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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9522 - Vtuver edition

==NEWS==
>TailsTube #16 - Between 2 Hedgehogs
https://youtu.be/-UDOIdn2lHs [Embed] [Embed]
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI [Embed] [Embed]
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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Remember to draw before going to sleep. 1 hour, at least, every day
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>>576842758
Utterly revolting
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>general is mainly silverfags

this is a clear sign this place is on the decline
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>>576842883
gyarus are the second hottest thing after goths
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>>576843264
Dry seasons are a test of loyalty. And Silverchads are true fans
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Found a cool Silver artist that doesn't draw him with Blaze
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>>576843927
But that's a bad thing
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Republic of Hedgehogs
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>>576844385
There can only be one
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>>576844252
Silver doesn't need her
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Have a lovely saturday.
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>>576844936
Thanks, you too.
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>>576844851
are you the anon that posts fanart of the chubby conductor's wife?
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I wish we could get a real leak. Can someone stop caring about their job and livelihood for a moment please?
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Sheepwife
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Are pink hedgehogs woke?
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Hm, the order here is wrong. Amy and Cream should be after Sonic & Tails. Then it's Blaze & Marine followed by Silver & ?.
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>>576845298
maybe
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>>576845618
How?
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>>576845669
The order isn't wrong. Blaze and Marine are parallels of Sonic and Tails. Surge and Kit were supposed to be fake versions of Sonic and Tails, but the artist ended up making a dark Amy/Cream
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>>576845669
After thinking about it i think silver lacks one partly because he's supposed to be the younger one being kept check in by other more calculated characters.

Shadow doesn't really have one either unless you count Maria but she's technically older than him.
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>>576845984
Amy & Cream existed before Blaze & Marine. Silver & ? would be after Blaze as Sonic Rush came out before Sonic06. Surge & Kit should be on the bottom.

The logic is order of appearance/game releases.
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>>576846317
>The logic is order of appearance/game releases.
Did you make the picture? If not, you're nitpicking for no reason
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What the fuck is that OP?

Shitvertards, what the fuck? Is this your hero? Why are you all like this?
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>>576846517
Fuck you. I can nitpick whatever the fuck I want.
>>576846109
Yeah, they should add Shadow standing next to a tombstone. It'd be hilarious.
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>>576846734
>I can nitpick whatever the fuck I want.
And I can fuck your mom whenever I want.
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Douge
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>>576845562
There's going to be a Gamescom in Cologne, Germany from August 26-30 this year. Sega will showcase demos for upcoming games there. Sega's lineup is Alien: Isolation 2, Crazy Taxi: World Tour, STRANGER THAN HEAVEN, Persona 4 Revival, Total War: WARHAMMER 40,000. No Sonic game is currently in the lineup.
Sega is also going to be at the 2026 Tokyo Game Show from September 17-21.
These 2 events are Sega and Sonic Team's last chance to give news on the next mainline Sonic game. They would look so stupid if they decided to not release any news at those events
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>>576845906
there's a specific pic of her that i am looking for, i tried e621 but is not there, i believe part of her belly is showing
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Chart forgot about Mighty and Ray...Just like everyone else.
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Shadally
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surmy
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>>576844906
However, I disagree
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>>576846950
>These 2 events are Sega and Sonic Team's last chance to give news on the next mainline Sonic game.
Your forgot about the anniversary party in October and also The Game Awards which will have more eyes on it than those events you mentioned combined. There's also more incentive there because that's where they'll show the Sonic 4 trailer. Gamescom and TGS is only ever relevant for smaller titles or for news after Sega already revealed the new big game elsewhere.
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>>576847112
This. This is the ship.
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>>576847010
less forgot about and more... they're just boring right? boring designs, no personality, nothing going on for them.
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>wait, are you gay?
>what do you mean with gay people invented me?
>*kills himself*
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>>576847214
In that case, then October seems to be the most likely month Sonic Team will give news on the next mainline game. The Game Awards 2026 will happen in December but December feels too late
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>>576842405
>>576843442
>>576843301
>>576847134
>>576844252
IC and Nakamura's vision.

>>576844906
>>576843927
OOC and might as well be OC.
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>>576847360
Mighty and Ray are a failed attempt at making another Sonic and Tails since they're cucked to the classic era with no real lore. Only afloat because aaron webber shilled them and nothing more
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Is Mighty actually stronger than Knuckles or is that a Flynnism
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>>576847531
>Nakamura's vision
I don't think so.
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>>576847531
Are we sure Silver and Blaze connection was Nakamura, someone suggested it might be Iizuka cuz Rivals is technically what cemented it in the same year with 06 by making Nega from future
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>>576847543
Don't Mighty and Ray both predate Tails?
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>>576847545
Mighty? The strongest. Simple as.
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I wish for flynn to die.

Not for anything, so we can finally shut down the fanboyism and drama and get rid of old archiefags, so another nigger writer replaces him.
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>>576848016
They did but they weren't made to be a Sonic and Tails, this was an invention during webber's era
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Modernbab seething hours?
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>>576847795
I will always be grateful that Shun Nakamura created not only Silver but also Mephiles and Infinite, who are both dark and serious villains
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>>576848280
Still counts
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>>576848457
... said no one ever!
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>>576848078
>implying Ian dying wouldn't just increase the fandom around him
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Nakamura never acknowledges Blaze or Silver's connection to Blaze. You can look at his account, he'll talk about sss trio or Mephiles and Infinite, but never Silver and Blaze. Not even Team Dimensions in Crossworlds.
Nakamura did Forces too right? He had Silver there, but no Blaze. I'm beginning to think he doesn't believe in Silver and Blaze either.
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I wish for flynn to live.

Not for anything, so that he can live with a good and successful life, so he's a human being with feelings and heart like us.
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>>576848948
He had a keychain or something pic with both of them together. though the connection might be someone else.
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>>576847971
>backspines
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>>576848948
Does he ever acknowledge Blaze and Cream?
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>>576848948
>Blaze's creator doesn't to care about the other
>Neither does Silver's for Blaze
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>>576848589
Silver is more popular than ever, Infinite made a return in the Chaotic Case Files audio drama, and now Mephiles could return too. Get with the times
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>>576849284
are cute <3
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>>576847795
Nakamura really just said "e-etooo suppotah shibaru mephilisus infinitesus my shittu ocus... pleasu...". Pathetic and shalln't.
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>>576849135
Looks like merch given to him at the asia fan meets.
>>576849370
The only image I see of him acknowledging Blaze is at that cafe collab event a while back, but the one opportunity he has to put their tiny acrylics together, he posted Silver by himself and then Blaze with Shadow in a separate post.
What did he mean by this?
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>>576847004
I have a lot of pics of her, you’ll need to be more specific
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>>576849506
>Silver is more popular than ever
Not enough to get an year all by himself it seems!

>Infinite made a return in the [literal soa fanfiction] audio drama
Wow.......... that's nice, Shitverbro.

>and now Mephiles could return too
Because he's associated with Shadow, not Shitver.
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>>576849907
Sonic 4 movie synergy can cause silver to get a game.
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>>576849890
I want to cuddle and kiss and fuck her so badly
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>>576849907
We'll eventually see a year of Silver. Infinite has a good chance at making a return in content made by Sonic Team too. Mephiles is associated with both Shadow and Silver.
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>>576849907
>HAHA you didn't win 1000 pounds of gold! you're very poor
At least he's much more relevant than shitaze.
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Fiona sexually harassing Silver pls
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>>576847410
>Himself
Anon...
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>>576847795
Nakamura is a really funny man. You never see Maekawa, Naka or Akinori on Twitter begging you to support their respective characters, yet Nakamura is there shameless plugging his shitty ass weed walking being, Shadow's clone and potential the jackal.

Really gives the impression SEGA internally would vault Silver in any second, they just can't while he's employed.
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>>576849685
Naka doesn't give a single fuck about shitaze, the team forced him to include Shitaze somewhere in 06 and he killed her off, she's a leech to his kid and should be stuck back to Sonic.
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>>576850384
Silver is popular in the fanbase in japan from the beginning and nowadays in the west though.
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>>576850507
If that's so, he wouldn't have to make a clown himself on Twitter for starters, and yet...
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>>576850384
Because they're not very popular characters you fucking pipe skull, even shitaze creator is talking about the glory days of making his waifu and how nobody gave a fuck about her and only wanted to fuck her
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>>576849685
So he never acknowledges Cream despite being responsible for her nor her relationship with Blaze. Okay then. I’d ask about Marine but I think I know the answer.
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>>576850623
>esl
Everybody likes him he's a cool guy, you're just a fag who gets his butt wet over Silver and is pretty insecure about it
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>>576850623
I mean we have polls, fan content, anectodals and now even SOA using him in content and merch more. i don't think all of this happened because Nakamura made tweets. Silverrapefag is annoying but you guys also cope about the reality
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i hate infinite. i hate infinite so much.
sonic team has made some controversial decisions over the years, such as
sonic 06
turning shadow from tragic anti hero to edgy sonic
shrinking rouge's tits
shrinking the playable cast
shadow having guns for some reason
shadow having pump action mp5s for some reason
the flattening of rouge's chest
hallway levels
3d in general
sonic forces push forward to win
oc donut steels canonized in sonic forces
diminished level length in sonic forces
diminishing rouge's assets
sonic 06
the deadly six
sonic boom (games (the tv show is great))
tails turning into a baby to be coddled
amy
classic sonic outside generations
endless nostalgia bating quashing any new ideas
quashing rouge's bosom
"""two worlds"""
the werehog
where are rouge's hogs
colors ultimate
daddy eggman
cream disappearing
and...
i mean, i could go on for an hour but the joke exhausted itself three lines in
but infinite
infinite is so fucking disappointing
almost as disappointing as the size of rouge's cleavage
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>>576849890
i just remember the belly being kinda realistic, i think she has like an apron where the belly kinda goes to the sides if that makes sense. i also know that one pic of her was only posted on twitter and i think the artist drew like a few other sonic characters chubby as well, i wish i could remember the artist name or the twitter but yeah, she is just kinda standing
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Brb curb stomping Blazefags skulls with this
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>>576850669
Nakamura didn't make those two.
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>>576850623
Anon, even if I agree it’s really funny to see him shill his ocs (especially since Metal and Amy got a movie before Silver kek), it’s not as though Silver is a complete waste of space. At least, that’s why the merch team bothers to include him sometimes. Nakamura is likely banking on that relevance since Sega didn’t decide to vault him despite the abysmal performance of his debut game.
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>>576850384
>SEGA internally would vault Silver in any second
>No they wouldn't do that with Blaze because...
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>>576851078
I mixed up Nakamura and Nishiyama, my bad anon.
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>>576851172
It'd look sexist to include silver before Amy especially after shadow already kinda delayed it.

that being said i agree SOA realized the increasing popularity probably later than the amy movie stuff
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Blaze is very close to what Sally is supposed to be, it's safe to say from how much useless and controversial she is, ST is debating on vaulting her later on
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Someone is responsible for the silver and blaze team up and I don't think it was either of their creators
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>>576850051
Same man

>>576850887
Closest I got to that is this
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>>576851762
Someone suggested it might be Iizuka who came up with it. i mean technically the idea for silver to be a hedgehog at all, so silver as we know isn't fully nakamura's idea.
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>>576851824
nevermind i found it, i did confuse it with this pic though. the artist i was talking about was nowax
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>>576851824
Also got this one
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>>576851762
Same happen with Cream:
>Introduced in handheld
>Thrown in mainline
>No idea what to do next
>Focus on the thing that has many views
It's just marketing, you love it or hate it, it's expanding Sonics name and that's what matters
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>>576851381
Will the lore team get put on a leash for 2027?
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>>576851824
>>576852027
>>576852042
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
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>>576850967
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>>576852237
>>576852207
Very organic posts.
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>>576850967
You're the only one actually talking about Blaze
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>>576852027
Oh that one. Yeah I have it too

>>576852227
BACK OFF SHE’S MINE
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>>576853256
jesus christ
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>>576847531
Nakamura likes gothic Blaze?
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>>576853424
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Three boys, they are brothers
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>>576853256
>>576853917
Absolute Surge
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>>576852985
Silverschizo is a Blazefag, is this new to you?
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Dead general.
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>>576854376
I am aware a lot of them are, but not every single Silver hater is one and turning it around to schizo'ing about blaze instead of actually arguing about their points doesn't make it much more convincing.
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>>576854175
Sonic was about to say that he likes Amy back but he got interrupted
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>>576854392
Not many generals can survive more than a year of no games. Especially a spin off like Crosswords
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You are right and I am wrong.
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>>576854631
You don't get it, he's not a Silver hater, else he would try to ignore him much more, he's obsessively schizoing about him as if he's constantly hurting him, or hurting someone who he's in love with...
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>>576854392
Thanks to our useless drawfags who got nothing to do with this general.
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>>576854631
> instead of actually arguing about their points
>The fictional character that is pushed in merch and animation is going to be deleted and he's actually doing a psyop of destroying the company
What arguing could be done here?
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>>576845669
Silver doesn't have a Tails because him being the "Sonic" of the future makes him the Tails automatically.
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Another victory for hyperborean space Sonic fans.
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>>576847545
Knuckles is as strong as Sonic is fast. Therefore he is strongest.
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>>576855676
u is welcome :D
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Sonicbros...
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>>576851172
>especially since Metal and Amy got a movie before Silver kek
EARNED and EXPECTED
Silverfags are delulu
CS supremacy!
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The kissing scene in Satam is really weird in context. That isn't a couple making out, it's two teens fucking around with promiscuity. That isn't normal for kids shows at all.
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>>576857174
Hang yourself fag
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>>576855831
Pointing out stuff like merch sales, fanwork popularity changing times, him being a male hedgehog who looks like sonic and shadow, increased presence in content. teases etc.

a lot of people think he is a character with no real fanbase because 00s left such an impact in people's heads that people still operate by that time's norms.
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>>576857014
What if I like both Amy and Silver? I get the best of both worlds
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>>576855531
You're almost right. Every schizo is born from hatred but not every schizo is a shipper
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>>576857515
Silver amy's heart, in a sense.
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>>576851762
Blaze is in the future with Silver because they wanted her in the game but there was nowhere else to put her. Its that simple.
Nakamura didnt specifically want Blaze with Silver. Maekawa didn't specifically want Blaze with Silver.
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>>576857612
* Has Amy's heart
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Why is everyone mad about Blaze and Silver all the time
They're best friends, that's normal
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>>576857812
Blazefags hated it because they associated Blaze's irrevelance or limited portrayal in 06 with silver. a lot were sonazefags too so there was ship drama. Silverrapefag (most other silverfags don't care about blaze) has a trauma response of hating her, it was a cycle roughly like that.
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>>576856776
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>>576857812
We have dramafags and at least one schizo for each that makes it easy to make each other fight. Sthg doesn't feel alive to the dramafags unless it's going fast and shit posting
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>>576857812
friendship is illegal
romance or nothing
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>>576858140
Wish this meant something more substancial for the game but this is likely being done for the login decal reward happening on the next week
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>>576857172
>Amy's running skill. She's got excellent running skills, since she's used to chasing Sonic.
Cute and canon.
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blaze would be better if
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>>576858016
>[twitterfag] has a trauma response of hating her, it was a cycle roughly like that
every time
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Sonic should have a recurring character with this feel
https://youtu.be/8PpiHOzhNJA
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>>576858585
Blaze having an alternate form like this would be cool, or maybe this could be Blaze's fully unlocked true Super/Burning form
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>>576858646
It's funny because he began with drawing shitty silvaze porn.

to be fair, blazefags brought it upon themselves but i don't see the point when no one is talking abourt her
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>>576858748
Elder Koco
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>>576857014
>CS
*CD
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>>576858861
This looks like mephiles a bit so i'd assume this is what happens with some of her Iblis stuff
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>>576857515
Good for you! But I dont get the Silverfags that went "WhAt AbOuT sIlVeR!?!?" And assumed Silver HAD to be next after Shadow.
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Sand Hill
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I have Surge fatigue
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>>576857172
>backspines
Why do peoplr keep doing this
>to make her look like a he-
Really answers only
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>>576859506
Everyone loves Surge.
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>>576859560
I mean yes it's the real answer, hedgehogs have spikes while she has a bob cut. i agree it's not aestheticall coherent with the bob cut for her to h ave spikes but thats the real answer.
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>>576859560
>Really answers only
Open back dress and her classic design used to have them. It's like Rouge with her wings in the suit before the retarded censorship. It looks like something should be there
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>>576859560
because it is CUTE
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>>576859506
Needs more Kitsunami
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>>576859234
Characterfags really came out to show how mad they were about how their character was not getting the same treatment as Shadow, and silverfags broke themselves even more because they've been carrying a self-imposed boulder before The Year of Shadow
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>>576859662
>I mean yes it's the real answer
No it isn't.
>hedgehogs have spikes while she has a bob cut
What does this have to do with backspikes?
>that's the real answe-
No it isn't.
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>>576859748
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Whisper, you've been gone for like 10-plus(?) issues. Why is crying the first thing you do back.

Signed: reader anon
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>>576859949
Niggas talk about Blazefags being entitled when Silverfags carry his presence upon being mandatory as another hedgehog
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>>576860157
Well, I mean, the first thing she did was lose her wisps.
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>>576859718
>It looks like something should be there
...have you never seen an open back dress before?

>>576859728
It looks weirdly and doesnt fit the design.


The real answer is because it makes Amy look edgier. That's it. It makes her look more action-figure-y as well as
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>>576860162
Blazefags do it way more. Silverfags just actually get away with it more.
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>>576860162
Blazefags got a special name before silverfags cuz they always scapegoated stuff with Silverschizo'ing or shipping drama. Silverfags at the very least just voiced wanting to see him more, at least before the blazefag trauma response.

>>576860114

back spikes are still spikes and make her more hedgehog adjacent, it's probably some kind of compromise between her modern and classic design philosophy. Idk what else somene could say
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>>576860247
>...have you never seen an open back dress before?
Read what I said prior to that. It's dependent on the logic Rouge used to operate on before censorship. That there's an open space to compensate for something. And again, Amy's classic design had back spikes
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>>576856776
>>576858140
>Everytime Shadow appears it becomes an humiliation ritual for Sonic since the year of Shadow started till today
Shadowfags will deny this and tell you the mandates are a good thing for the franchise, but it's actually just a good thing for Shadow
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>>576860154
Cute
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>>576860550
I get the sense you guys find shadow cooler than sonic but tsunderefag about it, if Shadow merely appearing is ''humiliation ritual'' for sonic.
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>>576860550
I dont think we should take seriously something clearly made for fun and to promote a ingame reward
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>>576860545
>Read what I said prior to that.
I did. It's not relevant.
>Amy's classic design had back spikes
Yes, when she was a pink Sonic with his hairstyle.
It doesnt make sense with her modern design.
>>576860468
>back spikes are still spikes and make her more hedgehog adjacent
She's already a hedgehog. Spines are just hair. She just grooms herself to look aesthetic. Amy is supposed to look cute and fashionable. Sonic is supposed to look sharp and edgy.

The back window is so you can see her back for fashion reasons. Its not a practicality thing. Never was.

Youre all working your way backwards to justify it while pretending not to.
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>>576860550
>the rival character rivalfagging
No seriously, what are you bitching about?
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>>576861067
How about this? I want it because I like how it looks. So fuck you
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>>576861067
Real hedgehogs are spiky creatures and as much as sonic doesn't resemble a real hedgehog, his ''hair'' at least looks like spines when you point it out. Amy's just looks like hair rather than hedgehog spines.
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>>576861212
They find shadow to be cool but are tsunderefagging about it, thats it really
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>>576830837
Bit of a shame, but fair I guess.
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>>576857515
That's a nice picture of Sonic
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>>576860871
>>576860971
>>576861212
Sonic lost to Shadow in the Crosswords animation. Now Shadow casually takes over the Twitter account and Sonic says ok like a cuck. Fuck off
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>>576860468
>Silverfags at the very least just voiced wanting to see him more
And what does that mean exactly, starting from 2017? Did they want him in Sonic Frontiers? Did they want him in Sonic Prime? Dream Team? TMoStH? For a character that supposedly gets so little, he sure as hell shows up a lot. And it reads like it's not enough unless they specifically get what Shadow or the core 4 gets
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>>576861279
You could say the same of Knuckles, or Silver, or Charmy having a nose
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Backspines on Amy is just Lego theory but for boys.
Same with making her a psychopath and making Cream a delinquent of murderer.
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>>576862167
"Lego theory"?
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>>576862216
Don't listen to him. Is dated chud propaganda
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>>576861232
>I like how it looks.
No you don't.
>>576861279
>Real hedgehogs are
None of these characters are real animals and even fewer look like the real animal.
Real hedgehogs arent pink or blue. Real echidnas dont wear spiked gloves or have their spines look like dreads.

Spines are hairs. Characters can get haircuts.
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>>576861807
Sonic is my fave character. You're giving off massive small penis energy dude.
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>>576861870
They want him to be playable in an actual game. Kartracing fodder doesn't mean much which is the only place he even appears, he's getting more actual merch produced but even then that took a lot of time too and was very recent.

>>576861978
Silver has spikes that are similar to sonic's
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>>576862326
The observations dont suddenly become untrue just because the conclusions some people derive from it are.

Stop being pol/brained.
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Why do men post Sonic fanart made by women all the time but not vice versa?
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shadow is great as long as she's got a cute expression
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>>576862632
>Silver has spikes that are similar to sonic's
Because looking like Sonic is a thing in the lore for him. Same with Shadow.
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>>576862529
I don't care about who your favorite character is or your obsession with penis size
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>>576862659
it's a bit of an useless research mostly used for incelposting out of context. (useless because the research doesn't give boys barbies or cute plushies)

i ve seen it used for uwuver but male writers started writing uwuver before evan did, TSR was by pontaff and majorly differed from his japanese TSR portrayal
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>>576862806
I promise im.not the one who is obsessed.
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>>576862710
Because women are egocentrical and self-centered and would never appreciate another woman's art.
For the offals, another woman is a threat.
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>>576863016
No you retard I mean women don't post fanart by men
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>>576862869
>mostly used for incelposting
You're just self reporting that you judge something based on not liking some group of people you associate with it that offend your politics rather than engaging with it for what it is.
How are you any better?
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>>576863084
men don't draw fanart
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i've engaged it too, i pointed out that lego study doesn't give the boys girly toys to see what happens which gives an incomplete view and people disingeniously associate uwuver with only evan to prove ''lego theory'' but ignore how pontaff started uwuver in official media.
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Someone just..... posted a ship that isn't...... canon.....
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>>576863132
>>576863313
meant for
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>>576863313
The Lego study is nonsense. Boys do the same thing. In fact it's easier to get a girl to roleplay as Goku than to get a boy to roleplay as Cinderella
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>>576863313
People who blame Evan for Uwuver forget that Evan grew up reading Archie where Ian did it first
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>>576863682
i mean they do roleplay as cinderella but they usually end up as sissies or trans.
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Why are we talking about disgusting foids? This is sthg. Foids don't matter to the franchise and shouldn't matter to the fanbase. This place especially should ignore them wholesale. Stop caring about what foids do and think.
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A lot of people thought Silver was a homo back in 2006
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>>576862632
>They want him to be playable in an actual game
The last time some of the core 4 were allowed to be playable in a normal mainline Modern Sonic title prior to Frontiers was 2006. Silver is not the only character that hasn't been playable in a very long time and I'm tired of silverfags playing victim
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>>576863016
You struck a nerve.
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>>576863313
>i pointed out that lego study doesn't give the boys girly toys to see what happens which gives an incomplete view
Yes.
That doesn't make the information provided wrong. It is still useful for observing the phenomenon of how girls and women engage in otherwise male dominated or oriented spaces.

Guys do the reverse with girly things, which is why people try to turn Amy ibto a sporty and spikier more Sonic-like character to make her edgier and tougher or make her out to be a violent psychopath and make her brutally kill things.
This is what young boys do with barbies and their sister's cute stuffed animals.

When they arent doing that, they are torturing them. Again, what many guys do to Amy, Cream and even Tails for being cute and soft.

You didnt disprove Lego theory. You just demonstrated it goes both ways and was thus incomplete.
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>>576863858
I mean fuck fartchie and comics, male writers did it the first in the GAMES, i don't get how people ignore tsr in this discussion

Archiever is praised by a lot of Silverfags because uwuver wasn't bad as IDW and he got to do a lot of aurafarming ''cool'' stuff while sega didn't use him outside of 06 for years. i agree his personality is off but i understand why silverfags might cope with archie.
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>>576863975
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>>576864083

Maybe, but i still find it too gendered when again, stuff like uwuver or vulnerablenic was done first by male writers and people mostly bring up evan or literal fanart made by women as an excuse to incelpost.
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>>576864290(me)

heck,even uwu archiedow is something a male writer is responsible for.
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This is an incel community. If you don't want incel rhetoric then leave you disgusting foid worshipper. (They will never fuck you btw.)
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When I was a little girl I had a toy T Rex and I just made it kill shit.
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every character topic is actually about shadow and why that character isn't shadow
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>>576864538
incel rheoteric ignores that a lot of the stuff you guys complained about was started by male writers first thus misses the big picture.
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You guys had toys when you were kids? My parents just locked me out of the house until 8PM when I turned 6.
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I might be mentally ill to enjoy coming here
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>>576864697
Idgaf
I dont go into foid communities and bitch about how what they talk about is centered around women. Why are you doing the vice-versa?
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>>576864115
>i don't get how people ignore tsr in this discussion
TSR had a shitpost dub. The Japanese version has the same characterization as 06.
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I had space pinball :D
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>>576864909
I'm not complaining about discussions being male centered, i am complaining that the first perpetrators of mischaracterization being male writers is ignored in favor of gender autism. them being western factors more than their gender if anything.

>>576864963
and said shitpost dub scripts were written by men.
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Shadow should kill people
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Aw golly gee. I really want to talk about normie Sonic topic with other normies like myself, let's see where I can go:
>Discord
Nah
>Reddit
Nah
>Xwitter
Nah
>Sonic stadium
Nah
>Sonic retro
Nah
>DeviantArt
Nah
>4chan/v/
Nah
>Some barely engaged and shitty thread in /vg/
Perfect.
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I swear to God this is the only place I've ever seen where the community will outright attack you for trying to help them.
You faggots are miserable cretins and I'm happy you're all stuck here. I'm just trying fucking correct you and this is how you act?
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>>576865356
Twitter is easily the worst option
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>>576865341
And mobians
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>>576865575
Idgaf about being correct. I want to be a chud and say nigger and faggot while talking about Sonic. Everything, literally everything else, is secondary at best.
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>>576864037
>Can we get playable Silver?
>Stop being selfish what about...
Shut the fuck up nigger, this is not a competition of who get who first, they all can get PR before him, we just want Silver to be handled normally once.
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I give up.
This place is beyond fucked and some of you are genuinely mentally handicapped it appears. Have fun with your dead community with literally nothing going on.
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>>576861870
>Did they want him in Sonic Frontiers? Did they want him in Sonic Prime? Dream Team? TMoStH? For a character that supposedly gets so little, he sure as hell shows up a lot. And it reads like it's not enough unless they specifically get what Shadow or the core 4 gets
Are you stupid? you just proved they get less and their want is still less than core 4 and Shadow
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>>576864037
>The last time some of the core 4 were allowed to be playable in a normal mainline Modern Sonic title
Trying really hard to pretend the classic games don't count for some reason uh? What a faggot you are
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Rotor the Walrus?
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>>576866325
Cool story bro. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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>molesting Tangle in the Restoration HQ storage closet after hours
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>>576865575
Every part of the Sonic fandom is like that. Solipsism is very common these days.
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This place must be really confusing to newfags. You'd think this place would talk about anything and everything Sonic but the reality is that unless you are trying to discuss a handful of preselected topics, you will most likely just be ignored altogether.
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>>576863682
When girls talk about Goku they mostly talk about him as this guy which friends and family that gets together to hang out at Bulma's parties to play bingo. His fighting is more talking about hoe he protects his family.

Boys by contrast will like characters like Mulan who go on anime training arcs and fight.

The problem with something like Cinderella is that most disney princesses dont have cool abilities and superpowers.

When girls talk about playing princess eith eachother they just talk about which princess who gets to be and it inevitably just comes down to looks.

Boys playing superhero or DBZ jist argue about which powers they get and or which character they think is cooler or stronger.

So there is something to it regardless.
Whenever I talk with girls about DB, they are mostly talking about which characters we're more exemplary as men, judging them based on how desirable they are as partners or fathers.

Cinderella or Snow White doesnt have this for boys. Eric doesn't have cool powers or do anything cool. He is just a boytoy for girls.
And that's fine.
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All of this seething sounds like Sonamybesties
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>>576867232
As someone who actually has friends and a life, you're wrong. This place exclusively is the only place where I have to fight with you faggots just do I can improve your arguments. Sure most of the Sonic fandom is weird in general but this place clearly has more than a few people who have literally zero interest in actually having a proper discussion. They just want to post a bunch of bullshit and leave without any discussion at all. The hostility on here is completely unique and I have no idea what the cause of it is.
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Wasteland Surge has a midriff
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>>576866540
>Trying really hard to pretend the classic games don't count for some reason uh? What a faggot you are
Not him, but that still holds for Amy. Mania was the only exception anyway, unless you want to be brave and count Dark Brotherhood.
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>>576867487
Cinderella has exactly one super power and boys would go ape shit if they had it
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>>576867638
>Not him, but
Hu-huh.
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>>576851381
They didn’t give a shit about that when they decided to use Shadow before Amy (and Metal).

>>576857515
Then rejoice, Silver maybe has a chance after the 4th movie
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>>576866540
Superstars came out after Fontiers.
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>>576867815
Paranoid motherfucker, listen when I talk to you.
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I would just like to update everyone really fast on something that is kind of relevant.
SEGA has still not hosted a playtest of the new Sonic game. Which means they have no intention or releasing it this year or probably the next. If they do release the next game next year then it's definitely going to be a rushed and crunch job. At this point, I'm starting to worry that ST has been sitting on their ass this entire time.
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>>576867669
Fairygodmother has it. Not her. Cindy's power is basically Amyfagging and getting everyone to be more cheerful with her positive energy.
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>>576868003
Sounds like schizophrenia.
They just dont trust gaijins not to leak things.
Youre addicted to leak culture.
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>>576867546
>someone who actually has friends and a life, you're wrong.
That’s not “fandom” that’s normies. Probably ones willing to admit they can be wrong too.
>This place exclusively is the only place where I have to fight with you faggots just do I can improve your arguments.
Try to talk about how the comic characterization isn’t the same as the games on Twitter, Tumblr or Reddit.
>The hostility on here is completely unique and I have no idea what the cause of it is.
This place is full of “people” with severe autism. Much worse than average. Also bitter schizophrenics that can’t let go of emotional grudges from decades ago.
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>but what about silver :(
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>>576868029
she can talk to animals
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>>576868181
That's just every disney princess. People make fun of Aquaman for it because its seen as a lame as fuck power. You're out of touch.
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>>576868003
>At this point, I'm starting to worry that ST has been sitting on their ass this entire time.
I'd say this is less likely than them just scrapping tons of ideas over and over. But either they have something to show us at Gamescom/TGS or we're in for a year without anything to look forward to except Pico Park (which I am looking forward to, but it's not a replacement for an actual game).
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>murdering Tangle in the woods
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>>576867576
midriff is the best riff
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>>576868162
Heh, this is a cute little dynami--
> illustrated by the animal torturer
Fuck
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Thoughts on this theory?
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I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG
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>>576868003
I'm convinced Sonic Team has no idea where to take the franchise and is just waiting to get more details from the Sonic 4 movie so they can borrow ideas from it. I'll wager money that they don't even have a dev test room ready for debugging.
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>>576868672
What if I was wrong but you prove me right?
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Happy 8/8
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Sonic whatever for this feel?
https://youtu.be/iDKN4UgpGZM
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>>576868630
Butterrrmoth
NOT Bobbutterbutt
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>>576868771
nta but I don't see how the movies would impede them. frontiers did fuck all besides do an animation on knuckles and shadow gens was just muhria and nostalgia bait
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>>576868771
Did you forgot the recent Q&A from Kishimoto?
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>>576868657
Likely, but no telling what we're in for in any case. They had two games for us that time.
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>>576868386
Sonic Frontiers leaks happened 9 to 10 months before they had a reveal trailer. A similar timeline happened with Forces.

We're not getting jack shit until at least a few months after credible leaks happen.
>inb4 SEGA clamped down on leakers
Doesn't matter, one of the sources I have is literal irl friends with a SEGA employee and he has said absolutely nothing related to Sonic has come across his desk since Crossworlds. We're not getting anything this year. I garuntee it at this point.
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/sthg/ is going to be dead by the end of the year
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>>576868386
>I'd say this is less likely than them just scrapping tons of ideas over and over.
This is really bad. This what happened to Frontiers in the middle development. Look how the game turned out to be

>>576868771
>they're waiting to get more details from the Sonic 4 movie so they can borrow ideas from it
That's so pathetic. The movies are truly the only thing keeping the franchise alive right now. Sonic Team is so uncreative and incompetent now
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There's no way SEGA was actually retarded enough to think Crossworlds was going to be good enough to be a holdover for two straight years of no content.....right?
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>>576869330
>Look how the game turned out to be
Yeah, it was fine. I know people like to doompost about Frontiers now, but it was mostly functional and people were interested in the idea. Please promptly kill yourself.
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>>576869408
It's a gaas / live service game with crossovers of popular kid ips. They absolutely thought it was going to hold
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>>576869408
>SEGA
>Being retarded
The real and true OTP.
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>>576869408
I mean to be fair, they were trying to cash in on the popular IPs. They definitely needed to do more market research though.
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>>576868919
So is Sonic gonna come out when she pees...
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>>576869118
Who? Oh you mean Morio "boosting linear hallways simulator or gacha-pseudo open world slop" Kishimoto? You mean the guy who gave us nothing but absolute hot poop?

Oh, yeah, him. That's what we need for Sonic, yes!
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What do kids like these days and how can the franchise take advantage of that?
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>>576869316
that's only 4 months away, if we're being more generous it might be the middle of next year
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>>576868178
But it's okay when shadowfags do it
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>>576870147
Well for starters I wouldn't be trying to revive new generational interest in Avatar especially after the last show failed so tremendously bad. SpongeBob and TMNT were good choices as well as Joker and Miku.

I have no idea why the fuck Yakuza or Minecraft is in Crossworlds since both of those IPs have proven to not sell products via association multiple times. As far as the IDW characters go, they clearly weren't good enough to keep interest going.
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>>576870179
Nta but if we don't get something by the end of October at the latest, I dont think this place is going to make it to next year either.
Everyone on here is just fucking bored and getting tired of waiting for something, literally anything, to happen.
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>>576869428
Frontiers was lacking urban terrain, which would've the game look more beautiful and lively. Adding in NPCs to interact with and take side missions from like how Shadow Generations did it would've been a good feature as well
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>>576869428
The absolute state of Modernbabs.
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>>576870680
How did you guys survive 2018-2021?
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>>576870886
We didn't. That was the time period where every secondary place for sthg either went completely rogue like the booru or outright and openly broke off from us like the Discord did. Why do you think almost nobody from that time has ever came back here?
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>>576870818
>massive promotional campaign with original animations and tons of trailers
>genuine hype over open zone concept
>positive reception at release from critics and players
>this is bad somehow and will be bad if it happens again
Genuinely just kill yourself.
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>>576870886
Nta but as an oldfag the community that was around before 2020 left this place well before Frontiers came out. That's kind of why I see sthg nowadays as a completely different entity to what it was before.
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>>576871201
>2020
You mean 2018-2019? Fake oldfag.
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>He thinks Frontiers was a good game
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>>576871201
If every other oldfag left than why did you stay?
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Everyone who thinks /sthg/ is dying or will die outs themselves as a newfag who wasn't here during 2017 - 2020.
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>>576870147
Kids play:
Minecraft
Roblox
Fortnite

And NOTHING ELSE. If you play anything else, it's cause YOU ARE CURSED/OLD! Now you know why Sega supports Sonic Speed Simulator.
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>>576871516
I didnt. I left back around 2019 since by that point i already had a friend group in the Discord. I came back around 2024 when Sonic 3 released because I wanted to see how this place reacted. Been lurking on and off ever since.
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Being both a fnaf and sonic fan really makes sonic’s 35th anniversary feel even weaker because what do you they just announced the next mainline fnaf title, fnaf world 2, AND a real life freddy’s location for Fnaf’s 12th anniversary today but all we’ve heard this year in regards to sonic’s anniversary this year is a frontiers port, classic sonic in crossworlds, and sonic pico park
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>>576871641
makes sense I guess, is the splintered off discord any more active?
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>>576871558
You don't have the people and resources around you to make another Crashdow Quark. The best thing we could hope for at this point outside of a game announcement is if Scribbles finishes his fangame.
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>>576871837
What are you even talking about, I hated Crashdow. Genuinely impossible to discuss Shadow during that period.
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>>576871420
I'll post it as many times as it takes. Good or not by personal standards, it was well received and kept Sonic off the chopping block. Remember that if Frontiers wasn't a resounding success, Sonic was going to die. Frontiers sold better than every other 3D Sonic game. If you don't like it, fine, but you can't fight the sales and scores. It was successful.
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>>576871830
Lmao, that place imploded and died years ago. Last I checked before leaving was sometime in 2023 and it was mostly just a handful of people complaining about politics in the vent channel. I'd be surprised if they haven't just deleted the server at this point.
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>>576872003
successful =/= good
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>>576872005
Literally banning people from associating it with /sthg/ was retarded
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>>576872114
That's fine, faggot, I never said it was "good." Point to where I did.
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>>576871782
>fnaf
Are you 12?
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>>576871782
>"At least you get an anniversary celebration..."

I will never stop laughing/crying at the state of the Crash Bandicoot IP. How do you mishandle a former console mascot that badly? And they made him a canon cuck. WTF?
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>>576871948
>I hated Crashdow
Yeah, you just so happened to be friends with everyone involved with it at the time. Anyway idc to bring up the retarded antics you pulled back when you were and underaged lying to people.
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>>576872180
Not but the series is and I believe I was when the first game came out
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>>576872258
What
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>>576872230
I would say it's Activision's fault for failing to do anything good with him after buying him (Spyro, too), but looking at the state of Naughty Dog now, they probably wouldn't have done much better after enough time.
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>>576872258
Rapeficbitch erasure will not be tolerated.
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>>576872005
They haven't deleted it yet and the whole place is just kind of....sad. Like a handful of autists who can't let go of a bygone era and instead of moving on they just sit in their trash heap surrounded by reminders of said era while crying about shit that has absolutely no bearing on even the franchise itself.

They've become a parody of what they were trying to avoid.
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>>576872230
Stfu crash. You never mattered.
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>>576872230
To be fair, it sounds like he’s got ctr 2, crash 5, and a movie on the way if the rumors that confirmed spyro 4 are anything to go off of
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>>576872302
I dont understand being a fan of it still past the age of 12.
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>>576872463
>They've become a parody of what they were trying to avoid.
Can you elaborate? I'm a 2023 newfag
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>>576872171
Why are you so invested in its success if you didn't think it was good?
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>>576872624
I like the designs, the fan games, and the lore
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>>576872624
>i am a shallow bitch who cannot understand people having a different opinion than I do
Gotcha.
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>>576872624
Saying this when you are hyperfixated on Sonic of all things is utterly bizarre

Where is your self awareness
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>>576872809
Because the claim that the next game releasing along the same lines as Frontiers is somehow bad is ludicrous and some faggot trying to sidestep the conversation is stupid. Prove me wrong.
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>>576872331
Activision never wanted Crash and Spyro. Activision bought another company (Vivendi) cause they wanted Blizzard. That other company just happened to own Crash and Spyro. I don't blame them for not wanting to do anything with the IPs.

That said, they should just sell the IPs.

>>576872517
If you believe that, you're dumber than a canandian.
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>>576872624
do you know where we are
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>>576872734
They split off from us because they thought it would kill the community if they didn't. Then the server imploded due to autistic infighting and drama and killed the place anyway.
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>>576872998
So spyro 4 didn’t get announced this year?
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>>576872998
It's not that they didn't want to do anything with them. They just didn't do anything GOOD with them. They released a ton of games people hated (except like... Twinsanity, I guess? I never played it), perverted Spyro entirely with toys to life, and finally went out of their way to just remake all of the Naughty Dog games only to release Crash 4 which specifically goes out of its way to say that none of the other games after 3 happened and then bombed anyway. It'd have been better if they just sat on the IPs, unironically.
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>>576872967
Do you think Kishimoto is able to fix the open zone formula? He tried doing that in Update 3 by changing the platforming mechanics to focus on using Sonic’s movement speed rather than relying on gimmicks and enabling a free camera during platforming.
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>>576872624
I'm 45.
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>>576873291
I don't know what he is or isn't planning, so all I can say is that with an entire development cycle and some modifications to the base game/code/engine, he could. There's a lot more flexibility than just updating an existing game. Whether he does or not remains to be seen. We still know nothing about the next game.
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>>576873291
If you actually believe Update 3 has good game design this fanbase is beyond saving
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>>576846826
can you though? I highly doubt it.
she'd probably laugh at your small penis
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>>576873497
You don't like its level design?
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>>576868283
Aquaman talks to fish, primarily, as what he's known for. He's considered lame for the same reason "Ripjaws" is not one of Ben 10's popular transformations. Because he's specifically limited to the ocean, when most stories might be far from that.

Talking to ANIMALS in general is inherently a cool superpower because you have control over the animal kingdom from air, land, and sea, and that's why Snow White is the goat.
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>>576873565
>level design
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>>576873667
What's wrong with it? Explain it and stop being so vague
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Drawfag here,I hate niggers
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>>576873665
Talking to and animal doesn't mean you control the animal
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>>576872624
Nah i get you anon it’s a generational thing my little bro is 24 and he has a cool statue of rock star freddy, is just that his generation has this whole genre of being scared of things that were normal in our generation
>animatronic bands(fnaf)
>toys(poppy playtime)
>sonic school house(baldi)
>im pretty sure there’s at least 2 horror things based on muppets
>sonic in general (.exe shit)
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>>576873251
Nope.

Also, that Spyro 4 rumor has been around since 2020 under the moniker "Toys for Bob is working on Spyro 4 and will release it after Crash 4". That's how the rumor monger grift works. You can make a million claims that turn out to be false and none of the retards bat an eye.

>>576873279
Skylanders was under Activision NOT Vivendi but to your point, yes. The Titans games were a bad idea...That sold well enough that Radical Entertainment got to do the Prototype series.
>Sit on the IPs
I ain't fucking blackpilled. If fucking Bubsy can come back and be half-decent then anyone can. Also, Jazz Jackrabbit is still alive and Croc is getting another remaster. In all those cases, none of the publishers/developers have even a quarter of Activision's money.
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>>576873901
Niggas nowadays are scared of empty rooms and being looked at
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Modern Espio is designed to be a joke but the entire fandom has seen him as the coolest guy ever through sheer aura alone, and I just find that interesting.

>>576873872
It doesn't matter when you're so defined by being the embodiment of "kindness", that giant beasts from the jungle will fight for you without question.
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your personal boogieman you hate here, just wanted to say have a day
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>>576874039
"What is solitary confinement, Alex"
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I just realized despite Mephiles not representing the power of Solaris like his Iblis counterpart, Shadow has never been able to beat him in a straight fight. In 06 he needed Omega to back him up and later had Omega AND Rouge's help; where in the end he had to remove his rings. And even in Shadow Generations, Shadow had a Doom Power enchantment. Shadow has never actually defeated Mephiles in solo base form.
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>>576874121
Do you want to be enemies to lovers with me?
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>>576874216
Who the fuck cares
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>>576874457
You cared enough to reply. Played yourself lol.
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>>576874216
Shadow always fights with a Chaos Emerald. Of anything, he's never fought anyone with his "solo base" form.
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>>576874037
Ian wants this to be canon so bad.
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>>576874037
IT'S NO USE!
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>>576873759
>no reply
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>>576874540
That logic doesn't work since I never meaningfully engaged with the content of your post
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>>576874267
only if it's cute and canon
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>>576874457
Why are you undermining Sonic discussion
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I like that ShtH calls Shadow an angel multiple times in the path names
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>>576874541
What the fuck is this garbage
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>amy this
>sonic that
>silver exists
>blaze cute
>surge hot
>tails pedo
blah blah blah
nobody askin the important questions
Are Orbot and Cubot good characters? Are they good for the franchise?
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>>576874862
>I can be your angle...or ur devil

This is why Shadow is cringe
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black angel
white devil
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>>576874719
You wasted time and energy looking at it, having your mind register it, and then type up a reply to it. You did engage.
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>>576875120
Didn't read
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>>576874843
I bet he doesn't say that when he sees regurgitated shipping discussion.
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>>576875039
*Kino
Fallen Angel of Despair
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>>576875561
fake, Espio gets ass blasted by Vector everynight
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>>576875637
I thought Vector was plowing Cream's mom
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>>576875561
Bruh did they just casually sexually assault him and get away with it?

What is this, London?
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>>576874967
I want new figures of them so i can add them to my robot collection
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>>576875561
Silversissies, this is your mindset.
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>>576873995
>Skylanders was under Activision NOT Vivendi
I mean that's what I said, yeah. Activision.
>I ain't fucking blackpilled.
I mean you've got a better outlook on it than I do. I was really hoping that when they made the 1-3 remakes and the CTR remake and they were digging into the original games and talking to the original dev team to understand the level design and looking at the quality of those games, I really believed they could deliver on something new. But Crash 4 felt like they just sort of... didn't learn anything from the whole ordeal.
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>>576876082
wut?
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>>576873901
I think it’s less fear and more just kids being interested in dark stuff with mysterious backstories. To me, mascot horror is the natural progression of where mascot platformers would’ve gone if they hadn’t died off in the 2000s, judging by how dark and serious a lot of them tried to be like the jak and daxter past the first game, shadow 05, vexx, ratchet in deadlocked, etc.
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>>576876205
Silversissies self insert as shitver and dream about being assaulted on public like that.
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>>576875770
Vector wouldn't settle for the town bicycle, he prefers the anime twink mc'ninja under his employ
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>>576874967
Honestly I could take or leave Orbot by himself, but he's a good counterpart to Cubot, who I do like. Though I mostly like Boom Cubot and not the one that kept changing voice chips in Colors.
>Are they good for the franchise?
I think they have their place and I think they can be utilized without getting in the way. I do like how they're very obviously still around in the lobbies and the jukebox/credits for CrossWorlds even if they have no dialog.
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>>576876247
Shad05 was mocked on release and Vexx was played by no one
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is anyone here willing to send their sonic rumble friend codes, I want the free referral red star rings
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>>576876417
Nobody here is playing that shit famalam
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>>576876396
I’m just pointing out the direction game mascots were taking in the 2000s and why 90% of game mascots that got popular with kids in the 2010s had some creepy and dark twist to them.
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>>576874967
SA-55 was much better. His style was almost like dry British humor rather than a Japanese double-act, which is funny because SA-55 was a Japanese invention and Orbot & Cubot were 'merimutts.
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>>576875190
But what if I said you were based in that post?
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>>576876536
well don't fucking blame me for going to the SONIC general for the SONIC game
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>>576876396
>Shad05 was mocked on release
This is such a weird statement to hear in 2026 because that kind of thing was in at the time. Remember that the game happened because people were ASKING for Sonic to have a gun. People WANTED this at the time. And even now certain parts of the community really want Shadow to have a gun again.
https://youtu.be/R2ZlycorApQ?t=57
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>>576876629
this place didn't even give crossworlds a shot when the game was active
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>>576876762
pump action mp5 lmao
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>>576876417
Just go the Steam forum for the game. People post them there all the time and I'm sure almost none of them ever get used. You'd make someone's day.
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>>576876826
/sthg/ hates Sonic games
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>>576873768
Agreed. What a blight in all of our existences.

We shouldn't have to deal with them ever.
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>>576876314
Still salty about shitaze being proven as a worse character?
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>>576876762
>people were asking for Sonic to have a gun

As so.eone who actually was alive at that time, nobody was asking for Sonic to have a gun bro.
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>>576877914
/sthg/ unironically hates sonic in general
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>>576877914
As they should.

>>576878195
As they should.
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>>576874967
Orbot and Cubot are on the weaker side as far a Eggmans henchmen go. I don't think they really add anything to the games they are in, outside of giving Eggman someone to talk to, and in that regard they somewhat highlight the (slight) weakness of Eggman's role in the games outside of being a source of conflict/a boss the player needs to fight; Eggman isn't too entertaining on his own.


They should canonize Tribot.
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enjoy
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>>576875561
Why was Espio sitting straight forward the window
Why Silver tried to talk to him thru a window instead of going thru the door is he stupid?
Why there are no curtains in that window
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>>576878287
This is out of character
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>>576878218
>>>576877914 (You)
>As they should.
How can they be improved then?
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>>576878195
>>576878195
Is this hate a symptom of these threads or is it just innate to the average /sthg/ anon?
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To hate Sonic is to love a time where Sonic had not yet become a stranger to you
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>>576878287
>gay ai slop
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https://old.sonicstadium.org/2005/10/gamestm-interview-with-yuji-naka/

Was he right bros?
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>>576878269
>They should canonize Tribot
And add another pointless character that only exists to chatter in cutscene?
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>>576878069
Sonic Team USA were, after the Japgang had a field day at the local shooting range.
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Question for all mexicans and spics alike.

Do you like Shadow?
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>>576879057
I like Silver
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>>576879057
Claro!
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Fleetway Sonic used a gun once.
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>Silverfags are thirdworlders

Of fucking course
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>>576874862
I've been sketching concepts for something like a Super form for the Doom Powers. Would be cool to do more with the subtle Christianity theming https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Moon
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sooo...we excited for Sonic in Fortnite on the 20th
- a fellow anon from /fng/
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>>576878985
yeah but >female
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>>576878585
not ai, found the artist on IB
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>>576878461
more like the handful of anons that keep this zombie general "alive" are thread shitters that hate the IP and come here to bait the character/ship autists.
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>>576878269(me)
>>576874967
Following up, why do you think they never used Orbot & Cubot like the Eggrobos? Most other Eggman peons, even of they are comedic actually fight Sonic every so often, so why were they the exception?
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>>576879317
I'm likely one of the few anons here who actually like and play fortnite so honestly, yeah, it's about damn time he's finally joined
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>>576879646
post some gifs of Sonic when you unlock him
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>>576879474
Once again, something SA-55 did that Orbot & Cubot couldn't deliver.
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>>576879789
hopefully I'm able to get the pass for him, kinda splurged on the Simpsons shop stuff that returned a bit ago (Moe, Krusty, and Scratchy were skins I wanted)
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>>576878287
Enjoy what? trauma?
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WE LOVE FORTNITE

WE LOVE FORTNITE
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>>576879474
Do Orbot and Cubot look like fighters to you?
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>>576879057
Yes but as long as he's not being shilled at the expense of the other characters
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Well. She's not crying. That's an improvement.
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>>576872938
I literally just shared my opinion and you sperged
>>576872858
FNAFs has fangames that arent just reskins?
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>>576879271
Get out there and learn about other countries and cultures. Murica isn't the only 1st world country and just because a country isn't over-industrialized and doesn't have 15-minute cities everywhere doesn't make it bad country
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>>576880325
So you hate Shadow
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>>576880464
Yeah, well unless you consider anything the classic sit n survive gameplay a reskin, it’s fangame scene honestly rivals sonic’s in terms of the amount of stuff.
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>>576880354
boolly
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>>576876139
>I was really hoping that when they made the 1-3 remakes and the CTR remake and they were digging into the original games and talking to the original dev team to understand the level design and looking at the quality of those games, I really believed they could deliver on something new.

There are several errors in your thought process here.
1) It doesn't take a whole lotta talent to remaster/remake old games. Even rebuilding the game in a new engine is nowhere near as difficult as designing something new from scratch.
2) It was Vicarious Visions and Beenox who did the remakes. Whatever they learned from the remastering process was not applied to Crash 4.
3) You have (correctly) shat on Skylanders but expected Crash 4 to be good? They have the same developer, Toys for Bob.
4) New doesn't equate to good.

That said, you shouldn't give up hope. Fucking Bubsy 4d happened out of fucking nowhere.
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>>576880608
>it’s fangame scene honestly rivals sonic’s in terms of the amount of stuff.
Sonic fangames are kinda dying off because Sonic fans don't want them anymore
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>>576872939
Sonic has unique gameplay you dont get anywhere else and has actual stories as opposed to GameTheory bait "lore".
>>576873064
Do you?
>>576873901
I see. I may never get it. But thanks for engaging in good faith.
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>>576880354
Rape
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>>576880583
Have you even been to America
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>>576879952
>Scratchy enjoyer
based, that mouse is a dick
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>>576880756
Yes
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>>576880354
Men are trash and sexiness is a sin
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>>576880325
That's not possible for any character that is very popular and this is something every characterfag needs to accept
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>>576880703
Alright, well if you ever check out any fnaf fangames, I’d recommend radiance’s games, the fuckboy games, the titles in the fanverse, and especially frickbear’s 3
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Sex with mobian children
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>>576880723
>Sonic has unique gameplay

It's just a Mario clone
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>>576880962
someone who is invested in dumb FNAF fangames here, if you want a more sonic-flavored one, genuinely check out Knuckles' Week at Sonic's, it is PEAK
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>>576876247
>To me, mascot horror is the natural progression of where mascot platformers would’ve gone if they hadn’t died off in the 2000s, judging by how dark and serious a lot of them tried to be like the jak and daxter past the first game, shadow 05, vexx, ratchet in deadlocked, etc.
Its not really the same at all.

Ratchet and Jak were more going for the GTA shit. Its more edgy than dark or "creepy".
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>>576880798
No you haven't
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>>576880858
I miss Drago.
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Sonic needs a survival horror game as atmospherically and emotionally intense as The Last of Us minus the token alphabet characters
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>>576880864
It is possible, just because Sonic Team is awful at hiding their biases doesn't mean character balance can't be a thing
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>>576876613
>SA-55 was much better
Why would Eggman make a robot ehose entire purpose and existence is to laugh and cringe at him and call him a retard?
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>>576881112
I live in the US
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>>576881182
Dragofag? He fucked off because of the samefagging Eliasfag
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>>576880072
Yeah!
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>>576878069
People were asking as early as SA1. That's why they made Gamma. Then thry insisted they wanted Sonic to have a rifle specifically, so thry went (okay no, but we can have Shadow have one instead)
This has been known for years.

The simple reality is the early internet discourse around Sonic via journos and the niche internet were very disconnected from what the wider audience actually thought and felt and always were. But they convinced themselves and others otherwise.
I remember between 2005 and 2015, Shadow was considered more just meh or underated with vocal haters, until the reviews started coming out about it.

General audiences who actually played it had a soft spot for it. People would do lots of content around it back then around Shadow being an edgy dude with a gun in his car doing drive-bys lol.
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>>576882146
No they weren't
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>>576882146
>"nu-huh, we all wanted him to have a gun!!"
Ok.
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>>576882146
Your personal biases are not fact
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>Hope Kintobor is a Maria clone now
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>>576881484
>Eggman gave SA-55 the Metal Sonic lobotomy special.

Horrifying.
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>>576880703
I think fans want fangames. They are just tired of every fangame being a clone that plays the same.
Fangames need to and should do more things than just trying to be rolling simulators where you hold forward to go fast.
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>>576880979
Never was.
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>>576882706
I want a strategy game where I play as Robotnik.
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Fujos disgust me.
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>>576881267
Balance is a fake meme. People dont actually want balance. They just use it as an excuse to try and elevate themselves and their pet character artificially.
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Sonurge
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>>576882970
Me too. That's why I'm so glad they're going to lose next year
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https://x.com/_GAi92/status/2086157290311233569/video/1
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>>576883032
Shut the fuck up you schizo
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sonamy
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shitty friends assholes were right. there's no reason and no way to squeeze multiple characters without some character being snubbed. sa2 has amy tailsfags pissed despite being some of their better character moments while 06 has older fans pissed about the treatment of the core 4. heroes is the only game you don't see fags complain about while ironically being the poster boy for why the games don't need so many reoccurring characters
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>>576883260
Lazy fucker.
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>>576882205
Yes they were.
>>576882253
I didn't but people did. And then most people who played the game before being internet poisoned thought it was okay or even liked it.
>>576882395
They aren't mine though, also youre bald.
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>still taking the bait
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>>576883032
Holy fvcking trvth nvke
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>>576883421
>schizo
Youre just mad because im honest.
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drawfags
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>>576884032
are never here
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>>576884032
are no more
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can we all just stop arguing and instead gush about how cute punk amy is?
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>>576884112
no one is here anymore
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>>576884198
none of us are real
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>>576883460
>amy tailsfags pissed despite being some of their better character moments
I like them both in that game. Imo, Tails was at his best in SA2.
Amy was good in SA2 despite detractors saying otherwise. But I do think she was overall at her peak on Heroes.

>while 06 has older fans pissed about the treatment of the core 4. heroes is the only game you don't see fags complain about while ironically being the poster boy for why the games don't need so many reoccurring characters

The kinds of people that think we need every character game into the series with Heroes to begin with.


But yeah Shirtyfriendsfags had a point even if their motives weren't strictly pure and they complained about the wrong thing. They were gesturing towards something true and real.
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Thinks he's hidden
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>>576884120
Amy looks good in many different outfits. Sonic X gave her some really good ones
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The one benefit to being slow is that it becomes obvious when someone is samefagging.
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hey guys, it's 8/8, y'know what that means.
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>>576884343
Who?
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>>576884501
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>>576884501
It's not like our useless drawfags deliver any.
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>>576883903
The simple reality is, functionability and viability matter most.
Anyone pretending otherwise is pushing an agenda.

No, Cream, Silver Blaze, Infinite, Mighty, Ray, Fang, and even Metal do not need to be in everything, nor do we have some responsibility to "make them work".

This is a vidrogame series.
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>>576884718
u iz welcome :D
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2dcycle leak
https://litter.catbox.moe/q8r3o8bawzbvhpoe.gif
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bending over for all the drawfags
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>>576884673
Y'KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
https://aryion.com/g4/view/758183
https://aryion.com/g4/view/1008425
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>>576884958
I'll thank you if I'll see any.
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>>576884120
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>>576885124
fuck the surge one is hot
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>>576886004
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I'm gonna shit in your pants.
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>>576878069
>>576882205
>>576882253
>>576882395
I swear, I can't go do shit without people accusing me of lying about basic shit while I'm gone.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160324024549/http://www.1up.com/news/shadow-wrestling-hedgehog
>Yuji Naka later commented on the design of the game. "We had received letters from kids, and many of them had asked for Sonic to have a gun," he said. "We felt that it was not appropriate for Sonic to have a gun, but maybe it would be ok with Shadow and that's how we started on the game."
From Yuji Naka's own fucking mouth. Whoever the other anon who replied was is right and you retards are wrong.
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>>576801301
Twelfth. What surprises me at this point is that she's noticing my little quirks and exploiting them for my pleasure (and her amusement). This makes me realize that her energy, as the receiver, is totally different than mine, the provider. I wonder what my 'him' feels like to her? It's a mutual attraction, but that doesn't mean we get the same thing out of it. It makes me feel... inadequate, I guess for lack of better word, but she says what I'm doing is amazing for her. If she says so. I think I'm beginning to care for her in a new way that I can't really describe yet. This isn't just about me and my raw drive; It's about sharing your inner self to each other in a profound, beautiful way. I feel I must treat this creature well for having me... I believe I'll start with breakfast tomorrow.
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Alright /sthg/
who is your favorite IDW oc character?
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>>576886571
The sex bug.
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Unpopular opinion, but I like Marble Zone. I like the old Romano-Greek style to it (mostly Greek), the music, the slow platforms...
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>>576886518
Lots of people here are bored and make up scenarios or their own logistics in their heads and will debate others on it.
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>>576886571
Tangle who is going to friendzone Lesbianwolf because the OC creators were too late to write that in her approved sheet. (It would be Dr. Starline but, eh, he's about to be ruined..any year now.)
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>>576886571
silver
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>>576886523
I hate bot posts.
You will never be a human.
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>>576883386
https://youtu.be/0RwP1r5UlDM?si=3F4nx-5U-OOfP623
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>>576886902
I genuinely believe the "As someone who was actually alive at that time" anon was dead serious. I was also alive at that time.
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Spring Yard's music is also nice, but some parts are a bit slow. And I can't make head or tail of the background, except that it reminds me that tumblr podcast, the Night Vale one, with that purple sky, these purple buildings, and that weird lettuce at the very bottom.
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>>576886889
Marble Zone is fast if you are good
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>>576887052
Spring Yard Zone's music sounds like Bobby Brown
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>>576886571

>>576886889
Brother!
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>>576886571
Dapple
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>>576886889
>>576887052
I understand why people don't like some of the zones after Green Hill when their general approach to Sonic is that it's a "fast" game and they get a sample of that and then have more complex stages to contend with. But I think the only genuinely bad zone is Labyrinth, and that's entirely because it's a fairly mediocre zone with one of the worst bosses in the series.
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Origin has a lot of small changes.

>>576887085
Yeah, but there's a part I love where you hop from platform to platform as they swing over the lava.
I love waiting until they touch, and then leisurely walk.
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>>576886889
It’s the git gud zone
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The best part about history revisionists is when you utterly ignore then so they have to sound off to themselves in order to attempt their revision. Which in turn reveals them to be crazy or stupid.
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>>576886523
>grounder
>honey
>zooey
damn tails sleeps around
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>>576886889
I also like Matble Zone. The music especially is great.
I like it more than Starlight desu.
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You wouldn't believe how much I just died to this boss. Any hole in the bottom area acts like a black hole that sucks you in.

>>576887331
You mean the Star Light Zone from later, or another area entirely?
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I hope you get hit by a bus full of retarded children.
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Alright.
It's time for the OG Blighttown. The level I never beat as a kid. The level I never TRIED as a kid, I always cheated to start after it, or quit when I reached it.

And the music always reminded me of the swimming pool my parents would take me to, as a kid. I dunno, something about this level feels like a pool.
I'm dead sure, for some reason, that the water is warm.
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>>576887238
The thing is Marble and SpringYard aren't "more complex'". I like Marble Zone but it is just more conventional and bogus standard for the genre.
It the levels were less fast but did something more interesting, most people would probably be more forgiving of em being less fast.
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>>576887520
What’s this all about
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>>576887043
Who were the extra-special kids asking for Sonic to have guns? Short bus or shortest bus?
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>>576887393
>You mean the Star Light Zone from later, or another area entirely?
Starlight Zone from Sonic 1. What else?
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To this day, I still see a boar in the background.

>>576887746
Wasn't there a similar named zone in Sonic CD? And in Chaotix? Starlight Speedway?
I remember the music in Chaotix being awesome, but little else.
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>>576887276
Sometimes Ms. Crazy is right!
>Mr. Stupid has a better track record.
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Introspective: I think I'd be more of a sonamy fan if Amy had massive milkers.
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In 20 years there will be people telling you IDW had zero influence on the franchise and that nobody liked Ian Flynn from day 1.
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>>576887848
Stardust Speedway
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>>576887848
>Wasn't there a similar named zone in Sonic CD?
I guess you mean Stardust Speedway?
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>>576886518
>>576887664
I think Naka was being trolled and didn't realize it. The game was quite possibly memed into existence by bored teenagers taking the piss.
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>>576887664
It was the early 2000s. Everyone wanted everything to be edgy as shit. Kids, too, because it wasn't being censored as much on TV and stuff as it had been before.
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I hope your steering wheel locks on a curb and hit a pole.
I hope you get knocked out and it explodes.
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Thank heaven they made bubbles a LOT more common.

>>576888058
>>576888232
Wasn't Stardust Speedway in Chaotix? Fucking hell, I haven't played these games in decades. Nowaday I can tell you a lot about Age of Empires 2 and what most units are for, but I struggle to remember the levels in Sonic.
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>>576887848
>Wasn't there a similar named zone in Sonic CD? And in Chaotix? Starlight Speedway?
>>576888518
>Wasn't Stardust Speedway in Chaotix?
Speed Slider? I dunno what you're talking about, honestly.
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I hope when you ask for some Coke they give you Pepsi and vice-versa.
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how bad are they going to ruin him?
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>>576888261
Somewhere out there is a PoP fan that would call me a nonfan for only playing WW and TTT
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>>576888696
He was never good to begin with
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>>576888456
All of that? Happened to me! Except that last part.
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I hope your boyfriend fucks your mom and records it.
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>>576888456
....What explodes? The steering wheel, or the curb? What is "it"? WHAT IS IT
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>>576888641
RIGHT, speed slider.
The one with that god-tier track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtqLn6mld98
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>>576888916
The car you fucking retard
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>>576888250
Again, they asked since SA1 and then kept asking even more after.
I remember back then people dunked on Heroes for being too kiddy.
People legit just wanted it, so they made it.
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>>576888916
God damn anon, how the fuck did you find this place?
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>>576888664
But I like Pep- ah vice-versa, well that'd be heartbreaking. :(
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>Origins applies a fading effect ot the invincibility stars
Mmm. I liked the "coat of stars" aesthetics.
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>>576888981
Heroes was too kiddy, that doesn't mean people wanted Sonic with a gun. No one fucking wanted that
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>>576889145
Anon, I don't know how to prove someone wrong with the same thing twice in a single thread, but I also don't know that you should be putting yourself in a position where that has to happen.
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>>576889145
Heroes was very nice, but I really hated how bouncers sometimes would stop working half-jump and send you plummeting to your're are death.
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>>576888956
What car? I thought I was riding a tricycle
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I hope you go to the jungle and get raped by an ape.
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>>576889304
Why would a tricycle have a steering wheel
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I've been falling for 5 minutes and nothing happened. I remember you have to do something here, like jump on some swinging platforms, but I can't find any.
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>>576889427
how can you steer without a steering wheel?
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>>576889514
With the handlebars
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>>576886571
Surge is as good as it gets for IDW like overall i like IDW characters more than the archie OCs because they fit in better with the videogame cast but there’s not much too them, i guess my favorite would be belle if Sage hadn’t made her almost obsolete
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>>576889462
There should be some gaps on each side. I forget which one but one of them has a switch (I think on the left) that opens up a path on the other side.
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>>576889145
Sega always overdoes feedback.
People complained about the cast being too bloated and we got Sonic 4.
People complained about Colors and Lost World being too kiddy and we got Forces. And we only got Colors because people complained about Shadow and 06 being too dark.
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>>576887520
>>576886331
Sonic said this.

>>576882970
Shadow said this.

>>576889308
>>576888895
SHITver said this.
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https://files.catbox.moe/hqjh0i.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/qxp3c6.jpeg
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>>576889603
Yeah, found them. Two platforms on the left side, one has a shield, another has a switch.
Thanks mate.
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>>576889145
Evidently they did. You just lived in a bubble.
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>>576889538
handlebars are just steering wheels that didn't make ends meet
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>>576889713
No, they didn't.
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>>576889651
Colors was actually because proplr complained about Eggman being upstaged and every plot being tied to the Chaos Emeralds instead of them "just being collectables for unlocking Super Sonic".
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>>576886571
Kit.
Mostly because he avoided getting character assassinated unlike the other OCs. He hasn’t even cried a single time which is the really crazy part.
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>>576889802
Fuck you, that's actually clever
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>>576889661
How did you know that was all me?
Btw I hope your brother fucks your sister and gets her pregnant.
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I think they simplified Robotnik's boss.
But a win is a win.
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>>576889945
Kit has cried, whatchu talkin' bout
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>>576889878
I mean he doesn’t get upstaged by a god of destruction in that game but how he’s treated in that game is way more disrespectful and humiliating than any of the dark-era games.
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>>576889308
Rapemy said this.
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I need your best Elias pics stat! What's your favorite outfit for him?
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>>576890005
Hmm, I'm having trouble discerning now if this would be said by Shadow or SHITver.

But as far namefaggotry goes, this is 1:1 what Sparky would say pretty much.
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>>576890234
I hope I go to the jungle and Amy rapes me.
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>>576890262
I don't save pictures of men
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGIs97hC4So

>>576889945
>Hasn't even cried a single time
He's had tears swell up, I know that.
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>>576890262
Sally's Maria...
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why did tangle show sonic her bobs? i thought she was lesbo
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>>576889812
Yeah they did.
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>>576890447
Whisper is the lesbian. Tangle is nohomo.
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>>576890447
She is bi. I think she just loves big titties too much to pass Whisper up
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>>576890447
Your lesbian friends don’t let you suck their tits? They told me it was a common thing, there’s no penetration so it doesn’t count as straight sex
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>>576890005
>>576890294
It's what the incestfoxes say
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>>576890201
The complaint to me was always bad.
Eggman has more aura as a villain in the era if anything. The only game he doesn't is 06 and I suppose Unleashed.
But those were the complaints back then.
Once you realise that the complaints amount to just complaining about things and the explanation is a post hoc rationalization, it makes more sense.
Chaos emeralds were always plot relevant.
Eggman's plan going out of control at the 9th hour after a game long session of him being the goat is petty to complain about.

But these people grew up with SatAM so whatcha gonna do.
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FACT:

Sonic characters have NEVER "developed" past the first year or so of the characters' existence. If you want "development" you hate the character and need to move on.
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I hope you go enroll in college and don′t pass your stupid class.
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>>576891053
Why would I need a class on how to be stupid?
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Tails!
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i check the whiteboard and see one-legged honey creatura
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>>576891273
is shit
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>>576891273
is only liked by faggot pedophiles
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>>576886889
Same, best zone in Sonic 1

>>576890937
>just complaining about things and the explanation is a post hoc rationalization
That's a good way to describe a lot of things that have been said about this series

>Eggman's plan going out of control at the 9th hour after a game long session of him being the goat is petty to complain about.
It also highlights that Eggman doesn't want to destroy the planet, just to be in control
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>>576891209
I hope your kids find some washing powder and snort it.
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>>576891273
*pukes*
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>>576891273
Was in-character during Forces.
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shadamy 3
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>friend asks me about "CRT filters"
>decide to check in Aquatic Ruins
>Sonic Origin took the Options away, can't cheat to it
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!
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>>576891273
...'s fans need to be mass genocided to save /sthg/.
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>>576891479
I hope I'm hitting a line too when they do it
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Best character ever
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>>576891587
Katieslop
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>>576891674
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>>576891716
Katiegem
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>>576891674
Is what I would say if I were still a virgin.
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>>576891590
Origins doesn't include the original roms, it's just the Retro Engine remakes
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I hope you run out of tape while wrapping presents.
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I hope you step on a Lego barefoot.
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I hope your mom makes some spaghetti and runs out of plates
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>>576891741
Cuute :)
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>>576891716
KirkKino
https://x.com/BulmaBunnyGirl/status/2085862349672448043
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>>576891590
Use the Time Attack mode...That's hidden on the Veg-o-matic where nobody will find it. It works as a de-factor level select for all games.
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>>576890937
It is petty, but it all comes from perceived robbery

>if I'm not getting X, then it's Y's fault
is at the core every other argument about Sonic

>Eggman isn't the boss of every stage and the final boss of the game, so it's the monster of the week's fault that he isn't
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>>576892073
It literally is though, fucking retard
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*walks in*
What's anon's beef with Tails?
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>>576891981
now that's going too far anon
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I hope your kids end up like me without a daddy.
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Alright, I think that answers whatever question my friend had.

>>576891810
That is a darn shame.

>>576892058
I don't have it yet. I think? There's no option to mark everything in the museum as read so I can't see what's new and what's "old".
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>>576892284
These are design designs but AWFUL models
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>>576892073
>>if I'm not getting X, then it's Y's fault
>is at the core every other argument about Sonic
I've definitely been guilty of this too in the past

>Eggman isn't the boss of every stage
Classicfags don't realize that this trend, like many others, actually started in 3&K
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IDW Sonic issue #88 fucking sucked. Who is this new writer anyway?
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Iasmin_Omar_Ata
>Non-binary

Sigh, this is gonna be another Sophie Campbell situation isn't it? If IDW Sonic reboots at issue #100 (assuming it makes it there), I won't be surprised.
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>>576892620
Why are these "people" always so awful? Glad people have started fucking up the alphabet mafia on twitter. They deserve it.
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>>576892620
>Non-binary Palestinian-American
Damn we getting some good checkboxes ticked here
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>>576892620
if you say "she" towards a "nonbinary" youd be correct like 90% of the time
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>>576892139
Your pet character is exactly where they should be
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>>576892741
It's worst when you realize this is a Palestinan person. The self-awareness of what would happen if it actually lived in Palestine reminds me of how all of this is fake.
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>>576892993
They're retarded
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>>576891273
Is worse in every way, culprit for seeding one of the worst fandoms ever and should be replaced with Rotor.
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>>576892306
Could be it's on Flicky's island and not the Veg-o-matic. I legit can't remember cause its been awhile since I've played origins.
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>>576893083
>>576892993
>>576892741
>>576892837
>>576892914
What does this has to do with Sonic the Hedgehog, Krack?
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>>576893416
...The person writes for IDW Sonic.
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>>576893416
Not your boogieman and they shove propaganda into the comic.
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>>576893662
Sonic the Hedgehog?
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>>576893662
>Propaganda
Yep, it did write that anti-AI Classic Sonic comic. Man is it fucking funny after IDW got in trouble making AI generated reviews of Blade of Courage.
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Niceeeee
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>>576893790
Uhohmelty
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>>576892837
She (not "it) is a diversity hire

>>576892993
>>576893083
Compare the amount of Israelis who support homosexuality to the amount of Palestinians who support homosexuality and you'll realize Palestinians are based
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>>576893252
What happened here?
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>>576893908
GOOD MORNING SAAAAAAR KRAAAAAAACKK PLEASE SHOW BOOB
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>Move over Sonic. this is what a REAL RACER looks like
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>>576893557
And this >>576893975 is how you're talking about it. What does that has to do with Sonic the Hedgehog games and other related media? I think /pol/ would better fit your intentions.
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Fun fact: The practice of breeding rabbits is called cuniculture.
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>>576888981
>Too kiddy
Millennials were weird
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>Move over Sonic. this is what a REAL RACIST looks like
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Will Sonic Team bring back the action-packed and serious tone of the 2000s games? Do you have confidence that Morio Kishimoto will make the next mainline game much better than Frontiers?
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>>576891472
>That's a good way to describe a lot of things that have been said about this series
Yes. Early on, people complained about Amy and Shadow and them being "nuCharacters". Shadow was new but he was popular and a good character, and Amy was from the Classic era but many of these people didnt play CD. These dame people were also making arguments based on SatAM/AoStH. People would have to correct people over it.

Amy's cards are no different. They were on the series since Classic but they arent part of some people's memory of Amy in the 2000s so they are le bad.


People ditching about Amy being "forced" into the cast are people who came in with Heroes. People going about "where's Cream?" even though she was only really a thing in X, etc.

This applies to gameplay as well. A lot of people make arguments based on symbolic aesthetic shit. Even in terms of gameplay and game design.
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>>576895004
lol
sorry, I meant
LOL
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>>576895098
Good post
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>>576895217
Stop self-replying
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>>576892073
>is at the core every other argument about Sonic
Yup and its annoying. Along with "It's not x, its just Y" when needing yo scapegoat something to protect something without actually just confronting unfair judgements instead.
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>>576895098
>Amy's cards are no different. They were on the series since Classic
As a footnote.
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>>576890937
>>But these people grew up with SatAM so whatcha gonna do.
Holy obsession, SatAM was hardly watched by anyone.
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Move over, Cream! This is what a REAL RACER looks like!
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Tails needs to be drawn with a red rocket more often.
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>>576895574
>SatAM was hardly watched by anyone.
That's the case now, not decades ago.
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>>576892529
>Classicfags don't realize that this trend, like many others, actually started in 3&K
Sonic 3&K is Sonic Adventure 0. Not a coincidence so many Adventurefags love S3&K.
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>>576893908
I forgot about this already but you're right that it's way funnier after getting caught spamming AI reviews on their app.
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>>576894313
You clearly aren't a real person.
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>>576895746
Indeed, it's sad to see "Classicfags" antagonize other fans or the rest of the series.
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>>576895098
>Amy's cards are no different. They were on the series since Classic but they arent part of some people's memory of Amy in the 2000s so they are le bad.
Look up flanderization.

>>People ditching about Amy being "forced" into the cast are people who came in with Heroes. People going about "where's Cream?" even though she was only really a thing in X, etc.
Bestie... I don't know how to break this with you, but Cream was EVERYWHERE. X, Heroes, Advance, Adventure DX. Cream was designed first and foremost as game character. You're getting delirious again.
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>>576893908
Sage as Eggman's AI daughter already acted as a show for how AI can be used for bad. She is just more subtle.
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I like SatAM and Shth
AMA
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>>576895862
Pot calling kettle black bro
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>>576895281
I just agreed with him

>>576895651
The Wisp?
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I hope when Sage grows up, her Eggman genetics don't make her fat. Unless, of course, all her weight goes to her tits.
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>>576896052
>him
Stop talking in third person. You replied to it less than a minute.
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>>576896035
?
I don't antagonize other fans. Even when they like something I don't, I'm happy for them.
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>>576894602
Yeah I didnt get it either. Heroes was kick ass and had the characters grinding off debris from Eggman's air base being blown to smithereens by the boys.

But having characters talk about teamwork was considered cringe, particularly coming off of SA2.

https://youtu.be/yh8eLHsoP2s
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>>576896013
Are you over 30 or under 30?
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>>576896190
late 20s
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>>576896158
You are replying to the guy antagonizing Satamfans
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>>576896135
she's a software program

she isn't going to "grow up"
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>>576896052
You know damn well I wasn't talking about wisps anon.
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>>576896351
I don't see that in the one anonymous post in question.
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>>576896013
Favorite episode?
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>>576895740
No, SatAM was dropped into absolute obscure just during and before Adventure 1 and many moved on from there. By Heroes hardly anyone knew SatAM to begin with.
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Fat retarded schizo making up things and people in his head to get mad at, lmao.
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>>576896637
Quote the post doing that
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>>576895516
The entire basis around which her character motivation and introduction to the series is hardly a "footnote". But sure, lets insist she shpuld have a crossbow instead.


>>576895574
Online discourse around her as substantial.
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>>576896431
there is no evidence that it is ooc for sally to fuck tails
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>>576892529
>actually started in 3&K
*Started in 2 with Mecha Sonic.
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>>576896839
If you can't figure out who I'm talking about then you're probably the one fat retard.
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>>576896393
Eggman is a genius and highly compassionate, of course he isn't going to condemn her to an eternal childhood.
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>>576896468
>Blast to the past. both episodes.
>Doomsday project
>Drood henge
I like lore shit with action
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>>576897002
That still has Eggman (piloting him?) in the background so it's sort of ambiguous. But yeah.
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>>576895842
>talking about sonic is not real
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>>576896971
She probably had her way with Tails more than she did with Sonic.
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>>576897082
Respectable
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>>576897130
Who didn't she fuck more than Sonic?
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The Mediocre Masterpiece Of IDW Sonic The Hedgehog: The 5 Year Retrospective
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If you think about it, Mina had Sally's sloppy second twice.
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>>576896013
What do you think of Rotor on SatAM? Did you like him or what could've been done better for him?
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>>576895897
>Look up flanderization.
Look it up yourself. You dont know what the term means.
>Cream was EVERYWHERE.
Learn to read. The obly game where she was like a "core 5" was Advance 3. Outside of that its just X.

>bestie
Not your boogeyman.
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>>576897082
Wasn't there an episode with that guy where the moon eats a bat?
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>>576896151
That just proves they aren't me. That's too small a window...
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I love you so much
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>>576896345
Props on putting in pre-boot eggy bosses too, kino! I especially love the third plane background roundabout of large fellas there, Tundra and Axel there and such.

And the Nerb boss there too, that one is my fave off pre-reboot and I will forever love Ian for thinking as far back like that. I oughtn't be spilling so much love on a mere Lemmings knockoff pun fest of citizens race, and yet. They are one of my many favorite bits of Archie.
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>>576897904
>t.
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>>576897904
Thanks anon
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>>576897904
I will pay you to cut your stomach open while high on meth and play with your intestines until you pass out all on livestream.
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>>576897295
He's alright? nothing much to say. a mechanic side character.

>>576897764
no?
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>>576897957
Actually... Nerbs were brought back only because Jon Gray begged Ian to bring them back, but i do think they are cool, in lore their territory spans the entire planet's underground
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>>576898142
I remember a weird episode with that guy but only barely. It was all about Tails getting terrorized in a forest.
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If nobody bakes in the next hour or so, the next thread is gonna be a Jazz Jackrabbit general.
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>>576898053
Post it
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>>576898576
>>576898576
>>576898576
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>>576898319
you know what? you're right.
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>>576898617
Oh MY GOD IT WAS REAL
I DIDN'T IMAGINE IT
Thank you, I've been remembering this on and off for years.
I'll have to go watch this evnetually.
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>>576893083
-inbred psychopath



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