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Alarmingly problematic edition / 2nd Anniversary continues

Previous: >>576093896

>What is Sword of Convallaria?
Sword of Convallaria is part Gacha, part full-length SRPG in the vein of FFT and Tactics Ogre, with very light rogue elements. Originally released in the country of Taiwan, also has a separate CN version, a JP version, and a Global version.

>FAQ
https://rentry.org/socnewbie

>Helpful links and resources
https://rentry.co/oiiitiuo
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X426ozb4RIFXzuWa_npt_jUoUd6Pp8FSv6ilNGNVIIE/edit?tab=t.0

>Current Events
Hunt on the Frozen Plains
Raining Secret Fates!
Saga of Ice and Blood
Snow-Brushed Memories
Remembrance Star Gift
Astral Surfing
A Nostalgic Bond
Voyage Recharted

>Current and Upcoming Banners
Banner: Anna (July 31st)
Fate's Favor (July 24th) - Select Any 2 Characters, Guaranteed one at 90 pulls

>Guilds
Sorceress Hat
Touch Vlder Tail
Apply to a guild, then reply to the OP or recruiter ITT with the last 4 digits of your UID and mention the guild you are applying to.
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Easy difficulty has level 35 enemies for the new hunt event. Even low levels can try.
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>get that one map where the shamans are a billion miles away just spamming their aoes on top of a mountain 4 fucking times in a row
Fucking kill whoever came up with this shit NOW
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>>576745439
Won’t be so bad when I can get the tactical spell to up my part my movement.

Not having that really hits home how slow some units are on big maps.
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>>576745295
you also get some breaker shards (30 w random role spread) from event Seasonal rewards for reaching level 1 which just takes a 2 battles to learn 1 hunting thing from the tree

>>576730363
I looked and it does increase your hunting level counter when it's used to start a hunt
so yes it is worth learning it on your first one
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>>576745979
>some breaker shards
can help for Anna starring up rewards if you didn't get and shard her day 1
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>>576745295
Nergal is alive
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>Put him to work in the Hunt. By himself. He solos one stage. Drained.

Camelowned.
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it's not gay if you drain Xavier ironically
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So what are some of the ways that primal ward breaks?

It genuinely feels like they break at random right now. I'm not using any units that even have wardpiercer.
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>>576748320
They usually have it written in their trait
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>>576748320
have you tried reading?
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>>576748483
Of the few I looked at, none of them said anything other than that they have it.
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>8 potions of endurance just handed out for free
Oh my.
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>>576748320
It kinda feels random to me too even though I understand the effect. Benefit of an old account I can just bring an uncommon Luccian and brute force it.

>>576749472
>it's true
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>finally beat normal
fuck it, not even gonna try hard today
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>>576749472
Always need 'em for the x10 star event.
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>>576745295
Jump scare.
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>>576750267
did CN get a new star tier cause we must all be done with the main nodes by now
sure the extras with high cost will last a while and there's the pdef mdef nodes and it's not like old accounts have something else on which to spam the stamina anyway
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>>576717183
Pretty much every modern damage dealer wants 5*, otherwise they usually have NRG/cooldown/stack generation problems and much lower damage. I think the only exceptions are characters like Selina with really shitty 5* traits, and supports like Ulya are generally okay to stop at 3*.
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>the man no one ever talks about
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>>576752284
he looks retarded
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>>576745295
Absolutely loving this pic, especially Rawiyah.
What's the benefit of playing any Hunt stages higher than Easy?
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>>576752893
event quest rewards
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IDK why people are complaining about the new event, it's easy as fuck for Pooch/AgataGAWDS
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>>576752284
I have him and I think he's...kinda mid. I guess he has the niche of being able to prevent healing. But Heshan's heal reverse is nicer.
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>>576749472
Where? Could really use those for Guard Trials, though I'm certain the last 4 will be too hard for me to clear without a maxed Luccian team.
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>>576752284
I was forced to use him today, it was basically rape
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>>576754326
The event start granted them on the event page for it. There was a button to click and it gives four things, of which one was 8 endurance potions.
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Anna feels a bit underwhelming, what build are you guys running?
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>>576754603
Oh hell yeah, thanks!
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>>576754934
This is mine, she's been great so far and I doubt I'm using the best loadout. I open with her using Armor-Piercing Shot to force ward break on something, but it's often pointless because she one shot kills the target any way.
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Are the weekly "extra" rewards from Luccian Hunts just like VoD where they give the same bonus amount regardless of difficulty? Or do you get more for say, using extra rewards on Normal clears than Easy?
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>>576755154
I didn't get that skill yet, I've been running freezing slash or focused mark with mine
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>>576754934
I've found her to exceeded my expectations so far.
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>>576754934
She's definitely not underwhelming. With this build she oneshots around 5 monsters per turn in the new event mode. Her total damage dealt in the last stage was about 2x that of Shahnaz and 3x my other characters.

Apparently CN players say she's one of the best characters in the Papal States arc as well, so she'll be good for a long time.
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Anyone beat Guard Trial 9 yet? double sword guys with multiple aoes and triple archers are too much for me.
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>>576755895
it looks like it, the non extra part of the Easy mode reward is ten times less than the extra 7000
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>>576756370
>Apparently CN players say she's one of the best characters in the Papal States arc as well, so she'll be good for a long time
Oh that's a surprise and good to hear. I thought that arc is all about piercing dmg? And maybe I'm just not using her/positioning her correctly.
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>>576757036
Nah, Papal and Luccian arcs are both about single target damage and alerts/strikebacks/out of turn damage, so Anna is perfect for them. She's pretty easy to play, you just use both active abilities on one guy to kill him and then position her so she is in the middle or the edge of the rest of the enemies so they walk into her alert range. The only hard part is making use of the active item her charge ability leaves behind.
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>>576757206
That item/instant skill she drops doesn't seem to deal much damage? Is it even worth picking up?
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>>576757425
It's moreso for synergies, Ulya and Ivan will care a lot about picking up items, and equipment like Yserinde's signature can give you NRG for picking them up. Some Luccians also only enter their after dealing damage X amount of times, for example the low-rarity Wildfox who does piercing damage, you can equip her with armguard and walk over Anna's item and that counts as 2 activations for her transformation.
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>>576756706
Asked and answered, looks like shao put up a video earlier today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EiLscaOPtk
I'm always missing a star level or a skill or a piece of gear even if I have all the units for a particular team, but hopefully I can muddle through somehow.
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>>576756706
Most people are ignoring guard trials completely dude
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>>576759767
I don't have the spare stamina for it
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>>576760065
Anybody who does have the spare stamina is wrong about having the spare stamina
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How long does it take to complete the talent tree? A year?
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>>576760065
Daily stam is enough for 10x stars and 2x shards, the 8 pots we just got are enough for the trials.
Though if you're new, it's a different story and you should be stocking up on resources you need.
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>>576761247
No one has completed it yet, they add new additions every year or so. I'm about 85% completed and I min-maxed the shit out of it.
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>>576762563
Oh...
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The sudden realization that I need to
>level up more of my epics and commons
>actually put gear on them
>level up the gear a little too
>have them learn skills
>but learn how they work so I know what skills to choose

This mode is cool as fuck. They should keep adding rewards into it periodically.

I found out that if you lose a stage then your squad is drained but all enemies defeated stay dead and enemies that are hurt will stay hurt. So their deaths mattered.
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>>576765462
Newfriend is discovering Universal Derivation aka the best mode, ya love to see it
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>enemies that are hurt will stay hurt
when there are shields though those do renew, and luccian transformations reset allowing them to heal again
at least that's how it worked when this was called Universal derivation in the 3? past events, the easy modifier that says enemies get 0 shields suggests that might come back later
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>Suikoden has better pixel art than us
It's over...
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>>576769346
Looks about the same to me
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>no 4* Momo with maxed unique ascension
>no Credenza
Guard Trial 12 is breaking my brain, I can't even imagine the cancer in the final four
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Which units have they retroactively ported Wardpiercer abilities to? Just Rico, Afra, Alexei, and Agata?
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>>576770361
Yep, with their unique ascensions
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>>576769346
better as in larger resolution? looks worse to me from both technical and artistic standpoints, postures seem stiff, animations would need to be exceptional
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I keep getting the same maps over and over again
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>>576769346
>better

Uhh, I mean, the tree in the background looks nice, but those character sprites ain't doing it for me.
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Am I missing something or does this mode suck ass? My lvl 60 characters can't even solo these lvl 35 stages like I could in UD. Also fuck this stupid stamina draining system. Let me use my trained units for fucks sake. It's not fun lowmanning.
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How do I deploy the towers I unlocked in the Hunt mode?
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Nevermind, I had to start the stage first. Thought I deployed them during setup
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I love the structure of this Hunt thing and overall I'm satisfied with it.

But I've got criticism:
>battles don't seem to be random, it's the same enemies every time?
>ice mages cast large freeze fields the entire time, from anywhere, and are spread out
>getting knocked back on the ice can mean gliding up to five tiles back
>they give AIDs too for some reason
>the level design heavily encourages having jump characters on almost every map
>the fucking brutebears can't be killed for two turns? Is there a way to prevent this?
>base movement is already slow so ice can mean multiple turns of just moving to get to a target
>those berserkers that attack multiple times also triggering other berserkers that attack multiple times, taking forever
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>>576775421
Nvm, just realized this isnt an event like the other character draining event. If this is permanent content I guess it's fine. Can just wait for meads to refresh.
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Was this the event that almost killed the game in China?
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>>576777030
no it's the babyfied version of it and it turns out it's still too hard for the gacha audience
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>>576777030
Yes
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>>576777030
Apparently Primal Ward used to reduce dmg to 0 in China lmao
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There we go, Guard Trial 12 down thanks to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71bM_D0sbKc
>Shahnaz can mark Yennefer's clone and make it swap places with enemies
That is really, really cool. Combine with Yen's portals and you can pull off some pretty neat shit
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I kinda wanna spend the hero select thing on Rico, I don't have any good defenders....
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My first 5 star after playing for almost 3 months.
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>>576779429
Based choice, well done
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>>576773726
he's just like me
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why didn't you guys tell me they fixed the tower. I haven't been doing it for 6 months
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>>576785946
What was wrong with it?
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>225 days to get 1 sig weapon from Lighthouse
What the actual fuck?
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>>576778835
If so, that would have been too rough. The implementation as it is now is okay. Kind of reminds me of DnD rules of needing a magic weapon or deal half damage against some enemies. Only this time it’s specific faction units.

Feels good when you have what you need. Less so, otherwise.

I prefer fighting the beasts to the Luccian human enemies so far.
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>>576788238
To get a five star version of one. And additional currency comes in a lot from just advancing the lighthouse level.
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>>576788238
It takes me like 3 days
Perhaps tis a skill issue
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>>576788238
Just be patient bro
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>>576788738
It's pretty decent for long time player accounts but this is pretty hard gay for newbies. They won't have the toolbox necessary to bust through Ward altho I guess they can just pull Luccia units.
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>>576792368
>It's pretty decent for long time player accounts but this is pretty hard gay for newbies
Good. They can eventually catch up. Tuning content to suit them makes it boring forever.
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>>576779429
Excellent choice. She's amazing.
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>>576788238
Dantalion would be too OP if you could get his weapon in under a year
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I like that everyone is suddenly coming around to Prince Dantalion
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>>576797387
He got one of the funniest ascensions desu
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How many stages is the Coldwind Hunting Grounds? Do your units get refreshed when you beat it?
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>>576803149
The number on the selection page is jow many stages each difficulty has
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I like watching Mellow videos because he'll pick a topic and regardless of what happens during it he'll just go
>wow look at that! i love thing!
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Just finished the SoD. Very enjoyable desu. Anna was based. BTW does anything change if you choose to "help"?
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>>576805565
>Anna was based
Incorrect.
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>>576805565
>Anna was based
Correct.
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putting some sugar in your cocoa
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>>576811637
I don't know what that means but I'm sure it's disgusting
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>>576811678
It means death!
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>>576769346
Kind of a shame no see no global release for now. Don't have the time to commit to another one of these games but I really enjoyed suikoden 1 and 2 back in the day.
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>>576812515
I'm playing through it right now, it's pretty fantastic. It feels like a real console Suikoden game instead of a gacha - the combat is like Suikoden 1/2 with even more tactical depth, I love it even though I normally dislike "4 dudes in a row" games. Elemental/type resistances really matter, if you bring 6 sword guys against a snail boss who is resistant to swords, he will take 1 damage per hit and fuck you in the ass, so you need to adapt your team for every situation, you cannot brute force fights. There's an overworld map and overworld exploration, and you unlock most SSR/5* characters by playing through the story. There are no EXP-increasing items and you cannot buy high-tier equipment at the start so you can't "cheat" your progression like in other gachas and steamroll everything.

SSR rates are 5%. It seems like there may be some sort of shard farm system but I haven't unlocked it yet. It's definitely the best gacha I've played since Sword of Convallaria, although Neverness to Everness was also pretty good. The English translation is apparently 70% done so I would expect a Global version within a year.
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w-what does it do?
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I'm actually getting low on the experience currency.
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>>576820981
Me with money. Stupid talents take 10 gorillion coins eventually.
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>>576823339
I'm down to like 3mil
I miss back when VoD existed
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>>576805131
Both he and Hawky have pleasant accents. No homo.
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>>576826378
Hawky needs a script. His videos are just rambling.
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>>576826464
I’m fine with that. Both of them are off the cuff style guides or opinions usually. Both are more meta centered about what to use and roll on.

But they are informative for near term future content like the next character or event.
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Assume it's a youtube algorithm thing for longer videos but both ramble on and on where to don't really watch ether just jump to the one bit of info I need.
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>>576826464
Hawky needs to die. FUCK OFF Hawky shills here
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>>576829042
Don’t ever insult Our Guy.
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>>576829042
Based
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>>576828693
I miss Garbelius. His guides were well written and didn't waste your time. Sad to see he quit when I came back for anniversary. I tried checking the current guys like hawky and they make me want to blow my brains out.
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>>576831147
What the fuck do you even need guides for?
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>>576831283
Castalias ain't cheap. Pretty much the only reason. Wish they gave them out more frequently so I could freely experiment.
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>>576831441
So just read what the skills are before choosing one? They tell you what they do, why do you need a third party to read it out to you?
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>>576831779
>just read
Nyo
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Am I bricked if I spend an Extra Reward on Easy difficulty?
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>>576831923
Then enjoy choking down what hawky gives you, retard
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>>576831441
some people have been posting comparative analyses on reddit with arguments for picks but not sure if they cover ever char
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>>576832236
We love Hawky here newfag.
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>>576832118
no extra reward has typically given you the same thing at any difficulty in these events
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>>576832374
ironic spam is still spam
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>>576832479
Nice, thank you.
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I would genuinely like to know what the appeal of an SRPG is for someone who doesn't want to think for themself about how to play
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>>576818547
Press the Learn button and find out. Even if it ends up not being good, that's hunt exp brother, and not everyone can even unlock that mode.
Reminder that hunt level also gives a ton of flat stats, so if anyone's struggling, just do Easy and eventually you'll be so inflated in this mode that Normal will become as easy as Easy, then Hard will, etc
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>>576832870
I play SoC to hear my Agata "awooo" and slash all the enemies to death on Auto Play.
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>>576833285
SP Agata (Queen of Auto) soon
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>>576832374
we hate Hawky and Lumi here newfag
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>>576832870
I'm not any of the anons posting in the conversation so far today, but here's my take.
Even though SRPGs are my 2nd fave genre of game, I'm stupid and often can't clear the highest difficulty stuff without following a vid. I enjoy them for the story, characters, maps and movin' my lil guys around and hitting things brings a certain satisfaction that standard JRPGs don't. When I come up with a strategy and it works, it does give me a lil dopamine hit so long as it wasn't after hours of repeated failures draining me, but I'm sure even my best strategy would seem like baby things to people who are actually smart enough to be skilled at these sort of games.

The strange thing is, this only applies to gacha SRPGs. For non-gacha ones, I've never had to look up a guide. The only non-gacha ones I remember giving me a really hard time were Thracia 776 and some obscure DS game, something about Laevateinn in the title iirc.
Meanwhile, DQ Tact (RIP global) was one of the hardest games I've ever played when it came to the higher difficulty content, and is the only gacha that made me quit from the sheer frustration of trying to clear stages week after week (didn't help that the gacha itself was mega ass).
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>>576833893
SRPGs would be as dead as RTS if only "le epic gamers" played them anyway. Pretty excited for Fortune's Weave next month.
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>>576832870
I only want advice and know-how, not a guide. Mechanics can be obscure and I like to know what I’m rolling on.
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>>576833893
Try Tactics Ogre Reborn if you haven't. It's funny how hard some of the older SRPGs were. Really fun game though.
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>>576835286
It's next on my list after I finish the Goblin Slayer one, which is pretty solid so far on the hardest difficulty. One of the things I saw people complain about in reviews the most was how hard/unforgiving it is but I've been having fun with it and if a dummy like me can clear, it can't be that bad.
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Should you pull for Rogneda: 47 minutes and 13 seconds

Conclusion: maybe
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Wow, Antigone's whole kit is weaponized atheism.
She may have a point, all of the luxite blessings of the Papal States are applications of advanced luxite technology, not divine magic from some higher power.
Which brings up something that's been bugging me. Everything that seems magical in SoC has been revealed to be a result of luxite...except for Luccian transformations. That seems like actual magic, along with the stuff Ivan does.
Which makes me wonder if it's gonna be revealed at some point to be a result of luxite mutations in the various Luccian bloodlines, which could also explain how it's inconsistent who can use their totem and who can't, and how well they can if they can use it. Kind of like how it goes in The DioField Chronicle if anyone here's played that real-time SRPG. It's very similar to SoC in that it takes place mainly in a backwater region surrounded by superpowers that's discovered a "magical" crystal resource deep underground that can be used to make magical/advanced technology and it starts a war with all the neighbours wanting a piece of the pie. An early game lorebook explains the presence of monsters and those born with the power to use magic are all a result of exposure and mutation to the special energy crystals.
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Who does Healing Received debuff? Doing the Proof stages and I completely forgot who even has this as a specialty.
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>>576839481
Does it require that specific debuff? Because Heshan's whole thing is making enemies that heal kill themselves with healing, so if it's to deal with healing foes, he's your guy. Camelot, Auguste and Stormbreaker also get axe skills that apply null healing in an aoe.
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>>576839481
https://soshage.com/soc/en/skillkeyword/1095
https://soshage.com/soc/en/skillkeyword/244
https://soshage.com/soc/en/skillkeyword/29
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It's about time.
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>>576840021
I've owned Camelot since he released and had no idea he could stop healing lol
>>576840091
Hmmm, I'm thinking it's time to whip out the CHADtalion
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...Where's the fucking content?
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>>576842092
post your Hard mode clear
you won't
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Reminder that due to Hunting Level bonus stats DoTs scale harder than normal.
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>>576842256
Kinda doesn't matter since most of the Wardbois are immune to dots until broken.
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>>576842181
I just tried Hard mode and lost at the second stage because I couldn't deal enough damage to finish in 15 rounds. Only Selina was still alive.

Not sure what hunting level to even start that shit at.
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>>576842657
Works fine on all the human dudes Yser is easily soloing stages.
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The stage with 3 wolf kings summoning wolves constantly from the very back of the map as I climb a cliff face filled with wolves in each square is pretty damn tedious. Glad I got Lutfi so I can unlock that aoe damage upgrade for the watchtower.
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>>576842181
are Normal and Hard modes also 6 battles or does it get longer
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>>576844858
That little claw icon tells you how many battles.
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I know there is another round of stock coming in the Hunt shop but feels like it will take maybe two weeks to burn through all of that.

No infinity gold at poor rates of conversion?
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To Rogneda or not Rogneda?

That is the question.
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remember when we all pretended to like Gloria?
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>>576849772
She's sexy and amazing, but realistically you will never have time to shard her with the Anna+Alexei+Ulya+Ivan+Arman onslaught. Rog is just a 1* trophy wife.
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>>576852378
for those who can forcefeed Anna to 5 on the last day there's up to 4 weeks = time to 3* thighsneda
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anyone go for ascension skills on generics?
I think the only one I got to rk13 is stinger
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>>576849772
We're all Rogging. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.
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>>576853881
Imagine how many pairs of pants she must go through.
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>>576845164
I don't think I can see that having already started normal

anyway here's a tip if someone has trouble with frost shamans block their advance with frost tiles, if you have faster characters than them start battle skipping their turn of moving to the side instead of moving forward so the casters won't target the area in front of your other characters that haven't moved yet
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Im so upset that I whiffed on the Clara banner...
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>>576852378
So we're just not sharding Heshan or Shnoz?
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>>576855654
I'm sharding both. Shnoz is already 4 stars, and Anna will hit 3 stars today.
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>>576854332
Easy is 6 stages, Normal is 9.
Gonna do a Normal run today to see how much hunt tech tree currency it gives, I know Easy gives 800 per run.
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I have 71150 Memory crystals and I'm tempted to get the Legendary Character Selector for Agata. Would anyone talk me out of this decision?
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>>576855654
Your Heshan should be finished by the time her banner comes out...
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>>576857384
>Normal is 9
that's not too bad
at 40 characters at most, old players don't even have to field fillers yet

>>576858747
"she might spook you"
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>>576749472
Hard sex with Acambe
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>>576858747
Do what makes playing the game a pleasure to do. If your heart wants Agata, who is a fine piece of ass, I say go get her.
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>>576858747
>Would anyone talk me out of this decision?
I can't. I love Agata too much.
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>>576750956
>it's not like old accounts have something else on which to spam the stamina anyway
Engravings?
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I miss the warm sands of elaman...
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>>576865281
One day we will return. When Ivan invades Elaman.
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>>576865281
I never wanna go back, I'm finally home. I hate deserts and love snowy mountains, boreal forests, and tundra.
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>>576865281
Same.
I miss the warm sands...
The cool oasis...
The palm trees swaying in the wind...
The Hashalaram Palace...
The bustling bazaar...
Homa and her parrots...
Acambe's exquisite sexy body...
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Thinking about who makes Elysium coins for dead people
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>>576865281
nah bro we the north.
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Why can't I see how many stages I have to play in this game mode after I click it.
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>2.5 months of skip banners until Finn
yawn...
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I wonder if Diona's name is at all related to the association between Antigone and the festival of Dionysus
It feels like something the devs shouldn't know somehow but it would be a very big coincidence
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>>576849772
This is AI isn't it
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>>576873731
projected collab before tarot Beryl
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>>576873731
Rogneda
>roll
SP Alexei
>roll
Ulya
>skip
Ivan
>roll
Finn
>skip
Sena
>Idk yet
SP Agata
>roll
Arman
>skip
Perlevit
>skip
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>>576875871
Looks about right, alexei might be a skip too
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>>576864586
You don't spam stamina on that, you ignore it for a while until you have at least like 10 of one or you remember you have chests in your inventory and then you flush your money away
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>>576869981
>nobody tells Acambe about the coins Elysium made just for his comfort
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>>576837805
>Which makes me wonder if it's gonna be revealed at some point to be a result of luxite mutations in the various Luccian bloodlines
Probably, Frostbugs are already confirmed to be mutated which is why they can't be eaten kinda like purupurus and stuff. Something had to cause the mutation and it would make sense for the Frostheart to turn out to be a big pure chunk of luxite that spawned a whole creation myth with the Goddess of Luccia. Luccia's luxite deposits are mostly just blocked by thick ice and monsters.
Berserk Incense already makes a link between luxite and Luccian transformation.
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>>576875871
>Ulya skip
Pussy.
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>>576875248
Of course. The only soulful art we get from this game is Garcia.
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You will roll Agata, and you will buy her skin to avoid EoS.
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>>576882294
Yeah it looks cool, I probably will
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>>576882294
No doubt.
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>>576882294
If it's just $20 then sure.
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i only buy skins for my wives Triss and Yennefer
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>>576886917
It's the most expensive skin they've ever made. Not only is it a gacha skin, which typically has odds weighted in a way that you have an extremely high chance of having to go all the way to get it, but they changed the gacha skin format just for SP Agata's skin in particular to make it harder/cost more.
Now "luckily" you can use luxite to get it, which means you might not have to spend even 1 dollar if you're sitting on a huge stash and are fine skipping some characters for the skin.
But when it came out on CN somebody did the math and it came out to like at least a couple of hundred bucks USD if you were to just straight buy the luxite needed to get it.
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>>576888860
Okay then, maybe not. Doubt I can afford to waste luxite for a skin but I've bought Ayisha and Anna's skins. Don't think I'll fork over much more than $20 for a cosmetic at any point.
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Remembering Kianshir
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Daily reminder this event is ass
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>>576875871
An actual retard. Congrats.
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>>576892596
>DURR DURR YOU REALLY NEED THIS UNITS THIS CHINK SAYS IT'S OP BRICK BRICK BRICK
>unit releases
>another 3 units doing x better release
>LOL CANT BELIEVE YOU PULLED THAT UNIT BRICK BRICK BRICK
How's Lutfi working out
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>>576732908
I paid attention against Luccians with primal ward and counter roles did not break them
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>>576732908
I need to go try this and would make some sense why everything always seems to be broken despite not using luccian characters.
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>>576894456
>>576895207
They have different ways of being broken. Read their passives. Counter roles don't do shit btw.
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just feels like i'm waiting to do dailies now, it was fun while it lasted I guess
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>>576897152
I prefer to play games like this as a side game, so I can grow slowly over time. If you make it a singular focus, you'll eventually run out of stuff to do. Better to pace it.
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>>576895664
They don’t, but they should have. Would have been great to make counter roles break the wards and only watcher roles on enemies require a specific tactic.
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>>576899564
Nah, it's more interesting this way. Like certain enemies being susceptible to alerts or ranged or multihits etc. More interesting than just matching colors imo.
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I regretted 5*ing Ayishah for a long time so it's nice they at least made her a pocket pussy for someone with the NRG recovery.
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>>576892372
i remember
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What does he even do?
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>>576893442
Not him but skipping Lutfi is sovlless desu
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>>576906970
Pulling traitors is bad
Pulling faggots is bad
Lutfi ticks both boxes and 2 wrongs don't make a right
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>>576907147
Lutfi is my dear friend so you are wrong
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>>576907324
I get that you faggots by your very nature bundle together but you're better off ditching him
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>>576907537
There is nothing straighter than the bond between men
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>>576907750
Faggots aren't really men
Barely even human
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Should I make a perfect Justice, Magician, Devil, Tower or Hangman tarot? Is Justice the most universal?
Which ones does SP Alexei use?
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It's weird that they went to the trouble of putting working reflections on maps with big sheets of ice to walk on but they never did anything about maps being suspended in light and dark grey checkered pattern space
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>A somewhat unusual arrow tower that seems to have other uses
>Conditions: Own at least 3 female heroes
what secrets is this building hiding?
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>>576912948
It fires phallic shaped devices
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>>576914024
That's the Knockback Tower that appears to have massive arrows and requires 3 male heroes
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Imagine the smell...
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>>576888860
What the fuck
I was legit ready to drop money on it even though I try to stay f2p on everything, but it's my Wife.
This is ridiculous.
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>>576888860
Eh, I'm feelin' lucky.
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>>576888860
I think the skin looks worse than default anyway so no biggie. I'll never buy gacha skins anyway. Only the Camelot or Ayishah style ones are worth it.
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Luccian enemies getting to attack 60 times per turn is retarded
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Luccia almost killed the game. Only for Beryl to save it.
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sweetening deals with acambe
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Next collab when?
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>>576906841
>he fell for the Shams scam
>he fell for the Estra scam
>he fell for the Rogneda scam
When will people learn that single target DPS characters are a meme?
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>>576909819
https://soc-yapdoc-browser.vercel.app/alexei-sp/tarots

Justice isn't that great nowadays since its easy to cap crit with Heshan/Ulya, and the 15% crit damage is only better than Magician in single target boss fights.

Physical Magician -> Magical Magician -> Physical Death -> Magical Death would be the priority, IMO. There are a lot of Piercing units coming up who want Death, and Alexei/Ivan both want Magician.
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>>576930357
Devil* i mean, not death
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>Start Iria Golden Route
>Witness how SoC literally NAT 20 over and over again to the point they raped every fucking faction to do (you)r bidding
>Everyone who joined (you) has massive plot armor, and nobody ever questioned (you) and Inanna's orders; no matter how bad the decision is, fate will do whatever it takes to make the outcome weigh in your favor
>A literal backwater town somehow managed to defeat Union's best of the best with a literal power of friendship
What the fuck?
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>>576934525
East Asians really love the power of friendship. And questioning why they are fighting. And cute mascot characters.

They love what they love.
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>>576934525
Who cares? It gave us what we all actually wanted, for MC and Inanna to be together.
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>>576934525
Had to get away from tragedywank at any cost
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So what makes Yserinde top tier on all the lists? How am I supposed to use her because she feels very underwhelming to me and I know that cant be true
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>>576936693
She can drop her daggers all over the battlefield to help allies with movement or just DoT an enemy with it, trigger it, and then kite the enemy by running away.
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Is Lukamar good?
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>>576936693
she's good support (movement, lifesteal, armor with the right ability), good piercing damage after dot, good survivability and can even solo rare stages that are hard for a whole team
she needs 3* for nrg and for her first turn ideally her trinket or someone to feed her 1 nrg so she can Endless Web
if you don't run either of those then she could take another usable trinket, put down her free plume, move on it and use her trinket, that gives her nrg for endless web
alternative if nrg is coming later than her turn on first round and you don't need the items for allies she can move on the first plume, place a second plume within range and end her turn on the second one to trigger Plume Rend
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>>576938460
She's a top 10 performer for me. Not as good as Shahnaz or Anna but definitely up there.
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>>576936693
She needs her sig and 3* for infinite NRG
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>>576943559
Her sig at 5 star?
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Have any of you guys player mecharashi? Between soc and mecharashi, which do you think is more f2p friendlier/better overall?
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Even Superman is playing the Luccia arc.
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>>576902776
I fall for it every time
I love it every time
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>>576944679
I played through the beta, ended up dropping it during global release week. I really, really don't like the gacha. It's solid if you're a low spender buying the passes and stuff all the time, but I wanted to f2p and it wasn't viable. No JP voices were also a big turnoff for me.
Meanwhile in SoC, they have all my favourite JP VAs, I can get almost all the characters without ever having to spend (bought a couple cheap skins for my faves, no regrets) and I enjoy the setting, story and characters a lot more.
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Did the lighthouse always have those little up arrows next to the name of the expedition locations to show which 2 are boosted each day? I've been clicking the thing in the upper left to read it each day, this is much easier.
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>>576951648
Nope. Pretty sure those came with the last patch.
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>>576951648
yes they have had that since at least the very early update that added saving teams
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>>576929963
Rogneda and Estra are great units, Scams is just a shitty unit that does nothing without liberation stacks, and even then he isn't tanky enough to fucking do it.
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>>576956761
>>576951648
I thought you meant in the dispatch "To:" dropdown list, just noticed the same arrows on the main screen location images, I've never used that to dispatch
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>tell them all to roll on Rogneda
>force them all to hard pity
>spook them with Xavier
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I'm the guy who tells all the content creators to shill Shams/Lutfi/SP Safi/etc as "must pulls" (they become irrelevant 2 weeks later).
Thanks for the Luxite, suckers.
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does it say somewhere why all these luccians are ignoring dodges and preempts or is this some bullshit
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Easy is six stages, for 800 of the hunt tech tree currency (gotta come up with a nickname for that).
Normal is 9 stages for 1230.
I'll think I'll grind Easy since it's quicker and friendlier to auto.
Which nodes are you guys unlocking? I've just been taking it slow working my way around the innermost circles. I do like the magic watchtowers, but the upgrades that make them good require units not everyone has.
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>Antige is the Reddit atheism unit

>>576963613
Act Again tactic and magic tower then all the upgrades that increase TP and deployment points, as well as +20% atk for factions I have and extra currency gain. You can basically ignore the bottom left and right sides of the tree after you get your initial tactics until later.
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>>576963613
I just click on random nodes and if it sounds nice at all, I unlock. I will retard my way through this. But gradually.
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Soon™ for real!
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>>576963613
in all that mess there's one TP for all weather and "deploy point" for all weather
there's an act again tactic, while there's a move again tactic it's not the march command tactic that one is elsewhere later
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I like Luccia but I miss my Acambe...
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AIEEEE YEGANEH CHADS I BEND THE KNEE
I WILL NEVER KNOW THE AMAZING BOONS YOU WILL ENJOY AS YOU LOOK DOWN AT US PEONS DOWN BELOW
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>>576976364
I'm in the same boat, have everyone there but Yeggers.
I know someone's gotta have it, let us know what it does.
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>>576976364
I have Yeganeh and Shizznizz. But not Acambe and Cocoa.
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>>576976856
i 5*ed Acambe it was a complete waste of time
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>>576981861
he can tickle that shaman up on the cliff with his 8 height range summon which is also a complete waste of time
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>>576957380
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>>576946104
I havent watched season 3....
I miss tomboy Lois
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>>576976364
Have the others but Acambe was the original scam unit.
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Can you spot the fake?
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Who could defeat her?
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>>576990246
The exact same Ayishah, but in the Mary Poppins dress, could defeat her.
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>>576981861
He's tied with the best art in the game (with Auguste), so it wasn't a complete waste.
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>>576990246
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>>576989808
that floaty girl has legs! a knight spots the imposter!
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>>576993469
Sex
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instructs cocoa on handling monster meat
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Inanna raped me...
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Okay hard mode doesn't let you just send out your level 50 rare Luccians to get the free win.
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>>576993469
Holy legs
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>>576993469
legs WAY too long
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>>577001964
understand she can never remember that she's already stretched her legs
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I've been super busy and barely touched the game in like a week. This even that just started is...UD with a different name right? And stupid ward rules?
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>>577006863
Pretty much, there are some changes to how it works but at it's core it's UD
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I barely hit 60 when the tower of adversity ended the last time. Here it comes again.
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Camelot + Sanctuary Stone is very funny
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>>576934525
Golden Routes are always shit without exception.
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>>576930357
Thanks. My Magician tarots all suck and I am planning to get Ulya so I'll probably make a Magician.
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>*Received friend request*
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>>577018907
I'm sorry, you may decline.
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>>577021286
For the last fucking time stop telling people to reject my requests, dickhead
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I enjoyed the week where we were more active
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Go get eddy
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>>577027545
My wife's release will save this thread.
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activating yserinde's almonds
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>>577031984
Evergreen character.
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kill Beryl
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>>577035443
Done.
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I finally 5 starred SP Inanna.

Feels so good to be able to put someone else in the mine.
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>>577040603
Congrats you'll see a big boost using Call of Freedom at 5*
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It's time. Was also very careful remembering anon getting Homa's weapon the max amount of times.
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Yen gets to watch.
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>>577040603
2 more months for mine to hit 5*... And less than one for my Shahnaz.
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>>576960741
...Our Guy Hawky??
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>>576960741
I’m still thinking about it getting Lutfi from the paid selector, bros.
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Daybreak Sovereign is tanking Relentless.
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>>577045723
Based Ayishah just doing the damn thing.
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>Beryl
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>>577035443
>>577038442
>>577046818
Will you guys STOP being mean to my wife Beryl!?
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Will skip Estra 2.0
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>>577028423
Rogneda is the Shams of the Luccian arc. Make of that what you will.
I'll be pulling too, as someone who 5 starred Shams.
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>>577047881
I started during Shams banner. I’ll always have an affinity for him, due to how much he helped me. He still does with the constant counterattacks.

I want to four star him one day.
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>He pullered for Estra, Sp Saffi, Team Meteor, Lutfi, Layla, Flavia...
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>alexei turns in to a bear
>agata turns in to a werewolf
>rog turns in to a glowing lion shining like a sun and leaping all over the battlefield
perhaps the goldenlion tribe was too strong for this world of peace
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Why do people not like Lutfi if he is basically an invisible DoT machine?
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the Luccian arc is too good, there are too many cool characters to pull for and no space to shard farm them
it needs to be more like Elaman, where are all the gay and lame characters like Kianshir and Pooch?
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>>577048374
His damage is terrible. He slowly tickles enemies to death, in the 4 turns it took him to whittle down a trash mob you could have just had your Camelot oneshot it turn 1.
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>>577048374
I used to use him constantly for months, but haven't busted him out much since like halfway through Elaman. There's so many good characters, team slots are very competitive now except for UD and UD-related stuff like Hunting Grounds.
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>>577048419
Your Ulya?
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>>577045723
Dantalion is kind of a monster if his buffs activate. I'm unironically impressed. He still has issues in that his AOE is small and movement sucks but he takes basically no dmg and deletes whatever you point him at.
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>>577048374
It's just Lutfilets seething about /ourguy/. Also Primal Ward kinda fucks him since it turns off debuffs on most enemies and that's kinda his gimmick.
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Why is this doing so poorly in sales? It's at the bottom of the gacha revenue list. If this continues EOS is inevitable.
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>>577048374
Lufti is one of my favorite units but I haven't used him too much in the last months
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>>577049921
Yennefer portal + SP Inanna move +1 & act again should fix most of his mobility issues
I wish I had a 5 star Dantalion so I could test him out, I rerolled for Beryl and Collike an idiot instead.
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>>577050958
I picked him from the anniversary selector so he's only 1*. Still quite solid. His stars only give him around a 15% boost in stats I believe which would be nice but doesn't change his gameplay at all.
If SP Dantalion happens and gives him a big AOE attack as SP skill I think he could be a meta relevant unit.
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>>577050220
It doesn’t make much but doesn’t cost much to make. It is stable in revenue and won’t EoS without a substantial drawdown.
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>>577050220
First, the lists you're looking at aren't factoring in payments made on Steam or XD's own pay client, which make up a large chunk, possibly the majority, of profits.
Second, revenueposting is always irrelevant as I've seen games that have never made the charts outlive plenty of ones that do, including top 50 and top 100 games. Typically when a gacha EoSs, it's because of a major incident or series of incidents that cause mass migration of players that the game can't recover from or the company wants to focus resources elsewhere, and SoC is still sitting front and center for XD.
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>>577048419
Idk, Agata, Sena, Ulya, Rog, Finn, even Anna all seem pretty skippable to me.
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>>577053027
This, I've only ever spent money on their site for the 5% off.
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>>577053027
You're probably typing at a bot. Yes why would anyone bother botting this thread, I wonder too. I'm guessing "establishing credentials" with the anti-spam system with innocuous imitation posts reduces the chances of getting bounced when making a thread to shill products.
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Does anyone have a surefire method they used to grind levels in the eleman SoD? I really dislike this and want to get the luxite and get out.
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>>577054106
Oh I'm sure I was replying to a troll or a bot, revenue/EoS concern posters are almost always one of the two, but I figured I'd make the post anyway in case we have newfriends here for anniversary that might see stuff like that and get scared off.
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>>577054493
Sadly, raising tempering level is ass to the point that I still haven't hit the cap ever since the last time they raised. I'm probably just gonna wait until we get one of the Elaman arena events CN got.
But the fastest I've found is just doing the arena betting mode, Endless is absolutely not worth it. It's probably like Luccia's Endless mode that stops giving Memories of Fighting increases after 27 stages or so.
Bet on Agata's crew if they show up and pray.
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>>577054860
What team do you pick for it? Suddenly I've started failing it over and over and I keep picking what are considered S tier units.
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>>577048374
He's a fag.
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>>577048374
He was considered t0.5 and was good at stalling out a mob group but then the SP Samantha, Camelot and Yserinde came out around the time people were 5* SP Inanna and that kind of changed the game.
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>>577055439
They had an update to it not long ago adding some new Elaman teams but I haven't played it since then. Back when I was playing it, Agata's full team was undefeated, and any team with Afra was also good, Afra is god in autochess modes. Team Meteor can be extremely good too, but only if it's a good map for them ie lots of straight surfaces and places to knock back enemies.
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Ok, I am gonna need a brainlet guide on how to deal with these damn wards, this shit is fucking annoying.
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>>577057229
Use Luccians lol
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>>577057229
Read nigga read (their trait)
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>only two extra rewards reset per week
>not four
I have upset myself for not reading the fineprint.
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>>577060642
It's no big deal since the extra rewards only give the shop currency and not MoF for the hunting tech tree. Kinda pointless, really, you'll clear the shop months before you max the tree ie the thing that matters.
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>>577061037
But what is left to get if there is nothing in the shop?
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>>577061169
Nothing, the extra rewards cease to have a use then.
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>>577061498
I mean what is the point of filling out the tree if the rewards have ceased?
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>>577061914
The tree will help you clear the harder modes, which give one time quest rewards for clearing.
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I will clear them just to say I cleared them.
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>running low on units that aren't drained
>next area looks potentially tough
>still got Shams
No fucken problem afterall.
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>>577057229
I was (but no longer) thinking of making a picture cheatsheet myself since nobody seems to be stepping up and I won't be remembering any of this shit
... until I saw the exact same brutebear shieldguard sprite used for both an Unlimited resolve ward trait and for a different shield enemy type, in the exact same stage no less
this and having to do the easy modes first are my main gripes with the new content
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>>577068952
I maintain that they should have simplified it. Each role would have a specific way to deal with the ward on it. Then you know without reading beyond the first time, what to do.

Watcher role? Just hit him with alert. Destroyer? Dots. That sorta shit.
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>>577055709
You're a fag.
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Any storyline that doesn't include Lutfi dying is a bad storyline
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Finally got Ayishah's awesome new unique maxed.
Now I'm trying to decide which r13 skill to go for next. Either Roggers, or give the new Dantalion people have been gassing up a try.
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>>577073248
Ayishah will pair with Dantalion better
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>>577073248
I’m gonna five star Ayishah just for that +2 energy regen on the pledge. Then I can use her to make a ton of low star units a pleasure to use until I get them starred up.
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>>577073248
His mobility and range is still shit and the spawned in bugs disappearing after hit doesn't proc his trait unfortunately but he gets quite bulky at max devil/sword/ascension stacks.
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Remember when we used to get over 600 astral shards a month
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>>577053641
Only a homo would skip this.
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>>577073490
>>577074234
Which skills are you guys using with Dantalion with his new weapon+ascension?
>>577074426
Gotten zero this month, it sucks so much especially since they increased the number of imprints you can buy from 3 to 5 per month.
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>>577074426
That only happened once. If anything they've increased the amount we get, we used to get ~400 a month and I remember being starved for Astrals. Now it seems like a steady 600 a month, but most of it comes late in the month.
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>>577079082
>Gotten zero this month
If only there was an event that gives them scheduled to start sometime soon...
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Do you think they will ever introduce more daily events like Crossing Worlds, Pioneer, Expedition type stuff?
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>>577074426
I must have been remembering something like that because I got the elaman/clara batch at 2* each, no shards and the realization that while I eventually could make them better than basic gear their characters will have long been off season. You used to be able to target 1 out of 3 or so batches but now don't bother going after a new one if you haven't saved at least 2000 shards
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>>577080779
When are we getting another Beryl gambling board game anyway?
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>>577078954
Guess I'm gay then.
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Long timers, what is the difference between Universal Derivation and this Luccian Hunt?

And why did they take away UV if it seems to be widely praised?
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>>577087203
This is perma and UD will roll around again later.
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>>577087203
UD is one long string of 30-40 battles and later +10 extra challenging ones with lesser rewards
hunt ends after 6-9-?-? battles which is probably less gap between new/old players roster sizes, I haven't gotten to the harder modes yet
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>>577087203
UD is a limited time event that's longer like the other anon said. It'll be back one day.
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>>577078954
I might. She's not as hot as Agata or Rog, though.
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>>577079082
Aura and any two of Dawnlight, Daybreak or his ult. Former has the most range but ST. Others are aoe and do mixed damage to build Swrod stacks. Endless Dawn would be so much better you could use it like Simona's Icy Blast.
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>>577057229
Your loving mother-figure Anna?
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>>577090765
>It'll be back one day
Maybe
Still waiting for vod to come back instead of this halls shite
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Give me my money event back
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Beryl
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpAmc0lwGfs

A little gameplay of the new girl. I hate when the ult is their their portrait.
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>>577050220
>we survived gogo muffin and etheria
Other than heartopia XD has no games
Doubt they'll pull the plug on us unless we went below 100k a month
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>>577095875
>I hate when the ult is their their portrait.
Same. It's so lazy.
She looks really good though.
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>>577048374
Yserinde powercrept him in ways that matter more for the current meta
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>double memory shards are soon to be gone
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>>577087203
>UV
>widely praised
By who? Roster draining events fucking suck. Bring back VoD instead.
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>>577105519
>By who?
Ok so we're just going to pretend like every time it came around the thread wasn't full of posts about how much fun the weaker units that never usually get used are and how it's good that UD pushes you to try different teams
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>>577095875
The hell does she do?
>>577108358
The Eleman VoD did that better. UD is just time consuming and designed to be not fun.
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>double memory shards
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>>577113751
>The Eleman VoD did that better
I don't give a shit, UD has been widely praised for it since it started. You clearly disagree with the praise and are trying to act like it never happened.
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>>577113751
>designed to be not fun
definitely, if this game was designed to be fun shiznah would have needed twice as many memory shards to fit with her backstory because that's fun and also for the complete memory of her legs
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>>577108358
>UD pushes you to try different teams
There's better ways of doing that than shitty roster draining. Proof and ToA are far better for that.
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>>577122515
>Proof and ToA are far better for that
No they are not you lying twat
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>UD is good actually! Everyone loves UD!
Explain Luccia UD almost EOSing the game
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Why does Auguste react so strongly to Dantalion switching swords during the handover of Lutfi?
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Should I bother starring Anna past 3*? I want to put Pooch back in.
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>>577130514
Do you want Anna at 4 or 5*?
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>>577130827
Dunno, doesn't seem that strong but maybe I'm retarded
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>>577130889
Well since I have to make up your mind for you, you want to take Homa to 5*
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>>577131147
I'll flip a coin between Homa, Dantalion and Pooch
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>>577131381
Which one needs the coin to land on it's edge?
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>>577130889
The yapdoc has a shard tier list.
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Page 10...
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>wont be able to 3* Anna because i pulled her 4 days after her release
Manna...
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>>577140413
check if you have any multi colored crystals in your items called Unnamed immortal recollection
if you started playing this arc you won't but otherwise might have missed them
we also got a few breaker shards from starting UD but that alone won't make up 4 days
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Vlder golden route doko?
Union golden route doko?
Papal golden route doko?
Menia route doko?
Witengamot route doko?
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Golden route? More like Golden Poop
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There should be double Pioneer medal week events
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>got Anna to 3-star
>got her weapon to 5-star
>still got 130 pulls for Rogneda
I will own everything.
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bring me ivan
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>>577122842
He's right you fucking idiot
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>>577153906
In Soviet Luccia, Rogneda own you.
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Global getting the Luccian ToA this early into Luccia is gonna get crazy. CN had SP Alexei and Ulya, and I think Rogneda too for it? It'll be interesting to see if the devs change it again and/or what strats people will come up with to get around the lack of strong Luccians.
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How long are the other SOC routes? I enjoyed Luccia quite a bit. How does the young Saffiyah, Convallaria and Elaman compare?
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>>577153906
Aint the weapon only really good for ward piercing and nothing else?
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I'm rolling ether way but big beautiful woman aside, how much of a shams bait is Rog?
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>>577164147
She's better than Shams, as she has 10+ movement and more AoE than him. The problem with her is she's squishy as shit (basically has the stats of a mage but is forced to go into melee range) and the Luccian/Papal arcs both are Alert/counterattack-focused metas, so she has no place in them. You will use her for the Luccian ToA and then never again.
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>>577166528
So Ayishah can protect her. And my fat wife Clara.
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>>577167641
Ayishah would actually be a cool combo with Rog...if her fat stubby legs can keep up.
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>>577162393
all are shorter than the original spiral routes, elaman 1 felt longer than elaman 2, the inanna route I don't remember anything about and haven't finished luccia to compare
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>>577166528
I will skip this unit in much the same way I skipped Estra. There will be no ragrets.
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>>577167782
that's what Moon Silhouette is for
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why do they like Ayishah's "character"/outfit design so much
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>>577174018
Elegance.
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My PC died and I lost all my Acambe pics...
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>>577178734
his best pic has already been posted >>576811792 good luck with rebuilding
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>>577178734
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I'll prob only give the thunder cat the discounted 10 pull. need to save for alexei because im a homosexual
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>>577166528
The appeal is Shams is largely in an Elaman team. The Elaman team synergy is strong and fun. I am not seeing that from Luccia. Mostly they seem to all be furries that can break ward, a mechanic that will never return after a couple of events
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>>577180652
they also frost
like if flavia was a team and not powercrept yet
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>>577180652
Ward could return if they just standardize it and make it easier to understand. Not bury the method of breakage in traits, unique to the unit.
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>No new proof of strength to favor Luccian units
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I want to gamble for Rog but if they go full retard and put Alexei/Ivan back to back I won't have enough. The obvious outcome is Ivan is pushed to the back of part 2 but I'd rather not risk it.
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>>577180652
Luccians are all about items. Ulya, Anna, Finn, etc can create items
SP Alexei can toss items at enemies
Ulya gives people speed and NRG when they pick items up
Also a lot of them like Senna and Ivan interact with and create Frost or special frost tiles
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>>577189589
Ulya is between Alexei and Ivan.
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>>577189589
we already have the roadmap, bwo. Ivan is after Ulya
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>>577189772
>>577189808
Not enough of a buffer.
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>>577189548
Prof of strenght is my favorite mode. Fun Gimmicks and permanent. Good rewards too
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>>577178734
Rip /soc/yume
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>>577178734
I'm sorry..
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>>577191208
It was great. The best kind of frustration.

Sad to see it's not being expanded on yet.
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I've been waiting on them to expand on clash since 2024..
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literally no one cares about Col

>>577194973
they did, with the realtime PvP mode no one played
then they swept it under the rug and pretended like it never happened
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>>577195998
They still had the most played pvp partner in this years review, which was the guy I did that event with ages ago. Which reminds me I got an Amazon card from that soc pvp tournament awhile back but it was in the wrong currency.
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>>577194973
>Think Clash Royale
>Each side has 2 guard towers and one castle
>Players have to pick 20 units, 4 of each role
>Eight units randomly chosen as your 'deck', place three units down at the start
>All combatants are on auto
>Each round can place one more unit, random unit added to the deck
>try to kill opponents towers and castle or their units
>get Tactics spell to use each round too
Something like that.
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>>577195998
>Hagified
Col pedos are not loyal
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Soundtrack is now on spotify

https://open.spotify.com/album/1CqNq5fzyuDKVkLL8jPllZ
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>Papal arc
>Union arc
>Luccia invasion of Elaman arc
>Menia (?) arc, whatever technology place
>World War Convallaria arc
Where else can we go? What else has been mentioned?
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Any time I am tempted by meta units and tier lists I just simply remember that sp Safiyah was considered must pull at one point.
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>>577210316
and her sig weapon
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>>577210316
The entire concept of meta doesn't make a lot of sense to me in this game.

A meta team pertains to about 1% or less of all content. 99% of the game is accessible to anything and it's just a matter of playing long enough to get talents that advance stats.

If someone is concerned about meta only, I'm not sure why they would get anyone in the Luccia arc. They will be replaced by Papal units soon enough. And then again and again.
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>>577210473
her sword is still the best thing on spinanna
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>>577211010
I really should re-engrave it and move it over on her over the Void Stab.
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>Miguel settled down and raised his murderhobo right
good dad
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>>577214169
>she plays with cats instead of cleaning her room
with more money I could buy a better teen
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Anyone know what these are? Starting in September.
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>>577216587
Wishing Machine is basically a login thing where you donate some ore every day and get some stuff.
Polaris Blessing is one of the "get additional extra rewards from certain daily dungeons for a week" event, can't remember which ones but it's not shards.
Hall of Winds is the Luccian version of the Elaman roguelite mode, the Hall of Sands where you have branching paths and get random blessings and recruit random units. I heard it had some QoL improvements so it should be better than the Elaman one. Then again, it'll have Luccian mechanics so it'll likely be tougher.
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>>577217979
Polaris is ten star trial extra rewards. So even more dumping of stamina on stars in less than a month.
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>>577216313
shalom
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>>577221034
Nice, I was hoping that's what it was. Almost done with all the attack nodes, then it'll just be cleaning up hp and def
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>>577224967
Thanks Sammy
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>>577210316
I still use SP Saffiyah daily thoughever
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Goodnight /socg/
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>>577231652
Sleep well, dream-warrior.
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Death to beryl
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It's pretty cute how big bro Shams just sits in front facetanking everything while Lukamar just sits behind him stealthily dancing.
These Proof stages have been pretty fun.
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Just finished the final Proof stage, that was very fun. Edda was insanely good for it. Her assist attack was hitting for almost 100k lol.
Anyone know if Luccia gets more Proof stages?
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>>577245871
>big bro Shams
You don't know SHIT
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>>577256379
Lilysex
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>>577256379
DeadLilysex
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If I wanted to do a relentless run with a refresh I really should have read some of the effects on how ward works.
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>>577256379
Lily hairotica
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>Dude what if bugs spawn MORE bugs and those bugs also have wards!!

No wonder this shit almost killed the game.
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>>577252720
I asked this before and was told we don’t get one.
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>>577240647
She SAVED your dumb game after the luccia flop. APOLOGIZE.
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https://youtu.be/-HihabZ408Y

New/Returning players are starting to hate on the game...
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>>577270806
Guess it's gacha brainrot but I do not mind the peaks and valleys of endgame content as it gives me time to play other things for awhile. He's right that they need to do much more to help catch newer players up though.
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>>577271853
Is there any gacha that helps newer players catch up materially?
Best you can get is probably just rolling for the new OP character and you are caught up.

Gacha's aren't like World of Warcraft lol
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>>577270806
I started in late April so I'll give my take.
>Point one. Time gated mechanics need changed like Expedition/Pioneer
I don't think this needed a catch-up mechanism so much as being able to start them sooner. They are buried in the Fools Journey for some reason. I'd unlock both once the player hits level 60 voyager.
>Point two. Low level units should use different rank up and castalia materials
Mostly agree here. At least cut the amount needed substantially for medals. Counterpoint is that they are still niche useful without being rank12+
>Point three. Low Medals for daily.
Agreed. Getting one or two is terrible.
>Point four. Have 'veteran' characters automatically level and rank up.
I'd rather they just have an easier to acquire currency to star up older characters. The rest of the costs seem fine to me. I still use Rawiyah sometimes.
>Point five. Add guild content.
I agree. I'm in a random guild but it's decently active. Feels like we could be doing more than getting weekly not-great rewards for just doing dailies.
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>>577273590
>>Point four. Have 'veteran' characters automatically level and rank up.
This. Just add a second memory mines that you can only take old units into. Rest is fine desu but make lighthouse a once per day thing instead of likely needing 2 sets of 5.
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Lot of begging in here
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>>577273590
>>577276618
Oh and to add to this, medal system needs to be changed lol. It's only bearable for me now coz I'm done with most of the stars so I can break them down for dust. Needing 180 medals is grueling otherwise.
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>>577276618
I would have running the memory mines award Veteran Recollection currency.

Works identical to normal recollections but only on characters one year or older past their debut. Maybe give 5 or so? At 30 days a month, that’s 150. That would mean it would star up one veteran character from 1 to 5 after two months.
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>>577276726
‘Begging’ is suggestions on how to make a game better. They can take it or leave it. Why get nad
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>>577277191
oh yes the devs totally check 4channel.org for suggestions.
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>>577278317
We fill out surveys, jackass.
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>>577279228
i always tell them to delete Beryl
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>>577280669
>so they added a Beryl
great job jackass
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We kinda love Beryl here.
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>>577272668
Wouldn't know but maybe they could retain more new players if they gave more rewards for that beginner quest thing or something like that. I do understand gacha players are the lowest common denominator of game player and would likely demand equal compensation in return.
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>>577283896
that's not what lowest common denominator means fyi
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You need to send out recommended captain for some of these lighthouse quests in case you're like me and just send the same group every time.
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Agatabros...we're meta?
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>>577266949
This, her 5* art is pure sex
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>>577284842
She's been great for me with her new unique. Can you post the rest of those? I thought there were more with more examples of units that can solo and which monsters show up during which weather.
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It's been 9 months since the last VoD
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>>577284842
Delete this AI shit. Lazy fucks.
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>>577284842
>no bricko
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>>577291189
I've been spending heavy on good engravings since then I'm almost down to 60m going to start saving.
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>>577291189
Devs thought the shit bounty board event could take its place.
It could not. Better gold exchange than most events, but still not as good as VoD and a helluva lot more of a hassle.
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Drink yer mead, laddie
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>>577293672
I'm out of mead now. Waiting til tomorrow to carry on.
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>4* Heshan
>4* Shahnizzle
>3* Anna
Who do I take out of the mines for Rogneda?
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>>577298954
you dont pull for Brickneda
remember estra and shams
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>>577298954
Any of them. I have all at three except Heshan at two, but he’s in the mines til three. I was happy with them at three.

Anyone who is cool will roll on Rogneda. She wears tight leather pants.
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>>577299428
>homosexual
>disses shams
why are you so confused
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>>577298954
Heshan, maybe? Shahnaz and Anna both seem more useful at 5* than him, though his 5* still seems nice.
I have the same three in my mines right now and when Rogneda comes out, I plan on spending some destroyer shards to take Shahnaz straight to 5*, put Roggy in her place and keep going with Heshan and Anna to 5 star.
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>>577300592
is nu Beryl a destroyer too or another role? because she may have a star up event like Anna to save shards for
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>>577277191
When every suggestion is "give me more things for free" then yeah, begging
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>>577302114
I guess you can counter balance by suggesting things to take away. Put that in your survey too.
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>>577300857
She's a destroyer, yeah. As much as I want her, I expect to be fully broke after Luccia.
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So this arc is just a furfag's wet dream?
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>>577302981
And bara
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>>577302981
Yes.
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>>577308943
Ugly
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Shacklulu meta for ward breaking.
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>>577314571
Elaborate
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>>577314571
You break one of the bugs with multi-hits which Shack is great at. The annoying bug spawning one needs 3 little bug kills with preempt/alerts which Suppression is great at.
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>>577319863
>Momolession
nice and I bet that MDEF tower tarot I've been saving is gonna keep being useless because it's all from the hunter level stats...
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The Tsaritsa won
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>>577314571
Stop using literal whos bro
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>>577323842
Present your case as to why.
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>units before SP Inanna were relatively well-balanced
>after SP Innanna and the collab, every unit starts to powercreep the previous unit
I'm noticing
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>>577331727
You're not noticing very well, every arc has one or two standout units and the rest only manage to powercreep the previous batch when used in content built for their particular gimmick, after that they fall back to around even.
But sure, Boss Rico started powercreeping Inanna.
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>>577332153
Damn straight
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>>577332153
more like every arc has two lesser units, and even Kianshir powercreeps Harambe in every situation save if you managed to target the older version in an even more specific way - the opposite of what you're saying on both counts
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>>577336474
Kianshir powercreeping one single unit from the first 6 months is not even close to the same as each new unit powercreeping the ones before it with Kianshit being right at the tail end of that chain
The fact that you need to single out Acambe shows how wrong the claim was
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>>577331727
The really old units would need ascensions that basically touch up every single skill to compare.
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>>577341489
+40% damage Guzzlard getting 1 or 2-shot by luccian watchers in easy mode
+40% HP Leonide makes it to the end... by turn 15
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>>577298954
>rolling rogneda
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>>577339593
Is Acambe salvagable with his Ascension? I tried out the lvl 45 Kianshir trial in the chillwind thing and he mogs my R13 Acambe so fucking hard it's kinda depressing.
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>>577351303
No idea, I hate niggers.
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damn I really spent 96 breaker crystals for 20(?) weapon pulls...
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>>577356584
Unclean women won



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