Colossus?>Steam pagehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3787240/MARVEL_Tkon_Fighting_Souls/>TEAM TRAILERS :>Unbreakable X-Men https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwe13-BKiwo>Amazing Guardianshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nwtrXnN0vY>Fighting Avengershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iab74kM-xA>Knights of Doomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4qG-wqhLc>Samurai Outridershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QGiaEkqYEE>Phoenix Cyclops revealhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GrMqmDi-SU>Opening intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSk3IMcgVQYOpen beta weekend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UlNl6VB0gPrevious Thread: >>576683065
>>576771003>>576769535People don't believe me but sonic only really excels at playing games that no one is really good at or are newhis cycle is>new game>learn the most unknown or strongest character>win several tourneys>cash out>move on to next gameHe is good at MK and dead or alive because he's one of the few players that sticks with those games and plays them consistently and wellThis is not me saying Sonic is a bad player, far from it, he IS better than me and most people, but it's easy to see his cycle year after year and how he starts to struggle when people start to understand a new game more. He did also try with FighterZ but he dropped that game when the average skill level of tourney players started to outpace him as well
game needs burst. Combos are too long and boring. Defense is too weak. Ground speed sucks
>>576771201I remember when he picked up soul calibur 6, plays geralt at first and then moved on to the boss character when people understood that geralt was a little flowcharty
Every single connection I had tonight was perfect, regardless of whether the other person was on PC or console. Literally no issues at all in like 20 sets
>>576771201>People don't believe me but sonic only really excels at playing games that no one is really good at or are newanon, everyone here knows that
>>57677168030 days of playstation plus have been added to your account
>>576771885everyone outside of 4chan thinks he's FGC jesus and if you shittalk him you're a bigot or something idk
>>576771680I've had more good ones than bad, but matchmaking takes way too long
>>576772071I think he doesn't have all the motion anymore. People definitely treated him like modern daigo a couple years ago, not so much nowadays
It's like every single combo in the game is as long as a +R Aba combo. Any time you get hit you know you're about to watch a cutscene
>>576772169He was only ever a top player in games with no competition. Even in dbfz he fell off hard very quickly.
If they want Champion to be viable at all they have to make green his default gauge state. If he gets attacked it can go down to level 1 but he should start rounds at level 3.Maybe make it so level 5 exists for more than 1 second too.
Your spine....
I thought I was interested in shuri but the spear unique cancel things are very annoying
>"this game's defense sucks" - sajamIT'S OVER
>>576772609He's right, been thinking that since the beta. One of the only defensive mechanics is a counter and the other can be reacted to and countered.
>>576771201>People don't believe me but sonic only really excels at playing games that no one is really good at or are neweveryone fucking knows thatit's literally the most pointed out thing not only here but even in the larger FGC spacethe only people who ignore it are his dick sucking followers
>>576772609Dix has even worse defense and it's the most popular fighting game of all time
gimme carnage tech
>>576772984holy cope
>>576772984Dix doesn't have a bunch of high low pressure extendersIt's literally just will you take a throw or will you get hit for 50%it's simple but it's not lacking because it doesn't present much threats outside of that
>>576771003crack doko?
Color 07 found at lastYou get them by beating 100 levels of survival mode.
>>576773320I have the raw files without owning it on steam but I'm too retarded to get it to run.
>>576773454cumulative or consecutively?
>>576773850It's survival so I guess it's consecutively
>>576771245spittinggameplay needs to be adjusted alongside pc port
>give Danger a hoverdash>need to wait like 20 frames before she can hit anything that is crouching since the only instant attack that will connect during the rising state is 2H which isn't an overhead>big bodies will literally shove her higher into the air when she runs into their collision box but still cant overhead themMeanwhile in the early footage you could see she had instant overhead and they just decided to take it away and make having a hoverdash completely useless
>>576772071i think that ship sailed years ago when everyone realized he has the personality of a tasmanian devil
Friday evening. Charts will never reach beta numbers word of mouth killed it
There's some sort of tier list for assist skills?>>576773454Carnage looking zesty
>>576773454oh fuck theres a lot of good colors here
>>576772609>IT'S OVERlosing 8k players on PC from launch as well on a friday night >SAAAAAAAAAAAARRR SAAAAAAAARR ITS A BUSY SUMMER WEEKEND SAAAR, PLAYERS WILL PLAY WHEN SUMMER IS OVER SAAAAR
>TNS tokon tournaments are ps5 onlyholy kek
You just sit in front of your PC watching the player count graph in real time?
Is a Dualsense Edge or GameSir G7 Pro better?
First EU online bracket 20 entrants minus 3 dq'sContinent rejected tokon
>>576775627Online players are always flakey in tournaments
>>576775465game is ps5 only let's be realno pc fix in sight
how do I refund this game?
>>576775679CotW had more entrants early on. chad move to boycott bad games like Tokon
>we are going to teach you a thing that you are literally never going to use because fuck you
So Champion is pretty much a solo character? can't quick assist with him in the field
there shouldn't be more than one assist per player on screen at any given time in neutral, during combos whatever you have to spend anyway. The neutral is an unwatchable clusterfuck atm
>>576771003>Colossus?Something the matter, Comrade?
>>576775627meanwhile there are 3 full strive brackets a daytroon continent
>>576773454Gwenpool on suicide watch.
>>576776441They need to just double the time assists take to recharge or make it so they only recharge one at a time. Having zero cost in neutral with how short the recharge is makes it retarded.
>>576777147I’d sooner expect background cameos to be disqualifying before a color.
>>576777379But background characters have become playable in past games though.
This is a discord fighter already, whatever flame it had was snuffed out by Sony's intentional sabotage of the PC version.
>>576773454can someone give me a list of objectives like this for all the solo unlocks?since i can't play online with this lag
>>576778050Pc players need an I can run at 60fps cord fr
>>576778050go back to your drive rush slop
>>576771003Will Tokon share the same fate as MvCI and fade into obscurity in under two years?
>>576777373>makes it retardedactually it's how the sauce gets it's mix
>>576778857this game looks uglier every time I see it, I swear to god
>Sorry… Huuulk wiiins!Best voice line, makes me want to main Hulk.
>>576778857Mvci had a ton of different issues. Tokon is just being held back by the bad pc port which can be fixed.
>>576778857who is that below thor
lets see those wishlists! bonus points if you adhere to team building instead of just throwing 30 random characters on here. lol
Koyasu Deadpool, that's the stuff...
>we dont want Champion as the final boss we want Thanos to do a heckin snapparino
>>576779309Dormammu >POWER OF THE- POWER OF THE- POWER OF THE
>>576779450>wishlistworking pc version
>>576779450>wishlistdefensive options
>>576779450Won't fill all of that but >Juggernaut>Sabertooth >Venom>Mystique >Blackheart
Did he do a single thing wrong?
>>576779450
Does arcsys not have a benchmark test for their other games? I don't remember Strive netplay being bad.
>>576780443they took sony money and were cursed, its the only explanation that makes any sense
>>576779536i just read the comic from 1966 where he gets evaporated by crashing into an exploding planet last nighti was thinking "i know this motherfucker gets better later"
>>576779450>Knights of the Cosmos>Mighty Defenders>New Mutants>Sinister Six>Champions>Fantastic Four>Thunderbolts>West Coast Avengers>Thanos and the Black Order
>>576780443This is the first game they have made with high system requirements because this is the first unreal engine 5 game they have made which is fucking garbage.
>>576780861One of these is not like the others...
this is already the most disappointing game i've ever played since FFXV
>>576779469nips only care about hand-written letters anyway
This game is insanely fun. Wish I could play it online, though. I just can't seem to hit 60 FPS, just stuck at 59. I mean SURELY there has to be some kind of band-aid fix in the meantime while arcsys fixes this shit. I've been looking around and tried several things but no luck yet unfortunately.
this is already the most fun game i've ever played since FFXV
>>576780894>ue5 game>runs like shitHow can we stop this from constantly happening...
>>576781328ironically the game ran better for me when I turned the graphics settings up instead of trying to keep everything low, I imagine because it's offputting more of the load to the CPU under the assumption my GPU isn't strong enough if I'm turning graphics settings down.
>>576772604She really is Zeta...
>>576779450Rate my picks /tokon/ bros>Groot and Rocket duo/puppet character where you control both separately at the same time>Cute anime swords-woman Gamora that's some sort of mix or stance character>Thanos as a full team replacement like Champ>She-Hulk grappler>Ultron as some sort of flier or air fighter like Goblin
>>576781662holy butterface
>>576781489>FFXV>Fun
>>576781495You cant every single dev has been convinced that shiny new unreal engine features makes it worth using but the engine is fucking terrible and nobody can optimize shit. Even Fortnite ran like fucking garbage when they ported it to UE5 and that is literally the UE devs trying to make an 8 year old game run on it.
>>576781798nta but FFXV is fun
>>576780997you could replace All Might with another Defender, but i think he'd be a very fun guest hero, and i know we're never getting an MHA FighterZ.
>>5767816761/10 cause no tranny character
Where do I go to learn combos that isn't the example ones from the combo trials or meme twitter combos
>>576782181the labpractice your sauce then add it to the mix
>>576781742you're crazy
>>576782105this game's version of cap feels very all might-coded already honestly
https://x.com/i/status/2085418990491615472
I'm not the All Might fag and I don't even like MHA but all might would be a kino guest character I have to admit. Make the reveal an anime cutscene of him anime punching the shit out of Caps shield because he thinks he's a bad guy or something.
its already startingthere are already talks on making all tourneys require PS5s (not that they werent already doing that on other games but still)
>>576782730thats disgusting. I want kamen Rider
>>576782730id kill for dekui know most people hate him but i love the character fuck tha haters
>cuckunah
>>576782853Most people do not actually hate Deku. He just has a very vocal hatedom in North America. Japan has always loved him.
>>576782730my fucking dawg, thank you!
>>576783263lol bro they won't get far enough into DLC to have any guest character past sol badguysony is for sure pulling development money and putting this game on life support first chance they get
This general is cursed Anime capeshit not even marvel, doomposting, I wish for character x reddit engagement bait
>>576782730>Trailer starts with Cap running through one of the city maps and he finds Carnage and Gob aleady beat up in the street>"Hey Tony, why'd you send me out here all the bad guys are beat up already?">"They are? Hmm that's weird.">Camera pans to the side and you see this over Caps shoulder
>>576782853i love Midoriya, but he's got so many powers at the end of the series. he would make for an interesting character, but i'd rather have All Might because he's a straightforward punching god.>>576782375interesting take! i'll have to consider this next time i watch some Cap gameplay.
>>576783402fine you wanna talk abou the game?how about that tournament they're having nowwhere every damned viewer can see how fucked the PC experience is with visible lag every couple of roundsembarrassing
>>576783531Game does suck true
>>576771003Fellas, how do I enter her dark portal?
>>576774672>paid game will not reach the numbers of when it was free to playThat's not that surprising
>>576783645its unironically a game killer in the current year because of how fast the public consciousness can bury a game if it doesnt get people hookedi mean, there are players still playing marathon so thats something, and im sure some hardcore FGC-heads will still be playing tokon but way to kill your possible gold-shitting goose by strangling its neck, Sony
They really put this nigga in tokon instead of dbfz
boy I sure hope blackboxing Magik's tits were worth it
Why's every pro playing Shuri? Game just came out how is there already an established meta?
>>576783408we gotta hear All Might say WATASHI GA KITA before it cuts to him! kino!
>>576783820adding to this, Sony's STILL reeling from that physical disc narrative, which means people who might've bought into Tokon will get wind of word of mouth and just boycott the game out of spite
>>576784102the sad part is in the past this shit would cause a rift between Sony and Marvel with how bad it makes Marvel look since this is 100% on Sony, but the need Spiderman for the movies so the partnership isn't going anywhere.
>>576773454>superior octopus color for spideyBased as fuck.
Why do i need to make a snoy account to play kamala
>>576784446Marvel? Isnt it just the Mouse now? Thought Marvel's been entirely absorbed into that corporate hive mind
>>576773454>that danger colorwell we know who is not getting in....
how do you do this one? everything i've tried doesn't work
>No GambitCmon man
>load up ranked match>it's some nigger mashing LLL autocombo and assists on cooldown>rollback 8f>desync everywhere
>8 colors>no venomOh yeah, he's coming.
>>576782805I want one of the Super Sentai that Marvel co-created. Battle Japan would be sick
>>576785191You have to to basically push both buttons at the same time. The game needs to register B before X but fast enough that you will push X before it does the guns special.
>>576786392thanks
Is it me or does Ms Marvel suck ass?No airdash feels really bad and trying to use her unique in neutral feels like a death sentence since you can't call an assist on whiff and you are also vulnerable to all the random shit on screen while flyingMaybe I need a new main...
>>576787107Ms Marvel and Danger are the only characters where their special movement mechanics detrimental and make them worse characters than if they just had normal shit.
>>576787676I hate this faggot so much
We're saved! He is going to make a video assblasting Sony and force them to fix the game on pc.
>>576783820this game has the benefit of the Marvel IPa bad launch for an original property is disastrous because they have no existing fanbase to keep them goingevery moderately popular character reveal for Tokon will get a ton of eyes because people will know the character
>>576771201There's a reason that when he finally "beats" JW's record with EVO wins that nobody beyond his faggots base are going to care.
>>576774253Anon, have you not seen how long it took for them to just make I-no's hover dash in Strive FEEL good? Four years. It took four fucking years. They hate hover dash. Why do they keep bringing it back even though they CLEARLY hate it? I don't know.
>>576788668Season 2 Thanos will bring in the 100k peak
>>576787107its weird that they make her gimmick suck when spiderman basically has the same gimmick but better
Stupid question but has anybody actually had a good time on Windows 10? I ran the game fine despite that in the beta.
Aight, day one tier list. Who's top 5 and who's bottom 5?
Whats a good team built around goblin?
this 100 levels of survival shit is fucking cancer
this game deserves to die as fast as possibleteach devs a lesson to not make dogshit product or work with sony
I like high mobility airdashers. My mains were grimnir in granblue, ahri in 2xko, and Bang in bbcf
>>576791058black panther might be your style
>>576790554top 5magikbladedoomspidermanblack pantherbottom 5dangerms marvelgreen goblinpenis parkerchampionidk this is my current thoughts im probably way the fuck off. i havent even played online because of the lag.
>>576791332>top 5 are easy to use>bottom 5 require labbingeasy observation I know
>>576790554I feel like any character in this game is playable/good tier with enough practice or support from their team. With the sole exception of Ms. Marvel and Danger, those two feel like their unique mechanics and movement are not only bad, but straight up griefs them and they would have been better off not having it or having normal shit.
So, is Magik the Baiken of this game?
>>576792281magik is actually good, so no
>>576792365>doesn't immediately think of +R baiken
I've been doing a little research but unable to find answers. Is this game woke?
Has anyone cleared all 100 levels of survival? This shit is agonizing.
>>576792281In terms of being the "main" of all the coomer larpers who dont actually play the game? 100% yes.
>>576792441If youre asmongold who shits their diapers and cries their eyes out over the mere existence of dark skinned people existing in videogames, then yes the game is woke.
>>576792396nobody who plays +r is playing this game or is in this thread
>>576792396+r baiken isn't baiken, it's some goofy mugen bullshit like +r zappa where we decided to turbobuff a character for literally no reason>hey this character has an extremely strong and annoying option (comically strong free guard cancels) but is in all other ways a pretty bad character outside of some cool neutral tools>lol lets give them extremely strong offense, pressure, and combos too
>>576792480The modifiers you get in survival looked extremely generic, I feel bad for the people who are trying to get the colors having to grind out so many games because arc sys wanted to run up engagement hours for collectors
Where the fuck is psylocke?
>>576792626Are they important characters or just side joke characters? This is important
>>576793438Storm, Black Panther, Blade, and Ms. Marvel so yes they're important.
>>576793862Thanks but no thanks I won't buy your game
>>576793862To be fair Blade can pass off as white but the rest are poorly written
>>576781328You're not stuck at 59 FPS nigga thats just how less detailed overlays shows you capped 60. They always do this and show 59.99FPS but this doesnt mean you miss that one frame.
>>576792626>dark skinned people >peoplelol. lmao even
>>576773454There it is. I knew it exists. It is decided then: Peni's permanently on the team.Man that makes me happy. That looks so neat.
Since the game flopped hard on steam it's going to be on a massive discount soon right?
I'm not normally a chart shitposter but the player drop off is absolutely insane, they probably have to fix the port this weekend to salvage it.
>>576799932You don't fix shit like this in a couple of days.
>>576799932A lot of people refunded for sure. They though all issues got fixed from beta and they fell for it again award so they refunded kek.
>>576800382They knew since the beta and chose to do nothing. They're not fixing shit.
>>576800646it's unironically better from the beta, I went from 90% cpu to more like 40-50%big problem is that a game that already cpu bottlenecks you and most peoples first move is to lower graphics settings, which just puts more of the game on your CPU because the assumption is your GPU sucks which is why you're lowering these settings, so just having the "set to defualt" settings and doing the shader preload gets me rock solid 60 fps
>>576801109Lowering graphic settings only increases CPU load if the framerate then increases. But the game is locked to 60 so that's not how that works.
>>576800646You also don't fix this in a week and a half.
>>576801228Never seen fighting game so CPU bound its weird. Rollback adds some CPU requirements due to how it works but not like this. You need to have CPU with fast cache and good single threaded performance for this game to run smoothly. There really is something fucked with this port be it that DRM called Theia,Sonys overlay being undercooked trash or something else or its simply splendid combination of all these things lol.
>>576801228and yet multiple people, myself included, have reported that lowering all the settings makes the game actually run worse
>>576801585Saw some guy on twitter claim that running the EGS on the background while playing fixed the issues. I think it's bullshit and my game is working fine anyway so I'm not installing sweeneyslop but I wouldn't be surprised if it actually workedSomething that actually helped for me was disabling the playstation trophies notifications tho
Anyone think they need to add a combo breaker in this game
>>576801962Oh wow this actually explains why I run it better than my friend despite having similar specs.
>5 seconds of neutral>into Black Panther slopping on me>"its ok she has a gap h-">assist>does it again, somehow block it>"its ok she has a gap h-">assist>does it again, somehow block it>"its ok she has a gap h-">assist>does it again, somehow block it>"its o-">swaps to other character and does a string with them>somehow block it>"its ok, he has a gap h-">assist came backGodlike gameplay. Tag trannies need to end themselves. We don't need a Burst/Combo Breaker, we need 10 of them.
>>576802313>Buy tag fighter>Complain about basic tag fighter gameplayRetard
>>576802394I can guarantee you the game would've done poorly even without the PC port issues, everyone would've mass refunded after trying a Spiderman pressure for 3 minutes
>>576801962This doesnt work.
>>576802313bro? your DP?
>>576803163Are DPs even invincible in this game
>>576803163The one everyone reacts to and the one that if baited makes you take a 70%? All the BP I see are always baiting for the counter and just react to the crossover
I have no faith that the port can be fixed, Arcsys have shown themselves to be absolutely incompetent on technical issues and this clearly isn't a straightforward problem.
>>576772609I find one who that is, but I agree.In the interest of making the game casual friendly, there are no good defensive options.And combos are too long
>>576779450characters I think will get in even though I don't particularly want them>Gladiator>Deathbirdchracters I want>The Fantastic Four (all)>The Beast>Squirrel Girl>The Stepford Cuckoos, Kid Omega, Cannonball & Sunspot>Rom the Space Knight>The Punisher & Nick Furycostumes I want>Xorn for Magneto>Joe Fixit for Hulk>Carol Danvers Ms. Marvel for Ms. Marvel
I like how doom colour 6 is just even greener
>>576783909The Champion as a character predates Dragon Ball as a whole. He’s always had that Saiyan fighting autism
>>576804829anything being older than Dragon Ball always throws me off. that's like being older than the Bible. lol
>>576804893lol, that being said, I like the obvious Gogeta and Broly references made in this game by the Champion
I like the single player content in this game . So far have completed episodes for the first 3 teams. The X Men episode comic had the worst art out of the 3.And fucking Hiro Mashima did the Avengers comic. We’re more likely to get a Fairy Tail guest character than All Might
>>576804824they retconned Xorn into just larping as Magneto instead of actually being him
>>576804824>>Carol Danvers Ms. Marvel for Ms. MarvelThey have completely different powers
>wake up>still no PC patchsigh...
>>576803327They're only air invincible. I don't see the point in using them when everyone's 2H is also air invincible and starts combos.
>>576806398not that anon but i get what he's saying. in many versions of her origin story, Kamala uses her powers to morph into Ms. Marvel or Captain Marvel when she first starts using her powers. then she meets the real Captain Marvel because Carol starts getting notified that someone is impersonating her and she goes to find out who it is. so giving her a costume where she's cosplaying Ms. Marvel or Captain Marvel wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility.
>>576806174I know, but I want it anyway>>576806398>>576806764oh I just mean her costume on Kamala. I wouldn't be surprised if Carol got in as her own character
>>576806764and here's a webm of Kamala disguising herself as Captain Marvel from the Future Avengers animated series.
>>576806764also, dude, that initial Ms. Marvel run is so good, it's like the one time a series being ended prematurely due to an event was a good story. She's not the kind of character I usually like but that first Kamala volume really did match up to the hype unlike a lot of the other Marvel Now crap
The game is solved already
TOKON DEEZ NUTS
https://x.com/JaeXlll/status/2085517334035284189 some nasty shit being discovered
>>576808049Magik will really be the indisputed top1 she has everything>top tier as leader>good assists in every position>great design>super popular
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMGMVW1cB9U
We seriously need just one more defensive mechanic and this game could be so good. I’m really loving everything else about it but defense is just so boring and uninteractive for the defender. Your options are “do the easily reactable alpha counter” or “wait until it’s over”.Give us burst, or give us pushblock, or make IB change frame advantage, just give us SOMETHING, it really feels like a huge oversight given how many defensive mechanics Arcsys has in their other games
>>576809551no pushblock is stupid, i also would've liked a one time burst per match that doesn't refill
>>576809551I don't agree. There's barely any cheap mix so blocking is fine and Guard Cancel is broken. Even if you fail and get countered you take like 5%, meanwhile you would have exploded in every other game.
>>576809551This. I’ve realized that defense isn’t bad, it’s just boring. Some people say there isn’t enough mix but if we’re going to get good mix we need more interactive defense as well.
>>576808049her playerbase is still going to do mids 24/7
>>576809697>Even if you fail and get countered you take like 5%You also lose access to your assists for some time which is really bad especially late game.
If I had a kid who liked fighting games I would never let him play Tekken. That game is in my DNA or something and all 2D games feel so degenerate and disrespectful compared to it.>oh hey you just got up off the ground? Well here's a low that looks like an overhead and if you manage to block that i'm gonna call an assist to jail you and then do an actual overhead after it, all while you are locked in the corner and if you make a mistake it will start a 40% combo!!!it's gonna take me forever to learn this game
>>576809551there's literally nothing wrong with just blocking
>>576778857>Will Tokon share the same fate as MvCI and fade into obscurity in under two years?Why are you implying MVCI lasted 2 years? That game died in six months
>>576809892Yeah, it's good that there's at least some kind of bad thing tied to it. And I looked over it again, it's not even 5% hp, more like 1% (plus in grey health), so literally nothing. Additionally to even do the counter to the guard cancel, the opponent needs to spend one assist bar, so overall you as a defender don't lose basically anything except assists for 5 seconds if you fail (you also exhaust their resources too), but get out of the pressure completely if the opponent fails the reaction check which can come at any time. It's clearly a broken defense tool in terms of risk reward for the defender I think.
>>576778857
Man I hope they’ll add Promoter
So Thor is basically coming with a story DLC?
>>576811193there are too many marvel characters to add to put new ones
>>576811523He's 100% year 1 DLCThe DLC team is called COSMIC ROYALTY and it's character are>Phoenix Cyclops>Thor>Gamora>Black Boltsource: my uncle works at sony
>>576811616Well she’s already there so it’s halfway done, I wait and cope.
need gambit after cyclops and I'll have my dudes
>>576810895How good is Kamala? Sorta thinking of buying this game for her
>>576811193I wouldn't even be mad if they put her in the season pass with a real moveset. Her and champion are both cool.
Which characters are looking to be the best points and anchors?
>>576813198She's alright, doesn't have an airdash but her slinging around stuff leaves her +
cursed game manyou guys are on here talking about DLC wishlists two days into release instead of finding sauce.
>that captain america colorDamn..just 100 waves of survival...
>>576814653Gwen doesn't deserve to be treated like that
>>576814351ew yuck, I hate sauce, I prefer to taste the ingredients the way they were intended
Penibros, what’s the tech?
>>576814751Nobody genuinely cares about gwenpool. Thats a chuddy reddit character. Somehow more chuddy reddit than actual deadpool
>>576814868Start > Character Select > pick a different character
>>576814751Dear god the “action” shots are so stiff and lack any sense of weight or momentum, American comic books are so trash
cap combos are too hard
>Bedman? players were downplayers>Vikala players were downplayers>Peni players are downplayersHmm, nyoticing a pattern here…
I was wondering why jumping felt so stiff. I was too used to SF6 where if you press UP then within 4 frames you press up+forward or up+back you will go into that direction. Here if you press up before forward/back even for 1 frame you just jump straight upI just have to be cleaner with my inputs I guess
https://www.twitch.tv/eduardo_hookhook grinding vs tranny fox
>>576815305Air combos in general are basically learn clean inputs or you're fucked since jumping 6H exists and if you do forward jump button you get 5H. The only time it's really easy is if they are in the corner and you can use the 2H autojump to go straight up and be at the perfect height.
no linux, no buy
>>576815725No poop, no butt
>>576815375>stable 79-80 ms wired connection, but almost near constant 2-3 frames of rollback, sometimes spiking to 5dogurashit game
>>576815375who?
>>576815375crazyass goblin
>>576814653Magik keeps getting shafted on these color alts bro while everyone else gets really cool references or just good colors
>>576816350Ms Marvels colours are bad too and they don't seem to match many other characters.
>>576816350Trannies don't deserve anything good lol
>>576816452what a horrible life to live where you see troons in everything you look at
you can actually change your char pose in team building options and also give them custom names
The Magik tod keeps getting easier and easier, theyve got to do something about the game.
>>576817315post it
They should have made a burst that disassembles your team for twice as long as getting it perfect countered
>>576814868https://x.com/Alicekazaki/status/2085562508534780131Learning another char besides her so you can use tag and rape
Am I missing a trick for the double down input? I’ll do the exact same input (even shows in the feed the same) twice and one time the special comes out and the next it doesn’t.
>>576817315Even if we ignore the technical issues, the game has severe problems.They should've just made it a 1v1 fighter instead of kuso tag shit.
peni combos are pretty fun with her pendulum but i have no clue how you'd win with her in neutral, you just do fireballs throw random bullshit and hope it hits
I see the vision, when game develops each team member will likely have a role (character for movement, for zoning, for mix, with big buttons) + switching on specific char match ups. 4v4 can be pretty kino if they continue with proper patches (first fix PC though)
>>576817959why does everyone always feature these shit ass corner splat combos, you're not always there
>>576815375>goblin got 4 way mix all of which he can feint
>>576819341>They should've just made it a 1v1 fighter instead of kuso tag shit.This is something people say pretty often about ALL tag games that came out in last 5 years lmao.
>>576815375>check stream>blocking retarded screen cluttered panther mixthis game might not be for me
>>576771201I'm watching his stream and he said he capped and Goblin has hooked him
>>576820447>Goblin and his retarded tranny inducing 4 way unblockable mix hooked himno wonder, he finally found a way to not interact with the opponent
>>576788949Man she looks so damn cool, why couldn't they make her playable?
>>576819028it's a speed thing, it's much stricter than other games that have 22 you need to be very quick.
soon to be mogged by strivedamn what a flop
>>576820518>tranny inducing mixwhat does this even mean
>>576820954it's a mix so unskilled you become trans by using it
>>576819628Yeah that’s a cool idea except a 2L from any character anywhere on screen does 50% so you never really get a chance to do all that team strategy stuff
>>576820998>another game where damage is too highthey really can't help themselves
who is the giovanna of this game?>insane ground speed>best whiff punisher in the game>insane neutral>stylish combos>hot af
>>576817492This one. The previous one from the beta had two portal sets and was harder, this one you can just mash everything out.
I don't think Peni is bad at all, I like that after using 214H in corner even against a breakable wall you can wallstick to continue the combo.Also a nice tag blockstring is 5M 5H 214L assist 5MMM and when Peni jumps in the air you tag into the assist, you can do strike throw or an airdash to mix since Peni is going to visually block most of you
>>576821174that doesn't seem that easy for me :3
>>576821152black panther
>>576820835Most Tokon players are on PS5
>>576820998>except a 2L from any character anywhere on screen does 50%no it doesnt
>>576821764???? bro?
>>576821851continue shitposting, sister
>>576821628>Most Tokon players are on PS5most Tokon players are marvelfags who don't even go online to play. they mash in story mode and quit after a week.
>>576820205Almost as if making a fighting game where every character can fill the screen with hitboxes without taking any risk is a terrible idea that goes against fighting game fundamentals.
>>576820818For some bizarre reason, it's really strict about pressing the attack button just as you press the second 2, but the two 2s can be spaced quite far apart. It's like custom-designed to be as strict as possible so it won't come out when you want but also so loose you get it accidentally.
>>576821764I agree, most characters get way more than a paltry 50% from 2L.
>>576822324Just saying nonsense
>>576822453probably to prevent accidental inputs because you would get clapped instantly doing most of those abilities in the wrong context
>>576822637But allowing the two 2s to be spaced far apart leads to accidental inputs, that was my point. It's both strict and loose at the same time.
>>576822580anywhere on the screen? false
>>576820205people are allergic to learning more than one character and Tokon has tools in the game to ease you into it since you can stick with one character and slowly branch into the others
>>576820447>Goblinyeah so he's picking the character no one will know how to fight against because it's the hardest to play thus less players and also has some insane zoning bullshittypical sonicfox
>>576817315>>576821174>ToD>requires minimum 100 metershow you actually pulling this in a match when your opponent isn't already half hp
>>576824135Yeah, how dare a pro player pick a character that gives him the greatest chance at victory when money is on the line. Picking a character is a skill.Sonicfox is an annoying retarded tranny faggot, but it's not because of the characters he plays, it's because of the way he behaves in public.
>>576824536>money is on the linelol tournaments where the prizepool is 100 bucks isn't money. fucking jeets make more doing uber eats
>>576824834In fact it’s possible to hit $80 an hour driving Uber if you live in a major city
>>576824834You think Tokon won't have a single tournament with a significant top prize?
This is your wakeup call to stop what you are doing now, go into training mode and lab every punish with your main against Spider-Man and Magik
>>576825157There are no good matchups against Magik because she has the highest damage in the game and is also the easiest character to play with massive buttons.Spiderman is mostly carried by his retarded overhead
>>576824536there is a difference between playing a game for the love of it and playing the game like a job to get moneyhe picks the most optimal choices because he is shit otherwise and leaves games before people start getting more practice after he's won a little bit of money
imagine playing this joke game kusoge competitively whose main purpose is stealing your data anf burning your rig
>>576825648>he picks the most optimal choices because he is shit otherwise and leaves games before people start getting more practice after he's won a little bit of moneyI mean sure, he's well-known for not sticking with most games, but if he is actually shit at fighters, how come none of the better people pick the same optimal choices he does and beat him? Being able to learn really fast and very quickly identifying the really grimy shit is a skill, I don't see how he's any less valid as a really strong player as someone who takes several years to get good. Again, he's a obnoxious fag because he flaunts his weird sexual fetishes in public and then cries harassment if you complain about it, and hating him is the sane position to have, but there is nothing particularly hateable about the way he plays these games.
>my saved team didn't save after restartingarcsys.......
>>576825157See this makes me wonder why certain characters make it past the drawing board and into the final product. Look at Star Lord, his design is maybe a little gay. Out of the huge multitude of gun based characters how does he get in over Cable or Punisher? It's not like there's a Guardians movie coming. And not just Tokon either, other games have character design issues and those ugly characters just don't get played.
That anon is right, only getting 87% from a 2L with your back to the wall is paltry.>>576822453You're right, makes a huge difference thanks.
can't believe how the movement is actually unironically worse than strive. There are characters like chipp and giovanna that have way faster run speed than anyone in tokon. Absurd
>>576826393This is only showing usage rates among like the top 1% of players. Usage rates at the top end are always skewed by who’s competitively viable or not, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t a bunch of casuals mashing with the “less popular” characters.
>>576826260Sonicfox is not bad at fighters, he is very good, but he is a fraud because he plateaus at a mid-high level and leaves the community when people start to overtake him his best game is actually just mortal kombat because it's the only one he gives a fuck enough to consistently play, but also most MK players even pros are just not very good at fighting games as MK is the "normie" fighting game franchise aka the gun and ball gamer fighting game
>>576826560I like how the game said “combo time out!” and she just completely ignored it and kept going for 10 more hits
>>576825083>You think Tokon won't have a single tournament with a significant top prize?it all depends on if Sony wants to fund a prize pool for it in the end. Maybe arcsys is willing to put some of their money up but who knows. In the end tournament prizepools are basically just part of the games marketing budget. It would be pretty sad if sony thinks they can make a premiere fighter by just spending on influencer sponsorship and expecting a grassroots scene to do the work running tournaments for them, but they did sell their stake in evo so until I see them announce support for it, no I don't believe there will be.
>>576826598Your airdash?
>>576826745Didn't he also compete for several seasons at DBFZ and isn't he also one of the best players in Skullgirls? I feel like people let their hatred of the furfag to override their reason and create this narrative of him being only good during release. Nobody does this for Punk or Leffen even though they also often compete at various games at release and then drop off as their fundamentals no longer carry them and they can't be bothered to lab.
>>576826893It's just a shitty label, it pops up when you go into the red zone of the combo bar. I assume it's a warning and doesn't actually affect scaling or anything. There's also a red particle effect flash on the second last hit which forces the next hit to end the combo.
>>576826560are you really going to confirm 2L-5H-w/e in a real match?
>>576826560>all these specificationsKeep being dishonest sis
>>576827256>are you really going to hit a ~30f confirm…yes?
>>576827256You can confirm 5H by itself for counterhits into 214M it's not a tight game. And you're probably doing 214L on block v 214H on hit so it's not hard.
>>576827256>are you really going to hit [combo that starts with your jab]?lol
I’m not too deep into tag games but basically once the screen shakes I press the assist tag to extended my combo is that it?
>>576827613Trannies shouldn't be teachers because trannies being around children is dangerous. Man thing should crush her head
>>576827073well Leffen is a stupid fag who drove someone to suicidehe actually put in a bit of effort for DBFZ but still dropped it once he started losing morehe hasn't played skullgirls in years
>another braindead character with fuck huge normals and high damage that people vehemently downplaysasuga arcsys
>>576827613This game extending combos with tag is basically automatic, it doesn't take timing. Just hit the button when you wanna extend after a move.
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zamn is that an all resources in the game plus the strongest one time giga comeback super combo that you will ever do once a match doing big damage?? this game is le broken...
>>576827073Sonic fox fell off of DBFZ after like season 2.He left strive after before Strive season 1 ended.No one plays skullgirls.He only really competes in dead games.This isn't some targeted hate towards him, it's a well known thing in the fgc, he just farms small scenes.Punk is good at the largest arguably the most competitive fighting game being street fighter.That's where your comparison drops off. People don't hate on SonicFox because he wins some games, it's that the only games he plays are small games, and he usually jumps ship early in bigger games.People clowned on Leffen for sucking ass at street fighter.
Is Wolverine shit at opening people up or what should I be doing?
>>576826745Your ninjakilla who's currently the only American who's making it into top 8s for tekken?
>>576829185>Punk is good at the largest arguably the most competitive fighting game being street fighter.he's an old man now and can't do shit vs 14-15 year olds though. >ITS LE SETUPwashed old man
>>576829452do his overhead but its pretty slow imo
>>576828324It does 75% if you start with 90 meter for the regular darkchild super and 60% doing a different route without the install starting at 40 meter. And you get boatloads of meter for breaking the wall, calling assists in combos, slumps etc you're usually going to have access to a super. It's a very high damage game.
>>576828287Did he really
>>576827017not much of a difference desu
>>576829594Yea I been trying to use it but like you said it’s so fucking slow people can react before it even comes out or it whiffs
danger and doom seem like a cheap combohttps://www.twitch.tv/orumen
>>576829452Wolverine just sucks dude. He might be the worst claw type character ever in a fighter and it’s hilarious because he’s the original claw character if I’m not mistaken.I miss drill claw and his dive kick
>>576829775Trainingmode only sis...
This game would be great if the movement didn’t feel so fucking sluggish. Also I have to use one button dash because idk wtf is up but the inputs work when they want to for me.
>>576830834I can deal with the movement. I just can’t stand how unresponsive the tag and assists are in this game.
>>576830834Personally I enjoy the sluggish pace, I can’t follow what’s going on in the average anime fighting game
>>576830834Granblue + bbtag ass movement. All these dbfz comparisons and dbfz neutral felt amazing.
literally, literally 90% of the time I'm getting hit in neutral is when I'm trying to call a fucking assist and nothing happensfucking DBFZ and 2XKO have SILKY SMOOTH assist calls why is this game SO FUCKING JANK
Man who gives a fuck about pc. Better get your ass a ps5, nigga.
>>576832216you're going insane in all fg threads about tokonare you okay?
I'm new to this combo system, I don't know if it was in DFBZ and I never played that. Do you try to exclude mediums and lights from aerial combos? Because I'm getting good results from doing that, like simpler combos with comparable damage. And i noticed a couple combo trials are like that too, using mostly heavies in the air.
>>576832714>you're going insane in all fg threads about tokonhe's having more fun than people playing tokon
>>576833557Im having a blast
>faggot has 8 rbf>he also ragequits the moment I rape him despite the lagthe absolute state
>discord buddies refunded on steam to then get the PS5 versionFUCK its workingi forgot FGC addicts have no integrity if they like something
>no combos up on dustloop yet
>>576834468It really makes me wonder what causes these issues on pc, I had no issues in the beta or the actual game, the people I play with also had none and our pcs are all over the place
>>576834468I’ve played all my fighting games on PC in the past but this is the first one I got on console
Forward roll is so potent, why even give Goblin the option to use bombs? Kuso.
this game makes me want a thumb button for my 8 button stick layout more than dix, what the fuck were they thinking using that many
>>576836856theres gotta be a setup with goblin where you can end a combo in roll distance and setup a bomb if they don't roll
I wish there was a push block. I have no idea wtf to do when black panther has me in block string and an assist is behind her
>>576837184There is, but with there's also a chance you get the bomb without the hitbox. Useless.
>>576837728Crossover, buddy.
>>576771003lmaooooo
>>576838003lol
I hope Sony buy ArcSys and make all their future games console exclusives
>>576838003Fake mechanic enjoy disassemble
What do you use to confirm into from stray hits as Peni? The BnB I've settled on starts with 2M>2H> j.214M, but I've been having a difficult time confirming consistently into the j.214M in real match situations. I was thinking of going straight into 623M after the 2H, but I feel like I have to call an assist right after and then I have a difficult time going corner to corner without burning more resources.
>>576840306You go to character select and pick someone else
is half the roster not able to convert 5H into 2H unless you're point blank? this is tilting me
>>5768403062m 2h 623m jM jc jMM assist freestyleor you can just do 2M 5M 5H 214L assist 236M/H and continue
>>576811817>thinking Marvel will let Inhumans see the light of day again let alone as paid DLCI wish anon
im hard stuck platinum
>>576837852The bombs aren't random you retard.
ghost rider is busted busted lmao hold this fullscreen high low rekka that leads to oki + 2 touchthey made the zoner character a mixup monster
>>576840479You can just jump cancel the 5H if you did 2M before
>>576841038>they made the zoner character a mixup monsterFirst ArcSys game?
>>576828287I mean it has been a couple of days now. that's how long he usually lasts in new games.
>>576841357in dbfz they waited until s4 to make baby and freeza busted as fuck
uohhh penni cunni
>>576841495Dizzy has been zoning and mixing people in one package for like two decades now. It’s always been an Arcsys specialty
>>576834468based Tōkon supporters. 10 more years of Tōkon!
>>576842057what costume can she even getshe is almost always in the mech anyway, might as well make her naked, won't see anything still
I was playing Wolverine but he’s so boring. How hard are Deadpool combos?
Idk if you guys were still wondering but I got color 7 doing survival
>they literally say toukon on the startup menu>Amerifats still say toe-CON
>>576842929how long did it take
>>576843338I got 100 wins in it
>>576815375Don't you dare call the furry faggot a trannyTranny are superior
Why do some characters spread their ass and scream "HEY I'M ABOUT TO DO AN OVERHEAD" like Cap or Ms. Marvel while others are sneaky and almost undetectable like Black Panther, Spiderman, Goblin?
>>576844114its called game design
>>576821174this is a literally impossible combo you fucking moron, you cant use darkchild and tokon assemble in the same combo outside of training mode, you spent a total of 325 meter while only building about 25
>>576778857X, Jedah, Sigma, Monster Hunter and Ultron were such cool choices. Shame they were in MVCI and not a better game.
>>576844462MonHun is cool but her voice is the most annoying thing I've ever heard come out of a computer
>>576780443I think the only Arcsys game that has a benchmark you’re required to run before going online is +R and that’s a PS2 game.
>>576843131Nobody has time to say tohhhhhhkonn.Like what the fuck. We get it, there's a longer O in there. Now stop pronouncing it and move on to the rest of the word already.
>>576826560oh this one too, you really gotta learn the game before you post about it. I'm not asking much just simple shit like knowing how your moves work before posting training mode only combos like it's a sign the game sucks when the game has enough actual problems to bitch about instead, fucking moron
>>576778857nah. MvC:I was a disaster with almost no redeeming qualities. Tōkon already shattered its concurrent peak player count. and it'll only grow when the PC version gets fixed.
>>576778857the sentiment around mvci was "you HAVE to play this game" while the sentiment around tokon is "I WANT to play this game"
>>576826560Oh no, when you are down two games and have all of your bar and haven't used your assemble, you can almost win one round by spending it all at once. Clearly this is a huge issue.
i don't see any neutral being played. It's either wait for assist or moves so big that occupy the whole screen you don't even need to space them and no usage on movement to maneuver around the opponent. Am i missing something?
I stopped playing shitty ass Wolverine and went to cap and now the games fun
>>576845030Avoiding what the opponent throws at you while trying to lock them down IS neutral
>>576781676Groot/Rocket as a duo like they are in MUA3 would be interesting! would help set him apart from his MVC3 counterpart, too.Gamora's also a good pick.Thanos as a full team replacement is based. i want the same thing for All Might.grappler She-Hulk is my favorite of your suggestions. i need you Jen!and Ultron's on my wishlist, too. fingers crossed, bro.great picks!>>576779816Sabretooth and Venom would be sick.>>576780436i appreciate (You), Emma appreciator!>>576804824do you want the Stepford Cuckoos as one character or separately?
>>576845030>you call assist>I jump over/around it and am shooting at you from the air, tagging your assist and possibly you as well unless you also go into the air and try to contest me>but then I actually predicted you were gonna do this and instead do an air to air>but then you instead just ran up along the ground and made that whiff>but I had a delayed assist call to try and check you>but you hit DP to tag assist + me in the airsounds like neutral to me,what you're missing is the decisions are being made so fast you don't understand them because you only understand how to play games with cement shoes and pokes that lead into nothing
>>576845030>i don't see any neutral being playedwho gives a shit
Magik wall ass scenario where she's stuck in her portal and the enemy team goes to town on her!!
>>576844114Black Panther's overhead is accompanied either her turning yellow and doing a mid first with no option for a low afterwards or her having a bunch of glowing particles surrounding her as she launches herself forward. Both are pretty massive tells.
>>576844409You can cancel the installs in the game into Tookon assemble if you had enough meter before you installed, retard.
>>576845030It's a tag game, spamming assists while you play 'floor is lava' is the neutral. They originally wanted to avoid this so you couldn't call grounded assists while airborne, but all the tagslop enjoyers complained that they couldn't spam assists while playing 'floor is lava', so here we are.
why the fuck did they make carnage not have a grounded dash
>>576846478they need to make it so assists actually cost assist meter because this entire game boils down to superjump mash assist
dead shit game
game shit dead
Can you not jump cancel during a block string?
>>576847406if you superjump you get the garbage divekick assists though?
People have been complaining about the lack of defensive mechanics, but I think the fact that NO character has a meterless DP indicates that they intentionally wanted defense to be weak for whatever reason
>>576847406What's superfun is that you can also call assists in combos without it costing meter by jump-canceling your normal, calling the assist during jump-start-up because for some reason that doesn't cost bar, and then canceling the jump-start-up with another button. So yeah, I would say the mechanics need a lot of work still, but considering it's ArcSys, there is very real possibility that they'll just lean into this shit and continue to up the power until every character can do easy ToDs from any hit and and the game degenerates to "fill the screen with shit and hope you hit the opponent before they hit you".
>>576847879>but I think the fact that NO character has a meterless DPthe universal counter is basically one
>>576828287>>576838014This is anti marketing
>>576847879People complain about the lack of defensive mechanics in every fighting game
I feel like I’m hindering myself by pretty much just playing one solo character with assists
>>576848058Not really. “Offense is too strong” is technically a different complaint. Lots of people have complained that offense is too strong in Strive for example, but no one has ever accused it of not giving you enough to do on defense. Burst, FD, IBFD, deflect shield, YRC. Plus meterless DP if your character has that. Tokon is really noticeably lacking here compared to basically every other Arcsys game
>>576847918>make game mvc3 but casual>dont remove the horrible neutral that keeps casuals awayJust make it so you can't call 3 fucking assists by mashing the A button without any resource and like 3 second cooldown. I'm fighting people that constantly abuse this and perma tag in and out for left/right mix and it's so degen
>>576847736You can only jump cancel on hit, not on block
are there any rules for combos with like spiking down from air combos or wall splatting etc?
Scrub here. I really don't want to use the smash bros input. And it's going ok for the most part. But man the level 3 technical input is killing me.Like I did Danger's final combo trial and it ended on fucking 214M, hold 6, 412364MH. Like that is three 4s and two 6s in rapid sequence. My thumb is still spasming in approximate half circles from trying to input all that shit in maybe half a second.Man, I really don't want to bind quick skill just to cheat at supers. I like my current layout.Then again maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot when everyone's just gonna spam with QS in neutral.
>>576848539tokon doesn't need 50 specific get off me mechanics because you have actual movement to get away from someone + extremely spamable assistsif someone is sitting there locking you down with all their assists in a blockstring crossover is free because when assists are on cooldown you can't counter it, it also has completely meterless invincible frame 1 backdash counter and midair superdash thing + armored overhead. what the game doesn't have is a 1 size fits all "call the teacher to break up the fight" mechanic but instead different options for different situations so that defence isnt giga autopilot and offence isn't "bait out the 1 bullshit thing they're naturally going to be mashing on me"
>>576849056Crossover and backdash counter both cost meter.
>>576848952the only "you can only do X once per combo" rule is the wallsplat on unbreakable walls, there doesn't seem to be any hitstun decay at all and instead the combo is entirely decided by the meter under the counter (which rises much faster from autocombos and moves you've already done in that same combo), which you can extend by using EX moves (which dont rise it), assists (which lowers it a little) the previously mentioned wallsplat (which completely resets the meter to 0 1 time) and just active tagging into someone else to pick up the rest of the combo (which counts as new moves so they scale hardertldr: use all your specials, use assists, use EX moves and you can make combos go much longer
>>576838014This is actually a plus for the game. Not having to see Maxishillian will make people want to buy it and play it more.
>>576849267they cost a meter that you get for free by doing nothing with multiple ways to instantly refill it, instead of the regular super meter that you get by interacting with the other player ala the meter in guilty gear
Any l good wolverine players to steal tech from?
>>576849473He's still playing it on playstation. He just fled from the PC netcode to his playstation and turned crossplay off.
>>576838014Dude I don’t understand you niggas, people were already complaining it was shit on pc during the beta so why would you not just get it on ps5 if you have the option? Are people that autistic towards Sony? This is legitimately retarded
>>576848058Its very bad in Tokon, man.
>>576849337You also can't use the same EX move to extend twice in the same combo, using the same EX twice causes the combo meter immediately max out.
crossover deflect is dogshit i'm already countering it 9 times out of 10the armored backdash thing is busted tho it should NOT counter grabs as well
>>576849804>crossover deflect is dogshit i'm already countering it 9 times out of 10I got blown up pretty bad by someone who would just wait until I called assist and then hit it so I cant counter, it appears to hit fucking fullscreen unlike every other similar mechanic ever so it shuts down a lot of lazy "idk call assist and throw something at them from fullscreen" gameplans
>>576849678It’s bad for the small amount of people that have a pc and no ps5, but that’s it. And with how expensive pc parts are due to the ai bubble, less people have decent specs on their pc
>>576849804Doesn't really matter when it's tied to the same input as crossover (which is a suicide button) and detecting when you are allowed to armored backdash and when you can only use crossover is nearly impossible due to how wacky blockstun is in this game.
>crossover badlol lmao
Why do the lolis always have to be low tier…
unlocking champ is just do 1 story mode right, not everything?
>>576851319she's a big body with 0 positives
>>576849645Honestly a smart move. If I had a PS5 I’d do the same. Too many people on favelatops ruining online.
>>576847879>that they intentionally wanted defense to be weak for whatever reasonIt's literally this, they want you to be able to spam airdash and assists brainlessly at people and get in easilyThey have wall break and 3 rounds so people can cope about getting to play more, but their goal was to make a fast paced game, not to let you play defense and more neutral
Why is there no mechanic to break getting combo'd to death?There should be a mechanic to spend a geen bar to stop getting destroyed by a 47 hit combo.
>>576852212>a geen bar>singularcalm down hitler
Calling assists in this is so uncomfy
>>576849678PS5 requires you have PS+ to play online
>>576852357You should be able to use crossover during combos, but if they counter it you get megastunned, allowing them to reset the combo with a starter of their choice. The babymode combos would suddenly get a lot more interesting.
>>576851685They remade Strive Faust?
>>576853597>but if they counter it...which always happens and would also always happen
>>576853853You have to focus a lot more during difficult combos than you have to when doing auto-pilot pressure when the only thing you are looking for is the crossover. I would personally argue that perfect counter during combos would happen less, but idk maybe I'm wrong and everyone would learn to always perfect counter after a week. Also you would have to save 1 assist bar for the counter if they had any bars of their own, which would make resource management a smidge more interesting.
>>576853702yes actually since they both throw random bullshit
>>576844740>>576844409Just went into versus to test it and you can cancel in the install into the ultimate as long as you installed with 150 meter. Why does the game make you seethe so much?
eating toe nails > tokon pc
Who the fuck am I gonna play? I'm just farting around on character after character. I like Storm and did her combo trials but she's too medium kickey, I like G.Rider's buttons but he feels like a neutral avoiding bitch-lord. Anyone else feeling indecisive?
I just wanna play online but every match is fucking unbearable 75% of my games are 4+ rollback why are arcshit and snoy like this aaaaaaa
is doing the 100 floor arena challenge a good way to learn the game? playing against other players and losing just feels bad
>>576855003nyodo the combo trials insteadthey'll teach you the combo structure of the game really well
>>576855003Play against other players and win, it's the best way to learn the game IMO.
>getting timed out on rematchIt's like day 3 what the fuck is wrong with people.
>>576840573Inhuman fans will now feel the same pain X-Men fans felt last decade
>>576855003I do stuff like that to get my muscle memory in good but best way is playing other ppl and losing. It’s just a game it’s not that serious. Nobody cares about your w/l
>>576855003Playing against other people is really the only way to learn. If it’s your first fighting game then you’re simply going to lose a lot, you just have to accept it. This is not an instant gratification genre. It’s like learning an irl sport, you can’t just pick up a golf club on your first day and go out and beat varsity team players who have been playing for years. HOWEVER the flip side of that is that if you put in the time and effort then fighting games are EXTREMELY rewarding, the exhilaration of improving and conquering new milestones is something you won’t get from any other genre.So yeah you really just have to go out there and dive into it, but if you’re getting hung up on the controls and just performing basic actions then training mode and fighting against the CPUs will allow you to get a handle on that stuff.
all doomniggas know how to do is jump back spam assists and shoot lasers
why do my assists NEVER FUCKING COME OUT IN NEUTRAL
>>576857152skill issue
>>576857143Beating those people is so delicious because you know they’re crying the whole time about how the game is BS and doesn’t let them win with “honest neutral”
>>576779450>Sinister SixDoctor OctopusKravenSandmanMysterio>Guardians of the Galaxy ThorRocket & GrootNovaVenom>DefendersDoctor StrangeDareDevilMoon KnightSilver Surfer>X-ForceCableHope SummersPsylockeNightcrawler>MaraudersMister SinisterMystiqueRogueGambit
>>576855003I mean it's a video game. You can fuck around with it however you want. Bots may be a bit unrealistic in terms of blocking, input reading and so on. So they teach you bad habits on offense. But you're still moving around, you're still making inputs and you can combo and try stuff out. It's probably not the fastest way to get good at climbing ranks, but it'll still make you more familiar with the game. And whatever mode keeps you interested and stops you from immediately dropping the game is probably the right one for the time being.
>knock down person>immediately recovers, 0 time to do oki, relax or anything, nigger already in your face by spinning>in particular doing oki is EXTREMELY HARD, the recover timing is completely off and super fucking weird every time>assist spam literally recovering in 3 seconds>armored overhead/universal flight can give you a full combo>some characters have access to retarded mixup, others... don't and suck dick>you can spam all universal mechanics and assists in strings as much as you want because the assemble gauge is given for free for some fucking reason>inputs still weird and clunky, specially tagging outGoddamn this game is ass.
>hope summers
just push 2m you dumb anime girl poster it's not hard
>>576857596i'm in fucking vibranium 3 i dumpstered mystic smash 30 minutes ago
>>576857716I’ve only played for an hour or two but something about the wakeup timing is fucking with my muscle memory, I’ve yet to successfully meaty someone. I think it’s way longer than I’m expecting
>>576857795Yes.
>>576857978Yeah it's pissing me off hard, it's just weird.
>>576857795It was really unfortunate they based a decade of X-Men stories on a character that was just kinda a little bitch. I mean, AvX being the conclusion also didn't help any, but you know.
There is no way to just buy the fucking Cap classic skin without buying the Ultimate Edition?
why is there like a year long delay to calling assists after getting out of hitstun in neutrali get why it's there in the first place but it feels egregiously long in a game that's already incredibly offensively oriented to start with
>>576858357nop
>>576855003It’s fine for practicing consistency, but not great for much else.
How the FUCK do I use Loki’s Frigga’s Grace or his DP vertical projectile thing?I see there’s the mix with dive out of L Frigga’s but that shit is just getting 2Hd and all I can find for the projectile is some corner extensions with the EX version and maybe a use case for M as a meaty after combo limit hard knockdown. Am I retarded?
I have a really hard time converting hits into the good BnBs I've practiced. This is basically my first tag fighter and everything feels chaotic. Will it just click later even if I just default to easy combos or do I need to grind out getting good at confirming into more optimized combos?
>>576859607theres assit delay after & before EVERYTHING. clunky and does nothing
>>576860353yest. first tag fighter for me toothere's just many, characters are not that simplistic as you'd expectin general though most combo structure is the same, you just have to learn it and then you can do a combo with any character
Weekend didn't save the chartsBelow 1k daily soon
>>576860540>Weekend didn't save the chartswere you expecting it to?
>>576860540Deserved for releasing the game with Spiderman, Blade and Goblin in the current state
>>576860353>just default to easy combosYes, this is the best way to get comfortable early on while you're getting comfortable moving around in neutralBest tip to remember is that combos only matter when you get a hit on someone
theres no better feeling than that combo that used to feel impossible slowly becoming easier and easier
>>576860448>>576860976Guess I'll just do the 2M>2H>Air combo>Assist>repeat into wallbreak until things start to feel easier then.
>>576860540its a console game nigga stop looking at the charts. if we dont hit 1 million in the first week then you can call it a flop.
anyone here know what deadpool's air backdash is based on? been trying to find an answer but absolutely nothing anywhere
>>576857152you can't do it while you're using any attacks
>>576861995looks like a dio pose
22 inputs in this game have to be the biggest pile of shit ever
>>576862293yep
how to cheese survival mode?
>>57686229322 inputs are the biggest pile of shit ever in every fightanwhy devs keep forcing this is beyond me
>>576860323You can use M DP as oki after certain buttons at the right distance, will force them to block even if they roll out of the corner.Assuming Frigga's Grace is 22X, I personally haven't found much use for it beyond combo fodder, 22 into fireball into assist will do more damage than just fireball into assist.
>>576862665Older players hating on 22 inputs while also hating dash macros will never cease to confound me.
system mechanic parry also parrying throws is stupidassists refresh way too quickly and there's no reason to hit assistsneutral is extremely degenerate in ways that would make beta 2xko blushiad is too strong for how weak antiairs arespiderman/ghost rider/magik are designed in a way that its hard to believe they weren't intended to be top tiersinconsistent stage design was a bad decision. all stages should have wallbreaks or none of them should.tags whiff and just don't go off in very unclear circumstancesthis game is ass
>>576860323since 22H keeps you on the ground you can cancel it into stuff that can't be 2H'dthe M dp with the many orbs is a really good active tag fodder
>>576862495Presumably ranged spam with iron man or danger. Leave the mode after every boss fight when it asks you to continue. Then force quit the game every time you're about to get boddied and only lose the progress since the last boss.Also pick up Wolverine soul for a ton of health regen.
>>576863576you can literally 2H half the shit spiderman and ghost rider do on reaction btw because spidey zips leave a gap and ghost rider shit all has gaps or extended hurtboxes
I feel like a retard because I keep getting hit by people mashing 2H on wakeup.
>>576863576>neutral is extremely degenerate in ways that would make beta 2xko blushLet's not go completely overboard with our criticisms. This shit is ass, but it's nowhere near as ass as 2XKO was, or is even currently.
>>576863958Riskier to do but also magik pressing buttons after spaced fireball.
this game would've beaten DBFZ's peak concurrent if the PC release wasn't brokensony sabotaged it
>>576862293Newbie here. Why do you have to press the button at the same time as the second down input? It feels weird. I thought it would be down, down, button. But it's down, down + button. I keep having to remind myself it works like that.
>>576864136because then youd' accidentally be doing special moves when you just wanna move quickly and input a normal
how the fuck do I change my name
>>576864136>Why do you have to press the button at the same time as the second down input?Because the game's input interpreter is dogshit. It works as you thought in other games.
>>576864868You have to verify your snoy account.
>>576864868go in main menu settings change profile and from there
I saw something someone uploaded with a few ways to get some mix with Iron Man, does anyone know what I'm talking about? I'm trying to get Iron Man down before moving on to learning the rest of my team and the biggest issue I'm having is I don't know how to open people up with him.
>>576860785There were people on release day that somehow thought it was going to hit over 30k today>>576637553>>576637857>>576638276
>JUST WAIT FOR THE WEEKEND THE GAME WILL BOUNCE BACKlmao fucking retards on 4chan are always wrong, never change
>>576865394I feel like chartkeks of any kind don't even play the game
>>576865432did anyone actually say this
>Go around singleplayer modes like survival and such for an hour to see if the game can actually run well>Get some rare slowdowns every 5 to 10 minutes, say whatever, it's not super bad if I stick to casual matchmaking as it's stable outside of that>First match, crossplay with ps5 guy, first round is perfectly stable at 60fps>The game just straight up freezes my computer at the last round and I have to forcibly restartAre you seriousHow is that even possibleThe game was running well for so longHell, my PC is still relatively cool with the fans not blasting at the highest speed they can go
>>576865394They didn't realize just how bad the technical problems were.t. also thought we'd break 30k
>>576865485I was there Gandalf, I was there 3,000 minutes ago>>576637508>>576637553>>576637857>>576638276>>576638694 this is me>>576638921>>576639010>>576639025 this guy was the biggest retard there
>>576865875I'm going with>>576865457anyone who even knows what the steam count is for a game is a certified nonplayer.
Alright I need 3 assist cucks for magik, who are the best ones?
>>576866035shooter whoever you like. maybe a 2nd character you know how to playair blade/magneto/ms marvel/iron manassault blade/goblin/spiderman
>>576865394You only get one first impression and the open beta was it for a shit ton of people - it was an unplayable messa marvel arcsys game should have done DBFZ tier numbers but it completely flop instead very sad!
>>576866141Doom mag blade it is sick thanks
>>576866354mag is also good as assaultin general assault is all assists that last long or allow you to do mix
>>576865394These folks probably thought the PC port's problems would've been fixed or at least had some band-aid fixes by the time the weekend rolled around, but clearly that was pure copium.
This genre is dead with the flop of Tokon. The only thing left is Virtua Fighter and we all know how well those do
>>576865017that was it thanks
>>576866547Just for a while until NEXT BIG THING is announced
>>576865394>IT'S DAYTIME IN THE SUMMER, GAMES NEVER PEAK IN SUMMER ONLY WINTER>IT'S EST TIME, PST IS WHEN REAL FIGHTERS COME OUT TO PLAY
>>576866737the last of the big things is VF. nothing else is leaked or announced, this is it for another 5+ yearsif you dont enjoy SF6 or Tekken 8 then either wait 10+ minutes for a match or play another genre, Sony completely fumbled everything
>>576866419Good to know, I’ll mess around with it a bit and figure out how to mix others down the line
>>576863996You poor soul that doesn't realize you're playing a version of 2xko with smaller stage sizes, less screen space, bigger more degenerate buttons, specials, and assistsI think the only thing I've seen diff so far is that left rights are weaker and sandwiches are not as common
what the hell does anyone gain by being a 2xko shill
>>576866823My god you're so fucking dramatic. I don't even wait 10 minutes for a ranked match in fucking EU for Granblue (actual close to Discord fighter tier), this game is going to do fine. Everyone wanting it to be THE STREET FIGHETER 6 KILLER HOLYYYYYYYYY was retarded.
2xko has better movement than tokon and I hate THAT GAME
>>576867036chinese yuan deposited directly in their bank account
Tokon is going to peak in about 3-4 hours. It's the weekend. Everyone is spending time outside atm.
>some people claiming the game performs better on EGS than steamprobably bulslhit but tempting to buy the game on EGS there and refund before 2 hours
In the next 3 hours 70k players will boot up their PCs and open Marvel Tokon Fighting Souls and play Black Panther with 8 rbf, just you watch.
>>576867036Social Credit
Does the "Team building" function not work for anyone else? It doesn't save teams between sessions so I whenever I close the game it clears my saved teams.
Can't imagine the game actually being fixed right? The fact that they said they were going to fix the problems from the beta makes it worse they literally have no idea what the issues are.
>>576866141the actual best anti air assist is champion
>>576868073nope loldogshit pc optimization, broken spectator mode, teams don't save
>>576868073>>576868865I have the issue where when I reset in training mode they swap order of the characters around for some reason
PC patch?
combo theory is kinda funny in this game you just do your character's 3 special moves in a single combo and that's it you're doing more than enough damage to 2 touch
>>576868073This was bothering me too so I did a bit of testing.From what I can tell it does save your teams as long as you only use the colors unlocked by default. If any member of your team is using Color 05-08 the team will be deleted after closing the game.Yeah it's stupid
>>576869312I want them to add Venom, but only the Mary Jane Venom.
>>576869280it sucks because it's boring for people who are already good at fighting games and it's still too hard for retards that lack the genei'd rather have these easy basic routes do less damage and then be forced to tag more / be more creative
>>576869247No where to be seen
tokon is legit some of the most fun i've ever had in a FG and its so fucking gay how sabotaged its been by sony
>>576789772Another reason I hope bbstrive never becomes a thing. Izayoi gutted front-to-back. Everyone will be pozzed, they'll add a nigger character at launch, he'll become noel's lover, Rachel will wear a burka, platinum will never be added back to the game, makoto will have her underboob removed and receive a general breast reduction--hell who am I kidding they'll make her trans.I just fucking hate soiive and that impotent washed up hobo, Itchywatertree, who is responsible for it's blight upon this demi-plane of PISS.
>>576869280>that's it you're doing more than enough damage to 2 touchif you want to blow 150 meter, and then cant spend any on ex moves for neutral/pressure. swapping to another character entirely to do THEIR three special moves scales the combo scaling back a lot
>>576870197you like tag fighters?
>>576870292idk I just play starlord and I end with the ice restand whenever I can
>>576870348kinda, but i like THIS tag fighter a lot!i went to my first ever local today and ended up playing like 40 games vs the best arcsys player in the region (he played hulk in tokon and beat me 40 times in a row) and it was some of the most fun i've had. irl fgs are amazing
>>576867036izzat
>>576869441maybe something like an assist freezes the combo meter the same way EXs do, but tagging and continuing the combo with a new character is how you deplete it the way assists currently do. That way if you go for a higher damage combo, you're forced to switch characters
>>576868701>literally have no idea what the issues arethe issue is PSN SDK
>>576870636hey at least you had fundon't mind the sabotage too much I think the game will do fine
>>576870636>i went to my first ever local today and ended up playing like 40 games vs the best arcsys player in the region (he played hulk in tokon and beat me 40 times in a row) and it was some of the most fun i've had. irl fgs are amazingthis is bait, tokon sucks and you didn't go to any local
>>576870909why would i lie about any of that
I dont know who to pair with ms marvel and its making me have decision paralysis and so Ive only done a lot of combo trials
I've had a few people rematch me a bunch of times in a row now so I'm pretty confident I'm not lagging but it doesn't stop pretty much every game from feeling like shit.
>>576870947cause you brown shills need izzat to survive and are hoping some dumb tranny or gay nigger gives it to you
>>576871192i'm running ms. marvel/magneto as a core. it seems pretty good
>>576871486You sound unhinged
>>576871642you type brown
if my fps counter is staying at a solid 60 the whole game, and yet it's still eating shit with rollbacks and slowdowns, it's 100% the other guy right?
Fuck arcshit.
champ has to go through too many hoops to build up to broly mode, but his anti air assist is comically good
anyone played deadpool yet? how is he
Cracked version when?
>>576872375>his anti air assist is comically goodexplain further
Popping in to ask if they fixed the PC port or found ways to stabilize the frame rate. Ignore me if not. I have nothing bad to say and I just want to play this game.
>>576872818no and people are getting desperate for solutions they're saying things like having EGS run in the background helps or playing on EGS instead
>>576872818Few tips coming out here an there, the thing about opening EGS while the game is running if you already had it installed, manually limiting the game to 60fps in nvidya control panel/other third party tool if you have one, running windowed mode with auto detect settings. But of course no one else is doing any of this so it's still a crapshoot.
@grok my online game I'm working on has every other match reach 8 frames of rollback and the game basically becomes intolerable to play. Any thoughts on how I can fix this?
>>576873006>>576873035I guess I just want to ask to make sure I'm not insane or tech illiterate. An AMD Ryzen 7 5800x and a 3080 should genuinely be more than enough with this game for 1080p 60FPS, right? Like I want to make sure. I'm not going for anything crazy I think here.
>>576792281No, shes the Es of this game. Brain dead top tier shoto with retardedly massive disjointed normals played by waifufags with one hand.
>>576872552for one thing, the hitbox is fucked. cap gets hit by this 1f after I take this picture, and people can be above his head instead of his fist and still get hitand it's very active so people often just land into his already extended hand in the air and get hit, and it has over a full second of hitstun to give you easy time to confirmit's kind of like the best parts of a DP assist with the best parts of something like ms marvel assist, but without the weaknesses of either, and being broly doesn't even make his assists better so you don't have to tag him in at all, it makes a great piece of meat to put on someone in the corner during oki because he's also just big and can physically bodyblock characters who try to dash over him
>>576873214you will be able to run it fine, the problem is if you match with someone who can't run it as well makes it unplayable online
>>576872818nah and I'm done playing until they fix it even if it works relatively fine if you're both on good PC, arcsoy needs to see the pc player number dwindle down for them to fix it>>576873035i did all of these but you can't really know if it's working unless you ask your opponent, maybe they just power through your lag since they know you can't do anything about it
>>576873214You're not and if anyone tells you are too low they're just trying to bait you. Unacceptable that an anime fighter is struggling to run in this day and age.
before doing anything else they should add a benchmark for online so those of us that are getting 60 fps can actually play online without having to suffer 8 frames of rollbackafter that they can work on getting the cucks in
A hover dash and Tokon's fuckhuge 2H are a match made in hell
>>576872818for me the game runs better then the beta did but still uses a concerning amount of cpu. what worked for me was to just set it to defualt settings instead of trying to lower them and preloading shaders, then it worked and I can even stream and keep 60 fps
>>576873294>>576873327>>576873340Well. Appreciated, I guess. I'm happy for the people who get to play the game but damn if I lie that this is deflating. This game was gonna be my weekend but I guess we're not doing that. Just not that hungry enough to buy it on PS5.
>>576872320fuck pc faggots. reminder to always block crossplay. macro using lagswitching cheaters, plug pullers and absolute fucking faggots can stay in containment.
>>576873478the story mode is really fun if you just wanna play that
they really gave magik everythingteleport mixhuge as fuck normals (blade has a sword too but his 2M sucks compared to magik)projectiledp (top tier vertical assist)214m is a top tier special tag move
>>576772609I'm having a blast!
>>576873542Guess I can do that, yeah. Usually not a SP guy but with all the references towards older fighting games and Marvel, I can at least enjoy that. Seeing Deadpool being filled to the brim with SNK references makes me wonder if they're hidden elsewhere.
>>576873545feel like shes going to fall off to 'just really good but not top tier'/scrub killer. super easy to use, many labbed her in beta and just went ham on release.
>>576842305>what costume can she even getPilot suit or her OG look.>she is almost always in the mech anyway, might as well make her naked, won't see anything stillWe actually see her stick out of the suit often; as far as making her naked, you'll have to wait for mods if it ever happens.
>>576873545Kinda not that scared of her teleport mix I'll be honest, man. Its literally the most telegraphed "mix" possible. There's not really any way I can see how visually you can't tell which direction she's coming from and I doubt she can set up a fireball left/right safely and timed. Unless I missed it?
>>576873756you can have 5K hours in the game and you'll still get clipped by her 5M or jm, anon
They made Peni and Kamala so hot in this game bros
>>576873928wawa was cooking people with teleport + assist to steal the corner/crossup jm last time i checked his stream
I think The Champion's theme is really good but I don't think it really suits him. It sounds like the theme of someone really serious but he's really silly and the worst thing he does to people is send them to the gym dimension.
>>576873850>you'll have to wait for mods if it ever happens.lol no one is going to play this game on PC, modding won't happen
>>576873545>>576873756I just hate it when the best characters in the game are also the easiest characters to play. Im not saying that difficult characters should automatically be god-tier but it makes me seethe to play a character like Danger and have to work 10x harder for half the payoff the average magik player gets.
i wish you could play as base champion with his omega rugal kit
is the L+Assist skill something I should be using/trying to use a lot? or am i just asking to get blown up with this counter attack/parry thing? the one you glow orange and back up a little. same with the crosscounter version when you block. something i should spam? only at certain times? when he has no assists to use?
>>576857978Same here it's pissing me off. I think it's the animation, in most game character on wake up lose their invincibility frame somewhere in the end/middle of the wake up animation (so like not fully standing up).Here it seems like the character gets to fully stand up before losing it.
>>576874228>playing dangerYou did this to yourself.
>>576874228>>576873545>>576873756I'm a Magik masher shitter, flailing her sword around while air-dashing is just too much fun
>>576874228I INSTANTLY dropped Danger after I saw that her dash was a weird gimmicky jump
>anons are too busy whining about magik while bp gets away with itHeh
>>576874671every time BP's 5M whiffs i want to kill myself
>>576874420bro it's a frame 1 reversal that counters throws? you should use it constantly until the opponent second guesses themselves and gives you free turns trying to bait it
>>576874671despite what people say you do need more of a brain cell to play BP since if you're careless about your unique meter then she suddenly becomes a much worse character when it runs out.
>>576874228Im sorry anon, danger will never be good. She a zoner and that makes nu fighting game players very upset.
Does Shuri like White boys?
ngl all I really wanted was dbfz 2...
Who is the POTENTIAL MAN of tokon?
>>576874846feel like you should just dump meter on characters like storm, bp, goblin and swap out immediatley or tag swap in to blow the meter on the combo and back out asap. bp has bit more use on point even without it, but could bring in someone else to use super meter once shes out.
>>576874657Danger used to have an instant overhead she could do after her hover dash but they removed it for some reason even though this game has mega degenerate offense and most characters have degen mixups
>>576874080Oh cool, I love being wrong about this actually, got a link to the content?
>>576875093cap
Every time I open twitter I find a new, miraculous fix for Tokon's performance issues. From running EGS in the background to limiting framerate with third party applications.I don't even play Tokon.
>>576875093Im terms of how disgusting they will be once people lab the character? Gobby.For characters who will never be good even with hours of labbing, Danger.
Any good assist to pair with tinman?
magik is more broken as a 4 assist than a point character
Does point, mid, anchor even apply to this game? Like, are there characters who are naturally better as point or better as anchors? Or is basically everyone the same relative strength regaurdless if they have now resources vs all the resources.
>>576875474https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIfOqoZFQ7Imeno has cap/bp/hulk assists. seems just any generic extender was working, but his are only basic combo routes.
>>576875450It reminds me of MHW. A game that I tried everything to fix and I just gave up on. Is it a bad game? A great game? I have no idea. I couldn't fix it no matter how hard I tried and I know it wasn't my hardware.
>>576875835you unlock assists in set order and i think the skill they use is based on the order. like doom does the orbital laser skill as anchor and gun in other spots with 5A. point character usually has no meter to work with starting out, so someone like hulk better off coming in later than on point. he can one touch with little meter to work with.
I NEED modding for this game so I can download one that adds pantyhose to all Magik colors
>>576875835I think point and shooter matter because they're who you're always going to have and you probably want to be switching between at least two characters. For the other two slots I think it mostly just matters insofar of how much you value their assists.
>>576875864thanks bro
>>576873287here's another good example of how big this fucking thing is, it really lets you rob people when combined with it having the idea angle for this kind of assist (a lot of the DP's drag them high up, the more grounded ones have bad hitstun or narrow angles)
>>576875835your 4th assist is the most important slot other than your point character, their assists in that slot are far more unique and dynamic
>>576873756Or she could be like Strive Ram and be top tier for the entirety of the game’s lifespan
>>576875835because you can hand off combos to other characters mid combo there's definitely an element of meter builder vs meter spender in this game
>>576876290strive ram was only good because that game had shit movement, limited pressure and positive bonus was retarded so standing poke: the character is going to naturally be stupid goodin this game if magik does 5M I don't care because she can't cut through my assist and I'm in the air bullying her
>>576876182the problem with having champion on your team is that you risk tagging into him at same point which is an instant lose scenario
Someone link me to someone who knows how to play Loki
>>576876971diaphones playing him
>>576873756That's not gonna happen. She has the best buttons in the entire game and has literally everything. She may not be the #1 character in the game as things get figured out, but she is top tier and will be until balance changes come around.
>>576876853you know you can swap your team between rounds right?
>>576877179Haha... I was more looking to go with a serious player.
>>576876853nigga YOU CONTROL THE BUTTONS YOU PRESS
>>576877317i'd rather not risk having a single misinput completely screw up a round especially with how clunky special tag feels in this game
>>576877473a single misinput will lose you any round in a game like this where already have tod's going around.
I think this game would just be better without active tag. Remove active tag and give power back to the individual characters. You can't really stagger or reset pressure well in this game, IAD mixups are nonexistent, jL being an overheard, so many little quirks and design decisions that are clearly there because the power we lost from those are all baked into active tag shenanigans. But that's very boring and is going to make the game stale. The degeneracy clearly exists, so the training wheels and guardrails are pointless anyway
>>576877696the game should have been a 3v3 ngl
>>576877696its a game about teams of superheroes working together to beat people up because they're stronger together then solo, active tag is the most fitting mechanic they can possibly have.
>>576876495I feel like people genuinely just forget that half the time the reason a character is top fucker in Strive is that at any time in the franchise that used to be about controlling the air space in front of you you have shit movement and the top tier has a direct link to DNF season 1.
Everyone here should be thanking Marvel Rivals for unsanitizing Marvel and letting their women be hot again. If Rivals didnt exist, danger, magik, storm etc would all be uggo
>>576866547i'm going back to strive. 2K players but never had issues. See ya in 5 years when something new will release, maybe
>>576877805Sometimes I think back to that X-men Xcom game and I really wonder what the fuck they were going for.
>>576877805But the new Wolverine game is still full of ugly hags though? And I imagine the X-Men game leaked to come after it will be ugly city too. Arcsys can get away with it because it's anime, it's pretty hard to fuck up a sentai anime style. Rivals can get away with it because it's a billion dollar game made in china where the fag overlords can't micromanage everything.
>>576867107it does. Can't believe the game where everyone has double jumps and iads has worse movement than the one who doesn't but here we are
>>576877805Thank you, Marvel Rivals. I gooned to all your PAWGs many times.
>>576856768I didn't ask for it either. I didn't WANT them to become the X-Men replacements, I was happy right where they were.
>>576876495Ram had everything. Insane pressure,insane damage,good mix and corner carry,retarded range with disjoints,meterless midscreen combos and post wallbreak she had instant still my turn pressure tool with her sword toss and more lmao. You're retarded.
>>576877918>strive never had issues>getting stuck on a cabinet unable to play then leaving the lobby to come back to 32/32 and 0/32lol
>>576877803Yea cool it fits thematically, but it makes the game worse. You're still fighting together by calling assists. I don't think active tag makes or breaks the whole thematic cohesion there for 99.9999999999999% of people.
>>576866547Every 3D fighter is complete dogshit
>>576877805imagine how ugly ms marvel could be. the comic version is just hideous in every way. just the way they show her powers used are ugly. no girl would want to be that character or have those powers. no one wants to look at her. yet asw made her actually visually appealing, something marvel hasnt been able to do in movies, tv or comics so far.
What are the rank metals in this one?
>>576834468>anon discovers that FGC are slaves to New ThingThis is the subgenre junky community that literally buys a $90 game plus $200 of DLC to play the worst entry in a franchise yet because it's the New Thing that their daddy company put out they need to compete in for some reason. They will bend over and let Sony do literally anything to their asshole in order to play New Thing, even more than COD or FIFA fags.
Is Danger actually that bad? Or is it cope/downplay/dooming?
>>576877805>If Rivals didnt exist, danger, magik, storm etc would all be uggoBut Arcsys has yet to make an actual ugly female thoughever.
>>576877696active tag is really cool and fun, actually. I like that this game added another layer to it by letting you do tag -> special instead of just special -> tag
>>576877918i meant never had issues finding matches with "only" 2K players. I don't even interact with cabinets now that it has ranked
This game sucks I’m going back to the gears of war beta
>>576877805The Promoter is super hot too. Looking forward to the porn.
>>576878415dbfz kefla
>>576878409She's probably not actually bad but the way her hoverdash works right now is annoying as fuck and doesn't really fit any of the known hoverdashes in fightans
>>576878409I don't think she's awful but her hoverdash makes her approach really predictable without the benefits a hoverdash would usually provide on top of it. I think, at minimum, she's extremely reliant on assists.
If crapcom made this game the promoter would look like the battlehub announcer faggot 100%
>>576878409Having a hoverdash without real hoverdash mix is a big downside. People are just going to panic slam 2H and kill you if you try anything.
>>576878418You can get instant matches in games with 150 people online as long as people are actually trying to play and everyone is in the same queue.You literally need like 30 people or less on steamcharts before it's a true discord fighter.
>>576877805Arigato, Maveru Ribellsu
>>576878227>yet asw made her actually visually appealing, something marvel hasnt been able to do in movies, tv or comics soMs. Marvel was cute in Future Avengers, again Japanese company would attempt to make the girls attractive, which has nothing to do with Marvel Rivals.
>>576877805Daisuke isn't in charge of this game so he doesn't get the chance to make even the literal Muslim girl wear a hijab
https://www.twitch.tv/tampaneversleepsGet in here
>>576878446holy based and same. I cant believe how fun goys of war beta is, biggest suprise in years for me. cant refund tokon since i got a key so ill just wait for arcsys to patch their shit in hopes that i will have someone to play with in EU lol.
>>576878475>dbfz keflaShe looked just the same as she was in Super, and both were cute, so I don't see the problem.
>>576863576hey i found you on twitterhttps://x.com/bedofbriars/status/2086199837167350067also i've interacted with you before in the strive community and you always come out like an annoying cunt. Also trans at 38 is a bit embarrassing
I think the combo challenges where you freestyle a combo with certain requirements is an amazing addition. I wish this had Strive's combo recipe where you can share setups and combos with each other in game. But I'm glad this game has replay takeover at least unlike Strive.
>>576863576>>576878835>iad is too strong for how weak antiairs arethis nigga's going to lose their mind when they find out about 2H
>>576878835btw i agree with you this time, garbage game :)
>>576878835>interacting with strive tranniescringe
>>576878961They took that from Persona 4 Arena
>>576878997I am actually elated the NA Strive tranny cabal aren't migrating to Tokon. The less of them the more i can enjoy competitive Tokon.
>>576878829That's just Goku in a sexy body you fag.
I've genuinely never labbed my own shit but it's kind of fun in this
I think a good compromise for the wallbreaks is that when both players unlock their full team the wallbreak should be disabled with the wall slump being permanently there for the rest of the match.
green goblin should be illegal on wall slumps stages lmao my bomb glider setups are cooking everyone
>entire TNS chat is just roasting the PC portSony really fucked this one. Wonder if the PS sales are gonna make up for it.
>>576863576YWNBAW. Trooncel. Go back to Soive.
>>576879262Every DB chick with spiky hair and muscles is Goku to you people.
>>576878227pic unrelated? she actually looks pretty cool on the rightother panels ive seen of her look pretty lame though
>>576879225I'm honestly kind of shocked that Strive's numbers didn't change at all when Tokon launched.I think at this point those same 2k people are just going to be playing that game every day for the rest of their lives. For a ton of people it was their first fighting game, that sort of bond is super strong.
>>576878961>Strive's combo recipe>game with insanely limited combo game where entire roster apart from Sol had like 5 combos including with meterlol very nice addition just like 3v3 that died in 2 weeks.
>>576878835>trans at 38You just know he's hitting the wall harder than a drunk driver if he hasn't already
>>576879441They essentially see PC as a competing platform, it's only begrudgingly that they put out a PC port at all
>>576878835What kind of weird self hatred compels a troon to say things like this? And what can I do to keep as many people like this away from my fighting game of choice? I haven't played many fighting games these last few years and they seem to be fucking everywhere now.
i swear to GOD if they put one of those women in the background on commentary at any point
I can't imagine there is, but is there a use for spamming the assists on hit there's no cooldown for some reason
>>576879441oh no, pc faggots are crying boo hoo no one cares.
>>576878835kek I have this retard blocked already
shuri is fun
>>576879778reminded me of this meme kek what an insufferable freak
>>576880268Brutally mogs every other black woman in every other marvel game. I can't think of another game with an attractive one. Also Storm in Rivals is butt ugly btw
>>576879441they want you to buy a ps5
>>576880561>make a white woman>give a brown tan>call her blackwow, so pretty, why are they so good at making black people look good?
>>576878409Her zoning and setplay gameplay works and is functional, but she would have been way better off with a regular dash instead of a hoverdash, after they removed her IAD overhead,She's probably one of the characters who will only go up like peni and ms marvel. So if you like her just keep investing in danger stocks and she'll get buffed eventually.
>>576880719It's as simple as that yet for some reason most other companies give her debra wilson face or make her a buzzcut with a fade just to spite the chuds or whatever
>>576880719>i-is that an attractive black person? it must be actually white with dark skin!This was and will always be ultra cope anon
>>576878821>>576878446>pre order only betafucking gay, can I just buy it and refund it after?
>>576880561im still a sucker for mvc2 storm but I get what you're saying
>>576879441I think sales are bad, no announcement of x many sales for the opening weekend isnt a good look.
>>576880150Tell us how much Sony pays you
I'M YOUR MASTER NOW
>>576878227You chose like the worst panel to represent your point. That design is fine.No, don't screech like a retard at me.
>>576881104Kind of fucked up to say that to Blade
>>576880820not that anon but debra wilson is in her 60s and shuri is in her 20sits like saying every black guy looks like lawrence fishburne
>>576880908Yeah thats what I did but im not refunding since im having a blast™. Open beta will be to all next week too for 4 days so just wait anon.
>>576881225he was from a different time
I think Dr. Voodoo, Scarlet Witch, and Squirrel Girl are the most likely DLC characters after Phoenix Cyclops>but they don't form a cohesive team!!!They put Ms. Marvel, Starlord, and Spiderman on the same team they don't give a fuuuuuck about that.
>>576881296fuck waiting i need to forget about tokon fuck sony im supporting xbox
This story mode is probably the best I've liked Robbie since his debut. I thought he was neat but then he became a team-up merchant and I really didn't care for him being in the Avengers.
Insomniac presents: Black Panther the Video Game
>>576879778if you play arcsys games, actually any anime fighting game you have to deal with it. It's not limited to strive
Hulk satisfied.
>>576880268>AS PREDICTED!
blond blue eyed white girls stay top tier. doesnt matter what game. now kneel.
>>576881104But how?!But how?!But how?!
>>576880268I kneel to arcsys for having her replace her brother, genius idea
>>576881416Is it? I played a ton of DBFZ and I would never run into the LGBT types when perusing twitter tech. The only troon I knew of was Yohosie. Lots of niggers of course, but I didn't start seeing troons everywhere like this until Strive. Not that I'm trying to start a game war here just my observations
>labbing the game is fun>playing others online on PC is a gambleI hate this so much man, i hope the port is fixed soon. DBFZ was the last game to have me this invested playing it where I play for hours and not feel tired.
how's carnage feel i haven't had the chance to try him
>>576881389this story mode makes every character really endearing honestly, these are actual comic writers too how is it so much worse in actual comics
I'm trying to run a team of Deadpool, Blade, Shuri, and Peni. I find all of the characters fun individually but I feel like they don't make that cohesive of a team and I'm kinda struggling to use their assists together. Is there anyone I should replace?
>>576881846His movement is kind of weird, his dash reminds me of Kanji where it has start up, but it's not as bad with Carnage.
>>576881660I think Granblue has some. I remember watching Evo and there was this short looking black guy who looked normal but the commentators kept calling him a she. DBFZ had SonicFox.for a while too.
>>576881846punk is playing him on tns right now
This game is going to get nuttyhttps://x.com/Garhentai_/status/2085880489060270261https://x.com/JaeXlll/status/2086170077854871604
>>576881846Weird? He has a really lackluster run and his chip damage isn't really a good gimmick as they've advertised. I feel like he's still good despite these and his main ranged options actually having hurtboxes because you can force the opponent to slow down in neutral well and you can also force them to rethink twice in defense with the armor and his tools generally being safe with his U gimmick
>>576881846He's fun and I have him on my team, but he's a poor man's Ghostrider
>>576880268she seems a bit boring no? Only interesting thin is the command dash
>>576877287>I was more looking to go with a serious player.they are playing other games
>>576881965>Punk>Playing the slower but longer ranged technical character over the default midrange neutral monsterI know he's very talented in that he can play a fuck ton of characters and do well but I was not expecting him to gravitate towards Carnage of all characters in this game
>>576881953they came in droves after covid. You will find lots of them in granblue, melty blood, vsav, unist, blazbloo, +r, etc.
>>576882265What the fuck is wrong with white Americans that they give up on being a man and decide to be a sissy faggot instead?
>>576882248he also played berserker in dnf so he just likes these psycho characters in anime games
don't wanna doompost but not even 3K for the first tns tournament is kinda low. Strive does 1.5k on average after 5 years
>>576881846He's a solid mid tier, maybe high tier if played well. The chip damage gimmick is completely useless. He has very little for mixups and is basically the honest mids midman of the roster. He can hit you from fullscreen and convert into giant damage, but his hurtboxes are HUGE and he will get very easily zoned out despite seemingly having good neutral. He's fun and cool but he's a strangely simple and "honest" character in a cast with so many straight up degenerate fucks.
>>576881389>>576881881>these are actual comic writers too how is it so much worse in actual comicscomic writers usually aren't allowed to just write a constrained story, either it has to tie into cross media mandates or it has to tie into some event going on or it has the writer get replaced halfway through or the writer wants to be writing someone else entirelyyou can tell the writing in this game is good because I didn't cringe at deadpool one time in the samurai outriders story. also that name literally just being something he made up because he read the main menu is pretty fucking funny and paradoxical, the story itself keeps saying they're the midnight sons like everyone assumed pre release
>>576882386But Berserker WAS also a midscreen neutral monster
>>576882390it's ps5 only
>>576881907Anyone? Please?
>>576882248He's been picking some interesting picks in the new fighters lately, like him maining Zaheer when he was playing Avatar LegendsIt's just games where he wants to play in a long term meta he'll play vanilla characters like Cammy and Sol because he can learn the game faster
>>576882379all these troons are ugly af. They are not the kind you will find in porn, thai and all that shit. They are mindbroken porn addicted incels whose mind completely collapsed. Lots of them still don't know how to groom themselves. It's grotesque
>>576881881>>576882451Gillen is one of the most consistently better comic writers for the last few decades reallyPhoenix Cyclops is from his run and doesn't appear anywhere else too
>>576882517>it's ps5 onlyand it will only ever be ps5 onlygame is unplayable on PC with the rollback issues
>they need to exit and re-enter the room so spectating doesn't get fuckedbravo arcsys
>>576875040Only if you have swag and aura.
>>576882517talking about viewers not players
>>576881950Man, I like Kanji as a character a lot but he legit felt like total ass to play. Its bad enough that hes both bad and felt bad to play, but his worst matchups were also god-tiers that everybody played.
>>576881907>>576882551Deadpool, Shuri, and Blade all kind of fulfill the same role of special into neutral skip so either of them are interchangeable.
>>576882726Apparently if random stage is selected (which is the default and is also the tourney standard) the spectator will ALSO have his own random stageWhich obviously doesn't work
Deadpool is extremely overused as fuck in the last 10 years and hes not funny.
>>576882379>with white AmericansBlacks are unironically more prone to troon out/be LGBT per capita anon. You just dont see Shaniqua(formely Jamal) invading autistic online hobbies.
why does ms marvel have spiderman's gimmick but worse. the only thing she can do different is move backwards with her stretchy hand, which you don't want to do anyways since she has no airdash to help her get back in.
Punk is legit losing because he can't do any combosAny hit he ends up with some halfway done optimal combo that isn't frontloaded or just go crazy and mash random shit and get 22k either wayWhen he could be doing something basic for 35k without even using supers
>>576883017he's losing because Magik is 10x better than the niche technical character he decided to put on point
>>576882824Danke. Of those three I've been struggling most with Deadpool so I might swap him out for Ghost Rider or someone else.
I'm dropping Danger for Starlord until they fix her hoverdash
>>576883017punk still does decently in strive with his day one sol with no combos cause you can play neutral and whiff punish in that game. Here no combos is an automatic loss
>>576883103Anon you can watch live how he's getting 3 times the hits as the other guy and not getting rewarded for it
>>576883017he's losing because he's switching to fucking spidey playing him like man
>>576883159>i'm dropping a zoning character for a rushdown character
>>576883379Exactly.
>>576883017he's losing cause mashing is the way to win in this game
>>576883131Yeah Ghostrider is a consistent range character if an opponent is trying to lame you out mid-range
Bros is Starlord any good/fun?
>>576880658
>ghost rider>black panter>wolverine>spider man>magikofficially confirmed braindead by our guy punk
>>576883190it's a combination of both. carnage has some weird confirms and routing that can be quite hard. magik is an ape that confirms anywhere for free and has the simplest bnbs known to man. anyone playing magik right now is going to shit all over people using more complex characters. just the way it is
>>576884047It was funny to see him say Black Panther's EX Spear confirm was braindead easy and then proceed to miss/drop the confirm 10 times in a row
tried the epic version to see if it performed any better than steamit doesn'tthank god epic has a refund policy now
>>576877805retard thank ArcSys not the chink shit
>>576883796He looked fun when Cloud was playing him at the beta TNS
>>576884143thats punks whole shtik when playing new fgs at this pointwin against bots get tryhards then complain how op everyone else is and how mashy and nooby the game is
>>576883796ya, but they gave him fuckboy design for some reason and i refuse to play him til a costume comes out.
>>576884047>braindead characters>literally every rushdown character
bake?
>>576883796He was by far the best character during the first beta but they nerfed him a lotHe's still really really good but nobody plays him except Cloud
>>576884351This game is pro-rushdown due to how many jumpscare fullscreen bullshit this game has.
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>>576881881There are absolutely shitty writers but I wouldn't be surprised if even the good ones are just held back by upper management most of the time.
>>576881881The characters are fine but the story still sucks as a consequence of being such rote fighting game tournament shit. The Champion not actually destroying any planets is gay.
>>576885092>>576881881I'm surprised at how much Spider-Man feels like his OG self. One thing that bothers me>is beaten to shit but refuses to give up>the rest of his team is completely un damages and are cheering him onSo canonically, spider-man takes more of a beating than fucking kamala?
>>576878471>She's literally having a shota arc
>>576863576>parrying throws is stupidBitch hates SCII repels
>>576880719Brother you're fucking blind
HOLY SHIT, BLEED
>>576881721This was me with SCVI. And man, I was so hyped when we had a pro tour announced. More people were going to jump on annnnd its dead. My game is dead.
>>576882390Does TNS usually get numbers?
>>576891462yes
