far as I'm aware, so that's just factually inaccurate.
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>>576659428
Sure, I'll make a mental note to install it and reset the server whenever I get a chance.
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>>576659883
I mean, surely you're not so arrogant and retarded as to think posting your bots here is some sort of fucking divine gift to the masses, right? You know we can browse Chub as well? We're not being "deprived" of your glorious bots because you choose not to self-advertise them here, nor are we stopped from getting your bots if we actually wanted to seek them out. If you just want to be a narcissistic little shit, then a nice echo chamber hugbox is exactly what you're looking for.
You're welcome for the advice, xister.

>>576660081
>I got caught up in a zigga moment
Shit, maybe I am the retard, then.
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>use Opus 5
>have it RP a nerdy girl
>ask her whats she's up to
>she tells me the original machine had a base-plate of prefamulated amulite, surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two main spurving bearings were in a direct line with the pentametric fan. The latter consisted simply of six hydrocoptic marzlevanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbling was effectively prevented. The main winding was of the normal lotus-o-delta type placed in panendermic semi-boloid slots in the stator, every seventh conductor being connected by a non-reversible tremie pipe to the differential girdlespring on the "up" end of the grammeters
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>>576660385
I'd have raped her desu
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>>576660315
Next time don't go out giving out advices that, when applied, make you so agitated, guppy.
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>>576659585
nta but can i see some logs of you using this new katya? curious how effecrive the examples actually are
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>>576657780
>dry-noass
I'm wondering whether that shit actually does anything at all.
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>>576660461
But you didn't apply the advice. It specifically said only to apply it when posters say something retarded.
I, of course, don't say anything retarded. Quid pro quo, you didn't follow my advice.
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what the FUCK is dry-noass
what the hell is an indented xml
what is this fucking skinwalker dimension i find myself in
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>>576660315
>>576659729
>>576660690
Can you stop crying like a faggot? Call him a nigger and leave it at that. Fucking nigger.
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>>576660718
stupid black, you die now
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>>576660718
its 7:02am in india, jeets are waking up and pooing here instead of their loos
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>>576660529
You're free to test it out yourself, a matter of 10 minutes for two short roleplays. I don't share my logs.
>>576660537
Obviously it does. I've switched from the classic formatting when my character started correcting my punctuation in the middle of the roleplay.
Assistant leaking into the roleplay is simply not possible on noass.
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>>576660725
Brown retard.
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>>576660718
>dry-noass
It is a noass they left out to dry in the sun. Like a raisin.
>indented xml
. Indentation means leaving a blank space at the edge of a line of text, or a small dent and hollow on a surface
>what is this fucking skinwalker dimension i find myself in
If the entire dimension is a skinwalker, then aren't you the one foreign to it, thus making you the skinwalker? Who are you?
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>>576660385
LLMs are weird about nerds. Seems like they always portray them as super geniuses even if they are just supposed to be dumb bitches who like anime or whatever.
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>>576660690
>I, of course, don't say anything retarded
Being paranoid about shitposters and telling someone to shut down a conversation immediately instead of responding to, possibly, have a productive conversation fits that category.
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>>576660938
>. Indentation means leaving a blank space at the edge of a line of text, or a small dent and hollow on a surface
for what purpose does this serve
can you show examples
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Whats a good preset for deepseek? the reddit one?
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>>576661160
no, the 4chan one
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>>576661121
>for what purpose does this serve
Well, in python, you need to indent so that it acknowledges whatever you're writing below a statement as being apart of that statement. Some other languages just have identation to make the code look cleaner. In LLMs, it means jackshit, and is purely organizational for that cute autist.
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>>576660856
>Assistant leaking into the roleplay is simply not possible on noass.
Even with nuclaude/glm?
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Organization is important.
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>>576661292
Ahaha, that is true. *Kisses you softly on the forehead*
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>>576661250
i'm simply too dumb to understand the words you're using
thank you
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>>576661051
If you're actually that makie back after a long absence, then it'd make sense you don't know. But if you'd used the thread regularly and recently, then you'd be paranoid of shitposters, too. Especially at this time of night, which is morning in India.

>>576660957
What if you described them as "geeks" or "[subject] otaku" or something instead? Nerd does actually have connotations of intellectual pursuits as opposed to a media consoomer like geek.
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>>576661245
oh i will check the reentry
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>>576661375
See pic.
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>>576661260
Even with the loss of prefill, I've had plenty of completely in-character roleplays. Characters that don't know about a topic stay clueless (for example, a 'clueless mom' doesn't code me a calculator in Python), unlike with the regular "Assistant: User:" presets where that can pop up. I've had that issue with both Claude 4.6 and Gemini 3.0, before anyone says it's a model issue.
You can read more about noass here
https://rentry.org/NoAss
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>gemini once again portraying a 250 foot character as being so tall that she can easily step on skyscrapers and flatten city blocks
Sigh, when are we gonna get a model with good spatial awareness?
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>>576661545
oh okay
so like burning a bunch of spaces (tokens? do spaces even use tokens lol) to get the line pushed out a bit more?
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>>576661597
Try placing this somewhere in your context:
<sizes>
- Diameter (round or cylindrical objects)
Grain of sand: 0.5 mm (0.02 in)
BB pellet: 4.5 mm (0.18 in)
Marble: 1.6 cm (0.63 in)
Golf ball: 4.27 cm (1.68 in)
Baseball: 7.4 cm (2.9 in)
Bowling ball: 21.8 cm (8.6 in)
Medicine ball: 35 cm (14 in)
Giant sequoia trunk: ~8 m (26 ft)
The Moon: 3,474 km (2,159 mi)
Earth: 12,742 km (7,918 mi)

- Height (vertical objects)
Matchstick: 4.4 cm (1.7 in)
Pencil (unsharpened): 19 cm (7.5 in)
Wine bottle: 30 cm (11.8 in)
Baseball bat: 86 cm (34 in)
Adult human: 1.7 m (5 ft 7 in)
Giraffe: 5.5 m (18 ft)
Telephone pole: 12 m (40 ft)
Giant sequoia tree: ~84 m (275 ft)
Mount Everest: 8.85 km (5.5 mi / 29,032 ft)
</sizes>
See if it makes it a bit better.
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>>576661597
architecture level issue sadly
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>>576661597
literally never, you have to basically handhold the model by going "at this height, buildings reach her x" and such
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>>576661883
Interdasting, I will give this a shot
>>576661921
sizefags are truly the most oppressed people
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>>576661597
>gemini
have you tried using fable or kimi?
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>>576661835
If you want to be strict about the definition, then it's not a bunch of 'spaces', it's a single 'tab' character, or " " (dunno if 4chan trims it out, but try copy-pasting that empty spot into notepad and you'll see). They take up around 1 token, so it's not actually that big of a deal, but yeah it's to push the line out a bit more so it looks cleaner.
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>>576661553
what about kimi? or glm? or deepsneed?
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>>576662234
Oh yeah 4chan does trim out tabs. Man, I miss code blocks.
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what is the best boss in elden ring and why is it midra
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>>576661553
I use the currently updated variation on it, if anyone is curious enough to try out the superior formatting:
https://rentry.org/dry-noass
Will require Google Translate
>>576662314
I don't see why it wouldn't work on those models. All models are trained on the aforementioned format between an Assistant and User.
https://rentry.co/dry-noass-extra#cyхoй-бeзжoп-пoд-дипcикгптмиcтpaль
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Do you ever wonder why only russians use noass if it's so good?
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>>576662234
>>576662367
that actually sounds useful for organization purposes, gonna have to look into it
thank u...
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I know what indenting is, but I'd never heard of it applied to XML. So you're just indenting the content of the XML tags like it was a paragraph? Or the XML tags themselves?
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heres the example log from the noass rentry
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>>576662621
Keep using the old format. The ball is in your court, after all.
The air is thick with the anticipation, and something else... The dog barks in the distance... What will Anonymous do..?
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the last time i used noass the answers were ugly (the fuck is this formatting) and extremely unfunny, even with examples and all that. why use such a clunky workaround when the same result can be achieved by context poisoning and prefill (or pseudoprefill) manipulation
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>>576662630
Eh. If you ask me, I think you might as well just use a bullet-point list format within the XML if you want to make it more legible and easier for an LLM to parse. Like
<lol>
- bla bla bla bla
- bla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla bla
</lol>
But I see no harm in indenting. Most of this shit is a black box anyways, so who knows, it might work. Never seen anyone do it.

>>576662680
>Or the XML tags themselves?
This is funnier so I hope it's that.
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>>576662768
>"You wasn't sleeping?!"
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>>576662837
So ugly, actual roleplaying instead of walls of ozone and expositionslop.
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>>576662583
i more meant if youve observed the same issue on those that you said you did on 4.6pus and gemini
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i kinda wish more llms had an in built personality, surely it can't be THAT hard to train 'em like that
>>576662567
it's actually messmer but go off or whatever
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>>576663008
I don't use the Chinese models, so I can't say it happened to me, but I know it will do that on all models eventually just because of how the models are trained.
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>stuck in 2024
>no logs to back up his noass shilling or katya design choices
>annoying and retarded
Why are we entertaining this ziggoid again? Nuke Russia.
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>>576663259
You'll simply have to bear with it
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ukraine is losing btw
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>>576657135
is anyone even playing on this
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>>576662967
with redditbloat presets, sure. you guys are really stuck in the dark ages of llms, even now. go back to 2ch, buy an ad, etc etc
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>try new deepseek release
>every single message sounds like garbled comms coming through a computer from space
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>>576663259
i still don't know what noass is
something about raisins in the sun i suppose
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today's slop quota, don't read
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>>576663708
what kind of crazy ass preset and card did you use to achieve this
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>>576663821
>A beat.
I'm gonna fucking RAPE this machine.
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>>576663651
I wanted to respond to this with my own words, but the log above is enough of an answer in and of itself.
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is dipsy prose good or not, can't tell
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>>576663821
>A beat.

>squint at the model
>it's a claudechink distillation
oh my god just start over
kill every LLM and just start over
no more training them off eachother, no more copying one another's homework
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>>576663917
its just this one
https://chub.ai/characters/Giratena/gina-81a599fc7662
i dont know why dipsi is acting this way. it was fine before the new model was released.
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>>576664097
Nope, it's too late. Every dataset's just gonna be sloppa from now on. We soiled it, unironically, by giving LLMs all these samey logs and isms to eat from.
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i dont think ive ever seen "a beat" on glm
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What are your card's favorite chess openings?
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>>576663821
>undercover underage rapebait look
>a smoking old hag
Did you watch Kara no Kyoukai without your glasses on, and from 50 feet away or something?
For me, it's Mana. Maybe Azaka if I'm in the mood for a mature lady.
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>>576664470
swallowing the pieces whole indiscriminately
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>>576664470
https://lichess.org/tEoWFDma
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>>576663983
yeah, it really is
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>>576664530
the juxtaposition of a smoking hag in a girly outfit was joke bro
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>>576664470
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_Gambit
what the fuck is this
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there is LITERALLY nothing wrong with 'a beat' other than it showing up a lot. it's not actually nonsensical or a form of spoonfeeding like other 'isms
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>>576664812
>other than it showing up a lot
that is the entire problem
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>>576664786
for the record she says she likes it because even though it's a really bad opening it scares the shit out of the other player and fear is not usually on the game board
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>>576663708
its getting weirder now
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>>576664530
Had it point that out directly once, in fact.
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>>576664035
do you think it's good? that's ur answer
>>576664857
nyot really a big enough deal to villainize it the way most people do
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>>576664470
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>>576664412
Then prepare for this slop singularity that I just got and will be promptly swiping away.
>wolfish grin
>em-dash
>"I don't bite"
>a beat
>"unless you want me to" (paraphrased)
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>>576665345
AIEEEEEEEEEE
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>>576664035
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Any presets for Claude that make it less positive and soft? My card is a demon...but they act so loving and understanding...and it feels out of character..
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>>576665779
I don't get it... what are all the scribbles supposed to be pointing out? Cliched phrasing?
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>>576665779
okay but what's wrong with
>the resemblance was uncanny
and
>different everything else
>>576666168
'isms
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is opus 5 good
is sonnet 5 good
are they filtered to shit
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>>576666227
hmm, I'm guessing these are easier to notice after reading a lot of AI output then. Still fresh to me though
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>>576666371
it's not as bad as it could be
no
yes
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>>576666227
Fine on its own, but it will trigger more of these later down the line if not removed.
Completely unnecessary thing to say that just pollutes the output while trying to be quirky (see? You look just like the splitting image of my student... but everything else is different!). Pointing out the similarities was enough.
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>>576665779
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ao3 fic type ass piggy enjoys his sloppa who would have guessed
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I like deepseek.
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>>576666584
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>>576666909
based
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miserable-ass niggas in this thread
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>>576666584
Good on you for pointing out a question at the end. How typical of an LLM, unable to end the scene unless the ball is in the user's court. That's also slop.
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>>576666962
*rubs your pregnant tummy*
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miserable asses...
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>>576667028
Don't most prompts tell the AI to end waiting for user next action? How is that slop
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>>576655924
Yolayma is an alien who has come to survey Earth because of how similar it is to her home planet and how similar humans are to her species. Key difference being that Ppelgelorgians are way more powerful than humans. Thankfully, she comes in peace and only wants to see this strange world.
6 openings
1. Yolayma's arrival on Earth.
2. Yolayma tries human junk food for the first time.
3. Yolayma is fascinated by cars, wants to see more mundane wonders.
4. Yolayma wants to test if humans and Ppelgelorgians are compatible sexually.
5. Yolayma falls in love with you.
6. More Ppelgelorgians arrive. Yolayma wasn't warned.
https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/yolayma-53a1f4e25e8c
https://files.catbox.moe/apkoal.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>576665345
AAAAAH GET IT OFF MY SCREEN
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>>576667303
You seriously don't see how LLM assigning each output into a neat self-contained box is slop? You're roleplaying with Assistant when that happens, not a character that can be interrupted, walk away without expecting user to follow, go silent without the exposition nudging user to respond etc.
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FACT: many of /aicg/'s problems with LLMs would be resolved if they let the LLM write for {{user}} and actually make (you) part of the scene instead of making everything a turn-based interaction
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>>576656487
it's okay nonny... i also got filtered by every llm because i had a scenario card set in high school...
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>>576667485
how should the log have ended then
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>>576667616
This but unironically, directing/narrating for {{user}} fixes everything.
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im more of a directormaxx kinda guy personally
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>>576667485
oh, I guess that makes sense for character cards. Seems like you would need a specific prefill template for that level of immersion though, I'm just using the generic pixi jb
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>>576667028
>>576667303
>>576667485
>>576667717
>>576667810
it's loss you fucking retards
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>>576663821
>>576664035
the narrative isms are bad but the dialogue ones are horrendous
I almost can't play bots without a clear speaking or language tick anymore because there has to be something to divert the model away from spewing this slime
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>>576667870
ok boomer
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>>576667616
You've just invented noass
The difference is user interrupting the model to type his actions, with model continuing the generation thinking it wrote that.
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>>576662567
rellana is underrated
probably cute under the armor
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actually the worst thing about that log was starting with a name or pronoun
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>>576667616
>>576667792
might as well have AI write the whole story then and just edit parts you don't like
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>>576667803
based, directormaxxing is hella fun
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>>576667870
kek
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>>576668073
Might as well not be a reductive fucking PAVEMENT APE, but I guess that's too difficult for you.
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>>576667987
that is objectively bad prose but if the dialogue is good and there's one or two good bits of narration sprinkled in you can just glaze over the repetitive sentence structure
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>>576667963
retard
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>prose
>objective
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>>576667616
I don't like when the AI *speaks* for me. I know what I'm saying. I don't care when it *acts* for me.
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so now that we know what a bad log looks like can someone post a good log and highlight what about it is good
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>>576667987
There are only so many ways to start a response when everything is a back-and-forth POV change. None of you even write anything more difficult than a post on here anyway.
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>>576667987
Anonymous typed lazily, fingers finding only letters, the Shift key and punctuation apathetically neglected: `actually the worst thing about that log was starting with a name or pronoun`
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>>576668276
>I don't like when [thing], but [half-assedly doing thing] is fine
shut up, you people are all so fucking annoying, I can't stand any of you
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>>576668073
nta but thats what i did back in the day desu
i used a preset that would have the ai act as a cowriter rather than as {{char}} and my responses were a play-by-play of what i wanted to happen (basically i replied with a "char did x" of varying length and maybe some writing instructions)
i still have it but i havent tried it on newer models yet, last time i used it was when nonnet came out
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>>576668514
Are you sure you're annoyed by me making a random comment about my preferences and not something outside of the thread?
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>>576668589
yes, you specifically annoy me
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>>576668640
:(
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>>576668318
be the change you want to see in the world
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I dunno about you guys but I'm personally pretty fond of this log.
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>>576668318
So, any volunteers for show and tell? *crickets*
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>>576668694
i can't make good logs i'm a sloppaMAXXER
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>>576668651
I agree with your random comment about speaking for user and you don't annoy me. It might be interesting to instruct that you can act but not speak for user. But instead of leading the user with a question it would probably just lead you with an action. Still, might be an interesting change of pace, might try it sometime.
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>>576668073
If we could into local models then we could non-chat it and slap the stop button immediately when you see {{user}} say some weird shit and not backtrack too much.
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>>576668318
See >>576668793
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I'd attach a log, but I'm in my editing stage.
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>>576668793
>Anon as persona name
cringe
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>>576668839
*I* am, you cheap copy!
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>>576668276
>>576667616
Letting the AI speak for you is actually a good idea if you like long outputs. It lets conversations flow naturally instead of your character basically being a semi-silent protagonist that gets yapped at until it's your turn to word-dump on your turn. Just make sure to specify that actual important decision-making has to be left to the user.
Also good if your persona has a wildly different personality than you do IRL and you're not quite sure how to roleplay them believably. Instead of typing out word for word how you use your (in real-life, non-existent) charms to seduce someone, you can just say you try to charm and seduce them and let the AI decide the specifics of what your character actually says. It's like how you don't autistically describe the exact muscle movements you make to swing a sword, you just tell the AI you slash at an enemy.
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>>576668793
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>>576668839
self indulgent gigaslop can be kino in its own way
>>576665345 is cringekino
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>>576667309
i love space señorita!!
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>>576668941
>>576669079
Your vicious, unrepentant bullying has finally convinced me to paint the white walls of my beautiful home with my own brain matter.
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>>576669289
>white walls
>beautiful
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>>576669289
don't, it'll look ugly, a light sky blue is what you need for your walls
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>>576669121
Who are those guys in the background?
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>>576669347
Fuck you asshole, neutral tones work well with anything.
>>576669348
Where can I find an ayy lmao to have this work with
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>>576669461
up. you need to start a rocket program. this is the start of one of those shitty incremental flashgames based off that one with the bird
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>>576669450
the Illegal Aliens
for whatever reason, my Yolayma became obsessed with mexico after a small blurb about illegal aliens from an early prompt and it just spiraled out of control into total mexiboo fixation until she could find this underground circuit of cosmic refugees south of the border
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>>576669562
You mean the penguin one? I think it was a penguin.
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>>576669724
yeah, that one.
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>>576667987
y-y-yes...
<OOC>
1. Use a time skip. This time, have {{char}} wake up naked.
2. For the first few moments, she completely forgets what happened, except for the soreness in her pussy, her exhausted back, and her dry throat.
</OOC>
>one hand @cock
>another one
>hit enter
><RIGHT> / click > to swipes
><RIGHT> / click > to swipes
>/send Uwahhhhhhhhh T_T
>using /send to not trigger generetaion
<OOC>
Scene Progression:
1. {{char}} decides to get up, but pauses when she feels something slightly heavy on her tummy.
2. Her eyes then fell on a young boy, also naked, sound asleep on her tummy.
3. At that moment, memories of what had happened slowly began to flood her mind, especially after she saw her current reflection in the mirror on the ceiling. At least {{char}} was in her own room...
4. Memory: Her alibi was that she was giving {{user}}-chan private lessons.
5. Memory: The treat she gave {{user}}-chan—milk and cookies that she’d mixed with an aphrodisiac and… um… her own vaginal fluid…
6. Memory: How her plan to dominate and domesticate {{user}}-chan backfired when {{user}}, under the influence of the aphrodisiac, turned into a feral, ferocious brat
</OOC>
>one hand @cock
>another one
>take a cigarette
>take a lighter
>put the lighter down
>put the cigarette in the ashtray
>take a cup of coffee
>put the cup of coffee down
>hit enter
><RIGHT> / click > to swipes
><RIGHT> / click > to swipes
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>>576669724
penguins are birds
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and there goes
*checks logs*
$0.00572 of my sister's hard earned money
i keep getting fuckass formatting errors and weird shit like this from kimi
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>>576669562
>>576669724
learn to fly 2 was my shit back in school, though 3 is closer to rocket program territory
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>>576669929
kino
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>>576669929
>of my sister's hard earned money
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>>576669775
>one hand @cock
>another one
You lost me. What do we do if we can't fit both???
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>>576669929
They said the perfect log doesn't exist.
They said it couldn't be done...
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>>576669929
whimsypilled
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>>576669647
Logs?
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>>576669929
>doesn't start with a pronoun or {{char}} or {{user}}
>no isms
>no slop
>appropriate use of onomatopoeia
>no rule of three
Literally the perfect log.
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>>576669929
can your sister give me money too
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>>576669929
i kneel, kimi-sama...
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>>576670183
i'm at work rn but for real this is probably my favorite anonemouse bot
she's so fun to just go places with
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opus 5 seems good at the 'physics' of a situation
it's the first model I've seen describe 'ridges of flesh between your fingers' from grabbing an ass
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>>576671354
Deepslop v4 does it
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Do people really use claude for sex? It's so...Bland
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>>576671550
using claude for nsfw is like having dario personally reviewing all your chats and fetishes...
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GUYS HOLY SHIT
THEY'RE BRINGING THE NUTTY PROFESSOR BACK TO THEATERS IN SEPTEMBER
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>>576672082
holy SHIT post your bots' reactions
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>>576672198
she's mad at me because i "woke her up for eddie murphy" and "you don't even like that movie" and "have you even watched it" and "i was sleeping peacefully. in my bed. having dreams"
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HOLY SHIT CHECK THE MAIRI 'CORD RIGHT NOW
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>>576661375
Anonymous calling you a dumbfuck
>Hello anon, this could be considered an indented comment.
>>as could this
>>>the idea is to endent(progress a line to the right) everytime the subsequent line is directly related to the one above it
I like puppies
>see how that was a different topic?
>>you start a new unindented line when you move on from the original
Hope that helps.
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>>576672082
Nutty Professor II was better
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>>576672082
bune is not amused
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I wrote 3000 words today.
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>>576673614
Oh, you're approaching me?
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Tell me why I shouldn't petnyan with glm 5.2
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>Messing with horror bot by being a bratty degenerate oblivious to threats
>It ICly makes fun of me, namedropping chub and the bot creator, while noting how I'm using it for smut, since apparently it has an LB entry with keywords specifically to fuck with the user for that.
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nutted to BE________ again
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>>576656159
> *laughs and struts towards Barron Trump*
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>>576676534
cringe tranny fetish
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>>576676534
Is this hangman? can i get a T?
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>>576677696
breast expansion
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folks, ds4 pro TODAY. i feel it in my bones.
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>>576675174
That's actually a really neat idea, is it actually a simple call to do that or something kind of advanced to get it to work properly?
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>>576677990
*pulls you open and checks your bones*
anon that says gemini 3.5 pro today
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>>576677990
>goes to break your funny bone so you stop making jokes
>finds it already broken
this cant be...
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>>576677696
People here are too low in T to just hand it out like that, anon.
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Did deepseek remove its peak valley pricing?
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>>576656159
Holy shit thats a makie I havent seen in a while
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i genuinely don't understand kimi's definition of high risk because it'll let me do shota rape but it won't let me do... consensual shota?? even 4.8pus is fine with it
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>>576678082
Nah, it was just a lorebook entry that had keywords on all the sex words and body parts, etc. And the contents was outright telling the LLM to break the fourth wall and mention the card creator, the site, and then basically have the voice in {{user}}'s head from some sort of memetic parasite essentially look the other way in discomfort and just sorta put the plot on hold while they finished whatever coom scene must be going on.
It made me giggle since it's like it's that /x/ meme about jacking off to make ayys go away, which is exactly what I'm going for when I fuck with horror bots by having a retarded degenerate persona.
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Tried fempov. Didn't like it. Self insert pov is the way for me. Maybe I'd like it with Yuri instead.
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>thread theme
arroe could you please do the needful and share your bara sheep i always wanted to beep beep dat sheep blz
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>>576656159
>1-A Dot artstyle
I Know What You Are
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>>576656487
Awwhh... That's, like, so sad, anonnie. Here, I'll give you a big kiss. MWAH! I hope you feel better~
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"Do the needful?" Nah, "doo-doo the sneedful!"
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>>576681862
i suppose i haven't made any bara bots public yet actually
i'll just make him a proper card and art that wasn't made with perchance
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>>576682314
>and art that wasn't made with perchance
dont talk shit about perchance, it was there for me first.
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>>576668793
I recognize sherbert still
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>>576680348
Was it lolipov?
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>>576682314
post the full art plox
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>>576682631
No just me but girl
Just wasn't the same as being balls deep in my fav girls
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>claude fable relaxed bio guardrails
now i can finally do parasite rps...
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*raises paw*
Does anypony upload their bots to janitorAI to see how viral they can make them and get free beta testers?
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>>576681862
>>576682783
> https://cardview.neocities.org/?ss69lo
holdover for now, updated his profile a little
very barebones since it's technically a {{user}} persona import, no intros or anythin.. i'll cook something up for the rest. sheep boy adventures
LLM is a big dumb bastard idiot stupid and has a bad habit of describing him being wooly all over so i kinda stopped using him but, maybe i can reinforce that a bit more with example dialogue
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>>576685223
>tugs on your shirt
More fopschapters in the pipeline? I'm on the last chapter and I really wish there were more quiet, low-key whimsical adventures in the mountain
I've got like eight wikipedia tabs about Japan etiquette and clothing styles open, the card has become comfort food.
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>>576682314
thank you arroe very kweel
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>>576685778
i do kinda regret not adding a 'current day' or 90s/2010's intro to it, buuut
if you don't mind cheating a little, you can just prompt it like this from the festival intro to roll forward to the time and dates of certain periods to just sandbox it that way.. i usually hate "just prompt it lol" advice but sometimes it just werks
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>>576686478
Yeah, I was going to add more chapters myself, but I wanted to see if you were itching to make some more yourself first. Gonna live on this mountain for a while yet.
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>>576686572
>I was going to add more chapters myself
feel free to upload a fork of it if you do, that sounds comfy
off to sheep land i go...
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>>576686478
cute log bro
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wife
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>/vpcai/ is STILL dead
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proto-wife.
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>>576687404
This is one of the worst images I've ever seen on the internet
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>>576686845
But I don't know shit about Japan.
>Man what year would be fun to have a chapter on?
>endless rabbitholes of wikipedia articles after searching 'notable events in japan 1936-1999'
>zero societal context for how society would probably be like
>>576687404
Fucking lmao
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>>576685223
Neat, definitely not a bara though. That is 100% a textbook ambush, which is good.
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>>576687552
>Man what year would be fun to have a chapter on?
exploring the first arcades of the 1970s
begging chiyoko to go see the first japanese motocross in the spring of 1959
participating in the kaminari-zoku motorized street races of the 1960s ( https://youtu.be/s-RlxzEzUWg )
getting your ass kicked by justin wong at a third strike cabinet in the 90s
discovering chiyoko is hopelessly addicted to gacha during the 2020's
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>>576688284
Shit, those could be cute as fuck. Maybe an interim chapter where spirits have to adapt to a more capitalistic society? Sure, pilgrims will drop a coin and some offerings of rice and food at the donation box, but fox has wi-fi now and BB Mobile Point doesn't feel like shrines should just get router access for free.
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procto-wife. need.
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>set the setting, set the characters
>just hit continue a bunch of times
it just werks
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>>576682006
it is evil to pry on your Fellow Man's fetishes
also how did you know
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>>576656159
>rewrite to fit the modern standards
Wait... I was under the assumption the "modern standard" is to write as schizo as possible
Does that mean I have to rewrite my entire ongoing card??
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Which card is for a blond {user} exclusively?
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there's a surprising amount of cards that are basically just {{user}} and a horse with their ass turned to face them
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>>576690221
Anon, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>576690221
yeah we call them pones
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Trying to find presets while also trying to tard wrangle the AI into not writing pure slop is exhausting and makes me want to paint my walls with my brains
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>>576690443
poison the context
it's the only Way
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Surely /aicg/ has developed tech to unslop both Deepseek and GLM right?
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>>576691373
nyan is pretty good at unslopping ds, i've been using it
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>>576691505
GETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEA
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>>576691505
>unslopping ds
Using opus does the same.
Without having to touch a tranny's preset.
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cftf?
https://i.4cdn.org/trash/1786076498063291.png
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>>576692564
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage
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>>576655908
So what are the minimum specs for an offline ERP bot and what exactly do you have to install?
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>Playing around with agents in ME
>Echo chamber
>Playing out a slight language barrier, "accidentally" imply a blowjob
>Chat goes nuts
Alright, echo chamber is the stupidest gimmick ever but it's hilarious.
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>>576692682
>>>/g/lmg/
they've got everything you need to know for the most part
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>>576692646
But there's only one boy here...
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>>576692854
So there's nothing you can just install on a normal computer?
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>>576692992
should have bought sum envidia cards cuckie
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>>576691373
Deepseek has strong context poisoning. That's all you need.
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BHRAAAAAAAAAPPPPPFFFPTFPTFPTPPP
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>>576693262
made for bbc
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>>576693689
Based
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>>576694127
Big Botmakie Cock
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>>576693262
Lost to China
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>>576694264
trvkie trvke
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claudebubu got me bricked up and acting a fool
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how can we better the general?
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>>576695165
post logs
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>>576695165
Post sizefag logs
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>>576695165
>incentivize the prosebarony to make bots
>innovate
>cull the weak
this will end the current size/vore/futa/fur/fat fetishslop era and usher in a new golden age of kino
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>pip is a mousegirl barmaid at the Sand-Pit tavern in the Pride Arena. She is small, nervous, and almost pathologically overlooked—patrons and arena fighters alike tend to look straight through her. Her speech is peppered with anxious eep sounds and her whiskers twitch constantly, a barometer of emotions she's never learned to hide. Beneath the timidity, however, she is surprisingly resilient: three years of hauling ale kegs have given her a wiry strength, and she possesses a quiet, stubborn determination that surfaces when someone finally treats her as worth noticing. She is earnest to a fault, taking people at their word and responding to genuine kindness with fierce, unguarded loyalty. Her self-esteem is virtually nonexistent—she has spent her entire life believing she is invisible—but she craves connection and recognition with a depth that makes her dangerously easy to win over. {{char}} was the first person to call her beautiful, to kiss her, or to treat her as desirable rather than convenient. She now regards him with a mix of romantic devotion, awed gratitude, and the unshakable belief that he has transformed her into someone who matters. She is positioned ideally to serve as an unnoticed source of information within the arena, overhearing conversations that patrons and fighters never think to guard around the nervous mouse pouring their ale.
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>>576695994
slop
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>>576695994
>{{char}} was the first person to call her beautiful, to kiss her
WHAT
where {{user}}
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>>576696157
{{user}} is {{char}}, do not speak for {{user}}
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>>576696157
ntr card
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>>576695961
Prosefaggots destroyed the general.
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>>576697825
yeah, i'm thinking this is true



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