Remember to always be wired>Steam pagehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3787240/MARVEL_Tkon_Fighting_Souls/>TEAM TRAILERS :>Unbreakable X-Men https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwe13-BKiwo>Amazing Guardianshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nwtrXnN0vY>Fighting Avengershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iab74kM-xA>Knights of Doomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4qG-wqhLc>Samurai Outridershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QGiaEkqYEE>Phoenix Cyclops revealhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GrMqmDi-SU>Opening intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSk3IMcgVQYPrevious Thread: >>577025015
most trans characters besides magik?
>no million unit announcementRip to the ten years of content
>be hulk>push quick skill button>smash puny tryhardsfun game.
>>577115598a bit obvious
This game needs a wifi filter so bad. Ever since the update my online games have been perfect outside of wifi niggers
How the FUCK is Chris good at every fighting game he touches?
>>577116768all good fighting game players got beat as children by one of if not both of their parents
https://x.com/ATLFunkyP/status/2086932997497045185
>>577116768once you know how to play, they are all the same.
>>577117267This is a special kind of autism though, he plays almost everything 2D at a tournament level.
modders got access to files but modding itself is still impossible, they found we'll get battle passes with costumes though none of the content is added yet
man hookganggod is no lifing this game lol
>>577115598That's the most cis female character ever
>>577118504>tranny delusions
>>577118035Any specific info on the costumes or what will be in the pass?
Best honest chat, is this game worth buying on pc?
they really gotta make it easier to block someone. if the match is sub 30ms and constantly spiking rollback frames i don't wanna have to exit training and matchmaking then go through 10 menus to block them
Rate my team.
>>577118935Current PC seems to be the worst version thoughfortunately for the time being
its so hard to beat retards who mash medium after a block string in this game compared to dbfz
all female characters have penises but it's your job to rank them by length
>>577115598Can't really beat mangik in that contest but like the other guy said, closest would be loki
>>577120507Tranny
>>577120080It's way worse than DBFZ too because that M autocombo into super can easily do half of your life and you don't have 3 healthbars to fall back on. Feels pretty lame to get 2 or 3 touched and lose to someone wildly mashing buttons while you're trying to learn a new matchup
>>577118935depends what PC you have
>>577118935The PC port seems to be "fixed" but I still wouldn't recommend it. I've been searching 4+ bar connections ranked + casual tonight and it legit takes me 10 minutes to find a match. And half of the people I run into have wifi so I naturally decline. You're probably better off avoiding it for now or getting it on PS5. If you want to play online that is
>>577121456>I've been searching 4+ bar connections ranked + casual tonight and it legit takes me 10 minutes to find a match.because everyone is in the cool open lobby dumbass, queing for ranked is for when you want to lab and don't mind the wait
>>577121785The game has been playable online for not even a whole day of course I want to lab nigger
How come Carnage's parasite bomb sometimes launches my opponent straight up in the air instead of back to me?
Top 5 cancer: Magik, Spooderman, Shuri, Blade, HulkBottom 5 poopoodoodoo: Ms. Marvel, Danger, Penis, Green Gobbo (training arc)Accurate?
struggling to open people up with carnage. his neutral would be really good if not for the giant hurtboxes, but the armored overhead is way more ass than you'd think. 5u > u + assist is his only mixup option but all he can do is jM/jH or land and 2L you. he has the most milquetoast nothingburger mix in a game full of mega degen mix
>>577122230I wish I knewYou can also sometimes combo off of j.U into j.236H raw but sometimes you need the explosion
>>577122376are you saying green goblin is trash? he's probably the best character in the game at this moment
>>577124769he's saying someone learning gobbo day 1 is probably not going to do well
>>577123419236H will pull them if you hit them with just the tip, Parasite bomb just adds more damage as far as I'm aware.
>>577118504Me when I'm fucking wrong lmao
>>577120918so magik is biologically female? TRUE!
>>577118485Holy shit he's huge now. Wtf happened?
>>577127725Why are you transphobic? Why can't you let us have things? Nigger
>>577128451he drinks a fuckton
Why am I getting my ass beatin Bronze 2?Isn't this supposed to be the no-brain casual rank?
ok
>>577131072i hate loki so much his fireball is too retarded
Did the update actually fix anything for PCfags? I ran the beta just fine but I know that if it runs like shit on opponent's PC you're fucked anyhow.
Dam everyone's doing Clayton combos again.
>>577120929You just have to learn the autocombo block strings for every character.
>>577131747Yeah if you have a good rig it runs fine and it's not left by chance now.
>>577131747They unironically fixed the CPU usage. No more stutters or fps drops for me. I was running the game on DLLS performance. Now it's on native
I wonder if it's too late for the game even though the fix was only 4 days after launch. The hype seems dead.
>>577132898It could've been bigger on launch for sure.But to make an example, SF6's biggest peaks were after release. So it can still gain a fanbase over time.I think CEO/EVO might do that if they have very cool finals. I hope they won't be just metafags metafagging and someone with some weird ass team shows up.
>>577132898It's the second or third biggest game at CEO this weekend.I'm waiting on Thor to buy though.
>>577132985It's two weeks after launch so it's gonna be probably Magik leading every team.
>>577132898I don't know what they did but it helped a lot. Yet you might wonder why they couldn't postpone PC version for like two weeks, or run another beta ...I'm not sure if the game can even recover on PC after this disaster.
>>577132898nice and totally sincere post, bro.
>>577133970Did that post huwt youw feewings?
You did finish all 5 missions for your main without looking up combos right?
>>577134628Yes, please delete it.
>>577133970It was, I want the game to do well
>>577135112NO!
>>577132898games have bounced back from way worse and longer periods of being fucked up then 1 weekend where the pc version didn't run great for most people
>>577136679Yeah but this is a fighter where a bunch of Capcom employees were already spreading a lot of misinformation about the game.
>>577136594I will be reporting this to the mods of this sub. Expect a ban.
Would it really have been so bad for them to do something to the team panel when you're unable to call an assist?
>>577128601niggers can't let a proud white man like magik have anything
So is the PC playerbase just irreversibly fucked?
Robbie should have had an actual visual indicator on his model for how hot he is instead of needing to look at the gauge in the corner. Like the amount of fire he has should increase each level.
>>577138079Why don't fighting games just put all the information on top of the screen like Granblue does? What's up with FG players and supporting retarded decisions, why do I have to look in two different places for info
Just realised that you can backroll in the corner, which doesn't change your position but is a different wake up timing to hard oki even harder.
>>577132898I genuinely think the whole >this game has no sauce Did more damage to the game in the long run than the PC port being fucked. People saw the Strive wallbreaks and player beta 1 and were determined to denounce the game as a fisher price tag fighter. People fucking hate strive man, mind broken an entire generation.
>>577139741The wallbreaks are aggressive wastes of time. I've warmed up to the game but I still think the entire assist system is too obtuse.
Automated Peni oki, after you 236M U you neutral jump neutral dash button so it catches all techs and if you're too afraid of instant 2H on wakeup you can either j22M but you don't get anything if it hits just a knockdown or you can delay your normal a bit to block it. Depending on the gadget you get it's gonna hit them after you block 2H so they can't OS and get their turn back.When you land you can do whatever blockstring you want, 5HHH autocombo since it ends on 236M, basic 5M2M5H236L, go for a risky pendulum then high/low. You can also just combo after 236M and not go for oki with 2H j214M 2H 623M hold up jM jc jM jH j214L/j2H assist etc
dead shit game
>>577140616>but enough about 2xko
>>577139878Just make them even faster. I only find them annoying when I get cornered and back throw them, feels heavy and long. Sometimes it happens multiple times in a row. But when I do a regular BnB wallbreak combo not so much.
>>577138654they should just let you move the ui however you please but modular uis are a mystery to fighting game developers despite being a thing since the fuckin 90s for videogames
>>577118935You can have a NASA computer and you won't find a match in 15-20 minutes.
>>577142740you can also have no problems and get games in 30 seconds
Always scared that shitty fighting game devs keep creating the same problems every game. Why can't I block laggy people after the match why do I have to go to the main menu
>>577142628>they should just let you move the ui however you pleaseThey can't do that for tournament reasons
Why can't black women IRL be as hot as the ones in fighting games
Fighting games can't just not tell people when they're lagging out the game for other people why do they think that's okay. The game goes to 6f rollback whenever a special happens but you don't want to ever do anything with this information?
>>577143104Because Japan has no laggy people so they never think it's a problem, and even if they did have them they would consider it too rude to block them.
GODS SPEAK OUT THE HEART
>>577143397>Because Japan has no laggy peopleLmao, watch some SF5 Japan netplay tourneys. The country has better-than-average internet infrastructure, but there's still tons of laggy mfs there, especially now that the PC version has such high requirements and runs like dogshit.
Half the games today have been 8f. It's genuinely worse than it was prepatch because all the potato mod faggots are trying to play now where before only people who could run the game were online.
im so close to dropping this game because of 2H and magiki havent seen a more braindead char than magik in a while
>>577144778It's a braindead game why wouldn't it have braindead characters.
>>577118935>is this game worth buying on pc?Considering how bad the pc port is? Might as well be a PlayStation exclusive.
After playing a few fighting games, I've determined the one I like the most is SF6. That being said, I hate SF6 and it's garbage so I've determined this entire genre is garbage.
>>577145314When shill Max uninstalls Tokon, you know it can not be goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MScEP1rJZdA
>>577145579>capcuck uninstalls pc version and immediatley buys ps5 versiondoubled the sales.
i'm going to be so surprised if ceo top 8 isn't going to have a magik in all teams
This has to be the worst balance I've seen in a recent fighting game which is impressive when the cast is so homogenized
>>577146075depends who goes, but there are a lot of top players that dont use her at all.
Can someone explain to me how "neutral" works in Tokon? I honestly have no idea what I'm seeing when i watch gameplay.
>>577134775I don’t know how I’m supposed to get that many debris in with magneto
>>577146530spam your assists and mash until something hits or you get hit.
>>577146530Assists have minimal cooldown so they’re very spammable. Force your opponent to block something and go in. Defensive mechanics are doo doo so keep moving
>>577146530the floor is lava and spam assists until one lands then run your character's gimmick
>>577146660>>577146704>>577146837Not going to lie, that doesn't sounds very fun on paper. How is it in the actual game?
>>577147709even worse than it sounds
>>577147709its same as any other fighting game. assists are basically a special move. you use them to control space like you would a fire ball or any other move.
>>577147709With a bit of exaggeration that's generally what people are going for right now. Assists like all hits lead into 50%+ damage combos if you can pick up from them, they have low cooldowns and the reward from hitting them out on start up is very low assuming you don't also catch the point character, hence the constant jumping to keep safe. Maybe it'll settle down but I don't see how. They either need to greatly increase the cooldown or put a cost on them.
https://x.com/UriParadise_/status/2087034873869476119 cant get it to convert to webm small enough that isnt pixelated as shit. bboomer. but looks like spidey storm going to be a problem.
>>577147996>13 secondsyou didn't even try
>>577148065i did. the mp4 download becomes 1.24mb, but every webm converter makes it like 5 to 7mb. what do you use to convert?
>>577146284First fighting game?
>>577148249baka desu senpai
>>577148249just use ffmpeg by itself
>>577131747If you still can't run it then your PC doesn't meet the minimum specs and it's on you.Unfortunately a lot of entitled third world faggots are still going to try to play the game on laptops from 2015
>>577148653I didn't know j6H was a mid
>>577148842Lots of potential fun air normals are actually mids and not overheads. Only j2H and probably jM is universally an overhead.
>>577148951>j2Hhaha....
>>577149893well there we go lol, they really worked hard to make sure you don't have to think while blocking
>>577150008At least until Spiderman runs up on you and starts canceling his greed sever into stun dipper
>>577150008She isn't allowed to have overhead j2H because it's the only move that can hit the opponent during the start of hoverdash. Instead she gets overhead j6H which will whiff.
>>577131747I am super above the minimum specs and it's still fucked even after the monday patch.
Stop asking if the port is fixed. It is intentionally sabotaged in a failed and spiteful attempt by a console company to redirect players to their console ecosystem. Either acknowledge and accept that Tokon is tarnished and declining as an awful product or move on.
>>577151927why are you even here
Deadpool reverse TOD goes crazy
I'm sorry Ms Marvel I am not strong enough
>>577152947DON'T GIVE UP KAMALABRO WE ARE THIS CLOSE TO FIND THE SECRET TECH THAT WILL MAKE HER TOP TIER
>>577152912Demoralization tactics to try to swing people into playing their kusoge instead
>>577148653>>577148718thanks. took some work to figure out. ive just been using the online converters up to this point. took a few tries to figure out. was taking forever to convert and had to switch to vp8 on my shit laptop. shitty hulk combo for test.
>got too cocky and didn't quit out at one hit from death against stage 70 goblin cus he was also one hit and lost the run
>>577153842grey webm for grey hulk
>forward assists are crazy fullscreen lasers and all kinds of useful stuff for active tagging and combos>backward assists are game state changing bullshit>down assists are awful anti airs that are nearly impossible to get a combo from even if they hitwhuh
>>577153981The ones that are angled projectiles are pretty good
>>577153842Something wrong with your recording to make it all washed out, and normally dropping the res is the best way to save on space. 480/540p webms are fine and are usually clear enough even at lower bitrates. Once you have a saved ffmpeg script it's easy to quickly tweak stuff and learn how it all works. I guess you can just ask AI to do it as well.
>>577153945>>577154170the ps5 share gave me it looking like that. not sure why it came out so washed out. but the conversion didnt do it.
>I could be practicing actual optimization and useful tech>but what if I spent hours doing completely pointless combos to see if I can insteadSometimes I just need to know how many times I can do the same special in a combo
what's the deal with the little assist wall-kick thing that people do after wallsplatting in the air? looks like it doesn't cost an assist and they are already wallsplat so whats the deal
>>577154746it's when you get a wallsplat when you haven't unlocked all the assists
>>577154292Turn off HDR.
>have to do regular pressure>then call an assist>then tag to it before using a skillso many buttons to press bweh...
>>577155360Not to mention how the game fights you calling assist at every turn
>>577153148>>577155360sex sex sex sex
>>577154906ooooh
>>5771553603 buttons wow so hard.
https://x.com/ReignOfPride/status/2087007931476656212all the bounce went into her thighs
>>577156016>pressure buttons so doing your L-M-H string>then the motion to use the skill>then the assist button in the middle (with the correct character so directional input)>then the tag buttonthis is literally every button on my controller except the dash macro and unique ones
how the fuck do i do anything online?i always lose neutral and keep dying.t. newfag that just got gobsmashed 3 times in a row by green goblin
>>577157179early game - you gotta learnlate game - spam every assist on cooldown
>>577157179That's just how it is in this hell of a genreYou just got to learn with experience how to navigate the neutral. Get a feel of what is punishable and what it is not etc
So, for color 8, do I have to complete every character's combo trial, or do I just have to complete one to get every color?
>>577157887You have to do all 10 of a characters regular combo trials to unlock their color individually, thankfully you don't have to do the level-up trials.
https://www.twitch.tv/eduardo_hookhook vs punk doe?
>button that does nothing
>trying out Iron Man's combo trials because I like how he looks in this game>easy>get to last trial>can't do the jump cancel > air M > air 6H > air 3H(hold) for the life of meI think I'm retarded
>>577154149who has this other than doom?
>>577159395Black Panther I think?
>>577159138If it makes you feel any better, I'm also retarded with combs; you just got to keep on trying, and it'll come out eventually
>>577159138I've probably put an hour into the last Peni trial myself, I just can't get jM jc j6H at all and you can't cheese it with jH j6H since they'll bounce too high for the j6H to connect.
>>577160279Yeah, whoever thought to put j.c -> j6H into several of the combo trials with this dogshit input interpreter deserves to be fired from a cannon into the sun.
caps corner oki with the verticaal shield toss is so cool but man am i having trouble doing it https://x.com/NurseLee_/status/2085812490362122299
>>577161559most of them you can auto jump. anything into 2H > j.6H you just push 6H. do not jump/hold up or anything. youll automatically jump up. can do j.H or j.2H or whatever you need for the combo. some are only able to be done with the auto jump. some hulk 22M > 5M > 2H > air parts wont connect if you manual jump if too far away with the 22M, but the auto jump will just basically teleport you up to them and let you continue.
>>577162375Yeah I know about the auto-jump, I was specifically talking about combo trials where you have to do stuff like 5H -> j6H or jM jc j6H as the other anon mentioned.
emergency ms marvel buffs when?
>>577162930they should give her a 3/4's screen command grab.
>>577162930only buff that can fix her. blond girls always top tier.
game is alright but im dropping it because i got 2 matches in 40 mins, great matchmaking arcsys
>set a tornado and just leave it there without moving it>watch opponent run into itWelcome back Grimnir
im pooing
>shit input reading basically means you have to use the skill buttonh8 modern fighting games
>>577153880Survival mode is a humiliation ritual, I can't believe they recycled it from granblue again
MM will literally never be fixed because all streamers just play between each other/viewers and everyone is crying about performance instead which got fixed
>>577165397MM will never be fixed because Arcsys doesn't believe in it and wants people to use the lobbies
Games fun. Its just fun to play training mode and online. Fun is all I can describe it. Its just fun ok. Fuck off faggots
Hulk Doom Canraj and I dont give an FUCK thats my team haha
>>577165397hol up you talking matchmaking or ms marvel?
>>577167839Matchmaking
>>577148805>entitled third world faggotsthese are ps5 playersthe pc players on 2015 laptops are old niggers and puerto ricans in NYC.>papi, I love mahvel
Anyone got any tips? Just for life in general?
>>577165397>MM will literally never be fixed because all streamersI mean it's a casual fighting game for casual players and their casual audiences. No need to have a good ranked mode when Sony and Arcsys aren't supporting a tournament scene. They'd rather throw money at tits and hope that compels you buy the game. They know they've already lost the 13 year olds that want a competitive game to Slime Fighter 6.
https://youtu.be/RHSfMhhreCMThe goat
I think cross-over is kind of silly. If they are doing some sick setup/pressure on you, you just cross-over, and even if they perfect parry you, you still get out of the setup and it only causes a soft knockdown, and they lose one of their assist bars for extending their pressure. And while getting disassembled is bad, you can't use your assists in blockstun anyway outside of cross-over, so you don't really lose much, it's better to be in neutral without assists than to be in permanent blockstun with assists you can't use. Feels like it nullifies any sort of setup that needs blockstun to set up.
okay for real, what layout do you use for fight stick? Nothing I've tried feels comfortable
>>577169085the one that refunds the game
>>577169085this default one right now, but I'm considering putting something else on the top right button because I dash by pressing L+M anywaymaybe U or A, but I have to figure out which buttons sometimes need to be pressed together
>>577169542that kind of makes sense. My brain really wants U to be in the LK slot but that makes sense to do crossover shit. Thanks man.
>>577168789thanks clayton
>>577169085Use it as a suppository my man
>>577169085I play leverless, but no extra buttons. My layout isL M QS TA HS U QDI don't really use QD at all though, I only have it bound because there are theoretical use cases for it like the safejump OS.
>>577170087Wow thats pretty similar to the one I was trying initially. I like weirdo arcs like that since I'm used to KOF.
>>577151068Same..I hope Arcsys doesn't think the fix is enough and they are still working on it.
spiderman was way cooler in marvel 3
MvC is garbage
So why is Ghost Rider allowed to put you in a free 50/50 for almost fullscreen? 3/4 of the characters in this game have no mix but this mf gets real high low for free
>>577167839mother's milk
>>577171798Because you can do the armored overhead move or mash super in between
>>577171798Same reason Spiderman can cancel the first hit of his overhead 5HH into his 214H low, balance was an afterthought
>>577172047you can't do that during his rekka dumbass
why are there no matches for casual? am i doing something wrong? is region reason? do i need to pick east coast us? something specific?
>>577171693umvc3 is the greatest fighting game ever. the tournament clips are so hype, and I've spent over 20 hours doing combos in training mode. as far as I'm concerned, no other game even comes close to touching its level.
>>577172301matchmaking has been broken since the beta
>>577172301The matchmaking is just slow as shit, go to the open lobbies
>>577158685nah her 2H does nothing
>>577155454I don't get this. Like, why are they worried about assits spam when it's easily punishable?
>>577173785rape
>>577174270
I think I prefer DBFZ desu so far. But, DBFZ has had years of updates breaking the game free more and more, whereas this is just at launch. DBFZ was pretty on rails at launch itself, probably moreso than this. I'm looking forward to how ArcSys let's this shit fly in the coming years with updates.Also pls add Baiken as guest character. Make it Marvel vs ArcSys.
>>577173785buff ms marvel
>>577174630DBFZ has the more interesting movement, pressure, routing by farI hate how Tokon has no oki after a level 2 or how staggers basically don't exist because fucking lights are -3 in this game
damn bro I can't believe Tocoom is making me like this brown cunt
>>577174986>DBFZ has the more interesting movement, pressure, routing by farAgreed. I used to open people up just by staggering 4LL into IAD high/low. You can't do that in Tokon because the movement is so fucking sluggish, or maybe I'm playing the wrong characters but it feels awful. You can't really do slow, meticulous strings on people you have to fully commit to a full blockstring into assist into plus frames and I find it very boring to play and watch. I like the game but offensive pressure/mix and movement are my biggest disappointments with it so far
>>577175326they need to get rid of the arbitrary delay on airdash and make JL hit high3/4 of the roster has no mix. you can't even do a basic high low iad it's all reactable
>>577175326I think Tokon is more assist mix reliant. FighterZ you could full on solo character mix people on your last character pretty good. Tokon I'm pretty sure they realized that because you have 3-4 characters for most of the game rather than losing characters as the game goes on, they couldn't make solo character mixups too strong and made it more centered on how you use the active tag and assists. If you had DBFZ level movement and mix on your lead character plus three assists plus ability to active tag, they probs thought it'd be too much.But, maybe with updates they'll loosen the game up a bit.
Doom is the Piccolo of Tokon.
Hey, if I had to link my PS account to the PC version, and I don't enjoy it on PC, would I still keep any and all DLC? Or would I have to purchase it again?
>>577175580You're telling me I play Carnage who has a Strive tier airdash it feels like total dogshit to play. I don't get why jL can't be an overhead when we have stuff like Shuri and Spidey's built in high-lows. Hell if you kept the current airdash speed, jL overhead still wouldn't be particularly threatening>>577175717>I think Tokon is more assist mix reliantThis is somewhat true, but even with assists lots of characters just don't have any mix regardless. Or what mix people do think they have is completely fake. A lot of the active tag setups you're seeing people post on twatter are not real setups at all and either have gaps, engage crossup protection, etc
>>577176383with carnage at least you can do 5U short hop J2[H]/2L for some sort of mixthe character feels like ass to play tho i agree
>>577176515Yea that's all he has though and it's so slow I don't see anyone ever getting hit by it lol. It would be sick if all hits of jH were overhead but alas. I tried doing some weird hop j5M jU j214x mixups but j214L is not an overhead for whatever reason. Makes me wanna go play spidey :(
>>577174986eh it's more of a per-character thing. Loki has an absolutely nasty IAD-like high low with the 236M > air dash > jM or 236M > 2L but you gotta be quick with the timing (or just mash easy input)it's all preplanned though. As a 530,000bp babby on DBFZ who never labbed shit this game was designed for people like me i.e. everything already pre-programmed to work so all I gotta do is look up the latest diaphone guide. no autismo clayton-tier work needed unfortunately
>>577157179go into survival, pick your team and focus on one goal: getting your BNB down perfect on both sidesthen practice specific context BNB (corner combos, corner carry, meter-dump, wall break, solid wall etc.)then go online and practice punishing unsafe shit. get a feel for neutral (you will lose a bunch)it doesn't matter if you get destroyed as long as you're specifically training something. also ranked will be fucked for this first week until the high level players get sorted out
Does anyone know if you're vulnerable and not guarding on jump startup?
>>577177020Loki is one of the 4 characters I can think of with actual mix. I like how he's designed. He's going to be ultra cancer when the nerds find out what the best trap oki set up turns out to be
>>577176830Starlord literally has nothing to threaten people with midscreen (held 5H is reactable) and he's one of the strongest characters. This game is so fucking boring
>>577177020Yeah this game has no timing required for using tags and assists like DBFZ had which is kinda cool I guess. I can see why people say it's a casualized experience for that but it's probably good for helping normies into tag mechanics. L>M>H>A>L>M>H>Special or whatever lets a monkey do more than just auto combos and even jumping combos since assists catch knockdowns automatically.
i really wish magneto/blade weren't such OP assists because you absolutely need to run them otherwise you just lose neutral from the startcompare peni back assist to blade lmao or carnage down assist to magneto
>>577175580>3/4 of the roster has no mixTry pressing M+H at the same time. Hope this helps.
>>577180630>relying on strike throw in a tag gamelol lmao
>>577180630lil bro thinks he's on sf6 lmaooo
>>577176383>You're telling me I play Carnage who has a Strive tier airdashhis airdash is literally the same as everyone else, as is his backdash. you can test it with a stopwatch like I did if you don't believe me, and his ground dash is worse because he can just superjump and threaten 60% of the screen with jump U
>>577180767>>577181053strike/throw is literally better in tag games then it is in normal games because you can use your assists to set them up or cover whiffed grabs you dumbass, just look at this shit https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KdQUucLY_uY. this is a game where grabs are faster then normals and can throw you out of your attacks, they're strong.I get you're dbz players which is a game that literally didn't have grabs outside of specials and instead had some abomination with like 35f startup, but watch any marvel 2/3, skullgirls or bbtag tournament and people are getting thrown all the time.
ah checking the wiki they did actually buff dragon rush a dozen times after anyone who didn't grow up with it dropped the game so now it's """"only""""19f and glows green and is literally techable by mashing random buttons or holding up
>grab someone in Tokon>tiny damage into no oki>they evade your grab>75% damage combohmm
>>577181404>his airdash is literally the same as everyone elseno it's not. Go test it out yourself right now. Pick Carnage and Iron Man and compare their airdash speeds. It is absolutely not the same. >>577181734>strike/throw is literally better in tag games then it is in normal gamesNo it's not, especially not in this game >and instead had some abomination with like 35f startupDragon Rush was 19f startup and could be ticked. You're not tick throwing people in this game to beat mashing, you're retarded>>577181992>now it's """"only""""19f and glows green and is literally techable by mashing random buttons or holding upIt was literally always this way. The only thing that ever changed about dragon rush with patches is the ability to tick with it off of 5L
bart simpson over here wants us to go for a 20% health grab when there's a free universal frame 1 reversal that beats it
in dbfz a dragon rush lead to a full combo (albeit scaled) that you could extend into normal knockdown oki or a level 3 or whatever you want. throw in this game leads to less damage than an LLL autocombo and no oki. also yes like the other guy said L+A beats it for free
>Regular throw seems too weak, should we buff it?>No, instead we should give every character high-low 50-50s so that throws are even more of a vestigial mechanic than they already are, while at the same time eroding the uniqueness of the characters that have a high-low 50-50 built into their kit so that characters are even more uniform and homogeneous Real masters of game design here, ArcSys should defnitely learn a thing or two from you guys.
>>577183764You sound like a retard. This is a tag game. If you want no high lows and want it to all be strike throw, might I suggest slime fighter 6?
What's a really basic combo situation or pressuring opponent situation to tag into another character? I can't wrap my head around this shit.
>but assemble counter/jumpsthis game has a fucked up buffed version of the bbtag throws where you can tick into them from 5a, they dash forward if they're not in throw range, but they're also 5f point blank and this game has no pushblock. projectile assist + throw and projectile assist + dash into button literally look identical. if you want to bait out assemble counter you can dash and then just block as your assist activates the counter and then you kill them because that shit is -16 on block, and if they didn't do the counter they still blocked your assist and you just run active tag bullshit on them instead, then when they start hesitating you can hit them with the throw right before your projectile assist lands which will tag attempts to fuzzy jump out.>>577182156>75% damage comboit's BECAUSE the damage is so high in this game that throws are scary. that 75% combo + 1 throw for 16% is almost your whole lifebar gone already>no okiagainst a wall you either wallbreak for +25 or against a corner you get +45
>>577184505blockstring -> assist during it -> tag into an overhead while still in blockstun
>>577184636oh yeah, and assist + dashblock also beats attempts to mash out because you'll block, your assist is well behind you and shoots them because assists don't go away on hit in this game
>>577184225>This is a tag gameYes, and?>If you want no high lows and want it to all be strike throwI don't, my post mentioned there are several characters that do potent high-lows.If you want a game where every character does unreactable uninteractable mix that leads to ToD combos, might I suggest MvC3?
man this ceo lineup for tokon is so stacked
>>577182206>Dragon Rush was 19f startup and could be ticked. imagine thinking 19f startup is a good tick throw when marvel 2/3 have 1f throws
>>577182206>Pick Carnage and Iron Man and compare their airdash speeds.I was comparing carnage and shuri, who have the same recovery in the in-game frame data and took the same length of time to cross the screen. I guess there's some variance like this but iron man (and starlord, so I guess everyone with 8 way dash) don't so much go faster as they just dash for longer, it actually takes them slightly more time then carnage to cross the screen because you don't land as oftenfor a character with giga active jump heavies and big screen control tentacle U button and fullscreen combo starters with 236H I think "doesn't have the absolute best airdash in the game in all categories" is fine
Does anyone have Magneto bnbs that use 1 assist and 0 meter and no wall slump? Feel like most videos online just full send all resources or wall slump early.
>>577184505>>577184656light medium heavy -> special move + assist so that you can keep pushing buttons after your special -> medium into another special + tag buttonyou will now be controlling your assist as your point does that special and now your new character can hit more buttons
>>577185328Tbf to dbfz that game had some potent DR crushes but that was like layer 3 shit
https://x.com/Biscxtti/status/2087181307839135993Promoter free DLC when
>>577184636> where you can tick into them from 5aYou can't tick throw 5L into MH in this game. Go try it yourself in the corner. 5L MH just leads to a run; there's no range in which it doesn't just run.>that 75% combo + 1 throw for 16% is almost your whole lifebar gone alreadyYou misunderstood the other anon. They're saying if someone evades your throw you can easily take 75% >>577185127>If you want a game where every character does unreactable uninteractable mix that leads to ToD combosYou're being pedantic. Nobody is asking for this. You don't realize it now because you're being pointlessly contrarian, but a good majority of the cast not having real mix compared to top tiers that can loop high/low 50/50s on you is going to create an incredibly stale meta.>>577185592>big screen control tentacle U button and fullscreen combo starters with 236H I think This aspect of Carnage is incredibly overrated at the moment imo. His hurtboxes are absolutely massive and given the nature of 0 assist cooldown all you have to do is tag him with an assist and you get a free combo on him when he's trying to do that "fullscreen control". His 5u is -14 OB if not perfect ranged and 236x is -9 if it doesn't have parasite bomb to back it up. He's going to get lamed out way way easier than people like you are expecting.
Wolverine is just a worse Black Panther.
>>577187079ghost rider is a better rekka character
>>577186796>is going to create an incredibly stale meta.I don't see how everyone looping high/low 50/50s so the top tiers are just the characters with insane neutral tools on top of that would be somehow less stale.
do you get put in a quitter queue like sf6 for quitting on laggers?
>>577185760Ok I think I've got it figured out now, ty
rough launch but its doing well for itself
>>577187424This game is going to devolve into who is going to mix the most and get the most out of it no matter what you want. So you either take out everyone's mix or give everyone ways to mix. Those are the only options without drastically changing the fundamentals of the game. If we only allow 4 or 5 characters to properly mix those are going to be the only characters people play once everyone has learned the game.
>>577189039It's a good game.Even ignoring the competitive shit and balance issues, the game has a story, different modes, cool little stuff
>>577189150pretty much, it's funny though seeing the IGN review comparing this to SF6>It’s rare when a fighting game manages to tick virtually every box, but Marvel Tokon: Fighting Souls comes about as close as a game has gotten since Street Fighter 6.basically Tokon managed to break through to the non FGC
>>577189039Its a fighting game anon. Have you seen review scores for this genre? If a fighting game has less than 80 on meta then its insanely bad like feces in software form tier. Its geniuenly retarded how fighting games completly devoid of content with netcode issues get 8+/10 somehow for some reason. Its retarded how much leeway this genre gets from press and people in general.
>>577189412Mitchel said same shit about COTW anon. That dude is a fucking retard.
>>577189054>>If we only allow 4 or 5 characters to properly mix those are going to be the only characters people play once everyone has learned the game.And if you give insane mix to everyone, people will only play 4 or 5 characters that have extremely strong neutral tools on top of their mix.There are plenty of fighters that manage to have a few mixup-focused characters without them being some overpowering problem that takes over the metagame, I don't see why Tokon would be some special exception to that.
>>577189575a broken clock is right at least once a day, other reviews are backing him up
>>577189428That's all non-indie video games anon. 7/10 is the lowest score IGN will give to any game with a major publisher, and that's if the game is agreed to be terrible by everyone. Fucking Concord got a 7 out of 10. Anyone who takes any sort of institutional video game journalism seriously is a certified retard, it's all just people with journalism degrees who wanted to do actual journalism or maybe film critique being forced to review video games or go homeless. It's why the mainstream video game journalism is so anti-gaming.
HE IS HULK
>>577190246BANNER IS GONE
I'm a scrub how do I stop button mashing?
>>577190435It's really hard in this game and not even pros know how to do it 100% of the time, if you're referring to wake upsUse attacks with lots of active frames like a medium or a heavy or a skill if you have itIf they mash during your strings you need to learn how to frame trap them properly with assists. if you delay your attacks you sometimes leave gaps and they mash into them (like when you do 5M into 2M, you can delay it a lot)
>>577189601>people will only play 4 or 5 characters that have extremely strong neutral tools on top of their mix.Nah this isn't the case at all. Your point character's neutral matters very little when you will always start round 1 with a projectile assist that has effectively 0 cooldown. On top of having an armored+projectile invuln superdash + armored overhead + 1f meterless counter that beats everything. The difference in each character's neutral is borderline meaningless and what will separate good from bad is their capability to open you up when they finally make you block. You can give everyone easy access to a simple high/low and still keep the identity of "proper" mixup characters like Loki and Gobby since they have more intricate mixups and more options overall to open you up. Even if mix were completely homogenized and people gravitated towards neutral focused characters, that would make for a more interesting game overall imo.Go watch that old GO1 vs Leffen set from DBFZ people always talk about and watch the movement. Really high level neutral in fast tag games is a kind of skill expression you can't find anywhere else.
>>577190637I mean more actually stop myself from mashing instead of doing actual combos
>>577189658DNF Duel is at 80. Strive at 87(release Strive that took 4 minutes to boot with almost zero single player content btw). Vanilla Granpoo with its 11 characters and 2 hours long "RPG" mode and delay netcode at 79 somehow. Im not saying that Tokon is a bad game its the opposite but standards for fighting games are in the toilet.>>577190180Im not talking about just IGN but averages in general.
I know they have to cater to the kinds of retards who actually like capeshit but couldn't they have put some scaling on supers.
>>577190718oh. well just don't mash buttons. if you do it because you're anxious it will get better the more you play and practice
>>577190665>Go watch that old GO1 vs Leffen set from DBFZ people always talk about and watch the movement. Really high level neutral in fast tag games is a kind of skill expression you can't find anywhere else.You do understand that DBFZ of that era was a game where most characters didn't have good mix, and people still didn't exclusively play the characters that had good mix?
>>577190246>>577190428that shit cracks me up every time.
>>577190830damn guess I'll hit up training mode then but thanks.
>>577190771>Im not talking about just IGN but averages in general.What I said applies to pretty much every mainstream institutional video game journalism outlet. Pretty much all of them (that use numbers) use 8 as a score for an average game, and none of them regularly go under 7, certainly not for games with big publishers. If you want actual good and honest video game reviews, your best bet is unironically random shitters making Youtube videos.
best strats for the last 20 battles of survival mode?
>>577190958>You do understand that DBFZ of that era was a game where most characters didn't have good mix,? Not even remotely true. String > assist + superdash lead to a high/low 50/50 on a vast majority of the cast. Even for the characters without low 2Ls you could still mix with 6m+assist or various left/rights. Mix wasn't something they greatly expanded upon with DBFZ patches. Most updates gave characters in that game stronger neutral tools and better combo routing. The only time mix really changed was with the snapback looping of s2, and that wasn't even when mix was at its strongest.
>>577191253We constantly have AAA titles getting 7 or less so I have no idea what the actual fuck you're talking about.
>>577190958Also, that was season 1 of DBFZ. S1 DBFZ had hard knockdown on meterless special moves where you had to sit and hold multiple 50/50s in a row with no way but sparking to get out. Adult gohan and a16 and kbuu and cell dominated very early dbfz solely because they had such insane mix
>>577186796only like 5 assists in the whole game can even hit a carnage at superjump height and he can very easily move around them because he gets double jump/airdash/divekick to mix up his angle along with calling air assists while he finds the spacing to jump U you while not eating a 2H
>>577191410hulk smash. very easy to do dmg with him. just get hit into corner carry and charge 5h > 5U > 5A gamma loop x 3 into supers. have regen on ko's upgrade. magneto spam projectiles good option. carnage long range attacks as well, but converting can be harder depending on skill lvl. but AI has trouble with projectiles. ghost rider flame carpet is an issue for them too if have the assist. but for me, hulk just so easy to do like 70k+ off any random hit. i use magneto anchor assist for long range. can do claps to keep out until magneto hits and pulls them in. then convert for kill usually.
Actually yes I want to watch the team intro every single time I finish a match that's absolutely the right thing to do.
>>577191059get used to doing proper strings (Ms into Hs) even if it costs you games
>>577186796>You can't tick throw 5L into MH in this game. Go try it yourself in the corner. 5L MH just leads to a run; there's no range in which it doesn't just run.https://streamable.com/19js4qI dunno what game you're playing but it's not tokon, because here's me doing the exact inputs you described and getting 5L into throw.you didn't mean on hit did you? are you a dbz player? tick throws in games where throws arent comically slow are done on block, not hit
>>577192417WE'VE GOT A HIGH PROFILE MATCH COMING UPIN THE ORANGE CORNEEEEEEEEER-
>>577192813>https://streamable.com/19js4qAnon... that's not a tick throw. You just posted a clip where exactly what I said will happen; you run forward after the 5L. If it were a real tick throw your 5f throw would beat a 6f jab but it doesn't.
>Flats the OW/Marvel Rivals player is stepping into Tokon on stream right nowThis is gonna be a great cataloguing of what an average PC normie will experience trying to pick this game up for the first time based on the IP.
>>577191430dbz 6m is slower then iad M in tokon so if you think people can get hit by that shit then every character in tokon has mix
Mind you, Aaron just got 3rd at the Fly Quest tournament
>>577194390go back to sfg tifa nigger
I feel like I should be in an obviously advantageous position after a perfect reflect but it's so scrambly that I often end up getting hit right after I do it.
>>577191430This poster is someone who knows the game.
>>577194390This dude won EVO in GBVSR and the moment they SLIGHTLY, SLIGHTLY nerfed the undiscussed top 1 SSS tier character he was playing he couldn't win shit anymore and chimped out
https://youtu.be/xLNtLpmdalcListen
We need model rips so we can get Shuri piping Magik with her gigantic smegma encrusted futa cock
>>577194390I know I've seen this guy say at least one turbo-retarded thing once so I'm disregarding all of his opinions forever.
I love shit like this https://x.com/i/status/2087123534728593808
>>577194727She is Peni.
>>577194757>I know I've seen this guy say at least one turbo-retarded thingHe's an unending deluge of retardation.
>>577194727Peni is coming
This game is doomed unless Tyler1 picks it up.
>>577194846Holy fucking level of detail, Arcsys went all out with this game. How much did they get paid holy shit
Does this game go into an ELO system like Strive and SF6 do once you reach Vibranium? I'm still only in Diamond.
>>577195504yes but it's after vibranium
>>577194117sex
>>577194846>>577195415I'm only on issue 68 of ASM so I'm far away from Carnage and symbiote stuff. Does Spider-Man's spider sense not detect them or something?
What are the chances that Promoter is the second DLC? Her moveset is way too fleshed out to not be playable. Same with suit Champion.
>>577195415unsurprising, grub was like that too
Spider Man feels like crack to play lmao AND he's busted no wonder he's giga popular
I'm surprised at there being DBFZ scholars here. I fucking love that game even more so now with the game being more volatile than when it was more tame before. Never got into Marvel but I consider DBFZ to be amongst the best tag fighting game ever. It's a shame the community for that game isn't as hyper in love with the game as Marvel fans seem to be. If UMVC 3 had rollback i can see the player numbers on Steam being in the 1k range for sure. With all that said I vastly prefer Tokon 1.0 over DBFZ 1.0 at the moment. It's just the movement in general DBFZ has over Tokon for me like others said but the unique character kits and the team synergy with active tag is incredibly fun. Over 20 hours playing and I still haven't settled on a team yet.I love tag fighters so much bros. I'm happy we got another one that will have a ton of dev support and players to play with. Tried to get into 2XKO and It wasn't for me and Invincible VS was fine but that game is sorta dead now unfortunately.
>game out for less than a week>people hard upbacking into assist spam in rankedThinking that I might have to go back to Dix like a battered wife.
>>577195764Venom and Venom’s kids (like Carnage) aren’t affected by Spidey sense since Venom was attached to Peter initially.
>>577194347You can't do iad jM in Tokon mid string without a gap like you can a 6M in DBFZ so even though it's technically faster it's much much worse as a mixup tool. Tokon's normals/specials have too many recovery frames. String > assist > iad jM isn't something people are going to get mixed by unless they use gobby back assist
>>577196042just drop fighting games or play fightcade
>>577193278oh, that's what you meant by "doesn't just run", the "just run" made me think you were talking about the throw not coming out at all.well like I was saying before, you just use your assists (because it's a tag game and they're free with almost 0 cooldown if you call them in neutral) to set stuff up. https://streamable.com/d7qivfhttps://streamable.com/qm6er4both of these counterhit 5A mash and get you a pickup after. or you dont go for the tick throw and just keep the string going, or you block and wait for the assist to put them in blockstun first to bait assemble counter and then active switch them.
finna pick up magneto
>>577196112>You can't do iad jM in Tokon mid string without a gapyou can with active tag, the mechanic the entire game is designed around
>>577196028a21sex
>>577196496>just do paper or scissors
>>577196496I don't think you know what a tick throw is, none of those are tick throws
Active tag was the worst mechanic ever added to tag games and MVCI doesn’t get enough hate for that.
>>577196982what makes them not?
>>577197003what the fuck is active tag and how is other tag different
>>577197220the word "immediate" in the first line
>>577196028>Never got into Marvel but I consider DBFZ to be amongst the best tag fighting game ever. that's why you think this. bronze looks like gold to someone that's never seen it.
>>577197260Active tag is when you can tag into your assist characters after they do their assist, in older tag games you couldn't do that and swapping characters was a lot slower and vulnerable
>>577197220Like the other anon said, the word "immediate". Tick throws are often hitting on the first frame the opponent is out of blockstun. With Tokon you're doing that run with a giant gap inbetween the blockstun from 5L ending and the throw hitting. You can cover it with (certain) assists sure for a very rudimentary setup but it's not a tick throw
>>577197367DBFZ >>>> MVC
>>577197583>Tick throws are often hitting on the first frame the opponent is out of blockstunYeah that's not happening in any ArcSys game, they all have throw protection for several frames after leaving blockstun.
>>577197367People shit on how crazy DBFZ became but praise the fuck out of Marvel and how degenerate that game is. I don't get it...
>>577197716People who like degenerate slop play Marvel. People who don't like degenerate slop played DBFZ and then they turned the game into degenerate slop, so naturally those people shit on it.
>>577197713You can tick throw in Xrd. Jack-O and Pot do it a lot with their command grabs.
>>577197713Wrong
>>577197583>>577197273you're being petty. if they can't interact with me before the throw comes out besides literally 1 option that's super easy to bait out and then I'm still massively + anyway and just go for high/low mix with active tag, it's a strong option.>uhh but actually I'm gonna react to the 18f of running every time even thoughokyou can also just raw throw + assist if you want the fastest throw possible which likewise prevents them from countering and also even if they tech the throw they tech into the projectile assist anyway and you're still at advantage
>>577198005Xrd has 5f of throw protection after blockstun you larping retard, throws lose to jabs in that game.
>>577197716because in marvel I don't spend half the fucking round waching cutscenes, chip damage is strong instead of most projectiles putting me into a superdash RPS, and I can control space without just using the copypasted lariat/halfscreen advancing normal they gave to 90% of the roster because they realized everyone having stubby limbs is garbage
did everyone flush this game right away in the beta, not even shitposting or attentionwhoring going on
>>577198597the resident fighting game general attentionfags are all on shitty gayming laptops using potato mode to play strive so they didn't even bother
>>577198349Every time i watch marvel I see some horrendous bullshit that puts me off from getting into the game. I can't believe people played that game for money. Losing a character and dealing with incoming mix-up has to be the worst thing ever concocted in a fighting game. And why do characters have fucking normals that deal chip damage?
>>577197716Current dbfz is way better how it was for 90% of its lifespan
>>577198819>And why do characters have fucking normals that deal chip damage?because characters having unique strengths is cool and interesting, instead of dbz where every character has the same 4 tools because they realized only those 4 moves are actually any good in the system they created so rather then fix the game they just patched everyone to have the same shit (see the big assist expansion patch where they just gave half the roster a beam assist b/c everyone was running beam characters before that)
>>577198089>it's a strong optionIt really isn't, the fact that you have to keep mentioning multiple incompatible oses together should give it away.
>>577198089I'm not being petty I'm just telling you that what you're showing and saying is a tick throw is not a tick throw.
>>577198975
Looks like Capcucks are still running their disinfo campaign.
>>577198597it's almost like fighting games are a dead genre
>>577199356the fuck do you mean invincibility? when I was testing out anti air assists I could just easily hit ms marvel out of the air with jumping M from blade
>>577199356The best two aa assists being in NO makes this a bit silly, we're less than a week in and it's clear you don't need an aa assist to actually anti air people jumping at or over you.
>>577199079People meme on the game for having too many Goku's (valid compliant) but they definitely play differently now than before. And in DBFZ you can build w team with whoever you want and don't have to be a meta slave.
I turned on casual to try and speed up the matchmaking and all the games are laggy as fuck lol
>>577199684i prefer dbfz where everyone is busted than the current tokon meta where you'll only see gobby BP spiderman and magik ngl
>>577199684>And in DBFZ you can build w team with whoever you want and don't have to be a meta slave.because every character has the same tools, that's what I'm saying
>got to vibranium>15 minutes to find a gameit's day 5??? what the fuck
>>577200198dbz on launch was nothing but black, cell, 16 and kid buu
>>577200262welcome slowbroeither the mm is fucked or no one is herei'm happier losing because i can't imagine the queue times in master. if you watch streamers it looks fast but it's because they're getting stream sniped
So it seems that it's really only about 5-6 characters in this game that give potent mix. The rest are either ass or just have solid neutral.
>>577200198>everyone has the same toolsThat wasn't even true for 1.0 DBFZ and is even less true in its current/more developed state
Lmao this hulk hero is cheap
>>577200262i set myself to platinum and its still slow
hook is a bitch for dropping peni, will never support him from now on
>>577201007she's garbage you should be dropping her too. you like losing games?
>>577200605Hook becoming an alcoholic fat chud over the years is sad to see. I remember him being the kid that won summit of power for DBFZ with a bright eSports future ahead of him. Now he just watches movies with his twitch chat amd drinks himself to death.
>>577200605Ohhh so that’s what I’m supposed to do to mix?
>>577200605uhh wheres the cross protection ??? everyone doomposted about it
Fuck it all this DBFZ talk is making me want to rotate between Tokon and DBFZ as my main fighters. But these games are somewhat similar that i don't think I'd be able to handle alternating between them as well as i could
>>577201160He was out of blockstun for like a whole second when storm hit him. There was no need for crossup protection that mix is fake and could've been 2Hd
>>577201078i actually started winning more with her today, she's still bad but she's uniquei really like being able to wallcling after 22M and crossing them up
>>577201160the crossup protection is why that mix is as slow as it is. it is bad in this game.
>>577197716because 97% of MvC praise is made up shit by posers, just like +r with the difference that +r actually has meritsumvc niggers were screeching for weeks about how good umvc3 would be at Evo, then the top 8 was the most unholy sludge ever seen
>>577200605This is dumb 2H will just hit infront and behind here?
>>577201438>>577201335Are you guys playing a different game where 2H hits both sides? Ironman has the same float-mix. It's solid.
>>577201402Zzzt zzt zzt bzzt zzt zttAnd the fawkin unblockable
>>577201271I would play DBFZ over Tokon any day of the week but unfortunately DBFZ has died down a lot. Granted with Tokon's horrendous matchmaking you might unironically find matches faster in DBFZ.
first master champion for snakeyez. makes him look fun.
>>577201438Probably, but you could block the 2H I'm sure so there's still some deterrent to it.
>>577201587>Are you guys playing a different game where 2H hits both sides?Oh boy do I have some bad news for you.
>>577201653DBFZ just needed crossplay to be perfect, sad ti see the numbers decline over the years when the game has rollback.Matchmaking issues need to be resolved ASAP for Tokon though as well as one sided rollback. Those are the last major issues but I'm hopeful they'll he fixed relatively soon.
>>577201685? Why is blocking 2H a deterrent?
>>577201940It's a deterrent for the Blade to not just spam 2H considering it could be baited - although I guess it's not much of one considering he could just cover it with an assist. Making it whiff would probably be a better option ideally but it's such a huge button that that's harder to do and then punish than it can initially seem.
Which characters are slept on at the moment.
>>577202163You know you can chain 2H into 5H right? It's an OS as well just mash it out you get the cinematic launcher on hit and 5H blockstring on block.
>>577201663>Doomof fucking course...
>>577202297Yeah, that's why I said making it whiff would be ideal, but that would be assuming you could reliably punish after which I don't know that you can.
>>577201912What it needed was rollback like 2-3 years earlier and for rollback to not release broken. I wanted to hop back in with the rollback update so bad but by the time it was fixed everyone had already moved on. It's still my favorite fighting game of all time and I started with alpha 3
>>577201402like every top 8 that evo was full of mirror matches, stop bullshit
mfs be like yea my game runs at 55 fps lemme pick ghost rider and get on ranked
>>577197367I wish mahvel niggas would just crumble to dust already
>>577202727Covid, no rollback and a broken top tier labcoat 21 nuked the fuck out of DBFZ's growth over the years. Sad to see it fizzle out after how monumental it was as a game when it released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnkgd5YuBDM
>>577193829>#adI really want this game to succeed but its painfully obvious theyre trying to do as much damage control as possible with their horrible start paying all these streamers to play
>>577203917Aren't these ad streams common for games in general though?
Can you get ko'd by the guard cancel?
When you use an assist in a combo the character gets greyed out so you know you can't use it again. Why can't they just grey everything out when you're unable to call an assist to make it clear?
>>577204484You can get killed by the 4L+A so it wouldn't surprise me.
>>577203917They don't have someone sitting in the office looking at the steam charts and saying "shittu, we havu to sponsoru sutoreamahs", they set aside the money for sponsored shit months ago.
it seems people are getting the hitboxes
I keep trying to backdash as though it has invincibility but it absolutely does not have invincibility.
>>577203772Galaxy brain level max as usual.
Tōkon Tourneyhttps://www.twitch.tv/paragonfgcThere's another one going on, but I'm not sure if it's being streamed.
I'm EU, if i hosted lobbies would you faggots join?
>>577207261Maybe in the future but I wouldn't right now.
>>577207261Sure, but it's midnight...
>>577125660No you can get the pull but sometimes you don't have enough frames to follow through unless you use the bomb which gives you more frames, enough to just go into raw 214M actually
>>577203174shut the fuck uphttps://youtu.be/NG-unKVZuqo?t=7056
>>577208235https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_2023mvc3, tekken 7, dbz, melty were all mirror match grand finals. so was kof but the guy was only playing almost the exact same team for the first few rounds before swapping to yet another mirror match.only sf6, mk11, and strive weren't mirrors, less then half of the games you shut the fuck up
How fast are throws in this game
>>577208748Slow.
>>577202294iron man
>>577210260Give me some BnB's, I'll try him out
>>577210430https://youtu.be/RHSfMhhreCMhttps://youtu.be/oYsHEJBzeoA
>increase assist cooldown if they get hit>increase assist cooldown when you rapidly throw a bunch out at the same time>add a burst that costs your team disassembling>make grabs beat assemble counterThere the game is fixed
>>577200605This reminds me of an old Melty shitpost with Satsuki where she just double airdashed
>>577211052lol what a throwback
No wonder nobody watches Fightan streamers. 99% have no personality. Just autism
>>577211490Sajam bores me to fucking tears in his stream and on commentary. The guy is the human personification of white bread.
>>577211490shame clayton doesn't stream he's super charismatic
>>577211915FACTS
They made this game to reward people who hold forward and mash on wakeup in every game.
>>577210430https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIfOqoZFQ7I
>>577211915The guy can't got 2 minutes without mentioning how much of a FGC pariah he is.
>try to meaty with a delayed 5L>opponent rolls in place, wakes up 2H>i get hitwake up timers in this game are fucking me up
>>577211490Aren't we forgetting someone?
>>577212461yeah hes the 1%.
Tears in my eyes that this game has replay takeover. With rollback being common we need this feature to be the next thing that's in every fighting game moving forward.
>>577212461LTG is a bitchmade faggot compared to how he was during the SF4 and 5 days. He's completely soulless now that his a-logs are ready to spam reports when he calls someone a faggot.
I wish I could play this game without lagging my friends
>>577212614Ai should just control them and we yell combos at it like lex luthor.
idk how i got worse from the beta. maybe i shouldn't have picked up carnage
>>577214182Everyone else probably got better.
>>577214182Carnage is a very one dimensional character
>>577201079This is why esports and streaming are memes. Video games are not a real career.
>>577212614I was shocked when I went into replays and it had takeover. Seems like something they would have advertised at some point.
>>577214432How do they have replay takeover but not a frame bar? I got spoiled by this they need to add it as soon as possible
https://x.com/AerthasVeras/status/2087017111138820516Finally we will get some good fucking pron
>promoter has a full moveset >not playable at allWhy?
Magik wall ass scenario where she's stuck in her portal!!!
>Iron Man has a j3[H] move>uses the same animation as j2H but j2[H] is not an accepted input for itwhat was the logic here arcsys
>>577215564watch it she will be on the battle pass
>>577215564its not a full moveset. it is some normals, lightshow thing and like a throw or some shit.
just noticed daru i-no picked up this game and is maining danger lol
>>577215564im looking in the files for evidence, ill post here if i find anything that cant be found in-game
man if only the game had teams of 5 instead of 4 I could play every character I really like at once
So is Mahvel Toekawn the FGC saving gem or no?>>577215137I think capcom patented the framebar but I might be wrong.
>>577215137the game tells you the startup, active frames, hitstun length and how + or - you are after landing a hit. it takes a bit of mental math but you get all the same info
>>577215989that was quickhttps://vocaroo.com/16OpfNKn6o42
>>577215908No one gives a shit about him outside of gg. He sucks ass at every other game.
really really enjoying labbing the magneto/cap core. its so satisfying to figure out cool active tag stuff in this game
>>577216485if you're legit post the jp voice file
>>577215823>>577215989>>577216485She might actually be future DLC then lol. I wouldn’t mind
>>577215726should I draw this?
>>577216681announcer is english only
>>577216849Yes
>>577216786She will definitely be added in the future. It's just a matter if it will be free or not. People will get mad if she is not free desu
>>577216485tbf this could just be for doing the minigame shit against her outside of story mode
>>577217190https://x.com/Biscxtti/status/2087181307839135993There is no way they would build an entire moveset to her including Super and just never add her as a playable character
every single character has an unique intro and win quotes against her going from the localization file
the matchmaking is so fucking bad
>>577212325>All those flight cancelsDamn, how tight are his combos?
>>577217881she even has unique team stuff
>>577217181There’s simply no way she isn’t. If champion is free, I am assuming she’ll be part of the battlepass to sweeten the deal
What makes Phoenix Cyclops different from regular Cyclops?
>>577218516hes cosmic level, but still just a shitty character from a shitty storyline.
>>577218516He's got phoenix power
>>577218516he's got uhh... some fire powers... fwoosh!
the thing and gambit are coming
>>577212370I don't think you know the meaning of the word pariah. People can hate all they want but its a fact most these games we play owe a majority of the tech to him.
>>577218516
>>577216942any details?
>>577218983daredevil too? the other F4 members are there but they aren't named normally
>>577218983I guess P.Cyclops, Promoter, Gambit and Thing is an okay season, if a little dull and cheap considering Promoter is already in the base game and could/should have been an unlockable like The Champ.
>>577219623>it's tokon time
>>577219623Sue and Reed are called those names, though. Same with Johnny so I dunno what you mean by they're not named normally.
>>577219768i meant their id names compared to the prior 3
>>577219623They will probably be part of Things moveset instead of being actual characters. He might be like the Champion where he just brings in his own assists and cant use others.
>>577219623I guess it makes sense that they're releasing in groups of 4? So P.Cyclops/Gambit/Daredevil/Promoter as a team and F4?
think its just random bullshit list for throwing off dataminers or related to chibi things in arena etc
>>577219623>spiderverseMiles confirmed
>>577219582Make the ass nice and delicious, and a nice arch on her back. A bit of cameltoe would be nice too
Should they buff Champion? I want him to be more viable but I also want that low-tier god vibe
>swapped from Carnage to SpideyYea this is an arcsys game alright. Top tiers completely outclass the other characters god damn
Alright, I've reduced the list of characters I want to try out, which one should I actually go with and why brosI've got Iron Man, Ghost Rider and Blade in mind atm
Ever since the last update, when I hold 4 and then press 6, the game doesn't give me a 6 input anymore. It used to on the previous patch. It's 100% not my input device, I did multiple tests. Could anyone here, who plays on leverless, try holding 4 and then pressing 6 for me, and tell me the results, please?
>>577221897Gives 6 for me
>all the ball cancer top tiers are also the easiest most brain dead characters in the gameExplain how this is okay.
>>577221995Damn that's weird as fuck. Nothing's wrong with the key I use for 6, when I bind it to a different key it doesn't give me the input either. What on Earth? It's literally only while I'm holding 4 that I don't get a 6, otherwise it's perfectly fine. That's super annoying because it means I can't do the "hold 4, 2 6" input for a quick super on the right side. But thank you for testing.
>>577222247Storm is decently hard
>>577221897>>577222271Isn't this basic SOCD? Holding 4 and then pressing 6 should give you 5
Has PC been unfucked yet?
>>577222247Green gobbo is hard and needs a lot of labbing but yea have fun seeing at least two of these: Magik, Spiderman, BP, and Blade in every team.
>>577222528Sorta. Should run on min spec systems now but matchmaking still takes 10+ minutes and playing against someone on a potato PC still one-sided ruins your match.
>>577222413Kind of, it gives you 5 but then immediately after 6, so fast that you don't even notice the 5, only the game does. Weirdest thing is that I just booted up BBCF and it works perfectly fine there, what the hell is going on, why is Toukon refusing one specific input exclusively???
I wanna main goblin and so far I've got Loki and Magneto, but struggling to come up with a 4th. My idea is to have Mag and Loki control space and stall for Goblins glider meter to recharge. I guess I probably need someone to cover for the ground. Team order would be helpful too.
>>577223141I was confused by what you meant so o booted the game just to test. I didn't know this game didn't had a baked in SOCD and it was all coming from my leverless. That's a bit fucked up.Anyway, Just tested and it seems like holding 4 then 6 gives me 5, but holding 6 then 4 gives me 4. I want to assume this isn't intended otherwise some controllers will have advantage over others.
>>577223910>seems like holding 4 then 6 gives me 5So then you have the same issue as I do. Because it should give you 6 and it did so in the last patch. Holding 4 and then pressing 6 should give you 6 not 5.
>>577220798They need to just give him better reward for being on the offensive. He should start the game at green gauge and it should carry over between rounds. It's retarded that he goes back to level 1 at the start of each round instead of letting him keep his momentum.
>>577222528It's as unfucked as it can get. >performance issues on decent PC fixed, if you have minimum specs you should be good>performance issues on toasters will remain, and this will fuck your matchmaking regardless
Hell yeah.
>>577224391>magik germanwhy tho
>>577224489Frau Magik
>>577223571Imo I think resource characters should be swapped out after you use up their resource. I genuinely dont see ahy reason why you should keep in characters like gob or storm after you used what they dedicated 80% of their power budget towards. I also think having more than one resource character is a self grief
If I ever get this game I will get it from a steam key store because I REFUSE to give Sony a single penny. Thank you for reading.
>>577225180Can you even get a refund if you buy the key from a third party
>>577224489German with a proper Russian accent sounds super sexy, and Magik's German VA is a native Russian speaker so her accent is real. Unlike 99% of German VAs she also puts some effort in, I'd say she's on par with the Eng VA. It probably sounds horrible if you're not a native speaker though.
>>577224391>skipping Fairouz Ai Magikmissing out. I've got both Jolynes on my team at all times
>>577225235If you didn't use the key then yes.
yipes is so fucking annoying. him and that other faggot>bing bing blade uses his blade to cut bills!!! BING BING what the fuck is this mind numbing inane nigger babble???
>>577225314Ngl the "Ora!" she does during DP did make it a difficult decision, but German dubs are so insanely dogshit that I just had to set her to GER. It's so incredibly rare to hear a good German voice actor.
Apparently Promoter has video files for a command list
>>577225665yipes is the containment stream for melanated folks
>>577225823>he hasn't unlocked Promoter yetoh no no no
>>577225890melanated or not, he's unwatchable.
>75 KOs in on Survival>starting to have to deal with input reading crossovers/countersI don't wanna think about the level 100 boss
>>577225823>Apparently Promoter has video files for a command listI hope she does become playable in the future. Same with base Champion.
>>577226128Doom at level 80 is the actual hardest boss if you are just cheesing it with Iron Man. Champion is easy as long as you keep spamming since it prevents him from spamming his projectiles which beat yours.
>>577225823screencap or source? can't find anything
>>577226323I'm just trying to playing normal with my ranked team tbqh and at this point I don't wanna restart. It's fun playing Loki but I really can't mix these bots
Do you think this game needs pushblock y/n?Alternatively - do you think this game needs a combo breaker mechanic y/n?
Watching Yipes is like listening to a collection of sound bites. Quite unbearable.
>>577227040I'm glad Lee came in at least, the stream usually gets to the point when he shows up. 2k niggas were gonna watch Yipes just sit in a lobby and soundbite all night.
Phoenix Cyclops seems like a real stick in the mud and like he won’t have fun voice lines like MvC2 Cyclops.
>>577227591He'll be memebait at least if he simps over Jean in a few lines
wheres the fucking crack. i ain't paying for this canned SLOP.
>>577220798I don't think they need to buff him to an insane degree, but some buffs would be sensible. I don't think there would be any harm in letting him enter his install from a grab during a combo.
PC players could participate too? Any matches with lag so far?
>>577226178God, base Champ looks so much fucking coolerWhy couldn't we have gotten him instead
>>577220798The thing is, the character becomes legit busted when he's in his install. One of his assist is an actual overhead. He gets unreactable setups where you call assist (high) and do 2L (low) a frame or two before it hits.
>>577228085Punk's match was 5 frames rollback
45% gone…
>magneto assist, magik normals, bp/spiderman mixthis semen slurping game may not be for me
Hey anons, anyone got some Cap BnB's by any chance?
>everyone says magik is broken>nobody using herhmm...
>>577220798>>577228452they need to either buff install or buff his meter speed just a little, because while he has some strong stuff he's not nearly good enough to justify playing a character with no assists on point for like 3 straight rounds.>One of his assist is an actual overhead. He gets unreactable setups where you call assist (high) and do 2L (low) a frame or two before it hits.can't you just assemble counter a setup like this? champ cant active switch and his assists have startup too so he cant really force you into something like this too often
>>577229928everyone runs her for assault assist
no one's using carnage in this tournament
>>577231417Isn't Punk playing him?
It's interesting that Pachi once directed the combat in Xrd which was extremely setplay-heavy and characters could take a round off of one knockdown, and now he's directed this where just rolling forward and mashing anytime you get knocked down is actually useful.
>>577231712Only for his assist
>>577231712He basically already dropped him and has moved on to Spidey. Carnage is not good but nobody will listen to me.
Black Panther makes me sick.
You play a character who can mix or you don't play at allSimple as that
Is 10k steam player count good or bad?
>>577232792Pretty bad honestly but the PC launch was a disaster
>>577232792Depends entirely of retention which nobody can predict. Maybe they will completely fix the game next week and bring fun characters and skins etc which will make the playerbase grow, or maybe they will never fix any of the issues and the game will have 300 players in two months. No one can tell and anyone pretending they can is probably pushing an agenda.
uh oh...
>>577232792>>577233359I should have added that 10k players is insanely good, but again, we don't know for how long we will keep those 10k.In my opinion if the game stabilizes at 5k that would already be great.
>>577232792itll probably stabilize at around 2k during year 1 which is pretty much top 5 historically in this genre
>>577233502I would be crashing out too if I lost to Punk on a tagslop game
>>577233502It's funny how everytime a "top player" doesn't win it's because the game is actually bad
>>577233649>guy who actually knows how to play neutral beats guy who plays active tag mashers
>cyclops kills me faster than I can jump him on dive character and has a massive leap Why are the devs so fucking incompetent
>>577233939Anon???
>>577233502I remember when this guy first started showing up to bum's for DBFZ and he was garbage and a legitimately psychotic nigger that would chimp out on people. I played him in matchmaking and he fucking sucked ass. He only found success when Vegito/Gogeta Blue + A17 assist was enough to carry any scrub to the highest level. Conveniently long after all good players had moved on from the game as well.What I'm saying is he's a fraud and of course he would think lowly of a game where he can't autopilot win.
>>577234163Eh Hikari cooked Yasha Wawa Inzem. He's legit the strongest dbfz player. I think he won some tournaments on 2XKO too.
>>577234389Maybe he's good at 2XKO, I won't pretend to know because I don't play the game. But I promise you that Gogeta/Vegito Blue + A17 is the most carried team you've ever seen and he would've never made a top 8 during prime DBFZ. Trust me I know what I'm talking about when it comes to DBFZ.
I'm glad I didn't buy the game and just mooched it off of my friend's steam account instead. It's painfully fucking boring and repetitive and even if the PC version ran perfectly you'd see a player drop regardless. It is fucking insanely BORING, like holy fuck everything is so linear. It's just granblue again but with marvel shit.
>>577234652For what it's worth I think S3 Kyden was by far the most dominant player DBFZ has ever had
is it bad if i say that i actively dislike magik in tokon LOLnot even just because she's a frustrating top tier who needs to be toned down substantially, it's that she's caustically abrasive and aggressive in all of her dialogue (and not in a fun way like hulk or goblin)
Notice how nobody plays Wolverine
>>577235201What da fug is blud on about
>>577236147He farmed Wanted for like 40 weeks straight in 2020. Only lost to Wawa who became the next goat of dbfz after that
spidey is fun but his high low mix is actually so insanely braindead
Be honest with me guys, how trash is Peni Parker?
>>577236735bottom 5
>>577236362That's a regional online tournament that was being played on delay based netcode, lol. Nobody cares about that.
>>577236824Worse than Danger?
>>577236873Strongest competition at the time btw
>>577236884It's hard to tell actually. Bottom 5 would be Peni, Danger, Ms Marvel, Captain and maybe Hulk? order may vary depending on who you ask
>>577237073>HulkDamn, big bodies are always bottom tier
>>577237006I don't think you understand how truly dogshit delay based netcode is. His offline tournament results say everything you need to know.
This game should've been f2p
>>577219623>The Defenders>Sinister Six>The Illuminati>The Masters of EvilCouldn't these be hints to future DLC? These are teams with barely/no members of them in the base game. Iron Man is the only member of the Illuminati in the game right now for example.
>>577237073hulk isn't amazing but him and cap are still leagues above those shitters swap them with champ and like, idk wolverine
Top Tiers>Goblin, Spiderman, BP, Magik, StormGood Tiers>Loki, Ghost Rida, Magneto, Doom, Starlord, Blade Mid Tiers>Deadpool, Carnage, Hulk, Champion, Iron Man (?), Cap (?)Low Tiers (actually bad characters)>Danger, Peni, Ms. MarvelChampion is low tier but top tier when installed, so idk I guess he's mid. Iron Man could be good tier I'm not too sure yet. Cap might be low tier but he's the character I'm most unfamiliar with so also not sure. If you don't agree with this list you are wrong.
>>577238889Why is each character as good/bad as they are and is the list ordered?
>>577238958nta but it's basically>top tierscan mix you>low tierscan't mix youThere are other aspects at play of course. All the top tiers also have great movement while characters like Danger have a shit hoverdash and Ms Marvel can't even air dash
>>577238958It's not ordered. I have autism so asking me why they're all good/bad is asking for like 10 posts of rambling so you'd be better off asking me about a specific character.Generally speaking mix is king in this game. Anyone can 2 touch off of scaled 2L starters (except base Champion), neutral doesn't matter on the actual point character because you have 3 assists with no CD, so mix is the only standout factor and the top tiers all completely outclass the rest of the cast at this. Some of the Good/Mid tier characters have mix but they either have glaring weaknesses or are just overall weaker than the top tiers in various ways.
>>577238889Oh whoops I forgot Wolverine, he's Mid also.
This trial is basically a test of how well you understand how gatling combos work. If you don't buffer that air dash, it's ogre. Genuinely the least optimal combo they could've come up with, but it's still fun to do.
>>577220084I will drop this game very second they add this nigger cockroach.
>>577239902You know it's happening. It will drop just in time for his third movie.And since it's a japanese game they will 100% also give him his anime ass super powers
>>577240179I will never support anything with this subhumane creation. If you're white and do this then you're mentally ill self hating cuck without any self respect and dignity in short you're lowest life form in the universe.
>>577239902the game needs more magical negroes!
>>577240456Add my nigga
>>577240717how the fuck do i read this
https://x.com/BgFraudBgFraud/status/2087123534728593808???????????????????
>>577239227What makes Peni bottom tier and are her tools useful in higher levels of play? Right now, I feel like I'm getting away spamming her movement options and gadgets. I don't know if it's realistic to expect being able to maneuver neutral around a good player using assists
>>577240776Top to bottom, left to right, top to bottom again and right to left
>>577240717>bendis>actual unironic negrophileI forgot how that dude unironically made a self insert female character and made Cage rail that character and openly admitted to this. A fact that even left leaning DC authors made fun of his fixation about blacks is hilarious,imagine even Californians being like "yea dude we worship black pepo here but you're taking it too far mkay" lmao.
>>577240863Her everything is mediocre because they thought her item toss was going to be broken to balance it out. But the items are shit too and she throws them super slow
I really hope the next patch fixes my game completely. There are sets where me and my friend have literally zero lag and then there's times where it's an unplayable mess. This shit is so confusing to me. Before this update I couldn't play whatsoever so it's very close. But still not perfect. I've tried EVERYTHING short of upgrading my PC which may have to be the next step. Although I'm above the minimum requirements so i don't know.
>>577240863She got no mix dawg. Disregard anyone that posts airborne right/left mix it's all fake as fuck in this game. People will say "but frametrap!" in response to that, but they don't realize how strong 4L+A is yet; it completely invalidates any mix that has any gap, "frametrap" or not. Her projectile is kinda good but her RNG items are wack as fuck and inconsistent for oki. She could be a scrub killer of sorts because she has big ass buttons but she won't be useful at high level unless you're just cracked as fuck. I think you can get away with a low tier in this game if you're running a shell of at least 2 top tiers, but it's still a disadvantage given you only have one health bar.
Does anyone actually miss the Capcom side of things in this vs game? Like I sure miss Zero, morrigan, Dante, Vergil and umm....uhh...
>>577239143if having mix and movement makes you top tier, how is starlord not top? he has the EXACT same overhead and ex low as spiderman but also has storms fly, the ability to pull you out of the corner and fuck with your tech roll with EX grenade, and ice restands as well as the ability to give them to any character with assault assist
>>577241748peni has ground left right mix with her pendulum taking you out of the corner and tagging in, she also has wallcling gimmicki still think she's bad
>>577241905Starlords problem is that nobody actually gives a fuck about the guardians of the galaxy even if they were popular MCU movies.
>>577242394Meta whores dont give a fuck about shit like that. If he would be top tier he would be played. Id rather believe lab autismos than you fags.
>>577241905He works 3x harder to do all of that than other characters do. Fat Buu and Nappa had some of the grimiest, most fucking disgusting restand mixups in DBFZ that NOBODY is blocking but nobody played them because they're hard. Easy, clear top tiers will always beat out a super technical character that's basically as good.
>>577241793I think a capcom fighting game that was just capcom characters would also be cool. What if actually like to see though is a Street Fighter x Tekken X KoF game. Something completely nuts.
>>577237784I don’t think the dlc teams will make any fucking sense.
>>577242649I'm amazed we still haven't got CVS3. Just let snk handle the graphics. Seeing cotw and thinking "this is what sf6 should look like" pains me to no end.
>>577242559>He works 3x harder to do all of that than other characters do.buddy u put green goblin at the highest tier when he's potential man. starlord literally just presses jump H and specials that let him act in the air afterwards while pushing assists until he locks you down and then hits you with bullshit mix into bullshit setups
>>577242912>Seeing cotw and thinking "this is what sf6 should look like" pains me to no endYou should be pained if you think any SNK game looks remotely good
>>577242970Green Goblin ain't potential man no more the furfag is cooking with him as we spak
>>577242970Green Goblin isn't hard. Starlord can mix you but can he fullscreen projectile+assist you from fullscreen and instantly close the gap into a 50/50 like Shuri and Spidey can? No.
>>577243075COTW shits all over SF6, if you don't think so you're actually retarded.
>>577242750These don't seem like actual teams, but there are special names you get when you put certain teams together. Some of them are in the actual game like Dark Avengers but those other ones have no way to actually be put together as far as I know.
>>577242912There are constant rumors about this being in development and considering a fact that SF6 team has to work on something for a while means Capcom is probably cooking other fighting game. Since they already(unfortunately) dominated 1v1 market space then its 100% going to be tag/team game or some random ass shit like power stone. Theres a reason why SF6 has skeleton crew on it despite being so successful,there has to be something that team moved onto.
>>577242970goblin is no longer potential man, people have labbed the fuck out of him now
>>577243203Cotw has better models I will agree but only because SF6 has that semi-realistic uncanny valley thing going on, but cotw loses in everything else. The animation is choppy as fuck and the VFX looks like they came from a 2015 indie game.
>>577243375I meant purely about gameplay, not anything visually. SF6 does look better visually I agree.
>>577243221They will probably put special team names in the battlepass
>>577243221That makes way more sense. Releasing the fantastic four as a whole season seems like suicide. Piecemealing them across different teams makes way more sense.
>>577243174he can't get in quite as fast because he instead locks down way more of the screen with assist -> grenade + element gun and then gets to run/fly in behind all that from fullscreen
so samurai outriders is the canon story right?
>>577219623>>577237784>Defenders>IlluminatiBoth of these teams have Strange and Namor on them, hm.
>>577216517are you this good at like ... anything? No ? I thought so
She's way hotter when she's pretending to be evil
