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Jarhombus!
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Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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i claim the thread in the name of the economic zone.
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>>576934102
Hooman!
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I am going to call 112 (EU version of 911) and tell them to get the fuck in here or I will take 20 ibuprofen and kill myself because I just got my life in something resembling order and I do not want no military faggots to fuck it up by drafting my mentally ill ass
Wish me luck, anons!
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ralsei butt
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>>576934242
What? What what what? What's happening? Why would you be drafted???
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i just hit 25 squats while carrying my 38 pound cousin
ow ow ow that was too many now i’m shaking going down the stairs
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i love my sissy wife
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i really hate the fact that there will be no more hidden bosses
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maybe in the future, we can fix everything and then ramb and eram could hold hands and… maybe… kiss? °~°
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>>576934242
what country
>>576934363
bro your seam?
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HOPES ANDO DREAMS
HOPES ANDO DREAMS
HOPES ANDO DREAMS
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>>576934363
>i really hate the fact that there will be no more hidden bosses
just because there wont be more shadow crystals doesn't mean there wont be more hidden bosses.
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>>576934309
we love each other too
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>>576934363
there'll be hidden bosses but there won't be any more shadow crystals
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>>576934404
come on.
why would he fight us?
he's gucci, he's our pal.
right?
what motive could he pursue that he would keep things from us when we have already surpassed all his expectations time and time again?
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>>576934056
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>>576934456
>>576934456
All hidden bosses were about or for the shadow crystals and the need for hidden bosses disappears with you having all of them.
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>>576934506
it would be chekhov’s gun to have this powerful mage who defeated jevil and never have him fight
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>>576934325
I LOVE UNDERBOOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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There are going to be hard bosses in the next two Chapters, guys. Like, this isn't even a question, really. I'm just excited to see what we're doing with Seam. We're going to gather together shards of broken dreams, reforge and purify them into a gem of absolute HOPE. That shit sounds aweseome. What are we going to do with something that powerful?
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>>576934636
it would be a chekhov's gun if it were foreshadowed in any capacity in some way.
if that were so, i would agree.

here's a fun idea: seam was the ralsei of the previous heroes. he will fight you when they return. their timeline against yours.
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>>576934626
pure crystal chapter 6 and no need for chapter 7 to have one because it's the end of the game.
the shadow crystals are a retcon anyway, the secret bosses came first.
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>>576934829
>retcon
THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT MEAAAAAAAAAAANSSSSSS
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>>576934804
what previous heroes?
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>>576934626
there was the mikes secret boss
and the trash gang secret boss
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>>576934864
>is a storytelling tool used in fiction to change, add to, or remove previously established facts, events, or character backgrounds.
the shadow crystals are a retcon. they didn't exist and then toby came up with the idea for them and added them to the game including retroactively jevil.
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>>576934729
the next three chapters.
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>>576934459
hi kris
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sometimes I draw stuff even I don't understand
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ermmm trash gang wasn’t secret
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>>576934995
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>576934995
If the crystals weren't part of the original fever dream does that mean they're not really important?
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>>576934906
i fought the weird OC things but i didnt play the trash gang.
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>>576935101
they're probably not. toby had the idea for the secret bosses first and then decided that he probably needed a cool reward for the player for beating them all.
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>The Girl wished friends. All her life, she had spent wandering from town to town, living in empty, dingy departments, never having a place to belong. Because of you, she found people who cared for her, true companions, a place she could call 'home'. Thank you for watching her dream.
>The angel wished for power. She spent her life trudging on the same tired path, doing what others always expected of her, always obeying. Thanks to you, she was able to escape the boundaries of fate, and feel stronger than she ever had before. Thank you for watching her dream.
>The cage wished for freedom. An empty vessel, their life was defined by the machinations of others. They had never felt worthy to act on their own desires, always sacrificing their own happiness for those around them. Thanks to you, they finally felt as if their choices mattered. Thank you for watching their dream
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>>576935231
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Some of you need to go to /cm/ and post pictures there
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I love fish
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>>576935025
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>>576934729
I was gonna be funny and say "well TOO BAD because Kris hid the crystals from us and is using the crystals on their own" but then I remember Seam keeps the crystals on himself.

The Shadow Crystals will have SOMETHING to do with Freedom. They HAVE to. Too much setup with that.

>Kris... oh... Kris...
>Is it fun, Kris?
>Playing around like this...
>That's why you're searching for them, aren't you?
>The SHADOW CRYSTALs...
>... and the SHADOW MANTLE that I'm holding!
>Do you honestly think it'll get you what you want...?

Shadow Crystals alone won't be enough to get what we want.
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>>576934886
A Human, A Monster and a Prince ... and an Angel.

Kris, Susie, Ralsei, Noelle
Kris, Asriel, Seam, Dess.
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my child
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What was the purpose of the Pink / Ghost fight?
>Hey look Kris is their own person too but you need to collab or else they ded
We already knew this???
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>>576935658
Anon, the monster was Ralsei's explanation of the prophecy. The real hero is the Girl with Hope Crossed on Her Heart
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>>576935649
>>Do you honestly think it'll get you what you want...?
>cue Kris trying to scalp Seam
>"WAIT THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT~"
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>>576935721
To establish it's also a trans allegory
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>>576935629
do you think they'll be canon
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>>576934629
>>576935603
's a good fish.
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http://poal.me/wjpas5
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>>576935692
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>>576935721
There is a very substantial amount of people who believed we would get our vessel back and 1v1 Kris
Pink is also yet more chapter 5 foreshadowing that this story will not have a happy ending
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>>576935721
Dude she represents Kris and the player yes but also all the Flowers and is intimately connected to Spamton and Mettaton and the game's overarching themes of freedom and self-determination
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Deltarune's story will officially end on Chapter 6 going by Gerson's dialogue regarding the Lord of the Hammer. Chapter 7 will be the youths picking up the white pen of hope and writing a new one. Expect everything to go to hell at the end of chapter 6.
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>>576935649
It's weird how Kris is also looking for them, according to ERAM.

Kris is impressive ngl, they're working with fun gang, working with the knight, setting things up for future chapters, dealing with players shenanigans and still has time for their personal projects. I can barely follow 2 projects at a time.
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>>576935740
>ralsei - whom dedicated his life to the prophecy is just wrong because he just is!
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>>576935721
>>576935880
Oh and is also obviously connected to all the cat/mouse stuff that hasn't been explained
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>>576935692
Hey there little guy!
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>>576935870
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>>576935831
I think an open friendship-type ending is more plausible, and I'd be fine with that. If the ship became canon, it'd be a pleasant surprise, but I don't fully trust Toby's romance writing, to be honest.
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>>576935842
In the original 2018 Chapter 1 demo, Shadow Crystals did not exist; they were only added in 2021 with the Chapter 1&2 demo, which retroactively added them to Chapter 1.
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i want more of this little pairing but i cant find any
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>>576935969
Ralsei explicitly wasn't telling the full story in chapter 1. This was basically the entire plot of chapter 4. The real heroes are the cage, the girl, and the prince lost in the dark. Did you even play chapter 4?
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>>576936031
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>>576935842
ok i found it, patchnote 1.07 of 1&2 gives you the crystal, NOT survey prog
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>>576935721
>hey, [Kris/(You)], [(You)/Kris] is doing stuff that seems really counterproductive and unreasonable, but if you wanna get through this and reach a happy ending, you need to trust them and give them some leeway
it's reinforcing a sentiment that the game tells you multiple times in the chapter (TRUST EACH OTHER), which given how a good number of people seem to regard kris, honestly might not have been enough and toby may have had to get a neon sign to do it
beyond that, pink is also susie (maddie is a lightner that wants to disappear into the dark because life is better there) and ralsei (mew mew is a darkner that is trying to be its own person)
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>>576935721
>We already knew this???
There's a certain crowd (mainly the you're genocides folks that want Kris to kill everyone in hometown) that still sees Kris as an extension to the player
Since these people overlap with the sekrit boss crowd and constitute the majority Tobias felt it necessary to point it out once again so that they won't get mad when Kris will finally do whatever they want
But they'll ignore it regardless and just go weird route lel
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>>576936183
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>>576936104
>Flowery being the Rouxls to Blue and Yellow
History repeats
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>>576935969
>* Hey, what're these... word things we keep seeing?
>* That's...
>* ... the prophecy, Susie.
>* Isn't this... kinda different from the prophecy you told us?
>* ... Yes, I...
>* ... My version was... more of... a summary
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>>576936108
agreed, he isn't but you can't just dismiss what he said.
the prophecy is not in contradiction with what ralsei said.
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>>576936218
>it's reinforcing a sentiment that the game tells you multiple times in the chapter (TRUST EACH OTHER)
literally hallucinating the game
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>>576936419
>literally the entirety of the ralsei onsen
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>>576936324
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Pink is actually a really powerful affirmative statement about the role that fiction and self-insertion can have on someone's journey of self-discovery and actualization. Yes wanting to be an "animated catgirl" is kind of weird, sure, but through this fantasy Maddie has finally begun to thrive and come out of her self-imposed isolation as a hikikomori. And I know you guys think the trans allegory angle is cringe or whatever but like, think about all the trans women with anime and cartoon avatars and stuff. Yeah, sure, maybe it's cringe, but those people are through that fantasy and assumed persona finally able to express their true selves in an important way. The whole "anti-escapism" angle that people read into Deltarune is just wrong. The point has always been for light and dark to exist in BALANCE, feeding and driving each other forward. The mission has never been to seal all the Fountains and banish all the darkness forever. In fact, the whole "Angel's Heaven" thing smacks of light, doesn't it? An excess of light and a rigid refusal to dream is just as bad as a complete escape into fantasy.
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>>576935721
foreshadowing kris impregnating the vessel theory
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>>576935721
>What was the purpose of the Pink / Ghost fight?
to remind you that ghosts can possess bodies, because mettaton is the knight
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>>576936346
still, not a lie.
all things he said are represented in the prophecy in some way.
if anything, ralsei explained more than the panels ever have.
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>>576934629
>>576934629
I'd really love some fish right now
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>>576936484
hid
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What if the Real Angel from the Original Prophecy before Gaster romhacked the world shows up and blows up Gaster for changing its religion
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>>576936591
DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THE GAME OR NOT!!!
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>>576935991
Kris is the mouse!
Noelle is the cheese!

All part of cheese theory
https://old.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/1r54509/knowing_the_mouse_might_one_day_get_the_cheese_a/
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>>576936037
i feel you
i'm also hoping for a vague could be friends, could be more situation and definitely lightworld ral (somehow...)
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all of my friends are dark
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themes and such
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>>576936218
In which chapter do you see trust as a theme? Or that the lesson is you have to trust Kris.

Like I get in the Mew Mew fight the lesson is that the ghost and Mew Mew have to agree to let Mew Mew do whatever stupid thing she wants, and the ghost has to go along with it, but that's not even a GREAT trust lesson because it's more about the ghost giving up their own agency to avoid getting ejected from the body. The lesson is more like you can't have everything you want.

You COULD interpret it as a lesson of trust, but really, in spite of the constant begging otherwise, ch5 is really weak and doesn't fit amazingly with the rest of the game. Even its battle mechanics are sort of jank.
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>>576936750
omg theyre so kyoot!!! ^^
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I think the Hammer of Justice is structurally the most dysfunctional secret boss that kinda messes with the premise too much
He's so important to the themes of the story and Susie's character arc it's absurd his battle is technically optional like the story doesn't even work properly if you don't fight him
It's also set early in the chapter compared to all the other bosses which are either before the end or at the very end itself of the chapter hence it doesn't give a strong sense of cherry on top accomplishment like the others do
I'd say the Chapter 3 mantle game + fighting the Knight felt like much better ways of twisting the secret boss formula still keeping the essence you're doing an optional unexpected thing
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>>576936727
i love this crazy cat lady
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>>576936462
ralsei onsen refers to kris and ralsei its got nothing to do with the player
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>>576936734
>the ghost and Mew Mew have to agree to let Mew Mew do whatever stupid thing she wants, and the ghost has to go along with it, but that's not even a GREAT trust lesson because it's more about the ghost giving up their own agency to avoid getting ejected from the body. The lesson is more like you can't have everything you want.

how the hell did you take that from it

it's a metaphor for not ignoring your own wants and feelings, like going for a walk on the beach
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https://youtu.be/aXT11coNvA8?t=830
>Talks about a theory someone has where there will be no secret boss in Chapter 6
>Spends the whole time talking about his idea for a FRIEND secret boss fight in Chapter 6
>Gives the theory 9/10
Is Spookydude retarded?
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>>576936704
>vague could be friends, could be more situation
Yeah, that seems like a likely scenario, unless some big sacrifice gets in the way
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>>576936734
not that anon but we're literally asked to trust Kris in this fucking chapter
did you button mash through the hot spring scene with Kris and Ralsei
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>>576936865
It still works without Gerson, but you'd be missing out on some really important character moments and hero's journey stuff. Gerson probably shouldn't be optional, though, you're right about that.
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Your reaction Kris is genuinely evil and isn't opening fountains out of some secret plan but just doing shit for the love of the game?
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>>576936962
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>>576937024
the alternative is to give the shadow crystal to ms mizzle which could have been funny but shes really a nothing character
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>>576936941
kind of.
i still support the idea of noelle melties for ch6
its the year of our lord MMXXVI, women can be insane too.
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chapter 6 spoilers
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single pixel distance from hatekissing erotic.....
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>>576937084
They would be 10x better as a character
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>>576936587
Whoops, I missed a reply >>576935836
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>>576936465
how does toby keep writing rapists accidentally? there's like half a dozen or more rapists, groomers or offenders in his game.
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>>576937084
>Thats my hero!!!
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do people still believe that ramb is eram?
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>>576937167
>accidentally
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>>576937129
Unf
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>>576937167
Try as he might, toby can't stop writing andrew hussie
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>>576937204
ramb werewire boss WHEN
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>>576937084
That'd be boring as fuck
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>>576937128
my wifes (male and female)
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>>576937084
IT WAS ME
IT WAS ME CHARA THE WHOLE TIME
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Kris hiding the packet of golden flower seeds in a tree hollow in the woods between chapters, and coming back to castle town at the start of ch6 to find mpreg Ralsei
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>>576936934
The ghost hates the stuff the body wants to do, though. Let's be real, does she really want to eat sand? That's the type of stuff the body is talking about doing. The ghost is really justified in not wanting to give the body autonomy because, as the ghost points out, the body is pretty stupid.

In the Kris/relationship, who is the stupid one? Possibly the player, I mean we'd stick Kris's head in a crocodile's mouth just to see what happens. Possibly Kris but we have no idea 3hat Kris is doing.

Ch5 is ass. I get that people follow the emotional urges its trying to convey and you can loosely interpret Pink as a message to "trust" or "work together", but people aren't largely coming away from it with that perspective because the ghost is an adult that doesn't want to date a teenage boy. The ghosts concerns are very reasonable and the body is very unreasonable.
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>>576937165
its okay, i get skipped a lot.
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>>576937237
the glue made me cackle

>>576937084
kris is too lame for that.
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>>576937204
I don't think people remember ramb in general
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>>576937367
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh my god this guy
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btw none of this would be happening if Catti wasn't a coward and didn't ditch Kris when it actually mattered
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>>576937325
my wifes (female and male) as well
i hope some of my silly ideas hold water and i get to see them have some semblance of chemistry (it doesn't need to be positive chemistry)
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>one thing will be clarified
>WETHER YOU ARE READY OR NOT
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>>576937084
With the rise of boring twist villains with a sad backstory, I kinda get why people want the fun "for the evulz" characters back, but honestly, most of those sucked too.
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>>576937445
No. Really. Are you walking away from the text having actually read it and having thought about it? Or did you feel the basic feelings it asks for and then moved on?

Because a lot of people do the latter and have all these interpretations of the chapter that I get "feel" correct, and maybe that is what's intended, but it's also weirdly not supported by what happens if you think about it. Other than having the body, how does the ghost benefit from letting the body date Kris or go eat sand? The body just gets rejected by Kris anyway - the body doesn't even get what it wants by ignoring the "brain" or "soul" or whatever the ghost is meant to represent.
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>>576937367
gee i wonder where else i have seen a body that will decay without input from the ghost where the ghost is the mostly reasonable person who is trying to prevent the body from doing dumb shit but who also keeps picking and making choices for the body that the body would never want to do
>but eating sand is stupid and it can get me sick! and i don't wanna date random people!
of course you don't, but the body wants to do that. so what are you gonna do, figure out how to work with the body or override control directly away from the body without telling it that you should also get a say in things? because the latter is pretty much what the body is already attempting to do, because it has existed without the ghost longer than it has existed with it
here, let me show you what's really going on
>but making fountains is stupid and it can get us all killed! and i don't wanna work with the knight!
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>>576937367
the point is that you have two parties forced into union with each other who find each other's motives incomprehensible. the eating sand on the beach shit is a joke. the friend dialogue shows us that the body actually knows quite a lot, and is keeping things secret from the ghost ot keep her safe. wow, is it possible that despite appearances there is a logic underlying Kris' actions which is actually good but we lack the information to fully understand!?
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>>576937665
very unexpected yet fitting crossover
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>>576937790
Characters who are evil just because need to be very charismatic with entertaining personalities that make up for a lack of a strong motivation
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>>576937204
I just honestly like to think it's some form of apparition of Seam. He possessed the cloak prior, has quite a heavy connection to all the five Shadow Crystals and he seems to be quite in the know about Kris.
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>>576937542
i can see noelle slowly becoming more and more of a piece of shit to ralsei, seeing him as a non-real person to do whatever makes her happy

Once he starts talmbout some "im sowwy noelle but rudy cant use dark worlds to cheat death, its not possible..." shes gonna lash out

I wonder if ch5 abort noelle would be more or actually LESS shitty towards him

Maybe she will reach a different breaking point but the ch5 abort scene made it feel like shes completely giving up on being anyhting but "Nice noelle that never hurts anyone or does anything drastic" that she'll just go with the motions and will barely be able to bring herself to give a shit about rudy or wanting a change
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>>576937793
>how does the ghost benefit from letting the body do what it wants
they stay united??? are you kidding me??? bro??? did you play the fight??? trying to subjugate the body led to the crazy green strings shit and lasers shooting out of their eyes
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>>576937859
crossover?
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>>576937937
Yeah, absolutely.
I think my favorite Disney villain has always been Gaston because he was charismatic, a complete cunt, but also kinda had an understandable motivation. Probably the best of both worlds.
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>>576938029
uhhh i meant *reference (?)
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>>576937380
Pardon me
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>>576936734
>If... I want us to be together...
>I want to be with you too, mew!
>If we just listen to each other...
>I know we can balance being together!

The story tells it's a balance but I do agree the way it's portrayed feels more in Pinks' favour than Maddies.
I always took the story to be a weird metaphor for the balncing the desires between the body and mind and how you should always keep it balance or else shit will be wack.
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>>576938102
i was asking what the reference is because i'm a noob
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Chapter 6 dojo boss lineup leaked:
Super Jevil (like Super Dimentio)
Spamton EX
Rambwire
Real Mike
Photoshop Flowery
Grandpa Semi
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>>576938137
Pink's primary motivation is to have the body. Being able to be part of that person is a big deal to her and makes her someone. The Darkner is already giving a lot just by letting her be there bro
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>>576937793
how does kris benefit from us making them have a nice dinner with susie
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>>576938148
nta but thanks for letting him know i didn't realize that's what you were asking
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>>576937818
Yeah the "friend" dialogue that got patched in later where the body rants about protein. This fucking chapter...

>>576937795
See, but Kris having mutually exclusive goals from our does not mean "trust". It means, at best, you have to tolerate losing agency over Kris to do whatever they want, knowing it will probably defy what you wanted.

LOOK at fucking Pink. The ghost doesn't want to date Kris, but she's forced to give in. The body then attempts to date Kris, which leads to both the body and ghost being humiliated together. They both fail and are now both unhappy.

IS that a moral of trust? You can interpret it that way, but I think the problem is chapter 5 was just a badly written chapter that missed a bunch of marks. I think you could also read this as implying that Kris is going to ruin everything for the both of you. Or maybe you're going to ruin things for Kris? Because maybe you're the stupid body and Kris is the smart one trying not to eat sand.
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Chapter 6 dojo:
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>>576938281
>it got patched in
so fucking what? god you're annoying
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>>576938148
it's https://youtu.be/7rqZC3Q9hxc?si=ckPL7zvMQtXFDead
the character (ruriko) does have some similarity to noelle
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why is kris leading susie to the shelter codes if kris doesn't want them found? is kris retarded?
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>>576938347
thank you for the wisdom
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>>576938281
I think you're just too autistic for the message the Pink fight was trying to convey and cannot let go of your exaggerated interpretation of the jokes
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Hmm I think Kris will go the Dreemurr way and kill themselves
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>>576938240
I meant PINK as in the mew mew doll and Maddie as in Mad Dummy
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>>576938375
>is kris retarded?
very much so
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>>576938413
the ghost wants the body, it means the world to her
she gets to possess it
things are definitely not stacked in the body's favor
she is giving a lot by allowing herself to be possessed
literally giving the ghost a sense of reality and significance
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noelle and ralsei really are vn heroines if you squint
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>>576938137
I think that's a way better take than trying to say it's about "trust". At the least, you can say Maddie gets to stay with the body by accepting she has to let go sometimes, but it still has a bad outcome for them because Maddie is right and the body is wrong. For Maddie to get what she wants, she had to take the good with the bad, she has to accept sometimes her body has to take over and be stupid.

Which is about as close as we can get it to the relationship between the player and Kris I guess, except the parallel probably won't make total sense until chapter 6 or 7 when it gets explained whatever we're fucking supposed to know.
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>>576938527
In the cafe scene, even though Maddie doesn't want to date Kris, Pink still wants to and so Maddie allows it.
How am I supposed to see that as balance?
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>>576938338
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Fave swallows you whole
digests you
and turns you into their ever burgeoning tit fat
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>>576938527
dont forget, that darkners already love serving lightners, and that a sense of purpose his the highest thing a lightner can bestow upon a darkner. pink is not only in use all the time, she is loved, wanted, and will never be thrown away.
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>>576938740
have you ever heard of GIVE AND TAKE? the whole fucking POINT? of the FIGHT???
>my body really wants this so I'm gonna give it to her because I respect her
is not
>ohhhhhhhhhhhh my fucking agency kris is stealing my agency ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
she still gets to be part of the total person and that means more to her than anything in the world
sometimes, she has to respect the other party's wishes even when she doesn't vibe with it
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>>576938740
Maddie has to do what Mew Mew wants or Mew Mew will kill them both of them in a violent, schizophrenic meltdown. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
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>>576938281
>It means, at best, you have to tolerate losing agency over Kris to do whatever they want, knowing it will probably defy what you wanted
this goes both ways, Kris will have to tolerate losing agency to you so you can do whatever you want, knowing it will probably defy what they wanted
>The ghost doesn't want to date Kris, but she's forced to give in.
no problem here, terms agreed after her battle that the body gets to date and use the ghost's power for dating and the ghost agreed
>They both fail and are now both unhappy.
who gives a shit? kris had no real interest in pink, the date lasts less than a minute and the body seems to be happy in every single other instance she shows up in, it's just a normal regular date because she's mew mew from the animes. that's like getting mad over flowery making fun of ralsei because it means if you follow the rules you're a little pussy or something, you're taking it way out of proportion
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>>576938915
>pink
Ew
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>>576938247
you know what i just realized that kris did eat with susie in the diner scene. what's up with the kris no eat and is starving jokes/theories
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I will simply trust in Toby's writing skills because we've been told that Pink is coming to CastleTown so we're getting more content from her that'll explain why she's Like That compared to every other crystal holder. Also Mew Mew has been a Kris parallel since the start of Undertale and in the borders for the Mad Mew Mew fight we see 2 of her and one of them is grey like her ghost form in DR so he's wanted her to be the ch5 SB for a very long time.
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>>576938771
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>>576938915
>pink
Yum
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>>576938125
no court, no sentence, nor crime.
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>>576938990
I had fun with that theory, but yeah, it's kinda debunked.
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>>576939084
Big feesh
Smol gote
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i like the message behind the mew mew fight but i hate the character so fucking much
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>>576939054
its interesting, i wonder what maddie would have been instead if toby didnt go with the anime theme.
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>>576938915
>pinktroon poal
no thanks
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>>576939164
I hate both
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>>576939164
how dude
she's mad dummy with big boobies, cat ears and BPD
greatest faps of my life
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>>576938905
Okay, but I'm mainly arguing it's not a moral of trust. Mew Mew could have trusted Maddie to begin with and Maddie was right. Dating Kris was a stupid idea.

It doesn't help that Pink comes out of nowhere as a fucking joke boss with zero real connection to anything.

The point is, it doesn't feel like there's a strong theme of "trust" throughout the game. Pink, the optional spite boss that laughs at you for wanting a cool battle, is the only support for that and for all we know she's just a weak rehash of the lessons we learned from Spamton except she demonstrates you can keep your ass together if you accept the less than ideal situation instead of trying to get the best possible one.
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I think Ralsei could have worked as an imaginary dragon friend instead of an imaginary goat bro.
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why the fuck are chapter 5 haters like this
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>>576939253
>boobs and BPD so most women
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>>576939160
can't tell if just super masculine undyne or if genderbent undyne
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>>576939323
>Nah bro...
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>>576939164
i didn't care for the message and i'm pretty apathetic on mew herself. but do you really hate mew or do you just hate her posters
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>>576939337
they cannot remember any of the previous chapters. i believe this
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>>576939253
NTA but she dresses like a four year old and acts like one, too. I don't get why anyone draws porn of her either, I do not see the sex appeal at all.
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how’s the wb lag
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>>576934485
My wife is in this pic
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>>576939323
two dragons wouldn't have worked susie is right there
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>>576939253
who doesn't have bpd in this game
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>>576939221
>wanting to have sex with women makes you a troon
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>>576938873
I get what you're saying, the game does say that Pink can't go on dates and shit on her on, she needs Maddie for it. It's strangely another Kris parallel in that sense since it seems Kris is decaying without us.

and yes there is a give and take but I can't help but feel Maddie gives more than she takes from Pink, although I guess that's because Maddie doesn't ask for much other than the Body.
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>>576939253
I never liked mad dummy or mew mew in undertale in the first place
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>>576939381
Still a gal
Just really beeg feesh
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>>576939526
Of COURSE it's him
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>>576939467
Yeah that's why people keep talking about how chapter 2 and 4 are so much better. Durrrrrrrrr!
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>>576939526
unironically yes
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Deltarune 2: Everyone’s a Dragon Now Fuck You
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>>576939471
you are not into cat girls and so you see her in this manner
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>>576939518
>two dragons wouldn't have worked
Actually the limit is three. Or four.
Definitely not five, that's too many.
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>>576939445
i don't care about the posters, i hate that a cool fight was wasted on the lmao vocaloid anime trope parody non character
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>>576939467
i love 4 desu and i was thinking of 4 while playing 5. 5 didn't match up. then i replayed 1 2 and 3 and i realized the only chapter 5 beat when all aspects of deltarune are considered (gameplay, characters, story, lore reveals, etc.) was 1
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>>576939471
You’re right, it’s just that anime coomers can’t handle the truth
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https://x.com/Botgotshot/status/2086452441814561143
This fandom doesn't know how to write fanfiction at all man
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>>576939583
underrated
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>>576939253
put all of those on mad dummy then
fuck anime women
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>>576939636
It's not that she's a cat girl. It's that she shows up to tantrum at you and that all she is. You just field her stupid meltdown and she barely registers anything.
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>>576939687
fair. yeah it is sad to think our final shadow crystal holdier is mew, hopefully future secret bosses are way cooler
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>>576939761
that's cave story
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>>576939572
>when you hate trannies but you lowkey get mew mew.
toby is a genius when he isn't a hack.
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Please answer this simple question for me.
https://poal.me/pdh63n
https://poal.me/pdh63n
https://poal.me/pdh63n
https://poal.me/pdh63n
https://poal.me/pdh63n
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>>576939842
Careful kraut, that sounds dangerously like it is close to compassion and understanding for the gays.
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Mew Mew is a character who knows far more than they should and doesn't tell anyone, Maddie is someone who doesn't know shit because she just got here and isn't able to learn anything because her body prevents it. This is a subtle nod to how Kris is a fucking bitch who won't tell anyone what happened and what they're actually doing or why they're doing anything, hurting everyone around them and also annoying the person who just started possessing them 4 days ago.
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>>576939826
YOUR FUCKING CAVE STORY
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>>576939761
I miss MungZan so much
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Mewmew’s squirting and gassy butthole~
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I FUCKED UP THE POAL, WAIT
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>>576939956
>doesn't include gays, lesbians and bi in a utg poal
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does Pink slit her wrists and blame you for it
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bad news gang
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this is a bi genocide
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>>576939842
Born to have magical adventures
But the only magical thing is the fact your liver's still going
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>>576939956
I hate pink as a chaser because I'm biased against anime
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>>576940101
I MEANT TO I FUCKED UP THE POAL
MY LIFE IS OVER
IT'S FUCKING OVER
JUST FUCKING SHOOT ME I'M A CRIMINELL
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>>576939278
>Mew Mew could have trusted Maddie to begin with and Maddie was right. Dating Kris was a stupid idea.
yeah, but it literally doesn't matter because nothing bad happened, you're treating this like it's some oh so horrible thing that could have been prevented by maddie taking control when in reality it's pink being stupid on her own and maddie allowing her to be stupid and fail because it's okay to be stupid and fail at something that doesn't matter at all. if pink was trying to kill kris, that'd be an entirely different scenario, at that point then the body would have to accept maddie's decision not to kill kris, it's only fair and allowed because maddie allows the body to do other dumb shit like the kris date. i do not know how this is so hard to understand, the theme of trust is right there, trust alone doesn't mean everything will go right forever all the time it just means trust man
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>>576939337
They're going through the CoD cycle.
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>>576940131
She was trying to do a Naruto thing
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>>576940145
he needs to learn to stop posting
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>>576940059
What would a butthole squirt?
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>>576940145
>Tim Fortnite
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>>576940145
Fortnite is the ultimate crossover game I will never play which sucks, wish it was like Roblox or osmething
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>>576939956
I’m ‘bisexual and I want be Mewmew’s bottom’ isn’t an option, so I’m putting it here
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>>576939965
Ugh. Can we please not pretend that Mew Mew secretly has a ton of depth just because she natters about eggs and cats for a little bit?

Kris is a bitch and that parallel does seem right, but we can also just leave this at "Mew Mew" is a stupid bitch. If she does know something she didn't share any of that knowledge in a useful way.

>I know things about eggs only some people know

God dammit. Fucking chapter 5. Fucking Asgore. Fuck it all, so annoying.
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>>576939778
lovely boy
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>it's a "shallow criticism of mew mew the best chapter 5 character" thread
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>>576940309
very strange behavior
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Guys. Guys I'm fixing the poal. Please be patient. I'm sorry. I'm fucking SORRY
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>>576940309
We don't know how good we had it with Undertale, I'm telling you
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wait if queen and tenna and retinue can just live in castle town why cant the flowers?
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can we have a thread where we draw dragons like the epic deltarune book how to draw dragons
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>>576940206
I'm saying Maddie was right. She didn't want to date Kris and then she was right, it was a stupid idea. If the game was wanting to send a message that, oh, you have to have balance or show trust, then it kinda fucked it up here because the body is stupid and should have let Maddie pilot.
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>>576939493
Blue?
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FIXED POAL
https://poal.me/697tzq
https://poal.me/697tzq
https://poal.me/697tzq
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>>576940448
it's just chapter 5
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>>576940572
FUCK YOU I JUST FIXED IT MYSELF ANSWER MINE
https://poal.me/5tpck2
https://poal.me/5tpck2
https://poal.me/5tpck2
https://poal.me/5tpck2
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Mew Mew's date with Kris going poorly is a metaphor for Krusie failing because Mew Mew (and Susie) actually loves me (cool, suave, heart-shaped) and not Kris (loser)
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>>576940448
It's funny listening to azzypedos whine about the game considering nobody likes them, nobody likes what they post, and nobody likes that they are freely walking around outside of a jail cell.
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>>576940448
i smooch he
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>>576940718
Not if he smooch u first, nyon~
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why the fuck does toby associated with mr materia music or whatever
this man seems like an actual simpleton why the hell would i want him managing my ip?????
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I thought Mew Mew was about rape
the body likes it but the mind hates it
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>>576940592
It really is. It really is just chapter 5. Everything was going was so great, and then somehow instead of being a major chapter, we got Pink, and the flowers, and That Horrible Day.

The thing that made me the most angry about Toby's newslater is him insisting this was "really fun" chapter. Because it wasn't fpvery fun if you've been playing the game for the story.
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nobody noticed my stealth thread
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>>576940810
>F1NALLY
>TH3 [Smooth taste of} RELIEF
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>>576940679
i don't care about them. a pedo and his cabal run the united states, some gay guy/fujo who barely goes outside and just posts easily filtered asriel images on 4chan is not of any concern to me
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chapter 5 had so many problems like… umm… let me think…
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>>576940145
He should shut up & stop embarrassing himself & Toby with these tweets.
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>>576940309
mew mew posting trips me out for this reason. she has 2 personality traits max. seeing people here get really unrealistic about her writing, which is shallow, and her potential for further relevancy irritates me. she's a goofy cat girl glup shitto dude she isn't an actual character, you're just projecting
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I didn't like chapter 5 and found the flowers annoying you can't rhetoric fun into my heart fuck you
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i want to draw but my kitty cat is in the way!!!
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>>576940810
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>>576940916
Bullet grazing mechanics were totally fucked for some reason.
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PINK POISONED OUR WATER SUPPLY, BURNED OUR CROPS AND SET A PLAGUE UNTO OUR HOUSES
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Are we all on the same page on that we parallel Mewmew first and Maddie second
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>>576940793
Toby can't sign a new contract because his wrists are broken so he's stuck with them
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we had it so good with Spamton and never knew it
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>>576941012
maybe that was intentional because the two big fights were based on filling tp?
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>>576940993
Erase the cat
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Spamton is worse than Jevil and Pink.
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>wow, what a cute character
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>>576941017
Pink pegged me with her baton.
Her baton!
HER BATON!
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>>576941017
>PINK POISONED OUR WATER SUPPLY
So that's where the breasts came from
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>>576941125
truke
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>>576941215
I still can't get over the movement of her hand here
Why is she teasing me like that
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>>576940984
i agree
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>>576941170
The grazing mechanics were fucked in a lot of places.

Honestly this chapter chapter is completely whacked out. It feels like a lot of things went wrong under the hood and the writing is only the most noticeable malfunction.
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>>576941125
you'll notice spamton is still getting cool surreal sovful fanart to this day whereas half of mew art is sexy pinups or memes
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>>576941125
I always had a hunch Spamton wasn't gonna be surpassed by the later chapters. Gerson came pretty close as a character goes but he obviously didn't get the same fan treatment
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>>576941319
The droopy leaves make him oddly endearing
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>dude SOVL
mew mew won
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>>576941319
link
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>>576934229
How are you finding these thumbnails? Admittedly can't find full image with my skim on the trinity. Just weird that while cute its also small.
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Spamton is too much of a downer/sinister charater for me to love him the way I do the others.
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>>576941383
Spamton being a total loony who it winds up is right about absolutely everything just makes him lovable anew over and over again.
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>>576941456
I love him precisely because he's such a cartoony scumbag
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>>576941383
>be gerson
>be just one guy
>hardgigaultramog both the chapter mentor and secret boss that came after you
how does he do it
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>>576941175
My wife, my wife, my wife, my wife and my wife is in this pic
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>>576941567
That's a retarded 20 year old who looks like a child and that implies a lot about who you are as a person.
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the one last adventure chapter should've been bittersweet instead of lolsorandom slop
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>>576941319
finally somebody else who didn’t give ralsei the ice-e
i want his room to be good and not just a gag
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i wonder if you keep tenna in castle town, he'll eventually break and cry and tell susie how much of a traitor kris is.
cuz he's the only one who knows kris is working with the knight and kris asked them to help kidnap their MOM for the knight. you'd think he'd talk about it
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>>576941567
What a coincidence! That looks just like my wife!
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>>576941319
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>>576941751
He still needs two ladders though.
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>>576941819
I love them
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>>576941801
tenna might have the shock collar that spamton wears to keep him from talking about the knight
pink may also have something like that because she couldn’t say much about the cats
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>>576941697
Ermmmm you don’t get it the literally who colorful flower gimmick cartoon characters saying goodbye was literally the most emotional part of the entire game!!!!
Previously introduced relevant characters? lol who?
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>>576941843
I have to appreciate this author puts more effort into giving Flowery some actual flower traits, since the game pretty much didn't do that at all.
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>>576941697
I found it bittersweet
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>>576941017
Oh no, I’m becoming a Noelle!!!11!
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>>576936218
Not really responding to you and more (you)r the most relevant to my two cents of the situation. I think a lot of people might be getting caught up because unlike most other secret bosses (pretty much Jevil only), no one, in-universe cares. Ralsei gives some platitude to the concept but we obviously see it go nowhere (at least at present, who knows maybe Ch6 will assume the player fought the dummy regardless of if they actually did) when Kris' most emotive response is to tell the dolls to peace off, which I take as Kris fully rejecting what they intend. I also think the differences between us and maddie isn't helping, Maddie has choice on the doll she wants to posses, we did for our vessel before having it robbed (losing it after making the choice is different than making the choice and never getting to live with it).
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>>576934404
>what country
Shittuania, also known as Lithuania
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>>576941843
>>576941429
https://x.com/RaisaDrawz/status/2086456236275613865
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>>576941907
You can visibly watch the seethe coming off this post like steam on a cold day.
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I don't really understand which path or tone Toby wants to take with the game's “Meta” storyline, I mean, imagine that Susie meets Weird Route Noelle
>“Susie, don't you get it? WE ARE NPCs in a video game; we have to escape our fate.”
>“Oh yeah, if you press ‘Rude Buster’ on the menu, you'll see how cool it is!”
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>>576939842
You can be my Mew Mew...
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>>576941983
>>576941907
Yeah, didn't you hear the music at the end? So sad. And the guy who died by trying to be good? So sad. You shouldn't die from that. I cry everything.
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>>576941992
is that a state in the USA
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chapter 5 haters are fucking weird
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>>576941696
Sounds like the perfect wife.
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>>576941907
wow. you are just jaded lol. the flowers were cute. what a jaded little chud. just admit you hated the flowers because one was black xD
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>>576941992
Doing a couple years of Lithuania conscription sounds like fun.
I'd volunteer for that shit just for a giggle, it's not like you're actually going to ever fight Russia even if they decided to go full nuclear and shit the bed.
Sounds better than spending months in a healthcare facility at least.
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>>576942286
I know you’re trolling but blue is actually one of the better flowers
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>>576942454
Nobody thinks this, nice bait
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>>576942071
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>>576941907
But anon didn't you see how sad Ralsei and Susie were? The game was telling you how to feel so why did you not feel it?
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I hate cartoons I hate anime I hate humans I hate jokes I hate heroic sacrifices I hate beautiful music but most of all I HATE YOU
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>>576941992
what’s the situation? are you about to fight russia? burgerstan news isn’t covering it
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>>576942126
>>576942126
It was sad, yeah. Flowery did everything he could to fight for Asgore at the end but he couldn't achieve anything. When he admitted how useless he felt, I related to that. Toby's character writing still gets me invested.
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>>576942286
Real talk, Blue dating Yellow feels like it should be illegal and I hate that Blue feels like some kind of Tumblr rage bait character because people DO try to misdirect hatred towards Blue as being about their skin, or the tutu, or the awful sideburns. I hate the FUCKING sideburns. But there's plenty of valid, understandable things to hate. It's a hateable character.
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>>576942273
Chapter 5 is the equivalent of stopping at the climax of Lord of the Rings in order to play Dustborn
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>>576942641
I can accept all of those but the music.
Leave the beautiful music alone.
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>>576941452
It's the full resolution.
https://x.com/nemunemu6060/status/2086401830389682592
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>>576942489
I’m serious. His room, theme, and personality were a respite from the nonstop energetic zaniness of the other flowers. On replays I stop and listen to the music when he’s first introduced for a while.
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>>576942657
Yeah, music swell was all sad and the character losing the fight was sad. I knew I was supposed to feel sad about it, and I did, and Ralsei did too so I knew we were all right to feel sad about it. It's too bad Flowery did so many things to get in the way and be my enemy or else I guess we could have been friends who like diners and say "Jarona".
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>>576939960
compassion?
COPMASSION!?
you're funny.
there's a reason i said i thought the fight wasn't a trans allegory, but a journey to self-forgiveness.

the ghost acts in self-presevation in the most unhelathy of ways.
and maybe i felt really bad for the ghost during the final confrontation.
not because i am such an empath, but because i know this.

it is easier for some to love others than it is yourself.
but if you hate yourself, it is paradoxal to believe that you could ever love anyone and think you are worthy of its reciprocation if you already hate yourself enough to believe you don't deserve a world where you don't have to push people away, because what you believe is wrong.

"compassiona".
silly.
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>>576942760
>Ohhh I'm the blatantly fabulous gay POC character
>I'm the intelligent voice of reason among the braindead and self-flagellating straights surrounding me
Yeah what a great character
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Deltarune Chapter 36: Susie gets a mammogram
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>>576942657
>Toby's character writing still gets me invested.
same that's why i loved chapters 4, 3, and 2
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>>576934187
Rory knight when you unlock her as a playable character
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first you get the sugar sugar
then you get the power power
then you get the women women
sugar power women power
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>>576942373
Meh, I doubt they will force me in a facility. I just want an official record of suicidal tendencies so goverment fuckers fuck off and leave me alone
Although screw it, if it comes to a psych ward then so be it, not like it will be up to me at that point
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i hope chapter 6 doesn't do this
>>576942837
>Yeah, music swell was all sad and the character losing the fight was sad. I knew I was supposed to feel sad about it, and I did, and Ralsei did too so I knew we were all right to feel sad about it.
make me sad because sad things are happening not because you're purposely trying to make me sad
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The craziest thing about /utg/ for me is that the worst shitposters continue to be the same handful of namefags that have been here for years. I guess it's a good thing that they're self-contained within their online spaces but goddamn, some of you retards needed to get bullied more in school.
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>>576942897
>straights
Seth and Green are stated to be non-male or female, Flowery has a massive jaboner for Asgore, and Yellow is gay for Blue. Sounds like you’re just chuddy and grumpy
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>>576943080
>mewtroon post
hid and not reading
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>>576942874
I feel like you're close to some kind of philosophical breakthrough but you're holding yourself back from connecting the lesson to your own experiences in life.
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>>576943080
>mewcest post
screencapped and read twice
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>>576942645
No no no, basically everyone just has to roll a lottery to see if they have to go to military for a few months nowdays
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>137
You can't hide my post because I already hid your post
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>>576941534
spamton is a bad man who has seen the truth behind the veil and is being actively censored mid-conversation. him sounding insane is just a lack of perspective. i love that aspect of him, it's super compelling
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>>576943078
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>>576943043
Yeah, think about all the great moments we had with Flowery before the sad music and his sad sacrifice that didn't do anything.

Like, "Flowery told me". So good.

And "Jarona".

Oh, and when he admitted if he succeeded he'd die, so he was kind of opposed to us suicidal. Because he wanted Asgore to be happy, but Asgore didn't seem to like him either.

Such a sad flower's dream. So glad all the characters felt sad and the music was sad so I knew to be sad.
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>>576943078
All the internet people love goats. Especially his mom
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>>576943183
damn and i thought jury duty was annoying
do you at least get some good money out of it
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>>576941696
I'm already married to her. You don't have to tell me what's so great about her!
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I'm just gonna start hiding the brainless hate posts
You can't please everyone I guess
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i enjoy the flowers
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>>576943268
kekkk
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flowery was the only flower that was sort of worth something man c'mon
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being nice to people is bad actually
if you're nice, you're a bad person
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>>576943495
For me it's the exact opposite, everyone but him was cool
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>>576943505
Which Underrune character says this
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>>576943495
What is his personality even? He's got less going on than Green.

Think about it.

>Hey guys! I know things that only some people know. Jarona!

FUCKING chapter 5! Fucking had it with this with this fucking chapter. Hated every inch, it's all so stupid.
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>>576943010
I would consider looking into other avenues of getting disqualified for service if you really don't wanna. Unless if they think you're actually dangerous they could still force you in but to do do tedious menial labor 24/7 and not let you train with weapons. I'm sure you're not the first person who has threatened to eat a bottle of over the counter pills before.
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i need more blue x flowery stuff
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https://youtu.be/lQFgjHJtdGA
This community is insane man.
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>>576943651
filtered
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>wahhhh blue is black sort of wahh
don’t care + listening to loving steps
https://youtu.be/tLAxahP5scs
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>>576943651
there's some nice stuff out there of him topping raly he's very confident and charismatic and chill and he could top raly
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>>576943651
You're making it obvious.
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Flowery > Aqua = Seth > Yellow > Orange (shadow version) > Green > Orange (mouse version) > Blue
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>>576943568
SigmaMaleRune
The Fave that believes its best to treat everyone very critically to help them improve themselves even though they look like a garbage bag tossed around in a cement mixer.
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>>576943792
Floradinn's small sad tits that are spaced far apart...
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>>576942273
I'd care a lot more about what they have to say if they didn't consistently reveal themselves to be retarded and borderline illiterate. They always do though so it's pretty easy to ignore
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flowery >>>> yellow > aqua >>>>>>>>>>> the rest
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>>576943640
nghh yes we are zaddy
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>>576943495
I liked Yellow
Cus I wanna fuck him
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my flower friends > your smelly ass
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post the good underrune youtubers ill start
wizrune
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kyaaaaaa i love the flowers kyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak >w< !!!!
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is ralsei aware of (You) being separate from kris
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What do you think is gonna happen the darkners by the end?
>They just remain in castle town.
>All gone, the fountains are sealed.
>They become real, Moon-RPG style.
>The light world and dark world fuse, allowing the darkners to co-exist with the lightners (in a new world).
>The dark world is disconnected from the light world, and the darkners live their own independent lives.
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nyon
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It's OUR Jarona
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Flowery when he's a dick>>Yellow>>Seth+Aqua>>Green+Orange>>Blue>>Flowery when he tries to be deep
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>>576944102
probably but he's going to vaguepost about it just like he did with the menus
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>>576944145
Ralsei, did you rip him out of the ground?? DID YOU KILLED HIM????????
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>>576938327
>Not OP
There can be a reason to focus on the fact it was patched in being that it can feel completely incongruent with everything else about Pink. If this was in the chapter at launch, it can be excused as clunky but intended to be for the character at the start. Meanwhile now it can look like a bandaid sloppily applied because of twitter memes, it could be the case this was always intended at the start (just a failure of version control on Toby's end), but we can't be sure on what level the mishap lies. Why should she, according to her boss fight, know about FRIENDs and their love of protein? Are the FRIENDs such massive weebs that every single piece of anime in Hometown knows them? Maybe this'll be explained in Ch7 but until then, this is a very valid question when looking at the line in implementation. As one mentioned it could be to show that the Body has distrust and its not just the Ghost but couldn't some resentment (even if light-hearted) be a more elegant solution instead of implanting information that's so far left-field from her?
>Disclaimer
I trust Toby to land the ship, but shit like this does make me raise an eyebrow. IMO I think Ch5 is weird in that it seemingly assumes the player's actions when Toby's been pretty good about it (even if its on minor things, not dealbreakers but still disappointed that the deft hand is being lost on one of Toby's greatest strengths).

One thing I wonder, because memory is fickle at times, how fast was the dialogue patched in? If it was something universal for all platforms (likely 1-2 weeks after launch), this would make it different than the rose change which was an extreme emergency situation if we go by how Toby acted (doing the day 2 patch on Ch4 for PC while everyone else was stuck with the rose until 2 weeks later or so). I don't know if this would be evidence for version control or post-launch bandaid, but might be something to consider.
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>>576944102
He knows about the Soul, so most likely he is
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omg king best character
omg queen/spamton best character
omg tenna best character
you're here ->omg flowery/pink best character
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>receny
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>>576944194
Well he TRIED to talk about it but it was turned into a joke for le subversion
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eating my dinner right now ask me anything
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>>576944115
>All gone, the fountains are sealed. including the lightworld fountain (the survey program) because it's an irl dark fountain.
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yep. I hid that. long live flowery
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>>576944318
might i be treated to a picture of thine penis/vagina???
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>>576944279
For me it's still either Queen or Tenna
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>>576944194
No, Ralsei doesn't suck like that. He was ABOUT to explain the menus to Susie in a way that made it feel significant but Flowey Jarona'd the moment away. If Flowery had died before the chapter started then maybe we'd have gotten some interesting scenes and been able to witness Susie's reaction or something.
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>>576944102
they literally get you off-screen to talk to kris without you there, yes.
>>576944241
>Why should she, according to her boss fight, know about FRIENDs and their love of protein
because she's a cat duh
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>>576943921
>I'd care a lot more about what they have to say
kek
>if they didn't consistently reveal themselves to be retarded and borderline illiterate.
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>>576944115
Fountains sealed, connection severed, either all the darkners are living happily in Castle Town or Ralsei is left all alone there forever.
The final tragedy? Nobody will remember their adventure afterwards and the lightners just continue living their normal lives.
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>>576944373
sent, check your DMs
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80 quintillion dollars for RUNE CITIZEN
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kinda funny you skip all the characters of chapter 5 in the weird route
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>>576944298
>>576944429
anons... are you this easily manipulated by ralsei? when he thought (You) couldn't see, he told flowery that he can destroy any darkner at any moment
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>>576944583
>flowers are boring anyway
the weird route appeals to a particular kind of player
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>>576944429
There is no reaction. That's the joke.
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>>576944520
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>>576944279
Lmao, nobody thought King or Tenna was the best character at any point outside of a couple particularly loud and insane fangirls.
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>>576944241
>how fast was the dialogue patched in? If it was something universal for all platforms (likely 1-2 weeks after launch)

It was added around 2 weeks after launch and submitted for playstation and switch at the same time.
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>>576944279
>king best character
Who the hell ever said this
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why aren't any of you replying to my posts can you guys stop ignoring me please
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>>576943671
Honestly? I am not even going to pretend I am thinking rationally right now, but I am aware enough to not do it during actual medical examination by a military doctor. None of that has even begun, I wanna call emergency services and tell them I am thinking about self-harm so I could have that on record before any actual examination begins
>>576943286
You get full salary of whatever job you have plus other benefits I do not care about
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At the end of Deltarune, Susie will look at (You) and say "I am a video game character. None of this is real." And then the game will close. That's the ending.
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>>576944279
This only happened for spamton and people still think he's the best character. Are you new
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>>576944759
small indie general please understand
we're too busy replying to bait
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>>576944279
>>576944672
>>576944746
I like King more than Queen totally unironically
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>>576944672
I didn't think much of Tenna initially, but his humor and personality really grew on me, and I'm saying that as someone who doesn't fuck TV's.
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:(
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>>576944769
damn that’s fucked up, so a guy with a good job and a guy with a low paying job will do the same work but one gets a lower wage arbitrarily
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yup, i'm hiding that anon's posts
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>>576944746
Just one person and we try not to talk about them anymore other than some of our most hardcore shitposters who can't let go of the one time they won an internet argument.
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>>576944759
this anon has bpd everyone point and laugh
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>>576944241
It got patched in as people started to really meme on the chapter. I want to say it was after a week or so. Everyone was posting about the "Hometown Butcher" because the implied death of Onion was the only interesting thing that happened.

Then "proteins" dialogue got added and the fandom went ahead and ate from Toby's palm on it. Like, oh, this is our one little crumb we were supposed to notice, not the octopus balls.

It was also around that time the "Potential Man" meme was starting, because nothing happened and the fandom was mocking how by this point everything is starting to feel dumb. Again, that also stopped because fans accepted that "Friend" was finally acknowledged to be... well nothing right now, but maybe something later.
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hid immediately
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>>576944353
This means nothing
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>>576944353
STOP thinking about this.
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sssshhhhhhhh... quiet...
...im hiding in anon's posts...
...im going to kidnap their fave...
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>>576944832
Is it because you want to have sex with King?
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>>576944638
I get it but I ain't laughing.
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>>576944873
:)
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AHH DEAR LITTLE ANONYMOUS, WHERE HAVE YOU GONE? ARE YOU HIDING FROM ME?
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>>576944875
The guy with the good job is running radar arrays or flying helicopters or whatever, the guy with a low paying job is sweeping the floor or scrubbing toilets or doing boring logistical spreadsheet pencil pushing work. Anon is about to find out they don't give the good or cool jobs to people with suicidal ideation on their record, that's broom pusher material.
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Sans and Asriel are the same person
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>>576945064
Yes because you want your epic device.wav.ogg.png reveal cutscene that isn't going to happen I know
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>>576944873
>>576945092
i was happy to find out that ralsei's manual was in the game files and i read it. i love ralsei <3
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>>576944524
And then Asgore grabbed Rudy and RAPED him
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>>576944342
>>576944505
So the status quo just goes on and the darkners happily accept their servitude? That does not sound like a good ending.
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>>576944873
>I'm looking forward to meeting you! <3
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>>576945175
No, it's because I want to take the game and characters seriously in between the laughs.
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Yellow teaches us that Asgore was an extremely retarded cop
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I hope they introduce a really annoying 4th Mike who hates the number five and gets killed extremely graphically in the next chapter
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>>576945249
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>>576944459
>she's a cat
So did the Tasques all become lawfags because Queen was threatened by FRIENDs too? Will Toby patch in Ch2 to give more crypto-lore based on what we did in Ch5? The team did put in the flags that allow for this. Assuming Kris won't be a punk ass bitch (impossible ask, I know), would Tasque Manager have anything to say about this in Castletown?

Also just realized looking back in the mew conversation, no one used the word "Compromise", and from what I hear such a thing never fully happened? It's just turns of indulging in the other's desires instead of a meeting of the middle between the two. Hell you could have the date happen while making it more as a compromise: Mew wants to MARRY Kris but then Maddie mellows it down to a date and the two agree on giving Kris a shot (maybe Mew references it being at a cafe and Mew's hungry for something to eat).
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>>576945249
Status quo is awesome if the alternative is the entire world ending and nobody surviving.
An ending where the darkners live alongside the lightners seems to be fully off the table and even an ending that lets them hang out in castle town whenever they want still has the looming implication that the lightners are going to age out of school on a year or two tops.
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>>576945053
No I just specifically find Queen a little annoying
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>>576944241
My speculation is that the FRIEND or any of that cat shit isn't actually important but it was just added there for fanservice. If it was that important, it wouldn't have been forgotten. Right now it's about as important as Battat humping the golden Tenna statue which was also added in patch.
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>>576945428
I hope they introduce a darkner called Sexy Queen and she's like Queen but she only talks about sex.
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>>576945002
Onahole
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>>576945117
matthew patterson…
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>>576945190
It's raining somewhere else, etc
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>>576945420
>Howdy! You seem to have been speeding 30 over the limit. That's not good.
>No, I wasn't.
>Oh, my mistake. Have a wonderful day!
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sooooo... which one will be it?
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>>576945539
...and she looks like this
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>>576945456
Hrrm, that's not a good ending to Me, though. Hopefully weird route will allow us to fix that!
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>>576945539
>Queen after the parental lock is lifted and she inhales all of the viruses at once
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>>576945638
Chat Who The Fuck Is This
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>>576945613
it was flowery fighting the knight. i know because i yelled at my screen, too
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>>576945456
>An ending where the darkners live alongside the lightners seems to be fully off the table
How.
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>>576945694
Newfag-kun... she's called Newfag-kun
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>>576945613
roaring knight (rudy) dying
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>>576945694
beta queen design
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>>576945694
prototype queen drawing
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>>576945446
why would any of them bring it up? pink only did because kris got bitten recently and she also cares about the blue goober. none of the other cats want to fuck krismas "runes and shit" dreemurr nor do they see kris with a fresh bitemark
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>>576939589
because they only half remember it. durrrrrr <3
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>>576945642
Weird route is the "everyone dies and it's your fault entirely but also your favorite ships are bad and invalid" route.
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>>576945798
pqueenn
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>>576945589
It's dumber.
>I saw you were speeding 30 over.
>I wasn't.
>But.. my speed radar shows someone went 30 over!
>Well I dunno.
>Then that means...! Oh no, it must have been ME who was speeding. Oh gosh, I better go sit in the back seat of my police car until Rudy gets out of his ballet lessons so he can explain to me what happened.
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>>576934187
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>>576945664
Queen after finding all of Berdly's Goth MommyDom CBT SPH JOI CEI.
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>>576945851
all ships are bad an invalid howbeevertho
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>>576945613
They said whatever it was, it hasn't happened yet.
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>>576945613
the knight taking off their helmet
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>>576945613
Flowery's dramatic return in Chapter 7, of course
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>>576945694
You don't recognize one of the most well known product mascots ever drawn?
Bro is up there with the Jolly Green Giant and Mr. Clean
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>>576945884
brat(wurst) correction
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>>576946085
Oh shit it's the guy from rick and morty.
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>>576945613
Naturally this >>576936490
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>>576945428
There already is a 4th Mike. The giant microphone png
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>>576946085
Literally who and literally who?? I only know Mr. Clean.
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>>576945613
Given we know Toby's friends cried in chapter 5 and hated Spamton, it's almost assured that Gigi got excited at some kind of really, really obvious emotional moment. Like try to imagine a scene from The Hobbit, where the elf girl cried over the dead dwarf and when she says, "Why does this make me so sad?"

The other elf says, "Because your love was real."

And you'll know what you're supposed to feel in that moment because the scene will be doing is very fucking damndest.
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Kriselle is a ship that thrives on delusions and fanart and you can tell when looking at the fanworks produced for it.
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>>576946273
NOT part of the gang.
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>>576946318
i feel like every ship is like that
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/utg/ would improve instantly upon ship discussion resulting in a permaban
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>>576946317
>got excited at some kind of really, really obvious emotional moment

"person gets excited by an emotional scene" yeah no shit sherlock
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https://files.catbox.moe/ot596w.mp3
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>>576946307
Green Giant was more of an 80/90s kid thing but the canned vegetable industry was more powerful at that time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5_ClosYkJI
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>>576946318
nigga what delusions
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>>576946584
you have to remember that there's someone here that thinks playing music and having characters emote counts as emotional manipulation, the bar should be hell for general understanding
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>Kris dies from Flowery seed child poisoning
>Previous save loads
>...
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I connected more with chapter 4 than 5
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I trust Kris.
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I connected my pussy with a floradinn’s mouth
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>>576946770
because the plot actually happened in it. same
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>>576946770
4 is my least favorite, personally.
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>>576946731
>Kris kills themself
>we start controlling their rotting corpse
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>>576946851
Floradinn's would be awful at eating pussy.
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>this was in 2022 newsletter
time to dig through the newsletters to see what chapter 6 has to offer
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So is Asgore poisoning Rudy with buttercup seeds or what? What's the point of them? There's no way a flower could grow before the game ends so it's implying something might have already happened with them.
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>>576946958
Deltarune ZOMBIE theory?!??!??!
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>>576946972
They’ve been liiiiickin it
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>>576947006
a little bee swinging from tree to tree
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>>576946878
I liked the atmosphere and music but the darkner encounters, jack, seeing an undertale character front and center, and the titan fight being underwhelming kind of tanks chapter 4's rating to me. The climbing mechanic was okay but not nearly as satisfying as platforming was.
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>>576945613
Gigi said this didn’t happen yet and I have a sneaking suspicion we’re not gonna know what this is until chapter 7 I remember some doomfag claiming that it’s gonna be a suselle kiss scene but I have never seen any indication that Gigi is a suselle shipper.
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>>576947006
'christmas the new.jpg' holds all the answers
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>>576947083
>jackenstein DROPPED your rating of chapter 4
i dont think we can be friends
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>>576947124
based on my admittedly surface level reading of gigi's character, i think she would ship kriselle as toxic yuri.
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>>576947021
Flowery is such a gross perv haha *gulp*
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>>576947006
yeah...
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goots...
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>>576947217
I really wanted to like him but his design, his personality, and his fight all clash terribly against themselves in my opinion.
I couldn't really figure out what they were trying to go for with him, but his vocalized lines during the fight were definitely funny. He almost felt like something I should have liked but it just never clicked.
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>>576947023
asgore saw a tiktok saying the seeds would help
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>>576947083
The titan is my favorite final boss
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I wish I had a Tenna figure in real life, then I could take tons of cute photos with him.
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>>576947486
Not them, but I don't get how you could like it more than Giga Queen, Flowery or the Knight.
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>>576947353
I wish
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>>576947387
aren't you missing someone?
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>>576947486
I just wish I needed to do more than gently sneeze in the general direction of it to take it down. For all the build up it was one of the least threatening fights to do.
It's like Spamton tier easy without any of his personality to make up for it.
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>>576947394
he's youtube poop comic relief that gives you a comfy and silly secret tutorial for how dark fights work before you get to the titan
also his boards have deeplore in them
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>>576946958
I unironically think this is what will happen in 7B. Except Kris won't kill themselves, as they will already be dead from drowning in the previous chapter. And with Kris gone, we will have full control of the body without Noelle knowing.
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>>576947664
it is very likely at this point
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>>576946808
plan trusters will be rewarded, all you have to do is wait. be patient even, one might say
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>>576947303
I think they would like normal kriselle too because I feel like they would identify with kris alot
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>>576947675
my apologies i dont have too many rune goat images with all of them
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>>576947771
I'm sort of tired of constant tutorial fights.
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>>576947453
Asgore is retarded so this is canon
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>>576947530
Those Coronas would be a perfect spot to take a Flowery pic with
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>>576947943
That's just normal game design. You introduce mechanics in a controlled environment first and ramp them up gradually
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>>576943167
because the act of creation demands destruction and sacrifice.
to make a house, you must fell the tree and destroy it to make planks.
and much like so, you take something central to yourself and burn it out of you.
it is a conscious effort to make yourself what you are not.

and i have lived for a while that play-pretend is not just not healthy, but deadly.
i was about to write a huge story, but i decided against it.
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Jack is kinda unironically harder than the Titan, though.
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>i was about to write a huge story, but i decided against it.
thank god
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>>576948078
I would have enjoyed reading it.
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>>576947547
I really like the ost, especially the main motif. The design is really cool. Also unlike the queen and flowery it feels like an actual threat, ralsei himself was scared shitless. And all the theme around darkness, the light of the heart and such.
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>>576947943
that's why he's hidden, so you don't get tired of it
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>>576948235
Ralsei could have canonically firegraved the titan but decides to not 1v1 it so that we can "feel threatened" and enjoy the story. All that stuff about lightness and darkness and the heart is like a worse reading of the Kingdom Hearts lore.
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Friendly reminder that "Device Theory" have nothing to do with "mollystars" or that graphomaniac series of videos, despite numerous "theorists" claiming it belongs to "mollystars". That video came out 13 May 2023, meanwhile the real theory already existed back in 2018-2019:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeltaruneDiscussion/comments/c7kzc3/gasters_device_in_deltarune/
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>>576947880
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>>576947864
if she wasn’t friends with toby I just know she would pal around with people like goomyloid and make all that angsty kriselle fanart you see. Hell, I think she already does it behind closed doors.
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>>576948109
My name is Jack and I am hard.
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While i was deep into the stimmy mines last night, i almost loaded up a shopping cart with tcg boxes to to play lottery in a roundabout way
Almost
Still thinking about it, though, stay tuned
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>>576948536
only hacky and shitty adventures
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>>576948407
Okay we already knew Kris could have X-slashed it at the time too, are we going to act like there's 0 stakes to anything until they decide to use OmniSlash and Inferno or something
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>>576948407
the titan would have probably regenerated against ralsei. light and dark theme will be explored more in the next 2 (or last) chapters.
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>>576948407
You can apply that to Flowery/Queen too, with the Knight being the only debatable exception (but I'd imagine that Ralsei is hiding serious firepower if he's related to Titans or some other primordial darkness).
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>>576948457
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>>576948407
nta and it doesn't change that much, but i'm fairly certain that ralsei has been avoiding using fire magic as another weak attempt at snubbing prophecy in the same was that up until chapter 4 he was super "let's be friends with everyone! so we don't have to fight!" because he was hoping it'd change the ending. like, the prince of dark is supposed to be a final fantasy sage, so he just refuses to use any of his black magic spells and just pretends to be a white mage
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>>576947864
>>576948476
Perhaps I judged Gigi unfairly, I wasn't familiar with her game
(aka I was a raging anti-sjw back in 2013 and hated Gigi formerly hiimdaisy for being a stereotypical tumblr feminist person)
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>>576947303
it’s moreso doomed yuri than toxic yuri
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>>576948713
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Frisk is male
Chara is male
Kris is female
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>>576948617
you should load up a shopping cart with faves

>>576948801
technically so is suselle but it's not cool enough for that label
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forgot to buy toilet paper
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>>576948909
just use the shower curtains
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>>576948109
harder and also 10x more fun
give me disbelief jack with way harder haunted house attacks
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>>576948635
Yeah basically. Toby needs to finally tell us when the characters stop pretending and they are finally "for real for real"
>>576948658
I expect themes and such but he just hasn't done anything novel with them yet.
>>576948663
Ralsei straight up doesn't even entertain the thought of fighting Flowery other than threatening to burn him. In the actual fight, Ralsei will heal him indefinitely regardless of TP which itself is breaking the "rules" of the game and forcing our own actions. (not that I would actually fight Flowery, he's great)
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>>576948878
After a few jackpots hehhehheh
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disbelief gerson
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>>576949041
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The one time Kris stopped holding back and used X-Slash they still jobbed. I wouldn't use my "true power" if I was still that much of a pussy either.
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>>576948859
pink foid
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He's so cute, I love him watching him scroll the thread with me.
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Flowery is real. Will we meet The Grand Papaya in Chapter 6?
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>>576949239
toby said no whimsy ever
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>>576948770
To be fair, they would still like suselle because it’s a cutesy butchfemme pairing but yeah they would be all over kriselle judging by that visual novel they’re making. Though I think krusielle could also be a favorite because it’s a poly ship.
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picrel being ai generated has boiled every ounce of blood in my veins I want to firegrave every data center and ai developer.
>inb4 how is it ai generated
look at his glasses
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>>576948876
>Kris is female
I wish this were confirmed in some flashback with Kris and Noelle as kids, with Kris wearing girly clothes.
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>>576949239
The time for Papyrus is over. It's gonna be serious chapters from now, having Papyrus show up then would be not serious.
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which way human male
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>>576948861
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>>576949208
It's not that X-Slash is useless, it's just that NEO has the highest defense. X-Slash would obliterate an average Darkner, but Spamton NEO is just that busted, that strong, that BIG. That's why he's only able to be defeated by a Lightner with plot armor that killed one of her classmates and is using a spell that costs 100%TP to cast.
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>>576949351
>looking at the glasses

Nigga you ga - I mean nigga you straight
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>>576949351
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DLC when?
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>>576949351
one day you will be able to simulate this in your head and feel it with all your senses
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man am I glad I don't share a thread with furries
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>>576949208
That high defense is no joke man, going even with Omega Flowery is the new Trying Kris gas up
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>>576949552
god imagine how much angst computer simulation ralsei would have
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>>576949414
LETS GO BETWEEN THE LINES
ITS GOOTER THERE
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>>576949178
https://gamebanana.com/mods/603763
never did this yet but it’s tempting
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>the off topic summer camp island azzypedo hasn't gone to jail yet
What a shame.
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>>576949447
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>>576938915
damn, Kris really gives off the "please molest me" energy
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>>576949187
toriel sex
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>>576949232
Cute! Doing any activity with him instantly makes it pleasant
I have a couple Tenna shimejis I tried out and absolutely loved but mostly stopped using because they would mess up the input detection in the drawing program I use
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i wish i could draw..
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>>576949648
spoilers but ralsei already knows he’s a computer simulation
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>>576949351
not just the glasses
>those neck folds
>random ass good rendering on hair but shitty anatomy on kris' chest
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>>576949793
look at toby's art and tell me why you can't draw
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>>576948213
here's the short version:
i was a very shy kid, VERY shy.
people mistreated me because of it and i learned to pretend that "physical discipline" did not bother me.
i was hit with sticks until i had lacerations on my head, got slammed headfirst into granite staircases and someone put cigarettes out on me.
when i was kind, i was practically invisible to everyone i liked and a target to everyone that hated me.
this was me when i was a shy and kind person.
i would develope panic attacks, psychosomatic respiratory issues, circulatory issues as my only pain response.

some of these problems are still with me today.
and to this day, i think back to that version of me that used to look at the entire world with much kinder eyes, even with tears obscurring it.
so why even try? your love will meet entropy.
your good intentions? misconstrued and maligned.
nobody will hear you if you keep it all in, but everyone will villify you if you say it.

it's hard being a shadow in a dark room in a hateful world, but it was harder to be invisible and kind in an indifferent world. because its harder to give and never receive. to be there and nobody else will ever be.
to be the shoulder to others but you yourself only get the knee.
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>>576949715
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sexymen
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I scissored with a Floradinn and now it really itches
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>>576949803
ok but imagine that instead of gaster's CONNECTION to save the world he's just a pornographic fanfiction version of that
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>>576949860
is kris putting it in her pussy?
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>>576949840
Forget the chest, Kris's hand might be the shittiest thing in that image
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>>576949938
Why is Blue Mettaton there?
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>>576949351
That doesnt look like slop
Thats so crazy that it can have stray curved lines and make them look coherent and then just gives up on what would essentially be straight lines for the glasses lol
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>>576949947
that was a poison ivy floradinn…
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>>576949956
monika
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Thinking about the war and the barrier and getting emotional.

“Humans and monsters weren’t always enemies. No one really wanted to fight in that war… … and the sides weren’t really all that clear cut. When the barrier was made… old friendships were broken. Old business partners, lost. … Even some married couples, were… “
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>>576949954
kek
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>>576949878
i could never do something this SOVLFVL...
all i can do is copy and trace...
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>>576949878
Toby isn't famous for his drawing tho
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>>576949901
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Anyone have the whiteboard pics of anon scissoring with a lazy fat fuck Floradinn?
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>>576949954
>MY DAD IS DEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAADDD!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>576950151
and yet he keeps a shitty notebook to draw his characters for fun and they all look like shit for fun. makes you think
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>>576950057
this is a metaphor for the berlin wall
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the only real case of recency bias that happened was jevil hype imo. spamton and tenna both stood the test of time pretty well so far
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https://poal.me/5gc4bh
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NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR DEAD SISTER OR YOUR DEAD DAD NOEL
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am i allowed to make poals or is there dedicated posters for that
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Pink and a big blue penis
https://x.com/pdoro_/status/2086489579645796411
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>>576950373
FINALLY a good poal
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>>576950162
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>>576950482
you need a license for that
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>>576949758
>instantly makes it pleasant
I agree! My whole desktop is Tenna themed as you could imagine. Tenna cursor, Cursor, Pendant, Wallpaper, Lock screen, A couple of shimejis walking around. I try and implement him everywhere I go to feel a little closer and also because it's fun having him around my screen and such.
>mess up the input detection
Yeaah I have the same issue with the Cursor pendant for some reason it only works with my drawing program but not when I use any other site. It just stays in the same spot until I tab into my drawing program which is weird. I wish I could fix it because I'd really like it if he wasn't stuck in one spot blocking my view at times.
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>>576950482
You have to post your cock in this thread before you're allow to make poals.
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>>576950203
is this the one?
https://files.catbox.moe/hvd184.png
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>>576950203
I have it but not on this device damn
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>>576950482
You have to give me a kiss first before they let you, teehee
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>>576950373
he’s scared of losing control and hurting people
think about how noelle got more mentally fucked up each time she killed with ice shock
or gohan being scared of super saiyan 2 because it could destroy the planet
also the prophecy mentions an inferno of jealousy so ralsei doesn’t want to cause that
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>>576950057
I like how alot of humans and monsters where fuccking
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>>576950482
do you have a good question?
(Also polls are kinda gay in the bad way, not the sex with Ralsei way)
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>>576950521
not even tangentially related but bless that artist's heart, when he got a scam dm saying "i reported your account talk to pajesh to prevent your account dying" he thought it was real and texted every previous client and went "bye guys, it was nice working with you :'("
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>>576950482
you gotta let the whole board touch you before you can do that, sorry anon
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>>576950627
AAIIEEEEEE!!!
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>>576950573
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>>576950482
You can be the OMG EMERGENCY DO IT RIGHT NOW CAPS LOCK LOOK AT THIS POAL NOOOOWWW now kinda guy or the vaguepost post 10 links and not say anything about it kinda guy, no inbetween
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>>576950627
I shall kill you now. Prepare.
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>>576950726
oh, he didnt DM me, guess I was a bad client :(
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>>576950803
forfeit all mortal possessions to the goat
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>>576950783
can we pretend I haven't posted a poal yet so they do that to me. Maybe I can osmose their art abilities if they touch me
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>>576950884
Steven Universe is fucking awful but GOD FUCKING DAMNIT I want to fuck Amethyst until her gem cracks
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>>576950959
this but peridot
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>>576950936
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>>576950924
this was almost 2 years ago bro don't sweat it
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>>576950949
you've been tainted, it wouldn't feel the same.
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>>576949629
This thread belongs to Chara
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>>576944873
>>576945092
he really is the type of character that makes me sad. willingly neuters himself so others can shine and hopes that this will make him liked but it just ends up in him being hated. which is more a meta thing than an in character thing but deltarune is a meta game so it counts
i hope he has a happy ending
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>>576950949
I’ll touch titties with you babygirl
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>>576950959
this but lapis lazuli
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>>576951078
misspelled asriel
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>>576949898
I find the differences in our lives to be interesting.
I was a big kid that nobody wanted to mess with, swinging between apathy and anger and having more trouble with adult authority figures than other kids. Friends came easily to me and girls wanted to flirt with me which was awkward because I was gay. People in my life always had more time for me than I had for them and I always took it for granted. Perhaps the kindness I've kept in my heart is a privilege I should have lost ages ago but good fortune had other plans for me. I hope that one day you find someone with a shoulder for you and that you can let them provide it when the time comes.
I'm still too angry of a person for my own good.
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>>576951053
>HUMANSOULED.COM
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>>576951148
I don't think so~
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(fave speaking btw) cured meat is SO fucking good I love cured meat fuck give me delicious flavorful smoky meat
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>>576951146
This but lapis before the ruining
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>>576945420
Yellow actually shows us Kris is incredibly prone to self-blame and immolation.
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Toby FORGOT about Red Buster
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IMPORTANT POAL WAS PREPARED FOR YOU
https://poal.me/ig6ojx
https://poal.me/ig6ojx
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>>576951037
ah alright, crisis averted.
He also drew another Mew Mew for me, but he has yet to post it publicly
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>>576948876
This but the opposite.
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So was Flowery pregnant during chapter 5
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>>576951336
chingu chongu
i wan to ride da bumpa cah
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So uh, re-playing through the earlier chapters I realized something:
>Sword route has the text "THE FORBIDDEN PATH BEGAN WITH ICE MAGIC," past tense.
People took this to mean an allusion to the weird route in Ch2, but seeing as this wouldn't have happened in the normal route, I wonder if the ice palace actually details something in a semi-historical sense? Like, with Asgore and the police having encountered the Dark World and having trained for it, with the Dreemurs and the Holidays so close it makes sense that Carol would have also encountered or otherwise been inside a dark world at some point.
Assuming familial relation has significance in terms of Lightners' powers in the Dark World, and the text from Ch4 when Carol puts her hand on Kris' shoulder:
>(You felt something like ice on your shoulder.)
So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Carol used ice magic during the previous dark world incident. I'm going to say (since everything in Deltarune points to prefiguration, fate, and whatnot) that much like in Chapter 2, lightners end up fighting each other in the Dark World for some reason.

Perhaps Dess and Carol ended up fighting one another.
Perhaps Carol used some ice magic to put her daughter in her place, either by accident or by the seemingly corrupting/hypnotic effects of something in the Dark World. Perhaps she cast Snowgrave on her eldest daughter.
Considering how close Kris, Asriel, Dess and Noelle were, seeing as they all played together in the woods, maybe they all got into the shelter somehow and terrible shit happened. Clearly, FRIEND or the holder of the Shadow Mantle as depicted as ERAM in Sword Route pt.3 exists as some sort of genuinely evil presence in the shelter for some reason, and knowing how touchy everyone native to Hometown is about the shelter, it's easy to say it took place in a dark world in the shelter, probably opened by one of the kids.
As for Kris being witness to Dess' Snowgrave, Kris has been obviously traumatized to hell
>1/2
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>>576950959
This but steven universe was pretty good at times and pearl
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>>576951425
im not a doctor but i think being cut in half is sure to end any pregnancy
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>>576951425
yes, the flowers on his stomach were his children
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>>576951339
i may not care that much about pink's character but i would have raw babymaking sex with her

said kris
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Carol and Undertale Asgore seem to parallel each other:

>Both are in a position of high authority.
>Both lost their children.
>Both seem to be doing some very dubious.
>Both seem to be very strong.
>Both are hated by Toriel.

Was this intentional? or does toby only know how to write the one big final villain.
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>>576951078
For Chara!

>>576951336
This is a poal about mew mew. I find the lack of extensions from anons here most disturbing.
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utg doesn’t like steven universe because the protagonist is straight
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>>576951339
niiiiiiiiiiiiice
>even got the text bubble right
I wish I wasn't broke so I could comm him again he's such a cool guy
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>>576951425
yes mettaton would sneak next door and jack off on the flowers
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>>576950521
toby will see [Heaven] for giving the character that wants to kiss kris actual milkers
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>>576951761
So why didn't they just do this, actually?
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>>576951560
>Carol snowgraved her own daughter even though her life is majorly falling apart because of her missing daughter because... she just did okay???
Quality theory posting hours I see.
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>>576951815
He already did that with Catty
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>>576951701
I just dont watch cartoons
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>>576951860
do what
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>>576950521
that's average size
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موطن الماعز الأصلي هو الشرق الأوسط.
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>>576951917
Hot balloon up
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>>576951815
Toby is not allowed to reach heaven, because he didn't make Alvin into Pucci.
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>>576950521
>big blue penis
So even Blue is cucking Kris, now?
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I can't FUCKING read Japanese. FUCK!!!
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https://poal.me/c54wdu
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1 Ex Darkner vs 20 Lightners (ft. Spamtong G Spamton)
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>>576952020
a knife would match the rest of their jagged body
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>Black Knife
>Back Kife
>Bak Kie
>Bat
It's not a coincidence.
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>>576947987
It's okay
I know a guy who can fix that
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>>576951860
i did it
sex
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>>576951961
mettaton can fly and alphys has a jetpack. it wouldnt work.
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>>576951923
I dont believe you
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What if Rudy but pole dancer prostitute
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the tip of my penis is purple hehhh call me seth
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>>576951560
>2/2
Kris is traumatized and had to go to therapy, and in Ch.4 the priest has an unusual reaction to Kris' inquiry about the shelter:
>Kris, I do not know what you are experiencing recently, but
>Kris, please look to the Angel for guidance.
I think that means that Alvin knows that Kris has has some sort of history with the shelter, especially some sort of trauma that they probably "confessed" to Alvin at some point like he says Asriel used to in Ch.2.

I think all of this combines to say that Carol Holiday probably killed/snowgraved her daughter and is just as obsessed with the whole conspiracy as Asgore is, in some way or another.
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>>576952254
>kris: see that dude over there?
>susie: is he a cop?
>…he’s my father.
>so is he a cop?
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>Anon, can you make me a sandwich?
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>>576950624
I put the Tenna figure on my desk so even though I can no longer use the shimejis he's still next to me at all times, and he very politely holds my stylus for me until I have to use it
I have not tried the cursor pendant yet, it looks really cute and fun but gives me the impression that it would clutter things a little bit
>I wish I could fix it because I'd really like it if he wasn't stuck in one spot blocking my view
What a shame, maybe the creator will make a fix in the future if there's several people having the same problem
You should let them know about it if you have a shitter account
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>>576951876
Have you never experienced soul-shattering guilt over something before? Either you're a child or a moron and I refuse to elaborate further if you're either
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i don’t believe that tenna is NEVER glooby
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I am from the future, Deltarune will be known as "Offscreenrune" after the release of the final chapter
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>>576952510
YOU'RE A HORRIBLE MOTHERRRRRRRRRRRR
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has your tip ever gone grey?
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>>576952617
Don’t say that…
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>>576952416
I think you should maybe consider giving a single remotely viable reason why Carol would kill her own daughter based on what little we do know about her.
Why would she be obsessed with the conspiracy if she's the murderer? She could just kill Asgore too and nobody would be on her case. She could just freely kill the whole town, even.
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>>576951668
Deltarune and Undertale share a lot of DNA due to how the two games development histories overlapped.
I wouldn't be shocked if the very oldest concepts for Deltarune didn't have the Holidays at all, just having Asriel be the lost child/Knight, eventually morphing into Asriel's resurrection as Flowey.
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>>576952416
>I think all of this combines to say that Carol Holiday probably killed/snowgraved her daughter
you might be retarded
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>>576952663
one time my whole body turned green when I spent a night without my soul
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>>576952498
>TURN YOURSELF IN KRIS ITS THE ONLY WAY.
>You're right...
>cut to Kris and Sooz behind bars
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>>576952018
life: bricked
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>>576952828
The evil chapter 6 sprite of doom and torment
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>>576952598
If she's experiencing guilt over killing her daughter why not just, you know, turn herself in?
The idea is beyond stupid. I don't need you to elaborate anything because you're stupid too.
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>>576952986
>>576952986
>>576952986
Hop on
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>>576952020
what the actual fuck is a knife-shaped penis
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>>576952768
You should see a Doctor about it, perhaps one of the aster variety.
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if the game reuses the mettaton essay idea and lets you type something custom to say to gaster but it can't contain x or z what would you say to him
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>>576949898
this guy got bullied for being a sperg and decided to become a racist sperg lmao
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>>576952780
>kris gesturing to maddie: hey uh, my buddy likes you!
>asgore lets them go
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>>576952510
here you go
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>>576953036
Like in those TF2 Gmod videos where Spy does surprise buttsecks
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>>576953106
is it better or worse than being bullied and deciding to become a woke sperg
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>>576952529
I have yet to buy the Tenna figure but I've seen people use it to hold their pens so I might rationalize it as a worthwhile invest. And also using it as reference might help so I can just stare at his official model on my desk.
>clutter things a bit
yeah it would but you can adjust the size which is nice. I know a lot of people don't like having a lot of stuff on their screen but I really enjoy having a lot going on at once, keeps my mind busy.
in case you wanna try it out it's free. if you do use it, you should tell me what you think.
https://ko-fi.com/s/5ee9a50ec6
>you should let them know
Ehh it might honestly be because I'm using my drawing tablet 90% of the time so the mouse doesn't stick on the screen. So it's probably just a mee issue.
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>>576951560
I think the concept of the "Forbidden path began with Ice magic" not being a weird route reference but actually talking about a historical event is a cool idea. I'm not as on board with it being Carol though. Carol has her own thing going on which is like you say being obsessed with the conspiracy and what actually happened which imo precludes her from being the cause.
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>>576953284
Okay then maybe she got hit by ice magic then? Like how Berdly gets zapped in Ch2 neutral and his wing gets paralized, maybe Carol got iced by Dess and then FRIEND disappeared her into the dark? Idk about the rest of my theory cause people rightfully poked holes through it but I am certain that the "forbidden path" started in the past. It's far too clunky of wording to be a simple suggestion of what to do in the game like "hold your breath, head to the left..."
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>>576950959
this but Jasper
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>>576952020
Imagine DessKnight stabbing you over and over with her knife cock and creaming inside your wound



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