#2043 - Monitored editionCampaign Evolved News:>Campaign Evolved reportedly had "troubled development"https://www.ign.com/articles/halo-campaign-evolved-reportedly-had-a-troubled-development-that-impacted-a-now-canceled-multiplayer-project>July 29th "day one" Update Patch Detailedhttps://support.halowaypoint.com/hc/en-us/articles/51876915911572-Halo-Campaign-Evolved-Patch-Notes-July-29-2026>GPU Benchmarks Testedhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/halo-campaign-evolved-performance-benchmark/General Halo News:>Halo Studios hit by Layoffshttps://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/halo/halo-studios-is-the-latest-xbox-games-studio-to-be-hit-by-layoffs-just-days-after-campaign-evolved-launch-as-reports-reveal-troubled-development>Open PvP Competition at "HaloFest"https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/halo-fest-july>E-Sports Competition at "HaloFest"https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/halo-fest-competitionPrevious >>576553337
Thank you.
Halo.
it's so easy to rile you all up
The Endless has arrived
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I wont ritualpost this thread because Im disappointed in myself for ritualposting in the other one.
We will outlive this schism.
Bleach is the root of all.
Will (You) be attending Halo Fest this December?
>>576677726
I pirated the game and I still can't bring myself to play it.
>>576678038Ask yourself: What would Minto do?
I can beez 4runner?
>>576678081Quit after one death?
>>576678140Well, that's a start.
>>576677726>900k polygonsWay off. Levels are over 100 million. Most weapons are in the 200k region, Warthog over 1 million, Pelican 4.3 million, ect.Fucking Nanite.
>>576678081who
>waited 5 years for a shitty remake>5 more for the next game>the bull canceled mfw
H5 PC when
>>576678140Alright, that's enough. I'm initiating the AI to remove the filters on the condition that he does exactly that.
The filter will be maintained.
Classic Halo
>>576678592Guyver IS Halo
Me when people talk about Halo IRL.
erm
Me when the Regulars talk about IRL politics.
>>576678792
Me when people don't reply to my posts.
>>576678792The Regulars are gone. You have to let them go.
>>576678967he means "the boys"ironically they're led by Red who is dates back before even the regulars, but apparently he's about to disappear forever to be a deadbeat Dad or somethingThe era of Baza & Bros is upon us
>*HUFF*>*HUFF*>*HUFF*>*HUFF*>*HUFF*
Baza is NOT my leader.
Nobody likes Baza enough to let him lead us on these trying times, sorry but this is the end of the line for many of us.
>>576679095
lol the bros... when will he take the throne
Red will be back in 6 months.It's gonna be hard, but I believe in you.
>>576679258
>>576679363>It's gonna be hard, but I believe in you.Are you talking to him or us?
I'll show hard...*ziiiiiiiiip*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7NJyoLflu0It's UP
I like Campaign Evolved
The SUCCESSOR's era is coming...
>>576679512Buy an ad.
me when i boot up tmcc to play some matches only to be getting pestered and fucked by my cat
>>576678658>>576678792>>576678934>>576679175>>576679637Forced and cats are not Halo.
I was paid to post that
be nicer to yeeze
>>576679789SYBAU
Hey Yeeze give me your gooning alt
It looks like the Covenant wanted to catch you napping.
>altWe do it on main.
My spartan looks like this btw
>>576680215hot
>>576680354cripple
>>576679309not funny
>>576677421who was that woman video essayist who did a critique of why halo 4's campaign was dogshit? one of the first critiques was was that chief's dialogue, "I thought we had a truce with the covenant" was completely wrong: the covenant collapsed from civil war, they had a truce with the arbiter's elitesat least, I thought it was a woman, I might be mixing things uplust provoking image
it's just JJAB91 from reddit
>>576680775That line just reminds of that one fucking Halo Legends short where they recapped Halo 3, and the UNSC and the Covenant team up to defeat the Flood.Like, what the fuck Frankie how did you believe this is what happened in Halo 3?
>>576680796irregular
>>576680775>woman
>>576680215how does she fit the braid in her helmet, HUH?
>>576679789Erm... redditsister...
>>576681249You've done her
OPI gang status?
>>576680796its formerly now
>>576681249anything made by 343 isn't halo>>576680961he didn't play the game
>>576677421she cute
Remember what they took from you.
>>576684149Reach was better.
>>576684149>Remember what they took from you.
really missing kat right about now
>>576679789Catgirls are unfortunately Halo.
>>576688068that's doom
>5 years for this
>6 years for this
>>576689970They really named this character Angry Nigga
>3 years for this
>>576689919>>576689970>>576690182Forced
>4 years 7 months 10 days for this
Lucky it only took 4 MINUTES. Just one minute longer and Escharum would have had to use two hands to show Chief he can count. Chief would have bullied and humiliated him by only raising one hand to show the same value.
>>576677421To think we are in a timeline where the lads lived but Cortana died. I wonder if they'll stick with that.
>>576693109who are these "lads"?
>>576677569Always cool to get a sense of scale for the Spartans. I'll enjoy that a lot once I get around to CER and that 3rd-person Skull.
>>576677984Wonderful mid-development shot. I wonder if a purple visor was considered or if that was reflecting a light source.
How do you respond?
>>576693916They changed the visor cubemap pretty frequently. There's nothing to support this theory but I wonder if they were thinking about having a different one for each map instead of just keeping the generic gold glassy cubemap for everything.
>>576694348Noted, fun to hear development tidbits. The many faces and phases of the super soldier.
>>576694282It's surprisingly undiplomatic of Lehto considering how he usually answers criticism, but the person he's replying to could've been far more focused on constructive feedback than slinging memespeak around. Still, I'm not a fan of any opinion that goes "game's fun let's gloss over the flaws", not even from Lehto. Pointing out what needs work, collectively and consistently, only increases the odds of an even better offering next time. People are strangely allergic to calling for better quality, despite how subpar the handling for Halo has been since CEA.
>>576694442What's the deal with #3 being made out of meat
>>576694460Maybe it really is one of the best remakes despite its flaws but>faithful>definitiveNo need for the dishonesty when they can just focus on the honestly good elements
>>576694779Should have been less faithful. The only bits I like and would replay are the ones where it diverges.I can't imagine myself ever going "hmm I feel like replaying Halo on the remake".
>>576694705I can only guess it was a rough test for a more earthy/jungle camo pattern
>>576694779THEY NAIL. THE. SWAMP!
>>576694926Considering that's more work (and assumes they can design good new level geometry) I only expected the same levels but possibly high fidelity version of each designI was looking forward to the possibility of Halo Reborn coming out with its premise of expanding the arsenal and terrain so done well I wouldn't pass up such an offering from anyone
>>576695145I do like the swamp - a great example of one of those honestly good elements
>>576677569fortunately it wasn't too difficult to edit the scowl off his face lol
>Quake: Dawn of the Machine – Available TodayWhy doesn't Halo have kino custom maps and levels like Doom and Quake? We got:>SPV3 (Masterz1337 wild ride)>Campaign Evolved (UE5 asset flip)>Operation: Meteorite (Dude, remember Long Night of Solace, Truth and Reconciliation and High Charity)
>>576696176>low overall interest in halo>the modding community is fucking horrific (documentation? what is that? nah mate join our discord and ask questions that won't get answered)>requires a fuck load of technical skill and time to actually make stuff
>>576696176>>576696568I liked Lumoria
>>576677984>>576693916>>576694348Post more Halo dev tidbits
>>576696568>those elites snapping between their combat and patrol state because of reachisms
>>576696650Lumoria and Mercury Rising were fun, but I don't usually play mods for anything with so many games out there.
>>576697394I really enjoy this one and the one about Shiek and Jason reflecting on the colorfulness of the Covenant.
>>576697394
>>576697816How impressive was the texture work and resolution for 2001? There are a lot of 512x512 textures
So how does the flooding work againDoes a spore need to strangle someone dead first to convert their body into flood or do they bodyjack and convert on the fly, because I saw they can reanimate corpses and they try to hide bodies from the flood
>>576698172We'll have to wait for an expert to weigh on on that one.
>>576698491Both
earthark...
Jaime Griesemer agreeing that OG Xbox bottlenecked Halo 2
>>576698954Would be interesting if someone managed to take the level to completion someday>>576699209I wonder why they weren't sure of Xbox's limitations sooner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUhxHfD1jiM
>>576679897anon05738
GOOD MORNING MINTO
>>576699852>I wonder why they weren't sure of Xbox's limitations soonerlack of transparency, lack of communication, information moved slower
Bros I'm starting to think UE5 was a mistake
>>576702950>the unoptimized chinese game engine nobody knows how to use effectively despite it being an industry standard for the past decade might've been a mistakeHow have gamedev studios not learned that custom game engines used by the people who made them are infinitely better than trying to outsource the work to a bunch of subhumans who don't know how to effectively use worse tools?
>>576703171Yes but anon have you considered, it's cheaper to spam contractors than it is to keep on full time employees for a bespoke engine?These poor publishers simply cannot afford it.
>>576702179If I think about it I can see itGood thing the turnout was still enjoyable
>>576699852>I wonder why they weren't sure of Xbox's limitations soonerBungie had problems of coming up with ideas and not finding out if it's even possible after they've already spent 3 months working on it.
>>576703171>>576703287Not just that, but it's also cheaper to fire people with 20+ years of experience and replace them with some dope fresh out of college. And that dope only has experience with UE5. It just keeps everything smooth if we don't have to teach people and foster growing skills. I just need them to be familiar enough with a single toolset to import all the chinese AI generated assets.
>>576703456>wires and paper everywheresoul
>>576685648tbf all spartans were cheeked up in reach, carter had a bigger ass than kat
thats enough cheeks
we need more cheeks
NOfirst we STOP pierreTHEN we deal with the cheeks
>>576703968Always fun to observe the detailed backgrounds in the dev videos - whiteboards, various shades of Xbox, Halo figurines and more
>>576704808
i'm going through the Bungie games again with some friends, and since i'm the only old halo fan out of our group(the others have NEVER played many shooting games, much less halo), they keep asking me questions.the problem is, i don't remember what is and isn't bungie lore. i never got around to reading every book that was out when bungie were in charge still, and for simplicity's sake, i'd rather NOT get into 343 lore and retcons because i'm unsure if we're even going to finish the bungie games, much less go into halo 4.i am NOT here to hate on 343, i am not here to start a fight; i'm simply asking if there's an archive for my friends and i to refer to while they get into the series with the bungie games.
>>576694460>the definitive way
>>576703968Found the one I was originally looking for
>>576706520All I can say is I'm glad they're immersed enough to be pondering the implications, but I'm sure someone else will weigh-in with a Bungie-era timeline.
>>576706541>the definitive way
>>576694460>one of the best remakes of all timewho even said this
>>576704682>hank_hill.jpg
they nailed the swamp so its the best remake ever, surpassing your favorite remakes dumbass
>>576707365Has anybody figured out what Guilty Spark says here as its flying away? I heard in an interview with Marty that 343 says something very important but they fucked up the audio mixing during that cut and it was too late to fix by then.
>>576707994>they nailed the swampMe when I play UNREAL GFXFAGS cineglitter sloppa.
>>576707365and somehow, "sorry, hopefully someone else can help" is more helpful than the halo subreddit that banned me for this same question.
>>576703287>>576703857but it's cheaper to do it right the first time in the long run because then you don't have to pay the inept contractors to go and stumble around in the dark to fix it 20 times
>>576710038>thinking ahead
>>576706520>i'm simply asking if there's an archive for my friends and i to refer to while they get into the series with the bungie games.there's halopedia, and I believe it lists the source for most if not all of its articles at the bottom of its page. if the source is from a book that came out after bungie left, or from a post-bungie halo installment, you can ignore it. halopedia should also have a page on the books that differentiates them by release.you can also relay some of your questions here, and anons should be able to answer them. the main thing that differentiates bungie lore and 343 lore is this:>humans ARE forerunnersif you start hearing about "ancient humanity's war with the forerunners", that's retarded nu-lore shit where ancient humanity, who were on-par with the forerunners (y'know the guys who built the halo rings), fell into ruin because they found Flood jerky and fed it to their pets because they thought it made good dog food
>>576706520>>576710805oh, you also cannot trust any terminal entries even though they were technically bungie-era, because the guy that wrote them was not part of the main lore team, so he was basically writing shitty fanfic that later became the basis for 343 lore
>>576707780A “journalist” with dozens of readers
Mmm flood jerky
best thing about 343 lore is how they made the covies literally subhumankilling a covie is no different than flushing a turd. Remember Reach, TCD.
They were always subhuman as far as I'm aware. Specifically the kiggers, FUCK kiggers.
>>576707029leave me alone
Fuck buggers. honestly surprised bungie got away with that. Shit was funny
Gears of WarE-dayMultiplayer beta
buy an ad
>>576711148
>>576699209>OG Xbox bottlenecked Halo 2This was obvious from the beginning
>>576711058when she turned the elites into pajeets, nobody seemed to notice. they were more concerned with how she portrayed a child murderer as a bad person. halo lorefags are a bizarre breed.
>>576699209All these remakes and remasters with Halo 1 and 2 and yet all people really wanted was just the restoration of cut game content and graphical effects rather than Unreal Engine eye candy and Blur FMV cutscenes taking up 50GB of space.
>B-b-but Bungie hated the booksLiterally in the Halo 2 design docs
>>576710805i'm aware of the Forerunner retcon, lol. what i'm mostly curious about, because it's been such a long time since i read anything other than the actual text of the games, is what we knew about the covenant species, the spartan i/iii program, and such.the iv program always bothered me, because it has almost no consistency narratively. the orion project/i program was just augmenting grown marines, and had poor results, as far as i'm aware, so it was shelved. so, four years after halo 3, the UNSC just... modifies fully grown marines and they grow three feet and become godly supersoldiers on part with even the best of the best ii program candidates, and THIS TIME it just works because.... it just works, okay? the only good thing to come from the iv program is that palmer is pretty, and that can't begin to make up for the dumb writing.anyway, rant aside, one of my friends keeps asking about the covenant species, what we know about them, how they live, etc etc. he's a writer in his spare time and enjoys worldbuilding and such, AND he's curious enough about both versions of the lore. to paraphrase, "i want to see the original vision, but i also am curious about the new lore too". i was hoping there would be a nice, clean archive that had the old stuff available that one could refer to, since Halopedia tends to have a lot of both.i don't really HATE all of 343's lore, either; some of the backstory for the covenant races is neat, and i enjoy the ideas, but my friend asked about the old stuff too, lol.thanks for the reply.
>>576712056Halo 2 did have another Spartan in it, tho
>>576711809nobody cares about bookshit, nor should theythis is why 343's games make no sense, all the major universe changing plat threads happen off-screen>the didact actually didn't die when chief exploded him off a bridge into a bottomless pit, but then he dies in a book. or maybe he doesn't. also he has an evil twin, or is the evil twin. who writes this shit?>elite who is now the head of the covenant is built up in the books as some huge badass>unceremoniously killed off at the start of h5 and nobody knows who he is>cortana is now the defacto ruler of the universe at the end of halo 5>everything pertaining to that happens in a book>she dies before halo infinite and nothing really mattered
>>576710038Higher upfront budgeting scare shareholders. Paying contractors down the line means we can put the cost into another fiscal quarter or year so it doesn't seem as bad, especially when we lay off the initial team and can put their salaries into the "savings" column
>>576711809I thought that cover and the idea of seeing Mark 7 was so cool but I never did get around to that book before I stopped trusting 343 lore to be worth my timeI even wrote a kind of Didact and Mark 7 into my own ideas prompted partially due to 343's public stance of not being a game's company, so when Marcus would later say many of 343's ideas are similar but not how he'd have done things I felt what he meant in my own wayMaybe we only got rid of the 343 art style because other parts of the games weren't strong enough to carry it, but maybe we only got it in the first place because of that "too traditional" reaction to that first 'vertical slice'
>>576696650>I liked Lumoria
>>576680354ouu shit
>>576710961His name is Frank O'Connor. A nobody at Bungie who got the keys to the franchise, somehow, when Microsoft formed 343.He was responsible for the terminals, which go against the entire trilogy's story and even 343 Guilty Spark saying to Chief "You ARE Forerunner". 343 "fans" will say they absolutely without doubt override everything that came before, because some lines of text, in some obscure terminals, written by someone that barely had any input at all in the writing of the games, that the majority of the playerbase won't bother looking for, take priorityThere are some that say the forerunner trilogy books are much better than the story told through the 343 games but anything that rewrites Humans as not being the Forerunners I immediately disregard
>>576712216not reading the green bitsi don't agree with your black bits at allpeople were incredibly intrigued, nay, mesmerized when i told them about halo lore in custom games back in the dayhalo books are cooland bungie agreed, which is why the games are full of references to it and lifted entire concepts from it like ODSTs, the Seraph fighter, and Cairo Stationthe books are shit tier literature but do not pretend that people don't carepeople who didn't play the campaign might not carebut those cod cretins aren't included in any game discussion
>>576712056Notice how they didn't implement the idea despite his preference
>>576712612>the books are shit tier literatureWhat ISN'T shit tier literature nowadays with how badly language and people's ability to read it has fallen?
>>576694460>the definitive wayDo they know MCC exists?
>>576712056That tired meme long since fell apart under scrutiny (or even just paying attention to the games) but there were times it was worth ignoring previous details. I enjoyed TFoR greatly but I'm glad the detail about Elites showing up for the first time/en masse was changed to allow for Halo Wars and any other media that'd want Elites prior to Reach. Marty and Marcus have both spoken of plans for plot after the Ark that'd require a whole trilogy and I'm sure those also show appropriate picking-and-choosing what Bungie-era details to bring forward or adjust.
bungie lore is >See that alien? He glassed Reach. Here's a magnum.>ZOMBIES AAAAAAH, I WASNT TRAINED FOR THIS! THERE'S TOO MANY OF THEM!>Wait, the the covenant is trying to jonestown the entire universe? Religion, amirite...
>>576712723Literature is all shit now because conservative White men aren't allowed to be published and haven't been allowed since the 90's. The commies took firm control of the book publishing industry. Even Jewish women are starting to get the short end of the stick. >>576713354Don't be a nigger
>You are ForerunnerAnyone else really confused by this line?? So ambiguous
>>576713441Chief is in his 40s, he's more forerunner than me
>Catherine... is that really you?
>>576712120from what I understand about the spartan program, and some of this may have come from nu-shit>spartan 1s/project ORIONfirst attempt at making super soldiers. it's kinda meh, they do a little gene therapy and give them some combat steroids, that's kind of it. they collect a decent amount of info though to improve the process down the line, and they do learn that some ORION offspring inherit some of the genetic augmentations>spartan 2sthey learned from the ORION program that for the augmentations to work best, you've gotta use kids with pre-determined genetic markers that allow the gene treatments to take the most effect. they also start giving them cybernetic augmentation. this method produces the best quality of spartan, but has a high casualty rate. they again collect info on the augmentation process to improve it.>spartan 3sOUR SHIT IS GETTING PUSHED IN SUPER HARDQUICK GRAB SOME TEENAGE WAR ORPHANS AND GIVE THEM SOME BARGAIN-BIN TEMU AUGMENTATIONS THAT DON'T KILL HALF OF THE TRAINEESGO GO GO SHOVE 'EM OUT THE DOOR>spartan 4sthey've learned from the 2's and 3's augmentation process how to safely produce what is essentially a better 3 out of a fully grown marine, but their technology is better than both the 2's and 3's was originally (2s and 3s getting upgraded augmentations still puts them on-par or better than 4s)afaik regarding species lore, a lot of it remained exactly the same, save for the elites turning from space samurai into space muslims the longer 343 has their hands on them
>>576713564she dressed like such a cunt in those movies
>>576713441No, he was totally rampant and insane when he said it, it doesn't count goys trust
>>576712612I am clearly talking about new bookshit, not old bookshit. old bookshit was cool because it largely had the same writer and he had a plan
>>576713718the motivation is importantorion was abandoned because there wasn't much value or need for itspartan 2 is done because the galactic equivalent of iran has obtained nuclear weapons and has began using them and then spartan 3 happens because the covenant show up and they need to save money to build shipsspartan 4 makes no sense 343 just thought marines were shit despite there being an entire game about ODSTs kicking ass for 6 hours>>576714035i clearly told you i didn't read the green bits, numbskulldon't try to weasel your way out of this hole you've dug yourself into come clean and i'll drop you a ladder
lore is not halo
>>576713564who is this crimson chin and why should i care
>>576714205>lore is not halotrvke
>>576714179>motivationson this I totally agree, though I guess the reasoning for 4s is that they still have to deal with the rest of the covenant empire, they know how to make super soldiers safely and cheaply now, and they realize the only reason they even got as far as they did was because of the chief. having more of him seems like a good idea, just as a backup.i still hate them though, you're absolutely right. have we even seen ODSTs since reach?>>576714179>i clearly told you i didn't read the green bits, numbskullthat's your own fucking fault then retard
>>576713798But somehow he gets all these complex technical matters right that could easily cause fatalities if he was mistaken. Of course Gravemind gets something out of backing a lot of this up... The thought of a timeline where Chief being guided by a Sentinel or a Sub-Monitor to find an Elite dead or despairing at the location of the Index, Spark just wondering the whole time why this 'Reclaimer' couldn't access it, is a bit amusing. Who knows, maybe that was part of the script where Cortana went mad with power.
343i lore isn't halo
>>576713441It makes perfect sense. After years of heavily implying we finally get confirmation right at the end of the trilogy.343 and their "fans" still to this day claim forerunner tier rampancy. "He was crazy bro!!!"To explain to any new fans getting in to the trilogy it's an example of 343s shitty retconsIt'd be like if Disney decided to retcon Vader being Lukes Father and he was just high on the dark side
>>576714205Except the Halo 1 manual’s lore
Frank won btw his headcanon is official canon
Marty won
rob mclees won big league
what is 343 lore on forerunners and ancient humans
>>576716230Forerunners are a race of aliens that called themselves the forerunners and ancient humans were their enemies but also their chosen people
>>576677984>>576678134Was CEA good on a technical level?
>>576716230stupid.1st there were precursors, living godsthey made all life in the cosmos, forerunner and human alikethe precursors were gonna give h
Nobody won. Everybody lost.
Earth Arkhttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1171442839452925952/1468713794447609896/20260204_160342.mp4?ex=6a76f10f&is=6a759f8f&hm=f48826de97da42dc26ae8f40730e74c717721cf59cdf1ea7064967b701b4cbf9&
>groomercordDie.
>>576678945>Get it right in halo 2, devs proceed to change cortana's design in every following game (except 3 ig)What causes this?
>>576715664Rare name.
Did Bungie actually fire Jason Jones?
eday is fine i dont hate it
>>576717016*give humans the "mantle of responsibility" (as though it were a physical thing. 343 does not understand what the mantle is. it's the responsibility to benevolently watch over life throughout the cosmos)the forerunners didn't like that, so they killed all the primordialsthe primordials turned themselves into magic space dustthe forerunners now are demigods after ousting the primordialsthe primordial space dust eventually corrupts and mutates into the floodancient humanity somehow finds this and uses it as dog food for their petsthis causes ancient humanity to start running away from the flood into forerunner spacethey find some infected forerunner worlds and burn them to prevent more flood spreadforerunners see this as an act of war and devolve humans into cavemenforerunners now get their shit stomped by the flood, make the halos, and start collecting species to freezebefore the forerunners fire the halos, some of them realize they fucked up and now willingly pass the mantle (again, as if it's a thing) to humanity before microwaving themselves into extinctionautomated systems unfreeze and reseed all life through the galaxyhumanity eventually evolves and the events of halo happen
What do you want to see in Halo 2 UE5?
twerking sangheilis
>>576718320I don't.
>>576702950>Bros I'm starting to think UE5 was a mistakeactually that's not really the issuePeople all around the world work with it so development can be more streamlinedThe issue is more just laziness and rushed projects.
>>576718320Hopefully the Elites are high fidelity version of Halo 2's or at least something like this though I prefer the undersuit that seems more like (second) skin at a glance
>>576716961noit's a downgrade
>>576717890He's JJFAB26 now,
>>576718803You're getting Halo 4 Elites in a Reach costume and you will like it.
>>576718110Wow, the change really was that retarded wasn't itGlad I preferred humans being forerunners to the nushit
>>576718861Surprisingly, I can say I doubt that. What is unfortunately likely is H2A or even Infinite/CER Elites with their very visually layered undersuits that seem more like the UNSC made them.
>>576718320I'll tell what I don't want to see. Elevators, Gondolas, and holding down an area until the door decides to open very slowly. We don't need to spend 15-20 minutes in a spot fighting wave after wave of enemies. Either make this shit move faster or make it less of a slog.
Halo 2 design doc character concept sheetSpartan III in Halo 2
>>576716961Neat concept to switch back and forth between old and new graphics. Problem is the model proportions don’t actually work in nugraphics. But it’s actually not that big of a deal because the new art style is shit too. So you can just switch to classic graphics. Except classic graphics are botched too because it’s the gearbox port. They’re somewhat fixed on MCC (after over a decade) But the 360 Standalone CEA is still a mess. Now it’s not unplayable but it’s hard to recommend. If you’re on an old console like the 360 why not just go one generation back and play the original?
>>576719449>Sniper Rod>Disintegrator>ShredderHuh?
>>576702950Unreal Engine is what ran Unreal Tournament, Gears of War, and Mass Effect and Arkham. And this is the latest version. It's up to the devs to make good games with it. (skill issue) If they don't want to or know how to make good games, then maybe they should reevaluate whether or not they should even be in this industry in the first place.
>>576718803Best we can do are generated assets from a chinese sweatshop
>>576719875Or maybe UE5 is dogshit unlike its previous iterations?
>>576719072this isn't even getting into shield worlds, the didact, the ur-didact, the librarian's genius keikaku (translator's note: keikaku means "plan"), the domain, fucking NEURAL PHYSICS, etc.
>>576719995Why would it be any worse? Devs don't have to use the default settings. They can implement their own stuff for certain things in the game. They're not forced to use TSAA or upscaling. Nanite doesn't need to handle everything for them in terms of performance and LODs/lighting, they can still do certain things manually. Hell, they could even playtest their game before releasing it maybe.
>>576720321I mean yeah not to mention them deciding to kill the Rookie off in a fucking book, but yeah gotta say, all their changes really are pretty retarded
>>576720321>shield worlds, the didact, the ur-didact, the librarian's genius keikaku (translator's note: keikaku means "plan"), the domain, fucking NEURAL PHYSICSGet into those, please.
Do you know what that bitch called me after our first game of chess?
How is the third person mode in combat evolved anniversary 2?
>>576720321I love how humans were programmed through their DNA to create Spartans and AIs.Nothing do with human ingenuity, just some random alien bitch a 100,000 years ago made them do it.
>>576714629you clearly didn't read parts of my post either, moronexcept you weren't clear about it because you're just a plain old double digit dumbassyou'll stay in your hole
>>576721915>you clearly didn't read parts of my post either, moron>except you weren't clear about it because you're just a plain old double digit dumbass>you'll stay in your hole
>Halo 5 is graphically and technically better than Infinite and Campaign EvolvedI'm tired bros
>>576722060pic is how i genuinely feel guy should've paid better attention lmao
>>576722060I always thought that pic looked badass.
>>576719449Makes enough sense I suppose, but it's nice to have this insight. Since this is before GoO I wonder how they differed.Sometimes I still think about how the Prophets were planned for CE and may have ended up an Elite with a funny hat. I'd say the Prophet crowns and Councilor helmets are good designs, so I wonder what this design was that was considered funny.
Marty stated that Halo 2 was the intended ending because of how bad the profit sharing was between Bungie and Microsoft. Bungie made maybe 15% of the profits from Halo. They were going to leave Microsoft and make a new IP with 100% ownership after Halo 2.
>>576722163Post Sloppa Evolved at max settings on and 12+ VRAM card.
>>576719936Hao Chen weeps...
>>576723565>Post Sloppa Evolved at max settings on and 12+ VRAM card.9950X3D2 + 5090 + 2000W PSU
>>576723545What Once Was Lost
>>576720849I can't because I tried to get into them at one point but they were all so conceptually stupid or handled so poorly that I lost interest
>>576723539man I just realized the protrusions on the prophet's chairs are meant to resemble angel wings
>>576693109The way things are going i won't be surprised when Halo 7's ending is just a campaign timeline reset back to the remakes. And then they just scratch everything after Halo 3 remake and start onwards from there again.
>>576723950some retard last thread had the gall to tell me tank forms worked perfectly
I think we're just getting started.
>>576723545Grifters still crying woke whenever a new game dropsThey don't even know what woke means anyway
>>576694460My sides, they keep desperately tweeting about buying the remake and are not just showering people with gift skins due to sales numbers means that it kinda underperformed, perhaps not a flop, but it definitely just sank after its big release splash.No floating just deep into the waters it went.
>>576724891I don't see any difference between either studios except incels crying over women in the workplace.
>>576725073it's like the air in a potato chip bag of vidya gaems
>>576697703Mercury Rising made me realize it is stupid as fuck that 6 mainline games in we have not fought any non-spartan but similar or a traitor yet. Guaranteed at least good boss, hard to fuck it up.No, both Halo Wars don't count!!!
>>576724752It's anyone's guess. For all I know Halo 2 will get another remake that will shift into a new path, whether it's slight, following the original ending to some unknown degree or more of a HS-original. Although, perhaps two remakes in a row is unlikely as far a releases go. Only counter-point to that I can think of is that an all-new release wouldn't necessarily be Halo 7 and could be a spin-off or MP-only title.I could even see a timeline where CER gets more bonus missions, Firefight and multiplayer, just to keep positive press rolling until H2R or a brand new game. Then again I'm not 100% up-to-date and maybe certain plans are already confirmed.
>>576718320On-rails sections like the Gondolas removed and instead replaced by vehicular combat sections, land or air or both. I understand that Marty's music tism and the need to stretch the game is why they exist in the original, but technical limitations are no longer an excuse now.
>>576725363Post more Bungie era kino
>>576718803It's going to be the Infinite Elites again but with armor touchups.What i hope is that they fix the atrocious enemy pop numbers per difficulty. There were no zealots when playing as the Master Chief unless you did Legendary in which they were the easiest enemy of the bunch to take on because the sword doesn't get aimbot, and they don't really lunge anymore, that lack of lunge also needs to be fixed.
>>576725363>>576725658Back in 2005 and 2006 the biggest anticipation was the Halo 2 Soundtrack CD.>The most common question I get asked is, "Where is the Halo Soundtrack Vol. 2?" Well, I just went over to the very fount of aural pleasuring, Mr. Marty O'Donnell who looked me straight in the eye and with a glint of wry, grandfatherly wisdom said, "The soundtrack is done, and mastered and ready to be shipped off to the factories. It is not being held up by me, Nile Rodgers, or by any of the artists signed by Nile Rodgers, contrary to internet rumors." With a twirl of his cape and a tip of his top hat, he rapped his cane and bid me good day!>Pete Parsons and Joe Staten are, as I write this, in New Zealand, at WETA, with Peter Freakin' Jackson, where they're brainstorming the Halo movie, and more importantly, walking around in a starry-eyed haze, marveling at Orc costumes, Centaur swords and giant gorillas. Every ten minutes or so, uberfanboy Pete will instant message me with some new bulletin, like, "OMG I just saw Andúril, the Flame of the West!" Or, "Oh wow! I stole some soft leather green point-toed boots. I am Elvenshod! See how I prance, as light and airy as an Elf in his aerie." Yep, that is just how Pete rolls. >Sound tools are a big deal this time around, since there's no dedicated audio processor in the Xbox 360, so there's a lot more "book keeping" for our audio wizards. This time around they have to keep better track of what goes where and when - on Xbox they could rely on the hard drive for sloppy stuff, but this time around everything has got to be buttoned up real tight.Bungie loved Dead or Alive and Japanese gameshttps://halo.bungie.org/bwu/index.html?item=42https://halo.bungie.org/bwu/index.html?item=51Frankie jokes about ritalin kids and DBZ. Somehow this guy got to be in charge of the Halo franchise?https://halo.bungie.org/bwu/index.html?item=38
>>576725861nah
>>576725073A side project that's a second remake attempt after the first was the start of a terrible decade for the previous iteration of the studio kinda shouldn't be a "big release splash". It just should've been a great start that showed they could at least follow an existing blueprint and just make the same structure with modern advantages. They did not. It's like getting less than 100% on an open-book test.
>>576725389that'd make for a very boring generic enemy typebasically the banished brutes but lamerthey keep trying to set up "spartan, but EVIL" as a potential future enemy type, but that'll just be like, a lame multiplayer bot at the end of the day
>>576725623If by the time Halo 2 remake releases, there are no signs of Halo 7 or a standalone multiplayer, i am going to assume the plan is baking it into Halo 3 remake as a free multiplayer like with Infinite, in hopes of nostalgiabaiting people into inflating its numbers and buying micros.
Halo sucks now
We have to destroy Halo
>>576722163
>>576726482I hate greebleshit just for greebleshit's sake so much>>576726429>>576726442>plot of CE
343s weird obsession with Plastic Halo in Infinite
>>576726086Aren't Infinite's Elites bosses or just the generic warlords and ultras "worse Spartan bots"?, Chak' Lok is more forgiving than an MP bot with overshields rocking a sword and a pulse carbine. I confirmed that, without my consent, several times in customs. The only reason Infinite's spartan bots are not scarier is because they cannot drive vehicles.
CE would have been more fun if it had the BR and the Covenant Carbine.
>>576726819all their games are like that
>>576726850>CE would have been more fun if it had the BR and the Covenant Carbine.
>>576726850Needle Rifle is the only well designed precision weapon in the entire series. Barring the sniper of course that’s fine but it’s really a power weapon
>>576725861>New Zealand, at WETAI've been thinking about visiting them and getting some cool stuff made should I live to see financial goals met.>Nile RodgersI always enjoy behind-the-scenes stuff, but Marty describing the enthusiasm of Niles and other over the game and even the music is one of the especially memorable things.
>>576727031It also would have been better with the DMR and the Brute Shot.All I'm saying is SPV3 is better than vanilla CE.
>>576727143>All I'm saying is SPV3 is better than vanilla CE.
>>576726086Ah right, the terminals of ce remake bonus missions confirm the prophet spartans mofos are coming back alongside the real prophet-lead covenant.Waypoint chronicles book 1 also canonized the chimera core strogg-looking bitches, by the thousands in their first production batch too.The "edgy evil spartan oc" roster is pretty much complete already, they are just not aware of each other, yet. Which means it is getting reserved for a 4-way confrontation between factions.
>>576727348Yes, I love SPV3.The extended levels on AotCR and TB are shit though.
>>576727504nah
>>576727348Other anon completely destroyed by this
>>576727695Doesn't matter if you disagree. That won't change my feelings.
>>576726850True, if they're not replacing the crisp 3-shot powerhouse. I love the Carbine for its sights and sounds alone and the Covenant having more to fire back at me with would be fun.I'm only unsure of how having a Carbine would affect their behavior. I suppose if it's still outnumbered by the PR, PP and Needler there won't be too many enemies who stay back more often than trying to approach together and flank.
>>576726850>>576727975Halo CE remake in the Halo 2 engine. How kino would it have been?
>>576727348This is the one time I'm glad to see the hands meme
>>576728230>worse ai>can only have around 20 ai on screen at once>can't have bsps as large as ce>way uglierNot very kino.
>>576728230That’s actually an interesting idea. I’ve heard of halo 2 in halo 1 engine but not the inverse
>>5767284264/4 incorrect points
>>576728513>y-y-you're j-just w-wrong
>>576728598post your proof then
>>576728458SPV1 was basically Masters1337 modding Halo 2 stuff into Halo CE in 2006SPV2 was basically Masters1337 modding Halo 3 stuff into Halo CE
>>576728230I lack the knowledge about whether H2's offers advantages over other engines at this point or back when CEA was being made.
>>576728649>>576728649>worse aiPlay the game.>can only have around 20 ai on screen at oncePlay the game, see how there's fuckall excepting infection forms using simpler AI. Or, mod it. Try spawning more. Notice how they go braindead.>can't have bsps as large as cePlay the game/mod it.>way uglierLook at or/and play the game.I know you 2fags haven't played the game since you were like 10 playing splitscreen with the dad you're now estranged from, but ffs.
>>576728785halo 2 has better ai, lighting, and physics
>>576728981>go on a wild goose chase for meso you have no proof, got ityou just invalidated all your previous posts
>>576728982Funny as fuck that if Jackals in Halo 2 detect a reflective surface behind or near your cover, they will try to guess the correct vector to ricochet a beam straight into your skull.Demake's jackals don't even know a fight is happening anymore when you get behind cover.
>>576718110>ancient humanity somehow finds this and uses it as dog food for their petsWhat
>>576729227grok is this true?
>>576728458>>576728694Masterz1337 was porting h2 levels to halo pc>So why port a H2 level? Well for one, those of us who have nothing much to do with CMT, are the ones who primarily focus on in gamed content. The second reason, is far more personal for me at least. I think Halo 2 is the weakest game in the series and I was severely disappointed in Halo 2 upon it's release. In fact, my disappoint with H2 is the reason why CMT was originally founded 8 years ago, as we believed we could take the ideas of H2, and do them right. . I think it's the worst game of the series. I believe this, because I believe the gameplay is inherently flawed, and that the campaign's story creates situations where the sandbox is limited (this mostly applies to Arbiter missions, but also chief). For every halo game since H2 everyone asks "Well, is it better than H1?">It is my belief that out of Bungie's series, Halo 1 has had the best gameplay. I also believe that CMT has created one of the best Halo gameplay experiences ever. So this is what we intend to do, starting with Delta Halo/Regret. We are going to port the level from H2, using as much data we can gather from H2 as we can. Unfortunately, due to castration of H2V, this is not as easy as it should. While the BSPs and scenery are value by value ported over, we are doing custom encounters, and custom cutscenes. Now, these encounters are not meant to be an exact replication of those in H2, but are rather based on them. There is also the challenge of content, as H2 does contain some new assets vital to missions. We will be releasing 2 versions of the map, one that uses the classic Halo Sandbox to the best of our ability, and another that takes advantage of the openly sourced CMT mod. With the H1 version, we plan to let you enjoy Halo 2's Delta Halo/Regret with Halo 1's legendary gameplayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEGF94FZ_BYhttps://forum.halomaps.org/index839f.html
>>576729227You're making that up. You're >>576728981
>>576729136>y-you're w-wrongGo back.
>>576729332I'm not leaving until you post proof.
>>576729294it's true, although for whatever reason I believe chicken and livestock were the main things. I think the old Waypoint app on the 360 had videos on stuff like this
>>576729456Play the game.
There was this guy who made list of shit Ruby's Rebalanced did wrong, but it feels like it was complete bullshit.
Halo 3 Combat Evolved...Kashiiera...
>>576729535Do you read these posts to yourself before you make them? wtf is this shit?
>>576729680Are you okay, Anon?
It's too easy to rile you guys up
>>576725073source is zeddikins
>>576729615>vaseline smudgelmao no thanksshit looks snapchat filters>>576729767It's the most indirect, passive aggressive, faggoty post i've seen on here in yearsGet your t-levels checked, nancy
>>576729908Sounds like a (You) problem, hombre.
You're all fish in my net
>>576729535>Ruby's RebalancedQRD on this? Sell me on it
>>576730087>QRD on this?"everything and the kitchen sink" slopmod but the author uses big words so midwits pretend it's good.
>>576730010what does?
>>576729615I wonder if anyone's ported some iteration of that model into CER yet
>>576730189>"everything and the kitchen sink" slopmod but the author uses big words so midwits pretend it's good.Did you get Jewby mixed up with SPVJeet?
>>576730087Basically a guy's take on what Bungie intended for Halo CE + his own personal onions on what the original game should be.It's a fun vanilla+ mod.
>>576729518Do you have your proof yet?
>>576730637Play the game.
>>576730510That is so far from the truth that you can't possibly be being honest. Why did he change the atmosphere of so many missions if that's the case?
>>576730790I think you might have reading comprehension issues, Anon.
its from twitter
>>576730957So you're just being dishonest, got it.
Toes Peaked with H2As Miranda KeyesFranchise is done
>>576729908first time seeing bloom system at work? heh newfags are in for a surprise.
>>576731054I said "+ his own personal onions on what the original game should be". I don't know where I was being dishonest here. Maybe you have esoteric knowledge you would like to share.
>>576728694You’re gay
Settle down now, anons. You have unplayed games to tend to.
Funny how Masterz1337 and Ruby hated Campaign Evolved
>>576731348>Funny how Masterz1337 and Ruby hated Campaign EvolvedIt's an official version of the shit they make. Of course they're butthurt. It's envy.
>>576731212One of the most basic concepts in math is arithmetic. This includes the very basic rule that if you add something negative you create a subtraction. Good lord, you Obama educated mini zoomers are cooked. How do you not understand simple things like this? And why should I be expected to assume this when replying to your insanely retarded statements?
>>576731906>One of the most basic concepts in math is arithmetic. This includes the very basic rule that if you add something negative you create a subtraction. Good lord, you Obama educated mini zoomers are cooked. How do you not understand simple things like this? And why should I be expected to assume this when replying to your insanely retarded statements?
>>576731906I accept your concession. This will be your last (You).
filtered post above
>>576728426>>worse ai>>can only have around 20 ai on screen at once>>can't have bsps as large as ce>>way uglierWhy is Halo 2 so much worse than CE?
>>576732317Because it had to run on the OG Xbox.
>>576732317Do you still have no proof?
>>576732482(you)
Man he really doesn't like Halo 2.
terminated post above
So you did miss me
>>576732712Forced
>>576732829I miss Sigmund
POV: it's Halo time
>>576732937Not Halo.
His entire existence is forced.He still lives in the past, wishing these were still the Halo 5 days.Truly pathetic.
ID Software's (still employed) Lead Programmer has SERIOUS criticisms of MSHe says>Impossible to make a AAA game of previous Doom standards with current employees.>Entire important departments and disciplines at studio gone.>Reassurances they're the same are a lie; they're half.>Studio management given talking points on what can/can't be said.>Reassurances are so more people don't jump ship fearing no future.>They're not the same size as when they shipped Doom 2016, they're fewer, despite higher game production demands.>ID Software has serious issues with how Game Pass has done.>Poor sales is an unfair metric due to Game Pass sales cannibalisation. Game Pass means it's not the same game sales business model.>Xbox doesn't understand art, or games or the business model.>Nor does Xbox understand what goes into making a game.Full Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA64Ogzm_VUDo you think we'll ever hear from 343 devs?
>Halo 5Doesn't exist. Not Halo.
>>576733019who cares about yid studios
>>576733019kys
>>576733019Too bad nothing will come out of this. They will just keep on hiring indians.
>>576733019microsoft got the memo to sabotage productivity
tell shade gaylo to ping @HALO when the session starts
>>576730087What if Halo 1 had cod weapon balance?
>>576718320Keep the chad AR from CEmakeAdd the DMR or bandit evo to deal with jackal snipersAdd the skewer from infinite, based anti-banshee weaponChief should get a grapple since arby gets camo, or something other than the fucking flashlightA few levels will need Library-style overhauls, QZ, Uprising and High Charity for sureNearly every other level will need some kind of facelift, either trimming reinforcements spam or redesigning/cutting entire sectionsBrute flood and flood juggernauts obvIdk there's probably more
Redpill me on Slipspace EngineWhat went wrong here?
Well?
>>576733254this, the master cheef mandate is intact!
why is there such aggressive shilling for those two awful modders today
>>576733408343i fired everyone who developed it.
Slopevolved players are on the blacklist
>>576733480You're really butthurt, as usual.I wonder what Masterz and Ruby did to you.Did they kick you out of their Discord? That's usually it.
>>576733682Hope they see this bro.
no one here can play then >b-b-but gamepass! i used gamepass!!dont care>but what if i pirated the game!??!dont care
>>576733710Answer the question.
>>576733814Masterz isn't gonna fuck you bro.
>>576733408Nothing really got done because M$ didn’t want full time employees they only had contractors. And because the Halo engine is proprietary new contractors had to spend half their contract’s time limit learning the engine specifics before being replaced. Rinse and repeat. Too many people working on it with no cohesion. Assume you had a problem, or question after just starting, how can you possibly communicate with the last nameless Indian contractor whose contract is over and he’s off working on something else. How do you know where to pick up even other than some vague ESL notes?
>>576733352>ARThere's a thought
>>576733853So Masterz banned you from his Discord and you're still assmad about it? Is that really it?
>>576733997(you)
Next time you come to rescue us, can you give us more time to pack?
>knowing these people have a discordshiggy
>>576733682Forced
>>576734119Damn, that's crazy. Maybe you should get over it.Also, the "y" in "(You)" is capitalized.
>>576734210(you)
Williams killed this franchise for good holy fuck.
>>576734172There won't be a next time if we don't stop the Banished
shade said playable grunts will save 2make is he spitting fire or sizzling chat
>>576734283It's ironic because after slopevolved Id gladly let a pantsless Palmer slowly choke me out with her thighsIt's definitely true that you don't know how good you've got it until it's gone.
>>576734526This mf spittin
>>576734526At around its best? Sure. Under Halo Studios? Coin flip.
>>576700819You wanna hear about what I did to Minto? You want to hear how I tied her to the bed? Not too tight, so I could watch her struggle. You want to hear about how I made her go down on her knees, forced myself inside of her? You want to hear how she was alone with me all night. She did things that... she never expected to do, that she never imagined were possible. With her fingers. With her mouth. Or do you want to hear how, at the beginning, she said she would do anything? I mean, she begged me for her life. And by the morning time, when she was lying, shaking, crying, bleeding, she was begging me to take her out of her misery.
>>576734283Maybe we should name the franchise after her.
>>576734526>Playable gruntsYou are not even getting playable Arbiter again, They are going to give you a Prelate with a poorly adjusted Spartan model and the Arbiter as his sidekick tell you to like it or fuck off.
>>576734583he's definitely spittin desudon't know about his halo takes tho
>7 hours ago
Shall we let the gay Muslim consume our holy thread? Turn /hg/ into another of his wretched hives?
>>576734526>playable gruntsForced
Adding forced to the AI filter.You can't be trusted with that word.
>>576734930>Adding forced to the AI filter.>You can't be trusted with that word.
Halo 2 induced PTSD>Max HobermanPeople are always shocked when they think about the impact multiplayer had on the quality of what we put out, and when I tell them all the hurdles that I faced. They think multiplayer must been what the majority of the studio was working on. Right? Uh, far from it.>Marty O’DonnellThe famous Halo 2 crunch was so bad. We had to renege on so many promises. And this is such a typical Bungie story, as it happens over and over again. We just couldn’t deliver.>Marcus LehtoI think Halo 2 has the darkest memories for me, personally. We struggled the most as a studio at that time, just to figure out what we wanted to make, how we were going to come off of that success of Halo and to ante it up. But we just didn’t have the right leadership at that time.>Marcus LehtoWe were obsessed with detail and with quality overall, so whatever we were going to ship, we knew it was going to be something that played well. But we all knew what it could’ve been, had we actually had our shit together.>Joe StatenWe were driven by the strong desire to outdo ourselves, but we didn’t fully understand our limitations. And it was a hard process to admit to ourselves that we couldn’t do everything.>Paul BertoneIt was basically a death march to the end. Nobody will say anything different, and if they do they’re just trying to sugarcoat it. Just a death march.>Jaime GriesemerSome of Halo 2 was great—the Xbox Live component was something nobody had ever done, the multiplayer was excellent. And a lot of really cool tech and story stuff happened. But we had to kill ourselves to get it done.>Paul BertoneI honestly thought that nobody was going to buy it, because the stuff we had to do at the end of the project felt so gut wrenching. But luckily, nobody saw how it was before, so for them it’s like all the stuff we took out just doesn’t exist.
>>576734930Forced
AI got that one.
>>576735131>AI got that one.
>>576735068Shut the fuck up.
Soul...
>>576735414Halo hater.
>>576735068The dark parts were memorable as well when watching behind-the-scenes content. Napping at the office, work causing strain elsewhere, list goes on.
>>576735068>>576735535Why don't we know much about Halo 4 and Halo 5 development? NDAs?
>>576735465lots of vehicles, bouncy physics, playable aliens in the mp. That's the spirit.
>>576735487>Halo hater.
>>576719875>UE5 was a mistakeCan also just mean the decision to use it and to hire the people who worked with it
>>576735068We are all reading this.
>>576729512No I just don't understand. They were feeding the flood to their pets/livestock?
Prelates
>>576736098the ai filter guy is rightyou're done, bucko
Carrier forms.
>>576736332Not Halo
>>576735695Possibly. Could just be enough's been said. Your Creative Director reporting one of the comments from higher-ups to one of the first builds was "too traditional" despite positive user research results? At that point everything else is just a bonus.
>>576735695>>576735535>>576736417>Marcus LehtoMarcus Lehto apologized to 343 for not giving them any documentations on how to use Bungie's engine>343 devMost people will never know what a huge accomplishment Halo 4 really was. The whole time we were building it we had to assemble a giant team of egos, working on crazy tech nobody could talk to the creators about, while the Internet kept telling us we would fail.>Marcus LehtoI feel horrible that you were handed our engine with absolutely no documentation.https://twitter.com/scottfeed/status/1148002314734592005Halo 4 not being a Sonic 2006 disaster is an achievement.
>>576736569>while the Internet kept telling us we would fail.They were right.
>>576736569Since 4 I've viewed 343 as a bunch of talent give poor priorities. It goes without saying that most decisions are made by one or a few people. Did some higher-up sit down and make all the major bad choices? Just enough that the people under them decided to try and play into it since a more respectable vision for Halo was already denied? I wonder. Halo's fortunate: many series die and stay gone with just one Halo 4-tier entry. Halo gets to keep holding on and maybe someday someone will tap into its existing potential in a respectable way.
>>576737032>April 2012 Game Informer reveals first details about Halo 4's multiplayer and it's so bad everyone thinks it's actually a jokeYou had to be there
lotta filtered posts today
Reclaimer!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYcEsGBWIkc
AH FILTERED YOU ALAWGS WATCHU THINK ABOUT THAT BISHDO YOU UNNASTAN MUFUCKERAH FILTERED YEEWWWWSUFFAH BIIIIISSSHHHH
>>576737117>with just one Halo 4-tier entry.What was wrong with Halo 4 again? Never played it
>>576737568This, but unironically.
>>576737165Yeah, whoever was taking the decisions really thought Halo was about to dethrone CoD with their own stuff so they kinda assumed the backslash was worth it, all of those voices would be the unimportant minority once nuHalo fans came in to support the game in droves.That so called unimportant minority is now all that's left. That they have left.
>>576736293At that point I believe "The Flood" was a kind of "dust" that they noticed had some kind of biological function. They decided they could use it as feed for their livestock343 lore. They also decided this material was actually some kind of corrupted ancient biological matter which then evolved when consumed thus we ended up with The Flood.The Flood should have always been ambiguous.
>>576737165>You had to be thereI was lmaoWhat a clusterfuck. If anyone thinks the defense that Campaign Redeemed got was weird, well, it's been happening since 4. Exact talking points and all.
>>576737723>well, it's been happening since 4. Exact talking points and all.What was it like during the Halo 4 and Halo 5 years?
>>576737595
Today, I will remind them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN_tD5y6k6s
>>576738060>sigmund & cucks defended this
Things will get better.
>>576738215>Things will get better.Proof?
>>576738132Not a SINGLE person in /hg/ defended the REQs. They were the biggest meme in the era besides AchillesThe fucking pizza moment in one of the trailers for example
>>576738321>Not a SINGLE person in /hg/ defended the REQs.Sadly not true
>>576738321Sigmund and Zach STILL defend them.
>>576738385post proof
>>576738481fair enoughIt will take some time but I'll get it
>>576738294
>>576738471Sigmund is basically Dews Bottom so it makes sense
>>576738646
What was MCC like on release?
>>576739289>What was MCC like on release?Fucked.Matchmaking barely worked. Co-op was buggy. Ran like a pig in general. Achievements wouldn't trigger. Wasn't on PC.
>>576739364>Wasn't on PC.You now remember that they only ported it to Steam to rebuild trust with the community after Halo 5
>>576739459And fucked the port up, losing trust in the process. 343, everyone.
>>576739289Menus were better than current MCC but everything was 100x more broken.
>>576739459>>576739551>You now remember that they only ported it to Steam to rebuild trust with the community after Halo 5Brian Jarrard said thisRemember him? The Community Guy of Bungie.net?
>>576737595>Weapon balancing too horrible to comprehend, all was heavily refined for competitive MP play (They thought MLG was going to carry them), campaign afflicted the most. Battery and ammo runs out too fast. AI not balanced for that, health, shield and accuracy alongside movement was moved all the way up. Second worse combat behind Halo 2's Legendary.>Art style completely changed to look more like 2010s edgy Hollywood science flick with excessive detail everywhere and too ugly inhuman enemies, which didn't work because everyone saw them act normal in previous games, the sexy chicks were okay though.>Story was a clusterfuck, everyone was expecting a warm welcome after saving the galaxy in Halo 3, instead they get bonked, thrown from orbit, shot, called manlets (this single line ruined the reputation of the Spartan-IVs forever btw, i will die on this hill) and told that they are an old relic for a time long gone (it's been 4 years you old fart), ai gf is fully schizo because fuck you said Frank O' Connor they need to write her off the story to make Chief more """human""", Covenant returns and they are dumber than the islamic jihadists they are based off this time for real because war on terror influence was making every game be set up in meditarrean or desert settings and based off the terrorists there.>Villain is "2 strong 4 you" because he's The Ancient AyyLmao, he forces you to play through the clusterfuck of a campaign, says pure incomprehensible bullshit and when you get to face him, the studio just uses a QTE to get him off the story, mind you, Halo 2 lets you fight, a guy in a jetpack squidcroc, a floating worm geriatric and a hammer monkey, 3 had hammer monkeys everywhere, Halo 4 cannot even let you fight a normal humanoid looking guy because "The Story".>Multiplayer locks weapons and powerups behind killstreaks, btb gone, all was added back after such immense backslash they had to capitulate or else see the game truly die in record time.Sad.
>>576739874What about the level and encounter design?
Final Legendary MCC Marathon Death Tally:>Reach: 245>CE: 347>2: 802>ODST: 104>3: 230>4: 153
>>576739874>meditarreanRetarded ESL.
>>576740208If you want to play Halo at its hardest setting, you have to play Legendary with Tough Luck, Thunderstorm and Mythic. Good luck, Spartan.
>>576740208>being this shit at the gamesMaybe try bejeweled instead.
>>576737032Correct. I will say that on a technical level I am shocked they were able to put together what they did. It was a full game that ran fine. Same for Halo 5. They did a lot in a very narrow window with pretty foreign tech. The games were bad, we all acknowledge that but they were able to accomplish a lot more with the Bungie engine under Halo 4 and 5 than with Infinite
Marcus Lehto has spoken >Standing up Halo in UE took real effort, so that was a worthwhile effort.>I like many of the liberties taken and additions with the cinematics, but a few are absolutely cringe, so I hear you>I disagree with Sprint (I know it's a hot issue) It does help in many sections of the game. But do agree with the waypoints over enemies - even cloaked Elites! Don't spoon feed me!>I think the hints are too heavy handed -pandering to a new era of players with 0% attention span.>Heh! The original lighting was fucking awful. So bad, we even added a lighting parameter to characters called "chocolate mountain" so they could be seen in the darker areas. Literally a mountain of shit.>With CE, we had multiple artists trying to figure out what Forerunner looked like - so that's why you had such a variety in the original. They "fixed" it in the remake, so it's more cohesive, but lost some important details.>It feels great, I’m also really impressed with the Covenant weapons - much more brutal with a solid punch.>The original Library was a shit show of production. We were way late and rushing to get the game done, so had to live with the whacky and very confusing layout the env artist built.
nothing ends but sometimes the end is better than nothing
>>576740208Nice job, but that's a lot of deaths.
>>576740604I'd say typical it's the expected Lehto politeness but thinking about it he actually held back less than usual. It's a bit like when he was commenting on 5.
>>576740604>The original lighting was fucking awful. So bad, we even added a lighting parameter to characters called "chocolate mountain" so they could be seen in the darker areas. Literally a mountain of shit.Can Halo modders qrd this?
>>576740761I am very bad at vehicle segments. Very bad.
>>576740208Nice. I still need to beat fuckass Coastal Highway on Legendary....oh and Halo 4 i guess....
>>576739289>What was MCC like on release?
>>576740208congratsAnd the respective deaths check out
>>576740042Not good.>Needler can supercombine in half a clip, enemies rapid fire it, extremely strong tracking.>All loadout weapons that are not precision weapons are practically useless against the AI in heroic and above.>Prometheans have melee attacks that are almost unavoidable. Knights are too broken in higher difficulties>Knights can teleport at any moment, they are invulnerable to damage in this state, it takes around 3 seconds, Knights begin regenerating shield at 4-7 seconds, you have two to four seconds to find and shoot it to avoid it regainin all of its shield back in 0.5 seconds. Knights will hide behind cover when teleporting most of the time.>Knights can do a fast teleport melee that instakills if you don't move away from your position with only 1 second of warning.>They are all the same color and it is hard to know what weapon they have from afar or in groups, 3 of those weapons are instakill capable, 2 at long range, one at short range. They tend to attack in groups so your only option is the Light Rifle, which is really bad for draining their shields, that they can regenerate with one teleport, and the ammo for the Light Rifle can get scarce really fast due to a large amount of Knights.>Watchers move very fast when hurt and can regen their health if you don't kill them, so they waste your ammo easily>Sniper crawlers are hard to spot, they can appear in large groups or blend easily in groups of lesser Crawlers, killing you in one shot and sending you back to the beginning of the fight.>The entirety of the last fight is these guys x10.>Vehicle sections are pretty much non-existent or horribly designed in 4, nothing comparable to Two Betrayals or Quarantine Zone.
>>576739289halo 3 was more buggy than gearbox had at once. its impressive that happened
>>5767416703 still crashes on Floodgate often lol
Halo 5 is better than any game in the original trilogy and CE is my favourite halo. Not best, but favourite.
Floodgate works on my machine.
>>576742482>Halo 5 is better than any game in the original trilogy and CE is my favourite halo. Not best, but favourite.What do you like about Halo 5?
Halo 5 has objectively the best gameplay in the franchise.
>>576742791Best Multiplayer Since Halo 2
>>576736569>make a big deal about how hard it was to use the engine without documentation>fire everyone who learned the engine as soon as they are comfortable with it and abandon it entirely>make a new engine>fire everyone who worked on it and abandon it immediately>pick up ue5breh
>>576713718>>576714629the lack of ODSTs in modern halo is very sad, because that game is probably my favourite halo title. the Rookie annoys me a little bit for narrative reasons, but generally ODST is, i think, one of the best games in the genre.my frustration with 343 writing is that, even when they have cool things like the Prometheans, they don't serve a purpose other than in the moment coolness. bungie's games had this too, but it was for minor things, and almost always they were out-of-cutscene things, like on 343 Guilty Spark, the bodies, and such. that stuff is gone now.
>>576743807>he lack of ODSTs in modern halo is very sadWhat's the point of ODSTs when all human elite soldiers can become Spartan-IV?
>>576739162the lines are too sharp and filmyelites had more of a mineral depth to their armor
>>576745007the cool helmets
Halo General: THE POST-MORTEM
>>576746148AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>576746148I remember when I thought 4chan(nel) going down was the end lol
>>576746121Spartan-IVs can wear ODST helmets though.
>>576745007well, that's the issue, right? why do we need Spartan IVs, lore wise, when ODSTs were getting things done? IVs exist purely for the sake of "now YOU can be a spartan too!" since all of the IIs and most of the IIIs were killed off-screen before 343 got involved, and i think MS and 343 were afraid of doing more crimes against humanity to create the player character for their self insert storyline in Spartan Ops(horrible, awful mode. i wish i could shoot Miller with a fuel rod. the only redeemable part of Palmer is that she seems to hate Miller as much as i do. not even being pretty will save you, sorry girl).
IVs are just ODSTs with shriveled balls from roiding out.
4s are just ODSTs with sprint
Didn't read that AI slop.
>>576746121
>>576731151Disagree
>>576748064Fuckin saved
Super-soldiers can shoot while moving fast! Gun down, speed up is lame! Lame, lame laaaame!!! Wishy-washy! Trend-chasing! Slop! If we're gonna have Sprint give us the REAL version of Sprint (as featured in 343 media)!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKfCB_pBY8w
>>576748064This was posted in Plasmaposting like 5 minutes before your post
>>576749330Ok...and that is?
me reading this thread
>>576749404Halo shitposting group on facebook
soon halo will be considered a sunken treasure
Post Brutes
>>576747432Read that AI slop. I'm impressed.
I used sprint like 3 times in 4 because I kept forget it existed.
nothing ends... but a nap sounds nice
>>576740604>loving this slopNo wonder he is only an art dev. Jaime would slap him into the ground.
Accepting that devs back in the day would've used UE5 and AI to make games without a second thought is part of growing up.
>>576742482Only spics cum over themselves for this TitanFall wanna be game.
We are all spics here, thankfully.
NO ONE CAN BE LAIED OFF UNTILL MY SERMON IS COMPLETE
am i fucking crazy can you not shoot off brutes' helmets in these bonus missions? they just tank headshot after headshot
>>576756123Nope. Giant bullet sponges with no reactive armor. Needle rifle fucks them up, everything else sucks ass against them.
>>576756995BPR gets them too in my experience (heroic)
>no game modifiers for the marines are specific enemieslame
How are you guys liking co-op?How do you find it compares to Infinite Co-op?I do have to say, they have gotten better at the art style than the 4/5 days.
>mods add split screen co-op to the pc version of the remake because it was already mostly made and just disabled for the master racekill xbox
Is we playing Halo?
>>576759603Who is you?
Halo is being played.
Halo will NOT be played.
Is this the halo thread?
>>576766907Would be hotter if her tits were bigger.
>>576767227YWBAW
>>576767352Yeah, I'm a dude.
Come Yeeze. Let's get you prepared for game night.
>>576767419For now.
>>576767424I thought yeeze was a boy?
>>576755293oh you'll be laid
>>576769030I'm trans
game night isn't going well
It's all the fault of Red's baby.We have to slay the Cursed Child before it is born.
We're playing haloYou niggas
>>576773446don't say shit like that, faggot
stellar AI. luv it when elites stop and ponder
>>576774040Moralfagging? I'm my general?
>>576774095strange that you don't have this response when people call marty a schizo
>>576774219One is a jest. The other is the God honest truth.
yeeze asks for game night and then doesnt join what a dickhead
Rude
red should kick him
>>576741015It's pretty straight forward.Also Bungie named a lot of things shit related. .ass, chocolate_mountain, poops (that's what instanced geometry is called, you know, rocks and things like that).
crushing my pingas in a hydraulic press
Women with balls is halo
>>576778420based
Halo is being played
>>576781373hot
She's so good at Halo!
I'm not taking Team Snipers off, I'm Team Snipers O'Toole
Halo 2 is the worst game in the franchise by far.
>>576782172
>>576782669TRVKE
nobody plays halo 2
nobodies play infinity
nobody rapes ilsa zane
>>576783840epig
I'm really bad at halo 2 fellas
nobody has blinded me, brothers
>>576784821Stop sucking, Dog.
>>576783840i had to save my princess there at the end
>>576784821halo 2 is hard game
>>576784869My bad I'm actually goated, turns out I had to spam the br like a retard
I will show you hard....
>>576784995good girl
>>576785002dm it
>>576726841No, because they're aliens with a different skeleton that behave differently. Human skeletons can only do human skeleton things.
>>576729294it's genuinely that dumb
>>576785151disc?
Dog is the best.
only because you dont know about Uhpdawg
Mo RiPZ won.
Dog is Uhpdawg.
thats it im taking you all to play firefight with me now
I'm gay
>>576732937source?
>>576787521I thought you'd be taller.
>>576787946I'm tall...
>>576788687He drives like a woman
good halo tonight bros ggs
>>576789361Good night, Dog.
do you think captain keyes jacked it to cortana at least once since she looks like a naked young halsey
>>576788568
>>576789214I am a woman...
>>576790576We know Dog.
>>576790576nah
How come we lost some games, I thought WE were supposed to be good at the game
>>576790949You're just jealous I have cute tits.
you weren't in vc
>>576791167turns out having mental illness and pretending you're women makes you worse at video games
>>576791206>You're just jealous I have cute tits.
ITT salty chuds
Chuds won.
I really need to get fucked so bad and have my prostate poked. Maybe even cum hands free. Is this normal as a Halo CE enjoyer?
why does one anon have multiple images of brown people typing on standby for every other post
Needs must. If there weren't so many browns, they wouldn't be needed.
>played the remake on launch>got viciously sick a day later>didn't play it again until yesterday>broke my knee last nightAlright I get it.
>>576793172Suck shit cunt
gn halo general! *cums*
The only thing Halo 5 did right was Warzone.Warzone and Invasion would be amazing if merged together and there was full on Covenant vs UNSC battles.
>>576794364>The only thing Halo 5 did right was Warzone.>Warzone and Invasion would be amazing if merged together and there was full on Covenant vs UNSC battles.
wtf is this ai slopis it some third party abusing the system or did the h2a fucko go full retard
>>576679512Based
>>576677421Reach a good shit
>>576798767nah
>hurrrrr invasion doe!why are reachoids like thisI'm no 5tranny but warzone assault unironically did it better by doubling the player count and stripping out the silly side objectives
warzone assault did it better by removing dinos
>>576774058Traumatized by seeing a large green alien entity trample his allies despite their blessed technology
>>576800362>warzone assault did it better by removing dinos
playable grunts will save warzone
>>576801747>playable gruntsForced
Staten wasn't kidding about Halo 2 being 15 levels long>Joseph Staten: This is the copy of the script, the cinematic script for Halo. This document needs to talk to programmers and artists and animators and everybody. This is 160 pages worth of cinematics. That's kind of crazy if you just think about it on its own, but when you look at a game which is 15 levels long, with a couple of protagonists and a fairly complex story arc—when you need to drive the player's experience for 20 hours of gameplay—say, 120 minutes of cinematics doesn't really seem that out of proportion. But just to look at it prima facie, it's pretty daunting. You think, "My God, you're making a feature film.">Marcus Lehto: We start with the story first of all. We get a good background to the entire game, just a foundation for things, and then we start building levels off of that. This particular level that I'm looking at right now is called the Sentinel Headquarters. The Sentinel is this hovering character. They don't need a floor; they can fly up through the ceilings, they can fly through portals that are 20 feet up. But you as the character will have the challenge of traversing this interesting terrain inside the structure, up and across beam-work and through these little portals throughout the space. So it's going to be really interesting for the player to explore.>Joseph Staten: We had a vision in our mind about what Halo 2 would look like, and that vision is really easy to see in the Halo 2 announcement trailer. Stencil shadows on everything, real-time reflections in the Master Chief's visor—this very crisp, well-wrought image. And we thought, "Well, that's what we're going to show for E3." When we got to the actual implementation of some of the choices we had made, we realized that it's impossible. And we went around and around on that and other questions for... perhaps too long.
>>576801802Go back.
>>576787898Stumbled upon a video of Fireteam Raven cutscenes. Bit of an oddball but in a vacuum though a lot of its scenes are like cool Halo fan art.
>>576801802Great memories from the official H2 making-of video
>>576801747E N T E R
>>576805741Forced
Once again, it is our job to finish what the flyboys started. We are leaving this ship's platoon, and engaging the Covenant on solid ground.
>>576805741do you guys think that's a badge/emblem, or a port on their chest?
>>576806082I only ever thought about it as an emblem the few times I saw it but I like the possibility you propose. I bet there are notes on it somewhere even if ultimately plans changed for its purpose by release.
Firefight is not Halo.
But enough about (You)
>>576808012It can look a bit SMG-ish in some configurations, sure.
>>576810539>jeetslop redeemedFuck off and die.
>>576810539>pingas evolvedfuck on and cum
>>576812204Go back.
seethe well
>>576812204No cumming allowed, only edging
>>576813263Y-yes sir! >w<
sooooooooo why did gears get saved but we didn't?
cuz browns buy games
>>576813835>savedSi hermano.
We're not worthy of survival.
Halo lost it's audience to CoD and the franchise could never cope with that so it shat itself to death trying to reclaim it.Outside of NA no one gave a shit about the Gears of War series after 2, and that was only because of Horde mode. The PVP is turbo cancer that is played nothing like you would expect it would.>when your third person cover based shooter pvp is abusing the magnetizing to cover that happens when you press the enter cover button, to bounce between multiple walls and oneshotting eachother with the gnasher
le heckin frutiger aero blue y2k olderbrothercore metalheart
>>576813835>why did gears get saved but we didn't?Why should we get saved? Why do we deserve salvation?
>>576815051the only arena shooter that looks better than it plays
>>576813835The best is yet to come
>>576815352to be fair it plays better than the majority including cs
but why could COD reinvent itself so many times but Halo is still stuck in the decade-old design arguments? could 343 have saved halo by going the anthology route so they could switch up the gameplay more easily?
>we
>>576815495cs is not an arena shooter unc and 1.6 still beats most fps games
>>576815554>unc
Rise and shine nigga
>>576814916AAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
steamy homosex with halo anons...
REMEMBER WHAT THEY TOOK FROM YOU
>>576816060what if i use pc game pass...
>>576816060disc?
>>576816152i gotta be honest, everything i've seen from pre-release halo 2 makes it seem like a bloated mess that thinks it's grander than it actually is, i'm glad we get the truncated version with excellent writing and an iconic cliffhanger ending
>>576816313>excellent writingBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>>576816365for an old action game, yeah, it's excellent
Halo 2 introduces a supervillain talking magic plant.
>>576816247i'm shy..>>576816179>_< the offer still stands...
>>576816430>for an old action game, yeah, it's excellentEven by the sub-moho standards of shooters, it's far from "excellent".>>576816503>Halo 2 introduces a supervillain talking magic plant.And a species of lowly worm caliphs.And a silverback with a giant mochi mallet.
>>576816503made from space dust
>>576815505Probably some weird mandate from higher-ups that no one has a high enough speech level to overturn. One of Halo's fundamentals was being able to shoot while moving at max speed in any direction. If a game really must have a sped up state just give that state some trade-offs when it comes to accuracy. This also satisfies the "they're super-soldiers" reasoning. Some say Infinite's Sprint may as well not exist, so if we go with that thinking then I guess we just need a launch that's at least as packed with modes as Reach or even 4 were at launch. Have the tried, true and beloved that also doubles as a safety net in case any big new idea is more trouble than it's worth. Spartan Ops, Warzone, open world. All massive new undertakings that weren't needed. All stuff that could've come after launch instead of shoving ol' faithfuls out of the way for launch day. They just keep getting the order backwards.
>>576816313>a bloated mess that thinks it's grander than it actually isBut enough about final Halo 2.
343 deserves its fatebungie deserves its fatemarathon deserves its fatehalo deserves its fate
>>576815505You gotta remember, Halo was the dudebro normie shooter until that audience went over to Call of Duty in the late 2000's. Nothing ever did that to Call of Duty, so it stayed big and became the "buy the yearly game" to them. Somewhat too big to fail too.
>>576816313It was a solid series of events for dismantling not just the armies of the Covenant but the doctrine that tied it all together. Even then what we see is just the unfinished version that would've been improved greatly if they'd had the time. We got something great and we could've had something even better. Same goes for the story arc after the Ark that some employees have mentioned the existence of. With the way this timeline is going we may even get both, more or less. If history rhymes then Halo 2's remake will be a substantial improvement over CE's, much like H2A was over CEA. Great thing is there's no need to bet a pre-order on this outcome.
>>576817165my fate is to get double teamed and plapped by two thick...fuel rods ^w^
>>576817269the live service craze totally dethroned CoD, some things like Fortnite and Valorant earn more in a month than a single CoD entry does in its entire shelf life
>>576817351>much like H2A was over CEAH2A was genuine fucking garbage and so were Blur's cutscenes with desynced audio and the backward flying ship, stop the slop
>>576817497I know better than to get my hopes up for them to tap into its full potential is all. No miracles for H2R, merely improvements. At this point any right moves made feel like they only happen because they need to keep above a certain threshold, rather than passion for the IP in question. Wasn't long ago that it looked like Halo would simply be shelved rather than even doing the bare minimum, as if they got tired of doing even that.
>>576816313>i'm glad we get the truncated version with excellent writing and an iconic cliffhanger ending
imagine an RE2-tier remake of 1,2,3 told as one continuous narrative (in 3 acts) that expands on the politics of the universe and gives arbiter more prominence in the h3 sections
I mean infinite did something to get people back into halo at the beginning before they fumbled the bag like always>>576817397>my fate is to get double teamed and plapped by two thick...fuel rods ^w^lucky fag
>>576818070> that expands on the politics of the universe
>>576818312you want them to get into the forerunners are human lore? that's lame imo, that shit should only be in the background with a lot of contradictory in-universe (mis)information
>RE2-tier remake
>>576818503would've gone with RE1-tier but i think only a bolder re-imagining can save this franchise atp
good halo last night
>>576817497the backwards ship was in the OG too you poser
>>576818070The RE remakes cut a lot of content I liked. No
>>576816313kek>>576817130This. I'm glad they dialed that stuff back down in 3. 2 felt like they were force-feeding you too much lore and details every level. They rushed the world-building too much and it actually made it feel smaller and artificial. Sometimes literally, where the flat, low-res 2D skybox paintings didn't help, made the game feel too much like a movie set. Halo 1 felt so much bigger, and they weren't teleporting you around to every corner of the universe every couple missions. I hate how the Covenant lost all its mystery/mystique. They weren't that alien anymore, just another Star Wars/Star Trek-ish race that act like humans. It was better when only the grunts could speak clearly.
>>576819021well unlike the OG RE trilogy, MCC is widely available so you can go back and play the bits you like, cohesion is more important than your quirky chungus set pieces
>>576819021this bothers me deeply its like these people have never played the original games or something
"people" is a strong word
>>576819213>, cohesion is more important than your quirky chungus set piecesBut enough about Halo 2's Arbiter levels.
>discussion as though there's a futureHalo will be shelved as abruptly as 4chan went down that day and this time... none of you will be left behind
>>576819332AAAAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>576819332WWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
They should have never introduced the Gravemind in 2. He should have stayed in the background and hidden until the end of 3. They should never have introduced the prophets. They should have stayed in the background and hidden but you could hear their alien non-English voices in the holograms/broadcastings. In fact, they really shouldn't have let you play as the Covenant. We should have just gotten more Halo 1, but set on Earth. And then in 3 we head to the Ark. They still could have worked Arbiter into the story so that he and the Elites joined you in 3.
>>576819338ehhhh idrc, i stopped playing fps games for a while now
>>576819836>We should have just gotten more Halo 1, but set on Earthsounds like fucking garbage brother, the contrast between the militaristic earth levels and the religious context of arbiter's levels is what makes 2 memorable, the liminal y2k thing in CE doesn't work when it's earth
The only way to save Halo is by making a dating sim and a hentai
Oh there's a future alright and it's just getting started!
Ive got a bad feeling about this...
this is our GOW Reloaded, our own E-Day is coming soon, stay strong
Boy, you always have a bad feeling about something.
I jizzed my pants when the grunts said that in 2
>>576820176this
>>576819338Not so fast.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkiZGnzI600
why are there no halo clones? people make doom clones, COD clones, CS clones and even titanfall clones but never pay attention to this franchise
>>576820229
>>576820336It's called Splitgate
>>576820491what is that?
>>576820549IDK ask Grok
in the original game on the second level the groups of marines you find all went to a defensible location during the waves of covenant attacks. in the remake they all instead run around like spastics, often times not even sticking together, making the game of "save the marines" unreasonable difficult
>>576820336I've seen a very recent reveal about a Halo-inspired game, but what people who care about Halo want is good Halo that looks and sounds like Halo. Doing this right in one's free time takes a lot of work and most of those projects are either chugging along or don't have long left until they fizzle out. For anything intended to be monetized it feels a bit soulless to make a Halo mimic because you'd rather be using the IP itself without reserve.
>>576820549It's halo but you have a portal gun strapped to your wrist
>>576818997may we see it?
>>576819969>mc is a femboy armor tech who services a Spartan-III futa team
>>576820549Halo + Portal free to play game, that of course gamers abandoned because it was complete at launch and didn't dripfeed you content. Sure it had skins to buy but everything else was available from the get-go
>>576820890I'm talking about the original Splitgate here btw, the sequel was live service trash
>>576820336thats the secret captain everything is a halo clone now
>>576819957Whenever I replay Halo 2 missions, I usually skip Arby's levels (I might play the first bit up until you have to grab the Banshee and then quit/skip) and the parts where Chief gets teleported by the gravemind. The Earth missions were the best part about 2. The last 2 Arby missions are pretty good though, I don't mind playing those. But most of the game feels like filler and just makes you want to rush through without fighting so you can beat it and get to the good parts. Delta Halo is kind of okay. It's surprisingly linear/claustrophobic for an outdoor section though. I was expecting more open spaces for the vehicle sections, not just being funneled through literal hallways (in some cases). I'm still annoyed that it took us away from Earth. And I didn't care much for High Charity. They managed to make an entire city planet feel like an empty mall. That's plenty liminal. The most interesting part of that entire area was the skybox, and we never even went down there to where the Covenant actually lived. Imagine the earth missions but now in Covenant territory with all their cool architecture and alien civilians running around on the streets. We played the worst, most boring part of that environment. It was a waste.
>>576821003Didn't they kill Splitgate just as it was getting attention so they could advertise Splitgate 2?
This blu-ray rip of Halo Legends is so good quality-wise, it feels great finally having it in the best quality possible (and with the original Japanese voice-over)
>>576821537>The Earth missions were the best part about 2.Then go play Call of Duty and shut the fuck up
>>576821583Servers got shutdown yeah
CE > (massive gap) > 3 > 2 > Reach > ODST3 > 2 = CE > Reach
>>576821712I already am
>>576821815What did she mean by this?
>>576821760our cheaply made game went viral and finally turned a profit, let's stop updating it and eventually turn the servers off so we can focus on making a sequel that plays nothing like the original game!!!!!!
3 > Reach > 2 > Marathon 2: Durandal >>>>>>> Marathon Infinity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CE > Marathon
>noble hierarchs>surely you understand that once the newfags attacked--
nah
>>576821712Nah. I'll just play Halo CE or 3 while I wait for Ruby to fix Halo 2. He'll make the Arby/Covenant sections fun.
>>576822134>I wait for Ruby to fix Halo 2
>>576822134THISSSSSSSSSSSSS
Halo: Campaign Evolved: THE POST-MORTEM
Is we playing the new Quake expansion?
She's green for an amazing reason!
Fallout New Vegas 2 whenAnd where is my Halo spinoff of this (but with Halo's combat)
/hg/… it’s finished
It’s finished
>>576822425>Is weRetarded ESL.
I told you: it's enough.
>>576819212you can't have mystique forever, and they were always going to act somewhat like humans because humans wrote them
It's not over. Not yet.
>>576822134>yt ppl be like
>>576819338idk why someone hasnt made a spiritual successor that picks up from the end of halo 3. that's a perfectly good starting point: you are john space marine, you have just woken up from your nap, and you have a tiny tomboy princess gf who lives in your head to guide you through the tutorial
>>576823192That’s just halo 1
>>576823192This is as close as we're getting:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhCn3TBS4J8
Is we getting a new thread?
>>576823604This. If we don't get one soon, I can guarantee you'll get one with a Minto OP.Godspeed, /hg/.
This mint?
We're not going to make it! Pull up!
We'll make it.
I jizzed my pants when the Arbiter crashed his banshee like that in 2
>>576823354yeah it's almost like halo 3 ended where CE began and the whole thing is a king under the mountain allegory.you say it like halo 1 is a bad thing.>>576823461looks kinda kino until i saw whatever temu plasma pistol the arbiter is limpwristing.i was more talking about a new IP anyway since halo is kill and even if it isn't, it's never going to return to its roots that make it fun, which a spiritual successor could. you also avoid the whole getting sued for making a fan-made halo game by making it a new IP.you could also just make an unofficial official mod that replaces every asset with their halo equivalents.
>>576823192People have toyed with the concept but they're all fans like you working on things in their free time. I have seen very recent projects about remaking CE's levels, or creating a custom campaign with more effort pop up. We might have reached a new degree of fans deciding to make something of their own since 343 perished and their replacement isn't off to a stellar start. But even in the simplest Halo-friendly engine anything major will take time.It's almost been 20 years since Halo 3 and there's at least one series that more or less didn't get a new game until about 20 years had passed. If anything remarkable gets made we'll enjoy it once the time comes.
>>576824173>there's at least one series that more or less didn't get a new game until about 20 years had passedwhich is?
>>576824146>it's almost likeGo back.
>>576824283Doom for one
>>576824392you forgot the "yeah"get pwned idiot
The thread...
I had a dream where i killed a lion with no violence
how do i make a new thread
one pants leg at a time
>>576824146> you say it like halo 1 is a bad thing.Not at all. It’s full circle. That’s interesting writing.
There is still time to stop the key from turning
>A full circle.KINOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Me. Then you.
>>576825814Circle? Ring? H-halo???????
Do it
>>576826234
When we depart for the Great Journey, your heresy will stay your feet.
When the regulars learn of this, they will take your head.
That kike, I've smelled it before.
This has gone on long enough.
Ma'am, the shitposters are asking for a rally point.
To war
Postmaster, they outnumber us three-to-one!
Well... this is it...
Send me out with a bang...
Were it so easy.
What manga are you niggas reading today? I might re-read Historie.
boku no pico
This heretic, and those who follow him, must be silenced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N6qz-9JbtA
How did the regulars buy your loyalty, anon? With a gamenight, a shitpost? Or was it the promise of... their girl cocks?
boypussy
Quiet. You two whimper like Grunts fresh off the teat.
Chief, this thread's shields aren't rated for autosage!
I'll give you something to whimper about...
We deserve to be forgotten.
I'm not making the next thread
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>>576828662Thanks.
before a new thread is created i just wanna say i love cock so much:3
We know.
real cuties spell it "coq"
if ur a CQBsissy dm me
New thread >>576830482
>>576830707Buy an ad.
