Tummy Pooch Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=680756685198854910>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>577150967
>>577205391Why does geist dress like prime rapebait?
Silver is S+++ tier
The shitlow classic
>>577205391bigger....
>>577205682To lure in men, obviously
>>577205959i-i don't know...stop yelling at me...
>>577206231
I have confession I buy gun spike on mo
average vindictroon
>>577205959technically yes but technically no.With the right build she can stay on the air with 3 seconds left on her flight without a kill.If she gets kills then yes.
>>577206735lol
>>577206498Check old thread retardo, someone answered you
won't be seeing him for another 3 days
>>577205960unironically why does parrying a melee stun whoever meleed for 3 secondsthats retarded game design
I play PICK for the AGENCY and TEMPO
>>577207206dilate
>ah yes I know how to scare the moba thread>I'll post picture of dead russians as if everyone in the thread doesn't fantasize about that religiouslykek
>>577206676Im gonna shit blood from this revelation
delete mcginnis
>>577207335Kek this. This guy is 100% underage to think spamming gore shocks anyone Should’ve posted Ivy, silver or Vindicta porn if he wants attention so badly
>>577207494buff vindicta im tired of redditors and brick/rat retards thinking shes OP
>>577207335personally I just find it shameful to have that garbage on your PC to begin with.I don't think "oh how scary and gross!"I think about the kind of person that would have that garbage saved.deriving satisfaction from cruel suffering and death itself.Wow le super edgy tween!probably the kind of person to enjoy taking a shovel to a dog's jaw like said russians
nerf vindicta being able to counterspell mid flight without it interrupting and we can talk about buffing her in other ways. sick of this boosted faggot character getting to just bob and weave between roof tops for cover and being completely untouchable because she spent a WHOPPING 6400 on counterspell dispel
>>577207781holy reddit
>>577207781A response that long you were actually shocked by the gorepost and therefore motivated the troll into getting on his proxy to gorepost you again.
>>577207891is that way >>>/reddit/dont let the door hit you
>>577207162what about the WIN CONDITION>>577206676unironically viable
they need to get rid of knockdown and replace it with a new item named knockup.
>>577207791her fully charged ulti should stun enemies.
>>577207781Yeah it’s 100% mental illness. Some people get a fetish like rush seeing it. But I won’t lie. I have a webm or two of Indians getting hit by trains and grabbing electrical lines
you should be allowed have sex with vindicta after you phantom strike her tbqh
need vindicta's fat blue ass
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/forums/team-composition-reports.238/the majority of threads in this team-comp reports section are off topic. How do retards manage to click through multiple posts to get here and post?
>>577206676we're burying you alive>>577207553>Vindicta pornVindicta feet would have me on speed dial
>>577208113id rather have sex with mina ha.
>>577207931>shockedstub hidden.I dont waste time reading posts from posters that dont read themselves
xhe already ran out of images kek
maybe they can take a picture of themselves acking next
some slut at work clearly wants to fuck me but she's married. what hero should i play to cope (this weekend)
>>577206798
>>577208213Stop posting selfies
double the range on wraith's teleport and give it a dispel magic effect like haze 2
>>577208713i dont know what the fuck your showing me anon
>>577208648Mo and Lester
>>577208904yoshi here, I love ebony princesses. your wish is my command.
>>577208713Ok wait. That looks good, is this the current patch? And what "build" do i need to get this? Vindicta is worthless if i dont get permaflight.
Impregnating Vindicta
Vindictas soles and toes...
missing walkers at 11m and triple your damage in lane will come to you but only if you don't ban wraith
Impregnating Vindictas soles and toes...
>>577209151That’s just the 3200 cdr and 3200 duration and arcane surge and spiritual overflow
>>577204214I play deadlock to play the game. Not stare at asses. Only a brainrotted coomer would think that image is an issue. Its not censorship. Its to filter retards like you that dont actually play the game.
>>577208976My fucking Wraith when she starts a fight with a +10k soul Drifter.
>>577205784in my heart
Why are you like this, /dlg/?
>>577209509I want my lore accurate panties mod for Paige, Vindicta and Graves, NOW.
>>577209509Kill yourself, censorship worshipper. Aesthetics are a part of gameplay. You dumb worthless censorship worshipping nigger subhuman. Censorship can never be justified.
>>577209975shut up and eat this phantom strike *grounds you from a million miles away*
>>577206306cool idea but geist is way leggier. Didn't even recognize her at first.Like she has man proportions here
>>577210043Jeet melty
>>577210043Gigachad Trvthnvke
why does using a dash ability when someone is in your face have a 90% chance of you just going through them
>>577209164>>577209217But her panties... nevermore...
uh oh xhe didn't like that one
>>577209509you don't need to stare at asses, anon.
>>577209379Just tried all those items together and she had 8 seconds of cooldown left after flight wore off. Valve are niggers. Am i missing anything?
>>577210072I buy phantom strike on dynamo and just solo ult this slut on repeat.
>>577210579You are projecting your fetish. You are a troon. Kill yourself troon.
>scorn cant break boxesYoshi fix this
GT IS LITERALLY VINDICTA BUT BETTER BTW. WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?
When slork gets added it should be revealed that the head he wears IS The Adversary
>>577210072>million miles away>some heros haven't even started experiencing bullet drop off
>>577210043>Aesthetics are a part of gameplayWhat gameplay element requires you be able to look up Paige's skirt?>>577210625Exactly, so why is it an issue you cant look up her skirt?
I don't understand when or when not to farm; is joining my team is a suicidal fight better overall for like morale reasons? Or is it better to just ignore them and silently lane janny and farm? I feel like both options guarantee a loss
>>577210749I'll admit I also have the habit of wasting dynamo ult on fliers just to do it, not because I need to or should
game is literally unplayable on linuxwtf valve
>>577210992Got their asses there.Well done.
>>577210132
>>577211063my one and only goal is to get a reaction out of them and mind break them into buying an unstoppable and then I stop doing it instantly so they wasted 6k
>>577211078Works on my machine
>>577210992I want to see her panties. It would make me happy, why do niggers like you hate happiness? Why do you want to take perfectly good things from me.
Their panties are part of their personality and therefore of their character design, simple as.Thinking about Paige's panties, would she wear dark green panties with a flannel pattern or it would be a simple light green to match her kneesocks... so many things to think about....
>>577211408Feministniggers cant comprehend this because they are too dumb and niggerish
>>577210792i'm not the one actively talking about panties like a brown transister dough
>>577211408This isnt a porn game
>look up Paige's skirt>She's wearing a diaper
>>577211556Whites want pantyshots. Brown trannys like you want to take them away. Thats the truth. Kill yourself.
You would never see Silverposters make garbage posts like the ones above.Just saying.
>>577211556Muslims hate pantyshots, and they're a vast majority of the online browns.
>>577212262Silver posters all died
Silver does not wear panties because she likes harsh fabric of her jeans to rub against her.
Silver has exposed titty flesh. She is a wh*re. She will be stone formed. Echo shards will be bought, just to stone form her again.
>>577206929so you don't deal free damage and not get punished are u retarded?
>>577212437No....... wtf.....................
>>577212480that's kinda sexy
You're jewish.
>>577212480i can confirm cause she is my WIFE
>>577211057just give them a reason"I have a 2k bag I can't fight guys I'm near a big item just chill for a bit"
an IQ too high?
>>577212262Nigger.
>>577212836where's the hook though
>>577212262>>577212437>>577212631Where are her buffs?
>>577212836do you think she'll grow as big as abby
>>577213049In two more weeks
>>577212480Even if you stripped Silver nude it would look like she has panties on because of how thick her bush is
>>577212262>>577209975>>577212836What is their panties policy?
>>577213484This guy >>577213374 is definitely accurate for SilverThe other two, who cares
why is it that every time I see those occult symbols on the wall, I feel like putting on a dress and starting to stream?
>>577213661your wife is dead, james
borgor
She's pretty fun. Definitely need to develop some muscle memory for cards thoughI'm not if I prefer her to Venator though. Who do you think is worth putting more time intO?
>>577205391When should I sell healbane?
I'm 21-5 on Mo and negative wr on everyone else. How do I apply my Mo skill to other heroes?
>>577214910I buy healbane quite often, I sell it if the antiheal on your team is good enough or you have a personal replacement
yo btw which one of you retards quoted el saïd in this thread the other dayi just wanna talk to you
>>577215184it was >>577207494
it was me no you're not getting my email address
>>577214910unless your hero can proc and benefit from spirit burn, usually never.
>https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/519740319207522795This is it. This is the story of how Deadlock died.
>>577212484Ivy would never say this.
>>577216526>silver nerfsYep, killed the game
>>577216526this update was genuinely dogshit and we're still trying to fix it
>>577216526>All I wanted for this patch was piercing gun for Doorman>Got buffs that he's still paying for to this day>Soon enough he'll just be ultman
total paige DOMINATION
>>577217048>doornigger gets piercing bullets>on the same patch where impact damage was removed and added to the explosions insteadwhat were they thinking?
alright i've tried everything but this game is just unplayableperiodically it just sends me back in time a couple seconds
>>577217261thinking? this is a vibecoded game bro
>>577214829Shes gonna be S tier soloq for decades.
>Have close to 1000mg caffeine>Feel very on edge>Punch my monitor when I die
could you imagine how cancer it would be if siphon bullets procced off ricochet?
>>577217106More proof that building supportslop items = throwing
>>577217581It doesn't?
>almost 600 hours of my life wasted on this game>finally look into mods>among the top five are 'show your cooldowns under your crosshairs' and 'make the top bar show you when enemies are missing from a teamfight and what objectives are updo people really not know their own cooldownsis it such a burden to look at the fucking map
Thoughts on binding Vyper's knives to right click? Do any shivs put knives on their mouse? I feel like having it one 1 with how you have to slide about on vyper makes aiming them harder
>>577217635nope.not on split shot either.if you want it to affect multiple enemies, you gotta shoot each individual one per proc
>>577218174I still use the trusty deathadder (get it?) so I have two thumb buttons and I bind one of them for knives.muscle memory still makes me hit 1 but hey, so long as Im hitting them without disrupting my slide
>>577218331Literally looking at the top Venator build and one of the tooltip under Siphon bullets was like "with ricochet this goes hard" or something
>>577218174I put em on my mouse side buttons
Why does the T3 spirit item section exist
>>577218496>two thumb buttonsI think I have that mouse. I use those for itemsI tried binding slide to right mouse for vyper but that felt stupid and I would just press ctrl anyways
>>577218515Either thats how it worked before getting patched or that guy is an idiot.I just tested with graves and it doesn't work.you can test it in sandbox by dropping a couple enemies next to each other and seeing if it's applied.
Holy fuck McNiggis is unbearable to play against this patch. She just spams turrets and you literally lose any fight in that area
>>577218174Fuck this talentless FAGGOT character that still loses games.
>>577219174uhh just buy disarming hex or somthing
>>577219174If I get this shit character in my game I will spend 30 minutes just Rising Ramming her every opportunity I get.
>High-Oracle MM is the closest thing to an actual elo hell because you have players anywhere from mid Ascendant to E6 sharing the same elo bracketReally incredible stuff by Yoshi I think
4 lanes was infinitely better in every way and anyone who disagrees probably puts peanut butter on thier dick to let their dog lick it
If mina wasn't hot no one would play her ever
>>577219720true
>>577219720The fact there's a big boom in calico players whenever she's good says otherwise
>>577219174um just pick Silver the S+++ hero?
Why do gloom bombs do the same damage as a 200 stack bebop bomb but without having to farm the stacks first
>>577220163Skillshot
>>577220163Because you have a fucking hook
>>577220229According to the post above you, the skillshot hook should do 800 melee damage instead of 60 melee damage
>>577220163shiieet cuz she black
deadlock niggas be like "its extremely worthwhile to cry over spilled milk"
>>577220163Calico is an assassin character mean to kill people who are isolated or out of position, Bebop is a pick character who can pull someone who isn't isolated out of position every 10 or so seconds.
some real specimens in ranked queue
Sick of seeing Vyper every fucking game she isnt bad at any point in the game and barely needs to aim because splitshot exists
Okay I'm burnt out again, CAN WE GET THE PATCH NOW YOSHI?????
>>577220858And what is Silver?
>>577219789This only happens when gun calico is good at things other than melting third worlder PCs
>>577220858Last I checked, none of niggico's spells do increased damage against solo players
Spoonfeed me what build to use with Silver and how to play her.I'm a 5 kill 4 deaths 20 assists Billy player btw
>>577221162She really sucks early game
>start off as 4chan autist>make Risk of Rain>it become a cult classic>make Risk of Rain 2>it does so well you sell it to Gearbox for millions>get hired by Valve to work on Deadlock>make Risk of Rain AGAINHow do we fucking stop Hotpoo?
>>577217624more proof that this is bricklo since everyone is buying the same MORE AND BIGGER purple items and not a single counter item
>>577221620if they do make a pve mode it's going to be because people have been telling them to add it ever since he got hired, not because that's all he wants to do.he wants to design more dogshit heroes like sinclair
>>577218174bind slide to right mouse
>>577221620I hope they let you play every heroIt honestly sucks that both aghs labs and siltbreaker only ever had a small hero roster
>decide to queue as different character in ranked>lose because i'm not that good with that character, realize i'm just going to lose a bunch if i try playing them >Go back to my onetrick
>>577221775he has a really bad track record with heroes
>>577221861this is why yoshit should make it percentage based so yhou can't onetrick
>>577221841but I need m2 to zoom in every now and then
>>577221841Why though? I don't find using ctrl difficult
>>577221775To be fair why hire the roguelike guy if youre not gonna make him do a roguelike
>>577221620The main reason why i'm not interested in this PvE gamemode at all is exactly because its going to be risk of rain. Risk of rain fucking sucks. The game actively doesn't want you to have fun with its bullshit timer and "constantly spawn enemies that oneshot you if you ever stop moving" design
>>577221861with this dogshit ranked system im turning into a mo and skill otp
Start rushing ricochet then spirit burn on mirage
>>577221363i fucking hate gun calico, split shot doesnt lower my frames of anything i just cant fucking see. its like someone is shooting fireworks onto my screen and its fucking miserable. same with vyper split shot
>>577222007because its fun and lets you use any other buttone freeling without constantly holding pinky on ctrl
>>577221620Will we have PvE lobbies or is everyone here still a PvP cuck?
>>577222195It's too hard to fight the muscle memory to use ctrl
Yoshi needs to add an elf heroine Preferably brown
nerf karbinedox
>>577205960that veil in particular fucking brings out something in people.
>>577222195so how do you alt-fire and zoom?
>>577212936>express shotbased>sharpshooter, lucky shot, glass cannon, inhibitorgood>having both kd and active reloadditch 1, get a resist/cleanse green or curse over it>fortitudeget resist instead, extra health is ok to start gunman with but should be sold later>spellslingerlol just get unstop/curse, apr or frenzy if you desperately need firerate
>>577205960I would go afk for the rest of the game if i lost on either side of this exchange
>>577222758Your Spellbreaker?
Is punch viscous even a real build right now? there's a lot of punch builds in the top builds but it sure feels like a meme. You invest a bunch to deal mediocre damage with punches, and that's if they don't parry. Meanwhile you press 1 with the splatter build and nuke someone for half their HP
>>577214829>for funWraith is fun if you find actually winning fun, Venator is just fun in general desu desu neeI actually really liked playing wraith when I tried her out but this was back during christmas update and I dropped her when I wasn't able to have the christmas skin on at all times. It looked really good.I really liked the red coat, maybe I should try her out again now that she's freelo. I just need to relearn her .
>>577223287it started coming back after splatter nerf so I think it's a form of copeit is a real build and it works, but it has the whole parry weakness yes. if you're against a team that knows how to press f, or even worse, buy rebuttal, you're stick fishing out f presses before you punch for real, kinda ass
I'm on a twelve game loss streak. I don't even feel like queueing in anymore, at this point five minutes in i can already tell its going to be yet another loss. Why is it never my turn to enjoy the game?
>>577223172unironically doesnt even half the damage
>>577223505>twelve game loss streakHow do you do it? After two straight losses I hope off the game for the rest of the day.>at this point five minutes in i can already tell its going to be yet another lossYou're going to keep losing with that mental. Just hop off and go again tomorrow.
>>577217635No it has an actual internal item cooldown and isn't a buildup item.
>>577223303Sometimes I feel like I'm the only 4chan user that legitimacy loves Wraith's visual design. Her skin is just a pigment too dark so i can never be allowed to say I think she looks cool without being accused of baiting. She has her hands in her pockets the entire time and that's the kino factor tying it all together
>>577223287I tried it a bit after the new patch, it's worse than splatter still but once it's maxed and you have rapid recharge puddle punch may as well have no cooldown, so the most valuable thing is you have permanent knock up/back that does ok damage and always have a way to escape any situation, and you can bait out parries pretty easily. The slight crushing fists buff means you're shredding 5% bullet res for your m1ggers with every punch late game, too. I wouldn't run it over splatter unless you're just looking to have fun but given they're going to be raping splatter and cube to death in a patch or two you may as well acclimatise yourself to the post-rape build.
8 months of the same stale hero roster, balance, and meta
>>577218168>and what objectives are upTo be fair this one used to literally be a feature in the game and they just removed it for no fucking reason one patch.>>577223670I like her visual design I just hate that every other deadlock character is some shade of purple.I also have the hot take that Calico's design is completely fine and cool in fact, they just need to give her actual hair and not the weirdo fucking beginner's first 3d model glued to her head.
>>577223641It wasn't on the same day, i played twelve games across three days and lost all of them
>>577223585that's only if tankbuster (worst item in the game according to /dlg/) and reverb are counted
What if mirage was purple?
when will valve add a knight to deadlock? does paige existing means never ever?
>>577224003His waifu is purple
>>577223718Dont worry IM about to make them release the item update.
>>577223996yeah thats the build
>>577211408their personality is casting a spell so you cant see them cause they hate you for being a creep
>>577224116I hope the item update is the rumored secret shop where you get to buy either the legendary items from street brawl late into the game, or cursed items that have drawbacks. Both ideas seem fun
>>577224171yeah but it doesn't need to be nerfed because it's just an useless statpadding build with F tier items in itimagine dying to a D tier hero using a throw build with the worst items in the game loool lmao
>>577223718>urn rework>urn rework (again)>urn rework (again...) plus new objective>ranked>countless patches inbetweendeadlockers are by far the most entitled niggas in the gaming community.
>>577223718Supposedly they're testing PVE right now so the content update is only 4+ weeks away :)
>>577224327yeah but that build is OP and needs to be nerfed
Sometimes i buy decay just to boost my damage numbers and make me feel better at the end of the match
>>577224336>koth aoe>koth aoe melee>koth aoe plus koth aoe>koth aoe ranked edition>countless area of effect buffing patches
name one good thing about this character
>carbine now does pure damage at 3rd upgradefixed.
>>577224336>urn rework>urn rework (again)>urn rework (again...)whatever happened there... oh yeah yoshitnigger is a fucking retard. updates that actively make the game worse (every single one since March) dont count unless you are a retarded machoistic cuck faggot
pve gamemode but it somehow instills macro and micro knowledge and improves your mechanics for the main game
>>577217106let me guess, brick or stone
>>577224486helps with macro and steals sinners from n00bs. people usually build bad items on him though.
>>577224589unranked standard match but yes that is where i will be ranked most likely
>>577224486active item buffs are strong as fuck and more rems need to get superior duration + curse
>>577224486Echo shard tag along
>>577224551yeah, but it's new. that's exactly what you leagueniggers wanted, this game not being stale.
Mina feels like such shit to play, I hope she's unfinished. She walks like the Falconer knights from Dark Souls 2 and her gun feels so clunky. There's also a weird lag/delay when using sanguine retreat.
>>577224938nah she walks like the boss baby. flies around and shoots like boss baby too
The south america server is so bad dude. Every match is just some malnourished venezuelan niggers who don't know anything about the game, and this is even at an average rank like Ritualist. Sometimes the game throws me into an NA match randomly and match quality is so much better. I think i'm going to start using that plugin streamers use to play in the NA servers forever
>>577224923league boogieman to deflect LOL
>>577224486he cute :)
>>577224429i like to rush decay in lane. my last 50 games, more than half have been decay rush. more people should be rushing it.
>>577225028fuck off we are full
>>577225028no fuck off
>>577225028stay out, wetback. we are full and don't want to hear whatever bastardized form of spanish you people under panama speak.
>>577225028Bienvenidos amigo!
Make lane creeps 10% faster to speed up the game.
>>577225028>average rank like Ritualist
>>577224336poor ragebait or profound clinical retardation
>>577225565wake up anon ranks got reset 2 weeks ago
>>577225565Ritualist is gold, the average rank for any ranked game ever
>Whats that?>You're making a push to end the game?>It would be a shame if half your team abandoned the other half to take rift when we're 40k+ in the lead and at max boons wouldn't it?>OOOOOOPS!!!Im so fucking tired of this fucking game.This is the only game that makes me feel like I lost even when I win.So fucking dumb
>>577225748average rank is sentinel/bronzeI AM GOOD AT THE GAME
>>577225931average rank means you are, by definition, not good at the game. just, you know, average
>>577225984no I am ritualisti am ABOVE AVERAGE
Why the fuck is vindicta tagged in the character select screen as "one shot kill" when she... doesnt do that. Her ult seems to deal more damage if the enemy has health MISSING, so she fundementally CANT one shot kill with that, her crows do no fucking damage, her m1 is more like an assault rifle that chips away at people. Theres absolutely no reason to give her the decriptor of "one shot kill" when she literally cant one shot kill anything at all. Oh also,>abandon match because I dont want to play as some other character that isnt vindicta, I literally want to just play vindicta and thats it i dont want to learn any other niggerfaggot characters>banned until 4:43 am for some reason???Why? Why does the game want to force me so bad to not have fun and suffer by playing some other nigger? Why cant I just play the same character guranteed every fucking match? Why are valve such niggers? Tf2 doesnt have a "pick 3 and queue" system, street fighter doesnt have a "pick 3 and queue" system, counter strike doesnt make you select 3 guns at the start of each round and randomly selects one of them to give you, quake doesnt randomly swap out the railgun with something else every match, so why the fuck is this weird, nonsense, stupid "pick 3" bullshit exist? Theres no reason for it, its objectively bad design.
>>577226093>>577225984
>>577226134>>577225748ritualist isn't gold because other games have>iron -1>bronze -2>silver - 3>gold -4but deadlock has>brick -1>stone -2>iron -3>bronze - 4
>>577225931bro even emissary has complete retards I am sorry. High skill starts at oracle minimum
>be ritualist or higher>trust your teamates will push with you>be bricklow>your teamates will corner peek every single corner and run away unless they have 3-4 other teamates nearbyLiterally how the fuck do you play this garbage without conning a friend into playing this garbage with you?
>>577226123play carbine paradox until it gets nerfed there's your one shot kill
>>577226354Seeker and initiate are basically non-ranks though. They are like copper in Siege, they're ranks that only exist for new players to have a place to play with new players. You will get out of them by just playing more, even if you barely improve
>>577226123dumb troon
imagine a world where Ivy didn't exist. would deadlock have survived?
>>577225931the relative difficulty is higher at lower ranks actually
>>577226538Press T and corral your 5 person herd
>>577226123she used to not have the windup or the half health requirement so she'd just blow people up and collect FREE MONEY
>>577226560maybe before but the new system has a minimum of ~130 hours to be eligible for a rank and this thread is always full of seething mongrels getting placed below sentinel and swearing they don't deserve it
>>577226538You still can't trust your team with shit at Ritualist in SA servers. They're still the same scared faggots who freeze like deer in headlights at the mere thought of ever crossing the halfway point in the map. I swear to god the skill gap between NA and SA is like double the gap between EU and NA
>>577226546>Carbinedox isn't even that good>Spirit burn changes already hurt it>Just know it's going to get dumpstered next patch anyway
>>577226798130 hours is still a new player for a MOBA, which is why they're placed in those ranks. I'd argue you're only not a new player at 500~ hours
>>577226123>her crows do no fucking damageI hate how much of a filler skill the crows are, -resist is nice but it's such a boring ability.
>Try 4 month old Victorabrams build>Still viable as everI wonder why people forget about some builds. Especially ones that basically play themselves like this one.
>>577226962you vill be forced into the echo shard aoecircleslop playstyle and you vill like it
>>577226748Thats funnyYou should get into comedy>>577226862then MMR needs to be reworked.Leaving it strictly to win/loss is busted as fuck.No wonder people pay for boosts
>>577227039spirit abrams? half the top abrams builds are spirit
>>577226785Theres literally no reason she shouldnt still function like that right now.>>577226564Yes you are a dumb troon. Kill yourself.
>>577226962>>Carbinedox isn't even that goodThis shit is hitting for 2k across the map
>>577227212monitor on
>>577227039usually some ability gets an 8% reduction and people decide it's unplayable because they're metaslaves
>>577226785I'm so sad I didn't start playing sooner.
>>577227136Yea spirit abrams. Most of the top builds are punch builds unless I'm missing something.>>577227313It's just nice getting to late game getting witchmail and siphoning life everyone down.
>>577227115I think its just a consequence of SA being a region with lower player numbers, which makes it impossible for the matchmaking to work properly. Before this patch you needed to be at least Eternus IV to be on the top 1000 players in the SA or EU servers. For the SA servers you only needed to be Phantom 3 to get placed in the top 1000. There's just way less people playing here, so match quality suffers a lot
>>577227435yeah you are missing half of the builds being spirit
>>577223004It was some guy on standard at 3 in the morning, so he was probably either drunk or just messed around on the character.Just a funny build to see out in the wild.
>>577226962That critical Haze portrait is one of my favourites. It's so mean.
>Noone is on to fuck around on Dynamo withAnyone around platinum or oracle wanting to fuck around
>>577221428Not nearly bad enough to justify her midgame
>>577221428not really
>>577222887vyper has no ult fire and you dont need to zoom
gut mcginnis
>>577228635they will buff her in the next patch, which will be in 3 weeks
They need to give ivy some nothingburger buffs so people stop picking my wife.
>>577228869Nerfs are in order.
Does anyone know what to do if I crash every single game? I have a decent PC and WinDB says that it's a memory pointer error, so it's something to do with the game rather than my PC
I love how when Billy is on the screen you can't control your character or your camera
No buffs are needed, just a patch full of nerfs. But I dont trust them to do anything at all correct. Somehow a character that is perfectly balanced now will be raped and another will be S++ for a couple weeks, and other S+++ character will be entirely left alone. Another will get a slap on the wrist with compensation buffs that just make them better. Dont even read next patch notes that is exactly what will happen
>>577227470i swear valve already addressed this exact issue in cs2 with per region rank distribution
are dispel magic eshift and healbane the only universal counter itemd?
>>577229309nobody cares silver sissy
>>577230356what about counter spell, and I would argue healbane heal on kill is just as impactful as the anti heal
>>577230459oh yeah counter spell. i feel like those are required items in just about every game? and maybe the spirit or bullet res items if needed
>>577230356divine barrier
>be graves>carrying the game>notice this after tabbing and seeing 10+ kills>immediate thought is "we need to end this or we lose"
>>577156875i want an item that is solely meant for hmc. "fakeout" or something. cancels your next melee, but gives your next heavy or light bonus melee/spirit damage. could give negative debuff resistance or something to make you more vulnerable to parries. melee feels good, but i agree that it lacks items to give it more depth.
>>577230663that sounds horrible
>>577230663that sounds great, message it to all the devs on the forum
>>577230702do you suggest other options?
>>577221218my wife
>>577230821yeah I suggest not putting that item in the game
>>577226617I think it would have but people would have been slower coming back around to it/pol/niggers would have had an easier time keeping people away if not for the unironic dedicated waifufag fanbase
>>577230663whiffing a parry should apply a brief debuff that empowers the next melee that landsor make the next heavy melee inflict a stun because if parries can have it we should tooooooo
>>577230852not what i asked, but feel free to be a catty bitch towards an idea that won't get implemented anyway
>>577230975I already felt free to do that
>>577230975how did you know he played calico?
Hmm today I will play a nice casual game of standard on deadlock.
r8 build
>>577231073what's the problem? that's a solid comp and you'll win easily
>>577231045cool, as long as you're admitting you have nothing else to contribute to the discussion, i'll chalk you up as a lobotomite and move on.
>>577231179That's the enemy team anon
>Graves banned because she keeps eating everyones burgerGod damn, that bitch is hungry
Tried Ivy out for the first time. She feels weird, and I'm not a fan of how active-item centric she's supposed to be.
>>577231349Who the fuck bans silver lmao
>>577231073Think they're going to do anything about standard? Pretty much everyone is complaining about how match quality in standard is universally horrible
>>577230972probably a better way to do it, or it deals reduced damage to people with parry not on cooldown.>debuffin affect, i'd assume the parry cooldown already works this way, just while occupying a different part of the interface.>make the next heavy melee inflict a stunmfw
>Late into the night>Want to play deadlock>At the same time know that there will be less people queueing, thus leading to worse matchmaking and shit gamespain....
>>577231171Dogshit
>>577231171bad, here's mineI L>R this every game unless I really need an active or I get super fed and it works out well
>>577231437Thats if you go support.Just rush capacitor and build for kudzu.mystic slow, suppresor, escalating, you name it.most your damage will come from capacitor but kudzu is for teamfights and/or when you build enough exposure stacks
>>577231746I don't really get buying shadow weave that late. Its the kind of item you want at the 10 minute mark when laning ends and you can immediately abuse it to go gank all around the place. Alternatively you can swap fortitude for veilwalker for sustain an invisibility
man seeker is a mess. full of people who should be brick 1 and also full people who should be in phantom. it really did get worse and not better
>>577231449She's got people absolutely shook when she never even did anything
>>577231920my unproven thinking is that you can free roam without shadow weave until the enemy realized you're fucking killing them when they're alone but by then I have the money to buy it and then some
>>577231437Just do decay ivyhttps://youtu.be/OGTjdsJHp2s
>>577231562oh i didn't mean as an itemi meant that as a universal rulea melee-only Indom that counters the next parry stun would be coola cancel item similar to Fleetfoot/Locket but with a melee statline would be goodbut really they should just make melee heroes
>>577232393not rank 1 ivy tho
>>577232565Statistically a much better ivy than you though, so maybe learn something
>>577232630Statistically a worse Ivy than Wander though, so maybe run his build.
>>577232630so is the rank 1 ivy that runs gun tho
>>577232724>>577232770Both builds are extremely viable and good in eternus lobbies, so they're also going to be in your dogshit rank. Just play whichever you prefer
Sick of m1 meta, every game it's 4 carries, mo and krill, and either viscous or shiv
>>577232393stop pushing this fraudulent ass garbage build holy shit.
>>577232916Now that we have proper ranked people want to win more than ever, and you win by playing carry.
>>577232896this guy doesn't even fucking PLAY ivy anymore, ignoring his low ass winrate on her.you are so fucking stupid for falling for youtube clickbait video titles holy shit. the last retard i saw in my games rush decay on ivy went like 3-14. it is genuinely not a good build.
Guys I managed to NOT play a game of deadlock and avoided ruining my night with a shitty rem player
>>577233717>Statlocker """statistics""""bro.....
>>577231179>he doesn't know...
Can anyone offer any tips to troubleshoot crashing? I crash literally every match and it only started with the ranked update. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>standard match>one team has 6 players with less than 100 matches played>other team has 6 players with over 500 matches played
>>577234304as potentially inaccurate as it is, that guy is still absolutely not the rank 1 ivy and him lying about it on a video title SHOULD let you know all you need to know about the type of person you're dealing with. he switched to fucking lash (the current wonder child character that does everything well and excels at all stages of the game) and really isn't even a good player. most would consider him one of the "low eternus" players that just is there to fill the games out.but i suppose it's easier to trick people than it is to convince people that they have been tricked afterall.
I love how they just let op bullshit run free for weeks on endGuess they need the data on 1 character raping everyone
>>577231659That’s what standard is for
>>577236175Standard is already dogshit at peak hours, i can only imagine what horrid diarrhea of a match you'd get playing it late into the night on a weekday
You have to be a nigger to play Calico, that bitch is so fucking ugly
victor is actually hard to play because since you have to be up close your FPS during teamfights is always around 10-20 making aiming pain battery one of the hardest skillshots in the game
Is Deadlock in development hell?
>>577236410its in a weird stage where for some reason instead of releasing lots of new heros with unfinished models for people to test, the devs are obsessed with releasing polished, fully voice acted heros for some reason
>>577236319>vtuberfag>poor third worlder who can't buy a decent PCChecks out. probably a SEAnigger too
>>577234690https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLljd8pfiFg
>>577236487The beta just got too big for that to be viable. Reasonable people like you or i can understand that the game is in a beta and things can be wonky or ugly. The average person will look at a placeholder model and be put off from the entire game, rage incoherently if anything ever bugs out and complain forever if a hero concept they liked gets scrapped. So Valve created the secret playtest for a select few people and are only giving us polished, complete stuff now since the vast majority of players basically treats this as a complete game
>>577236652goodbye slork...
warden gaming
>>577236496my cpu and gpu both stay under 50% even when it starts dropping frames so the game isn't even utilizing everything i have, it just sucks ass
you ever have a fag so mad at you that they ping you in the fucking game's official discord after the match is over
>>577237024very curious that you didn't mention what CPU and GPU you specifically have and that thousands of people are playing the game without this issue.
>>577237227Now he's just going to lie and list a better model to save face. Maybe if he stopped throwing money at egirls he would have some cash for a better pc
>>577237175>Having your name be the same on different platforms
>>577219615glad someone else noticed. it's even worse though. I've encountered pre patch phantoms in high oracle. these niggers have no macro sense and just force fights 24/7 with no regard for the fact that the enemy team is split pushing while they take 5v4s deep in the enemy jungle (and trade equal kills somehow). you'll be a support and be forced to lane janny cause these dumb cunts just don't want to leave jungle all game.
>hmm wraith is the only gun character that's good right now... are there any that i haven't tried in a while>try out gun geist>warden tier walk into the enemies while spamming buttons and throwing shit at your feet and win gameplaywhy the fuck do people act like geist is F tier right now and needs big buffs
>>577237653except yoshi literally said that it would take weeks for the ranks to balance out. your fault if you continue playing in this state
>>577222019yeah risk of rain 2 is just exhausting to play. you're literally expected to amass enough dodge % and pray the one shot ability doesn't one shot you when it inevitably hits you. 60 minute runs btw. the last time a friend invited me to play it and was like "alright wanna do another run" and I was like nah... he's been trying to get me to play it for months and I just say no every time. it's just a shit game.
>>577237691I haven't seen anyone say that though, Wraith is just better but Geist is still good.
>>577237814It just never feels like you're fighting anything in that game, it feels like its a running away simulator. The game is about running around in circles slowly chipping away at a horde and getting randomly instant killed. And yeah like you said, the runs take way too long for how easy it is to die.
>be ritualist 6 >mm update drops >play calibration >seeker 3 I won most of my games too
>here's your new and accurate placement system for fair games, broalso interesting how this shitter has a 47.5 "rating" even though they're literally dragging their team down, goes to show that the custom stats generated by the sites are close to meaningless
your rank is meaningless
>>577237939another special mention is gunfire reborn. easily 50-60 minute runs and the meta progression ensures the longer you play and the more you unlock the less focused and fun your builds get.
your rank is a measure of your worth in deadlock society just like how salary is a measure of your worth in real life
>>577238306>first 15 minutes>have to aim, picking and rerolling specific guns>40 minutes+>you walk around and stuff dies and your gun autoaims
>>577238037I won 6 out of fucking 8 games HOW AM I IN SEEKER 3?????
I don't get why carries are also allowed to be lane bullies
>>577238727cause the game is bad/unfinished
>>577238570>>577238037it's based on your previous mmr, it's not putting you in higher lobbies for calibration unless you win literally every game in a row probablymaybe if you won all 8 you'd place higher but they pushed everyone's ranks down by 2-3 full divisions on average
>>577238936lower your rank to bait you into playing more so scummy
>>577238827ok well they should balance this garbage and it will be less bad and closer to finished
>>577239068By the time the game releases everyone's going to be burnt out on Deadlock
zzzzBring Yuma and his peepee poopoo shitshitshit cards back this twink is just brutalizing fodder
The problem with this game is most of the characters are bad or boring to play as
>>577239751Oh shit, this isn't the /dlg/ I'm familiar with, my bad
this thing only plays gun rem. takes every sinner on the map to feed his addiction.what kind of mental illness is this?
>>577239068they lowered ranks because so many god awful players were boosted into ranks they absolutely did not deserveoracle was like top 20% and yet you had brand new players that didnt know how to deny souls in it for some reason
>>577239878https://tracklock.gg/players/910945735this guy was doing that too on my team so I flamed the shit out of him. I guess I mind broke him by finally getting him on the enemy team then beating him so he swapped to paradox now
Victor theme song.https://youtu.be/9FSVPnVLUUQ
>>577240090https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=040slUxs5yQthis is his real theme song
This is what Calico will look like by 2028.
Why are my games filled with trannys who play paige and go 0 5 while moaning into their microphone?
tried venator for the first time and wow he is fucking boring as hell. ice cube sandwich
>>577240090https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zY5F002E1Qviscous theme song
>>577212081geeeeg
>>577239751>celeste, boringskill issue
>>577241204holliday theme song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uqjr-ur6LI
>want to play deadlock ranked because quickplay is fucking unplayable with terrible matchmaking and trolls going "ERMM IT'S QP!!!" when super feeding>remember unless I play Wraith or some disgustingly boring 1v9 character I literally have no impact on the game and am just subject to team comp/player coin flips.>open league insteadI never thought i'd see the day where fucking league is more palpable than deadlockwhat a fall
Why does Geist get to have an I Win button? Why isn't it at the very least a skillshot?lowkey remembering why I don't play "hero shooters"
>>577241304aimbot holliday killing spree
>ivy in my lane says "i like to eat walkers">rushes tesla/titanic before box routing for the entirety of lane>never comes back while i, a vindicta, get my shit pushed in by an apollo and his discord bunny paige>we lose, ivy ends up top souls and top obj damage, but next to no player damage, and was never present in fights and never shoved lane past neutral>bitches about how we wasted rejuv when in reality we got outmacro'd to shiti just want to die
>>577241360because it feels good when you riposte it as apollo and rape her (in a non sexual, gamer way)
>>577241483>top obj damage>never shoved lane past neutralhmmm something doesn't add up
>>577241360counter spell?silence wave?It's not that hard bro these are super common items
>>577241857>ignores the silence through cheat death>if you wait for cheat death she swaps one of your retarded teammatesit's just the Kunai AGAIN except it takes even less skill to use.
There should be a 1600 silence item
>>577241936works on my pc
n words said: 500+comm banns: 0
watching a friend who is new play matches by himself and realizing i would be tilted by minute 5 if i got him as a random
>>577242249Really makes you think, huh?
>>577242249categorically a (You) problem
>>577242249This is why you don't party with people who are new if you already know how to play.They're supposed to suck.
I used to buy glass cannon on vindicta so I could have 100+ gun damage without needing to hit ultimatesrecently I've gotten better and often end up with +100% gun damage off ultimate, and yet even with glass cannon her rifle tooltip never shows above 100 gun damage anymorecan anyone explain this
>>577241657>vindicta does 0 objective damage>ivy does 5k objective damage on guardians and then never feels safe to push walkers because the team full of backliners pussy foots around and any time they try to push like 3 people show up because they have nothing else distracting themmystery solved. also gun ivy blows dick. spirit ivy with EE unironically has better push than capacitor. just remember. ivy's gun SUCKS and capacitor is ultimately random, middling damage. it pales in comparison to a good spirit build.
>>577242438her gun damage scales with spirit
>>577242542I always buy mercurial and surge, occasionally charges, but even with boundless spirit and a bunch of ult stacks and glass cannon I can't get her gun above 100 tooltipis it just a visual bug?
>>577241857>counter spellswap is instant and has no windup>silence waveshe just swaps you 2.3 seconds later then
Sinclair is so fucking sleeper OP is hilarious no one realizes it
>>577240047I need to finish unlocking paradox. I'm 1 win away. it's one of those not-carry in the matchmaker but carry in the game heroes.
>>577242936he's a minion with 6 ultimates, just like mirage is a minion with a map teleportoutside of pro play
>>577242462i had 12k obj damage, she had 22k, the closest to both of us was a billy with 3k. no one else on the team pushed a walker besides me and her, but she would do it alone. despite having 12k souls than me, we both had 25k from troopers. she made up the difference by never being in a fight, stealing enemy sinners, and using ult to run the moment enemies showed up, usually after we wiped a rift fight (that she wasn't present for)
>>577242249why would he be at your mmr if he's new?
>>577242989Bolt does insane damage at insane range with insanely low CD, rabbit circle is great CC, spamming ults is always useful
>>577243067standard matches, anon
>>577243081>boltmisses>bunnywill save his enemies>spamming ultshe will take the wrong one at any given moment
What makes Graves good? I have personally never struggled against her, like ever, and I have never had one on my team do particularly well, why is her WR so high? On paper she's dogshit as well
Billy is like the spy from TF2 where his design is inherently solved from having half a brain and knowing how the game works. I fear he'll never fit well in the game so long as parry exists as it does, and he'll be constantly overbuffed numbers to compensate for fundamentally being a terrible fit for a game where one light melee = free long stun
why the fuck does this game have rank drop protection like marvel rivals? even rivals has it for only the lowest ranks as well not up to diamond. you should literally not be able to climb if you have sub 50 wr, ever
why do people think smurfing is okay in standard? nigga you are feeding on brick players who just want to play a new character in ranked>>577243507EOMM
>>577242901you use counterspell when she starts aggressively walking towards you remember to back up when she starts getting low
>>577243441splitpush, strong 1v1, zoning, and just being annoying like every other hero
>>577243584trivially easy to bait the counterspell outhonestly i think the fix is that antiheal needs to apply to her ult. that and spellbreaker should work with it.
>>577243441She pukes a ton of garbage into teamfightsShe isn't good at anything else but shitting up objective fights is effective.
>play graves>my 3 says I drain 101% of their weapon damage>hold m1 on wraith>she shoots me to deathyeah real nice hero
>>577243441Nothing, but most people are too stupid to hit skulls or walk away from zombies and clear them when the tombstone is placed on a lane.
>>577243676>splitpushNot very good, you have to use your ult for it and then you dont have it for a team fight>strong 1v1not really? I guess if the enemy is stupid and doesnt just walk away>ZoningShe has no range lol
>>577243865>wraith>shooting someon to deathyeah right. she spams giant autoaim projectiles that heal her to full. her bullets exist only to give her more autoaim projectiles!
>Rank has no draft so every match is literally "matchmaking gave this team four meta heroes and gave this time none therefore the first team wins"
>>577243441Can push lanes super hard and brainlessly vomit abilities into a teamfight and get solid value/pressure from them no matter how thoughtlessly she uses them.
>>577244091>team has meta heros >the feed and sneed the game anyways
>>577243982>you have to use your ult for ityou just 2 echo 2 and the lane pushes all the way to the walker/base from yours>enemy is stupid a lot of people just ape you the moment they see you, on any hero, because it's so easy to chase and incredibly hard to run away, so set up in a tight spot and kill them for freesmart players will leave you alone once you drop 2 on yourself though>no rangein team fights you throw skulls on whoever's important and hold m1 on them, assuming they're not fed they have to back off or their support has to come help, and since graves isn't really important to winning teamfights compared to carries/assassins/cc any distraction is good
>>577244095>vomit abilities>1 set of skulls that will instantly get blown and an ultimate she has to babysitI don't know niggas starting to think you have to be literally retarded to struggle against herWhen I hear "vomit abilities into a teamfight and get solid value" I'd be thinking more like a Paige or a Celest, people who make a spot very painful to stand in on a low cool, not what graves has going on, destroyable skulls and a passive that is literally useless unless she's in the thick of the fight
>>577243963>>577243982>walk away>just walk awayHow are there so many morons on here who don't understand that you having to walk away from a character isn't you countering them in an objective-based game? Yeah, bro, just walk away from rift. Walk away from your guardian. Walk away from your walker. Just walk all the way into your spawn. You hardcounter nearly every character in the game from there.
>>577244234>in team fights you throw skulls on whoever's important and hold m1 on them, assuming they're not fed they have to back off or their support has to come help,not what zoning means
>>577244234>in team fights you throw skulls on whoever's important and hold m1 on themAnd then they press Q one time and rape you which they can do for free because Graves is slow with two stamina and no health.
>>577244324>keeping people away is not what zoning meansretard>>577244374stagger skulls, drop another 2 on them, be annoying with your teammates, graves does not exist in a vacuum
>>577244304There are multiple things you can stand on and behind in the rift, it's extremely easy to walk away from Graves' summons and wall there.You stand behind your guardian and shoot her zombies.You stand under your walker and shoot her zombies.You have infinite cover in your base from all of her abilities.Do you just turn around and run when you see this character on your screen?
>>577244449>>keeping people away is not what zoning means>retardBy this logic literally every hero is a zoner cause you might have to back off if they attack you lmao
>>577242438First, you should ideally hit like 200% by 25-30 minutes. You get a stack anytime somebody you hit within last 4 seconds dies, that means that every team fight is potentially 6 stacks you can get just by tapping people, or more like 4 if you hit every shot you can without refresh.Second, you can and should buy other damage items. Long range, hollow point, bullet resist reduction (since if you bring somebody under 0%, they start taking more damage).
>mfw I hold in Q as Bill and the enemy backs off to not get hitBilly zoning confirmedA short range character like Graves is quite literally the opposite of a zoner
>>577244238Where did I say I struggled against her? He asked what her strengths were and why she has a good WR and I answered. She's an incredibly easy character that you have to genuinely try to not apply pressure on the enemy with whenever you use her abilities. There's a reason she has a decent winrate up until Phantom (and Phantom+ WRs are kinda whatever now since lots of characters don't even have a thousand matches there).
>>577244606retard, her job is to force people to move differently, if a carry has to walk around the line or spend time double jumping, or spend time on hitting the skulls, she is zoning, and yes, anyone can zone, because there's no such thing as a "zoner" is that even a word, she's just better at it while not having big damage, similar to mcnigger
>>577244673>reading comprehension
>>577244885Him struggling with the tooltip being sometimes nigh-unusable is irrelevant compared to that he's not actually building the shoot-people character to shoot people. I simply prioritize what's clearly the bigger probblem here, anon.
>Graves listening to this song in secret and hating how much she likes ithttps://youtu.be/TJXSiIESLyc?si=9_XMpR4drrTL9qDD
>>577244801>because there's no such thing as a "zoner" is that even a wordWait so your dumb ass is arguing over a term you dont even know? L M F A O
>>577244561>There are multiple things you can stand on and behind in the rift, it's extremely easy to walk away from Graves' summons and wall there.And what's her team doing while you're trying to avoid zombies? Her cordoning you off into specific areas mid team-fight is not you countering her. That means she's applying pressure on you, dummy.>Do you just turn around and run when you see this character on your screen?I'm not complaining about Graves. I'm saying that 'just walk away' is an idiotic thing to say for counterplay and makes you sound like you don't have the faintest idea of how to play the game.
>>577245114>only exists in videogame terminologyso it's a made up word, who cares retard you're getting really hung up on this because you've conceded that I'm right and have nothing elsetherefore, I accept your concessionretard
>>577245223>so it's a made up wordAll words are made up, retard
>in plat>lane partner kills the creeps so far away we can't even pick up the souls because both enemies are lane bulliesjesus haven't had this happen in like 2 months this ranked update is dogshit
>>577245327what's plat? are you in the right general?
>>577245223>only exists in videogame terminologyWe're talking about a video game
>>577245223the entire crux of the argument is the fact you referred to graves as something she isnt so yes the definition matters
>>577245629literally every character that uses summons in mobas excels at zoning, because that's what they're for, graves is no exception
silver if she wasnt woke
>Seven ults rift>I walk away>Drifter ults mid-boss while we're lining up to contest>Dumbass, what a waste, I can just leave>Lash has ult>My third eye opens and I don't even bother fighting until he's used itThis game is so fucking easy, dude.
>>577245796Wrong cause Graves is a short range character
Paige is built...
Isn't placing everyone regardless of skill level at/near the bottom just a bad idea? People that are bad at the game won't have fun because they will be wrecked by other players that are far better than them but the game says they're equal. For those of higher skill will find it either boring to shit on noobs, or mind numbing playing with noobs who do nothing but ruin the game with their idiocy and force them to lose. People who aren't at their "real" rank (regardless of how high a rank they should have) won't have fun with the game because you have to grind and grind and grind to get there to play with people of equal skill.I mean I just genuinely can't think of a worse way to do it? I think CS has the exact same problem where so many people are Silver 2 that there is no real difference in skill between s2 and any other rank because you are playing such wildly different skill levels that it has no meaning.
>>577245830Soulless, you mean.
>>577246203>Isn't placing everyone regardless of skill level at/near the bottom just a bad idea?good thing this didnt happen with deadlock
>>577245145The threat is so minor with such easy to perform counterplay she's barely applying any pressure at all, her ideal arena is rift and still the zombies and wall are easy to avoid with a dozen objects to climb on and wall jump off of. If you'd like: okay. Graves applies pressure. Graves however applies less pressure than any other character in the cast except maybe Rem. Every other character in this objective-based game controls objectives better than Graves does.
>>577245987poorly.What a useless goddamn character. "Global" ult is slow as shit, useless gun, barrier woefully inadequate for every character's burst
>>577246217Seething sharteen.
>>577246217>silver if she wasn't soullessyeah
>>577242249My friend started playing with me, and he didn't even realize he could dash jump for an embarrassingly long time and was convinced that sliding doesn't do shit.I didn't even think to tell him about dash jumping, couldn't he see everybody else doing it? Apparently not.
>>577246270Ok "everyone" is an exaggeration. But a large majority did, and another portion of it were still placed in ranks that they aren't. If before you were X rank, but now placed 2-3 ranks below, how is that beneficial to anyone? My friends are at the actual lowest rank. When I play with them, I am supposed to be playing with "lowest rank" players, yet I face off against people that are VERY good at the game. Like you're trying to tell me these very good players are the lowest rank possible? It just makes no sense. Or it's trying to say the difference between the lowest ranks and any ranks above it is nearly nothing? That also makes no sense. If 2 people play the game and one of them is "god rank" and the other is "lower life form retard bug rank" yet their skill levels are nearly exactly the same, like, what is the game trying to say?
>>577239928When I first started playing this game a year ago my first rank was mid Oracle.This is not a flex, I was (am) shit, it was 0-30-5 hell for me and it took like a hundred games to fall down to mid emissary. I had to lose multiple games in a row to derank and then one in which I got carried bounced me back up a rank. I swear I gained ranks on losses sometimes. Emissary arguably was still too high but I physically couldn't fall lower.I wasn't even carried there, my Obscurus matches were solo and while I played with friends all of them were significantly lower ranks and they actually complained about how I'm inflating the MMR beyond what they feel is comfortable. I think I just had the misfortune of starting to play during a particularly shizophrenic matchmaking period and from people's reactions and what I've read online I wasn't the only one. Total rank reset was in order, shame we didn't get one.
game is already gg it gave me haze
Don't believe your lying eyes, the character that becomes invincible on a 60 second cooldown is actually weak because I don't want to buy unstoppable.
>>577245968Overly narrow definition of zoning you have decided to plant your flag on. If you make space you're zoning. End of story.
>>577247070Literally every character in the game is a zoner by this definition.
>>577246451>>577246579>I wish my character had no personality or design to show off said personality
>>577247165Anime website.
>>577247285I've seen anime designs with more soul and character than the slop youre defending. Also not an argument.
>>577246991i see the match ID. i will laugh at you if you lose
>Read /dlg/>"This character is so fucking ass, bro, when are they getting buffed? Like you can just completely shut them off without even trying. You have to be fucking retarded to have any trouble with them.">Look up stats for the character>Nearly every single time they have a positive winrate well within the upper half of the castHmm
>not an argument
>>577246991>>577247607Yo, watch party?
>>577246991>46fps on loading screen
577247690I accept your concession.
>>577247757how it feels dash jumping around a corner to eat a flask+cage.
Does Lightning Scroll on Graves make her zombie explosions stun?
when are we getting another anthro female character that's obsessed with BWHC like vyper
>>577248357Yeh , only tombstone zombies though, not wall zombies.And only once per hero per tombstone
>>577248464>And only once per hero per tombstonedamn thats cucked, would have been cool otherwise
>>577247646We also said the character has a high winrate because most people are retarded. Her kit needs to be reworked so you have to actively control her summons and aim her gun.
>>577248464Lightning scroll is SO tremendously bad. Easily the worst purple t4
>>577248617It's good on a couple of heroes, but not rush worthy ever really. You just get it when you are out of slots and have mystic slow already, and a big ulti that benefits from it like Seven
>>577248750>ult seven
>>577248859Mystic slow is sometimes good on 7. You gotta upgrade it eventually. I'm not suggesting building entirely around the ulti you drongo
>>577247607>>577247756>>577247757what did yall think of the game frens
>>577248617Lightning Scroll has a couple of characters where it's arguably worthwhile. Seven is the most basic bitch plebeian answer since stunning people to stay in the ball is "good", but you also have funny shit like Vindicta, who loopholes the whole "once per hero" stuff since each shot is technically a separate cast of her ult, meaning she can just stunlock a single guy and gun them down from the other side of map and the cooldown is fast as fuck too.
>>577247757how it feels to sneak up on a lone paradox only to hear the warpstone sound followed by WE HAVE YOU NOW
>>577249157>who loopholes the whole "once per hero" stuff since each shot is technically a separate cast of her ult, Wait whatIs that how it worksI've never even thought about picking LS on Vindicta
But where is Vindicta's panties?
>>577249752I'm wearing them
>>577249752Ghosts dont need pantsu
>Clock tower goes off the start of a new houroh neat
>>577249356yeah, it's very useful in teamfights for obvious reasons, but also hilarious in 1v1s. with rapid recharge you can basically permastun someone
>>577245830anime is a sin
>>577245830>silver if she wasnt wokeLet me provide a proper example, animetroon
>>577250753>le heckin girlfailure hot mess>perfect eyebrows and winged mascara
>>577248464Reverb does work on wall zombies thoughInconsistent shit
>>577251024Sex with the right
>>577251027not this debate again
>>577251027This sister she should be ugly and fat like you, you go girl!
i see myself in silver because i am also in the process of transformation :)
>>577251027>Youre not allowed to put effort in your appearanceOkay, fatty
What build do I use for Silver, and don't say togetherdl you useless niggers.
>>577251674>What build do I use for Silvertoge->don't say togetherdl you useless niggerso-oh...
>>577251674700266
>>577251827Doesn't work.
Anyone got a good support doorman build?
>>577252215>n
>>577252260A good support build is flexible depending on the match.Just get your basic shit you feel you need, extra charges + spirit or whatever. Then load up on counter items and disables
Silver buffs when
>>577251024wet fur is miserable
>>577252834wet fur smells great stfu
>>577252885What a strange hill to choose to die on
>>577253175I accept your concession
>>577253175hey guys i put a door on the hill if you need to out
If we have a gargoyle, vampires and a frankenstein, can we also get a spidergirl?Spiders are pretty gothic.
>>577251827Lost the game with this shit build
do you get banned for chat abuse in this game? I called someone a faggot last game
t4 spirit item that, whilst in combat with heroes, causes your casts to accelerate your cooldowns, stacking, until you exit combat. the cooldown stacks amplify the damage you take. you may activate the item at any time to remove all stacks, but then it remains on cooldown until you're out of combat again
>>577254486you get banned only if you do that in many gamesand in every one of those games someone gets assblasted enough to report you for itif you're in NA people WILL report you
>>577251827>>577253918Ok I'm just afking in lobby fuck your shit build
>>577254486pretty sure you never get banned-banned, but rather a ranked timeout, but you really have to be an insufferable retard to actually get banned. a couple of slurs from time to time won't get you nuked
>>577254486Only way to get banned is if you're such a annoying sperg that people report you every single gameThe report system is rather forgiving in that way
>>577254582Geist and Celeste will instantly become SSS++++ tier and rape the whole lobby
>>577254847just stun them and kill them man they'll take so much damage. you cant activate items (and thus drop stacks) when stunned
>>577254927with how much value CDR has, they'll have enough money to buy all debuff clear they wantthe whole team will have to buy silence wave
>>577255149i mean in that case (assuming unstoppable) it's a 12800 investment.that should be strong, regardless. you're essentially spending another 6400 for another item you spent 6400 to "work". you could argue it's 12800 for one item. I agree CDR is strong but so is damage amp (not -resistances, a stacking amp). I do think it is strong but not outrageous.
When is the next content update? When will they finally add more heroes?
Why is there no T4 equivalent of Burst Fire?
>>577255418this but a t4 split shot that's always on
Our Infernus just carried us with 80k player damage because not one of them bought dispel. Not even the Vindicta.it wasn't ranked but this must be bricklow
>>577255731how is dispel supposed to help against infernus? the burn doesn't have a cooldown
>>577256018seeker GAWD
>>577256018>t. Infernus mainnice try buddy
>>577256018you play tf2 before?know how jarate works against afterburn?pyro's flamethrower also doesn't have a cooldown, doesn't even have a reload actually
>2 + 3,>spacebar, teleport away with 2>the moment you get closer>ethereal shift>2 + 3>spacebar, teleport away with 2>majestic leapHigh survivability, high gun damage, high spirit damage, can TP across the map repeatedly? Nigga that ain't Pocket that's pre-giga-nerf Doorman
>>577256018dispel magic isn't for fighting infernus it's for running away from infernus. afterburn has no real counter aside from raw spirit resist
>>577256216jarate doesn't cost 3.2k souls
>>577256273it costs a dolla
>DC from match start, it's going to cancel in a couple minutes>spend it fucking about>sweatlord lane enemies don't get>lane partner loses his shit even when the match ends because I let them kill me onceits standard queue with a dc from 0schill
>>577256569how much is that in small jungle creeps
>>577256265you dispel the napalm + afterburn and can fight him
>>577256659Nothing, it's all monopoly money
>>577256679unfortunately napalm has 2 charges for free and is 6s between casts. don't ask why. and it slows, damage amps, and lifesteals. so realistically dispeling while dueling him only buys you an extra second. sometimes that's enough but often it means you kill him and then die to his reapplied afterburn.
>Stone Form doesn't clear afterburnbuffs incoming
>>577257006>8 second durationMother fucker WHY is it that long
>>577251827>>577254647nvm i went wolf mode at 60 minutes in the last team fight and wonned
Why don't they completely rework, remove or change abilities more often? Most of them are bad and boring anyway, they should experiment with abilities more. This is a fucking playtest.
>>577257408>suddenly not longer capitalizeshmmm im nooticing
>>577257475combination of laziness and arrogance.
>>577257475>This is a fucking playtestno, this is a pre-release demoactual playtest is for the 0.0001% of the playerbase
Gm dlg
>>577257475because if they change abilities people who didn't read the "THIS IS AN ALPHA BTW THINGS CAN CHANGE" fineprint will fucking seethe if their favorite hero get changed.
All silver builds are the same>spirit silverNot real and can’t hurt me
>>577257853green silver of 1 minute = 1 death is very very real though
>>577257475here's your experiment bro>holliday barrels replaced with another celeste 3/kelvin ice bomb/warden flask/rem pillow/geist/paradox circleslop grenade>sinclair bolt replaced with another celeste 3/kelvin ice bomb/warden flask/rem pillow/geist/paradox circleslop grenade>mirage scarabs replaced with celeste 3/kelvin ice bomb/warden flask/rem pillow/geist/paradox circleslop grenade>graves jar replaced with celeste 3/kelvin ice bomb/warden flask/rem pillow/geist/paradox circleslop grenade
>>577253891That'd be great, actually. Let her walk on walls and shit, stick on them, shitting up stuff with slowing spiderwebs that let you walk on them. If they were really optimistic about how much bitching about CC can be handled, at least. Optimally you'd get to make speedy walkways from place to place, like Kelvin's bridges but more permanent, or something like that, add a third to the McGinnis/Graves map control and fuckery category. >>577257853What are the actual good Silver builds now?>t.prime brick melee yamato usually going 17-13 or something in that range
>>577257853Most heroes have shit build variety. It's honestly amazing how they achieved this with so many items, truly a mark of shit game designers. Don't forget there used to be more item slots too.
>>5772580303/4 of these is an improvement
>>577257853All paths lead to spirit because radiant regen is the most broken tank item in the game
>>577258043>speedy walkways from place to place, like Kelvin's bridges but more permanentthis is basically Dota 2's Broodmother, she cums all over her lane with webs and runs around at high speeds while trapping people that step into them
>>577258373I can run rr without going full spirit
haze pocket lane cock and ball torturehow come pocket gets to just buy mystic burst and ruin youhow come haze just gets free damage every time dagger is off cd
>>577258497>how come haze just gets free damage every time dagger is off cdHave you tried not getting hit by it?
>>577258497>how come pocket gets to just buy mystic burst and ruin youdont be transphobic
>>577258043Silver has no good builds because the hero is shit
>>577258747does this look like shit to you, huh?
>>577258747This. Just pick Shiv or Drifter and you will win more. You're actively sabotaging your team if you play Silver.
>>577258043There are no good silver build, they all go stalker which is somehow bad in early game and late game, hunters aura which literally never gets the bonus because every lane is duo, berserker with no way to self activate, slow hex because the free one in her kit is not enough somehow, warp stone because 2 movement abilities is not enough somehow, and various armors which get worse as the game goes on as her hp lags into bottom 3
>>577258810I love her but she's fucking worthless this patch, they could revert the last like 5 nerfs she got and she'd still be mediocre at best.
Was silver even good on release?
>>577258481i need broodmother in deadlock
>>577258908>berserker with no way to self activateI buy it on Yamato because a melee Yamato needs affordable and good damage boosts. Berserker works really well because you are supposed to face-tank damage and stay alive through healing, and people tend to rack up the activation stacks on you very fast. I'd imagine a modern Silver can at least brawl until she gets Berserker stacks.>stalker and aura badBullet resist reduction though. If you have free slots you could do worse.>>577258481Sounds cancerous, I want this.
>>5772584975/11/2 that felt fucking abysmal fuck melane partner was seething
>>577259071The T3 ult heal was amazing, if the enemy team shattered and didn't concentrate you could methodically kill them one by one in a big team fight. My best was killing an entire team while my Slavic, dead teammates made increasingly ape-like noises of cheer and approval.
>>577258030Yeah but Mirage scarabs are just Shiv knives minus the stacking.
>>577259071Not particularly, she was actually balanced around having a strong early game and dogshit late game but hero shooter niggers and leaguetrannies are too stupid to realise that.
>>577259071Yes but don't let the Silver players here hear that.
>>577259112Both those items combined are -15.4%, or you can go weaken headshot for -13% for 1/3rd the price
>>577253918Not my fault you suck
>>577259309I guess you missed her dns debut
>>577259071I've been playing her since release. She was pretty OP when she came out. Then by mid February she was fine but people kept complaining. In March they released some devastating nerfs for her but she was still playable if you had experience. By end of April-beginning of May she became weak as fuck and then dogwater to dogshit that she is not. So yeah, she used to be good. Now playing her is a humiliation ritual. With how much effort you need to perform on her wll, especially in mid game, I can just pick Drifter instead, kick back and play relaxed, and achieve greater results than on Silver. They should just remove her or completely rework her, she doesn't fit the game and she has no niche she's good at.
>go 6-12 >this is somehow worse than the victor going 2-8 and with less farm than me so tired of being scapegoated
>>577259354Aura has a range of 15 meters, which is actually very little, and if you are fighting 1v2, you get two people debuffed, that's still nice.Plus you can also get weakening headshot as well, and bullet resist shredder, and hollowpoint.
>>577259504can you even imagine what could be going on inside that empty green headsurely it can't be a desire to appease a minority that doesn't even play the game, right?
>>577259650>just stack 5 sources of shredno lol
>>577259504Removing the heal on kill in ult completely killed her.
>>577259968>noooo please don't turn 2500 health into 1500 just by existing near somebody! noooo! nooooooooooooooooo!!!
>>577260067shred stacking is multiplicative, so you don’t want more than ~2 sources, preferably big ones
>>577259071I maintain that we didn't even get time to fucking see properly if she was good or notShe started getting drastically reworked within a few god damn days iirc
>>577259504Forgot to mention 2 thingsHer pickrate is now shitlow and I understand why. Even I have her only on low prio and Switch against certain lanes/comps off her often if I play ranked. I think heroes with such low pick rates should be nerfed, they should be reworked. The second thing is they nerfed her gun range/drop-off but her gun description still says mid-range when it's not anymore lol>>577259848They do play it but they only play meta. I'm pretty sure none of the people that demanded Silver nerfs main her. IMO they should've stopped nerfing her in March and she would still be pretty weak.
>>577260302Pick rate doesn’t say much and I think her rate would be lower naturally because 8 buttons
>>577260460Nah it says a lot if it's ranked IMO. but what I'd really love to see is ban rates.
>>577260302She's still S tier though
curse haze is too fucking stupid
>>577260540Just because people pick her doesn’t mean she’s good and vice versa
>>577260682>Just because people pick her doesn’t mean she’s good
>>577260671Haze+any hard CC active is genuinely disgusting and idk how they balance it. She just kill you if you don't pop metal skin before getting CC locked.
>>577260874>Haze+any hard CC activeis knockdown Haze a thing? can it be a thing? you dagger, knockdown, then immediately ult?
>>577260682People don't pick her though, because she is a bad hero.
>>577260927Probably knockdown to confirm the dagger.
>>577260839>what's a larp>what's a tranny that wants to be a sexy lady with 0 intent to learn
>>577255398there will be an item update and a "big content" update but we dont know when. I think probably when the season ends.
Unironically they need to remove haze smoke bomb. Dagger + invis + ult is too good for deleting squishies 1v1, they legitimately need to remove on of these.
>>577260927both knockdown and slowing hex get cucked by dispel so most likely notyou're better off just getting curse and making sure they literally can't leave your rape aoe
>>577260993if you're already in combat, sure, but otherwise I think the invisible point blank sleep is good enough
>>577261059>season end>2 monthsughgluhmmrff
guy's riot's deadlock just droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfohZ9AEODcGrey Talon if she wasn't woke.
>>577261402>grey talon>wokehe's a man though
>>577260874the game has needed wards and vision mechanics since yesteryearthere's too much oneshot wombo combo bullshit that's impossible to counter with how quick rotations are and how easy it is to move unseenthere's an unspoken moronic expectation for 6 players to counterbuy for one - ONE hero, simply so they can maybe survive abrupt deletion
>>577261402Chinese natives look like THAT??!!
>>577259071After extensively testing silver I must say I just don't see why anyone would play her. The main problem I've detected from playing her over time is her damage nerfs combined with higher damage requirements to get wolf form.It forces you to buy way more damage on her, which means you're not buying survivability, so she ends up being just a shit assassin that has no scaling unlike someone like Drifter or Haze.
>>577261056... in ranked?
How do you deal with pocket in lane?
>>577261402>mobile game UIinto the trash it goes
>>577261702she's indonesian :)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2ZTgiCL1lo
>>577261679Pretty sure smoke bomb will just ignore them man.
>>577260285I agree silver has never been that good ever since release and gets nerfed constantly anyway
>>577261841>stereotypical pool noodle hairif you're unironically calling grey talon woke can you get a tripcode so i can filter you
>>577261778He has -spirit resist so you can go improved spirit and explode him
>>577261780It is a mobile game
do you guys think its intentional that johnny cage voices THE LASH?
worst part of the game is definitely farming *on your side of the map* only for like a haze or wraith or something to show up out of nowhere, hard CC you, and delete you in 3 seconds before you can can manage to make it even half way back to your walker.
>>577262107yes I think it's intentional that they're using a voice actor that they hired
>>577262196thats not what i asked
>>577256241>High survivabilityI just had a pocket in my game go 0/14, Fuck pocket players
>>577261056>what's a tranny that wants to be a sexy lady with 0 intent to learnMe unironically. I love the VAs little grunts and squeaks as I dash and jump around the map. I swear the female VAs are several tiers above other games as well. I could get off to Viper's raspy whisper voice lines alone.
>>577261875ideally there'd be sentrys/pinks
What more am I supposed to do
>>577258487You can rush your gun spike with spirit still and you don't lose any damage since you can just go OR, stalker, and MSMS is literally express shot if it was a good itemYou still go spirit spike last I got a good buy so I skipped spirit strike and went straight for torment pulse
>>577262815Stop brooling and start doing objectives?
>>577262957Silver sucks at taking objectives. If I win the fight my team should be doing that considering we had fucking Mirage, Ivy and Geist
>>577262824>spirit silver>2 purples
>queue in>lane with drifter>his drifter winrate is 2-9its over
>>577263057>silver sucks at objective I don’t think this is 100% true, she is very good at 1v1 and split push will give more 1v1s
>>577263421>split push as silver >no one cares as you deal 0 building damage and if no one fights you you serve no purpose
>>577263421>split pushing>an objectiveSplit pushing is an objective like killing the patron is an objective, technically but that's now what we're talking about.We're talking about rift fights and mid boss, I suppose I would technically accepting delivering or blocking the urn.
>>577263723You dont actually deal 0 tho, if they ignore you its free
>>577263839post footage of Silver solo pushing a walker while the rest of the team brools
silvershitskins are truly the worst quality posters in this general, by a long shot
>>577263782The op literally said stop brooling and take obj,>>577262957 sounds like we were talking split push to me
fucking finally in gold im so fucking dogwater at this game >>577261218games fun and in a good state rn I dont mind grinding ranked till the big update
>>577264001gratznow get to eternus
I wish this character wasn't literally useless against a team with a collective IQ above 65 that knows to buy at least one CC item per character because holy fuck its literally unplayable.One dispel vs 6 silences/slowing hex.
gotta love when people don't know how to melee or parry and throw away easy kills because of it. i dont know wtf im doing converting videos with ffmpeg
>>577263839Silver has the worst building damage in the game.
>>577259071She was so bad on release that she couldn't even confirm minions and the first few pro games on her resulted in 0/10 shitshows.
>Rem>balanced>Graves>pub rapist/toruney rape victim>Silver>pub rape victim>Apollo>balanced>Venator>balanced>Celeste>rapist
>>577264416use this https://argorar.github.io/WebMConverter/
>>577264073how many players are even at eternus already
>>577264507Um she was op on release tho :)
>>5772645855
>>577264667Why aren't they picking S+++ilver?
>>577264667>ABL having the best winrate out of all these FRAUDSmy racist king...
for some reason the winning team always has the most objective damage
>>577262084there is not a single good mobile game. not a single one.
>kill their kelvin with focus lens like 5 times in a row>he never buys dispel>right before the game ends he gets an indom but it hardly matters because ill just rend and mark him anyway
>>577264817really makes you think
>>577264437That’s just behavior, it’s low because people don’t push towers. There is no modifier making her deal less to objShe’s above doorman btw and he splits
>>577264667noticing the pocket overrepesentation.
>>577264667>billy, mirage, pocket everywherethank god bricklos have no idea how to play these i'd go insane
>>577264949Doorman can push waves and escape, Silver has the worst wave push in the game as well as the worst building damage lmao this hero is so fucking worthless it's designed to do one thing and they nerfed her so hard that she can't even do that lol
>>577265137>it's designed to do one thing and they nerfed her so hard that she can't even do thatthe only hero in the game with canon power levela true girlfailure... I kneel
>>577265137To be fair I think she can work okay in scrims, but only okay and her solo que agency is fucking NOTHINGyou have to bet all your money on getting turbo fed in lane otherwise its gg.At that point you might as well buy curse and become a curse bot, pray to get carried.I don't think you can name a hero in this game with so little agency.
>>577263396>goes 1/10 then leavesclassicguess his nationality
>>577263302That's the trapSpirit Silver players are forcing items that aren't good on herOpening rounds and heal bane are great and they give spirit
>>577265554polish
>>577265605Russian I think given his name but hey could be polish for all I know
>>577265395You have to get turbo fed to have the impact of a normal hero going 2/5 in lane genuinely who the fuck thinks this hero is op? Are they such retards they see the one out of ten silvers that get fed and then win 50% of the time as the game is now 6v6 and think the hero is op because she got fed? Is this some survivor bias shit?
>>577265814Pros players and high elo have egosThey try to 1 v1 the silver with her wolf form on, lose and cry to yoshiInstead of just kiting the base 2 stamina hero
why is a nigfernus who bought silencer allowed to make me deal 55% less spirit damage85% less spirit damage with inhibitor
>>577261402Infernus if he wasn't a disgusting woke nigger
>>577265963>They try to 1 v1 the silver with her wolf form on, lose and cry to yoshihow do they even manage to do that? it's physically impossible to be this retardedlike getting raped by a eunuch
genuinely hard to think of a game where your individual actions matter less
>>577266007that's seven though
>>577264667Does racism make you better at video games?
>>577266106It's both, actually
>>577265746i hear a lot of american accents coming from cryllic and chinese names to be honest. you cannot take names at face value.
dispel magic shouldn't work on active items
>>577261402>literally stole Hanzo’s intro animation from Overwatch Why are they so shameless?
>>577265963Don't forget hero shooter niggers that think it's a deathmatch game and that objectives are an afterthought.
>>577266119Racism makes you a better person in general
>>577251027there are women out there that spending half their income on makeup and their abused substance of choice while they live in a heaping pile of garbage in their homes. the roxanne and max "damn bitch, you live like this" comic is art imitating life, and you need to trust people on this.
>>577266080Scales proportional with the lobby size, in 64 player battlefield it matters less
>>577266518SILVER lives in a trashed out apartment with shed fur everywhere.VYPER lives in a clean shack, and she is fond of the landlord because he evidently does not inspect his vacant properties.
>>577266548no it doesn't
>>577264667>sanya_sniper>gdansk>chad male characters only>EUssy players>femboys and womenReally makes you think...
>>577266752>VYPER lives in a clean shackshe has no fur and her acid trail breaks down any garbage
>>577266771Nice argument
>>577266971we're not arguing, retard
In a coordinated setting isn't Apollo's ult a really OP initiating tool due to the slowdown?
>>577267023
>>577267023I accept your concession
>>577267298I guess but then you don’t get the bonus dmg
>>577266845She would not waste perfectly good venom on trash. She saves it up to do bar tricks.>>57726729870% damage resist is pretty huge. Unless you have a bunch of debuffs or DoT you can apply.
>>577266145definitely an authentic slavic accent
>solo take 3 walkers>team still says i suck>we losei should've called them niggers. i called them fags but i should have gone all the way and called them alabama cousin fucking niggers.NIGGERS
>>577257112stoneform should unironically give ivy stoneskin and cleanse bleeds. SOVL
>>577268540Sperging out and acting like an asshat smugly lets them know they're right. Don't lose your cool next time. Work on your banter>oh ohh im going to say my slurTrite
>look up current phantom+ player's infernus builds>one guy buys all 3 weapon, spirit and reactive shields within first 5 items, suppressor, and doesn't buy any weapon items at all until 16+ mins in, not even any 800/1600s, just buys titmag+tesla+overflow all at once mid-latealways nice to see people having success doing their own thing
do i really have to let go of the w key when i strafe? does it actually do something or can i just hold on it bc i literally cant not let go of it
>>577268691>no swift strikerhero is fucking unplayable without this item desu
>>577268691generally not too difficult. half the success you have in this game is just doing basic macro shit. people really don't consider how vital it is to hold space for teammates across the map by keeping a wave pushed and forcing enemies out of a potential fight. top builds just allow you to do that more efficiently or better, but the items are flexible enough and have enough supplemental stats to make a lot of varied playstyles work depending on team comps and leads.
>>577268540if all you've got to bring to the table is blaming the blacks and gays who might not even be in the game, you've already lost.plus its 2026, most people dont care about being called a faggot or nignoggotta hit them with something personal, like asking them if they're like this due to never being hugged or working a mcwage
Am I griefing by playing Doorman as a spirit nuker pick? I know they nerfed his damage but I still want it to work.
>>577268939he seems to mostly do flame dash (he also gets rapid recharge before any gun) until mid-late then starts using his gun
>>577269013I mean it still scales pretty good. like 700+ damage bells if you impact + explode. That's better than what dynamo manages with his stomps.
>>577268691infernus automatically has full aggro on all enemies in line of sight because everyone hates him, so tank infernus kind of makes sense.
>>577268920you can't hold w since it kills your momentumit's a source engine thing, they can't fix it even if they felt like it
>>577269013Yes it’s basically stomp dynamo, a third of a buildYou can get strong bells without going full retard
Got Enhanced Sharpshooter on Drifter and won_
>>577264289you're supposed to buy weighted shots and blood tribute while going gunpolloits not 2025 anymore, dont go spirit apollo
>McGinnis is broken!!!how lol?? last patch she's a weak support hero now she's too strong? nah not buying it. you can't really do anything with her, her gun sucks and you can just...walk away from her turrets. people are just hallucinating that she's strong like they do with silver
>>577270393Character winrates across all leagues are freely available
>>577270393>her gun sucksinitiate tier opinion immediately disregarded.
Glass Cannon shouldn't even have a downside.
>>577270810glass cannon shouldn't have stacking firerate
>>577270393>you can just...walk away from her turrets.We need to be smart, they have the rejuvinator
>>577268540All you're accomplishing is letting everybody know they got to you.
I'm obsessed with this shizo. Warden is all he plays. His entire profile is restore britain themed. Every time I meet him he starts talking about muslims unprompted.
>>577270393Playerbase is retarded and took months to figure out heal is good
>>577270393>you can just...walk awayWhenever somebody says this, I assume the character they're talking about is actually obscenely retarded.
i swear no one ever runs urn in this gamedo people realize how free and how much money it gives you
>>577271470fucked image somehow
>>577271470I do. People don't even bother contesting anymore so it's just free money.
i've never seen a good haze player in my entire lifethey are always bottom damage, top deaths and refuse to buy good items late game
>>577271597You'd think more people would be interested in a jar of souls.
>2 games in a row with disgusting 1/10 subhumans on my laneYOSHI! I CANNOT TAKE IT ANY LONGER! I AM NOT YOUR STRONGEST SOLDIER PLEASE SHOW MERCY!
>>577271470most people are godawful at movement and afraid to leave their lane, and you're surprised they wont run urns?
>>57727199599% of the time i just run straight down the river without any issuesi also play mo so its extra fast
>>577270393>you can just...walk away from her turrets.Just give up position, bro, it's no big deal, you don't *need* to be standing where she doesn't want you to stand lol just let her have her way lmao what's the big deal she's so weak except at the thing she's really good at haha
>>577272135>>577271430you sound like the type of shitters to say Graves is strong too. yes, just walk away. you can still shoot can't you?
>>577271597>>577271470I play in high brick low whatever is the next rank and people contest the jar all the time. Granted, I am not stealthy about moving with it, especially on my magic carpet horse.
>>577271993if you don't want to duo with me anymore just say so over voice...
>>577270810this and change the item name to cannon
You can't add a skirt and then a black void underneath it's ruining my immersion
printing greens
>>577272790@grok is this real
>>577272636It does honestly look bad. Should just give her bloomers instead.
yoshi would never put a subhuman retard in my game for the 3rd time in a rowim gonna queue up for another one
>>577272841Just fully show her pussy so "that" anon can finally stop shitting up every thread with his pointless bs
>>577273032if you're not the one doing the carrying expect to be a forced 50 retard hardstuck forever
>>577273129i just want someone in my lane that doesn't die 5 times in the first 5 minutes is that too much to ask
>>577273236Stop dying 5 times in the first 5 minutes then
>>577273236Rush guardian wardI'm dead serious
>>577273236i have that almost every game i flame them every laning phase and they always end the worst on the scoreboard when we winmy latest game i had some retard haze going after 3 or 4 times "fixing" his pcwhy are these people allowed to queuei swear if i check this guy up on steam rn hes gonna be from east europe or middle east
>>577273803>shithole in polandxd
>>577262302People really don't know how to play himwhich is so confusing to me, that nigga can literally afk farm player damage like it's nothing
>>577274226>him
>>577274226it so easy its literally puckits so easy to build defensives against silence and shit too in this game
>>577274356He has a penis you weenus
>>577272295You're right, why is everybody in Phantom+ such a stupid fucking shitter? Just walk away from McGinnis. What's she gonna do, get rift? Wall you? You didn't need to take that walker anyway. Just walk away, nigga.
shiv's ult is such bs dude"oh you're struggling at all in a teamfight? just instantly fucking die and he can do it again right after"
>>577273803>i have that almost every game>i flame them every laning phase
>>577274492Not true, it got caught on the case one time and came clean off.
>>577272295>"just walk away from the McGinnis!">'kay, I will...https://files.catbox.moe/roq72u.mp4
>>577275347kek
>>577274226They are always blowing their abilities offensively then getting caught out with no cloak or briefcase ready.You almost never want to just throw your cloak out just to do some damage then have no escape ready past the lane stage.Just use barrage for that
I GOT MY WISH MY LANER WASNT 0/5 AT 10 MINUTES BUT 0/4.MY LIFE IS LOOKING UP
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>577271270what do i care if i mute them afterwards? i always hated 'banter' and wish these faggots would just shut up. outside of premuting everyone i don't know the solution to not letting niggers get to me, it's been a lifelong problem. pretty much any slight antagonism sets me off immediately.
>>577276070You dont happen to be on calico right now, right?
that's a new one
>mcNiggis, Pocket, S+++ilver and da Dwifta all on the enemy team>i am supposed to play and not immediately put a 44 to my skull and pull the triggerExplain Yoshi?
>>577276280>1/6/11>>577276251no
>>577276280train hero?
>>577276429notice the smiley face tho half of the game I had to play with one hand because grandma called
>>577263723Just push the waves and rape the guy who comes to janny the lane, you silvertrannies never stop looking for things to whine about.
>Late game graves throws a jar and immediately does 1.8k spirit damage against someone who has spellbreaker, spirit resilience and shieldingyeah tell me more aobut how bad this character allegedly is
Do you think valve already ran out of ideas for heroes?Like at least in Dota the setting lets it be wide open for what could be added but game set in an early 20th century america with soul magic?maybe im not creative enough but I cant think of anything that they didnt already add to the game.I literally just looked at >>577276280 and thought "travel through time" before remembering paradox is a hero
There should be an item that makes it so that every third heavy melee you land against heroes does the damage and proc value of two heavy melee hits.
>>577277059>>577277059>>577277059>>577277059
>>577264827Still dwarfs PC and all consoles combined. If you want money, you make games for mobile.
>>577266154They're chinks Shame isn't part of living in an ant colony
