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Alice please you have to accept that you've completely absorbed Agora and he is no longer with us
>>576861678Yeah, SUR and Accuracy etc apply to both hands.Attack lines only apply to the weapon they're on.
>>576861990
>>576861680>>576863059https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tgVwOIKjJA
I have gotten exactly 1 fragment drop in between my last trade-in and current one.
I love mining so much its my favorite part of this event I get so giddy whenever I see an ore vein waiting to be picked by my 'axe.
>>576864245Do you even get anything worthwhile from mining?
is my benis immortal?
>>576864796Yeah you can get 3x FAS if you're super lucky.
>>576864796I've been able to stockpile on Silver Ore I guess, but the idea that I *could* mine a FAS fills me with dopamine with each swing.
Sure is convenient that this dude just keeps spawning here after I've finished nearly all of my relics.
You can't buy enough gold pickaxes to mine all the time so the important thing to do is trade every 3 hours for fragments so you can finish all your deliveries every 20 hours to stock up on as much event currency you can.
>>576866965Do gold pickaxes provide better mining results or is it just less likely to break?
>>5768672763x as much from whatever you roll.
>>576867276they give 3x drops
>>576865170Even just getting a flat ATK stone x3 gets my heart pumping desu.
There’s little reason to actually kill the Tonberry King currently right?
>>576868360Correct. You also can't because they removed him in a bug fix.
>>576868360he drops an accessory
Do pickaxes get used up in dispatch ?
>>576870054They do. You have to restock your dispatches every now and then.
as much as I love farming loot, isn't the ffxi gear just around mid silver tier? I saw some criticism on jp twitter posts but maybe that person is simply used to the allure of premium gear?
>>576871858It's normal silver, by which I mean it lacks the unique variants like chainmail and the like. Nothing really wrong with it. If I really wanted to complain I would have preferred it be weighted more toward armor than the loads of weapons it is.
>>576872192no I mean the relic gear saw someone post how ragnarok was less damage than his purple +15 or so silver greataxe
>>5768724144* red is always good. I have around 4 greatswords already so I probably won't bother with Ragnarok myself. The only one I'm interested in is the bow.
>get random chest bone today, only 3 days after the last one I gotWhat the fuck this has never happened, I thought it was minimum 5 days
>>576872414Axes are better weapons than 2h swords, inherently, so that's not wildly surprising. It's still a very nice weapon though. Red 4* silver with good to great blessings and some bonus skills makes all of them pretty good.
I would also add that this event is also just great for extraction fodder and general silver equipment.I'm having more fun farming this event and getting more junk in general compared to say Alabaster, even if the junk I get from there is moreso ideal for what I want out of my equipment.
are ninjato any decent? didnt they get better with kageros release
wew
>>576874752They're pretty good now, yeah.Ninjas using them want to invest hard in Evasion since their attack power now scales off Attack and half of evasion.
>>576874752Better than dual wield standard weapons, worse than hairpin or raven dagger
>>576875078can their output compare to an ess fighter? im pretty geared up and i wanted to try frontliner kagero or kiriha
>>576874752You can use them, they aren't the brick people pretend but the whole gimmick of ninja crits is much more effective when you take twice as many chances to do it so...
what makes it so you move "faster" through a given map? I've noticed in floors 1 to 4 I am about 50% faster in traversing than floor 5 for some reason.am i just hallucinating?
What is preferable: A 5 star white or a Red 1 star with at least 2 good lines?
>>576875278Ninja's biggest issue still remains that they don't have a great single target skill, and the Ninjato buff doesn't change that without inherits, and even then ESS is unmatched in terms of efficiency.
>no unique animations for the Relic WeaponskillsNyo...>>576875762Gacha equipment? Do you have enough to go beyond +10?Enough to take it to +20?If you're not crazy short on resources, you could take both to +10 and see what lines the white rolls.
>>576875287That's probably just your device choking, floor 5 has a ton of mobs. I don't notice any difference on PC.
>>576873883Alabaster is just tuned so low that it's pure shit to farm. Shit chest drop rates, shit token drop rates, shit junk drop rates, and the junk has even shittier equipment drop rates for the only decent pieces in there.
Got nothing from the login bonuses. Still have the selector, which would be better, D4 Prishe or D3 Zeid?
>>576878339Discipline gives a big jump at multiples of 3
>>576877069I'm playing on PC too, it's not a 5k rig but its not bad by any means. It's not even graphical lag - just feels I walk faster through some zones compared to others. Who knows, Wizardry magic.
benis
>>576878712on pc, if i run using auto-run to a mark/chest, it feels like it always move faster.
is it possible to have sex with a boat?
>>576880479Yes, of course. Otherwise kancolle and azurlane wouldn't exist. Go gettem gwo.
I make Zeid carry all my pickaxes so he remembers his place as a filthy g*lka
Miqo'te when
holy shit what lvl is that boss for the bird soup quest to save Pickle? Think I'm gonna have to come back later.
>>576884794The were all processed into onaholes by cultured nobles already.
>With you, it's over in an instant.B-benis... don't embarrass me in front of the others...
>>576885456Would you rather be called a virgin by bibi?
Phantasy Star collab please
>>576885710I would roll so fucking hard for Nei or Rika or Elenor or Shino. Not really for Alis though.
>>576885710>Phantasy Star>Monster Hunter>Granblue>Dragon Quest>TalesI hope one of these is next. This event was really well done besides the relic grinding
question about the collab dungeonif i thought grinding out 10k points for B&B shop weapons was cancer, how bad is the relic grind
>>576886593You're right, a week tops grind in a ~40 day event in a grinding game is embarrassing, it should have taken a month straight for just ONE relic
>new player>get 1x attestations per NMI dont think I want to do 45 of these.
>>576887210There's plenty of time to go through Abyss 2 and come back, I don't know if any newfags got up through Abyss 3 Good End and/or Copper Exam or whatever it takes to unlock 5x Attest/Frags though
>>576887210can new players even farm fragments?
>>576885254Don't worry about it. JD still hasn't written anything to the plot that is affected by those two dying.
>>576887392I'm a newfag who has given more time to this game than I expect most would, but I'm sitting at level 50 at the moment. I was stupid and fed all my nameless adventurers to my legendaries for +1 attack or whatever and now I am starved for tags. I could grade up MC and someone else in my party but since the event scales to MC's grade that would instantly put 4 members of my party behind on level until I can scrape together more tags no matter how hard I grind.
>>576886593I like the relics, the grind really isn't bad at all compared to some of the old events and dungeons and the reward is more than worth it.
>>576888821have you run the mausoleum yet? a lot of the generic named can be turned into tags or bondmates if you don't plan on using them
>>576886920Unlike the BnB event there is a clear method to grinding beyond lol open chests. You just kill two specfic spawns on floor 5 over and over and they have a high chance to drop the materials. Then you just trade them for what you need. Depending on how strong you are, you can get the relic grind done pretty fast. I think one dude did the full set in like 5 hours? That's a bit fast but even playing slowly doing one weapon a night isn't hard. Really the actual limiting factor is the cooldown for trading.
>>576888821Yeah that's what I feared, I think you'd have to have gone with a starter account in order to have the tags, it's the biggest timegate / roadblock to progression
How do you stop grudge attack?
>>576889253Sleep, spell bind, or just using ranged weapons to not trigger it.
>1 in 1300 chance to get a decent cesti (4* blue)>and that is before considering the blessings it rollsI'm not gonna make it. But I will gamble with what I have.>>576889253Ninja's voice steal. Dino's Montino. Binding scroll from the shop.Voice steal blocks it for multiple turns, spellbind gets cured after the first failed grudge attempt.
>>576889315>ranged weapons to not trigger it.Oh that is good to know. I can Rangermax.
>>576889404Just get lucky gwo>tfw this was the first incesti I got
>>576889017I'm just not at a point where I'm comfortable dismissing named adventurers yet. Pushing skills up is worth more to me than waiting on weekly reset and getting let down by bone reversals.
>>576890075You are much better off eating general adventures to get your team up to speed than you are inheriting, I'd keep the ones with extra skills but otherwise get that grill going. There are plenty of them that you wouldn't really care about inheriting anyway.
>>576889591I got the reverse of what I wanted, but it is a pretty good 3* purple.And a heavy armor that I can turn into double aspd or aspd+surety.
>>576889591I got a 3* purple ASPD ATK DIVdo I alter a third ATK line? considering multihit and all
>>576890797Yeah, that's probably the play unless you want to grind more.
>>576890953I'm still only 3 relics out of 7 done so plenty of grinding left. and I'll prob keep on farming after to mine. The quantity of junk to farm general silver stuff or just break down gear is insane that going back to Alabaster makes me wanna alt f4 irl
>>576890797Yes, then if it rolls poorly, you can alter to surety.>altered to 5 attack>natural attack slot got +9 on enhance>altered attack slot got +3 on enhance
>>576888821whenever a newfag asks for advice when starting out, someone inevitably mentions buying a starter account specifically to avoid being timegated by tags. genuinely baffled that you missed the memo somehow.
>>576891386Buying accounts is gay and I can't believe the fag who is trying to advertise his "service" here is still trying to trick newbies into it.
>>576891186Yeah thats a fair point, you can realistically get 10 SUR just alter+refining without the enhance bonus
>>576891605it's not early 2010s anymore uncif you are serious about commiting to a long running gacha game it's expected to buy a starter accountthe only people that truly seethes about starter accounts are young people with no access to their own credit card
>>576891895The fuck it is. Only thirdies do that. Everyone else either does a resemara or just rolls with what they pull.
>>576891186How are you getting so many fists?
>>576892070resemara is also a product of the times unc...you only do that on the first few months of a game release AND you have time to burn for doing 10 minute reroll runs.literally only third worlders, young people or poorfag NEETs do that for themselves instead of paying chump change to outsource that shit
>>576892198The event drops a lot of fey junk, after that it's just RNG.
>>576892070NTA but only japs and poorfag SEApags reroll. This is known.Normal people either just play with what they get or buy a starter.
>>576892270Account selling is all third worlders selling to other third worlders. What are you smoking? It's always been that way, it's not even a new thing so your argument of "muh times" holds no weight. You can find account selling going back to korean MMOs gwo.
>>576892198I ended up with about 30 cesti after extracting about 1000 junk between the three tiers. You can also buy them from the shop.
>>576892457so why are you triggered over account starters if you've been around since korean MMOs?i don't get it especially for a fucking single player gacha. the fuck you gatekeeping for?
buying a starter account is the most soulless thing you can do especially since the game's difficulty is mostly based on knowledge/skill and not your characters.
Decisions, decisions.
>>576892717Because I can't fucking stand fags trying to profit off newbies. Go pick some rice or weed or whatever you do in your third world shithole instead of ebegging.
its so insanely fair and easy to max out the exchange shop and endlessly farm pickaxes/fey junkonly thing that you need to do is farm with some controlled RNG I'm surprised anyone is complaining about this
>>576892717He's mad because he's too retarded to leave his mom's basement but not retarded enough to qualify for NEETbux and afford a starter account.
The classic thirdie fallback of "y-you're poor" when someone doesn't fall for or calls out your scam. Name a more iconic combo. Sasuga.
>>576892198you can buy them at the shop but you will probably get the 27+ trying to find a decent oneI only have 1-3* green / white so far
>>576893282nta but the more you post the more it seems like you are exactly what he said
>>576892994Yeah this is far and away the best 'cave' we ever got.>>576892892>hey you should probably drop $7 for THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS of in-game currency and items then completely ignore the gacha for the rest of your life and enjoy the game as if it wasn't there>fuck off chinaman! you can't fool me into paying that much for an experience that far surpasses a $70 single player game! now excuse me while a jew rapes me in every other aspect of life
>1 year later the chinamen you bought the account off reports his account as "stolen" and you lose everything
jeweler is running overtime on /wizg/ so he can trick hapless newbies into buying his bundles
>>576893649You're brown
i have mined for 3 days straightLFAS/FAS from mining don't realyou're all participants in a conspiracy to trick me on behalf of Big Pickaxe
>>576895775I got some LAS stones but no one gives a shit about those. FAS are the only prize that matters.
I just slay the enemy. That's all.
The browns and poors are fighting again.
>>576895565You just know
Just stopping by this thread after I heard this game had an XI crossover.Wondering why nobody has Antialiasing enabled in any of their screenshots, what's the deal?
>>576897396The Steam version uses an obnoxious anti-cheat that resists any attempt to refine the graphics beyond the meagre settings the game has, the only way to make it sharp is to fake a higher resolution in Windows but since it likely fucks everything else you're running up, nobody does it
>>576897396sometimes people forget to alt+enter x2 and also the game kinda just naturally looks like that
Gentlemen, how do we make Thieves useful beyond A3?
>>576898013More junk drops passivelyClass saved
>>576898013Give them an actually fucking useful attack instead of doubling down on status moves that bosses are immune to. That's literally it. Let them do decent damage, not even BiS damage, just decent. Maybe give them accuracy or speed scaling too.
>>57689801350% chance to conserve items when usedfree actions for item usageQuick HitQuadrastrikeGuaranteed evasionPhys AOEChance to have a free action after normal attack.Hyper poison that applies all ailments
>>576898013extra junk dropsauto chest open passivesur res shred
please JD, I need the bibi alt
>>576898013funnily enough FFXI has the solution>Trick attackdeals extra damage when behind an ally all aggro is redirected to the tricked allyPut thief in backrow behind a Knight and suddenly we solved problems for 2 classes.If you want to dig more into the knife archetype, give thief coatings with niche statuses similiar to Samurai imbues
>>576899989Knigger's issue is SP, it's otherwise fine. Thief being an SP battery would be far more useful for a knigger than another taunt skill would.
z5 8demons not dropping fragments whats up wirh that?
>>576899989>give thief coatings with niche statusesNo. Fuck off. Status effects don't fucking land on bosses. Stop trying to make status thief a thing. It doesn't fucking work.>>576900121RNG is RNG. Sometimes you have a dry streak, assuming you are high enough rank to have them drop.
>>576900121If you haven't progressed far enough in the main story, they won't drop, to avoid letting players in Abyss 2 have what is basically a weapon tuned to take on Abyss 5Unless you mean you're just unlucky, RNG streaks happen
>>576900251>high enough rank Don't tell me I'm getting cucked by not having the copper exam done
>>576900318Bingo
>>576900318you are, sadly. Sorry you had to find out this way
>>576900318This is why people said to eat adventurers for tags. At the very least get your MC uncapped. Shit doesn't scale too crazy here.
>>576900536detect increase for chest is kinda a pain in the ass when jumping exams
After coming back after playing for a bit on launch I have to ask, does the party know that we're turning back time or do they only know about the MC reviving people? It seems like total torture to have this band of people who love you dearly and trust you with their lives but still can't comprehend how much you're REALLY suffering.
>>576900414>>576900443>>576900536my reputation is too lowI don't even have the option to take the copper exam
>>576901214it's probably like picrel
>10 attestations for ONE fragmentlmao this game
>>576901214I think they do?When you first time loop, there's a bit where the game comments about how plot items and party members seem to be limited and are brought along the loops with you.
>>5769022904-5 days until next event phasepeople need to calm down with the autismo farming and just wait til then.
>>576902290Frags have a higher drop rate once they start dropping and you get 5 of either. You really are better off pushing the abyss so you can get your rank up and just farm them directly.
>>576902290That trade exists just to fuck over people who misclicked when exchanging frags.
>>576903498It exists to give newfags who can't get frag drops yet a way to get them, it's really inefficient of course, but it exists.
>>576903364I did have some drop already but they've been extremely rare.I guess I could try to beat A3 again...
>>576903690Outside of the gambler fight the 2nd run really isn't bad at all. Just remember, you don't need to avoid ALL the sentries, just enough to keep the shit you need alive alive.
>die>game over>stone>game over>stone from statue >not game over??¿?????????????I guess this beats the "party members die when you die " theory like with luluSo they just ditch our ass as soon as we bite it, not even taking us to the temple let alone casting relinkus
>>576904651The statue didn't kill you so you don't die. You only die when you are killed.
>>576904772You don't have 0hp on petrification either
>>576904873The gorgon killed you so you died.
Does the shadownigga get more HP each time you kill him? I'm grinding out the bondmates and I swear each kill is taking slightly longer. Like not overly much and he is still pretty easy, but still.
>Do wheel tricks to save Bonnie and Clyde>Beat them in the arena(holy shit what an annoying fight)>Fight ends with them alive>I'm expecting a good ending>They literally blow themselves upwell I wasn't expecting that...
>>576905921There is no better ending than a romantic death.
chances of getting a clussy character?do 40 year old salarymen like this archetype?
>>576907479Does she throw bombs?
>>576907479Probably not in this game, I think your best bet is maybe a clussy goddess/deity
>>576907479clussy in an ewhore way is hard, but maybe a court jester might work
Why is no one talking about the 3f into 4f entry treasure run in the collan? It's like the Ship treasure farm except faster and you can mine and the junk is infinitely better. Relic weapons are bait.
>Got a terrible +3 atk / +3 acc / +1 aspd enhancement on my bow after a bad FAS roll>Grind for days to get the materials for a remake>+3 atk / +3 acc / +2 aspdI know I asked before, but are we sure that these are silver weapons?
>>576909043Because there is no point to doing it while you have relic weapons to farm since you get plenty of junk that way. It's great afterward for more though. >>576909252Congrats, you just have really shit luck.
>>576909043the runs are too short and it's too high effort for my tastes when I want just to relax and mash space occasionally.
every once in a while i just lose the ability to use the Cancel function (Esc/RMB/Backspace) and have to click on the X buttons to back out of menus. it's pretty gay. is there a way to fix it without restarting the game
>>576912039You have to restart the game. Just never use the "manage all" menu for equipment.
why are there no western tier lists?
>>576914196This isn't really a tier list game.
>>576914323>this isn't really a tier lsit game.>you're bricked if you don't roll for Yuzunamikiyou can't have both
>>576876398>Ninja's biggest issue still remains that they don't have a great single target skillJust give them DTS
>>576914196because it's not popular enough.>>576914323it's a gacha and all legendary characters have different skills, of course you can make a tier list just divide it in support/dps/survival/whatever categories.
>>576914381Yuzu is mediocre as fuck if you don't also have her pin, to the point larping as a ranger is better than trying to cope with farmable kunai(at which point she is about on part with the other offerings from the class). Frankly she has been getting less and less stand out as time goes on. Still good of course but it's not like she is the only character who deals damage.
>>576914323>This isn't really a tier list game.Yeah gwo, not a tier list game, just everyone runs exact same team for no apparent reason>>576914778>Yuzu is mediocre as fucklollmao evengachafags as always will ignore the elephant in the room that it's a gacha and balanced as gacha kusoge
2nd CC when so I can have ninjer Bibi?
Can't wait for a wind legendary mage, i want to dump my FERU and MAFERU inherits on somebody...
>>576915402If people were sticking strictly to meta all you would see is a comp of benis alter(or shiou alter or prishe)/rinne alter/samMC anemone(or a ranger/ninja when farming)/yuzu(w/pin)/flex(either alice or a knigger or a ranger/ninja). That is not a common party.
>>576915402It's their first experience with gacha and they're still in the not like the other girls phase even when we're close to the 2nd anni.
>>576916679>That is not a common party.No kidding. A full party of squishies without whale inherits is going to get deleted by most bosses.
>>576916679>benisShe is strong fighter, but still is fighter. Not as meta as meta gapping every other dps as Yuzu. Good for auto farming party though.>shiou alterBrick>prisheMajority is still farming for cesti+she is not auto party character(as Shiou too, but Shiou is just brick) so you will see her only in superboss/story boss screenshots>rinne alterInherit>samMCSure, but most are fighters for obvious reasons>anemoneToo high cost both in grinding and inheriting over sticking to Alice that still T0 with investments>That is not a common partyOf course, because you listed shit for superwhales, in bad faith.
>>576876398Covert Strike can hit pretty hard with them but being stuck at lv1 concealment makes it hard to stay hidden.
>>576917721>>576917996You said meta, I listed meta. People don't run yek or lana or literally any thief or whatever other 2nd or 3rd tier character because they are meta. Most people are running characters they like or have been using since launch because outside of whale super bosses as long as the basics are covered you can run whatever.
>>576917721>no AshaThis dude doesn't want his debuffs to actually land, apparently
>>576919401The meta is uberstacking buffs, not debuffing. That's why everyone carries a fat stack of scrolls to buff up and ate a few alices.
Will there be anywhere else to farm fist after collab?
>>576919401Witching Asha is a meme. Her debuff rate increase is barely noticeable. Alice can apply any batilgref you need, and any class with a wand/staff can apply katino.
>>576919848Eventually when monk(or whatever ends up getting fist access) is added you can assume there will be. Anyone's guess how long that will take though.
my Shiou hits like a wet noodle. do I just keep farming random shit until i see a katana? the shop one doesn't cut it lol
>>576922038Use the relic katanya, level bamboo to 3+, make sure she uses the right elemental buff.
>>576905868I think he has HP Bars or “circuit breakers” or whatever you want to call it and won’t die until he uses Implosion.
>>576922929Definitely, it just feels like how much damage it takes to trigger it is slowly increasing. Not like it matters much since he isn't a real threat I guess.
>>576920030I’d assume Monk is getting added for the 2nd Anniversary given how complete Prishe is with a new weapon type and animations.
>>576905868It honestly feels like has a different hp pool for each immunity. Like none of the magic damage I do seems to count.
>>576923045I wasn’t exactly keeping count, but it did seem kind of random to me how long it would take while I was farming the 10 additional kills for the bondmates.Some times he’d immediately got into physical immunity mode after getting slapped once, other times he’d need nearly two full rounds.
I didnt change the evade line on my ragnarok and now I'm not sure if I should bother remaking it or just enjoy a fatass evasion line on it. 35+ evade vs probably ~12 surety
I like Kagero
>>576878712That's actually a game mechanic, unlocking greater harken makes your character faster
I have noticed that the allies's voiceline when you perform an instant kill have been applied to normal surety and kill as well. Coomers are RUINING the game.
>>576924771Shit went bananas when i tried Ninja whit Raven dagger+ knife, EVERYONE cheered, making an absolute earrape.
From the collab scrolls I got Adam (for inherits) and Gerulf IV STR (for dispatches).
>>576924968Why not Gerulf (for your party)?
>>576924771Yeah they changed that. Now all sure hits trigger the crit voice lines. Which is insane because my MC is built for surety.
What's the best minimum skillbook investment for Prishe? Right now I'm looking at just Impetus 3 and Asuran Fists 3, not sure if anything else is worth it.
>>576924771Goodchads claim another victory.
>>576925048He is a dwarf.
>>576925526Got something against Dwarves?
>>576925353Booking over HA3 or some other generic move to use in your off turns is nice.
>>576925437>So daring! A real hero!
>>576925353Gwo your Hundred Fists 3???
>>576925634Yeah, they're slow.
dwarves confirmed lasting longest in bed
>>576926892That's one of Yrsa's charm points.
What's the prefered skill order with prishe?
Is mausoleum resetting in 2.5 hours or another week, I forgor
>>576927192It reset 22 hours ago bricked warped one
Is it worth fighting the packs of 3 Tonberry? It doesn't seem to drop more than just fighting one and it's 3x the hate.
>>576927629>Is it worth fighting the packs of 3 Tonberry?Not really. You get the same necropsyches, you waste more resources and make the Grudge stronger.
>>576927119Just alternate Astral Break and Asuran Fists. We're not doing actual FFXI skillchains here.
>>576927992I don't have astral break for her
>>576929268Start saving for adventuerer bones 3 then
>>576927992This will be monk mc
>>576929489I've actually never pulled Arboris despite trying a few times he's been up. I'd like astral on a few units
Astral Break is overrated
>>576901214They see you come back each times you die yeah.
>>576901214Yeah they know. They're part of the cycle.
>>576901214They know your deal, and also don't. They don't remember the dead ends you go to but the sort of vague sense of trust they have in you as well as the power they gained on the other timelines come back with you and go to them.
>>576909252>my unFAS'd unrefined bowsorry anon
>>576930854Linlov
>>576927992She doesn't have the SP to really do that. alt rinne's skill is the better premium inherit. That or first arrow.
>>576931647>>576930854
It just werks
What start ranges are you aiming for with relic weapon?20s?
https://x.com/shonopapan/status/2086383544587469287
>>576930114>>576930545>>576930750Evil characters gritting their teeth and trying to play it cool like they're not stuck helping a time janny instead of carrying out their goals
Oh boy time to wait 9 hours for my next relic to finish...!
>>576933493Helping the time janny helps spread the word of agora.
>>576931647>>576932337best girl
>>576933493Rinne goals? Kill shit have funKiriha goals? My goalsLinaria goals? My dick and my coinpurse Savia goals? Belly rubs.. I provide those
>>576933850Yuzu's goals?
>>576933928Benchwarmer while I fit in my nigga Zeid
>>576933928Being a prostitute.
>>576934149Based as fuck
It might help someone so here it goes.After many days of grief I finally got the event to drop me silver junk and 5x amounts of attestations/fragments. Silver being available* seems directly* related to your grade but it's still tied to your "progress" which you could think is just progressing through abysses but it's actually just amount of lanterns you have, meaning for some it might be easier to just do the extra sidequest to get luck ones or the perfect endings to quickly get to next tier of rewards, instead of just finishing whatever abyss they are currently on.
i know that realistically you only need 3 frag/attestation drops per 3 hoursbut holy fuck it feels bad going 1/10 off the 8 demoniggas
>>576936543Yeah, my thoughts are it's basically a point system.Grades give X points.Lanterns give Y points.Unique Cursed Wheel spots give Z points.Quests may give A points.Add them all up and that determines what your dailies/weekly gives and what collab junk you get.Going back and collecting A2 lanterns bumped my Isberk gold daily from 50k to 55k a few months back.
>Kill pain in the ass Black Mage NM>Get a fucking potion from the chest
Oh shitI just need 7 more dupes and will probably settle on +15
>>576937626I got both Ankh and Bracelet at 4star, hoping to get them both at +20 before the event endsaw on Reddit (yes i know) a 5star red dropped, that would have been nice
>>576937884I had 1* white both ankh and bracelet before, but i'm huge lucklet so used to not get good shitThis one is nice, even though master ring is much better for samuraisIs it known how much it gives atk, and does atk buff stack every hit, or it just updates?
Alright! After like a 2 month break I came back, loving the event, so I rolled and managed to toll 3 Prishes, they are:>5 BP no boon (is it speed if hidden?)>7 BP Dex (this was the selector, does it have stat demerits?)>8 BP PieWhich one should I pick?
no, rinne, I will not build you after a mediocre alt and an invested base with a vit boon
https://x.com/taMa_mi0124/status/2086435300344246495kek
>>576933928Ninjas don't have goals, only the mission.
>>576938843Her mission is to steal my seed and rear a child born from our union.
>>576938568>(is it speed if hidden?)50/50 either speed or nothing>does it have stat demeritssavor the riskLevel all of them to lvl20, and check which has highest str growth>>576938206>Is it known how much it gives atk, and does atk buff stack every hit, or it just updates?Apparently, it's bugged and not working at all
>>576938745While I salute the willingness to experiment, this poor guy doesn't realize we have data miners.
>>576938568I would level the no boon to 20 to determine if it's hidden speed or hidden IQ.
>>576938745> Estimate: 1/1/2/2/2/2/3 Wow. He nailed it. That is actually what it is.
have these ever been available to obtain or are they cut content?
The passive skills that increase stats are always garbage like priest weaponIt's so they can stack with future powercreep inherits.Surety is best on shiou gacha gear i think
>>576939131>Apparently, it's bugged and not working at allsasuga drecum
>>576939151>>576939593kwos where is this secret knowledge in non-moon?>>576937626Is this NM drop?
>>576940721Nope they don't exist yet.
>>576942832A lot of them are herehttps://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/mechanics/passive-skills/
>>576933928Falling in love with her lord (me) and giving me lots of kisses
>cleared floor 5 while farming>see a mine in the corner>go for it>NM suddenly pop out right to it AAAAAAAAAAAAADON'T SCARE ME LIKE THAT!
Am I able to farm the unique equips you get directly from beating the A2 GWO or are they part of the 1 per month group?
floor 5 seems to have 3 NMs that can respawn todayleft and right one way rooms, and bottom right room
>>576936543>>576936892Adding on for anyone trying to rush progress for farming, be a bit wary of doing so if you had just prior hit a new threshold and aren't prepared. I went back and cleaned up the missing lanterns from A2, which made the enemies in the FFXI dungeon jump up to the next tier of levels (the level of goblins and tonberrys in the first zone had their level increased from high 50s/low 60s to 68, one of the NMs from 68 or so to 73) without increasing their drop amounts (still 4, both attestations and fragments). For reference, the MC was and is still just steel grade/level 60, and A3 hasn't been cleared yet, but progress in A3 had managed to push my rewards from 3 (only attestations) to 4 (attestations + fragments).
What exactly is the bonus for matching elements with bondmates? Like is it 1.0001x efficacy so just pick stats you want without caring or is is like 2x so you're stupid to put the wrong element?
>>576870114is there an easy way to do this? I thought about it but don't you have to edit them all into your team to give them picks?
>>576945826there is no matching element bonus
>>576945826Bondmate system is half baked, the element and the title (rival, etc) doesn't do anything
I need to reset grudge! Please help!
Can all the good types of junk drop from floor 1 of the collab dungeon? I want to be lazy and just autofarm it today absentmindedly without getting ganked by a tonberry, but I also want more Odachis and 4* purples
>>576945951There is no way to re-dispatch with enough picks (can use 12 or more in a single dispatch).>don't redispatch>go to dispatch menu, reselect the 6 you need>long click one of them in the party>inventory ->item list -> consumables -> pickaxe>add pickaxes from that screen>X out using the menu buttons, not right-click>dispatch
My cute brown meathead wife and our cute brown meathead daughter
debating on what to alter on the shieldI've seen people suggest the EVA in place of DEF but with Aegis giving a massive MDEF boost wouldn't removing the MDEF% for DEF be the better choice?>i know we say evasion is a meme butgetting some 20-25 extra MDEF to reduce the damage of a spell by 10 points if its the same formula vs potentially high rolling 30-35 Evasion?also Savia and Debra memes
>>576947968Someone was saying DEF was dumb because of how easily you hit skill softcaps with just silver armorYou could say the same about any stat outside EVA SUR and ASPD really
>>576947968To be honest I'm probably gonna leave it as is, I don't use shields often enough that I feel like minmaxxing it is worth the resources. I'm probably am not even gonna level it for a while.
>>576947968With Savia if you're trying to dodge you're using a spear, even with her alt style and if you're just trying to tank damage that can't be dodged you use a shield and most of the damage that can't be dodged is magick so maximizing MDEF is the play.
>>5769479681) This shield has negative eva base stat2) Two eva lines is not enough for evamaxxing>vs potentially high rolling 30-35 EvasionIt's 0 chance to evade because formula straight up diff between accuracy and evasion. If enemy has 500 accuracy, anything below 505 evasion will be same as 0 evasion
I've been looking at the relics from FFXI. We are still missing a few weapon types so maybe we are going to get them with the second part of the dungeon: - Spharai [hand-to-hand) - (cesti) - Guttler [axe] - (1H axe) - Bravura [great axe] - (2H axe) - Gungnir [polearm] - (spear) - Kikoku [katana] - (odachi) - Mjollnir [club] - (1H/2H mace)I don't think they are going to implement these: - Apocalypse [scythe] - Annihilator [gun] - Gjallarhorn [instrument]
>>576947968resistanceGODS... RISE
>>576949556>maybe we are going to get them with the second part of the dungeonSoft confirmed. The notice about that shop has the weapons as featured and from day 1 said it would update on the day of part 2. The shop has updated since then for things like extra bones, so the announced update really seems like it would be more featured stuff AKA relic weapons>I don't think they are going to implement theseGun and instrument have no shot, as neat as it was to see Ulmia use BRD moves, but I have some hope for scythe as just a uniquely modeled 2H axe, maybe a 2H blunt even though it's kinda silly just to not double dip on weapon types. Also, Kikou is the Ninja weapon, so it'd be a Ninjato
I really wish they had added the FF11 music/sfx as a reward for completing the missions. It's all very good and nostalgic I'll be sad when the menu sfx leave especially.
How do you get more GIL?
>>576949237I wasn't aware of>If enemy has 500 accuracy, anything below 505 evasion will be same as 0 evasionso that's a good point>>576949925you might be cooking gwomy point is your knight is the one hardly dying to magic damage if anything so out of all that feels the weakest line to menot like I have 6 FAS lying around so I won't worry it for now and even if I did the shield would be the last one, but thanks for the input
>>576950878Trade mostly. You can also get gil from random chests and the collab mission.
>>576949556>Kikoku [katana] - (odachi)Kikoku is literally a kunai gwo.
>>576950947>you might be cooking gwoDon't fall for resistance either, it's shit and barely works past your existing base stat resistance we already have by lvl70Both eva and res formulas were meant to work in first abyss, but JD never tried to think do they work at higher levels. Maybe one day they will rework them, maybe one day...
>>576947968if you want to eva, you should use a different shield that already has 1-2 natural eva lines and another you can alterI did def on mine but more mdef or maybe aspd could be usefuleither way, altering the eva is the right choice
>>576951537Lmao. The wiki says katana but it looks like a kunai.
>>576952080maybe its a ninjato
>>576949556>Apocalypse [scythe]since they implemented Cesti specifically for this collab there is a world where they make this a polearm so that Iroha can wield it as well
>>576952080That's because in FFXI Katanas are 1 handed weapons exclusive to the Ninja Job while Samurai uses what's called a Great Katana, 2 handed.
>>576947968I'd actually remove DEF% for MDEF if anything. The point of Aegis is to say fuck you to magic damage.
>>576949556>they implement cesti>it's better than godhandsImagine the whale seetheI doubt they will add weapons because same logic applies to spears
>>576952234>since they implemented Cesti specifically for this collabLets be real, they let her have them first but Monk as a regular ass class is coming in october
>>576951540This is why I can’t take this game too seriouslyWho pushes out a half baked defense system like this that scales so poorly?
>>576952540In XI, Samurai and Warior could use Spears but the fancy ones like Gungnir and Trishula were Dragoon exclusive so all they have to do is make it more appealing to Savia than Iroha and nobody's mad about that. Prishe whales doomed to be mad though, you're right about that.
>>576953820It works fine with skills and spells involved but that's pretty poor turn economy by most standards. I'm still having Savia dodge everything for me no stress, but I'm also using Dilto, Masolotu, and black beast feint all together. and those 3 turns for most people are 3 turns you could have been doing damage to kill the enemy before they swing on you. Plus most people aren't leveling those skills either which you eventually have to do. I just really like Savia so I'm invested the gimmick.
More speculation from someone who doesn't play FFXI and it' reading the wiki. I'm not gonna write "Major physical/spell attack with high accuracy" in every ability.>Spharai [hand-to-hand) - (cesti)Final Heaven: Inflicts Skill-binding / Spell-bindingPassive: Counter-attack>Guttler [axe] - (1H axe)Onslaught: Reduces enemy attack and increases user attackPassive: Damage over time>Bravura [great axe] - (2H axe)Metatron torment: Reduces enemy defense and increases user defensePassive: Decreases enemy evasion>Apocalypse [scythe] (spear ?????)Catastrophe: Increases user action speedPassive: Reduces enemy accuracy>Gungnir [polearm] - (spear)Geirskogul: Inflicts StunPassive: Reduces enemy defense>Kikoku [katana] - (ninjato)Blade: Metsu: Skill-Binding / Spell-BindingPassive: Inflicts Paralysis>Mjollnir [club] - (1H mace)Randgrith: Reduces enemy evasionPassive: Restores MP over timeThe ones we are not getting:>Annihilator [gun]>Gjallarhorn [instrument]
>>576949925You know wat, i might steal this, since i was planning to give Aegis to Red Beard Knight for Morgussy
>beat 1-3 floors 3 times because I didn't know you can set your choices on the curse wheelIt's like Steins' Gate but Mayushi is a midget elf
>>576958503Remember to kill the two ent-butchers
Came back to the game to try the collab, how do you actually enter the Castle? I swear I've talked to every NPC in this village.
>>576960536it should appear on the world map after you visit the village
>>576876552why bother? It's going to get replaced/become useless in 2 months anyways.
>>576960536Give the goblin a potion.
>>576887392should be ez for newfags if they have yuzu, edgelord, and zeid.
I gave everyone on dispatch a gold pickaxe and no one used it.Do only specific classes use it?
>>576893649>account seller fag going full shilling(autismo) ever since tapGODS been laid to reset >new collab is here and thinks he can finally make a profit(won't) from newfags, but is met with anons calling him out and starts sperging out instead. The absolute state of this board...
>>576964158Sadly, they only use normal pickaxes.
>>5769589512 hard for a lvl20 party
>>576916679way to out yourself, fag.
>>576964661Tapjoy is still around. I'm just too lazy to try those surveys apps that each promise 600 org but have no goal listed.And I don't have the time for any of the 30day 4Xmmo games
I kinda like how every gacha pull feels meaningful. Even if I get shit, I can use them for tags or inherits.
>>576892070Risemara was only worth doing the first month or so when they gave you apologems now you don't even get ten rolls. I would never buy an account myself but I can absolutely see why it's popular since Drecom are greedy bastards.Either way the progress block is your own fault for being dumb and deleting characters while you're new, best option is always to save everything until you're more familiar with the game.
>>576967015Yeah that's something that drives me nuts about other games. Like why would you purposely include something players don't want and can't use?I see these mobile ads occasionally that try to walk players through what they should do starting out and they say something like "Don't pick <weak thing> that's for noobs, you should pick <shiny new thing they're currently promoting>". Then why the fuck is the first thing an option if you're TELLING PLAYERS IT'S BAD??
the XI collab is the wizdaphne great brickeningat this point it's already too late to start, unironically buying an account with the equivalent of 200 pulls might be the only way to progress fast enough to be able to get 7 red 4* silver tier weapons with good blessings, that come with passives and an equivalent level 6 ST skill by just mindlessly grinding
I got benis
>>576964661you really cooked that loserI almost fell for his bullshit too, thanks
Since Atts to Frags are 10:1 do you think next week they'll let us trade them the other way around too to ease up the grind?
>>576970230Big doubt the grind gets easier are those who haven't unlocked Fragment drops, the whole reason it's like that is to limit newbies from getting all the weapons strong enough to go through the next Abyss that isn't even out yetEven then it's still pretty generous because you can +15 them and wreck most everything up to A4It's not the end of the world anyway, Silver Two Handed Axes are competitive with Ragnarok because it doesn't have DEF pen, for exampleThe staff is great but mages aren't and you're struggling with their soft caps and low ST damage anywayThe katana is only good because it's hard to farm one normally, anything hard probably resists the ATK Down anywayOnly thing with lasting power is the bow with its ACC buff for Rangers but it's really niche
Why does the fairy have her own armor system?
>>576971803I M M E R S I O N
>>576971803because jd hates money and wanted to make sure no one would pull for her
No nms have spawned for me on floor 5.
>Sorry about this!
>>576977809in the left and right side rooms there should be 3 mobs instead of 2one will always be a small size, either 2x rabbits 2x goblins or 2x goblins and 1 slimeone of those is also in the bottom right roomonce you clear the floor you can walk to floor4 and back in and they'll have respawnedjust keep doing that
>>576886593What about the secret option puyo puyo?
>>576886593Phantasy Star would be kino but Sega really wants you to forget Phantasy Star was ever good.For me, Slayers is top of the list. But Ys would be very cool if we're going for the japanese boomer gamers.
do you think a couple years from now we will reach this level of equipment powercreep?
>>576886593Assuming limited resources and pandering to boomers, MH collab would probably go like this>classic MH-themed, using the grasslands as a reference to Verdant Hills>Only new regular enemies are Velociprey, with a Velocidrome mini boss>After killing the Velocidrome you unlock a cave, you"re asked to steal an egg from a Wyvern's nest>When you steal the egg a Rathian appears and chases you, have to go through the correct pathing in the cave or the egg breaks/rathian corners and kills you and you have to wheel>Final quest is to track and kill a Rathalos in the grasslands, it moves around on the overworld and you have to paintball it. During battle it can flee and change areas and you have to give chase.>After beating the main collab quest there are daily hunting quests, some require you to capture just like with bounties but using MH traps/tranq, challenge quests like fighting rathian/rathalos at the same time>Secret boss for whales is Silver Rathalos/Gold Rathian with critical poison/aoe firespam>Palico NPCs appear in dungeons, as well as that Wyverian Elder you can trade stuff with>No MH characters, instead we get MH armored alts of Wizdaph legos>Lana in Rathalos armor and SNS>Gerulf in Gravios armor and Hammer>Debra in Kirin armor and Bow
>>576985885>only Awakened>not AscendedOnly +15 Fervor Overcap and not +30, pfft
>>576986082Also there'd obviously be farmable MH weapons as well, just from different monsters. You also have to do a bunch of MH style gathering with bugs/mining/etc. There'll be some npc hunter who comes in through a portal as well and he teaches you how to craft stuff like flash/paint/tranq bombs etc.
>>576986082>>576886593MH really doesn't feel as unc anymore. Certainly, I as an old man who plays Wizardry played it back in the day when it was only for our sort of demographic, using fan translation patches on modded PSPs. It's not really like that anymore though. Certainly Chad types don't play MH, because it features no assault rifles or sportsball, but you find some normal dude on a college campus who wears graphic tees of any kind and ask him what games he likes an MH will come up sooner than later.
>>576987376I just figured it'd make sense to make it classic MH themed since if it happens it almost certainly has to feature Rathalos as the main boss. Rathian is an easy addition since its very similar models + shared skeleton/animations. At that point its easy to just go with a classic MH theme.Of course it would be fucking cool if it was GU themed and we got the Fated Four appearing in each abyss, and Yrsa gets a cute Gammoth alt.
Did I just brick my relic weapon (2H sword) by leveling it to +5 first before upgrading it's tier? Reading conflicting information on whether or not it matters what tier you start enhancing. Also are these things even worth using right now at their base version? I'm currently going through Abyss 2.
I don't feel I am making good relic progress. Are you only killing 8 demons and leaving or both rooms full of mobs?
>>576990441Blessing tiers are set so your first slot is always always going to fall between 11 and 26 bonus attack depending on your luck, but not at all on what relic step you're on. The weapon starts in line with bronze weapons, so probably not worth using since you're looking for Iron shit by the time you unlock the event. On step 2/Gilded Blade, it is in line with Iron so definitely worth using as you are wrapping on Abyss 1 stuff and moving into Abyss 2. At Dynamis Blade it is in line with Silver equipment, which generically is on par for about up to floor 4 or so of Abyss 3 but can be stretched past that since it has good blessings. Then when you grind out the attestation items to upgrade it to Valhalla, it will be used into Abyss 4, and the final step makes it at least in discussion for best 2H sword in the game. Grinding it to final step is possible as you are right now but is a miserable slog with IRL timegates so I would go to 3rd step and call that good because it's pretty free. Or stop on step 2 if you want to preserve the difficulty a bit better.
>>576990441As a noob you won't have Full Alteration Stones to use on them and it's debatable if you'd want to anyway, so you're fine. However if you manage to enable taking it to +15 you should try to Alter at least +4 SUR into the 3rd substat, instead of... EVA? (I forgot what was there already)The rule of thumb is most or all of the relics have a dump stat in the 3rd substat slot that you should replace if you can, so you're fine to Enhance to +14 without worrying about bricking
>>576990874well it dependsclearing the full room gives you also other mats and shit but you need to be able to afk the full linked room unless you wanna tiptoe around thingstechnically you only need 3 drops per 3 hours since you can't trade more than thatgoing through the whole castle once a day to see if any NM spawned doesnt take long and is potentially extra drops
>>576990874When I farmed (been done for days) I just rammed straight towards the 8x demons in each side room and killed the placeholders for NMs nearby when it was convenient (they tend to drop gold chests with the other mats pretty often so its not a waste of time even if NMs don't spawn). I avoided other fights other than those when possibleYou may or may not be able to do this due to the other mobs blasting the shit out of you when they aggro, if you can't it's fine to just go for the SW 8x demon on the west wall because it's easier to not aggro the others, then reset and repeat, but you will be beholden to the trade timersYou need to bap NMs while you're at it to get more non-dagger mats to get ahead of the trade timers
>>576990874I only built one relic and probably only going to build 1 moreI aimed for the 8pack on boths sides and reset until I had 50~ atte / frags and then used the trader to cover the restI had enough tonberry stuff for 1 from clearing the story twice, I'll probably have to farm that this time
>>576990874I just killed everything, didn't really bother with checking nm respawns or whatever. Just finished my last relic last night but looking back I definitely nolifed it to a degree.
Anniversary will introduce Wizardry first ever good DPS mage.
>>576992286It will wield Cestii instead of a Staff, and cast FIST
When do NM respawn? I went through the castle and killed 3 or so, farmed 5th floor for about two hours. When I went back through the castle, there weren't any NM.
>>576992653from what we know there's 10 daily spawns, 6 of which can be respawned by killing the appropriate placeholderon day change there's a chance 0 to 10 will be up across the 5 floorsof the respawnable ones killing the placeholder mobs and changing zone respawns either the placeholder or the NM itself with no cooldown (i've had back to back spawns)zoning out of the castle completely also respawns things but I've never had a NM spawn like that after the first time, it always took a placeholder kill
>>576992286Wasn't the sleepy bitch already that?
>>576993142no
MY EYES
>>576993832AGORRRRRAAAAAAA
It is funny when you get 3 NMs active on the same floor at the same time.
I started the game yesterday and I am going to save for Yuzunamiki. All Yuzu patriots post art of her pls, she is cute.
>>576997780You are not supposed to fall in love with fox women anon...
>>576997780"beasts are to free"
This game needs VR
i'm not gonna finish all the relics.....
>>576998343
>>576998039>Fox>Sexy ninja archetype>EvilIt was over before it began.>>576998343W-what type for free, anon?
>>576999373you have an entire month to do it
>>576999571>he doesn't know about the next set of 7 relics
So i'm this anon >>576747815 i still haven't done A3 and i just got this, so i can just get to 70 in the collab with full silver relics for A3+A4? will it be too easy now? should i stop or at least make a new team? or is there still some challenge even with all that.
>>577001705honestly this collab is great, so much exp and junk and farming you can doI'd just push and squeeze as much as you can out of it, the game will still kick your ass without question in the future
>>577001705>will it be too easy now?A3 might be trivialized (which is sad because it was PEAK at launch but it was already nerfed in several ways and there's no going back), but A4 True End, relicbrew farming, post-A4 questline for the bondmate, and some bounties and superbosses will still be interesting enough, don't worry about itYou can always gimp yourself with worse weapons if you want A3 Gamblers to stab you in the dick multiple times before you RNG through it
If I start A3 the mobs in the event should start dropping Ebonsteel junk right?
>>577002818I think it's an amalgam of requests done, well of the mind lanterns picked up, exams done, and abyss progress that adds up to whatever hidden metric tips you towards the next unlock in collab afaikIt certainly won't hurt
>>576999373it's fine. just forge what you want, unless you're a completionist. don't forget to use trade too.
>in a 1x1 with only 1 way in>I'm also looking out>something comes to me and attacks>AMBUSHEDI have no idea how this shit works
Might be too early to speculate for a new collab but I hope they will do a relic where you can roll lines individuallyMaybe like FFX but I dont remember much how ultimate weapons work in it
>>577000876Please stop silently judging my poor financial choices...
>>577004591ultimate/celestial weapon in FFX is just collecting sigil and crest. what you're thinking is the normal weapon one, you can add lines manually to the empty slot.
nothing really feels as good as a counterattack into crit insta killmaybe a bunch of them in a row
These gold pickaxes are unusually generous for JD to give
>>576997780I love evil beastfolk womengrats on picking best girl and not being a smelly benis poster
So I picked Aboris in the free legendary selector after starting playing a week ago. I had him in my backline with a bow and he's been doing decent damage, especially against bosses with his unique skill. But now I'm in A3 and my Priest almost does more damage than him. What are some good damage dealers that I can put in the back that isn't a fighter? I already have 3 in the front and would like some variety.
>>577008290Your options are literally just thief with a bow or a ninja with kunai if you don't want a fighter. Farming for the latter is actual hell.How is your priest doing comparable damage to him though? is it because his str is in the gutter because he's an elf lol or are you counting any kind of type advantage in? are your blessings and enchants on him not up to par?
>>577008598He's precision striking for 250 on crits and sneak attacking for nearly double that. My Priest is nuking for over 200. No advantages.I put all his BP into dex so that was most likely a mistake. I'm using the relic bow on him with 2nd reforge and it's way better than anything I've found so far.
>>577008290There aren't really that many options for damage in the backline outside of Fighter.Mages can cast spells but are more useful for landing debuffs. Don't let that write them off for you though, because debuffs in this game are much more useful than you would think.You could also run another Priest to help with healing/buffing teammates.There are also Kunai Ninjas (More difficult to build, and you ideally want Yuzunamiki if you're going to run one for DPS backline) and Rangers (Won't be outdpsing Fighters; mostly useful for mob clearing).
>>577008994ahh ok, if you want him to do damage, stop using precision strike. If you have a bugen and don't think you'll feed your arboris to someone else (it's a tempting offer, since his inherit is really good), inherit a single Decisive Torso Strike - also known as DTS - onto him. That's the de-factor no requirement attacking skill, which used to be heavy attack 3 back in the day.Thieves just naturally don't do that much damage though, and they require some investments that you might not want to commit to yet to become combat-competitive. Later on, a thief will do more damage than a priest, because magic damage is really gimped by innate soft caps so it won't really go beyond the 250-500 area I don't think. While my endgame Linaria is dishing out 1k shots on the fly at least. There's also consideration of what you're using on your priest to nuke, since if you're comparing a basic class skill to a high cost or signature skill then yeah it probably won't be up to snuff.
>>577009170>rangersah right, I forgot about that. I knew there was something missing.
Accidentally clicked do nothing on a rare 8demon chest award
Accidentally clicked do nothing with my life :(
>>577007454Evil just means that not even morality will stop them from doing something to help you when they like you. Ninja wives will express their devotion and loyalty by killing your enemies without mercy (then cuddling with you)
>>577010753>>577010894uhhhh bro wheeled
>>577010160This but on a NW and I don't know why Dreadcum puts that button so close to the open button when 90% of the playerbase is made up of low 器用 ojisans.
>>576997780The best thing about being a YuzuGOD is that you're unassailable. Anti-metafags seether that your waifu is the second best character in the game. Putityfags seethe that you don't care about her past. Anti-beastman fags are just fags. GoodPUSSIES secretly want evil women. You're simply above them. And it's true, YuzuGODS run this town. Save for her and her pin and then use her as a ranger because she's cute with a ponytail just to prove you're beyond those with shit taste.
>>577011394silence nigga you saw nothing
>Open first chest in A3>insta kill smoke on my MCkek wtf
>>577011717Had potential to be an insidious shitpost but you laid it on too thick
>>577010894Foxes always betray.
Evil women want good LordCHADS
>got everyone but zeid without spending gems on rolls>kinda want all the collab characters but am also really content with my current party>anni is also up>and chances are this will rerundecisions, decisions...
>>577013065Superb, rivalled only by a pure love between evil man and evil woman.
I got the katana relic fully upgraded and it was a huge power spike compared to my garbage blessing silver katana. I know 2H swords and staves are way easier to come by, but it should be worth it to farm for them, right? The staff my mage is using has pretty bad blessings, and I wouldn't be surprised if the sword is better than any 2H I have. My team can't use anything else really. Maybe backline fighter MC with a bow instead of a spear?
>>577013806they're quite easy to farm, go for it. You mentioned silver gear so you're not grade-capped.
>>5770138062H staff is brick because you have 0 reasons to have high div/mag1H+shield is superior because you can get much better blessings on them2H staff and 1h sword are easiest skipsDagger has it's niche for ninjas, bow is meh for rangers but okayish if you need range i guess, 2H sword is great, katana is great, shield is a meme
>>577013989high mag makes debuff spells easier to land
how tf do you remove this poison?
>>577013806i mean the event runs for another monthwhat else are you gonna do if you're actively playing the gamesome of the relics might be slightly worse if you already have +20 optimized silver weapons but they're still incredibly good for how easy they are to get, just time consuming
>>577013989>bow is meh for rangersThe fuck it is. It's great for rangers, just alter the attack % and it's basically perfect.
>>577014253feed someone enough Mariannes to level up their dios to level 3 (recommended your MC first and then your main duo caster)If you don't have that then it's a trip to the temple
>>577013989I still use aoe mage spells sometimes and I want them to one shot stuff so why would mag be useless? Godefroi and the shadow boss want you to have mag damage toodo spells just not scale well after a certain number so big numbers are redundant?
>>577014367Latomofis, not dios.
>>577014720>why would mag be uselessBecause you are already hitting the soft cap, because spell soft caps are really fucking low. That said I'm not sure what the soft cap on it's unique skill is.
>>577015068good catch
are bounties daily or weekly?
>>577015169What's the soft cap in specific? Do we have the numbers on all spells? my blessings really are bad, it's not like my mage is getting much of a boost unless you just naturally hit the softcaps which is silly and unfortunate
>>577015292some of the rewards are monthlythe bounties themselves come back whenever you wheelpersonally I still haven't touched them
>>577014720its because offensive mages have no places as soon as you start gearing, and since anon is turbo metafagging he doesn't even comprehend the thought of having a mage in your partya priest wants a 1 hander so that you can stack ASPD on a shieldcoupled with the fact that soft caps are relatively low, the relic staff is rather weakbut since players at all stages of the game exist, if you enjoy using offensive mages, it's a great weapon to buildshould you prioritize other weapons if you're thinking of "account meta"? yesif youre having fun who cares>i made the staff second because i like to aoe the 8pack of demoniggers even if its inefficient or not meta
>need tags to get everyone to Iron so trying to get the bones in every Mausoleum floorthis is boring me to tears
>>577015508don't forget your monthly resetting bones if you need help getting some extra bodys to dismiss for tags
>Dispatches can mine the rare itemsMaybe I will take a break from Lana's forever nightmare and use that slot for more mining.
>>577015663>I still can't hit 3 tripshow annoying
>>577015465I would still be metafagging in the sense of "do I have the stuff to handle every situation" and a good mage still seems very important for Godefroi at the very least. If I wouldn't actually benefit from better mag bonuses then I suppose I couldn't care but since I have the time to grind why not give my Asha everything I can?
>>576985885sovl
+Pie Yrsa or true neutral Yrsa? Same BP and fortitude. I can't remember if boons syphon points away from other stats.
>A3 unlocked>Iron grade completed>Event still dropping only steel junkguess I need to progress though A3 a bit
>>577017318Go with no Boon.
Would Iroha be too busted if the aoe from her combo was remove and added as a separate skill?
>>577017338you need to reach a4, anon...
>>577018297Would yoizou be too busted if the aoe from his wind up was remove and added as a separate skill?
>>577013806Post katanya if its so great
Is there a best spot to farm tonberries?
>>577019196Just grab them when you see them while doing 8 kindreds. It's the only floor where you are not baited by small shadows that are not tonberry.
>>577019261>small shadows that are not tonberrythe gobbos say hi
>>577019410It's pretty easy to not be baited by the NM placeholders when they spawn in the same spots every time.
>>576898013by using heinrico.
>>577020256Has anyone tried scattershot on figher yrsa yet?
>>577020256First off I refuse, second off that's not even true since he is better off returning to being a ranger after you grab the thief skills so you benefit from sniper.
If my MC is in the back row I should be able to see my front row's butts
>>577021283>anus swocarcinization of daphne players
good day, fellow gwos. i don't know if someone has share it here but here's the catbox link for mushi's wizdaphne doujinshi if someone want to save/read it.https://files.catbox.moe/rudimi.zip
Is it safe to use a lesser FAS on relic weapons?
How do I unlock the blacksmith?
>Treatment on a mage
>>577022461lesser fas will reroll the initial blessing's numbers, but it can be better or worsenormal fas will reroll + add 1 bonus like you've hit an enchanctment bonus so it'll always be better at least, unless you're using multiple FASes
>>577022348Oh shit it's a proper scan version??? Very nice
Kot gwos, w-what happened...shiou = brick now?
>>577025960Fuck that, I have GOT to know about Valdor
>>577013370your free boner pick?
>>577026465Valdor is goated since he is a very tanky knight that can heal/cure.
>>577025960>Yoizou that high>Gerard that highWhy are all our tierlist memes?
>>577025960Whoever made this list is trolling super fucking hard.
Just got the tonberry king cutscene, any tips before I try him?
im getting tired about the powercreep in the gamebefore yuzu and prishe the difference between whales and low spenders/f2p was like 50% maxnow they are dishing out 3-4x more damage
>>577022348Nice! Thank you.
>>577029326Not really, f2p could still get a d0 yuzu with sig and the difference between that and a whale yuzu is just as big as the difference between a f2p wana and a whale cuisinart wana used to be
Pic went so hard i had to sharehttps://x.com/i/status/2086282659312124058
>>577029794I'll post this then
>>577029573>difference between that and a whale yuzu is just as big as the difference between a f2p wana and a whale cuisinart wana used to beholy fucking copiumwhale yuzus hit for ~30k while most f2p (with sig) hit for ~6-7kdifference was never that big between 2 lanas who have cuisinart
do i REDEEM my freebie or wait until event's over and see what i get from bones...........
>>577029264My tips is that you don't waste your time, if you have to ask you aren't beating him.
>>577030161anon, don't mind that retard. He's just another anti-meta fag that doesn't know anything about the game.
>can't beat the lead grade examowari da...
>>577029794Nice! How do they even get these pictures? On pc I can't change camera angles or anything.
How are japs making their Prishes so strong??!?!?!? Mine does no damage! I do basic attack, Combo and then Asura for like 4k damage, what am I missing?
>>577031579Whale gearSpending moneyPassive skillsLinaria buffAnemone buffRedbrick buff
>>577031579First off, you are doing it wrong.>inherit a better attack>lv asura to 3+>do basic, better attack, basic, asura, and then alternate your better attack and asura, refreshing her speed buff when it falls offEven at skill level 1 you should be doing at least 6k every asura, with mediocre gear.
>>577031070cwo (cute warped one)...
>>577031579you need asura on lvl5 with 400+ attack, max skillchain to get the twitter screenshots
>>577031429Mostly stair bug (i think), some creators just use pictures of attack cycles midanimation too. Im not sure what triggers the stair bug but i had it happen once, other than that, there is also a bug where a unit u picked to open chest walks to a chest, but you made a input to move, so you get a wider angle of the chest opening.There is also frozen statue picture tech, where you freeze your own units and put them in water areas for cool statue shots. On PC you can also move the inspect menus left and right so you can get a central look at the unit you are inspecting, giving you a cleaner shot at them.
>>577031579increase your prishe attack using inherit(passive atk up, atk up(fighter), way of the warrior, etc etc), and relicbrew (snow cyclops etc). Increase your Asura skill level, make your SUR stat >100 so you have a high chance of critting. Grab a good +20 cesti.
>>577031579OK, here's team dedicated solely for max damage Prishe: Lana-Prishe-Anemone at front and Mc (Priest with Red Brick inherit)-Linaria-Elise in back, after Linaria gives her buff switch her with Elise.
>>577033468why would you need to switch elise and linaria? just keep her behind prishe
>>577033848linaria can only buff someone adjacent to her. The frontline is already full
>>577034169oh shit you're rightwhat if you inherit anemone on her? does it not stack?red brick's inherit stacks with his own
>>577034353>red brick's inherit stacks with his owndoes it? I've never head of that, unless scrolls are involved. The other anon's set up is already eating up all the 3 buff slots anyway, one for each of the buff skills, red brick's takes 2 but using it first lets you kick out the res buff.
>>577034353Anemone also have synergy passive which increase skill/spell damage for neutral and good characters in same row.
>>577034723yeah if you use it on red brick and then use it on someone who has red brick inherited you get 2 atk 1 res buff
>>576912426that seems to work for Cancel, then i discovered the game also likes to take away my Map button (G). even if i reassigned it to something else it wouldn't work until i restart the game. what is going on man
>>577031579money, autistic grind, money, 1% stats and luck, money, and most important they have loads of free time(money).
can you make a party comprised of only brown buttholes?
>>577035154Poorfags really fell for the Prishe meme huh? She isn't for you lil' bro. She's a collab character, you need her at D9 with at least 400$ worth of codexes into her kit+every important inherit in the game (you DO have a dozen Alex Way of Knight inherits available right?) In order to make her OP. She's not for peasants bro, stick to Lana and Chloe, maybe you'll be able to splurge a D0 Yuzu with pin after months without rolling. People didn't learn their lesson with Ainikki, who is a super good gish knight+priest frontliner who also deals good damage for whales, but is a giga bricked pos for D0 poors. I'm an F2P peasant btw.
>>577035480>Yoizou>Heinrico>Prishe>Livana>Linariayeah
>>577035480no because you're always in the party and your butthole is abyss colored
>>577035519>ainiggi is a brickShe's helped me get through every single fight that would need a knight, without one. I would never level a kn*gger. F2p, of course.
Is there a way to get demons to spawn? or is it 100% RNG?
>>577035752>he's helped me get through every single fight that would need a knightso what you're saying you cleared with a half baked knight and would have cleared those fights regardless? shocker
>>577035519>super good gish knight+priest frontliner who also deals good damage for whales,even whales don't use her, anon....
>>577036098 its a shitpost
>>577017338It starts dropping ebon, light type, and undead killer shit after you beat the first floor of A1, but the junk has literal 0% chance of 5star or red and even purple/4star is rare as shit from it so it can be an easy place to mass farm junk as just starter gear to +5 or for unification when you get your hands on something good, but don't bother to use it to gear up for A3. It won't drop Silver shit until you're in A4.
>>577036912First floor of A3, obviously. It's early and I am also retarded
Game works on linux and steam deck again, check steam forum for the fix
>>577022582i think he appears after a certain floor when you return to the floor select
I don't do dispatches because any dispatch with rewards worth having is on level with me and I'm not going to bother using tags and exp items on second and third parties when my own party is not at 70 yet.
>>577039504You can still send shit out on the exp dispatches, even if you don't grade them up now the exp accumulates for when you do. I kept rinne at like level 20 for so long when I finally had tags she instantly shot up to 70.
I am disappoint
how bad is the advanced knight trial? i wanna cc lana to fighter with no intention of turning her back but she's my only level 70 kniggerdo i have to level 2 more shitters to atleast 60?
>>576993042How do you know if it will respawn or not? Is it based on NM name/class?
>>577040791If the placeholder goblin/rabbit spawns are there or not.
>>577040791for example in this room (left side, one way, f5) there's only always 2 mobsthe fact there's 3 means the small guy is a placeholderyou can confirm it by clearing the room, zoning down or up and floor and coming back and only that one mob will have respawned (or its also timed if you spend enough time away but changing floor is quicker)every kill it has a chance to respawn as a NM insteadevery daily reset i just go through the castle killing everything then walk back and notice what respawned, those are placeholders for the day
>>577041006>>577041176Genocidebros, does that mean only placeholders respawn without completely leaving the castle?
>>577041884correctfrom my testing out of the 10 pool of NMs the other 4 who do not have a placeholder have a chance to spawn every time you actively zone out of the castleif you wanna go and hunt for them its up to you, generally I take whatever comes as a daily bonus
Is it safe to dismiss Eckart for tags? Haven't been really impressed with knight skills so far besides stun bash. Are there any recs on adventurers that are safe to dismiss for tags? Is it better to dismiss nameless or general adventurers?
>>577042070>have a chance to spawnjust once*, if you kill them they're down for the the day
>>576886593>MH>GranblueBoth fandom are infested with mentally ill, be it in 4chan /vg/ or outside of it. I do not want to see wizdaf have a collab with either of those.
>>577042130Dismissing general adventurers gives an extra tag versus nameless, dismissing a legendary gives an extra two. Attract has more than 0 use cases, but not many. I'd call him a safe dismiss.
>>577042130nameless are easy dismissals. Generics depends on their inherits or if they're good units to actually use or not. I like Eckhart's inherit to put on backliners and anyone who has a bit of bulk, but that' a personal thing. I think he's fine for the chopping block
>Prishe dealing big DPS with Poison Attack and Heavy StrikeYou don't even need Asura Fists lmao
>>577022348>Masketta didn't fuck RickertTch... very cool doujin nonetheless.Masketta being a ghul probably makes it hard for people to create doujins out of him. Imagine having to ask Rickert for an un-ghuling potion everytime he wants to have sex....
>>577042130Attract Hit lvl 5 is decent bit realistically you're never gonna have it on more than 3 characters.
>>577029573>>577030161What's sig?
>>577043023I think the bigger reason is it’s a relatively small game with an older fan base and not many artists.Ojisans don’t have the time to go to Corpoket anymore.
>>577042197What, you can only kill the NMs once a RL day?
>>577042130I used to dismiss Eulalia until i actually put her in my party and started to grow on me. Behind cover is kind of meh, only works on knights. Eulalia's discipline itself is pretty good though; HP and Defense. Makes her pretty fat for an elf unlike that nigga Eldorado.
>>577043426out of the 10, 4 are a one time kill, the other 6 follow placeholder rules so you can kill them as many times as you want
>>577043692I like Behind Cover desu. Really any passive skill is one I have a hard time dismissing because it doesn't cost a turn or SP or anything, just 2 tags. You might as well have it all else being equal.
>>577044250I rarely see it proc i just gave up on it...
>>577044410Level 1 is only a 20% chance and by level 7 it only goes to 35%, but it also gets defense incrementally so that by level 7 it also adds 30 to your defense while you step in. It's not really something to bank on and get super excited about in that almost 2 out of every 3 single target attacks are still going to get through and of course it does nothing against AoE but 35% of the time it works 100% of the time. The overall damage coming into your formation is lowered and it is kept up front where it can be managed with 1 Madios. Line cover is not really good enough to be picked over other knight moves but if I can just have it up all the time, why not?
>>577008290>But now I'm in A3 and my Priest almost does more damage than himHuh? Your Priest does 3k?
Do the Tomberry King Respawn?i did kill him one, never seen it again
>>577043178signature weaponit's a gacha term, yuzu's sig is ctirus blossom hairpin
>>577047620They removed him because he wasn't supposed to spawn until the 2nd phase of the event I think
>>577047740I'm F2P and i dont think i ever had a signature weapon. Isn't that obtainable only from rolling 100 times as F2P?
>>577047824yes, but if you are using yuzu it's 100% worth it
>>577047748Guess i can use this as a braggin' right then(Until tomorrow of course)
>>577048046I have a 90 fort yuzu and i don't have the signature weapon. Is my Yuzu bricked? It's kinda hard to save up 20k orgs with the gem gain.
>>577047824Older ones go into the merchant's adv bone token shop when the characters go to standard (she'll prob be on Adv Bone IV), plus her alt is due soon
>>57704823290 fort doesn't matter but not having a sig is assshe is no better than a random fighter without her siglook on the bright side it's only 18k gems if you buy the 11 bone pack
>>577048232Nah, she's already an s-tier character without her weapon, she just becomes ss-tier with it.I beat a4 using a farmable silver kunai and she was still the highest damage dealer in my team until I pulled the hairpin on the rerun. Downside is farming for a good beclouded kunai was awful, shrouded kunai should be easier now I think. She's also the best ranger in the game so you can class change her and use her as that until you get her hairpin and hopefully an alt you can merge to.
>>577048232Switch to ranger and give her the relic bow with altered acc if you don't plan on getting her hairpin.
>>577047620>>577047748He also moves around to random spots day by day based on what I’ve seen from nips before they pulled him.
>nips shitposting about how the Spelunker’s Hat and Stumbling Sandals have a hidden effect of making you better at miningIt’s like I’m really playing FFXI in 2004.
What the hell is "Utsusemi" mentioned in zeids abyssal strike?
4 Relics done.Going to slow down for now to see what happens on Thursday.
>>577051126
>>577051126The ninja passive probably.
>>577051126as i remember, Utsusemi:ichi/Ni were a ninja skill that nullified one/two sources of damageas far as i seen, only Lion used it for now
>>577051126It's a move that a certain boss uses in the FFXI collab that evades the next 3 physical attacks.
>>577050814they forgot Mineral Gloves
>>577048232Ninja Yuzu with hairpin > Ranger Yuzu with bow > Ninja Yuzu with normal kunai
>>577048232Ranger yuzu is good enough to feel decent. A massive step up from no pin, although still worse than with pin.
slow day
How long does it take for nm to respawn? hours?
>finally end the relic grind a few days before Part 2>likely gonna get another set of relics to grindThe grind wouldn't be so bad if the NM and the 8-pack monsters would drop attestation and fragments 100% of the time
>butthole haversAbenius, Ainikki, Alice, Camille, Flut, Human-Pri, Lanavaille, Ophelia, Shiou, Viviana>anus haversAsha, Beast-Thi, Clarissa, Debra, Elf-Mag, Eulalia, Human-nin, Iroha, Linaria, Marianne, Olive, Prishe, Rinne, Savia, Shelirionach, Yekaterina, Yrsa>asshole haversAmelia, Barbara, Berkanan, Chloe, Elise, Livana, Milana, Yuzunamiki
>>577062145Some spawn once a day, some respawn infinitely as long as you clear the placeholder goblin or rabbit pack that spawns instead and either clear more mobs on that floor, or leave the floor and come back to do it again until an NM spawnsIt's better to just do 8x demon packs on Z5 and clear the NM/PH near them
>>577062909>some respawn infinitely as long as you clear the placeholder goblin or rabbit pack that spawns instead and either clear more mobs on that floor, or leave the floor and come back to do it again until an NM spawnsI've been killing this thing and its been nothing for about an hour. I was wondering if there was a antifarm limit set where it will only reappear after x amount of time. It could be my terminal lucklet status though.
>>577063936It took me 4 hours to get a spawn on my first farm day its more efficient to farm x8 demons.
>>577048782nta but do you need the hairpin maxed or is a single one at +10 good enough? I have one but has shit stats and is one star.
>>577063936The first day when there were 3 on Z5 I'd get one NM every 2 cycles or so avg and then it completely dried up to the point where I'd maybe see one an hour for the rest of the night, so it's possibleThey did it before with Fey junk drops in B&B
>>577063936it just seems to follow pure lottery, the only limitation is one PH kill between each other. I've had back to back NMs (NM PH NM), while others took 20+ respawnsi'd assume its just a straight up 5-10% chance to spawn or something like that
while technically yes 8x is more time efficient as an old time XI player there's just something about NMs that does itmaybe its the nostalgia of sitting somewhere for hours on end hunting some obscure fucking NM
>skimmed the thread just nowClearing up some misinfo for newbies. If you enjoy the game and have not played for long restarting on a starter is the best value purchase you can do. Anyone claiming otherwise is either jobless or a retard with no value on their time. Do not listen to vg room temp iq and suffer through shit gacha mechanics on a good game
Is there a point to kill the daily NM outside Z5? It seems to take more time doing that
Ayy lmao
>He's returned.bUy ThE sTaRtEr AcCoUnTs!
>>577069443That's it, im going to play FF11sadly i don't remember the password of my 20 year old account
I've personally contributed to providing several villages in SEA with rice for months by telling anons to buy starter accounts.
>>577070171They are surprisingly good at restoring old accounts. Think you just need the username and some basic info on the account. Going through the seven levels of playonline is the hardest part.
>>577069443No that's actually sick.
>>577065362Yesterday when it was 3 spawns on 5F, I did 42 runs and got 4 Morax, 4 Sabnock, and 5 Naberius spawns. So 1/10 seems about right. Think my worst so far was like 35 filler kills between spawns.
Instead of Accept Death it should say “Return to Home Point” if you died in the collab…
>>577069443Guess I have to log on this month. I need to throw away a couple mil gil doing the monthly aman trove cucking anyway.
If you remake relic, do you lose FAS bonuses and need to use it again?
>>577074513FAS bonus stays
>3(three) tonberries>monsters in the back throwing AOE fireballs at my backline>get same reward as fighting a single tonberryGoing from piss easy fights to having my balls crushed was a real wake up call.
Holy shit! Got it from 8 demons.
>>577070646OH GOD, I TOTALLY FORGOT HOW MUCH PLAYONLINE IS ASSLEMME PLAY!!!!!!
>>577075437>disparaging the indian filterI wish everything on the Internet was behind PlayOnline
>>577075908>>577076018
>>577076145What are you looking at, you thought bread was a shield
>>577076018It's an MMO you have to pay monthly for, that has always been sufficient filter. The only thing they should make mandatory is every MMO launcher needs to have a loud ass 2000s era song blaring like PlayOnline's Dolphin.
>>577074932Unfortunately the bracelet is actually a troll piece of equipment like the stumbling sandals. The special effect only gives a 4% attack buff and it takes up one of the character's three buff slots. So if the character gets hit, one of their good buffs gets replaced with a bad one.
I hope the next alt isn't Yuzu or Sheri, need to save for anni
>>577064489Hairpin has frontloaded upgrades, leveling past +10 doesn't give you a huge boost or anything, the extra hit and def pentration is what hard carries it. I have a shitass 1* hairpin and it does the job fine, if you get a bad hairpin you can make up for it with a 4* purple beclouded in your offhand
>>577077525Still a good base though, you can just treat it like a 4* red ebonsteel. That one looks perfect for an evasion knight or ninjato
Is ranger MC gonna be any good?
>>577064489Most gacha weapons go to about 80% of their maximum attack value at +10, which is one copy, 90% at +15 which is two copies, then finally 100% at +20 which is three copies. Really the big difference is that copies 2 and 3 bring that extra blessing enhancement. They already have their full bonus passives at +0.
>>577081387>Passive Accuracy Up (Fighter)>Passive Accuracy Up (Ranger)>Passive Accuracy Up (Mind)>Ranged Weapon ProficiencyYeah probably.
How long till the next Abyss? I'm trying to do the true ending of A4 but those villagers are a pain to kill in time
>>577081840Kinda want the relic bow for mc ranger...
Is there a guaranteed tonberry spawn anywhere? Z5 can spawn one in either rooms but it feels very RNG and I only need tonberry drops to finish my 2 relics
>100 Ouroboros Ore>0 LFAS>0 FASThat's it, I'm donning the Spelunker's Hat
>>577084107did you try talking to Maat?
>>577084029You can trade for them with attestations and stuff, may as well keep doing 8 demons if you ask me
>>577084386Yes, 20 years ago
How does remaking a relic work? On fasterthoughts it says:Does not modifyReforge level (No need to farm materials again)But then it gives a table with the enhanced material costs when remaking relics one time. Kinda conflicting information.
>>577074513Returns to +0 exactly the same as before with the exact same stats, including alteration stones. Refinement stones are lost.
>>577087650it resets your enhancement level.that's it.
So people are mentioning astral break for prishe, specifically for use in boss fights? Does it stack with her normal auto attack speed buff? Seems like a steep sp cost considering her sp isn't that high.Are people using the basic skills she comes with to ramp or for general use or is there another good cheap skill to inherit?
>>577087650Remaking isn't free, it costs 10 Ouroboros 22 Attest 22 Frag 75 of whatever material
>>577088149Are you sure they mean using AB as Prische, and not being buffed with AB by whoever's behind her? Idk how exactly her ramp-up works because I don't have her, but with everyone else you want to have it up on them before their first turn so they get their 2nd and up turns faster
>>577088684the idea seems to be that you switch between normal attacks and different skills, she gets an aspd boost upon regular attacks then you want to use skills after to get the chain bonus up then use her ultimate skillbut it isn't like astral break will be a consistently viable option and she already comes with cheap skills so it seems like an odd pick especially since she already gets an aspd buff
>>577089150>she already gets an aspd buffThey stack to the moon judging from MC Shedding+porto+ABAnd I guess since Prishe is Neutral, I can see having her use AB herself with Elise Knight behind her for the 10% dmg buff instead of 5-turn Alice w/AB inherited or whateverDamn this is making me want her, must stay strong for anni...
>>577090190For a full on boss killing setup it kinda makes sense if she doesn't have to conserve SPI just need an arboris dupe if it's actually worth it
>>577088149All of the different WT reduction buffs stack, but only up until the cap.Astral isn't bad on Prishe, but it costs a bit too much SP and is generally better off being inherited to a support unit instead.For ramping, you can use her regular skills, but Delay Attack, Armor Break, and DTS are also good options.Threefold Mist from alt Rinne is probably the most important inherit for Prishe. It makes her a great farmer and lets her quickly get Impetus stacks against boss fights with adds. Some people also give her First Arrow from Yrsa.
what the gobby doing on b1f in the collab areaseems he like doesnt do much other than offering a trade when you wheel back
>>577092196It feels like they wanted to give him an FFXI goblin model but ran out of time so now he sits there, halfassed.
>>577090190I feel like they're probably going to be a bit restrained with he anni charcter this year. Like the character will be unambiguously good, and there will probably be great banners, but I think they will try to avoid another Yuzu. I think maybe the balance outlier will come a little later when they add Garbage to promote the anime.
>>577092196Seems it's just a reference to a goblin NPC in FFXI. He's also at the start of Castle Zvahl Baileys and starts your relic quest.
>>577091904Is regular rinne's skill that much worse? I have a couple dupes I could use
>>577093470it's good but not for Prishe. You put that on fighters to get a strong as fuck row damage hit because it scales on raw attack and fighters have a lot of that with their 2h boost
>>577093470MoF has a huge negative surety modifier and is forced to hit once. It's a decent AoE inherit but not on Prishe.
>>577093760>>577093798Well I can only hope I luckshit rinne alt during anni rolls or something
>>577092547>>577093256
>>577093117I think we'll get a character on a similar tier to Yuzu, but the keypoint will be that they won't release a weapon as broken as her hairpin with them.
>>577100369I didn't know Heinrico was in FFXI
I'm glad that this game's gears actually feels like equipments that you can use however you want and not checkboxes that specifically tailored to one character and useless on anyone else.
To complete the story with other factions, do I have to do the whole Abyss without curse wheeling or can I go to the beginning then wheel to the quest then wheel to the GWO?
>>577104609Kind of a mix. For A2 you have to walk the whole town but when you get to the fights you can use the wheel to have already done the fight prep and just kill the arena people.
>>577104797What about A3? Kinda don't want to go through the doll and the fortress again.
>>577105414There's a way to bypass the doll fight with your new powers.
>>577093760How much attack do you need for it to be good on a fighter? Could be nice for farming
People mentioned lamps and abyss progression (grade too) for silver junk from event, i'm at A2 third run on my alt, with a max level of 40 atm (whole team is about lv 38); I assume for silver i would need atleast copper and three runs of A3? (Mastermind ending) I have not touched any of the side dungeons yet like Malice cave or Labyrinth of fondraig, do those count for the 'points'? I had my daily supplies changed to the purple exp books right now, which is a good sign of progress, the red ones you get at A4 are like 1 mill of exp, pretty nice, but i'm probably far away from that. Really want those 5 attestations but so far just been avoiding the event and doing the requests for materials only.
>>577108256if it helps any:I've cleared the side events (malice fordraig etc)had first A3 cleartaking copper grade exam upgraded drops to silver tier, papers to 5 and allowed fragments to dropI did good ending (not mastermind) after and unlocked first A4 harken just to be sure since gold chests seemed to be very rare instead of rumored 50%
>>577109719Good info thanks, i may have to do malice and fordraig over the next few days then, for now i think ill finish A2 and move to A3, hopefully my team can take the doll down without issue, but i may have to run most of A3 at lv 40 which will be tough, i think i did it at lv 50 on my main. Probably best to farm the event for ebonsteel anti undead weapons, then hop back into A3.
>>577111307Oh, and this run will give me the Bonnie and Clyde lamp + Viscount Guane lamp, so i'm on top of that too, i doubt my team can take down the monster bird soup at the moment, so i won't be going for that lamp.
>>577102961play any actual mmos, even korean shit, and you'll see more of it. Then again mmos are slowly dying while gachas just reaching new levels of popularity.
>>577111519I'm just talking about Gacha in general. Of course "real" games are different. And besides, Gacha games are just castrated MMOs if you think about it
>>577111459I went to double check since you said lamps:I did the good A2 ending, but I'm missing 3 lamps>3 best endings, 3 port town requests, soupas far as events, Malice Cave, Fordraig, Sand Shadow (not heat haze cave), Separation, Pixie and Secret GardenAfter one A3 clear moving to Copper grade unlocked the silver tier for mehope it helps
>>577112014Awesome thank you.
So it's been a while since I played, kind of got out of it because I didn't want to be exp grinding demons. Are there still refreshing bone chests and do I want to hold off on ranking up until I grind enough exp on characters?
Arent these supposed to be the higher tier chests? These POS have constantly given me the worst loot by far during the event.
>>577113468Bone chests respawn like once a month or some shit.
b...benis!
>>577114140hmmmnyo
>>577115215It's wavering.
BeNIs
Did you know that most Jap gacha games never made it to 2nd anniversary?Wizdapnhe has safely passed through the valley of death. I still want it to finish all main dungeon by the 5th anniversary though
>>577116989We haven't made it yet.
>>577116989>I still want it to finish all main dungeon by the 5th anniversary thoughunlikely, in an interview on of the devs said they expect to be grandpas by the time they're donethey plan for 12 abysses so that means at least 7 more years assuming abyss 5 comes out this year and they can keep up with the 1 new abyss/year cycle
>>577117843Cute cockblock.
So what free bones do you think will be in the anni selection this year?
>>577117995buttholerionach
>>577117995I dunno but we better get Standard Banner III, Yuzu alt, MC Ranger, a new OP character and Monk all at once or RIOT
Bibi Summer alt...
1 legendary and 1 general (summer alt) huh.summer sheli and summer clarissa please.
>>577117995I think Linaria's in, something attractive for new/returning players and just plain good.Anemone is 50/50, she was a hard sell for some people when her banner dropped after they found out about how bs fairy gear is to farm. But that also makes her kinda too special to give out for free, idk.Probably Yowaizou as filler, and almost no one will pick him.
>>577118661>a new OP charactereither yuzu 2.0 or yoizou 3.0, there's no in between...
swimsuit lana
I gave JD even more money for this collab>3 x 1-boner>3 x 10-boner>heaven passport for more dispatch mining>regular monthly mission pass because it is a better value than the heaven passport>total: approximately 66 leaf bux
>>577069443FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>577121930Thank you for your service
>>577116989i hope we can make it until the end, because the others are starting to falling apart.https://gameobserver.com/japans-mobile-game-industry-is-falling-apart-as-developer-bankruptcies-reach-historic-levels-in-2026/
>>577128096I've seen this article being paraded everywhere and tbqh, it really doesn't say much. Half of the sample size is "very small businesses with capital of under JPY 10 million (around $63,000) accounted for 15 cases, or 51.7%." There are hundreds of companies of that scale goes bankrupt everyday, in any industry anywhere. Yes, Jap games are shitty and they deserve to die, but this is hardly new trend
>>577128096they deserve itit's japan's fault for making shitty gacha games for decadesname a single good japanese gacha besides wizardry
>>577128813Uma MusumeIdolmaster (SC and SFP)Gakuen Idolmaster...Tribe Nein
>>577129048i can't tell if you're trolling and i don't care enough to figure it out but i hope for your own soul's sake that you are
>>577128096has this shit been pumped on some reddit or something? why are so many SEAniggers spamming it across /v/ and /vg/, mobile devs going bankrupt is nothing new, wait until you see how many chink devs collapse and how much they lose while doing it (rip starlike)
Third attempt at upgrading my FAS'd bow, and the third time it rolled +3 attack.
>>577128813schoolgirls strikers, divine gate, alice gear aigis.>>577129731accept death for the 3rd time.
>>577129731your luck is clearly inversewhere 4 is death to some, to you it will be blessedgodspeed
>>577129182What's wrong with Gakumas
>>577129776>>577129850I got the +11 accuracy this time when it was only +3 the two previous attempts. I'm just going to keep it and get an extra attack blessing on a different piece of equipment. I need to save up materials for the next 7 relics.If I need more damage, I'll just bonk the enemy with a sword.
>>577129880nta, but from what i read the management changed(?), and some of the new management decision is questionable, like selling skill card skin? while ignoring the stale end-game
>>577128813Daphne is not a good gacha, you are simply starved for the niche it provides
>>577126321cute bugs!
>>577128813>>577130176there isn't a single good gacha ever madedaphne has a good core, but its gacha (and really, live service) mechanics contribute nothing to the game. i'm going to be extremely charitable and say the only good thing that comes from them is that you can't easily cheat/savescum and have to really savor the risk
I don't know what to do with all my fragments anymoreI need attestments and lamps
>>577131310Trade them for different fragments to complete deliveries with the largest gil rewards.
2 morehonestly its been pretty chill and I'm just doing like 2 runs per daythe only annoying stuff to farm is the lanterns and tonberries now
Is it just not possible to get the final pass reward as f2p? I have done all the missions but did not get there, I know its ust 40k gil but still, why even have a free tier for that stage if its not reachable
>>577131942because part 2 exists in 2 days gwos. and new missions will be added.
Eva to sur or eva to atk on ragnarok
nyontenth cometh
>>577132072atk2 hand big atk goodsur is more viable if you know the rolls will be shit like in a 3 star or something, of if you're altering the final line in a weapon that got revealed to be something bad
>>577132072doesnt matterRN will fuck you over anyways
>>577132545RNG* fuck
cats, buttholes and sometimes, cat buttholes
Did you gwo go for a double acc bow for ranger or a triple atk bow for fighter/thief?
>>577133107triple atk bow is not worth it for fighter because you lose the wotw bonuson top of the defense pen a good silver axe is just betteras for thieves they are useless anyway so you're already bricked if you're using one
I dont have any FAS left and I sure as hell am not upgrading the rest of my relics until I get them FASd so I guess they will be a longterm project, kinda wish remaking was still possible after the event
>>577116989>Did you know that most Jap gacha games never made it to 2nd anniversary?This is the only gacha i play so i wouldn't know
will the ffxi dungeon get harder if i grade up from steel to copper? i'm not getting any fragment drops at all so i want to grade up to get the drops, but i'm barely beating the 8 demons right now at steel grade, im worried i'll screw myself over if i grade up and the dungeon gets way harder
>>577137207If you're not getting fragment drops it's worth it to level up either way, or your trade ratio for attestments vs fragments stays at a 1:10. You'll get stronger enough to handle it again, unless you aren't uncapping your team accordingly
>>577133579You can safely upgrade them to just before the line you want to alter without losing anything. Reminder they upgraded FAS to keep level up enhancements.
How does this work? Will it work if I give it to someone else?
I had a NM respawn in a room after I mined a node. I didn't have to switch floors. Has anyone had one respawn just by standing in the room for awhile?
>>577139006yeah it will. everyone who buffs should eat an Alice for +1 buff and debuff turn, making her extremely sought after currency. The only difference is that it's quicker for alice to gain the +2 turn upgrade by leveling it up herself (and the minor MP increase)
>>577031070yay
>>577140141good job swopipi>lvl 28 maskwait a minute
>>577140420the first time went like this
>>577139298I've had them spawn while I'm clearing 5F. I figured it must test the current state on every action (mining/chests/encounters).
>>577141829we need a meta neutral woman for anni
>>577141934My money is on the anni bitch being a superpowered ranger.
>>577142198Finally, it's time for the 2 hit bow... (it has its own second arrow passive or something)
>>577142665Why stop at 2, let's go for 3 hit with def pen passive and the anni adventurer will be Yuzu nine tails alt with an OP single target skill and passive will be aoe foxfire.
>>577139006For alice>Level 1 is 1 extra turn for every buff/bebuff>Level 3 is 2 turns>Level 5 is 3 turns>Level 7 adds 4 turns, in general meaning any buff she applies last for double the length it would for most chartactersFor everyone else>Get an extra turn for your WotW, Astral break, whatever at level 1>Get the second turn at level 5>That's itProbably the best inherit in the game honestly.
you think iroha and sir tenzen... you know...?
>>577144098yes his balls touch her anus while he is mating pressing hernext question
>>577144098Tenzen is a turboautist who had to get drugged and tied up and raped by his wife in order for Iroha to even be born, so no.
>>577144406giwtwm
>>577144098He rides her spear all night long, yes.
>>577143816>>577139554thxI'm more interested in how does the manacost increase work for inheritdescription looks like a bad translation
>>577145097mp + passives in this game is dogshit. It's not really worth bothering most of the time unless it's something you can get for free. Likely single degit increases (and on the low end of single digits too). If you're new and feeling like you are lacking in mp, that's just how the early game is like. Once you get to level 30-40+ your mages will start having fat enough mp pools to actually sustain their casting needs
When does a /wizg/ swo become a /wizg/ gwo?
>>577145097It doesn't increase the cost of any spell. It gives the user more maximum MP. Alice gets between 10 and 34 depending on the level, anyone else gets 0 to 20.
>>577145401once you finish A4 and start doing endgame farms in the usual holes, and also adopt one of the schizo personalities in the thread (buttholes, nyontents, alignmentkeking, benis(and other characters) posting)
nyontents
What if we get Dark Knight Gillion alt with the collab? Instead of a waifu skin I mean.
When are we gonna kill elmon off so we can make her playable? >>577146035Gillion alt is clearly being saved for the drakengard collab.
>>577146035not happenings swo unless it's a micro bikini dark knight GillionI'd roll for him
>>577146145>dressed for the seasonI didn't read that...
>>577146145what even is the seasonit's a bit late for a summer alt
>>577146471This is the time of year jap gacha do summer alts, FGO for instance always does summer around this time.
>>577146471Summer doesnt end till late september
>>577146471swo we got summer yeka and chloe last year in august too
What are even the summer alts? Chloe and Debra?
>>577146685Elise and Shelirionachit's elf season
>>577146804Touch the ears, grip ears, chew the ears.
>>577146804elves are locked to christmas because santa's little helpers
>>577146949elves can cum just from having their ears stimulated
>>577147075So can I.
>>577147203maybe youre an elf too
>>577146685Sheli need to be the Halloween alt, I WANT HER WHIT A GIGANTIC WITCH HAT!
>>577147270Impossible, I'm too hairy. I'm like a dorf but not short.
>>577147337gigantic witch hat (sun hat)
tiny hats>big hats
>>577147515This is the worst post in the history of the universe.
>>577147515What are your opinions on noses?
>>577147515gay
>>577147515jewish hands wrote this
>>577147515Get this filfthy Irish man out of here
>>577147515kwo... (kippah warped one)
I’m out of fragments…
finally finished the relic grind. started the collab a week late, but nolifed it this weeknow to mine 6 FAS, and maybe remake the relic greatsword but i'll wait until patch to see if something changes
it's crazy how they aren't handing out at least 1 guaranteed FAS in this event with how many shit you want to fas
>start the event now (dont really care about the grind so im fine being late)>notice abundance of rabbits on the first floor of the collab dungeon>get the quest to acquire barley and rabbit meat>go back to the collab dungeon to double dip on the good junk drops and the rabbit spawns>not a single one spawned on the entirety of the first floorI'm so angry that I have rape Lulu
>enter 8demon roomno aggro>move up to my markerno aggro>8demon turning their back to me 2 tiles awayno aggro>take 2 steps up to ambush itENTIRE FUCKING ROOM LINKS AGGRO HALF A SECOND BEFORE THE COMBAT FADEOUT
Lfas is real! Also NM spawn is fucking awful today, I've been making laps from zone 1 harken to zone 5 for hours and managed to find only one.
>>577146685>>577146804Grillmaster GerulfBikini barmaid BibiCryptkeeper Red BeardBlack Cat Barbara
>>577153681Fundoshi Kiriha
>>577154643They should have an in-game event celebrating the Eastern customs, so we can fundoshi Rinne, Yuzu etc
>>577155034My generic ninja is named Fundoshi.
What other gachas is /wizg/ playing right now? Looking for some other games to try out.
>>577156553I'm playing Dragon Quest Smash/Grow.it's not good.
>>577156553Trickcal
>>577133179bow still has 2h bonus no? losing wotw sucks but either way I guess acc makes the most sense with ranger MC coming sooner than later this is clearly for backline MC I would think so it's either bow or spear
>>577156553Not worth it. I dropped everything else I was playing before I picked up this game again. It's literally the only gacha that doesn't suck dick and that's because it's a normal dungeon crawler with tacked on gacha.
>>577156553only limbusevery other gacha sucks
>>577156553I do not have it in me to play multiple games that have daily missions. I have liked other gachas, MMOs, and even shooters that had them, I've taken hiatus from Daphne to play them, but I drop them when I find a new one or come back to an old one as I currently have with this game. It's not even a principled thing. Like I tell myself I can do 2 games and I just always forget and fall off.
>>577158232You played one you played them all
>>577156553I play chink gachas because I don't have to worry about them going belly upI'd like to play Suikoden but they didn't do a synchronous global launch so it's probably going to DIE
>>577156553Morimens
>>577156553BA, BD2but I wouldn't call it "playing"it's just dailies, VN stories, and PNG collecting
>>577156553I play uma and the 2 arknights gameand BA up until very recently
>>577158670>BA>BD2can you not decide between cunny and adult women?
>>577156553I got tired of waiting for BTDE so I started Horizon Walker.
>>577156553I play Arknights twice...On Global and Chinese server.
>>577158831two cakes
>>577158831can a man just not admire the female form in its entirety?
>>577156553Im waiting on global for suikoden but im considering playing it in nip
>>577157424>Doing a Basic InstinctNice.
another day, another shadow lord kill.
>>577156553I play Another Eden and I'm planning to play Suikoden when it comes out for global
>There's a tension in the air.>It's rather frightening.
>>577156553FGO out of sunk cost fallacy. The syory has never been good btw. Limbus because I'm a lobotomyfag from nearly a decade ago. Wizardry is the only one I've spent money on lmao.
>Have 3 copies of each collab character>Actually have multiple copies of several legendary adventurers. Like 5 of Abenius>Don't want to use any of them for anything because that invites the possibility that I use them "wrong" or in a way I will regret>The one and only legendary inherit I've done is to give a copy of Alice to Savia for the funny opening counters>Don't even want to merge the alt Alice I have onto my main one who stays in my party all the time because what if I get one with better BP/IV later?At least I have a bunch of neat stuff just in case I ever stop being so retarded
>>577156553Only GFL2. Mostly for story, gameplay is boring (although there's hard mode for those who willing to engage with it) but most of it can be automated so burnout fairly low.
>>577164228Abenius just wait for a STR IV and then Discipline her. Get her passive to lvl 3 with scrolls.
>>577164228Just discipline. It is always a good option, never a great option. The increase is pretty small but it's there for you all the time forever no matter what attacks you are using at what level. Also this game works in small increments. The difference between a +20 Ebonsteel sword and a +20 Silver sword is like 23 points. So if you can get a couple levels of discipline you're making more progress than numbers like "+4 attack" might make you feel.
>>577164453>Get her passive to lvl 3 with scrolls.do not actually do that, it's not worth itit's not going to help you much against tough encounters, only with autoand why the fuck would you have trouble autoing in this game
>>577164228Keep holding on to them. You can clear all abysses without any inherits or disciplines, it's perfectly fine to just take your time.
>>577165413breakpoints. It's a shame it's not a merged benis but farming is the name of the game and lvl 3 is usually good enough to start oneshotting enemies. If you farm better you get better gear to do the hard fights. The "hard" fights never really needs you to pump skill levels that much, just know what you're doing. If you're talking about whale fights then nothing matters until you're d9 full inherits on everythingrealistically, there are very few scroll worthy skills in the game and benis flash is one of them
Bread maker…
>Benis FLASH>Tonberry counterattacks with a 1800 grudgeDo not fall for the Benis meme!!
>>577167409It's not her fault its flash not having a toggle
>>577167409>>577167508This happened to me twice already with the three tonberries. They should not be allowed to counterattack out-of-turn actions.
>>577167736Nah stop being a metacuck
when sheli triggers her inherit I like to spin around on my chair and say "it is fated"am i the only one who does autistic stuff like that while playing?when i successfully revive a party member i like to make a fist and pull it towards myself
Man, this event is pretty cool. I hope we get more of this from future collabs.
>>577169958Well considering this is the first actual well done event we've gotten from drecum, better now than never. Hopefully this is a sign that any future collabs will actually be well made.
my free prishe has 90 fortitudeforever bricked
>>577170214lol lmao
>>577170351disgusting i will never comprehend footfags
Is there a named adventure that is considered bad for inherits that I can dismiss? I'm desperate for tags.
>>577171740>>577171740>>577171740
>>577170753I like feet but that picture is vile.
>>577168536I don't spin in my chair or anything but I do out loud say things to my party like "Get 'im!" or like if they hit a big juicy sure hit or dodge a scary move I'll tell them "Good fucking jub, dude." I do get kinda autistic about right hand revivals just to improve my own chance of success where like I find the rhythm and close my eyes and take a deep breath but that's less RP and more practical.
