Chaozu pointing at (You) edition!- Xenoverse 3 announced- Xenoverse 2 final DLC is out- Two anime series have been announced: DBS: Beerus (with Frieza teaser) and DBS: Galactic Patrol- FighterZ new balance update is out- Gekishin Squadra is out• XENOVERSE 3 - GAMEPLAY FIRST LOOKhttps://youtu.be/2WJ8irTIw7I• XENOVERSE 2 - FUTURE SAGA CH4 LAUNCH TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/DFWpzSFTJco• SPARKING ZERO - SUPER LIMIT BREAKING NEO DLC SHOWCASEhttps://youtu.be/-yVuL6K1oMI• FIGHTERZ - GOKU SS4 DAIMA TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/qTfxD54fMHs• GEKISHIN SQUADRA - GOKU BLACKhttps://youtu.be/x4ayJVx2ev8• KAKAROT - DAIMA PT2 LAUNCH TRAILERhttps://youtu.be/ZY6OAh_7KYw>Useful links:https://rentry.org/dft79XV2 news:>Future Saga Chapter 4 is outSDBH News/Resources:>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24>SDBH Database: https://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/>Deck Autism: https://rentry.org/sdbhdecklistDBSDV news:>The 11th set has released>God Rares: SSB Goku, SSB Vegetto, Corrupted Zamasu, Beast Gohan, Orange Piccolo, Cell Max, Xeno Vegeta, SS3 Xeno Bardock>Reflect Break Cards: SSG Goku, Ultimate Gohan, SSR Trunks, Piccolo, Whis>Modes based on Goku Black and DBS Superhero arcs>2nd Anniversary soon>Card List: https://www.dbsdv.com/cardlist/?series=598010>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefileIf you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.Kakarot news:>Daima DLC Pt2 launched on January 15thThe Breakers news:>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry herehttp://xenoverse.booru.org/Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)Thank youLAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>576332854
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>>576746438In the event she dies will they replace her or just use AI?
>>576746476Wrong
I hope Xenoverse 3 leans enough into the super hero gimmick to have a Breakers style mode where you rescue citizens
How bad is your Broly MAD brainrot?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOe1bJA3u_Y
Do you guys recommend getting Dragon Ball Kakarot?
>>576751295If you can pirate it or get all the DLC at a really good deal yeah.Otherwise it's hard to recommend purchasing any of these infinite DLC games like XV2 and Kakarot for reasons like pic related.
>>576753015Damn. Is Sparking Zero aiming to be infinite DLC too despite the big one that just came out? In that case I'd rather stick with the one I already have (haven't really touched the DLC yet since Switch users get cucked until 2027).
It's hard to be excited for Xenoverse 3 when the only thing we've seen is that increasingly annoying mission with Broly. I hope the next Vjump isn't a dud like last month's and the next trailer actually has something that finally proves Hirano's multiple claims about how big and impactful it's going to be.
>>576751295Honestly no, boss battles are fun but there's only really like 6 good ones in the base game and the rest of the things you fight are easy even on the hardest difficulty and the open world part of the game is easily the worst part of the game with how boring and empty it is.Can't speak for any of the DLC tho
>>576756229Battle of the gods doesn't retell the movie, Beerus and Whis just grab Goku and Vegeta and train them up to SSG so it's boring and the only good part is that Vegeta and Goku both have an SSG boss fight with Beerus with cutscenes at the end.RoF was shit but somehow better than the movie. Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Goten, Trunks, 18, and I think eve 17 were all there and Frieza's old empire all revived. But there's no tagoma, Shisami, no or sorbet, I don't even remember who revived Frieza in this and who cheapshotted Goku. Future Trunks DLC was amazingEarly DB DLC was amazingDaima was underwhelming. Should have used it to showcase what the series didn't have time to do, like the fusion bugs and more of the demon realm.
I was so excited when I heard CC2 was making a kakarot too, but I look at the actual quote and it's just vague corporate speak that Japs ALWAYS do what the hell? The only good thing we can infer is that they haven't fully dropped licensed anime. It felt like that a few months ago when they said they were focusing on their original titles.
I still think they could've come up with a better name than 'Kakarot' for the game
>>576757768>The only good thing we can infer is that they haven't fully dropped licensed anime.They made it sound like they were only going to focus on the ones they already have>At Japan Expo, CyberConnect2 president Hiroshi Matsuyama addressed the possibility of a Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot sequel. He gave no confirmation or denial, offering no concrete clues, but said the studio is working hard on its anime-based franchises.We don't really need a Kakarot 2 or a Naruto Storm 5. They should focus on anime IPs they haven't worked on like Chainsaw man and JJk
is that limit break neo dlc the only one worth getting for SZ? what's actually all in it anyways?
Or how about we stop begging for and relying on the same 2 studios to make anime games with good visuals and get all these other studios to lock in.
Enough time has passed.DB Online >>> Kakarot>actually get to adventure with your homies>builds the DB's world lore like no other>you FIGHT on the open field instead of pretending to be open world only to be a glorified arena fighter>tons of customization for your character
>>576758016Limit Breaker mode DLC charactersMaps New story episodes and what-ifsZERO song It's fun and made offline play great again
>>576758067Playing DBO with my Chatango/Skype friends back in the day is a good memory of mine
>>576758067Is there anything to do in the world or is empty like Kakarot's?
>>576757907CC2 are focussing on .hack and rightfully so, it's their baby and there hasn't been a main series .hack game in a while.There's understandably a licensed anime game lull, many of them have been poor quality, especially ones published by bandai namco to the degree that a year or two back an article came out where they had to state they began to cancel a whole bunch of games and focus on quality over quantity.It's likely that all these crappy arena fighters aren't as profitable as they used to be.>>576758016Season pass has:>DB super hero characters>first half daima characters>second half daima characters (with ss3 vegeta and SS4 goku)>shallot is an extraLimit Breaker Neo has:>Limit Breaker Journey (repeatable 10 stage journey where you can increase stats and gain passives + increase your aura size, also has some unique interactions/dialogue)>30+ dlc characters, mostly OG DB and GT>4 new (but short) characters to play in episode mode>bunch of new costumes, some of them with new supers>couple of new mapsthe DLC is better for the price and I can understand why people have 0 interest in Daima slop except for SS3 vegeta
>>576758016Neo has WAY more value than the original season pass, but you might still wait for a sale (SZ is more expensive than it has any right to be). Super Hero had some fun characters. Daima was kind of a miss; movesets and dialogue were underwhelming in my opinion.
>>576758839>a whole bunch of games and focus on quality over quantity.I remember that article. They've gotten a tiny bit better content wise but still not really good enough. And they still all look like unreal asset flips. That new attack on titan game coming out actively tried diluting the anime features in their previous game's models.
>>576759350Yeah. The studios and Bandai need to change their production process for them but non-gacha, non-dragon ball games don't make enough for the juice to be worth the squeeze.Anytime I see discourse about Sparking Zero's models online I remember how lucky we are that Sparking Zero even looks as good as it does, and not in a "we should be grateful" kind of way, but because Spike only put as much effort in *because* it's Dragon Ball. Spike would never go back and make characters more expressive for a hypothetical One Piece burning blood 2. OP fans would be lucky if the graphics didn't end up downgrading.
>>576758067lol no.the lore is incredibly stupid in DBO. it barely even builds the world it's just "and here's the region where all the buu people live, and here's the region where all the namek people live, and here's an ice region, and here's a grassland region" etc.the game, while nostalgic, is genuinely ass. even by MMO standards back then it was considerably shit and built on a horrible engine.>>576758305generic MMO fetch and kill quests where you fight a bunch of woodland creatures and a hundred different variations and recolors of saibamen thrown in each region.
>>576759350We're likely only beginning to see the results now, I would write off sequels to existing games like AOT especially because its a koei tecmo game, don't have to change much at all which has always been their thing.The real test will be .Hack, the next mainline Tales Of game, XV3, Gundam Rogue Orbit and Blood of Dawnwalker
>>576759752I love sparking zero, it's a much better game than BT3.There's just so many annoying and vocal morons online and natural in the spanish speaking communities that constantly nitpick things about the game and how it isn't BT3 (YEA ITS A SEQUEL AFTER 2 DECADES ON A COMPLETELY NEW ENGINE BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP).Sure it has flaws like>Music>Cheap looking menus>Underutilized cosmetic system>Launched without survival (easy to implement) and mission 100 (also easy to implement)However its a brand new game after 20 years that had almost as many characters as BT3 at launch (BT3 which by modern game standards could almost be considered the 2nd expansion of BT1).They could have gone with only having 30-50 characters that are very polished with a deep refined/balanced and very competitive fighting system but everyone would have complained about the roster size, the roster size is the most well known feature of BT3 and so that was their focus and they were right to do that, even other arena fighter slop game's don't launch with that many characters while feeling just as equally lacking in other departments.Regardless going online all you see are these brainlets calling the game trash over the tiniest things like>music>a character's face during a specific attack>the lack of a specific costume being in the game>some shitty fanfic form from db heroes (a series they only know about from reading wikipedia)>a mechanic being different regardless of whether its for the better or not.
>>576739810>horny teen vomi will never ride you and have her way with youThis world is fucking gay
>>576757906Legacy of Goku was taken
>>576761113You lack Gero's assets.
>>576761250They could have paid Webfoot like $100 to get the name. I don't think they've made anything since the 3DS
>>576761113I like the idea of young Dr. Gero looking like Android 13 because that's who 13 was based off of.
Reminder that the Boss is insecure about her appearance because she feels she only attracts creepy pedos by looking like a young child, so you have to be extra careful to remind her you genuinely love her underage looking body every time you thrust into her little holes.
Super 13 was odd.>Once Vegeta shows up, he takes over the next two fights, as he's the only selectable character during them, despite a scene putting emphasis on 3 super saiyans, you never have all of them in a team until the last match (Where they're all in base form so you have to transform individually)>Krillin despite getting random fights he didn't participate in previous arcs, doesn't get any here, even in the last match>Most half assed plot in the game (Which already half asses a lot) because 14 and 15 aren't in it
>>576764663Does it make her feel better to know that both the Universe 1 and the Univese 4 supreme kais mog her?
DONTCHU LECTURE ME WITH YOUR THIRTY DOLLA HAIRCUTGOHKU DAAIHS.
>>576766004We'll see about that, you Red Ribbon redneck.
>>576757216What about the EoZ one?>>576761250Legacy of Son Goku. Voila.>>576761057It's basically a miracle it had a huge roster at launch with how DLC-dependant games are nowadays.
>>576766004THE REST OF YOU CAN SHUUUUUUUUVIT
Reminding you all that they forgot to add Bergamo to Xenoverse 2
>>576767883>What about the EoZ one?I forgot about that one. It's good too.Really the only stinkers are the first two. Daima is alright-ish, just could have been way more. It actually should have just been a seperate game.
Imagine... Legacy of Goku Daima...
>>576766004Why did they make him sound like a redneck?
>>576769417they probably couldn't think of enough unique skills to justify having him be a new release people would have to pay for
>>576769417I hope they all the Trio de Dangers in 3. Basil's skills would let me finally make a Sanji CaC
>>576754663Realistically what could they show other than the customization that'd prove it's going to be huge? And I don't even think customization is going to be that big. It'll have bare-minimums like skinny majins and spiky SS hair, but I don't expect it to blow me away.
>>576770086Uchiyama love
>>576770086Why did Kibito talk so much shit to Gohan during this scene?Him pulling out that sword is basically their only hope at beating Buu but Kibito the entire time is just like>You can't pull that shit out>You suck man, no one has ever been able to do it>It's disrespectful as shit you're even here right now on our planet>You're a bitch
>>576770337kibito's a dick
>>576770226>and spiky SS hairI'm still going to be pissed if they didn't make different hair variants for SS2 and SS3. There's literally no reason why they can't.
>>576770337he's a bitch
>>576749809I saw the thumbnail and got flashbacks to pic related.
>>576770337Kibito is just really racist. Toyotaro even made a joke about it when Shin was asked if he knew of any gods who were racist towards mortals.
>>576770749Damn Kaioshin almost got Kibito killed
>>576770749Is this why he wasn't included in the DLC?
>>576769980It's like the easiest one you could make into that kind of game. Also GT but we got Transformation because reasons instead.
What would Kakarot 2 even be about?
Lmao Broly's arc has the most extra characters recruitment yet (Chaozu, Yamcha, Yajirobe, Chaozu again), so you can have them defeat Broly instead of super saiyans. It's either a joke, or someone in the dev team wanted Broly to be humiliated in the story mode. Too bad it's not in every fight... Also despite characters teaming up all the time against Broly in the movie, here, despite the narrator saying they fought together, it was either 1vs1, or 2vs1, probably to keep it varied since it'd be very repetitive to do team fights with the same characters against Broly like 5 times... Which actually makes it less repetitive than the movie.
If the Super manga does continue one thing I will miss other than Toriyama himself is spotting his corrections
>>576771057yes, we can't have people that were racist against Goku in our games
I wonder how Toyotaro's art has evolved since the hiatus. It's sorta hard to tell with the monthly(?) drawings that get posted since he does them in his hyper-detailed fujo style, not his Dragon Ball style.
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>>576772784cancel frieza
I really want to know what was going through the developers heads when they thought it was a good idea to make the AI literal cheating omnipotent gaming gods. Multiple mechanics are just straight up useless now like super attacks and charged attacks because the AI will block or perfect vanish it 9/10 times.
https://files.catbox.moe/d92j3w.webm
>>576773064Super attacks still work, but lifting strike along with most rush combos feel like a coin flip most of the time. Makes it kind of tough to do anything flashy.
Is there any point at attempting to play with a faulty PS5 controller SZ?The left joystick is crazy.
>>576773964>Freeza is clearly chuckling>Change it to make him speak a made up languageWhat the fuck?
Look who I found in Squadra.
Jesus I forgot SSJ3 Goku can reflect super attacks back at you now
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>>576770080Here's an easy moveset for Bergamo:>Double Knuckles>Claw Combo>Dangers Triangle>Dangers Beam>Triangle Dangers Beam (Ultimate)>Giant Form (Transformation)>Wolfgang Penetrator (Giant Form Ultimate)
>>576773064>what's in their heads"It's 2 years since the game release, the people playing this are either returning (bonus missions help loosen muscles) or veterans (can handle the hell we're throwing)">Super AttacksFirstly rush ones have what I consider"cursed consistency", where sometimes, especially if the AI is trying to get to an ult, they'll try to perception it and eat it raw or just work in weird ways. That weird way being when using it close-up as a punish for the AI (such as after flying kicks/light kiai cannon to get into the right mindset, I've sometimes used them as a punish for super perception), works really well with unblockable beam ults like SS2 Cabba. Alternatively some AI will happily do super duels if you get into far range (Whis/Beerus/Champa).>Heavy Smashes/Rolling Hammers/Lifting StrikesSway-in is my best consistency? It's not 0% but still feels like 20% or so, and yeah forget the smash attack option (so rip Max Power Master Roshi for example). Also try sweeping strikes, instead of just lifting strikes. Not really consistent but I've had it work from time to time.
>>576751295Play the base game first and if you like it, buy or pirate the DLC.It's an okay experience, but not very replayable desu.>>576754363>Damn. Is Sparking Zero aiming to be infinite DLC too despite the big one that just came out?No one knows.Anons here like to joke about a Meteor DLC (a DLC named like BT3 following Super Limit-Breaking Neo that is named like BT2), but in reality no one knows what comes next for SZ outside of bugfixes, potential balance patches and such.
>>576758016>is that limit break neo dlc the only one worth getting for SZ?If you don't like DBSSH or Daima which is what the big 3 DLC packs that were released before Super Limit-Breaking Neo were based on? Yeah.>what's actually all in it anyways?33 new characters, some new and returning costumes, a few ultimate attacks, some new stages, an improved implementation of BT3's Sim Dragon with a different name, a few new mechanics (Chain Blast and Sparking Boost) and 4 new story campaigns.
>>576771185Super.They already have... well, whatever the 1st DLC is supposed to be and then the 2nd one which was pretty close to RoF.They can just adapt the Tournament of Destroyers and keep going from there adding intermission arcs for exploration and side quest purposes inbetween each Super story arc, just like they already did for the base story of Kakarot 1.
>>576730397This is insanely cool.>>576733736WTF is even going on? Last I checked they had brought Gohan in Cold's body to their weird village.>>576736595Adorable and hot.
>>576751295I really like the ground combat in the DLCs
>>576746180Threadly reminder you can get all Sparking Zero DLC for free.https://github.com/ubden/CreamApi-CreamInstaller>B-b-but that's immoral and the developers worked really har-Bamco deserves it for their scummy business practices of not including the DLC to the people who purchased the Ultimate Edition of the game for $100+ and silently delisting the sale of it in replacement for a cheaper edition of the game w/ the DLC that costs less money.It's getting review-bombed right now because people who bought the game at launch with the edition that promised they'd get all future DLC are now expected to pay a whopping $140 in total on the game plus Neo DLC.IDC how much you like this game and feel that it's now complete, it's not worth $140.
>>576757216>I don't even remember who revived Frieza in thisGoku did in a main game sidequest.
>>576771284Based
>>576785852>the edition that promised they'd get all future DLCNever a thing
>>576786159Okay sure, I'll put an asterisk there then that it was all future dlc they had planned at the time*Either way it's pretty scummy, especially when the DLCs are almost entirely shit that should have been in the game in the first place (aka characters from the previous games)
>>576786343>the DLCs are almost entirely shit that should have been in the game in the first place (aka characters from the previous games)NEO has 33 characters total, 15 from the previous gameThe Season Pass has 27 and none of them from the previous gameLike, if you don't like the game and think it's not worth the money I get, but there's no need to go making up reasons
>>576785873kek really? Any context beyond Goku probably being wakuwaku?
>>576788328In the base you can revive pretty much every villain when you collect the Dragon Balls to have rematches against them at a higher level. They have a short dialogue when you first met them and then just stay at their location for you to fight at any time. The RoF dlc actually took this into account as the reason for Frieza to be back, and in even has a post-game quest where Goku revives him yet again
>>576788328The context was just Goku being like 'I wonder how Freeza's been doing in death, I'd like to beat his ass again, not like I can't stop him'.IIRC, Gohan or Vegeta brings back the Ginyus.
>>576785852>There are people in this thread who couldn't read
>>576789783>couldn'tJokes on you, I still can't!
We love Mai and Trunks here.
>>576787876>The Season Pass has 27 and none of them from the previous gameYou are correct, and I apologize.I was mostly referring to the Neo DLC with my frustration since I saw a lot of older characters from BT3 in that one and also thought I remembered characters like Super 17 coming out earlier than before.Either way my main issue is with the Neo DLC and me feeling like if you paid $110 (launch price) for the Ultimate Edition it should have came with this DLC instead of you having to spend another $35 more. Especially after getting the DLC for free myself and feeling like I would absolutely have been disappointed if I paid for it.The stuff they added is cool it's just absolutely not $35 worth of cool especially after spending an initial $110.
>>576759837Lol no. It's a fun game with lots of effort put into it>muh lore stupidXenoverse has been and IS using it for decades now. It's successful.
>>576785852Are people genuinely that retarded? They said you get the Season Pass, not all the DLC forever. How did people delude themselves into believing otherwise? What the fuck?
>>576758305There's WAY more to do in DBO than in Kakarot. You actually train your way in to participate in Budokais.
>>576790816You have to remember, Spike made Sparking Zero from scratch. This isn't like the old days where they built upon yearly releases, they had to restart the Tenkaichi formula after over a decade of not touching the series. The fact that the game shipped out with a roster of 182 plus a story mode from the get-go is unheard of for most games nowadays, even if some characters from the previous game didn't make the jump yet. Also, think about it this way: it took 3 games to get to Tenkaichi 3. Games were $60 a pop back then, so in the long run you would've probably payed $180 total after 3 years. The ultimate edition + the Neo DLC is $145 total, so technically speaking you got more bang for your buck with Sparking Zero already.Not gonna deny that Bamco is greedy though, because I know for sure more DLC is on the way, but we Dragon Ball fans have it good compared to other series. Remember, there are people spending $70 on 16-20 character rosters.
>>576784590I do wonder if they milk it like Xenoverse, what they'll call the DLCs after Meteor. Blast? Ultimate? Maybe eventually go full circle and all one of them Zero?
>>576794545>Hyper Limit Breaking Meteor>Ultra Limit Breaking Blast>Omega Limit Breaking Tag>Alpha Limit Breaking Kinect
>>576793287I just simply disagree with this business practice of stacking more DLC on top of more DLC when it comes to Dragon Ball games. Like saying we have it good compared to other series is just something I vehemently disagree with.I'm not spending hundreds of dollars to get the "full experience" with other gaming series.But with Xenoverse 2?Hundreds of dollars of DLCWith Kakarot?Hundreds of dollars of DLCWith Sparking Zero?Pretty close to the hundreds now.So yeah I just think it's ridiculous how much they milk each game, and I do sympathize with the review bombers for being pissed on having to spend nearly $150 on the game to get the supposed "full experience" even if the fine print of the Ultimate Edition never technically promised NEO would be free for them.
>>576797215If you would be fine with waiting for an hypothetical Sparking Zero 3 to have all content instead of buying dlc you can also not buy it on release and wait for a sale. Wasn't the base game just 50% off before Neo came out? And I don't care about Xenoverse but it just had an extreme sale with the game at like 2 dollars, so how much was it to get the game plus all dlc during that? Still more than 60?
>>576797215That's the thing, what do you mean "full experience"? I've said this in the past, the base game alone has more content in it than most games nowadays, especially other fighting games. Like take the DLC out of the equation, the game still came with 182 characters, a full story mode with what-if scenarios, a tournament mode that can be fully customized to your liking, and even a custom mission mode where you can create and upload your own what-if stories. Plus, they even added Survival and Mission 100 later on for free, plus we're supposedly getting even more free stuff later this year.Even if you didn't get the DLC, you still got a lot of stuff. DLC is just adding on top of that, not taking away from the base game. You wanna know a game who took away from the base game? Street Fighter X Tekken, that is a game that took characters away from the base game for it's DLC, because all of its DLC characters were not only in the files, but all fully playable at launch if you datamined them.
Why the fuck is fasha's en va turning me on so much...
>>576800113The pillow fight line?
>>576800113she's a sexy lady with a sexy voice
>>576797215As opposed to what? Reselling the game with a number at the end at full price?Releasing the game with 1 or no DLC so people can continue hating on it because their favorite scrimblo did not make it in?This is standard DLC practice and has been for over a decade now why is dragon ball any different?I am not surprised the average dudebro and spic assume the ultimate edition would have literally every dlc ever made because dragon ball is like the fucking madden of anime and these people cant read for shit or comprehend game dev, many of them are doubling down rather than conceding their mistakesIf a game is super successful and active like xenoverse then DLC is often the best choice especially the further as you go.If you release enough DLC for an arena fighter like this then its hard to justify a sequel because normies only see these games for their roster counts unlike fighting games, a normie is less likely to pick up XV3 over XV2 when they see theres like 60 characters missing in 3 which is precisely why they are changing up 3 so much to try avoid comparisons and focus it more as a coop squad game with streamlined cooldowns and such (which i think ultimately will bite them in the ass).Its also part of why games like payday 3 and killing floor 3 bomb, they release in a crappy state but theyre also a sequel to something with a fuckload of content.Why make a world of warcraft 2 when it will launch with practically nothing in comparison.It only works with sparking zero because theres a huge gap since the release of BT3
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>>576803652Seripa buns
>Panzy has to fight Black as her final boss In Limit Breaker JourneyI never thought she and Goku Black would have a special Interaction but god damn she was way too low level for me to manage that even with 10 points In defense
>>576809473Cute
>>576809635Yee, Panzy Is adorable
>>576809081God I wish Fasha was canon...
>>576810805She technically is, some of Bardock's team show up in the background in the manga and DBS Broly IIRC.
>>576810805She is tho
>>576811164Close enough i guess
Our Time Patrol researchers are hard at work developing counters to the dangers you might encounter in various timelines
>>576815246Insanely kino
>>576815246that's actually a pretty cool idea
Damn Gotenks looks Mexican as fuck in XV2
>>576817461He's as obnoxious as one too
>>576817931He's always a lil gremlin
>>576816320>>576816687Thanks! I really like thinking up weird ways different abilities can interact like that
>>576818108
>>576771398What is it here
>>576821595Goku himself
>>576809473Final boss or secret boss? Tao has Hit as his final boss (which is fucked even though it makes sense). Kind of hoping for a lower DP secret boss.
>>576771398I remember how odd the Beerus at the end of that very same chapter was and automatically realizing it was a Toriyama's panel. I'm gonna miss that stuff too
>encounter someone as Broly who he has never met before >clearly says in Japanese "dare da omae wa?" >Dub: "Oh, it's you"Why?
>>576825198It's fun(imation)
>>576827341easy access
>>576827341I don't like seeing you in it either.
>>576833780kek why is Goku like this?
>>576839856completely rational reaction of wanting to erase that mistake Trunks
Over nyan thousand
>>576833780Trunks' hesitance was so weird given how time travel was explained to work.
>>576850225He still wanted a version of himself to be born
>>576848572You forgot the Neko Arc pic
>>576850225You still wouldn't want to prevent your birth even if it's an alternate timeline
>xv2 updatewhat is it now
>>576850425Says who?
>>576850225He didn't know time travel worked like it did until the more blatant differences started to show up. Just showing up would have poofed him into nothingness if it worked like he thought because paradoxes and yadayada.
>>576851417Trunks
>>576823687Speaking of Tao, does he have any interactions with Mr Satan?
Looks like even saiyans mew sometimes
>>576823687Black Is just the final boss for Panzy but holy shit Hit might be an even more impossible feat for someone like Tao. I'm pretty new to the mode so I didn't know secret boss was a thing...I wonder what It would be Instead of Black for Panzy
>>576855743Panzy is so cute
>>576855802Yeah she Is! I love her...shame the Daima cast didn't really do much and likely never will unless the super manga comes back
Do you guys think XV3 is going to include the Daima demon realm?
>>576809942if only she became goku's second wife.....if only...
>>576857235I fucking wish. Also going off of how strong Mira Is a saiyan and demon hybrid would be stronger than the saiyan and human ones...not to mention the fact demons live for hundreds of years if not pushing a Millennium.
>>576857235>>576861239John 1000 is Goku and Panzy's son>butit was revealed to me in a dream, Toriyama was there
>>576861239Plus, it'd be a chance to make Xicor canon.
>>576857081I really hope so, it would be stupid to not include the demon realm considering Towa, Mira, and Fuu. The age that Xenoverse 3 takes place in 1000 Is the same as Dragon Ball Online which was the first game to Introduce Towa. There's also the Dark Empire and Demigra army which Introduced other demon characters related to Towa like Putine and Salsa. It's a good sign that we have seen that Idol who is either a demon or glind In Xenoverse 3 and I'll be kind of upset If we won't be able to create a demon realm CaC for demons and Glinds/Kais
>>576865047Goku Black is already canon.
>>576857235>>576861239>>576862094>>576865047You sure you want to go through this again?
>>576866389No no no, you don't get It. This time Goten Is going to fuck Panzy and their son or daughter will be the strongest
>>576868409Do you want to bet on that?
>>576770549Did not see a option to transform into ssj2 during the demo it seemed to only be 1 and 3
>grandpa gohans midboss is great ape vegetalmao
>>576874552There's three different mid-bosses, an end boss and a secret boss.Which mid-boss did you pick? White, yellow or red?
>>576879796its his yellow one
>>576824116Vegeta about to get assaulted by Bulma, Bra and Future Trunks
>>576883613>and Future TrunksNo! Stop thinking about Trunks that way!
>>576883929
>>576883929Whatever could you mean, anon?
>>576884208No!>>576884241NO!Trunks is not for your gross fantasies! He is a handsome straight man who is meant for Boss!
>>576884605He's the center of sexual jokes like his mom
>>576884605Trunks was never for Chronoa
>>576884605>Trunks is meant for Chronoa>when she lusts after Bardock and GokuChronoa SETTLES for Trunks, anon. She'd ditch him for a better man if she wasn't such a girlfailure.
Chronoa didn't even settle for Trunks. She settled for her senpai.
>>576884938He is NOT!>>576885272>>576885684>>576885792Wrong, wrong, wrong! Trunks and Chronoa are meant to be together!
Toriyama said no.
>>576886153Whatever you say, bro.
>>576881163always love to see her in that outfit
>>576886219canon
>>576884605>>576886219>>576887997While I agree that Trunks Is straight It's really lame that Sparking Zero removed General Blue's lines flirting with EVERY version of Trunks. Hell In bt3 he was such an obvious mega faggot that his Intro with every female character was disgust and now he's just a generic army grunt...
damn ningen
Please god put Putine In xenoverse 3
>>576891237only if Robelu gets in
>>576889337His flirting and attraction to younger boys was anime only, in the manga he's gay but very serious about being a soldier.
The boss took her anger out on Trunks after that whole Crystal BS, I'm not sure what all happened but Trunks needed multiple senzu beans after that, Chronoa looked uncharacteristically calmer though
>>576857081If they do, it'll probably be as barren and boring as it was in the anime (and Kakarot). Someone really needed to flesh out what Toriyama had created.
>evil SKoT will never ride you until you're a spent, pelvic pancakeThis world fucking sucks
>>576897203Which one? There's like 4 of them now
>>576898650All 4...if I die, I die
Do you guys think time travel is going to be in Xenoverse 3?
>>576899263Bulma's here so it pretty much has to. But Hirano pretty much confirmed that we won't be jumping to the past anymore. >Since, with time Patrol, we looked a lot at the past, we thought, what if we look towards the future, and what that story might look like?>the Xenoverse franchise is about protecting, and in Xenoverse 1 and 2, it is about protecting history. In Xenoverse 3, it’s about protecting the future>We wanted to jump into the future because Xenoverse 1 and Xenoverse 2 focused heavily on traveling to the past to fix history. For the third entry, we wanted to look forward.>Since our narrative is set entirely in the future, But he did infer that they still plan to have you recreate iconic battles >Since our narrative is set entirely in the future, how those classic, beloved historical clashes manifest within our campaign requires a very clever, logical explanationMy theory for time travel is that characters from different parts of the series, like Bulma, are stuck in Age 1000 for some reason. And my speculation for how they plan to do parallel quests and iconic battles and such is through simulations as boring as that sounds.
>>576899862>characters get teleported from the past to the future>they take the change in scenery in stride and decide to continue their fights anywayProfit.
>>576899862Personally I think that ring around Bulma's neck looking like an angel's halo Is a sign of something like artificial Immortality. All of the Z fighters became galactic patrol In super and became friends with a now former angel. It wouldn't surprise me If Bulma some how created a device that extends your lifespan by studying Merus or Whis.
>>576899862>as boring as that sounds.Dunno, make sense as training. That's even stuff the characters do canonically with image training.
>>576901892>some how created a device that extends your lifespan by studying Merus or Whis.Literally just ask Roshi for some of his Sennin immortality weed.Or the DBs really.
>>576902032>Literally just ask Roshi for some of his Sennin immortality weed.You're not wrong, Bulma would mass produce the Paradise Herb
>>576902032>Literally just ask Roshi for some of his Sennin immortality weed.That kind of immortality would make Bulma still age though, as she's more worried about her appearance.
>>576899862>>Since our narrative is set entirely in the future, how those classic, beloved historical clashes manifest within our campaign requires a very clever, logical explanationI truly hope those aren't mandatory to progress the storyI am tired of fighting Raditz while helping Goku and Piccolo for the umpteenth time
>>576903060>That kind of immortality would make Bulma still age thoughTao Pai Pai didn't age, Roshi is just being lazy with his Rejuvenation technique.
>>576904954Shame Toriyama never had the idea for a gag where Roshi is like 'Why wish for youth on the DBs? Just do that' and then turn young and handsome before turning back into an old man because he can get away with being a perv easier if he's old.
We mock Salad Gear's habit of how autistic Multiverse's gods are about "The dead should not interfere with the living". Months ago I found out that the very flawed reasoning for Ginyu to have complete control of Bra's body is a very weird misinterpretation of Goku's "Mind and body need to be in perfect synch" (Somehow Salagir interpreted that as "If you're pure hearted, Ginyu can't control your body"), and I feel the reasoning for Multiverse's "Dead shouldn't interfere with the living" comes from a similar misinterpretation of pic related. And it's just as weird of a misinterpretation if that's the case, because this is clearly Goku's personal decision, with no pressure from higher ups.
>>576906298Honestly at this level, it's not a misinterpretation, it's being fucking illiterate.
>>576793287>Games were $60 a pop back then$40 at most, Tenkaichi 1 started the PS2, you weren't paying $60+ for a PS2 game. That's 120 plus bucks by BT3 and that was no issue given the time and money you'd make and have by then.>>576797215You are okay to feel that way, and do not let some fanboys tell you otherwise, they have to justify their $100+ purchase and shame anyone who's being smart with their money.
>>576906298Bojack Unbound is another candidate for this misinterpretation, as Kaio says "Goku you're dead!", but doesn't specify why Goku shouldn't go, and later he claims Goku acted reckless. This would be another weird misinterpretation because at the end of the movie, Kaio doesn't even care and is just teasing Goku.
>>576906632It wouldn't be the first time.>Goku says you need mind and body to be in harmony>That is acknowledged by Vegetto>Multiverse Ginyu pulls a However. Turns out that's only a problem if your heart isn't pure for some reasonAnd there's also:>"No one gets strong without losing their kindness... That doesn't exist!"Lmao. Why's he so edgy?
>>576907698>Lmao. Why's he so edgy?Probably Salagir's retarded reading of 'Goku's heart wasn't pure anymore when he first went SSJ due to the rage'.Ignoring it wasn't even an issue by the Buu Saga.
>>576793287>Spike made Sparking Zero from scratch.Nonsense, UE5 engine means it's not from scratch. The stages look so freaking default and not even DB styled until this DLC finally added some.
>>576904954It's weird Tao is the only one who looks young, since Crane Elder looks old, and so does Baba.
>>576908856He seems to be the most vain of the group given the thing with his clothes so it make sense he's the only one who bothered to restore / conserve his youth.
>>576908950That makes a lot of sense!
>yamcha and tien episode modes don't start in og db despite all the necessary characters being there with the dlcLame as fuck
>>576903060>this was changed for consistency with dbsi'd murder this translator with a crowbar. it's the same guy who cried about our hero otokosuki, isn't he?
>>576910907I've said it before, but I think they did that because Goku's story mode doesn't have OG. So if he doesn't get it, no one does.
>>576799985>That's the thing, what do you mean "full experience"?I think if a DLC adds an entirely new game-mode that you miss out on by not getting it (aka NEO) then it's not the full experience.That's just the Sparking Zero example.In terms of Xenoverse 2 when it comes to the full experience and DLC, I mean, I think that one speaks for itself no?You have to buy an absurd amount of Xenoverse 2 DLC to get the full story. You have to pay extra to get the "full experience" of the story in Xenoverse 2.Sure you don't *need* to spend money, just like Sparking Zero. You don't technically *need* to spend the money to have a fun enough time with the base game like you said, but that does not make it a complete experience on its own.And then with Kakarot, sure you have basically the full DBZ story from start to finish if you just get the base game, but then there's add-on content that is at least another $100+ on top of it that goes over OG DB and Daima/Super.I'm not saying that Dragon Ball games should never have DLC added on or that all DB game DLC is stuff that should have been included in the base game,It's just clear as day that all Dragon Ball games are following this model of release an infinite amount of DLCs until the game is worth hundreds of dollars, and that is what I mean by the "full experience".
>>576912850>to get the full storyBase game had a full story, the DLC's stories are almost entirely unrelated.
>>576913035>Base game had a full storyYeah it's like you said, it's *a* full story, not *the* full story.As I said I wouldn't have an issue with DB games having a few DLC drops if the price and content ratio was overall reasonable instead of drip-feeding $15-30 worth of content DLC every few months or years until you have to pay literal hundreds of dollars to enjoy everything the game has to offer.At what point are you paying for additional content compared to content that should have just been included in the game? I think that would be a hard question to judge in normal game DLC circumstances, but when it comes to Dragon Ball games and you're spending waaaaaay more on all the DLC compared to other games, that question becomes a lot more relevant.
>>576913369>Yeah it's like you said, it's *a* full story, not *the* full story.That's just wordplay, that doesn't actually mean anything. XV2's base game doesn't give you an incomplete story you need the DLC to see the end of.
>>576913892I think you missed my point. I wasn't saying it was an incomplete story on its own without the DLC, it's just that the DLC adds so much on top of it to complete the story.Like, Fuu is a completely DLC character.You would have zero idea who he is unless you purchased the DLC.Am I saying that his story is important enough to the base XV2 game that I shouldn't have had to spend money on DLC and his storyline? No.But should you be paying LITERAL HUNDREDS (pic related) to get his full DLC story?And I don't even think it'd cost you the full $388.69 like the screenshot says since a few of those packs I think are just bundle deals on the other packs, but even with that in mind it's absolutely still a number that's in the hundreds.I get that it's over the span of 10 years for XV2 but it's just a pattern that keeps repeating itself for the other games that came after it and I don't like it.
Has anyone had any luck getting the secret boss In limit breaker journey runs?
>>576914443The only think I'm pretty sure of is that choosing the strongest boss in round 5 ups the chances of it appearing, may even be a requirement, but It's not guaranteed even if you do that. Also I think the secret boss is always at 1000 SP no matter what difficulty and level you are on
>>576917552>Also I think the secret boss is always at 1000 SP no matter what difficulty and level you are onDamn that's crazy. I don't think I'll ever manage the secret boss since I switch characters so much then
>>576914443Encountered SSB Goku and lost in seconds
>>576919596Who had ssb Goku as their secret boss?
>>576917552I think you have to be playing well (maybe fast clear times?) and have to beat the hardest of the mid bosses for the secret boss to appear. But their SP level is definitely inflated to the point that you would need to cheese them if you aren't max(?) level. Nam's secret boss is Ribrianne if anyone cares; he doesn't like fighting women. At SP ~150, the secret boss did not flinch at normal punches.
>>576899862>Since, with time Patrol, we looked a lot at the past, we thought, what if we look towards the future, and what that story might look like?To me that just sounds like an excuse to get rid of all of Xenoverse's original or DBO inspired content.An excuse to leave behind SKoT, Demigra, Towa and Mira, etc, etc.
How does perception vs a counter actually work in SZ? I think I've accidentally triggered the cutscene once, but I must be timing something incorrectly when I actually try to respond to the opponent's counter.
>>576903060>6 years ago>Changed for consistency with DBS>When DBS starts 4 years after the Buu Arc (Age 778), the Galactic Patrol Arc where they last met starts in Age 780 and EoZ happens in Age 784???
>>576907154being able to just teleport out of being dead is pretty crazy, it's no wonder kaio freaks out about ityardrat shit is OP
>>576931930It's mostly because Goku's insane ki sense too tho.
>>576886153Another Chrunks TRVKE
>>576906298>>576907154I think there are two things that are being mixed up. Goku's personal decision to not coddle the living and let them sort their mess out and it being straight up impossible for dead to come back without either getting revived or this 1 day in the world of living thingy (this is presumably what Vegeta used, hence why Baba was with him, like Goku earlier). Kaioshin geezer revives Goku so he can teleport to the battlefield and fuse with Gohan after he tells him he can't do it.
>>576907154Probably meant that he shouldn't be able to interfere without getting his 1 free day, but instead he somehow managed to get a punch in and carry Gohan to the ground, and was dragged back by some force instead of teleporting again. Second Coming has the same thing but through a wish.
Beginning the Sparking Zero story mode. Do the alternate branches where you have to defeat your opponent fast have any timer beyond the dialogue itself? Also I found weird the 1st Raditz fight didn't have one when I checked the map but the 2nd did. And I guess the camera switch to 1st POV during the cutscenes is kinda neat even if the rest are just stills.
This game was fun.Shame it never got a sequel..https://youtu.be/KtYMBxH8Sso?si=7XCp-vB-kE-I9Aqg
>>576936325It's going to be a great but at the same time terrifying day when AI is able to make an Attack of the Saiyans sequel at the push of a button.
>>576937476>Grok please give me stories to fill 9 chapters in the arc that consists of stealth (though that also applies to Cell)
Jiren gets "revealed" for Gekishin Squadra tonight. Do you think he'll be DPS or a Tank? He's on one of the Tank cards, but Kid Goku is also on a Technical card.
>>576939617He'd obviously be more fitting as a Tank, but so would Zly, yet he's a DPS, and not even a tanky one since he has worse defenses against energy attacks (Which's what the game's most powerful attacks have). I think he'll be a Tank, but, since Black turned out to be a Technical, it could go either way, since this could be another double DPS season.
>>576936325We need more Turn Based DB games, I'd love a Disagea-like too>>576939617Make him a technique with a meditation gimmick.
>>576790681Truth
Bump
How many characters' names are never mentioned?>Roshi (Actually called "Turtle Master" only in Japanese)>Baba>Crane Elder>Kaio>Elder Kaioshin>Zeno>Grand Priest>Nameless NamekianThere's also 17, 18, and Bulma's mother, but they all names in an interview at some point... Just noticed most gods are only referred by their title too.
>>576956313the gods of destruction and the angels all have names, as does zeno. I think by sheer mass most gods are named due to all of the universes super added.
>>576956313>>Nameless NamekianI mean, he was quite literally nameless, no? Like his dad didn't name him before he got sent offworld. Closest to a name he has is 'Son of Katatz'.
>>576956313old kai not having a name is weird to me. Shin and Kibito clearly have names, but Old Kai straight up solely introduces himself as "the kaioshin from 15 generations ago (let's not try and figure out how he knows this) and never gives a name. It's kind of weird
>>576956540I think Zeno is just a title though. It's literally "King of all".>>576957535Piccolo describes himself as "The Namekians who forgot his own name", so he did have a name, but Guru doesn't mention it for some reason, and Guru would probably know what it is since he knew the Nameless Namekian as a child well enough to know how powerful he'd be.
>>576957935Extremely funny how Piccolo does all this, gets his ass outplayed by cell, and then goes "you know what fuck this just go back to calling me piccolo" Colossal aura loss
>>576957935Kamiccolo-sama
>>576958065Toriyama dropped the ball with Piccolo's potential. Guru claims Piccolo should be so powerful that a regular saiyan killing him is unbelievable, and a super saiyan is what should be strong enough to kill him, and Nail says that if Piccolo had fused with Kami, he'd be capable of beating Freeza, so the story constantly talked about super saiyan and Freeza as the height of power, and Piccolo when fused with Kami should be among them. Once he does fuse with Kami, he's really powerful since he's 17's level of power, while saying 17's punches are weak (The same 17 who knocked out Trunks in one attack), but all he did was stall, get overwhelmed by Cell, and he just never catches up to the super saiyans again despite logically being capable to do so... And then Shin is said to be stronger than him, despite Shin being treated as a jobber who's likely weaker than base Goku.
>>576956313Crane elder? You mean Shen? Roshis former (friend?) and Mutaitos other star pupil
>>576960154Yes. In English dub he got a name like Roshi, but in Japanese he's only referred to by his title, also like Roshi (Turtle Hermit/Sage).
>>576962370>Crane Hermit's hat has a crane in itJesus Christ. I never realized that until now. I may need glasses...
>>576956313Muten is Roshi's name, he goes by Mutenroshi.
>>576926958Basically, yeah. Back before the delays, XV3 would've probably been a more straightforward sequel and expanded on what came before. But at some point, Toriyama got heavily involved and the project evolved into what it is now: a totally new story that shares gameplay similarities with XV. The Heroes/Xenoverse chuuni stuff probably didn't appeal much to Toriyama, and since it's been so long since DBO, a lot of it probably fell out of memory too. Honestly, with XV3 being set in Age 1000, I'm expecting its lore to essentially replace DBO's.
>>576809473Sex with Panzy...
>>576971234Chi-Chi is not that voluminous
>>576972469Wrong.
>>576971234Goku is so lucky
>>576956313Roshi is his name, retard.>NOOO IT MEANSI know what it means and yet it's his real name, we know that because he proved his identity as "Muten Roshi" by showing his driver license to Chichi.
Kaioken vanish into Final Flash is fun and flashy.
What do you think was the limit for a saiyan PL before being considered an upper class? Raditz' PL was over 1200 and he considered a PL of 334 weak but reasonable for a low class saiyan like his brother. Maybe you need something like 1000 to escape the low class category?
PL these dragon balls
So Xenoverse 3 will be at Gamescom starting August 24 and at New York comic con starting October 8What are you hoping for to be confirmed before you consider this game a must have? I honestly need the following saiyan CACs can have tails, real tails Rom's race needs to be added, I honestly don't now what to call the anymore since demon is apparently an umbrella term for them, namkikans, majins and pretty much everybody we've ever seen in the series with pointy ears, freaking 21 one transformed could fall under their terms because of that nowSaiyan CACs have super saiyan 4, I don't care if it's gt or daima i just want them to have it already considering how people begged for it for years with 2 and even modders couldn't get the form working after 10 years of playing with the game.show me those things and my money is yours, well a year after launch it will be, I only have a switch and thanks to current events I'll never be able to afford a PS5 or a Xbox
>>576992573Bare-minimum (will pirate or wait till it's available for practically pennies on sale otherwise like I did for Sparking Zero)>Every hair style having a distinct design for SS1-3, and 4 if they have it>interesting plot >DBO style epilogue lore (like Gohan writing a book on ki, Goten and Trunks starting a sword fighting school, etc), basically telling us what's happened these past 200 years >no more raditz to buu slop >mentors feeling like actual characters like they did that one time in DLC 6 instead of attack vending machines>characters that lived to Age 1000 like Piccolo and dende showing their age or in Roshi's case a new designExtremely surprised and will make me buy the day it comes out tier>the races that need it having original forms that the game made for them instead of just relying on the anime/manga>Glind race>the entire DB world being explorable plus extras like Namek and the Demon Realm instead of it just being West City>them somehow working around the real time combat issue and making characters look as good and expressive as DBL recently has been doing>destructive finishes like in Kakarot or FighterZ
>>576994379>>destructive finishes like in Kakarot or FighterZSpeaking of that, I really hope they improve the explosions. From what I've seen in that showcase is that when you shoot an energy beam or ball and it explodes, it's still the same small little cloud of smoke it was in 2. I hated that back then, it didn't really make the attacks feel all that ultimate. That French guy who made the DBRB3 project thing had the right idea and for all of Sparking Zero's faults, I'm glad the explosions at least looked like tha.tAlso the auras need to be better.
I'm sorry but most of the neo dlc characters feel soulless and rushed with no effort at all. You know It's bad when most of them have generic attack animations that look nothing like how they fight besides Supreme Kai. Salza doesn't even have expressions of all things! They also completely slaughtered Super 17 and Pikkon's techniques from bt3...the only characters I actually see myself playing much are Nuova Shenron, Supreme Kai, and Spike
>>576994379>DBO style epilogue lore (like Gohan writing a book on ki, Goten and Trunks starting a sword fighting school, etc), basically telling us what's happened these past 200 yearsPlease no that shit was so stupid and forced into DBO's lore just to poorly explain the MMORPG classes having access to certain skills.
>>576995134Half of these guys barely have any fights and what fight they did have were short and not too exciting. But hey, it's what the BT/Sp series is all about, right?
Been playing Kakarot. Its pretty fun but lotsa filler. Some stuff like acknowledging Launch is fun. Not sure I'll actually play the DLC.
I miss drawing Arinsu but I suck at drawing...
>>576959231>And then Shin is said to be stronger than him, despite Shin being treated as a jobber who's likely weaker than base Goku.Wasn't Piccolo just intimidated because due to fusing with Kami he instinctively knew Shin was higher in the god hierachy? Shin was scared of fucking Pui Pui.
>>576997103The Issue I have with them being soulless Is that Kuu, Duu, Glorio, and Panzy had a lot of thought and effort put Into both their melee animations and skills despite not doing that much fighting In Daima. Panzy despite never being in a real fight radiates soul In Sparking Zero and the other three are peak effort too
>>576997103>>577002823
>>576995134I haven't had major issues with them, but there is a lack of detail to some things that sticks out. Pretty sure Nam keeps his eyes open during the rush based on his attack vs Ranfan...which makes his voice line "I can see all" (or something like that) fall flat.
>>576939617He's a tank. He'll show us what overwhelming power looks like.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6lpr9SVQVM
>>577003345Moments like this I'm glad the game is dying
>>577001243It's both. Goku asks if Shin is that strong, Piccolo says yes, and Krillin is scared since he'd have to fight Shin next round.
>>577004023Seriously, it is so aggravating that we aren't even a year into launch and the devs are just copy pasting kits over and over. Dota is full of creative designs across all 127 heroes, League of Legends same thing with even more champs. All else fails port over those kits like they've already done with Kid Buu and all these area denial skills based on Aurora from LoL.
>>577003007I love this girl failure mom and her two retarded kids.
>>577008756>two retarded kidsSame but reminder Kuu Is actually a genius, he computes the massive string of numbers instantly In his head to get one of the dragon balls despite all the characters saying solving the equation was Impossible and a scam.
>>577010601Our King
>>577010601You can be a genius and still be retarded.
>>576956313as others pointed out Muten Roshi is a thing and if you don't count that you might as well not count Mutaito
>>576956313Gyumao/Chichi's father.
>>577011056You're not wrong...
>>576995327How the HECK the characters having a life is "so stupid" ?DBO did something Super was unable to for a decade.
>>577001243>Shin was scared of fucking Pui Pui.Pui Pui was probably stronger than the androids honestly. Just like fodder soldiers were stronger than Raditz on Namek and 19 was stronger than Freeza.
>>576965247Mutenroshi is a title, not a name.>>576976325That's the joke, even his driver's license just has his title.
>>577010601>Same but reminder Kuu Is actually a genius,Kuu has a high IQ but is a fuck up like his mom.
>>577016659The GTfag hates it for invalidating GT. That's it.
I just realized that Super Buu doesn't have a Piccolo costume in Sparking Zero and it's bothering me.
>>576764663God, she's so sexy...
>>576957870>Shin and Kibito clearly have namesI still don't think Shin is a name. I know some guy will pull up the Toyotaro Tournament of Power thing where that's given as his name but I believe Shin is only used as his competitive name in tournaments, like Ma Junior. And Daima agrees with me on this by saying Nahare is his actual given name equivalent to Zamasu and Gowasu.
>>577016956>Pui Pui was probably stronger than the androids honestlyThe problem is Pui Pui brags about living in 10x Earth's gravity and assumes this would cause problems for his opponents. This is the gravity of Kaio's planet
>>577019478>I still don't think Shin is a name.It was a name at the tournament, a name based on the fact he's a Kaioshin and not his real name but yeah, his name is Nahare.It's a similar situation to 'Majunior', where it's a name based on the Daimao title (which make it cool that Piccolo is the one who noticed Shin using the same trick) but not Piccolo's actual name.
>>577019680That's not really a problem because Goku still trains at 10x gravity even in Super, DB treat gravity like a permanent debuff you need to be used to to even move (which make sense because even your blood cells get much heavier with gravity) and that then work as a training gain multiplier once you're used to it.
>>577019680>>577019816Like remember Krillin and co having trouble with Kaio's gravity despite all being stronger than Raditz, who was born under 10x gravity?
>>577019816But that very fight shows 10x gravity is irrelevant to the characters at that point since Vegeta just starts hopping around. Pui Pui did not expect this, he sincerely believed him to struggle and be handicapped by the gravity, which puts him in the Saiyan Saga frame of reference for power.
>>577019908What, in filler? They never struggle in the manga.
>>577019919>But that very fight shows 10x gravity is irrelevant to the characters at that point since Vegeta just starts hopping around.Anon, the fight show Pui Pui's trick doesn't work because Vegeta was born on a 10x gravity planet too. Even Saiyan Saga Vegeta would have done the same.>Pui Pui did not expect this, he sincerely believed him to struggle and be handicapped by the gravity,Did you even read what I said?
>>577020026That's still an official showcase of what I'm talking about.
>>577020049Yes, Saiyan Saga Vegeta would have done the same because those characters scaled past 10x gravity. You have to be appreciably weaker than any Saiyan to be hampered by 10x gravity. Because Pui Pui thinks this is a big deal, he is within the same general frame of reference as Saiyan Saga characters.Where you were born does not matter, it is a strength barrier.>Did you even read what I said?Yes, what did you expect me to take away from it, you fucking retard?
Bulma looks like a Pokemon trainer.
>>577020227>You have to be appreciably weaker than any Saiyan to be hampered by 10x gravity.Already addressed that, learn to read.>he is within the same general frame of reference as Saiyan Saga characters.Already addressed that, learn to read. Hint: Shin disagree with you and so does how gravity is treated.>Where you were born does not matter, it is a strength barrier.Already addressed that. Saiyan Saga and Buu Saga both disagree.>Yes,You're clearly lying.>what did you expect me to take away from it, you fucking retard?That you're wrong and should apologize for saying nonsense on this thread, braindead faggot.
>>577020496You addressed and wrote nothing. This post is just complete schizophrenia and it is impossible to even meaningfully engage with this since it doesn't connect with reality at all. Pui Pui is Saiyan Saga level, have a nice day, retard.
>>577020227>>577020551>Point out something he clearly didn't understand>Get an accurate explanation that's perfectly cordial>Start sperging outFuck off with your headcanon.
>>577020580There was no "explanation", you actual troglodyte. The facts of this discussion could not be any more straightforward.
>>577020551>You addressed and wrote nothingI did here >>577019816 but you clearly didn't read it.>it is impossible to even meaningfully engage withAKA you have no counterargument and know you were wrong.>Pui Pui is Saiyan Saga levelShin, who can one punch Freeza and can help against a Perfect Cell level opponent disagree, as does the story.>I will now have a good cry, you meanie!Cry harder, braindead faggot.
>>577020635>Say it couldn't be more straightforward>Still sperged out when said straightforward facts were presented to him.Getting madder won't improve your headcanon.
>>577020685>I did hereWhat you wrote is completely irrelevant. The characters have all been fully used to 10x gravity since the Saiyan Saga, Pui Pui expects it to significantly hinder them and hypes himself up over being used to it, thus he is Saiyan Saga level.>Shin, who can one punch Freeza and can help against a Perfect Cell level opponent disagreeAnd is proven wrong since Pui Pui is completely negged with no effort.>as does the storyThe story where Pui Pui is fodder?Anon, this is embarrassing.
>>577020837>What you wrote is completely irrelevant.It is very relevant since it proves you wrong. Goku still finding 10x gravity a worthwhile training method in Super proves it doesn't work like you're claiming.>Shin thinks Pui Pui is strong compared to him is disproven because a stronger guy than Shin beat Pui Pui *insert powerscaler babble*That's not how it works.>The story where Pui Pui is fodder to people who think a Cell Jr is fodder so not Saiyan Saga at allYes, that story, the story that says you're wrongGlad you're feeling the shame you should from acting like that.
>>577020837It's incredible to see someone legitimately so dumb, they think it's not laughable that their own argument basically says post BOG Goku is Saiyan Saga level just because they used the word 'thus'.You realize that Shin knows Vegeta and Goku are stronger than Freeza at this point, right? And yet he was still worried about Pui Pui.
>>577020983>Goku still finding 10x gravity a worthwhile training method in SuperWhen does this even happen? Do you mean him training on Kaio's planet? He is very clearly not struggling with it. The gravity is never suggested as the reason for this.>That's not how it works.It is exactly how it works. Shin overestimated Babidi's underlings and underestimated Goku, Vegeta and Gohan. >the story that says [HEADCANON]There is nothing here that contradicts Pui Pui being Saiyan Saga level, while 10x gravity being considered relevant in the conversation at all strongly speaks against any level of power past that arc.>>577021069>post BOG Goku is Saiyan Saga level???>And yet he was still worried about Pui Pui.Kaioshin is like a grandma exaggerating the danger of everything. He is obviously wrong about his assessment of the threat and suggesting otherwise at all is such a wildly wrong reading of the text that it crosses from ignorance to malice.
>>577021279>When does this even happen? Do you mean him training on Kaio's planetWhy do you think he train under 10x gravity if it does nothing?>The gravity is never suggested as the reason for this.It's literally said he goes to Kaio's planet specifically for that.>It is exactly how it worksSaiyan Saga disagrees, Buu Saga disagree, Shin disagrees, Raditz, Vegeta and Nappa disagree. Better luck with your next headcanon.Shin know Goku, Gohan and Vegeta were stronger than Freeza and knew exactly how strong Freeza was, that still put Pui Pui way above your headcanon.>There is nothing here that contradicts Pui Pui being Saiyan Saga level,Except, you know, literally everything.>10x gravity being considered relevant in the conversation at allYou mean like it's considered relevant for DBS Goku's training?>stronglyAs in not at all.The story says you're wrong, get over it.
>>577021279Truly fascinating, he is so retarded, even when the implication of his nonsensical argument are pointed out to him, he still doesn't get it and just react like a chimp being presented with an Ipad.Or, much more likely, you're just wrong and Pui Pui isn't Saiyan Saga level and Shin wasn't just randomly scared by a dude weaker than Freeza, who he could one punch and who he knows Goku and Vegeta are stronger than? Notice how you can't address any of that?
/a/utists pretending to be mad over a dead guy making a character a joke in a gag manga
>>577021642>Why do you think he train under 10x gravity if it does nothing?He does not need a particular reason. But even if it gives a slight benefit, he is not hindered in his movement, he very explicitly overcame that in the Saiyan Saga. Pui Pui expects it to hinder Vegeta's movement to the point of rendering him combat-ineffective, which can only be true for sub-Saiyan characters.>rampant schizophreniaOK.>>577021750>Notice how you can't address any of that?I don't need to explain the plot for you. Kaioshin being objectively wrong about how Pui Pui scales to Vegeta & co. is factually true in the story and it is you who inexplicably bases your argument on his scaling being correct.
>>577021850You don't need to be saiyan saga level to be a joke in the Buu saga.
>>577019223Eh...she's used goods. Panzy Is sexier!
>>577021868>He does not need a particular reason.Cool, he still specifically has one.> But even if it gives a slight benefitSo it's still relevant at higher levels of power and prove you're wrong about how it works and what it means? Good.>All those arguments are correct and I'm mad I can't counter a single oneI noticed.
>>577021997>So it's still relevant at higher levels of powerNo, 10x gravity does not hinder the movement of characters who are at least as strong as common Saiyans in any way. You keep trying to make this about whether it's slightly beneficial for training, which is completely unrelated.
>>577021868That's a lot of words just to say 'I'm wrong and I know it'.Why would you explain the plot that disagree with you to me?Shin was wrong about him being a threat to Vegeta, he wasn't wrong about Pui Pui being dangerous to Shin himself and above the level he thought Vegeta and co were (IE above Freeza), there's nothing inexplicable about it and if everyone get it except you, you're the problem.
>>577022075>No,Goku disagrees with you, better luck in your next cope.>You keep pointing out objective facts proving you're right about how gravity is treated in DB and it make me shit myself in a rageI noticed. Sorry your headcanon is wrong.
>>577022096>he wasn't wrong about Pui Pui being dangerous to Shin himselfHe almost certainly was. Kaioshin had already seen SSJ2 Gohan at this point, he is simply delusional.>>577022173>Goku disagrees with you???
>>577022075>it's slightly beneficial for trainingHow could it be beneficial to the training if it hinders nothing? Did you think before typing that?
>>577022270By presumably requiring the person to use slightly more power to move. Notice how this is distinct from requiring more power than the person has, thus hindering their movement.
>>577022230I think I'm gonna take Shin's word about his own word over yours. You're clearly the delusional here.'The entire story is lying!' is not a sane argument.
>>577022367>I think I'm gonna take Shin's word about his own word over yoursWeird, since he is explicitly proven wrong in the same chapter, but okay.
>>577022329>By presumably requiring the person to use slightly more power to move.If it require BOG Goku to put in more effort, how the fuck would it mean only a Saiyan Saga character could think being used to that gravity is an advantage on an enemy that isn't? Again, do you think before typing?
>>577022396Show me when Shin is shown to have been wrong about Pui Pui being a treat to him. I'll wait.It's not weird at all since you're just inventing nonsense.
>>577022230>???Is that all you can say whenever you lose the argument completely and give up?
>>577022429>If it require BOG Goku to put in more effortMore power is always required to push a heavier mass than a lighter one. This is true regardless of how strong the person is. This doesn't mean that it is difficult for the person in any way.>how the fuck would it mean only a Saiyan Saga character could think being used to that gravity is an advantage on an enemy that isn't?Because the last time any character was challenged by movement in 10x gravity was the Saiyan Saga, and it does not pose a problem to anyone since then.>>577022518>Show me when Shin is shown to have been wrong about Pui Pui being a treat to himIt is not necessarily shown, but there is no reason to cast doubt on him being stronger than Freeza.>>577022605It is the only appropriate response to bizarre non-sequiturs.
>>577022429Dude thinks there's a level where inflicting a % based stat debuff on your enemy stop being useful.
>>577022720By what percentage do you suppose Vegeta's power was reduced in 10x gravity?
>>577022701>More power is always required to push a heavier mass than a lighter one.So the gravity means nothing about Pui Pui being Saiyan Saga or not because it'd always be an advantage on an enemy who's not used to it.You just conceded your entire argument.
>>577022813>it'd always be an advantage on an enemy who's not used to itAnd every character has been "used to it"(strong enough to be unhindered by it) since the Saiyan Saga. The only reason Pui Pui would think this is impressive is if he is still within that realm of power.
>>577022772None, because he had the 'high gravity adaptation' trait, that's the entire point of that scene. If Vegeta had never faced 10x gravity, he'd have had a stat debuff the entire fight.Same way the Trio De Danger's poison was an issue because nobody was used to it and then was useless cause they just found a way to make it not work anymore.
>>577022865>And every character has been "used to it"'every character' here just being the Saiyans.>(strong enough to be unhindered by it)You just conceded your entire argument again by trying to redefine terms.>The only reason Pui Pui would think this is impressive is if he is still within that realm of power.Or, you know, people used to 10x gravity are rare and it's a generally effective home advantage like Yakkon's darkness planet?
>>577022701So it never happened, glad we could make that clear.Cool so Shin is stronger than Freeza, know Vegeta and Goku are stronger than Freeza and Pui Pui is a threat even to people stronger than Freeza.
>>577022701>It is indeed my one and final admission of defeat and everything you said was 100% correct and I was wrongGlad you could admit it.
>>577022931>had the 'high gravity adaptation' traitWhat manner of schizo headcanon is this? What the actual fuck are you talking about?Nobody at Vegeta's level of power would suddenly fall to the ground and struggle to get up in 10x gravity. The point of gravity training is getting stronger, which is reflected in being able to move in that gravity normally, not to get a special "gravity resistance" video game trait. Meanwhile, you have samefagged 4 times in a row because you were impatient from me going afk momentarily. The way this debate is mentally breaking you makes me feel bad.
>>577023459It's not a headcanon, it's explaining what happened in video game terms so you can understand it better because you're clearly lacking IQ wise and other people's attempts to explain the obvious to you normally didn't work.>Everyone who disagree with me is the same person!Take your meds. Nobody is debating you, this isn't your cringe deathbattle subreddit.
>>577023572He's just screaming samefag so he doesn't have to respond to all the other arguments tearing his nonsense apart. Don't bother.
Nice summation of why Shadow Dragons don't work.
>>577023572There is no "gravity adaptation" trait, this is completely made up. Movement in high gravity is a function of power level and nothing else. You implicitly agree with this since your argument revolves around Goku training in 10x gravity with the intent of getting stronger, not to "adapt" to a gravity he "adapted" to decades ago.
>>577023920It's not made up, it's a simple explanation of the situation in video games terms cause you're too retarded for normal explainations.I don't agree with you in any way, implicitly isn't a magic word that just change the meaning of 'agreeing'.
>>577024058Gravity movement is not a separate stat from general power, and your argument that Goku is training on Kaio's planet in Super can only begin to make sense if you also affirm that. Otherwise, you have negated your own argument.
>>577024121High gravity isn't a stat, it's a status effect, you're in a video game thread and don't even understand video game terms. Holy shit.I didn't negate shit and I didn't make this argument, you sperg. Go argue with the person who made that argument instead of praying I say something that make you feel better about this humiliation due to me not even knowing the argument you're seething about.
>>577024340>pretends his split personalities are different people to avoid the argumentYou are quite possibly the most retarded person I have ever debated on this site, congrats.
>>577024409Take your meds and stop crying. There was no debate.
>>577024481There was a disagreement about Pui Pui's power level, which obviously plots somewhere in the Saiyan Saga, and all opposition to this fact has gradually fallen apart over the past hour in this thread.
>>577024552Nobody disagreed, the consensus was immediately that you were obviously wrong and it was explained to you.It has 'fallen apart' and yet you're the one who stopped responding and addressing points, like you just did with the status effect thing.Because you know you're wrong and now you're just throwing an offtopic tantrum to try and bury it.
>>577024657>the consensus was immediatelyOne guy disagreed because he takes Kaioshin's paranoid word as gospel, but it is obviously false when you read the chapter to its end. In the actual wider world, Pui Pui is commonly agreed to be Saiyan Saga tier, you can google "Pui Pui scaling" for a sample of that.>you're the one who stopped responding and addressing pointsI addressed every point, I only do not bother to respond to repeats and incoherent schizobabble that one cannot even engage with in principle.
>>577024768'Everyone is the same person!' won't change what actually happened.So the actual characters and the actual story say you're wrong? And you're mad people care about what they say over your fanfic? So sad.'You can find my respect thread!' Lol, it was just a VSfag being butthurt his fanfiction about Pui Pui got dismissed.Addressed every point except the points you can't address and ran away from lmao.
>>577025002>the actual characters and the actual storyKaioshin is objectively wrong. This is not a unique reading of mine, that is the story. >Lol, it was just a VSfag being butthurtThere are numerous threads on different websites across decades talking about this. That VSBW thread actually high balls Pui Pui beyond what I asserted, though still far lower than the Android-level estimate I initially responded to.>Addressed every point except the points you can't addressWhich point do you want me to address that you think I haven't?
>>577024768>but it is obviously false when you read the chapter to its end.I read the entire arc and none of it say Pui Pui was saiyan saga level and everything says he was at least around Shin's level. What's your excuse now?
>>577025113I think I'll take the story over your incoherent meltdown, I don't care how many voices agree with you in your head.So you confirm this was just VSfaggism and thus completely worthless and proven wrong by the story.All of them. Address all the arguments you ran away from.
>>577025119>none of it say Pui Pui was saiyan saga level
>>577025113>the Android-level estimateSounds accurate to me. Shin can one punch Freeza and Shin think he needs back up to fight Pui Pui.And Yakkon wasn't in one shot range for Buu Saga base Goku so it's consistent with the level of Babidi's other minions.
>>577025204>I think I'll take the storyThat would be nice, since the story agrees with me.>So you confirm this was just VSfaggismIt is ultimately powerscaling, sure.>Address all the argumentsWhich specifically? >>577025279See >>577025228
>>577025228Losing to Buu Saga Vegeta doesn't say Pui Pui is Saiyan Saga level and surviving a blow from him actually prove the opposite.It's very embarrassing for you to try a mic drop and fuck it up that bad.
>>577021886good thing I didn't say anything on the subject matter one way or another
>>577025336>No uIt finally sunk in that the story disagree with you and it hurts? Good.Good, VSfag, this entire mental breakdown on your part can now be safely laughed off and ridiculed even more.All of them, learn to read.
since there's obviously daima influence in xenoverse 3 do you think the plot will involve the demon realm's dragonballs? honestly, it's kinda cracked how many dragonballs there are in the story now, we have earth's 7, namak's 7, the multiverseal 7, the demon realm's 3 and planet cereal's 2, through as far as the story left it Minato sealed them away after Granola used them restore the planet's surroundings they destroyed during their battles, I don't know if Granola deemed to reverse the wish on himself to get his life span back, if he didn't do that he's dead 2 years after Goku flies off with Uub, but given this is Dragonball he probably did, his race only lives about 150 years total normally so if he did so he'd have around 100 years left of life, I'm rather curious how long Merus has to live as a mortal, his race is still that of an angel but he no longer has the life span, Whis confirmed he still has his ultra instinct,too.Through I suppose these questions are rather nil since Granola and Merus will likely never appear again in a new story much like Glorio and Panzy, who also have long life spans, we don't know how old Glorio i but Panzy's already in her 80s, now that I think on it, I wonder what the life span i for Freiza's race, he's been unchanged from bardock's time to the current day he hasn't aged physically at all.Did they ever confirm the Bulma in xenoverse 3 is THE bulma and not a descendant? same goes for Gamma 1, he has Gamma 1000 on his chest in the demo
>>577025336I saw it and confirm what I said, Android Saga level make sense. Especially since this confirm Vegeta didn't just one punch Pui Pui.
>>57702535710x gravity is the level that was last relevant in the Saiyan Saga. Vegeta remarks on how pathetic this is, and immediately obliterates Pui Pui. Saiyan Saga is the most intuitive reading of this, since a significantly stronger person would not think 10x gravity is anything impressive.>surviving a blow from him actually prove the oppositeMr. Satan survives blows from Kid Boo in this arc, the characters are not striking with intent to kill immediately in those moments.>>577025439>All of themWe have argued and I have been addressing points for close to 2 hours now. I am continuing to do so as we speak in this very reply. What arguments specifically do you think I need to respond to?
>>577025529>Android Saga level make senseWhy would an Android Saga level fighter think 10x gravity is a big deal?>Especially since this confirm Vegeta didn't just one punch Pui PuiHe vaporises Pui Pui with one attack on the page.
>>57702553210x gravity isn't a level, it's purely an autistic hang up you have.No, your 'reading' isn't 'intuitive' and contradict literally everything everyone does.Vegeta literally had the intent to kill Pui Pui so that doesn't work either.So yeah, your mic drop sucked. Literally all you're doing is going 'But muh gravity, saiyan saga!' over and over regardless of what anyone else said.
>>577025639Because he's used to it and other people are not, everyone who's faced by higher gravity in the franchise so far for the first time struggled with it.Same page also show Pui Pui damaged but alive from Vegeta's previous attack. Did you even read the actual fight?
>>577025532Nobody argued with you, you were sat down and people took turns explaining the story to you as you screeched and screamed.No, you're not, you keep dodging stuff just to reset the argument back to points where you were less cornered and make people repeat themselves.There's literally entire posts you completely ducked from multiple people and you even ducked the status effect thing after you fucked up.>>577025465I don't think so but I think the idol girl will be on Earth because Kuu re-opened the demon realm by age 1000.
>>577025714>10x gravity isn't a levelGravity multipliers are used to illustrate the progression of a character's power in their training in three arcs. Pui Pui brings it up with the same understanding here.>Vegeta literally had the intent to kill Pui Pui so that doesn't work either.So you believe Pui Pui was actually too strong for Vegeta to one-shot earlier? Thus far nobody had even dared to deny that Pui Pui is fodder, they just asserted that he was much stronger fodder. But this is unprecedented delusion.
>>577025532>Saiyan Saga is the most intuitive reading of thisIf you need to fight for your life for hours and call characters crazy while pretending they're freaking out over characters they can one shot, your reading is NOT intuitive at all.
>>577026000>fight for your life for hoursThe samefag I have been fighting is doing this, presumably because his ego got wounded after I pointed out the retardation of his thinking. Now I continue only to further torment him.>call characters crazyKaioshin is objectively wrong in how he scales characters in the Boo arc, this is not me somehow insulting the character or reading my perspective into it.
>>577025974No, it's not, it's used to illustrate a better training method with higher gains that the characters literally never stop using.No, Pui Pui bring it up with the understanding of 'I was born here, you were not', he literally SAYS so. The irony being Vegeta was ALSO born on one and has done 100x gravity.If Vegeta had used a stronger attack, sure but clearly Pui Pui can survive a punch and we're talking about a saga where everyone can one punch kill Freeza and probably 19 and 20.I understand you're giga mad I'm putting your feet to the fire right now and you're not usually allowed to insult people when they spank you in your gay little powerscaling communities but it's no reason to get that salty.
>>577026107Nah, you're clearly the one fighting for his life here, especially now that you're reduced to going 'I'm shitting up the thread with my nonsense on purpose out of spite'.It very much is you insulating the character and forcing your perspective into it since at no point was Shin stronger than someone he deemed a threat, if anything it was the exact opposite and everyone he thought was stronger than him were stronger than him to a much greater extent than he thought.
Luigischizo hours
throughout all of xenoverse 2's run did they ever acknowledge Fu as Towa and Mira's child in story? I know the only time we ever heard the supreme kai of time referred to as Chrona was some dialogue from elder kai, I think it's one of the parallel quests or the conton city event, even when they brought back those two for the final DLC the one bit of dialogue they have is wanting to kill us, they don't acknowledge Fu at all and he doesn't give a shit he's sending his parents to a void of nothingness
>>577026107>Now I continue only to further torment him.There's the 'I was only pretending to be retarded' lmao.
>>577026340>throughout all of xenoverse 2's run did they ever acknowledge Fu as Towa and Mira's child in story?I don't think so, no.
>>577026164>No, it's not, [repeats what I said]Not even a refutation, just pretending to disagree to fill the quota or something.>The irony being Vegeta was ALSO born on oneYou're reading the birth aspect into it, the point is that 10x gravity is a level that all these characters have left far behind in the past already. Pui Pui is no longer relevant as a threat.>>577026292>forcing your perspective into itAt what point is Kaioshin's paranoia about Babidi's underlings vindicated?>>577026391I am far more intelligent than you.
command grab
>>577026519So you just confirmed your entire argument was wrong.I'm not, Pui Pui literally says it word for word, there's 0 'reading into it' here. You are forcing your nonsensical and unsupported 'level' headcanon there when it clearly doesn't fit.I accept your concession on every point you dodged BTW.
>luigi melty again
>>577026519Spopo and his friend grabbing Gohan.Dabura being a threat.Not fighting Majin Vegeta.Buu.All of them he was 100% on and all of them except Spopo and friends were exactly at the level he said or above.The only thing Shin was wrong about was how strong Goku, Gohan and Vegeta were (thinking they were only above Freeza, which already debunk your Pui Pui headcanon), he was never wrong about how strong the opponents were or where they stood compared to himself, except in cases where the gap was even wider than he thought.You will not find a single moment where Shin is scared of someone and then easily beat them.
>>577026594>>577026787Obvious samefag is obvious
>>577026519>I am far more intelligent than you.If you have to say it, it's not true.
>>577026809You already tried that schizo cope earlier, take your meds. Don't make me get the Metal Cooler pic.
>People are unironically talking with a dude who admitted he's from VS Battle Wiki>It ruins the threadImagine my shock.
>>577026565Custom grabs could be kino in XV3
>>577026594>Pui Pui literally says it word for wordAnd Vegeta doesn't, which is what we are talking about. The dialogue only points out how unimpressive 10x gravity is, in general.>every point you dodgedYou still have not been able to name any of these, which I would gladly address if you were able to describe any.>>577026787>Spopo and his friend grabbing Gohan.Kaioshin paralysed Gohan to facilitate this, obviously Spopovich and Yamu were weak and nobody supposed they were a threat.>Dabura being a threat.Not all that much. Goku and Vegeta could have handily beaten him. This is an overrating of Gohan more than anything.>Buu.Boo was weaker than expected in terms of power level(Vegeta remarks on this. He also pulverises him shortly after, failing to kill him only due to Boo's regeneration factor).The rest are not scaling related.>>577027078Nobody said this though, the existence of a VSBW thread was acknowledged in the context of a Google search, but I and hopefully everyone else here do not have an account there and never used the site.
I hope they do more out of the box games, I never expected a isometric survival DB game or a MOBA. I don't think they're good but if they keep trying new things we're going to get something really cool eventually. We've got to get a musou game eventually. Fusions and Attacks of the Saiyans were awesome.
>>577032428A vampire survivor and SRW-like / Disgaea-like are up there on my list personally.A CRPG would be cool too.
>stamina breaking Kefla during Ultra time patrol completely breaks the AI into standing there until you get closepretty funny stuff
>>577018914That reminds me, I never tried those mods that add a shit ton of absorption forms to Super Buu including Piccolo's.I downloaded it but never really checked it out.I wonder if they still work with the DLC...
>>577017028Roshi = Master or what people use today, Sensei Mutenroshi = Muten Master, or Sensei, Muten-SenseiIt's a title, but Muten is the closest thing to a name in the context of Roshi, which is Master. Master Roshi is just calling him Master twice, which makes no sense. And don't try to give Funimation credit or any benefit of the doubt, they still stick with Fasha and mispronounce Saiyan to this very day. They had no idea what they were doing back when they started dubbing with Saban and Ocean thirty years ago and those nasty habits have become mainstay in the dub to where more people would complain about more accurate terms and pronunciations than praise it.I legit hate the dub now, they never improved and some of voice work outright got worse.
>>577036851man she started voicing Goku at 49, i wonder if she thought she was gonna be in the biz for 40+ more years at that time
>>577036851Nozawa will outlive most of us
>>577036851Man she's old enough that the reaper might take her any day now.
>>577036851Our HEROES!
new training suits!
>>577016956He wasn't. The joke of that part of the arc was Shin overreacting about everything, the Saiyans surprising him, and only turning to be correct about Buu. Puipui even talks about living on a planet with x10 gravity which is the same as Kaio's planet so we are meant to assune he is Saiyan arc level.
>>577038901You already lost that argument, don't try to restart it. It's pathetic.
>>577039061I skimmed over the text walls so idk what you talking about, but with that kind of answer I already get the gist of it.
>>577038774Isnt that Goku's Yardrat suit?
>>577039229Cool story, now fuck off back to your gay powerscaling shithole. You will never make it make sense that Shin somehow though a guy weaker than Raditz was a threat to him, it will never be anything other than your laughable headcanon.
>>577039254Yeah lol, I used it as a 'training suit' while dragonball hunting
>>577039336The simple answer is that it is a gag. This will be my only answer since you seem to be taking it too seriously.
>>577038901>The joke of that part of the arcThat's the cope Cellfags have been using to pretend Dabura wasn't as strong as Cell for decades. Didn't work then, won't work now.
>>577039465>The simple answer is that it is a gag.No, the simple answer is that Pui Pui is a threat to Shin and thus are Android Saga level, which is still pathetically weaker than Vegeta in the Buu Saga, just like Freeza was pathetically weak compared to Trunks, the weakest Android Saga character.It's really that simple.
>>577039482People have a really weird hang up about the obvious fact that every DB big bad is fodder by the time the next arc comes around, no matter how impressed you were by them.Beerus is like the one exception.
>>577039482Wasnt he Perfect Cell level but not Super Perfect level
>>577040109Goku just say 'Cell' and he knows Super Perfect Cell so it should be both.
>>577040109>>577040193IIRC, Dabura turns out to be stronger than Goku's estimate too, no?
>>577040276No. Gohan was retconned to be even weaker.
>Tora is voiced by 4kids actor Marc Thompson (Chazz Princeton) Huh. I never saw that coming
>>577039482At least in that case, Goku was the one who said it.
>>577040468The Yu Gi Oh name changes were so bad
>>577000294Draw her more to suck less
>>577040468>>577040724How did that dub even handle the whole "Manjome Thunder/Manjome-san Da" thing?It was bad, wasn't it?Dubs just can't deal with puns like that.
>>577025228"It cum with eggwuh"
>>577004406I think that's more to do with adapting certain characters' moves rather than running out of ideas. One of Jiren's moves is literally called "Power Wall", what else would it be other than a literal wall when the Tank class is about moving and blocking enemies? Sure, Frieza already has a wall, so let's just uh... make it move forward! (now it's just a slow and wide Bardock ult)
>>577041558It didn't. It just went 'The Chazz' or some dumb shit like that.
>>577041558The Chazz/Chazz it up.
>>577003345Non-earrape version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yS4sejsGNs
>>577040724True, they definitely went too far. Chazz is a name I'm used to, so I don't mind. But after 5Ds I use sub exclusively
>>577039451now this is peak
>>577041881The dub has him say the overwhelming line twice, while the sub just has him say "it's over" the second time. Jesus christ
>>576769417he lost the vote
>>576785852You're such a joke. Assassinate the CEO of Bamco or you're a soft cunt.
I can't believe I actually fell for the promise of the roguelike mode and re-downloaded Sparking Zero. God what a shitheap of a game. Shame on me for thinking they could possibly have fixed its enormous fundamental problems or implemented any mode in a fun or remotely balanced way.
>>577044278>Chazz is a name I'm used toListen, changing the name to Chazz is one thing but 'The Chazz' and 'Chazz it up' is just no.>>577050992I love those X 1000 fanarts.>>577053749I'm having fun.
>>577044468The dub loves two things: Being lazy and forcing shitty memes.
>>577039336>a guy weaker than RaditzThis isn't necessarily the case, he still could be a couple dozen times stronger than Raditz. Pui Pui's power cannot be scaled that precisely, it can only be said that a Saiyan Saga feat is considered impressive by him so he is somewhere around there.
>>57703685189?!
>>577039482What? Dabura is scaled to Cell by Goku who is significantly more reliable than Kaioshin. It's an entirely unrelated debate anyway, but Dabura being relative to Cell at least is undeniable.
>>577058376Wrong. WRONG.
>>577060792>>577061306Reddit is that way. You should go back instead of rehashing arguments that have long concluded.
>>577061475?
>>577058376>>577061437Goku should fuck both
Goku is only for Chichi
>>577061905Other way around
Goku is for Grandpa Gohan and Ox King onyl
>>577062746Gay.
>>577040724I still don't understand why they even bother sometimes. Why change a perfectly normal name like Serena to the almost identical Celina? Why Yuzu to fucking Zuzu? It's not a case where the dub names are easier to pronounce, like Krillin over Kuririn.
>>577058376Loli incest is so wrong but just so ludicrously hot
That's not okay
>>577062849Serena to Celina is a reference to Celine Dion and Zuzu Boyle is another singer reference IIRCt. dubautist
>>577062849It's a power thing to them. They feel the need to 'leave their mark' on the show and pretend it's totally THEIR success that way.
>>577063129That's even stupider >>577063192I hate it
>>577058376pan thirsting for chi-chi just doesn't feel right, she's always seemed like she's trying to overshadow her grandma for some reason (hot grandpa sex probably) not trying to fuck her
>>577063393>>577040724I agree but it can always get worse
Speaking of shitty yugioh things, there still is not a single Dragon Ball villain as stupid as this man. We should count ourselves lucky.
>>577063438She doesn't want to fuck Goku, you're just projecting your own perverted desires
>>577063672I remember when they changed a girl's name to Este Dee for some reason and rewrote a bunch of her lines to be bad sex / STDs 'jokes'.
>>577063863Ex-fucking-cuse me
>>577063438I got the same feeling. Good point.>>577063765Why? What did he do? And what would be the DB equivalent.>>577063672They really went from 'Soulburner' to 'Burnsy', what the fuck is wrong with them?
>>577063985Yup, she's from the Atelier series too so it's extra weird and out of place.
>>577063863Nis America made that change
>>577064363That's still a translation / 'localization' change.
>>577064173this shit is typical NISA form, sometimes i don't think they even have people who know japanese working there
>>577050992Kale? I’d rail.
>>577064486They really ruined the Disagea franchise. It was never a mega serious franchise by NISA turned it into a parody of itself with its bullshit.
>>577064662>It was never a mega serious franchise but NISA turned it into a parody of itself with its bullshit.*My bad
>>577063991>Why? What did he do?So this guy, Leo Akaba. He is from the original Yugioh dimension where he helped make an advancement in solid light holograms that allowed them to be more realistic than ever before. The top duelist from that dimension (literally named "Zarc" because his parents hated him) ended up hurting an opponent in a duel because the holograms were real enough to cause physical damage, and the crowds loved it and demanded more. Duelist eventually went off the deep end as the game turned into bloodsport, started to cause the apocalypse, and Leo Akaba tried to find a way to stop him using cards that harnessed the power of nature or some shit that would stop the apocalypse (at the cost of potentially killing himself).His daughter Ray didn't want him to die and was the only duelist that was skilled enough to actually use those cards and face Zarc, so she activated them and in the process fractured the apocalypse boy into four different new beings, also shattering herself and even the dimension into four in the same process (so now a "Standard" dimension, a "Fusion," "Synchro," and "XYZ" one). Now Zarc reincarnates as four different people (all with "Yu-" in their names) that are (mostly) less evil than he was, with Ray's new reincarnations effectively working as keys to keep his power in check. Leo Akaba ends up in the Standard dimension after this sans memories for a time and starts a new family with a new son and daughter, though eventually those memories come back and he learns of the other dimensions.
>>577067038What does this man do as he remembers the world almost was destroyed and the daughter that sacrificed herself to save it? He concocts a plan to resurrect his daughter by sacrificing her reincarnated counterparts to remake her, which involves turning the Fusion dimension's (aka GX's) Duel Academy into a military dictatorship with himself as the dictator, starts genocidal conquest against XYZ that involves doing the Pegasus thing of turning people into cards and using their souls as fuel for the reactor that'll bring his daughter back, and somehow finds the one Zarc counterpart with the most evil in him and CULTIVATES that into an EVEN MORE EVIL attack dog he can send out against other dimensions. This also means that the original Zarc has greater chance of reviving by making his reincarnates fight one another and absorb each other's souls until they reform the apocalypse boy.The fucking kicker? Leo's plan fails spectacularly, even after the man sacrifices the four girls his daughter isn't revived but instead barely exists for a short while in a Yami Yugi-like state, he tries to stop the resurrected Zarc only to get fucking killed, and it's up to his NEW (adoptive) daughter having to be the Yugi to his original daughter's Yami to stop the apocalypse again. And he doesn't even get punished for his crimes afterward!The anime was fucking BAD man. At least we can laugh at the manga ending on a Back to the Future reference.
>>577067185>the manga ending on a Back to the Future referencedidn't it involve the main character's girlfriend fucking his dad to make him? or am i remembering it wrong
>>577067425The main character was revealed to be the son of the main girl, who had developed a crush on his time traveling ass and tried to confess her feelings before he left. The manga ends on the confirmation that he nearly did pull a Marty McFly.
>>577067038>>577067185Man, that sounds unwatchable.>>577067425IIRC, basically his love interest was his mom all along because he was actually from the future or she was from the past or something like that.
>>577067038>>577067185>>577067425>>577067705...what the fuck happened to Yu-Gi-Oh?
>>577067859I haven't watched anything since 5D but from what I heard it was the worst Yu Gi Oh series and the ones after were better.>>577067705>he nearly did pull a Marty McFly.He COMPLETELY pulled a Marty McFly since Marty also had his mom get a crush on him and almost confess to him before he fixed it / left.
>>577067705did he know she was his mom the whole time? because i feel like it doesn't count as a marty mcfly if he doesn't know
>>577067038>>577067185...I owe GT, Super, Daima, and especially Heroes many apologies
>>577068358He didn't. He lost his memories and only recovers them at the very end.
>>576510948
>>577069078
>>577069365Such a noble sacrifice. We hardly knew ye…
>>577067859>>577068380Arc-V was still miles better than any of the post-Vrains seasons by virtue of them playing the actual game instead of the baby-version tailored for zoomers
>>577067038>>577067185>At least we can laugh at the manga ending on a Back to the Future reference.You're this shitpost of an anime ALSO HAS THAT ENDING? Holy shit dude, sounds like a real popcorn flicker lmao.
>>577016659>How the HECK the characters having a life is "so stupid" ?Because they didn't have a life ESL king, they had their legacy be defined by being history to justify an MMORPG class.Like literally all of their the "lives" that DBO gave them was:>And then he wrote a book which wound up being the basis for MMORPG Melee Class #1 (Fighter)>And then they started a martial arts school which wound up being the basis for MMORPG Melee Class #2 (Swordsman)>And then Krillin started teaching the ways of the Turtle Hermit to people (Turtle Hermit)>And then Tien started the Crane School back up (Crane Hermit)etc. etc.That's not exactly some deep lore giving them satisfying lives if they all just wind up doing the same thing so there can be thousands of people running around doing all of the anime moves hundreds of years later.
>>577070336oh yeah the other thing is arc-v's manga story is completely different from the anime, yuya's 'actual' mom was shown in the anime and she definitely wasn't yuzu as wellwhich then just means some madman saw arc-v and thought "you know what'd make this better? making his love interest actually his mom" and changed the entire story to accommodate for it
I wish Toriyama was alive to continue the story of Daima
>>577067859Head writer tanked Arc-V out of spite and caused the downwards spiral of the anime side of the franchise.
>>577070336>anime ALSO HAS THAT ENDINGNo, the story and character personalities are completely different between the manga and anime. Same thing with GX, 5DS, etc. Only the setting, designs, and character names get borrowed from the anime.
>>577061905Goku should be for Panzy though
>>577063991Burnsy is a nickname by the gag character
This isn't important, but I wanted to share it.
>>577074828I'll take his place
You could NEVER take Goku's place.
>>577074828Panzy is too old
>redownload game because I heard they made changes and added a ton of content>the changes are meaningless and supers are still useless because even the CPU's just vanish everything >Fights are still just "get to their back and combo" and mashing out revenge counters>Roguelike mode doesn't even have standardized stats for building, weak characters get fucked at all levels while strong characters coastDog shit game
Does the Neo DLC increase the amount of enemies in Round Robin Survival or is the mode still based on the main game + season pass?
>>577040468Just recently, another game I played used Joey's VA for a minor character, still sounds the same, brooklyn accent and all!
If I wanted to deal with constant sweaty counterattack and vanish war bullshit, I'd play online.
>>577032428>brunette Launch
>>577032428late 20th century japan seemed like it might have been a magical place to be
I don't know how to feel about xenoverse 2 being over in a few weeks no new content ever, no more reason to pick up the game, I guess I'll go back to crossworlds after this festival is over, I'm on the switch so I don't have a shot at xenoverse 3 until a year after release when the shittier port comes to switch 2
>>577040724Stuff like Jonouchi to Joey, Aki to Akiza, or Katori to Tori works fine.
>>577104006What about that one yugioh card that changed DEATH to FINAL
>>577104175It's dumb but passable. I blame the moral guardians and soccer moms of back then.
Children's card game
What's the most populated DBO server these days?Or are they all dead?
You know this makes me think of Kung Pow.Like bad dong. It makes me giggle.
>>577106743We purposefully trained Gohan wrong as a joke
>>576770208It’s criminal all the Trio de Dangers aren’t in Sparking Zero either. Feels like they’d be shoe ins honestly so I don’t get how they didn’t make it in even after Neo.
Zangya, no! Don't violate Gohan!
>>577108574I'm making my Zangya and Gohan fanfics with the custom battle mode.
>>577108869>t.TheWriteFiction
>>577093861It increased even if you don't own the DLC
Frieza Frieza coke comma see my show
>>577110304I did something similar in bt2 (just vs mode tho), at the last second I had gohan 'rush in and kick Bojack as he warped behind Zangya', saving her, Zangya gets mad that Bojack tried to kill her and temporarily joins gohan, unfortunately there's no voiceline for it
Toriyama really doesn't like Goku being a hero, I wonder why.
>>577114703He saw the DB cast as a bunch of selfish characters who just happen to do good. They do help people in danger, but only if they see it, otherwise they'll just live their lives normally. Gohan and Krillin are the only ones who did something to actively deal with crime, but Great Saiyaman is more of a punching bag because, while strong, most characters think he's lame, and Videl casually figured out his identity, which's not too surprising, as Toriyama didn't like to play "heroes of justice" straight.>Lady Red was incompetent, got raped, and decided that prostitution was better>Suppaman is a jerk and a coward>Pete Kobayashi is only ever the butt of jokes >Jaco is not as competent as he thinks, and he's also a coward>Hedo likes the idea of heroism, but he stole bodies and decided to work with Red Ribbon Pharmaceuticals despite feeling they were villains
>>577116628relatable thought process
>>577116628>Think anon is exaggerating with Lady Red>Look it up>She gets raped twice and it's played off as a joke both timesNot offended by the premise but the punchline wasn't funny.
>>577117824Careful, you say stuff like that and you'll get called woke
>>577108574>>577108869That's hot...
Have it your way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vc8lPKh_icJiren's GS trailer.>Passive is about taking less damage from the front, and taking less damage over time, and also a powered up state after he's in a battle for a while. Good Cell players will likely be a really annoying enemy enemy for Jiren players because they vanish towards you to use S2 for a back grab and stun.>S1 does more damage the more his passive gauge is filled, so it sounds like a skill to save during battles to finish off/do high damage>S2 uses a new stun animation as it flips over the characters and they're knocked down afterwards, it's like 4geta's S2, but without the wall requirement. Black/Jiren bottom lane WILL work at this rate.>S3 seems to be the kind of move to use when dying because of how much extra HP he gains, but on the other hand, the charge is interruptable (Since unlike Black, he doesn't get Immune To All), but the amount of armor he's shown to get is ridiculous>Ult is final form Freeza's ult, but it moves and burns.I'm not sure if he'll be the strongest tank, since currently the game is in a ratting meta, and while Bulma is getting nerfed, Bardock is not, but as a pure tank, he'll at least be a horrible headache.
>>577119654number 15: burger king foot lettus
Shit I killed the thread...
>>577126614when will you learn
>>577104006No, it doesn't, it's trash>>577103127RIP, anon
>>577071985Same
>>577076250What's that?
>>577127232I don't know
>>577114703Toriyama was a Toku fan, he had a VERY specific idea of a Hero of Justice and could get very autistic on stuff.He still said Nozawa understood Goku perfectly and Nozawa said Goku was a different type of hero.>>577116628>Lady Red was incompetent, got raped, and decided that prostitution was betterPeople forget Lady Red was just a random office lady that decided to quit her job to fight criminals.
>>577122025Seems strong but not broken.
>Lady Red was incompetent, got raped, and decided that prostitution was better>People forget Lady Red was just a random office lady that decided to quit her job to fight criminals.Holy fuck that's hot
I wanna mindbreak a female villain into becoming a sex-obsessed slut, like towa or future 18
>>577128729How about Kamin using your body to rape evil women and minbreaking you into becoming an evil villain / rapist while mindbreaking evil women into becoming either good, sluts, or more evil
>>577128932How does raping an evil women make her more evil???
>>577129314You were lied to all along. It doesn't fix her, it just makes her crazy and makes you yourself more evil.
>>577129469This and because she was raped, she trains her ass off so she doesn't get raped again, if you don't mindbreak her she'll stay evil
>>577129617Even if you do, you're just likely ending up evil yourself. It's like what they say about sticking it in the crazy, chance you will go crazy yourself trying to handle her.
>>577129469>>577129738Cringe and skill issues.
>>577129314Because Kamin was doing the raping, duh
Here, I'll explain itFuck her well = no longer evil, may even bear your children, turns goodMindbreak = completely reset her personalityDo a poor job fucking her = she will kill youdo an average job fucking her = still evil but may not kill youshe mindbreaks you = you become evil and/or her sex slave
>>577130179the first one = 18The second one = videl?the third one = fashaThe fourth one = zangya?Towa / Aios
We need more evil women
Evil OL's
I'm sorry bro but you were lied to, your dick can't fix her, all that will happen is things will get worse for you. Just like in that recent movie all the chicks like.
>>577131024Don't believe this guy, he's not trying hard enough
>>577131202The harder you try the more you get the evil in your cock.
>>577131024Skill issues
>>577131891You sound like the guy that would stick it in the crazy even after all the warnings. Don't blame me when she's still crazy and evil.
>>577132079You sound like you have skill issues and project that unto others. I already have 50 ex-evil women at my house.
>videotoysSHAN'T
god I hope the xenoverse 3 information to come is worth a damn because I foresee this place going down the /sthg/ path if it isn't. You know it's a fucked up world when /khg/ has more positivity and activity than here.
>>577134101>/sthg/TLDR?>You know it's a fucked up world when /khg/ has more positivity and activity than here.This is actually one of the most positive DB space online, we just have occasional tourists shitting it up and the occasional seething doomposter who's obviously from /dbs/
>>577133374You don't even have 1>>577134228No, the reverse isn't going to work either. Your vagina won't fix a villainous boy. He's just going to make you evil.
>>577134714Cope
>>577134228oops
>>577135287Fu deserves to be bullied
Former evil guy here, my wife made me good...er
>>577134542The sonic general is full of people raging over the franchise constantly and in between the rage outs someone posts a fap fic or triggers a shipping war or a culture war rant for several posts until the general ends with someone proclaiming how much they hate the place, they're basically addicted to anger and rage all the time there.
>>577135590Bejita...
>>576785852Still cheaper than RimWorld lmao
>>577135985Sounds like /dbs/
>>576746180Note is pure!
>>577136256Holy shit, how is a colony sim THAT expensive?!
>>577136519I'd be fine with the price of the base game if the DLCs weren't so ridiculously expensive even on sale, and Ludeon keeps releasing a new DLC every year.
>>577136465>Note is pure!
>>577136465Look at the pins on that girl
>>577117824Never change, Japan
>>577074828Toriyama throwing shade at all the "fans" that keep pairing Goku with other people.
>>577128932That sounds like something Oren would probably do.
>>577142331They already did, unfortunately.
>>577142878>Toei dialogue>ToriyamaYou think he wrote the script or what? He simply gave the plot outline as always.
>>577143759>Event happens in the plot>Some retard on 4chan: heh did you think Toriyama wrote that dialogue What did he mean by this
>>577136256>gog-games is dying soon/rwg/ will never financially recover
Kamin mentioned.
Cum in Kamin
>>577150258Looking respectfully at this image
mfs be like I love monkey girls until a tuffle walks past them
>>577157079Aren't Tuffles just (looks wise) shorter Humans?
>>577157686neo tuffles
>>577157686Aren't Saiyans just (looks wise) humans with monkey tails?
For a SRW rep for DB, 30 had Ultraman as just a normal sized dude in a suit fighting, you could easily shove the Great Saiyanman in there by the same logic.
>>577160221just put bulma in a mecha
>>577160221if anything is getting into srw it's the pilaf machines, surely?
>>577160293SRW doesn't really do that IIRC. They do stretch stuff sometimes like the Team Rocket from Nadia being in because of their tank. We'd need Bulma to get in a mecha suit in canon tho.
>>577160403I'd imagine so but the Gammas have a chance too IMO.But if they get a DB rep, I imagine they'd take the most relevant character they can get away with so Gohan or a Giant Piccolo.MAYBE Goku if future DB stuff really lean on his Susano thing.
>>577160467>SRW doesn't really do that IIRCThey've gotten a hell of a lot looser over the years. You can just throw cowboy bebop in these days who gives a fuck. The real reason I dont see toei getting in is toei is probably hyper expensive to work with and this is a super niche series
>>577160654>You can just throw cowboy bebop in these days who gives a fuckI mean, just have the crew in their ship, like they did with Nadia, no?The only thing stopping them from having a Freeza ship rep is that Freeza is a bad guy (You can easily just have the ship attack by releasing swarms of Freeza Soldiers and the stronger attacks is throwing strong dudes like Dodoria or Zarbon until you get the ultimate where the top of the ship open with Freeza and he nukes the planet) so you'd need to have a good guy rep first to fight him.I guess thanks to the Super arc with Watagarashi, you could have Jaco with his ship. His macrocosm cannon already looks right out of SRW.>ToeiWouldn't it be Bandai or CCT?
it will be cell max
>>577162298Cell MAX would 200% appear as a boss but they wouldn't just have a random enemy with no actual playable guy from a franchise.
>>577162298Cell max could unironically get in as an enemy, same as Godzilla just got in with Jet Jaguar. The real reason I don't see Great Saiyaman/ Gammas getting in is that it's a parody of toku in a non toku show as opposed to actual tokusatsu. The Tokusatsu and Mecha fanbase overlap is well known but dragonball just feels a bit TOO tangential
>>577162487Dunno, we got Magical Girls in the TOP and Anilaza was pretty Toku too without really being a parody. The opposite happening is possible.
Since we're talking about SRW crossovers, you could easily have your main character get in the adventure by jumping in some Capsule Corp project when some robots attacked while the boys were offworld.Also the Super Robot / Real Robot split upgrade with the Granvang in V is undefeated. Every MC mecha and their upgrade since have been a downgrade (Not that they were bad tho).
How do you feel about Beerus in 2026?
>>577164971Super duper low power super robot wars antics with shit like OYW mechs, tetsujin, dragonball's battle jackets and the like could be real fun. Shit bring Dai Gaurd back why not
>>577165323I still wanna caress his body
>>577165323He exists? He feels like a character that should've been long pushed to the wayside but he's still just kinda chugging along
>>577165335The good thing with that idea is that DB has stuff for every level that SRW range through, from the low level real robots to the cosmic super robots so it would make for a really smooth progression (Okay, we're kinda lacking in the 'country to planetary' range since DB just didn't use anything that'd fit SRW on those levels and jumped straight to universe busters like Cell MAX and Anilaza).And by having your MC use DB tech, you bypass the issue of 'Who would even be the DB rep?'. SRW would 100% come up with some kino use of weaponized capsule tech and the different bullshit Bulma could pull out of her random tinkering pile (AKA her ass).
>>577165323I like him but I don't like how Toyotaro kept him as a moving goalpost post-TOP / DBS Broly.Goku should have surpassed him when he went MUI and I hope the anime goes that route instead.
>>577165323Cute babysitter
>>577165323He's cool and so is his theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI6Yyr-iI6MBut yeah I feel like Goku should've surpassed him already. It's not like Goku is out to take his job
I think i'd be fine if goku didn't surpass beerus if beerus ever fucking DID anything. Whis is the king kai esque exposition and weird powers guy so what the fuck does beerus even provide to this
>>577165893>(Okay, we're kinda lacking in the 'country to planetary' range since DB just didn't use anything that'd fit SRW on those levels and jumped straight to universe busters like Cell MAX and Anilaza).Just borrow from Sandland. They have giant battlejackets, the cargo ships and The Flying Fortress Garam, which feel right out of SRW.
>>577166547>I think i'd be fine if goku didn't surpass beerus if beerus ever fucking DID anything.Beerus can't do anything BECAUSE Goku didn't surpass him. If he does anything, the plot is over. Just like it'd have been over if he just went to the future timeline and one shotted Black.Make Goku on his level (and put Vegeta on the backburner for a decade) and then he can be active.
One of my big worries for the future of the franchise with Toriyama's death is that with the 'God hierarchy' and Beerus as a moving goalpost, the 'power hierarchy' is gonna fossilize and we're gonna end up in a capeshit situation where no matter what happens, the characters always more or less reset to the same level under the Gods.
>>577166759oh shit yeah sandland would be a good crossover actually
>>577167330It even has a built in boss: The Geji Dragon. You're kinda lacking in the Super Robot range (mostly just Tanks, Real Robot and Heavy Real Robot range) but that's why you have Capsule Corp involved.
>>577167654I mean you don't /need/ to have a super robot esque rep. If the scopedog can fight the anti-spiral the battle jacket can too. That is assuming the scope even gets that high, as a lot of them max out around axis shock tier powerlevels
>>577167330>>577167654Also literally just use whatever this is.Toriyama had some stuff like that which weren't ever used for anything as far as I know.
>>577167854X and V had the universe kinda breakdown around the final battle tho. I haven't tried T and Y yet and haven't reached the 30 endgame yet tho so maybe they went lower?And I mean sure, you don't need a Super Robot esque rep but it's generally better if you have SOME bullshittium to make your rep hit hard with a new attack or get a big upgrade toward the endgame. Like sure the 'normal unit' for Nadia was the funny team rocket tank but you also had the Nautilus throwing Ancient Civilization Nukes at people in the endgame as a ship unit.
>>577168238Didn't X straight up have Gurren Laggan? One would kind of imply that would tip the powerlevels up way the fuck high, lmao.
>>577168389>Didn't X straight up have Gurren Laggan?Yes.>One would kind of imply that would tip the powerlevels up way the fuck high, lmao.Only the movie honestly and V arguably went higher with the weird machine god bullshit PLUS the X final boss.Also honestly the Mazinger and Getter top tiers are more or less the same kind bullshit IMO.
>>577168238Y has godzilla ultima come in and shit gets so bad Getter Emperor himself has to step in so yeah i'd imagine the powerlevels get pretty high
>>577168646>the weird magic god*My badAlso they specifically went 'The laws of reality are breaking down so stuff like size don't really do anything anymore' to explain why everyone could fit visible on the battlefield despite some characters being human sized, some being planet sized and some the size of a galaxy.
The real problems are ones of tone and aesthetic. Dragon Ball doesn't fit with the aesthetic of the games directly. You can excuse something like Tekkaman Blade for being a series about a dude in Power Armor, the Iczers being cyborgs, or G Gundam having the occasional moments of the fighters on foot, but all have some kind of focus towards that sci-fi aesthetic at the end of the day. Dragon Ball is a series where you don't have that many major characters close to that aesthetic, especially not protagonists. The tone meanwhile just isn't there; Dragon Ball is a series where Goku fights strong guys, him being in something where the main appeal is giants of steel smashing evil together is awkward, unnatural, "Fotnite" even.Instead of trying to force the square peg that is Dragon Ball directly into the round hole that is SRW, make a different tactics game that can better fit Dragon Ball. Something like the Touhou one.
>>577168897I want SRW to have Toriyama robots and machines tho.
>>577168897As that other anon brought up, SandLand fits in pretty well, you could just have people like Cell max showing up as a side thing if you wanted to
>>577168897I disagree on the tone, SRW managed to make series with massively different tones like Evangelion, Cross Ange, Code Gease, Might Gaine and Mashin Hero Wataru all work together.DB wouldn't be THAT out of place.
>>577169220Sadly Toriyama isn't with us anymore so that's a long shot.>>577169267It works better but Cell Max would only work if it's a weird one-off on the mobile game, like Pac-Man.
>>577168897>>577169220I think DB or 'Toriyama's Dragon World' having reps in a game like SRW would actually be an awesome way to honor his memory and his talent in mech and vehicle design, both of which tend to get forgotten.And for the suits, the above would be absolutely awesome PR to sell it.
>>577169708The problem is, again, on where that tone focuses down to. You include Dragon Ball into a thing for Goku, who at his core is a martial artist that doesn't know the first thing about piloting a robot or what a power armor is. It's a bit of a disconnect from the kind of thing you come to the series for, the heroes in metal giants smashing evil.>>577169898It would work better if they were getting Toriyama to design an OG for them, but again, he's not around anymore.
Here's your Goku in SRW, hope you enjoy
>>577170616>It's a bit of a disconnect from the kind of thing you come to the series for, the heroes in metal giants smashing evil.You don't come to cowboy bebop for the protagonists fighting robots in space yet it got into super robot wars doing just that
>>577170652NO! DO NOT!
>>577170616>who at his core is a martial artist that doesn't know the first thing about piloting a robot or what a power armor isMaster Asia started like that in his own home series and he learned just fine. Mecha is such a wide genre.Also Goku literally fought robots since he was a kid, not really different from Wataru.The only difference is Goku did it with his fist while Wataru did with his fist as a robot.Just find a DB mech to throw in and the tone really would not be different.
>>577170652How is she Goku?
>>577170616>It would work better if they were getting Toriyama to design an OG for themThat would have been insanely kino.
>>577170741>>577170976Spike is still going around in the Swordfish shooting bad guys in T; you're not controlling him getting into gunfights on foot. Aside from one game Master Asia is fought exclusively in Master Gundam. Wataru is still going around in a mech.You don't add Goku into a thing and then shove him into a robot, there is a Fortnite level disconnect. Sand Land works better because of the tank focus.
>>577170918Why not? You wanted Goku, you get Goku.>>577171361Nozawa.
>>577171813Anon no one was saying Goku specifically has to be the guy in the robot, if anything the proposed idea is the designated OG guy would get bulma to make robots for him
>>577171893I don't want that Goku...>>577171930Bulma in that transforming bike mech would be fine for a thing like DD
>>577172083How about this Goku?
>>577172581Now I'm just sad that Goku got her adaptation as a 10fps PowerPoint by one of the worst studios out there...
>>577171893Jesus Christ though that goblina on the right... barf...
>>577171893Based and hot.>>577171813>You don't add Goku into a thing and then shove him into a robot,I think there's a misunderstanding, nobody was talking about Goku being put into a robot.We were talking about what would fit as a DB rep for SRW, with the initial proposals being the Pilaf Machine, Great Saiyanman, Giant Piccolo, Jaco and his ship or the Gammas (with Cell MAX and Anilaza as bosses (recruitable in Anilaza's case IMO) and stuff like battlejackets and pirate robots as normal enemies).Then someone proposed that instead of trying to fit in an existing character, just make the MC and his Mecha be DB / Capsule Corp tech, that way you can use whatever DB tech and designs you want without having to bother explaining why Gohan is sticking to the Great Saiyanman shtick, why Piccolo is always turning giant to fights and without wasting the rep slot on a low tier joke unit like the Pilaf Machine (who can be in as a minor unit / early boss).
>>577173248I find all 3 cute.
>>577173687The fairy is unappealing
>>577173895She has cute freckles
>>577174037Ugly freckles and no tits, mogged
>>577174075>Zoomer babbleExplains the shit taste
>>577174075nta but i think she cute
>>577175645Cope>>577175708Is that supposed to convince me? Good lord she's ugly.
>>577171893All three of these women are ugly as hell
bnnuy better
>>577175708Nice feet
>>577175960>>577176251let me guess, this is more your type?
>>577176748I mean yes but that's besides the point
>>577176748Yes, much better
Those AI fairies and the Yugioh discussion reminds me of that Seal of Memories fan-game with the bootleg Heishin, OC's everywhere, and you need to pay if you want a fun starter deck as opposed to gimped Starry Knight. Fuck that game.
>>577166547>what the fuck does beerus even provide to thisHuh? Beerus Is directly training Vegeta, he's the only reason Ultra Ego exists
>>577178042>Ultra EgoI once again reiterate that beerus provides fuck all to the story
>>577178206You lost me
>>577178042>he's the only reason Ultra Ego existsThat is not an accomplishment.
>>577177240What deck would Goku use?>>577178042Ultra Ego is one of the most retarded concepts in the entire story. How the fuck is that gonna keep up with UI when the very people who have it mastered are trying to learn UI as an upgrade?
>>577176453>>577176748cute!
>>577178042Ultra Ego sucks dickHe's supposed to get stronger the more he gets beaten to a pulp but not TOO much or else he'll just lose
>>577178946For me I just dislike the idea of the whole Angel versus god of destruction teacher rivalry thing. That was never a thing until toyo invented it and it's entirely nonsense and is like kami and king kai having a rivalry
>>577179084That's basically what I'm saying. Whis isn't a rival teacher to Beerus, he is the straight superior and is even Beerus' own teacher. Like Karin was to Roshi and Kami was to Karin.
>>577179302not to mention that Whis was vegeta's teacher as much as he was Goku's. I don't think beerus was EVER brought up or characterized to be some sort of teacher until ultra ego, right?
>>577179084It just doesn't even make much sense, especially after we saw Beerus trying to utilize the properties of UI in the GoD battle royal
Are you going to the theme park /dbg/?
>>577180140Holy fuck that's so cool>It's being built in Saudi ArabiaOh... welp.Maybe you can at least get to watch them throw the gays off Kami's Lookout.
>>577179432>I don't think beerus was EVER brought up or characterized to be some sort of teacher until ultra ego, right?Yup, he was either just sleeping through or getting annoyed at Goku and Vegeta's training, never participating or helping.
>>577181709Also Paris
>>577180140It's not even built yet.
>>577182116Duh. Will you be going when it is built?
>>577182187big if, knowing how likely these kinds of things are to fall through
>>577180140Yah
>>577165323I think Zeno and the Destroyer gods are so flippant towards life and hurt so many innocents that I've started to sorta hate them over time, especially since the series treats them so lightheartedly. Beerus was cool in Battle of Gods (the movie version) but outside of that, I don't like him.
>>577146038>gog-games is dying soon
>>577181709>Kami's LookoutKorin's Tower is higher in that image, you know.
>still no updates for Eternity Tools and XV2 Save EditorDoes it usually take this long? Haven't played in years.
>>577182187>>577182303They're making one in France too. I'll definitely go at that one if it's built.
Bruh... look at this dood...
>>577202820He looks like the billionaire rapist vampire / werewolf in the novels booktok loves.
>>577203070I don't think those are supposed to look like ayy lmaos
>>577179059I was hoping Ultra Ego was like UI and "Mastered Ultra Ego" made him look similar to GoD Toppo.
>>577203070
>>577204527Me when Kamin.
>>577203498Just give him hair and it's the same general 'Giant insanely muscular V shaped dude' body type.
>>577203996Toyotaro didn't put that much thought into it, he just copy pasted the theory from twitter with no further planning.
Any recommended mods for Kakarot that enhance the base game experience or not really?
I just realized Belmod's about to retire so since XV3 takes place 200 years after the events of the ToP it's likely that he's U11's new GoD.
>>577202820Stella!!!
>>577203498It's current year, ayys are in actually
>>577165323He's basically another Oolong. A character who's just kinda there even though he's not even doing anything, and hasn't for years.
>>577179556I just realized that even though Vegeta's tanky, he never actually won a battle of attrition the way Goku did many times. His durability just extends his suffering, he either wins the fight quickly or he loses. Though I don't remember how the Toppo fight went.
>>577208078Aren't battles of attrition actually super rare in DB? Stuff like Super Saiyan Goku versus Frieza wasn't really much of a batttle of Attrition, he'd mostly won and was just trying to break Frieza's pride. Back in OGDB Goku was really good at gassing out his opponents and forcing them into no win situations where they have to do some bullshit like Tien and Piccolo in the 22nd and 23rd budokai. But it's largely not a thing during Z
Thoughts?
>>577104860Anyone?Not a single soul plays this game?
>>577104860>>577211062There's a new one that came out recently but I don't remember the name.>>577205083Not really IMO.
>>577021898Goku can have Panzy, i'll be too busy plowing bosus lolihag pussy after i'm done with her more mature form
Bless Bin Shimada's throat whenever he screams as DBS!Broly
>>577211519I tried out the new one (Reborn) but it's already a complete ghost town. Not a single person chatting in the world chat and I only saw 4 people in total in the main city.
>>577208751Piccolo vs 17 was a battle like that and in Super Jiren's fight as well as Gas's fight was about trying to tire them out because they were too power to try and out muscle them outright but you're right, it's a pretty rare occurence the only thing I think that GT did close was Gogeta dicking around with Omega Shenron just so he had enough time to dispell the negative energy around the planet. God damn the black star dragonballs are stupid as a plot device.
>>577213128>I think that GT did close was Gogeta dicking around with Omega Shenron just so he had enough time to dispell the negative energy around the planet.This never happened and is an extremely common fandom myth. What actually happened is Gogeta DID in fact fuck around and Vegeta explicitly chastises Goku for dicking around after they defuse
>>577205308>I just realized Belmod's about to retireI was wondering about that the other day. We know Beerus at leas has been a GoD for many millions of years, and Belmont was a Pride Trooper before being a GoD, so are the Pride Troopers a super ancient organization or does Belmont just want to retire with an extremely short career?
>>577213339I think it's a "don't think about it" thing.
>>577213339It's just one of Toyotaro's random ideas that make no sense and will never matter again
>gogeta fucked around and found out
>>577213339>>577214753Same as the Galactic Patrol existing 5 million years ago and somehow being preferred agents of the Kaioshins when their entire thing was being a mega local power in bumfuck nowhere that would get wiped by a single Freeza grunt.
God, Uub sucks
>>577205308>implying we'll know or see anything regarding the other universesI'd be genuinely surprised. My theory for us inevitably going back to past arcs and reliving the scenes is that it's some kind of simulation training via parallel quest and I think that's the extent of Super's multiverse in this game.
I'm bored, entertain me by talking about how LSSC, Black, Orange and Ultra ego will work in xenoverse 3 when they add those awakenings to CACs, we already know SS4 is day 1 DLC
>>577202820Is this what overwhelming strength looks like?
>>577216807Easy: They won't work cause they won't be in the game.
Gogeta used the final Kamehameha before vegito https://youtu.be/21k_KhhSUjg?t=1m59s
>>577217535And Vegito used the big bang Kamehameha against Buuhan before Gogeta so what's your point
>>577179059The Super manga is so bad
I added a trigger effect that if Zangya loses to Bojack, Gohan takes her places and becomes Super Saiyan 2.
>>577213128>God damn the black star dragonballs are stupid as a plot deviceYes but they have nothing to do with what you just said, the Evil Dragons arc is about the regular Dragon Balls
>>577223793>hormone-induced ss2heh
I'm digging these Super 18 mods. Shame they're just cosmetic though, no new moves or anything.
>>577191649Historically, it takes about a month for them to update so should be soonish.
>>577223489>>577223793You're very invested in this pairing huh ma'am
>>576785852counterargument: 140USD in 2026 is only worth about 57.99 in 90's money.
>>577176453bnnuy sexo
>>577216807>LSSCSuper saiyan with 'deal more damage, take more damage'. It's limit break is LSS Berserk that doubles that and adds super armor>BlackLimit break for Turn Golden>OrangeLimit Break for Potential Unleashed (Namekian) >Ultra egoGain ki when you take damage. Receive a damage buff proportionate to how much ki you have. The limit break gives hyper armor and one shot of "survive a lethal attack with 1 hp" but increases the damage you takeby Limit Break I mean the same mechanic by which you go from SS to SS3 in the demo.
>>577213339I assume its like Power Rangers and there are long spans of peace time with no Pride Troopers but whenever an ancient evil gets unsealed, the kaioshin and/or hakaishin go find some teens with attitude, and use the chance to groom one of them into a replacement
>>577203996will probably still happen when the manga finally comes back
>SS Vegeta GT's ultimate is an explosive wave that doesn't kill himGlad he finally mastered that
fusions 2
I think Goku would fight in a mech if you offered the opportunity to him, he's not really the kind to never accept new experiences even if he'd probably still prefer fighting himself the best.
>>577067185>>577067835>>577070104VRAINS is the worst YGO season by far. Even Rush mogs it.
>>577260551>Playmaker just sweeps the whole series with no stakes involvedI don't know what were they thinking.
>>577171813>Wataru is still going around in a mech.He get out of the mech to attack with his sword in an attack or two.
How is beerus going to die? I just have a feeling that he will someday. I'm guessing someone (frieza?) will kill shin to get the double kill
Achievable natty?
>>577027307i dont know if we even can grab in xv3
It's over, /dbg/
>>577263475Dragon Ball, art by Robert Liefeld
>>577265429You underestimate my POWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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