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The boys edition

>Steam page
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3787240/MARVEL_Tkon_Fighting_Souls/

>TEAM TRAILERS :
>Unbreakable X-Men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwe13-BKiwo
>Amazing Guardians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nwtrXnN0vY
>Fighting Avengers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iab74kM-xA
>Knights of Doom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4qG-wqhLc
>Samurai Outriders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QGiaEkqYEE


>Phoenix Cyclops reveal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GrMqmDi-SU

>Opening intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSk3IMcgVQY

>Is the PC Port fixed?
https://ismarveltokonfixed.netlify.app/


Previous Thread: >>576884767
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Dooming mood
Victor won
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Dead Shit Game

https://ismarveltokonfixed.netlify.app/
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It's insane that hitting an assist doesn't even increase its cooldown. They really couldn't come up with a single downside to mashing them out every 3 seconds since even even if you do get happy birthday'd the damage from it is tiny compared to how often having an assist hurtbox layered over yours will fuck up your opponents combos.
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steamcharts at 3k day 3
melty blood had more day 3 just sayin
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Will they let Magik having otk combos from midscreen survive the first balance patch?
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>>577025278
daily peak is all that matters
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honestly the worst part about this game is how few skins they released with
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>>577025184
>Maxdood even uninstalled!!!

Anyone who watches FG "content creators" needs to be euthanized
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>>577025897
Stop coping
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>>577022659
You might be a god gamer but between 5U which has a pretty shitty tell, his 236x which are much harder to hit with 2H and have different timings on L and M and a million assists flying around on the screen which will lead into guess for game once people are optimised I don't want to be flailing at full screen on a wish punish.
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>>577026115
capecopers are pathetic
if max would be hyped: damn our dood
if sonicfox would play: damn strong competition
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>>577025278
i dont know why you're posting this like it isn't sonys fault, meltys biggest problem was the gameplay
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not sure I like doom in this game
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>>577028471
This is not a game to have a regular dash in, his normals aren't particularly great and you can't keep people out with just laser and mirror. On the other hand landing the laser as an assist > active tag > ex grab > whatever > set orbital laser and active tag out is clearly really strong and lots of characters can't convert like that. Some characters seem much better not as point.
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>>577025184
>>577025278
The crabs in a bucket mentality people have with fighting games is so fucking tiresome. I love fighting games but I detest the FGC with all my soul. Every general, every space online is rife with fuckers shitting on a fighting game's shortcomings ad nauseam. The PC port is buns for Tokon and deserves criticism but making a website dedicated to it and being a steamcharts number live ticker is just jobless behaviour.
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Are Deadpool's grenades order random? I really find him fun but trying to make him optimal seems pretty hard to do.
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>>577029271
But max dood uninstalled!!!
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i can't wait to find out who the rest of the characters coming in season 1 are. i need you, Carol!
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>>577025184
>>577025278
>>577026115
/sfg/ trolls are here. great.
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>>577029271
Surprise, lot of people who play fighting games are insufferable faggots with inflated egos. You can't reason with the FG "community."
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>>577029348
They are random but they must all come out before you can pull the same one again so you will know what the third grenade is going to be.
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>>577029271
>can't refund game
>sony retardness will kill the game on PC
Sorry for getting angry I guess.
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>>577030273
>Too retarded to know you can refund past 2 hours

Many such cases
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https://youtu.be/vPzeSSuSvug?t=189

can anyone tell me why i always break wall here and never get the wall splat? im new but idk what i could be fucking up already. its the M, H, forwardQS in the air if the timestamp doesnt work
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>>577029271
the website was made because some snkcuck was seething that a similar website was made for the last KoF which had actually broken matchmaking even worse than this. All crabbas in a bucket.
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https://www.twitch.tv/eduardo_hook
sonicfox and his disgusting green gobbler running a set vs hook rn
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>>577030382
There is no wall break in the X-Men mansion stage
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>>577030382
Wallsplats only occur if there is a solid wall. X Mansion doesn't have wallbreaks. For stages with Wallbreaks you need to reach the edge of the stages before you will get a splat
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>>577030273
why did you play past the refund window, dummy? it took you 3 hours to realize you weren't having fun?
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>>577030382
You can only splat at the ends of certain (most) stages. You can navigate in training mode with reset + QS/dash macro (on default inputs) to different parts of the stage.
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>>577030527
>>577030580
>>577030609
bruhhhh so i have to learn a different ender then i guess
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if you're in the EU, you can always get a refund if there's an actual issue with the game you can put the official tweet noting the issues in the refund request and I think they legally have to approve it. I've gotten refunds for indieshit with 10+ hours this way.
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>>577025015
Who here are /MAXIMUM CARNAGE/
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>>577030694
If you just use air normals like this it's probably best to just press jH again for the knockdown and then you can pick up with an assist. For midair combos doom only really has air ex cage which works midscreen I don't know about in the corner.
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At this point i think they're trying to do a big patch fixing a lot of the issues at once like the team registering bug l, character lesson crashing etc. alongside the PC port just because they have to go through authentication for a patch to be approved which costs money
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>>577030497
No one cares about your guro, zoophile streamer
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When the PC port is fixed i promise to host lobbies
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>>577030468
well tokon matchmaking is broken too takes 10-20minutes with 4k online

would be nice to have
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>>577030948
they did nothing after beta this will take months
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>>577030948
>>577031082
They won't do anything and the game will completely die on PC, Sony is sabotaging this
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>>577030984
take your meds
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It could be a whole bunch of things but if the stuttering is caused by the anti cheat not liking some common windows stuff then the problem is unfixable because sony won't let the game run without an anti cheat because of PSN hacking paranoia.
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>>577031273
Beta was dog shit for me, actual launch game runs way better. They did something.
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>>577031376
Sounds like you need to, animal fucker
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>>577030948
i sure hope so. the only saving grace of a disastrous launch is that people love a comeback story. all we need is a great patch and Max to put the word out that the game's fixed and we'll be back on the conveyor belt to huge success.
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>>577031751
Tokon beat the sauceless allegations now we just need to overcome the PC port being shit.
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Im just going to jump up and leave this iceball here. Dont worry it's just sitting there it cant do anything to you.
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>>577031751
>We need X streamer!

You're everything wrong with fighting games
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>>577031913
i mean, what do you want me to say? we'll need a mouthpiece with a lot of ears listening to them to spread the good news. people know this, that's why they're doing the reverse rn talking about how Max uninstalled the PC version and moved to PS5 to play.
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>>577029271
This happens to all fighting games people set as their target. Only Street Fighter and Uni didnt got hate like that. Imagine being someone who likes 2XKO and everyone dogpiles and even lies about game you like. I really liked DNF Duel and that game got shat on 24/7 which resulted in it dying after couple of months. You fags type this now but im sure most of you made fun of 2XKO,COTW and other fgs but when its time for game you like and enjoy to get gaped you moralize like a little bitch lmao.
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>>577029271
>jobless behaviour.
"oh noes I'm not a slave to a random corpo dude OH THE HORRORS" - said nobody ever

KEKKK imagine being proud of being a live slave
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>>577029271
it's just Capcultist losers. don't let 'em get to you, OG.
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>>577032158
I don't like 2XKO, i played it and it wasn't for me, I don't shitpost about it, i don't think about it, i play games i like instead like a cognitive adult.
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>>577032342
You're right, worst fanbase by a country mile.
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>>577032371
Thats fair anon im talking about others but you're outlier here. Even before this game dropped afrer Beta you had faggots being happy how 2XKO is dead or made fun of other games and that was despite how PC port already was during Beta. I personally got a key so cant refund, I moved to Gears of War beta for now ASW might release hotfix soon hopefully but as of right now yeah fuck this I have issues on 9800X3D with 5080 and 64GBs of RAM.
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>bro I did the vsync/EGS/other shitty fix and now I get 59fps and can play online!
This is why the matches are laggy isn't it?
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>>577030948
They would have to completly remove Theia from the game and they wont do that.

https://reversingthread.info/index.php/2024/01/10/the-finals-defeating-theia-packer/

All issues with Tokon point towards single threaded CPU performance and memory access issues Theia creates. What helps is having high clocked DDR5 CL30 sticks and CPU with good single thread performance and saucy cache.
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AHAHAHAHAH LMAOOOAAOAOAOAOAOAOA
WHAT A GENERATIONAL FLOPPERONI
TOKONTANIC
TOKONTANIC
TOKONTANIC

WHEEEEEEEEEZE
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yeesh this game is done on PC, like jesus christ how the fuck do you fumble the next big marvel fighter lol
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>>577030595
>>577030359
I mean that I like the game but I play on PC and it's going to die.
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>577033478
>577033429
>the worst shitposters have the fucking 4chanpass to spam on 30 sec cooldown
shit's crazy
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>>577033429
>>577033478
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>>577032687
cheering for the PC version of Tōkon to fail is the closest thing they'll have to another MVC game for at least another decade. they've gotta enjoy this while it lasts.
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO OKI OR ANYTHING HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT A DOGSHIT GAME
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>>577034735
>rolls at you and mashes L
nothin personnel, kid
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>>577034840
It's so fucking HARD everything in this game is fucking retarded precise, not even fucking BBCF is like this
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>>577034258
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>>577034735
End with j2H, hold up back then press air dash macro when they flash to chase. If they stayed in the corner do j2H, if they rolled out you can do jL cross up to keep the corner but this will lose to reversal 2H which you need to do jH/j2H to beat depending on who you're playing.
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>This update includes PC performance and stability improvements, including reduced lag and fixes for frame drops.
THIS TIME FOR SURE
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I love when someone jumps over storms tornado and then reversing the wind and having it fly into their back from offscreen
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>>577035328
PC SAVED
RIP TO ALL THOSE WHO BOUGHT PS5s
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>>577035082
wouldn't you have to be thinking about Tōkon to make/save/post an image like this? i don't get it.
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>>577035328
if this update doesn't fix anything it's over
i reinstalled tekken 8 because i was bored and i have constant 60 fps with all the ugly effects going on and water effects from stages
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does storm flight have any usage? I never see anybody using it
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>>577035649
mix after wall slump or probably even midscreen with a good back assist
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>>577029271
Imagine in any shape or form doing damage control for Sony. You should've been reincarnated as something else.
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>>577035328
YEAH WE ARE SAVED TOKON GODS WE WON WE WON WE WO- *update does nothing*
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>>577035328
PLEASE GOD ABOVE
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Find it really hard to believe they've come up with a magic bullet in three days.
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we are so BACK
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>>577035726
You're an illiterate retard if you think I'm doing damage control.
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why did they make peni so irresistibly sexy?
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>>577035509
How many fps are you supposed to have in Tokon? 60 is bad?
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>>577035509
It made me reinstall monster hunter wilds to see if that runs better now and yea wilds runs smoothly while tokon doesn't
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>>577036132
You are supposed to have 60 but Tokon has that dogshit sony anticheat that makes it drop to 50s, all fighting games are locked to 60
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>>577036132
You are supposed to have 60 in every fighting game.
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>got my Diamond before maintenance
Later nerds
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>>577036089
they didn't you're just a pedo my brotha
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>>577036089
LOOKIN' GOOD PARTNER
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I love how a lot of characters straight up swear
Carnage goes "I'LL FUCK YOU UP" lmao
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>"and then the developers released a miracle patch that fixed all the issues and the player base exploded and the game was a huge success and everyone was happy"
When has this ever happened before?
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>tag in Deadpool playing as Magneto
>he starts chanting MUTANT RIGHTS NOW MUTANT RIGHTS NOW
I fucking love this nigga
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>>577036782
>and the crab that escaped the bucket lived a happy and fruitful life and wasn't killed for human consumption.
When has this ever happened before?
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>>577036782
NOW
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>>577036782
LoL when they nerfed Evelynn/Kassadin/Yumi/K'Sante
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Expecting it to take more than one patch but glad to see some progress
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>>577036934
A lot of times, actually.
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>>577035328
Probably nothingburger of a patch

It would take a miracle to fix the game with this one patch.
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>>577037120
everyone ripped off that boomer who kept a store lobster and then killed it prematurely because he left the tank too high a temperature right?
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>>577037078
This, probably a series of patches. Maybe they'll do something.
lol
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>UE5 stuttering
>EAC stuttering
>Theia stuttering
>Sony SDK stuttering
yeah I don't think this is all going to be fixed in a 1.01 patch
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So, do they...?
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nothing will be fixed until they decide to remove theia and those sony sdk background processes which they will never do
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>>577036804
It's especially funny since Deadpool isn't even a mutant.
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>>577037723
She doesn't actually like the Champion. In the comic she is introduced in she hated him and just used him to get more power.
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>>577037527
>>577037984
They are going to remove all the DRM, anti-cheat and Sony stuff in the next patch, It'll fix everything. Trust me, my uncle works at ArcSys.
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>>577038386
we're going to see in 2 hours
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>>577038386
i thought your uncle is marvel
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>>577038371
You don't have to like someone to do it
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>>577036804
>>577038274
Justice for Wade
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So what's the stage regulations going to look like for tournament? Will the stage pick just remain random?
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>>577038492
I have several uncles.
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Will they give Champion a classic costume so he can have his Norwood 6?
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>>577039794
ye
like tekken
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>>577035328
Despite some people saying they didn't fix anything from the beta to release, I'm pretty sure they did something as my performance was way better than in the beta. I believe this will be the same. A few more fixes, some people who were getting 58fps will finally be able to play, other people with worse performance will still be locked out of the game. This won't be a complete fix, but hopefully will make people more optimistic to the game overall
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>>577040247
it took japanese devs years to fix kofxv matchmaking tokon needs 5 more patches minimum
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They needed to put a benchmark with the improvements, because now all the retards who play Strive with potato mods will infest matchmaking and cause one sided rollbacks to people who can actually run the game.
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Just bought the game
I'm most interested in goblin but I heard he was bad.
How bad is he?
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>>577037182
Not really. All it would take is replacing the pajeet who did the netcode with a white guy.
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>>577040247
Steam overlay says I'm getting 59fps. Is that bad?
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>>577040672
He is top tier
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>>577040903
Hard to say if you're getting 59fps or 59.9
It would be more useful to use another software like MSI Afterburner to check frametime and see if it is 16.6ms
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>>577040672
He's probably not bad.
The character is just hard
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>>577040903
enough to rape your op experience
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>>577033429
>>577033478
based imagine i added screenshot too
>>577035328
A sf6 style empty patch incoming. Sony malware going nowhere. can't be solved
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>>577040672
I think he's probably shit if you're bad or average at the game and insane if you're good, with the glider he's got crazy mobility but without it he just has weird slow projectiles.
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We need a back assist tier list
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>>577041667
Yeah gohby seriously needs to manage his glider usage and get good value outta it
His mix and pressure and neutral is insane on glider but without it he's just pretty bad
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>>577038371
its in story mode too. she begs the heroes to stop him.
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>>577041158
>and see if it is 16.6ms
what does that mean, is that bad or good?
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>>577042076
SSS+++ tier: blade
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>>577042076
your mom is s tier back shot assist.
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I'm surprised nobody is playing danger at all.
She doesn't feel that hard.
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>>577042142
it means it's running at 60fps (or 59.94fps depending on your monitor)
>1 second = 1000 miliseconds
>1000/16.6 = 60 fps
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>>577040672
He probably has the fastest overhead in the game when on glider
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if the game is fixed after maintenance i will buy
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>>577042252
>start spamming shit
>I use my universal projectile ignoring flying dash and fullcombo her
This might unironically be the first I see where zoners are actually balanced or even underpowered unlike every other game where they bitch and moan because they can't turn off their brain and rape you senseless
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>>577042252
She doesn't feel that good either though
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>>577042384
I'm pretty sure she's not really supposed to play pure zoning.
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>>577042252
feels like free 2H for half her health every time she moves.
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>>577042676
I think people just gotta get used to not always dashing with her.
Dash is strong but her buttons move forward alot and her 2m goes really far.
I'm also sure she can shoot downward as well to call out or lock those people down.
But eh.
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...Huh? 10 GB patch? What the fuck? Are they completely re-doing the game? LOL
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>>577043508
This is either very good or very bad
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>PATCH NOTES
>10GB of Sony SDKs added to help estabilize the game
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CAN YOU FEEL THE HOPE
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>>577043508
Claudo, fixo PC porto netucodo desu. Noru makingu mistako.
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>>577043508
>>577044235
Not to be a pessimist but please be aware that this is a UE5 game
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>>577044284
>>577043920
>>577044235
>Damn, they're not giving up?!
>Jarvis, add 10 GB of Playstation bloatware, pronto!!!
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>>577043508
lots of games just download entire sections insteadof modifying small sections of code. youll redownload assets for nothing.
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>>577043508
Some games are just like that. Aal the files are bundled up, so when anything changes, the whole bundle gets swapped leading to crazy downloads every time.
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hows the patch?
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>>577044950
maintenance isn't over yet
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>>577044993
yes it is, i just finished downloading it. trying it out now
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>>577042076
S Tier
Magik

A Tier
Blade
Spiderman
Storm
Goblin

B Tier
everyone else

Shit Tier
Ms Marvel
Peni
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>>577045093
oh nvm servers are still down despite the patch downloading
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>>577042076
>>
rank the characters on how honest they are.
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>>577045447
what the hell were they even thinking for ms marvel's back assist? the proximity changing specials were enough, you don't need her to waste a full second to dodge out of the way of nothing
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>>577045921
>Dishonest GOD
Goblin
>Dishonest
Panther, Spiderman, Blade, Doom, Ms. Marvel (shit tier doesn't matter, plus on block grab???), Carnage (based), Ghost Rider
>Honest
Everyone else
>Honesty Incarnated HOLYYY
Cap
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>>577045921
>SSS Tier
Ms. Marvel
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Is the game fixed? I can't try It because I refunded
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>Helldivers is beating the shit out of this game on a Monday morning
Yea, Marvel's gonna have some questions, SONY
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>>577046372
wow almost like its in maintenance for several hours you retarded steam nigger
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>>577046039
Back assists are just a balance mess. We got Magik getting to cover 2/3 of the screen in fire including the air, while carnage, spiderman, goblin, Magneto and blade giving you full screen combos on hit.

But then we have Ms Marvel and Danger having slow as fuck windups before doing mediocre moves and Peni is throwing her trash everywhere
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>>577046460
Don't feel defeated. I'm sure Tokon looked pretty sitting on a steep 10k players over the weekend.
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>>577025082
is this drawn by the Boku no hero artist or is it just a coincidence
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I'm reading Discord
Apparently the framerate shit is somewhat fixed? Lots of people happy
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The servers are not up yet, but if you guys want a sliver of hope fuel, the patch already seem to have some improvements

the first screenshot (that I even posted a couple days ago) show the micro stutters I had all the time and couldn't get rid of

the second one is right now after the patch

also the game finally saved my Team lol

cpu chilling at 50%
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>>577047252
let's see !!!
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We have rolled out a number of performance improvements including:


Reduced CPU load to help improve overall responsiveness and reduce lag-related issues

Fixed a bug that could cause sudden performance drops during gameplay

Improved backend crash reporting so we can track down issues and improve stability faster
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im booting up sisters
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>>577047334
i do hope they also fixed matchmaking
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reports are in:
people who had 57-59 FPS before now get a locked 60
game is saved
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>>577046664
>marvel
>auto combo
>quick skill buttons
i guess it's impossible to make fighting games leave its niche status.
i don't really understand, because today's gaming landscape is so intertwined with social media, since people love posting their clips online, and fighting games are such a good source for cool clips.
>but people hate framedata and execution barriers
some mfers spend hours memorizing smoke spots on countless cs maps. so many people play mobas and they have to memorize items, match-ups, do macro and micro.
i just don't get it.
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game is saved?
should i buy?
t. rtx 2060 and 11th gen i7
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is the game actually saved or are people just being overly hopeful
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https://www.twitch.tv/chrisf_22 pc version looks fixed so far
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>>577048119
THEY FIXED EVERYTHING!!!!!!!(I haven't started the game yet)
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>patch saved the PC port
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>>577029271
This is literally the fault of tokoniggers shitting on every other fighting game. If you didn't want this to happen then you should've stopped those faggots from being faggots. But you didn't and now you're posting sad bart edits from 2018
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still getting the 8f of rollback with a friend, not fixed for me.
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>>577048670
ig they need to fix online still
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>>577048670
get your friend to run a frametime graph
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>>577048630
This happens for every fucking game you mongoloid retard. Drink bleach and jump head first into incoming traffic.
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>>577048670
Who has the shit PC? You or him?
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>>577048937
Or he can just run Tokon and hug his PC
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wow performance is even better on egs now
seeth and cope steamshills
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>>577048991
it's not the PC you stupid fucking faggot how many times do you retards need to be told this?
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>>577049870
What is an egs and why do you sound like an enormous faggot?
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>>577050048
So you then lol
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>>577048242
He's fighting a Japanese player at a solid 60 fps with no rollback, looks good
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They completely fixed matchmaking and the PC port. The game is saved.
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performance is way better but i cant find a casual match for 5 mins..
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https://old.reddit.com/r/MarvelTokon/comments/1vknnks/pc_patch_just_fixed_all_my_performance_issues/ bruh is it actually fixed
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>>577050126
Egs is the plural form of an egg. You drop the second g because English is funny like that, some plural forms are inconsistent and wacky.
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>>577050597
casuals all go to the public battle hub, they don't queue. try ranked or go there
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2XKO cucks in shambles
SF6sissies prepping the noose
Tokon won
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>>577050746
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>PC Fixes

>Reduced CPU Usage
>Multiple fixes have been implemented to reduce overall CPU usage, including:
>-An issue where the CPU ran high throughout the start up process.
>-An issue where additional load on the system was being created due to periodic audio processing during matches.

>Sudden Performance Drops
>We identified an issue where the game was regularly checking for available audio inputs. These unnecessary checks could cause sudden frame drops and performance drops. This has now been addressed.

>Frame Rate Drops
>Fixed an issue where the frame rate would drop when certain resolutions were selected.

Please direct the Sony apology form to his desk.
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>>577051121
>>-An issue where additional load on the system was being created due to periodic audio processing during matches.
was wondering why the audio in my game kept crackling/hitching
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https://www.twitch.tv/broskifgc yoo broski on tokon doe
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>broski "if her age isn't in the clock" fgc
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any min specs anons over here can tell me how's the performance?
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>>577051527
broski with the tokon biddy das od
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>>577051527
>#ad
>charity tag
damn
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>>577052069
broskis gonna like this game he's a nen impact enjoyer
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>>577051527
Diddy ahh street cuck can’t even do GG combos
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no linux no buynux
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its done
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>Generally had a problem with finding a team in team games with there always being one character I had to toss in to just be filler that I hated using (baring KOF, as long as Iori, Terry, Athena and Vaness exist in a game I'll be fine)
>Decide to use Midnight Sons for shits
>Actually vibe well with all four
Man Ghost Rider and Wolverine can get away with some stupid stuff and Magic is good overall. Blade it whatever but I need a bit more time with him.
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>>577052743
They literally fixed everything other than Linux support. It’s perfect
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>>577051978
GPU: 1660 Super 6GB VRAM
CPU: i5 10400F
Ram: 16GB
playing bordless and fps hasn't dropped, cpu temps and usage went down by a lot post patch...
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>>577052738
you tell them sis!
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>>577052889
what res and quality preset?
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>>577052978
1600x900 (haven't tried higher res yet) and these are my settings...
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lmaoing at all the retards who double dipped
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>>577052889
good to know.
will buy it.
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still got 8f rollback twice...
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peni feels so bad in neutral your random item and fireball are too ass + you're a big body with shit airdash
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>>577053465
Have you tried not being a pedophile?
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>>577053572
sybau she was my first main in rivals because of her gameplay and now i wanted to main her here
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>>577053465
use her as an assist she has some good ones
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Sources tell me Marvel Tokon is stable.

Please god
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>>577053247
Wow, cpu usage and temps used to go way up even in the menu screen, what kind of nihon fix all button did they press?
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>>577053451
the danger is now that people who can't actually run the game on specs try to sneak in making it hard to tell what the problem is. People on the discord are saying they still have issues and are replying "specs shouldn't even matter for a game like this" when people ask what they're running.
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>>577053936
Yeah they're the soivers who can't play without potato mod
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>>577053936
Saw some guy happy because he is now getting 58 FPS instead of 45 like before. He is absolutely hopping into ranked despite not hitting 60
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new update
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>>577054162
>a majority of people
what?
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>>577053465
peni's design feels so weird, her bots feel low impact, too delayed and random, to make much use of them. shes also basically a big body with 0 upsides to it.
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>>577054162
what fucking crashes lmao, this type of website should be made by an actual fan of the game not hater
right now it should be maybe? since it's only the first hour
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>>577054040
>>577054138
this is why retarded jap devs need to get their shit together and put benchmarks in their games
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>>577054162
I have not seen a single person report crashes. Still having issues, sure. but no crashes.
Coincidentally, the website owner is experiencing crashes, so suddenly is "majority"
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>>577054162
I rather trust memes than some pls buy my game shills

Matchmaking takes too long, lobby desync still there, UI bugged next
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>>577054294
She needs to be able to throw out multiple bots rapidly. Even her assist throws two of them
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>>577054162
This website got btfo by Tokon the day it went live. Get fucked.
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>>577054427
i had the fatal error issue you just have to uninstall playstation sdk and reinstall it through the games folder
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I don't think I've ever played a fighting game with less rewarding knockdowns than this.
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>>577054162
>>577054472
Rename to istokonmatchmakingstillbroken.com
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I.... I tried to Drive Parry a fireball in this game...
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>>577054472
>Matchmaking takes too long
they literally fixed this lmao
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>>577054573
Avatar says hello.
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I am the only Tokon player on this Earth that does not use Blade and/or Black Panther.
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>>577054573
a wake up counterhit is a tod it shouldn't be straightforward
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>>577054692
6L+A through it
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>>577054961
i play magneto/cap/marvel/iron man but ngl i'm kinda starting to be drawn to magik more, she just seems so easy mode
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>>577054961
My main team is Loki/Deadpool/Goblin/Magik
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>>577054758
not mentioned not fixed
can't shill like that
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The game still drops frames below 60. On auto configurations it tries to put me on all highs so clearly everything should work properly. But it stutters on all settings, high, medium, lows. Unfortunate.
I requested a refund at 3 hours, hope they will give it to me.
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there's a bunch of people complaining in the main discord channel but not a single one of them has posted their specs it's insane
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How the hell are you supposed to to the 85hit storm combo lesson.
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>>577055296
definitely something on your end because my frametimes are way better on 5600x 7800xt 2k res
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>>577055296
Can you take a screenshot of your fps counter while you play? I'd find it hard to believe thats the case, i think you're just stirring shit up NGL
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>>577055306
if you put a fireball and super it makes the fireball a tornado so overlap them
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Kill potato mod low spec users
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>>577055412
Definitely something on sony's making a game filled with bullshit end.
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still can't run it
Ryze 5 3600
24 gb RAM
RTX 2070 Super

am i just cooked and need to upgrade or what? i dont usually play anything besides FGs on my PC so i never really cared about upgrading, but if i am bottlenecked here I guess I'd have no choice. i'm above the minimum reqs so idk.
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i wish ghost rider hits felt more meaty
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>>577055767
did you do the shader warmup? and what do you mean by can't run it
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>>577055767
lil above your specs can't hold 60fps either, encountered 8 frames rollback too often. NOTHING EVER CHANGES
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>>577055849
yeah i did shader warmup
still can't get a solid connection online. still have micro stutters although less frequently. friends still get rollback but once again, less frequently.
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>>577055943
>can't hold 60fps either
>encountered 8 frames rollback too often
brother you're the problem
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>>577055698
>>577055943
these posts are clearly the tortanic sharty niggas trying to stir shit up after the patch fixed the game so they can't doom and numberspost anymore lmao
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>>577056070
brother i want to play so badly lol i would not lie
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Literally same thing as before for me. Tested with a friend as well.
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>>577056070
? Maybe wait till a streamer complains
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>>577055306
if you use her aerial tornado special and keep blowing yourself up with wind, storm will just keep going until she hits the ground. you can abuse that for a bunch of extra hits.
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>>577056182
grim
maybe next patch
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Potatomode third worlders and linuxtrannies are crashing the official discord with no survivors lol
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>>577056070
There’s that dude who was literally posting a fake steamcharts. People just declaring that there’s no one online when there are actually thousands of people online. I’m used to people hating on Arcsys but the outright propaganda campaign against this game seems unusually aggressive
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>5070ti
What do you guys run for Graphics settings?
Not sure if I should use DLSS Balanced or TSR.
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>>577056446
these retards should cry about the MM
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>>577056459
its probably people who hate sony more than arcsys haters
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>>577056412
I'm not waiting anymore, man. Enough chances were given, beta, release, first patch. I'll just try to get my money back.
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>>577056462
you can run it maxed out with dlss quality at 1440p it's not a gpu heavy game at all
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>>577056459
>unusually aaggressive
nah bro, any game that threatens shitty ass slime fighter gets piled on. without fail. the funniest thing is these queers don't even play "their" game, they just jack off to the characters.
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>>577056459
Capcucks are nuts
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>using dlss
>in a fighting game
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anyone here with 5700x3d or 5800x3d? how is the game running?
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i swear this nigga has said he's refunding the game every 3 hours for the last 5 days
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>>577056651
Don't be absurd, I refuse to believe anyone could masturbate to the horror engine characters.
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Anyone saying they’re still having issues is lying
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Am still having issues
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>>577056603
>it's not a gpu heavy game at all
because resolution is cpu heavy. and if the sony processes weren't eating up the rest of the resources, we wouldn't have a problem.
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>>577057037
Psychotic cope what can I tell you. But sure schizo about this being a conspiracy by sf6 mafia
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does anyone know if you're vulnerable on jump startup?
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>>577057037
don't think they are, there are thousands of dumbasses playing on 10 year old laptops
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you guys think i will be able to run this game with a r5 2600 and a 6700xt?
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>>577054162
>make a website dedicated to shitting on Tokon
>game gets fixed literally the next day
>still have to push random made up bullshit to prevent the site from turning into irrelevancy
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>>577056603
>>577056740
Yeah you guys are right.
TSR
1440p
100 render resolution
Everything on Best Quality (except shadows).

>>577053852
What's this layout software again?

Also how to check input delay, dunno if it's in the steam layout?
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>>577056559
so did all don't worry
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>>577057037
i still do and really want to play the game, i would not lie

>>577055767
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>>577056803
Me. 5800x3d Flawless.

To those who are still having problems maybe try giving process lasso a shot. I've been using it and didn't have problems pre and post patch.

What it does is if you are using something it deprioritizes some process thats hogging cpu to make your main program run faster. It's probably helpful here because sony runs 10+ SDKs while running tokon.
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>>577056740
ps5 uses upscaling for tokon, too
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>>577057037
Nah I believe because it's the same people trying to run the game on elderly cpus
>>577057304
Funny that you ask
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>>577057331
reinstall the game
there was a post in here saying something about reinstalling sony sdk from games folder
install rtss select the games exe and put it at 59.9 fps
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>>577057323
>ESL
The doomer shitposting makes sense now
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>>577057470
>THIS 8 (EIGHT) YEAR OLD CPU THAT WAS MARKETED AS MID RANGE AT RELEASE IS MID RANGE TODAY
kill these retards please
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>>577057504
I'll try to reinstall. I've done the RTSS thing and no difference, but I will try again. Thanks.
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>>577057609
the sdk thing worked for me https://steamcommunity.com/app/3787240/discussions/0/589560061703146815/
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>>577057703
Game doesn't crash for me though, just the standard FPS drops and 8f rollback with friends. Should I still try?
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>>577057821
do your friends have potatoes? 8f rollback only happens if you're facing someone with a bad pc
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>>577057304
A 2600 is really pushing since this game is very CPU bound. Technically a 2600 clears the minimum requirements, but we're having CPU issues right now so... If you really want to paly the game you could try and get a refund if it doesn't run.
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>>577057470
i suppose that's a no then? shame.
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>>577057821
you cause more 8f suffering by trying
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You all owe Sony a massive apology, I told you it was Arcshitstem works being incompetent PC devs. They take payment in PSN subscriptions.
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at least my 4080 isn't hitting 59 fps anymore i guess
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>>577057932
No, they have rollback. I posted my specs here

>>577055767
I know it's not an amazing computer by any means but is it considered a potato? Like I said, I don't really play any other games than FGs. If i HAVE to upgrade, I will. But I am hesitant because it doesn't seem like it's a perfect fix.
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I remember there were some playstation files that you had to manually delete when you uninstall. Which ones?
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>>577058223
google how to remove tokon malware
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>>577057956
will probably do that. the beta ran at 56 fps on auto but i didn't have the time to try it out at all and tinker with the settings.
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So which intern was fired for releasing the dogshit netcode on release
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>>577058792
There's nothing to suggest a netcode issue, it's just FPS drops will always cause rollbacks? Unless I missed something.
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>>577058792
Netcode is fine. I don't know why people are complaining about it. If you're getting 8rbf at 50ms it's because your opponent's PC can't run the game and there's nothing the netcode can do about that.
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I thought the patch made things worse but for some reason the auto detect settings turned on DLAA lol
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>>577058938
but why force them one sided on op and stick to it?
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>>577059140
I'm not an expert but the person who is lagging always has access to their own inputs and the opponents who isnt lagging which are consistently sent across and it's hard to notice frame drops of one or two frames per second on your own end. But the person who isn't lagging is constantly missing the laggy persons frames and their game has to keep rolling back once it receives them which are much more disruptive.
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>his rig to too shit to play a 2d fighter with DLAA with no downsides
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>>577059605
It was dropping frames in supers >_<
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>>577059605
>DLAA with no downsides
input lag?
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https://youtu.be/IBjlKVnrjAQ
IT’S UP
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post battle tunes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkgjK1gOBj8
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Look at this dork
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>>577057319
MSI afterburner, and I'm not sure...
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>broski playing peni and kamala
not beating the allegations
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>>577060290
Can't believe Jersey's superhero Ms. Marvel is out there doing gang signs
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>>577056719
>>577056651
they are strivers
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best way to cheese survival mode? i want magnetos costume 7
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>>577059087
whats the best setting
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>>577060650
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why are you playing a tagslop with such horrible gameplay?
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>>577060734
Probably TSR, can't imagine any of the AI stuff is good for fighters.
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>>577060805
game is extremely fun thoughbeit
i love tag fighters
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>>577060805
this is tokon, not mvc
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>>577060805
legit the best lab game in a decade+
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blade and magik are so busted
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>>577060878
why do you love tag fighters when they disincentivize everything that's good with fighting games? No interactivity, one sided combos, almost no neutral? Why don't you play a rhythm game you just wanna press buttons on solo mode?
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>>577061063
still better than troon gear strive and heatmasher 8
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>>577060290
kamala is such a minx
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>>577061003
you misunderstand what fighting games are about. It's interaction between two players. Go play dmc if you wanna just lab and do stylish combos
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>>577061063
what game you supposedly play
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I really want that Iron Man outfit but don't want to buy a mystery bag season pass
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Who are Spider-Man's best partners?
Who are Blade's best partners?
Does Blade even have mix?
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>>577060290
give her a jp voice over the dub, thank me later. she goes LARIATO with her spin
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>>577061301
they keep making colors and costumes for granblue and strive purchasable at a later date, I'm sure you'll be able to get it later
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>>577061156
both those games have more neutral and interactions, so they are automatically better fighting games, maybe worse products but they get what the genre is about
>>577061284
neutral based games where you don't die in two touches and where you don't spend a big portion of the match not playing
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>>577061284
BBCF
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Our girl
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>>577061356
>spiderman
>blade
each other, also magik. and yeah blade has good ass mix, he is top tier.
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Please god tell me that PC patch actually did something
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Just tested with my bro who runs tekken 8 flawlesly and we still get the 8 frame delay
Fuck this shit man
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>>577061632
yeah i get 60 fps now even in matches
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>>577061356
I wouldn't say Blade himself has much mix but he's really good at setting it up for others.
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>>577061421
>doesn't actually mention any games just vagueposts "neutral based games" that he doesn't play
sybau post hours
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10m queue in vibranium
who cares now that the game works THE MM IS STILL FUCKED WHY THE FUCK WOULD I PLAY THIS WHEN I GET MATCHES IN FIGHTCADE FASTER
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>>577061632
The game runs perfectly now. Don’t fall for the capcuck disinfo campaign.
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>>577061632
Apparently fixed it for many, but not for me. Waiting for steam to respond to my refund.
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>>577061063
>No interactivity
Akshually the best tag games have more "interactions" than your typical 2D grounded fighter like SF. Especially SF6 -- that has so little interaction it's insane
>one sided combos
Literally every fighting game
>almost no neutral
lol, lmao

The only people who hate tag games are people who get filtered. Like you
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>>577061786
nigga there are like 50 vibranium players total
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>>577061779
sf6
ggst
avatar currently
all better than 2 touch tagslop with no neutral besides assist spam, long and BORING and REPETITIVE combos and nonexistent defensive mechanics cause it's all about offense and le HOYPE TODs
implying not letting your opponent play is a good thing
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>>577061786
just wait for people to come back after the first sale + cyclops release
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Mandem really said sf6 and avatar nahhhhh foh
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>>577062019
you 2 touch in all of those games lol
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>>577061786
There's like 73 total people in vibranium and above my nigga that's not a matchmaking problem that's a you get to a rank where there's barely any players problem
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>>577061960
enlighten me on the interactions when you cannot whiff punish cause everything can be made safe with assists, where you can use assists to cover multiple angles and blindspots in neutral, where you die in two touches, sometimes even just one with resource dumps, without even the justification of having multiple health bars like in other fightans. Where hitting assists do nothing and they have no cooldowns
>>577062220
wrong, well...maybe with azula
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>>577062279
why is everyone so fucking bad then i'm shit too
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>magik can install combo into lvl 3 for free
retarded ass game
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>>577062019
>still didn't post hours
>bitches about tokon being "2-touch" but is playing 3 games known for 2-touches
luhROAR
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>>577062301
>like in other fightans
meant to say like in other tag fighters

>>577062375
none of those games are two touches, strive now could be even 4 with how tame it has become
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nobody in FGG or SFG posts lobbies or challenges, you know these niggas don't play. THey don't even bother posting gameplay or matches either
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>>577061391
But I need to hear Jersey City style
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>strive is a 4 touch game, sf6 isn't a 2 touch game
so you're either a bronze shitter in these games you "play" or you're a lying fag. move on already retard
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nah bro, every poster in sfg is a hyper gameplay god, they just never indicate it when they post cus um
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Not sure how much of a difference the patch made (I've been playing the episodes just to try out different characters), but I just got in a couple of matches and they were mostly lag free.
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buff ms marvel and cap right now
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>>577062772
strive is not a 2 touch game
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>>577062772
They’ve nerfed Strive’s damage continuously over the years and it’s not uncommon at all in Strive now to need 3 clean touches to close out a round, depending on the matchup of course
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>>577062353
It's a new fighting game for marvel. you surprised most of the players suck shit and that some shitters(like yourself) managed to sneak into the top?
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>>577062772
>>577063012
plus burst, plus a myriad of defensive mechanics lie fd, ib, ibfd, yrc, deflect shield. Here in tokon you don't even have pushback, just a parry and a retardedly easy to punish alpha counter lmao
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>>577062772
They did actually touch strive's damage so it's more of a 3 touch, 4 touch game now.
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champion's assault assist is crazy good wtf
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>>577063368
I think all his assists are good
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>>577061632
It half fixed it for me. I have been extensively testing and I get 60 much more consistently now, but random drops to 59 still, just not as much as before. I also still get slowdown late-game (usually round 3-5) that will hit out of nowhere but go away quickly. CPU and GPU are are 30-50% utilization so it's clearly a bug. Before this was happening much more often.

Overall I'd say the game needs another patch or two to be ready on PC because even if you're lucky you still gotta deal with the unlucky players. I don't have a PS5 though so I'm just gonna have to wait to play online.
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That magik assist where she covers the screen with lava shooting out the ground can go fuck itself
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bro really typed "avatar" and hit post while talking about games with no 2 touch
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assists that move enemies are probably the ones you need to open up people.
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>>577061632
>Specs
>CPU : 5600x
>GPU : 5070 ti
>TSR + Best Quality
>1440p
Before the patch, my stats were :
FPS : 59
CPU usage : 90%
GPU usage : 30%

After the patch, my stats are :
FPS : 60
CPU usage : 72~76%
GPU usage : 53%

The game does run better
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>>577063892
learn to use flow buddy
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>play a game with actual interactions
>life sf6
What did he mean by this
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>>577025184
>ok so the game runs massively better for everyone including me but uhh it crashes sometimes the game is still broken, because I was defintiely making this page because of bugs and not the performance yeah that's it
we've officially hit the "shitting on the game is my personality" phase, huh?
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>>577062772
>strive is a 4 touch game
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I feel like ms marvel's kit would make sense if you could get literally anything off of her command grab, but you can't. it doesn't even give a hard knockdown.
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>>577061063
>when they disincentivize everything that's good with fighting games?
funny you say that, every fucking le grounded fighting game has the same retarded shit in some form
just look at SF, it's just neutral skip parade
if there's no assists to cover for moves then the games just make EVERYTHIIIIIIING safe on block
it literally doesn't matter, it's all slop
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>>577064305
A hard knockdown is a rare privilege in this game.
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>>577064305
Can anyone get anything off command grabs? I don't think anyone but Champion can even combo into them and even then he can only do it with his unique and not his forward special.
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>>577063980
https://x.com/Noskito_/status/2086174634269982970
flow this lmao
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>>577064517
no one, which is interesting. I assumed tag games would be degenerate enough to let you do that
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>>577061205
This makes me diamonds man.
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> /tokon/ - Tech Support & Pc Specs discussion General
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>sf6
>t8
>neutral
i can understand disliking tagslop but you have to be a truly colossal retard to suggest those games having any kind of meaningful neutral
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBjlKVnrjAQ

is clayton actually good at fightan or just lab monster? does he ever compete? iron man has some crazy shit. he did bunch of tech for dbfz early on too.
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>the fighting game I play is totally honest and only filled with honest interactions and skilled play
>the fighting game I suck at is dishonest and is a one player knowledge check
this is the motto of every egotistical scrub
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>>577064517
no, which makes it all the weirder that they gave a bunch of characters command grabs at all.
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>>577064742
Yeah but it's actually true for Street Fighter, it's the premiere fighting game for a reason.
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>>577064826
lol no, sf6 is not even remotely "honest"
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A permanent solution to the performance issue would just be to rip out all of the Sony DRM trash.
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>>577064826
LMAO
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>>577064713
is and has always been a lab monster. he understands fighting games on a fundamental level, its very impressive
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>>577064802
Ghost Rider can use it to decrease the Heat gauge, I guess...
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>>577064932
impossible
low trust in latest patch
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>>577064208
>posts a 4 years old clip
are you retarded or what?
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sorry but the game will be slop until they add assists cooldown in neutral, simple as
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>>577065313
feel like the assist spam is biggest issue and they have scam stuff for combos too that dont use up the assemble gauge (green bars at top, think thats name) with rejump stuff in combos. fact its so hard to punish assist spam is big issue too. its almost beneficial to get them out and let them get hit/eat the attack while you land yours when should be getting punished.
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>le schmovement mahvel is back babeee skillful game
>they run slower than in strive
?????
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>>577065190
You're the retard. Do I really have to show you some Pot vs Chipp/Millia?
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>>577065775
how about you show me ky and leo?
or is sf4 a 2 touch game because akuma has 900 health?
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>>577065775
please do. Show me some strive 2.00 clip where pot kills in two hits. Not stuff from 2021
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OH NO NO NO
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>>577066000
what a corn ball.
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>>577066385
you just know its some 3rd worlder
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>>577066385
I don't understand how these people exist
I would know I wouldn't be able to run the game and move on, there's no fucking "fix" for me if I had those specs, how do they function?
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>>577066385
>GTX 970
Jesus Christ. this nigga is stuck in 2015. that's a 12 year old GPU.
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>>577066619
I'd still be using my 970 had it not burst in flames
it ran everything I asked of it
if it ain't broken...
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The game is UNFIXABLE unless the DRM is OUT. It's exactly like Monster Hunter Wilds getting bogged down by its billion DRM implementations. If Tokon's DRM was removed overnight it would run on shitter pcs like Strive could.
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>>577066762
delusional
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>>577066762
wilds didn't run poorly because of drm
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>>577066762
Nah. It's UE5
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there are niggas going online having one single game with the 8f rollback and saying yup thats it the patch did nothing. what the fuck happened to everyones brain lmao
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why are stages so small? I get the wallbreak but once you reach the limit or in stages without them you corner carry the opponent in two hits and wallsplat combos are damaging af
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I like saying [Insert Number] touch
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anyone in bongistan dealt with this non-functional age verification humiliation ritual? shit just throws up errors every time it processes my picture
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>>577067007
I mean, have you checked their name
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>>577066762
THE MAJORITY OF STRIVES PLAYERBASE USES THE POTATO MOD BECAUSE THEYRE ALL POOR NIGGERS THAT CANT EVEN GET A LOW MID RANGE PC BY 2026 STANDARDS
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>>577066385
why does this nigga have a 3700x but a mfing rtx 970??
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>>577067007
>brown
>gay
>canadian

ya, this retard is why its bad. canadian walmart internet routed through chicago matching up with someone 20 mins across the border by car while he plays on wifi in some ant hill apartment with 40 other indians is why you have bad connections.
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this is a fucking dragon punch
it doesnt matter when i release the button, i pushed it on fucking 3, why does this game flip a coin and then give me a fireball
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>>577067007
I can't be the only one who thinks putting a fire emoji near the word "CPU" is funny as shit
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is it even possible to dash qcf without getting a dp motion or do i need to use the skill button
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>>577067353
does the same shit for your 100 meter super too.
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>>577067475
use the macro and don't press forward
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>>577064517
powered up champ can wallsplat you off his U throws if he lands them raw, 5U is only 8f so it's pretty fucking scary
>>577065119
GR's command grabs are good because he can sneak them in when you're expecting his other rekka options and it leaves them far away from you at perfect chain bullying range with advantage. ms marvel's is just kinda meh by comparison
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The fuck is going on with 22x inputs in this game? It's driving me crazy. I'm doing 5H 22x on Carnage and 90% of the time I just get 5HH or 5H 2H or it just drops the input. It's not timing. If I use quick skill it works perfectly. I'm on leverless so it's not an input issue either. Is this happening to anyone else?
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>>577067475
>>577067593
*dash macro
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>>577067650
you should seriously just be using quick skill for 22 inputs, its way too clunky otherwise
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the fuck is you rogs problem with pressing down twice? Do you all have cerebral palsy?
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>>577067650
in this game you time it like down, down+button instead of down, down, button
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>>577068045
>in this game you time it like down, down+button
that's how you do it in every game, what fucked up stuff are you playing where that's not the case?
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sisters...steamcharts didn't go up...patch useless..
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>>577066385
The average consumer who’s experiencing “performance issues”
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has anyone tried to unlock the preorder bonuses with cream api?
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Alright, finally.
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>>577068931
alright, see you then. assuming you won't be back here anymore.
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Played a bunch and ran into a 8 framer a d a WiFi faggot and had a miserable time. The other matches with no hiccups were great. Matchmaking time doesn't feel too bad but could be faster.
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>>577067824
I don't wanna. I want to input it manually.
>>577067932
It's easy as fuck I play leverless, 22 has never been an issue for me. It's just not working in this game even though training mode is registering the input just fine
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perfect 60 fps with 20% cpu usage and 40% gpu with my i7 12700k and a 3080 on best quality and 1440p
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>>577068854
borderline 3dpd and elicits a similar desire to vomit.
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>>577068931
buy avatar twice
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>>577068854
Ugly trannies finally found their black panther
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>>577069075
I won't be in a general for a game I refunded and barely played. Threads are full of schizo posters already, so I feel bad for those left.

>>577069245
Idk, probably won't.
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do you have to close the game for survival if youre saving or when you die can you just restart back in the menu
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They should put Professor X in this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGSjsyezFzk
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>>577069529
pause and quit if you're about to die
if you actually do die alt f4 immediately
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>>577070168
thanks breh
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>>577069749
I miss when comics looked like this
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>>577070412
Shut up Rob, nobody misses your "art".
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>>577069529
You do need to choose save and quit after you choose your soul after every boss and then continue.
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sitting at 60 most of the time now and while it feels very playable i still get the occasional dip into the mid 50s in some matches
worried that this is unfixable
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>>577072226
whens the last time you saw a capcom game get its performance fixed
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>>577072226
i only dip during wall breaks because of all the excess animation moving onto the next arena section. i assume thats normal?
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>>577064572
>highest damage character in the game against a 950 health character
Do you also post combos against Chipp or Akuma as examples for damage in those games?
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>>577072486
that 10% difference in total health doesn't drastically change anything about the game. sure you might ToD the low health character when you wouldn't ToD a normal health character, but it's not fundamentally changing whether a game is 2 or 3 touch
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>>577072832
Then why use the lowest-health character instead of a normal health character as an example when talking about whether the game is 2 or 3 touch? It just makes the point come across as disingenuous.
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>>577073226
he probably posted it because it's an edge case that's funny. what's actually disingenuous is your reply that pretends that 10% health difference actually makes a big difference
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>>577072226
I'm still playing it on console and crossplay has mostly been working fine except during some super animations, so I'm hoping its just those are too graphically intensive for some PCs to stay at 60 if they're running the game at high settings, though obviously I don't know what settings people are running it at.
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Fought against a Goblin for the first time. Fuck Norman Osbourne.
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keyboard warriors, what are your keybinds?
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>>577073667
TOTALLY BATTY
TOTALLY BATTY
EEYAH
TOTALLY BATTY
ONE OF MY FAVORITE MOVES
EEYAH
TOTALLY BATTY
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>>577074763
asd, spacebar for jump numpad for LMHUQS
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>>577072416
At the very least it shouldn't matter since the rollback spike will happen when there's no possibility for desync
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>>577072226
All this will forever bog down the performance, it is completely unfixable unless this tumor is ripped out.
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>you can spam screenshots to make the netcode shit itself
just like garbage ass tekken kek
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What happens to my elo if someone ragequits last round? Fucker was so dead
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>>577076207
Nothing
I ragequit on every rbf 8 niggy without any shame
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>>577076207
NYOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN ELOINOOOOOOO
SAVE ME AVENGEEEEEEERS
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>>577076354
>>577076401
lol alright good to know
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>>577076401
>SAVE ME AVENGEEEEEEERS
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I wanna play Ms Marvel but she just feels so awful and every character is a fucking mega gorilla it just seems impossible to get anything started.
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penis combos are so crazy why the fuck are all the corner ones making it so you take them to the other corner
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>>577064713
>>577064971
https://youtu.be/3s8FmucJXB8
Clayton is the one galaxy brain that proved he can play. Guy was considered top in every single game he played in while on his death bed when he was younger. You can't get much more legitimate than that. I still don't know why he doesn't flex more about his CVS2 record desu. To be considered one of the best, while playing his wack ass team, and refusing to RC is pretty legendary.
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so is it clayton or is this like, some weird in-joke where people pretend to like him? its been going on for years now, why don't they get bored
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>>577077096
>Guy was considered top
Really? I figured him for a bottom.
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>>577077045
You can do fucking mega hard super tight combos in this game but it's not worth it bro, pick something easy to get a 40k+ with a 50 meter super
>watch top Carnage player (besides Punk)
>"I wonder what combos he does"
>does the most basic shit
Maybe they'll optimize them in future and will be worthy learning but for now just learn something braindead
Even though, the most damaging combos I've seen it's usually just spamming a singular skill and looping it so I guess they're a bit easy too
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>>577077212
it's one gay autist who spams his videos across multiple threads
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>>577077212
It's the guy posting about himself in third person. He's a mentally unstable schizo, those types don't get bored, just go ask the Starcraft 2 general.
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>>577077212
Clayton is a resident schizo poster, kinda sad
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How does casual matchmaking work in this game? Does it pair based on rank, the SBMM/MMR rating, or is it completely random?
I'm trying to figure out if there's any way to smurf in this game.
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>>577073667
Vote norman osbourne
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>>577077045
Because her DP is retarded and that's about all she can really use in her combos
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>>577077353
it's fucking crazy how bad she is, you cant even assist during pendulum
everyone else can just mash random mediums and fireballs to nullify your unique too
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>>577077491
Who cares, just ragequit whenever you are about to lose if you want to game the elo system. Play for high quality matches and ignore everything else
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>>577077212
>>577077359
>>577077394
>>577077424
People are so afraid of Clayton it's funny af I swear. Just admit it the guy is based. Whats even better is every video he always talks about how he got lucky when he won. Obviously a humble brag but the guy is amazing lets be real here.
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>>577074909
AAAAAAAH AAAAHHHH!
>nice ride huh?
>COME TO DADDY
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>>577077212
hes shilling his own shit, just ignore him
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>>577078029
Clayton once again miles ahead of everyone else tech wise. Random schizos losing it. You think guys would know by now, there is no one that can compete with him when it comes to this stuff. We should be arguing about who is the second goat of tech, because the first will always be him.
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>>577077651
Use assist to cover you when you climb up to start the pendulum, swap and get your free high/low jump in mix up
I use carnage with her and he can fake them pretty easily because you can hold air H buttons and fake a lot of stuff
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>>577078213
okay then, who is the second goat of tech?
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>>577075907
most fighting games have that particular issue. tekken players are the one group that will abuse it every chance they get.
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kizzie's take on the new patch?
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>>577077676
Is there any sort of penalty for rage quitting in this game? Do they even give the quitter the loss?
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>>577078974
When is that guy going to lose weight already.
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why are people so schizo about clayton now? back in dbfz days people would just post his tech and move on but now there's some weird conspiracy theory about him being the one behind every post about him and no one actually talks about the combos. did beefing with roofiemonger buckbreak some people or something?
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>>577078974
He ate it.
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DBFZ's normals have made me expect every normal in Tokon to reach half screen for everyone when it's only a select few with such a privilege.
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>>577079283
ok, clayton
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>>577079443
? normals in tokon are like 10x the size of the average normal in dbfz. did you only play z broly or kid buu or something
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>>577079443
magik has those retarded dbfz full screen normals
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>>577079443
Ghost Rider has an insane j.2H but that's it
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>>577079786
Ghost Rider is a soft zoner anyway so really he should have even more giant normals instead of just his 2S, 2/5H and jH's.
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>>577078286
That's why im saying that probably has a debate, but Clayton is and will always be number 1. I don't know who is I would say is number 2.

>>577079283
Clayton living rent free as usual.
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>>577079528
In case you haven't played the game lately, they made every 5M and 2M travel fullscreen in the later patches.
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>>577080612
Yeah but if Clayton is the best, he's superior to somebody. I can name any random e-celeb and just be like "yeah he's the best". Someone is only the best if they're better that someone else. So who is clayton better than? Who are YOU comparing him to, that you know he's better than? You're not just dick riding some random guy for no reason right?
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I been bitching in this thread since release but I never want this game to die

I’m the worst kind
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>>577080805
no they didn't lol. there's a lot of bullshit fullscreen specials, but normals? not really. there's the odd forward advancing 5H like UI Goku's but most L and M normals in DBFZ are extremely stubby compared to tokon
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>>577081373
>most L and M normals in DBFZ are extremely stubby compared to tokon
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>>577081804
you're free to prove me wrong (one of the best 5Ms in the game btw)
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im pooing
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is it just me or are people downplaying hulk like crazy
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Slime would have saved tokon.
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>>577082061
Post a webm of Trunks 2M and if others agree that it's stubby compared to Tokon I will admit I was wrong.
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>>577082194
its nice dmg, but he cant land a hit. he cant do what storm, shuri, spiderman, etc do in neutral. they can also do a lot of dmg. in average play, ya, you can land a random hit into 70k+ off basically nothing or stomp some randoms in 2 touches, but at higher ranks he doesnt have what the better guys have.
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of course magneto is top tier in rivals and tokon
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>>577082383
>post a webm of an advancing normal that nobody else in the game has to prove a point about averages
it's tiring talking to people as dumb as you
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>>577082268
assist call then running in is the same thing
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>>577082538
he feels amazing to play in this ngl
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the more I play the more I think the game is pure shit
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>>577082662
you have to realize that neutral is jump back call assists and then the real neutral starts for 3 seconds until they're back from cooldown
you just can't press buttons in neutral if the opponent can call assist
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>>577082662
miserable habitual poo eating fuck lmao
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All magik players need to die in a house fire
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>>577082557
Several characters have similar advancing 5M/2Ms. Many of these moves were only given forward momentum later, making them look extremely janky since the animation was not designed to move forward. On average, M buttons are bigger than in Tokon. As for lights, I would say that they are roughly in the same ballbark but in DBFZ you can whiff-cancel your 5L giving it far more reach.
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>>577082764
what cooldown
assist got 90% invul for some reason
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>>577082538
how magnus? just spam projectiles?
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>>577083381
yes but his assists are also mega retarded
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>game gets fixed
>playerbase still dropping
fuck this shit. FUCK the faggot linux review bomb
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>>577083616
they might have fixed it, but the damage has already been done. real hard to come back from a bad launch
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What went wrong?
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>>577083754
yeah true no one plays cyberpunk 2077 anymore
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>>577083754
they should go dark and release a new version of the game. TOKON Assemble edition or some shit
the reputation of the game is ruined
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>>577083101
>Several characters have similar advancing 5M/2M
nowhere near the level of trunks' buffed 2m, you're out of your mind. the closest is kbuu's 2m/5m. specials going fullscreen and being projectile or totally invuln is what's really absurd about dbfz.

tokon normals are way more egregious. magik 5m and 2m are insane. carnage 5u is basically fullscreen. peni and hulk's normals are massive. and with tokon's hitstun any stray normal or assist hit can be easily confirmed into anything you want with 0 effort
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>finding games in under a minute now
>1/10 games still have the 8f rollback, but the others are completely fine
>cpu usage halved
damn they really did fix this shit, obviously not completely yet but for this to come out in 3 days is crazy
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What went wrong? Tokon was supposed to save the fgc.
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>>577083754
meanwhile in reality it has 1000+ entrants at ceo and is one of biggest fighting games in years. pc faggots and the anti-sony shill brigade over going discless (ironic since steam is digital steal your games for mean words already) is only reason people are even spouting this nonsense.
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>Linux reviewbomb
>Like 5 people worldwide actually use Linux OS to play videogames
>The rest are Steam 'eck users
who are these retards that play fighting games on steamdeck anyway? why are they everywhere. I'm so sick of every game having dedicated steamdeck complainers
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>>577083948
Just call it Ultimate Tokon.
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>>577083948
You sound like you are out of shape and not very knowledgeable about fighting games these days. Respectfully.
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snake eyez has to be the only guy i've seen playing champion
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StarLord is so much fun to play bros...
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>>577084056
>ironic since steam is digital steal your games for mean words already
You don't know how Steam works
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>>577083998
>carnage 5u is basically fullscreen
That's not a normal though.
>can be easily confirmed into anything you want with 0 effort
Not really a card you want to play when DBFZ has a system mechanic to convert any hit in any screen position into a combo without using an assist.
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remember when people said this game has no mix
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>>577084342
>>577084209
i specifically remember people saying star lord has 0 sauce at all and he's probably the sauciest character in this game lol
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>>577084276
>That's not a normal though.
now you're just being pedantic and disingenuous
>DBFZ has a system mechanic to convert any hit in any screen position into a combo without using an assist.
vanish costs meter, engages meter penalty, and scales the combo harder than if you started with a L

you can play this game if you want and you will lose. your knowledge on both of these games is lacking
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>>577084164
being a fat chud goes hand in hand with playing fighting games so that's a bit of an oxymoron
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Is the game fixed on PC?
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>>577083754
the only garbage game that keeps living is tekken because tekken fans love eating shit
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man i am surprised at how much work snake eyez is doing on champ
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>>577084603
5700 and 3080 here, set to low on 1440p and this shit is still dropping frames and microstuttering for me.
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>>577084603
im having the same experience as >>577084031
9/10 the games are fine. i think no matter what some people just have shitty PCs and tank the rollback
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>>577084882
don't set it to low, use the settings they give you. its weird but setting it to low uses more cpu for some reason
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Do you think this game needs pushblock y/n?
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>>577085085
it runs just as bad on the suggested settings, ive went through all of them ,tried changing numerous things, nothing stops this.
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>>577085194
Yes because all that shit Spiderman can do is too much
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>>577085194
I think it needs a combo breaker, cross-over should be usable in combos.
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>>577085221
if your computer has good specs this shouldn't be an issue, its something on your end at this point.
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>>577085194
Needs a better crossover that doesn't get immediately countered, strings can go on for 50 seconds
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>every theme made by sony is mid
>every theme made by arcsys is kino
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Sony, you've convinced me I should buy Tokon.
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>>577085384
every other game i play, including more graphically demanding ones than this is are fine. i don't have any random processes running in the background, there are no 400 tab chrome windows eating resources. its 100% just this game man.
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>>577084603
it's using about half as much of my CPU as before but I was already running at a stable 60 fps
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>>577085573
>Norichika literally did all the best ones
kek
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Man I love this game! Once I put my stepson to bed I have around 20 minutes a night to play. Hulk smash! Haha. Survival mode sure is tough though
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>>577085679
but everyone else with good specs is running it fine now, its on your end
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my parents are happily married, thats why I post on 4chan about video games
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>>577085646
that bra is padded af
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>>577085573
of course they hired 2 specific guys for the black/brown girls
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>>577085573
blade, starlord and storm are some of the best themes in the game U pleb
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>>577085646
If she was based she would've put the Playstation Ad thing on her boobs
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>>577085679
its STEAM
just run egs in the background, or better yet, refund on steam and purchase on egs
stop being a steamcuck
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>>577085767
i can open the steam page and find recent reviews and posts saying the opposite. kill yourself sony boot licker.
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>>577084603
slight improvement but not enough to call fixed
maybe 1/4 less people need to upgrade or buy ps5 now
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why is tim sweeney posting in this general?
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>>577085679
have you tried turning the steam overlay off
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>>577085959
i knew you were a sharty faggot. blow your brains out, it would make your parents happy
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>>577085921
why do you keep posting this lie? are you going to be our resident schizo?
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>>577086081
one of the first things i turned off
>>577086115
sharty???
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>>577085959
based
>>577086115
cringe
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im pooing
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>>577086237
damn, sorry anon. I really can't think of anything else, usually the #1 thing giving me performance drops is the fucking steam overlay
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I think they're gonna go the route of DBFZ's heavy special by making the green bar have options that use half a bar instead 1 full stock. I just don't know what options would be half a bar that would be good for the game
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>>577085767
I'm also having issues. It's easy to tell yourself this when you just straight up dismiss everyone telling you otherwise. The only other game I've ever been unable to run at 60 FPS is the newest Monster Hunter and that game was poorly optimized trash. I should be able to pull 60 FPS in this game yet it occasionally stutters down to 57-59 just like it did before the patch, even though it's not using my CPU to the fullest. It's just still fucked in some way anon. Why are you so defensive about this?
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>>577086583
what are your specs? what resolution? monster hunter wilds was poorly optimized but if you couldn't run it at 60fps no matter what you tried then you probably have a toaster.
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>>577086583
dragons dogma and wilds are the most recent cases of games just running terribly but you will still have idiots telling you that its on you.
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Earlier after the patch all the matches were flawless now all the laggy retards are out on their toasters and the matchmaking is even worse than before.
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>>577086845
I have a Ryzen 7 and 1080ti My computer is old but as I said, regardless of my specs, EVERY other game I've tried can run at 60 FPS on at least lower settings.
>what resolution?
This is the other things that tells me the game is still fucked, no matter what graphic setting I change, always 60 FPS with the stutters during gameplay. No changes make the fps go up or down. That should not be. If my CPU is truly too old it still makes 0 sense that the game would pull flawless 60 fps most of the time with 50 percent CPU usage and then stutter even with the resolution lowered. That doesn't make sense. Why would it not run better or worse with me changing the resolution? Because there's some dogshit optimization.
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>MHWilds
has intrusive DRM that nukes performance and everyone hates it
>Tokon
has intrusive DRM that nukes performance and dances on your grave with forced PSN meaning the online is beholden to Playstation servers not shitting itself, and everyone hates it
I'm seeing a common pattern here
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What's the best way to stagger/pressure into assists to extend pressure.

I heard you shouldn't be doing Normal > Normal > Normal > Rush Assist > Pressure as that can easily get you jabbed/checked out because those assists barely have any blockstun

but instead something like

Normal > Normal > Normal xx Call Assist > Normal (Assist Hits Here) xx Whatever Special (preferably something with a lot of blockstun/advantage) > Tag to the Assist > Extend Pressure

Calling the assists mid confirm string gives it enough time to "finish" and be available to tag to it and then you use your point characters own Special (which would have more blockstun/etc) to lockdown the opponent. Then you just tag friendly and extend however you want to condition the opponent.
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>>577087605
snoy special
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Genuinely arcsys needs to be banned from making pc games without a major western publisher acting with oversight. How can you not have a benchmark keeping out all the retards who can't even be bothered to check if their game lags before going online.
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>>577087530
Every time someone refuses to tell you what their actual CPU is you know their CPU is bad.
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>everybody pirating strive, granblue, etc are to blame for tokons drm
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>>577088027
I literally just said it in that post you fuckhead.
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>>577085573
I like the Jazz Part in Spider-Man's theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43ssWvBFt0Q
But seriously, Norichika Sato was putting in work!
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>>577080971
Clayton is better than EVERYONE tech wise. There is no one even close to Clayton. No one is even in the same galaxy as him.

He's like the real life spoiler of tech in fighting games, is there any game he has videos for that he is not top in terms of tech for? He's often years ahead of everyone else.
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>>577088830
remember to subscribe to his onlyfans too
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>>577087530
a ryzen 7 what? that's not the cpu that's the line of cpu.
>>577087605
mhwilds performance problems aren't from DRM. world didn't have the same enigma + denuvo combo wilds had and it still performed badly on PC. wilds is just a mess of incompetent engineering
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>>577088830
any tournament vods, i've never heard of him
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man I wanna make peni work but no one plays her, hook was the only guy but he dropped her and there arent a lot of tweets about her
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>>577089074
he doesn't play competitively he's some weird social outcast autist schizo freak. but he is actually strangely godly at figuring out weird combo tech/routing in these games. like half the combos that went on to be the basis for high level bnbs in dbfz were all shit found by clayton
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>>577088175
No you didn't lol you know what you did.
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>>577089218
be the change you want to see in this world, and become the peni resource yourself. embrace the lab monster within you
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>>577089218
She's really good in neutral imo. Her H web grab beats almost every projectile in the game
For pressure you'd better swap to a character with actual mix
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>>577089414
fuck no I can't lab for shit and I'm not that autistic
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>>577087530
>1080ti
>bitching about performance in games he doesn't even meet minimum spec for
Optimization in games is a serious problem these days, but if there's one thing I can't stand it's stupid fucking retards like you playing on TEN YEAR OLD HARDWARE expecting to run brand new releases. You are so retarded it's unreal.
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think i've finally got a good magneto bnb down, now i just need to figure out a cool active tag set up with cap
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>>577089557
I'm sure there's something grimey with her pendulum and using tag. Doing a blockstring like 5M 5H 214L assist 5H 623L/H hold left/right and tag in
You can also do the 5MMM autocombo on block and when she jumps in the air you tag out and block your airdash with Peni.
My problem with her is neutral, I need to get better assists or something
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>>577089218
This but for Ms. Marvel
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>>577089595
fun fact when magneto leaves the screen after an assist he starts floating, if you tag in you can do an instant air normal
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>>577089802
peni would probably benefit from a laser assist like iron man or doom
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>>577083754
>no mans sky
honestly fgc fans are fickle, but the truth is tokon is dying cause it's pretty mid capeslop
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>>577090325
No mans sky is dog shit now and people should have been arrested at launch
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>>577090325
no mans sky sucked ass and still sucks ass, absolutely polished turd of a game.
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>>577087530
Don't listen to them anon, they're retarded. If it was some hyperrealistic UE5 game then they'd be right to shit on you but its a fucking ANIME GAME. Unacceptable for this game to not run smoothly.
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feeling tempted to buy this game because champion looks like yujiro.
is it fun?
the only other fighting game i played was mk1, but the lack of crossplay made me lose interest.
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>>577079320
das gawdlike
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>>577091504
the game is super fucking fun imo, one of the most addicting fighters i've ever played
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WOW DOOD THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD FUCKING DO I MEAN COME ON MAN *snort*
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I don't usually play tag games and I can't seem to come to grips with the concept of having one character do some really plus move and then tagging into another to mix. I understand the concept but my hands seem to not want to do it.
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>>577092224
No, you don’t get a cross up .
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>>577025015
Brother just kept rematching. Also this was a cross play match so it seems like the PC patch helped with performance because these matches were smooth as silk. Not that my PC was struggling to play it before hand.
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>>577089270
>like half the combos that went on to be the basis for high level bnbs in dbfz
okay, demonstrate it then. Show the combos. Then show the comos being used in tournament play
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I hate this retarded champion fight in survival
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>>577093659
>Show the combos. Then show the comos being used in tournament play


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4sMWvJhqFE

Here is Clayton doing Teen Gohan bomb loops in the beta. Something that those players didn't start doing consistently until around Season 2 of the game.

>JAN 16, 2018

There you go.
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>>577090325
ignoring the technical issues the main thing holding the game back is really just the roster size T B H
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Im going FUKEN POO reading about CANRAGE
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>>577084603
It will never be fixed. Sony intentionally sabotaged the game. They are content to let it die.
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>>577092224
he's allowed to do this because he has a katana ok
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>>577089270
You just ignored the video earlier in the thread that showed years of him winning tournaments in every game he played?

lmfao at him being a social outcast schizo freak, the guy is the only one that seems to have a life outside of games.

https://youtu.be/X0VuPu9Ru7g

Guy is seemingly loved by everyone when you watch videos of him irl.
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>>577092224
This is a certified arcsys nigga classic.
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Do normals have priority over command throws in this game?
I'm trying to make a setup with Ms. Marvel so her Command Throw becomes active before my opponent can use a 5L (6 frames)
My current setup puts me +3 close to my opponent.
The command throw has a 9 frames startup.
If I press Command Throw at soon as possible and my opponent press 5L they should theoretically hit in the same frame, right? But every time I try my opponents hit a Counter 5L.

I'm going insane
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>>577089270
Clayton is a legit loon who is desperate for validation in the FGC. Really fucking sad.
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You know, even if you detest wallbreaks Arcsys in Strive and Tokon make some of the best stages in the genre and it's crazy how they have to make more than all the other devs to compensate the mechanic.

But i wouldn't be lying saying I prefer the stages with wall slumps. They really ought to disable wallbreaks on all stages if you have all 4 members active on your team.
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>>577093976
what you think is happening
>holy shit this guy is a genius, he came up with this combo before everyone else did it years later. nobody else even knew you could do this but him
what is actually happening
>people know about a combo from the start, but in a tournament setting they would much rather get a good grip on all the parts of the fighting game you need in order to land that first hit to do a cool combo first so they do very consistent and low mental stack easier combos at first and then optimize damage later
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>>577092224
looks like loki extends his hurtbox before the hitbox
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there's somebody controlling my cpus in survival nigga
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Chances of 2 million sales announcement a week after launch like Dragon Ball FighterZ?
Marvel is a bigger property than DBZ.
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>>577097123
It's me
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>>577096902
because supers don't wallbreak and a lot of characters can sideswitch and corner to corner easily enough I think it's fine. you just have to do a different combo sometimes to either go back to the solid corner or just avoid a wallbreak
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>>577097156
Tokon is declining faster than DNF Duel did
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>>577097304
Tokon is Concord
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>>577097384
concord didnt even get 1000 concurrent users
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>>577096927
>asks for proof
>is given proof
>actually that doesn't count and the proof doesn't matter anyways because of uh, uhm, uh, people knew this stuff anyways!
absolute nigger buffoon tier IQ on display here
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Do we have the lossless rips of the OST yet, brehs?
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>>577097529
>absolute nigger buffoon tier IQ on display here
then why do you come here
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>About to peak at half Helldivers numbers
I'm thinking we're back
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>>577097589
most people aren't that stupid
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>>577097529
you proved that this guy who definitely isn't you or someone you know was doing the combo in the beta, what you didn't prove is that nobody else knew about these back then so the idea that he "discovered" them remains to be proven
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Champion is so cool but not having follow-ups until the very last round (if you're lucky) sucks
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>>577097701
>you
not everyone on 4chan is one person you retarded newfaggot
if you weren't a zoomer retard newfag and played dbfz you'd know everyone was using clayton's tech for vegito blue in particular. you can go and watch old VoDs of bum's tournies and bum and the players would even shout him out for the ridiculous combo tech he found. every single player doing corner BnBs with vegito at a high level was doing some shit clayton found, except maybe wawa
>b-b-b-but you're clayton
shut up retard i don't give a fuck about him he can go die for all i care, i'm just an autist that can't stand aggressively retarded faggots like you
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>>577097701
Hey anon, if you really want to piss off this Clayton, just say Rooflemonger is better than him.
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What's with the rampant anti-clayton posting I never saw this in previous game generals
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you know the thread is full of newfriends when they let the thread be derailed by fucking clayton of all people
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Game runs perfectly on pc now. I just put a hard cap at 30fps and matches actually feel pretty good.
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>>577098097
They really just need to increase the level his gauge starts at each round. It makes no sense that his gauge resets back to level 1 at the start of each round instead of at least maintaining the level it was at. Level 1 should be the I went full bitch mode and ran away not the baseline.
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>>577098204
> you can go and watch old VoDs of bum's tournies and bum and the players would even shout him out for the ridiculous combo tech he found. every single player doing corner BnBs with vegito at a high level was doing some shit clayton found, except maybe wawa
ok then why not post this when you were asked to prove that this guy was the combo pioneer everyone copied in this post >>577093659. instead you just posted him doing a combo
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>>577098685
people just need to learn to ignore him, some autists are just persistent no-lifes who you can't bully out the old fashion way, doesn't matter how many times he samesfags just ignore the dumbfuck
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>>577098951
i am not >>577093976 you moron jesus fucking christ it's impossible to talk to you newfags i give up
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>>577098702
if you aren't trolling, stop that shit instantly. if you cant run the game at stable 60 fps don't run it at all.
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>>577099084
Room temperature iq
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It smells like summer in here bad.
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>>577098702
60 is divisible by 30 so its perfectly fine to run your game like this
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How does it feel Clayton, to be his bitch!
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>>577099451
Damn he lost weight. He's still ugly as fuck but he used to be way way fatter
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>>577099203
No one knows what this means anymore.
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>make them block a button
>do special into assist to be plus
Now what? How do I win from here?
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did anyone watch the creator tournament for tokons launch. the finals of that between the dood and dotodoya might be the best tokon set i've seen yet and its super interesting because one of them is fully using active tag stuff and the other is sticking to 1 character and using assists heavily instead so having both playstyles on display in a match like that was cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTFHJh5ux9A
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>>577100946
You sound like a scrub
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>>577100946
I wish I could play Wolverine, his normals feel stubby as fuck when I play him
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>>577100460
Most people right now are doing
>make them block, do string, end in button/special + assist for + frames
>on your point character restart blockstring, do special ASAP and active tag to the assist you just used
>you are now on character #2 and can do a high/low while character #1 locks them down
Rinse and repeat this over and over. There's some gimmick shit specific characters can do but it's all fake mix that will get shit on once people learn
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what do you get for finishing the level up challenges? is it just the badge? you get color from the 10 combos. doesnt seem like any reason to do them.
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>>577101659
easy defense learn to mash button or super
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>>577099451
Not digging the muttonchops.
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>>577091504
Are you aware they're adding Yujiro to Tekken8?
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>>577097384
that's 2xko
tokon also got nothing on cotw
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Assemble counter shouldn't beat grabs.
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>>577102395
CotW is the only fighting game in recent memory that I actively disliked
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I only play D-tier
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>>577103990
spinny spin spin
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>>577103697
It beats some supers too, not sure about all. No fuckin' clue what they were thinking with that mechanic.
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>>577102395
nobody plays cotw lol
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>theres a nigger skin Hulk
>no cute white skin Storm
This is it, as soon as there's a way to bypass EasyAnticheat protection i'm making a white Storm mod.
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>>577102395
2xko is killer instinct
Only difference between Concord and Tokon is Marvel is there to save the latter.
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>>577104181
yes
that's the point
are you illiterate?
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>>577104581
bro
2xko was 10 years in the making
2xko's dev team was almost 200 people
Riot bought a whole studio to make that game
we can't even begin to estimate how much money was spent on 2xko
Tokon has nothing in common with Concord besides Sony
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How long until this game goes on sale for at least 50% off on steam?
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i'm new to fighting games and i'm playing on a keyboard.
is it normal for beginners to completely swallow some inputs (kinda like swallowing words)? sometimes i'll do a dp input, but i'll do a fireball instead.
and the timing of some things like jump cancels, or the buffer to input another special during an animation is still a bit awkard to me.
combo trails are being kinda tuff, since i think my body just goes into mashing mode and i skip some inputs.
is this a normal newfag thing or is it over for me?
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>>577105037
sis
that one common denominator is all it took to lead to another fucked release
2xko is the slow cook fighting game of this generation and like KI, it isn't gonna reach a crazy height but it will stay.
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>>577105250
i hope soon since i bought the base edition, and want cyclops. games with hate like this go on sale quicker
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>>577105269
For keyboard set your buttons similar to a hitbox and then watch a short hitbox video on shortcuts/tricks. For example most people input dp as forward and then quarter circle forward.
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>>577105495
>2xko is the slow cook fighting game of this generation and like KI, it isn't gonna reach a crazy height but it will stay.
and other hilarious jokes
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>>577105269
Most keyboards have a low rollover limit.
What that means is when you press 3~4 keys at the same time, any more won't register, so if you're mashing or not doing the DP motion (assuming WASD for movement):

DSD + Punch (Front, Down, Front + Punch)
That's 3 or 4 buttons, if you press all that at the same time, or add 2 punches for a EX move then its over.
Keyboard or leverless are considering "cheating" because they don't need the diagonal inputs, you can simply type "dsd+U" and you did a DP, or sdsd+H for a double circle super
Thats why people use keyboards without ghosting or leverless which has no limits.
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>>577105739
>other hilarious jokes
such as Tokon's player count
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Anyone got the link to the Marvel Tokon survey?
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>>577105269
Yeah it's a normal thing, until you've done shit thousands of times to build up muscle memory for the specific motions and button sequences your hands are just going to do nonsense as often as not
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>>577106039
it has same player count as sf6, which allegedly has 7 million+ copies sold.
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>>577105495
lol riot called it a dead game. it's a matter of time, this isn't a capcom game.
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>>577105495
There is no bigger joy in my life than seeing the tranny supporter and GGxrd ruiner Pathflip being fired from the 2xko team, literally nothing in the universe that could happen would peak this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6WbL-9kpik
better than the actual theme
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>>577106039
And Riot leaking that 2XKO is dead
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>>577106039
What's 2xko's player count bud?
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>>577106274
>>577106309
>>577106450
>>577106554
>>577106758
Can't blame other games for Chokon's release
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>>577106939
cope and seethe
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>>577106087
How do you actually check the status of your hardware anyways? Windows Memory Diagnostics?
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>>577106087
This game only uses about 4gb of ram. wtf is he talking about.
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>>577106984
/tokon/
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>>577107097
You don't harm ram by using it, but by either power related issues damaging them or overheating on the motherboard
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>>577105847
>Most keyboards have a low rollover limit
i'm actually using a mechanical one, so it's just that my fingers are sperging out trying to do those combos fast. thanks.
i'll practice more.
>>577105709
i'll check it out, thanks.
>>577106209
thanks for the feedback.
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>>577107097
A game isn't going to kill your RAM anyways. He's a retard.
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>>577105847
I thought they were considered cheating because of no travel time and something to do with SOCD.
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>>577108002
pad as no travel time or socd cleaner
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Still have no clue who to main. If I played Chipp in Strive and Jamie in SF6 who would you recommend in this game?
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>>577108640
doom has teleport dash if want to do something wiht that. storm has some crazy movement options and can steal corner from people for mix up with wind, etc if want to lab bullshit setups/oki stuff. black panther has a lot of mobility and good offense too with her teleport dash. green goblin is getting a lot of tech as people explore him. you might enjoy the glider combos.
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bros i've fallen in love with cap. it took me a while to find a character that actually clicked
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>>577104395
Black hulk is a reference to an actual thing in the comic
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>>577109086
can he not hear smoke alarm chirps either?
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random bullshit keeps clipping my carnage moves
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>>577109308
Deadpool keeps countering you?
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>>577097701
>>577097589
>>577096927
>>577096782
You're not better than Clayton, if you were you wouldn't be searching his name on 4chan everyday god damn day whining about him.
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Magik feels like she’s playing a different game
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I hat 22 specials
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>>577107001
I use Speccy for temperature but I also know of specific software for specific parts: ie CrystalDiskInfo
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>>577108002
nah the leverless = cheating was just a retarded campaign ran by boomer fgc mongoloids like Aris
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>>577110191
421 needs to comeback in fighting games
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>>577110191
>good goblin combos require you to do them
i got filtered
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>>577110870
How about just fucking putting basic ass special inputs on the U button
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>>577110191
just use the easy button. the dmg reduction is negligible.
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>>577111317
True facts, I thought it would end up being necessary to do manuals for the level-up mission damage requirements but even the demo combos you can see after clearing them use the special button
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDpzOwFaO0w

menos been updating some early basic combo routes for most of cast. magneto just came out. like his since its video with notation visible at all times. its japanese, so few notations/text might be weird, but pretty simple to follow.
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If they put in fem Loki instead of male Loki this game wouldn't have died so quickly.
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>>577108640
I would say Wolverine is most analogous to Strive Chipp just for being a character with a fast dash speed who wants to get in your face and good pressure and mix, at least by this game's standards for what a character can get solo, once here's there.
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Tomorrow I will step into the darkside and learn bitchass Spider-Man. To defeat my greatest enemy, I must become him.
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when i do 2H, i usually do j.HMHMHH. seems to work for everyone i play. this is usually 7 hits if no multihitters. sometimes it just ends at 5 or 6 and knocks them to the ground. its not input error on the training room either. dont feel like im mashing or mistiming it. is there a trick to getting this consistent? what am i doing wrong?
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>>577114532
This is not the way, Norman
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>>577114537
you're probably hitting the combo scaling that forces your combo to end, check the bar under the hitcount
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>>577115005
>>577115005
>>577115005
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