#24: Synced Summer Sparkles EditionPrevious: >>576566602>hololive Dreams>Current eventSynced Summer SparklesUntil 8/15 (Sat) 7:59 PM (JST)https://x.com/holo_dreams_en/status/2085303918947614881?s=20Training Support MissionsUntil 8/31 (Mon) 4:59 AM (JST)>Current bannersSummer Double-Shot Duohttps://x.com/holo_dreams_en/status/2085547887413665932>Newsholodori Photo ContestUntil 8/21 (Fri) 11:59 PM (JST)https://x.com/holo_dreams_en/status/2081998546065310016Create Chart CampaignUntil 8/16 (Sun) 11:59 PM (JST)https://x.com/holo_dreams_en/status/2079391127913005394>DownloadPlayStorehttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=game.qualiarts.hololive.dreams.comAppStorehttps://apps.apple.com/us/app/hololive-dreams/id6756641249Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4282500/hololive_Dreams/>SocialsX (formerly Twitter)https://x.com/hololive_dreams (JP)https://x.com/holo_dreams_en (EN)Youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/@hololivedreamsOfficial Discordhttps://discord.com/invite/hololive-dreams>ResourcesWebsitehttps://www.hololive-dreams.com/enTrailerhttps://youtu.be/KWkNV57HJe4Unofficial Databasehttps://holodori.best/Tierlistshttps://game8.jp/hololive-dreams/800829https://appmedia.jp/hololive-dreams/80235364Stampshttps://gofile.io/d/5cQvcS+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++>holoIndie>NewsHololive Fantasy Battle releasing on Switch and Steam on August 7thhttps://x.com/holo_bato/status/2082753068572238202>Websitehttps://ccmc-corp.com/en/holoindie/>Cataloguehttps://store.steampowered.com/publisher/holo_Indie>HoloCurehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2420510/HoloCure__Save_the_Fans/>Holo-Strikehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3984450/HoloStrike/>Hololive Fantasy Battlehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4003770/Hololive_Fantasy_Battle/
How did your miComet pulls go anons?
I don't have Miko or Suisei unlocked yet. How do I use the invitations to start their quests? I can't find the option.
>>576669031holomem -> invitation
>>576668946this is propaganda from cover
getting ghosted by ghost
>>576668946pretty good >>576668021do you really need dupes or can I just start saving rolls again?
Holy sex guaranteed roll
Thanks for the tickets...
>>576669187I may be retarded, but I can't find the option at all.
>>576668946Did a 10 pull and got a 4* Irys and nothing else. Guess I have to make my 3* Miko and Suisei work...
>1 misssuffering
The number one spot belonged to hlgg for one whole minute
Ghost filtered me...
>>576669457Go to the book under the map then click on the holomem tab. On the bottom section hit invite holomem.
I today I woke up feeling that I don't want to play this game anymore
Two all-perfects on our first run of miko kyun is BASED
devs stop cutting Suiseis songs so short
>>576669676There we go, thank you.
Thank god Ghost is not the meta song.
Is it harder to clear Expert on PC or am I just bad?
+37 for mikos song
It looks like Kyun Kyun is the song right now.
>Swimsuit Suisei wants at least 2 gen 0 holos>But she's a red while swimsuit Miko is a green>Swimsuit Miko also wants at least 1 other greenWhat are these counter-synergistic ass kits?
>>576670458Is there no 2 gen green?
there is no meta song, its not a point grind leaderboard
>>576670528there probably would be, if you know...
>>576670458deep green holoboard team?
>>576670458I see you haven't met the wonders of Promise yet>IRyS is a happy technique who requires 2+ Promise >Kronii is a cute sense who requires another cute>Bae is a pure performance who requires another pure
>>576669608take it back
>>576670570It is.
Needed to fix my team gomen
>PC isn't even allowed to get a ranksteambros....our response???
>>576670825no it isnt, its total high score across those 3 songs, you just get a whale team beat each song once and your leaderboard is good, but if you want points for the shop thats different
>>576670709rrat: Fauna and Moom were designed to synergize with them but don't exist anymore as units
I keep pulling 5* sui. I guess shes never leaving my team
>70 pulls>0 5 starsI'M GONNA LOSE IT
>>576671146you've saved me a lot of gems by saying this however
Figured Ghost would be scary but it's pretty straightforward
>>576671101I think so too. There is no other gen that is simultaneously 1) a 3 person gen, 2) split across all 3 stats, 3) with all 3 types, AND 4) has no activatable pair
God, Ghost's Expert chart sucks ass, fucking swipe notes.
>(You) don't have noel tits
>>576670458>Suisei + Miko covers your Gen 0 requirement>Miko + any green covers hers
so i should be using a cobbled up team with my 5* suisex + 4* miko instead of my regular full 5* team including 5* suisex, right?
>>576671382take a shower
>out of green resourcesa single element team was a mistake
>>576670458Color isn't that big a deal since all that matters is triggering the passive, you don't need to have a full same color teamWhat is a mystery is why their main stat is different
>>576671578use your full 5* team for placements, and suisei/miko team for grinding out the shop
Wait the swimsuit cards didn’t go into the permanent pool like anons were sayingWTF
>>576671898Don't trust Flare's lies
84173160 - No rulesSorry Miko was a leader and not on my team so I had to fix it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnYYXV46B8Akoyori is pulling atm
>>576671898Who said that? The text said it would be the next event banner
>>576671898No it gets in the loss pool for the limited bannersFor example if you're rolling for miComet right now you can get spooked by the previous swimsuit characters
>>576671460I'm jealous...>>576669361Imagine the contrast of Chama's fat tits and Festival's flat board both pressing on you as they tease you verbally.
So, what's the longest song to spam? Please tell me it's Ghost
>>576669361Festival's 5* artwork is a lot lewder than anything else in the game, including swimsuit Noel. Hers looks like outright lewd fanart
>>576671979I swapped to phone since pckeks are banished from the event, forgive my performance....
Damn lag at the start
>>576672281Ghost got chopped into a short version so no
>use 30 live boost>score zerokusoge
>>576672381well it was drawn by a porn artist
>>576672014kek 4 miko and 0 suisei
>>576672426might be the fabled someone downloading bug
>>576672531you on pc or something? doesnt it not count there
>>576672531Autoshitters and PCshitters don't get scores.
Should I roll for the new sui if I already have a lvl 80 old sui?
>>576672917no, unless you really care about the event badge
Sui chan just kicked my ass
Ghost has a mv no?
>>576672917Roll for who you like
>>576672992
What the fuck are those high scores? Almost 3 times my best despite having an S rank team
F2P can’t be rolling on everything Income is low and they’ll flood you with new cards every 2 weeks or so.STAY LOYAL TO ONE MEMBER
>>576673232Your teams can go S+++ with enough blooms and board unlocks.
>>576673232Dupes. If you use the gacha cards, they also give 10% score bonus
>>5766726185 Mikos now
>>576672746iphone
the end of the suisei song kicks me in the dick
>>576671684Already had
>>576673262>STAY LOYAL TO ONE MEMBERno, i want to collect sexy chibis
>>576673345>>576673385I thought mine was at least decent
1910-6230 4/5!
Got a new phone today so was testing it out. Thanks for the games!
>>576671135suigoi
>>576673232duping even like, +1, gives you at least 30% more score.That and holoboard. If you optimize it even slightly, you'll get big bonus. Especially you want your leader to bumrush the All Stats Up 3.0% as fast as possible.
>>576673928how'd it do
>>576671146Imagine not being chosen by the idols
>>576673904Still 4/5!
So it's not worth burning juices for this event right?
>>576674248no
>>576674030Significantly better than my previous one. I upgraded from an S22U to an S26U since it still has to be a phone at the end of the day and it's a pain to change models.>>576673830Here's mine. I'm assuming you were/are in the lobby and those were the scores you were referring to.
>>576674248Points are for buying shit from the shop only this time so no need to grind all day long
>4.6% stat increaseis this just for the event units?
koyorin...
>>576674513Memories are global boosts which is why they're the most important things to get
>>576674353Look at the top scores in dream/ diamond for the event, those are the crazy ones
>got less score for doing FC because none of my bonuses activated
>>576674513no it didnt add that much, thats your total increase from collecting memories, and yes it applies to all holos
I hate wasting gold on board resets
What are we supposed to prioritize in the party ordering anyway? I know the special skills activate in that order throughout each 20% of a song, so do score support bonus units go later to take advantage of the larger combo number?
>only 2 members have event boostit'll be way more difficult to clear out the event shop compared to the previous one
>>576674378same as last time?
they are rather detrimental to my green technique team fuck I really wanted to pull
>>576674636idk i just do the order that the magical website tells me to do and my scores got way better
>>576674732Yeah same but you are now ranked on the combined scores instead
So what's the main goal of this event? I'm very close to reaching Rank 1000, but I'm not sure what I'm doing other than just SP training Summer Suisei and Miko. This is my current team and so far I have only invested in Suisei's board as a leader because I don't have Aki and Miko unlocked yet. Watame was already invested as a member while Korone is also invested as a leader since she's my main holomem, but resetting her is a huge pain in the ass.
Previous event units are in the current micomet event pool, but at the same rate as a regular 5*
Last song!
>>576674972>get high scores on songs for leaderboard and title privileges>get high event score for leaderboard and title privileges>clear out the shopthats it
>>576674972>main goal of this eventClearing out the exchange.
>>576674609>resetting watame for her cubes
>>576674636Note density is also important. Highest score support should go in the parts that have the most notes which is why it's different for every songUse the optimizer in holodori best
>>576675195I had to do this to Subaru and Kanade to get my yellows back to dump into micomet...
Do event points even do anything? Only total score matters for rankings right
thanks for the room!
>>576674609>I hate wasting goldgold is pretty easy to get at least
>>576675406Total score and badges yeah. Its probably easier for them to let it calculate event score anyway
>>576675195>>576675251Takes ten seconds stop being babies
>>576675430It's the principle of the matter!
>>576675159So pretty much investing everything I have to SP train my team as much as possible so I can maximize the score. I wish crystals weren't so dripfed.
GGs
Pretty good considering I haven't spent a single cent (or yen) on this game
oh wait the non-event miko/suisei only give bonus to shop points? they give 0% bonus to score
somehow I have NEVER FUCKING ROLLED a 4 star suisei or mikois it still worth using their 3 star version or is that bricking too hard?
>>576675761I wish I saw this 3 minutes ago.
>>576675884>>576675761
>>576675075Infinite spooks
Still no Gura? Wtf?
>>576676023she is right there in the game? She even has her face on a building
>>576676023just mod
>>576675195kek
>>576676023gone forever
>>576676023no onion is worse
>>576676023do you genuinely think she's going to be in the game?I swear people who "care about" gura never watched her
get your shirt
>>576671898>he believed anonymous people on the internet
>>576677227>white t shirt with a png on itgee thanks.. anyway mamma and ririka have the best ones
Question on the passive effects. If the unit says it needs 2 or 3 of this generation or of this color, does it include the same unit itself?
>>576677227Do you think they do 7xl?
>>576676962>I swear people who "care about" gura never watched her>"streams" once a yearnobody had
>>576677596yesat least i think so
>>576677487They have other colours there
>>576677227Would it really kill them to have black t-shirts instead?
>>576677596yes
>top 500 for every event song with no event gachaI’m surprised but I don’t think this is gonna last
>>576677689They do. They're just using white as the example
>>576677227>no korosanno buy
>>576675465I actually ran out of hologold trying to sp all my members
>Ghost>that difficulty spike at the endWow, this is pure cancer
>no hololium ranking rewardno reason to FOMO this event. gonna do my best whatever that ends up being
>>576677596Yes, there will be red warning if your leader skill doesn’t activate
>hatefapping to mori because somebody made me listen to RIP in multi
FIVE FIVE STARS IN A SINGLE 10 PULL LETS FUCKING GO
>>576678404Doesn't count.
>>576677227Nice one
>>576678156This game will quickly go the Proseka way, increasingly harder songs with retarded charts and extremely obnoxious swipe note placements, while Hard charts are piss easy so you never feel satisfied with beating a song. Ghost's Expert chart is fucking cancer.
Out of curiosity, if MiComet banner isn’t enough for some anons to break open their diamond stash then what will
>>576677227why are some $29 and some $43...the watame one is kino
>>576678702>while Hard charts are piss easy so you never feel satisfied with beating a songCan't be me, I do all my dailies lying down in bed right before I go to sleep so Hard is perfect for me without putting in too much effort
>>576668946not even going to botherblew 20 tickets in on the standard banner and got jack shitwhere are the flatties
>>576678978My oshi.
>>576678978believe it or not there are some people who only care about ens or ids and are saving up for them
>>576679191Suisei is flat
>>576678978This banner is going to make me spend cash. I want to collect all miComet.
>Everyone got FC except meI failed them...
>>576678978I am loyal. I will roll for my oshi and that's it. I'll passively collect costumes since they're in the special gacha banners even when they go away.
Would you wear this?
>>576678702I feel PJSK's charts are more fair for the most part (outside of boss songs and some appends), if I miss a note it's because I was slow to react or I couldn't tap fast enough, in this game some patterns are just curve balls that I can't process how to approach while sight-seeing. For example, this game really likes side to side holds that end with a tap on the initial side which means either crossing hands, switching fingers or just lifting the hold and tapping (game's lenient enough with timing that you can get away with this).This pattern and its reverse are kinda common on mid experts (25/26) and don't think I've seen it in PJSK songs of similar difficulty.
>got Noel and Shuba together on my first 10 shot>won't get lucky from now onIt's all over for me
>>576679552I hate this as someone that could FC Hibana reloaded and Kagero daze expert 28s on project sekai.I miss hearing Leo sneed covers. I should redownload that game again
>>576679495>When would you like people to wear this T-shirt?:>"Probably can't wear it outside with the giant Kanade on it. So roomwear it is!>But maybe you can wear it when you wanna pick a fight with someone."this brat
The chart makers must hear something different in Ghost than I do because that final quarter is bizarre.
>>576679805I thought biboo would be the one instigating and throwing hands when I was getting impressions from week 1 /hlgg/ This blonde gremlin along with her song is very entertaining out of all the holomems so far.
>>576678378>end up hatefapping to her because of RIP>right when new song of hers is being announced>end up hatefapping to her to all her songs just because of bad timing
>>576680062I think you just like fapping to her
>just doing a random lobby before bed>level 9 newbie puts on rip>2 guys leaveOoof
whats the meta song?
>Burned through the last of my gemsFeeling the lack of currency now.
>>576680189Miko's song.
>>576679008talent-produced ones are $29, collab/creator ones are $43.
>They cut Ghost short as fuckwew
>>576680051Biboo is just brainrotting the world. She tries being a kusogaki but really isn't.
>>576670956Emulate it
>>576680128Just saying. She's apparently singing a part of the theme for the new Made in Abyss movie.
>every card they're going to release is just going to be really sexyhow do f2p's cope
>pity to get SuiI don't even know why I whaled, but I did.
>>576680734im rolling purely based on how my penis feels about the art, this game isnt safe for me
>>576680668by being in top 100 for the holos i have /despite/ the whales
>>576680579>talentless bitch is ruining another good IPGod I hate her so much.
>>576680668halloween skins are going to ruin my wallet and i know it
>>576680904
>>576680904>good IP
you could look at this card art RIGHT NOW and save yourself spending money towards the 200 pull pity
I've decided I will save my crystals until the decisive Fuwamoco event where the cards are absolutely busted when ran together
anyone have that image of lui staring at baby pictures with a forlorn expression on her face?
>>576681056How the fuck did the fucking prude Suisei allow this???
>>576680904Anon here going into another hatefap session
Got the memory. Another bricking avoided.
>>576681056its not enough, i need to own the suisex chibi and revel in knowing she would hate being paraded around like a slut
>>576681056SEX
>>576681253hmm sexo
>>576680579>Rinoa fangirling again
>>576681143It's such a good image. Somebody PLEASE get her pregnant
which one is the most rimjob coded?
>>576668946I'm saving for Justice or my oshi now
>>576681318Don't worry, I'll be the one to do it.
>>576681350Suisei and Nene eat ass
>>576681318Thank youit really illustrates the internal despair somehow, like you can tell the smile is about to crack
>>576669608It's so funny seeing /hlgg/ as the acronym for this thread
>>576681143>>576681318I have this one
>>576681432>that one pastakudasai animationBwuh
>>576680471
>>576681350
>>576681318>>576681554Man shit is just grim for everyone these days.
If they are planning to do 3 events per month, I predict the banners will go like this>Sexy banner (swimsuits)>Popular pairings (micomet)>EN&ID (next one trust)
Everytime someone ping pongs over the intercom and says "Mega Sphere" I think they're saying "Vegas Sphere"
You ARE saving these for your justice/flowglow wife, right?
>>576682069Wait, are they gonna be added there?FUCK I should've saved my tickets
I'm saving nothing and just rolling every banner like a degenerate whenever I can because all my favorite girls graduated ages ago...
>>576682069I'm using it all before they dilute the pool
>>576682123Of course. They wouldn't have a standard banner that has everyone except two gens.
>>576681926You could keep the banners chugging along with Group songs > Duos > Rest/Random > Group songs > Duos
>>576682175me except because i just have an unruly penis
Please let at least one of the Halloween outfits be a nude bandage zombie, I absolutely believe Matsuri would make it happen
Is there a bonus for having Miko or Suisei set as your leader?
>>576682460if you're aiming for score, the board singer/song bonus helps quite a bit.
What other regions are there? Howed I end up here playing on steam bros....
>>5766822053/4 unitb and achrora eventually if they pass
>fucking lag for almost 10 seconds at the start of the song in multi almost takes me out>had to full combo the rest of the song at 30HP, single miss would've probably killed me
>>576683050are you guys playing on ten year old phones or something?
>grade lobby>all of us choose random>everyone leaves one by one since nobody picked an event songlel
>>576682661Can you add people across regions? Kinda sucks to be mogged on the leadboards but I suck ass at the game so I'd probably be mogged on global too
>>576682302That already exist.
at this point the only thing stopping me from FC'ing a lot of songs is this annoying microlag that causes dropped inputsfuck this dum phone
>3 struggling meals in one fuck my shit up ririka
>>576683197Shit's an S26+, it happens to me maybe 1 in 5 multiplayer gamesusually it fixes itself right after the first note but that's the first time I almost lost all my HP outright
>>576683540
>>576683540Why the fuck does she need that many umeboshi anywayI thought it was herbal hard boiled egg or something at first since the game makes you find 3/6 of them
>>576683572I feel like at this point you might as well just get an iPhone considering Samsung wants to just be a copy anyways
>>576683572there was some things you could disable that added in a lot of performance, it was like the background and support pop ups iircgame runs perfectly fine on my s25u
>>576683572weird, my s21u doesn't have any problems.
I'm sure it was mentioned but ctrl + f didn't tell me, are we getting gems for tiering in this event too?
>>576683862yes
>burned all my gems on the micomet banner and got no SSR on it>got an SSR at the 10 tickets and it's Nerissa_______it's not that i dislike her, but her skills are shit and have zero synergy with my current one.
>>576683928She has a funny member board full spread radius of 2 panels but it's only a 55% boost IIRC
>>576683616I know where that mouth has been
>>576683394She has these panties in game too
>>576683330Ok just confirmed with a friend that's on US, you can add each other cross region but I guess the only thing that changes for the region is the leaderboard
>>576684204yeah.
I've been playing on-and-off because I was in Tokyo for Nene's sololive, but the pull currency income is rather shit, isn't it?I know it's a JP gacha and all but where does it even come from after finishing the 'story' ?
>>576683572I’m 99% sure it’s an OS problemUsually people in the latest update have issues with rhythm gacha, happened to hatsune miku gacha too
>>576684750theres a shit ton from achievements but after that it seems like its only events for a long ass time
>>576684750event rankings actually give a fair amount and every time they add new songs that's more free gems (for the people that actually play the game).
>>576684750take the f2poor method and reroll every few months
>>576684902Isn't one song only like 100 gems for S rank?
>4 people pick the event song>1 picks a different one>that one gets playedI see...
>>576684750Yeah, it's pretty bad
>>576685301>me when i wanna troll the room with Po
>>576685301i feel tempted to queue up an aizu song in graded and see how many people stay
>>576684750save your gems for the nenechi event
>>576684750Starlight Stage and SIF already perfected this balance of making the game F2P friendly while giving incentives to whale. i dunno why recent mobage wants to be jewish again what how they hand out free stuff
>>576685459>>576685503I wouldn't mind if I could set boosts to 0, but it is what it is, gotta accept what life gives us, not a reason for me to leave
>>576685503Just did that and 1 guy left kek
Today I learned what holowork isToday I also learned that I missed so many fucking resources in the last 2 weeks
>>576685894bricked, just wait for holodori 2 at this point
What are the twins weak to?
>>576671146>spent the next couple hours grinding S rank on songs for a pitiful amount of gems>finally get 1 5 star after 90 pullsThis game seems to reward hard work and effort
>>576686063Daedalus Stormbow is pretty good
>>576685894depending on your unit levels, you didn't miss that much, it's feels like child labour
>all perfected sugar rush expert>mfw
>>576685894i never engage with these 20 hour errand tasks in gacha anymorethis shit just burns me out. i don't need to add another thing to track in my life
>>576686114You know what I meant
>>576686235same here. I simply turn phone notifications off and do that stuff whenever I had the chance to log in, which is just a couple of taps anyway with their auto-recommend button.
>>576686071it rewards the hardest work of all
is playing fall guys a valid strat now too?
>>576684793Nah it happened to me a few times on an ipad air tooWay less frequent nowadays though
>>576685505That's what I'm doing and for Justice/CC
>>576687538doesnt matuli have an old shirt like that too
plat with 1.2m on each event song will it hold
you're a hoe if you leave because of the song chosen
>>576688176you're a giga hoe if you leave after YOUR song got chosen
2500 diamonds soon
>>576688507They should keep giving out freebies to keep players coming in and we'll be sitting on top forever and continue getting celebratory freebies
>>576688507I hope so, I already wasted all my red gems trying to get Suisei to no avail.
>>576688840>ID/EN banners release>holodori falls out of top 100
now it's lui's turn
pekomari banner will make $100m
yeah i'm thinking it's gaming time
>>576688507I hope the whales stay around. Suisei is a huge bomb to drop this early.
holodori emergency buttons>graduated members collab>collabs with external franchises>christmas slutty sex outfitsanything else i've missed
>>576689362shigure ui
>>576689362not an emergency button but we'll might see yagoo in some form during april fools
>>576689362New gen debut banner
>play 3 songs>in top 1000okay, I imagine this won't last longalso, is there a point in doing live together for ranking? someone said the fever adds extra score but what I see it's roughly the same as solo
>>576689362halloween sexy outfits and korone chainsaw>>576689457as this anon said: Ui
>>576689561points for the exchange shop
>>576689561fever effects the score for the events, it doesnt do anything to your individual song score, when playing you can see the fever bar as if its a 6th player in the top left, rainbow colored bar
>>576689362prosekai collab with miku guest character
>>576677227You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
>>576689539as in like a whole new generation appearing in this game first before they debut in real life?that would actually be crazy.
>>576689632>>576689758thanks, that's what I thought, burn my juice on live but ranking on solo
>>576689561>play 3 songs>in top 1000people are actually really bad at rhythm games, im like #50 for my leader holo without spending a cent
>>576684192duck sexo
>>576689362the holo announcers
>>576689362slutty halloween and christmas outfits are a given at this point
>>576690048No, debut a new gen as normal but make their banner avalaible in the same week
>>576690231I dont think that would work very well. Maybe if they had a banger track but holodori is an awkward place to establish a personality. Think of how many of the girls cringe at their debut streams. That would be permanently in holodori essentially
>>576690231honestly having mystery new girls would be way more fun but the japanese are WAY too risk averse to try something dumb like putting in completely unknown girls into a gacha banner.but rolling for them to learn about their personalities before their debut stream would be pretty fun too?
>>576689534please no. i know he's a beloved meme figure in Hololive, but this CEO glazing is becoming really cringe now, especially after all the shit that's happening with the company recently.
>>576690483also would make for hilarious memes like a kanade level bait and switch where the designs are super cute but their personalities on stream are comically different than what people expected.
>>576690483>but rolling for them to learn about their personalities before their debut stream would be pretty fun too?With how the gem economy is F2P can't afford to pull and paypigs only want their oshi and her buttbuddies so the playerbase may be very conversative with their pulls for complete strangers who they may not care for once the design novelty wears off
>>576689264nah they won't, because miComet is the most popular holo pairing
>>576690113same, well I bought passport and my shit is not even fully leveled and I'm top 50 in my oshis ranking but I think it's more about people not wanting to whale that hard, the actual skill doesn't matter much when you can do a FP on normal or easier hard/experts and get a good score
>>576690614well, normal gachas do it all the time when random new characters just appear and people will roll on them based on design/voice alone.
>>576689534Nah, no one is going to spend money and roll for yagoo. He’s just a meme.
hololive taking the number 1 gacha revenue spot in august
>>576690710In other gachas you're also pulling for what seems to be the next meta unit so even if you're just lukewarm on the character eventually they can still carry your ass for the good part of the year. That aspect isn't as important here
>>576690880Did miComet's banner do that well
>>576690970We're still on Noel booba numbers Micomet literally just started a few hours ago
>>576689362Azur Lane collab. How the tables turn
>>576690841i wonder if the bushifags would roll if Kidani becomes a limited banner in Bandori.
>>576691246It's her turn
>>576691036i believe MiComet would only do slightly better because the banner was debuffed by a worse event type and the lack of lewdness in the costumes, especially Miko's
>>576679495sure but that's a bit pricy for the shirt+ shipping when I can pull that same image from my meme folder and get it printed in decent quality for cheaper
So what's the deal with the event? If I'm not pulling on the banner should I play with my default team or is it better to put random 3* suiseis and mikos in there for the bonus?
>>576691789Use your strongest team to score. Only use random suisei and miko for event point farming
>>576689294Given the amount of SSRs per month, there's gonna be another Suisei in a few months
>>576691494>miko's costume>lack of lewdnessHer asscheeks are hanging out of her shorts
>>576691789Ideally you want to clear out the shop first with Miko + Suisei team, then you can try to get the highest score with your best team
no...
Should I just reset the green spaces on my leader unit's board to spend on more red spaces?
>>576692461Spend more on Red, but grab green if they aren't on your team. Green's got a few powerful nodes
>>576692540what's the difference between yellow and green again?
>>576692461Spend your leader and your main unit's spaces on the red and blue spaces respectively.Green spaces are for your unused holos.>>576692581Yellow is for song bonus, as in you get a bonus if you play a song that features them
>>576692540zamni havent really looked at the post rank 30 greens
>>576692581green is for benchwarmers. yellow for unit holos, reds for leaders.
>>576692581Yellow has much more holowork related stuff and if (mostly) for scoring in the songs they sing. Green benefits apply to everyone even if the member isn't being used at all.
>>576692581aside from small global bonuses green also has big same-unit bonuses
If green boosts units then the generations without graduations have an inherent advantage?
>rerolled for multiple 5 star start>then rerolled for mixed swimsuit banner>rolled like shit on my 70 saved pulls, have the urge to reroll again for MiCometWhen does it end
>>576693131Yes, Subaru complained at one point because gen 2 only has 3 holos
>>576693173That's fucked up, I'm aiming for her ranking too. Also, Fubuki gets buffed twice for Gamers and Gen1?
>>576693228yeah she does
>haachama's park announcementhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wadTaTC3yQ&t=8s
>>576691943Micomet might be the biggest paypigs in Hololive, but Noel's boobs transcends fandoms.
>>576693350
Fubuking deserves to be the most powerful anyway
>>576693228Ranking for her is fine, everyone has the same problem. However things like Advent has an advantage over the rest of the gens in scoring because it has 5 members.
>>576693228>>576693434theres a limit on greens too, you can check the target, its a 900cap
>>576693478Still, that's too skewed...
>>576693446Advent and 0-kisei are the only gens with 5 members right? I guess they'll have an advantage over all the other gens.
>yellow node>increase score for all songs>it’s actually not all songs but only for whole hololive song like sss and kirameki riderThey need to hire better localizers
Rushia please come back, Marine needs you on the bench
>>576693478thats korones first big boost node, this is fubukisi didnt realize these were different amounts
>>576693550This anon has never seen Pokajan before in his life
Inb4 once the summer is over they make a permanent swimsuit banner you can use tickets on
>>5766931733holo gens get 450 bonus stats per board instead of 300 that 4-5holo gens get
>>576693131Mostly if you're running multiple units from the same gen.Gen 0 is a 5 member gen. If you look at their green boards, they each have a 300 All boost to their gen--you need to invest in these passives on three Gen 0 holos to hit the 900 gen limit.Gen 2 has 3 active members. If you look at their green boards, they each have a 450 All boost to their gen--you only need the passives on two Gen 2 holos to hit the 900 gen limit.So, Gen 0 you could run two in a unit and pick up green on the other three, while for Gen 2, if you're running two in your unit, one of those two still needs to pick up the green passives.
>>576693667mio and okayu are also 150, not sure why fubuki has 300, shes the defacto leader maybe?
Aieeeeeee
>>576693685 (me)fuck me you're right I'm mixing up Pokajan cards with actual playable units
Anyone know where to find these? I also am missing I hate mondays
Gen 1 would become the strongest gen in Holodori if Chris wasn't fired. and i wonder how they would had handled IRyS if Sana didn't graduate.
>>576694067She's prob be in with myth at this point
>>576693761Other holos have their overall boost split among 3 passives.The big node gives 150, the node above it gives 50, and the node two below gives 100.Fubuki gives bonuses to two gens, and gives the same bonus to each gen.Each node gives twice as much, but the big node benefits GAMERS while the small nodes benefit Gen 1.
>>576694067Do you think Chris ever sees holo now and thinks what a huge fuckup that was
>>576694025I assume the knocking is knocking on the doors until the person in the booth gets mad at you
I don't like these larpers that make me think I'm playing with the actual tuber
>>576694285That's I hate customers like you unfortunately
>>576694067i am so glad we dont have to worry about pulling sana at all, id actually refund
>>576694067>>576694241>Chrislol, no one even cares about her, her only legacy is the scandal now Rushia, she probably regrets it
>>576694067
Found at the pipes right beside where the holos dance at the nightclub
>>576694346Hirys, it's fakeirys
>>576694025>1000 knocks of painKnock on the door behind Gamers station 3 times>PhotosynthesisI think you have to sit in one of the benches near Holo Home>ComfySit in one of the chairs inside Holo Home
So has anyone confirmed whether pulling the normal banner now allows you to get the swimsuits?
>>576694764No, that has never been a thing, you can get previous swimsuits from the limited banners but not the standard one
>>576694712aw shit it was the blue chair on the left, the couch didn't work.Bench outside of the holohouse on the left also worked. Last was as you said. Thanks
>>576694346That might also be a bot. If a room can't get enough players before the time is up, the game will just fill up the remaining slots with bots
>>576694856>from the limited bannersmeaning I can get them by pulling for Suisei and Miko for example? I never played gacha before, idk how does that usually work.
How do you get the treasure hunt and I've done it achievements?
>>576694927as the other anon said you can get swimsuits from the current banner
>>576694927Yes, you can get one of the swimsuit characters from the rate off from Miko + Suisei banner but you cannot get them from the standard holodori ticket banner
>>576695007>not owned
>Diamond is already 5 million pointsJesas
>>576695001get jumpscared by the toaster at the glowstick shop
>>576695007>>576695017>0,0508%Good lordSo there is no reason to hold onto my stadard tickets right? They will probably always have the same card pool?
>>576694925>bots this early into the games lifeIt's holover...
>>576695134We don't know for sure because it doesn't have a rotation date but so far it looks like no, plus you can spark from it eventually
>>576695134They will never have any of the limited banners BUT we don't know if they're going to add Justice and Flowglow into the standard banner or not
>>576695001Go to the holoh3ro shop and look at the maps. It's RNG based so you have to keep doing it until the achivement pops up
>>576695113>>576695338Thanks
Does playing in multiplayer do anything for the high score part of the event?
>>576688507Oh I just got itTime to hoard them I guess
btw the 5* tickets and paid banners use the same pool as basic gacha with no swimsuits
2500 free diamonds, check your giftbox
Future event banners are going to be bloated with past event units if they just keep adding them into that pool while the standard pool becomes more and more irrelevant if it only keeps the basic units
i hate card games so much. i couldn’t give a shit about pokojan
This isn't the correct swimsuit...
>no event storyIs this good or bad?
https://x.com/holo_dreams_en/status/20856700825299642032500 red diamonds for everybody
>>576695843No one reads them anyway and this is supposed to be the mini event of the month
>>576695843I'm not sure I want to read yuri fanfiction by the Holodori writers
>>576695843I'd rather have no story than what they initially put out.
>>576695890f2p gem income completely dependent on the whales going hard
>>576695890>release Suityan>get firstIt’s that simple
>>576695893i like reading stories of holos eating and cooking food for the 9999th time though.
>>576695893>No one reads them anywaythe story bits got way better in the 2nd half and some holos have alright unlock stories
im guessing sugar rush is the current mets
>>576695843Moderately bad but what event stories they can even do that wouldn't be boring or out of character? Lengthy romantic date?
>>576695890wasn't planning on pulling on this banner but I did 10 with this and got Subaru and Mori 5*, I'll take it
so many people dropping from lives when the song rolls, jesus, just play the fucking game
>>576696565pull a proseka by introducing angsty stories.
>>576696565Gay sex
>>576696672Rhythm games are full of unplayers. It's pathetic
>>576696672there really is no reason to drop this time around the way I see it, if you play consistently you'll get to the event score/badge threshold for every reward(maybe not the lp at the end when everything else is bought)
>>576696704They should just go full ham in event storiesMake up a big bad melodrama plot with the Holos who just play characters in it, kinda like that Holo ERROR thing from back then
>>576696930one way i could see it being inserted is if the holoERROR plot was part of an acting script for the next movie they're producing
>pull gacha 20x>20 bluesthese tickets are fucking RIGGEDRIGGED I SAY
I've got a couple of max bloomed 3 stars. Are they good for anything?
>>576697628Grinding your leader achievements
>finally got a Watame with the free 2500 gemsthank you holodorigods!
>>576697215When I saw that you aren't even guaranteed a 4* off of a 10-ticket 10 roll I laughed out loud
Go on without me bros....
>>576696565They could just make a banner based on Hololive events from the past year. People would go crazy over Incho Fubuki or Panyasan Korone.
>>576698031huh? is this some evil server?I've only done 2 or 3 songs and am in gold somehow
>>576698105Asia and Japan have some giga sweats
>>576698192If Asia and Japan have their own servers why do I keep getting matched with people with Japanese names? It can't all just be weebs can it?
I leveled up one of my units by 10 levels and unlocked a few blue nodes in her board and my team score went down
Do you think we'll get a pokajan event at some point?
>>576698506Either weebs or they somehow got into US somehow, prolly through VPN or somethinghttps://holodori.best/tools/leaderboardI'm in the US and for whatever reason my account is in Asia
>>576697215found you're tweeter
>>576698506i believe only the ranking servers are segregated. everyone shares the same server when it comes to multiplayer and custom charts
>>576698597They should do a high stakes pokajan with 100k coin bets
>>576698506Mathcmaking is cross-region, can also add friends cross-region too
>>576698647>segregatedBased
>>576698643doxing is bad sirs
>>576698523make sure you aren't comparing your score on a song with leader bonus
Add character skills to PokajanLet's make your oshi bottom tier and a random ID SS tier
>>576698721americans will get utterly mogged by asianGODS pls understand.
>>576698739Oh haha
>>576698674I'm gonna matchmake with one of the jap Vtubers one of these days
>>576698834They should do a worldwide event sometime just to see Amerifats rage when they can't touch the top 50,000
>>576698643I don't have a twitter, so you can send him pizza or whatever if you want.
pokajan does count for this event's score, so is can be a pokajan event if you want
Meanwhile, elsewhere...
>>576693667So if I have Korone in my team, I should focus on giving all of the greens to Okayu, Mio and Fubuki?
>>576694195Seems OP if you're running a Gen 1 / Gamers team
All these bad luck posts are making it easier to save
>>576700063That will just make your pain that much greater.>save diamonds for a year>finally get a banner with your oshi>spend everything>get nothing but garbage all the sameat that point you'll HAVE to paypig. At least if you're pulling right away as you get the diamonds you can pretend you don't care.
>>576699612Cute Zeta
>>576700265This is why you save until spark
>>576700265I'm not rolling until 50k diamonds though I LITERALLY can't lose
>>576700370>I'm not rolling until 50k diamondsso never?and imagine, if you rolled now, you'd have a better team, meaning better event rewards from high scores, meaning potentially even more diamonds...
>>576700613NTA but its like week 3 and im at nearly 30K gems
>>576700716Really? That's a lot. But remember>no more release celebration free gems>no more #1 store and 1 and 2 million players free gems>no more main quest free gems>no more treasure chest free gemsit's only gonna get harder and harder to gather up anythingright now you pretty much only have the achievements left, and they're getting incresingly more difficult as you clear the easy ones
>>576700716I seriously hope you didn't skip Noel's milkers
>>576700613>better event rewards from high scoresThe difference between silver and plat in the last event is 800 gems, three whole pulls.The difference between silver and plat in this event is 200 gems, not even a single pull.Pulling units for better event rewards will never be worth it.
>>576701175>1000 gems in 2 weeksthat's not bad considering you'll be gathering the 50k for like half a year at least, it will add up throughout all the events in that periodbut I am just pulling your leg anyway, do whatever you want, it's all down to luck anyway
>>576700716You will be at 40k if you save until end of the year, events don't give tickets or gems
>>576701562>that's not bad considering you'll be gathering the 50k for like half a year at least, it will add up throughout all the events in that periodThat's assuming you'll be able to place at least plat on every event, which means you'll need to pull every necessary holo for every event.It's just not realistic at all.
>>576701782no no no, you don't need the event specific cards, it's enough to have event specific memberspulling a couple of times at the start will give you a variety of cards that you can then use all throughout, you don't need to pull at each eventjust having a 4 star Suisei right now gives you a +30% bonus, that's perfectly doable with just a couple of random pulls. Even a bloomed 3 star will give a nice bonus.
>>576701764what?
>>576701979You don't need to pull the event banner then, just use the holodori tickets
if you use tickets, there is no difference whether you pull x10 or x3 or whatever, right?Or do you get additional chances for the flicker change to 5 star or something like that for pulling x10?
>casually running through the park>Luna's incomprehensable babble announcement comes on
The problem is you can only run 1 of your oshi in a team. I don't know about you but if I could run multiple slots with her I'd do it, so eventually when I'm sitting on 3-4 costumes I wonder if I'll feel that motivated to go all in to pull for her 5th outfit at that point since they can't be used together.
>>576702392https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by99Rv2kf7g
>>576702258The flicker to a 5* is the game seeing you got a 5* but randomly deciding to display a different animation, it doesn't cause the rate for 5* to change.
idk i think I can keep trying but either me or my phone are not good enough at the game to let me survive clearing 27 rated songs or higher.
>>576702724I will roll for every single one of her outfit because I love her.Simple as.
I will take back everything I ever said about Cover if we keep getting a tenner every week for random reasons
>>576703071They should've gave out 2500 gemmies for Marine's birthdayThatd mean 2500 every few weeks or so
>>576703071I mean, as long as the gachis keep the game afloat by reaching #1 we'll get 10 pulls every event at least
>>576703139they should do mini-events for everybody's birthsdaysay you get a new song of theirs + some gems for playing their songs in a live 10 times that day or something like that
All this free shit is adding up
>>576703071The other rythm gacha games drip feed the f2ps eternally, in a similar fashionOr so i have been told
>>576703325>Blue diamondYou're not a true F2P
Miko checking out the top players
I have about exhausted my free rolls until we get more gibs at some point in the future (not counting on it, since it's primarily a rhythm game, and you don't need to pull to hit the falling blocks).So I settled on my team comp as follows:>IRyS>Bae>S.Noel>Pekora>Sui-chanHow's that? Before that I used IRyS+pure characters, but I'm not sure how two pairs of cute characters with passives that only buff 2 each would interact. So Noel+Pekora with gen synergy and self/all buffs seems like a more clear alternative. Plus I get to see Noel's giant melons more often.
>>576703291That'd be pretty good promotion for the member's songs too. We know how much Kanade benefitted from the last event from the game making us sit down and listen to it multiple times
>>576703579Fubuki is ranking 50
>>576703661She's 13th actually
>>576703647>We know how much Kanade benefitted from the last eventI haven't been keeping tabs, but you and aizu started showing up in my youtube recommendations, and I saw it at 1,3 million views at first, and at 1,7 million by the end of the events. They should definitely use the birthdays and other events for music promotion like that.
>>576703701>真夏のジャンボリーブッキwhat did she mean by this
>>576703767https://x.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/2085666675328975112Watame just tweeted about her songs getting more attention too
>>576703493Nope definitely not. I would have ended myself grinding the last event f2p
>>576703941Rightfully so, I think she's one of the best singers in holo. My song especially is fantastic.
Scamming your own employees
>>576704227>1.65%That's rarer than a 5-star pull in HoloDori, which is 5%. Congrats!
>>576702724the outfit will be powercrept/made lewder to make you pull for it.
>>576703941the in game cut of the song didnt do it enough justice, thankfully alot of them checkout the full versioni just realised one of the good point of holodori is if there's a song you like in game then you can 100% check it out on youtube (cover songs) includedi remembered i was pretty disappointed not able to find the gbp cover song anywhere
>>576704646>Koyo get tons of Mikos before having to spark SuiseiAt this rate she'll be the reverse of that
>>576704568>your song is short enough that it doesn't need to be cut at all
>get a really good hand at pokajan and win>it's for a daily quest so i got nothing
so you shouldn't blindly level this up and should find the optimal combination between your active members for maximum overlap right
>>576705328idk, seems too specific and autistic for me to care, I just upgrade blues for members I use in my unit, reds for the leaders and green for everyone elseI have no idea how to even begin to calculate skill activation frequency increases vs bonuses vs ability increases etc
cover plshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzZpVzQC1Q8
>>576704568It's an even bigger feedback loop.People are even more hyped about all kinds of songs they simply would have never listened to otherwise when they go to Fes and other life events, instead of everyone just knowing their shit and the big ones.It might not drive a huge margin of tickets but atleast the crowd is more ready
>>576705465they should straigh up add Ui mama for the memes even just for april's fools
>>576705465this except it's by kronii
>>576705576>hunchback chibi trips and eats shit
Miko just got swimsuit Watame in the Micomet banner.
>>576705465I'll take this instead pleasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VIeV_LZXHM
>>576706047this song would slap on expert mode
I didn't know the game could "lie" to you about your pull until I saw Miko pull a "blue" and becoming an SSR when the animation began.
Having every talent get scammed live has to be the worst advertisement for this game
I think holo girls should cover Through the Fire and Flames
>>576705328correct me if Im wrong but the buffs are probably additive and not multiplicative so it doesn't matter, the more it proc the betterwe would some ridiculous gaps in score if you could stack 3/5 multiplicative buffs at once
>>576706315flips do happen, but it's rare
>>576705465>>576705576Ui is the most likely to get a collab, she is like 95% holo already
i havent gotten a single 5* in ten 10 pulls, i fucking hate my gacha luck
>>576706315Many gachas do that
>>576706375it kinda feels the game has like half the advertised rate. a 5% rate should give an SSR for every other 10 pull so getting nothing after more than 3 is abnormal!
>>576706315Yep, for some reason the swimsuit 5 person banner didn't really have it happen but it isn't really rare. There seems to be one now where the power goes out as well instead of the error screens before.We have like 4 or so times where an upgrade can happen now.
>>576706315HoloDori is probably the gacha with the MOST fakeouts I've ever seen.>can fakeout during the initial rarity color splash>can fakeout after the stream clip segment>can fakeout during the fireworks>can fakeout during the engraving>can fakeout after the screens light up>can fakeout after you've already started revealing the pulled characters one by oneThe last one seem to be the rarest. I haven't encountered it myself yet, but I've seen it happen on stream.It's a pretty common trick in gachas to hype up the gamblers, and, I do admit, it's kinda nice, gets a good load of dopamine pumped into your bloodstream.
>>576706382https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdwEOVH2aNc
>>576706664>The last one seem to be the rarestMiko got it three times already.
>>576706664Last one is the most common for me, that and the fireworks.
>>576706734Now put it in the game.
>>576706664at least it doesnt have the FGO scam where an SSR-labeled pull gets downgraded into a common. imagine the seethe when holodori has that!
>>576706895god I forgot that happened, what a stupid game
>>576706767>>576706851Well, the girls pull a TON. From my experience, and also form watching their streams, the most common seems to be the fakeout when the screens light up, and one flickers and changes colors. I've noticed it the most times at least.
>>576706895FGO has that? damn. That's cruel.
>>576689362pekomiko
>>576706895kek why would they do that. Is it for a specific servantl like Avenger or can it happen at random
>>576703579Whale watching
>>576689362nah they could easily collab with external franchises by having a girl sing the themes or something. Not emergency button tier at all, in fact I'd bet Miku will get a event or something in a year or so
KEK
>>576707669>Miko 1 at 270But the spark is 200...
>>576689534hire riyo to make april fools
I'll take this cover please, its a favorite of mine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K57XcDsUl6A
>>576708036Peak redditslop, fuck no
>no fallen wing or wandalada>no love letter>no wii wii woo>no mesmerizer>no next color planet>no starry jet>no soiree>no unison>no horny money world>no treasure box>no go getters>no sneaking revenge>no dead on arrival>no new start>no mumei>no here comes hope>no aishite aishite aishite>no tako takeover>no halloween night>no ccgg madness>only one pmaru cover and its not mottai or planet big bang>no loli god requiem>no mirage>no rock in>no as above so below>no kiss dake de>no STARTEND>no ash again>no shinkiro
>>576708445you missed aqua iro palette
>>576708445yeah nigga the game is like 2 weeks old, most of those will be added, save for songs from graduated girls
these event songs are raping me...
Looks like Miko is working hard for another daily top, thanks for the 2.5k gems in advance
Wait, why does Iroha have 20 max energy instead of 10?How do you increase it?
>>576709752By buying the passport
>>576709752holopassport
>>576709905>>576709938Why would they lock something like this behind the passport...
>>576710031Passport doubles earnings as well, it seems like a whole different game, I think anyone who's seriously considering grinding this game and not just playing casually should prob get it
>>576710031as opposed to locking what? you can still play even with 0 boosts, and the boost consumables seem plentiful, so it's not much of an issue
>every holomen streaming holodori is just gacha rollingway to sell your game
>>576710175In this event it just makes you empty the store faster. Unlike the last one where points mattered
>>576710448the thing is without boosts I wonder if it's even possible to empty the store at all. unlike the previous one you have 5 members with bonus, this time it's just 2.
>>576710430I think that's just what people who suck at the rhythm game and pokajan do
>>576710549I'd have expected the shop to be smaller this time around to offset that. Plus you get shop tokens for the score ranking as well.
>>576710031Passport also doubles the refill rate for energy.They double the cap so you store the same amount of stocked time, so to speak.
>NENENENENENENENENE>PoWhy are the girls like that
>>576695890Free income might not be too bad if we hit #1 on every banner like Gundam SD Eternal. Not sure if that's actually feasible with every girl though.
one thing i wish they would fix is why do i get notifs on my phone hours after something happened, i already got 10 tickets and used them, why are you telling me about it 8 hours later?
This fucking vibration in rope jumping is responsible for 50% of my fails.
>>576710780nenenetowawanenenetowawa
>>576710967>jazz starts playing
what leader is the best for a green team?
>>576710430I watch Gigi so she mixes gacha and actually good runs. Anya is great too.
>finally figured out how to change beads for crystals>SP trained Korone to Lv80>now I'm short on Lesson Pts and I already exhausted all of the shops>it's the only thing keeping me away from 1M in Unit ScoreGoddammit.
>>576710430Nips love gambling. Just look at the numbers they get for horse racing.
>>576711440All the tier lists stick Ayame on top but she brings down my Unit Score when I have her on my team over the other greens, but the Unit Score isn't really indicative of actual ingame performance I think? The ability activations are RNG after all
>>576710430fubuki, flare and gigi are there for actual gameplay
>>576711630aw man i don't have ayame i just use ina
>>576706386if i am to trust the in game unit score, my total score dropped when i level up one of this on my unit lol
>>576711709There are others but they tend to just play pokajan
>>576711814It's weird, I had a unit, then I hit recommended to see what the game would suggest and it picked the same exact cards I was using already, but in different order, and somehow that gave me more unit score. I don't think the order actually matters for anything, so I think there's just some buggy score calculation in this game.
>>576709283I wish the Sui raped me...
>>576711725I just use Mori because of 50% all. However Nerissa has the same skill if you don't have myth(x2)
>>576711951Pokajan IS the game
>>576712052Order matters for skills, they all happen left to right as the song goes. Not sure why that messes with the auto party tho
Nice try Cover, I'm not gonna buy gems to do the one time 5* guaranteed gacha
>>576712127
>>576712289I thought at launch already they are real faggots about this
>>576711725Doesn't really matter who you use really the highest scores in ranking are reserved for whales anyway. We don't really have "meta" units yet since nobody's really bothering with all the calculations
Jesas, mega curcuit sucks on the pc
>>576684750S ranking new songs gives you 100 gems, so 25 new songs = one 10 pull. There are thousands of Hololive songs and they're releasing at a rate of more than 1 song a day, so 20 pulls a month?
>celebration>don't get to celebrate if you don't payI feel like a single 4* for free for everyone would be more of a celebration than paying for 5*
>>576712679I like my current team, i dont actually give a fuck about getting more 5 stars
>>576712679I'll probably lose it when they add this
>>576712679we just got 2500 gems man
>>576712894Same desu. I'm just gonna roll whenever my favourites have some special card, and that's that, otherwise I'm good.
Not sure when I'll ever spend anything on the permanent banner again considering I always need to save everything I get for the special banners...
>>576712584I'm outperforming Japanese whales with this team, often outscores "S+" comps with bloomed holomems
>>576711951yeah i specifically meant the rhythm stuff, almost everyone's going to stream pokajan at some point and it wouldn't surprise me if they do a meme tournament among holomem
>>576712289if you buy the monthly pass every month you'll accumulate enough to do one eventually without straight up buying any gems.
>>576713673>if you buy>without straight up buyingStop coping, nigga.
Does anyone who knows shit about team building know what is the best I can build with these? I tried using that holodori.best site but it recommends me wildly different teams with empty boards vs everyone with the blue nodes maxed and I don't want to go through the hassle of figuring what my actual current boards would look like hypothetically if I were to include each talent in my main team and respec their board to full blue for 10 different talents
>>576714136focus on leaders that give the highest bonis to a certain stat, then focus your unit on it.
>>576714653But what if I want to use my oshi as a leader and she has a shitty leader ability
>>576713982relatively speaking the pass costs almost nothing and it doubles your rewards. no one's buying it for the gems, gems are just a bonus. if you buy it every month you'll probably get enough gems to do 2 guaranteed meme pulls every year for ~36 dollarydoos
>>576714872you shouldn't use your oshi as a leader if you care about maximizing your score, unless your oshi happens to have a good leadership ability.
>>576711212SananaFaunanasBananashiBaenanasKronini
>>576714915There are two passesThe one that doubles your shit and the one that gives you lots of gems from the monthly steps
>>576703924https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuLsQc1z2Y
>>576715056But a bunch of the character progression achievements are tied to using my oshi as a leader a million times
>>576715173the monthly pass that doubles your live and minigame rewards also includes 360 gems when you buy it or renew it. 360*12=4,320 is almost enough to do 2 guaranteed banners every year.
>>576715608I mean, okay yeah. The big pass also gives gems, a lot more, but costs a lot more too.
>>576714136wow that's a hodgepodge of main stat and color. most of them only do score support passive, too. Lui+Iroha kinda works as a pair, but the rest are ehh. I'd say just put Lui as leader and use whoever you like.
>>576712289I just did and got a dupe Marine...
>>576714872What's her leader ability? Surely it cant be that bad
I will put using holos I really like firstThen try to make them as good as possible somehowBut if they're mediocre then so be it
>>576716096If you have at least 2 promise members it raises all 3 stats by 50% for everyone. It's not terrible but usually it's better to focus on one stat, and also it restricts your team building in a shitty way since you need 2 promise members and currently none of them have any synergy with each other (they're all 3 different types and Bae and Kronii support their respective types instead of Promise)
I need to use my oshi as the leader. I have to...
just wait till she gets an alt with better bonus
>>576716465My oshi isn't even in the game fuck you.
>>576716619>EN>altHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Suddenly Tower
Nobody cares about some whore's birthday.
>>576716465This is why I'm stuck with a level 60 4 star Shiori
Does anyone have that video of Noel playing on speed 1?
Better get Red Heart in 2 days
>>576717326Or we stage a Buta takeover of harmony garden
>>576716913don't be so rude to your mother
>>576687668Yeah and Risu too
Cool song and happy birthday, Takoyaki Tower.
>palette>error>facttowa really got the stacked discography in this game
>leveling trash 3 and 4 stars gives you +0.01% stats bonus every 20 lvls.So in the long term, you will SP train and lvl up everything to 60. Is there a point of leveling 4 stars to 70? Do you get the +0.01 going from 60 to 70 or doing it on two 4 stars maybe? I understand now the importance of putting points in the ressources nodes for the leader. +55% gold and xp is mendatory when you need bazillions of it.
I can knock one out for her special day
>>576717650No ANEMONE no buy
How are these ratings determined? Trying to hit 500 total but I'm not good enough to pass Expert yet
>>576717938Raise your team/fill out the holoboard
>Towa birthday celebration>get 3 live boostswoah, it's fucking nothing
Someone needs to smack whoever is making these song charts.
>>576718123Wow don't forget the badge celebrating the birth of our goddess towa-sama
>>576717938Max level your team and fill their holoboards, pretty much you have to max your score as much as possible.Honestly, I have no idea if the song difficulty helps or not, I have seen a lot of people ranking very high while playing on Hard.
>>576718045>>576718359nahone
>tfw if you want to seriously rank (top10 or even 100 on popular ones) on several holos, you must reset your leader holoboard a ton of times every weekShit. Maybe thats why they give you a shit ton of red cubes/hexas.
>>576718271Am I crazy or do they just literally have 3 notes at the same time there in the middle?
Ghost on hard is hard, it fucks with my brain
>>576717650I'm waiting for Brilliant.
>>576717650akuma for me
>>576718417And you run out of them very fast. I already exhausted the shops I currently have available and I still need a good bunch of hexas, I don't even have enough green ones to take advantage of the Gen 0 boost and it's annoying because I also have AZKi in my team.
>>576717665Holomems level up more if you level their 3/4 stars too
What speed do you bros play at?
>>57671886710
>>57671886710.7
This was suppose to be my first expert full combo…
>>57671886710.5, I tried going back to 10 thinking it would help me with the Lv28 songs, but it still feels too slow. I think 10.5 is the sweet spot overall.
>>576718965she looks hungry for cock
>>576718459You're meant to leave the 2nd hold mid through to tap as it's covered by the right finger hold and the game's timing is very lax but it's such a stupid section.
>>576718867For some reason I ended up at 9.0
>>576718701I feel like the way they designed the holoboard system really conflicts with the oshikatsu element of the game. If you have one oshi you're dedicated to chances are you want to have her as your leader and also as a team member, and you probably want to play her songs more than any other. But then you will never have enough resources to max the red, blue and yellow parts of your board. So from a pure gameplay minmax perspective the best thing you can do is leave your oshi out of your team entirely so you can go all in on yellow nodes to maximize the score you get from her songs with other members, which is really dumb obviously. And even if you ignore that because it's too minmaxy for the average sane player you are still effectively encouraged to not have your oshi as both leader and member since you can't max both red and blue nodes, which means that you'll be "wasting" a member slot on a weak unit with no blues. The whole system feels really shitty if you're trying to enjoy the game as a hololive fan with a big favorite.
>>576718417it's not like it builds up over time, so can't you just snipe the ranking right before the deadline? just one reset per week per holo
>>576719014Yeah this face makes me feel things
>>576718867F-five
Kanade is quite sexy after all
>>57671886710.3 on phone8.0 on PC
>>576718867I'm a rhythm game newfag so I started pretty low at 6, but I've recently switched to 9.5 and honestly it feels easier that way. I'll probably try out higher speeds, too, but this feels nice so far.
t-thanks for the 10 roll diamonds holodori
>>576719241Yeah, the holoboard is way too tryhardy and very confusing overall. Myself, my main team is Leader Korone and I also have her 5* card in my team, so her board is invested in red while my team is mostly filled with high Sense units, and it makes sense that I should focus on Sense boost nodes in the other holoboards, but then I also have Suisei and AZKi, so I want the Gen 0 boost which forces me to invest green nodes on them and also on Gen 0 holomems that aren't even in the team, and when I realize, I'm already out of hexas and all of my shops are emptied out, so I have to wait until the monthly reset or grind my Dream Rank to level them up because I'm still at Rank 31.I think the holodori.best website has a node simulator from what I saw in a screenshot from a previous thread, but I think it requires me to register to then link my account, I wish we could have a board simulator so I could properly understand what would be the best routes to invest.
>>576719241Minmaxers have to make concessions. It might be too hasty to evaluate the entire system while we're on week 2 of its launch and we don't have a wide variety of cards or a lot of resources yet. If you're aiming for a a top 100 or podium then yeah you'll have to minmax but it should be straightforward enough to top 500/1000 with your oshi as long as you allocate your options smartly, at least for the previous type of event.
>event target score mission caps out at 1.5milwell that's quite a relief
jesus christ sugar rush is an awful song. i was already sick of hearing it mid run
Do memories really provide permanent boosts without you even having to select one?
>>5767188679 but im a thumber
>>576719685Today is for posting sexy towas
>>576718271Due to how the game handles inputs you can treat the 4 holds on the left as single taps, no need to do any dragging or anything.
>finaly cleared delusion taxthanks to whoever suggested it for an easy 25 in one of the previous threads. now to do it again for every member.
>>576720762We don't take kindly to Towa around here
I feel like my hair has been growing again after taking a break from Pokajan.
>>576720528Yes. Putting them on the memory board is just for showing off.
>>576719685she has a cute butt
>>576719241>leave your oshi out of your teamhonestly I think this is actually the intention. after all there's special skill dialogue between unit member and the leader.
>>576721312I mean that just sounds retarded. Like, all the leader contributes is an outfit skill and red nodes so in theory to be optimal you wouldn't even bother leveling up your oshi's units at all since their individual levels and stats have no impact if you aren't fielding them as members?
>>576717881agreed
>>576716913
>>576721106I'd rather be bald than quit playing pokajan
>>576721513well there's level and sp achievements so at least that has some use for holomem rank.
>>57671886710, crop top at 7
>>576719241you're probably meant to play your oshi so much to complete the achievements and get them to a high enough rank to be able to get all the board filledi have a leader still at 20-something achievement rank but i've been able to get most of the relevant red and blue nodes
>>576719241With holodori.best, you can see that a maxed holomem can fill up 99% of the board so it's like a endgame goal fitting for a oshi main. At lvl 37, you can pick all the blue + red minus the ressources ones. I have mine already 32 so using your oshi as leader+member is far from impossible.
>>576714136I'd probably just go with the parts that work together simply, even if they don't fit perfectly:Lui+Iroha simply work togetherIrys+Bae for activating the outfit effectHaachama or Koyori for activating Bae's passive--without crunching numbers on which is better, I'd probably take HaachamaThe difference in Irys boosting Bae's Technique by 32% instead of her Performance is a difference of increasing Bae's total stats by only 10% instead of 14%, roughly. The Bae stat split is 43% Performance, 27% Sense, 30% Technique.That's about 1% less stats for the unit as a whole, compared to if Bae were Technique focused instead.The outfit skill doesn't seem that much worse either.Assuming all units have Bae's stat split for their main stat (doesn't seem to be true, seems some are closer to 40% main stat than 44%?), the conditional 50% all is only about ~2% worse than unconditional stat-specific (like Haachama's 120% Technique), or ~5% worse than conditional stat-specific (like Bae's 130% Performance), assuming everyone on the team has that main stat.Seems like a solid team to me?It's not totally perfect, but without whaling it's unreasonable to expect to optimize to that degree.
>open the 'dori>towa birthday jumpscare>get purple drink x 3 (towa personality excretion)
>>576719241This is at HoloMem rank 26. Got most of the red and blue tiles that you'd want. To get high HoloMem rank you need to use them a lot, which then lets you unlock everything you'd need to use them as leader and on the team.
>>576722842I've been using mostly IRyS Bae Koyori Choco Polka since I got Choco and Polka early on (and even one dupe Choco) and they're both the same type as IRyS, do you think investing in Lui and Iroha to replace those two would make for a signficant upgrade? Holodori.best lists a bunch of teams with like 2% differences between them according to some metric but I have no idea how to interpret that.
>>576719241they don't want you maxxing your roster in the first month. you're supposed to keep grinding for years to come.
>>576723036also there are special nodes that give bonuses when you're both the leader and on the team, so it makes sense to have your oshi built like that
What's the consensus on this site?https://asciisyaez.github.io/yagoo-dori/team-builder/Def AI slop but I'm not seeing anyone elsewhere wanting to do the actual math and making a public tool out of it
>>576723521https://holodori.best/tools/optimizer gives basically the same results so I dont know if they use the same algo or if the scoring is really solved
>>576723747>log in to use the toolsholy cancer
>>576723303The "included as a singer" nodes? Those mean "listed as a singer for the song", not "has a member in the unit".You can see this for yourself pretty easily, since they bump up your unit score when you select an applicable song.They're like yellow nodes, but stronger in exchange for being limited to the leader, and not working for the "All" type songs like SSS.
>>576723036Why avoid the bottom greens?
did my first index finger expert clear with towa's new songthumbs are more comfy though
>>576723983You can see them on the song pick screen as well. They have the check mark on the leader, like all of the other conditional procs.>>576724001The benefits are tiny for the points they cost. It's not worth picking them up for anyone that you're actively using, since you're better off using the points on other nodes.
>>576723983>Those mean "listed as a singer for the song", not "has a member in the unit".wait, really? damn, that's a shame
>>576718271treat those green notes as taps. the curved lines are there just to fuck with your eyes.
Yellow nodes are the most useless ones unless you rank with someone in particular, right? Are the 8% holowork rewards a meme? With 5 wageslaves of your choice, it stacks up to 40%. Not bad in the long run for cubes and hexas.
>>576725381I've been putting them on random members I don't use since I don't have enough green cubes to get more green nodes on all of the bench warmers
>>576725381yellow nodes are also the song score ones, so just make all the members you're not actively using in your unit full green + yellow
>no holoboard preset saves to easily switch between different roles>no "bloom all" button to easily deal with the slew of 3 stars you can getcome on cover, get to work
>>576725848you will click every holomem achiev and you will like it!
>Lag at the start of song so bad I fail>Everyone else has full combos goin>Close game I wont be embarrassed like this
i hate how passport is rather mandatory if you want to get anything worthwhile out of events and stuff
>>576726282You're exaggerating. I got platinium and cleared out most if not all of the shop on the last event as a f2p. Unless you're aiming for the very top, it's fine.
>>576726282Nah, you just need to put a bit more effort, I managed a comfy 3000 rank in the past event without the passport and even managed to clean the shop. Still, the passport does help a lot and having double the stamina gauge is also very convenient.
>>576721283Kanade was MADE for anal correction
>>576726452>last eventyeah now we're getting less than half the points. think you can still clear the shop?
Well I think I am done with the "story". I hate Pokojan and I hate Fall Guys and now I have to have coins to proceed with the story. No thanks.
>>576727706You can buy coins at the front desk by using the mini-game stamina.
>>576727706use your minigame boosts and turn those into coins at the desk
>>576727706>I hate Pokojan and I hate Fall GuysTry Pokajan?
>>576727706>You hate a gambling mini-game in a gacha>You hate a skill-based mini-game in a rhythm game>You hate the storyLet me guess, you also hate music games and Hololive
>get Subaru last event on the first try>get Suichan this event on the first tryYou were right. It's rigged. But in my favor.
>>576727706Play Fall Guys on PC, once you learn the maps, it should be easy to get to round 2 at least and from there you will always win coins.
>>576720762
should I just use the 5* ticket at random? it seems to be a different banner to the one from events.
>>576727819>>576727821Thanks for this. Will probably keep me going for a bit longer.>>576728184I love rhythm games and I love Hololive.
>>576723210Purely stats-wise, which isn't the whole story, I think Haachama+Lui+Iroha would be better, but only by like....0.2% or so?The remaining difference would almost be entirely in their active skills--though my biggest issue on that front is Bae and Irys having the same activation interval.The Team Compare feature on holodori.best, selecting a few long and short songs, gives the edge more often to your Koyori team though.The difference is less about "Unit Power", and more about how the song places Special Skill activations in comparison to Active Skill coverage, and the tool switching around the order of members in the units to optimize around that.The tool didn't give options for messing around with different settings for "Frequency of Skill Activation" allocations, which could change things, but most people aren't really at the point for experimenting with that. When you're getting to those passives though, don't get the same amount on Bae and Irys if you're still using both of them then--better to stagger their activations.Both teams are similar in stats, but calculating for skills is harder. I'm of the mind to just trust the machine on this one, and feel fine continuing to use your current team....it might also be better on your current team that Choco/Polka are using their passive Score Support on themselves and their stronger skills, than splitting the Score Support passives across four active skills, with one of those being Bae's weaker active skill.
Are there any anons here who didn't follow Hololive before playing the game?
>>576729252>...it might also be better on your current team that Choco/Polka are using their passive Score Support on themselves and their stronger skills, than splitting the Score Support passives across four active skills, with one of those being Bae's weaker active skillSo what does that mean in practice, I shouldn't get the blue skill activation nodes on Bae?
I won't be pulling anymore. I don't want to do all the blooms and achievements.
>>576728004I'd rather try Mogojan
Even though the ticket is more fun, I should save for the bloom stone right?
>>576729346Probably not
>>576729983yes but wheres the dopamine rush in that
>>576729983Stockpile those SSR tickets and use 10 at the same time for the epic screeshot.
>>576729843Don't get any, or only get one once Irys has two, or--since you're using Irys as a leader and a member--get the skill frequency nodes with Bae and not on Irys, until Irys has enough board points to get two or three of them.
>>576729346I'm here because I'm a rhythm gamer, yes
>the girls when I hit the lever to change from casino to game area
>>576723962you want to punch in which cards you have and what levels and bloom they're at every single time you use the site?
>>576729125Yes. It's probably restricted to just the standard banner
which song is best for autogrinding?
>>576731204The longest one. Miko's.
>>576731397I wonder if they'll ever look into tweaking score multipliers or something on shorter songs so people don't just spam the longest one every event
>>576731204the collab one because you get the bonus score from the yellow nodes of both Miko and Suisei
How do I "exceed the ingredient count 5 times" in the cooking minigame? I've had 2/5 for 300 recipes now.
>>576731947just fill the basket to failure
>>576731518>because you get the bonus score from the yellow nodes of both Miko and SuiseiI'm so confused. How am I supposed to build my team? Let's say I have both summer Miko and Suisei in my team with Suisei as the leader, how should their boards look like?
>>576731518does that matter if it's auto mode?and aren't there more solo song yellow nodes than unit song yellow nodes?
>>576732025Oh, makes sense.
Where's the block button
>>576732828You will play deadbeats and like it.
>>576730569any opinions as an outsider?
>1 great
>>576730494only one node difference doesn't have a noticeable impact in songs under 2m you basically need at least 2 node difference if not a full 3-0it's so cripplingly bad to overlap idk who did the balancing for Promise kek
>lore accurate 4kisei roomhappy birthday towapi
>>576733095Nothing negative. Seems like a pretty standard anime girl game general to meThe Hololive talents seem like goofy goobers. Songs are goodI like the gen 0 girls best at the moment but find others very attractive like Bijou and Ayame
>>576729252isnt it ideal that everyone procs at the same time because skills stack multiplicatively?
>>576733912as expected from the hime
Thank you, 2500 free diamonds
>>576733918Bijou is a fun watch and she's lowkey pretty good at videogames. Ayame is really cute, shame she only streams once in a blue moon.
>>576734089no if you've ever watched the score% box and seen a girl yap as they activate their skill but nothing happened, it's because only the strongest active skill takes effect at a given time. they only stack with the specialoptimally you want one active skill running at all times
It's annoying how disincentivized you are from making full gen units
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>>576733918>I like the gen 0 girls bestbased beyond belief.