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>What... is this?
Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ

>Where can I watch the cup?
https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html (4CC)
https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague (VGL)

>Ongoing Invitationals
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/VGL_Co-Op_Cup

>Upcoming Cups
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2026_4chan_Autumn_Babby_Cup

>Upcoming Invitationals
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League_9/11:_Never_Forget
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Tag_Team_Cup_7
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Akko_League_VII:_/fluff/_Bottomed_Girls
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Divegrass_Before_Christmas_7:_Melty_Under_The_Christmas_Tree
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/LAN_Party_the_4th:_Ultimate_Kartin_Tourney
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Very_Genuine_and_Legit_Vidya_Game_League

>Wiki:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page

>Sekkrit Code
37pebis

>DLC Password
divegrass

>stats
https://isthisliv.com (4CC)
https://sql.implying.fun (VGL)

>Booru
https://isthisliv.com/booru

>VOD Archive
https://implying.fun

>Other videos
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos

>PES Info
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2017
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2018

>Previously
Coop Cup
/4ccg/ 0 - 6 /akg/
I <3 getting it out of the way
Curse of White PC Case
Cipher is younger than 24
APOLOGI/zzz/E
/1992/ keeps haunting the general
'farmer melty
shitposting
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>don't show up
>win 3-0
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This blowout pattern is starting to get annoying.
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>>576952494
address me
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>>576952494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFkguq89YU
Repeating myself, but how many dead VGL teams, besides /esg/? I think /pcrg/ has a new manager, but what about /alg/. This is important for us /gremlin/ fans.
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>>576952674
why did you do it
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>>576952742
making Kevin Nash in 1992 look like a joke
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[Good News] VGL27 will be on PES19 where blowouts never happen
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Will the test cup glazers address the blowout situation?
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[Good News] VGL27 will be on PES14 where ???
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>>576952787
>cleans his bro
What's the issue here?
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>>576952756
try whores rabi
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Music makes you lose control
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>>576952696
>confirmed ded (EoS)
/esg/
>confirmed ded (manager/caretaker stepping down without a known successor)
/utg/, /kfg/, /alg/, /nikg/
>possibly ded (not EoS yet but possible)
/snowg/
>possibly ded (manager/caretaker stepping down but there can be a successor)
/1999/
>shaky (for whatever reason)
/hdg/
>/ink/
/ink/
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>>576952949
holy
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>>576952949
I look like this.
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>>576952949
tattoo doko
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>>576952949
literally me
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>>576953083
>/alg/, /nikg/
pls no, we need gremlins...
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>>576953313
bee
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>>576953190
I look like this.
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>>576953313
kill yourself
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The most scripted third goal just happened
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Bros, PES18 seems to be even more scripted than PES21
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OOOOOOOOOO WAITER, ANOTHER 3-0
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sorry, i had to rig the .exe to not allow BLU to get ahead too much to keep it exciting
:)
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VGL 27 is gonna be shitshow with either 18 or 19, Fox is a cursed engine.
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These last two matchdays have been the most boring matchdays since spring 19
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nobody said this EVER
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>manager is away
>literally 0 changes
>3-0
Is /hanny just le bad?
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>>576953919
When it's 10 matches in a row it's just PES18 being bad
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>>576953919
Hard to tell if a team is good or bad or PES is just deciding who wins by 3
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UMMMMM BLOWOUT BROS?????
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So this is how they fixed her...
https://files.catbox.moe/bnhiz1.jpg
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>>576954061
Yeah? Huh? Yeah? Huh?
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>>576954061
What were you saying?
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>>576954180
Damn she's bigger than me...
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>>576954180
this but with denko's oc
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Time for /trick/ to roll the god seed and win 5-0
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PES18 had the lowest bar of all time to clear. It just had to be better than PES15 and PES21
>10 blowouts in a row
AND IT FAILED
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>>576954057
>>576954006
>team with a bad export/bad 1 half mementum
>managers not doing proactive changes to weather the storm
>exposing themselves even further immediately after conceding
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>>576954485
yep yep pes18 is perfect yep yep
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it's okay bros we're just one patch away from the perfect PES and it will be on 18
huh where's my copper?
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>>576954535
yep yep
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>>576954485
>team with a bad export/bad 1 half mementum
explain how one team can be on 2 sides of the blowout
>managers not doing proactive changes to weather the storm
hanny used both voluntaries and did proactive changes
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Time for the best match of the day
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Raped 17babs hours
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>>576953919
>is /hanny/ manager bad?
Approaching 4000 days of failure
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>>576954776
/hanny/'s decade is swiftly approaching
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>>576954626
I would honestly agree with you, it's a valid point, but I also have a feeling /hanny/ is just bad. Their GP/CP striker lineup is not working at all and lives and dies with Rance. Only time it worked was when /zzz/ made a retarded +1 change and gimped themselves in what was a competitive match untill that change on 75.
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>>576954626
Most of the /hanny/ changes seemed good.
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dimesbros... when is our humiliation ritual gonna stop...
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>>576954930
>dimesbros
pic unrelated
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>>576954916
explain hanny 3-0 zzz
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For 10 matches in a row, teams have just been bad. Please don't point out that they were on both ends within those 10 matches that is irrelevant.
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>>576955030
I literally did in the last sentence.
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I :anatomically_correct_heart: pes18
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>>576954626
>>576954916
So what I get from this is that 18 is more finicky about what works and what doesn't work. Like say the furfag was saying how mazing run ruined the export. And on top of that it got momentum like 19 so a team will just get raped when these combine.
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>>576955086
This but unironically. I feel like mementum-heavy PESes like 18 and 19 require a slightly different approach to managing to weather the mementum with a defensive preset and then go offensive, otherwise the team which got mementumed in the 1 half is going to be blown out.
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>>576955294
>And on top of that it got momentum like 19 so a team will just get raped when these combine.
Massively nerfing defenders does that
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>>576955397
So it happened again. It's what we got with 21 for the last VGL
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congrats to uma on winning
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>>576955294
Yeah that is definitely true. You can lose before the tournament even starts with a bad export. I think that's also true for 19.
>>576955397
Perhaps.
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THE HUMILIATION RITUAL CONTINUES
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>>576955397
>-5 to ball winning
>massively
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/trick/ is probably the only export that is legitimately bad.
>in before they pull a 4-1 comeback
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>>576955727
it would be funny
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>>576954916
/hanny/ are fucking around with some flat 442 because it worked on PES15 and rhs is retarded.
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m-maybe wingers are just byad and that's why no one runs them and you're stick with effectively 3 to 5 formations depending on the PES and ruleset
(this kills the Crimson)
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>>576955727
Haha well...
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[good news] ASS confirmed for tonight
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>>576955727
>/prick/ is a 21 merchant "team"
kekybrap
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>>576955929
Crimson won a star using 3-4-3 on PES 21, no one should ever take him seriously.
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>>576955963
It's real, consider this the anchor post
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Based flesia throwing to help out REDbros
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>>576956034
anchor post for what retard? you're supposed to say qa anchor or image anchor you fucking inbred troglodyte fuck
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>>576956153
Trip on ratnigger.
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>>576956176
how about ir rape you HOWB ABOUT THAT HUH
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>>576954916
>Their GP/CP striker lineup
>flat 442
both were meta on the original 18 run btw forgot to mention
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>>576956220
you won't do shit, I'll make a pussy out of your urethra and you'll like it
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>>576956196
Not her
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>defense is eating shit
>change attack
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Please /trick/ go +1 or +2 it will be extremely funny
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[Surprising news] 18 is actually not fixed.
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325 losing against 442 happens ONLY in 18 btw.
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>/zzz/ is responsible for about 75% of GRN's points
Elite and muscular
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>have a working ruleset and tournament format for 18
>fumble both
another fumble by fumbleperson
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>>576956493
Yeah this match literally doesn't tell us anything because /trick/ is just dogshit.
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[VGL news] VGLco member Reso just confirmed that we'll be using patched 19 in the future
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:chowayo: :chowayo: :chowayo:
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>>576952494
Is he even watching or just afk doing whatever else.
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>>576956868
I'm watching a cs2 match rn
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>>576956868
last i heard he was asking for cp on the cord
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>>576955471
>>576955397
>you don't get it bro, massively nerfing defenders on 18 is bad and we should let them be bro
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>>576956603
He made no decisions for this and handed it completely off to the guy who did the last 18 tournament THOUGH
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>>576956990
maybe nerf them just a little bit then?
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>>576956990
Patrician.
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>>576957043
that's our fumblevani
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>>576956990
This was the first cup on 18 ever and I'd like to see something again on this ruleset now that a meta is more or less established to see if the 1-1 changes but it'll have to be in a few years when I've forgotten about how back this tournament was
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Giga dimes spaghetti
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>>576956990
Try nerfing them less? Idk what you want from me I'm not the one wanting to fix those versions, like with 21 it's looking like the alternative is just having one team blowing the other one up with nerfs or 2-1 games.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA52uNzx7Y4
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>aryanteen killed /trick/
yup, it's a good pes
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you can say whatever you want about blowouts but this is objectively the funniest pes.
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>>576957458
/trick/ was bound to get exposed in any other version
>>576957490
It has potential, I want it to be good.
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>>576956990
Bump them to 75, you have to factor another thing honestly. Nowadays there's a card bloat that back then wasn't there.
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[good news] /trick/ is saved by former /vn/ manager
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>>576957490
That was unironically 21
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>>576957490
The goal variety alone makes it unique.
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>/vn/ tranager gives advice to ratbastard
>instantly score
well?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLFFNVk6hxg

wow beaners are mogging us
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>>576957629
no? 21 was awful
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>>576957725
No it was hilarious. Show me another PES where the ball got stuck in a corner, or a player got stuck in a circle, or a player teleported.
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>>576957725
21 was funny as fuck
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>>576957712
>21
DOA (the expression not the video game series)
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>>576957712
>Argentinians
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/trick/ losses don't matter because the export is genuinely awful btw
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>>576957816
okay name another funny moment that wasn't the game absolutely shitting itself
>>576957827
it really wasn't
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>>576958109
dimes trvke
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>>576958109
and yet the manager is raped already
>I'm out T_T play me as an auto next match
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>>576958109
so is the game, source material, music, aesthetics, manager and fans
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>>576957725
Comedy wise it was a top 2 PES
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>>576957490
the constant wacky box spaghetti I keep seeing is what is starting to convince me only giving 18 a chance, I want to see more silly shit like that Straight up Retard goal that happened to /trick/ just now. It also looks like not just mostly 433/442 is competitive here because it looks like the 451 /zzz/ is running is breddi gud.
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>>576958193
raped
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>>576958193
sad but true
but atleast its not /bag/
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>>576958186
He sounds so rapable
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I'm being completely serious, we should considering switching to the Test Cup ruleset for week two. This is quickly turning into unwatchable blowout slop. These defender nerfs are baaaaad.
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>>576958209
People did question why /zzz/ lost to /hanny/ but I'm thinking the flat 442 got rid of /zzz/'s wide advantage over the 442s and 433s.
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You can tell Gio genuinely thinks he deserves to live
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anyone has the test machine guy's results? how many of them were blowouts?
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>>576958342
just learn to enjoy the bad rules
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>>576956817
Why isn't this on the field for us?
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Didn't know the /trick/ guy was this whiny...
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>>576958370
the lolcows getting raped about his tournament make it worth it. But I hope we don't use this shit format for VGL
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>>576958512
nomo forbid it
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>"bro you don't get it, the old cups on 18 were bad only because we didn't nerf defenders, we can fix and save 18!"
>game turns into 21 level of handholding
>"well it's not like the old cups were bad anyway, people just didn't know what to run so we should go back to vanilla 18!"
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Is "we should just give it a chance" this versions "we need to get it out of the way"
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I don't think the 'co is gonna give 18 a chance but it's been sadistically funny to watch so far
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>>576958570
attention whore who browses this general 24/7, got a bit of success winning coinflips on 21 starts losing (even if invitational) and shows his true face.
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I <3 giving it a chance
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>>576958762
I also <3 getting it out of the way
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>>576958664
>only because we didn't nerf defenders
we literally did and it was fine, the copper golem decided to kneecap them though, maybe he was inspired by the dancing triangle's 21 rules
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>>576958667
>>576958713
Kek
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>>576958664
the more derpy and retarded the game is the more fun it is to watch and therefore the better it is
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The greencord is now in full on meltdown after /trick/'s ragequitting
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>>576958890
Someone get /mlp/ on the phone. We NEED the Derpy Patch.
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Time for /akg/ to win
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>>576959162
>/civ4xg/
manager wouldn't care
>/lcg/
managers wouldn't care
>/zzz/
think he's just relieved to be winning, manager wouldn't care
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>>576958573
>the lolcows getting raped about his tournament make it worth it.
You mean the 18 shill organizing it?
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Time for GRN's redemption arc to begin
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>>576959162
>isreal
>>576958750
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>>576959386
YABA DABA DOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>576959386
AND NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWW
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>>576959386
Nice trip
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>>576959386
KWABOTY KEKYPOW
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>>576959386
Do I even need to say it?
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>>576959279
>team that doesn't care about being a team spoons
>team that actively help and encourage each other wins
holy fvarking narrative dimes
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>>576959502
still tony
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>>576959556
red isn't spooning though
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>>576959386
KWABflesia...
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>>576959386
These new people are certainly not cut for managing, they got the illusion that managers should win all the time. Most veteran managers have also got shit cups where nothing works and that's part of the experience.
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>>576959386
>>576958937
kekypow
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>>576959386
I don't want to kill this dimes nyoooo
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>>576959386
>kwabbing out over a fucking invitational
Jesus christ you ubereats era kids are mental midgets
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the day the dimes died
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>>576959667
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18 killed managers even before the cup on it started
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>>576959667
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>>576959667
>>576959660
>>576959502
>>576959439
>>576959494
Gotta say you're annoying miserable niggers
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It's a falseflag btw
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>>576959662
I wouldn't say this is exclusive to new managers
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>>576960065
how am I miserable when I'm having fun
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>>576959662
>t. nepgen manager
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>>576959819
if anything the schizolarperniggers are trying too hard here
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>>576959662
I mean being 'farms light definitely contributes. /4ccg/ has genuinely gotten worse than the talkshows about this shit because their wholesome chungus figureheads don't disavow this shit.
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>PES21 luckshitter is quitting over an invitational
This is a new level of retarded
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>>576960095
It's not
t. Knower
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>>576960187
Alex couldn't write a sentence that long.
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>>576960065
Stop being a pussy then. Literally every manager has gone through a bad streak and got it much worse than you and most of them didn't act this raped in front of their fans
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when I realize that I've made a shit export I just put on my "I <3 getting it out of the way" shirt and just accept that I'll eat shit for 3 matches
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>/gdg/frogs fell for it and started a chimpyfreak
uh ohhy!
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>>576959279
I don't lose my hair over it but I feel for the guy. Some of you are obsessed callous shitposters (obsessed to the point of mental illness) and I despise that.
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[good news] dimes did not die
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>>576960452
you can't lose your hair if you don't have anything to lose anymore
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>>576960518
Lmao, good one anon.
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>>576960452
good job getting some wins bro *rapes you several times* but don't give me attitude again
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NO NO N O NO NO NO
WAIT WAIT WAIT WIAT
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A BLOWOUT
WAIT WAIT WAIT NO NO N O NO NO NO
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>2 good teams play
>it's not a blowout
erm....? kekypow?
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>>576960518
Baldypow
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>>576960586
Aiiiiiiiiiiieee
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It was just bad managers and bad match ups.
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>>576960452
Why hoyoverse girls are all beauties?
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>>576960719
because you're not white
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>>576960719
Good taste bro!
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>>576960452
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy for you this invitational so far, it's looking like you are getting much needed experience and are getting better at management, Hope you'll have a decent enough run in vgl27 bwo.
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>>576960607
>>576960627
Yeah?
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>>576960846
Thank you. I wish people weren't taking it this seriously.
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>>576959386
>>576960218
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>>576960867
>2-1 is a blowout
wait, why are you wearing a "I <3 grasping at straws" shirt?
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>>576960452
serious hat posterroo
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>>576960719
Dunno, but I like them!
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>>576960945
>people fell for it
kwabbypow
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>>576961064
holy fuck
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>>576960945
Well at least he can pretend it was a falseflag now. Stop quitting after every loss.
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>spend all of VGL26 complaining about PES21
>finally get to run an invitational on PES18
>don't test the ruleset and get 11 blowouts in a row
>don't test the UI and it crashes multiples times
>what is everyone expecting me to do! it's not final!
O GIO
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>>576961321
Something wrong?
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>2 good teams play
>suddenly not a blowout and changes actually matter
I wonder...
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listen if the only options are blowouts or the worst games to watch we are not using this version
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>>576961649
no... I just need to do something
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>>576962029
How is that the worst match? That was unironically one of the only good matches in the last two days
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>>576962029
somehow more raped than the guys getting blown out
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>the best tactic in the cup is to go -1, park the bus and then just punt it to your golds
thank you copper man
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>>576961472
>spend all of VGL complaining
ftfy
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bob melty on the 'cord
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>>576962029
but we did use 21?
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>>576962194
bob not act like a raped bitch for 1 game challenge
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bob needs to fucking relax
its an invitational
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>listen I'm being straight up this weekend has been much worse than Summer and VGL26
is she right?
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>>576962376
Summer was the best 15 cup by far so he isn't wrong
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>>576962376
No. If BoB said this then doubly so. Stupid nigger can't mickey mouse his way out of getting GAPED and loses his shit.
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gypsy damage control hours
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>>576962467
relax on the racism pal
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>>576962376
It appears we have been watching both a different Summer cup and a different weekend because I enjoyed Summer and this weekend has been better than I was expecting it was going to go.
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I really wanna fuck the /zzz/ horse
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melty level upgraded to nuclear
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>>576962947
If she doesn't have four legs and hooves she's not a horse.
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>>576963065
Meltycon level?
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bob needs to calm his fucking tits
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>it's another gio sabotages his own attempt to weasel his way into a position of power episode
you love to see it
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>>576963264
screenshot? not in the discord.
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>>576963162
Level 4, PES 21 is now confirmed for the next VGL
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>>576963425
>yeah I'd prefer not to only do 17/19 either but this is the most bored I have ever been watching divegrass
>the most enjoyable part has been counting the number of blowouts
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Why is chat all orange?
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PES 15
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>>576952494
Has there ever been a cup (4cc, vgl, vtl, whatever) where at least one group had all autopilot teams?
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>>576963534
it's yellow though
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>>576963526
that's true honestly
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BLUkeks...
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>>576963592
VTL is all autopilots dawg.
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>>576963526
That's the only right things he's said.
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>>576963624
t. bob
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>>576963696
Wtf, I didn't know that.
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[/4ccg/ original theory] denko, raped by 18 discourse, cares more about his circlejerk tournament than finding a potential ruleset for vgl
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>>576963629
Yeah?
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BLOWOUTBROS????????
I DONT FEEL GOOD
I'M DYING....
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>>576963718
>>576963624
you both sound raped
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blowoutbros your response ???
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do you think Reso is secretly ashamed of bob which is why he is never seen after a loss?
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>>576963425
>there is 0 purpose for PES18, what does it offer that none of the other PES versions do
>yeah bro I like lofted throughball and then a lofted throughball and then how about a lofted throughball oh here's a corner nevermind lofted throughball
>spin2win didn't happen as much as the lofts and it was seen as the biggest negative of all time
What's unique to 21 besides collective suffering lol
>aesthetics, animations, spin2win, funny shit, 343 being good (and banned)
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>>576963425
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@therapedmancer hurry and help /gfg/ win this there's no mazing run excuse now
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>>576964038
what is incorrect here
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>>576964071
holy fucking meltdown
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>>576964038
I love bobelties because it's usually all trvkes but in a raped fashion
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BOB.... BLOWOUTFRIENDS
ITS OVER FOR US
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>>576964181
i helped them telepathically just now
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>>576963935
Most original gio post
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>>576964071
that's it? No namecalling or anything? Most of this reads like normal opinions
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When will BoB just admit he's a 21 merchant like Pilky? atleast Pilky had the humility to admit he's only really good at 21.
>>576964403
Not every post disagreeing with the vgl equivalent of LTG is the copper merchant.
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>>576964023
This isn't even a secret he sometimes comes in to say "chill man" and then leaves in embarrassment.
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Entire BLUcord working overtime to defend their master.
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why is the /b/ habbo hotel raid hyp playing as /gfg/ goalhorn?
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/gfg/ should be banned until they get a better audio export
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>>576964481
BoB has an Elite 2nd place with /vg/ on 18 which is basically the only time 18 was used
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>>576964481
>When will BoB just admit he's a 21 merchant like Pilky?
he got top 4 on 15, 17, and 19 too didn't he
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Why are those offsite niggers clogging up the chat so much omg
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[cord news] BoB wants 21
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>>576964680
yeah he did but all of these could've been stars if it was pes21
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>>576964659
he was not managing /vg/ at the time sis, you're thinking of Reso
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>>576964659
no he doesn't, he joined a year after that 2nd place
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>>576964895
>>576964947
damn, Bob and Reso have been managing /vg/ for so long I pretty much attribute every cup after /vg/'s Elite win to them by default
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>>576965035
Reso even took a brief break
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>>576963443
>Level 4
Pretty low then.
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>>576965035
real niggas remember when Zil era /vg/ was consistently slurping their way out of groups in several elite cups
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Cute newfag
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one thing i dont understand, if the defense is bad
then why the other side isn't scoring
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>>576965510
never won a group and almost immediately ate shit every time. that was one of the biggest luckshit runs I've ever seen.
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>>576965150
right that was for military basic training iirc. Wonder what rank he is now
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beebs rigs for /gfg/? what a surprise
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>make a tournament where 12 teams play 50 times over two weekends
>PES18
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>>576965842
>pausing in the middle of /gfg/ attack
>rig for /gfg/
newbro...
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>rigs for /gfg/
>they immediately concede two goals
Huh?
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>>576965941
it's fun tho
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wtf blowoutbros what happened
>>
alright 'ccgbros there is no way we lose this one
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How come /gfg/ delivers best matches of the day two days in a row?
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time for the best match of the day
at least one rabi will win
>inb4 0-0
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>>576966404
invitational kings
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Time for the best match of the day
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/4ccg/ fans, I'd like to apologize in advance, I know many are calling this the most dimes match of the entire cup, but I simply didn't have time to prepare a special midcup to turn the entire team into chibis.
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>>576966537
>duped VGLco into picking 21 after LN3
>will dupe VGLco into picking 18 after CO-OP Cup
Fvaaaaark....
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Dimes vs Dimes FVVVAAAARKKK
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>>576965753
First Lieutenant in the chair force
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>>576966680
How does gfg keep doing it
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>>576966680
>>576966823
hmmmm how do I make this about /gfg/ being le offsite?
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>>576966894
You already did, just now
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fvark
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>>576966894
Just run a narrative that OFFSITE teams give OFFSITE sliders to OFFSITE managers in order to RUIN VGL by making VGLco pick DOGSHIT PESes
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>>576966823
>everything sucked except for this one match
>yeah but dude if we just change this one stat we can only get that match
>brooooooooo you're so right lets jerk each other off and watch cs2, VGL will be dimes kino
something like that
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>>576967012
Now show /4ccg/'s reds.
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This will end in penalties
t.knower
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when does /4ccg/ play?
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Can't wait to eat some gaped chibi's ass
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>>576967275
dayum you're gonna eat an ass filled with my cum?
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>>576967270
now
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>>576964071
This guy single handedly won't allow us to use 18 or 19 ever again. So I guess we are going back to 17?
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>>576967448
yeah. thanks for beta testing
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>"Remove Rabi and put in Plapwing"
I can't believe Beebs is the Plapwing poster
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The 'toss!!
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AMOGUS
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>defenders are retarded and pushe the ball out of bounds on pure miscommunication
>nonmedal scores on the ensuing corner
so is this the power of 18?
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>>576968001
>>576967976
SUS
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>>576968050
it's hilarious and rapes the managers so we should do a league on 18 and this ruleset.
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>>576968050
18 is good for that kind of spaghetti alone
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>"oh fuck /4ccg/ is playing"
>turn into the match
>/trick/ immediately scores
>turn it off
sorry guys I'm bad luck
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how come 15 and 18 are the only pes where we can regularly see the striker chip the ball over the gk if they come out too far
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>>576968231
Thank you bro!
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we need the other side now
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>>576968609
Literally no one says this.
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>>576968652
aesfags would disagree (they're mostly caretakers or teamless anyway)
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>>576968609
no one says that though
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make this an emote please thanks
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>>576969000
get on it denko
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>Imagine losing to /trick/
I would retire immediately
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THREE
POINT
VENDING
MACHINE
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FVAAAAAAARK I wish I was as dimes as /trick/
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>good guy /4ccg/ giving /trick/ points so their manager doesn't retire
fvaark
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rape me and throw me in a ditch i give up this export is hopeless sorry foe the humiliation ritual lads
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>>576969264
Maybe Rabi should've stopped jobbing
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>>576969251
>and /4ccg/ loses again!
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CRIMSON-SAMA PLEASE SAVE US WITH YOUR GODAUTO AGAIN
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not like this...
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>>576969351
its ok, we still like you
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>>576969351
I hate you furry retard
>>
It's fine, it's just a rabi on rabi friendly match.
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>>576969351
we NEED fox players
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>>576969351
Raped and gaped by chibi award
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>>576969351
*rapes u*
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MEGA GIGA DIMES /trick/ rapes dimeless shitter /4ccg/
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>>576969679
but both teams dimes...
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>>576969351
This is because Lapwing and HMOFA aren't on the team
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>>576969730
yeah both teams are shit
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>>576969351
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>>576969351
you just got keeperbabbed, not a big deal.
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>>576969798
Raped
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>>576969351
trick got keeperbabbed hard.
you did well
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Dimeless shitter /trick/ withdraws points from our vending machine without paying
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>>576969823
nah man i cant keep making excuses i shouldve done changes but whatever changes they shouldve been i have no idea
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>>576969798
still dimes
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close enough
welcome back pes15
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>>576969989
wdym
i said they're shit
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>>576969351
uhhhhhh I'm gonna make more excuses for our invitroontional furryfucker manager losing easy games, kill yourself, kill yourself I mean that with a 100%
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Time for /hanny/traight to win
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Thanks for the make-a-wish win bros
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>>576970126
kill yourself
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>>576970126
Kill yourself smug ass faggot.
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>>576970126
Congrats bro!
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>>576970219
[Conspiracy theory] The 2huminati are the ones behind the 18 push.
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>>576970126
kill yourself
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>>576970126
*rapes you*
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>>576970126
welcome chibi fren
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>>576970219
weird that they allowed /4ccg/ to lose, but they work in mysterious ways
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>>576304252
I did it. I became the next Paulino Alcantara.
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THEY DID THE THING
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii7rJwZX2vE
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SAY THE LINE
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So, it happened again
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I'm kneeling right now
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>>576969351
I'm gonna say it
>implying we cared
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yup yup this is DOTY
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Fvark, that was the biggest moment of our sport when danteh scored a header goal.
>>
3757 days of failure
What can be done?
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>>576970786
>KFC
I MEAN....
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>>576971020
death of the year?
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>>576971249
danteeeh of the year
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>>576971191
He is based and that's all that matters.
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>>576971191
I recommend suicide
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>>576971191
>over 10 years
jesus
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>>576971752
Just waiting for the decade to end so the /hanny/ decade can properly begin
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>>576971790
Obese.
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>>576971858
gay
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>>576971790
fat bitch
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>>576971752
10 years no wins kekypow
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>>576971790
pumping...
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>>>/sp/157291159
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Dad, why is there an emote called :dantehwiththeheader2:?
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>>576972107
for me it's Kyoto Sanga FC
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>>576971752
>>576971191
Would you rather rhs manage your team or get an auto?
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>>576972369
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Did you ever see [VTL clip]
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>>576972369
RHS, he puts love into making the team look good and is god tier at PR. /hanny/ wouldn't have the fanbase has it if wasn't for his efforts, gacha tourists would never get it.
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>>576972616
Fat bitch
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oh my god /gfg/-/gbpen/ is really going to be the only game that vglco will use to justify pes18
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>DANTEH WITH THE HEADER is the only goal of the match
hfk
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>>576972693
Also /gfg/-/zzz/
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>>576972679
No u
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>>576972836
I know, I need to lay off the burgers
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>>576972616
Anna sexo
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>/hanny/'s decade
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>Beebs streams, /lcg/ wins
>Cipher streams, /lcg/ loses
>Cipher gets both double /lcg/ day matches
>Cipher gets 5 /lcg/ matches over Beeb's 3 /lcg/ matches
I'm nooticing
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trans vs trans coming up
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fugg
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>>576973293
/1992/ is playing?
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>/hrtg/ vs /xirg/
Finally, some kino
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>cipher is an itoddler
do I even need to say it?
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why did the blowouts suddenly stop
>>
this is pretty tight
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>>576973695
BoB's code injection was set to disable once he successfully discredited 18 (and got a win against /4ccg/)
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>>576973593
lol
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>>576971191
updating the wiki should do it
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>>576973695
18 heard BoB and immediately went "Yeah?"
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Where's the anchor post for ASS?
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whats this?
a newspaper for ants?
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/4ccg/ NEEDS Pochaco
>>
no
>>
no
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>>576973695
yeah?
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>>576974214
>>576974274
I said need instead of want for a reason
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>>576974287
you tell me
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What happened?
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>>576974008
>>576974162
here I got you
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>>576974393
literally their only good team is /xivg/ and they can't win every match
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>>576974393
I know but I can't tell you
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>>576974393
a certain chain of events
>>
REDdit is winning bigly
>>
Day of Total Blue Humiliation
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>>576974393
Reso isn't trying and Bob is too arrogant.
rhs is retarded.
GuyF was lucky earlier.
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>>576974393
Well, do I even have to say it?
>>
Me and Sovlmancer are getting married
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>>576975128
Who's the bull?
>>
Bullet Train bros, what are we playing as our victory anthem to end the day?
>>
>bob is too retarded to figure out the counter to lofted throughballs
>demands the ruleset to be thrown away
lmao
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>wake up
>people were giving the lolcow with a trip attention
holy fuck, I hate attention whores so much
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>>576975346
/gfg/ for giving us THE best matches on 18 and securing it for VGL27
>>
Starting to understand how /cm/ dominated 18
>>
FACT: PES18 meta is NOT managing
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>>576975235
rabi
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>>576975128
Me
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>>576975374
Many such cases!
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>>576975615
now i know why autos were banned from co-op cup
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I started playing PES 6 for the nostalgia...I havent made it out of group stages of the world cup. zero goals.
>>
>>576975779
kwab
>>
>>576975434
>wake up
the day is almost over bro
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>>576975434
kwab
>>
Looks like /xivg/, /gbpen/ and /hanny/ management will be banned from the next VGL.
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ASS doko
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Is there a thread for talking about sports games that isn't the cup only?
>>576975881
How do I start my manager career in here?
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what do I think about this?
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>>576976424
surprised that green is still competitive
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>>576976343
>How do I start my manager career in here?
/alg/ and /nikg/ need managers
you're hired
>>
>>576976424
:18isfixed:
>>
>top 3 teams
/xivg/
/zzz/
/umaJP/
>bottom 3 teams
/hanny/
/4ccg/
/trick/
>>
>>576976343
Not in this board at least
You could always start a thread yourself and see how it goes.
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>>576976593
>dimeless sweatlords
>dimeful chill guys
>>
>no 8-0-0 team
>no 0-0-8 team
this is nice
>>
So what do >we think after this weekend
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>>576976593
>bottom 3 teams
Lifelong failure
Brand new guy with no experience
New guy running memes
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>>576974393
/xivg/ can't win every single match
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>>576976850
PES18 might not be fixed after all, but it's still funny.
>>576976923
Who's banning them from that?
>>
>>576974393
/gbpen/ pulled one point and nothing much else, weird
but this keeps things more interesting for another weekend
>>
>>576975434
shut up you argie twat
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>>576976593
>Runnerup proving why they were runnerups
>Struggling manager finally getting his first hot streak
>Consistent manager is being consistent :gasp:
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>>576976241
Here
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>>576977065
How do you even come to this conclusion? Have you taken your geography classes on planet retard, perhaps?
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>>576977045
/gbpen/ has 8 points though
>>
Beebs stream
>funny quips
>no technical problems
>good matches
>doesn't even need commentators to provide good commentary
>NO CHANT TIMER
>black PC case
Cipher stream
>only worthwhile commentator is RHS
>PLAYER PLAYER....NO!
>I sure do love children! *repeat 100 times*
>technical problems
>chant timer
>all matches are blowouts
>white PC case
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>>576977245
I'm talking about today.
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>>576977482
>Beebs stream
>no technical problems
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>>576977482
>good matches
1 good match. which was his team
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>>576976850
18 is good.
people being raped by "blowouts" perhaps need to learn what each defense slider does.
same goes for lofted passes.
nigger, this is a new pes. if youre gonna cry about X tactic instead of using your brain to figure out how to stop it and throw a hissy fit and abuse your authority to change the rules or the pes version, i'm sorry but you are a little raped bitch.
yeah you know who you are. everyone does.
>>
>>576977482
nooticing
>>
>>576976850
>PES18
Very funny game, might not be fixed yet (or even in time for next VGL), but anybody writing it off is retarded. We need the heroics of testchud to figure out the specifics on rules.
>Event format
I'm enjoying it a lot. It's fun to root for teams I wouldn't care about otherwise, but I also like divegrass enough to use /4ccg/ so I care about that tournament win more than the average viewer. I can't really think of a way to incentivize random /lcg/ flairs to care about a match like /civ4xg/ vs /hsrg/ though.
Team variety is an issue. Without thinking too much about it, next one should have more teams per meta team (or more meta teams) and just not have every team play against every other team.
>>
>>576977662
He doesn't have a team since he's onsite
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>>576977482
so black is better? :carleyes:
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>>576977482
The Cipher-RHS combination was actually funny though.
>>
>>576977948
cuckypow!
>>
>>576977482
No chant timer is fucking retarded I hate teams who have chants that go on forever
Ban chants longer than 15 seconds
>>
>>576976850
18 has potential, the only worry are some blowouts which makes it be in a better place than 21 with so much time before VGL.
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>>576977675
>nigger, this is a new pes.
this PES has already been used what are you talking about
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>>576977675
same shit was said about 21 btw
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Ok /4ccg/ anons, I'm giving you a voice
What should I do besides killing myself
I wish to bee free, why do I keep doing this to myself, why do I bee
>>
>>576978187
just because we're repeating the same thing we did at the start of the year doesn't mean the same thing is going to happen. maybe you should try having short term memory loss.
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>>576978216
Rape Rapeape
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>>576978216
kill the UI making faggot first, then do yourself
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>>576978216
Put Pochaco back on the roster you coward, she's the key to all of this.
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>>576978216
get BoB to come up with his ruleset and if its worse than this we just take this.
i dont want 17 again. i dont want 19 again
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>>576976850
18 is unpolished, but there's certainly a potential with the right ruleset. Maybe Gio should listen to the guys on the 'cord and tweak the ruleset for week 2 a bit.
Agree with the other anon, event is pretty fun and beats your usual double elimination invitational, but it shouldn't be the same teams playing each other again. Maybe have bigger groups, where teams have to decide between them who plays who? Say, Red gets to pick their Blu opponents, and Blu gets Grn.
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>>576978216
Address this
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>>576978216
YOU ARE NOT THE COMMISSIONER OR EVEN A COUNCIL MEMBER I DO NOT CARE
>>
the fatnigger has no human rights, his opinion is of no value, same thing with the furry faggots who come here and push their shit agenda
>>
>>576978216
Let generals on the same team swap one player between squads each match day.
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>>576978140
He obviously meant new PES as in change in version, dumbass. Besides it hasn't been used in 7 years and most of the people who were managers at the time are no longer around or don't manage anymore.
>>
>>576978216
You should accept that BoB is gonna be a raped bitch and block PES18 efforts
>>
>>576978431
Council isn't doing shit.
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>>576978431
im not doing shit
>>
WEEDMAN IS PES18 FIXED
>>
>>576978721
stop erping with managers and rubbing your belly
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>>576978624
>>576978721
kekypow!
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>>576978770
Sou is the fixed version of 18?
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>>576978721
When are you addressing him?
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>>576978775
what do you want me to do, come up with a dogshit ruleset?
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>>576978216
Consider the things I mentioned here >>576978414
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>>576978216
Do you believe the blowout issue is fixable with ruleset adjustments? Is it even really an issue, or do you think it's just managers not adapting? I want to hear your opinions on it before I make suggestions.
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>>576978216
literally just winter 20 or test cup rules
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>>576978721
honest question
favourite match so far in this invitational?
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>>576978864
They sure do, so they can complain then. They (4ccg) love and want to complain. Simple as.
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>>576978216
Buff defenders but only a little bit again to see the difference
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>>576978864
Ban all managers!!
Ban all tripfags! who use it for attention-seeking and not Q&A-related things
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>>576978864
use PES19 forehead
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>each time /gfg/ plays against an idolslop team in invitational on a shitty PES before the VGL PES gets chosen, the match has 100% efficiency for most of it
Noticing?
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>>576978883
the other yellow name is the TO so youre shouting in the wind
the ruleset is his, and i think he can figure it out, if not i'll take blowoutpes over anything else on the table.
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>>576979130
Match was so good it fooled everyone into using 21
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>>576978982
probably /4ccg/ /trick/ or /gfg/ /gbpen/. today was probably the better match day of the 3 in all honesty.

>>576979048
im not a fucking 4CHAN JANNY sorry

>>576979091
lets do it
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>>576979130
you know what maybe we should just ban /gfg/ if they're the only reason we keep getting stuck on dogshit PES versions
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>>576978216
>>576978864
thoughts on /dimes/?
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>>576979212
Watch it happen again with 18!
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>>576978890
if you recall there was a guy mass-testing the ruleset with mirror 442s and blowouts werent a problem, so i'm 95% certain that this is just bad management or bad exports which is perfectly logical since its a new pes and new ruleset.
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>>576979191
Right, forgot we have two yellow names now.
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>>576979324
The world would be a better place if ratflesia, yonk and soulmancer would get executed
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>>576979324
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>>576979324
Always happy to see someone BEE
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>>576979440
raped
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>>576979396
>one guy testing overrules live game situations
oh my god this is just PES15 all over again
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>>576978864
actually yes, can you tell the indog to fuck off with his trash UI changes, i don't want to see it even on an invitational, let him know he can contact maybe the fucking /trash/ league or the VTL but not here, not ever
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>>576979228
gfg zzz from day 1 was also nice.
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>>576979437
as in, the pes ruleset is gio's but the format is idiot's
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>>576979465
he's a furry? Grim.
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>>576979557
yeah it was I kinda forgot bc I don't like the pk stuff but it was fun. /civ4xg/ /gbpen/ too actually.

>>576979545
that guy has done nothing for VGL in months, meds
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>>576979440
hey man this might be true but i never even posted anthro
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>>576979535
>>576979212
>we can ignore bad games because /gfg/ had a good one
>we can ignore managed games because random tests were good
PES18 is the perfect combination of PES15 and PES21 that all of /4ccg/ was asking for.
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>encouraging /trash/ furshit niggerism on /4ccg/
You had one fucknig job KWABmo
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>>576979808
FREE MY NIGGA
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>>576979191
people will actually want blowoutslop instead of 17/19 lmao
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>>576979804
>pes 18 combines all the good parts of 15 and 21
all i needed to hear, ship it.
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>>576978386
If he wants to
>>576978416
Damn, I didn't know Kangaroos can be chill
>>576978431
oh ok
>>576978467
Next co-op maybe
>>576978592
Maybe
>>576978890
In my honest opinion I feel like a lot of teams just eat shit because their one trick pony stopped working
Some of the tactical choices are just extremely weird like
>have issues with defence
>change nothing related to what fucks you over
some team just conceded only to change the attacking sliders because somehow that is gonna fix the gaping hole that lets the balls go in
maybe the lofted ball spam is a problem since that was what people got raped by back in summer 19, i'll see, prob do this >>576979013 with a buff to explosive power to make the defenders be faster on chasing strikers

tl;dr managers that didn't touch a PES in 7 years might have skill issue
>>576979324
people like you spamming this shit is the reason why almost no one likes /trash/
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>>576979396
What causes the blowouts is something to consider
>sheer coincidence
After this tournament it should be easy to see if that's the case
>export matchup
Everyone will gravitate towards the most dominant thing for fear of being raped without any chance to respond
>mementum
A worse version of luck where everyone is strapped in the cuckchair and forced to witness whatever outcome PES has preordained
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>>576979904
yeah, i do, mostly beacause i know that vglco wont even attempt to make a good ruleset for 17/19, so it will just be the exact same tourney as we had a while ago
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>>576979440
trvke, they should have been decapitated along kekybellum and k'wab
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>>576979997
>export matchup
Summer 22 should tell us that every team running the same thing will only produce more blowouts, somehow. So as everyone gravitates towards /cm/s and /cm/-lites the blowouts will probably increase as PES looks at the mirror exports, can't decide what to do, and picks one to actually work while the other can't do anything.
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>>576979808
it's funny thooooooooooo

>>576980108
>a good ruleset for 17/19
we have working rulesets why change it at all?
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>>576979949
Didn't address the unnecessary UI changes
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>>576980108
>I'd rather watch 50 blowouts than good PESes because I've watched good PESes before
I can't believe what I'm reading
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All rise for the new /4ccg/ anthem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFkguq89YU
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>>576980108
I can't believe I share a general with these retarded ass niggas
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>>576979808
kekypow!
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>>576980212
KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU
NOT FUNNY NOT FUNNY NOT FUNNY NOT FUNNY NOT FUNNY NOT FUNNY NOT FUNNY NOT FUNNY NOT FUNNY NOT FUNNY NOT FUNNY NOT FUNNY
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>>576980254
It was a sleep deprived decision man and it's just an invitational to test shit
For a proper cup I'd obviously ran proper tests to see but since I'm doing all of this on my own and don't have enough time especially since I'm also developing the stadium compiler at the same time
It didn't help I got my new GPU that day as well
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>>576980370
>good PESes
geg
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>>576976850
I feel like people don't look at it objectively, but instead go by "which people hate it the most so I can be in favor of it instead?". Personally I don't like it due to the following reasons:

>strikers slow down way too much when they get in possession and are easily caught by non medal defenders or midfielders
>low lofted pass is fucking overpowered and even if you can defend it for a while a team will just do it 20 times and eventually break through
>the game provides ridiculous momentum from the very start of the match, it's easy to tell when you are just getting raped. /4ccg/ swapped presets and tactics like 20 times and was still taking it up the ass by /akg/
>dribbling really sucks unless it's players cutting inside from the wing. In that case defenders in the box get super confused and have no idea what to do i.e Junya's goal against /gbpen/
>passing in general is not the best. Some passes get cut off with no pressure or players pass to players that are clearly marked.
>it somehow feels very prone to spaghetti and unnecessary errors because the AI shits itself harder than other PES versions

It does have its good parts obviously like strikers being able to score top shelf bangers but apart from that I don't see too much that would make me say "you know what I really really want this over 17/19".
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>>576979997
>most dominant thing
doesnt exist based on this weekend of games.
>mementum
clearly not the case, because its one sided.

especially on cipher's day i noticed that goals all start piling on in the second half, i think this is the stamina nerf coming into play, but i think it's a good thing.
it also creates the stupid spaghetti moments which are great (for the viewers)
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>>576980417
the new /gif/ anthem*
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>>576980517
If there are 6 usable versions and 2 are clearly better than the other 4, I am allowed to call those 2 good
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>>576980475
I'm sorry, I should had done better
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>>576979904
I do believe blowouts happen mostly because 18 amplifies the gap between shitty and good exports. Like sure, probably every team got raped at least once, but take a look at team standings. Do any of the teams look like they got their spot simply by sheer pes luck, or do they actually represent the export/managing quality?
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>>576980212
>it's funny thooooooooooo
Maybe on planet retard. Go back to /ag/
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>>576980475
>>576980629
Thanks for the naked dogeza, but don't ever do shit like that again.
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>>576980567
>strikers slow down way too much when they get in possession and are easily caught by non medal defenders or midfielders
Do they now? Dunno, maybe it was just THAT noticeable on 21, but I don't really see it on 18. Sure it happens but not very often.
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>>576980775
it's more noticeable around the midline or really on any attack that isn't a lofted pass
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>>576980567
adding to the AI bullshit is general decision making. Sometimes teams pull a god seed and strikers suddenly remember that they can actually shoot pretty well and will take more shots. Other times strikers just completely refuse to shoot, shitting their pants in the opposing box because they just can't find a lane and will pass around until they lose the ball
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>>576980920
>midline
Oh I guess I kinda get what you're talking about now. Didn't really notice it in the moment since midline clusterfucks look more natural than "rumao I'm all alone with the ball and I'm going to TRIP"
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>>576971705
Underrated.
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>>576979949
I don't know about their one-trick pony, it stopped working. You have goals where if the strikers cut inside, the defense collectively stun-locks itself.
Plus, considering the condition form and the nerf in place, if you get blue or purple CBs, you just have to accept it and suck it up. CBs probably deserve a higher form rating to prevent this if you want to keep the nerf in place.
Loads of teams made change after change, but sometimes it feels like no matter what you adjust, there is nothing you can do. It leaves you feeling powerless, like you just have to accept getting screwed over.
Sometimes passing makes no sense either. Passes get intercepted so easily, and there is barely anything you can do about it.
And as for mentalities, something needs to be said about them. +1 looks completely useless so far, while +2 is still the "suicide / I have nothing left to lose" button. It is good to see -1 working well and leaving much less space for the opposing team, but I wonder what happens if both teams decide to run -1 simultaneously.
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>>576980567
>strikers slow down way too much when they get in possession and are easily caught by non medal defenders or midfielders
selection bias
>low lofted pass is fucking overpowered and even if you can defend it for a while a team will just do it 20 times and eventually break through
then maybe pull your dline back try all out and conservative?
if you put gegen fma10 and then you get thruballed(lofted or not) you have 0 right to complain
>the game provides ridiculous momentum from the very start of the match, it's easy to tell when you are just getting raped. /4ccg/ swapped presets and tactics like 20 times and was still taking it up the ass by /akg/
list the changes 4ccg made. I'll wait.
>dribbling really sucks unless it's players cutting inside from the wing. In that case defenders in the box get super confused and have no idea what to do i.e Junya's goal against /gbpen/
selection bias
>passing in general is not the best. Some passes get cut off with no pressure or players pass to players that are clearly marked.
which is normal. if all passes were laser accurate, we would have like 8-8 barnburners
>it somehow feels very prone to spaghetti and unnecessary errors because the AI shits itself harder than other PES versions
sure, but i think that's funny
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https://mega.nz/file/0pl33QTS#YouHOrRY5G2vA5NqS0uk7LvU-dz9K9nHxd90Ae1wE0w
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>>576976343
>Is there a thread for talking about sports games that isn't the cup only?
You'd have better luck on /sp/ probably
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>>576981554
aoba crypto miner
do not click
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>>576979949
>>576981430
Pretty sure I have seen teams eat shit with both high dline or low. And AMA or FMA, probably the worst change so far is going +1 or +2 but that might be the defense nerfs at work like in 21 (last VGL)
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>>576981683
21 +1 at least can hit hard because it's so center focused. 18 +1 just feels like it does nothing.
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which export is the lofted throughball merchant?
if i beat it 8 out of 10 times will you niggers shut the fuck up
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>>576981430
/hsrg/ and /xivg/ are two examples of what I feel are one trick ponies because if you check their cars they just spam long ball expert and if LBE decides to eat shit, what can you do? you're gonna long ball even on short passing
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>>576981961
That's very true, feels like one of the worst changes you could make unless already losing and desperate for a goal.
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>>576982074
LBE doesn't work the way that you think you do, considering also that most /xivg/ goals so far haven't even been result of long ball. Same for /hsrg/ even in the last match.
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>>576982049
>if I win some tests will you guys stop noticing the meta
you can smash some action figures together and it'd have the same effect on discussion
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>>576982248
when I tried it, most players that had it just became shitters at random
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>>576980775
it's a thing that happened a lot on 19 too.
the striker just super slows down and dribbles at a snail's pace around the midfield line and almost always gets it easily stolen away by a midfielder running up from behind.
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>be me losingmanager
>/otherteam/ scored with <attack type>
>i will not shut up about <attack type> being overpowered shit because i'm a raped little cocksucker
>this pes sucks because i lost
>wow! i made proactive changes (i changed from maintain to flex) and yet ive lost? this is bullshit nothing you do makes a difference
>we need to go back to <pes i copied a cup winning export on>
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>>576981683
I don't think I've seen anyone try wide containment
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>>576981554
aoba crypto miner
do click
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>>576982673
many such cases!
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>>576982673
18 is just gonna be 50% /cm/ so what's the point?
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>>576982673
BoB today
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>>576982673
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>>576982759
the only 2 managers that made good changes were /akg/ and /gbpen/.
sure /akg/ couldnt score a second but they nuked civ4's attack.
and /gbpen/ managed to tie it back up.
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>>576982956
you think maybe that's because most managers have given up after testing and four live matches and accepted that most of 18 is decided on the first kickoff?
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>>576982956
tbdesu /gbpen/ was also the case of PES deciding /gfg/'s GK would be unable to save anything. But yeah their changes were good.
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>>576982938
/akg/ got fucked by a corner and a kickoff, both don't have slider changes to account for it unless you say -2 until we get possession is a sensible option
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>>576983094
clearly thats not reality though?
if youre gonna pull down your pants instead of running, youre gonna get raped
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>>576983094
People that easily give up like the uber eats era managers are not a good indicator of anything unfortunately. I would say two of the teams doing well are consistent (one being the current champ too), so there is something maangers can do.
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>>576982956
/trick/ did good, if pes wasn't completely against them there would've been a chance for a draw.
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>>576983249
but they're not pulling down their pants. they've experienced a cup's worth of games already and for most of them when they try to run PES drives a truck into them. why bother trying changes that definitely would've worked honest trust me when it's clear that the game just has a lot of blowouts?
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>>576983376
maybe if trick didnt submit the worst deadline export known to man, they would have done way better atp
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>>576983432
If this is a real thing they should gtfo and let someone else replace them for week 2. What good is to have quitters around
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>>576983432
this is where the managers need to figure out that running in the open road is not a good idea
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There's one moment that happened today that I've seen a lot testing on 18. CBs tend to spread apart in possession which means you get situations like this where a takeaway or interception by an opposing striker or forward like what happened at 2 means there's a huge gap right in front of the box that nearly guarantees a one on one.
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>>576983479
If that was the worst deadline export known to man, how come /4ccg/ lost to it? Checkmate, atheists!
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>>576983567
maybe a pes version should have more thought put into it if it's making people quit trying after one weekend
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i actually like this format of 8 games in 6 days.
it filters out the test monkeys who crumble like a house of cards when they cant test for 5 days straight for their match.
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>>576983717
what SR was xivg on?
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>>576983753
/4ccg/ isn't good either.
>>576983806
Because some mental midget wants to quit during an INVITATIONAL? No, I would understand if this was already VGL or confirmed for VGL, but when you sign up for a tournament like this or Ladie's night early this year etc you know you are there to run some streamed tests basically.
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>>576983753
keeper diff
mazing run diff
lack of low lofted pass card diff
rabi diff
every other model bar the doll diff
rabi diff
rabi diff
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>>576984019
PSCM5 FMA47
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Why do so many of neo uber eats managers such weak minded?
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>>576984149
probably needs fluid to prevent this
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>>576984197
I are of not to be knowing either
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>>576984197
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>>576984529
one of the commissioners looks exactly like this
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>>576984197
Because they still believe they can win. /trick/ aims high and gets hurt when they lose. Do you think /hanny/man comes in thinking he can win a tournament? He turns up cup after cup knowing that his team has already lost. He is already defeated before kickoff.
I'd take a winner over a loser anyday.
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>>576984529
>>576984438
baited for this exact response
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>>576984660
the trick manager posts about how he will lose approximately 20 times before each match though
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>>576982759
Loads of teams ran wide defense and didn't do a whole bunch.

>>576982956
I don't agree that they were the only two teams that made changes. /xivg/ also made adjustments in their games to try to turn things around, and they succeeded.
/zzz/ is another team that made better and more effective changes as the tournament went on, showing that -1 could be very viable.
/civ4xg/ is another team that tried their best with tactical changes; the team started to look better, but they still got screwed over by PES.
Then you have /hsrg/, who, if anything, started playing better the moment they went full pastebin and made zero changes. So really, you can't attribute everything to livemanaging. It's still PES, and sometimes, no matter what you try to do, you can still get screwed over.

Unironically, the only clear case of bad management was /4ccg/, where the manager dug themselves into a hole by overmanaging the match against /akg/.

>>576984019
Something like this is not related to SR, why would both CB be that much on the side?
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>>576984660
The winner in this example crumbles at the first hardship.
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>>576984596
I doubt it's only one...
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>BLU got raped
>suddenly a sea of posts criticizing the ruleset which was "fine" before
noticing
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>>576984959
TRVKE
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>>576984859
/trick/ managers posts it but he doesn't believe it.
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>>576984861
its not about fixing the position but about fixing the failed pass
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Seeing that BoB is super raped about 18 (and 19) makes all of this pointless anyway. We will somehow stay on 21 with unbanned 343
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>>576984959
BoB and Denko WILL NOT address this oh nonononono
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I think most of the newer managers are fine and are doing a good job with their teams
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>>576985298
yeahhhha because i dont really care what some blueberries think
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>>576985351
I hate trannymancer so I hope we keep losing until another manager wants to BEE
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>>576985351
i agree, id go as far as some of the older managers seem bitter and entitled
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>>576984660
cucksia...
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>>576985528
Says while newfags are the ones that get raped easily and want to quit during an invitational
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>>576985528
Thats only really one half of /akg/.
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>>576985563
Bee the change nigga
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>>576985563
I ate them
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>>576983806
>>576984197
>>576984660
>>576985658
no one is even quitting after one weekend.
the post in /trick/ was a falseflag.
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>>576985658
which manager?
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>>576985694
why only one half?
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Do it /trick/nigger, say the phrase!
>"f-fals... *shits himself while crying* u-uuuuuhhhhh... *whimpers* fuh-falsef-flag! *squeaks*"
Yay!
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>>576986049
KEK
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>>576985351
As a blu manager, I think the ruleset is fine. The only thing I would change is giving CBs higher form rating. Considering how nerfed defender stats are, it just sucks if you get unlucky condition rolls on your backline.

Plus, I don't get why stamina was nerfed further compared to the ruleset that 4cc used. Gegenpress doesn't seem as strong as people make it out to be, I really don't get that stamina nerf.
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>>576986049
but there's literal proof
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>>576986049
I think the /zzz/bro was right, some of you are obsessed to the point of mental illness.
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>muh pes version bad
why dont we just rent out a bunch of indians and have them play manager tactics irl
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AIEEEEEEEE PLS TOKI SAMA GIVE ME SLIDERS
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>>576986237
lmao the fuck
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>>576985563
>>576985798
>>576986237
Mental illness
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>>576986129
blu managers wouldnt have these level headed takes, falseflag
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>>576986049
unironical kekypow
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>>576986297
/hanny/ guys are chill people, Reso is chill, Myuer is chill, GuyF is chill. Only BoB and Cog I don't trust
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I think /trick/ manager loves the team and does his best and was understandably unhappy when they lost.
I also think /hanny/ manager has done his best for a long time and its a credit to him that they get good fan turnout every VGL.
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Stop mentioning my zoer wife
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>>576984959
this is true if you ignore the complaints yesterday during the day of blowouts
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Fill in the blank: ________ might not have been the best manager, but he was the best person to be a manager.
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>>576986501
BoB at least has meltdowns with his name attached to his posts.
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>>576986654
Torres McIlroy
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>>576986501
you forgot to add the other /u/ testers and managers in blue, and also keksia
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>>576986297
Here's your proof
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>>576986798
>torres
>not the best manager
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>>576986895
so either you're a raped 'cow, BoB or any of the /hanny/fags
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>>576986501
I've never had any issues with BoB or Cog
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No one's ever had issues with anyone really in terms of managers hating each other or something, because everyone's pretty much cordial with each other regardless of what the thread wants you to believe.

Well, except for the guy who just got banned because he had an issue with everyone and had to fight everyone.
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>>576987380
beebs really said that in a vtl final
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>>576987380
what in the actual fuck
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>>576987445
he got banned twice and solely because he fought with a nonmanager though (shakes, denko)
i unironically kinda miss bellum
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>>576987445
Everyone is generally decent and people understandably get frustrated when they lose.
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>>576987380
Computers were a mistake.
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>>576987595
I feel like most managers would have been fine if he had been banned before but in terms of how he interacted with everyone in public he had hugely improved.
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UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH ANGELA
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH MALKUTH
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH HOD
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH THIPERETH :sob:
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH GEBURA
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH MYO
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH BINAH
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH CARMEN
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH SCORCHED GIRL
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH QUEEN OF HATRED
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH LADY FACING THE WALL
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH LITTLE RED RIDING HOODED MERCENARY
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH KING OF GREED
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH LAETITIA (thanks ebora)
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH KNIGHT OF DESPAIR
UNPROTECTED INTERCOURSE WITH MELTING LOVE
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>>576987595
>>576987445
if they banned bellum they should've banned l'av too, nomo is so fucking retarded
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nomo is so fucking cute
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>>576987845
/lcg/bro...
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>>576987845
literally who are any of these
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BoB would have been banned long ago if he wasn't part of the council
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>>576987845
sex with Tiphereth indeed
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>>576987845
>ANGELA
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>>576987890
I still don't understand why people wanted l'av banned when it was basically just an example of >>576987627. Doesn't make him not a huge sperg for doing it in the way he did it but didn't seem egregious enough to warrant punishment.

As compared to the 'bellum personally DMing the tournament organizer and basically hoping he chokes to death and dies IRL or whatever the hell all that was.
That's kind of just insane behavior and I don't know what they were expecting.
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bellum just really wanted to get his string added
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sex with angelica
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>>576988131
>a streamer would've been banned for not liking losing
if that happened then the only streamers left would be Sou and Cipher
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>>576988309
Denko said that the ban was because 'bellum was a "bad actor" and not because he messaged insane shit to him. L'av is just as much of a "bad actor" lately.
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>>576988635
>Denko said that the ban was because 'bellum was a "bad actor" and not because he messaged insane shit to him.
yep yep makes sense don't question it yep yep
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Bellum's ban was basically the same as Gio's from the 4cc and shockingly there have been 0 similar bans since
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>>576988754
Gio's banned from 4cc?
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>>576988754
Gio's banned from the cup???
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>>576988791
>>576988832
Sorry I meant VTL
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>>576988880
Gio's banned from the VTL?????????
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>>576988968
Yeah due to patch stuff
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>>576989085
Holy raped
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>>576988635
>Had beef with Baldyose, Shakes, Gio and Toki
'bellum was basically against half of /aesco/, he only needed to shit on Foreground and Tomato to make a bingo.
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where THE FUCK is my sluggies?
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>>576989643
/ourguy/
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>>576989643
He had a dumb argument with Tomato before. I still miss bellum tho, wish he wasn't a mega retard with no filter.
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>>576989643
pretty sure he did go against tomato too
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Where the FUCK is worms?
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>>576989851
I ate them
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>>576989851
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP
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>VOD is up ALREADY
Holy shit
>>576989085
Lmao
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The vods guy has a white PC case.
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The weedman has a white PC case
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The crimson has a white pc case
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Weedman still hasn't answered my question =[
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>/xivg/
needs 7 points in 4 games to reach the 16 point quota
>/gbpen/
needs 8 points in 3 games to reach the 16 point quota
>/akg/
failed the 16 point quota
>/hanny/
needs 5 points in 5 games to reach the 8 point quota
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>>576991167
/akg/ wasn't given a quota
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>>576991167
>5 points in 5 games
I don't know if this /hanny/ can achieve that
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/akg/ failed the not getting mad at pes quota
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>>576991167
/akg/ has no quota.
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>>576991338
They beat /zzz/ and got blown out by a certified good team in /hsrg/.
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The fatposter has a white PC case
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The things I've learned this thread
>noticing things about the matches in a test invitational meant to showcase how a given PES version performs is not allowed because these teams are just bad and the real teams with real exports will fix it
>no, the fact that we had this exact same discussion with PES 21 and PES 15 back to back is not a cause for concern because this time it will be different
>and besides we need to switch to bad PES versions because we simply can't stay on the good ones, it's just not possible
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>>576993072
we need to get the cup on PES [version you hate] out of the way okay
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>>576993072
inferior bocchi rape
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https://vocaroo.com/1ixnNzcgkqG0
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>>576993409
Kino
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>>576993375
That's the only good bocchi
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>>576991027
that dog is dead
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>>576993671
kekypow dude
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>>576993837
Now say it while I rape you.
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>>576993916
kekypow dude
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>>576993072
>the good ones
Doesn't exist
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>>576978770
>/4ccg/ lost again
ITS SHIT
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>>576994586
Can you rape the manager already?
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>>576994792
You think he can actually rape anyone? How long has he been screaming about his upcoming rape without actually raping?
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>>576994586
Look who it is, mr. FAT FUCK
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>>576993072
We love getting it out of the way in this thread.
If you don't, then you should get out of the way.
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Next OP please
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>>576995057
>please make the /4ccg/ OP our group chat's jokes
why would we do that
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>>576995057
wow that's really unfunny it's actually impressive
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[Sad News] a Marginal Dungeon Adventurer (27) Imp**gnates His High School Student Disciples ~ As a Result of Accidentally Helping the JK Streamers,
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>>576995229
You just don't get it lol
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>>576995057
it even has reddit and blacked shit, so fucking worthless
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>>576995324
wut
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>>576995358
What?
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>>576995790
do I even need to say it?
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We are reading propaganda
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>>576995862
Huh?
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>>576995358
NTA but you are the worst poster in this general
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>>576995358
And /bag/shit too
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>>576995985
Obsessed
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>>576995218
>>576995229
>>576995358
it makes sense that modern /4ccg/ hates literally everything now
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>>576994586
can you stop making the VGL beta test PES versions for the superior alpha 4cc?
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>>576995057
Take your goofy ahh back to /ag/
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>>576996052
Nigga /4ccg/ has hated everything since inception.
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>>576993072
raped
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>>576996147
You have to be 18 to post here.
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>>576996052
it's just not that funny that's all
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>>576995358
NTA but you are the best poster in this general
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You have to be PES18 to post here.
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>>576994586
Ok but for real though
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I'm PES12 and what is this
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>>576996147
trying too hard
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>>576996667
Meant for >>576995057
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>>576996052
>ask why a general should use a group chat's in-jokes as an OP
>this means I hate it
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>>576996857
Yes
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>>576996857
Yes, problem?
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>>576996857
I don't think any of those are in jokes
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I won :)
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>>576995057
/ag/ddit
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Holy mass reply batman
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>>576997338
All me btw
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>>576997417
I believe it
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ass reply
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>>576997417
I don't say this
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Any cutie who needs a comanager?
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>>576997918
Looking at their performance I think /4ccg/ could use one.
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[HOT VGLCO LEAKS] KEKYPOW
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>>576998092
Next OP please
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>>576998218
why should the OP be some random from your discord
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>>576998092
>
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>>576998092
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>>576998092
kekypow
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>>576998092
why are we kekypowing some niggas mass reporting a post
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>>576998092
This place is so fucking retarded sometimes.
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>>576998092
ciphiepow
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>>576998568
>>576998914
the kekypow part is him being dumb enough to say that out loud
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>>576998092
What a clown
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>>576998568
Wouldn't be surprised that is something bots can find on their own. It's a fucking stupid thing to type.
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>>576998914
My nigger in christ this is Planet Retard, if you ain't retarded then you stupid.
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>>576998092
>/end/ manager can't be verified because garfield asked for CP
Finally an actual underdog
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kekypow
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>>576998914
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>>576999650
BASED
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>>576999650
Redditpow
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>>576998092
>one or more pieces of content you posted was removed
Huh
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Does this mean BoB is back to being interim Commissioner? Does he have enough time to save the co-op cup?
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>>577000553
no I can post again in like 2 days
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>>577000553
>he
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>>577000647
yeah but he can cancel co-op cup before you're back
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>>577000286
they just deleted that one post afaik.
>>577000794
why whats wrong with it
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>>577000857
Worms when
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>>577001534
*zips cock*
I raped those worms
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>>576995057
add this >>576998092 too
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Why are VGL commentators all pedophiles?
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>>577002261
I don't think Reso, Bird, BoB, Streak, Mantis, or Limbab are
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>>577002261
it's only 2
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>>577002535
Denko, Cipher, QD, RHS
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>>577002565
>Denko
Performative as fuck if you think reposting a shitty meme is serious
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>>577002723
I don't know, asking for cp doesn't seem like a meme
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>>577002861
It's literally right here >>576999650 there's a whole series of these images
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>>577002861
It's a line from an irony poisoned MCU meme
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>>577002958
>>577003093
sure but the post where he asked for it didn't have any meme included
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>>577003238
It followed up SEAdogs post saying in all caps "why is the camera work so good" which in the original meme is a line but replace "camera work" with "writing" and she never followed up to the post with anything. You have to be a tumblrina if you thought that post was genuine.
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>>577003675
You have to be very simple to think that the shitpost was serious.
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>>577003771
/4ccg/ has proven itself to be quite retarded lately.
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“if you have a problem with me, text me, and if you don’t have my number, you don’t know me well enough to have a problem with me”
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Black and Brown Voters don't want Communism or Socialism.
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wtf I just joked about mass-reporting his 'cord posts
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What does portugal have to do with /4ccg/?
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https://ctc.westpoint.edu/the-historical-evolution-of-the-islamic-states-anti-china-propaganda/



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