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Caraboo waiting room edition.

>What is Morimens?
A Slay the Spire inspired card battle gacha featuring elements from the Cthulhu Mythos.

>Official Links
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3052450/Morimens/
https://x.com/morimensofcl

>Arc 2 Chapter 5 PV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLLf3DhYbws

>Ongoing Events (V2.5.3)
05/30 - 08/24 ○ Character Awakening: Saya
05/30 - 08/24 ○ Gameplay Event: Inverted Rebirth
07/27 - 08/24 ○ Character Awakening: Lotan Cetarchon
07/27 - 08/24 ○ Gameplay Event: Till the Cestus Falls
08/03 - 08/17 ○ Rerun Event: If Life Was As Usual
08/10 - 09/07 ○ Rerun Awakenings: Horla/Doresain/Mouchette
08/10 - 09/07 ○ Rerun Event: Before Spring Fades

>Upcoming Events (V2.6 & beyond)
TBA

>V2.6: TBA
>V2.7: 2026/11/16 (as of initially announced, TBC)

>Guides & Wikis
https://skeydb.com/database
https://morimens.huijiwiki.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TCU7LJRzqKeuvLe97y_TfGZ-j6jq5bZX6hskAAJ2mFQ/edit

>Forgotten Eve
>>576087316
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She'll save PCaro!
https://x.com/04sebastaee/status/2080495512894189713
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How do get a GDoll gf?
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>>577067434
Get a nerdy gf and buy her a whole collection of books about the end of the Universe.
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>>577067434
for me, it's Mosu
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Caraboo will be the girlfailure Morimens needed after all these scary evil women
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>>577062518
I remember gdoll boss being hard as fuck in HM at the time, before limited stat buffs, AAs, uncapped HP scaling, and other general powercreep.
Nef had 10x HP of her now.
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>>577068334
Agrippa's enough of a girlfailure for two games. She can't even make her own bed without having to call for help.
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>"I love fights and duels" the character
>not a single gameplay fight in her deepdive
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SHININGTORNADO
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why so many humans in traphase right now? I'm used to playing vs bots...
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It's always been humans, though?
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>>577073360
I have a whaled Mouchette in my friendlist. They have an actual 100% April covenant set as well. Very impressive.
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>>577076825
there is an option to turn off playing against bots, so how can it be when I didnt do it?
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>>577076421
The game thinks you are ready for the Big Leagues.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIHZxB21ik4
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>>577021598
thanks anon
and reposting in case someone missed it because it was towards the end of the thread

HYDJ-BZLA-LGMD
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>>577077269
Unlike other characters, the difference between whale Mouch and WHALE Mouch is pretty big. The very best one looks like picrel, becasue she gets just enough crit rate from dr scaling that she doesn't need April.
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>FOUR concurrent stamina spending events
what is wrong with these devs
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>>577082534
murphy divine white is my secret sauce, i will NOT accept it becoming metacringe
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>>577083065
Thanks
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>>577082534
Thanks Flares
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Lotan
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>>577083354
You can always buy more stamina ;)
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>>577066781
>>577067202
what bratty space god is this supposed to be and how do we correct it
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I'm about to get raped...
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1 year of Morimens today!
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>>577109987
Oops, this is what I meant.
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>>577110349
happy birthday Murphy!
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>>577110349
Come, join us in the out-of-touch land
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NO TABBY
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which one am I missing?
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>>577119973
cant see all in pic so idk
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>>577120921
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>>577067434
I can fix her...
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>>577121714
missing re-evolution which you get at the d-jewel store
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>>577106686
giwtwm
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>>577083065
ty i had indeed forgettened
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news soon!!
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>>577128963
You already know who it is.
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>>577122339
thx
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>>577071617
Yeah even in the story her fights are pretty lame and one-sided
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>>577067629
>Get a nerdy gf
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>>577133647
They really did her dirty compared to how important Gdoll is lorewise, I don't even know how much of that is due to cut content considering her deepdive was such a nothing burger.
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>>577132249
but not what she does
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>>577137380
She's probably a professional scammer
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>>577133821
It's easy, just grab a club, a van, and some shackles.
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Doresain has a passive buff that increases the teams str gain, right? so why isnt he played with Kath?
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>>577140437
He was, at first. But kath as better teams.
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>>577140437
clem has the same passive anyways
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Glotan kit aside, Divine Chaos is not only busted to all hell, it's FUN too. First turn Mouchette goes really really hard in Divine Chaos.
I want the next Divine Chaos unit now.
>>577140437
I think some people tried it but Clem exists and do the same thing but way better.
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Why Doresain is so ass anyway? First they "buffed" him changing how his kit interact with dupes, they didn't buff his horrible targeting but that's whatever. After that they buffed him with AA, changed AA effect to his normal passive and he is still ass. And after that Arachne came out and she is better executor and G-Lotan normal skill (big dick AOE attack) scales much better compare to his exalt (single target). Like what the fuck fellow has at this point?
>inb4 +12 Doresain can one tap the boss at 25% HP range (only after getting 9999999 STR and three corpses, aso rouse)
>SUPER FAST COUNTER TO TRASH MOBS (except every trash mob at high difficulty is FAT as fuck)
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>>577143998
>targeting(somewhat fixed with overflow damage)
>needs kills(not fixed, makes him awkward, p0n0s has the same issue)
>numbers(too low)
>no utility(could have made up for the above, but you can only get by on no utility if you have big numbers)
He is just under tuned.
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>this is a weak carry according to /mori/
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>>577145254
son..
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>>577145254
>his own wheel instead of kath's
See me after class.
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>>577146286
if you're using it you put kathwheel on pickman not dorestink.
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>>577145254
you should be a guide maker
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6 more days until I can finally clear DTide again
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>>577143998
a large part of his value is supposed to be the heal but the devs made healing pointless by just releasing a character that can 1 shot enemies without taking any damage
in a normal, balanced game Doresain would've been a well designed character but unfortunately we're not playing such a game
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>>577152193
interesting take, GLotan spaz who for sure plays the game.
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>>577152534
non-argument
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>>577152738
theres no argument. you've wailing nonsensically about game you dont play every few hours for the last two weeks. if you would deign to borrow a GLotan for fifteen minutes and play the game you might have some texture to your analysis beyond the single thought you seem to enjoy repeating over and over.
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>>577153081
So if I borrow a GLotan she won't one shot w5a5 trash fights on turn 1?
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>>577153235
maybe you should play the game and post your w5a5 clear, maybe then you'd be qualified to tell us how silly and boring and trivial it was.
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>>577153369
it's only boring and trivial if GLotan is on the team
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>>577153369
nta but gLotan absolutely oneshots every mob fight and 2-3 turns every single boss in a5 this dtide
you can make an argument that she kinda sucks at hard story mode because the boss gimmicks with multiple hp bars and fortify/fortress cuck her ability to oneshot them but that obviously just means you have to build around it specifically, the damage is still there
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>>577154532
i mean yes its a massive shill wave, I'm really not asking for much here, if someone is going to sperg about the character endlessly I'd like them to have a richer understanding than "1 shots trash waves" so I can read something else.
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>>577154754
but she did the same last dtide and will still do her thing next dtide
the only way to "not shill" her is to make all hallway fights harder for everyone else by giving them 500k hp with embers or fortress mechanics
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>>577155095
and our guy will still never clear a wave with GLotan
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>>577155408
why do you think I don't clear a5 dtide?
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>>577155603
are you Kaly?
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>>577155668
Kaly does 410-415 every dtide
and his GLotan gameplay was terrible so he probably doesn't even realize her 4 cost can 1shot waves
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>>577155815
exactly
thats /ourguy/
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czn more powercreep
am I doing it right?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBklFir0l7c
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There are currently 214 people with 425 score, I wonder how many of them are here.
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>>577162091
at least 2
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>>577162091
>>577162421
wave 6 when
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>>577153081
Take your meds.
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>>577163207
9 soulless meta teams
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>>577162091
Already reset my clears to fuck around
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>>577163505
playing shit that doesn't work together isn't soul desu
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Xu rerun when?
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>>577164586
More like wXu XD
Gonna take a while. I assume. Somewhere after Skipman re-run? At least anni should give selector. Probably.
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I WANNA KNOW WHAT LOVE IS
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>>577165370
Voices in your head
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>>577163207
everyone dicksucks thais but only one team here woud be improved by her
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>>577167396
tumnusbros...
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>Keeper just assassinates Archduke with no hesitation
That surprised me a little bit, but I still wish he had more spice to his character
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>>577167396
two teams, she should be a strict upgrade over Erica on the bird boys' team
so would Aigis actually
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>>577168265
i was disappointed by thaispollux but with OE i see your point (ofc sacred blood alone mogs erica as a concept)
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>>577167396
>>577168265
yeah i was using thais on a test sorel team but then kinda forgot about her
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>>577167396
>>577168265
Thais fits very naturally in poison team too, so that's 3 out of 3 Caro teams.
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>>577168881
I honestly don't think she does, Xu Lily Nymphea and Faint are all doing something important.
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>>577104754
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>>577169157
Faint is somewhat of an anti-w3 mechanic but I'll take Thais over her anywhere else, especially if you throw gdoll in the mix for maximum poison meta.
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>>577140437
Why would you do that when you can make a team with Horla and Clem instead?
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I'm too stupid to use Horla and Clem
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>>577171296
because Horla and Clem can carry a weaker dps than Kath
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>>577162091
Mosu sugoi!
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news!!
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>>577171296
clem is f tier
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>>577171721
dtide rework:
Hard
Recommended Level for Waves 1–5: 64/68/72/76/80. Training Points to clear: 60/70/80/90/100.
Rewards unlocked from 360–400 Training Points: Refined Gnosis Fragment ×25, Black Offering ×7500, Formless One's Gift Card ×50, Rose Scrip ×1,500,000.
Nightmare
Recommended Level for Waves 1–5: 82/84/86/88/90. Training Points to clear: 70/80/90/100/110.
Rewards unlocked from 410–450 Training Points: Refined Gnosis Fragment ×25, Silver ×1250. This is a brand-new reward compared to the previous version.
Madness
Recommended Level for Waves 1–5: 92/94/96/98/100. Training Points to clear: 80/90/100/110/120.
Rewards unlocked from 460–500 Training Points: Formless One's Invitation ×5. This is a brand-new reward compared to the previous version.
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>You can now use Emergency Gnosis to help you get through challenges in the Regional D-Effect Zone!
>Training Points earned from a clear achieved with Emergency Gnosis can only be used to claim rewards — they will not count toward the leaderboard.
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Kathbros... there's no way our girl is clearing madness 600...
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Score? 500
Gnosis used? 50
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>>577104754
Force-feeding and fatshaming. In that order.
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Light trying his hardest to make me play Traphase
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>>577172209
525 is the new 425
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Light is completely clueless.
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doresain sucks only clears are with AA
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>>577174123
recommended level 120 is completely retarded for 10 clears if the scaling works as it does right now
there's like 3 or 4 carries that can manage that level of HP inflation when whaled out, not to even mention surviving 3-4k hits every turn
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>>577172209
so they changed the scoring for these waves. two alert5 clears doesn't equal an alert6 clear. tough tough.
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>>577174524
I doubt the scaling will stay the same, or else you'll need like another 12 patches for people to start getting 525 without ecogs
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new hot commodity
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>>577174894
I think it's possible they tuned it so that 525 flat out isn't possible right now

the good news is light is easily bullied and this could ultimately lead to more buffs to weak dps
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>>577171716
that 24 clear looks impressive
I still have no idea how people are doing so well with her...
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>>577172209
>Rewards unlocked from 410–450 Training Points: Refined Gnosis Fragment ×25, Silver ×1250. This is a brand-new reward compared to the previous version.
>Silver ×1250
light hates casuals
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>>577172209
Mythag Cat ~ Light
The 400-point mark will end up roughly on par with before. Beyond that, each subsequent difficulty tier will currently increase enemy HP by around 2–3x, and enemy damage by roughly 20%–30%.
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>>577175454
I was wrong, shit about to go down next patch.
That being said, Light is 100% going to get bullied really hard and he probably will do something about it.
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>>577175621
holy shit fucking clueless cat
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Those 200 players scoring 425 every dtide are in charge of 90% of this game's revenue. They're the only ones allowed to speak on this matter.
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i just wanted Alert 6 without any additional rewards...
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>>577175750
i'm one of those and i've spent around 500e~ so the game must be in rough times
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>>577175851
Now you get Alert 7
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>>577175621
honestly I think a lot of players wanted this, myself included, current d-tide is flat out undertuned for soulforge 10 teams.


This though I hate because now it's mandatory content for full HSR rewards:
>>[Hectic Skybound Rail]
>>Hectic Skybound Rail is the closest thing to a true roguelike in our map design. Even though a full run takes quite a while to complete, we've seen many Keepers reach the max Train Upgrades level of 50 early on and tell us it wasn't quite satisfying enough — so we've decided it's time to expand this mode!
>>Train Upgrades
>>The max level is being raised from 50 to 100!
>>The added levels can grant up to Refined Gnosis Primer ×1, Silver ×2500, and Rose Scrip ×3,750,000.
>>Final Stage
>>On "Madness" difficulty only, completing the Stage 3 challenge unlocks an additional Final Stage.
>>This stage features only the final boss, Tawil — defeating her grants an additional VIP Points ×1500.
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I just redid my dtide teams for 10 teams and now I have to go back to 5 teams....
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wow, so generous thank........
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maybe the GLotan schizo was right all along...
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>point out that GLotan is objectively op
>get called a schizo for it
:(
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>>577176084
i wanted dtide update too but not this absurd
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>>577175604
>final tier has 9x the hp of a5
uhhh please tell me I'm reading this wrong
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GLOTAN IS SO BROKEN DEVS FORCED TO TRIPLE ENEMY HEALTH HAHAHAHA
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I still don't know what team would even survive the first fight of A5 with 9x HP and 2x Damage without DR and gaze. Especially if it's something absurd like Ch5 spiders.
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You now realize that GLotan was tuned for Madness D-tide. It all makes sense now.
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>>577176943
it's 6x
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i don't mind new tiers of difficulty but they should remove silver rewards from there. fomo will upset a3 casuals who just want the pulls and don't want to sit in light's 10 mil hp sweatchambers spamming gnosis
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Doresain's 30k exalts will be really helpful against those 500k hp trash mobs.
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well i hope you enjoyed the best endgame in gacha while it lasted.
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>>577173897
KINOphase stays winning
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>>577176403
free stamps
I don't see the issue
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>>576961586
Not going to say told you so but...
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>>577178260
you would rather 1000 stamps than 10 million scrip?
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>>577176672
being called a schizo is a praise
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>>577178994
uhhh you can technically turn those scripts into stamps too through steppenwolf/organic form
I'm sure someone will figure out what the optimal way to spend the badges is
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I don't think Glotan will be clearing madness anytime soon with these scaling
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>>577179513
GLotan+Saya should be a free madness clear for 1 wave
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>>577178920
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gLotan is the only unit who can breeze thru the new numbers, no other unit can pump out that much AOE turn 1 and 2
it's the rest of the roster that should be a worry
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>>577179964
everyone else will just have to push through with emergency gnosis spam
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>>577179686
For mobs maybe, I don't see her clearing the boss without some insane DR stat sticks. Especially one with 2/3 hp bars.
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>>577180920
well her exalt should hit much harder because the bosses are hitting harder
but overall madness is looking like a playground for people with +12s, the average player will stick to hard/nightmare and probably never touch madness
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>>577181614
they're hitting 30% harder per tier and have 3x as much hp per tier

maybe grok can help us with the math
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Mythag Cat ~ Light
This won't be a fixed, universally-true benchmark, since everyone's training level, team composition, luck, and counter-strategy can all vary. But we won't treat +4 or +12 as required content.
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>>577181614
I have three limited AAs and can confirm that almost none of the existing AAs will make a dent into a scaling that insane.
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>>577181836
her exalt is also going through a calculation getting multiplied by crit damage, final damage, exalt damage etc
why do you feel the need to be so smug all the time
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[Good News] Reddit loves the changes! The game is saved!
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>>577182179
the easiest way to do it is with extreme scaling on the player side, like sitting there with an invincible salvador team while you just build thousands of str for two dozen turns, or having a Vortice with a constantly growing white stance just scale forever. the issue is these teams will get gazed to oblivion and thats assuming they dont just instadie to mobs. as someone who remembers being underleveled for A5 the mobs were the much firmer cutoff than the bosses.
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>>577182320
>her exalt is also going through a calculation getting multiplied by crit damage, final damage, exalt damage etc
why do you feel the need to be so smug all the time
grok would have told you its still a 30% increase of damage at most unless you're OEing repeatedly
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how is kaly taking the news
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>>577182749
I knew that
was just testing you
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Lotan, Tawil, GDoll, the ONLY team that can clear madness (W3)
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>>577183662
Xu, Vortice, Saya
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>>577182632
The thing about that is that almost none of AAs or even newer units in general are capable of generating that much shielding. Castor was the last unit released who can consistently shields for a lot every single turns and he was released last year.
The powercreep for player's defense was really slow compared to damage.
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>>577183662
I feel like we will start seeing a lot more Tawil+Pandia fuckery on madness because that team tends to overkill by a lot on a5. Whenever counter is a viable option of course.
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>>577183145
fuck off flares
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>>577183892
I just realize it will be even more difficult to get last hits with Pontos...
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glotan might not be able to keep up with all that extra hp
but lotan can
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czn less stat inflation
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Why is Lily walking around with no shoes or underwear?
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>>577172209
Why are they doing this? There aren't that many 425 to begin with.
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>>577186054
as a 425 i asked for it for the past 2 surveys so you can blame me
tbf killing a5w5 without losing a single point of health is a complete joke, changes had to happen but they might've gone too far too fast, we'll see
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>>577186054
people, including CCs like Flares, unironically kept asking for more difficult content
also current a5 is too easy for whales so they get bored
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>>577186054
Whales are bored and stopped spending. Games need powercreep to keep whales spending.
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Wait, if there's no alert 1-2 then new players are kind of boned. Normal goes up to 350 which is alert 3 territory and can be kind of difficult for new accounts.
I mean this is endgame so it makes sense to delay people from getting into it but it might feel bad at first, especially for casuals.
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Adding a harder difficulty mode is not a sign of end of service (EOS). Games usually add tougher stages to keep strong players busy, offer new rewards, and test late-game gear. It is a normal part of how live games grow.
Why Hard Modes Are Added
Endgame content: Gives players with maxed-out teams a real test.
More rewards: Offers extra premium currency or upgrade materials.
Longevity: Keeps fans playing while the team builds the next main story chapter.
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>>577188228
thanks grok
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don't forget to roll Doresain so you can have an easier time on the higher difficulties
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>>577189936
you niggers wont be laughing at him anymore when GDoresain releases
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>>577190742
GTulu and GOgier will be our only male genesis units
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>be newfag, start during Arachne banner
>capping out around 380 in d-tide
>maxxing out silvers is about to need 450
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>>577195236
you can now use emergency gnosis in d-tide
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>>577195369
We will mock you for using emergency gnosis in d-tide.
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>>577195926
that's fine, you're mocking me already anyway
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Covenant Bonding
Covenant Bonding offers you a brand-new way to use Covenants: you gain more Mainstat bonuses, but the trade-off is that you lose the flexibility to swap them around. Whether you use it is entirely up to you!

You can bond a Covenant to an Awakener for free under Awakener Details – Covenant, raising that Covenant's Mainstat by an additional - 50% and upgrading it to Prismatic quality.
When building a Lineup, if a deployed Awakener has a bonded Covenant, that Awakener's bonded Covenant will be used automatically.
Bonded Covenants no longer appear under Inventory – Covenant and no longer take up storage space, but you can still Enhance and Transcribe them from the Awakener screen.
If you later need to remove a bonded Covenant from an Awakener, each piece costs Dissociation Inscription ×10 of the corresponding Covenant. It will lose the Mainstat bonus and revert to Gold quality.
Dismantling a Covenant no longer grants Remnants directly; it grants Dissociation Inscriptions instead. Dissociation Inscriptions can be converted into Remnants.
The point of this change is to give you an option that, in the long run, cuts down the complexity of adjusting Lineups and team comps — and to give the Covenants sold across the various stores a chance to matter again, so that earning all these currencies feels more meaningful and more motivating.
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>>577196350
have to give them props for these schizo mechanics, its what makes the game special.
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>>577196350
Thanks Light, very cool!
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>>577196350
I'd rather they increased the odds of hitting 8 on a substat with bonded covenants instead of increasing the main stat.
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so if I bond my life drain to clementine I cant use it on anyone else

and everyone will need their own lifedrain

yikes
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no news bros...the news keeps coming...
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>>577197198
yeah but you get some extra keyflare... which will barely do anything because of diminishing returns
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>The Covenants Steppenwolf and Organic Form are changed to unlimited exchange.
i will have the strongest Wanda
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>>577172209
Now I can't even clear d-tide...
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>>577172209
Why fix what isn't broken? Now they're just buttfucking the majority of the player base in favour of the 2% that could reasonably clear
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Next story chapter when?
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>>577201634
when caraboo comes out since she's the main awakener for it
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>>577066781
Thanks for the new bread.
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so what was that about
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>>577172209
I'm reserving judgement until I see how it's actually balanced.
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>>577197325
>which will barely do anything because of diminishing returns
Except when you put GLotan on the team!
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#LetLightCook
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>>577196350
I genuinely dislike this. One of the best parts of the game was that it let you shuffle around and reuse gear.
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>>577214474
>Whether you use it is entirely up to you!
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>>577217153
>whether you gimp yourself and lose 50% of your stats or not is up to you!
That's not really an option. At the very least you NEED to have a set locked to each DPS.
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>>577218357
>50%
i think it's just main stat
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>>577176403
>The Remembrance Quill in Sediment Exchange, Investigation Exchange, Lightless Exchange, and D-Jewel Exchange has its limit raised from 10 per week to 100 per month.
>Added Aetheric Shard to Investigation Exchange: Costs Investigation Badge ×40, limited to 120 purchases per month.
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>>577218357
Then keep your current ones as general use and make new ones for each dps, substats dont matter as much anymore since mainstat will be stronger so i think its a good option and something to work towards
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Guys, I think they'll try to change the game a bit too much once they release Arc 3...
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>>577238163
He is an idiot.
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>>577238163
he says right after releasing the biggest powercreep the game has ever seen
or that might've been GMurphy, not sure anymore
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>>577238163
i've grown tired of his vague and self contradictory machine translated pr talk
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>>577239274
it's not machine translated, he does speak english
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>>577239421
he explicitly said yesterday he mtls his responses because his grammar isnt good enough for complex messages or something
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I think the best thing that will come out of this will be all those whales and guide makers who are bad at the game getting exposed. Would be even funnier if Flares himself is no longer able of achieving the highest score or get tied for 1st place.
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>>577240835
who gives a shit
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>>577241157
sorry Kaly, im sure youll make it to 500 with another +12 limited
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>>577240835
What a strange thing to care about. It is perfectly okay that biav are introducing more questionable charges 50-60 days after their latest fuckup because it may expose people you yourself care about.

Screwed perspective of a worm.
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>>577241157
>>577241347
The fake 425ers are already entering full damage control mode...
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>>577241347
what was the last fuckup?
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>>577241347
If you dont care about leaderboards or max diff clears this change is largely irrelevant to you
Just ecog your way into max rewards and call it a day
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>>577241469
NTA but the Arachne patch had a lot of controversy surrounding ethereal cores and the introduction of AA.
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caraboo will save dtide
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Character buffs doko?
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>>577172209
NOOOOO MY FREE SILVER
Why are you hate me so much?
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>>577245274
still free with emergency gnosis spam
even though nightmare might still be a bit difficult but the silver from that is on top of what we've already been getting
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>>577245274
just gnosis your way through fights with x2 hp of a5 bwo, it'll be so fun
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>>577177586
Being able to do 10 runs at a lower difficulty for full rewards of the next difficult was a great concept and rewarded players who prefer rolling for a wide roster instead of investing into a few characters. Kind of sad that this will no longer be the case.
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Frauds with fake scores are finally getting exposed KEK!
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Last chance to post your legit 425 before dtide becomes a gnosis spam competition
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>>577247383
using a gnosis doesn't give you leaderboard score
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>>577247518
Not him but I'm still not a fan of being able to use e-gnosis in the endgame mode, makes it feel less serious.
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>>577248067
Some people wont clear madness even with +12s and 5 ecog
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>>577247383
Nah. I'm too lazy for that shit.
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stupid that my scores wont matter anymore because cheaters will use emergency gnosis to clear
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>>577248067
it changes how the game works and adds an extra resource
think of ecogs as a stronger DR that you get once per day and have to decide where to allocate
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ok seeing kaly play kath i understand why people call her a brick
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>>577187092
>Normal goes up to 350 which is alert 3 territory
false alarm, normal should be roughly alert 2 which is fair honestly
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>>577241469
Arachne's patch changed a lot and I think there was also something else with Saya.
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I was thinking about trying this game today, i like the art style.
Any tips?
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>>577252654
Early game is a joke now so you dont need much outside the typical gacha knowledge
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>>577248140
I don't think it is possible to do 525 right now with the current power level. There just aren't 10 S tier carry to do it.
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>>577252654
Welcome! Just roll for who you like and have fun.
In case you're new to gachas, don't spend Silver on the standard banners and you'll be fine.
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>>577253181
That's assuming it's not just the same difficulty renamed.
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>>577253559
Did you even read the changes, the whole point is to make it way harder
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>>577253559
>recommended level 100
yeah no, it's not just renamed
for comparison current w5a5 is level 79
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>>577253723
Recommended levels are all bullshit. I reserve judgment until I see the actual real numbers.
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>>577253808
Nigga light already confirmed 2-3x more hp per diff
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>>577253808
they are imprecise true but you can use them as a rule of thumb on roughly how difficult something is going to be
has anything in the game ever had recommended lvl 100 before?
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>>577254015
I don't think so, and you can't even whale to lv100 anyway.
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>>577254137
>does he know
new rewards are hinted a being materials for another +10 level cap
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>>577254003
I'm assuming nightmare is going to be 2-3x the hp of a5 and if madness is 2-3x the hp of nightmare then it should be 4-9x the hp of a5. That's a pretty insane amount of hp honestly.
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>>577254249
what? source?
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>>577254346
Hard to say since there's only 4 diffs now, light couldve (and probably) meant 2-3x from hard mode, which is roughly equivalent to a4 not a5
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>>577254452
flares said so
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>>577254491
hard w5 is rec lvl 80 which is higher than current w5a5
I mean we've already established that rec lvl doesn't necessarily mean much but I'd assume the devs would be consistent within the same game mode
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>>577254719 (me)
nvm I was looking at nightmare I'm completely wrong
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>>577254719
Yes but if we're going off of what light said, he also said their design benchmarks are e3 limited units, so if we believe that then it means the design team cleared madness with e3 units, which makes me think we wont see 18m hp bosses
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niggas still be trusting light
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not sure if I should still ask for GLotan nerfs in the survey or buffs for other characters
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Since its release, Traphase has accompanied all of you through many moments. It has been a great joy to see more and more Keepers playing and enjoying this mode.

However, after careful consideration, we've decided that Traphase will pause new content updates from now on and enter a state of balance maintenance. This wasn't an easy decision, but we believe it's a necessary one.

We deeply understand that the foundation Traphase is built on is "every choice matters." But with each new batch of cards added, the space of tactical combinations grows multiplicatively. The more content there is, the harder it becomes to ensure every choice remains clear and every match remains pure.

So rather than rushing to add more new cards, we'd like to first polish the game's core experience so that every card is worth your investment, and only then resume adding new content to Traphase.

For example, we're planning to add more detailed environment displays for Traphase, showing each card's recent popularity and win rate across different rank tiers, to help everyone better understand Traphase.
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>>577257530
just write for Light to kill himself if he seriously wants to implement these retarded changes
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>>577206305
>existing content
heh he never said anything about "new" content
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goodbye traphase patch notes
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>>577257806
Traphase bros don't look...
I'm assuming this means that they won't rush to add new awakeners as they release but they will still be added eventually.
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>>577257806
Tldr just balance patches and no new cards for now
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>>577257806
Bros, why are they cutting contents? Is this EoS sign?
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>>577257806
Still not touching Traphase.
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>>577258534
really suspicious how they suddenly want to start implementing tons of retarded changes the instant they switched publishers
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>>577258889
It's the same damn company, just a different branch.
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this will be the full rewards meta btw.
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>>577260383
big brain strat
not sure if double w5 on hard is going to be faster than a single nightmare with gnosis spam though
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>>577260383
I think there are better options than relying on lotan's 5% OE and gnosis to refill it.
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>>577261060
her OE is 15% so against a single phase enemy you'd need 6 at most
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>>577260383
You aren't doing Madness bro. Nightmare is 3x Hard and Madness is 3x Nightmare. It will likely be 9-10x the difficulty of the current a5w3 boss. You aren't gonna survive 3k hits per turn and somehow do 10 mil damage before running out of ecog
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>>577259020
Light did say the previous monetization scheme wasn't making enough profits and only keep them barely afloat. He said they will need to grow revenue because the debts are coming due and the previous investors weren't happy
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>>577260383
plan cancelled. niggerman is at it again.
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>>577262676
wtf is happening
also wtf is token of concord
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>>577262676
This is so retarded. The new silver is not taken from old rewards. We truly live under tyranny of the stupid
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>>577263054
this is what happens when discord trannies are the voice of the people
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>>577262823
a new system to squeeze the wafufags
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That's all cool and all. BUT where is the MAGGOT KIT?
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>>577263251
hey that's pretty cool
my only affinity 15 character is Ogier so I guess he'll be my first affinity 20 too
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>>577262676
>transcribe x100 to find best stats
I really hope this is what I think it is
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>>577264316
It won't. It really won't.
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>>577262676
Why are devs like this?
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>>577264316
it could be done a lot of different ways. they're not being clear about how it'll work. if I were implementing it I'd have it transcribe up to 100 times but stop if it hits any maxroll, but that doesn't sound like what it is.
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>>577262676
the funniest part is that people are still mad
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>>577265445
I mean that's how shit works, once they know you can be bullied into doing whatever they want it's blood in the water. It's been this way since the first time he caved.
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>>577264832
>stop if it hits any maxroll
if it works like that then having an upper cap is unnecessary
I'm hoping it's something more deterministic, like consume mats for 100 transcriptions but produce 3 random max rolls... or something along those lines
not sure what the devs are going to do though
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>>577267364
They are not playing their own game. That's waht.
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Tulu...won
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>>577268010
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i dont feel like doing pdive..
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No one wants to pissdive. Yet you must.
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>>577269658
it's fun
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can you add people in this game?
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>>577269992
i have enjoyed it in the past but it feels pointless to try when you're forced to play tawil gmurphy every reset if you want to score zzz
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>>577270494
The preferred Awakeners not doing anything for you?
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>>577270579
they're famously meaningless, you just pick 2 and then play tawil gmurphy anyway
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>>577270739
Should PissDives also have banned Awakeners as well?
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>>577265445
The harsh truth is communities or playerbases can't be developers. Somebody knowledgeable, sure but actually listening to retards en masse will only lead to failure.
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>>577271108
aka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_l3peaAqbk
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>>577270893
wouldn't ever happen, light said pdive is a backwater mode yesterday too
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>>577268371
JP has good taste
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>>577271108
>>577271224
not true. developers stuck in their own bubble often have no idea if the game is actually fun to play. they only view it through a theoretical lens and even if players arent good at voicing critique constructively, at least the overall discontent they express shows that there is something wrong
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I just spent 225 rolls getting Mouchette to E3 and for some reason I feel like I made a huge mistake
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>>577275190
those are the best 225 you'll ever spend in this game
she's easily the most valuable E3 character to have... well maybe top 2 after GLotan
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>>577275190
I like mine, she is comfy.
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>>577262676
No ecog for Dzone is based, good stuff rolling that back.
Honestly not sure I even agree with lowering the price of the affinity token thing because the whole point was supposed to be high affinity with an awakener being something special. But whatever.
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>>577277193
25k is still incredibly expensive
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>>577277460
Not really, past a point you have basically infinite scrips.
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>>577277870
which you will now start turning into stamps after they lift the limit on steppenwolf/organic form
depending on how the new x100 transcription works of course
oh and you can also only buy it once a month anyway
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>>577257806
I'm okay with this. In multiplayer games balance is important.
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>>577278842
but I wanted GTulu in traphase...
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I don't understand why people take issue with being able to ecog during d-tide. You aren't getting put on the leaderboard and are able to access mats you desperately need for uncapping levels. Don't know, just a weird sense of elitism over an imaginary leaderboard
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>>577279386
it was just a bad idea, it centralizes the entire endgame around gnosis economy. a setup where you're allowed one gnosis per floor but you lose spot on leaderboard would make more sense but planning your 14 gnoses out every rotation to max nightmare rewards is just dumb/bad and every single player would be doing it for max rewards. i wouldn't care if they enabled gnosis use for normal+hard mode but it gets really dumb in nightmare/madness and i'm glad it's gone.
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>>577279209
I want new stuff too for sure, but my thinking is like if they buff a shitty wheel and that wheel becomes viable, then it's kind of like getting a brand new wheel.
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>>577279386
fomo will force players to spend for ecogs then drop the game because they feel bad for doing so
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>>577257806
No, entering "balance maintenance mode" is not a sign of a game's End of Service (EoS). In online gaming contexts, "balance maintenance" refers to routine patches focused strictly on tweaking character, weapon, or economic tuning. It means developers are actively adjusting the meta rather than shutting the servers down.
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>41% like the gnosis usage in D-Tide according to the poll
It's over
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>>577279386
I don't like emergency gnosis because it pretty much auto wins the fight for you. It's so strong it feels like a cheat code.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d465H2264UQ
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>>577273708
Which only makes sense if the devs are actually not physically playing their own game. Which... I'll be honest, is not a position I would take up initially without being prompted.
The other intepretation that the devs concept of "fun" differs from those voicing dissent's idea of "fun"; is valid. Can't argue about that.
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>>577268371
>14 William
Playable one day
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>>577290004
His Core was never recovered in the main timeline. And he hasn't been met in Arc 2.
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>>577268371
murphybros...I don't feel so good...
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>>577268371
THE FUCKING TWINK IS NUMBER ONE
THE NIPPON SERVER IS INFESTED WITH CHILD FUCKERS
AGAIN
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>>577289497
>Flares think backtracking on ecog is bad
Based. My hero.
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>>577289497
Flares. Please stop reposting your bullshit here. It just looks desperate.
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>>577290295
>he hasnt been met in Arc 2
erm have you played chapter 3 or 4 or 5? hes pretty hard to miss.
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>>577292207
Even if he hasn't played those chapters yet, Paradise Veil shows up in HSR every other run. No idea how he wouldn't know he's in Arc 2.
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>>577290004
please Light...
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>>577268371
Based loli shota enjoyeers
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As a 425, I can say that Kaly's guide is terrible and will brick your account
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>>577293951
Some people would seethe
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I guess this is why the game will never go anywhere. If I were to guess old fags are mad because their new toy got canceled, Chinese players are mad at Light because he is once again bending the knee to western players and troons/twitter/discordfags are mad because this is the only thing they have going for them.
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>>577295215
only discord troons seem mad because they won't be able to strut and brag about their "max score" 425 which isn't even challenging once your soulforges are leveled. idk why anyone else is upset.
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>>577270169
yeah, post UID and people here will add you
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czn less backtracking kek
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>>577301947
Nun Exia is sexy...
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>>577265445
he only got his feedback from a bunch of literal discord trannies "content creator" of course they're still upset no matter what
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>>577268371
>salvador 5th
wow I guess Pontos's release wasn't random, JP does like sexy old men
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I know he'd caved and undo some/all of the changes, but that was fast.
The ecog thing was retarded anyway, glad that was gone. I would have quit long ago if I wasn't forced to interact game systems properly in dtide and just spam ecogs.
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can discord trannies get him to nerf fortress already? traphkings are suffering
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>>577306870
they did nerf the main source of it multiple times though (Wanda's wod)
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>>577306628
I liked the idea of emergency gnosis in d-zone. It lifts the pressure off of casuals while still allowing competitive people to compete. It would also let people with underdeveloped accounts tackle content way more difficult than they should by choosing where to use their strongest teams and where to spam gnosis.
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>>577312124
if i wanna be locked from rewards id rather be gated by my actual team strength rather than by how well i can abuse gnosis
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>>577312124
as someone who is a newer player and still cant even get a 400 clear, I don't like it. grinding for every reward I can possibly get, while slowly improving my score is something I really look forward every 2 weeks and I really enjoy it and get so much fun out of it.
having the option to use gnosis here would really reduce the satisfaction and fun.

but maybe thats just me and I'm more masochistic than the average gacha casual
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>>577312124
emergency gnosis ruins the new player experience and makes the game feel poorly balanced
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>>577314308
Does it matter? Be honest.
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>>577314308
Just like GLotan's entire existence!
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>>577292207
I am stuck on Chapter 1 of Arc 2. I have missed out on the shota >>577293951
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>>577314308
Egnosis was mandatory for me to complete Arc 1.
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>>577318654
you didnt beat the game
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I used egnosis to beat every madness level fight in Glotan's event
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Are there any other games that feature cosmic horror like Mori? Preferably not somethung like Termina and Bloodborne because I'm too big of a wuss for those 2
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>>577325103
czn (first 5 minutes only)
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>>577325103
Chaos Zero Nightmare got a story rewrite that is supposedly good.
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>>577325103
>Cradle of Nightmare : Flowers to you
on Steam. ChingChong only
>Depersonalization
also on Steam. Also made by ChingChongs.
Props on them for admitting and explaing their use of the robot slop-machine: Voicing 800,000 words and some non-essential Q&A with one chracter

If I had a quarter for every Chink-based studio I knew that made a game based on Lovecraft's mythos, I'd have a dollar. Which isn't much but it's strange its happened four times now.

CZN is generic gachaslop with a different coat of paint. I'd reccommend it if you play and spend money on at least 2 gacha games already and are looking for more. I wouldn't reccommend it if you're looking for a cosmic horror story.
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>>577328528
It's better than before but still mediocre at best which is disappointing since Koreans usually write decent stories
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>>577329706
>Koreans usually write decent stories
I thought Koreans were writing GameSystem IRL slop now? When did they return to actually writing stories?
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>>577331045
well they made Chrono Ark and Ruina which counts for a lot
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so they know traphase is a failure and are going to stop developing it. yet they're going to keep forcing us to play it?
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More like KINOphase.
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>>577329556
>on Steam. ChingChong only
It's about to be in english actually. There is also a MTL but there is a real TL coming officially soonish.
>>577325103
And since we are mentioning it I might as well mention Black Souls too, since Flowers is inspired by it.
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>>577325103
Fear and Hunger 1 and 2, to this day, these are hand down the best game at conveying cosmic horror as lovecraft imagined.

You'll probably not endure these games.
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saya no uta is better lovecraft than lovecraft ever wrote dont @ me
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>>577331045
Trickcal
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>>577342726
Lovecraft could never write a love story like Saya
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So is this game good, can you play with others, and finally is it pay 2 win? I am familiar with slay the spire 2.



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