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>[Updated - New Info] [New Chapter] Ordeal Call III: Bellum Novae Humanitatis, Archetype Inception
https://fate-go.us/archetype_inception/
https://webview.fate-go.us/2026/0714_oc3/

>[Summon] Archetype Inception Pickup 2 Summon
https://webview.fate-go.us/2026/0804_oc3_pu2/
2026-08-04 21:00 - 08-17 20:59 PDT

>[Campaign] "Ordeal Call III: Bellum Novae Humanitatis, Archetype Inception (Part 2)" Release Celebration Campaign
https://webview.fate-go.us/2026/0802_oc3_cp2/
2026-08-04 21:00 - 08-10 20:59 PDT

>[Campaign] Ordeal Call III Clear Support Campaign
https://webview.fate-go.us/2026/0728_oc3_participation_cp/
2026-07-29 01:00 - 09-30 20:59 PDT

>[Summon] Archetype Inception BB Dubai Pickup Summon
https://webview.fate-go.us/2026/0728_oc3_pu1/
2026-07-29 01:00 - 09-08 20:59 PDT

>[Important] Regarding 7/15 Servant Coin Refund
https://webview.fate-go.us/2026/0729_important/

>[Event] BB Presents Celeb Summer Experience! Dubai's Counterattack
https://webview.fate-go.us/2026/0704_2026summer/
2026-07-15 02:00 - 09-01 20:59 PDT

>[News]
https://webview.fate-go.us/

>[Servant Info]
Servant Material Lookup: https://fgosim.github.io/Material/
Servant Planner: https://github.com/chaldea-center/chaldea
Coin Calculator: https://fgo-servant-coins.glitch.me/index.html
Rank Up + Interlude Timeline: https://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/relate_quest.html
Rate Up Tracker: https://tohnocoding.github.io/fgobanners/

>[Mats/Summoning Info]
Rateups in FGO JP: https://files.catbox.moe/lf1qmz.png
Quartz for next Summer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iRH60QpLNvHy9MMDKLJGNSg4s7FsDfdXtJtOUVDj5po/edit?gid=162156045#gid=162156045
FGO Event Compendium: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qvxLU407QwiFaCvItqR16SqqAVlLD5u5nBzY_bCFYvs/edit#gid=2111060397
Drop Rates: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_SlTjrVRTgHgfS7sRqx4CeJMqlz687HdSlYqiW-JvQA
FGO Raw Database: https://apps.atlasacademy.io/

>[FAQ]
https://rentry.org/alter-faq
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>>577313015
quick someone post mash with vents please
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Sleeping Yuyu...
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>>577313015
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I guess I should have forgot where I came from.
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Rank this Summer lineup.
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>>577313097
Sexy Ina.
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Sex with BB-chan
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>>577313093
Mash vent? Sus????
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>>577313162
0/10. I'm seething.
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I'm excited for this guy.
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>>577313195
Kuroboshi designed Yuyu first.
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>>577313292
Abigail is a girl
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>>577313162
By "this summer" you mean /oursummer/ or jp summer?
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>>577313292
The only SSRs I want over then next 2 years are Kazura and Saber Molay.
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>>577313223
why would you do this to her
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>>577313206
God my kouhai can't be this cute
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Summer Beni is so good that she just revived one of the Benibros in my FL that had been gone for almost a year.
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>>577313457
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>>577313372
Up to representation
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Fate:
>Great Saber vs Rider scenes
>Shirou and Saber are the heart of the VN
>Archer vs Berserker, extremely memorable
>Saber defeats Gilgamesh
>Shirou defeats Kotomine
>Saber gets to move on from her wish and die in peace
>The importance of the Matou, Tohsaka and Einzberns is mentioned in Fate/HF

HF:
>Great Saber vs Rider scenes
>Shirou and Ilya become brother and sister
>Shirou grows out of the ideals that Kiritsugu regretted
>Zouken is defeated
>Rin and Sakura are reunited as sisters
>Sakura is freed from the Matous
>The importance of the Matou, Tohsaka and Einzberns is mentioned in Fate/HF
>Ilya closes the gate

UBW:
>
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>>577313386
Do you have femJacq?
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>Castoria didn't have one (1) good memory with us
Damn...
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>>577313557
Yes.
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>>577313561
Bro (you) were basically her only good memories
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>>577313561
good, we hate her
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>>577313557
How does real Molay feel about a dumb girl stealing his identity?
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>>577313782
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MODS >>577313457 is thinking.
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>>577313729
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When are we getting the other two SSR kits?
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>>577313528
Oh I think I removed him. We'll see if he comes back for real, I'll add him again.
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>>577313880
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>>577313967
Tomorrow if they are usable as support. Friday otherwise.
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Reminder to remove iPhone Bobfag from your friend's list.
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>>577313782
If he were an /alter/bro he'd be jealous he's not a cute girl too.
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>>577313561
You need to reread LB6, (you) are basically the only good thing that happened to her in her entire life. And you're helping her commit suicide.

You cannot hate fa*ries enough. Even just typing this short explanation is making me angry.
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>>577310807
Looking at her animations, her boobs don't jiggle as much. She does have a flip though.
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KP is killing the game.....
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>>577314148
Gareth was a fairy too.
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>>577313528
The birb is too powerful!
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>>577314148
Castoria has more reason to be an avenger than most avengers.
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>>577314241
>Reddit
But isn't that what Nasu wanted anyway?
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>>577313967
I never liked KP because of the retarded bandages, KP Alter fixed that problem and she is pure SEX
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>>577314171
>i'm out
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>>577314271
God she's perfect. I want summer Jack now so badly
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>>577314171
do non-prostitute women really dress like this?
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>>577314148
Even the memories with (you) are tainted by her having to go along with the whole Child of Prophecy shit, so no not good memories for her either.
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>>577313546
>Archer vs Berserker, extremely memorable
Lmfao
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>>577314526
I wasn't talking about that stuff, I was talking about specifically that one day she got to enjoy herself and not be the child of prophecy. That was the sum total of her happy memories. All she had to give her strength.

I fucking hate faeries so goddamn much!
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>>577314148
if Nasu ever rereleases LB6 as a standalone VN with better production values I would buy it
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>>577314241
yeah people are pretty vocal about it even on youtube and twitter. i'm genuinely wondering if they will ever implement it in NA. i think they will at least remove the pacifier if they want to keep the whole ascension
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Rank summers so far (excluding summer 10 as I don't have the icons):

https://tiermaker.com/create/fgo-summer-servants-19534596
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>>577314661
I probably would too. Reading LB6 made me grail Castoria. I'm considering taking her to 120 now, as well, since I wound up with NP4 and have a ton of extra coins...
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>>577314241
That bottom reply has to be some elaborate shitpost. "My boyfriend" and "squicky" really?
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>>577314241
I don't like it but the simple solution is to just not use that ascension.
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In a fight, who would win, Charlemagne or Gawain?
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>>577314802
If they didn't censor Abby they're not censoring her, quit being a retard
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>>577314802
>NA removing the pacifier

the rare censorship I wouldn't complain about. isn't there an animation for it though?
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Im about to start OC3 what am i in for
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>>577313546
You left out the actual good scenes from HF, bro
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>>577314938
Gawain
Charlemagne was outclassed by scathach and needed to tag team her with Cu
Also needed arjuna to beat Karna
He's not on that level
Karl would win though
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>>577314938
Gawain. Chuck is too humble to really try against somebody like Gawain.

Karl der Grosse, however...
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>>577314802
The only things Albert can actually censor are text and skin color
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>>577314661
I would too. It would be really cool to see it in its proper form, not cut up to fit in a mobile game.
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>>577314802
>i'm genuinely wondering if they will ever implement it in NA.
How are some of you this retarded, you dumbfucks somehow bother me more than the retards crying about it because at least I can just instantly tell they're morons.
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>>577314241
KP is 4chan-approved

>>577314802
They can't remove it. It's in her attack animations.
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>>577314241
wtf is a squicky I hate leddit womanchild talk so much
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>>577315048
i just got through section 2 and i'm not having fun. so that.
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>>577314241
>KP is killing the game.....
Why are they freaking out about Kingprotea? She's a one hundred foot tall giantness with an hourglass figure, G sized tits, and a ginoromous ass
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>>577314441
but her summer version doesnt have bandages and the ones in her third ascension are very cute...
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>>577315048
Lots of blather about AI that is skippable, honestly.

It's basically Summer Part 2, except now shit is moderately more real, except BB Dubai doesn't give enough of a shit to actually kill you or stop you from running around doing whatever you want.

It wouldn't be so bad if the formation restrictions weren't so tedious.
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>>577315484
>She's a one hundred foot tall giantness with an hourglass figure, G sized tits, and a ginormous ass
Those are only big because she's giant, she unironically uses the baby speak in that Ascension.
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>>577314802
>yeah people are pretty vocal
Is a petition incoming???
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>complaining about Babu ascencion
I mean, its absolutely random as fuck
but the entire gacha discusion everywhere is just doomers,so no, I wont argue on favor of censorship, fuck that, I just wont use the ascencion
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>>577314241
>femoid redditor melty
LMAO!
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>>577315752
I see it as an endorsement if anything.
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>when someone looks over your shoulder and sees the ick on your phone so you have to firmly reassure them that the ick is not why you enjoy the thing
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>>577314241
normalfags losing their mind over tame shit is a tale as old as time
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>>577314241
Saving everything after BBjr for the TwinProteas, they really are top 4chancore
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>>577315828
so heckin relatablerino
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The only real problem with summer KP third ascension is she isn't barefoot desu
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>>577315720
[Sad News]
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Honestly there's no problems because i would never roll for a UGLY FREAK SAKURAFACE anyway.
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>>577313546
UBW
>Rin and Shirou bonding under the moonlight, after both have lost everything, so both are desperately trying to cheer each other up without acknowledging how absolutely fucked the situation is
>Archer unleashing Unlimited Blade Works to showcase his shattered and broken soul, which has been worn down by an eternity of servitude under the Counter Force
>Archer's backstory, specifically how his ideals damned him to an eternity of suffering
>Shirou fighting Archer and confronting him about their shared ideals
>Shirou's answer to Archer
>Shirou vs Gilgamesh, which serves the meta purpose of Shirou, a "fake" hero with "fake" but noble ideals, surpassing the first "true" hero with corrupted ideals to save the world
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>>577314241
>game with fetish-heavy designs for 11 years
>a slightly weirder fetish walks in
>EW EW EW EW EW EW EW
Stop playing the game then.
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>>577316378
More giantess pussy for me.
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>>577316461
Why won't FGO pander to my punishment spanking fetish?
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>>577316524
Honestly? Respect
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>>577315828
playing Fate/Grand Order in public but repeatedly shaking my head so no one things I'm actually an ABDL fetishist
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>>577315075
>You left out the actual good scenes from HF, bro

Like what?
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>>577315484
because it has never been about crusading against stuff which is considered illegal or harmful. it's all about virtue signalling and eliminating anything that can be slightly uncomfortable from the internet.

I love Protea.
I love Abby.
I love Kiara.
I love Fate lolis.
I love Wada and her outfits.
Keep supporting 4chan culture and Nasu's vision.
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Hello i think Marie Alter is cute. can someone post a cute pic of her? thanks
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>Yo kyoudai, what's going on over in JP thre-
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>>577316693
Wada and Kiara are controversial?
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>>577316574
I guarantee we'd have a design based around it if we could. Kazuradrop is practically designed to be bait for it. I wouldn't be surprised if Wada thought as much herself and that's why all her skirts are so short or loose
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>>577316718
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went to see the eclipse in spain and roll for bb, it got cloudy and didn't see shit, and also I didn't get BB and I only got 4 copies of ex so no np5 either
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>>577316406
>muh archer

You forgot about Caster
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>>577316732
One more Summer and we'll get a store-managing chicken too, I can feel it in my bones
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>>577316939
Thanks!
God i wish to be in the middle
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We love babus here
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>>577316693
Why would anyone complaing about a literal nun? Are they stupid?
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>>577316524
i think there's enough for everybody bro, dont be greedy
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>>577317131
Someone post kiww you aww
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I have an end of service fetish when is fgo pandering to me?
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>>577317063
>store-managing chicken
Dechi?
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Its like they designed Protea completely for my taste. I thank you Nasu
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>>577317238
I have a mighty thirst.
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>>577317295
Since when an inn is a store?
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>>577316406
Here's how crucial Rin and her romance are to UBW:

Day 4 is all about the contrast between Rin and Shirou, the former spending all of it committed fully to the HGW as the latter engages in SoL hijincks with side characters; Rin is a proper mage, while Shirou is a headless chicken aimlessly flailing around. It expands on that contrast created first with the Berseker fight, where Shirou nearly collapses in the face of his powerless while Rin remains calm. Day 5 is all about Rin's commitment to her mage lifestyle. Day 7 is all about deconstructing the contrast that had hitherto been established. As Bloodfort activates and the entire school body collapses, having its skin molten off, it is Shirou who remains calm and collected as Rin is shaken and disturbed. Through this we gain insight into the characters just as they do about each other; Shirou realizes even more how her strong mage personality is a facade she has created to hide her weaknesses and insecurities, while Rin gains her first glimpses into Shirou's distortion as he says he's used to seeing dead bodies.

The centrepiece of Day 10 is Shirou's defect, where the fundamental contrast between Shirou and Rin is established; despite all her issues, Rin is fundamentally healthy enough to realize her contradictions and flaws, as well as a committed hedonist who only does things if they make her happy, while Shirou is too saddled with guilt to have fun for his own. Upon realizing that, Rin commits herself to helping Shirou get over his issues, taking him on a date the very next day, focused entirely on Shirou's issues, but also on how despite his enormous guilt, he still did have fun teasing Rin, subtly positioning her as the solution to Shirou's dilemma in the route that he has to come to accept. The stuff with Medea and the loss of Saber lead to Rin finding out about the Fire AND to Shirou discovering the pendant.
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>>577317345
well Kingprotea isn't exactly an old bussinessman, bro
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i remember people saying that KD was busted when she came out, but is she still considered toptier in JP?
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>>577313015
BASED OP
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>>577316617
>Like what?
Shirou and Sakura under the rain.
Where Sakura is trying desperately to push Shirou away because being with her puts his life at risk for a battle he can't win, and protecting her means, allowing innocents to suffer and die, which is something that Sakura knows tears Shirou apart inside. Mixed with this is Sakura's own paranoia that Shirou, even if he did side with her, would eventually abandon her like her father and her sister did (in her eyes).
Shirou in contrast starts the scene with Illya, ideologically torn on what to do. Should he save the innocent women he loves? Or should he kill her so the city from another potential Fuyuki Fire? And the Shadow, which is killing dozens of people every night? Can Shirou follow in the footsteps of his foster father, Kiritsugu's true, cold-hearted ideals? Or should he follow the idealized version of Kiritsugu who never truly existed?
Illya comes to Shirou and tells him that it's okay to be selfish for once in his life. That he can't keep putting everyone else's happiness over his own. That if he lies to himself and kills Sakura, he'll probably never forgive himself. But regardless of what Shirou chooses, she'll stand by him.
So Shirou chooses Sakura, and he embraces her as she tries so desperately to push him away. She tries to paint herself as a villain, a whore, and someone who doesn't deserve love or sympathy. But Shirou sees through it. He embraces her and swears to protect her, but they both know it's a lie, because Shirou isn't strong enough to protect her from the forces that will come for her life. But the beauty of the moment, the illusion of tranquility, allows them to ignore this and embrace each other as lovers, lovers who CAN have their happy ending, which is why "This Illusion" plays in the background. Its an incredible touching and somber scene, and frankly, its the best written scene in the entire novel
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>>577317572
>Quick
LMAO
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>Here's how
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>>577317572
Sadly got mogged by Louhi
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>>577317238
You always have to imagine the smell, if they aren't straight out of the bath or something it's gonna be sweaty you know?
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Save for her.
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>>577314241
Why do you think FGO failed while Hoyoverse was a runaway success? Hoyoverse properly marketed and made sure its characters had broad global appeal compared to FGO whose biggest headlines are now apparently about the devs releasing characters who appeal only to creeps and not to anybody actually normal
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>>577317679
>Illya comes to Shirou and tells him that it's okay to be selfish for once in his life. That he can't keep putting everyone else's happiness over his own.

Wasn't Shirou selfishly choosing to help people because it made him happy?
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>>577316461
>slightly
Have you ever considered that your perspective may have been massively warped by prolonged internet exposure
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>>577317534
>>577317679
What do you gain just copy and pasting ChatGPT responses here?
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>>577317613
SEX WITH TRASHU
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>>577317818
The king...is too hungry...
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>>577317679
>and frankly, its the best written scene in the entire novel

Shirou vs Gil is the ultimate culmination of Fate, in terms of character writing, messages, and themes. nothing in hf compares.
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>>577317893
Kys Lilith
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>>577317613
i hate mash but she looks like the prettiest fate heroine ever in this ascension
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>>577317802
>implying FGO failed
Hoyoshills go away
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You don't need to pretend like FSN was good. It's been well over twenty years. It's fine to just admit it's bad.
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>>577318005
Holy based
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>>577317881
Anon, I wrote that out myself, just because I took my time to give you a well thought out answer doesn't mean that I used chatgpt. This may sound shocking to you, but some people here LIKE to discuss the story and characters from their favorite franchises. I know long well thought out posts are rare now, but back in the early days of the Internet, everyone used to talk like that while talking about stuff that they were passionate about
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>>577318005
Every time Gil loses is because of bad wirting and asspulls btw.
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>>577318051
When will you fags stop replying to that guy? He types the exact same fucking way ever single post it's not that hard.
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>>577314817
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>>577318135
cope. He's the king of jobbers.
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>>577314661
Holy fuck, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Can you imagine LB6 with Mahoyo or TsukiRe production value?
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>>577314817
Got bored halfway through and started throwing them in tiers
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I don't care if people say she's a brick I'm rolling
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>>577318248
NOT an argument btw.
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>>577318256
>makeagif.com
Anyone who doesn't make their own gif is a loser.
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>>577318354
She'll kill coins for me that's all I need.
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>>577317816
>Wasn't Shirou selfishly choosing to help people because it made him happy?
Yes, but only because up to this point, saving people have never challenged him or his ideals. But to save the city from the Shadow and another potential Fuyuki Fire, Sakura, an innocent woman and a victim, who he was madly I love with, needed to die. The moral dilemma made Shirou shortcircuit. Should he save the woman he loves? Or faceless people that he's never met? Are their deaths on his hand if he lets Sakura live? Is right to slay the minority to save the many? These are the questions that were going through Shirou's mind.
I can't find the screenshot, but there's this quote where Illya feels Shirou that he's lying to himself and that she feels sorry for him. It perfectly encapsulates what I'm trying to say here.
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>>577318256
Is that "animation" suposed to look good? because it looks like shit
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>>577318051
FGO was the biggest gacha at one point and the devs completely failed to capitalise on it and push and advertise the series further, resulting in Hoyo being able to market and advertise their way into that spot and now literally everybody knows what Hoyoverse and Genshin and Honkai are and most people you meet or find online play a Hoyo game and Hoyo games have taken over physical cons and expos while Fate fell into obscurity, how is that not a failure when you look at it like that?
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>character can only lose as a result of bad writing
>character always loses
Maybe Gil is just a badly written character, or even, I dare say, a plain bad character.
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Hoyoshill go away. Buy an ad.
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>>577317679
I prefer Rin the badass, highly intelligent, comrade, "do it myself" type that she was in UBW rather than the vulnerable, scared, and helpless Sakura love interest in HF

HF felt like a much less interesting struggle with his own ideals because of the classic damsel in distress angle with Sakura.
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>>577318673
anon... this gacha is 11 fucking years old. No other gacha has lasted this long. Just let it end already.
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>hoyo hoyo hoyoyoyo hoyoyo hoyo hoyo
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>>577318629
>The mega crustified cut-off-too-early 6 mb to 400 kb gif looks bad!!!
No shit.
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>>577318562
>>577317816
Found it. Here's the bad ending where Shirou chooses to put duty over love and kill Sakura.
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>>577318808
Yeah people just like watching him chose love over saving people but it's not as hard a choice as the other routes.
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>>577318815
Why are you even replying to a shitposter?
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>>577318256
>>577314661
>if Nasu ever rereleases LB6 as a standalone VN with better production values I would buy it

You have to get through Extra Record and Red Garden first
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So basically Hoyogames are like Disney slop movies while FGO is actual soulful kino french art movie. Good to know,.
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>>577316693
Since when has Kiara been controversial to normalfags? If anything being a manipulative self-centered monster means she's "empowered" by their standards. Sucks because nun outfits are sexo
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>>577318931
Now contrast this with what Illya tells Shirou if Shirou choose to put love over duty
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They think AI is bad when humans regularly generate slop posts by hand
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>>577318805
wumao income too row
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>>577318135
>>577318005
Gilgamesh is essentially the final note for the "real vs. fake" theme that runs throughout the game. Shirou spends much of every route copying the tools and tricks of powerful legendary heroes, so when the one who owns "everything" walks up and says that his methods are trash and unoriginal, Shirou puts to practice his resolve and newfound skills to overturn the preconceived notion that original equates to better. Defeating Gilgamesh puts to bed a theme that was built up over the course of Fate and UBW.

You got filtered, basically.
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>>577318808
HF's best scenes are with Illya and Kirei not with Sakura though
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>>577318815
But Fate couldn’t even manage to do what Hoyo did after like 1 year of Genshin even during its most popular years of years 1 to 3
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>>577319069
As someone who played all hoyoslop games - that's exactly the case. Earnings don't mean shit when sovl is lacking. Most stories in hoyoslop games are generic, safe and boring as fuck
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>>577318931
So what do we know about Ilya's route?

>>Fate/stay night was supposed to have four routes (Saber, Rin, Ilya and Sakura) but after he finished Rin's route he became aware of the costs and limited budget. So he decided to consolidate two routes (Ilya and Sakura) into one route (HF). He knew that readers would have mixed feelings about the change in HF's direction by ending the battle royale
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>>577314817
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>>577319075
He was shitposting. Everyone loves Sesshōin Kiara, the main heroine of TM.
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Kama Love!
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>muh themes
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I take a screenshot every time she makes this face or the (nods) one. It's reflexive at this point.
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>>577319536
Castoria has more unique sprites than pretty much any other servant in this game. Gotta use em all some how.
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>>577319069
>>577319394
I only play Genshin but yeah, exploring and the ocasional mini-games are fun but the story is dogshit desu.
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>>577319429
Anne and Mary
>F
Nigga you're my number one enemy now
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>>577318932
>but it's not as hard a choice as the other routes.
It is in my opinion because Shirou is mentally ill and he suffers from a savior complex mixed with survivor's guilt. All Shirou's life, he's tried to live up to his ideal and mentor, Kiritsugu, as the perfect hero who saves everyone. Then his perception of Kiritsugu is shattered, when he learns that Kiritsugu was a coldblooded killed who was willingly to kill the minority to save the majority. This leaves Shirou into an ideological spiral that culminates in Shirou being forced to choose WHICH version of Kiritsugu he'll follow: the fake and kind-hearted one or the real one. And if Shirou chooses to follow the fake one, he'll need to mentally heal, and realize that he can't save everyone, and that it's okay to be selfish.
And yes, Sakura is a damsel, but that's the point. She's someone who is just as broken as Shirou mentally, and the whole route is about them both moving past their trauma and confronting their twisted natures.
Sakura is AWARE she's a Damsel that's putting Shirou in danger. That's why she tries so hard to push him away, because she loves him, and she doesn't want him to get hurt trying (and in her mind failing) to save her.
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>>577319749
>Then his perception of Kiritsugu is shattered, when he learns that Kiritsugu was a coldblooded killed who was willingly to kill the minority to save the majority.

Does shirou find out about this in fate or ubw?
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Fate is obviously incomplete. UBW is cool, but also incomplete. HF is complete.
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>>577319517
yes bro a theme(s) is a core component of a story
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>>577319418
I legit have no idea. If I remember correctly, Nasu also had plans for a Medea route as well, and to be honest, I don't see how Nasu could write out a fully fleshed out route for Illya or Medea, especially Illya who had half of her route put into Sakura's
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In case it wasn't obvious, he's replying to himself.
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>>577319603
I hope they implement the 100 jillion expressions for her Takeuchi made in that book someday.
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Today, tomorrow, forever
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>>577319915
>Does shirou find out about this in fate or ubw?
No, only Heaven's Feel because its one of the biggest twists in the novel.
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>>577319749
I'll be honest I went into HF disliking Sakura (even though I liked her appearance) for how contrived I felt her backstory was. Towards the end though she'd worn me down and I didn't care how forced her circumstances were, I just wanted to help. She was never going to be better than Rin for me but she made it close.
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>>577319915
Yes
https://youtu.be/mm2NAPXc-8k
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>>577320046
I sometimes do that to get a conversation going. I don't think it's malicious or anything and probably lot of people do it.
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Need
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>>577319932
>Fate is obviously incomplete. UBW is cool, but also incomplete. HF is complete.

Fate and UBW are intended to be two sides of the same coin, they're supposed to complete each other

Nasu does this again with Extra + CCC and TsukiR
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>>577320353
Can I fuck her dad while she watches?
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>>577320046
Who are you even talking about?
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>>577320354
TsukiRe is completing the original? What about KG? I've been putting remake off but maybe I should get into it.
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>>577319394
And do you really think “soul” is more important than profit and global name recognition?
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>>577318354
Literally the only bad thing is her class. The idea of combining a ST arts crit servant and an AoE looper into one kit is cool and could be very useful, but Moocancers have shit star weight on top of being a meme class, so she can't even use the stars she generates to fuel the crit buffs she gives herself.

If she'd been a ruler, her kit would've made perfect sense. If she had been an Avenger, she'd have made up for it with damage. But Mooncancer is the worst of all worlds.
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>>577320307
>>577320150
Damn, my bad then, I forgot that Saber told him about Kiritsugu in the Fate route. I could've sworn it was the only Heaven's Feel route where he learned about it.
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>>577320679
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>>577320679
Judging by the fact that FGO hasn't chased trends and shoved in a bunch of shitty garbage, yes?
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>>577320679
Absolutely soulless post.
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Takeuchi artstyle is so fucking awful
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>>577320712
At least she works with my dubai but I suppose LH was enough for that lol.
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>>577320679
Careful there, anon. The word you're looking for is revenue. Profit is revenue minus expenses and hoyoshills HATE when you bring that up because they don't want to talk about expenses.
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Uncontested list of Nasu's best stories

>Mahoyo
>Kara no Kyoukai 5 Paradox Spiral
>Tsukihime Arc OG
>Ciel route remake
>Hisui route
>Fate UBW Route
>Fate HF Route
>CCC Gil route
>FHA
>LB6

Uncontested list of Nasu's worst stories

>Kohaku route (Everyone is going to kill each other, and then they all cry, and get told that all the character development happens off screen)
>Melty Blood
>Fate Saber route (so bad ufotable skipped it)
>Most of Extra
>Most of FGO
>Extella
>Last Encore
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>>577320926
But businesses are profit-driven entities first and foremost, which is the reason why any given gacha game exists
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>>577320943
Huh? But I liked Extra.
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>>577320891
>Takeuchi artstyle is so fucking great

Fixed
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>>577320943
One of these bullets proves you're a retard who should not be trusted, but I won't tell you which it is.
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>>577320943
Mahoyo is garbage
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>>577320943
>Mahoyo
I still need to finish this. I've only read the prologue with Alice and the cat that got stuck in the car.
>Kara no Kyoukai 5 Paradox Spiral
Overrated imo. Beautiful movie with a 10/10 soundtrack though
>Tsukihime Arc OG
I didn't like this at all
>Ciel route remake
Still need to read the remake
>Hisui route
I never actually read the maid routes
>Fate UBW Route
>Fate HF Route
Loved them
>CCC Gil route
Still need to read CCC
>FHA
Still need to read
>LB6
Good, but you have this way too high up imo
Also where is Akiha's route, anon? That's the best thing I see ever read by Nasu.
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>>577321151
Independent businesses are profit-driven entities.
State-run businesses are agenda-driven entities.

Chinese gacha do not exist to turn a profit, they exist to advance the interests of the state.
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>>577320153
What's the book called? Are there scans?
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>Saber is a loyal serva-
https://youtu.be/UK6SshWx2Zg?t=9313
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>>577320943
Notice how every TM franchise is represented in the worst grouping except one. KnKchads stay winning.
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>>577321431
>7 and a half hours of bad endings
Jesus. Fate isn't a happy series, huh...
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>>577321590
>KnKchads
Eh. The Kara no Kyoukai movies have some top tier animation, choreography, and music, but the actual writing for them is pretty lackluster, and I even remember the 6th movie putting me to sleep, which is something that's never happened to me while I was watching/reading an anime/novel aside from when I was reading the lacrosse arc in Muv Luv Extra
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>>577321637
Fate was always dark and edgy

>if you try to back out of the HGW (the first bad end that you can get) he can run into Illya and Berserker who have no qualms about turning him into a bloody paste on the pavement
>Medea kills a dozen humans and sucks so many people of their life force that the city's hospitals are swamped with comatose victims and takes the time to magically castrate them if they're men
>Medea mindrapes Artoria and Shirou in some bad ends and rips Shirou's magecraft out of his soul
>if Shirou decides not to use a Command Spell to summon Saber to save himself after Rider kicked him out the window, he fatally lands on the ground. On the ground, swords begin to burst forth from his body resulting in his death
>UBW: Bad End where Rider has him tied up and then says something like "Oh, I really shouldn't stab out your eyes. If I do that I'll surely orgasm."
>Kotomine has a basement full of suffering children to feed Gilgamesh when it wasn't even necessary
>Gilgamesh is just a rapey sperg who fixates on Saber because "Woman! Rape!" without any depth. Urobuchi completely reinvented the character by giving the "I'm the king of the universe so everything is my rightful property" philosophy
>Kirei wants to dunk the world in Grail mud just because it seems interesting
>Gilgamesh wants to dunk the world in Grail mud because it might strengthen humanity
>Heavens Fall: On Day 16, if Shirou decides to take Gilgamesh with him, they are both sucked into and melted by the Holy Grail.
>Sakura kills lots of people without even being aware
>Shirou has to sacrifice his ideals and the lives of many innocents because he can't bring himself to kill Sakura
>Femme Fatale: On Day 16, if Shirou refrains from finishing off Saber, she escapes and helps Sakura to defeat Rin. Sakura absorbs Rin and subjects her consciousness to the tortures that Sakura herself suffered in her past. When Shirou confronts Sakura, she absorbs him as well.
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>>577321590
To be fair the KnK movie with the sister definitely kind of sucks, but it's not that bad. Also I heard that got heavily changed from the novel anyways.
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>>577321590
Besides movie 5, KnK is trash from when Nasu was severely depressed and probably suicidal.
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>>577321790
>>Kirei wants to dunk the world in Grail mud just because it seems interesting
Nothing wrong with this.
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>>577321790
You left out the worm rape that Sakura suffered for a decade, bro. That's easily one of the darkest parts of the series, and I've seen it filter a lot of people from finishing the Zero and Heaven's Feel anime
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>>577321790
>takes the time to magically castrate them if they're men
Why is she like this?
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>>577322032
Jason was seriously such a cock
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>>577321953
>Besides movie 5, KnK is trash from when Nasu was severely depressed and probably suicidal.
Didn't he write it when he was in highschool?
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>jobs to the weakest shirou

Defend this
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>>577321297
actually i really liked THAT artstyle. I fucking hate picrel and all the samefaces it has
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>>577321790
There is one bad end where Saber kills Shirou because he didn't cock dinner for her
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>>577322032
Witches in greek mythology do some fucked up shit, man.
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>>577322270
Nasu is ashamed of his edgy phase

>"It's like when you write - when you're younger, you look back on [previous work] and you think 'Oh, goodness what was I thinking,'" Nasu explained. "It's not that I'm embarrassed, I just don't like to look at my previous works."

>Nasu: When I wrote Kara no Kyoukai, I felt resistance towards so many things—society, entertainment, culture—and it was my motivation to write the story. Now, I am thrilled to be writing from a place of gratitude, though with just a touch of sadness. It feels like the old Nasu Kinoko has passed on. I suppose you could say I've gone under a heavy detox, and feel much more virtuous now (laughs)

>Just like Urobuchi-san said, it's difficult to call the relationship between Shirou and Saber a relationship between a man and a woman. Saber has fought for a long time as the ruler of Britain, but then turned into a girl all of a sudden and fell in love with Shirou. It's pretty ridiculous when you think about it. But I really wanted to push it towards that sort of boy-meets-girl story. So as a last resort, I had Shirou continually say things to her like "But you're a girl," and "Girls aren't supposed to fight,"

>Q: In the first month of 2004 Fate went on sale. What was the reaction to it like?

>Nasu: It was a title we believed in, so seeing it sell well gave us a lot of confidence. The reactions to it were both good and, in some cases, a little hollow. It was a victory that was both satisfying and hollow.
>Takeuchi: He's speaking of the Sakura route. A lot of people were disatisfied with it. Hence, the hollow feeling.
>Nasu: Yes, although recently more people are warming up to it. When it first came out, people were so excited and pleased by the Saber and Rin routes that they expected to keep proceeding down the royal road. The Sakura route is not like that at all, and they had trouble accepting that when it first appeared. We learned a lot from that experience
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>>577321637
It's has a lot of horror to it that I really wish FGO didn't abandon, even if it would have made no sense to do that with a phone game
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https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/Nasu%20is%20ashamed%20of%20his%20edgy%20phase/

What do you call this behavior?
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>>577322493
>The Sakura route is not like that at all, and they had trouble accepting that when it first appeared. We learned a lot from that experience

Remember when Nasu wanted to rewrite HF for the movies and Sudou rejected it?
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>>577322649
I mean, if how bland and tame modern gachas are is anything to go by, I'm really glad they managed to keep as much of the horror as they did. I guarantee they wouldn't have shit like Bob rotting from the inside or Barghest eating children alive in other games.
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Can't you just say "Nasu is a hack" and move on? That's how it ought to be.
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>>577322270
Yeah it was Nasu's very first work, a collection of math-class scribblings that Takeuchi persuaded her to compile into an actual story. KnK went unreleased for ages but was later released as a Light Novel series once TM transitioned from being a doujin circle to being an actual publishing company.

Afaik, Angel Notes was the first of Nasu's published writings actually released by Type Moon, back when they were still a doujin circle and their circle takes its name from that.
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>>577321637
Early Typemoon was Urban Fantasy + Horror + Mystery. That's why the main menu for Fate/Stay Night is this song
https://youtu.be/j4xsfkhcw-A
You can hear this sense of foreboding and ominous tension throughout it that sets the tone for the entire novel
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>>577322751
Korean
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>>577322298
>Uses a dozen command spells to fight on par with cursed arm Hassan and defeat him
>Use 0 command spells against Shirou and dies from a stanby stab
Lmao
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>>577322298
fate shirou looks like a child so kirei couldn't go at full power
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>>577322649
I think the Shinjuku human doll thing came pretty close. But yeah it's mostly because Guda is protected by plot-armor except some optional fetishbait vore-dimention "bad endings" in valentine. Other characters are mostly servants so they are pretty much immortal or their death "don't count" anyway. They don't even have a gall to kill Meniure.
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She proved you can still be a heroine even with big boobs. Like actual big boobs, not just mediums.
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can these fsn turds leave so we can talk about fgo again
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>>577322751
What has happened to this website where literally anything even remotely discussed now has to have some schizo who appears the moment something is mentioned to argue the same point they've tried to argue 100+ times before.

You can't discuss Metroid anymore without it. You can't discuss Armored Core anymore without it. You can't discuss Nioh anymore without it.

It's genuinely so fucking annoying. Is it because we attracted so many failed fucking normalfags that think they need to hold a grudge over internet arguments instead of actually socially adjusted for online people who know to let shit go?
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>>577323018
>Uses a dozen command spells to fight on par with cursed arm Hassan

Didn't he use them all saving Sakura?
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>>577323085
Not sure what you're talking about, but I do like that boob dragon's design
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>>577322882
But where's the rape :( I miss the rape...
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>>577322974
I mean "Type Moon" actual real legal name (true) is "Notes Co., Ltd"
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>>577323048
*also Lahmuh.
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>>577323048
THAT Shuten scene in Shimosa caught me off-guard too - but that might have just been because the rest of that story was a snorefest.
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>>577323043
2005 is the best.
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>>577323048
>But yeah it's mostly because Guda is protected by plot-armor
He's protected by some of the thickest plot armor I've ever seen in fiction.
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Did Tiamat ever get associated with Lahmu again after her waifu-fication?
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>>577323163
That's just how it is post election tourism arc. It's been especially bad post covid, and I think the current feeling of powerlessness people have in the atrocious economy right now leads them to exert whatever pathetic modicum of control they can eke out, even if it's just ruining the 12 other people who still play FGO's discussion.
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>>577323436
Yeah. 2005 was the right mix of soul and good art. 2013 is dumpster fire tier
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>>577323436
>>577323043
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>Artists blatant fetish comes out in the design.
And just like that I shan't be rolling any of your servants Takeuchi, blondes suck
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>>577323163
>Is it because we attracted so many failed fucking normalfags that think they need to hold a grudge over internet arguments instead of actually socially adjusted for online people who know to let shit go?
I could ramble for a big, but basically yes. It gets even worse when you expand to topics that have bigger forces behind them too like politics or larger media campaigns, but it's basically the same symptom from shitty people thinking this is where they can fight their one man war against whatever fucking opinion they have instead of just coming here to actually discuss shit
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When is summer part 3?
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>>577323686
Takeuchi's fetish is maids
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>>577323898
5ish hours from now.
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>>577323552
God, it's like if the opening 20 minutes of Muramasa where it just describes two guys with swords staring each other down in excruciating detail was an entire game.
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>>577323679
>>577323043
Fate 2003

>During the plotting stage, UBW was also the subtitle of Fate/stay night itself. The name showed up in the “upcoming works” section of the pamphlets we distributed at the 2001 Winter Comiket

Do we have any of these pamphlets?
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>>577323929
I hate takeuchi but that's a nice fetish and i approve it
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>>577323898
Next reset my doggie
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>>577323679
Would it kill Takeuchi to draw a character without a tilted head?
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>>577323679
Fucking insane how bad the entire third row is.
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>>577324072
I always suspected the art director was the reason that of all the Riyo servants, the rats were the ones we got
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>>577324116
He can't do straight faces for shit, so tilting the head helps his "style"
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>>577323679
Wow, the second row looks amazing. First and third are eye poison.
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>>577324224
The good ol' hide the hands behind the back technique
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Butt barrel loaded.... brap payload engaged...
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>>577324420
I bet her toots smell and taste like cinnamon rolls
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>>577324420
You need to stop. Using that is doing damage to your soul
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>>577313015
Why did you choose this of all things for the OP image..?
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>>577323163
It’s a long story but it goes to back to mod team/janitorial turnover around 2021 COVID era and accelerated with the shutdown the actual exact turning point was when asmongold streamed ffxiv, evidenced by the janny only board leak having their wow general

there’s a reason the xiv general is typically the fastest thread on the site and it was basically the testing ground on how to let schizos spam and ruin every thread

It’s basically a case of the mod team finally saying fuck it we will just let schizos ruin everything because our game is no longer popular
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>>577324608
to dab on the lilithkeks
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>>577324656
>there’s a reason the xiv general is typically the fastest thread
Surely it has nothing to do with it being the most popular MMO and also just generally attracting the most mentally insane people even outside of 4chan.
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>>577324529
Well, now I wanna smell habebutt, that sounds really nice.
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>>577323163
>that think they need to hold a grudge over internet arguments
It’s the concept of izzat. Very third world coded. They genuinely believe getting the last word in means their word is the absolute truth. Because schizos tend to have delusions contrary to reality this translate to them spamming the topic of their fixation every single time it shows up.
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>>577324287
>>577323679
takeuchi these days just does a rough sketch and then someone else finishes it. for fgo is usually koyama.
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>>577324608
Stay mad, faggot
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Psssst
Eresh Cute
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>>577324929
Post more Mashu bites.
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>>577324965
On the opposite day, maybe.
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>>577324792
It was about 1/3 as fast prior to the great schizoing anon. It really is the template and genesis for every modern schizo, on purpose. It was the exact turning point the mod team gave up any pretension of being “fair”.
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>>577324536
I just loaded her up with a burrito like 1.5x her size... how do I cancel...
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>>577323212
Its a common theory that writers never want the heroine to be the big boob character; it always has to be the flat or medium character. Even Tifa got massively shrank in the FF7 remake (she used to be the best example of a heroine who had boobs but was still treated as a real character, and was a good fighter, rather than just sex). A shoujo manga I read explained it once that writers want the heroine to be seen as pure and sexless so they often make her flatter, while the villainess is allowed to be busty because she's evil, and evil can be sexy. Its basically a subtle decades long series of tropes that rarely ever gets overturned because of a biased preconception about what a heroine should look like, and how boobs make you "Less of a person" apparently.

Its "rare" for a heroine to ever have large boobs
And if a heroine ever is large, usually its just like C cups or something. Not like "actually large" but kinda mediumish, so the author can get away with claiming it. Whenever authors write serious female characters they always default to flat chest, because if they make her large they can't take her serious as a human, they just see her as fanservice.
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>>577324929
Is it me, or is her neck really weird? It looks like a log, almost. Maybe it's just the way her head is sitting on it.
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>>577325272
Bro never seen Takeuchi giraffes
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>>577325064
Oh yeah? Then explain THIS.
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>>577325064
So you're saying making titcows is actually praxis?
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>>577325395
You're the villain, even if you overwrite your profile to say "good", BB...
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>>577325395
I love high high leather boots
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>>577325395
BB is not the heroine, bro, the heroines are Nero and Tamales... who also have large boobs
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>>577325395
I fuck this
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>>577325395
Watch out BB you're gonna fall!
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>>577325564
I think the other anon means heroine as main character, which is true. Female MCs don’t usually have big knocker. The romantic interests get them all the time
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kingprotea is babuplay fetish
which character is breastfeeding fetish?
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>>577324929
Not mad. It's pity.
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>>577325758
>Tifa
nyo
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>>577325758
BB is not the main character either
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>>577325758
But the boob dragon isn't the main character?
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>>577325842
This might surprise you BUT Kingprotea also can quite literally "summon" a full ocean of milk.
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>>577326164
ok now i need to learn more
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I hope they stick the landing. I've enjoyed oc3 so far
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What are your unpopular Fate opinions?
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>>577325395
Cute!!!
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>>577325601
We fuck this >>577325395
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>>577326460
Altria > Artoria
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>>577326623
there's no need to troll so obviously
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>>577326280
In OC3 Protea Alter mentions getting the milk for her cakes from there
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>>577326623
this is a good one
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>>577326460
I want my bro Shinji in fgo
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>>577325758
Its a bit of both, although female protagonist is probably more likely to be flat. Just look at Hakuno, and Gudako.
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>>577326460
The franchise has always been hardcarried by the designs and the reason the IP's stagnated in recent years is not just because of TM's slow release schedule, but FGO pumping and dumping 380+ unique servant designs watering down the pool.
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Fate actually peaked here
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who would win?
Emiya or an airfryer?
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How long until CS refresh... I'm fighting Albion and I accidentally fatfingered the wrong servant for my last one and she's gonna do the megarape attack that eats normal invincible...
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>>577327221
>Rider proudly proclaims that being retarded is based
>Gil giggles like a faggot the entire time
>Saber unable to argue against either of these positions

This counts as a Gil win, right?
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>>577327397
20 minutes.
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>>577327397
18 minutes
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You now remember that Fate route was actually pretty good

Fate/Zero Saber could never.
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>>577327376
What about Emiya using an airfryer? Air fryer is only as useful as the one making use of it, the same as any tool. If you have no idea what you're doing an air fryer is "ho hum", but with a bit of knowledge and creativity you can cook almost anything in it.
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>>577327670
he shouldn't be allowed to handle that power stop being greedy
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>>577327654
I didn't like the fate route because it felt like a shallow retread of Arc's route in Tsukihime.

Honestly what always struck me as weird is that the first section of the game written from Rin's perspective feels much more natural than the rest of the VN. Like Nasu was in their comfort zone there and then had to step way out of their comfort zone to write Shirou.
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Reminder EMIYA can trace a cotton Candy machine
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>>577326981
Shinji is unironically exiled to neverneverland because he's based on Nasu's actual abuser and she always took it personally that he became a popular character.
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>>577328562
Nasu literally says Shinji is based on that one guy from Uthena
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>>577328562
I mean Nasu wrote an actual likeable Shinji in Extra already
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>>577328650
She lied.
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>>577328336
>Rin's perspective feels much more natural than the rest of the VN.

Draft remnants

>In the beginning, the plan was for Fate/stay night to have four different routes, one for each heroine.
>It would start off by letting the player arbitrarily choose between playing as either Shirou or Rin. Then around the middle of the story they would finally meet, and after that you would branch off into one of the four routes for the last half of the game. Yeah, I don’t really understand how it was going to work either.
>Anyway, getting back to the rejected routes, it goes without saying that the Illya route tops the list.
>Besides that, there was also the “Rider route where you fight against Rin and Saber,” and the “Caster route where Caster gets turned into a loli and becomes your partner.”
>While all traces of the Caster route were completely erased, the development where you teamed up with Rider was actually folded into part of the final story.
>If the Illya route had made it into the game, the diversion point probably would have been on the ninth day of the Sakura route. Instead of choosing between being a superhero and choosing Sakura, there would be a third choice where you could choose Illya.
>But unfortunately, as it stands that choice doesn’t exist.

https://www.tmdict.com/book/#fate-side-material.rejected-routes
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>>577328975
>loli caster
what the FUCK nasu FINISH IT
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>>577328975
Forever crying that we will never get the illya route
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>>577327429
Rider is right though you shouldn't undo things.
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>>577328975
>where you could choose Illya.

What we know about Illya's route

>Nasu confirmed that Ilya's bird familiars were from the draft

>Nasu: If it's at the land that houses the Holy Grail, then Ilya is indeed that strong. And being able to make a familiar from her hair was in the original draft. The work this time around was especially hard, so I ended up using an "Iri's replacement" approach. By the way, the name of the technique is Elfen Lied [German for Elves' Song, 天使の詩 - Angel's Poem]. The bird's name is Storch Fieseler [German term for a type of plane].

>Takeuchi confirmed that Shirou would have a sex scene with Leysritt and Sella

>At the initial concept stage, the only details we had hammered down about these two maids were their names, their general roles (powerhouse/teacher) and which one would become Illya's Dress of Heaven. We only expanded on these characters when we decided to go ahead with "hollow". Normal homonculi are mostly emotionless like Leysritt, so that illustrates what a unique case Illya is. Leysritt was created as a sample of Illya, and Sella was allowed to live only because she was useful as Illya's tutor. That's about the extent of the specifics we initially had for these characters. When I started writing Sella's part in "hollow", however, she quickly became one of my favourite characters. I like Leysritt too, of course. By the way, I think Sella is the only real tsundere character in "Fate". (laughs)

>Shirou losing his arm protecting Ilya, the two shopping and her singing, BRING ILLYA BACK, and Nine Lives Revolver were also planned for Illya's route

>Shirou was going to drop his ideal to make amends for Kiritsugu's sins in Illya's route, while the Sakura route focuses on him breaking free of Kiritsugu and becoming his own person. Also, Rin was likely going to become a villain after killing Sakura and going mad in the Illya route to complete the pattern of how each heroine is a villain in some route
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> “Caster route where Caster gets turned into a loli and becomes your partner.”
Medea was this fucking close of being the most popular character instead of the most forgetable
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How do we get our masculine pride back?
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In old "Fate", Berserker's master was a slightly psychotic hitman sent in by the Holy Church. But Takeuchi suggested making Berserker's new master a Lolita character, I have to admit I was really excited by the idea.

Takeuchi: Berserker is like a blank state when it comes to his master, isn't he?

Nasu: You could say that. When we crafted the Noble Phantasm God Hand, I knew I didn't want a man who had accomplished such great feats to do anything below his dignity. Among all the summoned Servants, Heracles was a true hero. While Berserker still had a bit of awareness as Heracles, any thoughts he had spinning around in his head were constantly being channeled toward destruction. His new existence was consumed entirely by his Master's commands.

Takeuchi: I do wonder why Einzbern chose the Berserker class for Heracles. I'm pretty sure there was a special spell for the Berserker class, so does that mean it was a conscious choice. With Heracles as the Heroic Spirit, he would have been equally formidable as Saber or Archer.

Nasu: It's probably because Einzbern thinks the Berserker class is the best. When you take into consideration what happened during the previous Holy Grail War, it also makes sense that he might have wanted a pawn who wouldn't be burdened with the distraction of personal thoughts and feelings
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i'm not reading any of these btw
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>>577329678
smooch them hard until they understand
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Are people still mad at the baby fetish Kingprotea?
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>>577329830
First Emperor of China...
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>>577329678
I never really understood the appeal of giantess but I think I'm being psyoped and beginning to get it
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>>577330313
Normalfags and redditors? Yes
The nips like her though
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>>577330313
If you want to get angry at people on the internet you can always find ways.
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>>577330313
Tourist outing themselves yes. This game always catered to the cultered
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>>577331105
Who's the pink slut between Archer and Saber?
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>>577331105
So why was Takeuchi replaced by Wada?
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>>577331105
everyone looks noticeably worse..
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>>577331310
Because Wada is obviously better?
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>>577331310
Wada's degenerate tastes complement Nasu's
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>>577331194
Tamales Rodriguez
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>>577331310
Wada sameface>Takeuchi sameface
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>Shirou realizes the other kids that were turned into orphans due to the fire were in the church basement
>If Shirou hadn't been adopted by Kiritsugu, then he too would have been melted down and slurped by gilgamesh.
>Gilgamesh needs orphans to use as mana batteries
>Never mentioned in UBW or HF or ever again

Good writing, nasu
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i'm going to run out of seedlings.
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>>577331310
They wanted Extra to be good.
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>>577331517
DOESN'T COUNT!
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>>577331105
Jesus these are terrible. What the hell is that gawain.
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Post Kingprotea pics
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>>577331105
Holy Soul!
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>>577331517
>never mentioned again
Did it need to be?
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>>577331105
Holy CLAP!
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>>577331105
Early Kiara looks just like Misaya (Proto Rin)
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How would you describe Tsukihime's plot to someone who knows nothing about it?
I've tried to describe it to my friends before and it's really hard to give them a coherent description of it without spoiling it.
My go to description is that's it's basically Twilight for males, with a ninja assassin demon hunter who has a vampire and a vampire hunter fall in love with him. Which sort of describes the Ciel and Arcueid routes, but it's still not a very good description of the series, especially if you're including Akiha and the maid routes
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>>577330027
They can't even feel the smooches
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>>577332115
A serial rapist who lust for his adoptive sister and maids gets in love with a vampire and a black ops nun.
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Dark Sakura 2020
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>>577332161
I'm not a big fan of giantess but she is FEET coded so I'm rolling for her.
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>>577332334
>A serial rapist who lust for his adoptive sister and maids gets in love with a vampire and a black ops nun.
I need the QRD on this Shiki guy for this to be how you describe him but Arc and CIEL like him
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Tsukihime faces
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>>577332161
you need to tell them you are smooching them. they won't feel it but autosuggestion will make them to believe they are feeling it
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>>577332334
The goal is to SELL them on the series, anon, not filter them
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>Suddenly remember a H-Doujin where the cuck(normal human size) had a giantess childhood friend, got NTRed by a giant male
Since then, i finally understand the stupidity of giantess fetish.
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>>577327429
Based retards are the highest form of based.
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>>577332576
You don't need friends who can't enjoy a good rape scene desu
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>>577332549
>this Shiki guy for this to be how you describe him
It is how you describe him. He raped basically every heroine in the novel aside from either Hisui or Ciel (I can't remember which one it was)
>but Arc and CIEL like him
Arcueid likes him because he killed her (she got better, but it was like the first time she tasted defeat like that, so kinda turned her on, and rebooted her personality)
Ciel likes him because he's an eroge protagonist
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>>577332549
Shiki beats/cuts bitches into submission and then they develop Stockholm sindrom after being raped
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>>577332565
I see...
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Is it just like a rule for TM protags to be fucked up individuals?
Like Guda is the most normal out of these other freaks.
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>>577327221
>>577327429
>>577329423
Saber unironically won the argument here. It just looked like she lost because Gilgamesh and Iskander were both way more charismatic and confident then her.
Gilgamesh ideals here were basically everything belongs to me and everyone should serve me or entertain me. Even though Gilgamesh died a loser and a failure who was afraid of the gods, and his kingdom quickly fell into irrelevancy.
Iskander ideals were only I matter, follow me and my dream, and you'll find happiness. Even though his kingdom fell apart and his children and his wife were killed immediately after he died.
Saber's ideal that the head of the state should serve the people is based, and it's literally the foundation of a democratic republic. Her kingdom may have fallen, but the ideals that she represented ripples throughout Europe and later America for hundreds of years
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>>577333090
Mikiya is fine. His only problem is he's too nice.
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>>577333090
Tsukihime was essentially a horror VN
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>>577333185
Mikiya isn't a protag, he's a love interest. Ryougi is KnK's protag.
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>>577333090
Can't have an interesting story with boring protags. Gudako only works because she is hot and has 500 hot girls clashing 24/7 for her.
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>>577333173
>Even though Gilgamesh died a loser and a failure
Source?
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>>577333173
Every "free" country is ruled by businessmen with the same mindset as Gil, bro
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The HF manga is an amazing adaptation that strives to keep in as much of the VN as possible
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>>577333379
>Medusa rapes shirou
>this is fine
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>>577333308
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>>577333379
Don't worry Rin bros, this is Meduseless LARPing as her.
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>>577333173
>my ideal didn't work and my empire got fucked but trust me i'm right
yeah... no
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>>577333536
You can tell because she doesn't appear weak to it
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>>577333090
Shirou is a struggling trauma victim because it makes him an interesting character

Tohno is the result of them not really knowing how to write a character that is simultaneously a normal and relatable mild-mannered highschool boy, a cool action hero and a sexual tyrannosaurus at the same time. So instead he's just a normal guy that has random impulses to murder or rape that conveniently coincide with when an action or sex scene needs to happen. These impulses and their consequences go largely unexplored because they're purely a plot device and are ultimately handwaved with 'demon hunter family instincts'
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Post KP
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>>577333379
wtf is happening lmao
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>>577333379
>my organs and blood are flowing out
God bless Takeuchi, TM sex scenes are a treasure.
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>>577333308
>Source
Epic of Gilgamesh. The gods killed Enkidu and Gilgamesh failed to find the potion fo immortality. Gilgamesh never got revenge for Enkidu and he never became immortal. So he copied and said that the real lesson from the journey was the wisdom he gained, then he spent the rest of his life ruling a kingdom that he didn't give a shit about for the first 9/10 of the story, a kingdom that quickly fell into irrelevancy after he died.
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>>577333779
The HF manga is in a seinen magazine and is even adapting sex scenes.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rKWS5TeiiQuTLiWRzsST6kMLYv9TblPl

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XmQyPo0IQbyLvt_VpA87IRyxR2nlFRu8

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QLtmUGGPm2Fb9-s7qx6IK4ECIyGhlghL
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>>577333779
Rider gave Shirou a magic wet dream where he is fucking "Rin" in the ass, she gets mana this way or something
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>>577333173
>the head of the state should serve the people
This is why her kingdom fell. Her ideal is incompatible with the feudal system of kingdoms, but her rule depended on her making the absolutely correct decision every time for the sake of the country. There's a direct contradiction between her ideal and what she functioned as. She was a machine that used her kingly authority to protect the people and was discarded when the people no longer needed her.
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>>577334240
>A kingdom that quickly fell into irrelevancy after he died
Just like Camelot
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>>577334457
>Rider gave Shirou a magic wet dream where he is fucking "Rin" in the ass, she gets mana this way or something

This is why Fate/Zero and Strange Fake are better. None of this slop.
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>>577334659
That's where you're wrong. The personal shit makes the story better than it just being all magic and assassins and shit.
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>>577334328
oh that's nice i will read it later ty
>>577334457
yea but that doesn't explain the 14liters of cum
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>>577333173
Saber was delusional, the one actually running the country was Agravain. The moment Agravain died Camelot went down because she was too retarded to run a country alone.
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>>577333779
>wtf is happening lmao
Shirou is sleeping, and Rider is raping him for mana, while giving him an illusion that he's fucking Rin, so that he doesn't wake up and freak out that a servant is raping him for his seed
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>The only way to stop Roa from taking over Shiki was by fucking her in the ass.

wtf nasu?
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>>577334767
Shirou was manipulated into having a wet dream and it escalates to more ridiculous shit to show its a dream
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>>577334457
Because she's ACTUALLY raping his real body as he sleeps, and putting a dream into his head to keep him compliant until she's done.
>>577334767
It's a dream, he's visualizing having his life force stolen as CUMMING LITERAL BUCKETS
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>>577334659
Kiritsugu has sex with his wife AND with his adoptive daughter/minion in F/Zero
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>>577334827
For me, it's the scene where Ciel slides her tongue down Shiki's urethra. what the fuck Nasu? That's not hot, that's literal fucking torture
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HF manga

Day 10 - darkwood,sleepingbeauty
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>>577335039
The official story is that Nasu had Takeuchi write the sex scenes but we all know that's bullshit. Nasu didn't know how sex or dicks worked because she was a virgin. Then they hooked up and she wrote Kiara.
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i know absolutely nothing about kingprotea other than
>babu
>she's a giant
>vore???
she's a retard or what are her other traits?
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>>577331801
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>>577335039
Nasu is an autistic woman who was still a virgin at that point, please understand
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>>577335281
She can produce an ocean of milk
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>>577335281
Bro that's basically the level of detail that went into all of the Sakura 5. You've got it
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How would your autistic ass respond?
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>>577335281
read OC3? Also LB7? And the several other stories she appears in including CCC event?
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>2 years
Pain
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https://x.com/i/status/2087590420205465779

He is right
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>>577335536
i'm new
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>>577335661
Doesn't mean you can't read. Start reading.
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>>577314275
Castoria Alter when
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>>577335281
Kingprotea alter is femdomkino
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>>577335747
built for domination-loss
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Next year
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>>577333379
sex incarnate
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Is no one excited for the conclusion of OC3?
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>>577335325
I love that every Tsukihime sex scene is full of terrible imagery and an obvious misunderstanding of basic anatomy but the instant we arrive at "put it in my ass tohno" it's an extremely vivid and grounded description of a terrible first anal experience.

Nasu was definitely a catholic schoolgirl.
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>>577335817
finally someone who understands
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>>577335910
I now notice the nipple bump
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>>577335910
made me remember ren yamashiro
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>>577335281
I don't think anything about the Alter Egos is going to make much sense until you read CCC event. I could explain it but it wouldn't make sense out of context.

>The Alter Ego of craving.
>In the past she was waste matter sealed at the end of an Imaginary Number Space.
>In the Deep Sea Cybernetic Capital, she’s reproduced as “something attached to SE.RA.PH” as the process of Kiara’s turning into SE.RA.PH advances.
>(※ Both Meltryllis and Passionlip are 『the two captured by (the being synchronized with) Kiara』 extracted by Kiara’s will, but the reproduction of Kingprotea isn’t due to Kiara’s intentions)
>The character of the original Kingprotea was 『an innocent little girl hungry for love』, but FGO’s Kingprotea, perhaps due to Kiara’s influence, has a growing intelligence.
>Mental age-wise she’s based on a girl around 14 years old.
>The image of a shy, fleeting girl.
>However she’s greedy when dealing with love, so she’s a carnivore that, despite being a late bloomer, acts without hesitation.
>Alter Egos are complexes of multiple goddesses, but Protea was made from the essence of the Great Earth Mothers common to all mythologies. She herself is treated as a Noble Phantasm but in the Deep Sea Cybernetic Capital, it has become possible for her to display a separate Noble Phantasm in exchange for her Saint Graph being ranked down.

>Maybe because she’s a giant, maybe due to the influence of the incorporated essences, or, maybe because it’s within her tastes and preferences.
>She studied the Japanese tokusatsu movies in SE.RA.PH’s database, and since then, she has come to respect 『kaijus』.
>『Kaijus are scary, big, strong… and also, really exciting!』
>Protea herself talks.
>Protea may think it’s brave how they are 『loved by the audience』 despite being『designed as enemies of mankind』.
>The style of her Saint Graph appearance 2 is a 『Kaiju Morph』 packed with the dreams and hopes of that Protea.
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I love hair vents.
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Femdomchad here. Would sex be rougher with BB, Meltlilith, Kama, or Kingprotea Alter?
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>>577335636
*Open the tweet
See the comments
A nigger is talking shit of komachi
*Three dots *block
*Leaves
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>>577335910
The unzipped shorts and platforms really get me going.
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>>577336221
You wouldn't survive the Palter
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>>577335747
She's not a dom, anon, she's a brat. The fucking skintight latex bodysuit and gimp mask probably should have tipped you off that she's on the far side of the BD/SM dynamic.

She's not talking rudely to belittle you, she's talking rudely to get corrected. The fact that the giantess is a bratty sub is ironic.
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>>577336264
More like KomaSHIT, lmao
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kp alter is bob core
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>>577336162
>『Kaijus are scary, big, strong… and also, really exciting!』
CUTE
also what a let down
babuplay is good when the babu is a 34yo OL. 14 mental-age is too low for it to be good
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>>577336327
>the Palter
Passionlip Alter? Yeah, I'll pass. Her tits are too big, and I'm an asschad, so her non-existent, hank hill tier ass does nothing for me.
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How do I get a giant GF who is into baby play, bros?
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>>577336667
Just shrink yourself.
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>>577334957
Was sakura ok with that?
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How will Nasu ruin Red Garden?
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We will get 5* summer Melt alter, just wait
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>>577335636
>12,000 views for a repost of a 4chan screenshot
So, that's what we're doing now, huh? People here just come here and farm our posts so they can repost it on Twitter for likes and views?
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>>577336813
>Now
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>>577336813
BB SCREENSHOT THIS RETARD POST AND MAKE IT BLACK OR CHINESE
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>>577318815
>No other gacha has lasted this long.
Except for all the other gacha that came around the same time as or earlier than FGO like say GBF...
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>>577336813
That's been the case since 4chan started.
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Reminder that UFOshit is garbage and both UBW and HF adaptations suck donkey dick.
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>>577336743
Making Akiha less sexually frustrated.
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>>577336797
The worst part is that that will be possibility even before adding Violet or any other "possible" Servants that were datamined since launch day.
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>>577335281
>Mooncell is an ancient alien moon computer that is far far beyond human understanding. It was originally meant to be TYPE MOON but Nasu got embarassed and changed it to an alien moon computer
>In the future mages all died out because magic/mana depleted entirely, however magicians realized that the moon is really a giant computer that's been monitering Earth since before Earth existed. Humans cannot even comprehend the computer its so powerful
>Mages evolve to fuse with technology a bit, and they become "wizards", which allows magic to survive by fusing a bit with technology
>Wizards learn how to digitize their soul so they can access the alien super computer
>Alien super computer wants to learn about humans more, so it decides to host a holy grail war, the point of the grail war is basically just running a bunch of experiments on lab rats to see which rat survives. So the computer can understand "So that must be the strongest rat ideology for survival"
>Mooncell isn't supposed to have a brain of its own so that it cannot bias its own experiment, therefore it remains entirely neutral, and instead has AI's act as the logic center for itself, AI's control each facet of the Mooncell
>One day an AI in the Mooncell gains self awareness, it gains sentience, which it isn't supposed to have
>It immediately swallows up 121 servants, then it evolves itself, it then goes through the records of the Mooncell swallowing various gods and malignant data to keep growing larger, to keep growing stronger
>However the AI that became too strong couldn't control the rampaging human emotions inside of itself, the emotions were too strong
>So it cut the five bloated emotions inside of itself out, it spit them out.
>Then it decided to fuse the five bloated emotions with a bunch of gods, in order to create horrible god amalgamations, to serve as pawns for itself
>However the god amalgamations ended up developing into real human beans over time
its complicated
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NASU BRING ME SUMMER SANZOU
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>>577337350
Please don't summarize Extra to newfags, it just confuses them
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>>577337350
tl;dr - People are retarded if they think you can summarize two different 80 hour games into a single post

Even FSN sounds fucking retarded when you summarize it
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Extraverse chads...

What went wrong with Last Encore?
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>>577336739
Sakura was not okay with anything
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>>577337535
>Even FSN sounds fucking retarded when you summarize it

Not really?

>Einzberns had an ancestor that could use the third magic but she died that's why they created the homunculus they are clones of that person trying to recreate her.
>This doesn't work so they try to create the holy grail and manage to gic it form but can't power it up.
>They bring in the Tohsaka into their plan to use the grail to not only recover the third magic but to use it to transfom all of humanity into gods.
>The dude agrees he has land rich with magic and hidden far away from the mage association and the church he is also an extremely talented necromancer so he also provides the concept behind the servants.
>They realize that having only two people in the deal would make them prone to back stab each other so the Tohsaka invites his friend Makiri and expert on familiars he bring the concept of command spells into the plan.
>The original idea was to work together summon the servants and then force them all to commit suicide with commands to power the grail and go all transhumanism but they ended up betraying each other and everyone destroyed each other after that they came up with rules for the holly grail war and everything else is history
>7 magi summon 7 servants to compete for the holy grail
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>>577337578
Everything went right. It's the people who are wrong.
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>>577333656
You missed the point of Tohno. I'm guessing you never read the novel?
The whole point is that he is a shit person and a killer at his core. But his mystic eyes and his encounter with Aoko in his childhood changed his outlook on life enough for him to develop a mask.
This mild mannered highschool boy you mentioned is the mask he created to fit in with society because he doesn't want to disappoint Aoko. That's not the real him.
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>>577337578
Instead of playing it straight nasu thought it would be funny to make it a ng+ with none of the context in regards to the other masters or meaningful interactions besides rin and ranni.
Fucking stupid
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>>577337189
Perseus and Proto Gil have a DECENT chance since they've been pretty heavily hinting at doing something with Prototype finally
But yeah Violet is never getting in lol
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>>577337767
>I had a dream
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>>577337417
Horse...
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>>577337804
>Ran I
Who?
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>>577337417
To this day I still believe she is the hottest servant they have ever designed
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>>577323163
There simply aren't good spaces for discussion anymore, back then when the internet wasn't so centralized it was easier to find smaller pockets of similar minded people about almost every topic.
But as the internet began to become centralized in fewer and fewer sites it means that everyone from normalfags/children/mentally ill retards/political 'activist'/enthusiasts were forced to coexist in the same 3 or so sites. Not helping is the increased intensity and vitriol of discourse from all sort of social and political issues.
Not helping is the irony poisoned internet, nowadays you can't be genuine unless you are between 10 layers of irony; simply discussing anything without buzzwords being thrown around is becoming rarer and rarer.
I didn't even touch about the how mentally ill retards really ruin it for everyone as well.
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>>577337767
>>577338263
>Tsukihime
Existentialism, fear of the unknown, fear of the future, suicide, dual personality/schizophrenia for themes, murder psychology, fantasy and magic aspect diluted into the themes, coming of age story, love story developed over several years

>F/S N
Huuuuh, Battle Royale, fucking King Arthur for more mana, Servants have classes and characters sheets like a fucking RPG game, coming of age story (sort of, I guess...), bullshit love story over 15 days (kek), muh superhero
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>>577338576
I'm not reading all that shit, you cuck
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>>577338576
I always find it nice when I see anons in this thread talk about the story like two normal people.
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Funny how Xitter translate Japanese comment about Protea Alter's name as "PUTA" kek.
Especially with how she is an honorably Mexican.
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>>577338759
I always find it nice when I see cute lippers like you
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>>577335661
King Protea is HUEG (literally kaiju-class servant, tens of meters tall) and is a clingy girlfriend, basically. She's so huge and strong that she can flatten most servants like bugs. She's usually very sweet, though. As long as she feels like you're paying attention to her.
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>>577338919
Don't be gay anon...
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>>577338883
*honorary
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>>577338735
Good example of a mentally ill retard lol
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DEEN...

soul
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>>577337417
>She is the only Sakurai servant who doesn't appear in the latest Valentine event in JP, despite every other one appearing there.
Just give up already and get a rope for yourself. She'll never be in anything ever again. There's a bigger chance of Sheba appearing in the future than her.
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>>577337725
>Okay so this kid summons King Arthur so he's a girl so he can fuck her
>Seven mages are holding a tournament for the holy grail, except its not the Jesus grail, actually its an evil grail
>But the love interest in one route summons the same kid, except now he's an adult and he's jaded and evil. because he wanted to be a hero but failed. He wants to kill his past self
>And the other heroine is like, she's a shadow demon connected to the evil grail since childhood where she was raped by worms for 10 years straight. The worms connected her to the evil grail which connected her to the devil, who is inside the grail.
>So the kid tries to stop the war, he joins it so he can play hero, but really wanting to play hero means you want others to suffer, because you want to save them, it creates a contradictory desire. As pointed out by the evil priest who died 10 years ago but his heart is connected to the evil devil grail which makes him a zombie
>So the kid's sister from another family, she summons heracles, because she wants revenge against the kid for stealing their dad 10 years ago. Because her dad was an assassin hired by the family to take the devil grail. And the girl is forever 10 years old because she's a modified homuncules who had her organs rearanged to become a true grail, so that she could reach sorcery beyond the grail. Even though if she reached it she couldn't really bring it back with her so its kinda pointless.
>The kid has the power to recreate anything he's ever seen before but especially swords because he had a sword shoved up his ass as a kid

The mark of a Nasu game is that it sounds fucking retarded summarized, but when you're actually playing through it, it makes sense. Nasu plans his stories so they sound like nonsense because there's no way to summarize 140 hour game coherently. That's how you know Nasu is a good writer.
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>>577338883
Did you just awaken something in me?
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>>577339210
DUDE WHAT IF WE LIT EVERYTHING WITH MOONLIGHT
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hi alter! does anybody have the "the lunatics have taken over the asylum" soundpost with this pic?
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>>577339315
>140 hour game
>a good writer
>chocolate fairy
lmao
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>>577340076
Me in the middle
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>>577335873
I haven't even finished OC3 part 1
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>>577313015
Disgusting. I hate Mash!
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>>577340732
Well you have two hours to catch up
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>>577340930
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Why is Emiya man attribute shouldn't he be sword attribute
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https://youtu.be/b6cjpwnokG8

We're back to year 1 fgo it seems



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