Thread for the discussion of Honkai Impact 3rdREAD THIS BEFORE ASKING ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S MOST LIKELY HEREhttps://rentry.org/vffr2https://rentry.org/hi3newbieguidehttps://rentry.org/hi3newbieresourceshttps://rentry.org/hi3resourceshttps://rentry.org/ElfSkillUpgrades>Story guide for newcomershttps://hoyostans.be/explore/honkai-impact-3rd/consumers-guide-hi3>Shattered Swords VNhttps://youtube.com/channel/UCyeHz1CGgJkXJd-c7lw_RiQ>Latest CN supply, event, abyss, and MA cycles:https://marisaimpact.com/calendar89>v8.9 "Lives Flourish Where Feathers Fall" Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH0RrfyAbP0>Seele's New S-rank Battlesuit "Wings of Panacea" Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN8Gl86kPtU>Wings of Panacea Tutorial Videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR2mVL1MPQQPrevious: >>576142889
xX_Xier_Xx!
"Hoyo told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears of Elysia flopping. It was their final, most essential command."- George Orwell, 1984.
Shiteele!
Do not let her see
>>577024349Cutest best girl!
Seele!
>>577009797Yeah, that chapter was my favourite one.
Kelvin or Caelsus?
Genshittification 3rd
Reminder that Milktoasts plan failed because he underestimated how much of a hater this nigga was.
>>577024848!eleeS
>>577024349
I love QUA.
Sushi abused her good looks and position of power to seduce this fangirling bear and take her away from Alvitr.
>>577036865
choco dragon never
Well well well
>IMG + PSY Fire WoDRip in piss lamp
Why is Bronya not sharing her boyfriend with Seele?
I ranked my Azure Empyrea to SSS today!
>>577039901N
https://x.com/housetalalla/status/2086809895702319609What is Tuna doing in COD?
Entropy is going to get a gacha outfit that will fix her design like HoRb.
>>577044536Nice work Anoneele!!
>>577038051The OG trio, Kiana, Mei and Vita
The best trio
…at flopping
... on my dick
さようなら、すべての崩壊
>>577044536>Cosmic Duality>Lv.60You are a poser.
I'm going to shoot all of you stoopid trannies in the upcoming cod collab~It's going to be an honor for you all to die at the hands of a REAL woman~
I never doubted Elysia is made out of Seeles
>>577057084>Part SeeleAlways.
>>577057084>kianer chaser That's me>love kianaAlways >Rita lostNo.....>kafiraoji courtyard shilling Anon was right all along.....
>>577055425Teehee~
>>577059672what is this autism
>>577059907A) This way I can blame any score differences on levels instead of skill issue~B) I'm broke on Torus~C) First maxed PRI-ARM is a serious commitment, I'm not ready~
>>577059672I will only accept this if your valks and elfs are all level 79
>>577061995There was a guy in EU Myriad who did that. I wonder how he's doing.
Kianya chan and Meiow senpai
>>577067006Cute!
Let see:Hi3 has pink and purpleGI has pink and purple ZZZ has pink and purpleMei definitely has a type
>>577069397No because Mei is with Kiana in Hi3, while in zzz the ely copy is sucking wise's dick and Genshin Ei fucked own purple sister.
>in a world full of pink girls, ei smashed her own sisHoly based
>>577070878Fry her!Grill her!Bake her!
>>577070220>>577070667>IncestNo very surprising since early GGZ had KiaMei mother/daughter, older/younger sister incest as well as Father/Daughter incest for Ryoma and Mei. They only toned these things down once they started getting popular. Mei is going back to her incestuous roots.
The Elysiafag never played HI3 so he ofcourse he doesn't know what he's talking about.
>>577021358It was foreshadowed all along.
>>577021358Shitlysia flopped so much they went back to the original trio for the Collab lel
Look at these men, of course they wouldn't put Elysia in a transexual collab.
They're supposed to be skins for female characters btw
>>577074562And elysia is a troon so ofcourse they wouldn't feature that ting
>>577073685Same with p2 characters. And the p1 finale battlesuits. Nothing will come close to HI3 at its height again.
Kyuushou is currently making bootlegs of Bronya’s shitty games
Bronya is currently making shitty bootlegs of Kyuushou’s awesome games
No one, including COD, cares about your El*sia you mentally ill freak
Opinions on Seele?
>>577076183Everyone cares about your Seele you adorable cutie
>>577076183No one, including COD, cares about your Se*le you mentally ill freak
>>577077134Shut the fuck upeele!
>>577076183very seeleful!
The sight of Seele makes me sick. Seele is a useless crybaby and she's always asking Bronya for help.
Hi3 at its height
No one likes your ER and EE you mentally ill freakBRAAAPPPP
That's why part 2 failed, nobody likes obese characters
Seele = shit
Seele = awesome
Seele rocks
Genshit tourists and the mentally retarded should not be considered people.
>>577078267>when censorship was at its height
>>577078267ER started off ok
Speaking of pink and purple
>>577078267>censoring at its height
People who hate ER, how would you fix that part of the story?
>>577087393remove the second half completely, no theme park open world shit
>>577070220Has Sakura not suffered enough? Can't you let her have a girlfriend even in another universe?
>>577087393Less flame chasers to waste time on. No retcons regarding Herrschers and WoH. Zero elysia shilling. And most importantly, actually develop Mei’s character so she can have a proper redemption arc instead of turning her into an elysia fangirl.
>>577079103Only thing obese about Maria is her PHAT fucking ass.
>>577094409proof???
>>577087393Hate isn't quite the word I'd use, I'm more mixed on it, but you'd need a total overhaul to patch up it's issues>Trim down the cast, I don't care about the twelve disciples reference, 13 is too damn many and just bloats the writing>Cut the retcons, there was no need for them, the story doesn't even need them to work>Don't turn Mei into a cardboard cutout for gods sake>Spread the screentime out more evenly, don't just have the pink in the spotlight 90% of the time>If you are going to focus on Elysia, at least give her some actual depth. Don't just set up/hint stuff and drop them>Cut the open world crap, it was a mistake in Kolosten and it was a mistake here>I don't really know what to do about the HoC, I guess just leave her in? I wouldn't have her completely decimate the supposed 'super-powerful' herrscher killers just to get one-shot by Ely though, that's dumb. Make her more scheming or something>Get rid of the fucking typewriter
>>577094409>MariaWhy is she mexican?
>>577097273I wonder if there will ever be criticism from people who actually played it>Spread the screentime out more evenly, don't just have the pink in the spotlight 90% of the timeShe was gone at the end of chapter 29, came back at the end of chapter 31 but retards who never played it says she "took all the screentime"
>>577098864Why are you?
>>577094454Here's the proof.>>577098864She's European.
>>577100708That PHAT fucking ass needs vigorous spankings, groping and licking. Not necessarily in that order.
>one person says that the arc was focused on elysia>say she was gone for most of chapter 29-31 while leaving out that it’s only half the arc and the overall plot is still about how important and special elysia is>claim that this means that everyone who criticizes ER hasn’t actually played itWhy are elysiafags so retarded?
>>577087393One of the biggest problems is Mei herself. She's the PoV character but hardly develops and at best spends much of ER being an asshole then EE being sad for all these people she just met she spent ER being a jerk to. What does she learn to evolve her character? Besides going on another>Elysia si so perfectsegment on Moon,Another issue is the overall format. It feels like an overly structured format>introduce next flame chaser>give them barely an arc or time in spotlight>ok your time is over now GTFO for the next oneI could also go over the many bad retcons but the overall format in a vacuum is already problematic enough.
>>577099235NTA but she was present for much of ER. Then HoC took over but the focus was still always on Elysia. And then she returns. To be a fan of ER, you can't like any other FC over Elysia because she gets abundant attention in ER then for EE she's pic when she's not there. Some FCs like Hua and Kevin barely get anything because they're already established characters and thus the story doesn't feel the need to give them any time.
Elysiatard are the most delusional Honk fanbase. She was an Ok character until they decided to make her Honkai Jesus and push her to everyones throat.
>>577087393There's no fixing the fact that they're sims so them being killed means nothing.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Q17JzNEb8/
>>577099860You are right I am, my favorite character is El Seele Negro btw.
>>577108929What about La "Seele" Negra.
Just because p1 was bad a lot of the time doesn't make p2 good.
Most of part 1 is fantastic.Part 2 still had a lot of moments that are better then the worst arcs in part 1.
P1 was hit and miss. Half and half. But that alone already speaks of its overall quality. P2 isn't much better either, and it lacks the best things that made p1 cool.
>>577111938>best things that made p1 cool.Elysia
The worst parts of part 2 are due to part 1. Part 1 pandering, attempts to do nostalgia or er 2.0, especially cocoon related things. The worst parts of part 1 are so bad they couldn't just be bad on their own but need to ruin part 2 too.
>Part 1 has 5/12 good arcs>Part 1.5 has 0/2 good arcs>Part 2 has 2/3 good arcsSimple
>all the elysias in other games>but senti only went to ggzWe must protect senti from the other games.
>>577112593But Elysia is in p2.
I've come to this thread to mock Kevin for his failure even though he had massive shilling.
I'll never pretend that p1 was a masterpiece, but damn, were some specific arcs close to it. Second Eruption, Arc City, Everlasting Flames, and a few more define what comes to people's minds when they think of HI3.
So, uh... Can I bring this up? This whole time, Dreamseeker is the playable Judah-chan. With the untaken numbers so far, she must be the Current Era representation of the Herrscher of Binding, now known as the Herrscher of Time. Recalling what other Herrschers we got before:>1: Reason/Truth (Bronya, since discarded)>2: Void (since merged with others)>3: Thunder (since merged to Origin)>4: Wind (Wendy, dead)>5: Ice (Ana Schariac, dead)>6: Rebirth (Seele)>7: Flamescion (since merged to Finality)>8: Sentience (YATTA!)>9: Stars (Owl, dead)>10: Dominance (dead)>12: Corruption (purged)>13: Origin (Mei, since discarded)>14: Finality (Kiana)There are always fourteen Herrschers in one cycle, and Dreamseeker happens to take the last slot that the Oath of Judah originated from.
Herrscher of Metal...
>>577121535Finality's power is time so it sounds more like Dreamseeker became Mar's herrscher of finality.
Here's your tragedy of Binding
Herrscher of domestic violence
go fuck yourseelef!
>>577123507That's our beloved Mei senpai!
>>577121535Who cares? Part 2 fags run this thread now. You have a better chance of getting answers in the /zzz/ thread since they have more HI3 players there than the Genshin-infested nu-Honkai fanbase.
Elysiafag who never played HI3 pretends to care about this game while discreetly encouraging to play nuhonkai trash like ZZZ because he's the genshit tranny ximself.
So, was this whole Mars storyline ultimately a glorified side plot like p1.5?
Kiana and Mei watching COD Collab premier where pisslysia gets shot to death.
>>577127273It ended up that way but it's pretty obvious that wasn't their original intention.
When people think of HI3, they go by misconceptions and secondary material they pretend to read. It's like how Persona or Danganronpa fans and playing their games are kryptonite to them. Elysiafags especially avoid playing HI3.
>>577121535I don't know how to break it to you but the powers they have aren't constant. Eve ignoring retconned powers like a Herrscher of Poison and a Herrscher of Earth that wasn't the way Owl/Ana were, the plot reason for why the PE and CE Herrschers have similar powers was the retcon Will of Honkai Prometheus deliberately made them similar before. There's also no guarantee it needs to be the same way because Sa and Vita didn't do the same thing.
>>577127273Depends on how you interpret them all as a new Finality Cocoon leader for each planet. Kiana became P1's. Sa was already there and Vita's partially Sa taking over rather than fully anyone who wasn't there before and at most a replacement instead of making the position up. There's no equivalent yet for P2 or Mars because Senadina's always failing, Leylah refuses to succeed her, and DS is supposed to be the true successful case. On a cosmic level both Kiana and DS are really exceptional new cases with DS having an easier road due to help from a successful case and semi-successful case.
>>577121535The Shadows are supposed to be part 2's honkai just manifesting a different way do they don't do that
Post pictures the Elysiafag has never seen before.
>>577131637Unironically you could post the entire 8.7 event and it will still count as not being seen by him because he doesn't play and KiaMei filters him really hard.
>>577131501My Billionaire Herrscher Domestically Abusive and Possessive Housewife Can't Be This Cute!
Kiana will fuck all the girls.
Kiana has fucked all the girls.
>>577076183Seele!
>>577138349Secretly submissive woman who loves getting stepped on
>>577114014>Part 1.5 has 0/2 good arcsokay hear me outSalt Lake City was unironically fun when I played it. Bita got introduced, Seele became a Herrscher and went on an adventure with the side characters. I genuinely liked this.And the seven Bitas were adorable. The worst thing about this storyline was unironically Fu Hua. Yeah okay Moriarty was also kind of dumb, but all in all, Part 1.5 was pretty decent.
Part 1.5 is good if you skip the bad parts
Salt Snow had some of the best character interactions in the entire game and was probably the last time I've felt any stakes at all.
I like Bita since she's the only one to call out Senadina on her bullshit
I'm Hot on the Trail.
Salt Snow will always be better than part 2 genshittification.
I like Bita because she's an aggressively lesbian baddie
>>577101232Thelema...
lmfao
>>577131118But what will all this goddess stuff amount to? Is the game just giving each planet a goddess protector for the sake of having a goddess protector? Are all 3 parts building to a huge, shared conclusion, or are they episodic and standalone? That's the question. If this doesn't all lead somewhere big and interconnected, they're essentially episodic side plots with no overarching, linking narrative.
Kiana is Type Earth
VAnya birthday
>>577165775Why have Hagnya as a separate entry instead of adding GGZnya?
>>577165775Happy Birthdeele Japanese Bologna!
>>577175619Cock! Cock! Cock!I LOVE COCK!
>>577130586Name the Danganronpa=Hi3 equivalents
Will they rerun the Danganronpa collab for the 2x2 release?
>>577172787cute snek
>>577177979I can't believe Kiana is in the thread
>>577178702I can't believe that Bologna can't count.
>>577182480Which game will she kill next?
>>577182370She's bored on the moon.
>We have PAGlysia at home
>>577184621https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Dream_Seeker
>>577163161>But what will all this goddess stuff amount toKiana leaves with Entropy to fuck more girls
Give big breasted glasses girl
What if Bronya is blind like Welt but doesn't say anything because Seele will beat her up
Now that more collabs have happened, the Evangelion part 2 is inevitable.
>>577184621Kekypow
FUCK you and FUCK your kekypow
Seele will take the kid when they divorce
>>577192810What bdsm bullshit is this
>>577187507Not happening at this rate. She doesn't even have time for Mei anymore.
Page Seele!
Seele sucks. Use Sprinkle instead.
bita
Seele rocks!Play Seele
Pretty grim that the codm devs understand Honkai Impact more than part 2 devs.
>>577184621Average seelefag cosplaying as HoRB
>>577087393>Either cut all traces of the "Elysia is a traitor" garbage completely or actually make her a controversial traitor. But MHY is not capable of doing this justice>Give Mei a real reason to be in the realm and have her take steps towards that goal in each chapter. Make her the center of the arc and make her a driver of the arc, not a camera. She should have been forcing open the mystery herself instead of reacting to everything and dancing to everyone else's tune.>Get rid of the Mobius arc. She's my favorite flamechaser but what a waste of time that was. >Get rid of the Aponia "will you fight fate" arc, what a waste of time>Keep them alive, which is infinitely more interesting than the half-assed stakes of killing them off. We knew they were going to die the moment they were sims so its not even like there was any surprise there>Have an event or two post story in the actual main timeline about the main cast chilling and visiting the sims and show us fun and interesting interactions.
Seele died to Couatl.
Seele returned to her home planet.With Bologna onee-chan.And "Seele".
>>577217917>Either cut all traces of the "Elysia is a traitor" garbage completely or actually make her a controversial traitor.They totally changed direction midway.
Where is Seele?
Cute Kika
self insertion harem mc has won
>>577240196He was here before GGZ
We all love Maria here.This is a fact.
>>577240953yes we do
Why did they put so much feet in part 2? All the feet cgs and all the songque put feet everywhere.
Part 2 needs to be censored. It's too sexualized from beginning to end. The girls have boobs too big, there's too much yuri, and there's not enough male characters.
Elysia could have stopped Part 2
>Elysia didn't kill HI3 at Part 1Good
Ok
>>577021358So this is what HI3 has been reduced to....
>>577248907A Part 0 instead of 2 could have saved the game but I guess they wanted to remake ER for a bigger audience in HSR.
Part Seele is necessary, centered on Seele, Bronya and "Seele"
>>577256676Genshittification does that
>>577260324If what they said is true and Part 3 is going to be more casual episodes about exisiting cast then it's possible we will finally get some SoL stories.Would Seele.
The wages of genshittification is a dead game.
I want more Songlema stories, but they are already dead in the real world.
Dumb sweaty Seeles and their SS Youyuns.
>no Brickle>no Brickriri>I suffer in RLwoe is me."DKeele" can't come soon enough.
>>577269136You can do it, anon!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPsQqVxrxuc
Pouteele!
Bronya is so lucky...
>>577261334That's part 2.5. It's too early to be thinking about part 3 just yet.
bronya covers them up while seele lets then hang
If Post-Part 2 story will be like this then I'm all in. It's fun.
It would be a bad story if the characters were from Part 2
>>577285226Would it? The main reason why Part 2 cast had such a bad reception was that they flooded us with a lot of completely new characters we knew nothing about. Over time some of them really grew on players and characters like Songque, Thelema, Helia, Coralie, Lantern etc. stopped being literally who and side stories like this help with getting to know them better.Senadina is probably the least interesting character though, so it's a shame she is kinda the P2 main heroine.
>>577286143who
>>577286143Entropy and Leyler got very good when they were allowed to be, same with Songlema and Corelia. If there's one who really drew the short end of the stick, it's Lamp. Such a shame, I love her design.
>>577274820Bologna just wants to work... Why is Seele like this?
>>577275629So this is why Seele turned into lightning.
>>577291118Finally some awesome post.
What the fuck is Kika's problem?Why is she suddenly a Kyuushou doppelganger?
Supporteele!
That was a very heartwarming ending. Good event.
Why don't we have a touchable characters mod?
Seele told me to look at the sun and now my eyes hurt.
Bronya is pretending to be hurt when it was already like that
Miss Sporkle is really strong.
>>577290530Tsavorae's moment is the lead up to her death. Even if it gets reset afterward. There's no large bang, no requiem, she's just bleeding out on the ground...
Seele?!
How did it feel to be one of the original Honkaifags from the 2010s and seeing Mihoyo explode into the #1 gacha empire and this overall titan of the gaming industry? Did it feel surreal witnessing this once niche Chinese company you followed suddenly capturing a fanbase of hundreds of millions of normalfags from all over the world?
>>577286143The excuses players made sucked. How did the start any story or sequel staring different cast members? They could've done like FFBE having Lasswel go to MC but people play sequels, spin offs, etc all the time with nearly an entire new cast. How many games don't? Skyrim has almost no characters from Oblivion or prior, most Zeldas are a new cast and versions of each character, nearly every Soulsborne at best has Patches return, even APHO started with Adam and Carole before Mei.
>>577264704Just get an SSS Youyun and it won't be a problem anymore.
It is time to appreciate Leylah's butt.
I very much enjoy Leylah as an antagonist. She's a deeply flawed individual who is a result of one of the heroes completely fucking up, because they themselves had a fucked up childhood/upbringing and couldn't recognise that they were setting up their protege for failure. Leylah is a victim, but also still a baddie who needs to be defeated because... Actually why do we need to deal with Leylah? Couldn't we just leave mars and leave her with her Sim? Like even now the whole Kiana thing is just speculation from the protags side isn't it?
>>577326331Sleepy Kiana is the problem everyone wants to solve. Not even Mei's pussy can wake her up.
>>577319369Because it's still the exact same game, not a separate sequel you download or buy after putting this one down. The difference may seem minor, but it matters. People didn't feel that the stories of the p1 cast were truly over, and then a whole new cast was dropped out of nowhere. P2 being a new, separate game would have been better.
Too true.
Kianners is sleeping.
>>577286143>Senadina is probably the least interesting characterShe is part 2 Kiana so of course she is bad.
>>577319369This. The elyshitter can't even read you mentioned APHO & FFBE being the same game. I bet the twitterfag never played any DLC with a different playable character or cast either. He might want his male self insert to fucka ll the girls because he hates yuri but he never played Torna or Future Redeemed.
>>577337145APHO still focuses mainly on p1 characters, dumbass.
>>577319369It's less about having new characters and more about the time spent on original ones. For example, the Dragon Ball franchise has been about Goku, Vegeta, and co for 40 years. If a new DB series suddenly dropped Goku and everyone for new characters instead, don't expect it to be anywhere near as successful. In HI3's case, 6 years is a long time to get attached to the p1 characters, and it's not the same as a new installment in a movie.
>p1 finale>hypeAll I remember is hate during then. Kolosten and EE set a bad precedence for the pacing, which turned out to be an accurate guess, and Ai-chan's new form wasn't universally well received by any stretch. Genshin tourist increase didn't make the community happier and neither did very recent retcons. Using Ai-chan's 4th wall breaking powers to break Kevin's barrier then her going away because then she'd solo Kevin was very controversial. Soem anons wanted Bronya or Seele to channel the hyperion's power rather than 4th wall breaks. Anons here were saying>Hopefully she fucked off from existence and to never, ever appear again>It's weird to build up to a big climactic battle and then have the fucking majority of it be about a brand new character and some cheap self-insert fanservice shoved in at the last moment when the entire game has been free from it up until then. It's even worse because bologna brings up a way she could break through the shield and be useful for once and then they don't let her do it.Even the bat fight had praise and detractors, some pointing out that Kevin himself has nothing to do with baseball or fighting zombies with baseball bats in this continuity A lot of anons were just here because it's the finale and hoping it's over with because they stuck with it long enough, even if they complained about the execution the whole time. CN's reception towards Kevin was that he was a meh final boss inferior to Otto and even English boards had people say he was an unworthy followup and forced just to have a human established character as the final boss. Tons of reception even after were asking>what the fuck was the point of Kevin? >The shooter section was just awkward, the giant chimera fight was just awful and a visual vomit while Deliverance Kevin would have been great if he wasn't flying around the edge like a fucking pussy most of the time.>Why did they make Project STIGMA to entirely different?
>>577337252Elyshitter learn to read. It focuses on more new characters with Mei mostly doing nothing with the important main cast mostly being new cast. But you would know if you played it.
>>577337727How did they get attached to the past 1 cast in the first place or any new characters introduced late in part 1?
>>577338523Elysia tourists don't have attachment beyond what they think is hyped and popular, becoming a self fulfilling prophecy. They got attached instantly then left.
>>577337727Tons of sequels ended up making iconic characters. For Dragon Ball, Gohan, Vegeta, and most of the popular cast are after Piccolo was defeated. Rather it's most early characters reduced to jokes like Yamcha or forgotten like most of the Red Ribbon Army or Crane school. At best Tao Pai Pai's loved but even Babidi is remembered more than most OG Dragon Ball cast.
Cocoon very confusing. WTF it mean by humanity? How Kiana, Kevin, and others with almost no personality similarities okay or wrong?
>>577338869The original Dragon Ball manga ended with the Boo saga. Babidi is just as original as Lunch.
>the most iconic form of the mail villain only revealed in the 3rd installment's secret movie
>>577339101Original Dragon Ball manga was already overhalf over when it got to when the west calls Z.
>>577338476No one likes the new APHO characters. Only Carole is tolerable, no one cares about two fags and a mask wearing retard.
It is time to read more Jojo and appreciate the part where Jonathan spent most of his time dead and as Dio's body.
>>577339430>adamfag trying to hide his selfinsert haremshit
>>577339430Most of the APHO versions of P1 cast are iffy too with how much their personality changed.
>tfw dudu is nowhere as good as part 7's johnny or gyro even though she has a horse
>>577337252>APHO still focuses mainly on p1 characters in adam's haremFixed
Is this you?
There's no stakes in honkai because there aren't any true antagonists.Otto? He lied about erasing 500 years of history. Just a lie to pressure Kiana into helping him.Kevin? He lied about Project Stigma being the only option. Turns out he's just putting some pressure on Kiana so she will turn into Finality and save the world.The honkai? The honkai just wants to embrace humanity and be good pals but doesn't know how. Kiana and friends just need to teach it how.What idiot thought it was a good idea to write a story in which every antagonist isn't a real threat or is actually helping the protagonists in secret. There's no conflict here, no payoff. It's fucking lame.
Me remember Kevin saying >We stole power from the Will of HonkaiYet WoH not exist.
Me remember Seele saying>Seele!And then she seeled all over the screen.
>>577339724Durandal is both funny and depressingly sad because she gets shoehorned everywhere and shilled as the dev's wife but she's still irrelevant to the story, still has a strictly supportive role and her big epiphany does nothing really unless they really decide to run away with it and truly promote her to main character status but I believe they really just wanted to shill her new suit no matter what even if it meant making the players feel like someone inserted a commercial ad right before the big climax with the commercial ad being Durandal's revelation and new S-rank like Kolosten.
I like Durandal a decent amount but the fact that she is still following Otto's orders after KNOWING what he did with Sirin/Kiana (because she was aware of HoV's awakening as well as Otto kidnapping her and awakening her, yet still helps Otto retrieve her) and causing all those deaths means she's a KEVIN-level "whatever it takes for humanity to """survive"""" and not an actual good guy who's trying to minimize casualties. So you can't trust her whenever she says things aren't black and white or sometimes evil must be overlooked for the sake of humanity, because she implicitly agrees with Otto's methods by not breaking away from Schicksal HQ.Even if she hates his methods but thinks her staying would help save the most lives, she's still less of a good guy than the ENTIRE FUCKING NORTH AMERICAN BRANCH AKA ANTI-ENTROPY and Saint Freya's entire faculty. Notice a trend? The real good guys DON'T FUCKING NEGOTIATE WITH HYPER-MEGA-TERRORISTS LIKE KEVIN AND OTTO, WHO BY THE FUCKING WAY, JUST NEGOTIATED WITH EACH OTHER IN ONE OF THE CHAPTERS
>>577339430Why people ask for apho 3 then?
>>577340710
I like the part where Dudu's hypocritical >muh power came from hard work btw best genes evergets indirectly called out by Helia's very existence being a character who has hard work but not magic genes so her hard work doesn't reap the same benefits.
>>577340710nobody does
>>577340710Elysiagenshitfags from twitter want their harem
Reminds me of a manga I read where part of the point is the super gifted eugenics monster beats enemies or overcame trials too quickly, thus not only detached from everyone else and doesn't know how to teach them because never went through their struggle, but that they themselves never grew much at all because they breezed through so easily.
>>577341367Is that Satoru Gojo?
>>577340710Trolling
Between the three S ranks Rita is the most normal of the cast so she absolutely had to train to get to that level and Sushang had to learn blade mantra to get her strength. Hardly anyone points out that Rita's the most normal because she's got no known lineage or extra special secret technique teacher from 500 years ago.
Sure but Rita is also a WHORE.
>be Welt>doing nothingName a more iconic duo
>>577341882Sushi fucks Bears. Okay, one Bear, but you get the idea.
>>577340710Because its better than part 2 genshittification. Fucking bizarre I know but APHO 2 ended up being the better storyline than literal trash made for Genshitter transbians. Unbelievable.
>elysiafag is desperately trying to shill how much he wants penis inside the girls because he hates yuriWhy is he so angry that they got rid of the male character?
I think part 2 would've succeeded if the character designs didn't look like overdesigned AI-generated chinese MMO genshin characters. That's where most of the negativity was coming from.
Part 2 had too many big boobs. They should've given the character designs more censoring and less armpits and less exposed navels and other sexualized parts. Sex decreases sales so it's better they make the game less sexual and add more male characters.
>>577342853You should just play Genshit instead of copying Mihoyo's token abuse and spamming AI-generated trash in the thread.
Yuri will prevail. Tere will be no more Adam, no more Captain. Kiana will fuck Mei, doggies and bears will be fucked, and Seele will Seele.
>>577021358>not a single shred of Elysia nor Durandal because CoD knows they suck
>>577343659>Seele will Seelebig if true
>>577327460APHO is terrible but Mihoyo implemented it in a very smart way>Is an ignorable side mode>Eased in by Mei, Welt, Teri and "Otto">It's in canon limbo>Only lasted 4 versions totalWhereas Part 2>Is main story>Entirely new characters>Sequel to the very popular Part 1>First impressions were a disaster
Senadina's design is too sexualized. They put a scar over her chest that glows to draw your eyes there. Big boobs are bad for this game.
>Side Story: APHO2>You need to fight using all the characters to cooperate and unlock their combo skills in order to win>You will run all over the giant's body and hook on from one point to another while fighting>Ends with an epic battle against a floating castle that transformed into giant robot from outer space who wants to eat our planet for energy>Saves the day with the power of technology and friendship>Main Story: Kolosten>Durandal needs to remember her real name to unlock her bloodline powers that never got tapped since Kevin's time>You will chase Otto while riding a horse that came packaged with Durandal's newly unlocked powers>Ends with a normal battle against Otto who plans to die anyway since he needed to in order to revert Kallen's death from 500 years ago>Saves the day with the power of special bloodline powers and a horseMihoyo's REAL passion project is not the main story of Honkai 3rd, it's APHO.
>>577344227>>Is an ignorable side modeJust like Elysian Realm was and then they invaded the main storyline and shifted everything. Didn't you see how Kolosten had Otto rename Herrscher of Earth into Stars because Adam and Mei convo said Earth was the last Herrscher they fought before Finality? Otto decided it's actually HERRSCHER OF STARS BECAUSE GRAVITY, K? Or how Bronya and Rita's convo was to lead into APHO Bronya's style or how ER Mei saying she won't need to fight Void Archives thus no need to know a backdoor? Or how they spoiled many things like Otto being dead in APHO before everyone's eyes and how many things must happen by necessity because APHO was a foregone conclusion?
Elysian realm was great when it was treated as a one-off story. This is the reason why part 2 was terrible and hated. But the part 2 genshittification apologist isn't ready for this conversation, and probably never will because xhe obviously hate ER for a completely different reason.
>Who cares about playable males in a non-canon mode that everyone will forget about in a month? Stop concerntrolling, shitposter.>Bunny suits? Ridiculous. They never should've been a thing anyway. Too trashy for Honkai characters. Totally appropriate China expressed outrage. You don't REALLY care about the compensation they got that we didn't, do you? Big deal. It's their game anyway.>Elysian Realm? It's a cool new game mode based off fan-favorite Threshold Breach. What? You don't like new things and think it's too grindy and lacks the soul of TB, anon? Stop dooming and shitposting, shitposter. You're why we can't have nice things.>You have a problem with Elysia? You think her design is ridiculous and doesn't fit a sci-fi action-adventure game? Well, she's a one-off in a new mode. A guide, really. Stop making such a big deal about the small stuff, shitposter. We'll never see her again.>You think Kolosten made no sense and was a giant middle finger to Teri fans? Come on. Yeah, it was a little silly cuz of Amazing Grace, but I applaud the writers for experimenting and being bold. Plus, we finally resolved what happened to the original Kiana Kaslana. Don't be a bitter teripedo. Your lolibaba was never hinted at getting a new suit or storyline.>APHO actually is canon, and now we're getting a Part 2? How does that even affect you? Just don't play it, or pick any of the other Adventure maps, lmao. So what if they aged up Bronya and gave her a large bust. Ever heard of second puberty, incel?>Now Elysian Realm is bigger than ever and there's a giant, unskippable arc about it in the main story? That's badass! Now we get to meet the other Flamechasers and see what really happened in the PE! You don't like more lore in your favorite game? What's wrong with you? You're just a shitposter?The Genshin tourists did this to us and now we are here.
>>577318948Wasn't really surreal because of how great this game was so it was more of a natural evolution plus they got really lucky with the covid boost.
>>577345206Ah yes, we should just ignore that the total genshittification of HI3 happened in part 2, from the unneccesarry UI change to the character designs to the initial censorship attempts.
>Elysian realm was gr-It was never great. Only elysiatwittershitters would've called it great. It was at best tolerable as an experimental side mode but it always introduced massive unnecessary retcons that destroyed the whole plot. Mei was always a non-character in her own story arc.>Retcons retcons retcons>Elysian realm namek>Le multiverses!>Akshually the honkai isn't retarded, this pink slut made it like that!!>Akshually it wasnt the virus that launched the nukes on every city, it was aponia's mind control that did it!!>Akshually, the will of honkai never even existed!! It was a PE AI all along!!>Akshually, SHE'S YOUR SISTER>Akshually, SHE'S ALSO YOUR SISTER>Yuribaiting Mei NTR yuriniggers every patch>inconclusive endingBut if you don't play the game then all the shitty pacing & problems seem minor. This is why elygenshitters like it.
>elysiafag talking about censorship when er had so much of it
>>577318948I hope you part 2 genshittification apologists would die.>maxresdefault
What else is there to say at this point? Honkai died its first death with the release of APHO, thus ensuring there will be absolutely no payoff or catharsis for the game's main story, which as it happens doesn't matter anyway since the C team writers rather use it as a dumping ground for nonsensical exposition and endless retcons, not to mention whoring the main story and the original, beloved characters out for endless Elysian Realm shilling. And speaking of, Honkai's second death, and one that ensured there will be no coming back from, occurred with the most bloated. unnecessary content in the history of gacha games, the Elysian Realm itself. What could have been an improved version of the fan favorite Threshold Breach became a cynical vehicle to show off even more cynical character designs, those of the generic titcow variety. Even if oyohim removed the loathsome ER game mode and retconned the entire year of wasted main story... nay, even if they pretended to remember fan favorites such as HoB Teri and HoC Sakura, Honkai would still be dead. After all, what happens when you remove the soul but the body still lives on? You get the Elysiafag wet dream.
The Genshinification schizoid can't admit Elysia's the problem but recent Part 2 has gotten better story reception, a bit not enough to bring the game back. Mei was highly sidelined in that arc too. She didn't develop much and is a cameraman like TB but at least she has a personality and back-and-forth talks. Elysia was the true focal point of ER and Mei's end role is>Oops, I brought the Herrscher that destroyed everything and Elysia sacrificed her self again to destroy it. I didn't contribute much to beating the threat I accidentally brought in.Just like how all Elysia did was bring tourists who don't pay.
Will he cry to other generals now?
Genshinfication is how a bunch of FOTMs orbit "the main character" (the pink thing for a lack of self-insert) and get replaced by the next one, never to be heard of again.It has always been about the story. Genshit is the textbook example of slop for the normalfag mass market.The seven Shoes almost made the same mistake just like how the entire start of Part 2 was a mistake, but they redeemed Selma and Shoujaku by making them gay, at least Shoujaku already did something beforehand, Sera and Ajita also have something to do and Entropy became more of a POV and less like an MC.Elysia, a self-insert, mixed casts, characters as shallow as a puddle, lack of yuri... All symptoms of one bigger cancer known as Genshinfication.Elysia is Genshit.
He wants male mc dick in the girls. He's scared of yuri because he self insert into male mcs like adam and genshin man
>>577345745He doesn't admit that this culture of self insert story sidelining crap literally started with ER alongside Genshin yet he admits that was fine. As if this game didn't have the most tourists back then who ditched the game after EE and only the core audience remained till the end. Genshification is also about the style of story progression and during this general during ER not only designs looked like they were taken from Genshin but the whole "bring a fotm cast for one arc and forget about them" shit that Genshin and now HSR is doing all the time was something new for HI3.It's usualy followed by posting ggz designs or random ecchi manga panel from honkai manga or character swearing, Like the character designs haven't gotten increasingly more sexualized or shoving feet in everyone's face since Elysia, which they never complain about though she's doubtlessly a huge part of what they complain about.
Watch as the Elysia tourist has no arguments but is compelled to defend his Genshit character who even HSRfags dread as their destroyer, and even Call of Duty doesn't want.
"Genshification" is also about the style of story progression and ot of people were complaining that not only designs looked like they were taken from Genshin but the whole "bring a fotm cast for one arc and forget about them" shit that Genshin and now HSR is doing all the time was something new for HI3. HI3 brings new characters but usually sticks with a core cast rather than 99% of a new arc being new characters with technically sim Kevin and sim Hua both being separate from their originals.Who's in ER besides them besides Mei? Raven? And sim versions of recurring characters were the most "just there" characters so I'm being ultra generous counting them as existing.The Elysia is the source of Genshit and all who deny are Elysiaslurpers. If he checked the archives for past /hig/ threads happening during ER, he'd see lots of complaints it's doing Genshin style from old timers.
This is what HI3 needs.
>>577345680The APHOfags and ERfags are all the same. That is what.
>>577346432You can say that but what is salvageable after they teamed up to kill HI3? Even if HI3 lived after, have you seen all the tourists that came in? Fucking Moon was dreadfully bad.
>>577346564Yuri. That is salvageable.
>Seele in APHO is "who the fuck knows."This is a major problem.
Post Kianamei to scare away elysiafags
All Kianas will fuck all the Meis. The elysiafag will pretend this won't happen in genshit, hsr, zzz, or other hoyo games. It will.
The one benefit of ER is a weekly free 500 crystals but the Elysiafag doesn't play to know this.
He likes ER because it introduces more male chars
>>577345745It was also timing. There was a new cast of characters which made it easier jumping into and Genshin was a recent hit. Her design and the other Flame Chasers being more sexualized helped. Elysia attracted tons of tourists that didn't stay. The only reason ER was 'popular' was because Genshin babbies and secondaries wanted to fuck Elysia's fat ass. If you see revenue, ER has the most but not proportionately the most. The sales after, which the tourists left, are less but within reach, which implies most tourists had no investment in time or money. If you were a new player, you didn't need to experience most of the previous story nor were you one of the KianaMei fans raging at NTR.
the borechasers are the second worst filler ever to be put in a honkai game, just below the herrscher of stars
The APHOfag feels the need to do apologetics because he doesn't want to admit the negative impact APHO had.
Reply not to the Elysiafag who is an Adam dickrider, wanting the most boring MC in the game to have girls on his dick. The Genshitter who doesn't play HI3 hates Dreamseeker because Dreamseeker gets her own personality, the male corporate mandate gets removed. and he can't self-insert anymore. He likes how APHO makes Mei into a useless damsel in distress again for the purpose of jumping on Adam's dick with Kiana gone. Watch every time how he refuses to criticize Elysia. It exposes him.The Elysiafag is mad his genshit ElyMei ship flopped and slopped so his last resort is his to hope that Kiana doesn't get another Mei, which she will because Hoyo advertise it themselves since males don't sell. He would realize this if he played the game instead of being a 2020-2022 tourist who only uses Twitter screenshots.
>>577021358>meiI fucking hate this fandom the self insert phags ruined it by inserting themselfs into a yuri story and they act suprised when the og fans spazes the fuck outEeverywhere i go i see tranys and ntr apologist be it yourubers or in the fandom that will defend any action hoyo takes as if they were their lord and savior while more critical people just do shit to start the drama with out poting out the true issues of ntr phags and self insert fans shitting up this game.It started with honkai impact 3 when they made a male mc for the extra mode where you got to date future version of this fucking yuri sluts, sure there was kevin before that in ggz that was already a bad sign but it still had super yuri pandering the infestation of cuck shit and self insert shit began with apho and its dating sim not only did it fuck up the timeline by inserting it into the middle of story but it also made characters made no sense comapred to their final version where Mei is suddently acting like sad widow that lost her yuri wife but not like that matter by the finale they made mei a slut that was a girlfreind to kevin, giflfreind to Elysia, while cucking kiana and sealing her of by the end in her cuckshed she didnt even give her a pat on the back she just fucked off to get fucked by adam back on earth (yea im parahrasing it but its prett much what it is in weeb eyes) while peopel litterly tell adam to comfort her. Why are honkai writers so into making mei a slut.
many many wordsinstead we need lots and lots of yuri
Elysiagenshitters are scared of female mc
>be Kolosten >do actual Genshin camero>Elysiafag never learned thisThis is what not playing the game does.
APHO marked the point the developers stopped caring about the current story (which was only at the midway point then), and started focusing on the future (APHO+SR). It feels like every arc since then was them winging it, because all they know is how they will end the story, not how they will get to it. APHO also has the problem where they can't actually explain anything that happened to the world and characters after because they need to be able to still make main story changes if they want too, as well as mhy just being as obtuse as possible as always. All that defeats the purpose of having this cool after-story. Then they have to keep the future as open as possible too, so nothing happens for 75% of it. Gameplay and characters are cool, though.
APHO doesn't exist.Yuri exists.
>genshification>but not mentionming er or kolosten as the primary cause
She will fuck doggy.
Helia's boobs are too big. There's bottom parts to her top which her big boobs cover. If we make them smaller then her body would stop covering her swimsuit.
Part 2 is too risky. Swimsuits and bunny suits upset the CCP and CN players. That's why Part 1 got rid of them. But Part 2 keeps playing with fire by adding Thelema, Songque, and other skimpy swimsuit outfits that might get Da Wei attacked.
Why do the other flame chasers barely go to the other games anyway? Kebin is an established character long before they were a group and he was in GGZ. But Kalpas, Mobius, and the others never get exported.
Nikke lostHI3 wonElysia Genshit lostPart 2 wonYuri will happen just like in Part 2Elysiafags still can't read.
hi3 writing was getting more and more pointlessly long (aka modern chinkslop) over time but you can pinpoint the exact moment genshit dropped and affected story qualitykolosten still gets a pass because it was basically the finale to the series but even that was affected>arc is like 20+ hours long>main plot point happens>its some retarded quantum physics technobabble bullshit>the only thing that explained how it worked is 2 sentences that some random scientist said at some random point in the arcthis is literally all hoyo writing nowthe main saving grace that hi3 had was continuity with good characters, end of arc cinematics and fanserviceelysian realm dropping killed all of that and i warned you fags that le elysia flamechasers and le kebin were the worst things to happen to hi3
>>577344828>ER Mei saying she won't need to fight Void Archives thus no need to know a backdoor?He never played the game to know this scene exists.
I like how new Seele makes ER go by so fast so i can get the Crystals.
Much wrong was done in separating this game from GGZ like the WoH retcon.
We could get Leylah battlesuit, chenxue, APHO mei, Tesla, Einstein, Adult seele, Cecilia/ himeko (if they want to do this bubble world bullshit like they are doing with elysia) and so much more but nooo, all they want is profit. If they want more players to come back then bring back our animated shorts that were also this identity of this game, bring back vocal songs as well. Genshit and HSR don't need those. They'll survive on their own without those. H3rd NEED those instead as for marketing but i guess the higher ups in mihoyo are too retarded to even understand basic marketing rules/how the market works. That's a big problem with pandering to Elytourists. Instead of attracting "new players/hsr players" who'd leave after an hour, fucking take care of the playerbase you have.
>>577021358Bronya must be disappointed we didn't get this collab instead.
>>577021358When will Mei get this attack? She has the weapon.
>>577340710Idk, i'm not really asking for it, but at the same time i would certainly enjoy seeing Seele's squad in action given her training regime, perhaps with her appearing as well. That is, if that's what they'd go with if they were to make that, which isn't exactly guaranteed so whatever. I'll just wait for P2 to be over and see where they'll go from there, not much point in thinking about it now.
>>577021358The superior pink
>>577340710Adam's haremfags. They love it when Kiana and Seele don't exist so Mei and Bronya are in his harem.
