Poor Fucking Infantry EditionPrevious thread: >>576680832>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Patch 1.12.0 patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-patch-1-12-0-out-now-skitarii-later-today/122573Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Acknowledged but barely discussed :Left4DeadDeep Rock GalacticKilling FloorPaydayEarth Defense ForceWWZThe Outlast TrialsBarotraumaNo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2and others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
buff arby damage
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
'FAH CHADIA!!!!
>>576860471He can oneshot most elites with his shotgun, what more do you want?
Buff heavyweight to include all monstrosities.
Poxbursters are too loud, make them quieter
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>TFW, You brought a butterfly net to a war zone.
>>576861060As quiet as a... RAT, would you say?
I posted in the dead thread: fix arby by giving the dog its own separate training/talent tree. It's dumb that scum chems have more depth than the doggo
>>576861424>full points into kill trappers priority>the dog will do nothing but stand by your side and go absolutely pitbull on trappers.
>>576861661>the dog does nothing but tackle and automatically dog bomb poxbursters before they can burst first.
>>576861424Comparing the "innovations" that hive scum and skitarii brought to the game, I'd much rather give every class a second skill tree compared to having a more free-form skill tree. Arby having a skill tree specifically for the dog would be fun.
>>576860813Not him but here's a list>buff the shield maul damage by 10%>buff the dog's movement speed so it doesn't take 3 business days to run to a target and kill it>buff razorjaw they basically neutered it to irrelevancy, as a buff make it so that the dog applies the 6 stacks of bleed constantly (max up 16 stacks) when it has pounced a target/latched onto a monstrosity>buff serrated maw in the same way, ie. it applies the brittleness debuff on enemies up till 40% brit>buff Target Selection by extending the effect onto team mates within coherency>buff nuncio by making it follow you>buff/rework arbites auras, all of them suck ass>entirely rework terminus warrant, again>buff Priority Endownment to being +30% mag size>entirely rework the middle section that has go get em and unleashed brutality, picking either of those genuinely just bricks your entire build, they are that bad and that useless
>>576861424That would be cool.It's unrelated but I think a curio rework might be in order too.
hive scum? more like SCUUUUUUUUUM GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG
>the thread discusses hypothetical reworks they'd like to see>meanwhile, at fatshark>*crickets*dorkshiters run purely on a blend of hopium and copium
>>576860361He may be weak, but he has more aura than we ever will.
>>576863423meanwhile, at fatshark>what should the next dlc class be? something cool that everyone would enjoy? commissars? sisters? death cult assassins? maybe even a xenos?>nahh make it uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ratling
>>576863738They won't make a ratling because they do not want to make non-standard heights anymore after the (supposed) fuckery that was designing a dorf and an ogryn.
>>576860813literally what this guy said >>576862239lone wolf should NEVER be an appealing option, you shouldn't be able to talent into removing the defining feature of the class imo. castigators suck, nuncio sucks, terminus warrant giga sucks.
>>576863978goodI say this as a manlet: no one wants to play as a manlet
>>576863738next class is cold trader with xeno guns
>>576864284boring desueldar would be better
What is your favorite weapons for Skitarii? Currently I'm enjoying the Arc-Maul and Arc-rifle, but I haven't really tried much else. Also these are my current talents, I'm working towards power-overload. Anything else in the tree worth looking over? How is the Grenade compaered to the Servo-Skull? >>576863738I honestly don't think that a Eldar would be completely off the table. Base class would be Guardian, but then the talents would lead you towards different aspects like Banshee/Dire-Guardian/Ranger and maybe a warlock? It's not unheard of for inquisitorial retinues to enlist the help of more *civilized* Xenos in dire circumstances, and it would bring some interesting banter to the team. Still it's a far shot, and not what I think would be the most likely
Kickback should have 2 barrels. It'd be fun.
>>576863738Felinids
>>576863676Smelling like Pajeet's unwashed ass is not an aura.
>>576864139The dog isn't the defining feature of arbites. In fact, cyber mastiffs accompany only a very specific type of officer so, if anything, dogless arbites is more "default".
>>576864321you are not going to play as an eldar because they are not going to have tons of eldar running around a rogue trader's ship nor would a bunch of eldar willingly work there
>>576863978They just released non-standard height skitarii
>>576864385Eldar ranger would "fit" powerscale wise considering one chart I saw once online which might or might not have been fake.Then again so would Sororitas, and it's not like gender-lock is an issue or else we wouldn't have Ogryn>>576864523Don't care about lore, this game has no lore
>>576864497its 100% the defining feature of darktide's arbies
>>576864385Arc rifle + shock maul for maximum electrocution is my jam
>>576864679It's sort of what I'm going for myself. Mobility is still the dump-stat for most of the weapons right?
>>576864626>this game has no lore
>>576864659Then why is there the option to remove it? The dog is just one possible spec.
>>576864917>Then why is there the option to remove it?because the swedes are dumb that's why im saying that talent should be removed and the dog buffed
>>576864901he's kinda right though, this game doesn't create anything that will be referenced or mentioned by another source
>>576864596Skitarii is only very slightly taller than the other classes. Ogryn is like double the height, and Bardin was like half the height of the others in VT.
>>576864385>It's not unheard of for inquisitorial retinues to enlist the help of more *civilized* Xenos in dire circumstancesWe know that in the story the Mourningstar is currently being tailed by an eldar vessel. We don't know why though.Also there's occasionally some radio broadcasts in the lobby where it says "potential xenos vessels have been spotted at the system's edge"The eldar ship that's mentioned is most likely either a corsair ship, aka eldar space pirates, or it's a craftworld ship.Corsairs would make the most sense because they are basically eldar version of rogue traders, they largely do whatever the fuck they want, they both raid ships but also trade goods, like pirates in our world during the golden age of piracy.So a corsair ship coming to the Warband to pledge its service, for a price, is not impossible.It also being a craftworld ship also makes sense because craftworlders despise chaos and regularly fight against it because they know chaos is an existential threat not just to the galaxy but to the entire universe.
>>576864901Why do I get called a reject even if I'm playing Arbites or Skitarii? Neither of them are rejects. Lore breaking.Why does Hadron call me a varlet even if I'm Skitarii? Lore breaking.Why does the zealot get access to a relic blade? That stuff is literally reserved for the top tier space marines. Lore breaking.Get real, anon. No one gives a shit about the game hub that is the Mourningstar.
>>576864917>Then why is there the option to remove it?Because the devs are fucking retards and wanted to appeal to the retard faggots who want to get rid of the dog so they can play another type of zealot.
>>576865007>Yes, I want less variety in my videogames
>>576863978it's very clear they can make non standard heightsand why wouldn't a midge class being unable to look over things be a problem? it would simply be part of the class exactly the same as bardinand dont cope about being unable to vault etc. im sure they can just implement a 'fix' if they decided to actually make a midge
>>576865309>removing a feature is varietyI wish I were as retarded as you. Imagine how easy life would be, living exclusively for literally right this instant, no cognitive ability to think for the future...
>>576863738At least 3 of those are covered well enough but yeah hopefully it’s a squat if we have to choose
>>576865357>why wouldn't a midge class being unable to look over things be a problemin this very particular case: because ratlings are supposed to be super top tier sneaky sharpshooters, something that doesn't really fit this gamefurthermore manlet + ranged is a bad idea in a horde game because you won't be able to see shit
>>576865309yes i want things to have specific themes and identities instead of homogenous blobs, deal with itneeding to prop up dogless arby wastes talent tree real estate and makes balancing too complicated
>>576865228>Why do I get called a reject even if I'm playing Arbites or Skitarii? Inquisition handlers are equal opportunity shit talkers. You being a dogfucker or a clanker has no bearing on being treated nice>Why does Hadron call me a varlet even if I'm Skitarii?Because skitarii literally are "varlets", the term literally just means "servant". Skitarii are the servants of the techpriests.>Why does the zealot get access to a relic blade?It's not a real relic blade and the swedes are just fuck ass retarded and used the name because it rolls of the tongue better than "power greatsword".Even though they could've just named it "greatsword" but expecting a swede to figure that out is like expecting a chimpanzee to talk.
>>576865465>Have retarded mutt on your side at all times>Do not like retarded mutt>Can remove retarded mutt and just be Judge Dredd and even get personal buffs for kicking that thing into the trashcan>NOOO YOU MUST HAVE LE HECKIN' WHOLESOME DOGGO WITH YOUIf the solo buffs are not good enough, then you increase those buffs instead of completely removing another thematic way to play the class.
let's be real hereEldar won't be made because they'd need a whole new character model, new character animations, and more than just three or four new weapons because they can't recycle old ones
>>576865528Also ratlings are even shorter than people think.Squats are the actual dwarves, meaning a squat would be the same height as bardin in VT2.A Ratling in 40k would be even SHORTER than a Squat is. This is because ratlings are just based off of hobbits/halflings, it's why they have hairy feet as one of their noticable traits. And why ratlings are known for being sneaky and thieving little shits, aka exactly what Bilbo Baggins is.
>>576865357Obviously they can do it, but it was apparently such a hassle that they don't WANT to anymore.
>>576865704>dont like dog>pick the dog class>get mad at your own choiceshow do you get dressed in the mornings
>>576865704>retarded muttYou're brown
>>576865642I was trying to find counterarguments but I have noneI still don't think it'd be "lore breaking" since I'm pretty sure everyone assumes the game hub isn't that big of a deal to be honest, or else we'd have to consider strange just how many arbitrators and skitarii alpha primus are there on the Mourningstar
>>576865228I’m pretty sure our relic blades aren’t the Astartes variants, I remember someone explaining the difference before, that said it’s weird they named it the same
>>576866093Except it isn't the "dog class" because the option to remove the dog exists. It is a class with the option to have a dog and even spec into it, just like there is the option to not have a dog and spec into more personal power.
>>576866059they're swedes, it could probably be sorted out in one week by a non-lazy dev team
>>576866253They're not, but a "human sized" relic blade still isn't just some bullshit a ranting hobo would be allowed to wield
>>576865920>Eldar won't be made because they'd need a whole new character model, new character animationsThey already did this with skitarii, they just took the regular human character "skeleton" and just made it like 20-30% bigger. Skitarii even use all the same animations as human classes, we know this because they use the same autoguns and other weapons shared by human classes.They wouldn't need to make any new animations for an eldar, they can just recycle the skitarii skeleton and rig for an eldar model.>and more than just three or four new weapons because they can't recycle old onesYou severely underestimate fatshark laziness.Also most eldar weapons that exist are just basically reskins of imperial weapons. Like eldar swords, they are literally just chainswords.Shuriken weapons would be reskinned autoguns but actually good.Fusion gun is just another melta gun.Eldar laser rifles can just be reskinned lasguns but actually good.Eldar power sword would not be any different from an imperial power sword, only the model would change.
>>576865920>Eldar won't be made becauseEldar would just be a tall human like skitarii. Most eldar weapons would just be cosmetic copies of preexisting weapons, maybe with unique bonus effects. Power Sword, Chain Sword, autopistol, lasguns, etc.
>>576866450Inquisitorial acolytes are allowed to wield what their overseeing inquisitor gives them, and inquisitors have access to pretty much anything they could ever want to get their hands on.
>>576866498>They wouldn't need to make any new animations for an eldar, they can just recycle the skitarii skeleton and rig for an eldar model.The human animations are way too clumsy for what an Eldar is supposed to be like. The skeleton is also way too wide.I'd love to see them here, but if they're gonna half-ass it I'd rather they put something else.
im telling you its going to be cold trader instead of an eldar.
Xenos are never ever territory. Most we can hope for is other abhumans.
>>576865704Just say you're Muslim and be done with it, faggot.
>>576866772Vermintide had a dwarf and a wood elf working together, I don't see why not>>576866769No one knows what cold traders are, and they're too un-weird to be DLCIf they do cold traders, it's gonna be hive scum all over again: no one knows what they are, they have no "fan base", and they're not cool enough to be interesting
>go to the NA server to avoid retarded slavgroids>retard in quickplay>check profileMotherfucker...
>>576866253Relic blades are 1 of kind of artifacts that are often extremely old. Aka, they are actual RELICS.They are all basically custom built due to centuries if not thousands of years of repairing and modifications. Also a relic blade doesn't have to necessarily be a sword, it can be an axe or even a spear.Also relic blades would not have any sort of "pattern" or "mark" designation due to the fact they are all ancient relics that are heavily customized. The "pattern" and "mark" designations are literally factory jargon to explain what kind of weapon it is. It's like how in real life guns get named M1911, AK-47, AR-15, etc.If you check the relic blades in game you notice they are labeled as "Munitorum Mk2" and "Munitorum Mk10", aka these blades are just factory made and are stamped out on a god damn assembly line. Which is like I detailed completely OPPOSITE of what actual Relic Blades are in the lore.Fatshark is just retarded and used the wrong term because they thought it'd sound cool.
>>576866895nothing they can realistically add is going to be known to normies. it is NOT going to be sisters becuase that is just a girl zealot
Knife wife when?
/coopg/ should I get a burger, or pasta?Also, I think drukhari would be cool. They wouldn't fit, of course, but I just really want a 40k game that isn't Imperium centric to be honest.
>>576866895>Vermintide had a dwarf and a wood elf working together, I don't see why notBecause those inquisitors that include xenos in their retinues do just that, use them in their personal retinues. We play as acolytes, which are dime-a-dozen nobodies used for the boots on the ground operations. In fact, we are so low in the inquisitorial hierarchy that we do the stuff that the scions are too valuable to be assigned to do. A xeno would never be assigned to such a position, as they would be too valuable to the inquisitor, as status symbols if nothing else.
>>576866662>The human animations are way too clumsy for what an Eldar is supposed to be like.And you think Fatshark fucking cares? NO.Also there's no way to make eldar animations you want and not make them look fucking weird.Also every other game like Owlcat's just uses the same damn animations for human and eldar.
>>576867313Skitarii wasn't known to normies, but they were COOL enough to remedy that. Arbitrators weren't known to normies, but they're Judge Dredd copies so they're COOL.Hive Scum is the only one that suffered because no one wants to play as gangbangers nor cartel members. They're not COOL.Sisters are KNOWN and COOL, and they're not like zealots. Death Cult Assassins aren't KNOWN but they're COOL.
>>576867358this is a burger general,
>>576866895>If they do cold traders, it's gonna be hive scum all over again: no one knows what they are, they have no "fan base", and they're not cool enough to be interestingNevermind that Cold Trader is quite literally is basically just a fucking hive ganger but with xenos weapons. That's it.You might as well just give some xenos guns to hive scum as it is now and you'd arrive at the same point anyway.
>>576867475This whole argument fell apart when they introduced Arbitrators and Skitarii which aren't dime-a-dozen shit eating acolytes.Just introduce some random ass blah blah plotline about Wulfer or whoever is above him holding Soulstones and you have enough justification to introduce Eldar.>>576867496I know they don't care, I just wish they did.
>>576867358>not a kebabDo you have any idea where you are?
>>576867610>>576867742Mixed signals here.
>>576867708Arbites can literally be appointed as acolytes, and they have to agree to it since it's the inquisition. In this case they volunteered to help, but they are still acolytes. Skitarii are much the same, they were called in by Hadron who in turn is working alongside the inquisition.
>>576867540>Sisters are KNOWN and COOL, and they're not like zealots>implyingthey're literally just girl zealots and trying to convince a chud player based to play as a class that's nothing but girls will go over worse than scum did
>>576867742A kebab? in this economy?
Did the averages players skill just drop of a fucking cliff or something? I haven't played in Months, and I came back yesterday for Skitarii, but what I have seen so far is maddening. For some reason I had to start all the way back on Uprising, and I'm now almost at Malice. But I swear that most of these missions are fucking harder than the Auric games I have done. People just ignore specialist, they die to the fucking suicide guys, they will just stand around getting fucked by snipers, and it's like they believe that you either go 100% Melee or ranged, no fucking in between. I mean I haven't played since before the Scum came out, and I'm running circles around these fools, I'll never consider myself more than a bit above average at best, but I have had to carry every single game so far while leveling a new class. Like I really don't wanna come off like I am bragging or anything, that's not my intention, but what the fuck happened? When did it get this bad?
>>576868081>they're literally just girl zealots and trying to convince a chud player based to play as a class that's nothing but girls will go over worse than scum didKerillian is the most played character in Vermintide anonpipi.I know you probably think chud twitter accounts and their kind make up for 99% of the 40K fanbase, but that's just not true. People would buy Sisters like crazy.
Un ptit kebab, chef? Salade-tomates-oignons? La ptite sauce du patron avec ça?
>>576868275That's because she's the only female character, anon. Why would anyone play (and first of all pay for) a sister when they can just make a female zealot?
>>576868236>and I'm now almost at MaliceFucked up the naming here. I meant the difficulty above Heresy
>>576865062They added a darktide reference in the Rogue Trader CRPG
Anyone playing Gears E-Day Beta or is it just me?Please don't be mad /v/ is impossible to discuss shit with.
>>576867965>In this case they volunteered to help, but they are still acolytes.No. To be an acolyte you need to be inducted into the inquisition AS an acolyte. Currently all arbites we play as are just working alongside the inquisition but aren't part of it.Only the 4 original classes get the final cutscene where Rannick says "welcome to the inquisition".
>>576865228Because that's the catch all for "player". Stop pissing and whining because they didn't record voice lines to suck your ego off.
Should I grind Expeditions for the penances or wait for Fatshark to revamp them?
are the dual stub pistols really that good? the autopistols feel better
>>576867965Maybe, but they're not dime-a-dozen lowest-of-the-low nobodies.At this point, it can be pretty much assumed that all the rejects are now auric operators, which aren't bullshit. Expendable, sure, but who isn't in 40k?>>576868436>she's the only female characterSienna is also a woman.>Why would anyone play (and first of all pay for) a sister when they can just make a female zealot?Cosmetics, skills, voice lines, the same reason anyone buys any new class instead of playing veteran.
>>576868769it's pretty fun if you stick to malice.
>>576868813>Sienna is also a woman.She's an old grandma, people don't like playing as that.
>>576868812Who said they were good? they're absolute trash, autopistols are trash as well. Use shredder instead.Is that Mister E again?
>>576868887which is why introducing a sister of battle with a young voice would sell like hotcakeseveryone likes pretty women
>>576866772Sad but true>>576866895Vermintide doesn’t have the narrative blocking such a collaboration
>>576868960no its the top rated build https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a077be66-a1c9-4623-aa8c-3ce4af979bbd/crackhead-john-wick-buildi've read it more and he says autopistols is just as goodi'd rather use the class exclusive weapons desu
>>576868769I'm glad I got the tech remnant collection done before Fatshark changed it to put you at the mercy of deadweight bleeding off your collecting. Who knows what horrible thing they will do to it next.
>>576868742Acolyte is just the name for someone who is helping an inquisitor with their goals. A random person on the street that an inquisitor asks to keep an ear out for any interesting information would technically be considered an acolyte for as long as they were committed to the task.There is no formal contract between the inquisition and the acolytes, they are just warm bodies to be directed at problems.
>>576869012Inquisitors and rogue traders work with xenos all the time.Guess what the two big bosses in Darktide are.
>>576869147see >>576867475
>>576869104>its the top rated buildAnon, tardslantern is used by the average brainless drooling retard, and score is a popularity contest rigged by content creatoids. It has no fucking meaning whatsoever.
>>576869253You're wrong about that too
>>576869315Go ahead, name a single xeno that was taken in by an inquisitor only to be thrown away on some suicide mission that didn't also involve the inquisitor themself.
>>576866895>>576867652Yeah I always thought that was fucking retarded as an idea it’s just so barebones I get that Fatshark has shown they aren’t shy about phoning classes in but even for them it would be silly to try call that a new class>>576868671I wasn’t aware anyone was playing that
>>576869536>asking for precedent>in 40kBait or retarded, one of the two. The entire setting is made so you can come up with whatever bullshit you want.
>>576869295>average brainless drooling retardthats methe only build i've done myself is melee scum and its working well but when it comes to ranged idk waht to do
>>576869789Oh, in that case we can just add anything because fuck any kind of consistency, right? Next character should be a Borg.
>>576869957I don't know man, this is a game where 4 "dime-a-dozen nobodies" fucking rape thousands of heretics and even shit like beasts of nurgle, chaos spawn and daemonhosts without breaking a sweat.Some eldar ranger going "stupid mon-keigh I'll join your suicide missions in exchange for information about lost soulstones" which Grendyl now has because plot reasons isn't more far-fetched. Or even corsairs which are literally fucking mercenaries.
>>576869147Yes they do. The issue is that thus far everything we’ve done has been pretty relatively routine and nothing has indicated that Grendyl is a radical like that. Even aside from all the gameplay issues and character modeling and any potential issues GW might have with their portrayal this is the biggest roadblock, the story actually needs to get there to establish because it’s a relatively game changing story beat, it firmly establishes everyone on board as ‘ok’ in being in a radical inquisitors affairs including a Rogue Trader and asks even hardasses like the Arbites to look the other way in a way even the Hive Scum isn’t as much of a problem as. A Xenos class needs more groundwork laid out in a way that imperial ones simply don’t need.
>>576869807Sure. Look at builds, read their descriptions if they justify their talent choices, try to figure out what makes them work, then try to make informed decisions. If you are unsure what a skill actually does, that's normal, Swedes can't write descriptions, check the kuli guide for an in-depth explanation.Viable weapons include, in order:>dual autopistolsThis should be your standard choice. Most blessings are fine. Likely the best choice against carapace if you go for a max rending build, because it beams their heads in like 60% of a mag. I would suggest you don't do that though because Desperado builds kinda want CDR and rending stimm gets in the way of that.Dualies are just solid allround.>IAGThe fast firing one is pretty much a direct side grade. Can't sprint, but the recoil pattern doesn't give you vertigo, and it has a more forgiving reload.>power gap>shredder APEffectively non-viable without the accuracy talent, but pretty decent with. Dogshit against snipers, and the reason I can't recommend it, not because scum struggles with snipers, but rather because scum struggles with objectives, meaning you can't afford your distractions to die, and your teammates will never shoot the sniper.All the other ranged choices are basically not even worth considering for Desperado. The stub pistols are genuinely just a contrarian choice that you should only consider for fun. They're good enough, and also fucking miserable because they're borderline worthless against hordes unless you try 20x as hard to meticulously line up each shot. Why do that when you could just magdump an automatic weapon and erase everything?
>>576870217You do realize that for every mission where the rejects rape chaos spawn and beasts of nurgle, there are tens if not hundreds of missions where they get gaped by said things or even just by cultists and traitor guardsmen, right?
>>576869575There's a ton of people playing it i guess just no one on here, or maybe everyone is too busy playing it. It's a lot of fucking fun
>>576868236There was a big sale after Skitarii released; so there's been a wave of new blood. For good or bad.
>>576870248Rogue Trader did it. The same ship hosted two xenos (one of which is extremely hostile and monstrous), an inquisitor and a space marine. The space marine spent months(?) being tortured by the xenos' kind by the way. Rogue Trader's ship, Rogue Trader's rules.It's just not that big of a deal, and it's not that hard to justify if you're really autistic about it. Arbitrators for one don't really give a shit. Just make everyone's voicelines hostile to the Eldar and be done with it.>>576870440Like you've said: out of the hundreds of missions, one of them succeeds.Just like how out of a hundred worlds in the same scenarios where xenos would be like "fuck them lmao", one (this one) has the xenos deciding to lend a hand in exchange for something.
>>576869128>Acolyte is just the name for someone who is helping an inquisitor with their goalsNo, it isn't.To be an acolyte you need to be inducted into inquisition.
>>576869007>which is why introducing a sister of battle with a young voice would sell like hotcakesWe have this with the female fanatic, nobody cares and darktide sold only an average amount.
>>576870752>The same ship hosted two xenosanon do you think there's a difference between two xenos and hundreds and hudnreds of xenos needed logistically to make sense in darktide's setting?there'd need be TONS of them
>>576868394Unironically, is Kebab good? It honestly looks pretty delicous; being a slab of meat.
>>576870342ok thank you very much, did notice desperado has such a long cd compared to rampagei'll try doing my own build and take chem dependancy, vulture mark felt like a nothingburgerthat build has a whole wall of text explaining x and y but felt like shite in auric especially compared to the melee that i can just rape everything in sight and dodge bullshit
>>576870937>Acolytes, Inquisitorial Henchmen, or Agents are the followers an Inquisitor often keeps to aid him in his duties. These can range from combat specialists and psykers to data recorders and scouts. Many of the people an Inquisitor keeps are exceptional in their devotion and skills and are often discovered during the Inquisitor's activities. Often they are one-off attachments, but if they show particular skills then they may be asked to attach themselves to the Inquisitor permanently. Most Inquisitors keep only a handful of helpers relevant to their current mission, but some keep larger numbers, often spread throughout a large area, which can be called upon at any time. In theory, almost any type of Imperial citizen can be seconded by an Inquisitor for service to the Inquisition.In short, there doesn't need to be a fancy induction ceremony like the one the rejects receive in DT, just being told "you work for me now" by an inquisitor or their representative is enough.
>>576871239It's just meat with varied salad served in bread. Authentic, high quality doner kebab is about as good as the best burger you can imagine, just a slightly different flavor profile.Apparently many kebab places are shitholes though. I wouldn't know, the place I frequent is clean and has fresh high quality ingredients.
>>576871138As far as I know, the only time we have a scope of just how many rejects there are is the cutscene where Morrow debriefs us on Wulfer, and there's like 30 at most.And if you want to get real technical about that, then there's HUNDREDS of psykers running around the Mourningstar which would be insane to even consider. Hell, even having so many Ogryns would be strange.
I've swapped 5800x for 9800x3d and this shit is still drops below 60fps, and my 5070 is still not 100% loaded even with rtx.
>>576871239It's something you eat when you're piss drunk outside on a friday night. You don't really care if it's good or not.If you eat kebabs on normal days and sober, you're just a third world nigger
>>576871481sanctioned psykers running around en masse makes more sense than dozens of xenos that are working willingly with man
>>576871354>vulture mark felt like a nothingburgerRead very carefully what stats it conveys. It actually gives the same, if not better, bonuses as chemdep, which is mostly a meme keystone.Chemdep is only good for its cooldown reduction, the other stats are just about pointless as well, and requiring you to use your stimm on a set timer is a large downside compared to using it when you actually need it.That being said, chemdep is actually pretty good for the cooldown reduction specifically with desperado.VM has Vulture's Dodge which is very good with high fire rate and high crit rate guns.Honestly, scum just has kind of bad keystones in general so it doesn't really matter all that much which one you pick. Just that you acknowledge that chemdep is so incomprehensibly overrated by the worst tards imaginable because they can't and won't read.
>>576871854Not all the psyker personalities might be sanctioned and even if they were it's a very bad idea. What about the hundreds of skitarii alpha primus? Hundreds of Cadian veterans? Ogryn? Arbitrators?I'd take my argument a step further and say the "canon" rejects we play as are all much, much, much better than the scum Rannick sends to die every day in Atoma/Tertium. And those canon rejects are few in number.
>>576871239Depends on the place like everything else. A kebab from a place that gives a fuck, is honestly super tasty, and if they mix it with a good salad it really tasty. Sadly loads of these places are just some shitty slop at best or front for criminal activity at worst. It also depends on your own taste, just like Pizzas loads of people sadly have this misconception that more is better, but in the end it comes down to a tasteful combination of ingredients, the salad itself playing a huge part of it. I hate when people will say that a kebab is great when it's just 99% low quality meat.
>>576871239>is seasoned meat good????
>>576871481That many psykers is reasonable considering the population numbers of Atoma and the desperation of the situation. Ogryns likewise are plenty common on hive worlds.
>>57687123990% of kebabs in Yurop will give you a TurboGastro, only migrants and students eat there.
>>576870752Rogue trader isn’t the same, the setup was completely different, and they don’t have organizations like the Nobles and and RT and the Arbites and their opinions and views weighing down on them >Arbitrators for one don't really give a shit.Yes they do. Sentient Xenos are very much against the Lex/Imperial creed they always talk about. Something significant needs to happen in the story justify that kind of leap (which in fairness, has already been setup, they just to need expand on it).
>>576872682>which in fairness, has already been setup, they just to need expand on itWhat's the setup? I'm only aware of the second hive city, which feels like it's building up towards Genestealer Cults, if anything.
>>576872629Only in larger cities, where enough people get piss drunk to become >>576871698 this guy.Shitty restaurants aren't really viable in smaller cities, they get no clients and then just die unless it's just money laundering for crime like >>576872292 said.I can think of 3 good kebab places near me, and only 1 that is pretty bad.I would NOT get kebab in any large city though, because the TurboGastro is real there.
>>576872682The Lex probably also says that everything E-money did is perfect, including the warrants of trade which say rogue traders get to fuck around with xenos a little. The Imperium as a whole is big enough that its own institutions chafe against each other all the time, or else Arbitrators would be hunting down radical inquisitors left and right, and yet they don't because they don't have the power nor the authority to do so.40K as a setting is big enough and has enough excuses that the only question is whether Fatshark wants to do it. If they want to, they can find a lore-friendly justification.>>576872937I'm pretty sure they mentioned Eldar ships fucking around close to Atoma Prime.
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>>576873207The announcement that is sometimes made on the Mourningstar mentions unidentified vessels, not specifically Eldar ships, unless I am mistaken. That could simply mean that some Imperial ships warped in unannounced.Or is it something else that I've missed?
>>576871239englishman...
>>576873207Arbitrators don’t typically do that because those affairs rarely involve them directly. Fucking around with Xenos and maybe trading a thing or two a little is quite different from being asked to personally fight alongside them on imperial soil. Some inquisitor or rogue trader hiring Xenos on another planet that isn’t their own isn’t really their concern. I won’t say this isn’t something that can’t be handwaved if Fatshark wants it bad enough or GW permit it but as is it should logically be a significant roadblock to it, so say nothing of characters like Morrow who very much are not fans of Xenos, at least not without the proper setup for it. >>576873416>>576872937It’s specifically mentioned that there’s an Eldar craft tailing us and it has everyone on edge. We don’t know what they want or why they’re here.
I'm too fucking stupid to be good at anything
>>576873785Actually worse...I'm midwestern
bro lets implement xeno we just need>new rig>GW permission to have tons of xenos walking around on atoma>lore excuse to have a lot of xenos walking around the mourningstar>would need all xenos weapons no overlapvs"bro lets make a coldtrader":>same rig as everyone else>shared weapon pool with 4-5 unique weapons>no lore handwaving needed
>>576874656Don't say that anon
>>576874714>living in america>doesn't even season their meat. as a texan this is incredibly offensive
Why the fuck are shock and electrocution completely different statuses
>>576874656True. You should kill yourself
>>576875007Shock is a direct damage effect while electrocution is a control effect that also buffs the damage of things that can take advantage of it.
>>576875046youre right. no one cares about me and I'm bad at everything I do lol. I really need to work the courage to fucking end my own life haha
Ogryns should NOT be wearing big suits of fancy armour the only acceptable cosmetics on an ogryn are >shirtless or as minimal and ragged a body cosmetic as possible, the grimier and more damaged the better >any pants but bare feet are a huge bonus >absolutely no masks, implants are a grey zone, caps are ideal If I see one more low level niggryn running around in some fancy fucking armour i'm going to lose it
>>576863423I'd like to see NEW FUCKING MAPS
>>576874896I love meat and bread, and taters.mmmmm...taters....Can we get a random american accent in darktide for the fuck of it? I see those Catachan folks and they just scream for a goofy Rambo accent.
>>576875657>He wasn't a valued member of the guard to get some decent gearSad!
>>576875803ratlings have officialy an appalachian accent
>>576875898that's perfectly fine >more skin than armour showing on the chest >cap instead of some fucking mask >regular pants with boots you need to make him look a little a little more fucked up and ugly though, that's another pet peeve of mine. Ogryn's should all look like ugly mean mugs with fucked up scars. Not gigachads with big trimmed beards.
>>576875898This is american maxxing.This guy has been arrested 5 times in korea and japan for rape and let go because of his ability to kill.
>>576875007Akshully shock, electrocution, AND electrocuted are all different status effects
>>576875898>>576876227https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RmQTYLD398
>>576875898>>576876227>>576876389>HOW CAN YOU DO IT? HOW CAN YOU KILL WOMEN EVEN CHILDREN!?>EASY! YOU JUST HAVE TO LEAD THEM A LITTLE BIT HJAHAHA!
>>576876505forgot the "SAAH" on the end
>>576876624true sorry king
>>576876505>BIG MAN! 'OW CAN YOU DO IT? HOW CAN YOU KILL WOMEN AND CHILDREN?!>SAH! I THROW ME LUCKY ROCK AT 'EM, SAH!
>>576876898
>>576876086It's not very visible under the cap, but he has that full face scar that runs through his left eye which is also blinded.
>>576875657>>576875898I love my drip, thank you very much.
>>576875942Which is a shame because I think they’re better off with Irish/Scottish ones
>>576877713and an alternate to it because I like style.
>>576877713nice gimp mask retard
It's a shame they won't be adding a ratling sniper because the bants between him and ogryn would be legendary.
>Rolling Steel>leave>Rolling Steel>leave>Carnival
luv my big lad
>>576881080>SAH! A HIN-er..A Hi..uh?....Oh Grut it...BIG GRUTTIN CHOPPAH, SAH!
>>576878023Every dlc class has new melee weapons. What melee weapons, before even considering range weapons, will Ratlings have so special that Vets cant use?
>>576874715>>new rigJust reuse the skittle one.>>GW permission to have tons of xenos walking around on atomaThey don't need GW's approval for that.>>lore excuse to have a lot of xenos walking around the mourningstarThey are helping because they are gaining something from us for helping them.>>would need all xenos weapons no overlapThis isn't an issue either. Just reskin bunch of the pre-existing weapons and change the sounds.
>>576874715>GW permission to have tons of xenos walking around on atomaa 4 man strike team is not tons, there is no indication of how many strike teams are active at once>lore excuse to have a lot of xenos walking around the mourningstarit's a rogue trader vessel>would need all xenos weapons no overlapthere is no reason a space elf couldn't hold a bolt pistol
My wife
>sexy sister>sniping dwarf>shapechanger?>space elfare these the only options for next character?
>>576884548we will get none of these, it'll be some other random human who is just one of the existing classes, but slightly better save for some buggy interaction that is obscenely strong and winds up being run by at least two players in every lobby you join for the next year (aka when the swedes get back from their trimonthly two-month vacation)
>>576884771>some other random humanthats what im asking, what other random humans are we likely to get
yeah after playing hiv scum ranged i concluded that melee is the better playstyle and more enjoyable
>>576884882You'll get backalley doctor
>>576884548>>shapechanger?>space elfWhat? No>>576884882You should be looking at imperial factions first and foremost and work your way down from there because those are most likely the top of the list is probably stuff like squats and atoman water farmers or whatever the fuck
>>576884548If it's not a sororitas I'm not buying itI've been patient enough with fatshart, give me my sister
>>576886326>sororitasYou're not getting a character with fucking power armor.
>>576888921Doesn't have to be. Argenta doesn't wear power armor for most of the game in rogue trader
>>576888921Yes we will.
>>576867345I need kibby wife to rape me until I cry every day for the rest of my life
>>576888921>bolters? sure>power armor? nuh uhwhy?
imagine the sisters have cute faces
>>576890551yeah, well keep imagining pal
Rivers in the Desert in a clutch situation.
>>576890037>he thinks a bolt pistol is the same as a boltgun
>>576888921you used to say we're not getting a character with carapace and then arbites released
>>576891175what's this, nigra? a lasgun?
We will get another class!
the dude that leaks a bunch of helldivers 2 content and has been posting never seen before pre-alpha footaga/gameplay of the game might start doing videos about darktide soon
>>576890846I believe is better
Man I want the havoc gear but 50 havoc missions sounds like a shitton
>hop in random low havoc with my favourite loadout>get absolutely shredded>contribute nothing>completely helpless>play so shit it feels like an out of body experienceThink the aneurism finally got me brosI'll see you in the big party finder in the sky
>>576898465one time i played so shit in a low havoc i immediately unequipped my true survivor title out of shame afterwards
>>576888921A character with power armor would be retarded but this is Fatshark we're talking about so its going to happen
>>576897040Who the fuck is that
>>576899257An average Vostroyan firstborn female
NMRiH 2 1.0 in TWO days, /coopg/!
>was excited for axe + dagger on zealot>only just now clicked in my brain that it'll likely be on scum too>why play it on zealot when you can play it on scumFUCK
>>576897040You can just help shitters with their low level havocs
>>576860361Purgatus staff and/or perilous combustion nerf when
>>576888921Sororitas have recruits called Novitiates and they already have models on Kill Team, so Fatshark won't have trouble adapting them
>>576891843Bolt pistol (big)
>teammates all die>no problem, I just got to the med terminal, time for them to all watch me solo this entire fucking wave>enemies start sprinting off into the distance in straight lines>oh, server hiccup, it'll be fine though because you don't take damage during these>connection back>I'm downed>connection lost
>There's already zealot in the game and you can make a female zealot>"Guys, they should add a female zealot (power armor) as a *new* class!"
>>576908920UUUUUGGGGHHH YOU FUCKING SHITTER WHY DIDN'T YOU CLUTCH FUUUUUCK FUCKING BLOCKED NEVER JOIN MY GAME AGAIN
>There's already Veteran in the game and you can buy bionic cosmetics for Veteran>"Guys, they should add a cyborg Veteran (bionics) as a *new* class!"
>There's already zealot in the game and you can make a fugly zealot>"Guys, they should add a druggie zealot (drugs&guns) as a *new* class!"
>there's already veteran in the game and you can make a veteran with a shotgun and a shock maul>"guys, they should add shock maul and shotgun veteran (with dog) as a new class!"
>>576909220>>576909317>>576909325All of these classes have different abilities and weapons. What abilities or even weapons could a sister of battle have that isn't already covered by zealot? All I can think of is a meltagun and one gun isn't worth an accompanying class when you could just add the gun for the zealot.
>>576909521>look, I tried my hardest to think of something new and I can't think of anything>that means there is nothing, okay?>my lack of imagination is definitive proof nothing can be made that would make it a new class
>>576909662Not seeing you listing things either, pal.
>>576909220explain to me why this one doesn't make sense
Why even add new classes? Everything is already covered and you're not getting accepted in Havoc 40 anyways. >B-but HIVcumAn accidental fluke
>>576909696here you gohere's one ability
Explain Just a Dream to me. It seems to push my peril to 97 but not further, so does it stop reducing damage when I'm at 97 peril, or is it effectively a 25% damage reduction? Also, will it apply its full effect even when I'm at 96% (or whatever the threshold is)?
>>576884882>thats what im asking, what other random humans are we likely to getAshwaste Nomad.It's a psyker class but specializes in summoning things to fight for him. Ie. It's just necromancer but instead of skeletons it'll be Atoman local fauna.
>>576909882Ah yes, they should recycle even more content from earlier games. What a great idea.
>>576910613>you can't think of any way that sister of battle could be different from zealot!>yes I can, she could be warrior priest>no, that doesn't count
>>576906529>NovitiatesLiterally just female zealots but in nicer clothes.
>>576910697except in the way that they're a different model in the table top, which is the only factor that actually matters
>>576909882This shit is just the skitarii force field blitz. And this is just a shittier psyker bubble, it's ass.
>>576910783Irrelevant.
>>576909521>eviscerator(but good)>chainsword(but good)>flamer(but good)>power sword(good power up mechanic instead of bad one, no the power falchion does not count its movesets are dogshit)Or I suppose they could rework zealot because its signature weapons aren't good and it has no clear association to a background the way veteran has to the guard, ogryn to being a retard gifted sentience last thursday, psygger to being a FREAK and the dlc classes to their respective organizationsLock it to body type 2, force transition all existing body type 1 zealots and add a sororitas skin to the shop that will be in rotation once 3 months after the rework and then never again
>>576910607I do wonder how much Fatshark can pull from Necromunda. At least with CA and Total War Warhammer, what happened with the Vampire Coast DLC was that CA wanted to use more characters from Dreadfleet but apparently a GW rep stepped in and said that they don't have the Dreadfleet license so they can only use two.
>>576910789>you can't name new combat abilities for sororitas because zealot already covers them all>okay you can, but you can't just name new combat abilities for sororitas>they have to also be ones I like>>576910863it is the most relevant part of this discussion, it is the deciding factor in something getting a classthey're not going to fabricate a new class from thin fucking air, everything is based off of table top models
>>576910673And now justify making an entire new class for that instead of introducing that as a new ability/talent line for zealot.
>>576910416Correct, it stops working when you're at critical peril, which is 97% and up. There's no reduced effect when your peril gained from getting hit exceeds the threshold.
>>576911009Adding a combat ability to an existing class would set the precedent for ALL of them to get new abilities, and fatshark isn't going to fucking do that. I bet in your scenario you're even thinking these new abilities will be free (lol).The justification is that fatshark wants to sell fucking classes, retard.
>you can't think of a combat ability for sororitas because zealot already covers it>okay you could, but it doesn't count because I don't like it>okay it does count, but what about [completely fictional scenario that has no chance of ever fucking happening]?
New classes based on how badass they would actually be >sister of battle>objectively most boring speculated class unless you're a porn addicted tranny freak>assassin>most unlikely but also potentially the coolest possible thing they could add >ratling sniper >reasonably likely, extremely cool >squat/votann, peak kino. Dorf bros would be so back. I could larp as space bardin all damn day
>>576911094>Create new abilities for existing classes which requires nominal coding and vfx workvs>Create an entire new class with new models, new voicelines (very expensive), an entire new talent tree and possibly new weaponsNow, which of these options do you think Fatshart would be more likely to choose?
>>576909882Oh shit, is that a shitfuck version of chorus that is worse in every way?! Sign me the fuck up!
>look at thread>retards cycling through bait topics instead of discussing the game as is
>>576911346I could see them reworking a number of zealot or vets ultimate talent nodes but they're never going to tack on a fourth ability to any of the classes. That's too much work for no money. You forget that while a new class is a significant amount of work for these swedes it also represents a not insignificant amount of money for them at the same time
New classes based on how badass they would actually be>sister of battle>Peak kino, the most logical class to add into the game>assassin>most unlikely but also potentially mite b kewl>ratling sniper >Not happening>squat/votann, peak Reddit cringe.
Every weapon in the secondary slot should do 0 damage to all enemies that don't have the specialist tag.
>>576911487You want me to complain about havoc some more? At least class speculation gives us some new material to go around in circles over.
>>576911315Death Cult assassin is the most probable one, actually.
>>576911527What if they added paid skills?>But that'd be pay to win!We already have the Scum, and Arbites for Auric shitters.
>>576911613this wouldn't stop people from magdumping hordes. Also poor vet would get even more buttfucked by maulers and ragers
>>576911315>Assassin>ratlingsAre you sure neither of these isn't fetish like how you describe SoB? Assassins have skin tight latex female suits and ratlings maybe some trashy shortstack quirky notGoblin. Even Ratclick has furry fanart shits.
>>576911676a premium skill tree, seems weird and gay but swedes have done dumb shit before. I don't see it likely. They'd likely just rip out and redo the entire skill tree if they wanted to add something fresh to one of the base game characters
>>576911616>class speculation gives us some new material to go around in circles overNo it doesn't, it has been the same shit practically every day from retarded ideas guys basing their speculation on nothing more than what they'd like to see in the game, then other retards getting mad because they don't want to see it in the game.The answer to any and all speculation is: We don't fucking know until Fathsark says something.
>>576911761official ratling artwork has them looking pretty damn ugly desu. I don't think the swedes could make them have sex appeal unless you're a true freak like the troons who somehow sexualize skittarri Assassins are more than likely not getting added, it's been discussed to death how they exist on a power scale outside of everything in the game imperium or chaos, that we have encountered up this point.
Give me one reason why fatshart would make SoB a class instead of releasing a SoB cosmetic for zealot. Yes, even for male zealot.
>>576911863Hive Nobles/Spyrers in December, fren!
>>576911902Death cult assassins and temple assassins are two different things.
>>576911914they would have done it by now and the krieg slop is proof. They'll add any cosmetic to the game as long as redditors like you keep slurping it up
>>576911932The law of the monkey paw dictates they come with no maps, no interesting dialogue, no plot progression and maybe three or four weapons new weapons that are boring to use, but overpowered.
>>576911346The one they get paid for, idiot. The new class.
>>576911701>Also poor vet would get even more buttfucked by maulers and ragersGood. They need to know their place.
>>576912073i just want larping randoms to be able to be more than dead weight man.... come on now....
>>576912051The one they MIGHT get paid for, you mean. Pretty sure making Hive Scum cost them more than it generated revenue.
>>576912164Everyone bought it
>>5769121641 dollar and it would still have paid more than if they did all the work and didn't charge for it though....
>>576912112Oh they would be. The main cause of death for the average vet is being too tunnel visioned while having their gun out and dying to nothing but trash mobs poking their ass. They'd learn real fast to have their melee out quicker and use blocks.
>>576912164Are you just going to keep coming up with delusions to defend your opinions?
why don't they make a jokaero classhas incredibly versatile weaponry, fits with the inquisitorial theme and you could save so much money on the voice acting(it'd be mas funny too)
>>576912283you might be onto something.....
>>576911902It's Fatshark, they don't like making conventional attractive women, but that doesn't stop people delude themsleves fetish fanart over even like Trapper and Hadron. But since one resident here keep pushing for SoB equals tranny coombrain, so I wonder whatabout the constant asking for Ratlings and Assassins, lesser extend Beastmen? Surely it isn't some biased on this beating the dead horse class discussion.About Votann or dwarves, even DRG discord is also plauged with tranny despite it being a very masculine game.
>>576912238Minus the expenses, anon. Losing money is worse than not making any money.
>>576912357Because the animation rig.
>>576910951>they're not going to fabricate a new class from thin fucking air, everything is based off of table top modelsAnd they won't do Novitiate because Noviatiate is literally just a female zealot with nicer clothes. It's nothing more than that.It's like all faggots saying we need Death Cult Assassin class when in reality that shit is literally just a stealth zealot with a knife.
>>576912494they have to justify their paychecks somehow, the cosmetic work has all been outsourced to jeets who just slap assets together like a big puzzle. So the fatshark higher ups (and probably more importantly the publisher) cracked the whip on them making DLC that would sell. They're not going to keep the dev team around to shit out 2 maps and 6 weapons a year
>>576912709In all likelihood, the team is probably working on the Winds of Magic equivalent for DT
I just really like how they're picking much more visually distinct characters to add to the game. I remember being a bit peeved watching the trailer before the game released and besides the ogryn obviously, none of the characters on screen had anything distinguishable going on with their visual design. I couldn't tell you what the asian zealots role in the game was anymore than i could parse out what made a veteran unique
>>576912784>paywalled difficulty >paywalled enemy faction that SUCKS >mediocre maps please fuck no, i'll buy every deluxe edition for each class in the game if it means they never do the WoM shit for this game.
>>576909882>lets make a faith class>but lets give it a objectively shittier version of chorus>the faithful nun class is worse at their faith related miracles than the local crackhead priest who drinks copius amounts of alcoholI'm glad knowing you don't work at Fatshark.
>>576912804>I couldn't tell you what the asian zealots role in the game wasThe big thunder hammer in her hands didn't clue you in?
>>576912885>if it means they never do the WoM shit for this game.lol guess who is the game director for Darktide
>>576912784They already did this.It's called havoc.>b-but le mapsIt's the same shit, Darktide is just a shittier version of Vermintide, so it getting a shittier version of Weaves is on brand.Which is impressive because Weaves itself already sucked donkey dicks.And no. We are never getting an enemy faction. If we did the devs would've already done so in year 2 of Darktide and sold it to us as DLC.
>>576913189What happened to Fatshart doing what makes them money? Paywalling new content is just that.
>>576913280it didn't lead to great publicity, they can make more money by selling shitty skins and the occasional premium class while maintaining a veneer of respectability. Paywalling maps, enemies and difficulties is not a good look to your average normie these days
>>576913049It's baffling that they let this swedish retard design the weaves, Mortis trials and expeditions when their only succesful game mode (whaos wastes ) was designed by a third party studio and Fatshark didn't learn yetgod I hate swedes
>>576913189So far havoc has been a better version of weaves, I'm not sure what you're on about.
>>576912009>are boring to use, but overpowered.Exactly what I want
>>576913349Fatshart doesn't give a fuck about optics
>Expedition your game
>>576913354The swedish man imagines he is perfect exactly the way he is, he would never learn from anybody else.
>>576912804>big guy, stick the size of a human, can tell he is dumb by the visible tattoos, hairstyle and teeth suggest the personality of the average bri'ish geezer>glowing eyes, wearing pipes for specialized magic apparatus, clearly a marginalized scapegoat persecuted for being born a certain way so they made him a nigger>woman - clearly driven by belief and hysterics, ritualistic seals, tome and robes, terribly impractical melee weapon to bring into the hive's tight corridors and fight hordes of enemies, all point to a deranged individual>john darktide, the everyman, sensible, practical - only person with a GUN, only person with a helmet, only person with face protection going into diseased hellhole, he's literally (You)>no distinguishable visual designAnon I think you might be autistic
>>576914878He looks like someone who pays to watch his wife fucked by migrants.
>>576913390He got filtered by havoc and is angry about it, is what.
>>576915003You paid to watch him fuck your games.
grim
scripture
ammo crate
>MEDIPAC DEPLOYED>It's a hive scum pack
>click on goblins unit>"OUTRIDERS!"
>Crusher spots a Psyker>"I COME FOR YOU WIZARD"
>>576918103
>>576918273NO PSYKER LOOK OUT
>>576917615This actually really bothers me. I've been playing a poison hive scum a lot recently, the build where you're shitting out +6% toughness stim supply bombs every 15 seconds. Both the "medipack" confusion and the visual clutter of the gas make me question if this skill has hidden costs and is just unfun to play with. At the very least it has to make people process if a medipack is a healing medipack or a HS medipack, which means someone can be wrong about which medipacks heal and which ones don't. Which means someone might take a chunk of health from time to time making the mistake, and it's one more thing to think about while trying to survive. They need to make that shit a different color and fuck off with the voice line because no HS stim supply will heal you. The telegraphy is terrible.
>The heavy sword special melee ripostes and then attacksWhy don't chain and power weapon special melees work like this? Hit the button and it powers the weapon and performs a strike all in one button? God knows the thunder hammer would feel so much better to use if it worked like that.
>>576918847>if this skill has hidden costsYes anon. The hidden cost is that you are bricking your entire fucking ability slot to do jack shit with. Crate spam is extremely fucking dogshit. Not only is the poison explosion too slow, it is also too weak. The only remotely useful part is the temporary corruption immunity, and even that is complete and utter ass compared to just bringing a zealot with purity aura. It is also literally entirely pointless outside of AIDS havoc, where, again, it's such a dogshit ability that you're still basically griefing.The literal only reason you should ever consider playing such complete and utter dogshit is for farming that penance that asks you to deploy lots of crates. At least, I remember there being such a penance, and it's the only explanation I can come up with for why so many retards run this retarded griefing non-build.Stop bricking your ability slot and use a real ability.
>>576918847>At the very least it has to make people process if a medipack is a healing medipack or a HS medipackA quick glance at the UI will tell you if a player is carrying a medpack and whether or not they've deployed it. If your teammates don't know how to read UI indicators, they've got bigger problems than figuring out which medpack was dropped. I'm usually pretty happy to have a scum dropping their crates consistently because of its basic corruption immunity and healing. That said, the lowest possible viscosity is only useful if the crate also explodes, you don't need a 15 second CD to maintain your dependency stacks.
>>576918910>>The heavy sword special melee ripostes and then attacksThe special is fucking useless. You apply 10% brittleness on a target.And before you ask, no, you can't stack the brittleness either. It's hard capped at 10%.
>>576860361Is it even possible to play executioner's stance vet in pubs without it feeling like torture? I have to sacrifice too much survivability and melee effectiveness and my team is always either off doing something by themselves or down. I've seen people on youtube discuss executioner's stance builds but it just feels like absolute ass to actually play above heresy
>>576919261>you don't need a 15 second CD to maintain your dependency stacks.It's more extreme than this.You don't need dependency's cooldown reduction because it doesn't interact with the crate. If you're doing the fucking retard build that spams the crate, your cooldown is based on your stimm, which is unaffected by chemdep.This is also using the crate to stack up chemdep to... boost an ability that does nothing, and what else? A bit of TDR? You're better served using literally any other keystone.I cannot emphasize enough how fucking shit crate spam is. If you want to play crate support, use an actual stimm with at least 50% viscosity, preferably higher. I think even a proper crate support is still somewhat questionable, but at least it fucking does something. I don't even really care what stats you put on the stimm as long as it's high viscosity, usually the higher the better.
>>576918273
>>>>muh power armorJust say that it's broken somewhat. Characters will comment on the Sista's tough luck in not being able to find someone who knows how to fix it, and so has to deal with its diminished condition. Sororitas class will be built around lots of Gold Toughness but little health.
>>576919440You take it for the crit rate buff, which doubles the tox stacks you apply, on top of weakpoint strikes. There's better builds, but toxmaxxing ain't bad, or at least it wasn't when carapace spam was still a thing.
>>576911863Pretty much. It’s so stale at this point but at the same time I can’t blame people here for it when it’s such an easy topic of discussion and one of the only ones at this point too.>>576911932If we absolutely had to have one happen though I still stand by it being like this (even though narratively it would probably be pretty silly considering how rare these are supposed to be)>>576912357Those aren’t (typically) combatants, were way more likely to get them as a new NPC that we can upgrade our stuff at than a playable class (not to mention how valuable and rare they are and still aliens)
Power armor this, power armor that. How about you power armor deez nuts?
>>576919669>You take it for the crit rate buff, which doubles the tox stacks you apply,Yes, which is completely pointless if you just used a real ability (Rampage) to deal like triple the upfront damage compared to whatever poison cope you're doing. Poison is indeed bad compared to just becoming a melee rapeblender. You don't need to do some retarded bottom-right-saturated build to use the broken overpowered AIDS gun.
>>576867540>They're not COOL.tastelet
>>576867540Say the line about hotcakes.
>>576919631Retarded idea.>lets send our soldier into a warzone with a dysfunctional piece of equipment>and no we won't have either of the 2 fucking techpriests on the ship who are in charge of maintaining ALL EQUIPMENT on board look at it and fix itFucking dumbass idea, you have to be a nigger or other sort of brown to think this is a good idea for a class.
Maybe instead of adding new redundant class, expand upon existing ones? New weapons, cosmetics, voice lines, personalities and so on?
>>576919974>lets send our soldier into a warzoneShe was present, not sent there like you had a mail order Sister hotline.>2 fucking techpriestsDon't know how to fix the specific problem her armor is suffering from.>low intelligence post
>>576867540Sisters won't be added for the same reason why marines won't be added.If they either of them arrive the story and game are over because they will destroy everything and won't leave a stone unturned. There won't be a Tertium to rebuild after "saving" it.
>>576920008Hard to sell these things because they promised or something, but god knows I'd pay for some weapon packs, please for the love of god give us some new toys to play with. I am on my knees begging here.
>>576920073>>low intelligence postGood of you to sign your post and realize this.
>>576867358>but I just really want a 40k game that isn't Imperium centric to be honest.tide game where we play eldarCHADS scything through hordes of mon'keigh cattle when? make sure we kill hundreds of space marines and maybe some custodes to make corpsecucks seethe
>>576920242Ain't happening, space elfs are bolter fodder for the protagonists of the setting and coping doesn't change that
>>576920205That's too bad though, people can see what you are posting. That won't save you.
>>576919381nah the game loves to throw cunts at you whenever you dare aim for more than three nanoseconds
>>576919381you use iag or repeateryou can use helbore, but that requires you to be good at dodging and stabbing people with your bayonet
>>576920242lol keep dreaming man I’m an eldar fan myself (of all varieties) and the chances of that happening are so low it almost ruins my day
>>576919305It's not the effect I like but the fluidity of use. Being able to weave that special attack into your combos which then resets you back into a neutral strikedown heavy feels really nice. There's none of that with the activated weapons because the activation and the consequent attack are two different actions.
>>576919261Not saying it's impossible, just saying it puts a burden on your teammates that doesn't otherwise exist. You're dropping one every 15 seconds, that's a good bit of checking. When otherwise, a green gas pack mean heals 100% of the time.I think the zealot and HS toxin grenades are better versions of this. It might take .02 seconds of processing to decide if you can walk in them or not, but you don't have to take your eyes off of the battlefield to decide. Plus you know you're safer in them, with the HS pack you don't know what you're getting. >>576919440Calm yourself, you annoying nigger. It might not be the best build in the game but toxin is too strong for the credit you're giving it. 7 stack AOE chem toxin every 15 seconds + syringe pistol with boosted crit does some damage.
>>576921737>7 stack AOE chem toxin every 15 secondsIn the time it takes between you dropping the crate, and it exploding, you could've just cut the head off any enemies that were affected by it, had you just used an actually useful ability.By the time they tick out to the poison, you could already be killing the next pack.Stop trying to mislead newfags into playing complete and utter dogshit, retard.
>>576921859I asked you to calm your retard rage and you did not comply. I will not be interacting with you further.
>>576921958Good, go be an opinionated malicenigger elsewhere, fucking faggot.
in your informed opinion would they ever make a new Warhammer Fantasy Battles/Old World game that isn't a mobile title?
>>576921958He's right and you're wrong. Don't mislead people and then get triggered when someone smarter shows up to guide the person to the right path. You're the faggot in this situation
>>576920842surely there's some modder out there with the means, the creativity and the right engine/game to use
>>576920381>bolter fodderNah, it's worse. At least being bolter fodder allows you to still be cool as fuck, like Necrons, Orks, and Tyranids. I mean, the Guard, too, they have so many fans when their job is just to die so space marines can look more cool. The job of the Eldar isn't to die to make the protagonists look cool, it's to show up to save the Imperium from an unwinnable situation, get none of the credit, offer prophetic advice that's 100% true but gets ignored because they were written to be retarded about it (or the person listening was an utter sperg who won't listen to le heccin xenos) and end up being used in shitposts about how Guilliman has an eldar GF. Cadia gets blown up? Good thing the Eldar show up to save everyone on the remnants of the planet from certain death. Guilliman frozen in stasis with a fatal wound that will kill him when unfrozen? The eldar save him. Even the Dark Eldar were slated to repair the damn Golden Throne, and only stopped at the last minute. Try to kill Slaanesh permanently? The Deathwatch show up to ruin the plan. Far worse than being enemies to fight, the Eldar instead spend almost all their narrative time as basically being cucked to help the Imperium. It's literally entirely on them that Guilliman is now part of the setting again (which ruins the entire soul of the setting btw) and the Imperium doesn't even have a truce with them or anything as a reward. The only 'reward' is some vague 'ahhh the galaxy will live on' gay shit
>>576922164I can only hope so. The setting is frankly too good with too much potential to be left to rot like that. I doubt we’ll get anything triple A quality at this rate but at least something with the same potential as Vermintide
>>576923826>*Overhead crits you with heavy eviscerator*Shut the fuck up
>>576925294AIEEEEEE
>>576922164I don't think so. They gave out the WHFB licence during the infancy of Age of Sigmar, and now that TWW and Vermintide are winding down and AoS is picking up steam I think they're going to try and use the success of those games to try and springboard into generating more interest for Sigmar - that likely means only licenceing AoS games from here on out, since WHFB is practically a direct competitor.
>>576925613Nighttide when?
>3 whole new classes>still no one who can use lasgunsthey could have at least given the recon and infantry lasguns to skitarii
>>576926665what would be the point without shocktrooper
>>576926775more like shockPOOPER
>>576926665lasguns should have been vet exclusive
>>576927017Lasguns should be actually good.
>>576926035would be kinodesu i would like for them to use aos to actually have several enemy factions instead. my ideal situation would be a main focus on gloomspite for gobbokino (and because they're actually pretty horrific when done right, imagine the setting being a city which has the bad moon floating over it, dropping meteors and the rays of light turning peasants into mushroom-infested zombies), then zombies/skeletons and vampires as a second faction because every time i visit drachenfels and such i feel sad that we don't fight any zombies or skellies. add some nighthaunt chads to the roster as special enemies. and then the obvious third choice is skaven again, reskinned with some of their newer aos aesthetics but they can otherwise just reuse most of the rigs from vermintide tbqhi would go for the vermintide-style 'variety of weirdos' premade and forced to work together due to circumstances, instead of reject character who is always an imperiumKEK, but would go even further compared to the ubersreik five. an idoneth (cause sea elves are cool, probably a caster), kharadron (cause sky dwarfs are also cool, shooty focused obviously), then an ogre (plays like ogryn but is less retarded), vampire (because kind of helpful vampires are a warhammer tradition) and finally the fifth character that would fit the kerillian of 'no one likes them and they like no one' would be a chaos warrior because i want to play a fucking chaos warrior for once
Someone in quickplay said my ogryn looked nice!
>>576926665Vet is by far the best lasgun user and it's still mid af
>>576926889oi m8! where's your cacarat?
>>576926665>>576927226>>576927428remove the flashlight from lasgun (in fact, just make flashlights into something that are active on all guns when you're in the dark lol!!!!) and change lasgun alt fire to switch between an automatic fire mode, the current semi auto mode, and then a heavy mode, each using different amounts of ammo to actually justify the retarded system it uses atm
>>576926665Skitarii can use the las pistol
>>576927357Someone said my Scum name was generic so I told him it is a default name and he said yeah
>Every grail knight today has been a retardThis is statistically UNpossible
>>576927226>>576927428Do you not count the laspistol? Because that thing is close to S-tier on vet.
>>576926775You really have to try to run out of ammo with the infantry lasgun, and the mastiff, pickpocket and servo skull add a lot to your ammo economy on the DLC classes as well.
>2 arbitrators in the team>I'm the best specialist sniper in the team>I'm an ogryn>with a rippergun>mfw
>>576928760Obviously he's talking about the infantry lasguns
>make a pure gun build for hive scum>still really good in melee>make a pure gun build for ogryn>melee feels like you're slapping enemies with a wet noodleI think ogryn should be really good in melee by default and that his tree should focus on either buffing your survivability, crowd control, or guns
Remove the RETARDED amounts of recoil from the lasgunsTHEY HAVE AS MUCH VISUAL RECOILAS A BOLTGUNTHE INFANTRY LASGUN, A LASER WEAPON, KICKS AS MUCH AS AN INFANTRY BOLTGUN KICKS.WHYPLEASESWEDENEXPLAIN EXPLAIN EXPLAIN EXPLAIN EXPLAING EPXYN EPXLENH EXPLEJN IM LOSING MY FUCKINHG MIND SWEDEN I WILL RAPE YOU
>>576928950wasn't it because testers said zero recoil felt wierd
>>576928727grigger moment!
>>576928950It's so bizarre too.>laspistol>basically fuck all recoil>recon las>basically no recoil either>helbore>practically no recoil either>infantry las>the damn thing kicks like a fucking mule so you can't even do proper follow up shots, even the OG bolter has better and more managable recoil than the fucking infantry las
>>576928897Use the pickaxes
>>576923826>about how Guilliman has an eldar GF. Based btw>The eldar save him.That wasn’t their effort alone in fairness>Even the Dark Eldar were slated to repair the damn Golden ThroneThat was a silly idea and never going to happen in hindsight Overall it’s true but they still have their cool moments of mutual cooperation with the imperium like the gray knights personally saving and giving them back their soulstones to foster good relationships with them
>>576928727Most of the ones I see don't use knightly temper even though it's one of the craziest talents in the game.>>576928897That's because ogryn weapons trade upfront killing power for high amounts of stagger, whereas scum weapons do not. No one can turn ragers into ragdolls as effortlessly as ogryn.
>>576929146Maybe laser guns should be weird.
>>576925613Aren’t there rumors about them planning to reboot AoS too or was that just bullshit?
>>576929560>Most of the ones I see don't use knightly temper even though it's one of the craziest talents in the game.Extra 24% power is pretty fucking crazy too. Pretty much every GK talent is excellent except the perfect block power one and the speed boost ult one
>the worst team member, the one who constantly die, eats all the nets, all the dogs, all the muties, all the crusher overhead>is the console fag>always
>>576922164What kind of game?If you mean something like the Witcher 3, it'd be cool but I doubt it'd ever happen. Or if it does get made it most likely won't be that great.
>>576930189wished they did dmg
>>576926035Vermintide 3 if it ever happens. (most likely that unnamed UE5 project Fatshark has, but it's seemingly on the backburner currently)
>>576930517Can't wait to play Sigmarines
So let me get this straight... cleave denotes the amount of damage that secondary targets (meaning targets after the first one hit) are assigned with each attack and does not contribute to the amount of enemies you actually cleave through, which in turn is governed by the hit mass of the enemies that are being hit?
imagining what HR at Fatshark acts like is like imagining the Ghoul Stars
>>576920242Coop game with Aspect Warriors, later expanded with Warlocks, Rangers, etc. and even later with Dark Eldar and Exodar additions would be cool but unfortunately it's never happening.
>>576930615Wrong. Cleave affects the amount of enemies you can hit
>>576930615Incorrect. Cleave dictates the amount of cumulative enemy hitmass that your weapon can swing through before it stops hitting additional targets, whereas cleave damage distribution is how much your damage falls off on each consecutive target.
>>576930903So what does ignoring hit mass actually do?
>>576930990Ignores hit mass
>>576930990makes your weapon not stop when hitting heavy metal dudes
>>576928132There's no need to do that. Infantry lasguns already fire very slowly. Just make them automatic and if a player wants to land precise shots then he can just tap, which should be extremely easy for anyone below the age of 60 even on the las carbine. Aversion to manic clicking is actually the the #1 impetus reason for people flocking to the recon lasguns, they just so happened to be meta through most of the game's life cycle.
Ho ho hoMerry Hitmass
>>576930990It lets you cleave more and lose less cleave damage.
>>576931083Then I wager it must not be possible to increase your cleave so much as to be able to do that, or those "ignore hit mass" blessings would be rather useless?
>>576930615Yes and no, cleave and cleave damage are two different stats, with cleave damage often being the hidden one. Cleave determines how much mass your weapon can pass through and cleave damage determines weapon damage distribution between varying degrees of hitmass before it starts to lose effectiveness>>576930990Ignoring hitmass means it does not contribute towards the amount of cleave limit when it triggers, like brutal momentum ignoring hitmass means that if you hit many weakspot kills in a wide slash, you would be able to hit MANY more targets since those weakspot kills contribute 0 to your cleave limit. The damage calculation for cleave damage is too autistic to even try to post about
>>576931283Carapace enemies are programmed to cancel your cleave if hit unless you have a talent, blessing or weapon attack profile to counter it
>branx pickaxe with all the heavy attack nodes + thrust + crunch>used to cleave trough hordes liek butter>one little nigger with a shield made of scrap metal stops meNuke Sweden.
>>576931435This is why weapons with Perfect Strike (like my beloved heavy eviscerator) are meta atm
>>576931679>Krourk MKVI with all the heavy attack nodes + Unstoppable Force + Savage Sweep>Cleaves through everything>Can't be stopped
>>576932135savage sweep lets you cleave trough armor?
>>576931679>thrust on branxUseless>>576931853>Perfect StrikeUseless
>>576932192No. Unstoppable Force does. Charging your heavy attack to full lets you cleave through carapace.
>>576931853There's a guy who's just now learning about cleave mechanics reading this conversation, you shouldn't shitpost like that.
>>576932192Unstoppable Force has the cleave through carapace flag attached to it. Works on any heavy attack. Also lets you pull out infinite cleave on a fully charged heavy attack for a fun trick.
>>576932332He's probably the one genuine retard whi thinks it's good. The thrust on branx mongoloid is here too
all me btw
>>576930517You mean most likely never happening because this company is currently barely limping along
Unstoppable force cleaver is a useless gimmick
>>576932220>>576932428You're just the slav malicelet lol sybau snownigger, human adults are talking
>>576932421>>576932297>>576932135Absolute fucking retards. It doesn't even need to be fully charged to cleave through everything and why is this >>576932135 fucking spastic using savage sweep on a weapon with infinite cleave?
Telopots was right about /coopg/ you're all shitters pretending to be good lmao
>>576932791>uses perfect strike on eviscerator>thinks he isn't a retarded shitterHilarious
im good pretending to be a shitter
>>576932957Meant for >>576932791
>>576933028Still no argument, begone, low IQ nignog, momma is calling you for dinner (you're 35 years old)
>>576930990The only thing that matters is that carapace normally cannot be cleaved, ignoring hit mass lets you cleave them, which is handy when you're going up against scab ragers and vanguards
>>576933161>no argumentWeird thing to say after this brownoid spergout >>576932791If you were smart enough to understand why perfect strike is useless then you wouldn't be using it in the first place
Another question regarding cleave, do blessing effects that impart on-hit buffs consider each target hit during a cleave as its own hit, or is it a once per swing thing?
>>576932894You only get infinite cleave on the fully charged attack and that is a waste of time (and dps) in 99.99% of cases. Savage Sweep increases how much you can cut through by a good margin, which is important in a sea of vanguards or scab ragers. Without it you're stopping after a only few, with it you can cut through the full bunch, other elites mixed in, and anything trying to hide between bulwarks, etc.
>>576933352>I have the best argument here but I won't tell nu-hu teeheehee!Ah ok I'm dealing with a retarded sissy, now I know there's no need to argue with you :)
>>576933473>You only get infinite cleave on the fully charged attackIt works on every heavy attack, fucking retard>>576933512I'm just a few posts in and you have already reached the last stage of argument losing where you try to act so retarded and insufferable that the guy who's been dunking on you gets tired of you and leavesThis says a lot about the intelligence and skill of the average perfect striketard
>>576933412depends.For example bloodletter (chain weapon blessing) will only apply bleed to the enemy that it attaches to, even if the weapon technically hits lighter enemies before attaching. But then there's Scourge (zealot talent). Which I'm pretty sure applies to every enemy hit with a crit. In that case cleaving more enemies will apply the bleed to more enemies.
why do perfect strike trannies get so triggered when you point out that it's a shitty blessing for the eviscerator? skilled players aren't so insecure so they don't shit their pants like this when someone disagrees with them
>>576933412It depends. Consult Kuli's talent and blessing guides on a case by case basis.
>>576933761>It works on every heavy attack, fucking retardMassive dumbass, The cleave through carapace flag applies on every heavy attack. The infinite cleave requires the full charge.
>>576933412Actually I misunderstood. You said buffs. Buffs only count 1 per attack. Regardless of how many enemies you hit with 1 attack.
>>576933886Not so fast.
>>576933874You can't skip slaughterer for savage sweep and then act like you aren't a complete fucking retardPower = cleave and damageYou're doing fuck all damage in exchange for cleaving 3 crushers instead of just 2
>>576931853>eviscerator>metaVanguards don't spawn enough in the big boy difficulties to even warrant building against them. You are outing yourself as a malice shitter.
>>576934332The fact that he's a perfect strike tranny should be enough of a giveaway
>>576934413Perfect Strike has some limited use and Eviscerator may actually be the best weapon at using it, being on a class that can actually reliably and usefully spread bleed on crit.Unfortunately even that isn't enough to make the eviscerator actually good, or ever worth using over the relic blade for any purpose besides maybe speed running Rolling Steel which has a guaranteed captain, so the shield shred is marginally useful.
>>576911315Votann feels like the logical next step, unless they go for Eldar
>>576912997>let's make a faith class>but let's give it an objectively shittier version of shout>the faithful zealot class is worse at their faith related miracles than the local grunt screaming really loudlyI'm glad knowing you don't work in game design.
>>576934130To hit more stuff. It has enough damage to do the job, plus it has both excellent cleave damage distribution and is excellent at applying bleed to multiple enemies. Savage Sweep gives it better overall clear time against most groups (especially when a mass of carapace like vanguards is sitting in them)There is no reason to use the cleaving heavy attacks against crushers, unless you want to kill the stuff around the crushers. You would use its single target combo.
>>576934772Heavy attack spam kills crushers just as fast while doing more stagger and cleaving through them. You haven't had a single correct take this entire time. I swear gigashitters live in an alternate reality
>>576912698>And they won't do Novitiate because Noviatiate is literally just a female zealot with nicer clothes. It's nothing more than that.On the left is some zealot minifigs. On the right is some novitiates. Are these the same exact models? Do they get sold in the same box?
All I want is a list of weapons/blessing that let me deal with vanguards you bunch of autistic retards
>>576935185>I swear gigashitters live in an alternate realityMalice and heresy are basically a completely different game from HISTG auric, maelstroms, and especially havoc 30-40. They are actually playing a different game and think they can extrapolate their retarded kiddie pool knowledge. This happens every time.
>>576935265Ogryns as a classPsyker as a classFlamerRumbler
>>576935265Most arbitrator weapons do it. In fact, anything high impact single target.Any fast attacking weapons tend to do better. They seem to have a limited number of hits, not a limited number of damage before they break. Correct me if I'm wrong.Crusher special just explodes them.Explodey plasma gun clears out groups of them in a couple fully charged shots.By extension, the explodey boltgun/pistol should also do it? I haven't tested those against vanguards because I don't struggle against them.
>>576935185>Heavy attack spam kills crushers just as fastNo it doesn't. You would have to have zero concept of how the weapon works to believe that.>>576934130>in exchange for cleaving 3 crushers instead of just 2Also it goes from 4 to 7 crushers worth of mass.
I don't know anymore if the problem is me or shit teammates, auric quick play seems almost impossible to win if by a miracle I don't get matched with a psyker that keeps dying
>>576932791>it's shit talking brownoid againCan we just skip to the end where you start posting your weird thinly veiled homosexual fantasies?
>>576935265Be more specific.Every weapon and blessing in the game fits the literal interpretation of "lets me deal with vanguards" so obviously that's not what you are asking for.
>>576935597It's both. Auric is full of complete mouthbreathing retards that need to be corpse dragged to the finish line. Most games are like this. To be successful in auric, you need to be able to solo carry the 3 deadweights on your back.If you can't solo carry auric, you should stick close to the next most competent player, hug them, use the buddy system, try to keep each other safe. I would ideally say to "stick with the team", but that's impossible when you have an average of 2-3 maliceniggers farming spawn doors and scouring every far corner for 20 plasteel and then dying to a dog.
>>576935568>No it doesn'tIt absolutely does, dumb fuck>>576935568>Also it goes from 4 to 7 crushers worth of massSomething you will literally never needPicking savage sweep on a weapon with unstoppable force and on a class that gsts +100% cleave from talents instead of picking slaughterer is insanely retarded. I can't image how bad your damage must be if you're playing melee ogryn, because you're even doing less damage against poxwalker hordes because you picked savage sweep over slaughterer. Bafflingly retarded
>>576935597You need to be able to do everything, psyker or not. A good psyker will actually just carry the whole team if it's running a soulblaze build.
>>576935742>and scouring every far corner for 20 plasteelBut I like plasteel and diamantine, you can never have enough of it... :<I got like 1.3 million plasteel and diamantine each
>>576936065Leftclick staff is still more reliable because retards die to shooters that they ignore. Ground pound soulblaze is a meme, flame staff leaves you yourself vulnerable to shooters after all the melee enemies die.
>>576936275I was talking about left click
>>576936336Unsupported soulblaze talents don't really deal an appreciable amount of damage in auric, on builds without shriek or other sources of soulblaze. I can be hitting 900k+ damage numbers, and DoT barely amounts for 50k of that in auric.
>>576936452It's not just about the numbers you're doing, spreading any kind of soulblaze makes everything it touches easier for the rest of your team to kill. They don't have to be built for auric that way because you are effectively lowering the breakpoints for them.
>>576935979>Something you will literally never needIt's also jump of 3 to 9 maulers/scab ragers. I don't know what shit difficulty you play where you only encounter 3 or less maulers at a time, but it is frequently useful in removing elite/mixed groups
>>576936654>but it is frequently useful in removing elite/mixed groupsThat's why i'd pick slaughterer because more damage kills faster. You Absolute massive fucking retard
>>576936571My teammates aren't even built to survive when they're struggling against poxwalkers. They aren't even looking toward the enemies I kill because they're trying to progress backwards through the level on the opposite side of the room.What you say is true in theory, but assumes playing alongside the team, which doesn't happen unless I want to add +10 minutes to every mission's timer by holding the slowest retard's hand. I prefer just letting the fucker die.
>>576936736You get faster overall group clear times with the wider application of direct damage and bleed. It's more damage overall, and kills faster overall.
>>576935246The point is that there is not enough of a mechanical difference to justify their inclusion. The most that you can hope for is some Novitiate cosmetics for the zealot.
are the trannies still fighting eachothers?
IM NOT TRANS IM A REAL WOMAN
>>576937530just wait for the yuropoors to go to bed so we finally have a decent and civilized general
>>576937771je ne dors jamais chef
>>576937636add me ingame
>>576937526So we can never hope for a second ogryn class? A second psyker? No new ogryn weapons ever? No new staves?>novitiate cosmeticsthis would sell easily, if they were going to do it they would've by now
>>576937327Now you're just making shit up because you don't want to admit that you're wrong and retarded. It's purely speculative nonsense that betrays your lack of actual game skill and comprehension
>>576935265play auric or havoc
The "no SoB because Zealot" poster is working overtime today.
>>576938386New weapons for already existing classes are much easier and cheaper to create than entire new classes with new voice acting for the new class and every existing class to banter with them.As for them not doing cosmetics, they are really bad at creating cosmetics period, not just themed cosmetics. It doesn't mean anything that certain kinds of cosmetics do not exist yet, it's just Fatshart being Fatshart.
>>576938386>if they were going to do it they would've by nowThey haven't made novitiate cosmetics because zealot isn't a female only class.Letting male zealots wear sororitas novitiate clothes doesn't make sense. They still aren't going to make a novitiate class because there is no point because it'd mechanically just be zealot.Same goes for sister of battle it's just female zealot with white hair.
>>576939312>Letting male zealots wear sororitas novitiate clothes doesn't make sense.wow. just wow.
>>576939312>Letting male zealots wear sororitas novitiate clothes doesn't make sense.Yeah. I'm going to have to ask you to leave.
>>576939303He's a frequent troll. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the savage sweep on mk 6 cleaver guy. His method of trolling is to make a retarded statement and then defend it by any means necessary for 8 hours straight
>>576939271I play aurics most of the time and there is a lot of vanguards
>>576937870>cleavefag is Fr*nchoh I understand why the brownoid takes now
>>576939628Use brutal momentum
>>576939739Look at the capitalization and punctuation. Not the same guy
>>576935265>>576939628You don't need anything special, just good tactics. Thin out the horde until you can somewhat reliably land singular strikedown hits onto a vanguard, then do that. Ideally your weapon isn't utterly cucked into carapace, that's about it.
>>576939923....what
>>576940036Retard
>>576920242I'd play the shit out of that but it'll never happen
>>576939312>you won't get novitiate or sister, they'll just do cosmetic for them>actually they won't ever those cosmetics
>>576939312>Same goes for sister of battle it's just female zealot with white hair.Ogryn is just Veteran but taller.Zealot is just Veteran but melee.Psyker is just Veteran but with infinite ammo.Arbites is just Veteran but with a dog.Hive Scum is just Veteran but black.Skitarii is just Veteran but with bionic implants.Prove me wrong. You can't.
>>576939304>New weapons for already existing classes are much easier and cheaper to create than entire new classesThey don't get paid for the first one. They do for the second one.
>>576940371My HIVScum is white!
>>576940432Wrong. He's just white-passing latin american and you got deceived. Sorry bro.
>>576940524AAAAAAAAAAA NOOOO HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN TO ME!?!
ALL my characters are females. That's right, the ogryn as well.
>>576940371>Ogryn is just Veteran but taller.Wrong. Ogryn is ogryn, an abhuman.>Zealot is just Veteran but melee.Wrong. Zealot is zealot, a religious human.>Psyker is just Veteran but with infinite ammo.Wrong. Psyker is psyker, a psychic mutant.>Arbites is just Veteran but with a dog.Wrong. Arbites is arbites, a dog handler.>Hive Scum is just Veteran but black.Wrong. Hive Scum is hive scum, a drug addict.>Skitarii is just Veteran but with bionic implants.Wrong. Skitarii is skitarii, a cyborg human.
>>576940695Wrong.
Give ogryn heavy bolter and multi-melta, they'll be perfect boss killer weapons for him.
>>576940830UM ACKSHULLY THAT'S NOT LORE FRIENDLY
>>576940384Darktide is probably generating some passive revenue in the form of Aquila purchases, so technically they are getting "paid" for everything they develop for the game. And the less they have to spend towards said development, the more money in the bank they will accumulate over time.
What are the important must-pick perks on Hive Scum?
>release new weapons>release new skins for said weaponsEasy
>>576940830Ogryn should honestly have most of the heavy weapons that the guard uses. There's no reason he couldn't have a heavy flamer or bolter, or even a fucking missile launcher (fuck hive scum, his dinky rpg can get mogged by massive ogryn launcher).
We should get a plasma pistol.
>>576942010We should get plasma pistol/bolter pistol with sword
>>576941673I assume you mean talents.Burst of energy, tis but a scratch, pickpocket, punching above one's weight. There are a bunch more that are either must pick on a melee or ranged focused build, but not both.
>>576941820It's partly because Fatshark is lazy as fuck and slow as shit when it comes to developement. Meaning there's less opportunities to release weapons.Other part is definetly GW and it's detrimental autism.Honestly Darktide as a whole is fucking cursed. It has probably one of the most incompetent developement studio heading it and developing the game, while the said game is based off of an IP from one of the most controlling and boneheaded companies in existance. Like you couldn't have it any worse.It's no wonder that we only get "4 big" updates per year (in reality only 2 big and 2 small), and each update is specifically designed to be released based on quarterly reports.
>>576942558>IP from one of the most controlling and boneheaded companies in existanceIt's still funny to me how Owlcat have heavily implied that Rogue Trader's Argenta wasn't romanceable because GW said no romancing the Sisters.
>>576942689That is exactly what happened. I think the files with Argenta romance still exist within the gamefiles, or used to at least. It's how people figured out that Argenta was originally meant to be romancable originally.
>>576942926I'm pretty sure it must be just remnants or else people would've modded it in.
>>576941542right, that's why they keep developing classes, because it's not profitableuh huh
>>576943602They can't keep doing it for long, or then they will have to seriously downgrade the banter between the classes so as to not have VA expenses become astronomical.
It should have been one personality per class
Why do so many skitrannies absolutely refuse to use their medic skulls even when they have 4 charges and there are people on the ground getting gangbanged right in front of them
>>576944234Post your source showing that VA costs are prohibitive to fatshark continuing to develop classes.
>>576940432he meant spiritually>>576940524my dude is a gaul from 200BC, from back when white people were the black people of race
>>576945080what if i need to use the skull later in an even more game ending situation?
Next class is going to be the pyroclast and it will come with a total rework of flamers and fire/burning damage.
>>576945080if it looks like we can clear the situation without the skull I won't use it. you'll just go down again in the next room and it will be worse because everyone else will be lower on health, ammo, stimms, grenades etc
>>576945080It's hard to tell if the one you are getting up will be cognizant enough to be on their toes if they get ressed with enemies on them, seeing as it basically has no indication that you are getting ressed.Say, if someone died to a mauler overhead, will ressing them as said mauler is wailing on them do anything but instantly kill them? If it was an unusual slip up, they get clear asap after getting up, if they are just kinda ass, they die.
>>576945154The concept of exponential growth. The more classes they add, the more voicework they have to commission, and the increase is exponential because every preceding class will also have to have banter added towards the new class and vice versa.And VA is a massive chunk of expenses in videogame development where voices are used, so the more of that you have to include, the more prohibitively costly it will be to produce.
Next class will be [Totaly obscure 40K character that appeared ONCE in the 90's in a shit novel wrote by Gary Cuckhead, a 35 years old neckbeard living in his mom's basement]
>>576945874You know how they could cut down on VAs?Gender-locked classes
>>576945874>my source is vibes and second hand knowledgeokay shut the fuck up already
>>576946103>No! They can scale infinitely and have infinite money!This is an 18+ site, anon.
>>576946198>No! You have to accept my conjecture as definitive proof!reddit space
>>576946367that's not a reddit space
>>576945504You know what, I would be okay with this.
>>576946424yes, it is
>>576946603nu-uh!
shut up
>>576946367>Basic logic is conjectureHere you go, tard anon. A diagram depicting the concept in case you are a visual learner.
>>576946746>Basic logicYou know what goes well with logic? Some fucking evidence. Got a count on DLC class voicelines? What to put together a formula for it? Got numbers for what their VA costs are per line?You have fucking nothing but conjecture. I have the word of Fatshark them fucking selves that they want to keep developing classes for the foreseeable future. Shut it.
>>576946035>You know how they could cut down on VAs?By making unique characters who only have 1 voice actor each.
>>576945504there was an event about a fire side and a boosting side so maybe it's a teaser
>>576945874>exponential growthit's not exponential growth you fucking retard the number of edges in a graph scales quadratically wrt the number of verticesfucking retards I keep seeing this shit in darktide discussions, exponential growth asserted when the things you're describing are simple polynomial functions
>>576947114How would you feel if you didn't have rations this morning?
>>576946746>doesn't know babby tier high school math and has to resort to picturesfucking troglodyte.the number of edges in a fully connected unidirection graph with n vertices is n * (n-1) * 1/2
>>576947273you're the mouth breather here. see >>576947187 and >>576947318
>>576945981Good choice, the Shitomancers were heavily used by the Poopturian 502th Nignogs guardsmen during the Wallabingbong campaign. I remember that scene when one of them made a whole squad of Balls Biters poop their armor and I kinda want to see that in Darktide.
>>576947114Even if their VA costs are lower than industry standards (highly doubtful, they have some really fucking good voice talent on the project), they will still grow exponentially with each class released. They can say whatever the fuck they want to say (and why wouldn't they tell the consumer that more is coming, keep playing our game and buy some aquilas while you're at it?), at some point the costs will become untenable unless they sacrifice something.When that point will be reached is another issue entirely, but it WILL be reached if they keep releasing new classes.
>>576947534>502th
>>576947609Yes. This is how they write it in Niggothic. You wouldn't know you're a tourist.
>>576947746>>576947534slavgroid-sama..
So any arby or skitty can remove my precious stacks of Focus target just by tagging shit like the turbomongols they are?
>we can't have sister because troons and AGP or something>we can't have sister because we already have zealot>we can't have sister because power armor is too strong>we can't have sister because I've contrived the economic collapse of fatshark under the weight of VA costshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrkEc2V3mO4&t=46s
>>576947835Yes, Saarovitch?
>>576945504>Pyroclasts are used by Ordo Xenos and have a precedent for being used by other branches of the inquisition>They are specifically sent in as a final solution when an alien infestation has progressed to a stage where recovery of assets is no longer possible and everything must be purged with fire>The second hive city is purportedly lost, most likely to a Genestealer CultIt's all coming together.
>>576948003Please just shut up already. Is there a single thing to your personality other than yapping about sisters?
>>576948138me: I want sister of battle as a class in darktideyou for several hours after: https://youtu.be/4SAfaLKDHlc
>>576947187How do I intuitively tell which is which so I never have a dork like you embarrass me like that?
>>576948408>me: I want sister of battle as a class in darktideYou 15 minutes later>me: I want sister of battle as a class in darktideYou after 24 hours>me: I want sister of battle as a class in darktideYou after a week>me: I want sister of battle as a class in darktideYou after a month>me: I want sister of battle as a class in darktideSix months>me: I want sister of battle as a class in darktideA year>me: I want sister of battle as a class in darktideYap yap yap yap yap yap
>>576948551multiple people say it, it's almost like there's demand for the class or something idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>576948647Yet no one can articulate how the sister would be meaningfully different from the zealot. Curious.
>>576948782>damn, I'm losing>let's loop the whole conversation again!no thanks
>>576948782Oh I'm sure we're going to hear plenty about power armor talents and dual wielding and seraphim jump packs and meltas and hotcakes now that you've asked.
>>576948864It's going in circles precisely because the answer to that question hasn't been offered. Cumbrains are just bleating for a waifu with no consideration what it would actually add to the game.
>>576949017>>576910673
>>576949017You're niggerlooping
>>576948003All of those are correct.We don't need sisters, we have zealots already. Only people who want them are actual trannies, the most insistent SoB poster is a fucking tranny ponyfag from discord that uses reddit as well.
Did some fucking jewtuber bitch about vanguards recently or something?I wanted to check what's up with the constant vanguard melties in here, so I obviously went on plebbit to check where you fucking retards are getting your talking points.>at least 3 massively updooted threads full of vanguard hateIt seems the entire malice and heresy community is being filtered by a guy with a trash can lid while I consider them mild nuisances lol. Are you fuckers trying to force dogshit meme weapons or what?>that one faggot going on about evisceratorskek
>>576949362Imagine annoying everybody on three separate sites over your special interest. Dude doesn't even have an army.
>>576949069Did you miss the keyword "meaningfully" or something? A slightly different type of zealot is not meaningfully different.Look at all of the classes they have introduced. They all have something that sets them thematically apart from the other already existing classes. A sister is literally a power armored zealot, and no amount of recycling saltzpyre's abilities is going to change that fact.
>>576949362I can't imagine what it'll be like to see the SoB announcement that is inevitably coming and react to it with seething anger. Have fun with that.
>>576948864This is just you admitting you have no actual ideas.
>>576949486damn yeah wow, warrior priest isn't different enough from zealot to include, guess vermintide 2 is going to need to delete that class
>>576949490Yeah yeah, it'll happen eventually, whatever, but can you please just fucking shut up about it in the meantime? At least do something funny and show up to the fatshark offices or something to try and convince them in person.
>>576949443>redditanyways vanguards suck and they make the game boring
>>576948537you spend 10 years getting a PhD so you can dunk on people in threads discussing video games on a forum for taiwanese basketweaving related cultural exchange, like I did
>>576949443They are shit because they are way too durable even behind the shield. Shield wielding non-elite enemies in VT2 are just regular enemies behind the shield so it doesn't take several seconds of dancing around one to kill them, you just have to angle your attack correctly and down it goes.The vanguards are good in concept but their execution sucks balls.
>>576949443They need less health and a normal weakpoint damage modifier and then they're fixed. They're enough of a check for stopping cleaves through mixed hordes.
>>576949490>needing to making hypothetical fantasies because he literally has nothing else to postJust go back to r*ddit post about shitters of butthole. We don't need your lolcow tier ass in here.
>>576949619no, because the fact that you push back on it every time it's brought up is funny as hell
>>576949603Let me put it like this. Should the warrior priest be made its own class in VT2, separate from Saltzpyre entirely, with its own VA work and personality? No?Then why are you asking for that in DT, where the zealot already encompasses the basic thematic premise of the religious warrior?
>the retarded xisterfag is still going at it pushing his dogshit class idea
>>576949443I got my opinions from playing the game
Sister tranny puts perfect strike on xir eviscerator
>we NEED female only zealot for the game>it'd be so heackin basedSoB posters please leave
I like using the heavy eviscerator because it's FUN
>>576950516Bullshit, there's no "fun" in darktide.
sister of battle :)
>>576950668Let me tell you my secret...I only come here to shitpost and 99% of posters here are autistic niggers I wouldn't even trust to change a wheel.
>>576950668Then explain the burst of dopamine I get when I power smash my thunder hammer in the head of a charging mutant, killing it just before it grabs me.
>>576950765The worst thing about mossa is not the sadism or pedophilia, it's his preference for slender legs
>>576950916that's your Lovense integration tickling your prostate, you can't fool me
>>576950819You know what? You can't trust me to change your wheel. I wouldn't put the nuts back on properly on purpose.
Next class should be a hot and brown female.
Next class should be deez nuts
sister of battle :D
>>576951230They turned my boy Dranon a Cherubim
Here come the coomers, time to dip
>*ister autism>meltdowns over skill issues>retarded coomer slop>enough filtered posts to fill half my screen with stubs I know I can turn them off, I won'tThe general is particularly low IQ today, I see.
havoc is really fun when you get a competent team
I know you click on all of them just to see what they saysister of battle
>>576952049Most anons here will never experience this because they are the part of the team that makes it incompetent.
>>576951230>panties over the armouroo la la
>>576951006slender leg enjoyers are in a dark age right now, let us have something
>>576952217what game mode do you play to get good enough for havoc, auric maelstrom spam?
>>576951006Asian preferences>>576951101As long as they have a flat tummy
>>576952576If you can just about solo maelstroms on the classes you're good at, as long as it isn't arbitrator or some cheesy ogryn build, you're probably ready for havoc.Actually, you're technically ready for havoc as soon as you can complete a maelstrom, and you should try your initial climb at least to get some weekly resource rewards, and then keep playing one weekly to get the resources trickling in. But for actual h30+, you should have good enough mechanical skill to not fold when left alone with a massive horde and a zillion disablers.That being said, no amount of spamming maelstroms makes you better at figuring out team compositions, what builds are genuinely good in high pressure situations, or general awareness on what to do when. If you forget that your ability exists, you don't belong. If you can't figure out how/when to use your ability correctly, you don't belong either.
sibstr uv brtle ;)
>>576953232Yes goy, post more images I can add to my image filter so I never have to see you tranny faggot post again.
>melty over mossa art
1) having you never reply to me again isn't a problem2) you can add a one pixel edit in mspaint or take a screenshot of the image to bypass these filters :)
Estrogenic posts in this thread
>>576953613Making the schizo tranny go through an elaborate ritual when all I have to do is make 2 clicks is pretty satisfying to know. Please go and do that. I want it to be as upsetting as possible for you to know that I, one inconsequential anonymous user, am ignoring your attention whoring transgender posts. Maybe you'll rope over it. I'd savor it.
>>576953740name 3
>>576953796>elaborate ritualalt + shift + s, ctrl+c, ctrl+vbut again, having this thread flooded with stubs you're going to click on just to see what you filtered is probably better
>>576954060>lowercase responseMy pattern recognition is in full effect.
>>576954283you should filter it :)
>>576934547It doesn’t and they won’t >>576945504>>576948137They need to take it a step further but it probably isn’t the most outlandish thing honestly
>>576954425Good suggestion, post quality skyrocketed
>>576953215For me I think the biggest issue is mechanical skill. I can keep track of the theory quite easily.I did clear a maelstrom and I've played like 3-4 havoc games, tried both arbites and skittles so far. But looking at the shit people fight in H40 on youtube I think I am far from consistent enough and good enough at killing shit quickly to attempt climbing much higher.
>i won!
>>576950765>>576951230>>576953232>tranny retard got btfo so hard that they now just post coomer art because he has fucking nothing elseJust jump off a roof.
>>576955650I'd suggest you either try to climb as one of the easier classes (health zealot comes to mind, unfortunately you'll have to deal with giga shitters in your team, and playing force multiplier for retards is multiplying zero unfortunately), or play a lot of maelstroms on one of the harder solo carry classes like veteran.Skitarii are probably pretty good for practicing this, as long as you don't run some arc rifle cheese or transphobic blades crit spam, both of which kind of trivialize the game. Mostly so you can have the skull to do objectives for you, while your 3 shitters are all dead, which they frequently will be. Just make sure you unallocate some of the nodes that make you really tanky, or take off your defensive curios and replace them with something retarded that doesn't help you, like wounds with exp and dockets on them. If you rely on cooldown reduction, keep it, else you'll learn the timings wrong.Rolling Steel is another one that's decent for practicing mechanical skill, because you'll be required to solo the entire mission while your sub-humans take a knee every couple steps and ignore all of the objectives in favor of going down near infinitely spawning reinforcements. It's just the worst mission for practicing kiting, maelstroms are usually better at that. If you want to practice that, play a reasonably fast class, but nothing that is so fast that it's free, so no knife, no scum, no stealth etc.But also just playing the highest havoc available to you, and not worrying too much about climbing or rank, and instead using it as a learning opportunity is a good way to do it. Make it a goal to never die first, and to survive for as long as possible while everyone else is dead. Do it often enough and it won't be stressful anymore, and you'll pull off clutches before you know it, assuming you have enough revive speed or a defensive ability that lets you do that. Some classes will have to resort on damage, like scum with AIDS pistol.
>>576956248talking in circles with retards gets tiring, at least just posting images and not replying to you I know you're seething :)
I don't wanna join in on this but it's pretty obvious this is just one guy talking to himself.I wonder what drives a person to do this.
>>576956441Trying to replace the lack of attention from your father by being mentally deficient shitposting tranny on a north korean basket weaving forum isn't going to your father back.Thank you for proving all the negative stereotypes of your mentally ill kind correct.
>>576951851>Imperial Guardsman>Zealous Priest>Big Ogryn Lad>Psykers both potentially sanctionable and non>Arbitrater with Dog>Store Brand Necromunda Ganger>Skitarii So right now, there's not really much that could be feasably added without complicating something. The core with the OG classes, is that you're not playing Space Marines or Special agents, you're the ground level Imperium people caught up in a growing Civil War in the local Hive City.Like yeah you could add a Space Marine for yucks, but then you have to make it powerful because GW says so. GW already has it's hands in by, against the norm, NOT making cosmetics for the DLC classes, because they didn't make plastic for those cosmetics yet. Even if Fat Shark balances a SM, it still has to be slightly more powerful than an Ogryn, because GW says so, and then you see less Ogryns and more Space Marines because of that.I'll say that Sisters of Battle, much like Slaanesh, is touted mainly because of sexually frustrated coomer nerds that just want more sex appeal in their video games, damned be balance or sense. Sure, a Sister of Battle might be a great idea as a alternative to a Space Marine (you basically have a female one, but without as much GW leering over your shoulder). But again, we come to the problem of her being "Zealot but Better", where a Space Marine would end up as "Ogryn but Better".So therefore>Eldar>Votaan maybe>Ratlingsseem like the best course to both bring something different (or familiar in the Eldar's case), to the game, without having to punt out another class as "x but better".
>>576957593>blah blah blahseethe
>EldarCan't believe I wasted my time reading your essay. Not even worth a (You)
Could the next class be Tertium nobility scions or something, that seems somewhat likely to me with them adding highborns on vox chatter in the last year
>>576894120>leaks a bunch of helldivers 2 contentHe's in for a surprise
>>576958424What would be their gimmick?
>>576958505Augment implants?
>>576958653Right after THE mechanicus class? You know the amount of ass destruction that'd create?Not your brightest idea, anon.
>>576958505Buffing teammates by yelling orders at them like peasants
>>576945504>>576948137This actually makes a modicum of sense. Which is why Fatshart will never do it.
>>576958424Doubtful. It's more likely the next class has something to do with the Deadside radwastes seeing the devs are pushing the story towards outside the Hive. Expeditions being made is a proof of this.So them making some Scanveger class is very possible, especially if the "elite reject elite reject" pattern of DLC classes hold.At this point it can be anything really. But we'll probably start seeing more rumors and actual news around september-october.Also youtubers might start subtly leaking the next class soon since many of them might have access or they hear from the devs.
Let me guess. You need more?
>>576930710It would be best if it had gameplay more like warframe, very nimble. Definitely no 'fall into pit and hang off the side' lol
>>576957661Also making a space marine DLC class would cause fatshark to miss out on sales a lot.Like it's an established pattern at this point that DLC classes will be getting absolutely no cosmetics after they release. We don't know why that is but we know it is a fact.But that lack of cosmetics will be a problem, since the biggest draws of space marines is their massive variablity and customizing them.So fatshark making a marine class would unironically leave a shit ton of money on the table that they most likely will never be able to capitalize on and it'd only piss off marine fans, you know THE BIGGEST customer base of 40k.
>>576961037>actually legitimately considering itYou have to be severely retarded to unironically think space marines are even a possibility.
>>576961208I know they won't be.
>>576960265Scum aren't rejects, they're mercs. The only rejects are the original four classes, guys who were on the Tancred Bastion. Every addition after is just supplementing the warband.
>>576940371>no nigger voices for HIV cum>the darkest skin tone in the whole game is lightskin as fuckThey're genuinely actually racist for this one
you guys keep arguing about classes when all I want is more mapsno i don't want shitty new game mods everyone will abandon after a week and i don't want more classes to play on the same maps i've been playing for years
>>576961629Nobody tell him about the racist bot
>>576961756But no one has abandoned expeditions?
>>576961905That mode had no players in auric by week 2, are you mistaking expeditions for something else?
>no i don't want shitty new game mods everyone will abandon after a week >Playing friendslop without friends
I really can't pick a personality for psyker they all sound cringe to me
>>576947886wait is tagging enemies 24/7 bad?
Just started Darktide. Any tips?
>>576962417have fun :)
>>576962417Put on headphones, listen to the whoosh sound when melee attacks or projectiles are about to hit you. Consider changing your dodge bind away from spacebar. Blocking and dodging are very important. Blocking is 360° around you, as is pushing; blocking is cheaper if you look at the enemy. Melee is mandatory, you must learn it, you won't get to use your gun all game long in the higher difficulties.
>>576962417Dodge, slide dodge, learn to deal with each special and wich one to focus
>>576962417did you ever play vermintide? if not then the number one thing you need to know is to always block, push, and dodge when you are in bad situations
>2 Havocs in a row wipe on the very first engagementYeah, not playing this mode anymore today.
>>576962606>blockI never do that :S
>>576961626Scum aren't rejects but my point is that they fit the "reject crackheads/prisoner" theme darktide has/had going for it.Like if you compare hive scum to the 4 original rejects, scum has much more in common fits thematically better with the rejects than they do with arby or skittle. That is what I mean.I could be entirely wrong about the "elite reject elite reject" pattern entirely, it's not lost on me. The next class can very possibly be a sororitas or even a storm trooper, but we won't know until October.
>>576962818Kind of hard to extrapolate that into a pattern when it hasn't even actually happened twice yet.
>>576962918He's schizophrenic, stop giving him attention.
gee I wonder what Fatshark has been cooking these past 3 months! something great I bet!
next class should be peepee poopoo caca
>>576962918I literally said "if it holds"
>>576962547>>576962573>>576962605>>576962606Ty bros. I like that you play as a bum ass nobody in this game
>>576961629You have to be satisfied with the ooga booga poster boy>>576962818They would have to be comically retarded to do something like Scions
>>576960435yeah I still need a handgun for shooting fart stormers
>>576963507>They would have to be comically retarded to do something like Scions100%, scions/stormtrooper would legit just be veteran+. I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.
>>576960435Less actually. Dual wields are elf coded
>>576964092Hive Scum and skittle confirmed to be eldar.
>>576963750Not only that, acolytes like the players in DT are used specifically so that the much more valuable Scions can be used for other, more important operations.
Look it's simple, we need eldar because we've got no elf in darktide yet, and vermintide had one
>Hi-intensity shock troop gauntlet No Man's Land>It's just endless pox bombers and the mission is just one endless gas chamber
>>576953232>>576951230>>576950765Good art at least
>>576964396constant aoes that drain HP is the laziest modifier
>anons when the patch hits this month and it turns out D is for Devout
will we ever have a healer class
>>576965952We already have three classes that cleanse corruption, two of which provide huge toughness boosts, and two that can revive from afar. One even speeds up the healing per second on medkits. One can self-heal.I doubt we will ever get something that seriously disrupts the limited health economy.
>>576965952ok, balance it :)
just had a really fun auric maelstrom match :)
>>576966639Tell us!
>>576966681it was the one where you have to delivery the ammo at the end with all the fun affixes applied. anyway we had a monstority or 2 probably about every 2 minutes. very intense and fun. i had a good time
>>576964291>>576963750the veteran is basically a stormtrooper just without the hellgun and scholam background. he sure as hell ain't just a regular enlisted guardsman after canonically surviving every mission in the story
>>576966931did i play with you..
>>576964396I hate that it lasts so long too. In ratclick gas rat poison only lasts for about 6 seconds but the pox bombers gas last twice as long for some reason
>>576966931Chasm Logistratum? kinda hate that map
>>576957985Well jackass who else do you ACTUALLY add? The fucking Jokero?
>>576961037>We don't know why that is but we know it is a fact.It's been talked about here plenty of times, it's GW's fault because They only have some models of Arbitrator, Hive Scum, and Skitarii. That's the best we have because there really is zero reason not to make cosmetics for the slop shop when there's new characters now. No Krieg Arbitrator/Scum/Skitarii sets.E V E R Y T H I NG is speculation, because we are NEVER privy to the actual private meetings where people explain whatever actual reasoning they have for the things they decide on in all of gaming.So we speculate to either best logical deduction, or just say "The Libtards/Republicans" and call it a fucking day.
>>576962657Cute Hive Scum Dog.
>>576967073did you? what character were you playing>>576967106yeah it's not my favorite but i almost never play it
>>576968278psyker with electric staff
>>576968474there was a psyker...two arbys an ogryn and a psyker?
>>576968743no it was skibidi psyker ogryn and arbiter.. damn...
Havoc should give more diamantine desu
>>576969245https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47OeMALC9pY
>>576949443Try killing them without your soulblaze/chemtoxin stacks.
>>576951006I, for one, enjoy characters that aren't overweight.
>>576969553>activates crusher>their shields fucking explode>fires new plasma gun>an entire horde of them dies in 3-4 shots>make light attacks with any fast weapon>they drop their shields in a couple swings, making them little more than a temporary roadblock>play a difficulty higher than heresy>the trickle of vanguards is mixed into plenty of elites, and damn near vanishes into the crowd, becoming difficult to actually notice that they existI admit it felt fucking awful using a meme build on psyker, especially with a chain axe, but they really aren't a problem if you have an actual build.I do think they're extremely terrible for the lower difficulties where you can't have a build, and they make up what feels like 20% of enemy HP you have to go through.
>>576969694faggot
what melee weapon and blessings should I use if I want to ignore vanguards while cleaving a horde?
>>576970354The only ones that work are blessings that give infinite cleave (ignore all hitmass), because their shields are considered carapace, which kinda sorta has infinite hitmass (so you must ignore it else it stops your swing).
>>576970534ok I see I'm still kinda new, but what is the difference bewteen hit mass and hit mass given by armor?
>>576971076I don't know, and I suspect it may be a Sw*dish description thing where the ESL dumbfucks are too lazy, inept or retarded to hire someone who>actually understands the game>actually natively speaks Englishso we end up with descriptions that are literally incorrect or basically gibberish.Enemies have different hitmass stats, but I'm not sure how much of that is governed by armor, and how much of that just incidentally lines up with their individual hitmass stats.The big exception I'm aware of is carapace armor, which always stops your swing unless you have a blessing that ignores it, like your pic.Perfect Strike for example is half-decent on the transphobic blades and on the eviscerator. It's not great, it's not meta, and usually not part of what makes a good build, but it will solve your problem exactly the way you imagine it to, so it's not useless or anything.
>>576971405Damn I'll play with those blessings to see what works best I guess, thanks for the answers
why they didn't add the vanguards in the test chamber
I'm having fun in low 20s havoc
>>57697251520-30 havoc is fun
>>576972515I don't even feel anything from anything below h30 anymore
>>576972515ofc you are.you're storking you own ego by carrying sub 30 shitters.It's nice to reaffirm your own superiority once in a while.
>>576970134My issue with them is that they are retardedly tanky for no real reason.Like them having about as much health as a rager while being a horde mob, and then taking reduced damage from headshots.Like just why? Do one or the other, not both.The damage reduction on headshots makes even less sense when you look at rest of the enemies and combat.Darktide's combat is centered around clicking on heads, so making an enemy that is just "fuck you, i have 40% damage reduction for headshots" is just really bizarre.
>>576975351Have you tried crouching and cutting off their pinky toes instead of going for their heads? That's already the strategy in auric, for arbitrator's shotgun against mixed hordes of scab maulers & scab ragers. Their legs can't be carapace so you just crouch and blow up their kneecaps. Ammo inefficient, but absolutely gets the job done.
>>576975923Cops blowing off protectors kneecaps en masse with a shotgun. That's terrifying.
First thing that comes to mind when you see someone with the title "Salvage Lord"
But why?
>>576977710Remembering how I only got the penance because they nerfed the requirements because I got deathly bored by the mode around halfway through.
>>576977783its more fun than giving you a 12.5% static ranged damage buff
>>576978004Fuck you Sven. I'm an idiot for playing this class
WHY SOMETIMES POXBURSTERS DONT MAKE ANY NOISE FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>576979789It's an audio bug that's been around for years. We all hate it
it's good to see that even in vermintide 2 there are shitters that don't understand that rezzing someone who is downed is a smart strategy
>>576980691>goes down>aieeee save me shitters
>>576981043
>we don't need sister of battle, we have sister of battle at home>sister of battle at home:
>>576983434take that coke can out your mouth and put some makeup on
>>576963384It honestly is kind of refreshing to play as nobodies in a way so I get what you mean >>576966950He’s specified to be pretty skilled in at least one or two backgrounds even before this iirc
>>576979789The audio engine breaks down when there's too many enemies spawned, it doesn't prioritize elites and specials over all the poxxers running around.
>>576979789Ironically I think I’ve come across this only a handful of times>>576971405That’s literally what the case is I don’t think it could be anything else at this point
>>576983434take the augment out of face and turn the hair white and yeah pretty much
they need to stop selling skins with this submissive and breedable pose
>>576984936But it's a psyker, their default state is submissive and breedable...?
>>576977783After about ten seconds, you have 30 seconds of 10-25% increased power for free constantly forever. It's awesome. Pyromancer is a class dedicated to gambling: gambling power percentages, gambling with your overheat, gambling with your ult (PLEASE use ult-refunded-on-crit and not temp HP). Bolt staff as ranged, melee as whatever you like.
>>576984936>did I leave the stove on?>oh fuck, I did
>>576964359nice try kerillian>>576975923based strategy
>get pounced by a dog near my team>team keep moving forward>until I dieamazing, and I did tell em in chat and in voice
>>576987897This is the default behavior. Never rely on your teammates, they always suck. I'll also call skill issue, and that's okay, maybe you don't know yet that pushing (including dogs) is 360 degrees around you, you can just reflexively pull out your melee and push when you hear the dog pounce wind-up, it's very very generous and should keep you safe reliably.
>>576987897Should have brought your own friend.
>>576988247they all left Darktide after we hit H40 :,(
I really want the next class to be Sisters of Battle and I'm not being ironic
>>576988357I was implying that the servo skull is the friend.
>>576988213I know you're pretending to be a nigger, but everybody gets pounced at least once becasue of the dog behaviour being completly fucked, when they're not silent. I know your mom really loved her brother and that led to failures like you, but you don't have to make it so obvious online.
>>576988481>getting upset and immediately copingYou're the one exhibiting nigger behavior, chimping out after receiving legitimate advice.
>>576988618Yeah yeah we got it already, you're a retarded nigger, have a good life lol
>>576988412Melee bruiser bolter bitch. Copy-paste Slayer leap but reflavor it as an assault pack.
>>576988670Imagine being this mad because bad lol
>>576988481When that happens my servo skull helps me and I take fuckall corruption from the dog because of ablative wards.
>>576988768Yes sure, you never die, you never get pounced, or netted, you win all your games and you never lose HP, we get it, it's a common behaviour amongst brownoids for south america and mulsim countries :)
>>576988680That'd be really cool actually
>>576988904>having an entire meltdown over shit I never even said or impliedLOL actual unresolved anger issues. Don't punch a hole in the wall, faggot, and take your meds.
ripperguneviscerator
>>576988412>finally get the melta>likely get a full size bolter that doesn't feel like shit to use>get cosmetics that are actually designed to look like a woman for once>get faces that don't look like meth addictsIt'd fix so much that's wrong with the game all at once.
>>576988904Yes, and people who take True Grit or the medicae servo skull are building for failure. Get out of my Havoc
>>576990532>building talents baby boy needs crutches and help lmao
>>576990629oh yeah? I use grey weapons and I NEVER dodge
>>576990728i notice you didn't mention blockinglittle baby needs the no damage cheat or else he dies lmaoo
>>576990819I'm not a baby! IM NOT A BABY IM A GROWN WOMAN WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Christ this thread has been terrible lately, are any of you faggots even old enough to drink?
>>576990960This thread has always been terrible
>>576990960You must be new here.
>>576991003>it was always le badFuck off with that, it's usually not this bad
>>576989253You're talking to a well-known gigashitter. He's famously bad and retarded
>>576990960i don't think anyone who posts in here is ever sober
>>576987897I witnessed a few True Survivors and Poxbreakers will keep killing enemies and ignore everything else including obj. Funny enough, three times with Skittles having no medicae skull, one of those times were me joining midgame and everyone was down by bunch of Reapers beside the TS Skittle, Skittle couldn't res anyone, then downed and screamed "noobs" before he left.I mean if you see nobody is willing to pick you up, just leave and go next. It isnt worth to get upset
>>576990960Yeah but my mom said I can't have any :(
UP IN DA CLUB!
>>576990960Pretty sure there's a fucker in here who has stage 9 terminal autism. And not the good kind.
would it be stupid if fatshark implemented a "prestige/promotion" system in the game for every class? the 4 default classes could get two different skills sets depending of what you choose (veteran could get a commissar or scion tree, zealot sororitas or crusader (genderlocked), ogryn/ psyker i dont fucking know honestly lol), paid classes could get the same treatment as well, arbites could get a marshal rank up, hive scum a proper hive ganger upgrade (augments or extra druggie mode, your choice), skiitari just need extra weapons and an extra skill tree path to make them work better (radium weapon and skills related to it)
>>576994260>would it be stupid if fatshark spent more time making features no one asked for instead of making more maps and weapons?Yes.
>>576994368this promotion system would be a good excuse to bring weapons that the rejects aren't "capable" of using or are too "STRONG" against what we fight against, i keep seeing redditors parroting the shit take that fatshark shouldn't add the meltagun because it isn't necessary against the kind of enemies that we fight, which is fucking retarded
Why can't we be friends and happy in this general
>>576995241>>576995241>>576995241>>576995241>>576995241NEXT
>>576993957There’s a good kind?
>>576990960That's just what this place looks like when you don't use a filter to cut out any SoBtroon posting, and lowercase retards, among a few other severely retarded ritual posters. About one in three posts here is truly abysmal in post quality and content. Not much else to be expected from a frequently discounted game in a genre loved by turd-worlders. I'd be surprised if even half our posters lived in the civilized world.
>>576995171Because when someone says they want sister of battle as a class in darktide there's two or three people who feel the need to spend the next ten hours inventing reasons why it's impossible, and they carry that same drive into everything else they discuss here.
>>576995387Well, knowledgeable at least lmao
>>576995387Yeah the fun, sexy kind. Dark, nihilistic, twisted sense of humor? Right any bells?
