Remember TI?https://www.dota2.com/patches/7.41ehttps://www.dota2.com/summerscrub2026>INFORMATION & GUIDESWiki: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:GameNews: https://dota2.com/newsPatches: https://dota2.com/patchesUpdates: https://dota2.com/news/updatesLore: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/LoreFor League players: https://dotabuff.com/learn/lolBug tracker: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota2-Gameplay/issuesX: https://x.com/dota2>STATISTICShttps://dota2protracker.com/https://dotabuff.comhttps://opendota.comhttps://stratz.comhttps://stats.spectral.ggPersonal game data: https://steamcommunity.com/my/gcpd/>ESPORTShttps://liquipedia.net/dota2/Portal:Esportshttps://datdota.comhttps://dota2.com/esportshttps://gosugamers.net/dota2Previous: >>576937867
>>577193786alive gaem
my nagas
Buff Hoodwink
how do you even talk topson out of retirement like >our child prodigy mid just got nuked>wanna fly over to all cmr spanish speaking team learn their rooster playstyle and get ready for TI on 72 hours? >Vituu T Topson
>>577194661>retirement topson played in the qualifiers
why do top linas refuse to take stun early? must have been 2 times artour's opponent could have killed him had he had stun
>>577195416Delay makes it unreliable, I suppose.
>>577195416They'd rather farm and trade right-clicks instead of going for a stun that is going to be dodged 90% of the time.
I haven't spoken to my online friend in two months because all he does is play this game all night after getting home from work. Just non-stop turbo queues.
>>577195731>90%try not being shit
>>577194661>"here's money. please play for us">"okay"Not that hard.
>>577194661They should've gotten RTZ, he would've carried
they should've gotten marci
>>577194661>roosteresl thirdie obsessed by topson
>>577195958Are you talking about the 10% who will get stunned or the 90% of stuns that miss?Anyway, context still matters. RTZ was probably standing in whatever position that he could've been stunned in and got away specifically because he knew there was no stun coming. If he knew they had a stun he wouldn't have been there in the first place. Or the trades that happened up to that point would've been different leading to a different situation altogether. These situations and early game laning strats don't happen in a vacuum.
https://www.twitch.tv/masondota2/clip/RacySpunkyYamImGlitch-RvJnxeUZO3HQX-PLwhyd he do it
>>577195931>Just non-stop turbo queuessadtell him to play ranked with you
mason is on the up and up and flourishing while artour is crashing out day after day. mason won
mierda TaiLung eras el elegido como te vas a hacer corromper por la plata ctmr
>>577196641what is wrong with this nigga
>>577195416waste of mp most of the time
>>577196870hes our guy
wheres the hype......
>>577198132no one really cares anymore only the first 5 or so TIs had soul now its boring and done and over with
>>577198432wrong, i carefuck off casual
>>577198627im better than u bro and could 1v1 you any hero and am a higher rank and have been playing longer and am good u suck
>>577198908then get hyped for ti you retard
>>577198985no
>>577199376then i dont give a fuck about a burn out's opinion
watch out its the thread goblin
>>577199792He's a little goblinHe's a little goobliin
>>577199792the one robbing us of ti hype?
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/361121405my highest rank was divine 2im playing with a 5 stack of friend with a solid carry a terrible off a mediocre 5 and a wildcard 4my goal is to win a battlecup but christ does dota feel like a totally different game when youre not playing solo
what is this, the 15th TI? who cares?
>>577200516>biggest tournament defining the dota 2 proffesional scene>who caresill tell you who caresfucking casual scrubs that dont ward or buy bkb
valve doesnt care
>>577200196yeah once i started playing on full stacks i appreciate pro players even moreeach year i find myself more and more attracted to TI
chat, i'm scared to queue next. MMR is gonna snap back like a rubber band.
Flopson first match is against falcons already 0-1 before landing is crazy work
>>577201620>linken over bkbwhats the mmr cant be above legend
>>577202896
fur boy gets carried in all of his games, look at those KDAs lmfao. dude is basically a bot
Anyone that is tuned on pro games can copy-paste their selection of wins/losses on the pro matches so I can copy it?Trying to win that map token.
>>577203810Nobody here won shit last year. You're better off doing your own research.
Lmao tailung was really running that bitch up 84k usd won on just one account
>>577204437Forgot the allegedly
My wife?!?!
>>577204437source?
>>577204684she looks like admiral bulldog
>>577204983astini posted allegedly proof of his accounts
>>577204684i actually think shes really cute also i like her floppy britoid tits
>>577205503I don't
>>577203050Linkens was just for Static Link and it didn't matter because the game ended like a minute later.
>doing really well in lane despite some mild griefing>mid starts to follow me and take my farm>offlane starts to follow me and take my farm>support even starts to follow me and take my farm>they dont do jack shit with it>we losei wonder what imaginary bullshit i must have done to warrant the rest of the team just siphoning all my money for absolutely no reason
>win>YOU GOT CARRIED>lose>IT'S ALL YOUR FAULTcope
sex with hoodwink
>go 12-0 in the laning phase as undying>still lose because carries always ALWAYS find a way to fuck upSTOP PICKING DROW RANGER IF YOU CAN'T PLAY HER YOU DROOLING MONGOLOID INDIAN DIPFUCKS
>>577208418>play the quintessential "win early lose late hero">complain when you lose late
>>577200818and yet valve puts up the money for the prize pool
>>577205945BASED furGOD dabbing on the thread bully
Hoodwink's tiny slot...
>beaner>AI profile pic>went 0-8 against OD in mid and spent the rest of the game griefingI need an all-white queue.
>>577209113Just imagine how tight she is, GOD it'd be like getting a bratwurst through a straw and you just KNOW she'd be stretchy enough to take it
>>577209154>8head slop with his name on the crownactually hilarious
Mid and carry are literally the only roles that matter this patch, just like the last like 20 patches.Support meta when?
>>577209750>
>>577193786>watching a coach go over a replay>"don't block the medium camp with a sentry this game for XYZ reasons"">ok coach I didn't know, thanks for explaining that">10 seconds later>"WHY IS THE SENTRY WARD STILL THERE I TOLD YOU TO GET RID OF IT">"coach this is a replay I didn't know at the time"Are dota coaches autistic?
>>577212336yeah most of them are and have big egos.
where the fuck is TI bros
0-2 on the day. I'm just gonna take my -50 MMR and go play something else, I guess.
>>577212336Only get coached by /d2g/ kings
Oh good I was waiting for this event
>>577212336should be fucking obvious when to block or not block the campwhy would you need a coach
https://voca.ro/18elVQEo9XCU
>>577212336genuinely why would you ever consider coach/coaching if its not with a friend just to teach them the basics, literally just watch immortal replays and you will get the same value, you can even do player POV to see what they are seeing, idgi
hopefully people keep the same energy better call out every 322 play this TI
my friends want to play the HALO REMAKE of all games but I want to PLAY DOTA. HALO IS SO BORING ITS 20 YEARS OLD and the remake is shit! Dota is so much better goddamnit
i wonder how many niggas are aware that the average peruvian earns about 400-500 dollars per month, tailung was earning more than 5k dollars per month and on top of it he had high chances of earning even more in better teamsthis 322 is peak below 2 digits iq or straight up jewness no jew in history has ever reached. LGD went beyond that hypothetical retardation by searching his private phone as if someone who is deep into the 322 mafia would use his main phone to communicate with his boss lmaoalso everyone is calling him out with the harshest words they can come up with like trying their hardest to be seen as virtuous good guysthe situation is very strange and i dont think he did it for money he probably got blackmailed with something really shameful or something
>>577217876I dont think anyone cares about the pro scene anymore
crazy very funny how a lot of these 322 artist came up in OG like lets lay it all out there
>>577217876Sponsored dota and paid Dota are probably on their absolute death bed
Let's play Guess The Positions dota 2 general!!!!!
>>577219669The positions are right there, herald retard.
whos gonna play aion 2 with me in september? all games that end with 2 end up being godlike, dota 2, planetside 2, half life 2, lineage 2, there's probably more
>>577219059there is already 3 million in prize pool committed to 2027 and that is only from one orgkeep screeching doomshitter
>>57721973940 minutes of wasted life later I forgot the exact contents of the image, I'll never recover from this anonymous post
There's no way you guys actually thought the typing minigame was hard, right?
82k usd off of one bet you would be dumb not to run it up
>last treasure used upi'll NEVER get the QoP skin now... NEVER...i need to make a new account
ALLOW ME TO BUY 3 AGHANIM SCEPTERS!!!>I WANT TO HAVE CATACLYSM!>I WANT TO HAVE MINI TORNADOES!>I WANT TO HAVE VECTOR ICE WALL!ALLOW TO BUY 3 AGHANIM SHARDS!!!>I WANT TO HAVE SUNSTRIKE FORGE SPIRITS!>I WANT TO HAVE EMP PULL AND BURN!>I WANT TO HAVE RADIANCE GHOST WALK!LET ME BUY NOTHING BUT AGHANIM! LET ME BE THE ARSENAL MAGUS!!!
>>577220921it will get banned for abuse
I need to start playing again to do complete this new event, but with dota you always need to find your groove before pick up the game again and queueing
>>577221215go play deadlock like valve wanted you to do
>>577221294I dont enjoy playing shooters, they hurt my frail wrists
>get mentally ill rusnig mid>lose
Supports that don't just feel like 0 impact "Mash all your spells in a teamfight before dying and hope your team wins" characters?
>>577200516i enjoyed my 15th birthday as much as my 8th one
I'm appearing offline and I just got into a game with my buddy.... I told him I had to go for the night... how do I salvage this lol
>>577200726casuals dont play the game anymore lil bro
>secret shop is through aliexpress this year>cant even see the catalogue without making an accoutright then
>>577224264say its insomnia
>>577217876why do you think the third world is the way it is?
>>577225313as if amerimutts wouldn't/didn't matchfix before, or slavs, taiga is norwegian and he matchfixed as well
HULIGANI SWEEP
ACCEPT THE FUCKING MATCH. I see you declining it. You're not gonna get a better lobby. There's only like 30 people on this server at this time.
Like it or not, America is dota. Americans made valve, Americans made the internet, and americans made dota 2. Show some respect.
Wow, declined match 10 times only to accept the most toxic one. What a winner.
Why cant someone make an up to date dota 2 ai bot to talk about guides and possible item builds and hero interactions and shit?
>getting hit by instant double combo flux and wraiths all gameliterally how hard could it be to detect this shit
>>577227324that would be very easy to make actually, no one would do it because you can't profit off of it, it would have to be a community collaborative work but, if you teach everyone how to play dota suddenly all the games become way harder to win too so it's not going to happenI have about 300GB off of dota 2 videos from pros that were hosted in this danish site a few years ago teaching aspects of dota, if I had the hardware I could train an AI to study them and summarize everything answer my questions, even as I play, tell me what to do, etc, it's doable
It's probably a few years away when you just run an overlay program or some headset powered by AI that just tells you what to do for every move. Like you're laning and it just tells you what to do... hit the hero, deny the creep, go for the last hit, im sure it wouldnt be that hard to do.
Tells you what hero to pick, tells you which lane to go, tells you what items to get, what skill build, where to go on the map, your probability of getting ganked, where the enemy could be farming, when to use spells and ult, maps you the perfect farming pattern.
>>577227808you're also not a toddler so you dont need to be spoonfed that hard, the AI benefit would be telling you what item to build next because enemy is build XYZ itens, etcyou can also learn to play the game which is much better, but AI would be an amazing training tool to git gud at the game, for sure
>Secret shop is literally aliexpress shitcannot make this up.
>>577226007lmao you really not trying to win
what "killed" dota was the pandemic and then the russian war, dota needs a big stadium and a big prizepool to get attention outside our community and the pandemic killed itand then the russian war, dota has always be a majority russian game, and the europeans can't stop whining about russians for the last 5 years while doing everything they can to keep this war goingand then we had something really weird which is dota doesn't make new celebrities, we're still on the back of arteezy and topson after all these years, miracle- disappeared, yapzor disappeared, puppey is washed and never streamed, the pro scene has no faces that would attract sponsorships because everyone that is good at the game and young is russianwe really need this stupid war to end and then I think dota can totally pick itself up, valve can relaunch the battlepassthe game itself is still one of the most fun games ever made, it's competitive, there's lots of tension when you play it, it's exciting
>>577229017when in china be chinese
this mousepad is fucking coolaliexpress.com/item/1005012834447200.html
>>577230086lmao think about it dota doesnt have a personality like tyler1 but that war is essentially russian vs russian pretty crazy when you think about it
uhmmm can i win a fucking game today? please. literal griefing retards on my team every game.
>>577230086it is weird theres no new celebs, and yeah i agree with everything you said. we are still seeing the effects of covid and everything it did to the world, the insane thing is that its been nearly 7 years. jesus
it's a retarded war so nato can keep expanding indefinetly until it borders russia, breaching the agreement they had in the 90s when they said they weren't going to expand east, it's really sad how untrustworthy nato is and how they pretend this is not what's going on
marci toyaliexpress.com/item/1005009708681085.html
>>577230978lmao ok rusnig
>>577230978lmao who are the best people to fight russians other russians nasty work from nato but since im a nigga this doesn't really concern me
Wait are you serious???? Valve has BILLIONS of dollars and are using the cheapest Chinese garbage out there/? Cmon man why does everything just keep getting worse and worse. I'm so tired of it all this world sucks...
>>577231340they shouldn't be fighting each other, we're in 2026, no one should be fighting anyone else, but amerikkkans/israeli are bloodthristy monsters
So did valve just completely realize that E-sports wasn't profitable at all? Why do they still even host tournaments for dota and csgo? There must be some financial incentive.
>>577231931the tournaments are the marketing budget for those games
If shipping wasnt that expensive, i would totally get the courier bag. What is this captcha dude, is like that kung pow movie with all those triangles
>>577231931Cs is for sure profitable dota because of legacy deadlock will be the next one
>>577232034makes sense, its just kind of depressing. they are so fucking loaded and could do anything, they used to be a really cool company. I guess it makes sense to just do nothing and play it safe, the steam store prints them billions
>>577231454>when the funko pop is low in qualitythe west has fallen
>>577232197I don't give a shit about buying some toys, I just find it funny one of the richest companies in the world half asses it with some chinese trash.
>>577231931esports proved to not be a sustainable business practice, whats the point of sustaining a whole industry with profits you make from other ventures when you get basically close to no return from it and many of the people in said industry are directly antagonistic towards you? >ohhh but valve has infinite money from steam bro! They could give back to the playersBrother the dota 2 playerbase largely doesnt give a fuck about esports, thats the lesson learnt from removing the cosmetic incentives from the BP. It was all just about the ingame rewards not supporting the players and the scene
>>577231454Do you not remember the first baby roshan or something?
>>577232138I would buy maybe some keychains for $5 or whatever, but everything is $20+
>>577232138the captcha gets easier as you post more, but if you delete cookies you're back to the 4 stage IQ test captchas
>>577232452no i had a brain injury a few years ago and forgot a lot of stuff, what happened (im serious btw)
Think about it who is the face of dota
>>577232854for the real dota chads it's puppey, for the chuddie zoomers it's topson, there is no one else even close to these two as of today
>>577232854For me it was always Dendi
>>577231540Sagan Gato
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DXSfu4MpA4Watch this and compare it to modern dota. Just like everything else in this garbage post-covid world there's no soul left. Dota is finished.
Offlane is such a trash role, not because it's difficult. The heroes are just shit. The fuck am I supposed to do with mars, bristle or cent? They can't push, they can't kill anyone, everyone and their dog will get break and melt them, oh you're "tanking" for your team, yeah right. Zero flexibility or impact, you're just a big walking target. Enjoy your 2/9/12 games.
>>577233375Play a real hero like Chaos Knight or Wraith King
>>577233375if you just want to be the epic main character pick the usual suspects from offlane, necro, WK, CK and go on epic rampages
>>577194661>"Topson! You son of a bitch">*Manly Handshake*>"I'm in"
>>577233375>muh k/dGo play Cawadooty if you actually give a shit about that.
>>577233375u're just bad, buy a blink dagger and hunt their carry with your support or just play another carry in the offlane
>>577233617>with your supportohohohohohahahahaheh
>>577232597>Billion dollar company with filled with genius level intellect dev's finest work outsourcing to manufacture the finest quality toy statue
I hate the plebbit birb. So much.
>>577233868Kez it up
>>577233736top kek that is terrible, looks like some cheap 3d print.
>>577233868always report kez pickersmost of them touch children
>>577233617I'm sorry my support is busy farming jungle with no tp in their inventory.
>>577234391just play weaver or windrunner in the offlane and buy a maelstrom and gank people alone then
Why even make a ticket system if every single requirement on the entire train is Star, Lovers and Fool with a couple hermits and magicians thrown in for flavorI don't even remember the last time I needed an emperor card
so who is the strongest hero lore-wise... faceless void can stop time and stuff hes gotta be up there
>>577234891arc warden
>>577234891Elder Titan created the entire universeWeaver created and oversees the timeline where the universe takes placeIt's weaver with no contest whatsoever, he canonically could end the war of the ancients but just doesn't because reasons. He could end all of existence with as much effort as it would take to cut into a sock with a pair of scissors. He shouldn't even be in the game
Lord English solos all of Dota
Wow so tailung is innocent after all? What a plot twist
>>577219669is that turbo or low prio?
>>577233602kek
>>577219669Kino, my favorite part in all of this is that they still believe their team is holding them down.
>>577235135thats pretty cool lore desu
>>577236360you can check out pudge explain on youtube its ai slop but it covers exactly your question and yeah arcwarden/weaver
>>577236478no it's not "arc warden / weaver" it's just weavernobody comes close to weaverthe universe of dota 2 exists because weaver wants it to, literally. His lore is that the other weavers wanted him to keep working on repairing the main timeline but he said no i'm going to make my own timeline with blackjack and hookers and that's the timeline where the dota 2 multiverse startedthe ancients are isopods in weaver's terrarium
Thoughts?
>>577234891my furry wife hoodwink
>>577237072Ok Boomer
>>577237072impressivevery nicelet see the accounts before that one
>>5772199393 million is a teeny tiny amount of money
>>577237072keep spamming dusa clearly you only know how to farm creeps
I HATE LOSS QUEUE I HATE LOSS QUEUE I HATE LOSS QUEUE I HATE LOSS QUEUE I HATE LOSS QUEUE I HATE LOSS QUEUE I HATE LOSS QUEUE I HATE LOSS QUEUE
>>577193786do you guys enjoy playing solo
>>577238047PSG here, I can tell this guy is bad at dotaPSG out
>>577238093I don't enjoy anything about this shitty monkey filled game.
the eve of TI who yall got winning this 322 tournament
lmao why does yatoro have boobs
No shot. Forced-50 beating my ass into submission.
ded nigga game for ded niggas
>>577238047Imagine playing this dogshit game before valve makes a public announcement about overhauling the report system
My teammates have 50 deaths between them, and yet /d2g/ will say I'm the problem.
What is this idiot obsession with carry venge? Whose fault is this? Its literally worse than abba3
>>577242975What about guys who take venge 3 then play as carry
Tailung drama got more hype than TI
you guys hyped for TI?haven't been back for dota since last years>>577233327glorious daysand that was only like the third year we had a good ~4 years more after that
>>577238157PSG here, I'm brown and trans btwPSG out
>>577245439I'm always here for TI even though I haven't touched dota for over a year.
>>577237724Farming creeps is Aryan though
>Enemy has high impact (burst damage and mobility) heroes that can win by themselves like void spirit, arc warden, kez, night stalker>We have... AA pos5, mid bounty hunter and earth spirit pos3 (he cannot do anything because he has no levels)I don't get why some heroes are allowed to shit on everything like that.Like cool epic the ferrari demon bat with AOE silence around him, a shitton of HP/damage and flying vision can also fly over trees and cliffs so you can't catch him after he blinked on your supports and murdered them.Meanwhile I'm playing an ice mage that moves at the speed of a glacier and whose ultimate will be instantly interrupted by 60% of the hero pool unless I farm a blink bkb and aghs and even then I can get bashed out of it. I have a passive that will block damage from half an auto attack every time I cast a spell, nice! Epic! Oh dang here comes the demon bats he two-shot me again, cool.How is this shit fair? How can anyone be expected to reliably win games unless they're playing those kind of heroes that require unreasonable team coordination (at low elo) to be countered?
>>577245439>The base prize pool of the tournament is $1,600,000 USD.>you guys hyped for TI?It used to be good and hyped because of insane prize pool. Now it's just a regular tournament. People are as hyped as they were for blast slam VIII
>do well as pos1>"Luna you're lucky our veno was shit and fed you, otherwise you're a noob, enjoy your scuffed win"Why am I catching strays I literally didn't do anything lmao
>>577247125can only speak for myself but I don't think the current state dota and the dota scene is worthy of such a big prize pool.back then for me dota was the ultimate test of team strategy, and _the_ competition, and it had the personalities to back it upnow counter-strike has kind of taken that spot for me. I think their developers over the years were clever and didn't tinker with the formula too much
>>577247559you're crusader
>>577247125TI10... 41 million dollar prize pool... home...
>>577247657haven't played in yearsthe game is unrecognizable to me so I would probably be dunked on by 10 year olds
>>577247559I really don't know what you're on about but you sound like you don't even play. Refer to the official statistics and data, the last 12 months have been very strong for Dota 2 in terms of numbers and profit. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean the product is officially bankrupt.It's the same as crying about classic WoW being peak, no one cares, retail is racking up numbers and profit. You're but a fart in the wind to them.
>>577247935>>577247559>can only speak for myselfi haven't looked at any data. if people are happy with the game & the scene then good for them good luck to you
Pro players buy $4k worth of cosmetic per hero then play on lowest settings for fps
Isn't wow classic doing way better than the regular game
>>577248240>game turns into a mess of golden boys shooting golden particles at eachotherGenuinely hurts the game, the base hero models are better than half the cosmetics anyway
>>577248323Not at all
chinks saved dota
>>577248376I'm of two mindsgenerally I think people who think they're too good for glossy bling bling shit in video games are being stupid, it's a game, you can be tacky and brass, no need to be a snobon the other hand it gets really fucking excessive when every slot on a hero has particlesthen on the other other hand I barely even care about most hero designs in the game, they're ugly and lame, so might as well dress them up so I can't seem them anymore on the map lmao
>>577248748lmao how pgl is going to rig them a great bracket tho
>>577248748we're gonna have a eu vs eu final again and the venue will be empty
>play against a very strong early to mid-game team>we are winning the early game>"ok bros, now we just need to chill and farm and we will win the game, don't fight or go alone until our items are ready">spirit breaker feeds 19 times giving stacks to pudge like crazy>loseI don't get these retards ngl
>>577249225china is 100% winning this time around
>>577249682as long as falcons doesn't ion care who does
only way to save Dota is to let gacha character designers remodel every hero
Are there gonna be youtube streams for TI? I don't care for twitch it sucks
>>577250263The chat is like the best part of the experience.
>>577250263yes
>>577250260Or simply add more heroes like QoP and less whimsical pixar animals
>>577250431>more heroes like QoPyou mean man faced crackwhores? pass lol
>>577250260Sorry anon, every single good animator and artist is currently working on Deadlock, best we can do is giving you overdesigned chink cosmetic #12341 from the workshop.
We need more furry heroes actually
>>577250431The game just needs more skank-hoe cosmetics.
Do you ever play Magnus as pos1/2/3? Seems like a waste to me.
>>577250690brother I've seen the deadlock characters and there aren't any good artists working there lol
>>577251191I like the little rat with a pointy hat, it's cute, they could throw that in dota no problem
>>577251619hahahahah that has nothing to do with my initial ask dude
>>577251191The first characters are just testing placeholders.Some of them are extremely well animated and are filled with subtle details that really show how much effort they are putting into making Deadlock their newest cashcow.
>>577250690deadlocks character design is actually really good
>>577251967their pronouns are even better
Opening match predictions guys? Any upsets tomorrow?
>>577252037>still parroting this talking pointEvery single character that actually knows Pocket calls him a he, he was canonically supposed to marry Mina."They" refers to the fact that he's 3 characters in one, the guy, the cloak and the magical briefcase.
>>577252307dog i have 9k hours in dota and i don't even like the lore here, you expect me to know shit about a game i'll never play because it's ugly?
for a few days now in turbo there has been a HUGE increase of "stomp or get stomped" games/ wtf happened? and I never play ranked, but according to dotabuff I'm ancient/divine.
>>577252383You certainly care about the presumed identity politics of it thoughbeit
Is antimage a light skin nigga
>>577250690Valve has never had good artists, animators or modellers working thereThey have good graphic engine engineers and other technical talents but their visuals always fall shortDeadlock's models are average, the animations too, same with a lot of Dota's except some of the new heroes/arcanas
>make infinite money with qop/wr arcanas and am personas>never add any more women after that, just furshit nobody likessplendid move nigga splendid move
>>577253829they added an lc persona
>>577255189i do not appreciate your poor attempts at comedy
>>577253615which developer makes good animations?
>queue game>entire team take turns disconnecting >lose all outer towers uncontested by 15min>people tilted before heroes are picked >everyone drawing dicks and spaztikas on map or using it as chat because they are muted>gg report whichever hero they just saw die>entire team muted for the remaining match>all wards purchased and placed, near fountain, all game>people baiting each other into fights, ping them and spam well played as they are butchered>people stealing each others stacks and body blocking each others camps>enemy am finally cracks after 55min and destroys all items>go end the game and win mmrim so fucking good at this game
MY PRESIDENT
>>577232854arteezy and dendi were the ones to put dota on the map. but dendi faded away fast so artour
>>577237072>1.2k and 1.3k gpm average on dusa and muertawhats going on here
>>577259423Turbo
Reaper's scythe should disable buyback
I wanna play Oracle but I'm scared of being shit. I also don't understand the 39-45 starting damage.
any 95th percenters in chat?
>>577255493s2 games used to >>577230086>>577230978dota is a nato game though
>>577260102mirin your mid bannermy core and mid banner are very meh, both salvaged by one 300% stat eachmy support banner is fat as fuck though, 3x 300% with good statssadly from using the calculator apps, a meh mid banner does better than a 100% fully packed support banner
man whats the point of this fantasy shit if you got nerds making apps and minmaxxing every single thing and copying each other's predictions
>>577261816listen faggot if I don't get the purple drow I will fucking KILL MYSELF
Silver Edge and Break overall is too OP it needs to be toned downsame for Spirit Vessel
>carry last picks AM into Axei euthanize
>>577259956just stack & pullspam nuke & purgeedict good on yourself, beware of using it on your carryfollow them around & play saving fucking retards in the mid game
anyone have the quinn batrider edit
wher da ti hype
>>577264224gone man. sorry
>>577264224No TI this year>>577259047Jinxed by the ewc win
asian TIs should be forbiddenhow are you alienating your biggest audience with these dogshit times on a WEEKDAY
>>577265607the biggest audience is russia
>>577265719which is where anon?
>>577265762not in central europe
>>577265762in russia
>>577193786huh why is Fear not attending TI?>Fly, Saberlight, and Monkeys as analystWho gives a fuck about them? Give us Fear.
Fuck this one had me clenching the PA was too fat
>>577250260Dota doesn't need saving, it's still raking in tons of money, and it's still the third or second most played on Steam.
>>577267326I think posters who doom about the game sunsetting just don't realize that there's been a demographic change and now the portion of third worlders playing the game has grown while westerners aged out. And young westerners are more into Riot games like League and Valorant because their friends play it and it's more beginner friendly and casual. Game isn't dead on a global scale, it's like when how all the industries in the west moved to China, there's still production on a global scale, just not in the right places
>>577267268are you a cute nerd parisian girl that is into latinos? also>that axe neutralsim seeing that way too often people keeping tier 1 neturals until late game/end there is no meta where 5 return damage is better than the alternatives
>>577264224chink TI lol this will be dreamleague tier
no see you're actually fucking stupid and retarded if you miss TI being massive and don't like the hyperfocus on shitty lore written by furry artists from tumblrstupid chud
>>577267916You don't have to sign your posts.
>>577267745Chipped vest past T3 items is definitely a shitter's delight
>>577268110you're a real moron you know that
when was the last time you saw a troll warlord
>>577268463There's a guy in my pool who spams Troll he's got like 800 troll gamesWhat I don't see anymore is Sven
Someone give me info to fill in for this faggot TI nonsense. The e-sports is easily the shittiest part of this game and I could not be bothered to know a single literal who team or player. I just want some free shit and MAYBE MAAAAAYBE a terrain token if I'm lucky. Something nice to spice up my constant turbo/ability draft matches.
>>577268581Sven is getting a gapcloser next patch
>>577268784I could see the Aghs becoming the Shard. Same for Ursa, these carries who have to patiently farm a blink are really out of date
Please give me your predictions group stage I don't follow pro scene at all
should i chinese-ify my sleep schedule to watch TI?
Man my core rolls are so ASS
>Lion mid on team>lose
>>577266059the majority of russians live in GMT+2 Chinese TIs are always bad for viewership. Particularly now that nobody plays the game in China due to mobile games
in 2018 I used to go Troll mid with like shadow blade orchidyou can't do that anymore. because of woke.
I fucking HATE it when pos5 are not there when the waves meet at lvl1 because they don't want to spend their tps. Either you have to stand back like a cuck and watch the offlaner get essentially a free first wave or try to contest / aggro the creeps back to you and take a ton of dmg for no reason.
dota never recovered from the downward projectory from getting rid of Grubby. As a community we should have boycotted Jenkins from everything.
>>577273783kek remind me what did jenkins do
ok guys the big map experiment is over now right haha after ti right
>>577274157trolled grubby
>>577274157Pretended to be BSJ for months and gave grubby bad advice and builds
Why do people call chinese players 'communists' on the asian servers? It seems kind of tame/non-insult no?
>>577261371300% wards, smokes and teamfight for supports is 1/3 away from top 1.5k my man. the only thing that matters for mid is runes grabbed and teamfight, the red can go anywhere not named madstone collected. I still will re-roll my core's green into teamfight but I've heard that a really good game can get you higher score value from roshan vs tf.>>577262061kek. I missed last year's fantasy and I'm kicking myself in the head. Lion and Shaman's immortals are now forever lost, at least the purple colorway.>>577270021all that matters is Pari, Yandex, Falcons/BoomBoys for the top 3. GamerLegion, TR and Huligani for bottom 3. the rest is up to you.>>577271569you got runes for mid and smokes for support but the rest, that's rough my man.
Is Pure playing on Tundra again? Russians are always better when they are fighting for Israel.
>>577275027>TundraDoes he know?
>>577274531dota players are truly retardedwho was the player that was coaching him, that randomly decided to insult him by telling him that he's not very good at the game...yeah dip shit that's exactly why he has you coaching him live on his streamJust like this anon's experience >>577212336 dota brain moment from knowing absolutely nothing about life besides dotaI'm not even a Grubby fan but he's arguably one of the reasons e-sports is even a thing, that coach wouldn't have a dota career without him especially since dota is a warcraft mod
>>577274998>he believes in og
Is yandex really that good tho? I get that they have a record but they look like nonames.Also remember how VP would shart at TI every time. seems to be a CIS thing, Team Spirit are the only ones who could ever break out
>>577265607that's my bedtimejfc valve
Spamming one hero is really op it seems
>>577274859it's because they are "technically" communistcommunism doesn't work as an economic model which is why China is communist in name only. They were smart enough to become capitalist (with some socialist polices) and improve the ever loving fuck out of their country at a super fast pace.
How do I avoid dying so much constantlyOther guys seem to just teleport on top of me and I just die all the time
>>577275309suck dick
>>577275503you show saksa some respect
i miss grubby
>>577275689I still don't get why everyone was hyping up this mouthbreather.
>>577275657and also because SEA countries have had decades of red scare like propaganda and military regimes in the likes of indonesia, the philippines, singapore
>>577275675Did Grubby fuck your mom, anon?
>>577275850no but he is clearly your dad
still remain convinced that grubby shilling was blizzdrones last attempt at getting a morsel of relevance
>>577245504>PSG>BrownUnfortunately he's white
>>577276001Your daddy anon, you're the one thinking about sucking his dick, unprompted. Fucking faggots I swear.
>>577276549and you considered him fucking your mom unpromptedlmaoi can wash the taste of dick out of my mouth but grubby will ALWAYS be you daddy
>>577274531The fact he did it for the love of the game and never turned it into YouTube video is incredible.
Why is it that teleporting into someone else's lane whenever they need it and are dying is some kind of immortal move? Literally every single time I do it either that or gank mid the enemy team is never ever ready for it and are surprised by it every single time? I'm not even Herald anymore and it still catches people by surprise every time I do it. And it also seems like I am the only player in the game who actually considers tping in to different lanes than my own after dying. Am I just really intelligent or are dota players braindead mongoloids?
>>577275669>Other guys seem to just teleport on topstop >hanging around enemy towers>pushing solodo>read the minimap>buy defensive items
>>577277356youre just low mmr
>>577277570I'm crusader 4 people should be at least somewhat aware of the fact that it is a possibility.
>>577276953he fucked your mom anon, not mine, keep up
>>577277778keep telling yourself that, son of grub
I wouldn't be surprised if the main event is luscious asf, China has national pride and likes to project it so some international esports event is the perfect opportunity to do it. It'll definitely be better than the Europe ones or that one they did in a fucking singaporean mall lmao
Been watching rtz stream for a couple of weeks now. If he ever returns to pro-dota he needs to play pos 1 mid and the pos 2 should be in the safe lane. I feel like this is the only way for him to not tilt into throwing, and he was at his best when he played a farming mid at the start of his career.
Man heroes like KotL and LD are straight up not fun to play against, they're just as bad as Tinker
>>577277734>I'm crusader 4
>>577278153>give a level advantage to the guy whos gonna spend the next 25 minutes farming creeps and making 0 movesgreat idea coach, team may be good enough to do some match fixing in a tier 3 tournament
>>577278052meh there have been plenty of events held in China and they had a previous International in Shanghai in 2019. I always feel like the Chinese events are a little lack luster compared to the western events. The Chinese events tease like there's going to be some big announcement at their events, with orchestras, and dancers, and then the finals happen and everyone goes home. Western events are goofy and wholesome.
>>577278608im tired of the caster cabal, they've been doing the same friend group simulator sthick for like half a decade now. I remember that ESL major dota had in texas where the host was a CS guy that barely knew anything about dota and that was actually an entertaining event
>>577278410he joins fights though he doesn't spend 25 minutes ricing, he's very active and has excellent map awareness, does a good job of calling enemy hero movement, just watch his stream. Dude needs to be mid, one a team that gives him farming priority he'll shine. I have no idea why he insists on safe lane, it just tilts him.
>>577275689
>>577278153>I remember >RTZ Terrorblade mid
Why do I get a riki mid. Who even picks this shit
>>577278970>one a teamon a pro-team
Who is going to meet Windrunner in real irl
>>577278346What's the issue?
>>577275669wardlook at map and figure out where they could becommon sense - don't overextendbuy a couple bracers or force staff / ethereal / eul
>>577278958It's always been a friend group. It's why retards like Treant can still cast games.
>>577279419
>>577279552they are only friends because of the work thoughwhich is why new friends like quinn fit in so quickly
thoughts?
The schedule for TI is awful for Europeans.
>>577273783What the fuck are you talking about? That retard was obviously trying his hardest to ingrain himself into a celebrity status, pretending to be all suprt good vibes and PMA because he was getting boosted by pros. The second he reached a high rank he started sperging out and showing his toxic self because he could no longer micro his way into a free win.
>>577275503Saksa is easily the best pos 4 out there and it isn't even close.
>>577281405boohoo, the last ti was in yurop
>>577281027BASED
>>577237072u r n00b.can I only get those filters with dota+?
>>577282713thank you, hoodwink
ngl I’m semi hyped
lads i went to the grocery store and saw this perfectly shaped hot piece of huzz with stomach exposed and ass hanging out of denim shorts that i'm ready to commit ritualistic suicide in hopes that i happen to trigger some secret combination that ensures that my immortal soul escapes the cycle of reincarnation and gets spread into nothingness like thick foam on top of a cup of espresso
>>577283567just a have a wank m8
>>577275669just walk backnever be at the front line
>>577245667Afk farming is for the english speaking white manBrooling is brown coded
>>577281027even bradley dragon had higher mmr before he became homeless
>>577281027welcome to doters.
>>577281506Calm down Jenkins
Call me a herald retard butSo in Smite and League everyone is supposed to ward and people who said that only supports buy wards are retard shittersBut it feels like that's ACTUALLY what people are like in Dota, so should I be buying wards as a carry or not?
>>577265607Falcons better not let lgd win
>>577275669turn on your monitor.instead of getting mad think about how they did that and why they did that and try to not give them the same setup again.can't really get specific without replays though. just post some webm.
my mid said a lot of awful stuff then profusely apologized
>Just never show up on the map bro>Just never farm lane creeps and get 20 gold per minute in the jungle bro
>>577284290obs are literally freea sentry is 1 creepyeah go get them
>>577284290you're not buying anything bro they're free
>>577284290if your support is n00b then buy them yourself, ping them so everybody knows you just bought them, and then place them.
Eh well forced loss day
>>577281405 wdym? morning dotes is fun NA have it worse
>>577284805I feel like pinging them is bad and that you should just stealth buy them because if not the supports will rage fill their inventories with all the wards in the shop and waste them at some point
>>577281027ChaosGAWD
>>577275669Think about what you would do if you were in the enemy's shoes. What if you were stronger than the enemy? You'd probably be on their half of the map, looking for kills. What if you were much stronger? Then you'd probably be doing Rosh or Torm. If you were much weaker, you wouldn't be looking for fights, you'd be farming or perhaps even split pushing. If you can apply that logic to yourself, you can apply it to the enemy.Also I'm not exaggerating when I say I glance at the map at least once every 2 seconds. You'd be surprised how often you'll catch a glimpse of the enemy's portrait on the map after they show for 0.1 seconds and if you see their ganking position 4 on your half of the map, you can probably assume he's not by himself. Especially if they have a global hero of some kind, then every enemy on the map is actually +1. Same with structures, since people can TP to those every structure is also structure +number of enemy alive and with TP scrolls.Finally if you have wards on the map and there's no enemy there, that information is just as useful as knowing where the enemy is. You have 3 wards in their jungle and no one is there? Excessive, but if they aren't in their jungle, what else could they be doing?
>>577284973haven't had that happen but I've also not been pisslow for decades so idk.by the time you reach divine and higher you actually have to fight people to buy wards, shit's always out of stock unless you have some shitskins on both supports who ran out of role queue tokens and are hardstuck.
>>577285384>What if you were stronger than the enemy? You'd probably be on their half of the map, looking for killsI wouldn't actually, because if I was stronger than the enemy it wouldn't matter because no gold lead is going to stop 2 supports from teleporting on top of me and chain stunning me for 10 full seconds while their carry collects bounty gold off me and I completely throw my lead, so I would continue to farm my own jungle
>>5772849738 thousand hours of this game and I've never had that happen. The other anons are right, obs are free, sentries are cheap, just buy them. If it's too dangerous to place them yourself just drop them in the fountain for the supports to pick up, or type, or get on the mic and ask your team to group up in a smoke to go ward/deward. Going on a tangent, It sounds crazy but I kind of miss rage buying the flying courier as carry back in the day lol.
>>577285626it is a very common occurence in herald that someone will complain about there being no wards or and one of the supports will spam buy every ward in the shop to go "FINE, SEE, I'm BUYING THEM!"
>>577285384map is good advice. I basically only look at the map unless I'm micromanaging the wave (so laning stage) or a fight. I know most other people don't because I always catch wards on the map that people miss looking at something else. there's a lot of downtime you'll be able to stare at the map while you just move through the map, or auto attack some farm.it's how I saw AM here and was ready to blink on him. camera was on the fight but I knew AM was top side somewhere, was glancing at map and fight deciding how to re-engage and to see if AM would show up or keep farming, so I caught him like the n00b he is. >>577284462
>Topson is bigger than everyone elseTop kek, probably took his mugshot of some old pic he had. How fucked is LGD?Will they go 0-4?
fix him
>>577286982lower BAT
>>577273783>downward projectoryeslprobably a mouthbreather too, just like his idol
>>577286791they're not going 0-4 with gamerlegion there
>>577285562>I acknowledge that supports will TP to counter rotate, making it dangerous for me, while if I was a support, it's a good source of gaining gold and protecting my territory >I acknowledge that if I were a core, I would just continue to AFK farm jungle instead of risk myself, meaning the enemy core is actually AFK jungle farming aloneOnce you start acting on this knowledge you'll get to Legend easily
medusa fells like shit ever since she was reworked and i'm still mad
>>577287115bat is better at mid
>>577287324many such cases in the land of nu dota
>>577287193No they're not "alone", nobody is ever fucking "alone" in this game. If you can't stun and kill someone in less than a second 5 people WILL instantly show up to kill you. Walking into the enemy jungle is just killing yourself, lead or not.
we used to be a sticky
>>577288052>i need validation from sticky touristscouldnt be me
wow so im gonna have to stay up all night to watch these games that are in china, thanks valve...and by stay up all night, I mean not even watch them because its too late
>>577288204validate this sticky bih
>>577288532You're not the target audience. Go to bed.
>games are either a stomp where mistakes are forgiven and feels too easyor>its impossibly hard no matter the effort rare is the match were i feel it can go both ways and that is unfortunately where the fun is
>>577288616i'm a millennial and have money to spend, valve should be serving me these games on a silver platter so I buy their toys and stuff.
Why is TI in China again
>>577288810because americans dont play dota and fuck europe
>>577286982just go manta and trap peoplehow hard is it?
>>577287584>nobody is ever fucking "alone" in this gameIncluding yourself with your teammates, play with them and then you'll be able to stun and kill someone in less than a second
>>577288810valve knows that the age of the white man is over in dota. note: russians aren't white.
>>577289413>just follow the cats around competing for gold as they aimlessly farm jungle camps You don't fucking understandEvery single fucking enemy team has real support players who literally just sit in the fucking trees and watch their carries farm waves for MINUTES at a time while I don't even fucking know what mine are doing because they sure as hell don't have any fucking gold
>>577288810Because they can't do Russia and SA is too poor.
>>577237072
>>577286982Illusions can cast spells
>>577289852>All his illusions visually send 12 chaos bolts at the guy>only one does damageVolvo please fix
>>577289660>my team badThe only hope is to get on the mic and give comms
>>577275741Because grubby is genuinely cool guy and he's pretty much a living time relic from old vidya days with LAN parties and saying "noob" unironically
>>577275669Do you die in lane, or are you getting caught farming alone often, or are you dying in teamfights too much?
>>577290853the guy isnt even 40 years old and has made the career choice of farming his early fame for viewsits a genuinely lame guy and someone who is avoided at social functionsyou want my respect? get a real job
>Support is late to the lane>Dies to the pos 4>Blames (me) for his retardation>Spends the rest of the game farming aghs then right click items and not even doing the bare minimum when it comes to obs/sents/smokes/dusts>Still managed to win because the enemies were huge retards alsoGhouls just love to make games as excruciatingly tedious as possible
>>577291750I dont even get why some of these people queue up the game when they don't have winning in mind. Just being dead weight on other people's experience
>>577291570but youre a nobody so who cares about your respect
I drive an $80,000 BMW. I am a top rank in dota. I have three girlfriends. You are all beneath me.
>>577292116im a big deal if you get to know me
>>577290718You say this as a meme but I had enough of a showing last night for my team to actually do what I said, group around me and the game was an easy clean victory after that
>>577292498youre a nobody so why would anybody have the incentive to get to know you
>pos4 picks underlordman I fukincg hate this shit
>>577292696because of my auraagain if you knew me, you would understandyou bore me though so i doubt id give you much more attention than i already have
look I don't wanna be the bad guy here, but let's be honest. 99% of the people who still post here are losers in 2026. The reason 4chan and this general and game are "dying" is because everyone else grew up, got a job, got a gf, prob got married and are in their early-mid 30's buying a home and thinking about having kids and have zero time or interest in shitposting on this general or 4chan at all. Take a hard look at yourself and ask "do I really want to be here in a decade". I got divorced myself and am back living in my parents house at 35 and this is the only reason im here, dota is a crutch for most of you because ur too afraid to go out there.
>Undying>Not the 3 Death ticket character
>>577292676>meme I am 100% serious, anyone who wants to rank up as POS 4 and POS 5 but "my cores are so bad and I can't influence the game past 45 minutes" needs to become a shot callerBuy a MICROPHONE DO NOT USE TEXT CHAT it is 100x more efficient to say "I just saw the enemy on my ward in the jungle, they are ganking us, run away" then it is to ping "Missing" and spam alt ping. If you are a support you have a much better time continuously watching the mini map like a hawk so you'll always know where people on the enemy team are and can guesstimate where the rest are. Anytime I feel like our team is slowing down and disorganized I say which enemy heroes I know for sure are located and then say if we should smoke up and gank or to avoid if we're really far behind. Most of the time people listen as long as you just aren't a dick.Watch videos on Dota decision making skills (If we're ahead take this objective, if we're behind do this objective)I went from Herald to Legend in less than 5 months doing this and this alone. 5 retards on a bad plan is better than 5 retards on 5 different plans
>>577293598>rejected by his ex-wifekeep your opinions to yourself, you cant even satisfy a woman
>>577293731>phoenix>No Star tickets
>>577293897>Death Prophet>One Death ticket, no High Priestess tickets>Wraith King>No Death tickets
>>577293897phoenix is the sun dumb ass
>>577293824For you
>>577291570he decided to take 1 year off after graduating and try to go pro in warcraft and became world champion, he only became a streamer after he was already a successful pro player. if it's so easy go win some tournaments in wc3 you'll get same money and fame. also calling him "famous" is a stretch. he's "famous" only within a scope of an ancient unc game that is very niche today. he has like 20k views on his youtube videos, he's not a very popular guy. he's got collabs with actual popular streamers like tyler1 because he's respected within gaming community as a pro scene veteran, not because he's a big streamer
>>577293824lol ok virgin, you've prob never even touched a woman before. you will die alone playing this game in a dark room
>>577294165KoTL is the 3-star characterDawnbreaker has a star ticketThe Sun is a star
>>577294343NTA but Grubby is based. He had the streamer WC3 tourney which was quite fun and then it spilled over to an AoE2 tourney too.Seeing a PoE pro micromanaging a single unit in AoE2 like a god was so much fun.
>>577294394barbs out! seems i was accurate in my assessment
>>577294165 go to school lil bro
we truly had it good in the grub era
these grubby talks really make me want to download frozen throne and play some warcraft matches and look at that, a discount!
I mean I'm getting griefed every single game from min0 today
>>577294969>paying 15 yuros for a 24 year old game
>>577295115well it's the only way to play online without headache
>>577289672*Lima major flashbacks*brazil or argentina have better infrastructure that could host TI, sadly almost no one plays/watches dota there
>>577292219let me guess you're gonna post your grandma jewelry
>>577294805if u think that was good, imagine how good it was back in 2013-2016>dota on the uptrend>gazillion dollar tournaments>great personalities both in casting and in the teams themselves>EU West was 90% real genuine europeans who spoke english>MMR peaked out at like 6k so you could feel games getting more challenging from match to match>no drumpf, and he was considered a joke even when elected those were the days
PSG was the prophet, augar is the disciple
How do you expect me to not blame my supports when the lion just stands there and doesn't hex during an all-in
>>577293731>io>a before-time god>3 fool tickets
>>577295717nostalgia does funny things to ones memory
>>577295876people today are all league of legends immigrants and they focus on 1-2 roles and 1-2 heroes only, then when they have to play pos 4 they have no idea what they suppose to do
>>577295717dota now feels like the last days of Rome.
heres your pos4 bro
>>577295717>>no drumpf, and he was considered a joke even when electedwhat it has to do with dota
>>577295717>EU West was 90% real genuine europeans who spoke englishlul
>>577296230>people today are all league of legends immigrantsHAHAHAHA what delusion, i wish it was true but come on bro, almost all new players are from russia not former league-errs
this is the LD on the other team. how fucked am i?
>>577292219
haha what a surprise I went on the "alone" viper and an invisible phantom assassin and windranger were RIGHT THERE to instantaneously kill meand then the zeus and shadow shaman showed up 2 seconds later WOW WHAT A SURPRISESURE AM GLAD I HAD MY GOLD LEAD TO PROTECT ME
This is the winning ticket
>pos5 alche>pos4 muerta
>>577294969you don't need to pay for reforged if you have the original version already on your account.
>>577296368Pos 4's purpose is to roam and set up kills, it doesn't matter what he picks as long as he successfully roams and sets up kills. The only people who can get mad at something like Nyx pos 4 is retards who pick hard carry hero pos 3 and have a melty after they go 0/5 in first 10 minutes. You scrubs have never seen dota where you had to stand alone against 2 heroes as pos 3
>>577296094you wouldn't know since you weren't there>>577296362true. though really it's been like this for a while. i think the anime was like the last gasp of sovl this game had, now it's just a third world daycare>>577296381it was part of forming the zeitgeist. less anxiety>>577296410it was in my bracket at least. you cannot gaslight me over this, sorry.yes i replied to every post. what aobut it?
wow we went on the alone shadow shaman and a zeus and a viper instantly popped out of nowhere to kill ussure am glad I was playing with my team
Rate my profile, I don't play much thohttps://www.opendota.com/players/10872476
>>577296853the anime was fucking ASS why do you think no one talked about it? >but marci and mirana persona-goonbait dosent change the fact that it was ASS
>>577296764I don't have original. I used to have a disk 20 years ago but it is long gone
>>577292219post keys & cowboy boots>>577296853>anime was like the last gasp of sovltranny luna says nah
>>577296853>what aobut it?you're a massive retard with a poor memory
>>577296961>guardianLOL
>>577297034you should've added the cdkey to your account 15 years ago. skill issue.
>>577296853>>577297028I genuinely think dota has better lore than lol and more interesting heroes. The only thing they had to do is turn dota cartoon into anthology and just visualize already existing stories like how Slark escapes prison or if they want original content make Rubick do some cool shit with Aghanim scepter. There are a lot of good opportunities for very interesting stories. Instead they focus on the most boring hero possible and half of the characters are not even in the game
>Lose lane>Can never do a single thing for the entire next 50 minutes except hit creeps or I'll instantly die, because I'm behind from just hitting creepsreally fun video game
>>577297407the dota anime had almost nothing to do with dota, and the production values were not good. but at the same time it was 1 guy using the opportunity to slip his passion project into production while haphazardly dressing it up in dota trappings. would it have been better if valve had instead adapted some genuine dota lore and hired frenchies to animate it with hot babes? probably. would it have been more sovlful? i'd argue it would not
Secret agent 47 has been dispatched
>>577298568>'ggerbased
>>577294969even after all these years, best game ever
dota by adi shankar when
>>577298745I love how dark the map is, the lighting makes it look really cool. Gives it a danger factor.
This underlord was so useless
I desperately wish Ringmaster was in any way fun to play whatsoever
>>577299128Escape act should be usable on enemies
>>577298864>here is why poor lighting is a good thingthis is your brain on nostalgia
>>577296578Yep. Pretty obvious smurf. Will valve ever fix this game?
>>577298904>2x daedalus Kunka>refresher snapfire>diffusal+skadi slarkWhat the fuck am I looking at?
>>577299464archon 3 games
>>577299413His xpm/gpm is pretty average. Doesn't look like a smurf, just a dude that spams the same hero.
Loss queue goons are out in force today.
>>577299403can tell ur an angry nerd who hates everything, go touch some grass geek
>>577299365He should have 4 entirely different abilitiesThere was apparently some completely unsubstantiated rumor he was going to be reworked with dark carnival? Just because he's so fucking boring and nobody plays him to the point where people thought they were reworking him for NO reason?
>>577299658With only 100 wins? Sure. Retard.https://www.dotabuff.com/players/1173977171 Even look at his name on dotabuff.
>>577299664Yep. Had the classic hard support designated as hard support goes mid
>>577299670>he didnt agree with my opinion>reeeeeeehaha got 'em!
Another great day of playing dotaOne more game and I'm Ancient I
>>577299664Damn I'm loving that old school ember build, miss those days.
Thoughts on my fantasy roster?Should I replace my supports with team Yandex or are the supports of Team Spirit good enough?
>>577300030Yeah it did wonders for him didn't it?
^ this guy is the thread goblin watch outBE GONE GOBLIN
Looking at some faggot smurf's earlier games. Wtf am I looking at?
when do i get the cool candy arcanas
>>577300948bot farm games before the account was sold to a smurf
>>577302306How does the game even end with 432 building damage?
>>577302456Creeps
topson at TIcould be kino, i want to believe
>>577302712this is basically just amalia from wakfu
>>577299664Is that the last game before you derank? :^)
>>577303936I hope that wasn't implied to be a bad thing
>>577300236would change the mid to gpk if your really tryna max it out
>>577304921gpk's just going to job and lose like every other TI. He has skill but he has bad luck in the teams he plays for.
running up these wins call me tailung
>>577305379sir, did you memoryhole 2025 already?
>>577305631Is this where you tell me gpk made it to TI Finals last year?
what does cm even do bro
>>577305920he went 4-0 in group stage which is all that matters for this phase of the compendium
>>577299664You have to be trolling with this ember build dumb nigger
>>577306036Actually I guess you make a good point. I was too focused on the long-term.
>>577305936sex
>>577295115Take a pick anon1. DotA - AoS (6.34b, the kino version)2. Legion TD - Misc / TD3. Wintermaul Wars / Warcraft Maul - TD4. Footies / Footmen Frenzy / Wars - Strategy5. Life of a Peasant (LoaP) - Roleplay, Misc6. Green TD / Green Circle TD - TD7. Castle Fight - Offense8. Enfo's TS - Hero Defense9. Line Tower Wars - TD10. Tree Tag - Tag11. X-Hero Siege - Hero Defense12. Vampirism / Crazy's / Fire / Beast - Tag13. Sheep Tag - Tag14. Uther Party - Minigame15. Azeroth Wars - Strategy16. Risk Devo / Revo - Strategy17. The Black Road RPG - RPG18. Element TD - TD19. Broken Alliances - Strategy20. Troll and Elves - Tag21. Area of Ice Escape - Minigame22. Pudge Wars - Hero Arena, MiniGame23. Fight of Characters / FOC Another - AoS, Anime24. Island Defense - Tag25. Run Kitty Run / SNS - Minigame26. Civ Wars - Offense27. Battle Stadium DON - AoS, Anime28. Titan / God's Land - Roleplay29. Island Troll Tribes / Jungle Trolls - Survival30. Footmen vs Grunts31. Battleships - AoS32. DBZ Tribute - Anime, RPG, Hero Arena33. Tech Wars - Offense34. Mafa TD35. Pimp My Peon - Minigame36. Twilight's Eve ORPG - RPG37. Battle For Middle Earth / War of the Ring - Strategy38. D3fi4nce`s Open RPG - RPG39. Tropical Tower Wars (TTW) - TD40. Angel Arena / Hell vs Heaven / Legend of the Dragon - Hero Arena41. Hero Line Wars - Hero Defense42. Jurassic Park Survival - Survival43. Kodo Tag - Tag44. Werewolf Transylvania - Survival45. Fortress Survival Alpha - Survival46. Dark Ages of Warcraft - Strategy47. RoTRP - Roleplay48. Warlock - Hero Arena49. Battle Tanks - AoS50. Zoator TD - TD
>>577304921interesting choicehow much impact does picking combinations of players to get boosted by prefxis? like half a percent to 2% higher, swapping out for someone consitently in the middle/upper middler of the pack supports are more of a mixed bag and im not sure who to pick there, top rosters have them bottom in fantasy scores>>577306378>>577305379>long termI think recency bias isn't a real bias.
>>577305379How about this one? You seem to know more than me.
>>577305936buys aghspresses rwins game
>>577305379gpk is going to put up big numbers for fantasy he saved mine last year when pure was shitting it up
>>577307128Don't ask me. I just got proven wrong so ask the other Anon.
Lina sucking while Rylai rims or Rylai rimming while Lina sucks?
^ step outside coomer freak
wait did marine really afk farm as centaur mid?fuck i might just switch to nisha like everybody else
>>577307740Lina sucking for sure
>>577299664>axe euls vanguard (no crimson?)>bf ember....>invoker glep wind (alot money on dogshit)>more ember memeing (at least when daedelus)>nyx is very situational . only good on like medusa>luna no refresher aghs (literally broken)>typical am bf>slark meme trashyou wonder why you lose?
>>577308973His winrate IS slowing going down.
what a depressing general just hours before ti lmfao
>Entire enemy team dies>Walk up to tower to do damage>4 people come out of the trees to kill me
>>577310452theres no hype anymore and no one cares, not even valve dota is dead
>>577310845Time to start keeping tabs on timer and counting seconds. 30, to be precise.
>group stage starts in 4h 30min>workdaywhy don't they think about us eurogoys when scheduling this?
>>577310452dota players have aged out of this website.dota is not tranime or mobile.we are no longer the target audience of this website.
>>577311970because dota is a thirdie game now for poor peruvians and sea-monkeys. somehow there's still millions of russians that play despite them being sent into a meat grinder. valve hates america and europe
Who do I play if I fucking hate offlane and hate offlane champions but always die from """""overextending"""""" because I want to actually push objectives instead of hide in the trees half a map away whenever anything happens
>>577312286lycan or visage or krob.
>>577311970Finals are on weekend anon
>>577312286play weaver and don't be greedy to farm too close to your actual carry, focus on keeping lanes pushedyour team will have worse teamfighting but you can push and delay the game and win late game
is group stage even played in the main stadium?
>>577312580nothey play from hotel rooms with webcams hooked up
Here is an accurate depiction of the average dota 2 player in 2026.
>>577312771that's wrong because 70% of the player base is russian
Here is an accurate depiction of the AI slopping lolcow.
>>577312771>not a russianok retard.
>>577313269the hoodwink autist looks like THAT?!
ur right heres the avg dota 2 player
I got muted halfway through a game for calling my support a nigger and saying I want russians to be wiped off the earthYou guys said Valve was cool
oh yea there's ti>chinai guess there's no ti
>>577313758that's just a picture of mason when he was good at the game
>>577312771Did you really waste water for that bs
>>577296780I miss offlaning solo, it almost never happens anymore from the start.More than anything, im just sick of having people in my lane just taking my xp and doing nothing that helps. And if i see any more pudge players who think their job is to stand in trees all game waiting to hook someone im going to kick gaben in one of his chins
>>577298864Fuck yes i have a huge boner for that
>>577296780>Pos 4's purpose is to roam and set up kills, it doesn't matter what he picks as long as he successfully roams and sets up killswell as it turns out, he just sat behind me and soaked up xp. But since you needed that little strawman to take out your autist rage on, I don't think you really care about that little freak
4 hours to finish the fantasy stuff
>>577314548You haven't locked in yet
guys please behave yourselves and be nice to tourists!reminder kids are watching this thread
>>577298745wc3 campaign is dogshit, especially tft.I tried playing through it again recently. sc+bw mogs everything else still.
Final prediction any adjustments that need to be made say it now
>>577314829damn im sorry for being a sperg, gotta set a good example moving forward.
>>577314829>fat hands on both of them>dirty nailsobese unwashed pigs.
Have they leaked or teased any new hero(es)?
>new herohahaha
>>577315384>>>/vg/dlgwhite people play the new game bro.
u guys suck
>>577315384They teased a update last TI that we haven't received yet
>>577314829>gaming laptopinto the trash it goes
watch out the thread goblin is here and hes being mean and sarcastic to everyone watch out!
>>577315651You suck
My body is ready
>>577316170noone in 2026?
>>577316170you could have at least not be boring with your picks lol
>>577312164>there's still millions of russians that play despite them being sent into a meat grinderonly ukies are sent to the grinder though
>>577316641True. Too many russians.
When you think about it bounty hunter is the tailung of dota
>>577316641everyone to the east of the danube is russian unironically
>>577317163What about the mongol larpers? Magyars
>>577317347it's all russia until it reaches mongolia and then it's all chinaman until the pacific ocean
Best player in two continents.
I've been switching my fantasy mid from nisha to topson after every single match played and I just can't decide if I should trust meme magic or not.
why are valve such retards to make another TI in china where the timezones are all fucked up and it's a weekday?clown dead game
Can someone explain why Nature's Prophet somehow isn't overpowered
>>577318359shut up idiot, the game needs to be popular in china againit's literally what gave dota it's magic for the first 10 years, the china vs world atmosphere that we lostchina is our gary oak, them being good at the game gives the pro scene so much flavor
>>577318362if he doesn't get like 5 kills before min 10-15 he's deadweight
>>577318362He was nerfed several times straight until he dropped below 50% winrate to make sure he's not overpowered.
>>577318521none of what you said is trueliterally kill yourself
>>577318624dishonest moron, go back to eating your burgers and watching your tranny porn, amerikkkan
>>577318521Yea, what dota needs is MORE China pandering
Do you guys realize that no one cares about dota anymore because its a boomer game for people in their 30's and above...
>>577318538I genuinely don't understand how a character that can be anywhere on the map while providing both utillity and damage could somehow fall offIf you don't have a quelling blade (which is 4 of the 5 characters) he presses trees on you and you just fucking dieAnd that's even if he does no damage to youHe literally can't fall behind in farm because of his ult auto generating gold and experience and that's if he literally just afks and doesn't teleport to wavesLike I genuinely, unironically just fundamentally cannot get it through my head how this character can lose a game
DOW4 got fucking delayed to december... am I fucking stuck with this game for 3 more months...
>>577319464that game is going to suck anyway, I'm going to play aion 2 next monthas for dow, eventually they will remaster dow2 and that will be a much better competitive game than dow4
>>577316170>death>fb>camps stacked on mid>rune on suppGlad this is kind of TARD I will be competing with.
>>577319125shut the fuck up retard
>>577319464idk i feel like it doesn't look that good... i loved 1 and 2, never touched 3. yeah ill stick with dota for now
>Person abandons>"Players can now leave this game without suffering an abandon">"WARNING: LEAVING THIS GAME WILL HAVE CONSEQUENCES">Consequences: Your teammates will play at a disadvantage!
>>577319617>aion 2Korean slop
>>577319835dow4 is made by a bunch of germans and their focus is lore, campaign, casual shit, the game is going to suck competitively
>>577319939>Korean slopso? if it's a good game it's a good gameI played a korean mmo, lineage 2, when I was a child and it was the best time of my gaming life, only dota 1 days were better
>>577319617>>577319981>competitive>competitivelyNOBODY cares, chud.
>>577319981Sad. Yeah I was not impressed by the gameplay they showed.
>>577320112The thing with slop it isn't good no such thing as a good Korean mmo
>>577320224single player games are boring, you're basically playing for the story and at that point I'd rather watch a movie instead of playing
>>577320313the competition is weak, eso, wow, runescape?, idek what mmos are still alive, aion 2 can easily be better than those terrible games
>>577319642Out of rolls sadly
>>577320592This is an aggressively low iq post
>reddit>low test post hating on competitive gaminglike pottery
>>577319354>treesinfinity money and mobility era = trees aren't that good anymore also it gets destroyed by a shitton of shit>damageneeds to be like 2-3 slots ahead of somebody otherwise he's just a shitty right clicker>He literally can't fall behind in farmit is very easy to feed off of a profit that isn't currently on a stomping team, depriving not just np but his entire team, also ult spam can make it fucking annoying for the rest of his team to farm
>>577310139Forced 50 kicking in. Lost like 300 MMR. Help me, bajs
>>577320814Ffxiv and wow but those are terrible lmao no such thing as a good mmo the only one that came close was blade and slop
>>577321753>a profit that isn't currently on a stomping teamdoesn't exist
we're all herehttps://www.twitch.tv/peterpandam
>>577322607come back with your 30 win profit streak
newfriends losing their mind over forced 50 heal my soul
>>577322635>shit musicno thanks
feeling like getting back into dota now, I need to watch some pro games to get the meta
whereisthehype
>>577321835lulLiterally 5 MMR away from becoming Legend 2. Queue up. Can't go on another 13 loss streak, right? :^)
>>577324196lmao only redditors pretend to be hyped about this game anymorethey still using the "people been saying this game ded for 10 years! owned u!!1" narrative btw
>>577322635Is this the shitter who got carried by Aui
>>577324368senor pipi is the mastermind behind all this, watch your mouth
>>577324368they both got carried by literally the worst patch ever played in a TI, where shit like jungling kotl no boots aghs rush and techies were viable
>>577324873>jungling kotl no boots aghs rush and techieswhen the game had soul
how fucked am i? i dont know anything about the scene this year. my rationale was to just pick decent teams and spread my players a bit so i at least have a higher average at the cost of a lower ceiling. i dont get that terrain token im gonna explode
>>577325709I dont know anything either, I just follwo the reddit picks
why were the old school dota players chads compared to these new dweebs? xboct balding and not afraid to grab some ass
>>577325709>runes grabbed 300%you are top 5% already unless you forget to fill playoff predictions don't stress
>>577324873>ti was better when pudge/techies draft was viable
>>577326348should i change my support team? who besides yandex has been doing well?
last china event was so epic, it was when they called James back to host and that was one of the funniest dota 2 tournaments ever, every time he would bring the white board it was just hilarious.
whats the point of terrainthe other 9 people are not seeing itit only disrupts your long established game instincts
all in on falcons, how'd i do on mods?
how long till the games start im gonna grab some beer
>>5773271712 hours
>>577326792If you wanna max chances to get points from fantasy roster you have to check guide what players most likely get bonus from same prefix. Obvoiusly dont take teams that you think are going to go 1-4 or 0-4.Only thing in your swiss guesses that makes no sense to me is yandex 1-4 they belong in upper row 100%.
>>577327263ty saar
>>577327406im out of rolls so im mostly just banking on what ive got. if >>577326348 is right then i should be fine, i just dont wanna fall too far behind. ive gone and swapped yandex with iron wing on a hunch since i have absolutely no idea who they are
>>577327649you dont need rolls to change prefix or suffix its literally free my man. and also autistic as fug you are top 90% unless those players decide to 322 every game.
>>577327754those right, sorry. ive got elemental + acolyte. acolyte is sort of a throwaway but elemental has so many good picks rn i feel like theres no way it could go wrong
>he's not going for chinese teams when TI is in china and valve will do everything to make a chinese team win so dota can be saved again
We trust the ebinn process.
one time many years ago during TI I posted a gif of medusa porn and the thread was moving so fast no one ever saw it or reported it heheheh
excited to see the script in action
>>577329073you can tell it isnt scripted because a chinese team isnt winningthe only exception for there being a script is if LGD wins
xtreme or vici for top 8?nigma top8?
no
how it started
>>577332208how it ended. WE turned it around. Never give up.
redpill me on KingJungles and Thiolicorare they REALLY THAT GOOD?
Professional Dota 2 players typically peak between 21 and 25 years old, though the average age of competitors at top-tier events like The International has risen to around 25 years old as veteran players extend their careers.Why the Peak Happens in the Early-to-Mid 20s Reaction Time vs. Experience: Raw mechanical speed and visual processing tend to peak in the early-to-mid 20s.Tactical Adaptation: Dota 2 relies heavily on deep strategic knowledge, map awareness, and teamwork. Older players often compensate for minor drops in raw reaction time with superior macro-play and decision-making. Shift to Coaching: Players past the age of 28 or 30 often transition into veteran competitor roles or move behind the scenes to coach, where the average age sits around 30 years old.Boomers have no chance, go coach my games lmfao
>>577333398Idk but Brazilian mafia apparently is
omg dude i just realized ti is about to start!
The International is starting soon and this thread is basically dead. Wow.
>>577334429we are masturbating to anime girls so we can focus on the games when they start
>>577334429I remember we used to have stickies, truly dedgeam
https://www.twitch.tv/dota2tihttps://www.twitch.tv/dota2tihttps://www.twitch.tv/dota2tihttps://www.twitch.tv/dota2tihttps://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti
MODS STICKY PLEASE
streamlink doesnt work anymore, at least I can watch on youtube
what stream are we watching
you still have an hour to finalize your ingame predictions
Terrible timezone for TI
>>577335886Yeah it sucks, euros are sleeping and Americans are heading to bed in a few hours.
Threadboss here: Blogposting will be suspended until Aegis is lifted.Threadboss out.
>>577324368no its the guy who won without rtz
when does EG play?
What team is Dendi on? I only watch games that he's in.
damn Sneyking is so fucking ugly that I almost feel bad for making fun of him back in the hon days.
>no stickyHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>stream Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5mLup2s7Q>stream Bhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaZpuoMhjmg
>not even the rtz will win ti autist is here
ame wins
it's starting
I GOT BANNED FROM THE MAIN TI CHAT WTF
s__ w____ sh____r
whats with the trannies
Jenkins needs a haircut, disgusting, greasy looking rat. Grow up and get a clean cut.
put on some tighter clothes fly my guy
Sheever looks amazing for 41 damn, could pass for mid 30's.
has fly condemned the IDF genocide in gaza yet? he should be allowed to work until he condemns the genocide honestly
someone else is gonna have to step up to make threads during these dogshit TI hours
oh right its just 30 minutes of yappingno opening cinematic yet
>>577337383https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1vmx2b8/the_international_2026_day_1_match_discussions/
derivative of y is still playing this game after all these years and getting into TIs, damn
i haven't been here since last ti what's new?
>>577337672nothign
>>577337059reason why game is dead
I haven't played this game since last battle passSo there's no arcana, no battle pass, no personas, and no new hero?
>>577336984now post what you wrote that got you banneddon't even try to pretend you don't remember
nobody cares about group stage, people just care about the final day.
fuck itim losin sleep its only once per year
why did sumail turn mexican
Fly has huge feet wth
Take a shot everytime they say "it's crazy"
Why don't dota players ever smile. THey look miserable.
>>577335886I'm an American with a terrible sleep schedule so this is perfect. I can literally watch every match from groups to grand finals.
>>577338738Very serious game
>>577338738They are rich pros, look at the actual average dotard and you'll know misery
>>577338516its that neanderthal admixture
What's Sheever like in real life?
>>577338738All pro gamers are depressed and hopped up on stimulants and anti-depressantsthey are also encouraged to take things seriously and look "cool" which is why they're always doing stupid shit like posing with their arms crossed
>>577338942tall
LGD is a south american team now what the fuck
>>577338942probably a vapid npc bitch, if i'd have to guess
>>577338738The mass majority of them are from China, Russia, SEA and South America. Not great places to live. Would you be happy?
What do you call this color
>>577339098short person reply
game starting on stream B in half a minute
>>577339165#B8B4AA
>Miikka Topias Taavitsainenhuh he changed hes name or wut?
>>577339339No? That's his full name
When are the good teams playing?
Can you still get drops and stuff from watching in the client?
games?
thread going so fast nobody will. otice i want to suck Hoodwink's feminine cock!
>>577339385Every single article ever calls him Topias Taavitsainen, literally never Miikka Topias Taavitsainen.
>>577339512are there drops in dota now?
FUCKS SAKE START THE DRAFT ALREADY
I'm excited for Topson.
YOU READY?
>>577339339didn't he convert to islam
boooring
>>577339098I have never met a mean or vapid tall person in my life.
Will Topson bring back Pugna mid?
dam did sheever get an upgrade on her implants she looks huge
QUARRY STATUS????
>>577340014no
lmao come on man topson isnt ready for this stop riding that mans dick
I'm watching this TI on my 6 inch smartphone while most of you have large and expensive smart TV and monitors setups.
>>577339806ready anytime
4 streams, what game are we watching?
No one wants to listen to these dorks talk about a video game, start the matches already.
>>577340123taapsen of course
>>577339497
>>577340123topson
LOCK THE FUCK IN
>>577340123mason
GAMBLING DEGENERATES WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
Is this what normal people feel when they watch their sports team play or watch the world cup or something? A bit of excitement?
who are we rooting for?
>>577340248how is he not homeless yetdid he inherit the house from a dead aunt or somethingdoes twitch streaming pay that well with 1k viewers
draft takes WAY TOO FUCKING LONG the next major patch needs to do SOMETHING about draft times ffs
>>577340395yes lol twitch pays if you have 1k viewers consistently
>>577340395that's pretty good
>>577340316yesit's more emotional too if you have a team/player you support
Who's that sexy girl voice I keep hearing? Omfg
saberlight is on the panel??? lmao where is fear
>>577340542where
>>577340394Gamer legion
Where is EG?Where is Secret?Where is Complexity?Where is DC?Where is Newbee? Where is Team Archon? Where is Navi?Where is Alliance? Where is Fnatic?Where is Liqu- oh nevermind there they are.
>>577340647https://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti
>>577340598dead in a ditch
>>577340542Grubby
>>577340395masons a retard but hes not THAT retarded and yes you can live off of even 200 average viewers
>>577340681sheever is the only girl there but her voice isn't sexy
https://www.twitch.tv/17uuthis guy is still streaming tournaments for the japanese people after all these years, what a hero
>>577340395With 300 subscribers on Twitch, you will generally make between $750 and $1,050 per month from subscriptions alone. Let's throw in another grand or two from ads and thats like 2-3k a month. Looks like he used to make 8k a month when his twtich earnings leaked. Based on the nice wooden door in his background and the central air vent I would guess mason is living in a home, he could probably have bought it with his 330k in winnings from esports back when homes were cheap and he prob lives in the midwest middle of nowhere.
>>577340040sheever only had a single masectomy her right (the big one) is real she's just stacked like that
>>577340675Liquid are doing it.
>>577340836>>577340836>>577340836first thread of TI
>>577340780Says you. I've been jerking off to her since I was like 16.
>>577340780>the sultry dutch ogress doesnt have a sexy voicewhat's it like being gay?
>>577340789absolute lad and chad
why is lgd a bunch of peruvians and topson? shouldn't they be chinks?
>>577340943I found his channel during TI 4 iirc, holy shit
>>5773403951k viewers is top 1%.
>>577340956The fruit company finally got the memo that the chinks crumble under pressure
