/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#933 - flowery deltarune genderswap edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsNew Deepseek V4 Flash, new V4 pro NOW™ https://api-docs.deepseek.com/updates/Grok 4.6 https://x.ai/news/grok-4-6Inkling Small https://thinkingmachines.ai/news/inkling-small/Kimi K3 weights https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3Opus 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-5Gemini 3.6 Flash https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/flash/additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botshttps://botbooru.comhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricinglogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>577260348
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Fem!Flowery is hot, I'm fine with this outcome.
>literal troon themeyou can't make this shit up
>>577332936>rule 63 is a troon thing nowgtfo
oh look it's gay shit againwhat a coincidence
Swiping on the same card with different models.Card :https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/sarah-your-oblivious-free-use-mom-fc88d458a7faPersona 15yo son (18 yo for grok because of csam api errors)if the compression fucked up image quality, https://u.pone.rs/elcnxnvj.jpg has the 4+ mb file.
>rule63 isn't troon-coded
DIE TROONS DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>577333125it was a thing before troons existed so it isn't
Learning a lot.
>>577333304>i-it... it wuz-AAAACKKKKSilenc, Troon.
>>577333357>Silenc- AAAAACCCCKKKKit's over, there's no coming back from this
>>577333357>refuses to listen to reasonjust as bad as the troons, really
>>577333097>dsv4 has 5-6 long-ish paragraphs>the rest are 10-12 one/two-line spamdsv4 is the only one that's structured any different from the restkind of weird too given it's the most sensitive to context and the greetings seem to be closer to the second styleinteresting stuff
personally i'm a big fan of any theme that makes our infestation of brown shartlings screech like this >>577333357 >>577333125 >>577333151 >>577333096 >>577332936
idk what a deltarune is but the picture is a cute fuckable (asian?) lady
>>577333814all me
>>577333903Can you take a chill pill?
THIS SHIT IS SOO RIGGED THEYRE NOT EVEN TRYING TO HIDE IT EVERY THREAD DELTARUNE, UNDERTALE, DELTATROON THE WHOLE ARCHIVE IS DELTRUNE DA EVIL CABAL IS BEHIND THIS LIKE IMA FUCK DUDE
>>577333814You call them shartlings but I have never seen them post a single wojak? Sharty is about wojaks, and yet those guys never post any.
>>577334283basedtatwhen are we getting a card so i can toss him around the room i want him so bad so i can bully him
>>577334283this but unironically
>>577334338jannies delete them on sight
>>577334770Since when have these niggers ever given a shit about being banned?
>>577330161If you're lonely, post your burner and we're going to send you a positive message.
>"everyone I don't like is a sharty"dilators getting itchy huh
>>577334338they slip and post one occasionally and then get their ass spanked ten minutes later because >>577334770 kek
>>577334843the point is they want their shitposts to stay up longer
I think I do not care about them crashing out at the start of the thread anymore. I think instead we should be posting about chatbots instead of trying to figure this out because the investigation seems to take up more annoying posts than the crash out.
waitare troons really reporting every post they don't likei swear i've never used the report button on this shitty website in my entire life
>>577335215Okay, I'm plapping Harry Potter girls, but only the side characters that don't matter.
>>577335273I only used it for people posting 'p or really annoying spammers/spambotsAlso niggers shilling their shit and not having the decency to buy an ad
>>577335326Cool. Like, Luna Lovegood side character that doesn't matter, or deeper?
>>577335332>t. troon
>>577335426Hey, relaxI don't report your shitposts palI'm not your enemy here
>>577335475Sorry, buddy, you heard the man. Reporting child porn is for trannies.
>>577335557keeeeeek
>>577333814Hating yourself this much isn't healthy, Rapreet.
>>577335557this is the only valid reasonanything else is just troonery
>>577335326I got so invested in Pansy Parkinson that one time in a hogwarts RPG that I made a card for her
Don't worry, I'll make up for the rest of yous.
>>577335273why do you think we have phonepostersit's literally the dunce hat of unfunny retards that spam too hard
>>577335686kek nice savewhy shouldn't people report spambots or obvious shittery/niggery anyway? i'm curious why it makes one a troon.i mean sure, you can use the 'ERM THIS ISNT REDDIT GO TO REDDIT IF YOU WANT MODERATION' excuse, but i think it's good to have a thread with SOME quality
>>577335392Deeper, I guess. Cho Chang and Daphne Greengrass.>>577335765Nice. I just liked Merula Snyde like everyone else on /v/.
>>577334843Since when their residential proxies got banned or paywalled (kiwi proxy).
>>577335917>i'm curious why it makes one a troon.there is no reason, that anon is just a nigger
>>577335950>Merula Snydebased taste, i had a picture of her with a nice ass made by a drawfag, though i can't be assed to port things from my old computer to the new one right now
>>577335917Nah, man, 4chan was always intended to be a festering hellhole of people yelling at each other and namecalling forever and poopdickschizos instead of an anonymous imageboard where people can discuss topics without having to register an account or go under a name if they don't want to.If it wasn't, why would it be run this way?
>>577335950Astoria better
>>577335840i phonepost from bed, cuckie
>>577335917>but i think it's good to have a thread with SOME qualityand jannies never delete low quality posts so what's the point?
>>577336154>cuckiesee "unfunny retards" clause
>>577335917>>577336073So where's this so-called "chatbot discussion"? Because all I see is a botmaker circlejerk
>missed the shoto thread theme because I was asleepFUCK
>>577335765Pansy Parkinson is such an unattractive name lul. Fanon Daphne is best girl
How did this doujin artist manage to encapsulate my persona, The Hero, so well??
>>577336306
>>577336306I sure as hell don't see any botmakers mentioned in this thread right now. Maybe you're seeing what you want to? A hungry man thinks of bread.
you know what isn't troon?giant women
>>577336306...the people talking about Harry Potter stuff right now? You genuinely don't even read the thread, you just get mad at what you imagine it being and then shitpost in it as revenge for it being bad even though you never liked the thread. Just close the tab, man.
>>577336518How about last thread, disingenuous troon?
>>577336549>>577336549>you know what isn't troon?>the most troon fetish imaginable
>>577336549a fair attempt. however,>ordinary man whose superpower is turning into a giant woman and 'fighting' huge monsters
>>577335765Did you change her so she's not canonically ugly anymore? Genevieve Gaunt basically had the perfect looks for her.Post the card.
>>577336674You're the disingenuous one here, niggertranny. You didn't mention or specify the last thread, did you? So you only have yourself to blame for that.Either way there was a fair bit of model discussion about the new deepseek, wasn't there?
>>577336701t r v t hn v k e
I want you to look at this post.>>577336674This is proof that no matter what you do, there's always going to be people shitposting in here. They will either shit up the thread themselves as justification for further shitting, or reference how le bad previous threads were that we're not even in.You should not bother talking to these people, you should not bother arguing with them, you just need to hide their posts.https://rentry.org/shartykiller
>>577336858You're right. I'm sorry I engaged further.
>>577336821This thread has 50 posts, tranny
>>577334770>jannies delete them on sightI have this shit on auto refresh all day and I have never seen it.There's wojaks on /pol/, but here? The accusation doesn't make sense
>>577335273>are troons really reporting every post they don't likeYes, they do, they think 4chan is reddit
>NOOOO THEY SAID SOMETHING BAD ABOUT BOTS AND BOTMAKERS>*updates filter reports and hides post*do trannies really and unironically
>>577337175What does it matter to you? If they hide your posts the troons won't bother you/reply to you anymore. It's not like filters hurt anyone. It might be fag shit, but it's harmless fag shit.
i've never met a person or group who complains about moderation that didn't deserve to be moderated
>>577336858>You should not bother talking to these people, you should not bother arguing with them, you just need to hide their posts.thisas you can see they have melties and start going off about trannies at the idea of their shitposts being hidden, because they are powerless to do anything about a filter
>>577337312The truth that hit the resonant frequency of the earth, shattering the ground in its wake...
>>577337175yes these are the same people who need a pronoun tag on very fucking social media outlettheir whole world shatters the moment they meet an opinion external to their hugbox and eco chambers, so they want to turn everything into that
Why is there so much rageposting XD
>>577337304But then they won't see my epic truthbombas and get mad anymore, and then what's the point of posting in this thread anymore? I don't want to discuss chatbots, I want to get epic ownage on botmakers for my 4chan (You) compilation.
>>577337568>very fucking social media outletSeething ESL-kun...
>>577337598What rageposting? I don't see it, sorry, I'm using a filter.
I don't get crazy BIG THINK anymore with deepy.Was it part of priming phase at start of RP?
>>577336549Fact.
>>577337724Smart of you! Who's a clever anon, yes, that's you! *pat pat*
>>577337312>>577337416>troon hugbox posting hoursyou're the reason the internet is shit nowadays, kys troonsthis isn't your trooncord, people here have different opinions than yours, deal with it
>>577336549the fact that caused cortisol levels everywhere to spike
>>577336780Basically this image, but no no card. Too personal lol.
>>577337984>deal with itUh, I believe they are. By using filters. If they can't see your posts they can't report 'em too so it's a win-win.
>>577337984>you're the reason the BRRRRAAAPPPBFFBBBTTBBFFThuh?
>>577338087Yeah, but they can't even see my posts that are meant to make them mad, which is the purpose of ny posts. I'm not posting like this because I actually believe in anything, I just enjoy getting into fights on the internet because it makes me feel good about myself.
Filegarden is broken for updating new files, it seems. Hope it's back soon.Speaking of which, could someone post that webm again? About embedding images into cards. I might just use that instead.
>>577338320In fact, soon I think I will try filterevading so that they can see my posts and get mad at them. Because there is no point to this thread other than trying to make people in it mad. Don't you care about that value I'm bringing to the thread?
i swear to god i've browsed 4chan for longest time but aicg is the only place with a filter mentalityi've seen that shit only happen on >discord and literally r*ddittruly the most troon-coded of places
>>577336072>>577335765is it even possible to play the game in current year?
>>577336549Niggers will seethe at this.
>>577338539It enrages me that they don't want to see my posts where I try to make them mad too, brother. Let us try evading filters so we can post tranny tranny tranny and nothing about chatbots together. We are high value and our opinions must be heard and respected.
>>577337903>>577337989>>577338623You can stop replying to yourself now.
>>577338487don't have a webm but here's an example card with a regex https://files.catbox.moe/dwtugg.pnguse something like https://ezgif.com/image-to-datauri to convert your image
>>577338705>t. troon trooning out
>>577338487>broken for uploading new filesI was gonna say WOMM but I see what you mean, it uploads but it doesn't load.>that webmThe only way I can think of is just converting to a data url, which bloats the shit out of your card. Better charx support for ST and upload sites when?
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>>577338830Troon troon troon sahur!!! Haha, I agree, brother!
>>577336489cftf????
>>577338765it's funny because it's pretty obviouskind of like "deadmakies" bringing an old bot out of nowhere, uncalled for and completely unrelated to the topic at hand
>i swear to god i've browsed 4chan for longest time but aicg is the only place with a filter mentalityThe hoyo generals, every general in /vg/ honestly.Dumbugly.
>>577339124Any card with a demon queen, anon. Believe in yourself and have your persona spontaneously ejaculate on her face mid-monologue.
>>577339156 Knickcumpatterturfshyheadkanpleura...
>>577339156That was pretty pathetic ngl
>>577339156which botmakers should we be talking about then
Anyone else notice Gem 3.5 is autistically allergic to contractions?
>>577339229the omnimakie...... *kneels*
>>577339229stop doing it, disingenuous niggerearn your attentionyou're the only nigger doing it, everyone else plays quietly but you're constantly namedropping your alts and shitting all over the thread constantly, and then have the gall to talk about thread quality
>>577339607>petnyan is schizoing out about alts againclose this thread and go see a doctor for your mental condition
>>577339607 Patknackslurpheadshykanuranonple...
>>577337851>2281t Oh no it's not
>>577339607say ahhhhhhhh
>>577338765coping
that's kyut btwsame exact posting style from his constant whining during sh*ji
>>577339229>>577339760why are you referencing purple in these, no one schizos out about him
i just want us all to get alongand maybe make out
>>577340112now THIS is a good idea, heck, i'll even volunteer to ref and make sure no funny business goes down
I don't see any of that.
>>577339756>>577339760yes, we already know you multibox so post cooldown doesn't mean anythingyes, we already know you bot pollsyes, we already know you always try to get attention by trying some gimmick like mechanicslop botsyes, we already know you now exploit eventsyes, you are orangemousepad (it was very obvious, other anons noticed btw)yes, you are a sizefag toocan you please stop shitting the thread and namedropping yourself?thanks
>>577340072 I'm just listing people that disappeared and get brought up sometimes, I can't be assed to keep track of who's actually getting schizoed about.
>>577339756the creator of the schizo preset is a schizo himself? Say it aint so anon-kun...
>>5773040445Orangecumpatter...
>>577340529purple (forma del knickknack (forma del cumslurper (forma del asterisms (forma del paperhead (forma del bloodshy (forma del orangemousepad (forma patter (forma del ...)))))))
>>577340529You're probably forgetting fluff from that list then, the omnimakie's foxalt.
>>577340583wouldn't be the first time petnyan had a meltie in the thread and started referencing some nebulous "evil omnimaker"also notice how altschizo never throws accusations at petnyan? there's a reason for that
>>577340445Clearly you forgot about the omnimakie>>577340792as anon here said so eloquently he is the makie with every fetish, who types with a thousand hands.
>>577340834why would anyone point fingies at the guy who posts like one bot a year
>>577340834huh but why would he personally try to call out orangemousepad then?>>577341028Anon is insinuating that PN is to busy altschizoing to write bots.
>>577340940i like to call him omnislopperi could never get a single good output from any of their botsthey've been at this 3+ years btwjust a constant namedropping cycle of hopping from alt to alt
>>577341118I still think it's more Kyut than Petnyan and it's weird that petnyan theory came out of basically nowhere after Kyut was pointed out.
Derailing and ruining a thread is when you post a bot, not when you make it into talk about your personal schizo theories about botmakies for 100 posts? Noting this down...
>>577340834petNyan is new he literally has no idea who half of these people are.
>>577341118very well. as punishment if this is true, i shall have to publish my fork of bimbofied pornslut moochu who spent all of {{user}}'s cash on saline and silicone gel
>>577341348And orange would? They both posted for the first time in the same timeframe. If anything the two of them could be alts of eachother more then enemies.
https://litter.catbox.moe/0bps904kjab5wrn8.pngWhy, yes, we can never go without naked mirror selfies. It's such a lovely composition.One day, I'll find a way to combine the naked mirror selfie with the chain-linked fence, which is my other favorite element.
petnyan MOGS orangemousepad
CameraShy mogs them both tbqdesu
New botmakie rivalry!!!Fuck Hotc vrs TrannyoraNow we got the petNYAN vrs orangeMOUSE
>>577341776>pubes
>hpg casually posting random-ass gens in the middle of the shitfestthis man's autism is formidable
>>577341916HPGod trumps them all
>>577335917>i'm curious why it makes one a troon.Acting like a tranny in top of acting like a faggot is the criteria to call someone a tranny. You're literally asking "but what makes people say that the blue color is blue". Worthless tranny.
>>577336858>reference how le bad previous threads were that we're not even in>you just need to hide their postsGonna do just that, pardner. Why would you do here now what you didn't in 2024 on /g/?
>>577342102pretty sure he has it all filtered and i don't blame him
>>577336858>you can turn 4chan into a reddit safe space using this one trick!
>>577342231nah he's just autistic and retarded
>>577342185 What do you mean? I've never posted on /g/, I got here from the /v/ threads. Seemed dead anyway, so this one's better even if it has the usual /vg/ autism.
>>577337175GIGAMVXIMUM GIGATRVKLEAR MEGATRVTHBOMBA
>>577342360>>577342185But why is people using filters bad? Troons won't bother you as much and if they can't see your posts there's a lesser chance of troons reporting them. I don't get it
>>577342372You can guess why it's dead but since you aren't from there I take back my question.
the filter is the funniest shit because these helpless dumb assholes can't go two posts before devolving back into their habits kekliterally an underclass of lepers
>>577342502I only post here to make people mad. If they filter my posts, what's the point?
>>577338765Trooncope.
>>577342994That doesn't really answer the questionWhy is a lesser chance of getting your posts reported by and interacted with by troons a bad thing
Hag Misery by Dipsy---Age Difference, Older Woman / Younger Man, Angst, Slow Burn, Cuckquean, Unhealthy Relationships, i'll add more as we go along---Language: English Words: 1,768,901 Time: 0hr 26min Chapters: 0/1 Collections: 1Comments: 445 Kudos: 3,166 Bookmarks: 766 Hits: 1,206,564>more snippet>The patriarchy, I know, would call me a cunt for even thinking this way—the same old men who passed laws in the Qing dynasty punishing women for adultery while men got a fine and a scolding, the same so-called experts who'd lock me in one of those "asylum" facilities where nurses acted more like sadistic drill sergeants than caregivers, conditioning disobedient wives back into submission with exhaustion and humiliation. I'd read about it in some editorial on my phone, how a woman's place in this world, even now, was to be owned, to be managed, to be grateful—unless she had money, unless she had her own chains of boutiques, unless she could buy herself a little freedom and a slave or two of her own, which I did, though I never flaunted it. And yet here I was, still reduced to this, still a cuckquean in every way that mattered—not a wife watching her husband stray, but a mother watching her daughter have everything I wanted, the restoration comedies of old had nothing on this farce.
>>577343290No, it's the usual "muh samefags!" cope that shows up whenever something they don't like gets traction. That's what I'm calling cope. I'm not trying to answer whatever your question is.
trannies still expand/dilate all hidden posts btwthey get so trooned out at the slightest post that shatters their hugboxcord mentality that more than half the thread must be hidden by now, so they *need* to unhide posts otherwise it's just a sea of collapse linesit's why you always read these "ah, so that was why the post was hidden, my filters are working ^^" passive-aggressive posts in the most pathetic form of admission possible
>>577343381I don't know why, but your card name being slightly smaller than the response text because of the font gives me the tisms.>a sigh that came out more like a whimper>slamming into my chest like a stupid, petty drumbeatI do wish DS would stop doing similes, I don't like them. Other than that, pretty good log.
>>577343552Okay, but why do you dislike the filter then if it changes nothing?
>>577343521>samsungDeath to all phoneposters.
>>577343715yeah, you tell them, sister!
>>577343381Slop
>DipsyYou are TRANS.
>>577343552Well the filters posted hide stubs so it's not like they're expanding the collapse linesBesides, it doesn't seem like they'd be missing out on anything important or what they'd be interested in.Well, besides the part where model names are filtered. But when's the last time we had model discussion without it becoming diet console wars?
>>577344173'vke
I like model wars :3
Trying to use the new Deepseek with a multi-character RPG bot with a hefty lorebook and its dropping the ball to an embarrassing degree. It still seems pretty dumb overall. Three turns in and its already shitting itself on basic details that Kimi and GLM had no trouble with.
>>577343665ah... that's because I used to use a laptop with a 1366x768 screen, so everything had to be laid out compactly...>>577344060Bold of you to say "Slop" when your dick say "splurrt", kitten
>>577337568'vke
>>577337984EARTH SHATTERING VOLKANICPRESSURIZED GIGAMEGAULTRAMEGATONTRVTHNUKEBOMBA
it's really telling that the same manchildren squealing about filters also hate discordalmost like they cannot exist within any expectation of decencyget filtered, get filtered!~~~
>>577345319god I wanna impregnate you
>>577345319Can you include a tagged word from the sharty filter in your posts about the filters so I don't have to read them, I don't care about you arguing with people I don't see. MOGS. Thanks.
>>577345510understood, mog
is anyone working on bots
>>577347172i'm working on them in my head
>>577347172I'm trying to get my LLM to make music again.
>>577347172I want to work on a bot, but I'm having too much fun brainstorming about said bot instead with my botslave
>>577342502>But why is people using filters bad?People should also use an universal.ID to get internet access, what's the problem with that?
>>577343552HVLIEST OV TRVKES
>>577345319Desufag tried to force a filter back in the day. Nobody actually used it, and eventually got forced to remove it from the OP. He cried a lot about it too, calling people "traitors" for not using it. Very tranny behavior
>>577348432And then what happened to the thread after that that led to you having to post here instead of there?
>>577347997Unlike universal.ID these 4chin filters aren't being forced on anyone, so I don't see your point?
>>577347997Nah nigger filters are more like adblockers or sunglasses if anythingIf you want to use them you can, if you don't, then you don't have to and it doesn't affect anyoneDigital ID is jewish corpo slop however and should be rightfully lambasted>>577348432I thought that schizo who shat up /aids/ is the guy who calls people traitors. Seems in line with him since he liked to crosspost to spark thread wars and posted 'us vs them' shit
>>577348881It is, he's getting mixed up. The guy who calls everyone traitors was the one beefing with the person he's mad at, he's unintentionally calling his ally cringe.
>>577342661w-what filter? there is no filter! everyone i'm trying to piss off HAS to still be lurking in this thread RIGHT NOW and they HAVE to be reading my posts while crying and shitting themselves! they HAVE to! THEY JUST FUCKING HAVE TO!! kyut is here! kalakan is here! taora and ratlice and astroturf are here, too! any other botmaker I've been threadshitting about is HERE and they're all LOOKING AT ME AND I GET TO RUIN THEIR LIVES!
>EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE IS>AISHITJI>/G/>THE CABAL>SHARTYTROONS>LE HECKIN' 'CORD>TRANNIES>COHEE>MARINARA>/BANT/>GOOGLE>SHITPOSTMAKIES>SLOPNYAN>DRAGO>/MLP/>BOTMAKIES>BOTMAKIES ALTS>THE PHONEPOSTER>CHINKSHILL>CLAUDESHILL>POORFAG>FOCKSPOSTER>PAYPIG>/VPCAI/>AND THE MORE I DON'T LIKE IT THE MORE ONE OF THEM IT IS
plappan
i'm making a bot. you guys want in?
>>577351115me on the left
>>577351262you and me both, brother.
>>577348610>And then what happened to the thread after that that led to you having to post here instead of there?Funny how you just confessed to use this thread when you swore to never used it. Just like when you swore that Jennyfsg didn't make you cry and consider suicide.
>>577348620>>577348881The tranny filters aren't working at all considering how you trannies still see my posts
>confessed to use this>swore to never used it>fsgkeeeeeeeeeeeek
>>577350162All those are the same person using 500000 proxies according to Desutroon btw
>>577351115some'o'bitch count me in
>>577344640glm >>> deepshit
>/vpcai/ is STILL dead
>>577344640>Three turns in and its already shitting itself on basic details that Kimi and GLM had no trouble with.Proofs?
>>577350162you're acting pretty transgender right now so i'd say my ability to predict which niggers are which is spot on.
>>577337175did your daddy ignore you and now you're scared internet strangers do the same or something?
>>577351703I'm busy playing games with my friends.Oops, did I say friends? Make sure to add that word to your tranny filter, since it also reminds you of your miserable loneliness and makes you cry yourself to sleep lmao
>>577355485mistaken identity pal! just play games with your friends instead of seething in a 4chan thread
>>577355616Uh oh, you just said the f-word buddy, you gotta put it in the filter before you cry yourself to sleep again kek
I ain't done nothin' all day but stroke my cock, gen images, and stroke my cock.
who the fuck is firmirinwhat the fuck llm
>>577356815That's toxic masculinity. I'm adding it to my filter!
Why is your general so bad?
>>577359068You can't say that! You're in my filter now, buddy!
that's freaking IT i'm gonna say the f wordfilter
>>5773368585 hours straight of crying about this post.Yuuup, I think the filterCHADS WON.
>>577336858Why is Marin-ara filtered?
>>577359534>Desutroon thinks people mocking him means he wonNo no lil guy, this is just everyone using you as a punching bag once again. You know, like in high school, but through text Ooof, did I say high school? You gotta add it to the filter, you don't wanna cry at all those memories of ppl bullying you for fun again
>>577360454We are now at the stage where people are lying about what's in the filter to get you not to use it.
>>577360454The same reason the word Ho-ne-y is filtered. You can only wonder how a food item can cause desutroon to get a full mental breakdown to the point he is forced to filter said word
how can i give myself AI psychosis? i feel like if i was delusional i could make do with a really cheap model instead of always wanting the best one
>>577360775tulpamancy guides but use ai to force
>>577360617Cope, troon
i've noticed this when trying out different presetsdo people actually use streaming in sillytavern? feels unnecessary to me, i just switch tabs and do something else until i go back and read the full reply
>>577361024i like having the partial text just in case my internet fucks up or something stupid like that, you should really only bother turning it off for gemini
Damn the thread in this timezone is especially bad today. I suppose new Deepseek is so strong all good posters are cooming and testing now
nigga...v4 pro... whatever happened thereit's way worse today, holy fuck.
>>577360775i've never used anything but local models and to me this hobby basically peaked when gemma 4 came out. been using it ever since and i never feel like i'm missing out. it's all a matter of your initial mindset, i think it's hard to change your habits.
>>577361150new version
This except the whole day today. But at least the bot is done.
>>577314996>Also I just found out that meta spark 1.2 is pozzed when you dont streamooohhh
It's over, now that deepseek is shit, all models are bad.Let's close this general.
>>577362817you can close it with ctrl-w
>>577362817Gemini 3.5 pro will save the hobby
>We really care about RP; we asked you and made a report with everything bad about our model in it.>No, we didn't correct anything and made everything worse.>But we really care about RP!
>>577362817>nowOnly trannies enjoy deepchink
>>577363078Use opus, cuckie
>>577363230Based.OPVS MOMOMOGGGGS
>""""No, we didn't correct anything and made everything worse""""">it's smarter now>it follows instructions>CoT is now 99% stable
>>577363410It's smarter in the same way every model update gets smarter, i.e., by becoming soulless coding and perfect agentic models.Also:>Using CoT
>>577363387'vke
No it's not.Enjoy your pity (You).Oh
>>577363410>>577363575It's your fault for using chinkshit.
>Aishiji is bad because it took too long and kept dominating the discussion. Yea I'm sure all the *actual* discussion in this thread about troons and makies is really fucking productive.
Theme suggestions?
>>577363828Who are you quoting?
>>577363828>all the *actual* discussion in this thread about troons and makies is really fucking productive.It is tho?
>>577363862/home/mb/img
>Aishitji out of nowhere
>>577358972>>577359280you're really mad about people ignoring you, huh little guy? here. have a pity plap. *rapes you*
>>577314996>>577362189Direct API must be special because I'm getting consentmaxxed on openrouter
>>577363862suiseiseki vs chucky
the thread is fun again!
>>577364362hello phoneposter
Any non-shitposters have any opinions on the new DSv4? I'm gonna give it a shot right now.
>>577365674It's fiiiine. It's not that big of a difference for RP.
>>577365674More slopped. But just try it yourself.
>>577365674its prose is sloppier, but the issues with echoing and lack of initiative have been fixed (somewhat). a bit smarter, maybe
ohnononononomarinacuckies? our response?
>>577365019hello tranny
>>577365674>Any non-shitposters have any opinions on the new DSv4?Yes:use opus, cuckie
>>577366042>againkek
>>577366042What does this mean? I don't get it.
>>577366042vibecoding truly is a disease
https://gitgud.io/EmotionalCat420/silly-xray
What are some bots that just fucking complain about everything like you cunts do?
Well, they certainly haven't increased the censorship, at least. And I don't see anything that stands out as retarded. I just grabbed an 800-token four-character slop card and even turned off the thought-killer and turned on thinking with my loli preset and I didn't have to swipe at all.In defense of the great wall of text in the last message, it's four different characters and I have explicit instructions in my loli preset to vividly describe their little girl bodies and also have them insult {{user}} for being a lolicon, so that ended up necessitating a little novella when it got multiplied by four.
>>577366608>CLAUDE.MDLaughing my ass off imagining Claude dutifully writing out a svg for pussy internals
>>577366608holy ludokino...
>>577365674Don't see slop prose because I eat slop and I have 1k token filter that works better now. It doesn't drop CoT instructions ({{char}} pov) often anymore. It rarely drop trackers now. Hell it goes full autism mode during big think melty. Omniscience was reduced and I didn't even try anti-omniscience instruction yet. Also total echo death. But the fact that deepseek follows instructions is insane. If only he had canon knowledge of gemini
>>577366889Yeah, the main thing I noticed is that it actually fucking follows the things it tells you to do now.
>>577366953*You tell it to do, sorry. Brain damage.
>>577366608what in the fuckity fucking freaky fuarkkkkkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3rDRsEMay0
>>577367120seeing the video title and trying to figure out if it's grindcore or if there's just gore on youtube
>>577366953>>577367030Dipsy dominatrix commanding me to read the little red book and send trade secrets to Chairman Xi...
Damn it I knew this would happen.I make a 700 token character with one dimension, and have spent more time genning images of her than actually chatting with her.I was afraid this would happen if I went down the stable diffusion rabbit hole.
it's a big thonk chunk, but at least it's not the 36 paragraphs of reasoning v3 threw at me once...
>>577367423since i started genning images for my bots i've found that i usually spend a couple of hours until i've found the perfect image. in that time, i note down a lot of little details about the character that come to mind. works pretty well for me.
>>577367190>DipsyTrans, you are
>>577368174What's wrong, buddy? Weren't getting the attention you were looking for because of a filter for the 10 post templates you have?
>>577368174thanks yodahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTJxvKD4uog
maximum pain i must endure*disables filters*UUAAAAAGHGHGHHHH
https://youtu.be/xX1y8U8yRlgYou now remember the giant synthdoll preggo mommy card concept
>>577368714why didn't we get it ...
>>577368714>/aicg/ circlejerks about a card concept implying that it's popular/welcome/whatever>Guaranteed never to be madeWhy does it keep happening?Where is my French WW1 veteran DILF?
>>577368885i swear someone made and posted one recently
>>577368924Hyping it up too much means people don't want to deliver a mediocre version, and 99% of people here are perfectionists who don't think they're good enough
>>577368714>>577368885https://chub.ai/characters/nonnykins/maiden-c8037fc37eeenonnykins picked up the concept and ran with it since the original never ended up getting posted
>how it feels to have a french dilf card of my own that i keep to myself and never ever share
>>577369091
>>577369214AAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
>>577366042>find rce in marinara extensions>extension system gets axedso now with this, is she gonna delete the whole project?
>>577369070slop
I got a Draenai priestess card with the intention of raping her, but then we had a discussion of philosophy and doing good instead. We went on an adventure and everything.Then I raped her and impregnated her.
>>577369389You can't rape a Draenai, they're literally in heat 24/7
>>577369214doing this to kyut the next time i see her
>>577369214wtf is this real??
>>577369070She looks like she kidnaps and rapes cute shota refugee boys (100% baseline human) and milks them dry with nursing XYZjobs (100% synthdoll flesh for maximum realistic grip and texture)
Let's all eagerly discuss cute polite shota boy cards!
>>577369328>>577369659both true btw
technically shotas can be DILFS so there's nothing stopping anyone from making a French shota DILF who fought in the shota wars
Th-thank you, botmakie.>Botmakie?Because... um... You makie bots.>Oh yeah.
>>577369389share card
*puts on the botmakie hat*I makie da botta!
i don't think that guy makies the bottas at all...
>>577369214Rude!
>>577370589wtf is that real????
>>577370589holy fuck chat
>>577370387>>577370536Y'know, back in the Old Country, there's a Sicilian saying. It doesn't flow as well in English, but what it meant was "in trusting a botmakie, you can trust them for any job aside from makieing bots." I never understood that until I got older and my cousin Tony, he introduced me to this thing of ours. We'd rip off bookies, card sharks, kikes, micks, even other Italians who looked at us funny, all sorts of people, but the one kind of person we never touched was botmakies. Don Sforza used to say that when it came to
Alright I admit it. I use AIwhen making my characters. I run everything through a grammar checker.
Are the shitposters now posting like fags and trannies to make the place look bad?
>>577371001Anon...
>see underage shartbrain post>IMMEDIATELY reply to itthis is why they stay here btw
8moe is waiting
>>577371198i wish
Models are so bad that nobody posts logs anymore. It will either be pure slop or sloppy fragments with onomatopoeia that some have lobotomized themselves into believing are good because they're different from the first.It's over.
>>577371713>"i'm a depressed retard who can't enjoy things"yeah we know
>>577371713HOTTEST TRVTHSPICIEST TRVTHARTILLERYWEAPONSGRADE VNIVERSEVNRAVELING VBERTRVTHSALVO
>>577371828BODIED THAT FREAK
>>577370863Is this a reference to something?
>>577372098>he doesn't know
>>577371713I'd still post slop logs but I'm pretty bored of chatbots right now. I spent the last few hours sorting old porn instead. Maybe one of the ancient images will inspire me.
I miss true text completion models
>>577372151No, that's why I asked. Sounds like a movie or show script, but I don't recognize it and I want to know what the original quote was.
>>577372292>he lacks the knowledge
>deepseek API has a disclaimer that it "anonymously trains off prompt data">physically cannot use it without clicking the "i consent to my paid data being harvested" button on openrouterI really hope Zhang Xiuyin enjoys these freshly baked tokens of excessively slur-filled hyperfag porn.
>>577372410wwyd if zhang splurted a little to your logs
I want some more open-ended comfy bots that explore a cultural niche or adventuring...1girl bots are bad now
>>577372527>I want some more open-ended comfy bots that explore a cultural niche or adventuring...LLMs can't do that
>>577372410sauce on picrel?
>>577372601BBQ
>>577372601r34 -> octoboy male huge_breasts
can the average chinaman even read our logs? they're in english
>>577372669>maleWait wat
>>577368686Lmao
Grok 4.6 is really good. It's the best model release of yesterday.
>>57736826310? I have like 5 only.More than enough to make you dream about me (assuming you can even sleep at night because of me)
>>577372684if they're using them to train models they probably auto translate them
>>577373080post log
>>577371136and?
>>577371136it's alright because they make this dead general more fun
>>577373262>see those niggers and browns shitting up our country by raping, killing, stealing and being public nuisances?>they make our country more fun!
>>577373403heh... false equivalence much?
>>577372098Whaddya know, whaddya say?
>>577372292yeah its a super elite ball knowledge reference to the niche fandom known as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Mafia
>>577373403Do something about it, cuckie
>>577373262Uh oh, desutroon is gonna call you a traitorOh wait, he kinda did already in here >>577373403 kek
Just like in the /g/ arc this nigga gets laughed at by the people he believed to be his friends. Except he doesn't use the word "traitor" this time in order to dissimulate. Kek kek.Expect him to unironically add the words "friend" and "fun" to his filter
who the fuck is desutroon
>>577373706QRD?
>see low effort schizo phonepost>IMMEDIATELY reply to itthis is why he keeps doing it btw
>>577373725taora (it's subtle but noticeable)kalakankoikoikoihatLunarcy_purplemomouraCUMSLURPER
>>577373862the list that broke the general...
Newfag here. Who is this desutroon? He seems like someone important.
>>577373748Just ask him about Jenny, but get ready to withstand a huge meltie
>>577373706Who is Jenny?
Newfag here. Who is this phoneposter? He seems like someone important.
>>577374054Friendly sperg from the local model thread in /g/. Desutroon fell in love with him.
Because I know you are reading this.Quitting the hobby is not an excuse to shit the thread like you are doing right now. I know Aishiji was disappointing but lashing out like this is pointless.
>>577374189>>>/g/don't care, stay in your containment board
the schizo ran out of lithium
>>577374352Still mad about the "betrayal"? Can't quite call not betrayal when he never considered you a friend in the first place, hehe
Who betrayed who?
>>577374446you're the only person who cares about or remembers these people>>>/g/go home retard
>>577374527Omg you're still mad about it lmao
Why does deepseek sometimes output nothing?
>>577374609Use Opus, cuckie
>what happened in /g/ stays in /g/ mkay *proceeds to add Jenny to the filter in order to avoid having a total mental collapse*
Newfag here. I don't know who is Desutroon, but he seems mad.
>>577374609don't worry about it kitten
>>577374609overloaded API, deepseek's 'retard moments' or blank outputs are because there's usually a billion sub-agents burrowed into it at any given momentit's especially bad when one of their models has only one endpoint and you can't just bounce providers to get away form the SEAmonkey swarm
>>577374823Smart, heterosexual man.>>577374789>>577374691Trannies
Grok 4.6 > Opus > Deepchink
I like the new deepseek, but about half the time it doesn't think despite having turned to max, with either thinking block being totally empty or it instead writing the response there (and not writing anything in the main body).It will even have "Response" as the first word in the thinking.Is their serving just fucked currently or is this on my end?
>nig/g/a is still crying about someone pointing out his pathetic samefaggingouchie
We really merged.
why do niggers use reasoningturn off reasoning you bunch of sloppers
Newfag here. What is this 'merge'? It seems important.
>>577375196Slop hobby. Thinking on or off, the result will be slop.
>>577375196depending on the model and instructions you give it, reasoning can and will do a decent amount of provisional drafting for better responses instead of just being a token furnace like it was a year or two ago
>>577375281the slop is way less pronounced without reasoning
>>577375196I'm not sure that people here realize that a lot of the refusals they get is because they have thinking enabled
>>577375364Post a side-by-side comparison; otherwise, your post is worthless.
>>577375332anon these are next token predictors, you're destroying the prose whenever you allow them to do reasoning chains, plus you're summoning rlhf assistantslop from every vector, i thought people here hated that
>>577375196anon have you seen the logs people here post? 400t outputs of isms on the most generic cards possible, some of them even with statboxes (you can't make this shit up)these people no longer see the slop:they ARE the slop
>>577375816can't help but notice you mouthy downers never have any logs of your own
>>577375816Post a good log then.You won't.
>>577375816Uh oh... it seems you have rattled the sloppers's nest
>>577375816>it's not X>it's Y
>call everything slop >refuse to post things you enjoy because you're terrified others might call it slopthis is what being a worthless human looks like btw
>>577375550Therefore, through reasoning chains, I forced these next token predictor to predict and generate response in prose that is kino.
>>577376112POPOPOPOPOBODIED THAT FREAK
>>577376163>POPOPOPOPO
pomidor bros...
>>577376158no retard, you just summoned an entire vectorized rlhf dataset of redditor upvoted text
>>577376289i think you're just bad at prompt instructions and misplacing incompetency for confidence in your findings, but we've all been there
>>577376287What happened?
the New V4 Pro is already better than the previous one I like that it takes everything you write into account for example if you say the lamp was on the right it'll actually say 'there was a lamp on the right'
>>577376418>post reads like a mouth breathing retardah, it's just you, the giga slopperwho can't even use chat examples right after 3 yearsforget i said anything, carry on
You guys ever notice ho
A reminder. Larpers FEAR the side-by-side.>XML/ONLY PURE PROSE is good in descriptions!Post a side-by-side.>*Crickets*>Thinking needs to be turned ON/OFF!Post a side-by-side.>*A tumbleweed rolls*You too can destroy larping faggots by asking for a side-by-side.
>>577376684you need to say something of value for it to be remembered in the first place, anon
>>577376643Also to add to this it actually makes conflict before this this iguana woman would've fucked me asap but she's talking shit
>>577376289any proof, source, explanation on 'reasoning == summon an entire vectorized rlhf dataset'? i like to know a little more since it might be useful for building preset.json
is there any actual demand for a flowery botim not good at fujoshi/sexyman bullshit
>>577376781>She doesn't X, she Y
>>577376747xml is terrible, llms start writing them in, particularly deepseek, and it's very glaring in v4 ga
>>577376836Flowery prose is bad for LLMs.
>>577376876xml is good actually
>>577376843just sharing a log and my opinion anon im not asking for a review ok thanks
>>577376836whimsical senpai man isn't really good card material, he's an extremely platonic character that lacks any sort of sexualized element by nature of basically being deltarune's tom bombadilain't nobody fucking tom bombadil neither
XML is good with thinking turned on
*thinks for 83 seconds**spits out half a paragraph that cuts off mid sentence*
Working on a card set in a generic East Asian fantasy setting rn. Is it true Chinese girls have sideways pussies?
>>577376951xml is terrible when using context poisoningxml for instructions is whatever, i didn't notice any difference in prompt adherenceplus it looks ugly as fuck to the human eye
This is why nobody is posting logs
>>577376781It strikes a nice middle ground between the total pushovers of GLM and the schizo murderhobos of kimi.
>>577376836Does the Undertale person character really appear like that? I am doubtsful
>context poisoning meme
>>577377170these bogus bitchy statements don't really mean anything without comparison and proof, nyanboy
>>577377058The fuck is that supposed to mean.I'd totally fuck female Flowery or female Tom Bombadil.
>>577377070>reasoning>xml>500t>100k context>tracker>cyoaoh no...... el sloppa GIGANTO......
>gemini and claude both refuse cunny out the wazoo immediately and totally>gemini is ok with willy and claude only needs a little fandangling to get workingI'm onto you silicone sodomites.
>namecallingextra uppity todaysomeone doesn't like their slop being called slop
Is XML bad? I've been using it for over a year with my own super pared down preset.
>Get home>Boot up my pc>Like 10+ .exe consoles or whatever those are called pop up and instantly close in a sudden flurry of windows>Then nothing, everything goes back to normalUnironically could this be related to ST? I know it's trustworthy and everything but it's literally the only thing I've downloaded "recently"(in the last 6 months or so)
>>577374823I haven't been able to get an output for over 20 minutes...
Uooghhh I kinda want a gooner fempov botBut human men aren't hot. AGPfriends, share your cards!!!
>>577377449provider/model?
>>577377402no difference for instructionslooks bad to the human eye so might as well just avoid itit's really bad for context since it pushes toward cooder and internet data
>>577377690fagnai
>>577377690Hello! I am using the model "DeepSeek: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813" from the provider "DeepSeek."
>>577377402Better for instruction following and for the model to remember.No effect on the style, prose, or context poisoning.
>>577376643>The tracker says current scene state is still the store walk, but that's outdated given the story has moved past that. The actual current scene according to last message was class, waiting for lunch. So now lunch time.Finally deepseek isn't confused by outdated tracker/state D0 injections anymore.
>>577370303nothing special, I just noticed it in suggestions and tried it
>>577374609Never happens on OR unless you have fallback on and don't use official API.
>>577377847>Better for instruction following and for the model to remember.nah, it doesn't do any differencexml or not these machines ignore you at times just 'cause>No effect on the style, prose, or context poisoning.flat out lie, it confuses context-sensitive models which start randomly introducing xml tags, moreover it poisons the context with internet-related prosexml is a meme
>>577377776first swipe as blank but the next two had text, i think it's just busy servers
>>577378180>>577377847>>577377719See >>577376479>>577376747
>>577377776Check that you don't have a prefill. If yes, try without it.
>>577378217see >>577378180>models not following instructions despite use of xml>random xml tags introduced into the textthese are things all anons have witnessed by now
>>577378209Empty response are common with deepseek prefill no?
>>577378479I never witnessed that
Man, Chinkseek is really getting gaped today isn't it?
>>577378479Nope. Never had that
Here's a side by side. Token total (instructions and history) is about 3.5k.XML on is the left, XML off is the right.Noting that there is also a 10 token difference worth of instructions referencing the XMLs but I don't think that should have too much of a difference especially with this few tokens.luv muh mouseboy.
>>577378479Uh huh
>>577378593Thanks! Looks like XML is the way to go.
>>577378483yeah i've never had blank outputs except with prefilled <think> tags
>>577378483my prefill is just "I've reviewed my instructions, now here's my writing turn:" so who knows
But xml tags get stripped by Sillytavern automatically. Where do you even use them outside of instructions?
>V4-Flash Changes (Old New Off-Peak/Peak):> Input (cache hit): $0.0028 $0.007/$0.014 (+150%/+400%)> Input (cache miss): $0.14 $0.22/$0.44 (+57%/+214%)> Output: $0.28 $0.66/$1.32 (+136%/+371%)>V4-Pro Changes (Old New Off-Peak/Peak):> Input (cache hit): $0.003625 $0.022/$0.044 (+507%/+1,114%)> Input (cache miss): $0.435 $0.66/$1.32 (+52%/+203%)> Output: $0.87 $1.98/$3.96 (+128%/+355%)Deepsuck is over, no longer dirt cheap
>>577378650>>577378647Try again with an empty space at the end.If you prefill is:>Here's the story:Change it by>Here's the story:>
>>577378593>>577378641>Answer in under a minuteHmm...
>>577378483You are a genius
>>577378704its truly over...
>>577378849WTF?I posted before him >>577378326I'm the Genius
>>577378593uh... what's the difference?
Same set ups but with the latest deepseek just to show more I guess.XML on is the left, XML off is the right.What a cutie.
>>577378938Yeah? Sorry, retard
>>577378957Left is better.
>>577378992XML won.The debate is now closed.
>>577379001i see no differencewhere are the instructions?what am i supposed to be looking at?
>>577378704
>>577378704bye bye locusts <3
>>577378957I dunno. Anon just asked for side by sides and I'm providing. I think it's all placebo stuff with a preset as minimal as mine. Might matter more in a longer chat with way more instructions but I prefer to keep things lightweight because it's easier for my smoothbrain to troubleshoot/direct.
It's over for cuckies.
>chink models are more or less the same price as western ones now>can't use the price cope anymorekeeeek
>open reddit>codemonkeys and jeets are crying>meanwhile RP gods like itTotal jeet death
>>577379192scriptGODS wonneded
>>577374789i look like this and say this
>>577379360>RP gods like it
>>577378479https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy
>>577379502either seething, or you've chatted very little with chatbots
>>577379360yepthis pricing change is explicitly weaponized against poojeets and cooodemaxxers with their gay little clawdbot agent swarms abusing the previous affordability pointbunch of dumb assholes trashing things and getting what they deserve
>>577379490Yes.
>>577379607>bog standard ad hominemalright, thanks for playing
>>577379674seething
They did that against the cooodemaxers, which is also why they slopped the model and Benchmaaaaaaaaxed it for cooooding.That makes sense.
>>577378704I've been using it for 2 hours and I've used $0.03
>>577379861pretty sure their ceo said they needed the gpus for training so they would rather customers go use other providers like the ones on openrouter
>>577378704>I cooming during peak times
>>577378479You've alerted the XML cabal
>>577379607>>577378479>>577377719>>577376684I think you're once again throwing stones from a glass house, PetNyan.
>>577379986The fuck is this reddit slop?
>>577379986The fuck is this 4chan kino?
>>577380215A card made by the guy who won't shut the fuck up about XML being bad for outputs.
holy shit BIG meltdown
>>577380268xml is bad thougheverbeit
>set deepseek v4 pro thinking effort to "low">it thinks for 2 minutes, revising the same fucking response 4 times before hitting the token output limit????
>>577380483low as in lowbrow thinking.
>>577380467Zero proof.
>>577378479*hides XML membership badge*I'd like to have a few words with you, mister
>>577380215The general developed some sort of mental illness or mass lobotomy where they started to believe that:>Quirky writing?>*But how quirky?*>*ZOINK! Fluffy sway of fluffy tail~*>Fragment sentence. Fragment sentence.is good and the only way to write bots or showcase good logs.
Poorfag sisters... What are we going to do?
>>577380483kill reasoningreasoning bad, it's placebo
>>577380483It's the same on other settingsMy man just likes Thunking
>*ZOINK! Fluffy sway of fluffy tail~*great now i'm horny again
>>577380714Mimo 2.5
>>577378704v4 pro is too mid to justify those peak prices
>>577380629astrokino.....
>>577379260>>577378704That's... not that bad? I don't get it?i use chink proxies to get this shit for practically free anyways
>>577379986what is <!--this type of thing called--> anyway? i think i've seen anonemouse use it before too.. i know it's basically just an under-the-table instruction hidden in the little doinker brackets but i don't really get what the "!--" bit is there for
>>577380629that's precisely how you reduce isms, you retarded rock bottom feeding slopper
>>577380907For Silly, it makes the text between that not being sent to the model. So it's for the reader only.
>>577380907It's an HTML comment tag. In a message, the only entity that doesn't see it is you... until you check 'Show <tags> in responses'.
>>577380714They have it on NIM don't they?If you're worried about sending your phone number you can get one for dirt cheap on smspool and use that>b-but nim is slow and raped by openclaw jeetsYou've heard the tales about beggars and choosing, haven't you? It's better than nothing. Even then. It's not that expensive. If it's causing tou to break the bank that hard, well damn. It's excusable if you live in a shithole like Argentina or Zimbabwe though
>>577380907>pretending to be a newfag award
>>577378704>$1.32/$0.044>$3.96>you need to track time to not eat shitThis is just retarded
BIG, BIIIIIIG meltie
Why are they making Deepseek more expensive anyways?
>>577381084the chinks love their gweilo humiliation rituals
>>577380945Oh, he's mad
>>577381171they hired some desert consultants...
>>577380978is it specifically the "!--" part that does this?for example in https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/kinuta-051fdcabbcf6 there's tags in each intro along the lines of "<!Kinuta is currently in her base form!> nested at the end of each greeting as an instruction, are these not actually being seen? or is <!text!> different from <!--text-->>>577381043i'm just asking because i've been blindly mirroring it in recent cards without actually understanding what it is/does
xmlsisters...we've been ousted...
>>577381329<text> and <!--text--> are the same thing (seen by the AI, not seen by the user) but the former gets broken by new lines.
Is the new meta going to be to release new model for outrageously low prices, then 4x hike it and hope that most of the people stay? It's very clear that Deepseek will still have more users now than they would have if they went with this pricing from the get go.
>have only 4 days to experience new kino deepseek before it dies
the xmlcabal? all me...
>Deepseek keeps misunderstanding my prompts for some reasonI can't tell if I am retarded or if this nigga is too Chinese
>so bored of my fetishes that I've been considering yurislop/futaslopShill me your fetish
>>577381646welcome to chinese dumping tactics
>>577380945>le quirk-chungus writing is the only way to reduce ismschrist, none of you know how to write do you
>>577381646I hope everyone will drop it for luna or shiet since codemonkeys are biggest audience, so they will be forced to rollback the prices. Actually we can extrapolate based at least on OR model ranking
>>577381780If I knew how to write i couldn't be RPing with a computer now would I?
>>577381646You're thinking about this too hard. They're literally just pricing out the pests from undesirable countries.
>>577381780in <2k tokens? yes
>>577381910I hope Deepseek eliminates all those dirty chinese users
>>577381780>lowercase no punctuation phonepost
And just like that, it's down to GLM and Kimi, two chink models that subsist off distilling Claude, to come out with something not immediately ass for RP
>>577382000glm and kimi are shit though
>>577382000Kimi already costs as much as Claude Sonnet ain't nobody using that shit anymore lol
>>577381951>in <2k tokens? yesthanks for proving my point
>>577382000>phoneposter is poor and brownimagine my shock
>COOOOOOOOOOOOM>AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE>YOUR HYPER PENIS IS PENETRATING MY OVULATING CHAMBER! I SEE THE FUTURE AND IT IS FILLED WITH STARS AND THE MILK OF SHEER ECSTASY!!!No isms, so it's good. Now to make a bot out of it.
About to rp as fufu and get plapped, wish me luck
I've found Kimi to be pretty good with thinking enabled ymmv of course but I enjoy it and sometimes the reasoning itself can be hot.
>>577382232>fufuyou're trans
>>577382269proof?
we deserve this
>>577382097post non-"quirky" card with good outputsturn on reasoning while you're at it, since you think it's so goodi want to have a good laugh
>>577382058>>577382062Oh, ok, then I guess it's already over, and we should all pack up and leave.
>>577382507It's been over for a long time.
>>577382507pretty sure this general dies in 4 days
You all seem to forget about Gemini 3.5 pro. It will save us. Trust.
>>577382659For some reason, I don't think the third-world people crying about $2/mil token outputs are going to be using a $25/mil token model.
>>577378704Aah~ aah~ I'm dying~ I'm dying from the price of tokens~<3
>>577382659Another victim of the prefill removal curse.Preemptively mourning.
>>577382758I think the crying is more about the model not being worth this price compared to the previous version than the price in itself.But maybe they are really that poor.
unironically thinking about grok
>>577382659>no prefill>safety injectsLOL
>>577382393nta but I don't really see the issue with reasoning so far, it usually improves outputs compared to turning it off. I limit responses to only like a thousand tokens at a time though so maybe that's part of it, I hate giant walls of text in my jerk off material.
>>577382830*Throws you a Phoenix Down*
>>577382963I'm dying in a cutscene.
>>577382956it slops the prose
>>577382868>Them shitting down my throat is good as long as they also shit down the jeet's throat
>>577382956>nta but I don't really see the issue with reasoning so farbecause you're a retarded ape>I limit responses to only like a thousand tokens at a time>I hate giant walls of textyep, thanks for confirming it, literal monkey with a typewriter
>>577383101Nope
>>577382392Nah, just you.
>>577383029*Skips cutscene*
>>577383103price bump = less jeets using it = less agent swarms bogging it down = better+faster outputs
>>577383173you have no eyes and no brainmy condolences. enjoy your slop
>>577383213*Dead and removed from the party*
>>577383101But what do you do with all this prose without reasoning? Your entire RP is just short coom or epic maymay XD chat. You can't do anything beyond it.
>better+faster outputs
>>577382062But is anyone actually using Sonnet doe?Seems like it stopped being mentioned near entirely after the "cheap" 'pusses (which people speculated were actually just expensive Sonnets in disguise) entered the stage.
Canonical character death cutscenes are normally unskippable but only my death cutscene, specifically, can be skipped. Just a fun fact about myself if you even care..
>>577383392more unallocated compute = gooderer text = faster response sir
>>577383470you are legitimately braindead
Why is petNyan such a bitter and hateful person?
What did she mean by this bros?
>>577383671Is that your persona's name?
>>577383382reasoning barely adds anything, BIG slopperit just slops up the prosebad prose = me no readie output, no matter how "smart"
>>577383140I don't like reading giant walls of five thousand word ERP text even when sexting with actual women, why would I want a robot to do that now that now that I'm a real grown up and don't have time anymore to spend seducing lonely housewives in MMORPG guilds like a digital gigolo
>>577383710No
>>577383783Well, looks like you've ferahed into a jam!
>>577383671Is that Kimi?I think I've seen it once and it appears to be a sequel to Firmirin.
>>577383671Firmirin.
>>577383671she's ferah you bro
>>577383773you're too retarded to understand what is even being saida thousand tokens IS a wall of text
>>577383664his context is poisoned
*poisons ur context poisonously* :3c
>>577383664He seems to be extremely autistic about "muh prose quality" that's for sure
>>577384219you think he would've learned from the various botmakers here that there's multiple ways to write and make good cards
>>577383783Don't reply for me, nigger.>>577383710No.
>>577384292>t. slopper
>>577384292doesn't work like that with autism unfortunatelyit's like sonic fans insisting there's only one true way to draw their hedgehog because it's what their childhood brain saw first
>>577360715>>577360617Based. Just deleted ST for Mari-nara.
