NewsMGQP part III has finally been released. Further information here https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01114724.htmlREAD THE LINKS CAREFULLYhttps://pixeldraincom/u/4ek8KWa6 (3.01 Raw)https://pixeldraincom/u/4CdBetZr (3.04 Raw)https://pixeldraincom/u/f2mDYcL6 (3.05 Raw)https://pixeldraincom/u/pePcyBvE (3.06 Raw)https://files.catbox.moe/s749a9.zip (3.04 BobMTLV 2.1.3) (You can use this patch any version of 3.04)https://pastebin.com/3CiEGJRY (3.04 Prepatched Manuel Edition 2.13 + QoL, read the EMME readme)Innocent Rules has been fully translatedNEW Youmaen has finally been fully translated : https://mega.nz/file/5Z1QnDZQ#4fFLCwIIP5xWrs0e8xVptgGHnmYOx8qNY37-PiWtHmcSHRIFT II 2.56 has been mostly translated https://mega.nz/file/KIEAnAAR#gZSP8wYdutRThD3wJkcd1L2mPTgpzUdPyKzdVG4BOKwNew MGQ Wiki: https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/MonsterGirlQuest_WikiNew MGD Wiki: https://monstergirldreams.miraheze.org/wiki/Monster_Girl_Dreams_WikiJapanese MGQ Wikis: https://seesaawiki.jp/mqp/Three Charms Lonesome Spirit collab translation has been updated; Link: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/435693950/#q435711784Game guides and resources: https://pastebin.com/D8Bn18pQYou can get the latest translation of the Paradox Part 3 Demo translation files from ArzorX's Bitbucket:https://bitbucket.org/ArzorX/monster-girl-quest-paradox-translation-part-3/downloads/You can get the Part 3 Demo files directly from Fanza here:https://sample9.dmm.co.jp/digital/cg_game/d_310859/d_310859t.zipYou can read a guide on how to apply the patch at ArzorX's Blog here:https://arzorx.wordpress.com/2019/08/11/how-to-manual-patch-the-game-with-the-recent-translations/Get the /mggg/ canon as well as apocryphal savefile for Paradox here (Part 3 ready):https://catbox.moe/c/wa18jyTiny Improvements + BobMtl for 3.06/3.05/3.04,Ultimate Magical Girl Bug Fix.https://pastebin.com/w87i82zPToroToro Resistance's blog:https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/4710Previous Thread: >>576649085
>>576938559>monster girl games general>OP is a woman with wingscurious
Make monstergirls rape again!
>>576939097Who did you call a "winged elf"!?
Turn out I also missed a green chest on st amos as well. Christ.
>imp kino chest>mostly tits
>>576939097Monster Girl Games General is in no way Monster, nor Girls, nor Games, nor a General.
>>576939828I told you about the chest mod
I'm ok with Alma Elma forcing herself onto me like this
>>576940942is this our furthest back guy? we keep getting new ones
>>576940990I will now start the game myself and play it so slowly that I will lock the thread into spoiler hell forevermore, muhahaha
>>576940942>Alma>Rumi>Rami>RemiGO !Team Imp!Show 'em how it's done, Alma!
>>576940942>It's a "Granberia gets molested" episodeI love this game
>>576940942The most improbable team composition.I thought that someone as important as Alma doesn't fit.But then I pictured her acting as their Mama and the image improved.
>>576940942>>576942526Appropriately enough this was the exact team that the anon who did the succubus only run from from start to end too; helps that Alma actually gets to interact with them more than you’d expect.
>>576942526That's pretty accurate to how Alma acts towards them. She's a kind elder to the three imps.
>>576943045She has a clear favorite though.So all the best happy milk will go to her.
>>576940942>Alma can now go all out against BerryThat lizard boy is cooked like a 5 star meal.
I HATE YOUNEVER LIKED YOU EVEN IN THE OTHER ROUTE
>>576943942Sexiest of them all and it's not even close.
>>576943942Why? She is full of COMPASSION! Totally!
>>576943942BASEDDESTROY HER
>>576944025I like Sariela especially during THAT quest and the twins a lot more desuand my aunt if you count her
>>576943748It was literally one hit from Alma and Granberia went down. It may have been a slightly buffed hit but I really wasn't expecting the fight to be such a joke.
You know ironically now that I’m thinking about it, I always thought Gabriella had the coolest weapon and nicest outfit and it’s part of why she was my favorite of the xelvy drawn ones design wise. Her entire arm turning into a flower that transitions into a huge whip is just really really cool. She’s both stylish and creative. Plus her being the most attractive of them all by a good margin.It’s kind of a shame about the well you know literally everything else surrounding her but yeah.
>>576944568whenever the game gives you temporary characters, they will do that and the game also likes to take away that power on a whim just as much
>>576944568Unless you’re on Hell or Paradox she’s getting turbo obliterated by Alma. And on Hell and Paradox she still gets obliterated by Alma, she’s just stunlocked into oblivion instead of OHKO’d.Considering the canon reason why she always wins (she ragebaits Granberia until she can’t think straight anymore and wastes all her effort exhausting herself then just swoops in and GG ez) it’s pretty appropriate honestly.
>>576944968>nicest outfitIt's kind of easy, since she is basically the only hoe with an actual outfit. That covers things.Uriela and Sariela can barely be called clothing.
>>576945295Pretty sure Alma still oneshots her with the unarmed pleasure skill on Hell, maybe not Paradox but it'll be enough for your other agility party members if it doesn't.
>Finish AW route, now runs main team Alice + the sisters since they're new and cute for me>a bit undeleveled and not feeling like grinding so swap down to VH again>Game rugpulls my carry units as it usually does>Previously Judgement Luka that only found challenge in paradox difficulty comes out and oneshots the enemy whenever this happensIt's kinda funny in a way
Bros... I finished Monster Girl Quest yesterday, and am just starting Paradox today. I'm bound by indecision. Alice or Ilias first? I wanna do everything eventually, but I cannot decide ;_;
>>576950018Alice, she's Luka's wife
>>576950018As people brought up earlier, Alice into Illias is the best way to play it
>>576950018Ilias, she's Luka's master.
>>576950018Pick whoever you want/like more in the VN. Or throw a coin/roll a die if you're indecisive.
>>576950018The first time is going to be the most memorable, since you are going to learn how to play the game, be more attentive to the story, and figure out which girls are your waifus. The second playthrough is really going to be there for completion sake, since you will be over leveled, know most of the story beats, and have a team in mind. You will want to just blast through everything to get to the part where the game alters drastically by the choices you make.Alice is a retread of the VN, while Ilias is from a perception that wasn't told. Either you love Alice a lot to want to redo the adventure again, or you are more interested in Ilias' motives and character.
Goddamn shut the fuck up
>>576950018Ilias is pretty no brainer. Alice is a worse character than in the VN and doesn't really offer anything new
>>576950830>Ilias is prettyYes she is! But to be fair to Alice, she's pretty too when she's not frowning.
why are there so many new guys all of a suddenyou're not... pretending just to keep the thread alive, are you?no... surely not...
>>576951236I was shilling this game in some gacha generals but that's at least a month or two back
>>576940942
>>576951236Seeing how last thread had a discussion about a censorship patch + some wanting the game to be sold on steam, seems like someone "popular" must have played the game and now a bunch of people are getting into the series... but that's just me being a schizo
>>576943748>Dragon BallHow good/bad would this ability be?>Backshot Mastery>Normal attack between chained skillsThose who know, know.
>>576950018Whichever you think should win
>>576951609At least three streamers are currently playing Paradox live with the censorship/translation patch.It happened with BS back in the day.
>>576932185>WorldbreakerWhere do you even get the job item for that? Wiki's got nothing on it or the one for destroyer.
>>576951609>>576951236I played the original trilogy long ago, but always quit around plansect village because it was fucking gross.Got a bug up my ass this week, remembered how good it was, and resolved to see the original through, and finally did! Hooked now, and it seems like part 3 of paradox is translated, so figured I may as well hop in now?I also posted in the last thread asking about why one of the links was dead and how to acquire the copy, so two "new person" posts were me.
>>576953395Part 4 lol
>>576953395Chaos NG+. Source: trust me bro
>>576951236There were anons who held off of playing it or wanted to replay it from the start once Part Three came out and finished the main story; now that it has perhaps they’re starting to come back. There’s been a gradual increase in activity for a while at least.>>576951302I’m NTA but I remember seeing that actually; ironically I’m pretty sure the guy you were pitching it to hates this place due to how a couple of the posters acted in their general when they came over from the last crossover. But if you managed to get him or someone else there to try it out that’d be cool honestly.
>>576953004Huh. I never thought that would happen.I’m not sure how to feel about it, but hopefully it turns out alright.
>>576953395Actually, the wiki does have them. The catch is, it's those two specific Jobs are in the files, on the characters, with items. They just aren't in the game yet.https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/Jobs/Forbidden_Jobs#Judgement
>>576950018If you don't want to backtrack Parts 1+2 due to being 95% similar, Ilias, not even close.If you're not sure, Ilias.>>576950456That's cope af.>>576950481This. More reason for Ilias.
>>576950830Alice and like half of the holy knights feels like a casualty of paradox coming out like RIGHT after the vn. It feels like trtr had no long term plan for how they'd be a character and they're just there because the premise of paradox requires them to be there
So many AWschizos. Am I one of the cool kids yet for saying that?
>>576954185The central conflict of the VN is what pushed Alice's character. Luka's too for that matter.When Ilias is gone, human and monster come together by themselves, and the world progresses with the invention of new technology and magic, you can see that neither of the two were absolute necessary to achieve that OG happy ending.The giant hole at the top of the world did all the work for them, and now they are two people who had a pretty good life, without any sever trauma or adversity. Ilias on the other hand being from the OG is carrying all the weight.
>>576954128>picIlias really is a sniper...
>>576954816to be fair, monsters are toned down a lot from the VN as well to seem generally a lot more reasonable. I never got much of an idea that anything but a monster dominated "coexistence" was possible in the vn but paradox makes it seem a lot more equal
>>576955020Everything is easier when you can use violence on everyone no matter the race.
>>576955020Everyone got their Grand Noah moment during the retconned 30 years I guess, if we really want to make up the reasons for the discrepancy.
>>576955767To be fair, I don't think it's much of a plot hole as much as it is just that 99% of monster interaction in the vn are with some asshole who wants to jump and kidnap/ kill luka. There's a lot of random talk moments in the paradox with random monsters that make (most of them) seem fairly normal You get a couple moments like that in the VN like with the tarantula seamstress but it's few and far between
>>576954265There’s only one I’m seeing
>>576940035Meh, even Alexi has made girls with bigger tits than Rami for this game.
>>576957703Cute angelgirls... and they have ASS too!
I've been testing builds at the chrome doll and noticed that a lot of nightmare-hadron and nightmare-ion skills just say you dealt x nightmare damage in the log. Is that just the log being weird or are the chaos elements not chaining like usual? It'd be for sexcraft and psychic skills.>>576953759I meant how the location/way to get them was still listed as n/a on the key items page.
>>576958694Thats because there is no way to get them.Also IIRC the damage report simply tells you which element was the strongest or most effective when it’s informing you how much was dealt, the element with the most boosters or damage bonus effects is prioritized and if all of them are equally effective or boosted then it will start listing more than one. It wasn’t always like that though and it might be different now but that’s the best I’ve got.
>>576959139Huh. I guess that makes sense since endgame sexcraft and psychic skills usually deal like every pleasure ailment with pleasure adept's abilities equipped. Wish it wasn't so inconsistent in what it showed though, especially at the place meant to test that kind of stuff out.
>>576958694Pleasure damage overwrites anything else because it makes the enemy cum instead of die
>>576959508It can be pretty funny sometimes. In certain fights due to how I was approaching the boss the damage ended up just saying “wind” which contrasts quite a lot with the attacks and damage numbers it’s representing.
>>576939097We don't do monsters here.
>>576962912to lie with such confidence…!
>>576963797Show me your love for Ashidaka and the Unknown Species...
>>576964090Spiders aren't monsters, though. According to wikipedia, they're arachnids.
>>576964090Setouchi makes her look cute desu.
>>576964631We might have to shut down the general by that metric
>>576940035>ilias alice routeTraingle/Harem options confirmed.
>>576968568As an Ilias fan, I approve of this.
>>576968647https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
>>576968823https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
Cecil's existence is suffering, Constance is her canon analogue, the concept of a human adventurer girl but who actually finished her story and found the fake hero Luka.
>>576969767Cecil from final fantasy?
Perfectly normal angel editionAlbum of my lewds: https://catbox.moe/c/w5gtyfFriends commissions: https://catbox.moe/c/vo902uThe latest, baby making with Lilith and Lilimhttps://skeb.jp/@dokukasa/works/205https://files.catbox.moe/kj8zem.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/9u7l33.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/xltsfm.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/c44o05.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/5umlsu.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/5i0z5e.png Pregnancy starts herehttps://files.catbox.moe/y1vfln.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/y5omsk.png
>>576970232Yes.No actually, he is talking about a fan character who appeared in a mod that made enough of a impact as being elevated into a semi-canon character by the fandom.
>>576941308We know Alma.https://hitomi.la/reader/3746369.html#102https://hitomi.la/reader/3746369.html#115https://hitomi.la/reader/3746369.html#296https://hitomi.la/reader/3746369.html#378https://hitomi.la/reader/3746369.html#845
>>576970232>>576970424
>>576971697
>>576971697Cecil in Paradox wouldn't have had her grand adventure, or meet Alma and get molested by her.She would have been a BFer, because why go around fighting naughty monsters as an adventurer when you can make easy money being a super prostitute?
>>576968568>TraingleTriangle*
>>576972338>She would have been a BFer, because why go around fighting naughty monsters as an adventurer when you can make easy money being a super prostitute?Anon, I don't think anyone would put themselves through the same vorefaggotry as she did just because they want cash.
>>576953004who are the streamers?
>>576974356Markiplier, Nyanners and Meowbah
>>576976291>>576968568>>576972765spoiler]this will happen in the next update NG+ golden route[[/spoiler]
>>576977389No it won't.TrTr doesn't care for harems. It's why he only gives you one ring, and any illusion to a harem is considered a bad ending.
>>576978161Well, as long as he doesn't go for the SHRIFT way...
Uh... sure! Totally!
Finally I'm back.
>>576978660Technically... they aren't appearing!
Finally.
>>576979182Yer an Archfiend, Anon.
>>576979182>chaos time
>>576979182btw despite being an advanced race it gets a fuckin sealed race uh thingy for maxing it out i forgot what they are called
>>576979452proof
>>576979452Proofs? Yeah, some Advanced Jobs are like that.
>>576978530You mean "no canon pregnancy allowed" or "you can marry all the girls but they'll fuck you into a prune every day"
>>576978161not harem but doing the game with Alice and ilias by your side
>All stats 20%>Nullify time stop/slow debuffsFUCK. I HAVE NOWHERE I CAN GRIND LEVELS RIGHT NOW
Apparently the latest MTL has a glitch somewhere that causes the Fallen Sword Angel Halo to have no special effect. It's pure raw stats despite the fact that in the database it looks like it has them. Very weird. Unless the effects are somehow not showing? I ported the save to the pure human translation as an experiment and the sword shows the effects just fine over there.
>>576980115The Mimics are watching you approaching in horror. And they can't do anything but wait their demise.
>>576980195I think that's just the description that's bugged. It should still have the angel slayer trait on it,
>>576978161>muh one ringCompletely meaningless, considering what happens later.>any illusion to a harem is considered a bad endingThere are 2-3 "good endings" you can choose after beating Ilias in the original VN that are Luka becoming the harem "master".
>>576980495Hide the harpy harem before harpy anon gets back.
Oh? The campfire dialogues are certainly much more interesting.
>>576980195PRFs have their effects as a secret for some random ass reason normally. Us seeing them is a translation QoL
>>576980678Modchads can't stop winning.
>>576980678That's odd because I can see every other equipment's effects except for the one I mentioned. From weapons, to armor to accessories.
I know what you are.
>>576980803It doesn't really matter, they'll get replaced with Chaos weapons in the LoC which you can see their effects and are either too lategame or stuck on the Archangels so it's only a few hours till they get replaced/upgraded.
>>576981347Why must you hurt me so with the truth?
>>576980195See? I had angel slayer ability unequipped but it still proced because of fallen angel halo sword.
>>576981640How does extra info look on your side if you go on the sword and press A? Just in case somehow my MTL copy is fucked for whatever reason.
>>576981898No good. Elementaki has the opposite problem.
>>576981975Is this a issue with the current 3.06 patch? I don't remember seeing this in 3.05.
>>576982130It's with the latest MTL (assuming he also runs the same one). Latest human translation doesn't have this. Either the MTL always had this issue or the one merging the two translations fucked something. I wonder if getting the human translation's Weapons.txt and repatching the game will fix this...
Future versions of the sword has the same problem, must be a mod thing.
>>576982437I did a quick check on a old game file still running on 3.05. The weapons show all their effects.It does look like the MTL screws things up in 3.06.
>>576981347It honestly still bothers me that, after all the time and effort put into upgrading our custom sword it's still nowhere near comparable to ΑΩ.
>>576982670I see. It's probably the one who merged the translations or something else entierly not sure. I'll do an experiment and repatch the game but use the human translation's Weapons.txt file and the rest the MTL files. As far as I know they translated all equipment. Just needs descriptions to be fixed next batch.
>>576982835>ΑΩ>ΩDo you have a Ω somewhere in your keyboard or did you took it from somewhere else?
Honestly? replaying this isn't half bad. Seeing the bosses talk to themselves is hilarious. and going through caves with no encounters is super comfy.
>>576983651someone gets it! NG+ was always pretty fun honestly, whether I was resetting characters for something fresh or not. The interactions you get on it are just great.
>>576983651>no encounters>he doesn't try to get all the dropsAnon how could youyou were the chosenbring balance to-just kidding, it's pretty fun isn't it?
Honestly, *just* having Illias and Alice having completely different reactions to the events of the game and having them talk a lot is ludicrously more effort than i've seen most games employ. Usually you just get some occasional comments and nothing more really, it's pure insanity how rich this game is in just pure STUFF
Oh wait. My ores never reset. I don't have to do the ore quests anymore! Woohoo!
>>576983651anon, don't get sewed by ilia
Fascinating! Illias actually knows a lot more about what's happening in paradox!
I think the only quests relevant to part 3 that does reset is the Battlefucker one, i remember having all of them already recruited on my first run but for some reason the quest didn't acknowledged it and told me to challenge them again
>>576984676Ilias is a treasure trove of information and good will.Wait you are already there??
>>576984225Remember to do the exact opposite choices of your first run. Lily, Natasha, Spider Princess, and the Navy should be your choices this time around, or I think that is the case. The real issue is going to be Plantsect, it having three options makes filling Hades and the encyclopedia a pain in the ass.
>>576984927You also get other items... but I think the Navy is the only one who give you something vaguely unique. (A weapon, but it's unique)
>>576984927Spider princess is unnecessary. All I had to do was visit her and she still joined even when I sided with ant queen.I don't want to side with Lily, mainly due to principle. I'll wait until the chaos route for that.I'll definitely side with the navy though.
>>576984914Not having to recruit anyone or struggle with encounters makes everything a lot more fficient.
>>576985372I guess now you can try to go away from the path.Not that you'll gain anything from it.
>>576984083I'm currently planning through adding another companion to my game(angel, coincidentally, but maybe make her a beast-angel), and the main issue is that it's a debt you'll carry around forever. Every piece of content now needs to handle their reactions and whatever states of present/absent/dead can apply.God help you if have companions interact with each other, that will give you an exponential cost increase with every one you add. Paradox is a work of madness.
how you liking little illias so far, anon?
>>576985141You get the encyclopedia entry for the Ant Queen/Bee Queen for that specific fight. Most of these choices are only really for the encyclopedia entries since Part 3 makes the recruitment of characters of the earlier parts null.
>>576985570I took a look at the script back then I did my things with LoC.It only took one, single look before I went "Nope".
>>576982851 (Me)Replacing the Weapons.txt did not solve it. All it did is correct the name of ''Broken Angel Halo'' as the name is "Fallen Angel Halo" in the MTL. I have no clue what's causing this.
>>576985580Her bloodthirst towards the little monsters so far is funny and her expositions regarding the happenings and discrepancies in the world are fascinating so far.
>>576985795interesting little gremlin, ain't she. Illias is a lot of things but she's never boring, and I think that does a lot for her character
>>576985732>Broken Angel HaloI wonder, does that mean the halo is broken, or just that the sword lost it's luster?
Correct.
>>576986067Cute Lolias. Perfect Lolias.
>>576984927I remember doing a fresh run with Alice after my first completion run, and doing the opposite of my first run. Choosing Lily over Lucia was probably my most biggest regret, since the only other girl with comparable Alchemy specialization is Crowley, and I do not like how that character looks.
Full points.
kek.
>>576986443Meanwhile at the Temple.The Harpy Mafia cannot be stopped!
>>576986443shouldn’t have been so cocky bucko, this is harpy territory and the Bird Mafia doesn’t forget
>>576987096>Bird MafiaThat's racist! Probably
>>576980643>>576984676Aww I guess I missed you finishing the Destroyer route?Anyway yes, it's not like anons recommend Ilias for nothing.>>576983651Chrome is particularly amusing.>>576986443Can't even trust the harpies...
Reminder that the world of MGQ would be terrible to live in no matter the universe
>>576985570Just another example of how character writing is trtr's strong point. Every character save for the battlefuckers has something to say, sometimes where you'd least expect them. So every player can get a different run based on his party.
>>576988806My short break starts now. prob at most a week.
>>576988806Also go back to the previous thread if you want me reaction btw
>>576988842There are universes where humanity advanced so far, they are literally makes spirits for elements that never had a proper form, and cybernetic implants that make you essentially immortal. Just have to avoid those where they made a super murderous A.I. though.
haha hey guys did you know that "harpy" is also a term for unlikeable women? just thought that was interesting
>>576988806>breaks the trust of a species in their own homeland by telling people how to beat them and all their weak points>wtf they’re mad?Did you learn nothing from their former queen’s total nosedive of a war campaign pointlessly antagonizing people who aren’t hostile towards you just causes you problems! It’s his fault!
>>576989353That never made sense to me because ever since I played Yu-Gi-Oh I knew how desirable harpies were
>>576989353You’re just trying to provoke me, aren’t you…?KILL THE FALSE GODLONG LIVE THE HARPY RACE
>>576989479>Throw giant rock at smelly bird woman. Bonk her so hard she gains the confusion status because birds are super weak to headaches. >Acquire bird feather as loot.I'll sell it at the shop in Happiness Village for a good laugh.
>>576989863birds don’t smell, they don’t really give off much of an odor in general. also they care a lot about hygiene and you’re probably already aware-well yeah you know that and you’re just trying to ruffle their feathers, that’s mean anon don’t bully the birbs.
I heard birds can’t control when they shit, could it be the same for Birds monsters?
>>576990461whyy
>>576990461>marry your harpy wife>every day you have to clean the floor after she randomly shitted on it
This is all kitsune propaganda, smelly foxes
>>576990628>>576990461Filthy monsters shitting everywhere, this is why angel’s wife are better
they just use the bathroom, they’re not uncivilized.
>>576991747>bathroomHuh, now that I think about it, is there any bathroom in paradox?I can’t remember seeing even one
>>576991963They just poop and pee wherever and use magic to make it disappear.
>>576992171>it okay they piss and shit everywhere but they clean it with magic, so everything is fineDo monsterFags really?
>>576991963Asking the real questions. Can a game really be good if there are no bathroom?
>>576991963I think there might have been a RPGMaker outhouse asset here and there in some villages.But you do go into a bathroom during the SP portion of the collab. I believe Luka knows what a toilet is if you investigate it.
>>576991963Scat captain brews tea in his toilet and tries to get you to drink it when your first meet him Sonya forces him to drink it himself
>>576991963Places have them seeing as they get mentioned across the game (also Lucretia mentions the vampire’s brand of hand soap is popular in their village, given Harpies deeply value cleanliness it would make sense) but most developers wouldn’t map them out in everything since there’s not a point so no I don’t believe there’s one anywhere on the overworld map. They’re there but you don’t go in them.
>>576992473I almost forgot that yeah
>>576992654He tried to feed it to Mini, Sonya's a real one for punishing the pervert for that alone.
Somehow the world of MGQ has a sewer network, a water distillation system, and enough pipes that lets water flow into the homes as far into the countryside as Illiasville.
I feel like games should take shits more seriously, like just imagine how much shit things like sand worms and other giants monsters must produce, I lived in the country side for a while and the massive amounts of shit just a few cows produce stayed with me
>>576993463When in doubt, blame Grangold.Vacuum cleaners? Refrigerators? Sex maids? All them.
We really need the final update and this novel…
>>576953517This is how it is for me. I basically checked on the thread to see how the translation was coming along 2 or 3 weeks ago, and became really invested in following the anon's journey as he's been going through the game and posting. Inspired me to download the patch that was dropped here from the discord a couple days ago and now I'm finally experiencing part 3. Just completed the opening section of the MW on Ilias' route. So good to be playing this finally and being back in this universe.
>>576994027You don’t like the SHITposting?
>>576994027Ten years later!!
>>576994027You must exercise patience, like everyone's favorite Shikis do.
>>576996748Their full name is Little Patience.
>>576996748Morrigan really grew on me. Wasn’t as bad as I thought she was
>>576997759>Morrigan really grew on meLike a tumor lmao gotemDon't take it seriously, I always wanted to make this joke.
>>576997759I wouldnt say she grew on me personally, but I suppose retards are cuter when they are on your side and isnt actively fucking things up
>>577000656
I love my wife promestein
>>577003112Morrigan is the most normal of the three goobers there. And she is the aspect of violent stupidity her mother peeled out of her own soul.
>>577003221That fucking hand
>>577004793She is just VERY annoyed.
>>577004793I can’t unseen it now
Ilias is better than Alice because Ilias has fluffy wings like harpies.Checkmate.
>>577005406Alice can vore Luka without any issue, Ilias can't do that unless she drinks her sister's dark juice and transforms into a flesh worm. Ilias can't satisfy Luka's many fetishes, so she is a giant failure.
>>577004793it kinda looks like something setouchi would draw
>>577005885No fluffy wings, no win.
>>576994290Thats how I figured yeah, I’m glad to know anon. I had a lot of fun sharing my playthrough a couple years ago, and I’m enjoying getting to see others doing it now too. Glad you’re back and enjoying it anon. Hope you have fun.>the patch that was dropped here from the discordYou know funny enough when I saw the post from the discord here I didn’t really read it because was distracted by the girl in the picture and swore I recognized her, and it turned out that I did, and it was Fris the Frost Salamander from MMTD of all things.Which isn’t important but informs me that at least one person on the translation team plays MMTD apparently and I think it’s kinda funny.
I love Reina!
ehI expected worse for this revealit's kinda natural to do all of this, really. It's just depicted in a graphic way to make you feel bad.
>>577013169>not job change crystalsI'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU
that's what you get, conniving bitch. Be indignant no matter the route, as it is what you deserve
>>577013169It’s more so that the angels go through all the trouble to breed living beings instead order to work them to death instead of just mass producing the organs or using robots. Still one of the lesser evils of the AW
ooooh I bet I wouldn't have caught this if I didn't go through the other route first
Mariels are so cute
my Lime is this confident not because she's a simpleton, but because she's actually a six ancestor tier combatantpurupuru
>>577016198reminder the mariels are so slutty they wanted to touch lolias which caused her to make a restraining order.
>>577017274... and that's cute!
>>577005885Monsters vore, angels unbirth.
>>577005885I think you underestimate the Goddess. All you need to do is shrink him.
>>577013169ok but what if they were doppels.
>>577021797Doppels are smart so it'll feel a little more bad, but if they're also somehow "expiring" with extremely useable organs then I don't see why not. You can make it slightly better by turning it into an op-in system for organ donations and a little propaganda.
>Additionally, to prevent Aphrodisiacs from getting out of hand, for every 50 potency applied to a character, that character now gains +25% resistance to further AphrodisiacsIsn't that way too big a buff to Perpetua
some things never change
>>577026953Stuff like this is why people say Luka needed at least one or more guy friends
TRAITORS
>>577028705Some "friends" they are...
>>577028705You'll know who you're real friends are in just a bit.
HOOOOOOLYwell the part 3 monster story recruits have been interesting so far, perhaps it's to make up for the lack luster selection for part 1 and 2 compared to the angel route...
>>577028705You choose "that" dialouge option right?
>>577029956yea
>Bringing angel halo and angel disintegrating slash fighting the angelsThanks lolias
>>577013169It also help that they are killed.Of course the whole deaf about organs doesn't make a whole lot of sense.>>577028705Your choices matter. And Alice is totally your wife.Anon said the last one, so it must be true.
>>577028705Luka heroically sacrificed himself
>>577029942>Rather than defeat him with pleasure so he'd be out of it for a while opts to just knock him outThis is how I know she's a good girl in the end, there's no way any other person who had Luka captured like that wouldn't rape him into unconsciousness first
>>577032232She's probably my favourite of the seven. Her side quest was super cute
>>577013169Illias literally could have just used robots. She didn't have to do a clone factory
>>577032232Rapheala has a guillotine in her vagina.
>>577033278Why?
>>577033278*baby-making factory, but you meant Sariela
>>577033278wtf hot
>>577033243Too expensive. AW doesnt make the parts for the machine. Besides, SAMs are plentiful.Have a problem throw another SAM tgat way. Cheap and no maintenance whatsoever with a little brainwashing.
>>577033243the point is efficiency I think>organ lab only means no workers, organ lab on top of cloning farmers means extra organ lab on top of farmer clone facility. Taking the farmer's organs is probably the natural approach. Unethical, but given the situation there are worse things to do. The worst thing about it as the other anon pointed out is that they kill the Sams when they're slightly out of shape
How would you like YOUR organs harvested, huh!?
>>577033243But you can't rape robots?
>>577033626Let's not talk about how they degrade faster than human, but apparently not their organs.
>>577033760you can just get repeated transplants, I guess. Most people who take it looks like the elderly who will probably expire themselves in 10-20 years, which means the organ last until then. If it's someone young I suppose getting a miracle treatment 3-4 times throughout your life isn't the worst thing that can happen
>Sabasa is a shithole in every worldwhat did trtr mean by this
>>577034467Desert suck.
>>577034467You try to run a place where there's summer all year while being albino levels of white
>>577035204Love all Delphinus, she's cute
>>577035204lime spotted
>monster pussy is bad because it makes my penis feel goodt. Iliasfags
>>577035495if only it stopped at penis feeling good
>>577035204The freaky angels say they only care about Ilias' will, but deep down inside, they want to be loved too.
I am begging anyone that can draw to trace over this strip with chrome and Frederica. It would be really funny
>playing Search of Maid Within a Book (decided to get my ass to it since everyone here is in Paradox part 3)>defeated the scientist succ and she extracted his semen but agreed to repair the gate. It'd need more though>if the protag chooses to select the Elf Queen to help him and she starts treating him like a kid, one of the succs complains and tells them to get to it that it isn't like he is her son>Scientist is cutoff when she says ''you sure cause I analyzed his genetic info an-''Hoooly shitUsed this pic to illustrate cause I forgot to take a screenshot
>>577035495Monster pussy is bad because it makes me want to fuck only one monster because its addictive therefore i cant fuck multiple if i fuck one. Monster tits on the otherhand..
>>577039815...are superior in every way!
the implication that this little girl is a top 10% BFer
>>577045465Human penis has a weakness for little girls, please understand.
I thought I'd read that beckoning cat stacks with race/job/ability drop rates.Is that right? Because it doesn't seem like it does.
>>577046829I think it has to be used by a character that already has those bonuses equipped. From there not sure if it works as intended or it was placebo all along.
>Illias: don't fuck monster girls>Also illias:
Yeah astaroth. Who would've thought?
>>577047247The humans who would be the likely victims of the snu snuing would be those who were on her fat sister's side.So kill the heretics while also destroying the cohesion of the monster army. Nice and efficient like the goddess herself.
>>577047247Just because Ilias would prohibit something doesn't mean she'll protect you from it, she has no problem writing off losses if she benefits in the long run.
I miss IliasI'm gonna put a Mariel in my team and force her to roleplay lolias.
Aww. She's recruited the bunny slime
>>577047607they had no way of knowing who he was tbf
>>577049698wanton murder is pretty stupid tbf. They fucked around and found out. Even if they were gonna have to kill everyone eventually, it was still pretty careless because timelines and killings don't mesh well ever.
>>577049064If trtr doesn't add upgraded ML forms for Alice companions in the next update I won't forgive him. I know the other two were commissions that got added to the game but there's a need to be equal about this things.
Meatshield.>>577050112tbf on lilith and astaroth, it was morrigan's fault
>>577049698Given the plan was always killing everyone, the likelyhood that they were going to eventually kill the wrong guy was basically 100%, so the plan was always flawed
>>577050112White Rabbit says that had it been absolutely anyone else then it would have been perfectly fine and they gave Marcellus the chance to walk away.
Heh.
>As raphaela requestedI'm excited to meet her now. kek.
>>577051085Sub-Ilias is afraid of her Archangels, so she lets them do their pet projects. Our Ilias would have never allowed an abomination like this to exist. Please ignore Wormiel.
Interesting. So we learn of archangels far earlier. And it confirms that this promestein's from the dominion too!
>>577047035>used by a character that already has those bonuses equippedjust tested and confirmed you are correct
>>577051575Wait, tiny Prom is from AW??
>>577051983Yep. She recites the exact history.
>>577051983Have her talk to Furiel in the PC.You'll find out something else interesting about her standing in that universe.
>>577052396Hoho.
Aww.
Ooh! Different dialogue!
Based Neris.
>>577052903I don't like that they just disappear after a while
>>577050420>they gave Marcellus the chance to walk awayWhich is extremely OOC.
>>577053331They never disappear, the simply remain at the inn and take care of it while you go save the world. If you mean on Ilia's route then they just stay behind on the castle since they can't contribute.
>>576996748>picShitki just can't draw tits that aren't huge, can he?
>>577056094>Shitki just can't draw
>>577056094don't be scared of tits
>>577056264I'm not. Those just aren't tits, they're fucking pancakes.
>>577056209That's not true.He can draw very punchable faces.
>>577056796MUDA
>>577056209I like shiki’s designs. They’re some of the most aesthetically pleasing ones.
>>577057294I just wish he updated the ancestor designs. You can really tell they were made over a decade ago
>>577056926Hello guys and gals me mudahar
>>577056529I mean, yeah, but don't expect from them getting punched, at least not when drawn by Shitki himself.
>>577062006I'm scared to ask what is one and two.
>>577062006Meant for >>577056796
>>577062121Star Platinum's skull-breaking punch (JJBA) and Yuji's Black Flash (JJK).
>>577062451Star Platinum? I don't remember it looking like that.
>>577062006I think that scene was drawn by Nuppe.He kind of took over for the cinematics when Xelvy went MiA.
>>577062592https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB0EXAeJWms&t=90s
>>577063251Man, it's hard to recognize with the yellow parts.
>>577056094He can, he simply rarely does not.Unlike Setouchi who turned Black Alice from a C-cup to a G-cup.
The worst part in _____ route is when Luka has ___ with the _______ girl and she goes _________ on his _____ then extracts all the ____________________________
>>577066391Setouchi has problems, like Shiki.
>>577067330>me■when■■■■■■■■■■■■■■
>>577066391>He can>picPost a pic in which he does next time.
>>577067330she’s v■ry sensitive a■ou■ her c■ndit■■n anon s■e ■■n’t co■tr■■ wh■n it ■■■■■■■■
What about ■■■ with your ■■■■. ■■■ as in the ■■■■■■ ■■■ obviously.
>>577068505He did, that looks fine.
>>577069163Define fine.
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>>577067665The big difference is that Setouchi actually tries to fix his problems and improve as an artist. His overall style has improved especially when it comes to drawing faces and expressions, a big complain in the original VN... unlike a certain someone who still struggle over anything more than smug and angry.
>>577069873To be fair, Shiki did get better, not by much, and I don't have much love for either artists either way, but credit where credit is due.
>>577069270My ball wife...
>>577069163Nope still pancakes. Granted the idea seems to make it look like gravity is spreading them, but she doesn't look like she's leaning her back enough if that's the case.
>>577069241it means acceptable anon, for the thing the anon was referring to he did fine. I don’t like lolis, but there’s nothing “wrong” with the image in-of itself, aside from one thing.The only significant issue is the outlines being messed up and inconsistent, but the picture looks like the anon tried to cut it out from a background that was originally there and unintentionally lowered it’s quality in the process so that’s more the fault of the anon than shiki.>>577069873NTA, setouchi’s honestly one of my favorites both for that and his passion and creativity, his work clearly comes from a place of love.Shiki’s issues aren’t really in terms of proportions or expressions as he’s perfectly fine at doing those, it’s just his unusual ‘glossy’ look, and him usually not being very good at pulling off more complicated concepts. He’s best at just doing simplistic things, which seems to be what he prefers. Half the ancestors are very bland and generic looking, and it’s what trtr did with them that made them memorable.Also the tendency for everything to look like they have layers of baby fat. It’s kinda hard to take some of them seriously when they have baby hands and chubby cheeks. He has improved on that though, so this is more just a problem stemming from all the work being commissioned far before he improved.
>>577070685To be fair, the archangels tend to have much more complicated designs and still people like their designs much less compared to the ancestors
>>577071376>and still people like their designs much less compared to the ancestorsNta but really? I always thought people liked the angels design more becauseYou knowThey have actual designs, where the only ones who HAS a desigh is Hiruko and Saja, where everyone is just naked Race thing.
>>577068505I am avoiding posting spoilers bro.
>>577071614I mean, "hot naked woman" is a hard design to fuck up, compared to whatever the fuck Xelvy was trying to do with Raphela. People generally love Lucifina's design too and she's also really just an woman
>>577071764I always wondered what was behind it. Or where it was.
>>577070685>Shiki’s issues aren’t really in terms of proportions or expressions as he’s perfectly fine at doing thoseNot really. The only exceptions I've seen to this rule is when he's drawing other artists' characters. Which is easier, since he has a point of refecence. And even then, you can tell he struggles.
>>577071874Hot Naked Woman can only be so fun when they all look the same, with the same face, with the main difference being the color.>compared to whatever the fuck Xelvy was trying to do with RaphelaApparently her Succubus form is a fetish, I forgot what it was named.Which mean yes, they put the hidden eyes fetish and the show nipples thing, with another fetish.>People generally love Lucifina's design too and she's also really just an womanEeeeh... it's... fine, I guess. VN or Paradox Lucifina is fine, nothing to write home about. Micaela's new form and archangels are better, especially Uriela.
>>577071376I know and I actually agree with you, the ancestors do look the better of the groups between the two, but that’s because they have the literal opposite problem where xelvy is awful at drawing anything “normal” or organic and made all of them look offputting at best or absolutely hideous at worst. And instead of unusual gloss xelvy made all of them look covered in grease like they haven’t showered in weeks. That guy is one of a kind when it comes to imaginative eldritch horrors but he couldn’t draw a bar of soap if he tried and I’m convinced trtr being close with him (considering he was doing almost all the story cutscenes in P1/2) is the reason he was asked to do them.>>577071614The ancestors are significantly more popular, particularly in Japan at least. Half of them look bland, but 5/6 are still extremely memorable while most of the archangels feel interchangeable and look cluttered in addition to the above. Frfr did Lucifina and Micaela and they’re the most liked ones like you’d expect, and I don’t really get why trtr didn’t have him do the other ones too.
>>577072431Man, it's weird. I always though the Archangels were the most popular and looked the most memorable. Obviously Xelvy has the same face problem like Shiki, but the clothings make it good and you instantly know who is who and why they are them.I must be the weird one. It's fine. I'll cry about it. Waaaaah...
>>577071614The Archangels, like the Ancestors, where made around the same time as Part 3 of the VN was being released. So this was when Xelvy's style was super rough.By Part 2 of Paradox, you started to see a more cleaner artstyle from him, which could have helped when he was designing the Archangels almost half a decade earlier.It's actually kind a sad that the whole of Paradox didnt have the artist at their best like what they were by Part 3.
>>577070685>NTA, setouchi’s honestly one of my favorites both for that and his passion and creativity, his work clearly comes from a place of love.It's weird anyone thinks my pointing out Setouchi can't help himself with the fat tits being a spiteful criticism since it was not.But I am going to say this girl used to be a C-Cup.It's just annoying dealing with the (few) antishikischizo(s).
>>577072385That’s Nuruko’s “happy/at peace” expression and the two are supposed to be happy there. I don’t really see what looks traced about it either.Honestly that’s just one of the ones where Morrigan looks better, particularly compared to the original cg, I think it’s a good example of how he improved between then and now.
>>577071614The only archangel with objectively good clothing is Gabriella and that's Gabriella. Also Sandalphone is naked on her upperbody but the vibrator kills the vibe
>>577072683The Archangels ended up better than what most people thought. They were not just braindead Ilias slaves for one.The Ancestors were the ones who ultimately suffered the most, since they didnt bond with Luka and gang much in their route.
>>577072713anon I don’t know what you’re talking about I was just saying why I liked setouchi and clarifying I’m not the anon he was relying to. I didn’t think you were being “spiteful”, it’s a perfectly legitimate criticism and I don’t even disagree with it he’s drawing everything big booba now because he likes doing that.
>>577072990imo I don't really care about their lack of bonding, because a lot of them simply stand as extremely interesting characters all on their own. Well. Half of them at least. They're great heels and i'll take that over a mediocre likeable character
>>577072683>>577072990Archangels are more liked for sureAncestors have variety and Shiki working in their favor, against "just angels" and XelvyHiruko is obviously the dark horse of the groups
>>577072872It's funny because Gabriella is the one who look the most normal. Kind of like Micaela, who's the naked one with a sword of light, which help sell that she is the no nonsense leader, as if her constant glare wasn't enough.Metatronne and Sandalphone, you instantly know they are the nuclear gun angels. Diffcult to miss the gun and bow, and those weird ass dildos that really kill the vibe.Uriela, you know she is the mecha punch unga angel.Sariela, you know she is the reaper angel. It's kind of hard to miss.Raphaela is the smart and slutty angel.>>577072990>since they didnt bond with Luka and gang much in their route.Careful, that's an unpopular opinion that will lead you to being insulted.>>577073445I can say a lot of things about the Ancestors, but Hiruko is absolutely stylish with that coat. Saja being a Winged Snake is also peak.
>>577070685>it’s just his unusual ‘glossy’ lookYeah, no, there are artists with similar "glossy" artwork that were still capable of making girls that didn't look like serial killer OCs from pre-clown-people-takeover Tumblr.
>>577072990>since they didnt bond with Luka and gang much in their route.They don't exactly need it that much. Saja has Alice to play off of. Minagi has Alma Elma who is easily the fanfavorite. Hiruko did end up as the most popular to not spoil those currently playing. Kanade is lacking but also plays with Lime and has Erubetie. Tamamo literally is Tamamo. The worst ancestor is Kanon but that doesn't mean much when her designated counterpart Gabriella is also worse.
>>577072683I didn’t, but I also wanted to like the archangels more than I did, and with a few exceptions more of them are either very unlikable (intentionally or otherwise) or just very flat characters. Comparatively three of the Ancestors are allies who help you on their route and do have moments with you but the other half are the trio of demented lunatics who can only work together out of love for their mom, and they take center stage in the opposite route and become some of the most memorable antagonists in the story. They make really good villains. I think the only archangels that really come close to them outside of the obvious two (mom and aunt) are the twins because they’re the most developed of them and the ones who bond with you the most, and they play a significant role in both routes.
>>577073606>Careful, that's an unpopular opinion that will lead you to being insulted.I don't think i've ever seen anyone rail against this? Basically everyone agrees the ancestors are terrible people, and that's what makes them interesting. I've seen people say ancestors like Tamamo and Kanade should be WORSE and MEANER
>>577073835Last thread. The usual.
>>577073776Alice isn't much of a character to play off of and neither is paradox tamamo, as brought up before i'd argue shikimamo just ends up REPLACING the role of paradox tamamo, not bouncing off of her. Kanade having a small scene with lime and eru is basically nothing as well
>>577074038I mean you said playing off Paradox Luka so it's not like playing off the doppelgangers of those two means anything less to the fanbase at large
>>577074153I'm not the original anon you're replying to, I just think a lot of the ancestors are underbaked and having them interact with similarly underbaked characters like Alice, Tamamo, and Erubetie doesn't make them any less of that
>>577073776I think that’s pretty accurate honestly. The only one who seems noticeably less popular is Kanade, because she has much less memorable interactions and lacks the personality the others have. Which is the point since she’s meant to be very emotionless, but it left her seeming flat in comparison. Kanon is in the “you’re such a horrible bastard” category of love to hate where really she just makes for a very very good antagonist.>>577073835Yeah I don’t think I ever see anyone saying otherwise, even the nicer ones constantly bicker with each other in comedic sibling banter. But that’s part of what made them really memorable.
>>577074372Saja also isn't all that popular, but at least she has the funny loss scene going for her
>>577073835>I've seen people say ancestors like Tamamo and Kanade should be WORSE and MEANERNTA but I agree but TRTR glosses over them and allows them to get away with it
>>577073835>I've seen people say ancestors like Tamamo and Kanade should be WORSE and MEANERThat was apparently the plan.
>>577074579shikimamo could've been a god tier heel and he FUCKED IT WE COULD'VE GOTTEN CYBERPUNK DYSTOPIA KINO, WE WERE SO CLOSE
>>577073781>with a few exceptions more of them are either very unlikable (intentionally or otherwise) or just very flat charactersWe could 1 to 1 this>Uriela vs KanadeUriela, no contest.>Twins vs ShikimamoTwins a cute and actually likeable, Shikimamo just has Fluffbrains giving her free points from Jingaimamo>Kanon vs GabriellaKanon by default wins since Gabriella is even more disliked, while Kanon is retarded enough to be a little likeable>Hiruko vs SarielaHiruko's the most popular and Kuuderes aren't that popular in the modern era>Micaela vs SajaPeak sex angel vs someone who can't use a fork. Plus we're on Kuudere again but against someone just plain boring.So if you 1 to 1 them, Hiruko and Kanon are the ones who thrive, while the other parallel matches favor the archangels.And no, I'm not going to count fluff brain for Jingaimamo as being for Shikimamo. You're the ones who would tell me Shikimamo is a downgrade and looks plastic, so live with it. Cute moe angel twins win.
>>577072772>I don’t really see what looks traced about it either.Anon, that is NOT how Shiki nornally draws lolis. A few changes in her position and that's Alexi's Nuruko with just Shiki's shading.>Honestly that’s just one of the ones where Morrigan looks better, particularly compared to the original cgLike I said, her tits do look better than usual, but they also look bigger, and their drawn from a sideview so depth is less of an issue.
>>577074808Micaela isn't even a kuudere though, she's just a bitch
>>577074808Whoops, forgot Raphaela and Minagi which largely ends up being a draw. I'd put them off on purpose since they were so equivalent then forgot to put them in.Obviously Minagi has the art edge, but there's no lack of Shikibuses so no one cares that much.
>>577074038Saja had some good interactions with Alice honestly, but Tamamo’s never really came from interacting with the singularity Tamamo they’re more her interacting with her siblings or the party like her exasperation if you try to refuse to fight Uriela right at the end and just railroading you into it kek. The comically petty levels of sibling banter between those two was also just really funny. Trtr did a really good job at the familial dialogue. Especially between the trio de idiots. I might hate their mother, but the six are great when they get to interact with each other.>>577074539Oh I know Saja isn’t very popular among them, Hiruko’s easily the most popular one (followed by Tamamo for obvious reasons) but I enjoyed Saja when she got to show up. Her pocket castle interactions are 10/10 too.
>>577074738>shikimamo could've been a god tier heel and he FUCKED IT WE COULD'VE GOTTEN CYBERPUNK DYSTOPIA KINO, WE WERE SO CLOSEI just hate that she did all kinds of horrible things to Angels and such but faced no pushback, the Angels felt bad for what they did to clones with a small life span, She did worse and all of the foxes were just smiling and happy about getting away with it, Not even Eden wanted to fight or confront her, The Angels always take the high road even when they're in the right and that sucks, and its suddenly not important now that she's involved
Honestly, Tamamo is better when draw by other artists.So is Saja.And Alice 1.Yeahhh, the guy who did the fights and backstabs ruined me.
>>577075296im honestly not sure why he got that guy to solely draw alice the first and she just looks like dogshit.
I like tamamo's artist...
>>577075132Such is fate. MW is privileged.
>>577075420Alice I also had a human form, but it was unused. Instead we got the loli form.Which is cute af
>>577075604Was the human form a hot hag
>>577074808>we could 1v1 anon I think you made your opinion pretty clear already. There’s just people who don’t agree with you on this. That’s fine, but just understand not everyone thinks that the angels are as good or well-written as you do.Honestly I hate Uriela (design and character wise) and feel nothing but antipathy for Kanade so I can’t choose which is worse there, but beyond that honestly I generally just prefer the ancestors for being more developed and enjoyable characters (or just hating the archangels more). Especially Saja compared to AW!Micaela, who’s just a bland-as-bread asshole.I do prefer the twins to either version of Tamamo though. They’re the most endearing characters in their group. Honestly by the end them and Sariella are the only ones I actually liked and I either don’t care about or disliked the rest.
>>577075867Yes. With a pretty dress. And pitch black eyes.
>>577075132Don't forget the WW2 references, with Tamamo's lackeys burning the evidence similar to the nazis being treated as a joke while Robopope's nukes being treated like the greates evil in their whole fucking rapeworld. AND her crimes were most likely initially even worse, but TRTR scrapped it, either because he needed to recycle some assets, or because he realized he wanted to make MW look less bad.
>>577076000for clarity: I’m talking about them as characters, I’m not saying the ancestors are “nicer” or “more sympathetic”.But I would rather have a very memorable villain than a forgettable ally. Saja mostly gets a pass from me because a lot of her dialogue and interactions are very funny and memorable despite her role in the story not being as strong as the others.
>>577076062Yeah it was more like the Japanese unit 731, that's what got me annoyed, If I ever have to hear a jap whine about nukes again, it was just as sickening as hearing the Succubus prison loli talk about how corruption makes her sick or something. I HATE IT
>>577076062Unit 731 my belovedTrtr is not good at morality
Can someone explain this? Does this mean I can do 30% more with axe skills with club booster equipped? And if I equip both axe and club booster, do they stack? Has this always been a thing or is this new?
>>577076573Yes?
>>577076062>>577076356>>577076478It was both actually, Shikimamo's experiments were a reference to Unit 731 and the file burning was a reference to the nazis destroying their own documents.
Shame we can only tri-wield at most.
>>577078724Tri-wield was made worthless anyway.But it would have been soooo fun to be able to qua-wield. Or for some characters to be able to quin-wield, or six-wield.
Yes what? How does having club boster make axes or other weapon skills do more, I don't get it?
>>577079123It does exactly just that. It literally say so. Club Equipped: Axe Booster 30%
>>577079123You unga bunga with both clubs and axes
>>577079231>>577080065Oh shit? Surely they don't stack...?
>>577080915I THINK they do, yes.
>>577076958Not sure why she needed to do that. Warcrimestein and her truth seeker goons were just as bad, and is the reason AW has the horror show experiments in the first place. Luka has accepted that his team is going to be filled morally horrible people if it means for the greater good.
>>577078956>Tri-wield was made worthless anyway.Need to refresh my memory a bit on how the weapon stat up skills work, but I'm pretty sure it depends on what weapons you use.
>>577081652NTA but iirc since it’s heavily implied she was using the angels to find weaknesses and experiment with creating enhanced soldiers now that there’s no reason for it the lower levels were going to be remodeled/repurposed and she’s taking the opportunity to destroy all remaining evidence of what she did to keep any problems from arising, and also implicitly because she doesn’t want it to make her look bad.
>>577082419Nope. Lategame gear, especially personal, give boosters and such. So dual or tri-wielding end up being completely outclassed, since masterclasses not only boost the classes more, but also the stats and boosters more.
>>577078956>>577082419>>577082782Tri-wield is pretty strong, but it requires a lot of planning on what weapons to use for what boosters so you have a weapon stronger than a +% stat accessory and single-weapon pride. It also doesn't help that tri-wield is essentially going the glass cannon playstyle where you either win in 1 turn or have an immortal revivebot tank for that character so it's a pretty bland way to play which is ironic for the fact that it requires more brains to be better than its opposite
>>577082782But they do not boost appending, multi-action, multi-attack, seals etc. Those are all usually much more powerful than normal stats and boosters.
How does one trigger Gnosis' cut-in?
>>577084126Why would you want to boost multi action?...But if we are talking about LoC, even in there it's better to go Masterclass.
>>577086574Because multi action is very powerful, obviously. You can use multiple different skills from any category, including ones that were never meant to be combined together.I don't know about perfect side (except seals, I know for a matter of fact it doesn't copy them), but Masterclass doesn't seem to work on all the previous things I said, that ARE present in some LoC gears. Also it seems you're forgetting that dual and tri wield have their own weapon stat up abilities.
>>577090878Ah, I get it, you were talking about having multi actions, not boosting? Yeah, obviously you want that.>Also it seems you're forgetting that dual and tri wield have their own weapon stat up abilities.It's just not as high than if you go for the Single Weapon one.
>>577091046Pretty sure that the boost is for all weapons. But even if it isn't, if you're using copies of the same weapon 3x1+0,6=3,6 times of the weapons stats and boosters for Tri wielding is higher than 1x1+2,5=3,5 times for the single weapon.
>>577091741>you're using copies of the same weapon I'll have to test that.
The problem with duel and tri-wield is that they are relatively rare when it comes to character exclusive equipment. And those that do have a duel or tri-wield exclusive set doesn't have the same weapon for all slots.
>>576938559>started playing Innocent Rules a few days ago>enjoying it>but the girls in Hollowwald are way hotter and I kinda want to start thatThat angel girl is the second hottest girl he's ever designed after Nazuna.
>>577093132It does looks like this wont change much with the introduction of Calamities and Apostles. Koron is the only duel wielder, with Angolmois and Ilias' extinction engine being tri-wield. None of the Apostles look to be either.
>>577094045It's also funny, because no arts show the shields.
>>577093132Tbf you get diminishing returns from boosting the same elements, and skill type boosting can only get you so far. It's actually better to not be using the same weapon. Sadly for characters who don't dual-wield it just looks wrong to replace their shield or even Nero's Glasses
>>577094402It look wrong and is wrong, since the personal gear is not only extremely powerful, boost everything that is relevant to the character, but also boost the stats by a large chunk. 10 % per piece iirc.
Even Minagi's namedropped earlier.
>>577096583Run little angel! Run! And enjoy the very beautiful picture of yourself!
>>577096583Playing with Ilias means you have a wikipedia ready when something abnormal happens. Alice is as clueless as everyone else, even when it comes to monster politics. Example being the conflict between the Lamia and Scylla. Ilias knows exactly how it started, but Alice only has info from second hand accounts.
>>577096949Shouldn't the Monster Lord be on top of things like that?
>>577097612MLs are inferior and not goddess tier. It'd make sense if it was Alice I but they're not
>>577097612Alice is like twenty-something iirc.
>>577097612She is only 21 years old, who has been a hikki for most of her life. Please don't compare her to the millions of years old goddess who isn't some shut-in that steals food from the ML castle refrigerator when no one is looking.
>>577097612Alice is gaaaay
>>577097949Alice doesn't talk passionately about other women like Ilias does. Alice doesn't want to rule over the world with another woman like Ilias did.
I feel less sorry for this village by the minute. Even illias doesn't like it.
>>577098171You feel less sorry, because someone told you they couldn't go away out of compassion?...
>>577097856>Alice is like twenty-something iirc.>>577097926>She is only 21 years oldIlias has been on top of things for billions of years and she's only 14.
I love purple snake pussy
>>577098290The fact that the archbishop secretly keeps a rich second floor and that the people use religion's name in vain, the fact that a merchant has to force himself to do business here out of pity speaks volumes of how retarded this village is.
>>577098419I guess if we include White Rabbit then Alice is on top of things too.
>>577098290Mgg posters are all sociopaths
>>577098534careful anon you’re making too much logical sense!
>>577097612Politics are boring.
>>577098419I was quite happy to finally get the rough age of Shirohebi. It makes her VN counterpart's personality seem more plausible.
>>577098534Don't forget that the archbishop has a prostitute for himself, which put another mouth to feed, and a classy one at that.This village is dumb.>>577098614I'm a sociopath too. We are all sociopaths.
I'm not i'm autistic.
>>577099568We are all autistic
At least we aren't gay
>>577099837i'm bi
>>577099837Haha yeah...
>>577099837There's a difference between not being gay and not being attracted to men.
Kek.
>>577100856Give her candy!
>>577094402>tbf you get diminishing returns from boosting the same elementsOnly true if you are focusing on certain skills that have enough element composition to beat the total element append of a base element, like EX-tuple Zeta.
Interesting. ilias even guesses that Hildr's master was promestein based on her holy/dark fusion reactor.
>>577100856Literally the moment (you) tried to play god, illias.
>>577101382Demise and Eternal can't stop winning.
>>577101567she is the Knower
Seems the alliance of wisdom had quite a few strings planted.
>>577100856Miles better than the lame version of alice eh?
>>577102015don't be weird about it
>>577102015Shut up. Just shut up.
>>577102193Bratty Anon need correction.
>>577102015I dont think either the VN or Paradox version of Alice would really have much to say about the weirdness of Singularity World. They are both pretty ignorant.
>>577102193Enjoy the ride and the rather heartwarming quests of iliasShame alice never got one?
>>577102015>>577102467If I can shut up because VNanon asked to, you all can.
>>577102467I'm not him, and you're just showing your schizoI like Ilias better but we are NYOT friends.
>>577102535>>577102591???You guys lost me, did something happen?Do i even want to know?
>>577102741Iliasschizo keeps sperging about how Iliad is better than alice in every way possible and people are sick of it.
I'm just gonna say it, IIias's little form fits her more than the adult woman form, feels like that's the real her while the adult form is an illusion for her vanity
>>577102935it's cute, she's basically a light fairy so looking small fits her more
>>577102741You must have missed it, VNanon asked people to not compare Alice and Ilias or be too on the nose or obnoxious about it.
>>577102908>waifuniggers are cancerGuess some things never change
>>577102935It help that her original form is her potato self.Weird considering the other Ilias design is made by the same guy who made the lolias form.
DADDY'S HOME SYLPHIE
>>577103343Is this an innuendo this feel like an innuendo
Yeah. Sure looks REAAAAL familiar, right Ilias?
Scary ass achievement.
>>577103504Kick his ass!
>>577103663>Nero upon watching this
>>577103504Since you're going to demolish him you'll miss out on the Ilias version of the pocket castle scene after losing, it's not much but she accidentally name drops Heinrich before brushing it off and saying it's nothing.
>>577104168It also seems like I miss the event needed to become an angel. That could've been scary. I found a walkthrough that shows the event though
>>577103663Wait you didn't get this the first time? I thought you beat Nanabi.
>>577104271I built up Melty with wind claws and cheesed nanabi with Stop. heinrich didn't really have that weakness.
>>577103343Sylph abuse is no joke.The real joke is trtr not letting you marry her. I'm not laughing, though.
>>577104382Oh yeah that makes sense. I thought you were grinding jobs even back then to beat her
>>577105723he did
>>577105723The jobs were just a side effect. I didn’t realise their potential or even heinrich’s existence
>>576964090I forced myself to fap to every girl in the game at least one time, and I did that one too, but it was a tough one.
>>577106180Were you able to do it with the Unknowns?
How many more years until translation is done do you all think?
New Paradox player here again. Still in part one, just did the first tartarus and loving it so far. A few questions tho:1.) Looked this up a tiny bit, but tried not to read too deep for fear of spoilers. I have major FOMO for going with Alice instead of Ilias (she was so sweet in the original), and I'm hoping to do a playthrough with both. Does this series follow anything like do both routes, then unlock the true route? Or do I just need to do a completely new game to go with Ilias?2.) So many jobs that look good and fun, but so far job xp is like, 1 per enemy. Pls tell me the job xp grind gets better.3.) Is part 3 translated enough to have a full experience, or are we better off waiting until it's done done?
>>577111596Yes for everything. Don't worry about it, play at your own pace.To elaborate on the last one, we will need to wait for a long time for a true translation, but the MTL is more than enough.
>>577111596You will be able to do a playthrough with both on the same file, so don’t worry. You can either do it all the way from the start, or a designated story point later on. Either way you won’t miss too much, aside from some fun NG+ dialogue.Job XP will get easier later on, but you aren’t supposed to grind too much at once unless you’re on paradox difficulty or something, so don’t worry too much about that either. And yeah you can have the full experience now.I hope you have fun anon!
>>5771115961) DON"T MAKE SEPARATE SAVES you can ng+ the other route after finishing one2) there are accessories and passive skills that either reduce the EXP by half in exchange for 1.5 boost to job EXP or multiplies base EXP by 0 in exchange for double job EXP gains3) It's not done yet, but there's a patch that mixes both human translations and machine translations (the machine translation is clean so there's no funny sentences that makes no sense or name changes for important characters like Mabufudyne
>>577111596Job exp gets significantly easier in part 2 and a breeze in part 3. I even recommend you grind any jobs you want to give to a character before fighting the final boss of whatever route you took
>>577111596>Looked this up a tiny bit, but tried not to read too deep for fear of spoilers. I have major FOMO for going with Alice instead of Ilias (she was so sweet in the original), and I'm hoping to do a playthrough with both. Does this series follow anything like do both routes, then unlock the true route? Or do I just need to do a completely new game to go with Ilias?In the context of Parts 1+2, there is small deviation but multiple exclusive A or B choices.In the context of Part 3, that's a doozy but the game does expect exactly what you describe. You can New Game+ from Part 1, or the second split (where you can Alice or Ilias again) at the start of Part 3.>So many jobs that look good and fun, but so far job xp is like, 1 per enemy. Pls tell me the job xp grind gets better.Yes and no. There is Mimic Island for more JP once you can sail... But fights do start giving more than 1 per enemy a bit into Part 1.>Is part 3 translated enough to have a full experience, or are we better off waiting until it's done done?Machine/AI translation is more than enough to play through with a fulfilling experience.
>>577113410>>577112516>>577112436>>577112241>>577112065Thank you all so much for your replies!
>>577113659Have fun!
>>577113659American Monmusus
>>577113783Imagine the RACES...
I remembered the other Halo recipe from Angel world randolph, how do you get the sword of memory?
>>577116603Iirc you get it by progressing the Story in the monster realm (Angel route)
>>577117019So you’re saying you get it on the judgement route right? You worded it a bit too descriptively
>>577117152Yeah, sorry for mixing you up, i'm still stuck on the time the general called the routes "the Angel/Monster route"
>>577099837Yeah we are bi. Doppel's ass is fat.
>By the way, “Mon-Wolf” is a party game about rooting out the wolf hiding among the monster girls>This originated from a game played by humans, but whether or not the presence of a wolf lurking among the monster girls constitutes a threat - it is said that no monster girl has ever noticed or questioned this
>>577113783Great now this image had my brain is now wondering what bugsnax would look like as monstergirls.Though considering bugsnax's lore if you do monstergirlify them an entire island is out to rape you i guess.
>Lilith instantly guns towards the youngest boy availableWhat did she mean by this?
>>577128563
Good riddance to maigstea. That sidequest still leaves a bad taste.
>>577130079what's so bad about it anon?
>>577130317It tries to give a serious commentary about rape in a monster girl haha funny rape game, all the while making the circumstances extremely retarded and obvious that one side is not even in the right mind to make moral judgements. It's so thematically unsound with the rest of the game. I'm also not a fan of Lily's conversation in the timeloop making Luka out to be some sort of idiot.
>>577130079If part 1 had ruka.ogg it would have played when luka was refuting lily's arguements in the vn.
>>576938559Anyone playing Shrift II have a SSSS Guide for 9-16 in the ocean dungeon Helltaker puzzles? Some of these are driving me insane.
stacked as fuck camp scene
>>577135847Still fits on 1 screen, we can go bigger!
>>577130443The game isn't very great at commentaries and fuck up any messages it can have because it fail to understand that it's describing itself. Or worse, it know perfectly well it's describing itself but pretend to be retarded.
>>577114941So, like, wendigo?If so, Un Do called dibs, apparently: https://wimg.rule34.xxx//images/6285/a16151392a9e48f92fb6114c3804d24d.jpeg
That was part 1 done already! pretty quick.
>>577128563That her full name is actually Lilith Nightmare Epstein.
>>577128563She is a sadist that like to go on the innocents.What do you mean it's not that??
>>577113783>>577114941I mean that's just the Monster Lords after Saja. They've been gathering genes (presumably mostly from men with monster DNA similar to the Sabasa King) to recreate Fatlice for 1000 years, until Luka decided to add some Ilias to the group project.
>>577141709fatlice kinda looks like a slug more than a lamia
>>577141709Black Alice and Alice Last are flatties!
>>577141851She is disgusting like that!
>>577141709>marry>marry>pass>fuck>pass>pass>pass>fuck>pass>fuck>pass>pass>pass>marry>marry>pass>kill
>>577142392>killBrutal
that new tokinokogiri toddler game is gonna have Lilith in it
>>577142583Shit
>>577142583what's this about
>>577100283>picTRTR should have done a collab Succ/Demon in Wonderland. I'd like to see Ilias' reaction to I-can't-believe-this-is-not-Ilias.
>>577141709>from slug to birds>weird amalgamations and scylla>catgirl goofy qt out of nowhere>enlightened third eye opener is a snake>decides to return towards slugMan what a rollercoaster. I wonder what happened between 13 and 14 to open that eye or mark.
>>577142772I think it's a succubus prison sequel? but the main character is age regressed. definitely seems to be going for the horror angle still, thoughpreview is herehttps://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/674/article/1901825
>>577142949>succubus prison sequelOh shit, we are cooked bros.
>>577142783>titsof course it's not
>>577141709Remina probably had a shit ton more men who had monster genetics in them than the rest of the workd since they weredoing the coexistence thing before it became cool. So that is probably how it finally reached the 16th as the closest to Fat Alice.
>>577142392Im surprised anyone would fuck the 10th, she is probably the most sleezy of them all. Not to mention being made into a corpse at the end.
>>577142949guaranteed this will be translated before the game that gots it's tl canned due to covid. the uh size one whatsitcalled anasteema.also>>577142583she will never escape the shotacon allegations.
Remember the Bebizera ending in Succubus Prison?If you haven't played it or forgot you summon a giant oppai loli succubus who age-regresses you, mindbreaks you, then keeps you forever trapped while she and a group of loli succubi pleasure you every day. You technically managed to escape and survive the three main succubi, but your save file gets overwritten and you're softlocked since every time you load the file your character just wakes up with Bebizera and her girls to get pleasured once againThis is a spin-off that follows that ending.
>>577144231yeah cuz the only other 2 options are vinum's cum cup and becoming a succ for a futa they would not let you be a succ and vinum wouldnt give you any free will or chance to get out so.. yeah only option they locked themselves into that cuz the actual true escape ending only buys the mc a few months cuz the whore (myusca) is a stalker
What a pile of trash.
>>577144405They could use another protagonist. Nobody was invested in Tooru as a character and he didn't even have a name until MGQ (some people here liked to call him Tanaka). A proper Succubus Prison 2 would just need new succubi and a new area to keep it fresh.
>>577143564The lamprey mouth and hidden eyes are cute. Of course realistically sex with her wouldn't be sexy, but it's not real. It's a fantasy game with cute anime aesthetics.
>>577144405NTA, but there's also that blue loli ojou-sama succ, Ivy, who takes you back to her world, and a sleepy succ who breastfeeds you for all eternity.
>>577144795Yeah i mean they kinda fucked themselves over to even have a sequel when 98% of the endings murder you. PLus the guy is a non character to the point of being unnamed until a fucking rpg collab and even then the dude got cucked out of his hero status.
>>577145135Fair but my main point was that most things just murder you in that game. dude has.. limited options for sequel material.
>>577144958People's biggest complaint about is really Un-Do taking a page from Xelvy and adding a weird fetish to a otherwise attractive design. Used dirty panties just screams Xelvy.
>>577145756>>577145756>People's biggest complaint about is really Un-Do taking a page from XelvyI'm not complaining I miss Xelvy, though I do find undead disgusting
>>577145756who did lolias btw. i feel like this isnt a only just xelvy but a trtr thing.Like xelvy is defs into weird stuff but like i swear it's more prevelant than it would be in a normie work.
Uhhh... yea! Totally!
Sorry pirates, but I already gave you a hand in a previous timeline!
>>5771417091) would marry she got that amazonian beauty, even though i find her philosophy borderline trash and stupid but i can't help but feel attracted to her she is beautiful2) also would marry if she is good enough for the promised land she can't be a bad person3) not into harpies4) what is even that?5)looks fine but6) is 5 but much much better 100%7) no8) hell no9) would marry and try to make her smile10) she looks like a venus fly trap you stick your dick in there and she is not going to let you go11) i fucking hate m*rmaids like you wouldn't believe12) looks cute and goofy but no13) not into centaur14)Yeah would marry15)Hell yeah i'd marry her16) in all honesty she is beautiful(her mom is better looking) but her problem is17) is the problem
>>577140220I don’t agree with that but to each their own I suppose
I don't recruit titcows, sorry.Take the circle tool balloon implants out and try again
>>577142583whew lad
>>5771475614th is a spider. Might even be related to Spider Princess. You like spiders right?
>>577148519>You like spiders right?No, other than maya no.
>>577141709Sex with 4th, 5th, goofy cat 12th, and 17th
>>577141709What about their personalities though
>>577148974Relatively good, even the ones who are closest in bloodline to Saja. 1st, 7th, 8th, 10th, and the maybe 13th are kind of horrible.
>>577141709the downfall of the bloodline's breasts from 15 to 17 needs to be studied
>>577149352Compression is efficient evolution Also your husband being a shota probably affects things
>>577148974Ignoring the whole rapist thing, they're all bums in one way or another. Even Neris. Nero does all the housework.
>>577147773I guess the game is indeed perfect with it's messages.
>>577150069I dont see some of these girls being rapists. 11th had a lover who she married after handing the reigns to the house cat.
>>577146729Hug the cute pirates. Precious little things.
>>577149352Booblice is presumably much older than the Blue Tapeworm and has amassed more boob fat, not to mention she has gone through pregnancy. Neris... Yeah, no the Blue Failure (and Shitki) just fucked up.
>>577149352They wanted to attract me specifically
>>577149352Tastes progress over timeIf you can't even really hug your shota, what's the point
>>577149352It's quite simple, the 16th decided the genes of flat and midget status was better for her daughter. It's why Nero doesnt have the shota gene like his father, and grandfather before him. This seems to have fucked his eye sight too.The 16th had a vision, and it was horrible.
>>577151053Skill Issue
>>577151090They let a woman that hated humanity for a while be in charge of a child's genes.
What can monsters learn from the ultimate being being a loli?
>>577151906>t. Luka EpstHEIN
>>577151090The whole thing is just stupid. Alice is a very arrogant character. It makes no sense for her to be able to pick her kids' genes and not choose to make her daughter like her.
>>577152257She likes them petite and that includes the girls
>>577151906That there's a reason the MGQ universe is such a crapsack world.
>>577152442But enough about Alice
>>577152339Yes, but she likes her girls shortSTACK.https://m10.hentaiera.com/031/v5sk2fhmxc/55.webp
>>577152657Isn't that Illias's thing
Surely you guys don't hate Alice for real, right?I'm fully on Ilias' side, but it'd still pat Alice's head and give her a slice of cake. If Alice was in a burning building, I'd risk my life to save her like Peewee Herman in the pet shop.
>>577153220I don't hate the 16th or 17th Alice, no. They are stupid but that's another matter.
>>577153220I don't hate herbut I also don't love her because she isn't the same character from the VN
>>577153220no i don't hate aliceMake no mistake i prefer ilias over her any time of the day but alice herself isn't bad or even remotely evil, at most you can accuse her of being snobby but all in all she is a good person.
>>577152657One of the few good things about her.https://aws-mp4.rule34.xxx//images/3209/b26dc989e26f43edb811c4a228dee674.mp4?18274350>>577152776Paradox has shown on multiple occations that Ilias and Alice are not that different.
>murders a themis trap right in front of a furieleh? I guess they don't have good eyesight
Yeah illias. Turns out not acting as a holier than thou being makes it much easier to interact with people.
>>577157214If only everyone learned such a lesson
Good to see you again Alma. I hope you're ready for your boxing match with Minagi.
ahahahahaha, oh wowI suppose it's personal now, Sub Ilias
what do you do when your dream wife isn't real?
>>577158946Same thing 99.9% of the population doesNothing
>>577158946All you need is total mastery over your dreams and she'll be there.
>>577159167and continue my lonely suffering? that's gay>>577159802no dreams for me because cannabis addiction. i've thought about mastering lucid dreaming many times but alas, worldly vices keep me shackled
>>577142949wait what the fuck>releases august 13nthholy shit big news
>>577153220Hate is too strong, I just don't care for her, I might save her but I know I'd regret it later on
kino
I am indifferent to AliceApathetic, evenExcept for the 5th and the Doll version of the 10th, they're extremely hot.
Honestly I don't appreciate you lying about the whole equality in heaven thing raphaela, but you seem decent so I'll be giving you the helping hand this time. It's time to see what skeletons MW has in its closetAssuming the monsters haven't gulped down all the bones
Based zion
>>577160350You didn't know about it? It's been talked from time to time here. I would've liked Burusera better, but still I might play it to see and hear the Succ Prison trio again.>>577142583Lilith's voice is cute.
>>577163784>You didn't know about it?no, i'm looking through all the ci-en articles now. i kinda forgot about the game sometime within the last yearcurrently trying to download the new demo but dlsite is being a CUNT
>>577163449>gulped down all the bonesPochi did it (mine) better.
>>577151381The Monsters aren't smart people. (Neither are the angels)
>>577153220I don't hateAlice, i just think she's boring
Dude, food lmao
>>577153220she didnt get as much content in paradox ontop of her character being kinda wishwashy at moments at default starting out like a late part 1 early part 2 in terms of grumblyness i guess.She only acts onpar vn alice in a few specific moments.I get she's supposed to be a bit grumbly cuz she hasnt gotten to know luka yet cuz it's an ausequelthing. But she does not really grow much as a character in paradox. The vn's alice is better in that regard.Meanwhile ilias has spades.
>>577153220I don't dislike her, she is just a nothing burger in Paradox.
>>577142583Based. I will forgive them if it's good.
>>577146729FINALLY we're making good decisions!
>>577175607This could've been good but they fumbled the progression and MC
>>577175607eyugh. ugly
>>577158619I guess they didn't have the tech to make him a premature ejaculating cyborg body.
>>577153220Indifference seems to be common.It shows how much she was carried by how exotic her design is and the other VN characters, and how little she herself has going on as a character.
>>577142583i wish i was a shota
>>577176645I'm sure you can find a girl with giant implants to kill you if you try
>>577153220I like her fine. The original VN Alice is a very enjoyable character and much better written, as Paradox Alice lacks the motivations and more important parts of her identity, but she’s still alright enough. She does get some development in part three on her route at least, but in the end she’s still just alright and can’t really match the original one. But she’s still got her fun moments, and she was never really gonna beat the original one anyway so I don’t mind.
>>577176404anons are talking about paradox alice, the original one wasn’t carried by the design. But she is definitely carried by the original one’s existence in paradox, since her route heavily relies on the nostalgia and subversion of the original story. If I played paradox first I probably wouldn’t have liked her as much, since she’s just not as interesting in it.also she’s really not that exotic for a monster girl I mean let’s be honest here Alice is just a lamia with purple skin.
>>577178331NTA but I was talking about in general, I didn't care for her in the RPG or VN and found her very annoying
>>577179620eh, my point was mostly that indifference or neutrality is only really common for the paradox one since the original Alice is legitimately popular and well-regarded. I can understand not liking the original one either, it’s just not the general perception of that version of her is all.The game making fun of it in part three by having Alice realize this in-universe and then later start trying to invoke her role in the original world to get Luka to marry her was funny though.
>>577178331>anons are talking about paradox alice, the original one wasn’t carried by the designI'm talking about both.And I was describing the original. And I am correct.>also she’s really not that exotic for a monster girlIt's not too late to delete your retardation in embarrassment. Even I've done as much before.>If I played paradox first I probably wouldn’t have liked her as much, since she’s just not as interesting in it.The problem is she's not interesting in the VN either.>bweh my mom died, i'm actually not that mad or sad about this except that 1 time I ripped a dude in half as a kidThat's it. That's her entire character arc. She ends the VN in the same place she started the VN. No development occurred despite being the 2nd most present character.Which is similar to her Paradox problem, she simply doesn't have much going on as a character.It's okay to admit that the VN was a massive breath of fresh air and quality to the genre, and as such a mixture of freshness from then and nostalgia from now make you imagine aspects of it better than it was on objective metrics.Assume for a moment the VN didn't exist and somehow Paradox got made, Alice would struggle to be Top 50ish. She got a huge boost from MGE and the freshness of the VN. Clear that bias and Alice is struggling to stay within 50 ranks of Ilias, while Ilias is taking a Top 10.
>>577183534Alice starts mgq despirted and on the verge of giving up on the whole coexistence thing when she meets luka, part of the reason she sticks with luka is because he shares her ideals but is far more optimistic compared to her pessimistic outlook, and she wants to see if luka can hang on to his ideals after experiencing every facet of life on his adventure. She's playing devils advocate when she challenges him on his ideas and her snide attitude is a smokescreen of her real thoughts and feelings. She basically goes from "this kid doesn't get how the world really works" to "what the fuck am i actually falling for the optimist retard shota" over the course of part 1 and 2
>"It begins in the Monster Lord's Castle. With a little girl forgotten by two moms."
>>577184206Funny enough, Paradox showed what she was going to do if she didnt meet Luka. She was going to be a evil tyrant, and do the whole symbol of evil thing, so peace will return when a hero kills her.
Hmm this shota is being vored to death Oh well, not my problem
>>577183534>I am correctAnon your opinion is subjective. You don’t need to pretend like you’re some kind of objective arbiter of quality. Also I’m not sure why you feel the need to attempt to do some point-by-point thing. Most anons clarified the distinction in their posts, which is what I was pointing out.But for the sake of engaging with this fairly>she has no development>ends the same place she startedThat’s simply not true. She starts as someone with a martyr complex who was looking for an excuse to give up on her dream, but found Luka instead, and believing she needed to die to redeem herself for “ruining” her mother’s plan, she starts trying to mold Luka into her idea of a hero, attempting to challenge his ideas to see if he can remain unbroken and better than she is. Part 2 caps it off with Luka telling her that her plan was incredibly stupid and her death would solve nothing, and her martyr complex is preventing her from being able to achieve what she wants, and the two of them need to find actual solutions instead. She changes after that point and becomes more hopeful and starts involving herself in the circumstances more personally (and will no longer abandon him if he loses, she’s overwhelmed and captured by angels instead) which culminates in the two fighting side by side. She also warms up over the course of the game and stops being as snide and cold as Luka gets her to open up. I found her pretty endearing, and it’s safe to say a lot of people did, too.
>>577186160>She changes after that pointNTA. What do kids call it these days? Cap? No, she doesn't change. At all. She's more involved in the rest of the game because she's forced to fight, the enemies are now also her enemies, but that's really it.
>>577185696Yeah, thats the attitude she's taking to keep some distance between herself and luka, she think's he's gonna lose and get raped any second in part 1. She doesn't want to get attatched and then see him fail, which would indicate that his beliefs are faulty and are a pipe dream. By part 2 luka has proven himself that she isn't expecting him to lose to total jobbers like anglerfish girl or crab girl, and when luka is actually fighting someone potentially dangerous she usually gives a hint before battle or cheats a little when luka is punching way above his weight like in the posideon fight. I won't say it isn't a flaw of the VN, but you also have to remember that its a hentai vn with reverse rape as a major draw, by the way the vn is structured alice must abandon luka or otherwise incapacitated and be out of the picture so the reverse rape h-scene and bad ending can happen. I wouldn't regard the bad ends as a major reflection on alice's character.
>Lose>Get raped and killed>Win >Get their pocket lint and 0.1% expThe unfair society we inhabit
>>577190358>he hasn't been stripping his enemies bare and stealing all their moneyYou don't play a lot of computer rpgs, do y9u?
>>576938559You should add download for part 1 android port of paradox (currently version 1.1.0)Also bobmtl links are old and outdated, current bobmtl version is 0.29
>>577183534>I am correct>if you disagree with me it’s just nostalgia making you imagine things differentlyanon, I have no issue with you disliking her or saying you think the original novel was imperfect (because it was imperfect) but you’re not winning people over by saying anyone who disagrees with you is doing so because they’re hallucinating. Or by acting like your opinions are superior to everyone else’s.Also because I feel this is worth pointing out>assume the original game and it’s story didn’t existboth Alice and Ilias would suffer greatly from that, even if paradox still existed Ilias would be harshly kneecapped if the original story wasn’t there as her route plays off of the original novel very very strongly, and it’s key to why her story is as good as it is. I would argue she benefitted from it far more than Alice did, because she’s the same Ilias, first implied then later confirmed outright, and it’s a direct continuation of her arc that follows up on her dying moments in the original story and if you removed this it would harm her and the impact of her route quite a lot. I don’t even know how she would fare if you took all of that out. I honestly can’t even imagine Ilias’s route without the context of the original setting since it’s just so heavily intertwined on it.
>>577191518Wait the android port is only part 1 so far? Would be interesting to play it again then.
>>577183534>The problem is she's not interesting in the VN either.Now that's a hot take. People who put the VN on a pedestal will hate you for it.
>>577187197She does>she's involved because she's fighting to stop global genocidethat doesn't really make her look bad
>>577194080Yeah, I was expecting medium flak for that. Can't be bothered to reply, trying to make a better base in Palworld.
>>577195792Medum? You are getting deep fried.Personally, I think it's an interesting opinion that can objectively seen as right, but no one will agree or give it a single thought. The general ride and die for the VN.Can't blame the tread much, but they are inflexible about it.>trying to make a better base in Palworld.Based?
>>577195792Can we trade one of our spider girls for Tarantriss
>>577195792I hope you put more effort in your base than you do your opinions. That shouldn’t be too hard though.Because base building is fun.
>>577195792>>577196313I don’t even have an issue with the opinion itself so much as just the claim that anyone who disagrees must be misremembering things if they don’t agree. It’s just pretentious.The VN has plenty of problems that are more clear-cut and obvious anyways, the main one being the narrative dissonance of “most monster girls aren’t evil but 95% of the ones you fight are” since it just makes it look like all of them are evil which is why paradox went out of the way to try and fix. The difference between the two is pretty stark in that regard.
>>577130079>>577130443Paradox is weird because it wants you to see Luddite and Magistea males like they're Epstein but it barely shows anything so it's not something you think about and it also coming from the game where girls want to rape the "legally adult" hero and some being lolis as well. It also makes the lilith sisters in a weird position because players might just not take too much time to take in Luddite and think they slaughter an innocent town if you only do the sidequest and not talk with npcs at least until Natasha.
>>577196441I'm not gonna say my most wanked to girl in this series is classic Spider Girl... but I'm not going to deny it either.>>577196470Define "effort".I just want an open relaxing low stress environment where I accumulate the various crap I need at a usable pace.Which mostly just means I entirely ignore everything structural and just place the various facilities on the ground with beds everywhere and a few hot springs. Sure the pathing presumably works in 1.0 and you can do other stuff, can't be bothered, don't need retards thinking they're surrounded by impassible terrain half way up a ramp til they starve to death. Fuck you Lovander, fucking retard.>>577197398>just the claim that anyone who disagrees must be misremembering things if they don’t agree. It’s just pretentious.Am I wrong though?The most anyone can do is exaggerate or headcanon about VN Alice, when the simple fact is she was a pro-coexistence softie from the start, nothing about that changed, and a lot of problems stem from her being a lazy neet shit ruler like her ancestor.She doesn't get a character arc because her entire "arc" is 1 tantrum she threw as a kid, and that's long resolved before the VN starts. And the result isn't someone with enough charisma to carry being one-note like Hiruko or Black Alice.She doesn't even get a "Maybe I should do more" angle, she literally takes a goddamned vacation at the end of the VN too. Vacation for fucking what? She didn't do shit. Goddamned lazy shit neet grape snek.
>>577198249In all fairness the main conflict in Magistrae is based in the aftermath and it’s less “the men were bad” and more “you will become just as bad if not worse if you do the same thing they did” which isn’t helped by worm drugs making you mentally ill and Lily being a nutcase to begin with. Even the VN had that element to it since Luka just tells her that her tragic backstory is bullshit and makes him hate her even more since she’s actively choosing to perpetuate the things she claimed to fight against and does even worse (like kidnapping little girls and injecting them with worm science that melts them into non-sapient tentacle blobs).I do agree that Luddite could’ve been handled better though. Certain important parts should not have been hidden behind sidequests.
>>577198249I found Luddite well implemented in all honesty.It wasn't in your face unless you start putting two and two together by exploring. It also is the result of the Ilias church "liberalizing" I guess is the best term for it? With those ultra traditionalists getting conned by cult leaders to go to some dilapidated village where the flock live the way Ilias wanted them to, i.e. poverty, while the leaders live in luxury. Shows that Ilias disappearing wasn't all good. Witch Village is not really well established, since we are finding it already finished with the revolt, most of the ambushers dead, and now leaving us with the Chaos/Law options.
>>577197398Fair.>>577198849Also fair.>>577198249Inb4 but they beat the girls too.
>>577194529>>she's involved ONLY because she's fighting to stop global genocideFTFY*
>>577200121I mean, why else would she?If Ilias came down and congratulated Luka and Alice for making peace, and sanctifying their union. There wouldn't be a need to Alice to be on the front lines would there?
>>577198249>and think they slaughter an innocent townAre you seriously going to say the little boy Lilith diddled to death that didn't even know about sex was actually a rapist?
>>577201147Nta butPeople are weirdly good at ignoring the kids, yesss.
>>577200582That's not what I mean, but I have a feeling you know it and are just trolling, so whatever.
>>577201147Men have no rights, it's an honor to be killed by a girl through no fault of your own.
>>577198849>Am I wrong though?Yes. You're claiming anyone who doesn't agree with you is "exaggerating" or "headcanoning" things, while you yourself oversimplify what actually happens and what she does in the story. Also most of the problems in the world are stemming from Ilias and Black Alice instigating/perpetuating conflicts or Promestein using various sites as testing grounds (such as Grangold) as part of Ilias's overall plan. Other problems are either lesser conflicts (Alma's putzing around Grand Noah for fun) or unrelated to either party (like Orochi). Alice also intervenes at a lot of points to help Luka, in many cases saving him in the process, which is something her greatx16 grandmother couldn't even fathom of doing, not even to help Luka in battle but just in general like saving him from freezing to death after the yuki-onna fight.I am not telling you that you have to like Alice, because that's subjective and you should be allowed to dislike her. But people can disagree with you, and your perception of her is not the only one that exists, nor is it objectively correct either.
>>577201436You might wanna look up. We're holding the world's worst babysitter accountable here. So yeah, they DID slaughter innocents. It wasn't the whole town who weren't innocents, most were definitely evil, but still did. And monsters do understand that getting raped feels humiliating and can be traumatizing. The Shikipuff girl knew very well what they were doing...
>>577202182Meant for >>577201362
>>577202182>The Shikipuff girl knew very well what they were doing...ngl I kind of want the Lilith Sisters drawn in that style as a gag.
>>577202182Look up, yes. It's one of the rare time it's adressed. But in past threads?
>>577202182Funny enough, this wasn't the only village either.Speaking to Lilith about her escapades in Luddite reveals that it was the only time she and her sisters got personal. She wiped out other villages that didn't exist in the OG timeline impartially. She probably raped little boys in those villages too, hundreds if not thousands of little boys.
>>577202838Morrigan also threatened to do it to happiness/harpy village too and had to be physically restrained but neither of these ever get brought up, either. I guess it's just because Luddite is the one time you "see" them wiping out a town, but it really is one of the least-horrible things they did in the game, even in terms of casualties or innocent civilian deaths.
>>577202838>She probably raped little boys in those villages too, hundreds if not thousands of little boysgiwtwm
>>577203180The problem is if these villages stick around, they will end up like Rostrum. A chaos infected dump where everyone will die, but will not have the chance of being reincarnated when their world goes poof.
>>577203505I am aware of that, I'm just saying that's also the case with Luddite but people only ever treat them like they're unforgiveable demons for the one village that was mostly populated with pricks in particular, when they couldn't even commit to the "kill everyone present" part since they felt too sympathetic for the women and little girls and teleported them out before the dryfishing began.
>>577204265I mean, that is what she meant by making it personal. Morrigan even says she was going to kill everyone like they planned, but Lilith decided to give the abused girls their 2nd lease on life. Maybe Astaroth as more to say too, but she probably was on the lets kill everyone train like her blue idiot sister.
>>577203505Mhmm, interesting. Counterpoints:1.They don't have to rape them (physically, magically, or psychically) to do that. Again monsters understand that rape can be traumatizing. Someone is going to get those souls. We even later see this fuck up people.2.They are very clearly getting sadistic joy out of this. Even when they do it "quickly". People have to eat to survive, but I don't think anyone sane would see someone nut from preparing meals and not think he's needs a straightjacket.3.They turned the abused women into succubi. Not only does this go against their plan AND shorten their time due to diverging from the original timeline, but they would eventually have to kill those women for their plan to work. And again, the plan is for those souls to go somewhere. And those now-SUCCUBI souls could potentially go to HUMAN women.
>ran bobmtl 3.6 patch>ran Arzor-X 3.6 patch on topHoping for all text to be translated, but only machine-translated worst case scenario. Does doing it this way replace things that were translated from bobmtl with Arzor-X translation? Would prefer human translation when possible, and I had trouble finding documentation on the bobmtl translation.Or does the patcher for both files look for specific Japanese characters that are then overwritten, thus making the Arzor-X patch not really apply?
>>577206295bob mtl should have the arzor patch included and there is a most updated version lying somewhere in the threads that someone will be able to link you to, maybe. Applying the arzor patch on top of it undoes the MTL part because the patcher patches the entire game and not just whatever lines the TL has changed (my dumbass tried this as well)
>>577207606Holy hell, based thank you. I assume running the Bob mtl patch again should undo my fuckup?
>>577207946yes, that should workif you notice anything fucky later you can always take your save file and put it in the folder of a raw JP version and patch that again.
So, like, how do these child requests work? Is Setouchi only allowed to make them for girls he designed? Because so far it has only been that way.
>>577209784He has denied commission requests before, but he has done a few children characters that weren't his. Sonya being one of them.
>>577210342>he has done a few children characters that weren't his. Sonya being one of them.I mean in this character introduction style. In that pic the kids were little more than background characters.
Question Why does Sonya have a copy of the battle fuckers handbook? What's this naughty priestess plotting behind the scenes?
Well that says a lot about her attitude towards humans.
>>577212496Whose guidance? real question, we seriously need that IRL , some downright devious motherfuckers are in charge right now
>>577212496You know, I forgot this quote from her.Ilias must have believed her fat sister was naturally good, since she wanted her to help guide mortals along with her.
>>577212496it is a monster girl gameeverything not a monster girl is evil and all the monsters are dindusthen again she made humans so she'd knowthat little human village girl? evil to the core. Rotten little being.
Funny you mention childhood friends.
>>577213059Luka is fine with traitors, and is happy recruiting them.The PC is a den of scum and villainy.
Yes please.
>>577213570ya can't just stick it in any monster that offers it LukaLukaaaaaaa
>>577212847No they're not.Plenty of the angels and humans are good too.
>>577213763It's pretty obvious that the guy you replied to was joking anon
>>577214004with some of the things said seriously here half the time I honestly can't tell anymore
Your granny was wise. not even humans like human politics.
I'm getting the feeling your family wasn't really a happy one to begin with.
>>577214306
>>577141709Sex with the 7th (alice mom)
angels are just heaven themed monster girls.
>>577214306Ilias laughed, so it was pretty fun for her.
I just realized that lamias feel so natural to me because my first MG awakening was Deis from playing breath of fire II on the GBA. And I suppose mermaids look similar enough and they're also very common.
>>577215305Isn't Deis/Blue stupid hard to get without a guide in BoF2?
Did the queen ant being in a cell not set off any bells ilias?
>>577215502Never mind that, if she's locked up how the hell are we having a fight with her between the bars?!
>>577215647Ilias and the queen ant collectively smash up the bars just so we can fightAlso, turns out beating shikimamo DOES have dialogue!
>>577215502You mean the Ant Queen is not sending her daughters to die like cannon fodder in a war of extermination?
>>577215467i loved that game to death I think. I'm not sure if I used a guide but given that it was so long ago I likely didn't and just autistically followed the little hints the game gave me or looked it up after stumbling into the hint. Checking the guide now, it looked simple enough. Talk to someone then go to the secret location. Maybe it was really stupid hard in another entry for the title.
>>577215828yeaupshe was a fun fight in part 2 proper honestly, but at this point you no doubt bowled over her lol
>>577216084It is relatively simple once you know how to do it, it's just that knowing to talk to that random ass npc and go to some vaugeposted location isn't exactly intuitive. It's not quite strategy guide bait like the best armor is for BoF1 but it's up there
>>577215502for all she remembers about the true history you'd think she'd recall the part where Promestein had her locked in the basement to test the prototype seal
>>577216917The Ant Queen tried to take over a innocent human nation, make its inhabitants into slaves, and maybe even rape its king.Ilias remembers a evil monster quite well.
>>577211737There's a reason why she has too many scenes with the hand pleasure weapons
Forgot about this side quest. Shame such a funny part of the vn became like this. retarded end to a retarded side plot.
>>577223901what part of the vn was it again cuz a lot of stuff is technically sidequests. you can just skip magistea and head to gnome immediately in the vn as an example.
>>577224094The one where you save the males from being raped by succubi who them heroically offer themselves to be milked like cows afterwards. was fucking hilarious.
>>577224094anon's talking about succubus village, I can recognize the merchant location
>>577224260yeah thats a sidequest in the vn go get salamander immediately.A lot of stuff is sidequests when you consider the hell that is only amira.
>>577224339I never did only amira, apparently if you skip any of the locations the place you skipped will be destroyed in part three and everyone there will die, and the game's 'victory lap'/ending becomes progressively worse. only amira pretty much turns the world into a MW tier blasted heath shithole.
>>577224720One tap win is the only way of getting the worst ending. You are far too low level if you just go straight to the spirits. The only places around if I remember is Enrika, Iliasport, and the ML caste at the end.
So I beat Search of my Maid withing a Book and... that's it? Has anyone confirmed if there is a true end or expanded ending? I liked that they went far in the Bad Ends giving everyone dedicated passage through days and interactions but good end is just the MC goes back to every day life, always fucking the maid and the Queen ominously noting with all the EXP accumulated so far he is now changed and will always be vulnerable to succs. All that indicated this isn't over yet but there is nothing I find to do else.
>>577212496She's right btw, she just forgot about herself and her fat snake sister.
>>577226486Kill her. had enough of women like this in peniban.
poor granberia.
Interesting. Does she spoil Nero's identity this quickly in both routes?
Indeed she was.
Yeah. Sure.
AIEEEE KEKLIAS DON'T LOOK
>>577242454It's correct, she would instead nuke the entire city that way there are no witnessess to spread the message about how she's a genocidal maniac for killing m*nsters, an objectively abhorrent and evil race.
>>577242049I'm pretty sure that line is the same both times, the only real difference I remember with the white rabbit is in the first tartarus when Ilias is wondering why Luka can open the door, when Ilias mentions that it's not possible for a human to open it up the white rabbit makes a little jab at the fact Luka isn't pure human by saying that Ilias should know whose bloodline he inherited while in Alice route there is no mention of that at all.
>>577242679the race is the same as her sisters.. and we know ilias likes her sister.
HAHAHAHAHAAH
>>577244764ANON NO DON'T TOUCH THE TREE!!!
What does SHE taste like?
>Archifiend level 10>chaos time>It's the same shit as Muruko's skill that stops literally everythingSo I guess Luka can just choose to turn off enemy turns now i guess.
>>577244972Japs think seafood is good so that.
>>577244972My gut says something like calamari or octopus, but I've never had octopus so I guess I'm leaning towards calamari. Something mild and surprisingly light, definitely in an addictive way. Maybe just a bit sweet like eel.
GAAHAHAHAHAHA
>>577246260So how does it feel to be finally playing the game?
>>577246494It's beautiful.
>>577245026ZA WARUDO
What are the differences for switching sides at the Great Decision vs sticking with the same girl from the start? Anything significant or just some minor story changes? Like I noticed on my second playthrough when siding with Ilias that Alice's mom is still alive but I'm guessing she still just gets killed immediately anyways?
>>577248731You skip the Alice mommy fight and get weird retcons about the snow heaven arc
>>577248731The difference is mostly extra context and a new perspectives, and some minor adjustments to plot points like those yeah.
>>577248731Nothing major, all differences get sorted by the time you leave the monster lord castle, in the case of going Ilias to Alice Marcellus immediately shanks Alice the 15th before she can activate the barrier and peaces out.
>>576951609I played the original triology way back in 2014ish and was around in these threads for a while. Skipped out on Paradox initially because I didn't want to play it until it was fully out and mostly properly translated. Recently got back into playing eroge kino with the Black Souls Steam release last year, then played Demons Roots, then decided to check back in on Paradox so I'm finally playing it now.
>>577249698>I didn't want to play it until it was fully outFor me, it's deliberately missing out on things for so long that somebody got their Bachelor's, a new career, and moved out into their own house before I decided to play a fucking video game
>>577251451over a fucking decade.
>>577251451I just personally prefer consuming things all at once rather than needing to wait between installments and replay/rewatch/reread shit to remember what's happening. Not like there wasn't plenty of other stuff to check out in the meantime. I am glad to finally be playing Paradox though, I really do love this series.>>577251571Between this and PSG 2 it's been a fun year for reliving shit that was extremely influential to high school me.
>>577249698I also was the same except that I was actively lurking and playing during the time when part 1 dropped. When part 2 did I was a little invested but then I somehow forgot about it between the covid and the TL wait. Coming back now and get to experience both part 2 and 3 was pretty good, all things considered.
>>577051983But what about the scene where the Alliance of Wisdom gets killed, doesn't Promestein say she sees the AW version of herself on the screen? Going off that I assumed our Promestein was from some other 5th universe that's just similar to the AW
>>577253060That was the Singularity version.Just more wacky multi-verse stuff.
>>577254693So basicallyAW Promestein did some experiment in the world's distant past and ended up in a Tartarus, gets found and recruited by Singularity LukaSingularity Promestein moved to the AW to work with the Alliance of Wisdom, gets killed, death is witnessed by AW Promestein over the screenIs that about right? I don't remember the Promestein recruitment event that well and you can't replay it on NG+.
>>577255208NTA but yes for the first part, and there's a point where Promestein even mentions how AW has changed. I don't recall it precisely but Furiels weren't that widespread. Overall the implication is that AW started working with the AoW after she disappeared. As for the Singularity World Promestein she never moved into AW. The alliance is in a pocket in space-time separate from everything else kind of like the Black Mansion. Laplace told you all the info about it.
>>577255208Technically, the Singularity version doesnt live in AW. She, somehow, created her own pocket dimension. It's probably the most impressive scientific feat in the game, but never really gets highlighted when it should.
>>577253060I don't remember if they ever clearly establish what world the alliance is from, it's simplest to assume it's the singularity crew.
after 135 hours it's finally happened!
>>577183534>Assume for a moment the VN didn't exist and somehow Paradox got made, Alice would struggle to be Top 50ish. She got a huge boost from MGE and the freshness of the VN. Clear that bias and Alice is struggling to stay within 50 ranks of Ilias, while Ilias is taking a Top 10.Feel like this is a retarded way to analyse things when it's pretty obvious why Alice gets less development in Paradox compared to other characters, she already got nearly a whole ~60 hour VN trilogy to herself. In the alternate world were Paradox was the only MGQ then Alice would've been given more attention in it instead of relying on knowledge of the VN for her characterisation.
I still don't like you
>>577256864wife
>>577259567wait are ilias' angels into vore?
Do you get a Grandeur Theatre equivalent for the part 3 characters eventually? The fact that they have no scenes there is very sad.
>>577260307Vore a Cupid and read her line.
>>577260520Probably not.The place is kind of occupied for most of Part 3.
insane character development even on Alice route
Do we get more slots at some point, I'm struggling to remove anyone from my party for subquests now.
>>577261604it gets increased later, maxing out at the end of part 2. But for sidequests you can just sub in the ones you need to do them before kicking them out again
>>577260520If we get one it will probably come with the big update, there is endless comedic potential with all the new characters.
https://xcancel.com/tokinokogiri/status/2087497574630457513One more MGQ guest character for Succubus Prison 2, you'll NEVER guess who
>>577261807NOOOOOOOOOO AAIIIIEEEEE
>>577261807Boring
>>577261807Meia should of been it.Yeah, she isnt a succubus, but the new reveal is kind of getting stale.
>>577261807T O M O R R O W
>>577262713If you want a real twist pick Eva.
Guys, when does the chrome doll appear in the pocket castle again? I wanted to farm some alchemy mats but she's not there.
>>577263125Oh its after the timeloop event. Shit.
>>576977389Wouldn't the golden route be more like this:
>>577261807should have been meia fight me
>>577263806>why not big tamamoBecause lolibaba erotic
>>577263806smolmamo is superior
>>577263806based
>>577263806No harem.TrTr said only lovey dovey monogamy, and brutal embarrassing rape. But no harem.
>>577263891>>577263969YES
>>577263891because tamamo said she prefers looking like that in paradox. im not joking.
>>577176160>get furry game>art is good>choose to draw trash milf womenLame.
>>577264323huh, what? when? i mean it's good she recognizes the superiority of her small form
>>577264637t.EDP 445
>>577263806Because Minimamo is superior in every regardIf all you care about is spheres and balls, she has you covered still.
>>5772646591. being big makes her fkn exhausted.2. she likes looking cute.iirc these are the main reasons. Monster world mamo doesnt abide by this.
>>577264637The hags are fine. The game progression sucking is the main problem it had.Also no human MC
>>577264942>ballsSeems kind of gay
>>577265081Yet many complain if girls don't have them on their chest
>>577265081We already established with>>577099837that people are bisexual not gay.
speaking of tamamowhich route(s) should i go with if i want the most screentime with her?
>>577265995it's obviously Alice's route, but well... She's kinda done dirty in general...
>>577266057they added a second tamamo but also consider she has been depressed before part 3. can the alma favortism please stop trtr.
>>577263891Shikimamo looks super hot design wise but it seems she's an asshole as a tradeoff. Shame.
>>577266364seriously alma gets 2 fucking collabs 1 she shares with lilith another by herself.
>>577266452Succ Sue sill continue to get everything
>>577266057gotcha>done dirty>>577266364>depressedjeez, what did trtr mean by this? >>577266452just imagine shikimamo in succubus prison 2
>>577266416Shikimo is a downgrade
>>577266669personality wise, sure. design wise, only if you're a lolibaba supremacist.
>>577266714Shiki can't draw boobs right
I'll handle Tamamo Ball
>>577264096See >>576980495
>>577267097I like his boobs.
>>577264323Sounds like she's coping.>>577264954NTA, but that's not what he asked.
>>577267097idk what you mean chaos and vinum in the collab's scene is right there.
Alma is also getting added to tokinokogiri's new game...
>>577267901>literal cradlesnatcherAnd apologists will still say monster girls aren't ebil
>>577267901Didn't know Alma was into toddlercon
>>577268040Succubi will fuck anything with a pulse, this is known
>>577267901me when scoliosis
>>577267901Needs correction.
>>577268040Wow i forgot he got de-aged that hard in the ending.
In sorry succubi have to hear this but...Raping babies is... Bad...
>>577268078Wait does this make them white women?
>>577268967It's mostly insects that fuck dogs
>>577268891This is hate speech against succubi!
>>577267901So are we not going to get dryfishing? I just dont see that toddlercon SP succubus just letting the collab bait eating her baby property.
>>577269076Baby Chrome
>>577269125nope, just eternal pleasure iirc
>>577267202your copes are of no interest
I wish there where GOOD world of darkness video games with monster girlz in them...
>>577269570be the change you want to see in the world
>>577269685Paradox would blackbag me for using the 20th anniversary rules and lore, and not their shitty V5 rules and lore
>>577268891Yeah i know baby succubi are varmints. They keep being babies that rape things.
>>577269931It's okay if the babies are the ones doing the raping.
>>577270065>thisp3 spoilers tho.
>>577260520>>577261708I desperately need a skit with the AD 4 knights
>>577269417>Pointing out reality is cope
>>576978161Holy based
bwos, i'm getting cold...
>>577271693It will be okay anon, trust me
>>577271693Marry a Polar Bear girl
>>576978161>meanwhile "sonya getting ragebaited by monsters wanting to fuck Luka" is a thing in paradox:
>>577271979Sonya has no ground to stand on because she isn't real
>>577270823>confusing non-canon endings and headcanon for realityTake your meds
>>577272214nothing is canon anymore and everything is. cuz you know a luka canonically got boinked by the fishy pirates thus implying there are actual multiverse shenanigan lukas out there who got got like that and some monsters by default are a harem innately.
>>577271979because sonya wants him for herself ya dingus
>>577272214Ignoring that everything is canon, apparently, those are still good endings, even if not the "true" ending.
The canon ending is Luka marries the 4 spirits living in his head
>>577272214>>577273197Wait isnt there 3 beelzebubs that he gets fucked with during that schticht to repopulate. isnt this a harem end?
>>577273408Only 4?
>>577274126Yeah, but a bad end.
>>577274196Sylph, Sylph, Sylph, and Zylphe
>>577274490Yeah and guess who is not a ring candidate. the canon daughter mother and only forced h-scene in paradox collab is a side story which it's hild.
>>577274804artificial insemination + skip scene = test tube baby
>>577274991still your sperm dude with the intent to specifically get her pregnant..
I played part two around 2017-18 and I think it's time to dip my feet into part three after the modest wait.So, my guess is I need the 3.06 Raw, 3.04 BobMTLV 2.1.3 then use Tiny improvements + Bobmtl for 3.06?
Fresh Bread >>577277497
