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Wakamo
Mind control is bad writing and that's fine. You can like Blue Archive and still think mind control is shit writing.It's fine in porn because porn doesn't need story but it's terrible in actual stories because it's just a shitty way to force characters to do retarded things or act out of character then the author can blame it all on the mind control instead of coming up with an actual reason for the conflict or fight that results in character growth.
>>577344101What was her name again?
>>577344282>Mind control is bad writingNo it isn't.
So what is Makoto's mystic? I know Hina is Baal. Is she Lucifer?
>>577344282I am sure people on this thread don’t like your kind
>>577344282It's not mind control, it's hypnotic suggestion.
>>577344282>Mind control is bad writingExplain why
>>577344282>It's fine in pornLike hell it is. Shit is boring.
Hina can only job to me
>>577344315Karen
>>577344101No rules, no boundaries. She doesn't flinch at torture, human trafficking, or genocide. She's not loyal to a flag or a school or any set of ideals. She trades blood for credits. She's your new student.
>>577344449>because it's just a shitty way to force characters to do retarded things or act out of character then the author can blame it all on the mind control instead of coming up with an actual reason for the conflict or fight that results in character growth.
>>577344282>he says after reading a crude summary>"No I refuse to read the actual chapter, because I consider it bad, i don't have to read something to think its bad"
>>577344282>Mind control is bad writingShould've put Hina in a terrible position and force her to go rogue instead of doing this dumb brainwashing shit. It would've been a good excuse for her to retire from being a prefect and go to another school. Like Abydos.
pits archve
>>577344458I made this post
>>577344534Retarded. It's a theoretical weapon. Weapons can be used to coerce people. That isn't out of character.
>>577344282THEY'RE SLEEPER AGENTS. It's mental conditioning and is the better of use of the trope because it sets the precedent of what Gehenna used to be.
>>577344534Now try again without the tears
THE WILL OF MEG
>>577344534Goddamn some of you niggers need to read real books.
>>577344449>>577344437The guy complaining about mind control for the last 20 hours straight literally admitted last thread he didn't even read it. He just got angry at initial spoilers and is now adamantly sure that the chapter is bad because it "involves cliche tropes".I can almost guarantee this guy has not read a single chapter of Blue Archive anything if that's his criticism. He's just a tourist trying to shitpost for replies.
>>577344282In this case mind control is ok since we already have foreshadow about it and it fit with the idea of the Thunder Emperor being a control freak
NK ULTRA WAS REALMIND CONTROL IS REAL
>>577344723very cute momoi
My Wide Bride
TVtropes ruined an entire generation of men
>>577344282even the main antagonist design is shit
>>577344853Wide indeed
>>577344101I was too late with my soundpost OP
>>577344723>Goddamn some of you niggers need to read real books.Never going to happen. I curate what fiction I absorb fully. I look up spoilers to stuff to avoid garbage and only consume what is good. A pity I didn't research Blue Archive after volume F before taking it into me.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=hina_%28blue_archive%29+mind_control+&z=5Soon we're going to see plenty of mind-controlled Hina fanarts, both good and bad way
tl:dr on the current meltdown, what happened this time?
>its up to pink to save the dayBased
Guys I think I wanna fuck PINK
>>577341630I need to know the ASMR that fucked you up this hard?
>>577344282Truth nuke. Why did they even bother with this bullshit? The rest of the chapter was perfectly fine, and Shouko's methods of exploiting Sensei's trust and influence were fresh and interesting for a BA villain. They could have just pushed ahead with those conditions and ended with one of the best volumes we've had in years, but we got this retarded shit instead. Unlucky.
>>577344903Sorry...I didn't know someone else is baking
https://x.com/Blue_ArchiveJP/status/2087736375206658178
>MK-ULTRA was an illegal mind-control research program that the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency operated between 1953 and 1964. The CIA conducted experiments using high doses of LSD and other drugs, hypnosis, electroshock, and sensory deprivation on subjects who often had no idea that they were part of a covert test.>electroshockInb4 the name Thunder Emperor came from her electrocuting any rebels
>>577344534Bro why does every person that criticize the story comes across as a low iq brown subhuman>Zero fucking reading comprehension>Made up shit because they don't play the game>Completely misunderstanding a fucking simple gacha story>0 fucking consistent arguments moves goalposts every 5 seconds
>>577344282>>577345074you don't even know how to fix the story, all you do just whining
>>577345102Hanae milkMine milkSerina you've got some growing to do
>>577344249mmmm stinky fox
>Mind control plotIt's literally Justice League
I also think mind control stories are generally garbage especially in capeslop but I shan't say anything more and will let it play out. Maybe Hina and Makoto WILL face actual punishments for starting a war. I don't expect anything worse than what Mika got though.
>>577344723The reading comprehension level on /bag/, let alone the larger gacha game community, is obscenely poor. And they are proud of their ignorance.
>>577345102I can't read the moon runes but it's basically this right?
>>577344903kino never dies, and there's always a next thread
>>577345187I don't know why you're quoting me with another person, but I just finished reading the update and came here to complain. For how to fix it, literally delete the last to sections and continue the story with Shouko's group manipulating Gehenna's students little by little. But it's too late for that now.
>>577345332World End is the best Code Geass opening
>>577345105Its due to an old mistranslation name of Ivan the TerribleBecause Terrible was also translated as thunder due to a mistranslation, which ended up sticking. JPfags found it interesting that way.So now "Terrible" gets translated as "Thunder"However they don't want to translate it as Terrible, because modern englishfags don't realize that Terrible can mean "mighty, imposing, strong", they think it means badSo its easier to stick with Thunder Emperor or sometimes "Tyrant Emperor"So "The great and terrible emperor" ends up being "Tyrant Emperor" or "Thunder Emperor" sometimes.
Mika was right about gehenoids, but don't worry she will save the day.
I'm going to shill one of my favourite novels The Manchurian Candidate. It is a good piece of literature that incorporates brainwashing. It has war, it has incest, it has self loathing and real dumb hijinks.Doom/10.
leave it to WAKA
>If I told you to kill all the Gehenners, it wouldn't matter how hard you resisted.
>Thunder emperor is hyped up as super mega ultra hitlerxstalin^2>Her reputation is so bad that Hina and Makoto often put aside their squabble to deal with her remnants>We are shown first hand what kind of bullshit she was capable to doing>People complain because it's bullshitThe fact that NK ultra completely and utterly changed order 66'd the last batch who was in contact with the Thunder emperor perfectly presents what Gehenna was like under her rule.
>>577345442Neat info.
>>577345672what is this referencing
Hina idolina
kei realistically has the motor skills of a toddler
>>577345254Saying tropes/cliches are bad in fucking blue archive is retarded, the entire volume 3 is about how cliches are good actually. Fucking volume F was also about how cliche plot developments like that are good actually as well. This is the wrong fucking story to have an autism fit and declare "shounen cliche writing is bad and I hate it so much" when its the entire story.The point is getting rid of the third year students so the first year students are meant to step up and take them down, which simultaneously proves that modern gehenna can defeat the wicked and evil past gehenna, and that the new gehenna has hope that the old one didn't. Its about overcoming the past, retard. Without using the past as a crutch; overcoming the past without relying on the seniors to do it.The Revivial committee will grow to regret their decisions and rally everyone to reject "a return to the old ways", and move forward to a better Gehenna while finally rejecting the thunder emperor legacyMakoto's fault was thinking that removing every trace of thunder emperor was enough; however this allowed a few retards who weren't there and managed to hear about it second hand to end up idealizing it. You can't hide information like that or else it festers, which was also a plot point in the Shanhaijing arc. You need to expose the past to the light, so people realize why it was bad. You can't idealize it but you also can't make it taboo.
>>577345102hydrate yourself, senseidon't be like Yume
>>577344101MILLENNIUM WILL TURN GEHENNA INTO A SEA OF RADIOACTIVE COBALT!
I want Sensei to get another bullet wound scar but from Hina shooting Sensei and it breaks her out of mind control.
>The student saying Make Gehenna great again is the bad guyWhat did they mean by this?!
>>577345925>Momoi
>>577346003Kei's tentacle pussy was too strong...
>>577345925This but unironically
>>577345885Its also basically an excuse to have an evil Hina plotline without Hina actually having to be evil. So you can have characters finally overcome the evil Hina. While also showing why you should rather have Makoto be seen as a funny cartoon character rather than a serious character, because it leads to bad things happening when she's serious. It basically reinforces the status quo.
i used to hate summaryfaggots but i think i hate people who read the summary and then opine on those even more
ENTER
>status quo/bag/ likes bad writing now?
Clichés and tropes exist because they're true and tried methods that workBeing a redditor who memorized all of TVtropes and can recognize tropes doesn't automatically mean they're bad
I hate every single one of you.
You rarely see Makoto and Hina refusing sensei, this chapter is great because they finally step out of bonds. >Makoto makes Ibuki and Iroha cry for hours>Chinatsu and Iori are shocked and unable to cope with the new Hina>99% of 3rd Gehenna students agree to war with some exception like Satsuki
>>577346204I also saw that tweet
>>577346179>/bag/ likes bad writing now?I mean everything after the traitor left a lot of people like. So yeah.
I have opinions to share
>>577346179Status quo can be good or bad depending on the situation, change isn't always innately a good thing. Especially if you can reinforce why the usual peaceful days are actually good.
Hina let herself be mindcontrolled.Hoshino wouldn't let herself be mindcontrolled because her mind is stronger.Ergo, concordantly, vis a vis, Hoshino is stronger than Hina.
>>577344282ooooo anon you WILL read the mind control doujin
>>577346087It also shows just how dangerous the Thunder emperor was and why she's the goddamn Gehenna boogeyman. If she can just mindcontrol the best of the best in Gehenna and turn a retard like Makoto into an actual threat, who knows what else she has done in the past? This is just one of her weapons after all.
I entered the friendzone and all I found was ENEMIES
>>577346241Hina also does the small penis gesture towards sensei. They really took some chances with this chapter.
Student most likely to prolapse?
i keep hearing about Status Quo, but what exactly is that?
Is Mimori immune to mind control?
>>577346273>her mind is stronger.bro, your v1c3?
>Gehennafags start with the shonenshit>Other schoolfags start showing that Gehennafag delusions aren't practical at all>Waaah why are you guys such shonenfags!!!?!!This is why you never got an event before.
>>577345872SHE'S STILL GETTING USED TO HER NEW BODY
Turn on KNNThe MGGA are storming the Prefect building
>>577346241To right the countless wrongs of our day, we shine this light of true redemption, that this place may become as paradise. What a wonderful world such would be...
>>577346391Good, we don't need students sucking sensei's cock 24/7. This is a good thing.
>>577346273Hina let herself be mind controlled but still resisted, and trying not to hurt Chinatsu/IoriHoshino just beat the shit out of her juniors lmao
>>577346454She overcame her grief that and is stronger than she was before v1c3.The new Gehenna chapter came after, so in the present day, Hoshino is, in fact, stronger and more resistant to mind bullshit.
>>577344101where Yuzu?
>>577346506>>577346517Just according to keikaku
>>577344282>Mind control is bad writing and that's fine. You can like Blue Archive and still think mind control is shit writing.Mind control is bad because it eliminates the need to establish a backstory for the characters’ motivations or the situation. They could resort to blackmail or identity theft but those are bad too.Mind control can be interesting if there’s already an established premise, like in Code Geass or Batman Begins. But simply pulling it out of thin air is just a sign of a lazy writer.They could have used one of the Fox Squad storylines and at least attributed some of NKUltra to the Library of Lore or Orwell, but they just dropped the plot out of nowhere.
>>577346672In her locker
>>577345885all prior cliches in BA weren't violently in opposition to good character writing. V3 gave the cliche happy ending after trials and tribulations that let students speak for themselves as themselves. Volume F likewise did similar.mind control takes it too far because it's a direct attack on good character writing. it twists characters mentally into something that they are not by means of cheap plot device.then it predictably gets undone at a certain point taking you back to status quo, giving you nothing in the end. it robs you of time you could've spent with characters by replacing them with fake stand-ins.some cliches are simply worse than others and mind control is one of those worse cliches.
https://youtu.be/4JkIs37a2JE?si=mSOpuPVr24ucvHhBthats it anonyou have to FUCK himari to survive tonight
>>577345885>The point is getting rid of the third year students so the first year students are meant to step up and take them down, which simultaneously proves that modern gehenna can defeat the wicked and evil past gehenna, and that the new gehenna has hope that the old one didn't.This would be a cool resolution if it was sold correctly. Unfortunately the conflict itself is retarded (the third years going berserk has nothing to do with their wills and they won't face any consequences for it, it just happened because of a single magical weapon that happened to remain in the broadcasting room) and it will inevitably end with Sensei fixing everything by himself.
>>577346672on my cockpit
This also circles back to the Trinity swimsuit event where Kasumi wants Megu to have a better future. All third years have Thunder emperor PTSD and don't want their kouhais to experience that. It's why they act the way that they act. Complete utter nutjobs and clowns so that the next generation doesn't have to suffer what they went through. I think this development is really great considering the build up.
Makoto is talking about buying Red winter now
Getting the feeling lately Iroha is a lot weaker mentally than you might assume. Which is why she frequently has to slack off to manage stress.
I've been unemployed for 3 months now, should I become a robber?
Just feed Hina Juri's cooking, that will snap her.
I never cared much for mind control slop, but in a story where you love your students, it mostly just hurtsI don't really see how it could turn good, unless (you)'re the only one able to make them come back to their senses by impregnating them
>>577346891Persona 4
>>577346762>>577346779Why don't you stop talking about a story that 1. you haven't actually read and 2. isn't even finished yet you literal apesThis is why we need acceleration, so retarded summary niggers can't give shitposters like you ammo
Gehenna can not defeat a single school though.
>3rd year Genhena>Makoto>Hina>Ako>Haruna>Akari>Megu>Sena>1st year Genhena>Ibuki>Haruka>Juri>Junko>Chinatsu>The Three StoogesWho will win
>>577346945I can comment on chapter 1 of the story, and I will also comment on chapter 2 once it releases.I'm also certain that you didn't read it yourself and that you can't read Japanese.
Makoto has announced a 150% tariff increase on all Gehenna imports
>>577346771Himari is a sedentary stick. Her ass would be bony.
>>577346714>Mind control can be interesting if there’s already an established premiseYou literally have Satsuki's entire thing be about NK Ultra already
>>577346714>Hasn't read it>Has a lot to say about it and how its bad writing>Doesn't want to read it because he's already decided its bad writing>He claims they dropped it out of nowhere despite them literally hinting all this in a ministory last month in JP but "that doesn't count because I havent' read it yet, therefore there is no foreshadowing since I haven't read it yet, therefore its bad writing">They've also been hinting all this shit for the last six months in various gehenna stories>But once again "Foreshadowing I can't read doesn't count"uh huhSame song and dance all day with you
>>577346714>it eliminates the need to establish a backstoryBut the NK Ultra project IS their backstory, isn't it? This is unraveling the mystery of what happened to the Thunder Emperor, what she was like before and how she held power. Why there was a revolution and why the current status quo was absolute freedom, despite the chaos/downsides.
>>577346714Geass did the whole mind control thing much better than this shit. NK Ultra was just supposed to be a Satsuki joke, not a legit main story thing.
Not to sound like a Hinafag but am I the only one concerned with the direction the writers are taking the story? I mean, with all the baggage Hina has like her loneliness and apparent lack of real convictions, the writers decide to just not delve into her internal conflicts and instead focus on capeshit and loreslop, especially weird considering Blue Archive is a character-focused story and the writers just avoided discussing or helping fix Hina's loneliness, lack of grander convictions like her peers, directionless life and wagie mentality when she's at the prime of her youth. Like regardless if p2v1 becomes good or not, I just think they're wasting Hina's character after building up so much of her internal conflict, instead just giving a bandage solution to Bandage Solution Woman's problem by having Sensei be her emotional crutch when Sensei has like 50 other girls he flirts withI don't know, maybe I'm doomposting or maybe there's another Gehenna Volume that will actually go through Hina's character like they did with Hoshino in V1C3, I mean like it or not she is still among the main characters of BA like Aris and Hoshino, I really want the Gehenna Volume to be peak and memorable like V1C3 and V3 so I'm getting concerned over the current writing
>Be third year Gehenner>Finally free of the super dictator after living through her bullshit for years>Gets to happy go lucky for once>Some retard freshmen goes MAN I WOULD LOVE TO RELIVE THE GOOD OL DAYS OF THE THUNDER EMPEROR!I dunno why they didn't just straight up shoot the MGGA club in the every time they spoke.
This is why you don't rush headfirst into the main conflict within the first few chapters.
>>577344101The amount of cuts she must be hiding under those sleeves would put Misaki to shame.
>MTL summaryniggers having opinions
>>577347117>I'm also certain that you didn't read it yourself and that you can't read JapaneseI can 100% read Japanese better than you and yes I did read it
>>577347212Not every story is about Hina ok ? Other student got their own baggage too
Totally organic player posts right now, compared to the KR and JP reception.
>>577347280She's not a menhera or suicidal like Misaki you retard.
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concerning isn't it?
Isakusan status?
>>577346939I've never played P4, are you telling me you impregnate the girls to make them come back, or that there is another interesting way to make it good? The former would make me play this instant
>Zomg brainwashing is le bad you four eye cunt!>im sowwy bwehThere.
>>577347320Running the script through Gemma 12B doesn't count as reading Japanese, I'm sorry to inform you.I don't understand why you're so offended that some people have a different opinion on the chapter than you.
Makoto says she is in talks for another cease fire between Trinity and Abydos
>>577346480Unironically, they started this with mind control slop and acting like they can win wars against whole kivotos. They deserve to be trashed.
I am the only one in /bag/ still excited for fox story
Mika could literally bitch slap all of gehennoggers.
Mika was right
CONCERN MENTIONED
>>577347373
Mika loses to Smeg.
>>577347565And me?
>>577347373I'm fucking sorry I'm on global?
Not to sound like a Seiafag but am I the only one concerned with the direction the writers are taking Seia? I mean, with all the baggage Seia has like her loneliness and apparent lack of real convictions, the writers decide to just not delve into her internal Seias and instead focus on capeshit and loreslop, especially weird considering Blue Archive is a Seia-focused story and the writers just avoided discussing or helping fix Seia's loneliness, lack of grander convictions like her peers, directionless life and wagie mentality when she's at the prime of her youth. Like regardless if p2v1 becomes good or not, I just think they're wasting Seia's character after building up so much of her internal conflict, instead just giving a bandage solution to Bandage Solution Seia's problem by having Sensei be her emotional crutch when Sensei has like 50 other girls he flirts withI don't know, maybe I'm doomposting or maybe there's another Seia Volume that will actually go through Seia's character like they did with Seia in V3C3, I mean like it or not she is still among the main characters of BA like Sneed and Feed, I really want the Seia Volume to be peak and memorable like V1C3 and V3 so I'm getting concerned over the current writing
>BA writers write an entire arc around 1984>They introduce a new character named Orwell>Everything is seemingly a reference to certain older stories>Summaryfags still claim everything is "out of nowhere"
>>577344282every that read the story is liking it. cry me a river, faggot
>>5773477781984 is chudslop thoeverbeit
>>577347110Junko (Forma Estoy Llena) can no dif all of Genhena
Makoto and Hina's feed and seed(Formerly Thunder emperor's)
/bag/ loves YuriYuri is loveYuri is life/bag/ will go to the grinder for Yuri
>>577347110Haruka is a MENACE
>>577347868Holy fvark.........
>>577347321yeah but this is the story for the school Hina is actually in, it's like if v1c3 just avoided addressing or delving into every intrapersonal conflict Hoshino has
>>5773478531984 is a good book. You just hate it because you were forced to read it in English class.
>>577347706Alright two of us then
>>577347460Your worthless opinion comes from you formulating a made-up resolution to the current conflict in your head and completely disregarding all previous foreshadowing and lore hints, as well as the whole build-up in the chapterSo yes, I am offended that I have to see your word vomit on my screen
last book you read?
>>577347778This, the mind control, nkultra, and thunder emperor were already hinted back then from 2023.Claiming that it's out of nowhere is stupid.
>>577347778This is why you post Seia or Churro or Niyaniya whoever makes you horny because these retards are not worth engaging
Makoto announces she has appointed Shouko as head of DOGE (Department of Gehenna Efficiency)
>>577347912Why are you posting Lenin out of nowhere
1984 is a story about how much the Brit sucks.AC banning and Air Fryer banning looking losers.
>>577348031Guards! Guards! by Terry Pratchet.
Gehenna power levelsMakoto(serious) = Hina > Fuuka(drunk) > Meg > Iori > Makoto > Fuuka > Ako > Chinatsu = Junko
>>577348105When will they start banning ACs in Trinity?
>>577346435Being able to do mind powers doesn’t inherently give you immunity to it
>>577348031The Bible.
>>577348160nigga where is ibuki?
>>577348031
>>577347778Satsuki herself was referencing the NK ultra plotline and she came out almost 2 years ago. They've been cooking this up over time.
Posting this because euros are asleep
>>577347565How are they gonna juggling between two big volumes at the same time? Gehenna vol most likely won’t end at chapter 2 either so one will be stuck on cliffhanger for at least several months or even a year
>>577348031How the Steel Was Tempered by Nikolai Ostrovsky
https://x.com/Takumi_KOU_IJN/status/2087571491957494169?s=20Thoughts on this Kivotos map?
https://x.com/Takumi_KOU_IJN/status/2087571491957494169The JPs are HOIposting.
>>577347912
>>577348105>Air Fryer banningwhat
why can't we just enjoy the story that has been given to us instead of complaining?
>>577348031The Bible. Specifically Job
>>577347180Just because it's foreshadowed doesn't make it inherently good nor justifiable. The biggest issue still isn't addressed, which is the part where brainwashing / hypnosis / mind control / etc. completely removes character agency.It's bad because it no longer becomes about the characters, it's about cheap pulp fiction where a switch is flicked and a character suddenly turns from good to bad without considering any internal or external motivations of that character.BA is at its best when it's all about the characters. To then rob the characters of their own personalities or agency for the sake of the plot is insane. The newer writers just don't get this. Fubuki image attached in advance so you don't have to.
>>577347168>You literally have Satsuki's entire thing be about NK Ultra alreadyBecause it was Satsuki's Thing. Sometimes it was meant to be a joke, and sometimes it just showed how clueless she was at using things for evil. You might think that's the plot twist, but they skipped a few steps to make the impact more effective.Show that NKUltra existed before Satsuki > Show that NKUltra is effective and dangerous > NKUltra being used for evil.>>577347180I watched and participated in the stream...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a24TQrLDXmMI didn't say the volume and the whole story are bad, just that the use of mind control was poorly executed.No projections, please.>>577347187Same idea from the first response.
>>577348285The same way they did with V4C2 and V5C1? Or just any volume before Vol F.
>Gehenna Volume Climax>(You) are losing against Hina, now Terror Baal Hina because of mind control fuckery>Everyone from Gehenna gets utterly destroyed>even the surprise backup from Saury is not enough>Makoto is unconscious>Arona and Plana are visibly beat up from inside the tablet >credit card is rusting at a very fast rate, now about half of it is caked with rust>You wake up to someone telling you everything is going to be okay>“Don’t worry, Sensei of Schale. I'll take it over from here"How would you react?
>>577348383Hina HAS to be the main character otherwise its shit
>>577348389Job is Kino btw, top 3 books in the Bible
>>577348368Fire hazard because
>>577348383I am not the audience who watch Avengers, thank you.
>>577345493ENTER
>>577348031Bible
>>577348467and?
>>577348383Unfortunately that's just how this place is, people just enjoy shitting on everything, it'll pass because these faggots just cycle through generals looking for material and don't actually play the games they shit talk
>>577348420I would fucking kneel
>>577348332It sounds like it's all one landmass if you read the events, this is just a map of who the schools represent
>>577348005I only finished reading the update now so I don't know where that stupid meme about the brainwashing coming out of nowhere is about, but yes, that's very dumb to say. Most of the recent Gehenna content has referenced directly or indirectly that brainwashing was part of the Thunder Emperor's repertoire, so it's obvious that it was going to play some kind of role in the volume.The problem isn't it coming out of nowhere, it's that making it the main conflict is boring as fuck. You had a perfectly good story about the Restoration Committee (or however you want to render it in English) having (partly justified) grievances about the current state of Gehenna, idolizing a past they know nothing about and working to change their school little by little according to their naive ideals. It would have been entirely natural for their club to end up accidentally recreating the conditions that led to the rise of a tyrant like the Thunder Emperor in the first place, and for them to find out first hand the danger of the absolute order they were looking for. But then you throw all that away to make the focus of the conflict a single one of the Thunder Emperor's old weapons. It's just infinitely less interesting.
>>577348031The Wise Man's Fear. The Doors of Stone any day now.
>>577348332>>577348360>Gehenoids think they can take over RW and TrinityBitch, don't they remember Stalingrad?
Would you...?
All of this is to give Hina her 3rd alt.
>>577348389>>577348456Job is one of my favourites too.
>>577348383Because a lot of people think that criticism means calling something shit, they want to sound smart to their peers so they have to find some way to call it shit. Humans have an ingrained psychological drive to call stories shit that they haven't' actually read, this drive goes back thousands of years.A man in the middle ages once fought 20 battles to the death over whether Dante or Ariosto was a better poet. On his deathbed he admitted he never actually read either of themThis is something fucking ingrained into humans, fighting about shit you don't actually know.
>>577348543And what ? Dont question the authority mate
>>577348332>>577348360
>>577348634lmao it's never coming out. Auri a cute though
>call the cops 2 hours ago>they still haven't arrived
>>577348398>Show that NKUltra existed before SatsukiWhen she first showed up she claimed it was pure science. And it always felt out of place how someone as nice and freedom-loving as Satsuki seemed so hung up on hypnosis. The pieces fit now that we know it was likely her own way of coming up with a way to combat the true KNU. Besides, everything we've been told about the Thunder Emperor is that she's a dangerous super inventor who's also a control freak, so her having come up with a sleeper agent is not surprising at all.>Show that NKUltra is effective and dangerousFor as ineffective as Satsuki's hypnosis generally was, it DID work on occasion (mostly, on her). If a goofball like her can make it work to an extent...>NKUltra being used for evilThe current story
>>577348689Would I!?
>>5773480311177 BC: the Year Civilisation Collapsed
>>577348694You just know her feet were so sweaty after this
>>577348031Unbearable lightness of being
>>577348823>2026>trusting copsngmi
>>Gehenna Volume Climax>(You) are losing against Makoto, now Terror Diablo Makoto because of mind control fuckery>Everyone from Gehenna gets utterly destroyed>even the surprise backup from Ninja is not enough>Hina is unconscious>Arona and Plana are visibly beat up from inside the tablet>credit card is rusting at a very fast rate, now about half of it is caked with rust>You wake up to someone telling you everything is going to be okay>“Don’t worry, Sensei of Schale. I'll take it over from here"How would you react?
>>577348628>making it the main conflict is boring as fuckI disagree.
>>577348031Abundance by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson
>>577348823when seconds matter, the cops are minutes away. you better be strapped, boy.
GOGURTGOGURTGOGURT
>>577348823>accidentally call the cops while exercising>they call me back immediately and I sound like a maniac because I'm out of breath
Makoto...the Vegeta of students
>>577348689My Smeg is ready
>>577348823You aren't rich or white. Have fun waiting another 3 hours.
A bounty of 7m credits has been placed on the man known as "Sensei" for the alleged impregnation of at least 14 underage girls.If you have any information about the suspect, please report it to the Valkyrie immediately.
>>577349079I'll consider it when I get a job
Also, for the record, claiming that part 2 of the story is a 1984 reference is somewhat inaccurate. Mr. Orwell is indirectly a reference to George Orwell, but directly a reference to this video art:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Morning,_Mr._Orwell
>>577348397>The newer writers just don't get thisDidn't read V1C3 award
you wouldn't let yourself be brainwashed by some wack-ass propaganda, would you sensei?
>>577348628>But then you throw all that away to make the focus of the conflict a single one of the Thunder Emperor's old weapons. It's just infinitely less interesting.It's the inherent problem with brainwashing when you take it seriously in fiction, really. It can work as a plot device in other works, political fiction uses it all the time to great effect because it's used to highlight other thematic aspects where the characters may just be intentionally treated as cogs in a wheel.But not in something like BA where characters are front and center. Because all brainwashing does is just remove the focus away from the characters.Like, I came here to see Makoto, not a meat puppet that only superficially resembles Makoto and will disappear the moment this brainwashing crap gets inevitably resolved.
>>577348031Jonathan Livingston Seagull like a decade ago, would read it again honestly, i have read it multiple times
>>577349089Gosh, she's oddly fit
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I'm sure Mika would love watching a civil war in Gehenna.
>>577344282There are other kind of mind control that are good, like Lovecraft's mind corruption.The victim is not directly mind controlled, but directed to have certain kind of thinking
>>577347565I'm pretty hype. I really just want to see more of them in general, tactical moe is so underused in this game full of gun girls.
>>577348031Unironically the Bible.
>>577349439This is exactly why I want armed alts to be a standard type of alt.
>>577348031blue archive
>>577348031....bible
>GRC later explained that they've been planning to unite Gehenna for years but failed, with many students leaving due to feeling disillusioned, leaving only 3 students in the club, mentioning Aru and Mutsuki as their ex members>Kayoko left Prefects because she doesn't like how Disciplinary Committee is designed as a glorified security force to clean up after Pandemonium ever since Thunder Emperor left>Pandemonium restructuring made Haruka as the punching bag>They'll be asked by sensei to stop the third years before total war can beginIt came to me in a dream
>More than half of the book replies are BibleI can't belive /bag/gots are white and Christian
Forgib?
No wonder why this general is so faggy.
>>577349615BA is a Christian game
I am brown
>>577349615Catholic bros...
>>577349308And there is a clear theming in this Volume concerning freedom vs control, among other thingsYou'd know this if you'd read it
which silly gags should become main plot points in future volumes?
>>577349615What about Mexicans and Filipinos?
>>577349615Maybe that just means they don't read books...
>>577349751Shouko betray
The gourmet research society will save the day
>>577349538Fucking this. Maybe not for everyone but at least for the really competent fighters. Maybe Hina and Ichika or something.
>>577348397>>577348628Honestly, I don't mind the brainwashing and it could open up some interesting scenarios, like Hinawank because God knows we haven't had enough scenes of Hina looking like the final boss, I just don't like the execution of it. Like if the writers want Evil Hina and Makoto there's better ways to do it while they retain their agency like what they did with Hoshino, and could also set up conflict between Hina and Sensei which would be interesting because the child bride Sensei trusts the most becomes untrustworthy
>>577349615I'm brown thobeit
>>577348031I am finally getting around to reading Knight of the Seven Kingdoms since I found it in one of those free book boxes the other day.
https://x.com/i/status/2087696771216482459>Wahh I hate the new story>It's a mexican hinafag
MakotoBros, your response?
>>577349615now ask them if they read summa theologica
>>577349223>Didn't read V1C3 awardV1C3 flirted with the idea but it doesn't explicitly say Hoshino is being brainwashed by a not-MK Ultra program. Readers can interpret to what extent Hoshino was being controlled by basement dweller because she already was well established from the beginning to act very irrationally due to past trauma. The story works just as well with her being minimally influenced because of her prior dispositions to act rashly to begin with, all Basement Dweller had to do was give her a nudge.Strictly speaking about Hoshino's character. Not anything else about V1C3 like the private equity crap or the disappearing minerals or whatever.
Average BA thread
>have a school and leader that values freedom and agency the most>introduce a plot device that takes that away from them>this is somehow bad because mind control is just bad okayHappy endings are also totally bad by the way because it's boring predictable story telling.
https://x.com/yuba_clip/status/2087542515243323684
>>577349986Who the fuck is Nephilim?
I can’t believe Hina and the rest of the 3rd years were infected with the Maverick Virus and turned into Maverick Hina
God I love Chewy so fucking much.
>>577348031>bro we got cave paintings, what do you mean "tablet carvings">bro we got table carvings, what do you mean "hieroglyphs">bro we got hieroglyphs, what do you mean "books">bro we got booksWhy are we stuck at this step? We've clearly progressed to books being obsolete yet somehow those who don't want to read them are ridiculed. Make it make sense.
>>577349740Freedom vs control shouldn't come at the cost of replacing your characters with meatbag versions of themselves. It works in shit like 1984 because you don't really care about the narrator as belonging to a work of otaku fiction, it's there to show how a totalitarian system crushes everyone into conformity. It doesn't work for a work like BA, period.
>>577350071You don't want to talk about themChildren of the Fallen angels with human, the main cause of the 1st Flood
>>577350080Stop reminding me that Megaman series other than the Classic is dead you fucking asshole.> Your repackage that Capcom sold for 50$?Fuck you.
Can't believe we took the idea from arknight but made it betterBravo Nexon.
>>577350131>t. brown
>>577350202As a Half-Life fan, good. Fuck your little blue fucker for giving me a brief moment of hope at the last Game Awards.
>>577349923Retard. He’s not even saying the new story is bad. He just hates Shouko for what she did to Hina. I know you’re desperately looking through all the positive comments about the new story for something negative, but this isn’t it.
Gehenners won???
>I am not Hina. I am, evil Hina!BRAVO
Even making iroha cry Hina and Makoto are both going to do things they can't take back.
>>577350216> Ability> When it literally shown that it was just an old invention from the old eraCome on now.
I welcome this newdevelopment because this might take away spotlight from Hina and Makoto. Now that they're villains(?), this will give other Gehenna girls screentime. inb4 Gourmet Club saves the day LMAO.
>>577350216Why do you keep comparing her to that other character?
>>577350216>Shouko's abilityMind control is no her own power, she just found a TE weapon out of nowhere
satsuki should be the main character
>>577349986
>>577350131hieroglyphs are messages from long lost civilization before the younger dryas imapct
Don't forget to pat your students, bag
>>577350428Hypnosiscrept...
>>577350216but does she like anal as much as arturia?
>>577350428Agreed
I don't want to see spoilers, how long should i get off /bag/ for?
>>577350393>SpoilerYou do know that the brainwahsing affect every 3rd year Genhena right ?
>>5773505295 months globalsissy
Can't wait for the whacky Kuroko goes and gets a part time job event in between the segments of the rise of Hitler.
>>577350216Are xitter memes just making shit up now
>>577350139With each post you make it clearer you haven't actually read the story and are shitposting with vague terms because you just want to shit the thread up.If you did read it you'd know a lot of the affected student's personalities remain, like Hina doing her best to resist the control so as to not hurt her fellow prefects. You're also completely ignoring the fact that the affected characters are playing secondary roles in the story and the focus is on the Revival Club, and later on the unaffected characters as well. There's a lot of potential with how can move the story forward that doesn't at all demean the characters in it.You're dismissing something you HAVEN'T READ and ISN'T FINISHED because of preconceived notions, you're a cancer to public discourse.
>>577350548Meet the Hero of Gehenna
Mika was right about Gehenna btw.
elves are behind the mind control, just you wait
>>577344292
>>577350812El presidente is not that big
what if theres no mind control at all?
How likely is it that Mika will appear in this new volume?
YEEEHAWFUCK OFF FROM MY PLAT, CHINKNIGGERS.
>>577350860she's that big
Serious question anons... I am the only autist who creates AI bots for the students? for example I have one where Ibuki is my neighbor and I take "care" of her while no one is home because she is a succubus, one where I am Aris father which ends in a incestuous relationship and more. also I use the canon ages..... I am too far gone isn't?
>>577350636>Hina doing her best to resist the control so as to not hurt her fellow prefectsWhat the fuck are you talking about??? Are you sure you're not the one who didn't read the story?There was no situation where Hina was needed to attack Iori or Chinatsu. If Iori tried to stop Hina by force then Hina would have shot her down with no hesitation.>affected characters are playing secondary roles in the story ?????? Do I even need to reply to this?
https://x.com/kokechansama/status/2087719906221723952
>>577350861It's MK ultra programmingEveryone is a sleeper agent without realizing it, at least all the their years were sleeper agents who were taught to awaken when they hear the trigger word/song
>>577350924>122,000 bansW-what the hell were they doing?
>>577350861>an?Why is Saya moaning a question?
>>577350996WAR WITH KIVOTOS NOW
>>577350975>?????? Do I even need to reply to this?I phrased it badlyThey may be the central source of the problem this time, but they're not the actual focus of the story
>>577350924>122kwaht the fuck
I did the shittest torments 38.6 for both and I'll be getting plat. Feels good man.
explain this behavior
>>577350861>hina was merely pretending just so that she has an excuse to quit>makoto decided to play along because she also wants hina to quitThe plot thickens
>>577350924>122,046 players bannedwtfhttps://x.com/EN_BlueArchive/status/2087751148669382986
>>577351030The only nerf in BA history and no one remembers
>>577350996Ahh oh no my trigger phrase is activating
Hina should retire
>>577350924>122K
Wtf bros I just got banned
>>577350924Damn, all of those elephantposter
>>577351184A MAN CHOOSES
>>577351147chocomint was nerfedTWICE
*saves your school*
>>577350990>check rexeets>see this>https://x.com/hokori_o/status/2087671700381159746wtf...
>>577350924Is this the largest ban wave?
I can fix Mercedes-chan
>>577351207And come live with me
>>577350924>120klule did they ban the entire player base?
peroro TOR should get me plat instantly? no matter how scuffed right?
MK Ultra programming, sleeper agent, mind control, brainwashing, hypnosis, yadda yadda yadda it's all describing the same thing of making your characters do a bunch of stupid shit they normally wouldn't do. So writers don't have to do the hard work of actually examining how a character acts and feels. Just have them conform to the plot instead of the plot being a natural extension of character personalities clashing with one another.
Wtf sis I just got banned
I love how Makoto did a 1:1 copy of Bismarck's speech.
>>577351338Yes, the largest ban wave in global was 17k
>>577350924could it be some form of protest after the gacha change? the chinks flooded the global server with bot accounts or something
>>577350868If they make the war happens, then there is a high chance.
i personally loved the twist of nk ultra actually being real. makoto and hina did their utmost best to erase all traces of raitei but shit like this they couldn't have even predicted. though it's feeling like BA devs are copying another yugioh arc (society of light from gx)
>BA is gonna get its own Siege of Orgrimmarholy KINO
what did you say?
Oh my god the stealth section SUCKS.
a little kid
>>577348031Oathbringer
every time i open my wild hunt folder i see rena and my dick gets hard
>>577351719Why wasn't the card the Seal of Orichalcos?
Hina Relaxina
>>577351668I'm not asking people to like it, especially people that got so butt angry that people kept calling them out that they're now trying to falseflag as the other sideI'm asking you to stop pretending you read a story you didn't read, and not hunker down into "this is terrible writing" when you read less than a summary that some other guy told you. Read a fucking story for yourself before you pretend to have an opinion you fraud. No a summary doesn't count. No getting angry over something you heard third hand is not a genuine opinion, that's just mental retardation.
>>577351719lol
hina onsena
keanu reaves is a weak ass bitch
Post more Hina de-stress.
Hina sponsorina
I remembered summaryfag told /bag/ that the brainwashing was caused by Gematria
>>577352039Isn't that the tentacle rape doujinshi?
>>577351889You are so mindbroken that you're talking shit on a poster that shares your opinion, lol. Maybe take a break?
>>577351878Good grief she's naked!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE45nsroFTE
>>577351886Hina masturbating>>577352039Hina peeing>>577352096Hina suicidal
Just Hina
>>577352107All of those spoilers were fake
>>577352182lmao
>>577350408>she just found a TE weapon out of nowhereWe still don't know what her backstory is, for all we know she could be a spy for the TE
mob thread next
>>577352127
Betraying and raping Hina. Now she realised that the Sensei she loves only sees her as an onahole. Her mind... is broken.
The only real one out of the lot
Sex Haver 69
>>577352503Including Haruka?
>>577352639Sleepfucking Hina
>>577352503They will save Gehenna from this madness>>577352641She can rape sensei with 0 issues whatsoever and have probably done that at least twice
Tentacles pussy
>>577352639
>>577352639WAKE UP
post pictures from your miscellaneous /bag/ folder
>>577352503OUR FUARKING HEROES
are those eyebags?
When will Problem Solver appear in Gehenna volume
>>577352732she doesn't sleep
>>577352641she can help with the cleanup
>>577352707
>>577352340She's explicitly shown to not be aware that there was a TE weapon in the broadcasting room until she got there, so her finding it was entirely a coincidence. Also, she's pretty much confirmed to have some sort of a relation to the TE.
